I'll just merged this with the backed up thread when it comes back.

Don't ask when it'll be back, because no-one knows!

Anyhow...

OK well to kick off the E thread Mk.II ..

By my calculations there should have been a core pour Sat/Mon but then theres been a wee bit of rain in Melb apparently recently eh?

Also as (I think) kasper noted, the crane rose Tuesday.. so keep your eyes peeled for a core pour Wed if it ain't already happened ...

All up hopefully should be a core rise by this weekend. I'll be back in action doing the daily drive-by on Thursday so hardly a panel will be missed!

Originally posted by tayser
I'll just merged this with the backed up thread when it comes back.

Don't ask when it'll be back, because no-one knows!

Anyhow...

Sorry to be off topic, but is there a back-up for the World Tower thread?

see NSW section. the vic and nsw forums droped well over 1000 posts!

Woohoo! Crane core rise. So the core should rise any day now.


James.

I went down there yesterday (Tuesday) and the Putzmeister was working frantically in the core, indicating a pour in the core.

yeah, we will probably get a core rise either on friday, or on the weekend.

The glass faceade is coming along nicely too. hopefully., they will rip right into is and it will be full steam ahead !

cheers

lozza

sorry guys but looks like the official Eureka thread is gone. jan doesnt think he can get it back. also Wt thread. what a bastard!!
i still cant believe it!

just on core rise. so it will reach 39 this week! wow then in to the 40's!!

Shame about the of the original threads.

:(

Maybe a minute silence in memory of.




James.

The other posts et al will be back once we figure out a way to get em back..

Use this from now on.

LSS.com.au webcam:

http://www.lss.com.au/webcam/webcaml.jpg

The last core rise was on the 12th was it not? that was 15 days ago..

Originally posted by Lil' Flip
The last core rise was on the 12th was it not? that was 15 days ago..
yeah its pretty much every 2 weeks approx.

Originally posted by Lil' Flip
The last core rise was on the 12th was it not? that was 15 days ago..

We have had a lot of rain....I would have guess probably 3 working days at least would have been lost...

I was down there yesterday and got some shots when I noticed from Flinders St that the crane was hauling up some glass. Wasn't going to post the pics though as there was no spectacular change in things, apart from a few new glass panels and the about-to-rise core getting poured.

But since there's a dearth of photos now that our "virtual" Eureka has been WTCed, I may as well give people something to look at besides the webcam suggested by Tayser:

http://pnavy.com/prburt/albums/album01/IMGP0440.jpg

http://pnavy.com/prburt/albums/album01/IMGP0437.jpg

http://pnavy.com/prburt/albums/album01/IMGP0441.jpg

yea im going to southbank tomorrow (thursday) and im probably gonna visit eureka tower. geez its really startin to look huge...

oh what! i just looked at my posts... i only got 59? and just a member? oh man its gone down more that double what it is now!!

Nice pics Philip Burt! That glass is looking very nice and shiny (as it does)!;)

Magnicient stuff!!

Yep the core pour on Tuesday was 12 working days since the previous rise (on the 11th) .. that's *including* potential days lost due to rain (which I'm not sure about) so it's pretty much on schedule for 10 working days btw rise & pour and then 2-3 days to the next rise ..

I'd say barring rain it should rise Friday .. which will be nice because I should finally be back! (I missed my flight home thanks to American Airlines incompetence) ..

Also lozza & guys keep your eyes peeled for an east floor rise on Thursday or Friday !!

Originally posted by tayser
The other posts et al will be back once we figure out a way to get em back..

Use this from now on.

LSS.com.au webcam:

http://www.lss.com.au/webcam/webcaml.jpg

I still can't believe that in a couple of months Eureka's core will be so high that we wont be able to tell if they actually raised the core just by looking through this webcam ... I LOVE IT
:cheers:

We'll probably have to get the guys from LSS to angle their webcam up a bit higher when the time comes :D

a brain, there has already been a south east plate rise early this wleek from memory. they were pouring the floor for the north west section yesterday ( wednesday) , so we should get the north west rise soon

cheers

lozza :rock:

Just looking at that webcam, the crane has gone up ahead of the highly anticipated core rise.

Fabian, I know you want your 4500 posts back, but please take an extra five seconds to make sure that you don't repeat what somebody has already said in the same page of a thread.

This forum hasn't been the same since the hack.:rant:

Well one things for sure the new thread has got rid of my blasted line error pop up crap.

Heres some more silly calculas, when Ive got nothing else to do with my time.

The crane boom is 50M with the fully extended crane rise the total is about 70 so the top of the E crane should be about 200M.
In other words the LLU software company will have to adjust their webcam to fit E in. Back to more serious stuff now.

:nuts:

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/southbankpano2808031_small.jpg

See larger version of pano here: http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=56806

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid76/pd05b21d45f17f7c3f7ee958e26d38e0b/fb4197a3.jpg
edited by cul

hehe awesome

Originally posted by derf
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid76/pd05b21d45f17f7c3f7ee958e26d38e0b/fb4197a3.jpg

ummm...is there meant to be an image here derf 'cause I can't see it >( Anyone else having the same probs??

edited by cul

If the picture is showing up as an Imagestation logo, or if you want to see the full-size version of it, just copy this url into your address bar. :)

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid76/pd05b21d45f17f7c3f7ee958e26d38e0b/fb4197a3.jpg.orig.jpg

:D :D :D Now I can see it!! Awesome work derf!!

BTW, just looking at the comparison between the Rialto and the big E, even though the Rialto is further away in the pano shot from tays, it still looks as though both rialto towers are even narrower than the big E. How much narrower is the big E going to get at the top compared to what it is at the base?

wow hard to imagine it being that huge!!!

Awesome image there Derf. It will be year, and next year only that Eureka's true height impact will be better comprehensible (obviously)...bring it on!:guns1:

Originally posted by ciaobellaxo
:D :D :D Now I can see it!! Awesome work derf!!

BTW, just looking at the comparison between the Rialto and the big E, even though the Rialto is further away in the pano shot from tays, it still looks as though both rialto towers are even narrower than the big E. How much narrower is the big E going to get at the top compared to what it is at the base?
cia- the bottom section of Eureka looking from yarra river will be 48m wide.From level64/eastern wing) upwards it will be only 25m wide. this section is nearly 100m high.
the width of eureka looking from west or east elevation is 53m the whole way up tower.

Core rise this morning.
Now the top of the core box is level with IBM (131M)
Level 39 exposed.

Its fun watching E grow from my loungeroom window.

Hey great render, is that the top out shot?

To answer my own question.

No its not the top out shot.

Reason; This 'shot' is taken from the Rialto ob deck. And the top of the core box appears lower, so theres more in it yet, like about 60M more or nearly 200'. Shit.

yeah, there was a core rise this morning !

Nearly half way now ! only 2 rises to go till it hits 45 !!

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cheers

lozza

Went by this morning at 8:50 and no core rise yet. But I had the feeling that it would rise :)

Nice work.


James.

Its -really- starting to look like a "skyscraper" now - walk towards it from the South and you'll know what I mean (start near where the ABC offices are and walk up Southbank Boulevard)

getting more and more noticable too from St. K Rd.

:D

Ditto twofold tays..

Got back from USA today and I find that Eureka has blossomed into a behemoth ...

http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/DSC00539.jpg

The last time I took a City Rd shot - Eureka still looked like a stump .. now it actually *looks like* a tower under construction !!

http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/DSC00536.jpg

Glass is appearing everywhere like moss now.. and do I detect a certain 'Bank of China'-esque-ness about it ?? :D

yeah! Noticed that too - the angles that we're so used to seeing on the Northern Side are looking el-schmicko on the Southern side (as the office podium blocks most of the tower podium)

Shock to the system flying from (Texas I assume ?) the US to a Melbourne winter A-Brain ? ;)

OOOOH YEAH @ 2nd pic

:D :D :D :guns1: :guns1: :guns1: :D :D :D

Hey guys,

It just seems to me that the floorplates have gone gang-busters!!! It felt as if they were just slowly creeping up but now since the last time I looked it seems they have gone up about 5 or 6 levels overnight!!! It's starting to get going a little faster now or is that not right??

MG2

The gap between the floorplates and the core reminds me of when GPT was built. The core back then was built up quickly and the floorplates couldn't keep up.

That second shot by A-brain is the best photo of Eureka's glass I've ever seen! As good as it is to see another core rise, it is really the floorplates that have made the tower suddenly look tall. Once the floors reach the height where the core is now, I imagine the building will have a really tall 'feel' to it like nothing we've seen here so far. It will completely change the way we perceive this building.

And I've just found the first 850 or so posts of the old thread in my internet cache. Brings back memories. :)

Originally posted by derf

And I've just found the first 850 or so posts of the old thread in my internet cache. Brings back memories. :)

derf, don't empty your cache, preferably don't do anything on your computer and notify Jan!!!

EDIT: Cached SSC files in my cache show an expiry daye of January 1, 2070. Unfortunately Mozilla clears all old stuff from the cache when it reaches 50mb, meaning I don't think I'll have any remnant of the old thread.

looking very nice now

anyone worked out the floor/core heights?

Originally posted by invincible
derf, don't empty your cache, preferably don't do anything on your computer and notify Jan!!!

EDIT: Cached SSC files in my cache show an expiry daye of January 1, 2070. Unfortunately Mozilla clears all old stuff from the cache when it reaches 50mb, meaning I don't think I'll have any remnant of the old thread. I've already copied the recovered posts to a different location, so there's no chance of them disappearing. It sure would be great if we could get most of the thread back that way. Has anyone recently browsed through the latter half of the thread, and not emptied their cache since?

But I thought we were still waiting for word on the official backup. Do we actually know for sure yet whether a real backup even exists?

Floor Height: 56.3m @ Level 19 (though top of scaffolding is higher)

Exposed Core Height: 124.5m @ Top Level 39 (cul - top of Lvl 39 = Plan height of lvl 40 floor)

Core Box Height: 131m (approx) (2 foors + Xtra Box Height - RL)

So the top of the box is pretty much exactly level with IBM !! Next rise and it will be outright 2nd tallest on Southbank !

MG2: The floorplate schedule hasn't changed (but is moving fast now!), but I think all the glass that is now sprouting has suddenly made a big impact ..

tays: Ha Yeah.. went from 0C @ Hotham to 40C at Texas and back to 0C again at Buller hopefully this weekend! I feel like Corningware oven pans ..

Originally posted by derf
I've already copied the recovered posts to a different location, so there's no chance of them disappearing. It sure would be great if we could get most of the thread back that way. Has anyone recently browsed through the latter half of the thread, and not emptied their cache since?

But I thought we were still waiting for word on the official backup. Do we actually know for sure yet whether a real backup even exists?

There is a month old backup, but apparantly you either restore the whole backup or nothing at all, you can't take out a specific thread. Restoring a backup means that ALL posts this month are gone, which is worse.

The only other way to get it back is if Jan, or someone with the backup, goes to a temp web server and opens a new forum there, restore the backup on that forum, and somehow transfer the thread back over to here. We'll lose everything from this month, but it's better than losing the lot.

I wish I set my cache to something like 100MB. But I haven't closed my browser window since the hack either.

Anyway, two more rises and the top of the corebox will be at the halfway mark.

The core box is now level with IBM's roof.

I went up IBM again yesterday and did'nt have to look down at the core box. The next time we all meet (Friday 19/9) it will have risen once or maybe twice again.

Great shots of "E" to be had from OPTUS too. The 19th should be a good meet for pics.

Originally posted by A-brain
Floor Height: 56.3m @ Level 19 (though top of scaffolding is higher)

Exposed Core Height: 124.5m @ Top Level 39 (cul - top of Lvl 39 = Plan height of lvl 40 floor)

Core Box Height: 131m (approx) (2 foors + Xtra Box Height - RL)

So the top of the box is pretty much exactly level with IBM !! Next rise and it will be outright 2nd tallest on Southbank !

MG2: The floorplate schedule hasn't changed (but is moving fast now!), but I think all the glass that is now sprouting has suddenly made a big impact ..

tays: Ha Yeah.. went from 0C @ Hotham to 40C at Texas and back to 0C again at Buller hopefully this weekend! I feel like Corningware oven pans ..
abrain- the RL next to floor level on the plan is its slab height. so as you said level 39 is slab level of lev40 which is 127.25m, not the lower height of 124.5m (thats floor of lev39).from plans i sent you, the fugure next to floor height is the floor slab not ceiling height)-hope i havent confused you"?
grollo has told me that the core box is equal to 9m high. so Rl127m + 9m = RL136.2m or 133.5m above ground.
anyway its looking huge!!!

Cul: You're right and I'm right !

My figure of 124.5m for Level 39 is above ground! .. taking into account the slab height of Lvl 40 (127.25m) less the RL of Ground Level (2.72m) = 124.53m

As for top of core box I assumed very closely the height of the box but miscalculated anyway.. so your probably right with 133.5m above ground! My only ? to that is are they including the lower overhang in the 9m figure? If so then it would be more like 133m (less 0.5m)

Anyway I think we're getting slightly knuckled down in the details! It's getting bloody big at any rate..

Originally posted by A-brain
Cul: You're right and I'm right !

My figure of 124.5m for Level 39 is above ground! .. taking into account the slab height of Lvl 40 (127.25m) less the RL of Ground Level (2.72m) = 124.53m

As for top of core box I assumed very closely the height of the box but miscalculated anyway.. so your probably right with 133.5m above ground! My only ? to that is are they including the lower overhang in the 9m figure? If so then it would be more like 133m (less 0.5m)

Anyway I think we're getting slightly knuckled down in the details! It's getting bloody big at any rate..
lol, i dont mind getting knuckled down!:D its all good.
yeah Eureka is mushrooming before i very eyes! its a great time to be into tall buildings if you live in Australia, let alone Melbourne!!
have you guys got good zoom digi cams for when it hits the 80's?? lol i know Wt was getting hard to read near its top.
cheers

Cul,

We won't need them as much as you think. IBM, only 70m away is 131m to roof and I can get the guys up there at any time for some close up pics (next time being 19/9).

A good camera is always handy of course and will provide for better / more clearer shots, especially when "E" gets to level 80 and higher.

We have a peice of kit at work that may put the height issue beyond all doubt. It is called Leica (Company name) VECTOR IV. It measures to within +/- 0.3 of a metre over 2000 m. Great bit of kit and it also factors in angle of sight relative to your vertical altitude. It can acurately calculate the height of something in metres, feet, (which ever way that you like it) relative to it's base by pushing a couple of buttons. Great bit of kit. I'll make enquiries and see if I can lay my wanking spanners on one for the Melbourne meet.

Wanking Spanners ! LOL

300m of glass that looks like that - quality!

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/483eureka_20030901_1.jpg

and tays, i forgot to call

omg that glass is magic! Its looking very silver in that pic.

This tower is going to unique in the world. Im glad its got horizontal elements in the facade (the white stripes), its going to make this tower look a whole lot taller.

oooooh very shiny!

when you have 91 floors you really should show them off with some nice horizontal elements :-)

Back from O/S on Friday I was expecting to see a floor rise to expose Floor # 20 - by my loose accounts and estimations from afar this was where we shoulda been at.

But there was no rise!!

Starting to wonder if things had slipped.. I then realised today that both sides already had Level 20 exposed !!!

What's more - today there was another rise to expose Level 21 !!

So I went back to my log to work out how they could have squeezed them in - and the only conclusion is that the floor rise cycle has shortened from

8 working days between rises down to 6 days !!!

This makes perfect sense because it brings it into line with the average core rise of 12-14 working days per double rise ..

So all is rosy and peachy in the world today..

maybe there speeding up due to me telling Grocon about our xmas bet!lol level64 here we come.:D

LOL ..

Sorry but while the floorplates are speeding up, the core rises are not..

By my calculation, assuming little or no rain days and factoring days off - we will see maybe 7 but probably 6 more core rises before the end of the year.

This means 12 or 14 more floors - or Level 51 or 53 exposed before the end of the year.

My tip is Level 51.

You heard it here first!

What happened? There were like 100 pages of this a few days ago. Now its all gone?

jt

Read my earlier posts Jayt

Gday Guys,

It was interesting to c that the workers on Eureka were working on monday this week. I thought that they were supposed to have every seond monday off???? I am pretty sure that they were due to have monday 1st september off.

CULWULLA OR TAYS MIGHT KNOW THIS:

What is the floor spacing between each level on Eureka Tower compared to World Tower? Is Eureka spaced out more each level , or is World Tower spaced out more?

cheers

Lozza

Originally posted by lozza
Gday Guys,

It was interesting to c that the workers on Eureka were working on monday this week. I thought that they were supposed to have every seond monday off???? I am pretty sure that they were due to have monday 1st september off.

CULWULLA OR TAYS MIGHT KNOW THIS:

What is the floor spacing between each level on Eureka Tower compared to World Tower? Is Eureka spaced out more each level , or is World Tower spaced out more?

cheers

Lozza


the floor to floor height for Eureka is 3.2m compared to World Towers 2.95m.
Eureka has huge floors (10ft 4in in old scale. I think grolo said Royal Domain towers will have 3.4m per floor!
It seems to be largest floor heights for modern units. In Brisbane a couple of there new highrise reduced there floor heights down to 2.85m to add more floors into developemnt.
As for old style apartments. The former tallest apartments in Australia (Kingsclere-1912) in Potts point has 9 storeys each 3.85m high! talk about luxury!

Royal Domain willl have floor to ceiling height of 2.9 metres, Thats higher than some buildings floor to floor heights!

Savoy Tower would have 3.5 metre floor to floor, if it ever gets built. Also office buildings converted into apartments often have a floor to floor of 4 metres+

Not to be pedantic but Eureka is 3.25m floor to floor according to the plans you sent me Cul ..

Levels 82 to 88 are 3.5m !! But of course these are for public amenities and common property ..

The carpark levels are 2.6m

What this means is that when Eureka is at Lvl 45-46 - ie. half the floor #, it *wont* be half height! It will really gain those final metres in the late run home to 297.3m ..

.. and people will be blown away at how it just 'keeps on growing'

Originally posted by A-brain
LOL ..

Sorry but while the floorplates are speeding up, the core rises are not..

By my calculation, assuming little or no rain days and factoring days off - we will see maybe 7 but probably 6 more core rises before the end of the year.

This means 12 or 14 more floors - or Level 51 or 53 exposed before the end of the year.

My tip is Level 51.

You heard it here first!

No I didnt.
I said about level 51 ages ago when Cul was estimating in the 60's. I hope we're both wrong, I hope its higher.

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Correct me if I'm wrong but should we be seeing the next double core rise next Wed/Thurs approx?

ive noticed people stand in awe at cnr george and liverpool peering up at the 70+ floors of WT. its an awesome sight! just watch fellow melburnians stare at Eureka when it reaches 90 floors! lol they will wonder when it will stop!

Originally posted by ciaobellaxo
Correct me if I'm wrong but should we be seeing the next double core rise next Wed/Thurs approx?

Fraid not..

10-12 working days after the last rise (29th Aug) makes the next POUR due around this Thurs-Sat (11th-13th)

Then 3 working days after that would make the earliest possible RISE on Monday 14th Sept

I had a quick chat to my "grocon" connection this morning and he said next "jump" will be next thursday! I asked him about schedule again, and he said the floor rises are currently every 5 days and the workers are getting accustomed to operations and hopt to refine down to every 4 days! Also he said level64 was still on schedule for xmas! i laughed and said your dreamin!
anyway i said how the darker glass with white striping wil look stunning and he agreed!

Eureka to get a roof top ride!!
you didnt hear it from me!lol but i was chatting to a Sydney Tower contact about Skywalk and he mentioned its early days , but they are designing a "bubble" ride for Eureka's roof top which will move around the perimeter and "overhang" the gold blades for a rather unique experience!lol
He said it will be a perminent structure which will take up a large part of the roof and extend its height by 3m to 300m!!!
wow, very las vegas!
It wont be for a few years yet!

The Skywalk management got the Skywalk height wrong again in todays paper so i said if you want more accurate data talk to me.llol
They want me to draw up a scale diagram of Australia's tallest buildings ect. also provide heights of city landmarks for visitors at Skywalk.

How the hell could it get to level 64 By Christmas ? hehehe ???

The guy is dreaming and is a Dooby !! :dooby:

I just hope they double the amount of construction workers between now and Xmas !! :rock:

cheers :cheers:

lozza :fiddle:

Originally posted by CULWULLA
Eureka to get a roof top ride!!
you didnt hear it from me!lol but i was chatting to a Sydney Tower contact about Skywalk and he mentioned its early days , but they are designing a "bubble" ride for Eureka's roof top which will move around the perimeter and "overhang" the gold blades for a rather unique experience!lol
He said it will be a perminent structure which will take up a large part of the roof and extend its height by 3m to 300m!!!
wow, very las vegas!
It wont be for a few years yet!

The Skywalk management got the Skywalk height wrong again in todays paper so i said if you want more accurate data talk to me.llol
They want me to draw up a scale diagram of Australia's tallest buildings ect. also provide heights of city landmarks for visitors at Skywalk.

Looks Interesting, will it be in place for the towers opening in mid 2005???...btw. 300.3m just sounds way better than 297.3...lol

Cheers

Dean - Melbourne

Originally posted by Dean
Looks Interesting, will it be in place for the towers opening in mid 2005???...btw. 300.3m just sounds way better than 297.3...lol

Cheers

Dean - Melbourne

Perhaps it will be similar to the ride they are installing on top of the stratosphere in Vegas:

http://www.projectxsky.com/

Originally posted by CULWULLA
Eureka to get a roof top ride!!
you didnt hear it from me!lol but i was chatting to a Sydney Tower contact about Skywalk and he mentioned its early days , but they are designing a "bubble" ride for Eureka's roof top which will move around the perimeter and "overhang" the gold blades for a rather unique experience!lol
He said it will be a perminent structure which will take up a large part of the roof and extend its height by 3m to 300m!!!
wow, very las vegas!
It wont be for a few years yet!

The Skywalk management got the Skywalk height wrong again in todays paper so i said if you want more accurate data talk to me.llol
They want me to draw up a scale diagram of Australia's tallest buildings ect. also provide heights of city landmarks for visitors at Skywalk.

Hey hang on a minute... my calender says Sept 5th .. umm Cul is yours set to 1/4/2003 ???

In other words.. you can't possibly be serious! .. this is boo-haa .. They wouldn't possibly dream of a roof ride that would hang over the gold edges.. ruining the lines of the tower..

On the middle roof section between the gold shards - **maybe** - but it wouldn't increase the height of the tower and I reckon is still hooey..

Originally posted by CULWULLA
Eureka to get a roof top ride!!
you didnt hear it from me!lol but i was chatting to a Sydney Tower contact about Skywalk and he mentioned its early days , but they are designing a "bubble" ride for Eureka's roof top which will move around the perimeter and "overhang" the gold blades for a rather unique experience!lol
He said it will be a perminent structure which will take up a large part of the roof and extend its height by 3m to 300m!!!
wow, very las vegas!
It wont be for a few years yet!

The Skywalk management got the Skywalk height wrong again in todays paper so i said if you want more accurate data talk to me.llol
They want me to draw up a scale diagram of Australia's tallest buildings ect. also provide heights of city landmarks for visitors at Skywalk.

That's an excellent idea, I don't think that it would effect the look of the tower as at 300 metres above the ground it would hardly be visable. Also since it is still U/C they could get FK to incorporate it into the design so it won't look tacked on. For a relatively minimal expense I think they would make a fortune out of this, it would be hugely popular and would bring even more business to the observation deck/restaurant/nightclub.

I thought Eureka would be perfect for some kind of roof top walk as it is just a flat expanse of roof on top of each of the blades. This would be even better but would it go around just one of the roof tops or both? Imagine going BETWEEN the gold blades suspended in a glass bubble, that would be an awesome experience.

Im afraid its true abrain! no its not april 1! lol but sounds like it.
as grollo said, NFK will definatley make sure it fits in well. im sure it will be"put away" at night. but It will be a permanant structure which will look like a mini LMR.Through the day time it will climb around the perimetre giving visitors a "thrill" ride indeed!
but its only early stage and we will have to see over next few years!

Originally posted by CULWULLA
maybe there speeding up due to me telling Grocon about our xmas bet!lol level64 here we come.:D

If they construct any faster, it might be noone who is right about the xmas bet... :D

Still trying for that keen bit of kit. It will be worth the effort because it will put much of the debate beyond any doubt about exactly how high this thing will be.

For the record, I stand by my earlier (everybody said that I was underrating it) commitment from this year that the ET will be 53 Core Floors and 25 Levels on New Years Eve:)

I'm attending a Computer Aided Design ( CAD ) conference at the moment hosted by the people who supply Fender Katsilidas with their CAD software. To promote the conference they have produced 8 foot high banners each with a 4 foot long render of World Tower in Sydney on them and the building looks absolutely awesome!

Tomorrow there will be a presentation on Eureka tower ( can't wait!) and I'm trying to get hold of a CD that contains a presentation done by David Sutherland ( the guy who designed Eureka). Aparently it contains some great stuff about the building, if I get my hands on one I'll see if I can post some of the material on here....no promises though!

I was speaking to an Australian architect who has flown out to the UK just to attend this conference. He has met with David Sutherland on several occasions and he told me some interesting info about Eureka. Apparently David made the first sketch of the building on the back of a napkin in a restaurant....sounds cheesy but its true. They then spent a lot of time getting to know the site and did quite a lot of massing studies to come up with a building that would relate to the surrounding buildings which explains the various setbacks on Eureka to some degree.

If you thought the 3D model I did for Eureka was good then I am in awe of what NFK did for their own working model. It contains absolutely everything inside the building including the pipes for the plumbing and all the others services, the file size for the building is approaching 300 megabytes!!

Adam, I agree with you. Many months back I said that my estimate of the core height a xmas time would be at L54. Many others were saying in the mid 60's.

I can also recall that A-brain's estimate was somewhere close to mine and yours. I guess we will see in about 3 and a half months.

Bloody stupid question, but I have to ask it, especially after seeing WT construction photo's so many times. What stops those big yellow bins from falling out?! :O :D

Originally posted by yob
Bloody stupid question, but I have to ask it, especially after seeing WT construction photo's so many times. What stops those big yellow bins from falling out?! :O :D

Actaully yob its an excellent question, one which I used to ponder for quite some time.. until I saw one being put in place ..

Basically, the yellow bins have two big 'arms' or handles that extend out at the inside end as far as the external length .. and it must be the weight of these arms that balances the bins in place.

Think of a wheelbarrow kind of shape and you get the picture..

Oh and as for how many floors - If they keep up with the core then they'll be up to about Level 34-35 by years end ..

Originally posted by A-brain
Actaully yob its an excellent question, one which I used to ponder for quite some time.. until I saw one being put in place ..

Basically, the yellow bins have two big 'arms' or handles that extend out at the inside end as far as the external length .. and it must be the weight of these arms that balances the bins in place.

Think of a wheelbarrow kind of shape and you get the picture..

Oh and as for how many floors - If they keep up with the core then they'll be up to about Level 34-35 by years end ..
i was told the floor system is going to come down to a 4 day cycle and slowly catch up to the core gap being 10-15floors instead of 20.. Grocon said theyre are concentrating more on floor system then the core.
cant wait to see the movie of the Eurekas construction! but thats another storey!;)

Originally posted by CULWULLA
i was told the floor system is going to come down to a 4 day cycle and slowly catch up to the core gap being 10-15floors instead of 20.. Grocon said theyre are concentrating more on floor system then the core.
cant wait to see the movie of the Eurekas construction! but thats another storey!;)

*booom tishh* lol cul you crack me up

Originally posted by CULWULLA
i was told the floor system is going to come down to a 4 day cycle and slowly catch up to the core gap being 10-15floors instead of 20.. Grocon said theyre are concentrating more on floor system then the core.
cant wait to see the movie of the Eurekas construction! but thats another storey!;)

Well if the floors are about where the core is now at the end of the year, I wouldn't mind having the core slow a bit and let the floors catch up. More bulk for Southbank's skyline.

Originally posted by CULWULLA
Eureka to get a roof top ride!!
you didnt hear it from me!lol but i was chatting to a Sydney Tower contact about Skywalk and he mentioned its early days , but they are designing a "bubble" ride for Eureka's roof top which will move around the perimeter and "overhang" the gold blades for a rather unique experience!lol
He said it will be a perminent structure which will take up a large part of the roof and extend its height by 3m to 300m!!!
wow, very las vegas!
It wont be for a few years yet!

The Skywalk management got the Skywalk height wrong again in todays paper so i said if you want more accurate data talk to me.llol
They want me to draw up a scale diagram of Australia's tallest buildings ect. also provide heights of city landmarks for visitors at Skywalk.
Cul, that's gotta be one of the biggest scoops yet!!! CAN WE LEAK IT TO THE PRESS??? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE???
Amazing news - hope it's correct! I want to know how many built/UC buildings there are (excluding telecomms towers) above Eureka's height in the world...I saw on the world forum there was another tower UC at 300m in a Chinese city I never even heard of...just how tall will Eureka be compared to the big boys around the world? A list would help, please. Just remind me again. Please? :D

so if the tower's height is now 300.3m, would they need to apply for a permit for the extra height???

Love the idea of the ride though.

Cheers

Dean - Melbourne

as i said its reeeeeaaaallllyyyy early days and the architect firm is currently designing the "ride". so not sure about if it will happen or might be a few years away.But it definalty exceeds the 300m hieght limit by 3m so a special application to DOI will be needed.

Some images from the presentation on Eureka tower.

Apologies if people have seen them before.

http://download.graphisoft.com/ftp/eureka/normal/slides/1.jpg

http://download.graphisoft.com/ftp/eureka/normal/slides/9.jpg

http://download.graphisoft.com/ftp/eureka/normal/slides/10.jpg

http://download.graphisoft.com/ftp/eureka/normal/slides/12.jpg

300mb the file was you say ?

What I'd do to get my hands on THAT.

no, we haven't seen any of them (except the last one - it's seems familiar ?)

:rock: on larven :D

They can build the entire building from the amount of information within the one master file. If you look closely at the exploded views you can see just how much detail is contained in the model.

I know, I know!!! All the more reason to WANT the file mahuah :guns1:

Architects are lucky bastards - they get to play with ultra-freaking-cool hardware too :(

To be a Sys / Net admin for FK, DCM, ARM or Bates Smart would be a DREAM job for me!!

:)

For an in depth look at Eureka and many of the technical and design issues go to the link below for an online presentation by David Sutherland, the guy who designed Eureka.

http://download.graphisoft.com/ftp/eureka/normal/menu.htm

Great find larven!! A while ago Grollo (I think) posted a link to an article in an online CAD magazine but you only had thumbnail images without paying..

And the video presentations by that guy are cool too! Wish we could get in on that..

Yeah, great find Larven! Very interesting to look at all that info on Eureka's design, etc..
Cheers!:cheers:

Blabbyboy I hope this statisfies your need for a list of where Eureka Stands.

This is some information that I got from www.skyscrapers.com that lists the worlds tallest her is the top 30. As you can see Eureka would come in at about 28/29. Regardless it will be the Tallest Residential Tower in the World.
The data is collected and verified by the EDC and is updated continuously. It includes high-rise buildings which have been topped out. The ranking is based entirely on the buildings' structural height. TV towers, masts, and other building types are not included.

1. Petronas Tower 1 Kuala Lumpur 452 m 88 Floors 1998
2. Petronas Tower 2 - Kuala Lumpur 452 m 88 1998
3. Sears Tower - Chicago 442 m 108 1974
4. Jin Mao Tower - Shanghai 421 m 88 Floors 1998
5. Two International Finance Centre - Hong Kong 415 m 88 Floors 2003
6. CITIC Plaza - Guangzhou 391 m 80 Floors 1997
7. Shun Hing Square - Shenzhen 384 m 69 Floors 1996
8. Empire State Building - New York City 381 m 102 Floors 1931
9. Central Plaza - Hong Kong 374 m 78 Floors 1992
10. Bank of China Tower - Hong Kong 367 m 72 Floors 1990
11. Emirates Office Tower - Dubai 355 m 54 Floors 2000
12. Tuntex Sky Tower - Kaohsiung 348 m 85 Floors 1997
13. Aon Center Chicago 346 m 83 Floors 1973
14. The Center Hong Kong 346 m 73 Floors 1998
15. John Hancock Center - Chicago 344 m 100 Floors 1969
16. Ryugyong Hotel Pyongyang 330 m 105 Floors 1992
17. Burj Al Arab Dubai 321 m 60 Floors 1999
18. Chrysler Building - New York City 319 m 77 Floors 1930
19. Bank of America Plaza - Atlanta 312 m 55 Floors 1992
20. US Bank Tower Los Angeles 310 m 73 Floors 1990
21. Menara Telekom - Kuala Lumpur 310 m 55 Floors 2001
22. Emirates Hotel Tower - Dubai 309 m 56 Floors 2000
23. AT&T Corporate Center Chicago 307 m 60 Floors 1989
24. JPMorganChase Tower - Houston 305 m 75 Floors 1982
25. Baiyoke Tower II Bangkok 304 m 85 Floors 1997
26. Two Prudential Plaza - Chicago 303 m 64 Floors 1990
27. Kingdom Centre - Riyadh 302 m 41 FLoors 2002
28. First Canadian Place - Toronto 298 m 72 Floors 1975
29. Yokohama Landmark Tower - Yokohama 296 m 70 Floors 1993
30. Wells Fargo Plaza - Houston 296 m 71 Floors 1983

Taipei 101 is already higher then petronas so you can another one in that list! Its 60m spire is half built so its currently 478m.
There are a few more that are UC which will be completed by 2005 which include-.

Taipei 101 -Taipei/Taiwan 508 m/ 101st
Wuhan International Securities/Wuhan/China 354 m/ 80 st
Shimao International Plaza/ Shanghai/China - 333 m/60st
China World Trade Centre/ Beijing/China - 330 m/ 80st
Q1 /Coast CityAustralia -322 m/ 78st
Nina Tower /Hong Kong-China/ 319 m/ 80st
Northeast International- Shenyang/China - 300 m/ 84st
Eureka/Melbourne/Australia-297m/91st

So in 2005 Eureka will come it at number-36.

The list only counted structural height not spires or antennas or any other window dressing that may thrown on top to make things look pretty. Other wise I think the Empire state building would be fairly high on the list. As high as 5 I think.
Anyway i digress.
Does anyone know where to find a complete list of buildings under construction right now, that will only indicate structual height. If so that would be intersting to see.

I really hate it when they count the spires and crap as part of the building height. It would be like syaing Marge Simpson is really seven foot tall. Maybe I am just reacting to the many people I have met that have severe small man syndrome. there I go digressing again. Oh No I am also talking to myself again. Shit.

I agree. Building height, should be taken from the roof level. Not from fancy antennas or poles.

Originally posted by Windstorm
The list only counted structural height not spires or antennas or any other window dressing that may thrown on top to make things look pretty. Other wise I think the Empire state building would be fairly high on the list. As high as 5 I think.
Anyway i digress.
Does anyone know where to find a complete list of buildings under construction right now, that will only indicate structual height. If so that would be intersting to see.

I really hate it when they count the spires and crap as part of the building height. It would be like syaing Marge Simpson is really seven foot tall. Maybe I am just reacting to the many people I have met that have severe small man syndrome. there I go digressing again. Oh No I am also talking to myself again. Shit.
Some structural heights include spires!!! You cant just take spires off bldgs. its part of there intricate deisgn! Where do you snap Chrysler Buildings spire at?
Your after roof heights!
there are many "catorgories" now!
height to spire
height to roof
height to top floor
height to antenna
ect.ect
Skyscrapers.com have buildings listed as official heights which sometimes include spires/architetcural features.
i could post a list to roof but might take some time!

Originally posted by Windstorm
The list only counted structural height not spires or antennas or any other window dressing that may thrown on top to make things look pretty. Other wise I think the Empire state building would be fairly high on the list. As high as 5 I think.
Anyway i digress.
Does anyone know where to find a complete list of buildings under construction right now, that will only indicate structual height. If so that would be intersting to see.

I really hate it when they count the spires and crap as part of the building height. It would be like syaing Marge Simpson is really seven foot tall. Maybe I am just reacting to the many people I have met that have severe small man syndrome. there I go digressing again. Oh No I am also talking to myself again. Shit.

If the list didnt include spires why is petronas at the top of the list? :) just a thought. BTW welcome!

for a VERY good reference on statistics for scrapers go to www.skyscraperpage.com they have diagrams, and you can bring up any combination of diagrams you want, including Under construction, Austalia, Planned, or even combinations of cities. Also, you can choose whether you want to count spire as official height, or roof or whatever. Check it out, its good!

heres the URL to all buildings UC as of today.
http://www.skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?3310941
Eureka is tall... for Australia- its a baby compared to those Asian scrapers UC. I mean that Shanghai Financial Centre is 492m to ROOF! unbelievable..

Originally posted by SydneyDude
If the list didnt include spires why is petronas at the top of the list? :) just a thought. BTW welcome!

for a VERY good reference on statistics for scrapers go to www.skyscraperpage.com they have diagrams, and you can bring up any combination of diagrams you want, including Under construction, Austalia, Planned, or even combinations of cities. Also, you can choose whether you want to count spire as official height, or roof or whatever. Check it out, its good!

heres the URL to all buildings UC as of today.
http://www.skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?3310941
Eureka is tall... for Australia- its a baby compared to those Asian scrapers UC. I mean that Shanghai Financial Centre is 492m to ROOF! unbelievable..
yeah but its not a baby compared to Asian residential towers!! its NUMERO UNO!!
office towers are totally different structures! cant compare the two. Residential towers have to support life! humans occupy its interior 24-7.lol They have to be thinner then office structures to allow light to interior ect.. It will be a long time before a 300m "pure" residential tower is erected!
Q1 and Eureka are special indeed!

Originally posted by CULWULLA
yeah but its not a baby compared to Asian residential towers!! its NUMERO UNO!!

Yep I know! I am actually very very excited about about Eureka. The truth is, it is going to be, without a doubt, Australias premier skyscaper on completion. I simply cannot wait until the day I can take the elevator up to level 88 (??) and see Melbourne from nearly 300m up. And the ride sounds kick ass too. As it is 50m higher than Rialto, and with that golden summit at the top, It is going to give melbourne that 'crown' or focal point which it has been lacking. It will be sort of reminiscent of Sydney- the golden crown and all. :)

But the way I see it, 300m is HHUUGGEE. To think they are building a 492m building in Shanghai is quite blatantly for me, beyond belief. I mean 492m!! :bash:
Cheers

12 days since the last core rise, hopefully we will see the next one before Friday.

Let me do a mass reply:

Firstly, thanks Windstorm & Cul for the lists. Sad to see that Eureka will only be in the top 40. As always, I continue to say that buildings heights should only be to roof!!! And I'm sure Eureka will go up quite a few spots if we are only taking height to roof/highest occupiable floor! And Petronas is actually ONE building according to CBTUH because it's connected by skybridge and Suria KLCC megapodium.

And Cul's point (pardon the pun) about different categories of buildings is not only valid, it's a very important point - it'll be the highest resi in the world (sorry, Q1, but at least you're still right up there)! Finally, another good point to note is that no one city has a monopoly on the list...ie most cities would only have 4-5 out of that list, even HK, NY, Shanghai, KL, etc.

So, as we've said before, if Eureka were built in another city, it would be pretty high on the list (height to roof), eg second in NY after ESB, fourth or fifth in HK and probably also Shanghai, probably third or fourth in KL, second in Toronto/Taipei/Jakarta?/Bangkok?, tallest in Singapore/Sydney/Tokyo/Seoul/Paris/any other Canadian/Aust city & many other cities!

Can anybody give accurate ranking (height to roof)if Eureka were built in those and other world cities:

eg LA, SF, Seattle, Atlanta, Chicago, Seoul, Tokyo, Frankfurt, London, Jakarta, Manila, Bangkok, Guangzhou, etc.

Originally posted by Grollo
12 days since the last core rise, hopefully we will see the next one before Friday.
grocon told me this thursday!http://www.skyscrapercity.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

EUREKA COMES IN AT NO 24 IN 2005!!!

WORLDS TALLEST TO ROOF-2005

Taipei 101 -448m
Sears Tower -442m
Two International Financial cent-415m
Empire State Building -381m
Petronas Tower 1 -378m
Petronas Tower 2 -378m
Jin Mao Tower -370m
Tuntex Sky Tower -348m
Aon Center -346m
John Hancock Center -344m
CITIC Plaza -330m
Shun Hing Square -325m
Nina Tower I -319 m
Emirates Office Tower-311m
US Bank Tower-310 m
Menara Telekom - 310 m
Central Plaza -309m
Bank of China Tower -305m
JPMorganChase Tower -305 m
Baiyoke Tower II -304 m
Kingdom Centre - 302 m
The Center -302m
First Canadian Place -298 m
Eureka Tower -297m

Originally posted by CULWULLA
grocon told me this thursday!http://www.skyscrapercity.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

EUREKA COMES IN AT NO 24 IN 2005!!!

WORLDS TALLEST TO ROOF-2005

Taipei 101 -448m
Sears Tower -442m
Two International Financial cent-415m
Empire State Building -381m
Petronas Tower 1 -378m
Petronas Tower 2 -378m
Jin Mao Tower -370m
Tuntex Sky Tower -348m
Aon Center -346m
John Hancock Center -344m
CITIC Plaza -330m
Shun Hing Square -325m
Nina Tower I -319 m
Emirates Office Tower-311m
US Bank Tower-310 m
Menara Telekom - 310 m
Central Plaza -309m
Bank of China Tower -305m
JPMorganChase Tower -305 m
Baiyoke Tower II -304 m
Kingdom Centre - 302 m
The Center -302m
First Canadian Place -298 m
Eureka Tower -297m
ive left out the 330m/105st pyong yang hotel as its on hold but still its full height, so i quess it makes Eureka 25th tallest in 2005.

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2001/12/135977.jpg


:)

Originally posted by CULWULLA
grocon told me this thursday!http://www.skyscrapercity.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

EUREKA COMES IN AT NO 24 IN 2005!!!

WORLDS TALLEST TO ROOF-2005

Taipei 101 -448m
Sears Tower -442m
Two International Financial cent-415m
Empire State Building -381m
Petronas Tower 1 -378m
Petronas Tower 2 -378m
Jin Mao Tower -370m
Tuntex Sky Tower -348m
Aon Center -346m
John Hancock Center -344m
CITIC Plaza -330m
Shun Hing Square -325m
Nina Tower I -319 m
Emirates Office Tower-311m
US Bank Tower-310 m
Menara Telekom - 310 m
Central Plaza -309m
Bank of China Tower -305m
JPMorganChase Tower -305 m
Baiyoke Tower II -304 m
Kingdom Centre - 302 m
The Center -302m
First Canadian Place -298 m
Eureka Tower -297m

THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR!!! Sure, that Pyongyang hotel may be on the list, but if you condense Petronas 1 & 2 into one building, then Eureka is still #25!!!:master:

Originally posted by Blabbyboy

Can anybody give accurate ranking (height to roof)if Eureka were built in those and other world cities:

eg LA, SF, Seattle, Atlanta, Chicago, Seoul, Tokyo, Frankfurt, London, Jakarta, Manila, Bangkok, Guangzhou, etc.

Got nothing better to do lol- here we go:

Working with the 297.3 roof height (not including the ride as that is not filalised, EUREKA would be:

-Second tallest in Los Angeles, only the US Bank tower would be 13m higher. at 310.3m

-Tallest in San Francisco, 37.3m taller than the 260m Transamerica Pyramid.

-Tallest in Atlanta, 12.9m taller than the 284.4m Bank of America plaza. However the spire reaches 311.8m

-Tallest in Seoul, 37.1m taller than Tower Palace 3. However Lotte World Tower which is UC in Busan South Korea will eat Eureka for breakfast at 464.5m!!

-4th tallest to roof in Chicago (442 roof, 527.3 antenna), with Sears (343.5 roof, 457.2 antenna), John Hancock and Aon (346.3) all taller.

-Tallest in Japan, 2.1m taller than Landmark Tower!

-Tallest in Europe, taller than Germanies Commerzbank!

pretty impressive stats!

Eureka would also be the tallest building in south america.
And the tallest in Africa.
Not to mention The tallest in antarctica, newzealand and greenland!

And if we chucked it on mars, I think it would probably be the tallest building there as well.

YR COMMENTS:

And if we chucked it on mars, I think it would probably be the tallest building there as well.

What about MT. Olympus !!! i hear that mountain on Mars is over 12,000 metres ! SHIT ! :omg:

cheers :dooby:

lozza

Would also be 2nd tallest in New York to the roof - since no WTC - now *that* is an impressive stat !!

Btw.. East Floor rise today to Level 22, only 6 working days after the previous so the new 6 day floor cycle appears to be continuing!!

Quite likely to be a core pour tomorrow (Thursday) as well ..

But a tall building is really only tall relative to the city that it is placed in. After all, in a smaller city that is flanked by cliffs (like Adelaide), the Grenfell centre doesn't look smallish.

Even Brisbane doesn't yet have a super tall building, but what it has looks pretty impressive relative to the rest of it's skyline.

ET will never make world headlines either, but it is likely to hold the mantle of the tallest occupiable building in the country for at least five years, until Daniel Grollo gets itchy feet again and pines for a bigger erection, or maybe his missus might inspire him. She might demand (in the course of events) that he produces something bigger.:D

After all tall buildings are really about a 'Mine's bigger than your's syndrome'. I have a theory about men who have a complex about size, that they should just marry a short woman.:D

One of the funniest things that I ever heard on the radio came out of the mouth of Doctor Anne Feelgood on the old Martin and Malloy show. A female caller asked her what was the average size of the erect male penis? Mick Malloy interjected and emphatically announced "Three inches!" pause "And if your man can produce anything bigger than that then get down on your hands and knees now woman and thank GOD":cheers:

when the core rises to lev41 this week, this will be apprx RL134m or 131m above ground equallying the nearby IBM Tower.the core box itself will be 140m above grd.
not far to go now to half way up.

Well it really doesn't matter if ET is in the top 30 or 40.

Frankly its just going to look so distinctive, so tall and be so accessible as a residential tower, as to completely dominate Southbank and Melbourne.

It'll get the "tallest" tag no problem.

When that special top 30 towers in the world diagram in the observation deck foyer gets viewed by the millions of tourists a year, it'll make things quite clear to people about "that" tower in Qld.

I see Culwulla's point about Chrysler, but seriously no one is going to admit that Chrysler vs Eureka is even a contest.

Antennas are parts of buildings yes, but most of them do not in my opinion have anywhere near enough presence in the sky to justify them as more substantive structures than their talller rooftop cousins.

I personally see 2IFC in HK taller than Petronas, it even looks taller.

Cheers.

i thought there was definitely going to b a core rise today???:rant:

It looked like that there was the concrete putomizer in the core pouring concrete in it which is not good news :wtf:

maybe the rise will be on the weekend ???

Anyone know whats going on ?? :rant:

lozza :dooby:

lozz all is normal..

I said a few posts back there would be a core pour today.. and there was.

This is 10 working days after the last rise - which is right on schedule and actually a bit quicker than in the earlier days ..

The Grocon guy said to cul there would be a core rise today - obviously he can't distinguish between a pour and a rise..

Watch for the rise on Fri/Sat ..

Thanks A-Brain ! :dooby:

yeah, i thought the guy was off the mark when i saw the core pour today instead of the rise. :rant:

looking 4ward to the rise on the weekend !

cheers

lozza :dooby:

Terrible photo but you get the idea!

http://melbournephotos.gotdns.com/pics/2003-09-11%20Melbourne%20-%20Swanston%20st,%20Collins%20st%20and%20101%20/IMG_2711.JPG

thats ok pic dan! i get idea! lol. go back to this office next year and should be a really good view!

Looking back up Swan Street from near channel nine

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~anfield/eureka.jpg

Grow my precious grow WHOAHAHAHA; Exxxcellent. BTW cool pics everyone.

FCDB

very nice pic Falchoon!

we have yet another photographer........... wee ;)

Another question!

Are we likely see a delay in the floors going up [soon] due for the need to start placing plant equipment on top of the part of the core on the East side ?

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/fwpeureka0909031.jpg

That's what usually happens isn't it ? they put the plant equipment in before building higher ? or am I on the wrong track ?

Another awesome day in Melbourne weather wise ;)

But still no core rise!! Should be happening any day now?

ya wats goin on. does anyone know when the last core rise was?

Originally posted by Lil' Flip
ya wats goin on. does anyone know when the last core rise was?
as abrian says, it was due yesterday but sometimes they could be delayed for many dif reasons.the floors have been poured on wednseday so thisweekend or monday probably?

Yeah when I said "Saturday" I actually forgot which day I was in !!

So Monday will be the day. That will be 3 working days from the pour which is about normal ..

As for tays question about the plant - that's an excellent question! I very much doubt it will slow them down .. but then when they get to that level they will have to reconfig the East side floor scaffolding anyway, so maybe that will be the time to do it ..

At least a 'core rise' is due before next Friday (19/9). We all meet then and some good pics will be had from OPTUS and IBM for all to see.

Correct me if I am wrong but the next rise will expose 41 with 42/43 in the box?

A-Brain / Cul, what height will it be then?

Originally posted by Richo
At least a 'core rise' is due before next Friday (19/9). We all meet then and some good pics will be had from OPTUS and IBM for all to see.

Correct me if I am wrong but the next rise will expose 41 with 42/43 in the box?

A-Brain / Cul, what height will it be then?
i thnk we worked out corebox is equal to 9m so with 44 in box it will be approx RL142m or 140m above ground! so it will be still 3 floors from half way mark!
It will surpass IBM by 5m so now its just got Crown to eclipse to be king of southbank!

Cheers Cul.

I suspect there was a rise this morn.

Bout time too.

:)

Gday

level 40 is now exposed under teh core box , but it seems to have stopped? :wtf: :rant:

it should be exposing 41 ?:?:?:?:?

interesting ey???

lozza:?

sometimes they rise the corebox in 2 or more stages. 41 will be exposed by the end of the day- theyre just teasin ya lozza! Im glad theres finally a core rise, about time ay!

Cheers

Originally posted by SydneyDude
Got nothing better to do lol- here we go:

Working with the 297.3 roof height (not including the ride as that is not filalised, EUREKA would be:

-Second tallest in Los Angeles, only the US Bank tower would be 13m higher. at 310.3m

-Tallest in San Francisco, 37.3m taller than the 260m Transamerica Pyramid.

-Tallest in Atlanta, 12.9m taller than the 284.4m Bank of America plaza. However the spire reaches 311.8m

-Tallest in Seoul, 37.1m taller than Tower Palace 3. However Lotte World Tower which is UC in Busan South Korea will eat Eureka for breakfast at 464.5m!!

-4th tallest to roof in Chicago (442 roof, 527.3 antenna), with Sears (343.5 roof, 457.2 antenna), John Hancock and Aon (346.3) all taller.

-Tallest in Japan, 2.1m taller than Landmark Tower!

-Tallest in Europe, taller than Germanies Commerzbank!

pretty impressive stats!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH~!!!! WILL YOU ALL LOOK AT THOSE STATS!!! WOOO HOOOO!!!!!!!! :dooby: ET ROCKS!!!:bash:

Originally posted by lozza
Gday

level 40 is now exposed under teh core box , but it seems to have stopped? :wtf: :rant:

it should be exposing 41 ?:?:?:?:?

interesting ey???

lozza:?

Scotty: She's exposed to the core! Captain, she canna take much more of this! She's gonna blow, laddy...

Kirk: Scotty, get a grip on yourself!

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Btw, I think we can all see from Tay's last photo that EUREKA's glass, when seen from a distance, will be more black than blue...so EUREKA WILL BE A BLACK BEAUTY!!!

Originally posted by lozza
Gday

level 40 is now exposed under teh core box , but it seems to have stopped? :wtf: :rant:

it should be exposing 41 ?:?:?:?:?

interesting ey???

lozza:?
yeah sometimes the core "lift" could take an afternoon. I watched world towers last year and the two floor rise took a total of 5 hrs. But got there eventually!
lol thats good news!

41 is now exposed. Just before the rain started.

When I was at Flinders Street this morning I noticed 40 exposed. Great to hear about 41 now being exposed.


James.

Originally posted by Philip Burt
41 is now exposed. Just before the rain started.

Bring on the pics. Its a beautiful day here in Sydney :cool: Winter is truly over

Yes indeedy, the Big E core nears the halfway point and becomes visible from far and wider. Together with FWP and the unfortunate CE backwash, the crane forest of southgate turns the heads of the uninitiated train-dwellers with ease. Superb!

Bluestar :cool:

Do you mean Southbank Bluestar?

;)

E's also clearly visible from Toorak Station as well now.

I can now make out the core and crane from Camberwell. It's sitting about as high as Herald Sun tower.

ive worked out the tip of crane is approx 55m above corebox, thus 195m above grd. Imagine when its 300m above ground with the tip of crane at approx 50m above roof= 350m!!!! wow That 100m higher than Rialto!

Originally posted by SydneyDude
Bring on the pics. Its a beautiful day here in Sydney :cool: Winter is truly over

Who cars we NEED the rain more than sun at the moment.

Originally posted by Philip Burt
41 is now exposed. Just before the rain started.

Erm what time did you post PB coz when I drove past at 5:30pm on the way home it was still Level 40 only ..

Either way should be 41 exposed by tomorrow (Tuesday)

Originally posted by bearbrass
Who cars we NEED the rain more than sun at the moment.

True that. Sydney gets twice the rainfall we get. I don’t know why Melbourne has the stereotype of ‘the rainy city’. Sydney has the second most amount of rainfall per year. Melburnians enjoy the rain while it lasts…

Originally posted by A-brain
Erm what time did you post PB coz when I drove past at 5:30pm on the way home it was still Level 40 only ..

Either way should be 41 exposed by tomorrow (Tuesday)

Sorry about that A-brain. I must have been having premature orgasms about E rising to 41.

I was relying on the lss.com.au webcam and I used a ruler on my computer moniter to gauge the height relative to the church spire. It seemed to have risen but obviously I was wrong. Sorry about that. Glad to see that this forum has the equivalent to "Media Watch" happening. I won't be premature again!

Correct me if Im wrong, the top of the core box appears to be at about 135M or a few metres higher than the top most point of IBM.

This scientific method of measurement was carried out by grabbing a pair of Bushmaster binos, going upstairs to my living room and looking out the window and lining up the two blds with the roofline of a neighbour and voila! Dada.

I suppose the more accurate method is to check out the plans.:cool:

Through the rain today, I can see that there is now another crane on the Eureka site, on the northern end...or has that always been there...the core's been jacked up, right? It's going so slowly that...I can't tell when there's been a core rise!

Why is Eureka taking so long. While it is the biggest it seems to be taking the longest in Australia.

Originally posted by Steve World Tower
Why is Eureka taking so long. While it is the biggest it seems to be taking the longest in Australia.
Becos it's not going to get built, will it, Steveworldtower? :D

Originally posted by Blabbyboy
Becos it's not going to get built, will it, Steveworldtower? :D

Well you said it I didn't. All I was commenting on was the unusual pace at which it is being constructed.

Originally posted by Steve World Tower
Well you said it I didn't. All I was commenting on was the unusual pace at which it is being constructed.

Bullshit. You said it! Dickhead.

It will be finished in mid 2005 as predicted.

I understand that u think KENS wont go ahead either in Sydney when Westpac has signed to lease the whole thing and site clearing is underway.

Your the next winner of 'Dickhead of the Month'

Congratulations!

Cheers

Dean - Melbourne

Given your past posts its sorta hard to take you seriously, SWT. In any case I believe E is running at the same pace it has for months, although somewhat slower than some might've hope (or been told), and slow'n' steady wins the race!

Blue

SKIES: Yep I did mean SouthBANK, oops.

Blue

Originally posted by Blabbyboy
Through the rain today, I can see that there is now another crane on the Eureka site, on the northern end...or has that always been there...the core's been jacked up, right? It's going so slowly that...I can't tell when there's been a core rise!


There has always been 2 cranes blabs!?? There was a third back in the beginnin on the southern side, I think, they took that out!

The one on the northern side has been there always....it is just a little taller!

Or am I wrong and a third crane has apheard?

Originally posted by Steve World Tower
Why is Eureka taking so long. While it is the biggest it seems to be taking the longest in Australia.

Maybe because it's such a complex tower and will be:
The tallest skyscraper ever built in Australia by 47m!
The tallest residential skyscraper ever constructed.
One of only 5 buildings in the world with over 90 floors.

300m to roof is a serious skyscraper and takes a lot more engineering than your run of the mill 200m tower.

Although it doesn't look a whole lot different to my last 'City Rd Shot' when it was at 39, the scale is getting bigger and bigger !!!

http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/Eureka/DSC00540.jpg

Also was a West Floor rise today to bring both floors to Level 22 Exposed with the top of the scaffold at about Level 24 ..

Also by taking some measurement's on my drawing I put the current height to the top of the box at 139m give or take ..

So either way it's well above IBM tower by now!

gah.

50 more levels then the core will reach its full height....

41 + 50 = 91 :(

hopefully this time [or a little later?] next year.

and chyeah, start looking for a fish-eye lens a-brain! nice pic.

tays

Phuck,

That last photo, posted by A-brain really shows how big this bugger is going to be. I mean 50 more floors (another 160m on A-brains current prediction) above the current height and then add the bulk with all the floors and glass, it's going to be one huge mother, especially when you drive East down City Road.

I just can't wait.

P.S. Good pics to be had from IBM and OPTUS on Friday.

Holy mother of the Earth, shes looking huuuge!, and its not even half way yet!!
WOW:guns1: :omg: :rock:

Another one from today! Should have used the zoom eh? :)

http://pants.gotdns.org/scrapers/upload/E160903.JPG

wow thanks for dan! its growing before our eyes! the roof of crown casino is 142m so one more rise and its higher than that also (not inc LMR -152m). the pix should be great come friday!
cheers

Current construction photo + photoshop + 5 minutes =

http://www.mercury.net.au/j/030916-eureka.jpg

91 floors of core! Come on Grocon, get out them hairdryers and start pouring! I mean how long does it take you guys to put a 300m core up? It only took me 5 minutes! :)

OH MY GOD.
Eureka is not only going to be another skyscraper in Melbourne, it is going to change the _whole_ feel & look of this city. AMAZING.

lol!

very nice mgpenguin!

Presenting the worlds largest kebab stick!

http://pants.gotdns.org/scrapers/upload/030916-eureka%20kebab.jpg

Well done mgpenguin btw!
Sorry about that everyone! it was just too tempting.

lol with the kebab stick

There is still a fair chance the core will be way ahead of the floorplates!!! Don't end your hopes just yet.

hehehehehehehe ! lol ! :D

thats funny !

:omg: its going to be a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge beast when it tops out !

Rock On Eureka :rock:

lozza :D

Here's a flash movie made from all the Rialto shots I could find. :)

http://au.internations.net/derf/Eureka/fromrialto.html

(I'd have put it straight into the thread, but html's been disabled. http://www.skyscrapercity.com/images/smilies/angry.gif)

No.. That's impossible. It can not possibly be that tall. NOPE. I WON'T HAVE IT!! LUDISCROUSY!!! BLASPHEMY!!
:baaa:

Cullwulla,

when is exactly half way for Eureka?

Level 45 or 46?

Because the 10 or so top floors of Eureka ( the observation deck etc ) are more spaced out than the majority of the other floors , wouldn't it be a fair assessment to say that the half way point would be when the core reaches level 46???

cheers

lozza

Originally posted by lozza
Cullwulla,

when is exactly half way for Eureka?

Level 45 or 46?

Because the 10 or so top floors of Eureka ( the observation deck etc ) are more spaced out than the majority of the other floors , wouldn't it be a fair assessment to say that the half way point would be when the core reaches level 46???

cheers

lozza

Lozz your not half far from spot on!!

The exact half-way point (above ground) will be about 1/3 of the way up Level 47 - when it's exposed.

The maths goes like this (Since I know cul will ask!):

0.5 x 297.28 = 148.64m (Above Ground) or 151.36m (Above Sea Level)

From the plans, RL (Above Sea Level) of Lvl 47 slab is 150m - therefore the half-way point will be another 1.36m above that or 1/3 of the way up the floor with '47' stamped in the middle!

Originally posted by lozza
Cullwulla,

when is exactly half way for Eureka?

Level 45 or 46?

Because the 10 or so top floors of Eureka ( the observation deck etc ) are more spaced out than the majority of the other floors , wouldn't it be a fair assessment to say that the half way point would be when the core reaches level 46???

cheers

lozza
i havent got plans with me atm, but i think 45 is 150m high. but ill have to recheck. But tays asked me to see if that photoshopped core is 300m high and after measuring it would you beleive its pretty right! ifnot should be a tad higher!

More sicko Stats.

Heres an interesting pastime when youve got nothing else to do.
Yeh Right!, you say.

To get an idea of how big E will be, just print off a copy of the E profile drawing (Tayser supplied one in Jan?) and highlight the current physical status.

Shite. Its much bigger than I thought. Even though it is approaching half its height, it appears on the drawing to be about 3.65 times the volume of whats there at the momento.

Using the 1:1000 elevation drawing.
The current drawing surface area = 3350
The total area = 12,250
(Drawing Height x Width = Drawing Surface Area)

Its absolutely staggering when you compare the highlighted section with the rest of the completed drawing.

Have fun.

Gday Abrain & Cullwulla

So, u reckon that level 47 and a 1/3 is the half way point?

Is this taking into account the fact that the top 10 levels are spaced out more than the other levels?

this is a bit trival, but interesting none the less....

To Clarify myself, i am interested 2 know exactly what level on the tower is thepoint where it reaches the half way point in terms of metres, not levels

so i am interested to know "exactly what level exposed is around 149 metres above ground level, not sea level "

Just curious thats all.

Cheers

Lozza

Well, the number of floors is spot on in the core I did; noting that there are 50 floors to go, I got 10, duplicated them five times over and spliced them in, then I put in the level 64 setback. The core in my picture has level 89 exposed, 90/91 in the core. The last few floors are slightly taller than the rest, yes, but I'd be going to subpixel differences to change that and it'd either get blurry or be too fiddly, so, yeah, like I could be bothered :)

Once I get my new digital SLR I'll have enough detail to do some spot-on mockups, especially once we get some glass visible from wider areas.

Originally posted by lozza
Gday Abrain & Cullwulla

So, u reckon that level 47 and a 1/3 is the half way point?

Is this taking into account the fact that the top 10 levels are spaced out more than the other levels?

this is a bit trival, but interesting none the less....

To Clarify myself, i am interested 2 know exactly what level on the tower is thepoint where it reaches the half way point in terms of metres, not levels

so i am interested to know "exactly what level exposed is around 149 metres above ground level, not sea level "

Just curious thats all.

Cheers

Lozza
i can confirm loz, that the roof of level 47 or slab level of 48 will be 150.5m above grd level.So the exact half way mark (148.6m) will be half way up levl47! is that exact enough?lol
If the corebox is approx 2 1/2 levels high or 9m, this means that the top of core box at half way will be lev44 exposed, which is 2 rises away! or 1 month? we will have next 42/43 exposed then 44/45 so this is approx the time the core box wil be half way up!
hope thats not to confusing?
cheers guys!

Originally posted by mgpenguin
Well, the number of floors is spot on in the core I did; noting that there are 50 floors to go, I got 10, duplicated them five times over and spliced them in, then I put in the level 64 setback. The core in my picture has level 89 exposed, 90/91 in the core. The last few floors are slightly taller than the rest, yes, but I'd be going to subpixel differences to change that and it'd either get blurry or be too fiddly, so, yeah, like I could be bothered :)

Once I get my new digital SLR I'll have enough detail to do some spot-on mockups, especially once we get some glass visible from wider areas.

I look forward to your future images then. =):guns1:

Like I said .. 47 and something levels..

To be absolutely precise - the halfway height point (not floors) above ground is 41.8% of the way up the Level 47 exposed core.

There.

I'm sure tays will love all this over-analysing when instead we should be talking about the next core rise at Mondriane or something... :D

Its going to be friggen huge, thats all i can say ! its already sticking out like dogs balls now.

to think that its still another 6 floors till the half way point !! ( the expossd core )

Its Amazing actually ! rock on ! :rock:

cheers

lozza :dooby:

Originally posted by A-brain
Like I said .. 47 and something levels..

To be absolutely precise - the halfway height point (not floors) above ground is 41.8% of the way up the Level 47 exposed core.

There.

I'm sure tays will love all this over-analysing when instead we should be talking about the next core rise at Mondriane or something... :D
as i told loz, half way is half way up lv47! lol
;)
cant wait tonights pix from Optus house.

Here is the current situation ...

http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/Eureka/eureka-plan-Lvl41.jpg

The thick red-line line is what has been laid - the thin red line at the top of the floorplates is the scaffolding..

As noted by lozz and everyone - the building looks f'n huge already in real life but when you see how much more there is to go...

Ferken hell !!!

:eek2:

HOLY SHIT ! :omg:

THATS ALL THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID !!! :D :

Lozza :rock:

http://melbournephotos.gotdns.com/pics/2003-09-19%20Melbourne%20-%20Ozscraper%20meet,%20Optus%20house%20and%20IBM%20tower/eureka%20black%20S8x7.jpg

From the ozscraper meet with the plans over it! gonna be fucking big eh?


edit(changed the pic)

The ghost who soars!! wow, dan thats brilliant! I keep tellin people how friggin big its going to be and they keep drawing it too low! now plans dont lie and photos dont lie! so wullu! there you go ! big e is not only going to be a southbank landmark, but also a Melbourne landmark, a Victorian landmark and Australian landmark and of course a world landmark-becoming the worlds tallest apartment block!!!

how was the meet?

It's a monster! It's going to look like a giant blade soaring into the sky. Who said that it's not going to become the landmark that Melbourne has been looking for? Just imagine it at night with a glowing gold crown :-)

Originally posted by CULWULLA
The ghost who soars!! wow, dan thats brilliant! I keep tellin people how friggin big its going to be and they keep drawing it too low! now plans dont lie and photos dont lie! so wullu! there you go ! big e is not only going to be a southbank landmark, but also a Melbourne landmark, a Victorian landmark and Australian landmark and of course a world landmark-becoming the worlds tallest apartment block!!!

how was the meet?

The meet was good! I'll post the rest of the pictures on here once i get someone to host them. I'm running out of bandwidth this month!

That image is now my desktop background

BLOODY HELL!

I'm gobsmacked. Excellent effort on this one so it deserves a repeat......

http://melbournephotos.gotdns.com/pics/2003-09-19%20Melbourne%20-%20Ozscraper%20meet,%20Optus%20house%20and%20IBM%20tower/eureka%20black%20S8x7.jpg

Is it really gonna be that B I G ?

Cheers,

Adam

Originally posted by Kushantaiidan
That image is now my desktop background

Me too! Looks unbelieveable! Between Eureka and Freshwater Place (and hopefully Prima in the not too distant future), Southbank is going to be basically unrecognisable! :D

Here is a couple more from the meet!

http://members.optusnet.com.au/lukekasper/optushouse/DSC00034.JPG

http://members.optusnet.com.au/lukekasper/optushouse/Eurekasmaller.jpg

http://members.optusnet.com.au/lukekasper/optushouse/DSC00036.JPG

Imagine the view the construction workers, electricians, etc. are going to have when the big E gets into the 70's and 80's AND then the 90's!! And the bastards will be getting paid for it :D

check out southbank in those shots. nearly every building is new! thats an amazing transformation over the past decade! Southbank 2005 should be quite a sight!

Is that a crane I see at RDT?

http://members.optusnet.com.au/lukekasper/optushouse/Eurekasmaller.jpg

just left of E core, just visible...

:?

great pics kasper!

ita a very big mobile crane tays

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/483eureka_20030919.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/483eureka_20030919_1.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/483eureka_20030919_4.jpg

I guess they are using the giant mobile crane at RDT while they wait for a couple of tower cranes.

If the rumours are true, that Melbourne has run out of tower cranes at the moment as they are all hired... just shows the massive amount of construction going on in the city.

(get a dog up ya!!!)
Cheers

Dean - Melbourne

omg , looking awesome dudes! glass seems to be a nice reflective blue

great shots silvermb!

Looks more like an office tower at present. I like he reflective glass.

Yeah, the glass is very office-towerish looking, but thats definitely a good thing! wicked stuff!!!:guns1:

AWESOME ! :rock:

Very office towerish ! but thats what we want ! :colgate:

it is totally going to go off ! thats all i can say !!! :rock:

cheers

lozza :dooby:

Just think how MASSIVE the big E is going to look at level 70 and then think again that it still has 20 floors to go to the top!! That is bloody GIGANTIC. Gonna be a lot of sore necks on the shoulders of Melbournians and tourists when she's done is all I can say!!:D

All the edges and corners/angles give the base a real republic tower feel, i luv it.

Just went to have a look at the LSS webcam and thanks to some dicks out there they've had to remove it until the end of September!! :bleep: Some people!!!! Hey tays and cul, maybe you should block the people mentioned on the LSS website from accessing ozscrapers too to show our loyalty to LSS! After all, they're giving us some pretty good footage of the big E's progress and not charging us a cent.

How about I intermittently close this thread to FORCE people to take more notice of other projects ? ;)

I'll do it if this thread goes the way of the old Eureka thread ;)

Originally posted by ciaobellaxo
Just went to have a look at the LSS webcam and thanks to some dicks out there they've had to remove it until the end of September!! :bleep: Some people!!!! Hey tays and cul, maybe you should block the people mentioned on the LSS website from accessing ozscrapers too to show our loyalty to LSS! After all, they're giving us some pretty good footage of the big E's progress and not charging us a cent. :( Eep, I was guilty of a similar thing not too long ago...
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid55/pf1bad6a0c156b0353455abd3ace3aeb2/fc7f8daf.mpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid58/pc4f0797dba981ed64b9bc14b36a7d0e5/fc643157.mpg

I gave up on that about five months ago, partly because I was worried about it putting a strain on their bandwidth.

I still save a copy of the Omnicam, LSS and MCG webcams every day at 4pm though.

Originally posted by tayser
How about I intermittently close this thread to FORCE people to take more notice of other projects ? ;)

I'll do it if this thread goes the way of the old Eureka thread ;)

You can never force people to watch "Skippy - The Bush Kangaroo" by taking "The Simpsons" off air. ;)

Cheers,

Adam

I heard a rumour that a buyer of one of the most expensive apartments in Eureka had faced the embarrassment of having their $600K plus deposit cheque bounce!

Anyone have any details? Is it true?

Originally posted by CULWULLA
omg , looking awesome dudes! glass seems to be a nice reflective blue
Looks like the impending debate on whether Eureka is a blue or black tower is settled - Rialto Blue, it would seem! Damn it - I was hoping for Melb Central evil black. The bleaker, the better, I say!

Originally posted by Blabbyboy
Looks like the impending debate on whether Eureka is a blue or black tower is settled - Rialto Blue, it would seem! Damn it - I was hoping for Melb Central evil black. The bleaker, the better, I say!

I wouldn't bet on it. I still think it's gonna look pretty dark, in contrast to the white stripes. I think we'll get a much more reflective cross breed of black glass with stripes from Central, and the blue of rialt.

duke - I doubt that is true
99% of deposits on 'off the plan' constructions are done buy bank guarantee these days, not cash

World Tower?
http://www.source490.com.au/GWA/Source/Source490.nsf/Graphics/Karl%20Fender%203/$file/Eureka-moon%20KF.jpg

wtf?

Sensational, blue and gold. I rate that.

Thats a good find G-man..

That picture comes from the very first Eureka ad ever published in the Saturday Age *waaay* back in April 2000 ... I think I still have it somewhere..

Check this out..

http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/Eureka/DSC00553.jpg

I daresay this is the most accurate render yet colour wise of what the actual tower will look like - dark glass in evening with the strong white bands... and that Holy Shiza GOLD crown baby !!

Magnificent render.. even if the proportions of the tower are way overdone compared to everything else - I mean IBM barely goes past the podium in this pic !!

Check this out..

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Looks like "cheese-stick" yellow to me. :)

Looks way too big by scale compared to other existing buildings. If the rendering was of the tower by itself, it would be the best.

Originally posted by Curtain
Looks like "cheese-stick" yellow to me. :)

Yeah I'm starting to get really worried that the crown will be a dissapointing "yellow peril"! >(

Oh get over it you pessemistic sods !!!

They are NOT going to colour Eureka's crown a solid bloody canary yellow !! It's glass after all remember ????

It's gonna be glorious G-O-L-D like YE1's crown or the Hyatt .. and its gonna look fan-bloody-ferkin-tastic mark my words !!!

(c) Fired-Up Adrian 2003

" It's GOLD " .... " It's a keeper ...."

Goldmember already has the penthouse paid up in advance:)

Who gives a toss what colour the crown is going to be. It will look great whatever colour it is, however 'Sky on gold' seems more logical, as previously stated by a-brain.

I can't see Grollo putting something up there (like canary yellow) for everyone to look at and then throw up.

Originally posted by duke
I heard a rumour that a buyer of one of the most expensive apartments in Eureka had faced the embarrassment of having their $600K plus deposit cheque bounce!

Anyone have any details? Is it true?

Appears it was true!

Found this in the Margin Call column in The Australian last Tuesday:

Full article can be found at:
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,7344462%255E16942,00.html

This is the relevant bit:

House of the rising sums

Yet, the piece de resistance is Robert's purchase of the finest apartment in the entire metropolis of Melbourne.

We kid you not. Grocon's majestic minaret, the 88-storey Eureka Tower in Southbank, will arguably be the highest residential skyscraper in the world, outstripping the Trump Towers in New York and QI on the Gold Coast.

The sheer grandiosity of the project must have caught Robert's eye - and the Radisson Maine property "investment" seminars must have been running hot – for he lashed out on the most opulent space of all, the entire 84th floor of the Eureka, for no less than $6.8 million.

It would have cost $8 million for this 650 square-metre penthouse had Robert not wanted just the shell, so that he might do the fit-out himself.

In consideration then of the $6.8 million price tag, our hero did the deal and slapped down a ten per cent deposit. Naturally the means of payment for this $680,000 was a cheque.

You guessed it. Robert is now in receipt of a legal letter.

Originally posted by A-brain
Oh get over it you pessemistic sods !!!

They are NOT going to colour Eureka's crown a solid bloody canary yellow !! It's glass after all remember ????

It's gonna be glorious G-O-L-D like YE1's crown or the Hyatt .. and its gonna look fan-bloody-ferkin-tastic mark my words !!!

(c) Fired-Up Adrian 2003
C'mon, A-Brain! Put yer back into it! Shout it out again: G-O-L-D

This will be the Crown in the jewel of the south!

The rendering is out of scale. It looks twice the size. Hence the podium section is as large as the Esso building. The accurate height would most probably be as high as lower section of the tower.

gday Zion,

i think the whole twice the size Eureka thing was just a marketing ploy to exaggerate eurekas size for a bit of a laugh !

and yes, it is clearly out of scale. almost double i reckon !

i loke yr John 3.16 thing too !

cheers

lozza :dooby:

Two weeks since the last core rise was completed, any action???

WOW!! Two weeks already??? Doesn't time fly!! Level 43 will be exposed? Amazing stuff! Still not even halfway there!!!

Actually we were due for core pour either today (Tues) or by Thursday latest.

Did anyone notice one? (I was out today).

If it happens should see the rise maybe Saturday but probably next Monday.

Core crane has gone up another 3 storeys. Half floor rise on the east side, plus frantic cement pouring on the west side of the tower. I would imagine a core pour Wednesday or Thursday as A-brain has mentioned...


;)

Well observed maybach ..

No core pour today but pouring the West Side floorplates .. expect the core pour tomorrow (Thursday) almost definately.

I saw the just-raised core craned from down Swan St and after the next two rises happen.. it will *completely* dominate Southbank .. leaving IBM well and truly behind ..

Originally posted by duke
he lashed out on the most opulent space of all, the entire 84th floor of the Eureka, for no less than $6.8 million.



What a bargain!!!

The World Tower Penthouse will set you back $12 million and that for an apartment just 210 metres above the street compared to 250m + above the street this penthouse will be.

Originally posted by Fabian
What a bargain!!!

The World Tower Penthouse will set you back $12 million and that for an apartment just 210 metres above the street compared to 250m + above the street this penthouse will be.
when your up 200m+, i dont think you would notice the difference with 50m or so. All views from level50 up would be awesome!
World Towers highest apartment is 211m high on level 69.:cool:

I think you might notice the difference between 211m and 268m :-)

Originally posted by Grollo
I think you might notice the difference between 211m and 268m :-)
lol, yeah i ment in relevance to each city.Like World towers location with nearby scrapers which rise to 100-150m gives a similar effect with being up Eureka at 250m+ with 200m- scrapers nearby.
Does this make sense? or am i taking crap?lol

Makes plenty of sense. I imagine the view would be cool, with the shorter scrapers nearby, and the taller ones to the north, like looking up a slope of skyscrapers maybe! I'll have to check teh WT thread, see if there are any photos from the top yet.

Originally posted by Kushantaiidan
Makes plenty of sense. I imagine the view would be cool, with the shorter scrapers nearby, and the taller ones to the north, like looking up a slope of skyscrapers maybe! I'll have to check teh WT thread, see if there are any photos from the top yet.
i did a thread on views from there this week! from lev74/200m up!
heres link-

http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=62622

Originally posted by Fabian
What a bargain!!!

The World Tower Penthouse will set you back $12 million and that for an apartment just 210 metres above the street compared to 250m + above the street this penthouse will be.

I think the buyer just paid for the empty shell of the apartment. He will spend several million decking it out himself, so the price is a little deflated because of that.

Cheers

Dean - Melbourne

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Nice tays.. the glass comes up great in photos even with construction dirt on them..

For those who will ask - no core pour today - in fact no nothing as it was a rain day off (though as usual only half a days rain).

Still on track for pour tomorrow all things going well..

LOL not surprised A-brain. Construction workers just forget how to build when it rains. I'm sure they had a grand final day or two off as well.

Does anyone know if those balconies will be covered up with a blue screen or something?

The latest news is that the CFMEU and the ETU are negotiating with major developers for a nine hour week

that way they can work on mondays and have the rest of the week off.:D

LOL

Cheers

Dean - Melbourne

FAAAARK, I mean, FAAAARK!!! This thing, is going to be the quintessential scraper in Oz on completion, I'm sure of it. That glass, I mean, FAAARK you victorian bastards are lucky to witness this monolith grow.

Bugger.

:cool:

Oh yeah and judging by Mr T's photos, tower crane 2 is gonna have to get it's arse growing or it's gonna be taken over by the rising floors soon!!!