What is taking soooo long in Pakistan? Its pissing me off. I know you can get broadband in Islamabad.. but what about major towns and cities like Gujrat, Jhelum, Kharian, etc. Pakistan is really falling behind...

Almost 80% of internet users in UK got broadband.

you can get broadBand not only in Islamabad but also in these cities as well Lahore, Rawalpindi, Karachi, Peshawar, Hyderabad, Quetta, Faisalabad, Multan, Gujranwala, Sialkot, Sheikupura and Hub. I know for fact that Sheikhupura is no big city so I am sure it will available in Gujrat as well pretty soon

you can get it in Sargodha as well, but not at all places, but its still there. and im talking about 2 years back, so they must have made progress.

Im from Kharian, hope it available soon :(

I heard Wimax is aviable now??

Yes, from Wateen. www.wateen.com
Except from one little quibble, they're good. They just need to have uncapped bandwidth. Caps = no-no.

Whats the speed of broadband in Pakistan?

www.multi.net.pk is offering Broadband services in few cities of Punjab and Sindh

The following cities are covered by Multinet:

Faisalabad
Gujrat
Hyderabad
Islamabad
Karachi
Lahore
Multan
Peshawar
Rawalpindi
Sahiwal
Sheikhupura
Sialkot

Gujrat? Does that cover Kharian..?

^^Gujrat and Kharian are two distinct and distant places, I believe.

What about Lalamusa

With PTCL now offering newer packages and with wateen now expanding, I think internet access will be revolutionized within a year or two.

PTCL landline through out Pakistan is now pre-activated to be used with modems for dial up connections, it's pretty good connection and has good speed, you don't even have to buy scratch cards, you will be charged for this service in the monthly PTCL bill, check out the PTCL website for usage details. PTCL broadband service is available in most cities and it's pretty good aswell, I am using it for quite sometime now. Very soon it will be available throughout Pakistan.

Wateen WiMax is still in the testing phase, but its fast and reliable, I have even used it on M2 (Lahore to Sial section) and M3 motorway with my laptop, it works just fine, it will soon be available through out Pakistan, but it is much expensive than PTCL braodband.

When these ISPs say 128kb, or 256kb, do you actually get that much speed on their connection?

you never get the stated speed in any connection any where around the world. Because those are optimum speeds and they only happen when all factors work well and that doesn't happen.

you never get the stated speed in any connection any where around the world. Because those are optimum speeds and they only happen when all factors work well and that doesn't happen.

I know they are optimum speeds but in US/Europe you often do get that speed (or close to it). But in Pakistan it used to be just just the connection speed, not the download speed. So thats what I am asking: is it still that way, or not?

I am using www.Multi.net.pk 's 128k shared connection with unlimited download and most of the time I get 11k - 14k download speed and thats only for Rs.1,500/- per month.

I got free modem and Free installation on 6 months advance payment.

http://multinet.com.pk/Images/logobig.gif

In Islamabad Best DSL provider is Micronet http://dsl.net.pk/

Their 1st best selling Package is 384 Kbps @ Rs. 999/- (Volume Per Month 3GB Only)
Their 2nd best selling Package is 512 Kbps @ Rs. 1,199/- (Volume Per Month 4GB Only)

Only disadvantage is that they dont allow unlimited download :(

http://www.seham.us/home/index.2.jpg

I am using www.Multi.net.pk 's 128k shared connection with unlimited download and most of the time I get 11k - 14k download speed and thats only for Rs.1,500/- per month.

I got free modem and Free installation on 6 months advance payment.

http://multinet.com.pk/Images/logobig.gif



WOW! Thats horrible! I get 1.2Mbps and I'm still bitching all the time! I think I would smash the computer with a sledgehammer if I use Pakistani internet again!

^^ Thats it? I cant complain, I have 6.6 Mbps for $45.

Good for the PlayStation downloads :yes:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/216070990.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

WOW! Thats horrible! I get 1.2Mbps and I'm still bitching all the time! I think I would smash the computer with a sledgehammer if I use Pakistani internet again!

If you are in Pakistan then this 10k + download speed is a good acceptable speed

A country where still most of the people are using dialups with 3-4 K download

:)

^^ Thats it? I cant complain, I have 6.6 Mbps for $45.

Good for the PlayStation downloads :yes:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/216070990.png (http://www.speedtest.net)


Here 1 MB connection cost us around Rs.65,000/- per month approx $ 1,000/- per month

:doh:

If you are in Pakistan then this 10k + download speed is a good acceptable speed

A country where still most of the people are using dialups with 3-4 K download

:)

Let me ask thsi question on Ooga's behalf:

how do you watch porn at 3/4k? :lol:

:doh:

Let me ask thsi question on Ooga's behalf:

how do you watch porn at 3/4k? :lol:
It's known as teasing. The woman is sloooooooowwwwwwwwwwwly revealead as the JPEG is loaded.

It's known as teasing. The woman is sloooooooowwwwwwwwwwwly revealead as the JPEG is loaded.

:rofl:

Heheheh not to brag but:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/216137865.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

:D :D

this is what i m getting in karachi

http://www.speedtest.net/result/216139761.png

^^Not so bad.

Heheheh not to brag but:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/216137865.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

:D :D
Holy mother of !!!!! Why don't you just download the whole internet one night and save it on the Harddisk?

Holy mother of !!!!! Why don't you just download the whole internet one night and save it on the Harddisk?
Yup just trying to find a big enough hard disk. :lol:

The following cities are covered by Multinet:

Faisalabad
Gujrat
Hyderabad
Islamabad
Karachi
Lahore
Multan
Peshawar
Rawalpindi
Sahiwal
Sheikhupura
Sialkot
But even in these cities broadband is available in some exchanges. like in sialkot only one exchange that cover central business area provide broadband

@Tranny & Umais


:rofl:


You f*ckers always make me laugh! :tongue3:

This is the speed I am getting at home on a $61 Per month Cable Internet Connection

http://www.speedtest.net/result/216280677.png

In my work place where I have a T1 connection which is $900 per month, the speeds are so fast that I downloaded 30GB's worth of course books for college in less than an hour!

My rapidshare account is locked every other day because I exceed the limit, the funny thing is that THEY DONT HAVE A LIMIT! :lol:

And as far as porno is concerned, the internet traffic in my workplace is strictly monitored so no porno. :(

this is mine..

http://www.speedtest.net/result/216295944.png

this is mine..

http://www.speedtest.net/result/216295944.png

Choose a server closer to you and do the test again.

Mine...its not that good.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/216297531.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Choose a server closer to you and do the test again.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/216298128.png

Portland is the closest to me, better results this time. Not too much of a difference though.

actually wait... my server is allt he way in toronto, not in monteal. crazy...

but its around 5000, which isn't bad, so im happy.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/216305941.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

^^ :rofl: :rofl:

but mine was even slower when i was using dial up in Sargodha...

[b]em nOt uSing dIaLUp...CabLe net laGa hai..

OK guys seen as everyone is going on about internet speeds. I need everyone' help. See for uni my dad bought me a laptop. But the problem is that I'm so crap with technology that I dont even know how to connect it to the internet. I want it to be a "wireless" connection ofcourse. It says I need a wireless router or something. So can anyone please help me? Thanks in advance! Like I mean teach me how to do everything strp by step. It talks about ISPs aswell. Everything just goes over my head and annoyes me.

OK guys seen as everyone is going on about internet speeds. I need everyone' help. See for uni my dad bought me a laptop. But the problem is that I'm so crap with technology that I dont even know how to connect it to the internet. I want it to be a "wireless" connection ofcourse. It says I need a wireless router or something. So can anyone please help me? Thanks in advance! Like I mean teach me how to do everything strp by step. It talks about ISPs aswell. Everything just goes over my head and annoyes me.

Ok so this is what you have to do........
















.........

















....












SYKE!


:lol:



He thought I was actually going to help him out!







:tongue3:

Ahhhhh! You make me laugh! :lol: :laugh:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/216305941.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

:pet:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/216426464.png (http://www.speedtest.net)


Look at the difference between upload and download!

http://www.speedtest.net/result/216511376.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Multinet 128 k shared connection result

http://www.speedtest.net/result/216530935.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

you dont have server in islamabad?

~750mi....no wonder it is that slow.

Pakistani broadband speeds are horrible! What the hell are these fundoos charging so much for? Its a disgrace! :no:

Mine:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/166213627.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Not bad, eh!

http://www.speedtest.net/result/216671894.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

mine is

http://www.speedtest.net/result/216679339.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

guys..stop posting soo many pictures...the poor forumers in pakistan may have to wait a while to see them

My speed is ONLY better than those guys in Pakistan :no:

My speed is ONLY better than those guys in Pakistan :no:

:pet:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/216702489.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Mine...its not that good.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/216297531.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
http://www.speedtest.net/result/216703772.png (http://www.speedtest.net)


Now you're not even better than the Pakees!

^^ Is that yours?

I swear this one was:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/216426464.png (http://www.speedtest.net)


Look at the difference between upload and download!

Yeah, that's mine. Tested in the morning, hence the speed was higher.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/216723865.png

http://www.speedtest.net/result/216723865.png

http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/06/268_nelson1.gif

^^ Thats it? I cant complain, I have 6.6 Mbps for $45.

Good for the PlayStation downloads :yes:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/216070990.png (http://www.speedtest.net/)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/06/268_nelson1.gif

I dont complain at 3.2mbps when its FREE.

Fair point :ohno:

Mine...its not that good.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/216297531.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

I'm supposed to be getting 2.2 Mbps, but seems like I'm only getting 1.8Mbps.

My Uploads is still better than Umais's 243 Vs 188 :banana:

As compared to everyones ratio

Difference in My DSL upload and download speed is very little


http://www.speedtest.net/result/216530935.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

As compared to everyones ratio

Difference in My DSL upload and download speed is very little


http://www.speedtest.net/result/216530935.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
Interesting ISP name!

mine

http://www.speedtest.net/result/216790994.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

bit gay like. i have 8mb broadband but the cables to my house only allow around 6mb

Mine is..
http://www.speedtest.net/result/217427772.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
But than i am only paying £10.15 for my telephone AND internet(unlimited usage normal cost of £19.99) which is actually cheaper than just the bt telephone line:banana::banana:


SPEEDY
enjoy

Mine is..
http://www.speedtest.net/result/217427772.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
But than i am only paying £10.15 for my telephone AND internet(unlimited usage normal cost of £19.99) which is actually cheaper than just the bt telephone line:banana::banana:


SPEEDY
enjoy

bulldog is good i m using virgin adsl normally get up to 4mb

In my lab, i get this
http://www.speedtest.net/result/217941732.png

:banana:

In my lab, i get this
http://www.speedtest.net/result/217941732.png

:banana:

Sweet mother of Krishna! :shocked:

Sweet and arrogant mother of Krishna! :eek:

Muhhhhhaaahhaaaahaahaa.

:tongue3:

Muhhhhhaaahhaaaahaahaa.

:tongue3:

I'm sure you have limited access in the lab :baeh3:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/216137865.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
:D :D

Stop it, your hurting us all :cry:

I'm sure you have limited access in the lab :baeh3:

Par contre, I have access 24/7. We are only 3 persons in this office/lab(for phd students) and have full access to it even on weekends or holidays.

We have incredible speeds in the universities here. I remember when I used to be in paris(last year) I once downloaded a 600mb software hosted on a server in japan and it took a mere 3-4 seconds.

what university??

what university??

http://www.ujf-grenoble.fr/

what university??

the current one or the previous one?

Current one is http://www.inpg.fr and the previous one was http://www.upmc.fr/

Oh...u made me look like an idiot there. :lol:

Holy mother of every mother. Can you guys travel in time? Download a file before it's even created? These speeds are unfuckingbelievable. That's like the total bandwidth of half of Pakistan.

Awesome news!!

Pakistan first in region to launch WiMax


Thursday, January 03, 2008

ISLAMABAD: WiMax networks and wireless broadband services have been commercially launched across the country achieving a new milestone in the telecom sector of Pakistan.

According to the Pakistan Telecommunication Authority (PTA), the launch of commercial WiMax services has positioned Pakistan as a leader in the region to initiate wireless broadband services that will be available to its consumers nationwide. Other regional countries, including India, are yet to offer such services and analysts believe these countries may take a considerable time to reach the position that Pakistan has attained.

WiMax is the latest, International Telecommunication Union (ITU) recognised, 3G technology capable of providing voice, broadband data and commercial video telephony services. With the launch of WiMax services in Pakistan, the subscribers to this service will be able to make video calls, telephony through special handsets while callers will be able to see live video/picture of each other in addition to voice conversation.

The users will also enjoy wireless broadband services and will be able to use Internet at a much faster speed as compared to normal dialup Internet services or fixed line broadband services.:banana::banana:

The operators also aim to provide broadband data solution for corporate users in Pakistan. At present, Wateen Telecom, an international telecom player, is offering commercial WiMax services in most parts of the country.

Mytel, a local operator in Peshawar, has also launched commercial operation of WiMax in Peshawar. On the same front, other wireless local loop operators including Burraq, PTCL, Z-WLL and Cyber Internet are busy in deploying WiMax networks. All of these operators are in their testing phase and will soon be able to offer commercial WiMax services in the country.

Pakistan first in region to launch WiMax (http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=89052)

OK guys seen as everyone is going on about internet speeds. I need everyone' help. See for uni my dad bought me a laptop. But the problem is that I'm so crap with technology that I dont even know how to connect it to the internet. I want it to be a "wireless" connection ofcourse. It says I need a wireless router or something. So can anyone please help me? Thanks in advance! Like I mean teach me how to do everything strp by step. It talks about ISPs aswell. Everything just goes over my head and annoyes me.

Ok so this is what you have to do........
















.........

















....












SYKE!


:lol:



He thought I was actually going to help him out!







:tongue3:

HAHA! I don't need you guys! My mate came round and helped me setup internet on my laptop. Took the poor guy 2 hours!!

its far away frm wat any1 can think but cant resist to post it now

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2380/2171984518_db87e303bd_o.jpg

its my

http://www.gifs.net/Animation11/Animals/Dogs/bad_dog.gif

Those kind of speeds are only good for specialized purposes like VPN or such. As far as browsing the internet or downloading is concerned, ones internet speed is only as fast as the speed the computer at the other end has, the one from which you are trying to download.

Lets assume that Himali's 100MBps speed is an 18-wheeler truck hauling a load the size of an 18wheeler container, but the destination speed is only 3MBps, then it would be like delivering that 18-wheeler load into a very narrow alley, the type found in old Lahore. The load cannot fit into the tight thoroughway therefore it has to be broken down and then transported, and in doing so, the bandwidth or capacity goes to waste. The vast majority of the internet sites restrict individual users to 786kbps download speed, Rapidshare's allows 1500kbps.

Hence, ones internet is only as fast as the target computers internet, to which one is trying to connect.


:yes:







Bacchon, dont forget to tune in for next weeks lecture! It will be on the Human reproductive system! :yes:

^^Jealous are we? :yes:

^^Jealous are we? :yes:

Of what? I have a 100MBps connection at my workplace aswell.


I'd be jealous if anyone here was using a DS3 connection! Now THAT is something to envy! :drool:

@Tranny & Umais


http://www.speedtest.net/result/216280677.png


that is the speed i get on my computer using comcast, following is the speed i get using the same internet via a wireless router on my nokia n810

http://www.speedtest.net/result/221242841.png

do you have anything to say in your defence Mr. Nokiawala? :sly:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/222055639.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
using NTL/Virgin media in Glasgow 2 Mbps

that is the speed i get on my computer using comcast, following is the speed i get using the same internet via a wireless router on my nokia n810

http://www.speedtest.net/result/221242841.png

do you have anything to say in your defence Mr. Nokiawala? :sly:

Ofcourse wireless will be slower. Lots of different variables. Maybe you were moving so position of the antenna in your device constantly changes wrt the position of your WLAN router, then lots of multi path reflections, orientation of antenna wrt wlan router etc....i could go on and on.

Ofcourse wireless will be slower. Lots of different variables. Maybe you were moving so position of the antenna in your device constantly changes wrt the position of your WLAN router, then lots of multi path reflections, orientation of antenna wrt wlan router etc....i could go on and on.

ok :(

Ofcourse wireless will be slower. Lots of different variables. Maybe you were moving so position of the antenna in your device constantly changes wrt the position of your WLAN router, then lots of multi path reflections, orientation of antenna wrt wlan router etc....i could go on and on.

I dont know about what Router hes using but I just got a new Wireless-N one and its pretty (pretty) fast on both PC's.

Judging its Boongi, I wouldn't rule out a crappy router that he assembled himself.

:laugh:

:rofl:

:(




Stop picking on me!








I am using a linksys 802.11g Router. The speed of the 802.11n router depends on its setting. The architecture of the house drastically effects the speeds of 802.11n. The reason I havent upgraded to 802.11n yet is because my laptop isnt compatible and the Nokia N810 doesnt have 802.11n.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/222599643.png

Internet Penetration To Rise 16%

KARACHI (January 24 2008): Pakistan's current internet penetration is around 7.5 percent. This was stated by Monis Rahman, Chief Executive Officer of Naseeb Networks, in a statement on Wednesday. He said that with over 500 million dollar recently invested here in broadband and Wimax infrastructure, they are projecting inter-net penetration to increase to around 16 percent over the next three years.

Naseeb Network, a leading provider of online recruitment, social networking, classifieds and related services in Pakistan, has announced that it has secured Series B financing from two pre-eminent silicon Valley venture capital firms, ePlanet Ventures (ePlanet) and Draper Fisher Jurvetson (DFJ).

Naseeb will use the funding to accelerate its growth and leadership position in target markets by investing in sales force and marketing expansion and enhancing its product portfolio.

"We have seen strong growth in user metrics and financial receipts across our portfolio of online services," said Monis Rahman, Founder and CEO of Naseeb Networks. This funding round provides growth capital and domain expertise from two clear leaders in global venture capital, which will enable us to further dominate our target markets and seize emerging market opportunities."

The round was led by ePlanet with DFJ participating, pursuant to which Ayaz-ul-Haque, Managing Director at ePlanet and Mohanjit Jolly, Director At DFJ have joined Naseeb's board of directors. "We're excited about the progress and momentum that Monis and his team have achieved in the market," said Haque.

"Naseeb Networks, though its portfolio of Internet properties and revenue generating brands including Naseeb.com Rozee PK and Ring Pakistan.com, is a leader in a market that is poised for considerable growth. Our investment in Naseeb will help the company build upon its commanding position." he said.

"The company's business model is consistent with ePlanet's global replication emphasis and represents a unique investment to capture the inflection point in Inter-net growth in Pakistan," he commented.

Commenting on DFJ's participation, Jolly said, "Naseeb Networks has done a phenomenal job of bootstrapping its way to a leadership position. DFJ is proud to be associated with the Naseeb team. This infusion will not only cement the leadership position for Naseeb in social media but also help further catalyse the market in Pakistan and across the global Muslim diaspora."

He said, "By providing the best platform for interaction, collaboration and transaction, Naseeb Networks have the potential of being a truly significant player with a global footprint, both factors being hallmarks of DFJ investments."

Naseeb Networks operates a portfolio of web-sites including Rozee. PK and Naseeb com. Rozee. Pk is Pakistan's largest and fastest growing job portal. The site has delivered over 1.4 million applications to jobs posted by 8,800 employers, Rozee, Pk is used by some of Pakistan's most sought after employers to recruit human capital, including Mobilink, Nestle, Oracle, McDonalds, United Bank Limited, Microsoft, GlaxoSmithKlein, Engro Foods, Mentor Graphics, Teradata, Proctor and Gamble and other.

Rozee.Pk offers employers recruiting solutions including placement of online job ads, access to powerful CV search engine technology, online recruitment workflow management tools and white-labelled corporate job portals.

The company's flagship inter-net property, Naseeb.com, offers match marking and social networking services for the Pakistani and Arab diaspora communities. With over 1.3 billion Muslims worldwide, Naseeb.com has achieved a leadership position in a huge market. The site's features include blogging, instant massaging photo and music sharing, and an innovative algorithm that matches members based on common cultural norms.

Commenting on the market opportunity, Rahman said, "Pakistan's current Internet penetration is around 7.5 percent compared to India's 4.5 percent. With over USD $500 million recently invested here in broadband and WiMAX infrastructure, we are projecting Internet penetration to increase to around 16 percent over the next three years. We will leverage our leadership position to generate cross traffic for other key online services for the benefit of Pakistan's vibrant inter-net community."

Naseeb Networks, which have been cash flow positive since 2004, have 42 employees across its offices in Lahore, Karachi, Islamabad and San Jose and a management team transplanted form Silicon Valley.

Copyright Associated Press of Pakistan, 2008
http://www.brecorder.com/index.php?id=683703&currPageNo=1&query=&search=&term=&supDate=

http://www.speedtest.net/result/226066668.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

V PTCL zindabad jee! :lol:

:doh: :doh:

:rofl:

but in which city is it?

In Lahore :lol:

I'm in the process of getting Wateen very soon, this vPTCL has been getting slower and slower over the past 4 months.

PTCL would be much better than the vPTCL, no?

^ yes it would, but I usually don't use very much internet at all especially in the past 2 years. I only use it for 2 things. 1. email. 2. study/research (wiki)

But I'm free for a month so that's why I've been on the net more often.

edited ..............

Hey but Wateen is fast. My brother had a trial version of it it was amazing! You could download songs within minutes, watch YouTube videos without having to wait for it to load. It was heaven on earth :)


then my brother took it to pindi... :(

So now I have to get another one.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/226474287.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

my ptcl broadband. not bad!



vptcl was crap, waste of time and money. i threw it.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/226066668.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

V PTCL zindabad jee! :lol:


I must say u r getting same speed what other dialup companies are providing in Pakistan

Normally dialup speed ranges from 20kbps to 33.6 Kbps in pakistan

Internet Penetration To Rise 16%

KARACHI (January 24 2008): Pakistan's current internet penetration is around 7.5 percent. This was stated by Monis Rahman, Chief Executive Officer of Naseeb Networks, in a statement on Wednesday. He said that with over 500 million dollar recently invested here in broadband and Wimax infrastructure, they are projecting inter-net penetration to increase to around 16 percent over the next three years.

Naseeb Network, a leading provider of online recruitment, social networking, classifieds and related services in Pakistan, has announced that it has secured Series B financing from two pre-eminent silicon Valley venture capital firms, ePlanet Ventures (ePlanet) and Draper Fisher Jurvetson (DFJ).

Naseeb will use the funding to accelerate its growth and leadership position in target markets by investing in sales force and marketing expansion and enhancing its product portfolio.

"We have seen strong growth in user metrics and financial receipts across our portfolio of online services," said Monis Rahman, Founder and CEO of Naseeb Networks. This funding round provides growth capital and domain expertise from two clear leaders in global venture capital, which will enable us to further dominate our target markets and seize emerging market opportunities."

The round was led by ePlanet with DFJ participating, pursuant to which Ayaz-ul-Haque, Managing Director at ePlanet and Mohanjit Jolly, Director At DFJ have joined Naseeb's board of directors. "We're excited about the progress and momentum that Monis and his team have achieved in the market," said Haque.

"Naseeb Networks, though its portfolio of Internet properties and revenue generating brands including Naseeb.com Rozee PK and Ring Pakistan.com, is a leader in a market that is poised for considerable growth. Our investment in Naseeb will help the company build upon its commanding position." he said.

"The company's business model is consistent with ePlanet's global replication emphasis and represents a unique investment to capture the inflection point in Inter-net growth in Pakistan," he commented.

Commenting on DFJ's participation, Jolly said, "Naseeb Networks has done a phenomenal job of bootstrapping its way to a leadership position. DFJ is proud to be associated with the Naseeb team. This infusion will not only cement the leadership position for Naseeb in social media but also help further catalyse the market in Pakistan and across the global Muslim diaspora."

He said, "By providing the best platform for interaction, collaboration and transaction, Naseeb Networks have the potential of being a truly significant player with a global footprint, both factors being hallmarks of DFJ investments."

Naseeb Networks operates a portfolio of web-sites including Rozee. PK and Naseeb com. Rozee. Pk is Pakistan's largest and fastest growing job portal. The site has delivered over 1.4 million applications to jobs posted by 8,800 employers, Rozee, Pk is used by some of Pakistan's most sought after employers to recruit human capital, including Mobilink, Nestle, Oracle, McDonalds, United Bank Limited, Microsoft, GlaxoSmithKlein, Engro Foods, Mentor Graphics, Teradata, Proctor and Gamble and other.

Rozee.Pk offers employers recruiting solutions including placement of online job ads, access to powerful CV search engine technology, online recruitment workflow management tools and white-labelled corporate job portals.

The company's flagship inter-net property, Naseeb.com, offers match marking and social networking services for the Pakistani and Arab diaspora communities. With over 1.3 billion Muslims worldwide, Naseeb.com has achieved a leadership position in a huge market. The site's features include blogging, instant massaging photo and music sharing, and an innovative algorithm that matches members based on common cultural norms.

Commenting on the market opportunity, Rahman said, "Pakistan's current Internet penetration is around 7.5 percent compared to India's 4.5 percent. With over USD $500 million recently invested here in broadband and WiMAX infrastructure, we are projecting Internet penetration to increase to around 16 percent over the next three years. We will leverage our leadership position to generate cross traffic for other key online services for the benefit of Pakistan's vibrant inter-net community."

Naseeb Networks, which have been cash flow positive since 2004, have 42 employees across its offices in Lahore, Karachi, Islamabad and San Jose and a management team transplanted form Silicon Valley.

Copyright Associated Press of Pakistan, 2008
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16% penetration in 3 years is not bad! Our current penetration rate of 7.5% isn't too bad either.

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V PTCL zindabad jee! :lol:
V PTCL was good in its early days, but now it sucks, and like vazim, I threw it too but I have no problem with their DSL connection, it's fast, reliable and smooth, I havn't experienced any downtime so far, I am using it for quite sometime now in my home.

For the time being, unless you get Wateen's broadband connection, you can use Telenor postpaid sim with your cell phone (if it's GPRS/EDGE enabled) or you can use it with any GPRS/EDGE card with your PC or laptop, Telenor's EDGE service is now available throughout Pakistan, you can use any of the 4 available data packages that they offer if you just want to use their EDGE service for internet connectivity, very good option for connectivity with your laptop if you do lots of travelling within Pakistan (or even abroad).

^ yeah I heard about telenor's service, sounds better for me.

V PTCL was good in its early days, but now it sucks, and like vazim, I threw it too but I have no problem with their DSL connection, it's fast, reliable and smooth, I havn't experienced any downtime so far, I am using it for quite sometime now in my home.

For the time being, unless you get Wateen's broadband connection, you can use Telenor postpaid sim with your cell phone (if it's GPRS/EDGE enabled) or you can use it with any GPRS/EDGE card with your PC or laptop, Telenor's EDGE service is now available throughout Pakistan, you can use any of the 4 available data packages that they offer if you just want to use their EDGE service for internet connectivity, very good option for connectivity with your laptop if you do lots of travelling within Pakistan (or even abroad).
Is it good?

V PTCL was good in its early days, but now it sucks, and like vazim, I threw it too but I have no problem with their DSL connection, it's fast, reliable and smooth, I havn't experienced any downtime so far, I am using it for quite sometime now in my home.

For the time being, unless you get Wateen's broadband connection, you can use Telenor postpaid sim with your cell phone (if it's GPRS/EDGE enabled) or you can use it with any GPRS/EDGE card with your PC or laptop, Telenor's EDGE service is now available throughout Pakistan, you can use any of the 4 available data packages that they offer if you just want to use their EDGE service for internet connectivity, very good option for connectivity with your laptop if you do lots of travelling within Pakistan (or even abroad).

about telenor. Is it better than mobilink ? what kind of speed u r getting ?

Wateen Office in Blue Area, Islamabad

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i just realised we're paying for 16meg ... but with two computers in my house and this test taken on wireless.. i dont think i can complain much.. its also dependant on the phone line.. isnt it

PS: what's easynet? im with sky

Easynet was acquired by Sky:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4363036.stm

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Switch to PTCL or LDN.

At work:

Last Test Date: 3/11/2008
Total Tests Taken: 1859
Fastest Download: 16942 kb/s
Fastest Upload: 46375 kb/s
Average Download: 7153 kb/s
Average Upload: 3241 kb/s

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:banana: I am using the cablenet provided on the backbone of Transwolrd :D:D:D

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getting 295kbps in peak hour..on a metropolitan area network through gigabit LANs(fibre optic network) and then Ethernet network in the locality...paying just Rs. 600/month for unlimited bandwidth connection..it IS MORRRRRE THAN ENOUGHHHHH!!!!!!

^^ try with karachi server and the download speed will go up.

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getting 295kbps in peak hour..on a metropolitan area network through gigabit LANs(fibre optic network) and then Ethernet network in the locality...paying just Rs. 600/month for unlimited bandwidth connection..it IS MORRRRRE THAN ENOUGHHHHH!!!!!!

:pet:

Borrow some of mine:

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Cybersurf?!

^^^^ CIA >>> CyberSurf Internet Access >>> www.cia.com


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do you realise that when companies advertise.. they tend to use M'B'ps and then testers use M'b'ps.. it is a difference of a factor of 8... if im not wrong.. so a speed shown as 6Meg is actually 48Meg? is that how it works?

PS: i have forgotton if 8 bits make a byte or 4?!?!

here u go ... just found this on bbc:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7292932.stm

by the way people, britain has the slowest internet speeds in the developed world... however, as much as i'd like to boast about France's 100Meg internet, it is the most unstable connnection ever and you pay something like €45 to get it.. i probably got disconnected more times than i would have in Pakistan

Yes, the speeds are in BITS per second. Divide it by 8 or 9 to get BYTES.

here u go ... just found this on bbc:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7292932.stm

by the way people, britain has the slowest internet speeds in the developed world... however, as much as i'd like to boast about France's 100Meg internet, it is the most unstable connnection ever and you pay something like €45 to get it.. i probably got disconnected more times than i would have in Pakistan

Broadband speeds around the world

Last Updated: Sunday, 2 December 2007, 10:16 GMT

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UNITED KINGDOM

Currently in the UK the big issue is the gap between advertised and actual speeds, so while 10Mbps might be available from a few suppliers, very few actually get this speed. According to speedtest.net - a global speed test created by actual users and approved by most of the major ISPs in the US - the real speed is closer to 3Mbps.

Things get faster next year as ADSL2+ comes online promising speeds of up to 24Mbps, although as with all DSL technology, there are physical limits and only those close to the exchange will actually get the top speeds.

Virgin Media is currently trialling a 50Mbps cable service and BT is also experimenting with fibre to the home, which could offers speeds of up to 100Mbps.

FRANCE

France has an advertised average of 44Mbps.

According to speedtest.net the average speed from those doing the test is 4.6Mbps but higher speeds are beginning to come online. ADSL2+ is already available and is being marketed as providing speeds of up to 28Mbps.

Actual speeds will vary although the copper telephone lines are generally of better quality than in the UK, so speeds are typically higher.

The leading ISPs in France have announced fibre-based services. Orange and Frees' offerings are live now and are marketed at offering speeds around 50Mbps. Free's offer at 29 euros a month, comes bundled with a broadband telephone service, IPTV, plus a free set top box.

GERMANY

Average advertised speeds of 9Mbps falls to 4.8Mbps according to speedtest.net.

In Germany the main delivery mechanism is still largely DSL, and the leading company is the old incumbent Deutsche Telekom.

They have a VDSL network - which provides fibre as far as the street cabinet.

This is live in the main German cities, and offers speeds of up to around 25Mbps. Outside of the main towns there is a mixture of ADSL 1 and 2 technologies.

SWEDEN

Average advertised speed of 21Mbps but according to speedtest.net, people are actually achieving an average of 7.4Mbps.

In Sweden there is a VDSL network live. Fibre has been available for quite a long time with a significant number of people served by it.

Speeds vary depending on which network, but can go up to 100Mbps, However there is a big polarisation between those that get it and those still relying on DSL products.

SOUTH AFRICA

1Mbps (this data comes from the ITU as OECD doesn't have figures for Africa).

Alongside countries such as Morocco, South Africa is one of the biggest broadband countries in Africa.

The primary delivery mechanism is via broadband. WIMAX penetration is still low. Although it is likely to become an important infrastructure in Africa, currently it is too expensive to be widely deployed.

ISRAEL

Israel's advertised figure is 2Mbps.

Israel has very high penetration levels with around 70% of households using a broadband connection.

There is quite a lot of cable services available alongside DSL and there has been quite a big government spend on broadband.

UNITED STATES

The US has an average speed of 8Mbps according to the OECD, although it is nearly half this (4.6Mbps) according to speedtest.net.

The US is unusual because it is one of the few countries in which cable is the largest connection network.

Typically cable is marketed at offering between 5Mbps and 20Mbps. Number of fibre providers, most notably Verizon which offers fibre to home, with speeds up to 20Mb, This is just available on the east coast. ATT is offering a hybrid DSL service while Qwest has just announced a fibre to street strategy.

MEXICO

Mexico's advertised speed is 2Mbps.

In Mexico the predominant infrastructure is broadband via DSL.

Its rich incumbent telecom firm TelMex are considering laying fibre and despite the fact that there is no large scale implementation it is likely to overtake the UK very soon in terms of the amount of fibre available.

JAPAN

Japan has an average speed of 93Mbps according to the OECD, but this falls to 10.6Mbps according to speedtest.net, which could be indicative of the fact that fibre is concentrated in the towns and cities.

Cable broadband is quite strong in Japan but the biggest market is in fibre to the home.

This has proved so popular with consumers that DSL is actually in decline. Companies are so advanced with fibre delivery that they are beginning to find DSL surplus to requirements.

The speeds fibre provides means applications such as sharing video files are standard.

Fibre also dramatically improves upload speeds, making it much more suitable for web 2.0 communication, with individuals contributing back to the internet with pictures and videos.

SOUTH KOREA

South Korea's figure is 43Mbps.

In South Korea there has also been a very strong fibre rollout, which has been enabled, at least in part, by state contributions.

Often regarded as something of a gold standard when it comes to super-fast broadband, an amazing 90% of homes have a broadband connection of between 50 and 100Mbps. :shocked:

They also pay the lowest rates in the world. There are pilot services offering connections starting at 1,000Mbps.

The big driver for fast broadband here is gaming and 43% of the population has a personal profile in the virtual world Cyworld, which recorded £5m worth of trade per month last year.

Those dawdling on slow UK connections can take heart from results from speedtest.net which show that some citizens are only achieving speeds of 3.6Mbps. This is because the extremely fast networks are concentrated in the towns and cities.

NEW ZEALAND

Average advertised speed of 13.5Mbps, falls to 2.4Mbps according to speedtest.net

Broadband comes largely via DSL in New Zealand where Telecom New Zealand is very dominant.

Cable is limited to one or two cities.

There are very specific challenges for providers in New Zealand. Because of the distances between houses there tends to be very long telephone lines, meaning quality is not great for many. International connectivity is also an issue because of its physical distance from the rest of the world. There is not much competition meaning speeds stay slow.

The model of local loop unbundling - opening the telephone exchanges to other operators - is being considered as is the idea of providing fibre to the street cabinet or to push DSL into remoter street cabinets to reduce line length.

POLAND

Average speed of 4Mbps, falls to 1.6Mbps according to speedtest.net.

In Poland there is virtually no local loop unbundling, which means little competition for the France Telecom-owned incumbent.

Speeds there aren't fast by western European standards although there are quite a lot of so-called LAN networks (Local Area Networks) using ethernet cable, which allow for super-fast speeds because of their limited geography. This phenomenon is peculiar to eastern European countries such as Poland where the existing infrastructure isn't great but it is relatively easy for local entrepreneurs to set up such systems quickly.

CHINA

ITU data puts China's broadband speed at 1Mbps.

China is fast becoming the world's largest broadband economy. It is laying quite a lot of fibre which is a less disruptive option in China because of the amount of new building work being done.

It already has 14 million fibre lines, compared to 9.6 million in Japan, 1.7m in the US and just a few thousand in the UK but it doesn't generate the same speeds as in other Asian countries because the fibre tends to feed into blocks of flats rather than individual dwellings.

LINK: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7098992.stm

What is the average download speed in Pakistan?

What is the average download speed in Pakistan?
33.6k

33.6k

That's the same as 8 years ago! Aren't they doing anything to switch a majority of people to wireless or cable high speed (which means at least 1mbps) ?

I checked the Pak ISP sites ans anything decent like 1mpbs is very expensive, around the 4000-5000/month range. They need to enhance the speed and capacity of Pakistan's internet. Perhaps laying fibre optic lines along with the WiMax network should be made a priority.

It's unacceptable that in 2008 they're still at the speed the developed world was at in the early 90s.

My brother says he can't even play runescape online because the internet is so slow there :ohno:

33.6k

Whats that in Mbps? 0.033 Mbps?

My speed is not that good. Sometimes I get 1.8 Mbps and sometimes 1.9 Mbps.

My school wireless.

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Whats that in Mbps? 0.033 Mbps?

It's probably kb/s.

It's probably kb/s.

But I was asking for that figure in Mbps.

^^ Duude, umais was probably kidding!

I don't think its that slow, even in Pakistan.

But I was asking for that figure in Mbps.

You don't know how to convert units?

You don't know how to convert units?

Whats that in Mbps? 0.033 Mbps?

^^ WTF man. I did it here. Just wanted to confirm it if its correct or not.

^^ WTF man. I did it here. Just wanted to confirm it if its correct or not.

You were correct. It's 0.03 Mbps if the speed he said really is the average.

^^ WTF man. I did it here. Just wanted to confirm it if its correct or not.

correct.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2242/2331340319_2d082b7350_o.jpg

I was kidding you know.

I say the average would be around 70kbps.

And mind you, that's kiloBITS, not BYTES.

^^ try with karachi server and the download speed will go up.

Where is Karachi server??? I can just see Lahore server(Wateen one) forPakistan there..

Just now:

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:banana:

Can you guys quit showing off? Its making me feel sad. Ignorance is bliss. I don't need to know how fast your computers are.

This is my wireless at home:

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I think my cable is faster, I'll test that later. I used to get as high as 25000 kb/s with the Washington DC server, but for some reason they took that off the list.

Can you guys quit showing off? Its making me feel sad. Ignorance is bliss. I don't need to know how fast your computers are.

:pet:

Can you guys quit showing off? Its making me feel sad. Ignorance is bliss.

you mean stuff like this?
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I don't need to know how fast your computers are.
That was INTERNET speed and not COMPUTER speed
:tongue3:

That was INTERNET speed and not COMPUTER speed
:tongue3:

Do I look like I care?

Yeah he's just showing off! :ohno:

Free Broad band services by Wateen at Islamabad Airport

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Micronet Braodband not working :(

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Is that Nicole Kidman on the ad? Dosen't matter if she is or not, I think she's eye candy.

And yeah, the internet facility is nice too.

Looks nice! :happy:

Awesome! Thanks Abid. :happy:

Wateen is so stupid. I was at the airport a few days back, and the mouse and the keyboard ahrdly worked. The internet speed wasn't all that great either. Good publicity. NOT!

Wateen is so stupid. I was at the airport a few days back, and the mouse and the keyboard ahrdly worked. The internet speed wasn't all that great either. Good publicity. NOT!

One more thing, LCD was too much tilted. Cant be seen properly

Yes, that too. Stupid angle to put the LCD at.

My wirless is

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Local Area Connection is

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Pakistan internet users in 2000: 133,900

Pakistan internet users in 2006: 12,000,000

Growth % : 8,861.9 %

Internet penetration: 7.3 %

56,600 broadband subscribers as of Sept.30/07, per ITU

Our internet growth is faster than India and China. We should be upto 5th position in Asia by 2015 :cheers:

Awesome stats!
Any idea on how fast our penetration is growing by each year?

and what position are we currently?

^^ Well, considering we went from under 0.1% to 7.6% in 6 years, it's growing pretty fast. Also, my graphic wasn't working in that post, but now I fixed it. As you can see, we are currently 10th in Asia as far as net users are concerned.

Alright, i see it now.

good work.

COOL! The map works now. How about posting the respective penetration* rates of those countries too.

* Not what you're thinking Ooga.

COOL! The map works now. How about posting the respective penetration* rates of those countries too.

* Not what you're thinking Ooga.

:?


Huh?

:?


Huh?

OK. Only I was thinking that.

Dirty mind! :ohno:

Look what I came across. WOW!

http://www.knight-moore.com/projects/SIIT-V2.jpg

COOL! The map works now. How about posting the respective penetration* rates of those countries too.

Pakistan is ranked 21st overall in terms of number of internet users by country.

Average penetration rate in Asia: 13.7%

Afghanistan penetration rate: 1.7%

Bangladesh penetration rate: 0.3%

China penetration rate: 15.9%

Hong Kong penetration rate: 69.9%

India penetration rate: 5.3%

Indonesia penetration rate: 8.5%

Japan penetration rate: 68.7%

South Korea penetration rate: 71.2%

Malaysia penetration rate: 60.0%

Phillipines penetration rate: 15.4%

Singapore penetration rate: 53.2%

Sri Lanka penetration rate: 2.0%

Taiwan penetration rate: 67.4%

Thailand penetration rate: 13.0%

Vietnam penetration rate: 21.4%

Pakistan is ranked 21st overall in terms of number of internet users by country.

Average penetration rate in Asia: 13.7%

Afghanistan penetration rate: 1.7%

Bangladesh penetration rate: 0.3%

China penetration rate: 15.9%

Hong Kong penetration rate: 69.9%

India penetration rate: 5.3%

Indonesia penetration rate: 8.5%

Japan penetration rate: 68.7%

South Korea penetration rate: 71.2%

Malaysia penetration rate: 60.0%

Phillipines penetration rate: 15.4%

Singapore penetration rate: 53.2%

Sri Lanka penetration rate: 2.0%

Taiwan penetration rate: 67.4%

Thailand penetration rate: 13.0%

Vietnam penetration rate: 21.4%

Ok. So ours is 7.3 %.

Sri Lanka is only at 2%? I expected them to be higher. Afghanistan (1.7%) is higher than BD (0.3%)? THe only other country we're better than is India. Atleast we're doing better than others in our region of Asia.

GO Sargodha, already coming in from two places and soon to be a third. :banana:

Baluchistan getting a line too. :yes:

Ok. So ours is 7.3 %.

Sri Lanka is only at 2%? I expected them to be higher. Afghanistan (1.7%) is higher than BD (0.3%)? THe only other country we're better than is India. Atleast we're doing better than others in our region of Asia.

I was surprised by Bangladesh's low figure too. This info is from my IT professor who gave us a document which contains info from various US communication companies. They complied a report on internet penetration rates in various countries.

Here is the site, but I can't find the specific page which has it: http://www.pewinternet.org/index.asp

I have the info in printed form. Here is another site I took the above graphic from: http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats.htm

I was surprised by Bangladesh's low figure too. This info is from my IT professor who gave us a document which contains info from various US communication companies. They complied a report on internet penetration rates in various countries.

Here is the site, but I can't find the specific page which has it: http://www.pewinternet.org/index.asp

I have the info in printed form. Here is another site I took the above graphic from: http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats.htm

Oh yeah. Internet world stats. I've seen in that website.

"penetration rates in various countries" :laugh:

E-commerce: barriers to its growth in Pakistan

ARTICLE (March 18 2008): Among the wonderful inventions of twentieth century, Internet has come to wield immense influence on our lives. From reading newspapers to monitoring the performance of companies on stock exchange, from learning the first aid techniques when in emergency to learning the recipe of making a cake when guests visit, and from listening to music to keeping abreast of the latest cricket scores, our lives have got increasing intertwined with internet.

Doing business online is yet another application of internet, which is changing the way business is done. The term electronic commerce or E-commerce may loosely be defined as doing business over the internet, selling goods and services which are delivered offline as well as products which can be "digitised" and delivered online such as computer software, videos, and music.

E-commerce in its wider sense encompasses all transactions involving business organisations, governments, or consumers that are done online through internet. However, the narrower view of E-commerce focuses only on transactions between Business and Consumers (Business to Consumer E-commerce or B-to-C E-commerce) and among two or more businesses (Business to Business E-commerce or B-to-B E-commerce).

Banking, entertainment, telecommunications, and manufacturing industries globally have already started using E-commerce business models, and have been reaping the benefits in terms of greater revenues and lesser costs.

Within these industries, Internet is used for four major tasks with respect to E-commerce: Firstly, attracting new customers through online marketing and advertising; secondly, serving existing customers via customer service and support function; thirdly, developing new markets and distribution channels for existing products; lastly, developing new information-based "digitised" products, which are then transmitted online.

Like every new technology, the potential uses of E-commerce were at first over-hyped, leading to the Dot Com Boom of 1996-2000, which was briefly followed by a crash that kicked many companies out of business; thereby, temporarily tarnishing the promising role of internet as an effective and state-of-the-art medium of business. However, with the survivors of the crash and the new comers doing well these days, the quantum of business online is expanding with rapid pace.

In Pakistan the size of E-commerce is small and uncertain at the moment. Yet as in most developed countries of the world, it is expected that with the realisation of full potential of this new mode of commerce in future, it is bound to gain a sizable chunk of business in Pakistan as well, due to the several potent advantages that E-commerce enjoys over the conventional mode of commerce like its open structure that surpasses all geographical barriers, low costs of transactions, low barriers to entry and improved access to information, besides more efficient management of supply and distribution.

However, currently the growth of E-commerce in Pakistan is hampered by a number of factors, which are discussed below. These barriers must first be removed for E-commerce to grow in the country.

1. MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT E-COMMERCE IN PAKISTAN Most people in Pakistan have developed wrong conception of E-commerce. They take a very limited view of E-commerce, restricting it to only those products which may be "digitised" and transmitted online through internet and the payments for which is also made online through credit cards.

This narrow view excludes the other three main functions of E-commerce outlined above ie attracting new customers, serving existing customers, and developing new markets and distribution channels for existing products. This misconception is among the main reasons that have held most Pakistani entrepreneurs with existing conventional business back from entry into the 'cyberspace'.

2. MISTRUST: Among the most important impediments to the growth of E-commerce in Pakistan is the issue of trust. Counterfeiting and distribution of below par products in the face-to-face transactions is a common problem in the country. How can people be expected to trust the sellers whom they do not know, and who would deliver goods online/offline after the payment is made.

The issue of trust is further aggravated by the lack of confidence people have with respect to the security and privacy of their personal information like credit cards, home addresses, phone numbers etc. The emergence of trustworthy web-based companies, with support/guarantees from Government or trustworthy multinational companies, in the county is required to dispel these fears of the consumers.

3. TRADITIONALIST NATURE OF PAKISTANI SOCIETY: A large number of people in Pakistan will take a long time to come round to the idea that they can order goods and make payments through internet from their homes without physically going out. This is due to the fact that on-site commerce has a socialising effect, which is altogether absent from E-commerce. In a strongly relationship-oriented society like Pakistan, people tend to form individual relationships and long term associations with the businessmen and vendors.

These relationships are maintained over the years and may not be easily replaced by the anonymity of the E-commerce transactions. Moreover, most of the retail business in Pakistan is conducted through small local enterprises rather than chains of departmental stores. These small local businesses are run by relatively less educated entrepreneurs who are least eager to embrace the new technology.

4. LOW LITERACY RATE The literacy rate of the country, according to official figures, is around 54 percent. Out of these 54 percent literate people at least 50 percent are computer illiterate. Thus, with around 75 percent of the population without computer literacy, the growth of E-commerce in the country cannot be expected to progress at any faster pace.

5. ACCESS TO TECHNOLOGY: In order to undertake E-commerce transactions, one must be connected to the World Wide Web, for which possession of a personal computer (PC) or a laptop is a basic requirement. Although the prices of computer hardware have declined in the past few years, yet a personal computer is still not affordable by vast majority of the people of the country. Besides a personal computer, a telephone line or cable line are also required for a user to get connected to the World Wide Web. Thus, high costs of computer hardware are proving to be a bottleneck to the growth of the E-commerce in the country.

6. ACCESS TO INTERNET SERVICES: It is true that in the past few years there has been a significant increase in the number of internet users in Pakistan, with some observers claiming that in Pakistan the internet access is now available to 800+ cities, towns and villages covering almost 97 per cent of the population.

Even if this, seemingly exaggerated, estimate is accepted, the per hour cost of internet use in Pakistan, along with the common problems of low speeds and getting disconnected frequently, render this wide accessibility of internet useless. For e-commerce to flourish we need high speed, cheap and reliable internet connections available to the vast majority of the population.

7. LACK OF E-TRANSACTION SUPPORT IN PAKISTAN: Online payment systems are an essential part of e-commerce, which require, inter alia, possession of personal credit cards by consumers. However, few people in Pakistan have personal credit cards. Among the various reasons people avoid getting credit cards from banks include possibility of unnecessarily getting into the debt trap.

The unpopularity of personal credit cards in Pakistan is responsible for the weak e-support infrastructure, forcing the use of old mechanism of money transfer like, cash payments, cheques, and postal orders which may work as viable substitutes to credit card for a short term to accommodate limited existing commerce of the country but cannot be relied upon for long.

8. POOR TRANSPORTATION/DISTRIBUTION CHANNELS An essential part of e-commerce is establishment of cheap, quick and reliable transportation channels for the physical distribution of those products which cannot be digitised and distributed online. In Pakistan, the Pakistan Postal Service, despite its extensive network and large number of employees is inefficient, to say the least; hence, unreliable. The private courier services, on the other hand, are expensive.

In the absence of any reliable and economical distribution channel, the web-based companies in Pakistan will be faced with the challenge of delivering their products at the doorsteps to their consumers without adding to price of the product.

http://www.brecorder.com/index.php?id=711070&currPageNo=1&query=&search=&term=&supDate=

The unpopularity of personal credit cards in Pakistan is responsible for the weak e-support infrastructure, forcing the use of old mechanism of money transfer like, cash payments, cheques, and postal orders which may work as viable substitutes to credit card for a short term to accommodate limited existing commerce of the country but cannot be relied upon for long.

I think online real-time e-transactions are possible even without a credit card. Take example of bank account connected to Paypal. If Paypal starts in Pakistan and we are able to connect our local bank account to it, it will be a breakthrough in e-commerce development in Pakistan and that too without need of a credit card.

If PayPal comes to Pakistan, I will be able to buy things off of ebay, even start my own selling business for things like carpets and clothes. Mad money to be made for Pakistanis on eBay.

Look what I came across. WOW!

http://www.knight-moore.com/projects/SIIT-V2.jpg

Good find even if its few yrs outdated. It'd be nice if the source of info is linked to legitimize the info. That way others can search it further and get updated.

^^ I don't know where I got it from. As I stumbled upon it while looking for maps on Pakistan. But its URL says: http://www.knight-moore.com/projects/SIIT-V2.jpg

See if you guys can find anything.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/249644472.png

^^ That's a relatively good speed, at least for how it used to be a couple of years ago. I heard PTCL upgraded all it's 256k customers to 512k.

IR can you watch YouTube videos and online streaming shows without having to pause for buffering?

http://www.speedtest.net/result/249644472.png
Abay kaunsa ISP hai tera?

Abay kaunsa ISP hai tera?

:lol:

Abay kaunsa ISP hai tera?

Khotalink.

:jk:

Khotalink.

:jk:

:rofl:

The speed changes everytime, before it was 0.92 Mbps now its 536 Kb/s :sly:

Free Broad band services by Wateen at Islamabad Airport

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z38/AbidSiddiqui/SS29/Picture027.jpg

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z38/AbidSiddiqui/SS29/Picture026.jpg




http://www.speedtest.net/result/249568352.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
My Location: Islamabad

The Technology:
From the backbone to the Access Points mounted on Warid's Towers to the CPE's (Customer Premises Equipment), every thing is a part of MOTOwi4 WiMax suite of solutions for WiMax implementation. Its based on 802.16e (a standard for WirelessMANs). The CPE operates at 3.5 Ghz.

The CPE (Motorolla's CPE i600) has 4 ethernet ports and 2 telephone ports. Its light and about the size of an A4 paper.

^^ whoa that is freaking FAST for Pakistan. Are you at home or at the airport?

^^ whoa that is freaking FAST for Pakistan. Are you at home or at the airport?

Home, using Wateen'S WiMax!!!

I don't quite understand how the billing system works for this:

http://www.wateen.com/images/BroadbandTariff.gif

There is gives different prices for different speeds at differnt "volumes". What's the "volume" thing?

i think its how much you can download...

per day? per week? per month? I can download 10 gb easily in 1 day.

And it's hardly 'unlimited' internet if theres a download cap on it.

what is the rate for? Seems monthly, so i guess its how much you can download in a month.

what is the rate for? Seems monthly, so i guess its how much you can download in a month.

It's on monthly basis and it is the amount of data uploaded + downloaded per month i-e data sent/received throughout the month.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/249568352.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
My Location: Islamabad

The Technology:
From the backbone to the Access Points mounted on Warid's Towers to the CPE's (Customer Premises Equipment), every thing is a part of MOTOwi4 WiMax suite of solutions for WiMax implementation. Its based on 802.16e (a standard for WirelessMANs). The CPE operates at 3.5 Ghz.

The CPE (Motorolla's CPE i600) has 4 ethernet ports and 2 telephone ports. Its light and about the size of an A4 paper.

Thats way faster than mine! :cry: :cry: :cry:

What's the "volume" thing?

Data Upload
Data Download
All the bytes sent & received

:(

It's on monthly basis and it is the amount of data uploaded + downloaded per month i-e data sent/received throughout the month.

That is the most retarded thing Wateen could come up with. Give high speed internet and then limit the download volume. :nuts:

Atleast PTCL and LinkdotNet learnt their lesson and removed the volume based packages.

That is the most retarded thing Wateen could come up with. Give high speed internet and then limit the download volume. :nuts:

Atleast PTCL and LinkdotNet learnt their lesson and removed the volume based packages.

As far as I know PTCL only gives unlimited volume for first 3 months on each connection

As far as I know PTCL only gives unlimited volume for first 3 months on each connection

They restructured around a month back.
http://www.ptcl.com.pk/contentp.php?NID=47

They have all unlimited packages now. No caps.

That is the most retarded thing Wateen could come up with. Give high speed internet and then limit the download volume. :nuts:

Atleast PTCL and LinkdotNet learnt their lesson and removed the volume based packages.

Almost all other broadband internet providers have such barriers. Only now PTCL and LinkdotNet have removed these barriers and that's why they are creating waves nowadays. The unlimited packages other DSL providers give start from around Rs.20K-25K and their normal packages (i-e of between Rs. 1000 and Rs. 5000) all have volume restrictions.

Data Upload
Data Download
All the bytes sent & received

:(

That is such bullshit! Why do they do that? I'd be soooo pissed if I was browing around and got a message "sorry, you have used up your alloted volume. Give us more money if you want to email your family" and theres 20 days still left in the month. :ohno:

http://ptcl.com.pk/images/files/uploads/file/ptcl_buzz_ad.jpg

Got this mail from Multinet

Dear Customer

This email is to inform you that Multinet Broadband will be introducing its new DSL Residential Packages effective from 12th March, 2008. All the existing packages have now converted into New Packages. Multinet will not be offering GB base packages from now to onwards. Please see bellow new packages details:-

Multinet New Residential Tariff

Multi BLUE
256Kbps Unlimited per month (Shared 1:10)
Rs.1200/-

Multi SILVER
512Kbps Unlimited per month (Shared 1:10)
Rs.2500/-

Setup Fee

Installation Charges PKR 499/-
(Free modem)

These rates also updated on our website http://www.multi.net.pk

Thanking You,

Channel Sales Team
Multinet Pakistan Private Limited
021-111-021-021 Ext.3027,3028,3029


Thay are also offering these packages in Islamabad but their website shows only

http://www.multi.net.pk/Images/orangeboxcities.gif

Do you guys know if any of the ISPs offer high speed internet/broadband through its pre-paid cards and not through a monthly sign up?

Got this mail from Multinet




Thay are also offering these packages in Islamabad but their website shows only

http://www.multi.net.pk/Images/orangeboxcities.gif
Will be soon out of business. LDN and PTCL are providing twice or more bandwidth for that price.

And also, 512 costs more than twice the rate of 256??? Who the fuck came up with that?

Will be soon out of business. LDN and PTCL are providing twice or more bandwidth for that price.

Yeah, I have multinet in Khi. We were just waiting for them to upgrade their package and they came up with this BS and shard ratios.

Just wondering whether PTCL or LDN (LinkDotNet) have shared ratios on the bandwidth. Atleast they don't mention it anywhere.

Of course it's shared, the contention ratio is unknown though. I've heard various figures, so don't know which one's correct.

My fiend told me that PTCL also giving shared connection but they never mentioned & it took months to get your connection

Atleast multinet is not hiding anything

anyways

on Multinet's 128k i was getting around 13 k download

today after changing my connection to 256k i am getting 17 k

:)

No one's answering me :(

No one's answering me :(

Not in Lahore or Islamabad, not sure about Karacki though

Do these packages include static IP? Here is what my ISP Micronet is offering now :(

Package-1 (only dynamic IP)

Speed: 512 kbps download + 256 kbps upload
Monthly traffic allowed: Unlimited
Price: Rs. 1200


Package-2 (choice of static IP or dynamic IP)

Speed: 512 kbps download + 256 kbps upload
Monthly traffic allowed: 9 GB
Price: Rs. 1950


Since I need a static IP, I've to stick to the 2nd package. Frankly, it doesn't make sense to have limited traffic for high price than the unlimited one.

And also, 512 costs more than twice the rate of 256??? Who the fuck came up with that?


PTCL also does the same. Their 1 Mbps package costs Rs. 2000 while 2 Mbps package is of Rs. 5000.

Why do you need a static IP, business? :?

Do these packages include static IP? Here is what my ISP Micronet is offering now :(

Package-1 (only dynamic IP)

Speed: 512 kbps download + 256 kbps upload
Monthly traffic allowed: Unlimited
Price: Rs. 1200


Package-2 (choice of static IP pr dynamic IP)

Speed: 512 kbps download + 256 kbps upload
Monthly traffic allowed: 9 GB
Price: Rs. 1950


Since I need a static IP, I've to stick to the 2nd package. Frankly, it doesn't make sense to have limited traffic for high price than the unlimited one.

In my opinion Micronet is best isp in Islamabad

Why do you need a static IP, business? :?

No, not for business. I need it to experiment with the websites I make and planning to start an online radio for a community too. So, it also needs static IP.

In my opinion Micronet is best isp in Islamabad

They surely have the best customer support but I think now they have lagged behind in competition with PTCL and LinkDotNet in terms of prices.

They surely have the best customer support but I think now they have lagged behind in competition with PTCL and LinkDotNet in terms of prices.

I think it's a trade-off. For me Multinet is the best in khi, despite being behind PTCL and LinkDotNet in terms of price. This just due to the fact that they are more open with their packages (shared ratios) and have excellent customer service unlike PTCL and LDN.

PTCL also does the same. Their 1 Mbps package costs Rs. 2000 while 2 Mbps package is of Rs. 5000.
That's retarded, unless they have a different contention ratio.

I think it's a trade-off. For me Multinet is the best in khi, despite being behind PTCL and LinkDotNet in terms of price. This just due to the fact that they are more open with their packages (shared ratios) and have excellent customer service unlike PTCL and LDN.

Same with me

I am using multinet from last 1 1/2 year and it was best for me in terms of unlimited volume in 1500 Rs., but now almost all the isps have started unlimited shared packages, so i will definately test the others service tooo

Good find even if its few yrs outdated. It'd be nice if the source of info is linked to legitimize the info. That way others can search it further and get updated.

^^ I don't know where I got it from. As I stumbled upon it while looking for maps on Pakistan. But its URL says: http://www.knight-moore.com/projects/SIIT-V2.jpg

See if you guys can find anything.

Pakia I finally found the website. Here is it http://www.knight-moore.com/projects/SIIT-VITUreport1.html

And here's one more map. Don't know If I have already posted it or not:

http://www.knight-moore.com/projects/SIIT-V1.jpg

^^ Population coverage 75%? Not even most developed countries have that high internet penetration.

^^ Population coverage 75%? Not even most developed countries have that high internet penetration.

You forgot to read the part where it says "Internet access 33 cities". 75% is probably just the potential that it can reach.

PTCL Vfone Internet:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/260548048.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

PTCL Vfone Internet:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/260548048.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
:pet:

PTCL Vfone Internet:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/260548048.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

:hahano:

I think that's internet on the phone. Hence, the slow speed.





I hope

I think that's internet on the phone. Hence, the slow speed.

I hope

It's internet on wireless phone (i-e V-phone). The maximum speed got at normal dial-up or on PTCL's phone-on-net service is 56 kbps, and that's the ideal theoretical speed. Normally, it's less than 48 kbps.

So, this Vphone's internet is much better as compared to the normal PTCL's dialup internet.

http://epaper.dawn.com/Web/Article/2008/05/05/001/05_05_2008_001_005.jpg

http://www.speedtest.net/global.php?continent=4&country=21

Not sure how reliable these figures are but if enough Pakistani-based users test their speed on Speedtest.net, it should be pretty accurate.

Fastest ISP: Cyber Internet Services
Slowest ISP: Worldcall Telecom

Fastest Province: Punjab
Slowest Province: NWFP

Fastest City: Multan
Slowest City: Karachi

^^It's treating 'Clifton' as a separate city. Clifton is a neighbourhood of Karachi.

http://www.speedtest.net/global.php?continent=4&country=21

Not sure how reliable these figures are but if enough Pakistani-based users test their speed on Speedtest.net, it should be pretty accurate.

Fastest ISP: Cyber Internet Services
Slowest ISP: Worldcall Telecom

Fastest Province: Punjab
Slowest Province: NWFP

Fastest City: Multan
Slowest City: Karachi

It's not the slowest ISP/province/city, it's the 10th fastest ISP/province/city.

So anyone in Sargodha actually got working broadband?
It seems only the Wateen WiMax is an option- anyone have any practical experience of this in Sargodha?
What about the cable companies- are there any in Sargodha offering cable broadband?

So anyone in Sargodha actually got working broadband?
It seems only the Wateen WiMax is an option- anyone have any practical experience of this in Sargodha?
What about the cable companies- are there any in Sargodha offering cable broadband?

In a place like Sargodha???





Are you kidding me????





:rofl:






















*fears Wally's wrath* :shifty:

I'll spare you this time.

And jsjazz, the Broaband wires had not be spread all through the city when i went back, in 2006. I lived near Qanchi Morr, and broadband was not available there. However in the city center, the bazarr and trust plaza it was avaliable. Maybe they have extended it by now, its been a couple years. And i hate the dial up there, pisses the shit out of me!

im sure its available in New Satellite town and around those parts, but where i used to live it was very difficult to obtain.

Cannot believe people are still living on dial up in this day and age :ohno:

Most people in the big 3 have DSL now, and it's pretty fast. At least fast enough to play lag free video games online.

So anyone in Sargodha actually got working broadband?
It seems only the Wateen WiMax is an option- anyone have any practical experience of this in Sargodha?
What about the cable companies- are there any in Sargodha offering cable broadband?
I'm pretty sure you can get either PTCL or LDN DSL.

Thanks for the replies folks.
The PTCL website doesn't list Sargodha as one of the areas they supply broadband- maybe its out of date and if I ring them things may have changed.

"A place like Sargodha" :lol:Unfortunately, I can't go elsewhere just to get broadband!
You are right, the dial up sucks- sometimes I sit there for 5 minutes waiting for a page to reload! Frustrating +++++.
I don't mind paying if I can get decent access.

Who/What is LDN DSL?

Thanks for the replies folks.
The PTCL website doesn't list Sargodha as one of the areas they supply broadband- maybe its out of date and if I ring them things may have changed.

"A place like Sargodha" :lol:Unfortunately, I can't go elsewhere just to get broadband!
You are right, the dial up sucks- sometimes I sit there for 5 minutes waiting for a page to reload! Frustrating +++++.
I don't mind paying if I can get decent access.

Who/What is LDN DSL?

LDN is LinkDotNet. It is an Orascom company and it also offers DSL.

Thanks for the replies folks.
The PTCL website doesn't list Sargodha as one of the areas they supply broadband- maybe its out of date and if I ring them things may have changed.

"A place like Sargodha" :lol:Unfortunately, I can't go elsewhere just to get broadband!
You are right, the dial up sucks- sometimes I sit there for 5 minutes waiting for a page to reload! Frustrating +++++.
I don't mind paying if I can get decent access.

Who/What is LDN DSL?
Call up PTCL and LDN. 111600111(LDN). 1632 (from memory) for PTCL

Thanks. I'll try that.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/288695752.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Yeah baby. :banana:

^^ Nice speed :yes:

SHOW OFF! :ohno:

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7910/captureau2.jpg

Nice, but GPRS/EDGE in Pakistan is painfully slow and unreliable.

I have used GPRS in PK its not that bad