In a recent discussion with a friend who is from Durant, OK we discussed Dallas sprawl and how eventually it may reach into the Sherman-Denison region and spill over into Bryan County, Oklahoma which includes the city of Durant.

Aparently his parents and a good number of people in Durant/Bryan County, Oklahoma already commute into the Sherman-Denison area for work.
Roughly 20 miles from Durant to Denison.
With some commuting as far as McKinney, TX as well. Roughly 64 miles from Durant.

Oklahoma's 580 area code is running out of numbers as well and Oklahoma has applied for an overlay area code for 580 which my friend also argues is due to growth from Texas-Oklahoma relations.

McKinney and Sherman are 33 miles apart and that's a significant gap but driving to Dallas from Tulsa this is where I see the metro begin coming from the North.

So when do you think this would happen? or would it ever happen?

20 years at least to invade Oklahoma. It's already a stone's throw from the border anyway.

580 includes all of Oklahoma btw minus NE Oklahoma and Central Oklahoma... it even includes Ponca City.

It will happen, but not for a while. There are mostly small towns between McKinney and Sherman that only have a couple hundred, or a couple thousand in them. Homebuilders/developers are starting to go to these small towns and double their size. The newest is Melissa, Texas just north of McKinney that is seeing a lot of growth. With employment centers in Plano/Richardson/McKinney growing, more people may be moving farther north.

Someone from DFW could probably explain it better than me.

20 years at least to invade Oklahoma. It's already a stone's throw from the border anyway.

580 includes all of Oklahoma btw minus NE Oklahoma and Central Oklahoma... it even includes Ponca City.

Yea I know 580 includes most of the south and west of the state but the fact they are applying for an overlay code for it baffles me, where the growth could be occurring to necessitate an additional code?

Wouldn't be surprised, a recent trip to Dallas let me take in everything, things I didn't realize. It'll be good for OK lol.

Yea I know 580 includes most of the south and west of the state but the fact they are applying for an overlay code for it baffles me, where the growth could be occurring to necessitate an additional code?

Dunno but I imagine that they'd probably take a chunk out of 405 and 918 to do it. Maybe we'll get the area code 666. That would be cool.

haha some parts of the state deserve that area code fo' sho'
At this point I'm almost convinced Dallas sprawl wouldnt hit Oklahoma for yeaaaaaaaaars.
But I did discuss the fact if Dallas does sprawl that far North how cool it would be if DART had a commuter line that reached as far as Durant.... lil taste of cosmopolitan life for podunk.

Don't count on it. Does McKinney even get a DART line?

will it link up with austin first though, sandwiching Waco? ;)

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The last DART station is in Plano at Parker RD but the RR ROW they use follows US 75 into Oklahoma. I wouldn't doubt if Allen and McKinney get rail service in the coming decades though.

There's a whole lot of nothing between Denton and OK. Plus, the south metro would be rediscovered before anything ever gets close to OK. I mean there's nothing out for miles to Waxahachee. And the areas south of FW from D'ville to Midlothian are now catching fire. So that wouldn't happen in our lifetime, maybe never. Now there are ppl with weekend homes galore. I sold my house in Richardson to a family from Athens who go every weekend back to Cedar Creek Lake.

Now that you bring up the weekend home aspect of it, that has already colonized southern Oklahoma. Both sides of Lake Texoma are now starting to see proposals for resort hotels and the such, and especially the southeastern tip of Oklahoma (McCurtain County) where Lake Broken Bow is. They are blanketing that whole county with new log-cabin vacation homes. Some of them are really nice. Everyone building them seems to be from Dallas. I know that Dallas is a LOT closer than OKC or Tulsa to that corner of the state.

Yea I offroad and camp a lot down in the Kiamichi and see TONS of Texas plates at the campgrounds and state parks in that area. I suppose it's the closest thing to mountains to the DFW area.

Texas and Oklahoma have a mutual benefit situation going on in the border region and between OKC and Dallas... As much as some of us might hate to admit- we use each other for weekend getaways, our economies depend on each other, we like to trade oil companies, and we love each other very much.

It's like we're copulating with North Texas. Dallas is the weiner and Oklahoma gets pregnant with economic babies.

I doubt it, birth rates in North America (at least Canada, The US and Mexico) are going down, so before the Dallas-Fort Worth area reaches Oklahoma, the US population might start decreasing. Where I live, in Mexico they estimate that in 2050 we'll be 130 million people (right now we're about 107) and then slowly go down, due to having more deaths than births. Unless I'm mistaken, this will happen in the US first. You guys in the US are about 350 right?

Do you realize that one tenth of your country already resides within our borders?

Oh wow, I figured and have heard somewhere that birthrates will keep going up.

The US fertility rate is now slightly above replacement (the highest its been in a few decades if I recall). We are at 300 million now.

Mainly immigration is keeping us afloat.

Birthrates not withstanding, at the rate people keep relocating to Texas and, more specifically, Dallas-Ft. Worth, there may eventually be some spill-over into southern Oklahoma within the next 40-50 years.

The DFW metro area is on a trend of growth of about 150,000 new residents a year.

The DFW metro area is on a trend of growth of about 150,000 new residents a year.

And that = a lot!! lol

na, the DFW Metroplex will build a big wall right at the border to keep out the Okie hicks

Right. Then watch Grapevine's sales tax plunge and the significance of the Texas State Fair i.e. OU/Texas weekend decline. By the way Dallas may be in Texas but as far as football goes, it's just as much a Sooner ville as a Longhorn's kinda place, and a LOT of people in Dallas are "Okie hicks."

We're not going to get into technical semantics of Oklahoma v. Texas but I will say that Oklahoma is a very underrated, very classy place, and also at least we have abundant water supplies (that are OURS).

But just sayin. I know you're joking, but the very thought of a wall on the border..build it and you guys in Dallas have put yourself out of business.

Right. Then watch Grapevine's sales tax plunge and the significance of the Texas State Fair i.e. OU/Texas weekend decline. By the way Dallas may be in Texas but as far as football goes, it's just as much a Sooner ville as a Longhorn's kinda place, and a LOT of people in Dallas are "Okie hicks."

We're not going to get into technical semantics of Oklahoma v. Texas but I will say that Oklahoma is a very underrated, very classy place, and also at least we have abundant water supplies (that are OURS).

But just sayin. I know you're joking, but the very thought of a wall on the border..build it and you guys in Dallas have put yourself out of business.

are you talking about UTofO? University of Texas in Oklahoma? OU only wins with Texas players.

Right. Then watch Grapevine's sales tax plunge and the significance of the Texas State Fair i.e. OU/Texas weekend decline. By the way Dallas may be in Texas but as far as football goes, it's just as much a Sooner ville as a Longhorn's kinda place, and a LOT of people in Dallas are "Okie hicks."

We're not going to get into technical semantics of Oklahoma v. Texas but I will say that Oklahoma is a very underrated, very classy place, and also at least we have abundant water supplies (that are OURS).

But just sayin. I know you're joking, but the very thought of a wall on the border..build it and you guys in Dallas have put yourself out of business.

Yep. And hey here's an idea.... How about taking that wall idea down to your little crap hole of a river the rio grande and building wall to keep the mexicans out! Don't call us hicks man.

Dallas out of business? That's funny, I think Oklahoma casinos depend way more on our business than we "need" anyone from Oklahoma. Anyway, not trying to start a fight just stating what's true, and no Oklahomans are not hicks (very rude comment). It's a very beautiful state and has a lot going for it.

He means that we spend a LOT of money down there. And YES WE DO. People are always taken trips down there for a weekend and spendin hundreds... or even thousands of dollars..

Yep. And hey here's an idea.... How about taking that wall idea down to your little crap hole of a river the rio grande and building wall to keep the mexicans out! Don't call us hicks man.

dumb hick

Dallas out of business? That's funny, I think Oklahoma casinos depend way more on our business than we "need" anyone from Oklahoma. Anyway, not trying to start a fight just stating what's true, and no Oklahomans are not hicks (very rude comment). It's a very beautiful state and has a lot going for it.

im with you. I never see Oklahoma plates around the metroplex.

im with you. I never see Oklahoma plates around the metroplex.

You kidding me? Whenever I am in Dallas I see a ton of "Oklahoma-Native America" license plates. Just like in Houston you see many Louisiana plates.

Yeah my friends and family go down all the time...
I swear every weekend someone I kno is in Dallas.

dumb hick

Dude your an idiot calling me a hick. You must be Mexican or something.

im with you. I never see Oklahoma plates around the metroplex.

Wow, lol funny. Open your eyes when you drive moron.

Wow, lol funny. Open your eyes when you drive moron.

He's not allowed to drive.

He's not allowed to drive.

lol, must not.

hey, hick, what's Tulsa back words?

Dallas doesn't need Oklahoma's money, its not our fault we have so many Texans that have made the mistake of going to Ok schools. And i do not see as many Oklahoma Plates as you think. They might all stop in Allen for the outlet mall up there, but in the heart of it all...none.

Dallas out of business? That's funny, I think Oklahoma casinos depend way more on our business than we "need" anyone from Oklahoma. Anyway, not trying to start a fight just stating what's true, and no Oklahomans are not hicks (very rude comment). It's a very beautiful state and has a lot going for it.

Well the funny thing about the Oklahoma casinos is that they're not really something that benefits Oklahoma. Tribal members get a drop in their bucket but it's a huge drain on everybody else whose tax dollars get to be spent building infrastructure to these entities that do nothing economically thanks to the Bureau of Indian Affairs.

Dude your an idiot calling me a hick. You must be Mexican or something.

I hope that's satire. If it is it's very good satire.

so what will happen to Oklahoma after texas Legalizes gambling, reunion arena is leveled and a casino is built there and another casino is built by Lone Star Park? (the horse race track)

Hey, how about you shut up about OK, because we havn't said one bad thing about TX or Dallas... I love Dallas and Texas, in fact I want to move there once I get the chance.
You need to be knocked off your high horse there bud and come back down to earth. You think your on top of the world and your not. And Oklahomans support texas more than you think.

idiot.

so what will happen to Oklahoma after texas Legalizes gambling, reunion arena is leveled and a casino is built there and another casino is built by Lone Star Park? (the horse race track)

Yeah like that will ever happen. And it would probably inspire Oklahoma to actually legalize gambling itself, thus Oklahoma can finally profit off of the gambling.

The only casino that you guys' support is important to is the WinStar Casino in Thackerville.

not so much a high horse as it is watching you get mad. you let things bother you to much man.

And texas is pretty close to legalized gambling.
i hate the Win Star, if im going gambling im going to Vegas!
the only support we get from Oklahoma is you taking the kids not smart enough to get into Texas schools.

Don't forget the kids that are too smart to go to Texas schools (i.e., OU: more national merit scholars than any other university in America). They deserve to be brought up, too.

wow, someone watched to many OU commercials.

Can we please not have this bashing fest between the two states.
That said, it could happen and it could not. Because the sprawl could swing to the south towards Waxahachie.

Can we please not have this bashing fest between the two states.
That said, it could happen and it could not. Because the sprawl could swing to the south towards Waxahachie.

truth to that. Oak Cliff is being renovated and i think the metroplex will include Waco before Oklahoma

truth to that. Oak Cliff is being renovated and i think the metroplex will include Waco before Oklahoma

This is the point where everyone should just ignore these comments and go about their own topic. Why argue with something not worth arguing with?

Anyway, I hope the metroplex stops sprawling. The metro area should focus more on developing what land it already encompasses. Any thoughts on this?

truth to that. Oak Cliff is being renovated and i think the metroplex will include Waco before Oklahoma

I hope not. North of DFW is much nicer terrain than south of DFW.

I live in Azle which is kinda half-country half-suburb, becoming more and more of a suburb..on the far reaches of the Fort Worth side of DFW and what attracted me was how relaxing and calm it is, good schools, and nice countryside scenery with rolling hills and nice neighborhoods going up. I think that the Oklahoma side would be better for this kind of development than the Waco side which isnt very pretty.

This is the point where everyone should just ignore these comments and go about their own topic. Why argue with something not worth arguing with?

Anyway, I hope the metroplex stops sprawling. The metro area should focus more on developing what land it already encompasses. Any thoughts on this?

I agree with that. Dallas and Fort Worth are working to bring people into the cities to live but its going to take a few years before we see the streets of CBD bustling with people.

I hope not. North of DFW is much nicer terrain than south of DFW.

I live in Azle which is kinda half-country half-suburb, becoming more and more of a suburb..on the far reaches of the Fort Worth side of DFW and what attracted me was how relaxing and calm it is, good schools, and nice countryside scenery with rolling hills and nice neighborhoods going up. I think that the Oklahoma side would be better for this kind of development than the Waco side which isnt very pretty.

South Metrolplex looks bad because it has been ignored for so many years, but it is slowly being cleaned up. the Metroplex is evolving into a better place day by day, week by week, year by year. by 2012, I believe the Metroplex will have improved by 80% of what it is at this moment.

Ah, good ole D-Brink. lasted on the DFW forum for about 6 days before he was banned. Good to hear from ya again bud.

Good to hear c troy matthis knows how to run a forum..

South Metrolplex looks bad because it has been ignored for so many years, but it is slowly being cleaned up. the Metroplex is evolving into a better place day by day, week by week, year by year. by 2012, I believe the Metroplex will have improved by 80% of what it is at this moment.

Azletexan was talking about terrain not just that the south half of the Metroplex is a trashy dump, the complete opposite of the north half of the Metroplex. The Oklahoma side (which Azle, TX is on) is pretty, with rolling hills and wooded settings, while the Waco side is bleak and depressing.

not so much a high horse as it is watching you get mad. you let things bother you to much man.

And texas is pretty close to legalized gambling.
i hate the Win Star, if im going gambling im going to Vegas!
the only support we get from Oklahoma is you taking the kids not smart enough to get into Texas schools.

Then you have a problem it sounds like. I'm not really getting mad just enlightening YOUR hick ass.

Azletexan was talking about terrain not just that the south half of the Metroplex is a trashy dump, the complete opposite of the north half of the Metroplex. The Oklahoma side (which Azle, TX is on) is pretty, with rolling hills and wooded settings, while the Waco side is bleak and depressing.

I actually think the south side of Dallas looks nice. There are some big hills near Cedar Hill and along I-20. The north side (Plano, Frisco, McKinney) is all pretty flat. The Fort Worth side is hilly though from what I can remember.

I actually think the south side of Dallas looks nice. There are some big hills near Cedar Hill and along I-20. The north side (Plano, Frisco, McKinney) is all pretty flat. The Fort Worth side is hilly though from what I can remember.

I really enjoyed the North part when I went down there in August. Not too many hills, but really nice suburbs and it just seemed nice lol.

Well you know, there are a lot of farms that you see from the highway between Denton and Gainesville, and same goes for the 75 corridor in between the developing suburbs. But really if you have ever had to take a different route (i.e., because of how traffic gets stopped up at the border) you see much different countryside for sure.

Really in my experience the terrain in and around DFW can be crappy or pretty depending on how close you are to a lake. Most of the lakes are north..

Well I haven't been on here for a few days but man the posting have been interesting.
The whole topic is about how fast and almost if totally un-controlled the development is that it just keeps creeping further north towards Oklahoma. It's not that I want to see southern Oklahoma be gobbled up by obscene sprawl. I'm just curious on individual opinions on how far it will go. It's pretty obvious there will never be much of anything to stop development between Sherman and Melissa.

yall just make thread about everything...yawn

yall just make thread about everything...yawn

Like what you just did? I like your comment above your avatar, too.

No, that's what the skybar is for... And yeah Trae, i'm diggin that comment to.

There was an article in the Star-Telegram (Ft. Worth paper) a few months ago about a new high tech subdivision that was going to be built in northern Collin County. The paper said the fuss about the subdivision wasn't all the fiber optics being laid or anything else. The fuss was that the subdivision was going to be closer to the Oklahoma boarder than it would be to downtown Dallas!

This is the point where everyone should just ignore these comments and go about their own topic. Why argue with something not worth arguing with?

Anyway, I hope the metroplex stops sprawling. The metro area should focus more on developing what land it already encompasses. Any thoughts on this?

We all would hope so especially the main city in the metro(that would be Dallas), but American cities love to sprawl.

Azletexan was talking about terrain not just that the south half of the Metroplex is a trashy dump, the complete opposite of the north half of the Metroplex. The Oklahoma side (which Azle, TX is on) is pretty, with rolling hills and wooded settings, while the Waco side is bleak and depressing.

......how about actually visiting Waco before you try and criticize it. You make it sound like Oklahoma is the best place ever when it's not.

......how about actually visiting Waco before you try and criticize it. You make it sound like Oklahoma is the best place ever when it's not.

Oh shut up. No he's not, i'm sick of all you saying all that b/s about how we exaggerate about OK. Maybe it's because we're so used to people saying how trashy it is and theres nothing to do here, and theres nothing but dirt. When none of that's true. Try visiting it before you criticize it.

Oh shut up. No he's not, i'm sick of all you saying all that b/s about how we exaggerate about OK. Maybe it's because we're so used to people saying how trashy it is and theres nothing to do here, and theres nothing but dirt. When none of that's true. Try visiting it before you criticize it.

First off I was responding to someone who called Waco depressing and bleak and second off I didn't criticize OK! All I said was he acts as if it's the best place ever trying to get off by calling my hometown depressing.

First off I was responding to someone who called Waco depressing and bleak and second off I didn't criticize OK! All I said was he acts as if it's the best place ever trying to get off by calling my hometown depressing.

Oh, ok well I apologize for that. Waco seems like a nice little city. Never been there myself so I won't say anything. I havn't really been on the Souht side of Dallas, but I did enjoy myself on the North side, it was real nice.

Ah, good ole D-Brink. lasted on the DFW forum for about 6 days before he was banned. Good to hear from ya again bud.

2 months before Trolly Girl and FoUTAsports decided to have personal vendettas on me because im a bad speller and they pretty much disagreed with EVERYTHING i say. Then im the one who gets kicked becasue there "Veteran" members. bunch of bull. O well, i have a new profile on there now. I just dont post allot, I like to read more.

Wouldn't it be easier to develop on flat lands south of the Metroplex then rolling hills north of the Metroplex. Trust me, I love the drive north on 75 to Oklahoma, so i would push not to develop them to keep it scenic.

Oh, ok well I apologize for that. Waco seems like a nice little city. Never been there myself so I won't say anything. I havn't really been on the Souht side of Dallas, but I did enjoy myself on the North side, it was real nice.

Waco is a fun college town, its like Lubbock in the Panhandle

......how about actually visiting Waco before you try.

Why would anyone do that on purpose.:lol:

Why would anyone do that on purpose.:lol:

Great bars

2 months before Trolly Girl and FoUTAsports decided to have personal vendettas on me because im a bad speller and they pretty much disagreed with EVERYTHING i say. Then im the one who gets kicked becasue there "Veteran" members. bunch of bull. O well, i have a new profile on there now. I just dont post allot, I like to read more.

Both of those members are ... also native Oklahomans, I believe. Or at least FoUTAsports went with trollygirl2 when she came up to OKC last year to take pics of her hometown..

As for Waco, nice town, well-ranked university, but the terrain, I'm sorry, is hideous and there is nothing in between the south side of DFW and Waco but crap. And for me to call Waco a nice town is a compliment considering the way I've assailed towns, even some in Oklahoma, in the past..

Both of those members are ... also native Oklahomans, I believe. Or at least FoUTAsports went with trollygirl2 when she came up to OKC last year to take pics of her hometown..

I cant stand those 2

As for Waco, nice town, well-ranked university, but the terrain, I'm sorry, is hideous and there is nothing in between the south side of DFW and Waco but crap. And for me to call Waco a nice town is a compliment considering the way I've assailed towns, even some in Oklahoma, in the past..

ya, the drive between Dallas and Waco is hideous.

I-35W isn't that bad. There are some nice hills south of Burleson.

I-35W isn't that bad. There are some nice hills south of Burleson.

W is fine, E is bad

Why would anyone do that on purpose.:lol:

I don't know,but it seems to attract more than 500,000 people a year for all the events and things that happen here.:)

Both of those members are ... also native Oklahomans, I believe. Or at least FoUTAsports went with trollygirl2 when she came up to OKC last year to take pics of her hometown..

As for Waco, nice town, well-ranked university, but the terrain, I'm sorry, is hideous and there is nothing in between the south side of DFW and Waco but crap. And for me to call Waco a nice town is a compliment considering the way I've assailed towns, even some in Oklahoma, in the past..

I'd recommend exiting the interstate. In addition to what this article from "Guidelive" mentions, Hillsboro and Corsicana are also nice places to visit.

"The Ellis County Courthouse is the centerpiece of downtown Waxahachie.
The 15-block downtown clustered around the majestic Ellis County Courthouse is a mega-flashback, including the meticulously restored, 91-year-old historic Rogers Hotel, a working soda fountain (Weezer's Classic Cup) and fancy dining choices (LaPrelle, Emory's Bistro).

Check the Webb Gallery for Venzil Zatoupil's toothpick sculpture of a Ferris wheel (constructed with 9,900 toothpicks and 140 chopsticks) and an excellent array of other folk art.

Stop in at the Ellis County Museum on the corner of the square for driving-tour directions to places that appeared in such films as Tender Mercies, The Trip to Bountiful, Places in the Heart and Don Henley's "The End of the Innocence" music video.

From Waxahachie, it's a 15-minute drive west on FM66 – which, for romantic purposes, will be referred to as Texas Route 66 – to Maypearl, through a rolling countryside where tract homes are beginning to pop up, the kind of setting that so intrigued David Byrne when he filmed True Stories, the quirky paean to specialness, around Dallas.

Casting director Carla James says Maypearl "may be the most beautiful place on earth in the spring." The wide open spaces hold up pretty well, too. The reward at the end of the road is a real, honest comfort meal at the Busy Bee Cafe, a classic chat 'n' chew where CFS on Mondays for lunch is $5.75 with tea and dessert. The Busy Bee is now open on some evenings, and on weekends there's music by touring Texas singer-songwriters at the Back of the Bee.

Head home by taking FM157 north from Maypearl to Venus, 10 miles away. The old bank on the corner of the humble rectangle that passes for the town square and part of the covered sidewalk on the main street were used as a backdrop when Faye Dunaway and Warren Beatty were playing Texas' most notorious bank-robbing couple in the film Bonnie and Clyde in 1967."

I don't know,but it seems to attract more than 500,000 people a year for all the events and things that happen here.:)

500,000? Source to that?
Sorry. But I don't find much of anything redeeming between Austin and Dallas on I-35. The entire area of North Central Texas is boring and yes, I been to Waco. Thousands of times.

500,000? Source to that?
Sorry. But I don't find much of anything redeeming between Austin and Dallas on I-35. The entire area of North Central Texas is boring and yes, I been to Waco. Thousands of times.

get off the freeway

get off the freeway

I did.

500,000? Source to that?
Sorry. But I don't find much of anything redeeming between Austin and Dallas on I-35. The entire area of North Central Texas is boring and yes, I been to Waco. Thousands of times.

Yeah and also find it hard to believe people actually visit Dallas and Houston. You'd be suprised by all the things Waco has to offer.

Yeah and also find it hard to believe people actually visit Dallas and Houston. You'd be suprised by all the things Waco has to offer.

How is it hard to believe people visit Houston and Dallas? Those two metropolitan areas make up half of the state.

And I believe TexasBoi is from Central Texas, so I am sure he has been to Waco many times (enough to judge it).

I did.

then I guess we'll have to disagree

Yeah and also find it hard to believe people actually visit Dallas and Houston. You'd be suprised by all the things Waco has to offer.

WHAT!!!??? DFW alone has more attractions then the entire state of TX (a little exaggeration) and the entire midwest and plains..wtf kinda comment is that?? lol

WHAT!!!??? DFW alone has more attractions then the entire state of TX (a little exaggeration) and the entire midwest and plains..wtf kinda comment is that?? lol

A little exaggeration? DFW is not even close to having more attractions than the entire state of Texas, let alone the Midwest (your including Chicago, among other cities here).

A little exaggeration? DFW is not even close to having more attractions than the entire state of Texas, let alone the Midwest (your including Chicago, among other cities here).

Yes I knew someone would bring Chicago up.. Just ignore that post lol.

I just don't understand why someone would say something like that. When I think of going to Texas, I think of stopping in DFW, not Waco.

Why are people so intent on drafting such Southern states with some Plains influence (further west) into the Midwest?

how did the midwest get into this? The south and midwest are like apples and oranges.

Ah man... I said forget that post, I didn't mean to say anything like that. When I was saying midwest, I was really meaning like Kansas, Nebraska, SD and ND.. Just forget about it people.

I understood why you made that post. Understand what I was asking in my post: Why do you and others love to lump TX and OK with KS, NE, SD, and ND?

It was just a comparison.. And I don't recall doing that very often.

WHAT!!!??? DFW alone has more attractions then the entire state of TX (a little exaggeration) and the entire [comment removed by posters' intent] and plains..wtf kinda comment is that?? lol

There. You put Dallas "with" the Plains.

I was comparing. I didn't mean to put Dallas with the plains, because it's not. I could have said Northwest, or Northeast (which is entirely not true, once again using an example). Would that have made a difference?

Yes because people regularly put OK and TX with the Plains and it bugs me. People don't regularly put OK and TX with .. Canada, or wherever, so that's silly enough for me to ignore it.

Oh ok, I see what you're saying... But this is the Southeast forum...:lol:

I understand now.

Texas is really considered its own region by some people

How is it hard to believe people visit Houston and Dallas? Those two metropolitan areas make up half of the state.

And I believe TexasBoi is from Central Texas, so I am sure he has been to Waco many times (enough to judge it).

Don't take it personal. I freakin love Dallas and Houston and plan to move to Houston!

I'm guessing you haven't seen how many people on these boards bash these two great cities and sometimes make statements about moving there or visting. Well its the same for Waco, people think its a dump,but wouldn't believe how many people visit this city every single year. I was using Houston and Dallas as examples.