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Posted by michaelII

don't know if you already know it, but the austrian architect wolf prix from coop himmelblau said in an interview that he/they are currently working on a skyscraper/highrise in nyc.
F.Z.: What is the project are you working on at the moment?

W.D.P: At the moment we are working on a highrise in New York.

F.Z.: Would you like to explain this project?

W.D.P: It is located right next to the Norman Foster building on the Eighth Avenue and Fifty-fifth Street and it will have a twisted shape, it's a hotel and apartments, with a a very distinctive appearance. I would like to make a statement: architecture now is an occupied territory, occupied by the building industry, by the business clients, by money. An architect today has to decide whether he will go into the resistance or will be a player, will be on the side of the money. I think that good architecture can only exist when the architect decides to go in the resistance.

Uhhh... all I can say is... f***!

Is this another NY skyscraper megaproject/area or are the twin towers River Place II?

I thought I was dreaming for a second.

you have to love new york. Im getting a bit sick of twisted towers though. nevertheless - awesome!

Uhhh... all I can say is... f***!

Is this another NY skyscraper megaproject? Are the twin towers River Place II?

Nope. That is the Time Warner towers. :)

New York is awesome

Nope. That is the Time Warner towers. :)


That came to my mind for a second but that model doesn't look like the TW Center much. Who's the developer?

WTF........is going on in NYC??????

this is one damn good tower........it was my dream heving a twisted one in midtown, it came real......

but the name is weired.....

I LOVE NYC...

i like it

Whoa, another one. Looks really nice IMO, good for mixing things up in that area since nearly everything around there is a box.

It looks pretty good, although i dont think it suites new york

WOW! I love it! If it twisted any more it would suck.WOOOOOOOOOOW.This is great! How many supertalls are u/c or proposed in New York????

It looks like the BoA and Times Tower had a kid.

I swear, the excitement of opening up the "Supertalls" forum and seeing a new thread with the words "NEW YORK" in its title is second to none.

I think I'll have to see a little bit more of this tower to get a feel for it. Hopefully it gets built though - another thousand-footer will certainly be great for the city. :)

wow, interesting, really cool

The building's twists look amazing.

But is the project real? Any other info or articles besides the interview?

Hey, a new (super)tallest for the North of Midtown would be fine.
The twisted shape looks a bit adventurous from some perspectives, but overall interesting and not as a copy of Turning Torso, Infinity Tower, Chicago Spire or other "twisters". This would be an enrichment for the NY skyline, and I hope this project will find the necessary investors and pass the approvement process soon.

Then I'd call this location the "Gr8 Avenue" :colgate:

... W.D.P: ....I would like to make a statement: architecture now is an occupied territory, occupied by the building industry, by the business clients, by money. An architect today has to decide whether he will go into the resistance or will be a player, will be on the side of the money. I think that good architecture can only exist when the architect decides to go in the resistance.
I don't get this statement by the architect Wolf Prix. This sounds as if there were no chance for innovative architecture, and only cheap boxes were built for the quick money nowadays... but aren't there dozens of spectacular projects going on right now worldwide, that would've just been considered as impossible to realize 30 years ago? So in fact Prix is a "player" in my eyes, especially if this tower makes it. For a true "resistance", he should build igloos on Baffin Island. ;)

One question:
Is "New York Tower" the proposed name, or only a temporary placeholder?

design's kinda dull...IMO, not worthy to bear the name of the so-called world's greatest city...

i Can't believe it :banana:, another supertall for NY!!!

Nice twist, good slenderness; I can't wait to see it go UC. :cool:

The model looks quite good, but the renders look weird. But definitely good for NY! :okay:

Sweet! I like it!

Nice, very nice !!! I like it !

nice tower. hope they build it

I like this project :okay:. :cheers:

Awesome! Spectaculaire! Fabuloso!

Thoughtful name I must say. ;) Tee hee

But it looks well, I'm glad NYC is getting many super talls.

Okay, I'm officially tired of the twist. Talk about a lack of creativity.

is it right across from Foster's tower?

Gorgeous. This will look better in person and will look good in the skyline mixed in with the other towers. It's different, but not ridiculous, I think it's great and love the twist. It fits NYC fine, NYC is not all boxes, and this is still on the classy side. I'm glad that it's not all bluish glass from top to bottom.

Wow another supertall in NYC.. I love it.

All that needs to be said is "New York kicks ass!"

classy and sleek
i dont like the bulky base though :/

Wow a new take on twisting towers just in time to keep the whole idea from becoming stale. It's a very interesting design and from the renders and models the twist will make it appear to really extend/loom over the street which would be a very cool effect imo. One I'm definitely hoping will go from Pro to U/C very very soon!

jeezzzz they keep coming and coming those 1000 (+) ft towers for New York..
Good though, but I would like to see renders with the Hearst Tower beside it ;)
Shape needs to get used on. :)

I've got to agree, the twist is starting to get dated. Plus take a close look at the model, if you'll notice the building corners are vertical, which means that the "twist" occurs inside the footprint of the tower, (if you looked down on it from the top) Now take a look at the computer generated images, and the sides of the tower seem to overhang the footprint by a large margin, an obvious exaggeration of what this tower will actually look like, IMO the twist should begin closer to (or at) the base of the tower, and be much more gradual to the top.

Don't get me wrong, i like the idea of another 1000'+ tower for NYC, but would like to see better architecture, and planning in this case

Amazing tower.It's incredible the amount of new good projects for NYC we have seen these days.

I don't think twisting architecture is dated. How many twisting towers does NYC have? If it doesn't have any than it'll be a good addition to the skyline b/c it's still classy. Hell, I'd like to see some nice art-deco buildings go up in certain places nowadays too.

Bang me up the ass! I am SO SICK of these twisted towers. Enough! Enough! ENOUGH!!

I don't think twisting architecture is dated. How many twisting towers does NYC have? If it doesn't have any than it'll be a good addition to the skyline b/c it's still classy. Hell, I'd like to see some nice art-deco buildings go up in certain places nowadays too.

Well i'm certainly with you on the Art Deco thing..........

Bang me up the ass! I am SO SICK of these twisted towers. Enough! Enough! ENOUGH!!

as far as i know this one is the first twisting skyscraper for NY, so i don't know what you have :lol:

^^ i think he thought his sick of twisted towers worldwide ZZ!

Bang me up the ass! I am SO SICK of these twisted towers. Enough! Enough! ENOUGH!!
You know, thats not a very smart thing to yell in a fairly gay forum.

Very nice design, will be a good addition to NY skyline if it will be built.

You know, thats not a very smart thing to yell in a fairly gay forum.

^^ WTF........should this mean?

But has the History , Heart and Soul of a True Skyscrapercity , and these new Talls will only add more Gems to her Crown :banana:

^^ WTF........should this mean?

there was a poll a while back and the majority of ssc users are gay :baeh3:

^^ OMG......

not OMG, i saw that thread also, and he's right :lol:

but back to topic now please :)

Interesting re: the demographics.

Still don't like the twist. At least when it's done for its own sake. I don't mind subtle twists, or iconic twists like the Chicago Spire (my favorite U/C).

You know, thats not a very smart thing to yell in a fairly gay forum.

Not surprising. Has been my experience.

Looks very much like the twisting torso. Love th see this get built in NYC

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/807/waldorf6ab2.jpg
That building is very similar then that building in Chicago? very similar.

^^Yeah i just noticed the similarity but the proposal for NY has a square top. The one for Chicago has a top like SWFC in Shanghai.

Whats the deal with this one anyway is it a proposal or just a visionary? We need Nyguy back on this forum.

Yes we do... I'd almost forgotten about this one, wonder what's going on with it.

Looks like a twisting SWFC to me. :(

if theres no info on this building, then why do you guys post dumb ass comments. I thought there was something going on with this project.

The twisting shanghai world financial centre

Beautiful!!!! Muito lindo!!!
Maravilhoso!

this building looks nothing like SWFC :dunno:
The one in Chicago does (cant remember the name!) though

^^It is Waldorf=Astoria
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=528568

IMO this skyscraper won't fit the Art Deco style of NY.

I'm not sure about this one. It dosen't have that New York feel to it. New York should go for buildings that are New York and a twisting tower dosen't have the style for this great city. But apart from that I believe that this is one good looking skyscraper and I appricate that it dosen't twist to much. If it gets built it will probally blow my mind away.

And on a side note, nothing beats the original twisting tower. The Turning Torso in Malmö Sweden.

http://www.mediaarchitecture.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/TurningTorso11.jpg

Wonderful

Infinity will look better :)

I love this building!

Infinity will look better :)

Get a grip. :)

Why can't they build a box.

Because there are thousand of boxes already a few weird shape towers won't make any different only make the skylines more interesting :lol:

This building won't get built. The American economy is rolling in shit right now.

^Yeah, just like dozens of other supertall skyscrapers aren't going up all over NYC and America, utter genius.

Wasn't the Emipire State building built during the depression?

True.

The first supertall was built during the depression, let not forget that.

A nice tower! I'm tired of twisted tower designs though

It'll look great in NYC. I couldn't care less what people are tired of and whether it's "NYC-like". It'll look great in the NYC skyline if it's built.

ew

So what are the odds of this one being built?

So what are the odds of this one being built?

None. This building was canceled ages ago, I don't understand why the thread is still alive...

correction: this precise locations was canceled, but the it is expected to rise in some other part of the city. Eather way, the desing and name would change, so this thread still has no reason to live.

^^ :(
That's what i thought, thanks.

It'll look great in NYC. I couldn't care less what people are tired of and whether it's "NYC-like". It'll look great in the NYC skyline if it's built.

yes, it would perfectly blend in with the other scrapers. It would be 'boring' if it was a solitary building

None. This building was canceled ages ago, I don't understand why the thread is still alive...

correction: this precise locations was canceled, but the it is expected to rise in some other part of the city. Eather way, the desing and name would change, so this thread still has no reason to live.

When did this happen? It was never posted here.

At least it still has hope to rise on Manhattan Island... I wonder where else they were planning this tower. Downtown seems like the best choice, but it won't happen there.

Yeah, I recieved news about this sometime ago. Downtown would definitely not be a great place as it'll be difficult to have a good perspective of the building in such tight narrow streets. It'd fit in real nice in midtown though, where one will actually be able to appreciate the slight leaning effect it'll have over the streets..unless the whole design changes, which is more likely to happen...

What the he*ll are you people talking about. If this is the Girasole supertall thread it should be right on track to be built. I never heard anything about a cancelation. Ecspecailly now with the 7-line subway expansion, Related/Goldman building 13.5 msf of grade-A commercial space over the western yards and... oh yea, Brookfield building another 5-7 msf over the eastern yards that is already in site prep... I just walked by today and signs are up along with equipment already going to work for the platform. Cancelation...?

this is not the Girasole Thread ^^

Well I'm guess the next best place is near the Hudson Yards. There's a lot of space available in the area since it's mostly old buildings and warehouses.

I love it!!
finally, a twist tower for new york!

this is not the Girasole Thread ^^

Sorry, I did not look on page one. I never even heard or seen this proposal before. Guess that's a good thing when so many supertalls are being proposed in NYC that you can't even keep track of them all.

My worst nightmare comes true, a twisting tower in a high density cluster, and with sharp edges, auch. I personally hope they rethink this.

Who knows, it might look spectacular... but I rarely like sharp pointed edges. The renders are very simplistic though. Il be waiting for more clear illustrations.

^ Don't worry. It wont get built. Not in this form anyways.

do you have any evidence that it won't get build or why are you so sure about that?

On WNY someone hinted that this project was dead for one reason or another.

do you have any evidence that it won't get build or why are you so sure about that?

I said it wasn't going to get built either, and I red that a few months ago...

If I find my source again I'll let you posted

This city has the most "iffy" supertalls ever right now. Basically, every supertall, dozens of them all over NYC, save the four WTC supertalls and three or four others, are 'up in the air.' Let's hope the MoMA Tower and friends can be taken of the 'iffy list.'

^ MOMA better be taken off that list. It would be a HUGE shame if it never becomes reality.

any progress???

news will appear as when it becomes available

stop bumping old threads!

just another building that will be cancled like other buildings in the USA

who said it was cancelled and thats not a question? I had to rewrite this because the thread should be dead

^^Could be another unnecessary user, so no sweat

this tower seems questionable, anyone with news?

I heard this building may be revived considering the growing real estate market in NYC. Is this true?

It's u/c but it's a roughly 600 foot glass box.

The design wasn't all that great to begin with.

Any chance of this design being built in another part of te city?

Highly unlikely

Well sorry for bumping this. Someone I know said somethig is being built on this site. I didnt know it was a 600ft glass box. Is there a thread for that building?

As the financial capital of the world, NY needs buildings like this with large floor plates.

As the financial capital of the world, NY needs buildings like this with large floor plates.

do you know where is the render of this box?

do you know where is the render of this box?

250 W55th St.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3274/2615088398_4a4d5867fa.jpg?v=0

Thats whats being built on the site? Then where is the New York tower being built?

^^ It went into the never built section, i guess.

The site was sold and this bland box is what the new owners chose to build. What's more, the steel is rising at the site! Sometimes an ugly win is still a win.

If it resembles that render then it'll be far from bland. The tower shown in that rendering is exquisite!

It's dated. Which many ppl stated in skyscraper thread.

250 W55th St.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3274/2615088398_4a4d5867fa.jpg?v=0

This is beautiful :drool:

So so so ugly !

I see this one, and the close by Hearst Tower as "uneven twins". They will have very simmilar heights, and mass. Should work well, with the TWC, and the close by supertalls. The pyramid on 12 Avenue, and the Riverside centre will add a futuristic part, while the campus project, at the MET, will add more bulk. This part of the skyline will be amazing. And i din't mention the 220 CP tower, which will add another 170m density.

Not ugly, just boring and boxy.

aaaww i was hoping for some thing a little more interesting

i really like the design, but it doesnt really look like 300m

Big cities need boxes. Chicago is the land of boxes, and London is adding yet another box to its supply.

http://www.propertyweek.com/pictures/458xAny/8/7/3/1679873_gpe_pic___100_Bishopsgate_CMYK.jpg

Thats a nice looking box.

I don't see why towers like the one pictured above are called "boxes." The roof outline may be a square or rectangle, but the flaring on that tower towards the bottom sets it apart from boxes.

Maybe I'm thinking too literally, but to me towers like the Aon Center and Trump World Tower are all that can be called "boxes."

So if this project was "cancelled" and replaced by a 600ft "box", why is this page still here and why are people still talking about it? Shouldn't it be moved somewhere else?

Yeah, this is cancelled. There is something else being built on site.

I don't see why towers like the one pictured above are called "boxes." The roof outline may be a square or rectangle, but the flaring on that tower towards the bottom sets it apart from boxes.

Maybe I'm thinking too literally, but to me towers like the Aon Center and Trump World Tower are all that can be called "boxes."

You're right, the building above is no box :cheers:

And kanto knows about boxes :L

Elegant

Big cities need boxes.

We would be more than happy to land all of the boring International box projects in your town.

I'm sure that would really irritate Charles since he hates International style as much as I do.

We would be more than happy to land all of the boring International box projects in your town.

I'm sure that would really irritate Charles since he hates International style as much as I do.

Trust me ... Id be mire than happy to accept boxes in my city. Glasgow has no tall buildings! :(

any pics?

We would be more than happy to land all of the boring International box projects in your town.

I'm sure that would really irritate Charles since he hates International style as much as I do.

Charles will have to avert his eyes from these monstrosities during the Olympics.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Canary.wharf.from.thames.arp.jpg

Too ugly for New York!

Charles will have to avert his eyes from these monstrosities during the Olympics.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Canary.wharf.from.thames.arp.jpg

This is so beautiful, if only my city had such buildings :drool: The tallest we have is only 112 meters tall :cry: