Cabanatuan and Palayan Cities, and Nueva Ecija Province

[allan_dude]

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Nueva Ecija is the largest province and the biggest rice producer of Central Luzon, thus, often referred to as the “Rice Bowl of the Philippines.” Its capital is Palayan City. Nueva Ecija borders, from the south clockwise, Bulacan, Pampanga, Tarlac, Pangasinan, Nueva Vizcaya, and Aurora.

Among its main attractions is the Pantabangan River, the country’s first multi-purpose infrastructure, which stands today as a phenomenon in Filipino engineering feats. Another is the Pampanga river, cutting across a rich valley floor, famed for irrigation, the generation of hydroelectric power, and the mitigation of flood damage.

Nueva Ecija is also the agri-tourism pilot site in Central Luzon due to the presence of the Central Luzon State University in the province.

Its other worthwhile attractions include the Minalungao National Park, Rizal Hot Spring, Burburayok Springs and Pajanutic Falls, Barrio Puncan in the town of Carranglan, among others.

HISTORY

In 1705, Spanish Governor General Fausto Cruzar created the province and named it Nueva Ecija after his hometown Ecija in Seville, Spain.

In 1818, Nueva Ecija annexed a long strip of territory facing the Pacific Ocean in the east that extended from Palawan (now in Isabela) in the north to Infanta in Tayabas (now Quezon) in the south. In 1848, it acquired the towns of Gapan, San Isidro, Cabiao. San Antonio and Casiguran were separated from Nueva Ecija and annexed to Tayabas. Palanan was transferred first to Nueva Ecija then to Isabela. With the subsequent separation of Infanta and Polilio Island, Nueva Ecija’s isolation from the sea became complete.

Nueva Ecija was one of the first eight provinces that took up arms against Spanish rule in 1896. During the Filipino-American War, General Emilio Aguinaldo retreated to the province and, on May 9, 1899, made Cabanatuan the temporary seat of his government until it was moved to Bamban, Tarlac. General Antonio Luna was killed on June 5, 1899 in the convent of the town’s church.

American forces, after occupying Nueva Ecija in 1899, established the provincial seat of government in San Isidro. Other provincial capitals had been Baler (now in Aurora), Bongabon, and Cabanatuan. On June 19,1965, Republic Act No. 4475 created the city of Palayan as the new capital.

GEOGRAPHY

The province is the largest in Central Luzon. Its terrain begins with the southwestern marshes near the Pampanga border. It levels off and then gradually increases in elevation to rolling hills as it approaches the mountains of Sierra Madre in the east, and the Caraballo and Cordillera ranges in the north.

POPULATION

According to the NCSO, Nueva Ecija has a population of 1,310,829 of which 13.16% are concentrated in Cabanatuan City. The rural population totals 799,280 while the urban population is 511,549.
Tagalog is predominantly spoken by the Novo Ecijanos, comprising 67.7%, followed by the Ilocano dialect at 29.93%. Other dialects are Pampango, Pangasinan, Bicol, and Ilonggo.

ECONOMY

Nueva Ecija is one of the top producers of agricultural goods in the country. Its principal crops are rice, corn, and onion. The province is often referred to as the “Rice Bowl of the Philippines.” Other major crops are mango, banana, eggplant, and garlic.

Fishponds are unevenly distributed throughout the province but the largest concentrations are in San Antonio, Sta. Rosa, and Cuyapo.

Several areas have mineral deposits. Copper and manganese have been found in Gen. Tinio, Carranglan, and Patabangan. The upper reaches of Carranglan and Palyan are said to contain gold.

Map:

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Cities
Cabanatuan City (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabanatuan_City)
Gapan City (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gapan_City)
Palayan City (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palayan_City)
San Jose City (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Jose_City%2C_Nueva_Ecija)
Science City of Muñoz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_City_of_Mu%C3%B1oz)Municipalities
Aliaga (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliaga%2C_Nueva_Ecija)
Bongabon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bongabon%2C_Nueva_Ecija)
Cabiao (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabiao%2C_Nueva_Ecija)
Carranglan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carranglan%2C_Nueva_Ecija)
Cuyapo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuyapo%2C_Nueva_Ecija)
Gabaldon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabaldon%2C_Nueva_Ecija) (Bitulok & Sabani)
General Mamerto Natividad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Mamerto_Natividad%2C_Nueva_Ecija)
General Tinio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Tinio%2C_Nueva_Ecija) (Papaya)
Guimba (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guimba%2C_Nueva_Ecija)
Jaén (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaen%2C_Nueva_Ecija)
Laur (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laur%2C_Nueva_Ecija)
Licab (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licab%2C_Nueva_Ecija)
Llanera (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llanera%2C_Nueva_Ecija)
Lupao (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lupao%2C_Nueva_Ecija)
Nampicuan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nampicuan%2C_Nueva_Ecija)
Pantabangan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantabangan%2C_Nueva_Ecija)
Peñaranda (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pe%C3%B1aranda%2C_Nueva_Ecija)
Quezon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quezon%2C_Nueva_Ecija)
Rizal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rizal%2C_Nueva_Ecija)
San Antonio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Antonio%2C_Nueva_Ecija)
San Isidro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Isidro%2C_Nueva_Ecija)
San Leonardo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Leonardo%2C_Nueva_Ecija)
Santa Rosa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Rosa%2C_Nueva_Ecija)
Santo Domingo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santo_Domingo%2C_Nueva_Ecija)
Talavera (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talavera%2C_Nueva_Ecija)
Talugtug (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talugtug%2C_Nueva_Ecija)
Zaragoza (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaragoza%2C_Nueva_Ecija)Text source: wikipedia, DOT

ABOVE: Photo credits (L-R)
Flickr.com photos by Shubert Ciencia (http://flickr.com/people/bigberto/), DOT Region III (http://flickr.com/photos/tiotuico/) & jaydigital (http://flickr.com/photos/jaydigital/)

Flickr Finds
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Cabanatuan
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Pantabangan Dam
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Nueva Ecija Sports Complex
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NE Pacific Mall
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Sprawling over a 5-hectare prime property along Maharlika Highway in Cabanatuan City, Nueva Ecija, NE Pacific Mall is the first fully-integrated shopping center to rise in the central plains of Luzon.

NE Pacific Mall boasts of a combination of the finest elements of Metro Manila's bustling commercial hubs: a warehouse supermarket, a department store, mall shops, a family amusement center, a sit-down fastfood center, over 250 cluster stalls, state of the art cinemas, and a Brunswick-megged, 14-lane fully-computerized bowling center. (LANDCO (http://www.landcopacific.com/projects/nepacific/gallery.shtml))

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[tracymack]

Nice one allan_dude. Do we have something like this in the Pangasinan thread? I didn't know NE Pacific sits on just a 5 hectare lot. The SM Supercenter Rosales lot is 9 hectares, SM City Urdaneta at 15 hectares & SM City Dagupan at 14 hectares. The NE Pacific Mall at 5 hectares is already huge.

[tracymack]

Is the traffic along Maharlika Highway bad? Judging from the pic, it only has two lanes. MacArthur Highway in Urdaneta City is also two-lane but a lot of motorists treat it like a four-lane road. :lol: That's how bad traffic is back home. That is why it is being widened into four lanes (which motorists can then treat as six lanes :lol:). Because of road widening activities, traffic has become even worse.:nuts: I wonder if Cabanatuan City is experiencing the same thing. I guess officials did not expect Urdaneta to grow at a very fast pace.

[allan_dude]

^^ None. Maybe we could request our moderators to help us add a "thread starter" in our local thread. :)

Traffic situation in Cabanatuan is pretty bad. One time we were on our way to San Jose and were caught in a traffic jam, It took us almost an hour just to cross the city. :ohno:

This province is very unrepresented here in SSC considering it has five cities, it is the center for agri-business and agri-technology in the Phil, and is a part of the "Billionaires Club" in terms of IRA. Anyone from Nueva Ecija? Please post away here! :)

[tracymack]

^^ None. Maybe we could request our moderators to help us add a "thread starter" in our local thread. :)


That's a good idea! :okay:


Traffic situation in Cabanatuan is pretty bad. One time we were on our way to San Jose and were caught in a traffic jam, It took us almost an hour just to cross the city. :ohno:



Worse than Urdaneta? So Maharlika Highway has only two lanes?

This province is very unrepresented here in SSC considering it has five cities, it is the center for agri-business and agri-technology in the Phil, and is a part of the "Billionaires Club" in terms of IRA. Anyone from Nueva Ecija? Please post away here!:)


Yeah. Start posting people!:wave:

[r93k401]

Hot springs in Rizal, Nueva Ecija. Where is that.... I grew up in Rizal when I was in elementary but my family moved out when I was in high school.. never knew there is one there..

[allan_dude]

Worse than Urdaneta? So Maharlika Highway has only two lanes? Hmm I haven't experienced the infamous Urdaneta traffic. Maharlika is like MacArthur Highway, at one part there are two lanes each per direction.

[allan_dude]

Cabanatuan City
Courtesy of Nueva Ecija Journal (http://www2.mozcom.com/%7Evalmonte/cabanatuan/)
Digital photos by Ramon R. Valmonte


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Cabanatuan City Central Transport Terminal

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Part of Maharlika Road fronting the National Food Authority Compound

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Primavera townhouses

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Lakewood City

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Maria Assumpta Seminary

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NE Pacific Mall

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Megacenter

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NE Mall

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Dr. Jose Rizal's monument

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Ninoy Aquino Freedom Park

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Dr. Paulino J. Garcia Memorial Medical and Research Center,

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Nueva Ecija Doctors Hospital

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Iglesia ni Cristo Cathedral.

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Wesleyan University-Philippine

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Nueva Ecija University of Science and Technology

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Nueva Ecija National High School

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College of the Immaculate Conception High School Department

[barrera_marquez]

Palayan City as we know is a sleepy city. People even argue if it is really a city but do we have a city seal for Palayan City? I have never seen one. Thanks.

[tracymack]

Hmm I haven't experienced the infamous Urdaneta traffic. Maharlika is like MacArthur Highway, at one part there are two lanes each per direction.

I see. Thanks for the info allan_dude. Hope you don't get to experience THE traffic. :)

[bariQ]

wow may NE thread na pala :D

may town ba na baloc sa NE?

[tracymack]

Palayan City as we know is a sleepy city. People even argue if it is really a city but do we have a city seal for Palayan City? I have never seen one. Thanks.

Really? It's the capital of NE right? I guess Palayan shares the same thing with Trece Martirez City, the capital of Cavite. It's more like a town and the reason people flock this city is that it's home to provincial government offices. There's nothing wrong with it though. Maybe government officials prefer a more laid back environment. :)

[barrera_marquez]

Really? It's the capital of NE right? I guess Palayan shares the same thing with Trece Martirez City, the capital of Cavite. It's more like a town and the reason people flock this city is that it's home to provincial government offices. There's nothing wrong with it though. Maybe government officials prefer a more laid back environment. :)

Yes. I am searching for it via the Internet and nothing showed. I was searching for almost an hour. Palayan City is very far and returning to one of my hometowns just to get one is a waste of money. Hey, the fare to Palayan City is almost P200 one way! Sometimes buses even refuse to to go there. You know the Cabanatuan Central Terminal, all buses converge there but if you're going to Palayan City, you must take a jeep which charges you P17 to go there. I only know one bus company that has the courage to go there- 5 Star. That is why I seldom go to Nueva Ecija because not of the distance but because there are not many buses plying there. Just like a ghost town- call it "Palayanphobia."

It just goes only like this: Palayan City is the brain since the government of the province is in that city but the heart of Nueva Ecija is in Cabanatuan City since the city generates most of the income for the province. Once Cabanatuan City stops, the entire Nueva Ecija including Palayan City will be doomed.

With the comparison to Trece Martirez City, the situation in Palayan City is worse. We have only 30,000 people living here. Search for Palayan City in Google Earth and you will not see buildings but farms instead. I am not against Palayan City's cityhood but I do not want any more Palayan Cities again.

[tracymack]

^^ I hear you. I'm not sure what the requirements are for a town to be eligible to be upgraded to a city but I personally think this should be revisited. A lot of so called "cities" have be popping up all over the place but if you visit these places you might end up wondering how they got to city status. I would think that population, income, infrastructure, employment opportunities, presence of educational institutions & commercial establishments.. I can go on but these definitely are and should be taken into consideration. Is the status quo for qualifying towns too low? Maybe the bar needs to be raised.

As for Palayan City, maybe officials saw that it had potential of some sort that's why they opted to have it as NE's capital. :) I don't know for sure because I've never been there.

[barrera_marquez]

^^ I hear you. I'm not sure what the requirements are for a town to be eligible to be upgraded to a city but I personally think this should be revisited. A lot of so called "cities" have be popping up all over the place but if you visit these places you might end up wondering how they got to city status. I would think that population, income, infrastructure, employment opportunities, presence of educational institutions & commercial establishments.. I can go on but these definitely are and should be taken into consideration. Is the status quo for qualifying towns too low? Maybe the bar needs to be raised.

As for Palayan City, maybe officials saw that it had potential of some sort that's why they opted to have it as NE's capital. :) I don't know for sure because I've never been there.

There are only a few things that are needed to develop this into a real city. Meaning, they should these things to boost development.

Government Service- are there enough police stations for the city? Are there fire stations and hospitals for the city? If there are not, my goodness! How does this place become a city without all those things? Don't expect development, they will really never come without those.
Infrastructure- all buses and almost all roads in Nueva Ecija lead to Cabanatuan City, not Palayan City, they should invest more here. I remember my journey there- it will not just cost me almost P200 but also four hours from San Fernando City alone! Build a good road network from Palayan City to other cities/municipalities in Nueva Ecija.
Reduce agricultural zoning- the fact that a city should be in a high population, the city's agricultural zoning could be reduced. Why? There are many farms there! Not houses, not buildings, not everything, just plain farms or if your lucky, a good road but some roads within the city in poor condition. Look at the picture of the Nueva Ecija capitol building in Palayan City, it doesn't have buildings nearby! Increase residential, industrial and commercial zoning here! This situation is worse than Santa Cruz, Laguna actually folks!
Communications- do I have anything more to say? The communications are better in Cabanatuan City, not Palayan City.

If those conditions were not met, better transfer the Nueva Ecija capitol from Palayan City to Cabanatuan City! Cabanatuan City looks more like the capital city of Nueva Ecija!

[tracymack]

^^ I'm sorry you feel that way about Palayan. I hope things (development-wise) get better soon. :)

[barrera_marquez]

^^ I'm sorry you feel that way about Palayan. I hope things (development-wise) get better soon. :)

Too bad it is my hometown. How come my hometown became like that? Even Kalibo is better, Kalibo looks like a city now but still a municipality. But this thing, a "city" but looks more like a village, not even a municipality. My God! Can't the development be done right here? Even Gapan City and Munoz City is better and yet they only became cities during the years 2000-2001, classified as Nueva Ecija's newest cities.

Anyway, I heard a road is going to be constructed here in Nueva Ecija to Aurora. If you can make it an expressway and then make it pass on to Palayan City, then the development can begin there. Remember, the people are aware that this is the Nueva Ecija capital and that might kick-start development.

Now I know why Palayan City is called Palayan City- it is a "city" full of palayans (rice fields).

Hey wait, Palayan City is created as a city in 1965. What does Palayan City look then? I'll bet it's worse.

Tracymark, during year 2000-2001, I am not sure, the bars for cityhood requirements have been raised already but those "cities" managed to be cities because of grant of exemptions for the requirements. This is the problem of Ilagan, Isabela which has failed cityhood because of plebiscite in 1998. They cannot meet the P100M income requirement. But Kalibo, a municipality that looks like a city has undergone several plebiscites for cityhood but I guess the people of Kalibo didn't want to pay higher taxes so they always decline it.

[tracymack]

^^ Exemptions? Really? That's twisted. Totally unfair. Why award cityhood status to undeserving towns? IMO, cityhood has to be earned.

By the way, it's tracymack. :D

[tracymack]

Tracymark, during year 2000-2001, I am not sure, the bars for cityhood requirements have been raised already but those "cities" managed to be cities because of grant of exemptions for the requirements. This is the problem of Ilagan, Isabela which has failed cityhood because of plebiscite in 1998. They cannot meet the P100M income requirement. But Kalibo, a municipality that looks like a city has undergone several plebiscites for cityhood but I guess the people of Kalibo didn't want to pay higher taxes so they always decline it.

That is one thing that has to be considered. The income classification of residents. Officials need to be certain their residents can indeed afford city life before pushing for cityhood.

[barrera_marquez]

That is one thing that has to be considered. The income classification of residents. Officials need to be certain their residents can indeed afford city life before pushing for cityhood.

Not really, one thing needed here is the income of the municipality. If the municipal income is high enough, then there won't be any tax increases when it becomes a city. Right?

Exemptions? Really? That's twisted. Totally unfair. Why award cityhood status to undeserving towns? IMO, cityhood has to be earned.


Check out the Why there are so many "cities" thread, the debate there about those so-called "cities" is doing well. I suggest you to check it out to see it.

If you want to see those pesky exemptions, take a load of this:
http://city-ph.com/news/city-mayors-launch-campaign-vs-bets-behind-cityhood-bills-inquirernet-philippine-news-for-filipinos

Thanks for correction, tracymack.

[tracymack]

Not really, one thing needed here is the income of the municipality. If the municipal income is high enough, then there won't be any tax increases when it becomes a city. Right?

I agree but when things get tight finance-wise for the new city, it's the residents that get impacted the most.

[tracymack]

Check out the Why there are so many "cities" thread, the debate there about those so-called "cities" is doing well. I suggest you to check it out to see it.

If you want to see those pesky exemptions, take a load of this:
http://city-ph.com/news/city-mayors-launch-campaign-vs-bets-behind-cityhood-bills-inquirernet-philippine-news-for-filipinos


Nice find barrera_marquez! This is an excerpt from the link: “We do not oppose the creation of more cities but we should not create new ones if the government cannot afford to support them,”. I say no more exemptions. Municipalities should work hard to earn their cityhood. Sometimes some towns are just not meant to be cities. There should be a balance of urban & rural communities. Officials should not force the issue of cityhood. Gaining cityhood does not necessarily mean improved quality of life for the residents.

I think we should move this discussion to the existing thread to give way to NE posts. :)

[barrera_marquez]

Since I am really concerned to the condition of Nueva Ecija's capital. I want to see your opinions about the issue if Nueva Ecija's capital should remain in Palayan City or should be transferred back to Cabanatuan City?

Comments, obviously are very welcome. Let your voice be heard!

[GearX]

Let it be to have 2 capitals.

Palayan - Government & Institution Capital
Cabanatuan - Commercial Capital & Business center

:cheers:

[Colonel Burger]

A capital should not necessarily be the center of commerce and industry. Take for example the capital city of Australia, Canberra, the commonwealth government is housed there, but the center of commerce, trade, etc. etc. is Sydney and Melbourne

[barrera_marquez]

A capital should not necessarily be the center of commerce and industry. Take for example the capital city of Australia, Canberaa, the commonwealth government is housed there, but the center of commerce, trade, etc. etc. is Sydney and Melbourne

The fact that Cabanatuan City is the former capital of Nueva Ecija is not yet been removed to the hearts of many Nueva Ecijanos until this day. Canberra actually is a great city. The same case goes for the Philippines, Manila is not the center of trade and commerce but Quezon City and Makati City.

The biggest problem of Palayan City is lack of development. We can degrade Palayan City but before that, we better transfer Nueva Ecija's capital to Cabanatuan City. Even my colleagues mistake the province's capital- they said Cabanatuan City. It looks like more the capital of Nueva Ecija.

[Waldenstrom]

There is a similar situation in Cavite. Bacoor-Imus-Dasma are the most urbanized but the seat of government is Trece Martirez City (which is less urbanized).

[barrera_marquez]

Hey, I like GearX's recommendation, why don't we put two stars in one province? At least, it is the only province in the Philippines that has two stars enclosed in a circle if realized (the stars enclosed in a circle is a famous legend for maps).

[barrera_marquez]

There is a similar situation in Cavite. Bacoor-Imus-Dasma are the most urbanized but the seat of government is Trece Martirez City (which is less urbanized).

If it does, then how come Bacoor, Imus and Dasmarinas didn't become cities? You mean Palayan 2?

[Waldenstrom]

^^ Bacoor-Imus-Dasma are qualified to be cities but people are not pushing for it due to many reasons. Trece Martirez City has still some agricultural lands but most of them were already converted to subdivions and industrial estates.

How did Palayan became a city & capital of the province?

[a s i a n a]

Anywhere as long as there is a seat of government.

[Colonel Burger]

^^ Bacoor-Imus-Dasma are qualified to be cities but people are not pushing for it due to many reasons. Trece Martirez City has still some agricultural lands but most of them were already converted to subdivions and industrial estates.

How did Palayan became a city & capital of the province?


Palayan Became a city because it was created as planned city just like Trece Martires in Cavite, Quezon City, Baguio, Samal and Manila.

The Capital of a province need not be urbanized or be the center of trade, commerce, industry.

If the Capitol is located in a locality, then that place is the capital because the provincial Government is located there. That is why they are moving the Provincial Capitol of Rizal in Antipolo because Antipolo is now the capital of Rizal.

So if the capitol is in Palayan, then that is the capital and it should remain there for many reasons, mostly Financial reasons.

[barrera_marquez]

Palayan Became a city because it was created as planned city just like Trece Martires in Cavite, Quezon City, Baguio, Samal and Manila.

The Capital of a province need not be urbanized or be the center of trade, commerce, industry.

If the Capitol is located in a locality, then that place is the capital because the provincial Government is located there. That is why they are moving the Provincial Capitol of Rizal in Antipolo because Antipolo is now the capital of Rizal.

So if the capitol is in Palayan, then that is the capital and it should remain there for many reasons, mostly Financial reasons.

There is a provincial capitol of Nueva Ecija in Cabanatuan City. Proof? Here:
http://www2.mozcom.com/~valmonte/cabanatuan/cabtour21.JPG

The old Nueva Ecija capitol. Hope that several government institutions of Nueva Ecija be transferred in Cabanatuan City. At least the institutions concerned with financial and commerce. They are much needed there and also to prevent Cabanatuan City from being independent if it does became a highly-urbanized city (it did a few years ago but was later returned to Component status).

What Palayan City lacks, in fact are police stations, fire stations (I never saw any!), hospitals and even markets! How can you ensure that we could develop Palayan City? It is one of the reasons why transferred to Cabanatuan City.

But in fairness, Palayan City is my hometown and I cannot remove that, and it is a good place for people who wants to live in a peaceful and a quiet environment.

But, why not absorb Palayan City to Cabanatuan City? Actually, I oppose this. Nueva Ecija's capital has been there for a long time. Not a good time to lose a city actually even if it looks like a municipality.

But why not let Nueva Ecija have two stars (literally, having two capitals), I think that two heads are better than one.

Anyway, is there somebody who has a seal of Palayan City? I saw it in their welcome arch but I never saw a digital version of it. I will put it in Wikipedia, only the flag is there, no city seals. Please upload it here, thanks!

[Mond87]

are there any photos of both cities? mejo naintriga kasi ako sa Cabanatuan... lagi kasing namemention sa Kasal, Kasali, Kasalo saka Sakal, Sakali, Saklolo... heheh... wala lang

[kevinb]

Let it be to have 2 capitals.

Palayan - Government & Institution Capital
Cabanatuan - Commercial Capital & Business center

:cheers:

Let it be this way. CamSur is like that, must I say. Pili as capital and Naga as commercial center.

If it does, then how come Bacoor, Imus and Dasmarinas didn't become cities? You mean Palayan 2?

The three towns are very qualified. In fact much more qualified than any fifth or fourth class city. Residents just don't want their towns be converted to cities because of taxes that will increase. Well it's just one of the reasons, but it's the single-most important reason to people living in Imus, Bacoor and Dasma.

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@barrera_marquez: Why the interest in this topic if you're from Pampanga? I sense a big importance of this to you. I'm just curious. :)

[barrera_marquez]

Let it be this way. CamSur is like that, must I say. Pili as capital and Naga as commercial center.



The three towns are very qualified. In fact much more qualified than any fifth or fourth class city. Residents just don't want their towns be converted to cities because of taxes that will increase. Well it's just one of the reasons, but it's the single-most important reason to people living in Imus, Bacoor and Dasma.

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@barrera_marquez: Why the interest in this topic if you're from Pampanga? I sense a big importance of this to you. I'm just curious. :)

It is my grandmother's hometown. I take my pity on her since when she is still from Palayan City (specifically from Barangay Santolan), imagine going to the capitol just to go to Cabanatuan City. She used to board passenger jeeps which doesn't even bother to take her. Not to mention the expensive fare of it (P17). A few weeks ago her temper ran out and she immediately transferred to Cabanatuan City when she bought a house there.

Obviously if you're a senior citizen, having the capitol near you is a great help.

[barrera_marquez]

are there any photos of both cities? mejo naintriga kasi ako sa Cabanatuan... lagi kasing namemention sa Kasal, Kasali, Kasalo saka Sakal, Sakali, Saklolo... heheh... wala lang

Your request will be granted:

Cabanatuan City
Mayor: Alvin Pangilinan Vergara

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/bc/Cabanatuan_City_Seal.PNG/100px-Cabanatuan_City_Seal.PNG

http://www2.mozcom.com/~valmonte/cabanatuan/cabtour01.JPG
Cabanatuan City Central Terminal

http://www2.mozcom.com/~valmonte/cabanatuan/cabtour08.JPG
Maharlika Highway

http://www2.mozcom.com/~valmonte/cabanatuan/cabtour02.JPG
Primavera Houses

http://www2.mozcom.com/~valmonte/cabanatuan/cabtour03.JPG
Lakewood City

http://www2.mozcom.com/~valmonte/cabanatuan/cabtour09.JPG
Maria Assumpta Seminary

http://www2.mozcom.com/~valmonte/cabanatuan/cabtour04.JPG
NE Pacific Mall

http://www2.mozcom.com/~valmonte/cabanatuan/cabtour23.JPG
Megacenter

http://www2.mozcom.com/~valmonte/cabanatuan/cabtour14.JPG
NE Mall

http://www2.mozcom.com/~valmonte/cabanatuan/cabtour07.JPG
McDonald's

http://www2.mozcom.com/~valmonte/cabanatuan/cabtour24.JPG
Cabanatuan City Public Market

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1a/Cabanatuan_prison_camp.JPG/250px-Cabanatuan_prison_camp.JPG
Cabanatuan City Prison Camp

Palayan City
Mayor: Romeo Capinpin, Jr.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/26/Palayan_City_Seal.PNG/100px-Palayan_City_Seal.PNG

http://www2.mozcom.com/~mic55/kapitolyo/kapitolyo01.jpg
Nueva Ecija capitol

http://www2.mozcom.com/~mic55/kapitolyo/kapitolyo33.jpg
Palayan City hills. Taken from the rooftop of the provincial capitol.

Actually, there are only a few pictures of Palayan City in the internet. Sorry, but going personally there is not a joke, it takes full three hours from San Fernando City or four hours from Manila! Image going there and you spend P400+ back-to-back just to take pictures.

[Mond87]

wow... u took all those pics? wow... nice effort...

[barrera_marquez]

wow... u took all those pics? wow... nice effort...

No, just got it from a website:

Cabanatuan City Pictures:
http://www2.mozcom.com/~valmonte/cabanatuan/

Palayan City Pictures:
http://www2.mozcom.com/~mic55/kapitolyo/index.html

Credits go to:
Mr. Ramon R. Valmonte

[Mond87]

honestly, im sorry if i voted for palayan... i actually don't know much about the two cities and the province. but as of my observation, parang matagal na kasing capital ang palayan. changing it back to cabanatuan will really take a long process and myt cost lots of money pa... my advice is this: just improve palayan city... i think it will be of more benefit to palayan and the whole province if it does so... tsaka pag dumami na ang mga businesses sa cabanatuan, tiyak na wala nang lugar yung ciudad na yun for gov't offices. kaya nga siguro linipat sa palayan to make room for commerce. it's the same thing as in Cam Sur, Legazpi city (the city hall is located in Albay District, w/c is not the business center of the city), United States, Brazil, etc... I guess, transportation must also be improved coz from what i see, it's only the transpo yung pinoproblema...yun lang ang masasabi ko...

[barrera_marquez]

honestly, im sorry if i voted for palayan... i actually don't know much about the two cities and the province. but as of my observation, parang matagal na kasing capital ang palayan. changing it back to cabanatuan will really take a long process and myt cost lots of money pa... my advice is this: just improve palayan city... i think it will be of more benefit to palayan and the whole province if it does so... tsaka pag dumami na ang mga businesses sa cabanatuan, tiyak na wala nang lugar yung ciudad na yun for gov't offices. kaya nga siguro linipat sa palayan to make room for commerce. it's the same thing as in Cam Sur, Legazpi city (the city hall is located in Albay District, w/c is not the business center of the city), United States, Brazil, etc... I guess, transportation must also be improved coz from what i see, it's only the transpo yung pinoproblema...yun lang ang masasabi ko...

Siguro nga hindi mo alam kung gaano kalala ang problema ng Palayan City. I can't blame you. Pero iniimbitahan kita na pasyalan ang Palayan City. At saka isa pa, bundukin iyong Palayan City at talagang walang business na magtatangkang mag-invest doon hanggang walang magandang reason. Hindi siya kulang sa tao, marami ngang may gustong magkaroon ng matinong business doon. Pero partida naman, may magandang hotel ang Palayan City. I will still call it our own Palayan City, hindi ko mai-aalis na doon ipinanganak ang lola ko kahit anong mangyari.

Isa pa, may malaking sementeryo sa Palayan City, kasinlaki ng sementeryo sa mga probinsya na ubod ng tao. Katabi ng Barangay Santolan ang sementeryong ito.

Pero may malaking lupa sa paanan ng bundok na zoned for agro-industrial. Sana ma-develop ang Palayan City para mag-ala Baguio City ito. May potential ang Palayan City sa totoo lang pero maraming political issues lang.

Kung made-develop ang Palayan City, baka maisipan ko pang magtayo ng business doon. Kung made-develop lang.

Hindi naman dapat lahat ng opisina ng gobyerno ng probinsya ng Nueva Ecija ay ililipat. Yung mga may kinalalaman lang sa pinansyal at komersyo. Sa Palayan City na lang si Governor Umali at ang iba pang basic services. Mas kailangan sila roon, wala nga akong nakitang police, fire stations at medical clinics/hospital doon.

Pero siguro tama ka, sorry rin sa pagboto sa Cabanatuan City. Dapat dalawa na lang silang maging capital ng Nueva Ecija pero problema ang communications kung magkakaganon. Tanging Cabanatuan City lang ang may broadband internet, wala ang Palayan City pero kailangan pa rin nila ng direct communications. Pati nga yata telepono problema pa sa Palayan City pati cellphone signal. Walang communications sa Palayan City, kailangang makabitan ang Palayan City ng communications bago ito mag-develop.

[icarusrising]

Carabao may be key to biofuel, says scientist

By Anselmo Roque
Central Luzon Desk
First Posted 23:02:00 01/26/2008
The Philippine Daily Inquirer

SCIENCE CITY OF MUÑOZ -- Don’t look now but the lowly carabao might yet hold the key to the commercial production of biofuel in the country.

The carabao, says a returning Filipino-American scientist, provides the model as well as the “mother liquor,” for the conversion of rice stubble and straw to ethanol, an alternative to crude oil-based fuels.

“The carabao is a paradigm in converting lignocellulose to ethanol,” said Dr. Fiorello Abenes, a professor emeritus of animal and veterinary sciences at CalPoly Pomona University in California.

“It has rumen fluid whose organisms can help transform rice stubble and straw and other biomass into bioethanol,” he said.

Bioethanol is a light alcohol produced by fermenting sugarcane, corn, cassava and nipa. It is one of the types of biofuel mandated for mixture with diesel and gasoline under the Biofuels Act.

The theoretical basis for this, which Abenes discussed in a lecture at the Institute of Graduate Studies at the Central Luzon State University here, was validated by experiments conducted at the Philippine Carabao Center (PCC).

“The experiments confirmed the ability of the model to produce ethanol using rumen microorganisms as first stage fermenters, followed by yeasts in the final fermenting stage,” he said.

Abenes, who obtained his doctoral degree in animal science at the University of Connecticut in 1975, worked for many years as regional swine specialist in Alberta, Canada, and at the Dairy Training and Research Institute of the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations before moving to CalPoly Pomona University.

He retired at 55 years old in that university in 2005 and is now engaged in various private enterprises in the United States.

Abenes graduated with the degree of agricultural education, cum laude, from the CLSU in 1969. He was among the first Filipinos staying abroad who responded to the government’s Balik-Scientist program in 1975.

“We can extract the rumen fluid from carabao and multiply them many times for commercial production of ethanol from biomass,” he told the Inquirer before returning to the States on Jan. 18.

In his lecture at the CLSU, Abenes said the carabao is a model for a way to convert lignocellulose to ethanol. Lignocellulose is the most common molecule on earth and is found in all plants.

Converting this molecule to alcohol using purified enzymes, chemical and physical hydrolysis (or chemical breakdown) is too expensive under Philippine conditions, Abenes said.

“The carabao is known for its ability to subsist on low quality forage, including rice stubble and straw. This ability is conferred upon this animal by the rumen that digests cellulose and hemicellulose, turning them into methane and volatile fatty acids (VFAs),” Abenes said.

The methane, he said, is expelled when the carabao belches while the VFAs are parceled between the host animal and the microorganisms.

“The host animal uses the VFAs as a source of energy. The microorganisms use them to support its life functions by synthesizing glucose,” he said.

Abenes said the feasibility of the method, as suggested by the carabao paradigm, has been validated in experiments conducted by the PCC.

He said the rumen fluid can turn lignocellulose into fermentable carbohydrates and the fermentable carbohydrates can be turned into alcohol using common yeast.

Abenes, who conducted the experiment with PCC scientist Perla Florendo, said because of the promising results of the experiment they submitted a paper to a national science and technology contest in energy research and development.

“We have no illusion about winning any prize due to limited scope of the project but its submission at least documents that the first research in this area was conducted at PCC and CLSU,” Abenes said.

He said preliminary calculations based on theoretical models have indicated that as much as 117 liters of alcohol can be distilled from 1,000 kg of biomass materials.

Given the natural abundance of biomass, the use of 85 percent ethanol for flexible fuel vehicles (FFV) may be possible, he said.

There is now a technology for the conversion of vehicles using engine fuel to FFV at an affordable cost, he said.

The mandated minimum 1 percent biodiesel blend and 5 percent bioethanol blend in all diesel and gasoline fuels have become controversial of late because of the statement of Nobel Prize winner in chemistry, Dr. Hartmut Michel.

Michel said investment in biofuel development is “counterproductive” as producing biofuel would sometimes entail clearing a forest that would destroy biodiversity and emit more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.

Sen. Miriam Defensor-Santiago, author of the Biofuels Act, sought more government oversight powers over biofuel development, saying it could adversely affect the country’s ability to produce its own food.

She said biofuel production, being land-based, will eventually compete with food.

In his talk here, Abenes said the carabao model for production of ethanol could be an alternative as it uses rice straw and other biomass.

He said the experience of Brazil, the oft-cited model for a thriving ethanol industry, cannot be replicated in this country.

Brazil, he said, has a vast tract of land for sugarcane production. There are less than 25 persons per square kilometer of land in Brazil compared to the Philippines’ 300 persons per square kilometer. Brazil, the fifth largest country in the world, has a land area of 8,511,965 square kilometers. The Philippines’ land area is 300,439 square kilometers.

Abenes said the commercial production of ethanol using the carabao model can involve residents of rural areas. They can be part of the factory assembly line by performing the tasks involved in the digestion process (in bioreactor containers) of the biomass material with the use of the rumen fluid that will be supplied to them.

The alcohol from the “bacterial beer” collected from the participating rural residents can be further refined through a solar distiller, he said.

The distiller is now being designed by engineers from CLSU, he said.

Abenes also said residents who will be involved in this project can have added income, making the project a boost to rural economy

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/regions/view/20080126-115028/Carabao-may-be-key-to-biofuel-says-scientist

[barrera_marquez]

Carabao may be key to biofuel, says scientist

By Anselmo Roque
Central Luzon Desk
First Posted 23:02:00 01/26/2008
The Philippine Daily Inquirer

SCIENCE CITY OF MUÑOZ -- Don’t look now but the lowly carabao might yet hold the key to the commercial production of biofuel in the country.

The carabao, says a returning Filipino-American scientist, provides the model as well as the “mother liquor,” for the conversion of rice stubble and straw to ethanol, an alternative to crude oil-based fuels.

“The carabao is a paradigm in converting lignocellulose to ethanol,” said Dr. Fiorello Abenes, a professor emeritus of animal and veterinary sciences at CalPoly Pomona University in California.

“It has rumen fluid whose organisms can help transform rice stubble and straw and other biomass into bioethanol,” he said.

Bioethanol is a light alcohol produced by fermenting sugarcane, corn, cassava and nipa. It is one of the types of biofuel mandated for mixture with diesel and gasoline under the Biofuels Act.

The theoretical basis for this, which Abenes discussed in a lecture at the Institute of Graduate Studies at the Central Luzon State University here, was validated by experiments conducted at the Philippine Carabao Center (PCC).

“The experiments confirmed the ability of the model to produce ethanol using rumen microorganisms as first stage fermenters, followed by yeasts in the final fermenting stage,” he said.

Abenes, who obtained his doctoral degree in animal science at the University of Connecticut in 1975, worked for many years as regional swine specialist in Alberta, Canada, and at the Dairy Training and Research Institute of the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations before moving to CalPoly Pomona University.

He retired at 55 years old in that university in 2005 and is now engaged in various private enterprises in the United States.

Abenes graduated with the degree of agricultural education, cum laude, from the CLSU in 1969. He was among the first Filipinos staying abroad who responded to the government’s Balik-Scientist program in 1975.

“We can extract the rumen fluid from carabao and multiply them many times for commercial production of ethanol from biomass,” he told the Inquirer before returning to the States on Jan. 18.

In his lecture at the CLSU, Abenes said the carabao is a model for a way to convert lignocellulose to ethanol. Lignocellulose is the most common molecule on earth and is found in all plants.

Converting this molecule to alcohol using purified enzymes, chemical and physical hydrolysis (or chemical breakdown) is too expensive under Philippine conditions, Abenes said.

“The carabao is known for its ability to subsist on low quality forage, including rice stubble and straw. This ability is conferred upon this animal by the rumen that digests cellulose and hemicellulose, turning them into methane and volatile fatty acids (VFAs),” Abenes said.

The methane, he said, is expelled when the carabao belches while the VFAs are parceled between the host animal and the microorganisms.

“The host animal uses the VFAs as a source of energy. The microorganisms use them to support its life functions by synthesizing glucose,” he said.

Abenes said the feasibility of the method, as suggested by the carabao paradigm, has been validated in experiments conducted by the PCC.

He said the rumen fluid can turn lignocellulose into fermentable carbohydrates and the fermentable carbohydrates can be turned into alcohol using common yeast.

Abenes, who conducted the experiment with PCC scientist Perla Florendo, said because of the promising results of the experiment they submitted a paper to a national science and technology contest in energy research and development.

“We have no illusion about winning any prize due to limited scope of the project but its submission at least documents that the first research in this area was conducted at PCC and CLSU,” Abenes said.

He said preliminary calculations based on theoretical models have indicated that as much as 117 liters of alcohol can be distilled from 1,000 kg of biomass materials.

Given the natural abundance of biomass, the use of 85 percent ethanol for flexible fuel vehicles (FFV) may be possible, he said.

There is now a technology for the conversion of vehicles using engine fuel to FFV at an affordable cost, he said.

The mandated minimum 1 percent biodiesel blend and 5 percent bioethanol blend in all diesel and gasoline fuels have become controversial of late because of the statement of Nobel Prize winner in chemistry, Dr. Hartmut Michel.

Michel said investment in biofuel development is “counterproductive” as producing biofuel would sometimes entail clearing a forest that would destroy biodiversity and emit more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.

Sen. Miriam Defensor-Santiago, author of the Biofuels Act, sought more government oversight powers over biofuel development, saying it could adversely affect the country’s ability to produce its own food.

She said biofuel production, being land-based, will eventually compete with food.

In his talk here, Abenes said the carabao model for production of ethanol could be an alternative as it uses rice straw and other biomass.

He said the experience of Brazil, the oft-cited model for a thriving ethanol industry, cannot be replicated in this country.

Brazil, he said, has a vast tract of land for sugarcane production. There are less than 25 persons per square kilometer of land in Brazil compared to the Philippines’ 300 persons per square kilometer. Brazil, the fifth largest country in the world, has a land area of 8,511,965 square kilometers. The Philippines’ land area is 300,439 square kilometers.

Abenes said the commercial production of ethanol using the carabao model can involve residents of rural areas. They can be part of the factory assembly line by performing the tasks involved in the digestion process (in bioreactor containers) of the biomass material with the use of the rumen fluid that will be supplied to them.

The alcohol from the “bacterial beer” collected from the participating rural residents can be further refined through a solar distiller, he said.

The distiller is now being designed by engineers from CLSU, he said.

Abenes also said residents who will be involved in this project can have added income, making the project a boost to rural economy

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/regions/view/20080126-115028/Carabao-may-be-key-to-biofuel-says-scientist

As long as walang animal cruelty of kung ano pa mang malawakang pagpatay sa mga hayop ay aprub ang proyektong iyan. Isa pa, hindi ba kalabaw din ang nasa seal ng Nueva Ecija, Cabanatuan City at Palayan City? Aba, bagay nga ang proyektong iyan sa Nueva Ecija at sakto sa Science City of Munoz pa!

[papable]

Siguro nga hindi mo alam kung gaano kalala ang problema ng Palayan City. I can't blame you. Pero iniimbitahan kita na pasyalan ang Palayan City. At saka isa pa, bundukin iyong Palayan City at talagang walang business na magtatangkang mag-invest doon hanggang walang magandang reason. Hindi siya kulang sa tao, marami ngang may gustong magkaroon ng matinong business doon. Pero partida naman, may magandang hotel ang Palayan City. I will still call it our own Palayan City, hindi ko mai-aalis na doon ipinanganak ang lola ko kahit anong mangyari.

Isa pa, may malaking sementeryo sa Palayan City, kasinlaki ng sementeryo sa mga probinsya na ubod ng tao. Katabi ng Barangay Santolan ang sementeryong ito.

Pero may malaking lupa sa paanan ng bundok na zoned for agro-industrial. Sana ma-develop ang Palayan City para mag-ala Baguio City ito. May potential ang Palayan City sa totoo lang pero maraming political issues lang.

Kung made-develop ang Palayan City, baka maisipan ko pang magtayo ng business doon. Kung made-develop lang.

Hindi naman dapat lahat ng opisina ng gobyerno ng probinsya ng Nueva Ecija ay ililipat. Yung mga may kinalalaman lang sa pinansyal at komersyo. Sa Palayan City na lang si Governor Umali at ang iba pang basic services. Mas kailangan sila roon, wala nga akong nakitang police, fire stations at medical clinics/hospital doon.

Pero siguro tama ka, sorry rin sa pagboto sa Cabanatuan City. Dapat dalawa na lang silang maging capital ng Nueva Ecija pero problema ang communications kung magkakaganon. Tanging Cabanatuan City lang ang may broadband internet, wala ang Palayan City pero kailangan pa rin nila ng direct communications. Pati nga yata telepono problema pa sa Palayan City pati cellphone signal. Walang communications sa Palayan City, kailangang makabitan ang Palayan City ng communications bago ito mag-develop.

I think it is better to stay the capitol at palayan. Palayan was chosen as the new capital most likely because the officials then saw the potential of the area to be developed and the need to decongest cabanatuan city. with the new capital, a new urban layout can be well planned and development can be dispersed to a wider area. However, i also agree that this transfer should have been immediately accompanied by appropriate infrastructure development (roads, bridges, communications, more tertiary education, etc.) so that the city would not looked like a "deserted" one. Ive been to the capitol and it looked magnificent. There was also a new convention center, but it seemed to be unused most of the time, due probably to the lack of support facilities like hotels (or night life?). the government should have prioritized infrastructure and economic investments first before this one. IMO lang po.

[Colonel Burger]

There is a provincial capitol of Nueva Ecija in Cabanatuan City. Proof? Here:
http://www2.mozcom.com/~valmonte/cabanatuan/cabtour21.JPG

The old Nueva Ecija capitol. Hope that several government institutions of Nueva Ecija be transferred in Cabanatuan City. At least the institutions concerned with financial and commerce. They are much needed there and also to prevent Cabanatuan City from being independent if it does became a highly-urbanized city (it did a few years ago but was later returned to Component status).

What Palayan City lacks, in fact are police stations, fire stations (I never saw any!), hospitals and even markets! How can you ensure that we could develop Palayan City? It is one of the reasons why transferred to Cabanatuan City.


But in fairness, Palayan City is my hometown and I cannot remove that, and it is a good place for people who wants to live in a peaceful and a quiet environment.

But, why not absorb Palayan City to Cabanatuan City? Actually, I oppose this. Nueva Ecija's capital has been there for a long time. Not a good time to lose a city actually even if it looks like a municipality.

But why not let Nueva Ecija have two stars (literally, having two capitals), I think that two heads are better than one.

Anyway, is there somebody who has a seal of Palayan City? I saw it in their welcome arch but I never saw a digital version of it. I will put it in Wikipedia, only the flag is there, no city seals. Please upload it here, thanks!

The Province of Nueva Ecija just spent 200M++ for a new provincial capitol in Palayan City. There is no sense in having 2 capitals. and there is no sense in moving it back to cabanatuan either.

moving out the capital from palayan will futher worsen its situation. You all claim that nobody wants to do business or even go to Palayan that is because Palayan does not have the population or the transients around the place who brings in money and investments in the locality.

That capitol can be the stimulus because the people would come and go the the capitol to do their business with the government. In other words, that capitol gives the people the reason to go to Palayan, and when many people come and go, money will come in and investments will pour in.

[barrera_marquez]

The Province of Nueva Ecija just spent 200M++ for a new provincial capitol in Palayan City. There is no sense in having 2 capitals. and there is no sense in moving it back to cabanatuan either.

moving out the capital from palayan will futher worsen its situation. You all claim that nobody wants to do business or even go to Palayan that is because Palayan does not have the population or the transients around the place who brings in money and investments in the locality.

That capitol can be the stimulus because the people would come and go the the capitol to do their business with the government. In other words, that capitol gives the people the reason to go to Palayan, and when many people come and go, money will come in and investments will pour in.

then how come there is still no development there. i heard political reasons are to blame.

by the way, palayan city has a potential to be the baguio city of central luzon. believe me, it's mountainous there and cold, could be the next baguio city and tagaytay city.

fyi: there are no pharmacies there, the nearest is in cabanatuan city proper, even hospitals.

[Colonel Burger]

The Capital of a Province or a Country need not be the most developed city or the most urbanized or the most famous locality.

eg. The City of Albany, the capital of state of New York, compare it with Buffalo or New York City.

or

The City of Juneau, the capital city of the state of Alaska. It only has a population of 30,987, whilst the largest city in Alaska, Anchorage where the center of trade, commerce and tourism is has a population of 359,180.

[barrera_marquez]

The Capital of a Province or a Country need not be the most developed city or the most urbanized or the most famous locality.

eg. The City of Albany, the capital of state of New York, compare it with Buffalo or New York City.

or

The City of Juneau, the capital city of the state of Alaska. It only has a population of 30,987, whilst the largest city in Alaska, Anchorage where the center of trade, commerce and tourism is has a population of 359,180.

I didn't said anything that a capital should be the most urbanized. What I said is that Palayan City has the potential to be the Baguio City of Central Luzon. It is sitting on a mountain and it has a lot of zoned areas for residential and industrial zones and oh yeah, it's cold too.

We just need to look around to see the problems of the city and solve for it to develop. Palayan City is going nowhere with the present situation, we need to do something about it.

[Matteo]

anyone got photos of gapan?
last time i was there i was about 12 yrs old visiting my grandpa

[barrera_marquez]

Okay, through massive research on the net. It has been found out that Nueva Ecija has already two capitals, even before we started throwing words here.

Both Cabanatuan City and Palayan City have the Nueva Ecija provincial capitols. Both cities cannot function without the other. Example, Cabanatuan City, and the rest of Nueva Ecija cannot do its job since it takes government support from Palayan City. On the other hand, Palayan City cannot do also its job since Cabanatuan City is the center of trade and commerce meaning Palayan City, and the rest of Nueva Ecija relies on Cabanatuan City for financial reasons.

Okay, if there are objections, please continue posting but there is no need for arguing, there are two capitals in Nueva Ecija. Only Palayan City has a greater control on Nueva Ecija than Cabanatuan City but still, it is interesting to know that there are two capitols and stars in Nueva Ecija.

[barrera_marquez]

Okey, mukhang halatang hindi pa nga city ang Gapan noong huli kang pumunta. Pero, ito, may nakuha ako sa Internet na pictures ng Gapan City. Pero suggestion ko talaga sa iyo na pumunta ka sa Gapan City, mas malapit nga iyon kaysa sa Cabanatuan City. Kami hilo kapag papunta ako doon mula Manila. Alam mo naman, gala ako.

http://www.kibaka.org/2007%20Images/20/2.%20buong%20pamilya%20ng%20mahihirap,%20sa%20Gapan,%20N.Ecija,%20namamalimos%20sa%20highway.JPG

Wala na akong iba pang makita, sorry.

[Pinoy_ako]

^^

Gapan is one of the heritage cities that is comparable to towns and cities like San Miguel, Silay, Carcar, Taal and the others. Maybe we can start documenting the historic structures in the town and promote it as a place that deserves to be protected.

A number of historic homes are being torn down, but there are still many remaining ones.

[barrera_marquez]

^^

Gapan is one of the heritage cities that is comparable to towns and cities like San Miguel, Silay, Carcar, Taal and the others. Maybe we can start documenting the historic structures in the town and promote it as a place that deserves to be protected.

A number of historic homes are being torn down, but there are still many remaining ones.

Correction, Gapan is not a town, it is a city. Gapan City to be exact.

[tracymack]

Correction, Gapan is not a town, it is a city. Gapan City to be exact.

Really? Is it like Palayan there?

[barrera_marquez]

Really? Is it like Palayan there?

No, Gapan City is actually better. The city really looks like a city.

Anyway, I have found another reason why investors are keeping their eyes away from Palayan City, NPAs! The New People's Army lurks in Palayan City, that is why there is a military camp there plus, according to the residents themselves, the governor hired soldiers as his bodyguards.

Anyway, do you want Cabanatuan City to be Nueva Ecija's capital with that thing there in Palayan City?

[tracymack]

^^NPA? I wouldn't want them anywhere near our city. Good thing there are no NPAs in Urdaneta City and Pangasinan. I don't want them asking for revolutionary tax. Tax being paid to the government is already enough of a burden. :D

[barrera_marquez]

^^NPA? I wouldn't want them anywhere near our city. Good thing there are no NPAs in Urdaneta City and Pangasinan. I don't want them asking for revolutionary tax. Tax being paid to the government is already enough of a burden. :D

I didn't saw any of them. The residents just said it and that is why Governor Umali and Mayor Capinpin hired soldiers for their security.

Also that is the reason why I advocate transferring the capital of Nueva Ecija to Cabanatuan City, that is safer there.

Hopefully, those nuts will be removed in our province.

[tracymack]

^^ I was about to say that it's ok to have NPA's around so long as they don't cause harm to the residents but even if this is the case there's still that uneasy feeling.

[Matteo]

i just realized thats a very sad photo up there ^^
baby in hand, begging for money, the woman doesnt even have shoes on her feet. :(

[tracymack]

^^Yes, it is sad. :(

[barrera_marquez]

The picture is from Gapan City and the topic is about poverty.

[leechtat]

i just realized thats a very sad photo up there ^^
baby in hand, begging for money, the woman doesnt even have shoes on her feet. :(

yes.. that's what i noticed as well when i look at that photo.. ay, how sad... does nueva ecija have pabahay projects for the poor?

[barrera_marquez]

yes.. that's what i noticed as well when i look at that photo.. ay, how sad... does nueva ecija have pabahay projects for the poor?

may bahay siguro sila kaya lang wala namang trabaho. useless ang bahay na sarili kung walang trabaho whereas kung may trabaho ka, pwedeng umupa ka na lang ng bahay.

[Pinoy_ako]

Really? Is it like Palayan there?

Palayan does not lie along the main road of the province, unlike Gapan and the former capital, Cabanatuan. It lies almost near the foothills of the Sierra Madre Mountains.

[barrera_marquez]

Palayan does not lie along the main road of the province, unlike Gapan and the former capital, Cabanatuan. It lies almost near the foothills of the Sierra Madre Mountains.

Correction, Palayan City doesn't lie on foothills, it is on the mountains itself. It doesn't belong to the main road of the province which is Maharlika Highway. It lies on Cabanatuan-Bongabon Road.

[Pinoy_ako]

anyone got photos of gapan?
last time i was there i was about 12 yrs old visiting my grandpa

Saan ka sa Gapan?

[lochinvar]

"The New People's Army lurks in Palayan City, that is why there is a military camp there."

Fort Magsaysay was established long ago even before Sison and Buscayno started the NPA.

[barrera_marquez]

"The New People's Army lurks in Palayan City, that is why there is a military camp there."

Fort Magsaysay was established long ago even before Sison and Buscayno started the NPA.

Sorry, I didn't thought of that.

By the way, Governor Umali is doing his office jobs on Cabanatuan City 2x a day. But he only shows up on Palayan City every Monday. I found out that thing this afternoon when I was in the old capitol compound to witness the Trabahong Umali Job Fair.

[allan_dude]

Pantabangan touted ‘Little Baguio’ to promote tourism

BY LIAM ANACLETO
NORTHERN PHILIPPINE TIMES (http://northphiltimes.blogspot.com/)


PANTABANGAN, Nueva Ecija – This mountain town situated 176 km north of Manila – home to the giant Pantabangan Dam and touted by local tourism officials as a miniature version of the country’s summer capital – is being primed as premier tourism destination in the province following the creation by the provincial government of the Pantabangan Eco-tourism Development Committee.

The creation of PEDC was contained in Executive Order 6 issued by Nueva Ecija Gov. Aurelio Umali, said Mayor Romeo Borja.

Borja, a member of the committee, said the PEDC has been tasked to perform such functions: evaluate all existing tourism programs and create, recommend, implement and supervise viable tourism programs.

Borja said the town has natural sceneries, citing the dams of Pantabangan, Aya, the Masiway as well as the Casecnan Dam which has resorts and facilities that could perk up the domestic tourism industry.

Casecnan Dam is connected to the Pantabangan Dam by a 26-km. underground tunnel which diverts water from the Casecnan and Taang rivers to Pantabangan. The tunnel is considered the longest such tunnel in Asia.

Aside from Borja, the committee is also composed of the mayor of the nearby town of Rizal, the chairman of the tourism committee of the Sangguniang Panlalawigan, the regional director of the Department of Tourism in Central Luzon, representatives from the National Irrigation Administration and its Upper Pampanga river Integrated Irrigation Systems (UPRIIS) and the Casecnan Multipurpose Irrigation and Power Project, the FirstGen Hydro-Power Corp., the Department of Environment and Natural Resources and the local environment and natural resources office (ENRO) and offices of the provincial government and a media representative.

Emisonia Gante, municipal tourism officer said aside from offering irrigation and hydro-electric powers to Central Luzon, Pantabangan has vast untapped potentials for eco-tourism, citing that the town is a virtual “hidden paradise.”

She added the lake is one of the cleanest lakes not only in the Philippines but throughout Asia. The Dam’s water reservoir, she said, is an inviting place for boating, fishing and other sports activities such as rafting, game fishing, jet skiing, rock climbing, wake boarding and rappelling. Gante said the place has a climate comparable to Baguio and thus, can be called “Little Baguio.” The town also boasts of one of the best hotels in the country – Best View Hotel – where President Arroyo even slept during one of her out-of-town visits.

The town also plays hosts to migratory wild ducks from China during the months of October to February.

[Matteo]

Saan ka sa Gapan?

my grandpa lived somewhere in, i think san isidro, something.
pero nagpunta kami sa gapan to shop

[Pinoy_ako]

^^

If you are coming in from the Cagayan Valley Road, Gapan is really the last "shopping center" on your way to nearby San Isidro. It is also the jeepney terminal for the southern towns. I know somebody is making the history of San Isidro, but I don't know if he is going to publish it. If you are from San Isidro, that is one book worth waiting for. Does your grandfather live near the river?

[Matteo]

im not sure. i only lived there for like, a summer.
i forgot the location. sto cristo, san isidro something was the address.i remember that. he used to have like a rice mill business of some sort and pigs and poultry back in the day. he's dead now

[Ydlar]

Who here resides near/in Cabanatuan or Cabiao area?

[barrera_marquez]

Who here resides near/in Cabanatuan or Cabiao area?

me, i go there occasionally, why?

[Sinjin P.]

Robinsons Land FY2007 Investors Briefing (Dec 2007)

http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/1882/robyl8.jpg

[allan_dude]

^^Article from Cocktales (http://www.cocktales.com.ph/index.php?s=Robinsons+%2B+cabanatuan) by Victor C. Agustin

The planned Robinsons mall in Cabanatuan will be connected to the existing and bigger NE Mall in that city, with Robinsons planning to open and operate its own department store, supermarket, Handyman hardware and appliance shop within the three-story “annex.”

[tracymack]

^^ So it's more of an annex to the NE Pacific Mall? Just the department store, supermarket & handyman? How about independent (non-Robinsons) shops?

[Sinjin P.]

^ Probably there'd be a few. The planned Robinsons in Cabanatuan, at 17,000 square meters, will be of the same size to the existing Robinsons in Cebu (17,733 sq.m.) and we have here all those (department store, supermarket, Handyman hardware and appliance shop) plus 50 tenants. ;)

[tracymack]

^^I see. I've been to Robinsons Cebu. I stayed at Holiday Plaza. I think it's also near Mango Square/Mall.

[Pinoy_ako]

Who here resides near/in Cabanatuan or Cabiao area?

San Juan Sur

[allan_dude]

First Gen hires Austrian firm for Pantabangan rehab

By DONNABELLE L. GATDULA
The Philippine Star

First Gen Hydro Power Corp., a wholly-owned subsidiary of Lopez-controlled First Gen Corp., has tapped the services of VA Tech Hydro (GmbH) for the refurbishment and upgrade works for the newly-acquired Pantabangan hydroelectric power plants in Nueva Ecija.

In a disclosure to the Philippine Stock Exchange (PSE), First Gen Hydro said the project will enable the Pantabangan facility to extend its lifespan by another 25 years.

This project, the company said, will also improve plant efficiency and performance by increasing capacity by approximately 18 megawatts (mw).

Austria-based VA Tech hydro is a leading global supplier of turnkey electro-mechanical equipment for hydropower plants. It is also engaged in the construction of new hydroelectric power stations and rehabilitation and upgrade of existing plants.

Completed in 1977, the 100-mw two-unit Pantabangan power plant has been in service for more than 30 years without having undergone a major overhaul.

The project involves refurbishing the machines one year apart , with the first unit scheduled between July and December 2009, and the second unit expected to be completed by December 2010.

The Pantabangan plant is the first major power facilty of the National Power Corp. (Napocor) sold by the Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management Corp. (PSALM).

It is also the first among Napocor’s privatized assets to undergo a major refurbishment and upgrade.

The refurbishment and upgrade project signals the implementation of the initial phase of First Gen Hydro’s expansion program, which includes investing in additional units for each of the Pantabangan-Masiway hydroelectric power plant to increase their combined capacity by 78 mw.

The Pantabangan-Masiway expansion program is in line with First Gen’s vision to be a world-class energy provider and to provide clean and reliable energy for the Philippines.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryId=109406

[allan_dude]

N. Ecija crime rate drops 40 percent

By Anselmo Roque
Philippine Daily Inquirer (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/regions/view/20080325-126404/N-Ecija-crime-rate-drops-40-percent)


CABANATUAN CITY – The cooperation of civilian volunteers with policemen has led to a drop in the crime rate in Nueva Ecija for the past two months, the province’s top police official said.

Senior Supt. Napoleon Taas said 140 people with warrants had been arrested since January. Among them were two most wanted suspects and the main suspect in the March 5 murder of a Japanese.

Taas said the number of index crimes, such as murder, homicide, physical injury and robbery and theft, dropped by 40 percent – from 116 cases recorded from Jan. 11 to March 19 last year to only 69 this year.

The number of unsolved crimes dropped by 43 percent, he said, “due to our relentless effort and the cooperation of our men, plus the assistance of civilian volunteers.”

He attributed the “success” in the war on criminality to the national PNP’s Mamang Pulis program. Initiated by PNP chief Director General Avelino Razon, the program requires policemen to be more visible.

Owing to his background in intelligence and IT, Taas, a graduate of the US Military Academy, has put up two wireless routers at the provincial police headquarters for unlimited connectivity, computers to each of the 32 police stations, and three mobile groups in the province.

These stations will be provided with Internet connection, he said. In an interview with a radio station in Manila, Taas said 80 percent of all police stations in the province were already connected while the rest will have their connection this month.

He said the provincial police office also had its own website (http://1pnp.jot.com). All police stations have working e-mail addresses.

[allan_dude]

P470 M infra dev’t for Ecija town

By Joan Capuna
(http://northphiltimes.blogspot.com/2008/03/more-news-nueva-ecija.html)
PANTABANGAN, Nueva Ecija – Around P470.7 million worth of projects is in the works in this town, triggering an infrastructure boom in what is billed as the province’s “Little Baguio.”

Mayor Romeo Borja Sr. said of the almost half-billion projects in the radar of the municipal government, half or P266.7 million are on-going projects.
The biggest is the construction of the new municipal building fronting the old municipal hall costing P70 million.

The new municipal hall, which is funded through a loan from the Philippine National Bank, is now 50 percent complete. It is expected to be completed in October.

Borja said road concreting of the 2.7 km Malbang Road, worth P30 million is now complete while those of the P40-million, 3.5 km Conversion Road, the P29-million, 2.8 km Ganduz-Sampaloc Road and the P15-million, 1.2 km Cadaclan-Napon-Napon Road are in various stages of completion. Base preparations have also been completed for the P25-million, two-km Marikit Road as well as the two-km East Poblacion Road.

He said the municipal government is also constructing two to four-classroom schoolbuildings in Barangays East Poblacion, San Juan, Poblacion West, Marikit and Malbang and a Health Center in Villarica which will service the adjacent barangays of Malbang and Liberty.

Henry Pascual, acting municipal planning and development coordinator, said construction activities are now going on without let-up in this town, which is being hyped as a miniature version of the country’s summer capital owing to its relatively cold climate and for being a potential tourist mecca.

Borja said the municipal government is negotiating a P40-million loan for the provision of potable water systems in Barangays Liberty, Malbang, Villarica, East Poblacion and West Poblacion.

The Sangguniang Bayan has approved the loan package which would enable 2,500 families to avail of potable drinking water.

Borja said that at present, local residents only buy mineral for their drinking needs since the main water lines installed by the National Irrigation Administration are not suited for drinking purposes because these are made up of asbestos which is known to cause cancer.

The lack of drinking water for residents is considered an irony as the town hosts the mammoth Pantabangan Dam which supplies hydroelectric water to around 102,000 hectares of agricultural lands in Central Luzon.

Another loan worth P70 million is being worked out for the Special Education Fund (SEF) of the municipality to provide for facilities in all schools in the town.

The local government, Borja added, is also negotiating with the Japanese government for P54-million in grants for construction of farm-to-market roads and with the Department of Agriculture for installation of water pumps worth P70,000 each.

[Asturiano]

i used to live talavera just 15 minutes drive from cabanatuan city

[barrera_marquez]

Sabi nila Nueva Ecija is the "Rice Bowl of the Philippines" pero ngayong nagkakaubusan ng palay, hindi malaman kung sapat ang aanihin sa susunod na buwan.

Isa pa, kapag rice shortage ba, sa NFA lang iyon o lahatan pati commercial rice millers kasi parang napapansin ko mabilis maubos ang NFA pero yung commercial parang walang pinagbago sa presyo.

[Asturiano]

Nueva ecija used to be the rice bowl of the country but now the province of Isabel has surpassed Nueva ecija as the main producer of rice in the country.

[Asturiano]

Nueva Ecija used to be the rice bowl of the country but since then it has lost its title because the province of Isabela has surpassed the province in term of rice production

[barrera_marquez]

Nueva Ecija used to be the rice bowl of the country but since then it has lost its title because the province of Isabela has surpassed the province in term of rice production

Last year, the news was somewhat funny. The water dropped in Magat Dam and rice production halted. One of the reasons of the rice crisis here.

[Asturiano]

one of the reason being is that our country didn't have a lot of land to plant rice. our harvest is just too small to feed a population of more than 80 millions peoples all dependent on single diet which is rice, I think we should look at the alternatives diet such as corn, sweet potato, and wheat which is the diet of european and american.

[barrera_marquez]

one of the reason being is that our country didn't have a lot of land to plant rice. our harvest is just too small to feed a population of more than 80 millions peoples all dependent on single diet which is rice, I think we should look at the alternatives diet such as corn, sweet potato, and wheat which is the diet of european and american.

two solutions for this problem:
learn to eat bread in every meal and reduce rice consumption (mataas na ang tinapay, short-term lang ito)
o
bawasan ang paglilibang (alam niyo na iyon! :))

[Asturiano]

We can substitute rice for bread and corn and still have problem because the population keeps growing. We can only eliminates the food crisis if we maintain a population that our country can support. if the government want a long term solution we need to target the core of the problem the population. By controlling the population we can reduce poverty and improved the economy which mean better standard of living for all of us.

[barrera_marquez]

We can substitute rice for bread and corn and still have problem because the population keeps growing. We can only eliminates the food crisis if we maintain a population that our country can support. if the government want a long term solution we need to target the core of the problem the population. By controlling the population we can reduce poverty and improved the economy which mean better standard of living for all of us.

sabi ng simbahan, hindi raw population ang problema, mismanagement. ang problema, tinatakpan ng simbahan ang tunay na problema. kaya kung patuloy na magmamatigas ito, kahit gaano kaganda ang management natin, wala pa rin kung patuloy namang lumalaki ang population. hindi naman sila sang-ayon sa pagpatay o giyera para ma-manage ang populasyon. yeah, wars curb population growth and the population itself.

[barrera_marquez]

Lawyer Alejandro R. Abesamis, provincial administrator and legal officer, called as "disruptive" the acts of Vice Gov. Edward Thomas F. Joson in canceling last March 14 the appointments of six chiefs of offices appointed by Gov. Aurelio M. Umali and replacing them with former Joson administration officials.

Gov. Aurelio M. Umali went on leave to go the United States and Singapore from March 12 to 25 for personal reasons. The leave was authorized by Interior and Local Government Sec. Ronaldo V. Puno.

In Umali's absence, Joson took over as acting governor last March 13. The following day, he issued 20 memoranda canceling or suspending Umali's appointees and reinstating former chiefs of offices.

Among the Umali appointees affected were Leoncio A. Daniel, OIC of the provincial social welfare and development office who was replaced by Zoilo Pangilinan; Eng. Vicente Santos, OIC, provincial engineer, replaced by Eng. Edgardo Gabata; Eng. Roque Roberto Leoncio, OIC, provincial general services office replaced by Arthur Serdeña; Ma. Cristina G. Roxas, OIC, provincial accounting office, replaced by Romeo del Mundo; Mary Grace L. Irabagon, OIC, provincial tourism office, replaced by Annaliza A. Eugenio; Eng. Maximo A. Borja, OIC, provincial environment and natural resources office, replaced by Jose N. Quiseng

Abesamis admitted that Joson had the legal capacity to "automatically exercise the powers and perform the duties" of the governor but questioned what he termed the "disruptive effect" of Joson's actions.

He said that official business transactions stopped arising from the confusion as to which official to follow, especially in the payments of salaries.

Abesamis said that Joson, as acting governor, was prohibited by the Local Government Code from exercising the power to appoint, suspend or dismiss employees which can only be done if the period of temporary incapacity of the governor exceeds 30 working days.

He advised various department heads and employees to maintain the status quo ante while awaiting the result of a legal inquiry that he made to the Department of Interior and Local Government and the Civil Service Commission on the legality of Joson's actions.

Umali's panel of lawyers also considered filing a court suit for mandamus to contest the legality of Joson's actions.

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Tarantado talaga itong si Joson, masyadong pa-epal sa mga mabubuting gawain ni Gov. Umali, nagbakasyon lang, feeling siya ang governor, hoy Acting Governor ka lang habang wala ang governor! Parang pumasok tapos suspended ka ng wala kang ginagawa. Aray!

[NOVO ECIJANO]

San Juan Sur

what a pleasant surprise,im from Concepcion,Cabiao,San Juan is in town proper,right?

[Asturiano]

sabi ng simbahan, hindi raw population ang problema, mismanagement. ang problema, tinatakpan ng simbahan ang tunay na problema. kaya kung patuloy na magmamatigas ito, kahit gaano kaganda ang management natin, wala pa rin kung patuloy namang lumalaki ang population. hindi naman sila sang-ayon sa pagpatay o giyera para ma-manage ang populasyon. yeah, wars curb population growth and the population itself.

Its about time that our government should make a strong stand against the bishops of the church and to remind them that there is a separation of church and state in the constitution. Its been too long that they have been mingling with politics and its about time to tell them enough is enough and let the government do their job of governing while they do theirs also of preaching about faith not politics because the two don't get along together. if they can't see that the population is the problem perhaps they are blind or they just don't want to accept the truth.

[Asturiano]

I don't understand why my fellow nueva ecijano kept voting for the joson. Yong mga joson na iyan masyadong lumaki ang ulo nila, kala kasi nila kanila na ang buong nueva ecija. Sa tatlongpung taon silang naka puesto ano ba ang nagawa nila. kaya dapat hayaan naman nila si gov. umali na gawin yong tungkulin niya without them interfering.

[barrera_marquez]

I don't understand why my fellow nueva ecijano kept voting for the joson. Yong mga joson na iyan masyadong lumaki ang ulo nila, kala kasi nila kanila na ang buong nueva ecija. Sa tatlongpung taon silang naka puesto ano ba ang nagawa nila. kaya dapat hayaan naman nila si gov. umali na gawin yong tungkulin niya without them interfering.

ang siste sa Nueva Ecija, kung hindi palay ay malamang baril. Hindi niyo ba napapansin, madalas makita ang Palayan City at Cabanatuan City sa listahan ng election hotspots tuwing elections.

[tracymack]

Nueva Ecija rice millers stop buying palay as costs rise
By Anselmo Roque
Philippine Daily Inquirer (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/regions/view/20080416-130842/Nueva-Ecija-rice-millers-stop-buying-palay-as-costs-rise)

SAN JOSE CITY – Rice mill owners have stopped buying palay (rough rice), citing diminishing capital and the low demand for milled rice from outlets, particularly in Metro Manila.

“Our combined capital can only buy up to 60 percent of the usual volume of palay that we buy during harvest time,” Edgardo Alfonso, president of the San Jose City Ricemillers Association, said.

He said rice millers here used to buy up to 11 million metric tons of rough rice every year. The palay that they buy is milled and sold in Metro Manila and Southern Luzon.

“Our hands are tied and we cannot move on any further,” Alfonso said.

This city has the most number of rice mills in Luzon. The owners, who mill rice year-round, usually send agents to various places in northern Nueva Ecija, Pangasinan and Nueva Vizcaya to buy the farmers’ palay harvest.

Slow recovery

Not anymore.

“Our P2-billion combined capital was enough then as the palay buying price was from P9 to P10 per kilogram only,” Alfonso said. “But now that it reached more than P19 per kilogram, we can buy only a portion of what we used to buy.”

What aggravated the situation was the low demand for milled rice.

Traders usually use the money they earn selling milled rice to buy more palay. Because the demand is low, it takes them longer now to sell milled rice, which in turn prevents them from buying more palay.

“We are accused of manipulating the buying price of palay to earn more.”

He said: “That’s not true. What we want to do is to continue buying palay so that we can mill and sell rice continuously. Our buying capacity is not that strong anymore.”

The fear of being raided by government agents on suspicion of hoarding is always there, he said. But he said they could not hoard as they should be regularly supplying their outlets.

Asked about the increase in the buying price of rice, Alfonso said the “noise” about the alleged rice crisis, or very low supply of rice, in the world market created panic and speculation by some traders.

Panic-buying

“There was panic-buying of rice. Speculators also bought rice and kept supplies to be sold later at a very high price,” he said.

He said government officials also sent wrong signals to the public about the real rice situation. They even surprised the public about the decision to increase the buying price of palay by the National Food Authority from P12 to P17 per cavan.

It was only recently that the government announced there was no rice crisis. But it came too late, Alfonso said, adding that prices of rough rice and milled rice had already gone up.

For rice farmers, it was good as they would now earn more, he said. But for non-rice producers, they would be affected very much especially during the lean months, he said.

As a rule of thumb, the price of milled rice is pegged by the millers at double the buying price of palay.

Enough rice

“If we bought the palay at P17 per kilogram, the price of the milled rice should be P34 per kilogram. But look what’s happening. The buyers prefer the much cheaper rice now,” he said.

In Urdaneta City, the mayor said that even if farmers would not plant rice in the next one and a half years, residents would still have enough rice to eat.

Mayor Amadeo Perez Jr. said his city had been producing more than enough rice for its 130,000 residents. “If only our farm produce or harvest in palay would remain in Urdaneta, that is more than enough to sustain Urdaneta residents for one and a half years,” he said.

But he said this had not been the case because after harvest, farmers would sell their produce. “This time, I have been emphatic in telling our farmers not to sell all their palay. Retain one half,” he said.

Dalisay Moya, officer in charge of the provincial agriculture office in Lingayen town, said Urdaneta produced 25,023 metric tons of rice last year.

[Pinoy_ako]

what a pleasant surprise,im from Concepcion,Cabiao,San Juan is in town proper,right?

Yes, it is along the main road, between the Municipal Hall and the Church, but they have their own fiesta, which is different from that of the town proper. Concepcion is at the other side of the river? which can be reached by a bamboo foot bridge?

[NOVO ECIJANO]

Yes, it is along the main road, between the Municipal Hall and the Church, but they have their own fiesta, which is different from that of the town proper. Concepcion is at the other side of the river? which can be reached by a bamboo foot bridge?

No,Concepcion is popularly known as "Hacienda" it's next to San Vicente,which is the boundary of Pampanga.

[Pinoy_ako]

No,Concepcion is popularly known as "Hacienda" it's next to San Vicente,which is the boundary of Pampanga.

I'm only familiar with Sta. Rita. Is it the site of the resort ? Is it one of the barrios with swampy grounds, just like Lourdes?

Are your forebears also Kapampangan?

[NOVO ECIJANO]

I'm only familiar with Sta. Rita. Is it the site of the resort ? Is it one of the barrios with swampy grounds, just like Lourdes?

Are your forebears also Kapampangan?

Its not swampy,it is along the national highway next to Sta Rita if you're coming from town proper.I speak Pampango and majority of the folks here.FYI our place used to be part of Pampanga.

[barrera_marquez]

Majority of Novo Ecijanos are considered Kapampangans, while some are Ilokanos. The rest are Tagalogs.

[barrera_marquez]

MANILA, Philippines -- Government officials have monitored signs that prices of commercial rice should be on their way down, but they acknowledged that the farmers have been placed at a disadvantage.

Frisco Malabanan, director of the Ginintuang Masaganang Ani (Golden Bountiful Harvest) Rice program, said that as of Tuesday, farm gate prices of wet palay in Nueva Ecija have been monitored at around P14 to P14.50 a kilo.

He said that commercially, this farmgate price should translate into about P30 a kilo of milled rice, lower than the current prices, which have been hovering around P32 to P34 a kilo.

Malabanan, however, attributed the low farmgate prices of palay to the decision of traders to stop buying in the meantime. "This may be a strategy for them to bring down prices of palay," he said.

Currently, the NFA's buying price is at P17 a kilo, of which P6 consist of the various incentives granted to farmers and farmers organizations.

NFA Assistant Administrator Conrado Ibañez said traders stopped buying palay because millers were also hesitant to stock up on rice, due to the government’s ongoing campaign against rice hoarders.

"A lower buying price -- which translates to lower commercial prices of rice -- may be good and will protect consumers, but what about farmers? How can you encourage them to plant more?"

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Sumasadsad na ang presyo ng commercial rice.
:banana:, :banana:, :banana:

Diyos ko, kahit anong taas ng presyo ng bigas, nalulugi pa rin ang mga magsasaka. Kailangan talagang masulusyunan ang problema ng mga magsasaka.

[igi_master]

Licab Nueva Ecija

http://inlinethumb13.webshots.com/41100/2625416060041605593S600x600Q85.jpg (http://travel.webshots.com/photo/2625416060041605593VwXpfo)

http://inlinethumb53.webshots.com/24244/2522892370041605593S600x600Q85.jpg (http://travel.webshots.com/photo/2522892370041605593sYISTi)

http://inlinethumb04.webshots.com/43395/2446997340041605593S600x600Q85.jpg (http://travel.webshots.com/photo/2446997340041605593RGRZpM)

[barrera_marquez]

Licab Nueva Ecija

http://inlinethumb13.webshots.com/41100/2625416060041605593S600x600Q85.jpg (http://travel.webshots.com/photo/2625416060041605593VwXpfo)

http://inlinethumb53.webshots.com/24244/2522892370041605593S600x600Q85.jpg (http://travel.webshots.com/photo/2522892370041605593sYISTi)

http://inlinethumb04.webshots.com/43395/2446997340041605593S600x600Q85.jpg (http://travel.webshots.com/photo/2446997340041605593RGRZpM)

katabi niyan ang Tarlac ano?

[Pinoy_ako]

Its not swampy,it is along the national highway next to Sta Rita if you're coming from town proper.I speak Pampango and majority of the folks here.FYI our place used to be part of Pampanga.

Yes, the area, as far as Aliaga and Gapan, used to be part of Pampanga.

My grandparents also speak Kapampangan, but I was not able to learn much since I only visit the place during Holy Week and May 16, the town fiesta.

[barrera_marquez]

pareho lang tayo, ako nga sa thread ng Angeles City and Pampanga ni-respond ako sa Kapampangan medyo nahirapan akong intindihin pero naintidihan ko pa rin kahit papaano. Sa Cabanatuan City din ginaganyan ako. I could somewhat understand Kapampangan but I cannot speak it.

Now, this is a silly question but I need to ask this, do we have nightlife places (e.g. bars, nightclubs, restaurants, etc.) to enjoy here in Cabanatuan City?

[Asturiano]

pareho lang tayo, ako nga sa thread ng Angeles City and Pampanga ni-respond ako sa Kapampangan medyo nahirapan akong intindihin pero naintidihan ko pa rin kahit papaano. Sa Cabanatuan City din ginaganyan ako. I could somewhat understand Kapampangan but I cannot speak it.

Now, this is a silly question but I need to ask this, do we have nightlife places (e.g. bars, nightclubs, restaurants, etc.) to enjoy here in Cabanatuan City?

yes, Cabanatuan is a city of quarter a million people, of course, there are some nightclubs for teens and adult and plenty of restaurants just like in other big cities in the philippines

[Asturiano]

[QUOTE=barrera_marquez;19966200]Majority of Novo Ecijanos are considered Kapampangans, while some are Ilokanos. The rest are Tagalogs.[/QU

The majority of nueva ecijan are Tagalog. The Tagalog speaking towns start from half of the Science City of Munoz all the way to Gapan while the Northern part of the province comprises of 11 towns and one city are majority Ilokano speaking towns. There are few towns like Cabiao and San Antonio and Aliaga that has sizable kapangpangan speaker.

[Asturiano]

I didn't know that Licab have a very beautiful plaza even though it is consider one of the poorest town in nueva ecija

[barrera_marquez]

I didn't know that Licab have a very beautiful plaza even though it is consider one of the poorest town in nueva ecija

hindi lang one of the poorest, one of the noisiest (yeah, madalas daw ang shootout dito at malakas daw ang illegal firearms dito, not confirmed of myself pero mas malala pa raw sa nangyari sa Tondo)

@Asturiano:
thanks!

Teka, hindi ba nagtangkang maging HUC ang Cabanatuan City? Anong nangyari?

[NOVO ECIJANO]

pareho lang tayo, ako nga sa thread ng Angeles City and Pampanga ni-respond ako sa Kapampangan medyo nahirapan akong intindihin pero naintidihan ko pa rin kahit papaano. Sa Cabanatuan City din ginaganyan ako. I could somewhat understand Kapampangan but I cannot speak it.

Now, this is a silly question but I need to ask this, do we have nightlife places (e.g. bars, nightclubs, restaurants, etc.) to enjoy here in Cabanatuan City?

maraming pagkakaiba sa salita sa Pampango ng mga nasa Pampanga kaysa sa amin sa Nueva Ecija marami akong hindi naintindihan.mas malalin ang salita nila.

[barrera_marquez]

halata naman pati yung mga spelling ng ibang salita mo may mali (joke!) pero talagang magiging mas malalim ang nasa Pampanga kasi talagang Kapampangan ang salita nila, unlike dito sa Nueva Ecija nahaluan na ng Ilokano at Tagalog.

At saka since mukhang ako ang kausap mo, nagtataka ako kung bakit "sa amin" ang salitang ginamit mo. Dapat "sa atin" dahil Novo Ecijano rin ako... Pampanga lang ang nasa location ko pero may dugong Novo Ecijano rin ako.

[Pinoy_ako]

Ang mom ko na galing sa Tagalog-speaking town, akala ko malalim ang Tagalog niya. Yun pala, mga Kapampangan words ang ginagamit nila na naturalized na sa idiom ng Tagalog, although hindi na nila alam na Kapampangan pala iyon.

[allan_dude]

Palay harvest seen to reach DA target of 7.3 million MT

By Marianne V. Go
Monday, April 28, 2008

The Bureau of Agricultural Statistics has estimated actual palay production for the dry season to amount to seven million metric tons, according to Agriculture Secretary Arthur C. Yap.

Following a meeting with rice millers and grains traders, Yap said that preliminary figures already indicate that some 6.85 million MT have already been harvested, putting the Agriculture Department well in sight in meeting its 7.3 million MT target production.

Even so, Yap said the DA is bent on further raising palay yields, particularly in the country’s top 10 palay-growing provinces which account for almost half of the national output.

To sustain and even boost the high yields in most provinces, Yap said the DA would expand its intervention programs under the Ginintuang Masaganang Ani (GMA) Rice Program, especially in the top palay-growing.

Nueva Ecija tops the list of provinces with the highest palay yield last year, followed by Isabela, Pangasinan, Iloilo, Cagayan, Leyte, Camarines Sur, Tarlac, North Cotabato and Maguindanao.

Nueva Ecija produced 1.356 million MT of rice in 2007; Isabela, 1.036 million MT; Pangasinan, 1.011 million MT; Iloilo, 823,376 MT; Cagayan, 702,561 MT; Leyte, 582,840 MT; Camarines Sur, 560,809 MT; Tarlac, 557,943 MT; North Cotabato, 449,202 MT; and Maguindanao, 433,766 MT.

The leading palay producers accounted for 46.2 percent of the total national rice output in 2007, according to Frisco Malabanan, the national coordinator of the GMA-Rice Program.

Palay production totaled 16.24 million MT in 2007 and is expected to reach another peak of 17.32 million MT this year, with 40 percent or 7.1 million MT already expected to be harvested this dry season.

Malabanan said the DA would carry out the following intervention measures this year under the GMA Rice Program.

• Expansion of areas planted with hybrid seeds and certified seeds, coupled with location-specific measures such as farm inputs like Bio-N, zinc sulfate and other soil ameliorants;

• Restoration of irrigation facilities;

• Provision of post-harvest drying facilities;

• Planting of certified seeds in 600,000 hectares of rain-fed lowlands and low-yielding irrigated areas, which will focus on the priority provinces covered by the President’s Accelerated Hunger Mitigation Program (AHMP);

• Third cropping season under the quick turnaround (QTA) program to cover 92,000-100,000 hectares of fully irrigated areas using hybrid and inbred certified seeds; and

• Planting of hybrids and inbred certified seeds in restored and newly third cropping season under the quick turnaround program to cover 100,000 hectares of fully irrigated areas using hybrid and inbred certified seeds.

Yap earlier bared plans to embark on a subsidy program to encourage farmers to plant hybrid seeds and use more fertilizers, particularly the organic types.

Hybrid seeds cost more but produce an average of six to seven MT per hectare as against the per-hectare average of 4.5 tons for certified seeds.

The use of more hybrid seeds and fertilizers was among the initial recommendations of the Eminent Persons Group, an advisory group comprising ex-DA secretaries and other farm experts that Yap created recently to help oversee the implementation of FIELDS.

FIELDS is the P43.7-billion program for massive crop production that President Arroyo laid out at the National Food Summit last April 4. It stands for Fertilizers, Irrigation, Extension and Education, Loans, Dryers and Seeds.

Yap said a food production masterplan is being drawn up by the DA with experts from the Philippine Rice Research Institute (PhilRice) and the University of the Philippines in Los Baños (UPLB) along with the Eminent Persons Group.

http://philstar.com/archives.php?aid=2008042713&type=2

[barrera_marquez]

Wow! Balik na ang title ng Nueva Ecija bilang "Rice Bowl of the Philippines!". Novo Ecijanos Rejoice!

Pero sana talaga magamit na natin yung hybrid rice na galing sa PhilRice (nakabase sa Science City of Munoz) para dumoble ang production natin ng bigas.

[Asturiano]

Wow! Balik na ang title ng Nueva Ecija bilang "Rice Bowl of the Philippines!". Novo Ecijanos Rejoice!

Pero sana talaga magamit na natin yung hybrid rice na galing sa PhilRice (nakabase sa Science City of Munoz) para dumoble ang production natin ng bigas.

wow!! that's a great news. i heard from the news lately, that this guy from munoz became an instant millionaire because of the high yield of rice harvest with the help of high prices of rice in the market due to rice shortage. our farms has also produce a high yield of harvest averaging 130canvans per hectare and this is not a hybrid.

[Pinoy_ako]

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/663/housetz0.jpg

Argueably, I believe this house, formerly known as the Tinio, or Sideco house, is one of the finest bahay na bato ever built in the Philippines. Emilio Aguinaldo stayed in this house when San Isidro was the capital of the Philippines.

[barrera_marquez]

Guys may tanong lang ako, may ospital ba tayo rito sa Palayan City? Isyung-isyu kasi yung kawalan ng ospital sa Victoria, Tarlac.

[CabanNgTuwa]

Guys may tanong lang ako, may ospital ba tayo rito sa Palayan City? Isyung-isyu kasi yung kawalan ng ospital sa Victoria, Tarlac.

Guys, meron yata pero small district extension hospital lang IMHO

up ko lang NE pics:
Mega:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/36/Nueva_Ecija_Megacenter.jpg
http://megacenter.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/megacenterfacade2.jpg?w=250&h=150

[CabanNgTuwa]

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/6227/ne20strip20mallqn9.jpg

[CabanNgTuwa]

the newly rejuvenated old capitol building in Burgos Ave., Cabanatuan City
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/2216/cabcity2018uy3.jpg

[barrera_marquez]

hehehe ako kumuha nang picture noong Megacenter Mall... anyway, since free license ang ginamit ko sa picture na iyan, you could all use it on any purpose, personal o commercial. kahit nga pagkakitaan ng kung sino man yung pictures ko (wala kayong babayaran sa akin na kahit magkano) na ganyan hindi ako magagalit.

pero next time yung author pakisulat kasi isinulat ko roon yung mga katagang:
Free to use on all purposes as long as credit is given to the author.

Anyway, I have more pictures here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/25379667@N07/

Anyway, salamat na rin sa pagsagot sa tanong ko... since baguhan ka I suggest na pumunta ka sa page na ito:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=445067
baka kasi ma-late ka at hindi ka makapagpakilala at hindi mailista agad pangalan mo. Ako December pa lang narito na pero ngayon ko lang nalaman iyan kaya medyo matatagalan pa ang paglista sa pangalan ko... although I know the moderators here are doing their job well.

[CabanNgTuwa]

hehehe ako kumuha nang picture noong Megacenter Mall... anyway, since free license ang ginamit ko sa picture na iyan, you could all use it on any purpose, personal o commercial. kahit nga pagkakitaan ng kung sino man yung pictures ko (wala kayong babayaran sa akin na kahit magkano) na ganyan hindi ako magagalit.

pero next time yung author pakisulat kasi isinulat ko roon yung mga katagang:
Free to use on all purposes as long as credit is given to the author.

Anyway, I have more pictures here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/25379667@N07/

Anyway, salamat na rin sa pagsagot sa tanong ko...

ganun ba hehe, nakita ko lang kasi sa website ng wikipedia yan, been there on a daily basis, it seems kasi baka puro bukid ang conception ng mga tao about sa nueva ecija, thanks for the pic haha

On the rural side naman:
Minalungao National Park (rivals Palawan hehe)
http://images.mimimayhem.multiply.com/image/11/photos/2/500x500/29/IMG_0654.JPG?et=Rh1S%2CSb69QcCz0bG8vPiDw&nmid=24254398
http://images.mimimayhem.multiply.com/image/14/photos/2/500x500/33/IMG_0677.JPG?et=vQ5FtPYn%2CkYtpQgxmyyEcQ&nmid=24254398
http://images.mimimayhem.multiply.com/image/12/photos/2/500x500/30/IMG_0660.JPG?et=f%2CHXdWooXQv%2BZeHJpLDRhw&nmid=24254398

[CabanNgTuwa]

baka kasi ma-late ka at hindi ka makapagpakilala at hindi mailista agad pangalan mo. Ako December pa lang narito na pero ngayon ko lang nalaman iyan kaya medyo matatagalan pa ang paglista sa pangalan ko... although I know the moderators here are doing their job well.

will do, bro; BTW, i'm a frequent visitor/lurker of this site hehe, i have also read the posts and comments regarding Vice Gov. Joson's "role" as acting governor when Gov. Umali flew to the States for a breather... natawa nga ako dun sa comment mo about dun sa acts ni Vice Gov Joson eh, +1 ako dun, in fact, kaya lang nagpuputok ang butsi nila eh dahil their dynasty is over haha, totoo naman, hindi naman nila napaganda ang Ecija puro sila lang nagpayaman, sila din may kagagawan bakit pinili Palayan as capital, though pagkakaalam ko si Marcos nag-proclaim yata because of the World Jamboree held there, ****-correct na lang if I'm wrong

San Fernando ka pala bro, palagi ako diyan eh

[barrera_marquez]

No problem, just tell me if you need more... :)

Kung tutuusin sa case ng Palayan City, that city was in fact a city that looks like more a town. Kaya nagkaroon ng Palayan City ay dahil sa noong 1950s noong panahon pa ni Magsaysay ay pinagpaplanuhan na nila na ilipat (again) ang kabisera ng Nueva Ecija mula Cabanatuan City papunta sa iba't-ibang bayan ng Nueva Ecija (hindi sila nakukuntento sa Cabanatuan City) at napagdesisyunan na ilipat ito sa Government Stock Farm (yung present Palayan City). Noong 1965 ginawa ang Palayan City at yung mga barangay nito ay kinuha mula sa Cabanatuan City at sa Bayan ng Bongabon. Marcos won't proclaim that city if not because of them.

Obviously nakikita ninyo pati yata ang ating butihing Gobernador na si Governor Umali e ayaw sa naging desisyon ng mga iyon dahil sa palagi siyang nakikita sa kapitolyo sa Cabanatuan City at once a week lang siyang kung pumunta sa Palayan City. Not to mention na walang kapitolyo ang Nueva Ecija sa Palayan City hanggang 2002. (mag-session daw ba sa damuhan?)

Kaya nga sana magkaroon man lang ng bill ang mga kongresista natin na magbabalik ng kabisera sa Cabanatuan City pero hindi ito posible sa mga susunod na taon kasi bago lang yung kabisera. Pwede rin i-dissolve natin ang Palayan City at paghaluin sila ng Cabanatuan City pero ayaw namin kasi mababawasan ng isang lungsod ang Nueva Ecija.

Josons, speaking of those. Kaya sila nakilala sa Nueva Ecija dahil sa naganap na "Raid in Cabanatuan," yung pagsalakay sa Cabanatuan Prison Camp sa Barangay Pangatian (yeah yung monumento roon) yung mga Joson ang namuno roon. Utang na loob ng mga Novo Ecijanos sa kanila iyon noong mga panahong iyon pero as time progresses, lumaki naman ang mga ulo nila. Tumakbo nga ang outgoing Governor na si Tomas Joson III bilang Cabanatuan City mayor pero natalo kay Mayor Alvin Vergara.

The Josons, although their gubernatorial dynasty is over. The remaining two, yung isa kongresista at si Vice Governor ay nananatili. Ewan ko lang kung makatagal sila sa 2010.

Speaking of Governor Umali, hindi rin naman mananalo si Umali noong eleksyon kung hindi dahil sa asawa siya ni Congresswoman Czarina Umali at kakampi niya sina Julius Cesar Vergara at Alvin Vergara (yeah, the mayors of Cabanatuan City) kaya naging malakas ang tiket nila. Epektibong nakontrol nila ang BUONG CABANATUAN CITY noong eleksyon. Resulta, lahat ng listahan ng mga opisyales ng Cabanatuan City sa Wikipedia na Congresswoman, Governor, Mayor at Vice Mayor e puro Lakas-CMD. Malakas ang Lakas-CMD sa Cabanatuan City noong mga panahon na iyon. Not to mention hotspot na naman ang Cabanatuan City noong eleksyon.

Pero hanga ako sa pamamalakad ni Governor, may job fair tapos may blood donation pa ng mga tricycle drivers (30,000 Cabanatuan City alone) kaya maganda talaga ang pamumuno at sana nga magpatuloy.

[Asturiano]

Guys may tanong lang ako, may ospital ba tayo rito sa Palayan City? Isyung-isyu kasi yung kawalan ng ospital sa Victoria, Tarlac.

no, walang hospital, clinic lang sa palayan city sa cabanatuan city sila pumunta pag may emergency o accidente o kaya naman sa bongabon dahil may district hospital yata doon. Kasi parang bayan lang naman yang palayan city ewan ko ba kung bakit ginawang city at saka capital ng nueva ecija yan

[barrera_marquez]

clinic lang, paano yan kung mamamatay na yung pasyente? ang layo pa naman ng pinakamalapit na ospital sa Palayan na nasa Cabanatuan pa.

fire trucks, baka manggagaling pa sa Cabanatuan iyan?

As for Palayan, I could not even consider it a town. Why? Walang ospital, walang centralized market, mi wala nga yatang simbahan o pulis diyan. Paano ba iyan? Parang barangay nga lang sa tingin ko.

[Asturiano]

oo parang malaking barangay na may kaunting building pero meron naman silang maliit na market.

[CabanNgTuwa]

clinic lang, paano yan kung mamamatay na yung pasyente? ang layo pa naman ng pinakamalapit na ospital sa Palayan na nasa Cabanatuan pa.

fire trucks, baka manggagaling pa sa Cabanatuan iyan?

As for Palayan, I could not even consider it a town. Why? Walang ospital, walang centralized market, mi wala nga yatang simbahan o pulis diyan. Paano ba iyan? Parang barangay nga lang sa tingin ko.


natawa ulit ako dito, i second the motion hehe, in fact iisa lang yata ang gasolinahan sa palayan city, tapos bulok pa yung metro kinakalawang hehe, I am not in a smear campaign against Palayan City pero minsan kasi nagawi ako dun sa Palayan sa farm mismo ni Cong. Fajardo, sa tabi ng Sierra Madre, akyat kami, guess what? Ang dami niyang mga luxury cars at manok na panabong, mga Texas breeds, etc.! tapos yung mga caretakers ng manok puro de-armalite! grabe, eh kung yung Pork Barrel ba naman eh sa development funds inilalagay eh di sana kahit papaano maganda na ang Palayan!

sana naman mabasa ng mga kinauukulan to para maging ok naman ang city nila, kung sabagay sino ba naman mag-iinvest doon eh puro papuntang bundok ang biyahe doon (Aurora), what I just noticed eh puros yung mga along Maharlika Highway going to Cagayan Valley lang na mga towns ang prosperous pero yung out of the way puro farmlands lang

anybody here who has some pics of Guimba, Nueva Ecija? When we went to Baguio, doon kami dumaan (Cuyapo-Baloc Road) and to my amazement, laking gulat ko that Guimba looks more like a miny city than a sleepless town! Who would ever thought na this place is packed with establishments, banks, groceries and a shopping complex! thumbs up ako dito sa town na 'to even though it is situated in the middle of nowhere, a mere 150 kms away from Manila

[CabanNgTuwa]

The reason is, may constant death threats palagi kay Gov., alam niyo na hehe, daming inggitero sa posisyon eh

You're probably referring to the "late great" Tatang

[barrera_marquez]

Sabi daw nila (not sure kung totoo) kaya raw hindi umuunlad ang Palayan dahil daw sa palpak na pamamalakad sa development ng lungsod, not to mention daw na may NPA roon. E kung pagpalitin kaya natin sila ng pangalan ng Guimba?

pero kung tutuusin maganda ang tsansa ng Palayan na maging isang munting Baguio kasi maganda ang views at saka medyo mataas ang lugar at malamig. Pero kulang lang talaga ang amenities na dapat ngang taglayin nito kasi ito ang daanan ng mga sasakyang papuntang Aurora.

Nakita niyo na rin siguro yung sementeryo sa tabi ng Barangay Santolan doon sa Palayan? Medyo parang mas marami pa yatang nakalibing doon kaysa sa mga nabubuhay na nakatira roon sa Palayan. Paano ba naman, yung sementeryo siksikan pero yung "city" proper man lang walang masyadong tao. Dati taga-rito ako dahil narito ang lola ko pero nang napuno na siya, bumili siya ng bahay sa Cabanatuan City at doon na lumipat and I am glad that she made that choice dahil isipin niyo bibibyahe muna siya para lang mamalengke o magpa-check up sa doctor sabi ko nga patay na kung emergency case na ang nangyari.

Sa totoo lang tinanong ko nga sa mga colleagues ko kung ano ang kabisera ng Nueva Ecija, they all said, Cabanatuan City. May kapitolyo tayo rito sa Cabanatuan City (under renovation) pero mas malaki ang sa Palayan City.

But still, we need to wait a few more years to see if the situation in Palayan will improve.

Isa pa, maganda yung isang building roon isang sulok ng Palayan City. Ano ba iyon, hotel? Yung kulay puti (hindi ito yung kapitolyo o yung city hall pero malaki at may fountain sa harap) bago ka makarating sa kapitolyo mula Cabanatuan City. Salamat.

Parang city na nga ang Guimba at Santa Rosa sa tingin ko, talo pa Palayan City. No cityhood bills for these towns yet?

Population Count:
Palayan City = 33,506
Guimba = 96,116
Santa Rosa = 58,762

Speaking of death threats, uso naman iyan sa Nueva Ecija. Paano ba naman, kung hindi bigas ang gagalaw malamang bala.

Ito nga pala yung pictures ng Bagong Kapitolyo:
http://www2.mozcom.com/~mic55/kapitolyo/index.html

At ito yung sa Cabanatuan City:
http://nuevaecijajournal.com/galleries.html

[CabanNgTuwa]

haha maganda nga ang guimba kesa sa palayan, ang daming tao sa guimba unlike sa palayan, like you've mentioned mas marami pa nakalibing sa sementeryo hehe, yun yung zigzag na kalsada that separates Palayan from Cabanatuan, recently napadaan ako sa Gapan (the self-proclaimed Tsinelas Capital of the world) and i just noticed na aside from the bustling trade and industry plus the emergence of a huge Robinsons/Waltermart there, napansin ko ang ganda na rin ng kanilang City Hall! nagulat nga ako, if you'll look closely, may resemblance sa mga buildings sa Ayala, only downside is 3 story lang siya pero made of all-glass structure, ganda eh, post naman natin Gapan

[barrera_marquez]

Ay marami akong pictures ng Gapan City, ito:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2246/2420862028_46f801749f.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2417/2420860876_b87aa13717.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2270/2420049283_79cfd2880d.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3125/2420861688_fc9f72d106.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2118/2420861328_9a3664209f.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2344/2420865164_449539a235.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2414/2420860592_8860332876.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2176/2420048145_eb6c28815a.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2033/2420045505_8e6519c7c0.jpg

Teka nga pala bro, nasaan yung Robinsons? Waltermart lang ang alam kong meron doon.

[CabanNgTuwa]

nice pics bro, yun palang link mo sa flickr eh kumpleto mula Balintawak hanggang sa Cabanatuan, pati Plaridel at San Miguel yata nasama... yun yatang Robinson's na sinasabi department store section lang inside Waltermart, sorry for the misleading info...

sana may pics din ng San Jose City

[CabanNgTuwa]

as we can see from the pics above, halos flat pala talaga ang terrain ng Maharlika Highway from San Miguel Bulacan, Gapan, San Leonardo, Sta. Rosa, Cabanatuan City, Talavera, Baloc-Sto Domingo, Munoz, until frontal San Jose City... flat, as in flat, this equates to around an almost 100 kilometers stretch of highway... kaya sobra ang init, malalayo ang mga bundok na sana eh magsilbing shadow sa kalsada... there is a saying na kapag inilagay mo raw sa lupa ang itlog eh iahon mo pagkaraan ng ilang minuto & presto! luto na ang itlog! well, i think this refers to the whole of the Central Luzon and the Philippines as well...

[barrera_marquez]

Ilang oras ba ang hanggang San Jose City mula Manila?

Pero speaking sa flat na highway ng Maharlika, ang solution lang diyan e simple, magtanim ng puno sa gilid pero mukha yatang pati buto ng puno e tumataas din ang presyo.

Anyway, may itatayong expressway mula QC hanggang Tuguegarao City at dadaan ito ng Nueva Ecija especially sa Cabanatuan City. Hopefully matuloy ito at hopefully 4 lanes ang lawak ng expressway para bumilis naman ang travel. Naiipit kami ng 3 hours sa tagal ng biyahe mula Manila hanggang Cabanatuan.

Ayon sa sarili kong experience ang travel time mula San Fernando hanggang Cabanatuan ay 3 hours din. Bakit?

[CabanNgTuwa]

Anyway, may itatayong expressway mula QC hanggang Tuguegarao City at dadaan ito ng Nueva Ecija especially sa Cabanatuan City. Hopefully matuloy ito at hopefully 4 lanes ang lawak ng expressway para bumilis naman ang travel. Naiipit kami ng 3 hours sa tagal ng biyahe mula Manila hanggang Cabanatuan.

Ayon sa sarili kong experience ang travel time mula San Fernando hanggang Cabanatuan ay 3 hours din. Bakit?

Sana nga naman matuloy yang Expressway na yan, pero parang panaginip na lang siguro kasi balita ko hindi pa mabigyan ng go-signal, ano to political interference?

San Fernando-Cabanatuan is only 60-70 kilometers apart, kaya nagtatagal ang biyahe eh dahil sa Km 7 or yung Olongapo-Gapan Road na saksakan ng traffic, halos lahat ng bayan ng NE at Pampanga nandun ang mga public market along the highway; my mom ply this route almost everyday, imagine kung may lateral expressway between SFP & CabCity, yung distance eh parang Balintawak-San Fernando lang, 45 mins! ganun magiging kabilis ang biyahe papuntang regional center ng Central Luzon!
Bro, i think, 160 kms, ang Manila-San Jose

[barrera_marquez]

That's 4 1/2 hours... patay tayo roon.

Speaking of the expressway may go signal na at expected na ibibigay na ng NEDA sa Ausphil ang Notice to Proceed this June, kung magtutuloy-tuloy ito baka by July-December magsimula na ang construction nito. Isipin niyo 2004 pa dapat nasimulan ito pero nagkaroon ng konting aberya sa pagre-release ng mga final documents. Delayed tuloy ng halos 4 years.

Pati sa Maharlika Highway siksikan ang mga Public Market, kaya ang haba ng traffic sa San Rafael, San Ildefonso at San Miguel. Ano ba iyan?

[CabanNgTuwa]

That's 4 1/2 hours... patay tayo roon.

Speaking of the expressway may go signal na at expected na ibibigay na ng NEDA sa Ausphil ang Notice to Proceed this June, kung magtutuloy-tuloy ito baka by July-December magsimula na ang construction nito. Isipin niyo 2004 pa dapat nasimulan ito pero nagkaroon ng konting aberya sa pagre-release ng mga final documents. Delayed tuloy ng halos 4 years.

Pati sa Maharlika Highway siksikan ang mga Public Market, kaya ang haba ng traffic sa San Rafael, San Ildefonso at San Miguel. Ano ba iyan?

Oo nga, ganyan naman yata talaga ang mentality ng mga Pilipino, show-off sa mga dumadaan sa highway para sabihin asensado sila (by showing a decent public market), ang nakakabuwisit lalo eh yung Plaridel, halos isang oras mo tatagusin ito, kaya ako, San Simon lumalabas yun nga lang baku-bako hehe

BTW, look at Munoz, Nieva Ecija, this is a progressive place pero yung poblacion area nila nakapasok sa isang detour route, which translates to smooth, manageable traffic...

[barrera_marquez]

Yung poblacion nila nilagay nila sa isang detour route at hindi mismo sa highway? Mabuti dahil sa ibang bayan sa mismong national road sila nakalagay kaya tuloy napipilitan silang gumawa ng bypass roads.

[Asturiano]

Ilang oras ba ang hanggang San Jose City mula Manila?

Pero speaking sa flat na highway ng Maharlika, ang solution lang diyan e simple, magtanim ng puno sa gilid pero mukha yatang pati buto ng puno e tumataas din ang presyo.

Anyway, may itatayong expressway mula QC hanggang Tuguegarao City at dadaan ito ng Nueva Ecija especially sa Cabanatuan City. Hopefully matuloy ito at hopefully 4 lanes ang lawak ng expressway para bumilis naman ang travel. Naiipit kami ng 3 hours sa tagal ng biyahe mula Manila hanggang Cabanatuan.

Ayon sa sarili kong experience ang travel time mula San Fernando hanggang Cabanatuan ay 3 hours din. Bakit?

Noong umuuwi kami sa san jose mahigit 3 hours and 30 minutes ewan ko lang ngayon kasi 10 years ago pa iyon . balita ko sa cabanatuan palang traffic na kasi masyadong maraming tricycle siguro depende sa traffic baka 4 hours. Buti
pa yong gapan kailan lang naging city my mall na agad sa san jose nag hintay sila ng 30 years napakaliit pa ng mall na ginawa. mas mauunahan pa yata ng gapan sa pag asenso ang san jose

[CabanNgTuwa]

Noong umuuwi kami sa san jose mahigit 3 hours and 30 minutes ewan ko lang ngayon kasi 10 years ago pa iyon . balita ko sa cabanatuan palang traffic na kasi masyadong maraming tricycle siguro depende sa traffic baka 4 hours. Buti
pa yong gapan kailan lang naging city my mall na agad sa san jose nag hintay sila ng 30 years napakaliit pa ng mall na ginawa. mas mauunahan pa yata ng gapan sa pag asenso ang san jose

maybe, but having a mall doesn't necessarily mean that that "new" city is much better-looking than the other one; in fact, San Jose City is one of the first NE cities way up north that are more "civilized-looking" than its local counterparts such as Palayan, Gapan & Munoz... been there in the late 80s and all I can say is that the poblacion part of the National Highway there looks more like Dagupan City (of the 80s) in terms of infrastructure; one thing that still sticks to my mind after all these years is the decorative, well-lit up isles in the midst of the highway that serves its purpose very well; well, if you just came down from Bugkalot country (rural parts of Quirino & Nueva Vizcaya) and the Caraballos, you might just get off the bus and mistake it for Manila (or Quezon Avenue hehe)...

[barrera_marquez]

Well, remember this guys if you are a frequent witness of crossfires in Nueva Ecija:

"Kung hindi traktora ng bigas ang mag-iingay sa Nueva Ecija, malamang baril na..."

In English:

"If the rice tractor isn't the noise-maker in Nueva Ecija, a gun is..."

[Asturiano]

one thing i like about san jose city is that they have a wider street compare to cabanatuan. The street is also clean and well plan.

[Asturiano]

marquez barrera taga saan ka ba sa nueva ecija. Do you know, why until now cabanatuan has not have an official websites in the internet. i have been searching for cabanatuan websites for a long time and i haven't found one yet but I found a websites for san jose, munoz and gapan. I was wondering why cabanatuan did not have one, especially it is one of the biggest city in the province.

[barrera_marquez]

marquez barrera taga saan ka ba sa nueva ecija. Do you know, why until now cabanatuan has not have an official websites in the internet. i have been searching for cabanatuan websites for a long time and i haven't found one yet but I found a websites for san jose, munoz and gapan. I was wondering why cabanatuan did not have one, especially it is one of the biggest city in the province.

Sa may bandang Barrera District ako pero hindi ako masyadong nagii-stay diyan kasi masyadong malayo sa Manila.

This is the official website of Cabanatuan City, pero yun nga lang hindi naman nila ina-update pero may history iyan ng Cabanatuan City...

http://www.cityofcabanatuan.gov.ph/index.php

Ito sa Palayan City for reference na lang...

http://www.palayancity.gov.ph/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1&Itemid=1

Science City of Munoz...

http://www.sciencecityofmunoz.ph/

Gapan City

http://www2.mozcom.com/~gapan_ct/

San Jose City, Nueva Ecija

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/San_Jose_City_Seal.PNG/140px-San_Jose_City_Seal.PNG

[CabanNgTuwa]

marquez barrera taga saan ka ba sa nueva ecija. Do you know, why until now cabanatuan has not have an official websites in the internet. i have been searching for cabanatuan websites for a long time and i haven't found one yet but I found a websites for san jose, munoz and gapan. I was wondering why cabanatuan did not have one, especially it is one of the biggest city in the province.

wala nga pero itanong mo dun sa mga high school students na mahilig sa friendster, sangkatutak ang mga blog spots nila about Cabanatuan (amateur sites); problem with is with the webmasters, look at pampanga, kumpleto sila sa wikipedia, medyo tamad lang mag upload ng mga articles at mag-contribute sa internet mga taga ecija pero this only proves that novo ecijanos may be the "silent type" pero if you get to know them much deeper, you will know that iba makisama mga taga ecija, hindi ka tatagain kahit nakatalikod ka... sorry medyo OT pero i know very well that some other Luzonians (CL, espec.) have that trait running through their veins, if you know what I mean:banana:

[CabanNgTuwa]

Sa may bandang Barrera District ako pero hindi ako masyadong nagii-stay diyan kasi masyadong malayo sa Manila.

bro, buti nga tayo 84 kms lang, pag nanggaling ka ng Aparri, iisipin mo parang Camachile lang ang layo ng NE

[barrera_marquez]

Hindi sa nagyayabang ako ano pero kung hindi pa ako gumalaw noon sa Wikipedia malamang hanggang ngayon wala pa ring seal ang mga articles ng Cabanatuan City, Palayan City, Science City of Munoz, San Jose City at Gapan City (naku po! Lahat ng 5 cities ng Nueva Ecija iyon)

Anyway, I am trying to observe the Wikipedia entries of all the provinces of Central Luzon. Medyo mahirap nga kasi noong unang sabak ko sa giyera walang laman ang Balanga City, iyang 5 cities ng Nueva Ecija, maraming formatting errors sa City of San Fernando, sabog ang infoboxes ng Meycauayan at Malolos at kung anu-ano pa, all must be fixed. Buti nga ngayon medyo may tumutulong na at magaan na ang trabaho.

Anyway bro, nag-roll call na ulit sa roll call thread, hindi pa rin listed ang pangalan mo, kailangang magpa-register ka...

[allan_dude]

From Wikipedia:

Nueva Ecija was created as a military comandancia in 1777 by Governor General Clavería, with the capital at Baler (now part of Aurora). It was formerly part of the province of Pampanga. From its humble beginning, its land area grew to cover almost the entire island of Luzon. Spanish Records in the Philippines recognizes 2 Spanish countries in the Pacific-- Las Islas Filipinas and Nueva Ecija. Poverty was the only reason why Nueva Ecija was not given recognition as a separate country from the Philippines by the King of Spain in 1840s. From 1777 to 1917, Nueva Ecija's territory was however subdivided to give way to the creation of other provinces. The Province of Tayabas (now Aurora and Quezon) including Polillo Islands, the provinces of Palanan (now Isabela), Cagayan, the province of Nueva Vizcaya, the territory which became part of the Province of Quirino, and the province of Manila north of the province of Tondo in 1867, and the District of Morong (now Rizal) were among those created out of Nueva Ecija.

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totoo ba to? Sayang, bansa na sana ang NE.

[tracymack]

^^A country within a country? Ayos yan ah. Kakaiba.

[Pinoy_ako]

From Wikipedia:

Nueva Ecija was created as a military comandancia in 1777 by Governor General Clavería, with the capital at Baler (now part of Aurora). It was formerly part of the province of Pampanga. From its humble beginning, its land area grew to cover almost the entire island of Luzon. Spanish Records in the Philippines recognizes 2 Spanish countries in the Pacific-- Las Islas Filipinas and Nueva Ecija. Poverty was the only reason why Nueva Ecija was not given recognition as a separate country from the Philippines by the King of Spain in 1840s. From 1777 to 1917, Nueva Ecija's territory was however subdivided to give way to the creation of other provinces. The Province of Tayabas (now Aurora and Quezon) including Polillo Islands, the provinces of Palanan (now Isabela), Cagayan, the province of Nueva Vizcaya, the territory which became part of the Province of Quirino, and the province of Manila north of the province of Tondo in 1867, and the District of Morong (now Rizal) were among those created out of Nueva Ecija.

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totoo ba to? Sayang, bansa na sana ang NE.

May mali siguro sa sources na pinagkunan ng Wikipedia or mali ang mga translations. For one, Tayabas has always been a province. The source may have been referring to Principe and Infanta, which would coincide with the present boundaries of Aurora. Yung sinasabing province of Palanan, it should have been qualified as "now a part of Isabela" kasi ang Nueva Ecija dati, kasama ang malaking part ng coastline ng eastern Luzon. Ang Cagayan, matagal na itong province at ang Isabela, dito lang galing.

Medyo weird ang reference sa dalawang countries kasi hindi man lamang regular province ang Nueva Ecija before 1840.

[barrera_marquez]

If in case naging bansa ang NE, baka mangailangan pa ako ng visa para lang umuwi ng probinsya. Ano ba yun?

[Asturiano]

When i was attending college in the states we are not allowed to used wikipedia as source for our essay because the information is vogue and almost everybody could edit or add information in the websites. I still prefer msn encarta or google.
By the way nueva ecija was created in 1704 by the spanish governor of the philippines fausto cruzar y gongora a native of ecija in the province of sevilla, andalucia spain. Nueva ecija was created as comandacia politico militar of the province of pampangga Nueva ecija was named after his town of ecija, which by the way a very beautiful city, the entire city was painted with white washed paint to reflect the heat of the sun and a red roof tiles, also known as city of many towers. The original town of nueva ecija are baler, bongabon, cabanatuan, palanan, casiguran, pantabangan, and carranglan. In 1848 because the province remain unpopulated, six towns from pampanga were taken to boost the population of the province. these town were san isidro, cabiao, san antonio, gapan, aliaga and jaen

[barrera_marquez]

When i was attending college in the states we are not allowed to used wikipedia as source for our essay because the information is vogue and almost everybody could edit or add information in the websites. I still prefer msn encarta or google.
By the way nueva ecija was created in 1704 by the spanish governor of the philippines fausto cruzar y gongora a native of ecija in the province of sevilla, andalucia spain. Nueva ecija was created as comandacia politico militar of the province of pampangga Nueva ecija was named after his town of ecija, which by the way a very beautiful city, the entire city was painted with white washed paint to reflect the heat of the sun and a red roof tiles, also known as city of many towers. The original town of nueva ecija are baler, bongabon, cabanatuan, palanan, casiguran, pantabangan, and carranglan. In 1848 because the province remain unpopulated, six towns from pampanga were taken to boost the population of the province. these town were san isidro, cabiao, san antonio, gapan, aliaga and jaen

unpopulated pa pala ang lagay ng Cabanatuan dati? Aba'y iyan nga ang unang lungsod ng Central Luzon hindi ba? (1950)

Speaking of Encarta, may problema rin ang Encarta kasi kung titingnan niyo ang article ng Makati at San Fernando e mga municipality pa rin sila roon. Ngayon lahat sila lungsod na, ano ba iyan Microsoft? Ang bagal ninyong mag-update!

[CabanNgTuwa]

unpopulated pa pala ang lagay ng Cabanatuan dati? Aba'y iyan nga ang unang lungsod ng Central Luzon hindi ba? (1950)

Speaking of Encarta, may problema rin ang Encarta kasi kung titingnan niyo ang article ng Makati at San Fernando e mga municipality pa rin sila roon. Ngayon lahat sila lungsod na, ano ba iyan Microsoft? Ang bagal ninyong mag-update!

haha oo nga, i second the motion; well, we have to go back to our roots, old style (aka library method) to know what is true or not; anyways, wikipedia is now maintained by credible staffs and tinatanggal din nila kaagad pag hindi appropriate or hindi credible ang information na inilagay ng mga contributors doon; salamat pala manny_barrera sa mga updates mo sa wikipedia hehe

btw, naalala ko nga Cabanatuan pa lang ang city noong araw dito; yung SAn Fernando Pampanga parang bukid pa dati talaga yung present location ng SM City at Robinsons, who would have ever thought na magiging ganyan yan eh dati basurahan ng mga kapampangan yan? no offense meant, in 1991 mukha sila kawawa nung pumutok ang Pinatubo; most arrogant individuals nagsibait nung nag-delubyo; we deserted out house in Angeles City to seek refuge in Cabanatuan, and lahar flows went to as far as San Antonio & Jaen, Nueva Ecija

[CabanNgTuwa]

as i've noticed, there is also an error regarding the province's map location:
http://www.nuevaecijapulis.com/images/Nueva_Ecija-1.gif

[Asturiano]

unpopulated pa pala ang lagay ng Cabanatuan dati? Aba'y iyan nga ang unang lungsod ng Central Luzon hindi ba? (1950)

Speaking of Encarta, may problema rin ang Encarta kasi kung titingnan niyo ang article ng Makati at San Fernando e mga municipality pa rin sila roon. Ngayon lahat sila lungsod na, ano ba iyan Microsoft? Ang bagal ninyong mag-update!

The problem with the philippines is that keep making cities, there are already too many cities in the country. Those two cities that you mentioned has been elevated to city when encarta was last updated. Wikipedia is good for quick information that is because it was design for quick facts. Its credibility is still being question, but i understand that they are now doing everything to stop bad information into their sites.
Cabanatuan used to be a sleepy town during the spanish period it was during the american period that it actually became a real booming town, roads, schools, market, and the capitol building were constructed during this time. It is no coincidence that it became one of the first city to rise in central luzon.

[barrera_marquez]

@CabanNgTuwa

Parang napansin ko nga na simula noong pumutok ang Mount Pinatubo, bumilis ang development sa San Fernando hanggang sa naging lungsod ito. Ngayon, wala nang halos bukirin sa San Fernando, puro gusali, bahat at pabrika na... when Mount Pinatubo erupted, mass exodus from Zambales, Tarlac and Pampanga followed next pero diyan din naman nakuha ng Pampanga ang tune-toneladang buhangin?

About sa mapa mo, ire-reklamo ko iyan kay TheCoffee (wikipedia user), siya gumawa niyan e... natatawa rin ako kasi mula San Fernando hanggang Cabanatuan, hindi mo na kailangang dumaan ng Tarlac, looking at the map, dadaan at dadaan ka kahit na anong mangyari.

@Asturiano:

It is alright to create more cities but it isn't right to grant exemption to those not deserving to be... just like last year, too many municipalities were converted into cities even if they didn't meet the requirements to become a city.

[CabanNgTuwa]

as i've noticed, there is also an error regarding the province's map location:
http://www.nuevaecijapulis.com/images/Nueva_Ecija-1.gif

thanks bro Barrera_Marquez; napansin ko lang kasi sa almost every map ng NE ganun, Pangasinan should have been Benguet, Tarlac - Pampanga; Benguet and NE shares no common boundaries with each other: Pangasinan has...

anyways, have you heard the news that Nueva Ecija "will" be divided into 2 (two) parts? This is the proposal of the opposition party (BALANE) hehe; boto ba kayo?

[Asturiano]

thanks bro Barrera_Marquez; napansin ko lang kasi sa almost every map ng NE ganun, Pangasinan should have been Benguet, Tarlac - Pampanga; Benguet and NE shares no common boundaries with each other: Pangasinan has...

anyways, have you heard the news that Nueva Ecija "will" be divided into 2 (two) parts? This is the proposal of the opposition party (BALANE) hehe; boto ba kayo?

Just hearing the idea of two nueva ecija is insane, by proposing this they just want to continue their grip on power because right now, their hold on power is a little bit shaky than before. This idea is mainly for political greed and not in the best interest of nueva ecija as a whole.

[barrera_marquez]

thanks bro Barrera_Marquez; napansin ko lang kasi sa almost every map ng NE ganun, Pangasinan should have been Benguet, Tarlac - Pampanga; Benguet and NE shares no common boundaries with each other: Pangasinan has...

anyways, have you heard the news that Nueva Ecija "will" be divided into 2 (two) parts? This is the proposal of the opposition party (BALANE) hehe; boto ba kayo?

Obviously hindi! Bakit mahahati ang Nueva Ecija?! Sino ba sila para gawin iyon, malamang pati si Joson e hindi papayag diyan... the province has 5 cities and 27 municipalities and the reason why they are going to do it is because most of these towns/cities are controlled by administration mayors, even the governor and representatives (including Josons) are PGMA's allies. Malamang talagang gusto nilang tirahin ang Cabanatuan City kasi from Vice Mayor up to the kongresista puro Lakas-CMD (nasa Wikipedia, ****-check na lang: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabanatuan_City). NEVER! NEVER and NEVER!

Tanong lang, ano ba ang proposed division ng Nueva Ecija?

[barrera_marquez]

Well, may good news para sa Palayan City. Ayon sa latest satellite data ng Google Earth sa Palayan City (high-res na ito, Cabanatuan City still is low-res) e may considerable amount of development ang naganap sa Palayan City. However, it is still very small compared to huge NE cities like Gapan and Cabanataun...

[CabanNgTuwa]

Well, may good news para sa Palayan City. Ayon sa latest satellite data ng Google Earth sa Palayan City (high-res na ito, Cabanatuan City still is low-res) e may considerable amount of development ang naganap sa Palayan City. However, it is still very small compared to huge NE cities like Gapan and Cabanataun...

yap, yan yung area na malapit sa provincial capitol; that area is booming nowadays and rumours are floating around that a huge mall will built there; well, how about SM in Cabanatuan? any news/updates? I've heard that Rosales now have an SM, and a Baliuag branch is also under construction and it's massive also

[barrera_marquez]

yap, yan yung area na malapit sa provincial capitol; that area is booming nowadays and rumours are floating around that a huge mall will built there; well, how about SM in Cabanatuan? any news/updates? I've heard that Rosales now have an SM, and a Baliuag branch is also under construction and it's massive also

May itatayong mall doon, really? Sinong magtatayo?

We have to wait for the next 10 years to see if Palayan develops even more. Ang nakita ko sa satellite data ng Palayan City, magkakahiwalay ang mga developed areas niya. Mas malaki ang concentration ng development malapit sa kapitolyo.

Yun talaga ang magpapaganda sa Palayan sa sana matapos na ang mga araw na ibinababa natin ang Palayan. Anyway, SM Cabanatuan? Wala pa ring updates tungkol doon.

[Asturiano]

I just saw the aerial view of Palayan city from google earth the place has a big potential. The vast empty space of the area unlike Cabanatuan could be easily developed into a well plan city with big wide street and park that can rival any cities in the Philippines. The new capitol and the convention center were built so close to the national highway that sooner or later traffic will be a problem and it could been a lot better if they just put a big new park in front of the capitol with an equestrian statue of gen. Tinio and Llanera and a wide avenue with rotunda in the center that led toward the capitol that will be called paseo de Nueva Ecija lining with trees on each side of the paseo. Is just suck that most of our cities didn't have a better urban planning even the view of manila from google earth looks like hell because of the lack of urban planning, no wonder the traffic is so congested, if they just followed the whole master plan of Burnham for manila, manila could be a lot organized and good to look at from above.

[CabanNgTuwa]

I just saw the aerial view of Palayan city from google earth the place has a big potential. The vast empty space of the area unlike Cabanatuan could be easily developed into a well plan city with big wide street and park that can rival any cities in the Philippines. The new capitol and the convention center were built so close to the national highway that sooner or later traffic will be a problem and it could been a lot better if they just put a big new park in front of the capitol with an equestrian statue of gen. Tinio and Llanera and a wide avenue with rotunda in the center that led toward the capitol that will be called paseo de Nueva Ecija lining with trees on each side of the paseo. Is just suck that most of our cities didn't have a better urban planning even the view of manila from google earth looks like hell because of the lack of urban planning, no wonder the traffic is so congested, if they just followed the whole master plan of Burnham for manila, manila could be a lot organized and good to look at from above.

+1 on that bro; The only place I love in Manila (City) is the Roxas Boulevard (Luneta) stretch up to the reclamation area (Mall of Asia) segment; These are free from "slumtter folks" and the Bay area overlooking Bataan Mountains are so much pleasing to the eye... But other than that, when you're @ Tondo, Sta. Ana, Paco, Sampaloc, you feel like you're in hell on earth; walking alone there is like suicide, pickpockets abound in Quiapo, Sta. Cruz, even in Lawton hehe...

As for Palayan City, if only Sen. Angara would be Vice President (kaso mahina siya sa Mindanao peeps), then, the development of the provincial road going up to Baler would play a crucial part in its future progress...

[barrera_marquez]

pero sana lang, magkaroon naman ng kahit man lang na maliit na ospital at police station doon. Maraming NPA roon.

[CabanNgTuwa]

pero sana lang, magkaroon naman ng kahit man lang na maliit na ospital at police station doon. Maraming NPA roon.

mukhang malabong maalis mga NPA doon, before, we had a poultry business there, sa paanan ng bundok ng Sierra Madre, then, everytime we harvest our chicken, may mga lumalapit na mga "Nice People Around", asking for donations and some financial help, dun namin na-realize na mahirap pala magtayo ng agri-business dun sa Palayan kasi madami nga na "huthuteros", AK-47 lang puhunan tapos magbibigay ka na obligado

I wonder why the PNP can't do anything about it considering napakalapit ng Kapitolyo doon, takot pa yata sila sa mga "goons"...

[barrera_marquez]

mukhang malabong maalis mga NPA doon, before, we had a poultry business there, sa paanan ng bundok ng Sierra Madre, then, everytime we harvest our chicken, may mga lumalapit na mga "Nice People Around", asking for donations and some financial help, dun namin na-realize na mahirap pala magtayo ng agri-business dun sa Palayan kasi madami nga na "huthuteros", AK-47 lang puhunan tapos magbibigay ka na obligado

I wonder why the PNP can't do anything about it considering napakalapit ng Kapitolyo doon, takot pa yata sila sa mga "goons"...

PNP was not the right agency to contact when the case is like that. AFP should be the one, siguro naman alam niyo yung Fort Magsaysay?

Anyway, talaga bang tinututukan kayo ng AK-47? At saan yung business ninyo sa Palayan City? Para maisumbong natin kay Governor Umali. Alam ko may mga ganyan din sa Cabanatuan City lalo na sa may bandang Cabu.

[barrera_marquez]

Nueva Ecija as the "Rice Bowl of the Philippines:"

This photo, according to the author, R T P, was taken on September, 2007. I am not sure where in Nueva Ecija he/she took it but he/she said that it was taken on Nueva Ecija.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/203/452568227_4af4a2d547_b.jpg

Kailan ba matatapos ang summer harvest at kailan din ba magsisimula ang susunod na anihan ng palay? At saka nasaan ba nagko-concentrate ang mga kalabaw ng Nueva Ecija?

[CabanNgTuwa]

PNP was not the right agency to contact when the case is like that. AFP should be the one, siguro naman alam niyo yung Fort Magsaysay?

Anyway, talaga bang tinututukan kayo ng AK-47? At saan yung business ninyo sa Palayan City? Para maisumbong natin kay Governor Umali. Alam ko may mga ganyan din sa Cabanatuan City lalo na sa may bandang Cabu.

not exactly naman tinutukan, just waving beneath their "camouflages" lang:)
as for Ft. Magsaysay, they too are just a stone's throw away from illegal loggers and "legal" loggers like Roxas, the developer kuno as well as NPAs around the reservation (Laur, Palayan, Gen. Tinio, Minalungao)... ewan ko ba kung hindi lang nila pinapansin yung mga "pogi" doon or talagang balewala na sa kanila; kung sabagay, iilan lang naman yata silang mga NPA doon, most are concentrated uphill in the Sierra Madres of Bulacan and Quezon Province

Even Gov. Umali doesn't wanna deal with these people, who knows, mga voters din mga yan:cheers:

[barrera_marquez]

not exactly naman tinutukan, just waving beneath their "camouflages" lang:)
as for Ft. Magsaysay, they too are just a stone's throw away from illegal loggers and "legal" loggers like Roxas, the developer kuno as well as NPAs around the reservation (Laur, Palayan, Gen. Tinio, Minalungao)... ewan ko ba kung hindi lang nila pinapansin yung mga "pogi" doon or talagang balewala na sa kanila; kung sabagay, iilan lang naman yata silang mga NPA doon, most are concentrated uphill in the Sierra Madres of Bulacan and Quezon Province

Even Gov. Umali doesn't wanna deal with these people, who knows, mga voters din mga yan:cheers:

Tama ka nga, baka nga ganoon. Pero yung sinabi mong Sierra Madres of Bulacan, wow medyo natakot ako roon kasi minsan napapadaan ako sa Santa Maria at sa San Jose del Monte City. Umaakyat yung mga bus diyan sa Sierra Madre.

[CabanNgTuwa]

Tama ka nga, baka nga ganoon. Pero yung sinabi mong Sierra Madres of Bulacan, wow medyo natakot ako roon kasi minsan napapadaan ako sa Santa Maria at sa San Jose del Monte City. Umaakyat yung mga bus diyan sa Sierra Madre.

yung gawi ng Minalungao (part Nueva Ecija, part Bulacan), Dona Remedios Trinidad daw ang madaming insurgents, tapos dami pa illegal loggers... kaya tuloy bumabaha sa ibaba pag umuulan kinakalbo nila yung bundok

mukhang hopeless case na yung kaingin issue jan sa Gabaldon, N.E., minsan pag nagawi ka ng Dingalan madadaanan mo yun kalbong kalbo talaga, kaya nalulusaw na lang pag bumabagyo yung gilid ng bundok

[barrera_marquez]

yung gawi ng Minalungao (part Nueva Ecija, part Bulacan), Dona Remedios Trinidad daw ang madaming insurgents, tapos dami pa illegal loggers... kaya tuloy bumabaha sa ibaba pag umuulan kinakalbo nila yung bundok

mukhang hopeless case na yung kaingin issue jan sa Gabaldon, N.E., minsan pag nagawi ka ng Dingalan madadaanan mo yun kalbong kalbo talaga, kaya nalulusaw na lang pag bumabagyo yung gilid ng bundok

Can the DENR do something about the case there in Gabaldon? Not to mention diyan bumagsak ang chopper na sinasakyan ni Dr. Raymundo Punongbayan. (sumalangit nawa ang kaluluwa niya)

Now speaking of the NPAs, it is alright that they are there as long as they are not causing any kinds of trouble there.

[Asturiano]

Why are we celebrating Nueva ecija day on September 2 when according to this documents Nueva ecija was proclaimed free of spanish joke only in July 3 1898?

Acta de la proclamacion de la independencia de la provincia de Nueva Ecija , 3 de Julio de 1898
Pablo Padilla, et al.

Padilla, Pablo, et al. Acta de la proclamacion de la independencia de la provincia de Nueva Ecija . San Ysidro, Nueva Ecija , 3 de Julio de 1898.


Reel 24, folio 626-629 of the Philippine Revolutionary Records


BUOD: Ang ang mga mamamayan, pinunong sibil at militar ng Nueva Ecija , sa pamumuno ng kinatawan ng Republika ng Pilipinas na si Sr. Pablo Padilla y Abesamis, ay ipinapahayag ang kalayaan ng lalawigan, sang-ayon na rin sa kautusan ni Sr. Mariano Llanera. Ang proklamasyong ito ay napakahalaga sa mga Novo Ecija nos, na kagaya ng mga Caviteños, ay inihayag din ang kalayaan ng Pilipinas.

Isinulat ni Luis Camara Dery, Ph. D

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY: The people, military and civil officials of Nueva Ecija province, led by Special representative of the Filipino Republic Sr. Pablo Padilla y Abesamis, proclaim the independence of the province in compliance with the circular issued by Sr. Mariano Llanera. This proclamation is significant for the Novo Ecija nos who, like the Caviteños, also proclaimed the independence of the Philippines.

Written by Luis Camara Dery, Ph. D.
En el pueblo de San Ysidro Cabecera de la misma provincia de Nueva Ecija a tres de Julio de mil ochocientos noventa y ocho ante miSr. Pablo Padilla y Abesamis, Comandante delegado especial nombrado para proclamar y solemnizar este acto por el Gobierno Dictatorial provincial de esta provincia, al efecto y en virtud de la orden circular del Dictador de la provincia Sr. Mariano Llanera congregados los principales Jefes de su ejercito y los representantes de los otros y que no pudieran concurrir y vecinos notables de esta provincia, teniendo en cuenta, que causadas sus habitanters del pesado yugo español, y agotada todos los medios pasificos para mejoprar la situacion Filipina, sin que consiguieran otra cosa que, la mas terrible crueldad en sus procedimientos ilegales, infames asesinatos y otras mil causas que no caben tolerar dentro de la mas estricta prudencia y teniendo en cuenta ademas el rapido progreso de esta insurreccion y siendo vencidas las provincias maritimas Kavite, Batangas, Zambales y otras muchas provincias que aseguran nuestra independencia, como la rectitud de nuestras intenciones que no hay mas otro Juez que el Supremo Hacedor y la proteccion de la potente y humanitaria Nacion Norte Americana proclamamos y declaramos solemnemente en nombre y por la Autoridad de los habitantes de todas estas Yslas Filipinas que son y tienen el derecho de ser libres y independientes que estan destijados de toda obediencia a la corona de España, que todo laso politico debe esta completamente roto y anulado, y que, como todos los Estados libres e independientes, tienen plena autoridad para hacer la Guerra, concluir la paz celebrar tratados mercantiles, contraer aliansas, reglamentar el Comercio y realizar todo demas actos y cosas que los Estados Yndependientes tienen el derecho de hacer, y poseidos de firme confianza en la proteccion de la Divina Providencia, comprometemos mutuamente para sostenimiento de esta declaracion nuestras vidas, nuestras fortunas y nuestro bien mas sagrado que es el honor. Admitimos, aprobamos y confirmamos con las disposiciones emanadas de ella la Dictadura constituida por Don Emilio Aguinaldo de esta Nacion que empiesa ya nhoy a tener vida propia por creer haber sido el instrumento elegido por Dios, a pesar de sus humildes dotes, para efectuar la redencion de este desdichado pueblo, confirmamos a nuestro renombrado Dictador D. Emilio Aguinaldo todas las facultades necesarias para desempeñar debidamente que esta nacion ya Yndependiente desde hoy, debe usar la bandera que hasta ahora sigue usando, cuya forma y colores se hallan descritos en el adjunto dibujo con el remate que representa al natural las tres armas, significando el triangulo llamo como distintivo de celebre sociedad “Katipunan” que por medio de pacto de sangre empujo a las masas a insurreccionarse; representando las tres principales Yslas de esta Archipielago Luzon, Mindanao y Panay en que estallo este movimiento insurreccional; indicando el sol los agigantados pazos que han dado los hijos de este Pais en el camino del progreso y civilizacion; simbolizando los ocho rayos de aquel las ocho provincias Manila, Cavite, Bulacan, Pampanga, Nueva Ecija , Bataan, Laguna y Batangas declarados en estado de Guerra apenas se inicio la primera insurreccion; y conmemorando los colores azul, rojo y blanco los de la bandera de los Estados Unidos de la A,Erica del Norte, como manifestacion de nuestro profundo agradecimiento hacia esta Gran Nacion por la disenteresada proteccion que nos presta y seguira prestando. Y empuñando dicha bandera la presente a los congregados los cuales juraron solemnemente reconocerla y defenderla hasta la ultima gota de nuestra sangre. De todo lo cual extiendo la presente Acta que en este Acto de que certifico.

Pablo Padilla, etc.

[CabanNgTuwa]

Why are we celebrating Nueva ecija day on September 2 when according to this documents Nueva ecija was proclaimed free of spanish joke only in July 3 1898?

Acta de la proclamacion de la independencia de la provincia de Nueva Ecija , 3 de Julio de 1898
Pablo Padilla, et al.

Padilla, Pablo, et al. Acta de la proclamacion de la independencia de la provincia de Nueva Ecija . San Ysidro, Nueva Ecija , 3 de Julio de 1898.


Reel 24, folio 626-629 of the Philippine Revolutionary Records


BUOD: Ang ang mga mamamayan, pinunong sibil at militar ng Nueva Ecija , sa pamumuno ng kinatawan ng Republika ng Pilipinas na si Sr. Pablo Padilla y Abesamis, ay ipinapahayag ang kalayaan ng lalawigan, sang-ayon na rin sa kautusan ni Sr. Mariano Llanera. Ang proklamasyong ito ay napakahalaga sa mga Novo Ecija nos, na kagaya ng mga Caviteños, ay inihayag din ang kalayaan ng Pilipinas.

Isinulat ni Luis Camara Dery, Ph. D

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY: The people, military and civil officials of Nueva Ecija province, led by Special representative of the Filipino Republic Sr. Pablo Padilla y Abesamis, proclaim the independence of the province in compliance with the circular issued by Sr. Mariano Llanera. This proclamation is significant for the Novo Ecija nos who, like the Caviteños, also proclaimed the independence of the Philippines.

Written by Luis Camara Dery, Ph. D.
En el pueblo de San Ysidro Cabecera de la misma provincia de Nueva Ecija a tres de Julio de mil ochocientos noventa y ocho ante miSr. Pablo Padilla y Abesamis, Comandante delegado especial nombrado para proclamar y solemnizar este acto por el Gobierno Dictatorial provincial de esta provincia, al efecto y en virtud de la orden circular del Dictador de la provincia Sr. Mariano Llanera congregados los principales Jefes de su ejercito y los representantes de los otros y que no pudieran concurrir y vecinos notables de esta provincia, teniendo en cuenta, que causadas sus habitanters del pesado yugo español, y agotada todos los medios pasificos para mejoprar la situacion Filipina, sin que consiguieran otra cosa que, la mas terrible crueldad en sus procedimientos ilegales, infames asesinatos y otras mil causas que no caben tolerar dentro de la mas estricta prudencia y teniendo en cuenta ademas el rapido progreso de esta insurreccion y siendo vencidas las provincias maritimas Kavite, Batangas, Zambales y otras muchas provincias que aseguran nuestra independencia, como la rectitud de nuestras intenciones que no hay mas otro Juez que el Supremo Hacedor y la proteccion de la potente y humanitaria Nacion Norte Americana proclamamos y declaramos solemnemente en nombre y por la Autoridad de los habitantes de todas estas Yslas Filipinas que son y tienen el derecho de ser libres y independientes que estan destijados de toda obediencia a la corona de España, que todo laso politico debe esta completamente roto y anulado, y que, como todos los Estados libres e independientes, tienen plena autoridad para hacer la Guerra, concluir la paz celebrar tratados mercantiles, contraer aliansas, reglamentar el Comercio y realizar todo demas actos y cosas que los Estados Yndependientes tienen el derecho de hacer, y poseidos de firme confianza en la proteccion de la Divina Providencia, comprometemos mutuamente para sostenimiento de esta declaracion nuestras vidas, nuestras fortunas y nuestro bien mas sagrado que es el honor. Admitimos, aprobamos y confirmamos con las disposiciones emanadas de ella la Dictadura constituida por Don Emilio Aguinaldo de esta Nacion que empiesa ya nhoy a tener vida propia por creer haber sido el instrumento elegido por Dios, a pesar de sus humildes dotes, para efectuar la redencion de este desdichado pueblo, confirmamos a nuestro renombrado Dictador D. Emilio Aguinaldo todas las facultades necesarias para desempeñar debidamente que esta nacion ya Yndependiente desde hoy, debe usar la bandera que hasta ahora sigue usando, cuya forma y colores se hallan descritos en el adjunto dibujo con el remate que representa al natural las tres armas, significando el triangulo llamo como distintivo de celebre sociedad “Katipunan” que por medio de pacto de sangre empujo a las masas a insurreccionarse; representando las tres principales Yslas de esta Archipielago Luzon, Mindanao y Panay en que estallo este movimiento insurreccional; indicando el sol los agigantados pazos que han dado los hijos de este Pais en el camino del progreso y civilizacion; simbolizando los ocho rayos de aquel las ocho provincias Manila, Cavite, Bulacan, Pampanga, Nueva Ecija , Bataan, Laguna y Batangas declarados en estado de Guerra apenas se inicio la primera insurreccion; y conmemorando los colores azul, rojo y blanco los de la bandera de los Estados Unidos de la A,Erica del Norte, como manifestacion de nuestro profundo agradecimiento hacia esta Gran Nacion por la disenteresada proteccion que nos presta y seguira prestando. Y empuñando dicha bandera la presente a los congregados los cuales juraron solemnemente reconocerla y defenderla hasta la ultima gota de nuestra sangre. De todo lo cual extiendo la presente Acta que en este Acto de que certifico.

Pablo Padilla, etc.

Nice find bro! nakita ko nga yan sa Filipiniana.net. pero IMHO, nakagawian lang ng mga taga NE yung celebration na yan (NE day), haha kamag-anak ko pa yata si Sr. Pablo Padilla, may tsismis pa nga raw na yung nanay ni Robin Padilla taga Penaranda

[barrera_marquez]

Etymology of Nueva Ecija cities:

Cabanatuan- Kaban ng tuwa sa Tagalog (tama si CabanNgTuwa sa kanyang username, ito talaga ang pinanggalingan nito, promise!)

Gapan- there are two legends from where they got the city name:

Noong mga panahon na ang lugar ay kahuyan pa, ang mga Kastila ay dumating sa isang misyon nang may nakita silang mga taga-roon at gumagapang. Pinahinto sila at dahil hindi alam kung paano magsalita ng lokal na dayalekto ay tinanong sila sa wikang Kastila. Ang mga taga-roon ay walang alam sa wikang Kastila at sa pag-aakalang tinatanong kung ano ang ginagawa nila, sumagot sila sa Tagalog, "Gumagapang gapang kami." Kinuha itong pangalan ng mga Kastila at sa paglipas ng panahon, nawala ang "g" at nanatili ang pangalan na Gapan hanggang ngayon.
Ayon sa isa pang alamat, ang pangalan ay nanggaling sa umaakyat at gumagapang na mga halaman na sagana sa lugar.


Munoz- Don Francisco Muñoz; ang alcalde mayor noong mga panahon na kakatatag pa lamang ng dating bayan na ito.

Palayan- Rice field

San Jose- San Jose (yung santo) bago ito maging San Jose ang tawag dito ay Kabaritan.

Source:
Wikipedia

Yung sa Cabanatuan- nakita ko na lang sa internet ang source pero hindi ko na matandaan ang URL.

[CabanNgTuwa]

haha, ayos to, teka yun bang Munoz dito sa QC eh galing din sa Munoz, Nueva Ecija? Feeling ko kasi pag nasa Munoz QC ako, nasa NE din ako...

O.T.: naaalala nyo noong panahon ng mga kastila noong una silang dumating eh yung mga Pilipino daw eh pare-parehas ang apelyido?

Mga sinaunang Pilipino - sobrang galang (Panay ang Po at Opo):


Kastila: "Ikaw, anong pangalan mo?"
Pinoy 1: "Pedro Po!"
Kastila: "Ikaw naman, ano din ang pangalan mo?"
Pinoy 1: "Juan Po!"
Kastila: "At ikaw, sino ka?"
Pinoy 1: "Teban Po!"
Kastila: "Pare-parehas pala kayo o wala pala kayong mga apelyido, mula ngayon bibigyan namin kayo ng iba't-ibang apelyido, ito ay alang-alang sa aming mga Kastila, ikaw Pedro, ay magiging si Pedro Morales, ika Juan ay magiging Juan Dela Cruz, at ikaw Teban ay magiging si Teban Santos!"

magmula noon, dahil sa mga Espanyol, nagkaroon ng apelyido ang mga Pilipino...

[barrera_marquez]

haha, ayos to, teka yun bang Munoz dito sa QC eh galing din sa Munoz, Nueva Ecija? Feeling ko kasi pag nasa Munoz QC ako, nasa NE din ako...

O.T.: naaalala nyo noong panahon ng mga kastila noong una silang dumating eh yung mga Pilipino daw eh pare-parehas ang apelyido?

Mga sinaunang Pilipino - sobrang galang (Panay ang Po at Opo):


Kastila: "Ikaw, anong pangalan mo?"
Pinoy 1: "Pedro Po!"
Kastila: "Ikaw naman, ano din ang pangalan mo?"
Pinoy 1: "Juan Po!"
Kastila: "At ikaw, sino ka?"
Pinoy 1: "Teban Po!"
Kastila: "Pare-parehas pala kayo o wala pala kayong mga apelyido, mula ngayon bibigyan namin kayo ng iba't-ibang apelyido, ito ay alang-alang sa aming mga Kastila, ikaw Pedro, ay magiging si Pedro Morales, ika Juan ay magiging Juan Dela Cruz, at ikaw Teban ay magiging si Teban Santos!"

magmula noon, dahil sa mga Espanyol, nagkaroon ng apelyido ang mga Pilipino...

Hindi ko alam, pero malamang naunang tawagin Munoz ang sa NE kaysa sa QC.

[Asturiano]

Some of the towns in nueva ecija got its name from the towns in Spain.
Ex. Aliaga after the name of spanish nobility
Jaen from Jaen Andalucia
Mallorca de San Leonardo after Mallorca in the Balearic islands
Zaragoza after Zaragoza de Aragon
Talavera after Talavera de la reina
Llanera after general Llanera but there is also name Llanera in Asturias, Spain
Penaranda after Penaranda del duero
I guess the first residents of Munoz Quezon city was originally from Munoz that's why they name the street after their town, but wait, there is also Dagupan in Tondo does it also got its name from Dagupan Pangasinan ?

[Asturiano]

Nice find bro! nakita ko nga yan sa Filipiniana.net. pero IMHO, nakagawian lang ng mga taga NE yung celebration na yan (NE day), haha kamag-anak ko pa yata si Sr. Pablo Padilla, may tsismis pa nga raw na yung nanay ni Robin Padilla taga Penaranda

If your great great grandfather was originally from Nueva Ecija perhaps your are related to Sr. Pablo Padilla and maybe Robins' mother too which I heard was from Cuyapo not Penaranda.

[CabanNgTuwa]

If your great great grandfather was originally from Nueva Ecija perhaps your are related to Sr. Pablo Padilla and maybe Robins' mother too which I heard was from Cuyapo not Penaranda.

sorry, my bad:ohno:; si aling Eva pala ang taga-Cuyapo& si Vice Governor Padilla (tatay ni Robin) ang taga Penaranda (or Camarines hehe), originally, tapos si Zsa-Zsa taga Penaranda din daw... that is, according to sources; halos lahat ng mga professionals ng Penaranda lumilipat sa Manila simply because of the scarce job opportunity there

[barrera_marquez]

sorry, my bad:ohno:; si aling Eva pala ang taga-Cuyapo& si Vice Governor Padilla (tatay ni Robin) ang taga Penaranda (or Camarines hehe), originally, tapos si Zsa-Zsa taga Penaranda din daw... that is, according to sources; halos lahat ng mga professionals ng Penaranda lumilipat sa Manila simply because of the scarce job opportunity there

Teka nga pala CabanNgTuwa saan ka eksakto sa Cabanatuan City?

[CabanNgTuwa]

Teka nga pala CabanNgTuwa saan ka eksakto sa Cabanatuan City?

along Mabini boulevard ako bro, ikaw saan mga relatives mo dito? hindi ba taga Caloocan ka? jan naman sa Manila, Fairview kami

[barrera_marquez]

along Mabini boulevard ako bro, ikaw saan mga relatives mo dito? hindi ba taga Caloocan ka? jan naman sa Manila, Fairview kami

yup... you're right. How did you know? Saang barangay? At nasa Cabanatuan City ka ngayon?

I still remember that place when I was a toddler. That place was very special to me actually, since it was the first province I have been into. I grew up there until I studied here in Manila actually. Memorable place from past up to present naalala ko kasi special someone ko kapag nariyan ako. Ako kasi sa may Barrera District kaya nga yung username ko e...

[CabanNgTuwa]

yup... you're right. How did you know? Saang barangay? At nasa Cabanatuan City ka ngayon?

I still remember that place when I was a toddler. That place was very special to me actually, since it was the first province I have been into. I grew up there until I studied here in Manila actually. Memorable place from past up to present naalala ko kasi special someone ko kapag nariyan ako. Ako kasi sa may Barrera District kaya nga yung username ko e...

nabasa ko lang sa thread hehe, I also studied college there in Manila (FEU) hehe, pag nagawi ka dito EB tayo; teka ilang taon ka na ba? alam ko kasi teenager ka pa lang ako kasi may family at kid na... kelan uwi mo dito? marami sana kong gustong ipost ng pics ng nueva ecija kaso no chance to take pics

[barrera_marquez]

nabasa ko lang sa thread hehe, I also studied college there in Manila (FEU) hehe, pag nagawi ka dito EB tayo; teka ilang taon ka na ba? alam ko kasi teenager ka pa lang ako kasi may family at kid na... kelan uwi mo dito? marami sana kong gustong ipost ng pics ng nueva ecija kaso no chance to take pics

Maybe tomorrow, nandyan lang ako para mag-strolling bukas (just to revisit our memories) kaya hindi ako matutulog diyan. Mabigat pa rin kasi loob ko ngayon, masakit kasi ang nangyari sa amin... kaya nga minsan ayoko munang pumunta riyan kasi maalala ko lang siya... :cry:

[barrera_marquez]

Down ang website ng dalawang major cities ng Nueva Ecija... the rest of the cities remain online (that is, San Jose City, Gapan City and Science City of Munoz) attention sa mga webmasters ng mga sites na ito:

Palayan City Official Website:
http://www.palayancity.gov.ph/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1&Itemid=1

Cabanatuan City Official Website:
http://www.cityofcabanatuan.gov.ph/index.php

Medyo naawa ako sa website ng Cabanatuan City, walang kalaman-laman at yung mga information medyo outdated na, tinuringan pa man ding isang major city ng Pilipinas... lagi kong nakikita sa listahan kasi ng mga lungsod ng Pilipinas...

nabasa ko lang sa thread hehe, I also studied college there in Manila (FEU) hehe, pag nagawi ka dito EB tayo; teka ilang taon ka na ba? alam ko kasi teenager ka pa lang ako kasi may family at kid na... kelan uwi mo dito? marami sana kong gustong ipost ng pics ng nueva ecija kaso no chance to take pics

Tanong lang bro, ano ba yung EB?

By the way, the entrance arch of Nueva Ecija from San Miguel, Bulacan was repainted with a darker blue color... maganda na siya ngayon hindi tulad ng dati kong picture ng welcome arch ng Nueva Ecija, parang kupas ang kulay.

May dalawa akong bad news:

Nagtaas ng pamasahe ang Baliwag Transit Incoporated ng kanilang pamasahe papuntang Cabanatuan City (and we are talking the fare from Caloocan/Cubao to Cabanatuan Central Terminal). Ang dating P158 ay naging P185 na! At may plano pa silang magtaas ng pamasahe ulit at kapag natuloy, magiging P196 na ito!
Hindi na 3 hours lang ang biyahe papuntang Cabanatuan City. Nadagdagan na ito ng kalahating oras kaya ngayon ay 3 1/2 hours ka nang bibiyahe mula Manila papuntang Cabanatuan City.

[Asturiano]

Aba mataas na iyon 175 pesos na fare para sa pangkaraniwan tao, siguro madalang lang ang bumabiyahe sa Manila ngayon. Dito nga sa Seattle halos $4 na ang gasolina di mas lalo siguro mas mahal pa diyan sa Filipinas. Halos doble na pala ang fair ngayon noong umuwi ako 75 pesos lang yata. Di mas mahal pala pag gumamit ng private car pauwi ng N.E. kasi sa gasolina plang patay na.

[barrera_marquez]

Tanong lang mga bro, are we (Cabanatuan City) still very dependent on our IRA? Yung mamamatay tayo sa oras na hindi natin matanggap ang IRA natin?

At saka, in case na maubusan ka ng pamasahe at nasa Cabanatuan City ka pabalik ng Manila, may tutulong ba sa iyo? And we mean here wala kang kakilala roon.

[CabanNgTuwa]

grabe pala ang taas na rin pala ng pamasahe ngayon! last week lang kasasakay ko ng five star 158 nga Cubao tapos ngayon 185 na! Kaya nga ako nagbu-bus para makatipid eh kasi pag may service ka naman balikan ng Manila nasa P1500 na! toll fee pa of P300! kaya pala puno ang ordinary bus paluwas kasi madami nagtitipid

bro EB = eye ball

[Asturiano]

The question is how many people have an IRA in Cabanatuan? I guess only those people who can afford to pay them, Its good if the person outlive thier retirement age but if they die early everything is lost.

[barrera_marquez]

grabe pala ang taas na rin pala ng pamasahe ngayon! last week lang kasasakay ko ng five star 158 nga Cubao tapos ngayon 185 na! Kaya nga ako nagbu-bus para makatipid eh kasi pag may service ka naman balikan ng Manila nasa P1500 na! toll fee pa of P300! kaya pala puno ang ordinary bus paluwas kasi madami nagtitipid

bro EB = eye ball

@CabanNgTuwa
Well no thanks pero hindi mahilig sa eye ball kuya. Pasensya na po...

Ang Baliwag this week lang nagtaas. Bakit yata ang aga ng pagtaas ng pamasahe sa Five Star?

@Asturiano

We mean the IRA of Cabanatuan City itself since San Fernando City, Pampanga relies heavily on its IRA, yun bang kumbaga mamamatay kami sa oras na walang IRA ng isang buwan man lang...

[barrera_marquez]

May ginto ba talaga tayo sa Palayan City mga bro? Nakita ko lang kasi sa article ng Wikipedia about Nueva Ecija:

"Several areas have mineral deposits. Copper and manganese have been found in Gen. Tinio, Carranglan, and Pantabangan. The upper reaches of Carranglan and Palayan City are said to contain gold."

This might trigger a gold rush there, therefore hastening the development of that city. But this will also jeopardize the agriculture sector of the entire province especially in Cabanatuan City... since rivers flow into Palayan City and they might contaminate it... best to leave it alone...

P.S.: Bukas na ulit ang websites ng mga major cities ng Nueva Ecija... good work sa mga webmasters nila! But still, kulang pa rin ang information ng mga websites nila... still the same before the websites went down.

[CabanNgTuwa]

that pertains I think to Bongabon, Nueva Ecija; this is where elders believe that the Japanese have hidden the gold during WW2 days... marami ngang nasisira ang ulo doon sa Treasure Hunting sa gawi na yun, as a matter of fact, I have a cousin who engages in some related activities, he said that foreign firms have also invested in that arena, ang di ko lang alam kung may nakukuha talaga sila:lol:

by the way, yung Bongabon is the local version of Mt. Banahaw with its very own Mt. Olivete, the mystical mountain and the haven of the so-called "Rizalistas":ohno:

[barrera_marquez]

that pertains I think to Bongabon, Nueva Ecija; this is where elders believe that the Japanese have hidden the gold during WW2 days... marami ngang nasisira ang ulo doon sa Treasure Hunting sa gawi na yun, as a matter of fact, I have a cousin who engages in some related activities, he said that foreign firms have also invested in that arena, ang di ko lang alam kung may nakukuha talaga sila:lol:

by the way, yung Bongabon is the local version of Mt. Banahaw with its very own Mt. Olivete, the mystical mountain and the haven of the so-called "Rizalistas":ohno:

Okey lang mag-gold rush sila roon as long as they keep the rivers clean. Dahil kung hindi, siguradong magkakaubusan ng palay kasi sa ilog sila kumukuha ng tubig e... not to mention mauuso pa ang mga patay na kalabaw (oh no!) sa kalsada dahil doon din sila yata umiinom at yung mga palaisdaan e mapupuno ng mga isdang patay.

[freightrunner]

The question is how many people have an IRA in Cabanatuan? I guess only those people who can afford to pay them, Its good if the person outlive thier retirement age but if they die early everything is lost.
Makasabat na nga po. Ang ibig pong sabihin ni kapatid Barrera Marquez sa nabanggit niyang IRA ay Internal Revenue Allotment. Ito po ang bahagi ng mga gobyerno lokal na pera mula sa gobyerno nasional na kung ilang porsyento at batay po ito sa porsyento rin ng populasion ng lungsod, munisipalidad o lalawigan. Wala po itong kinalaman sa Individual Retirement Account na tinatawag sa Amerika. Sa Pilipinas karamihan ng mga pamahalaang lokal ay umaasa lamang sa IRA nila para sa pagpapatakbo ng kanilang gobyerno dahil sa ayaw nilang magtaas ng buis at natatakot sila na baka hindi na sila ulit iboto ng mga tao sa susunod na halalan. Hindi rin naman sila gumagawa ng paraan para maipaliwanag ito sa mga taong bayan para hindi sana sila aasa na lang sa IRA nila. Ang mga malalaking lungsod sa mga metropolitan areas lamang siguro ang hindi umaasa rito at marami silang pinagkukuhanan ng pondo.

[barrera_marquez]

Makasabat na nga po. Ang ibig pong sabihin ni kapatid Barrera Marquez sa nabanggit niyang IRA ay Internal Revenue Allotment. Ito po ang bahagi ng mga gobyerno lokal na pera mula sa gobyerno nasional na kung ilang porsyento at batay po ito sa porsyento rin ng populasion ng lungsod, munisipalidad o lalawigan. Wala po itong kinalaman sa Individual Retirement Account na tinatawag sa Amerika. Sa Pilipinas karamihan ng mga pamahalaang lokal ay umaasa lamang sa IRA nila para sa pagpapatakbo ng kanilang gobyerno dahil sa ayaw nilang magtaas ng buis at natatakot sila na baka hindi na sila ulit iboto ng mga tao sa susunod na halalan. Hindi rin naman sila gumagawa ng paraan para maipaliwanag ito sa mga taong bayan para hindi sana sila aasa na lang sa IRA nila. Ang mga malalaking lungsod sa mga metropolitan areas lamang siguro ang hindi umaasa rito at marami silang pinagkukuhanan ng pondo.

Wow very informative! Salamat sa iyo kapatid... :okay:

[CabanNgTuwa]

I've heard that there will be a tollway to be built connecting Cabanatuan City with Talavera , with entrance points at the back of NE Pacific Mall, traversing the rice fields of Brgy. Polilio, and Caalibangbangan up to La Torre, Talavera (Km. 127 of Maharlika Highway); this will save us time when going up north (San Jose, CV)... it was the idea of then-Mayor Julius Vergara so that motorists will avoid the bottleneck traffic situation of Cabanatuan City, with a only a minimal toll fee to boot... remember, we will save an extra hour or so if this pushes through

[barrera_marquez]

I've heard that there will be a tollway to be built connecting Cabanatuan City with Talavera , with entrance points at the back of NE Pacific Mall, traversing the rice fields of Brgy. Polilio, and Caalibangbangan up to La Torre, Talavera (Km. 127 of Maharlika Highway); this will save us time when going up north (San Jose, CV)... it was the idea of then-Mayor Julius Vergara so that motorists will avoid the bottleneck traffic situation of Cabanatuan City, with a only a minimal toll fee to boot... remember, we will save an extra hour or so if this pushes through

I saw it already, they are already leveling the land and this could be a segment of the much-awaited North Luzon East Expressway. Kung papunta kayo ng Manila from Cabanatuan Central Terminal makikita niyo yun since dumadaan ang mga bus na pabalik ng Manila sa likod ng NE Pacific Mall.

[barrera_marquez]

Cabanatuan barangay chair shot dead
http://www2.mozcom.com/~ecijano/

The chair of Barangay Barlis, Cabanatuan City was shot dead last May 5.

Sr. Supt. Napoleon Taas, Nueva Ecija police director, said the victim, Marcos Soriano, was sitting on a bench with his wife in a bingo stall in Barangay Mayapyap Norte when a gunman shot him at close range at about 12:15 AM.

The victim was hit in the right cheek and rushed to a nearby hospital but was declared dead on arrival.

The gunman casually walked away, got on black motorcycle driven by a companion and escaped.

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Head-shot si Kapitan doon a!

[CabanNgTuwa]

Cabanatuan barangay chair shot dead
http://www2.mozcom.com/~ecijano/

The chair of Barangay Barlis, Cabanatuan City was shot dead last May 5.

Sr. Supt. Napoleon Taas, Nueva Ecija police director, said the victim, Marcos Soriano, was sitting on a bench with his wife in a bingo stall in Barangay Mayapyap Norte when a gunman shot him at close range at about 12:15 AM.

The victim was hit in the right cheek and rushed to a nearby hospital but was declared dead on arrival.

The gunman casually walked away, got on black motorcycle driven by a companion and escaped.

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Head-shot si Kapitan doon a!

hanep, kangino kaya kampi yung kapitan na yan? I think this is the second time around since this is just a repeat of last year's (or 2006's?) killing of an ABC captain of NE; rumors were that ABC captain just recently had a cockfight in a nearby cockpit arena owned by the former "strongholds" of NE, and according to them sources, "may nabanggit daw na hindi mainam" kay ex-gov yung kapitan na yun

should've learned their lessons, yung pagiging kampante at palaging naka-display sa labas ng bahay or any other public place will not guarantee safety for them politicians; my mom's been asked to grab a position as consultant for the prov'l. capitol but I told her, no way Ma!

[barrera_marquez]

hanep, kangino kaya kampi yung kapitan na yan? I think this is the second time around since this is just a repeat of last year's (or 2006's?) killing of an ABC captain of NE; rumors were that ABC captain just recently had a cockfight in a nearby cockpit arena owned by the former "strongholds" of NE, and according to them sources, "may nabanggit daw na hindi mainam" kay ex-gov yung kapitan na yun

should've learned their lessons, yung pagiging kampante at palaging naka-display sa labas ng bahay or any other public place will not guarantee safety for them politicians; my mom's been asked to grab a position as consultant for the prov'l. capitol but I told her, no way Ma!

just like what I said...

"Kung hindi palay ang gagalaw sa Nueva Ecija, malamang bala na..."

Sa Licab yata maraming nagaganap na patayan...

May tanong lang ako, ano ang isang bagay na mayroon lahat ang kanyang 5 lungsod?

[CabanNgTuwa]

just like what I said...

"Kung hindi palay ang gagalaw sa Nueva Ecija, malamang bala na..."

Sa Licab yata maraming nagaganap na patayan...

May tanong lang ako, ano ang isang bagay na mayroon lahat ang kanyang 5 lungsod?

yun ang di ko alam; hindi pa rin ako napupunta ng Licab, Nampicuan, Talugtug all my life, pero alam ko marami nga raw NPA dun, para ngang "lawless" sa mga areas na yun kasi malayo sa kabihasnan and dun naghahasik ng lagim mga insurgents, alam kasi nila, marami silang puwedeng pagtaguan umakyat lang sila ng bundok ng Cuyapo di na sila makikita dun:lol:

[barrera_marquez]

yun ang di ko alam; hindi pa rin ako napupunta ng Licab, Nampicuan, Talugtug all my life, pero alam ko marami nga raw NPA dun, para ngang "lawless" sa mga areas na yun kasi malayo sa kabihasnan and dun naghahasik ng lagim mga insurgents, alam kasi nila, marami silang puwedeng pagtaguan umakyat lang sila ng bundok ng Cuyapo di na sila makikita dun:lol:

Malayo nga sila sa atin sa Cabanatuan City... ibang-iba ang Cabanatuan City at ang natitirang 4 na lungsod ng Nueva Ecija sa mga bayan (and we mean bayan, meaning Gapan City isn't included) sa dulo ng Nueva Ecija.

Tanong ko lang Kuya Caban, ano ang ibig sabihin ng ABC? Are you referring to the ABC 5 TV station or something else? And I know the former strongholds you are saying, it could be the J's.

[CabanNgTuwa]

(ABC) - Association of Barangay Captains
heto yung sinasabi ko dati na parang round 2 ng balita mo:
http://www2.mozcom.com/~ecijano/12312006.html

[barrera_marquez]

Ang tatapang pala natin dahil nakatira tayo sa Nueva Ecija, wherein the reign of terror exists.

[CabanNgTuwa]

Ang tatapang pala natin dahil nakatira nasa Nueva Ecija tayo, wherein the reign of terror exists.

"matatapang ang apog" :nuts:
it's ridiculous to know na they will do anything, even to the point of killing people just to stay in power... yung nangyari rin sa Jaen matindi din nung nakaraang eleksyon; pero kahit saan naman basta sa pinas asahan mo pare-parehas lang na "bala ang gagalaw"...

[barrera_marquez]

Kuya ano na pong balita sa itatayong tollway sa likod ng NE Pacific Mall at kailan po ito matatapos?

I got this shot while I am riding a bus going to Cabanatuan City Central Terminal... ito yung likod ng NE Pacific Mall pero noong April ko pa nakuha ito, dito po ba itatayo iyong tollway, sa may lupa na marami pong pine trees?
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2367/2420034353_d5648f2588.jpg

I love this province!!! I'm proud of it!!!

[CabanNgTuwa]

Kuya ano na pong balita sa itatayong tollway sa likod ng NE Pacific Mall at kailan po ito matatapos?

I got this shot while I am riding a bus going to Cabanatuan City Central Terminal... ito yung likod ng NE Pacific Mall pero noong April ko pa nakuha ito, dito po ba itatayo iyong tollway, sa may lupa na marami pong pine trees?
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2367/2420034353_d5648f2588.jpg

I love this province!!! I'm proud of it!!!

as far as i know, sa gilid niyan, kasi subdivision lots (Don Jose & Acropolis) na yang may sakop diyan, diyan din ako dumadaan pag paluwas kasi sobra traffic sa Pacific lately; basta yung mismong likod ng Pacific Mall may service road dun at may tulay papunta Aliaga/Talavera, ginagawa na yata kalsada pero mukhang matatagalan pa matapos

napansin niyo ba, wala tayong seaside/dagat sa NE? balak daw i secede sana yung Dingalan pero hindi papayag Aurora hehe

[barrera_marquez]

as far as i know, sa gilid niyan, kasi subdivision lots (Don Jose & Acropolis) na yang may sakop diyan, diyan din ako dumadaan pag paluwas kasi sobra traffic sa Pacific lately; basta yung mismong likod ng Pacific Mall may service road dun at may tulay papunta Aliaga/Talavera, ginagawa na yata kalsada pero mukhang matatagalan pa matapos

napansin niyo ba, wala tayong seaside/dagat sa NE? balak daw i secede sana yung Dingalan pero hindi papayag Aurora hehe

talaga lang ha? let's see at talaga namang hindi papayag ang Aurora diyan (anong lalawigan ba ang nais mawalan ng teritoryo?) but who knows? Baka makalusot... teka Kuya Cabs, saan niyo po ba nakuha iyan?

[Asturiano]

Why don't we just proposed a union of the two province of Aurora and Nueva Ecija. Aurora is economically and geographically just depended on Nueva Ecija. Besides, history told us that it used to be part of the big province of Nueva Ecija before it became part of Tabayas and now an Independent province. Palayan will be a good capital because is not too far from Baler and Dingalan. In term of the Union, the two province will benefit from each other, is a win win solution, Cabanatuan will be the commercial and business city while Palayan is the politcal and Baler and Dingalan will be the main ports. The proposed name will be The United Province of Aurora and Nueva Ecija.

[Asturiano]

Makasabat na nga po. Ang ibig pong sabihin ni kapatid Barrera Marquez sa nabanggit niyang IRA ay Internal Revenue Allotment. Ito po ang bahagi ng mga gobyerno lokal na pera mula sa gobyerno nasional na kung ilang porsyento at batay po ito sa porsyento rin ng populasion ng lungsod, munisipalidad o lalawigan. Wala po itong kinalaman sa Individual Retirement Account na tinatawag sa Amerika. Sa Pilipinas karamihan ng mga pamahalaang lokal ay umaasa lamang sa IRA nila para sa pagpapatakbo ng kanilang gobyerno dahil sa ayaw nilang magtaas ng buis at natatakot sila na baka hindi na sila ulit iboto ng mga tao sa susunod na halalan. Hindi rin naman sila gumagawa ng paraan para maipaliwanag ito sa mga taong bayan para hindi sana sila aasa na lang sa IRA nila. Ang mga malalaking lungsod sa mga metropolitan areas lamang siguro ang hindi umaasa rito at marami silang pinagkukuhanan ng pondo.

Thanks a lot, your post was very informative. I thought that he was referring to an IRA just like what they have here in the U.S. That's why I'm quite surprised that they even have one in Cabanatuan. I don't know that the IRA they have their in the Philippines is some type of National goverment aid to the local governemnt. Where else could the government get money unless they collect and raise taxes because otherwise they might have to borrow from other counties or world bank just think of interest alone is quite big.

[freightrunner]

Why don't we just proposed a union of the two province of Aurora and Nueva Ecija. Aurora is economically and geographically just depended on Nueva Ecija. Besides, history told us that it used to be part of the big province of Nueva Ecija before it became part of Tabayas and now an Independent province. Palayan will be a good capital because is not too far from Baler and Dingalan. In term of the Union, the two province will benefit from each other, is a win win solution, Cabanatuan will be the commercial and business city while Palayan is the politcal and Baler and Dingalan will be the main ports. The proposed name will be The United Province of Aurora and Nueva Ecija.

Seems like a good proposal to me. With due respect I never considered Aurora to be economically viable as an independent province. But What about a new name like United Province of East Central Luzon or Pinagkaisang Lalawigan ng Gitnang Silangang Luzon.

[barrera_marquez]

Seems like a good proposal to me. With due respect I never considered Aurora to be economically http://www.skyscrapercity.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=21147434viable as an independent province. But What about a new name like United Province of East Central Luzon or Pinagkaisang Lalawigan ng Gitnang Silangang Luzon.

OK sana merger kaya lang ayokong palitan ang pangalan ng Nueva Ecija. At saka matatagalan ang adaption ng new name na iyan. Or should I say Nueva Nombre? (New Name)

Nueva Ecija has five cities while Aurora and Nueva Vizcaya doesn't have any... it is really a matter of economy here guys...

Cabanatuan City and Palayan City are the two major cities of Nueva Ecija (even though the latter isn't looking like a city) and both have the authority to be the capital of this province...

Well, expect heavy backfire from the Aurora province especially from Governor Bella Flor Castillo. The question is- can Governor Aurelio Umali do it?

[CabanNgTuwa]

anything is possible, remember Pangasinan as a former part of Central Luzon? Zamboanga Sibugay as a new province; Quirino seceded from huge Nueva Vizcaya, CAR wasn't even a region back in Marcos days only Regions 1 (Ilocos) and 2(Cagayan Valley) were

pero i have heard from forums that they (Aurora peeps) will never give up their namesakes; imagine lofty "kaingineros" benefiting from their usual crap logging activities being exposed; by the way, what happened to the Pacific Coast City? such an ambitious project

[barrera_marquez]

Basta, if the merger will change Nueva Ecija's name, then, don't merge anymore...

Nueva Ecija...

The Rice Granary of the Philippines/The Rice Bowl of the Philippines

Love it or do not eat anymore!!!

The rice's last frontier...

And of course, the most romantic province I've ever had!!! :)

[Asturiano]

Basta, if the merger will change Nueva Ecija's name, then, don't merge anymore...

Nueva Ecija...

The Rice Granary of the Philippines/The Rice Bowl of the Philippines

Love it or do not eat anymore!!!

The rice's last frontier...

And of course, the most romantic province I've ever had!!! :)

How do you like if we change it to Ecilandia or Nueva Andalucia just to be fair with both provinces they will still retain thier old name only if referring to one province, in other case, if you refer to the new merge province it will be called either of the one of the two name above, in which case whoever the peoples chose to be the most popular.

[barrera_marquez]

How do you like if we change it to Ecilandia or Nueva Andalucia just to be fair with both provinces they will still retain thier old name only if referring to one province, in other case, if you refer to the new merge province it will be called either of the one of the two name above, in which case whoever the peoples chose to be the most popular.

Deal ako diyan Kuya Asturiano! :okay:

Mas nais ko kasing tawagin ang mga lugar na ito nang:

Cabanatuan City, Nueva Ecija
Gapan City, Nueva Ecija
Science City of Munoz, Nueva Ecija
Palayan City, Nueva Ecija
San Jose City, Nueva Ecija


Basta if we could still name the places from Nueva Ecija still Nueva Ecija... then let it be... remember the last name I have given, and that reason is the reason why I won't let Nueva Ecija name go... sentimental kasi...

Tanong ko lang mga kuya, how come nagkaroon agad ang Nueva Ecija ng 5 cities in just 52 years?! While Nueva Vizcaya and Aurora doesn't have any? Napakabilis namang development iyon para sa isang lalawigan... Pampanga nga nagkaroon lamang ng 2 lungsod in that same time frame...

Dati taga-Palayan City ako, noong January, lumipat na kami sa Cabanatuan City... much better...

[freightrunner]

@barrera marquez
Kasi depende rin yan sa mga tao kung gusto nila. A good example is Tuguegarao which first applied for cityhood in the 60's but was rejected by the people and then another attempt in the 70's but same thing happenned until it finally became a city in 2000. But before it got its cityhood approved, maybe 10 or 15 years back, a lot of people especially the media always refferred to it as a city already. The 5 cities of NE applied for cityhood and got approved right away and that could be one reason. Solano, NV may be on the verge of cityhood already. I'm not sure about Baler.

[barrera_marquez]

@barrera marquez
Kasi depende rin yan sa mga tao kung gusto nila. A good example is Tuguegarao which first applied for cityhood in the 60's but was rejected by the people and then another attempt in the 70's but same thing happenned until it finally became a city in 2000. But before it got its cityhood approved, maybe 10 or 15 years back, a lot of people especially the media always refferred to it as a city already. The 5 cities of NE applied for cityhood and got approved right away and that could be one reason. Solano, NV may be on the verge of cityhood already. I'm not sure about Baler.

Wow very informative po kuya, salamat! :okay:

Buti na lang hindi tayo katulad sa Rehiyon Dos na nagda-dalawang isip pa bago maging lungsod ang mga lugar nila... gaya ng Ilagan, Isabela... sa ganitong sitwasyon, patas lang sa Bulacan ang buong Rehiyon 2 kung paramihan ng lungsod ang pag-uusapan...

Hindi po ba nagtangka ang Cabanatuan na maging isang highly-urbanized city? Bakit po ba natalo ang Cabanatuan City doon? (ayokong maging independent ang Cabanatuan City sa Nueva Ecija)

[barrera_marquez]

Dumaan ulit ang satellite ng Google Earth sa Nueva Ecija, kumpleto na ang satellite surface data ng Palayan City... Cabanatuan City? Barangay Cabu pa lang ang meron... kailan kaya makukumpleto ang sa Cabanatuan City? Lalo na yung sa downtown... Hold on, malapit na...

But we expect na magkakaroon na ng kahit konting improvements ang satellite data sa Cabanatuan City kasi yung bahagi ng Nueva Ecija (malapit sa Cabanatuan City) ang kinukunan ng satellite ngayon...

[freightrunner]

Wow very informative po kuya, salamat! :okay:

Buti na lang hindi tayo katulad sa Rehiyon Dos na nagda-dalawang isip pa bago maging lungsod ang mga lugar nila... gaya ng Ilagan, Isabela... sa ganitong sitwasyon, patas lang sa Bulacan ang buong Rehiyon 2 kung paramihan ng lungsod ang pag-uusapan...

Hindi po ba nagtangka ang Cabanatuan na maging isang highly-urbanized city? Bakit po ba natalo ang Cabanatuan City doon? (ayokong maging independent ang Cabanatuan City sa Nueva Ecija)
I agree. Dapat hindi kailanman maging independent ang mga cities sa province kahit pa sabihin na sila ang nagbibigay buhay sa ekonomia ng lugar. Lalo na sa mga dating kabisera dahil utang din nila sa probinsiya ang kanilang pag-unlad sa pagiging capital nila.

[barrera_marquez]

I agree. Dapat hindi kailanman maging independent ang mga cities sa province kahit pa sabihin na sila ang nagbibigay buhay sa ekonomia ng lugar. Lalo na sa mga dating kabisera dahil utang din nila sa probinsiya ang kanilang pag-unlad sa pagiging capital nila.

Mas lalong hindi sila dapat umalis sa probinsya kung sila ang nagbibigay buhay sa ekonomiya nito... kumbaga Palayan City ang utak ang Cabanatuan City ang puso...

[allan_dude]

^ Dun samin independent city ang Dagupan. Economic hub yun ng central Pangasinan. Pang sinabing Dagupan City, Pangasinan agad ang naiisip. Dapat ibalik na rin nila sa probinsya..

anything is possible, remember Pangasinan as a former part of Central Luzon?

Correct. Tapos ngayon tinatawag na Ilocos ang Pangasinan eh hindi naman talaga sya original part ng Ilocos. Pangasinan is Pangasinan. Kung tutuusin masmalaki pa ang Pangasinan kesa Ilocos Norte, Sur and La Union combined. Dinamay lang ni Marcos sa region 1 para lumaki ang population at matawag na isang region para sa mga Ilocano.

Guys aware ba kayo sa "North Central Luzon" (Nueva Ecija, Tarlac & Pangasinan)? Ginagamit yan lagi ng mga media companies like GMA and ABSCBN.

[Asturiano]

^ Dun samin independent city ang Dagupan. Economic hub yun ng central Pangasinan. Pang sinabing Dagupan City, Pangasinan agad ang naiisip. Dapat ibalik na rin nila sa probinsya..



Correct. Tapos ngayon tinatawag na Ilocos ang Pangasinan eh hindi naman talaga sya original part ng Ilocos. Pangasinan is Pangasinan. Kung tutuusin masmalaki pa ang Pangasinan kesa Ilocos Norte, Sur and La Union combined. Dinamay lang ni Marcos sa region 1 para lumaki ang population at matawag na isang region para sa mga Ilocano.
Guys aware ba kayo sa "North Central Luzon" (Nueva Ecija, Tarlac & Pangasinan)? Ginagamit yan lagi ng mga media companies like GMA and ABSCBN.

Geographically, Pangasinan is part of Central Luzon but because the Ilocanos who settled the interior of the province outnumbered the natives Pangalatok it became part of the Ilocos Region.

[barrera_marquez]

^ Dun samin independent city ang Dagupan. Economic hub yun ng central Pangasinan. Pang sinabing Dagupan City, Pangasinan agad ang naiisip. Dapat ibalik na rin nila sa probinsya..



Correct. Tapos ngayon tinatawag na Ilocos ang Pangasinan eh hindi naman talaga sya original part ng Ilocos. Pangasinan is Pangasinan. Kung tutuusin masmalaki pa ang Pangasinan kesa Ilocos Norte, Sur and La Union combined. Dinamay lang ni Marcos sa region 1 para lumaki ang population at matawag na isang region para sa mga Ilocano.

Guys aware ba kayo sa "North Central Luzon" (Nueva Ecija, Tarlac & Pangasinan)? Ginagamit yan lagi ng mga media companies like GMA and ABSCBN.

Ang tanong lang Kuya Allan, papayag po ba ang mga tao? Kayu-kayo rin po ang magpapabalik sa Dagupan sa Pangasinan...

[allan_dude]

Ang tanong lang Kuya Allan, papayag po ba ang mga tao? Kayu-kayo rin po ang magpapabalik sa Dagupan sa Pangasinan...

Cool ka lang. Kinumpara ko lang na masmaganda sana ang dagupan kapag katulad ito ng Cabanatuan na kasama parin sa NE. Papayag ang mga tao, wala nga lang initiative galing sa mga pulitiko.

Geographically, Pangasinan is part of Central Luzon but because the Ilocanos who settled the interior of the province outnumbered the natives Pangalatok it became part of the Ilocos Region.

Ayan ginagamit mo parin ang term na "Pangalatok".. Mali yan. :nono::lol:

Masmarami parin pangasinan speakers kesa sa ilocano. ilocano concentrated sa eastern pangasinan. (mga ilocano sa eastern mostly may kamaganak na ilocano rin sa Tarlac or Nueva Ecija:lol:) pure pangasinan sa centro, halo namang pangasinan and bolinao/zambal sa west, may onting ilocano rin.

[freightrunner]

Ilocano ako from Cagayan pero kung ako tatanungin hindi dapat isinama sa Ilocos Region ang Pangasinan. Kasi kung talagang gusto nilang pagsamasamahin ang mga Ilocano dapat isama na rin ang north Tarlac sa Ilocos at ang north Nueva Ecija isama na rin sa Valley. But I don't approve of this gerrymanderng of the regions. They should just restore the 12 original regions with Pangasinan going back to CL and Aurora to SL if that's what the people want. We in CVL if ever we change into a Federal System don't even want to be merged with Region 1 and want to be a federated state ourselves with Tuguegarao as capital. We don't want to be identified with the politics of Ilocos Region if you know what I mean.:cheers:

[barrera_marquez]

Ilocano ako from Cagayan pero kung ako tatanungin hindi dapat isinama sa Ilocos Region ang Pangasinan. Kasi kung talagang gusto nilang pagsamasamahin ang mga Ilocano dapat isama na rin ang north Tarlac sa Ilocos at ang north Nueva Ecija isama na rin sa Valley. But I don't approve of this gerrymanderng of the regions. They should just restore the 12 original regions with Pangasinan going back to CL and Aurora to SL if that's what the people want. We in CVL if ever we change into a Federal System don't even want to be merged with Region 1 and want to be a federated state ourselves with Tuguegarao as capital. We don't want to be identified with the politics of Ilocos Region if you know what I mean.:cheers:

Kuya freight, mas gusto ko pong nasa Central Luzon ang Nueva Ecija... at ayoko pong magkaroon ng split ang Nueva Ecija...

Pero kung ako ang tatanungin, gusto kong ilipat sa Dagupan ang capital ng Pangasinan... if the provincial government will allow it and if Dagupan City returned to the Pangasinan circulation...

[barrera_marquez]

From Wikipedia:

"As of 2006, SM Prime Holdings, Inc. is embarking on an aggressive expansion program within the next five years. In preparation for this expansion, SM Prime Holdings, Inc. has amassed a total landbank of 96.6 hectares in 10 strategic locations. Included are attractive properties in provinces where urbanization is steadily underway, such as Cabanatuan, Pangasinan and Bulacan."

From Yahoo! Answers:

"It will rise soon in Maharlika Highway, Cabanatuan City, Nueva Ecija.

However, there's still no opening date yet."

Wikipedia Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SM_Prime_Holdings
Yahoo! Answers: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=A9FJuiwdG0FIMoUAJDsjzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20080519150940AA9gyCa

Wala pa rin akong nakikitang SM Mall na itinatayo sa Cabanatuan City a...

[Asturiano]

Ilocano ako from Cagayan pero kung ako tatanungin hindi dapat isinama sa Ilocos Region ang Pangasinan. Kasi kung talagang gusto nilang pagsamasamahin ang mga Ilocano dapat isama na rin ang north Tarlac sa Ilocos at ang north Nueva Ecija isama na rin sa Valley. But I don't approve of this gerrymanderng of the regions. They should just restore the 12 original regions with Pangasinan going back to CL and Aurora to SL if that's what the people want. We in CVL if ever we change into a Federal System don't even want to be merged with Region 1 and want to be a federated state ourselves with Tuguegarao as capital. We don't want to be identified with the politics of Ilocos Region if you know what I mean.:cheers:

Agree. I am also an Ilocano from San Jose City. I don't agree with the new proposed states for federalism making the entire Northern Luzon as one states. I think that the politician forgot that there is mountain barrier between the Region one and the Region two. If the Philippines ever shift into Federal type of government I would still prefer the 12 regions that we have now and making NCR as a Federal District.

[barrera_marquez]

Agree. I am also an Ilocano from San Jose City. I don't agree with the new proposed states for federalism making the entire Northern Luzon as one states. I think that the politician forgot that there is mountain barrier between the Region one and the Region two. If the Philippines ever shift into Federal type of government I would still prefer the 12 regions that we have now and making NCR as a Federal District.

Also, don't forget the mountain barrier between Nueva Ecija and Nueva Vizcaya...

[Nabartek]

^ Dun samin independent city ang Dagupan. Economic hub yun ng central Pangasinan. Pang sinabing Dagupan City, Pangasinan agad ang naiisip. Dapat ibalik na rin nila sa probinsya..



Correct. Tapos ngayon tinatawag na Ilocos ang Pangasinan eh hindi naman talaga sya original part ng Ilocos. Pangasinan is Pangasinan. Kung tutuusin masmalaki pa ang Pangasinan kesa Ilocos Norte, Sur and La Union combined. Dinamay lang ni Marcos sa region 1 para lumaki ang population at matawag na isang region para sa mga Ilocano.

Guys aware ba kayo sa "North Central Luzon" (Nueva Ecija, Tarlac & Pangasinan)? Ginagamit yan lagi ng mga media companies like GMA and ABSCBN.

I am aware of that. What's funny is that meron na ngang Northern Luzon, may North Central Luzon pa. Parang, huh??? Proves the lack of research and study of the Manila-based media. And they seem to have the agenda of homogenizinf North and Central Luzon.

[Nabartek]

Agree. I am also an Ilocano from San Jose City. I don't agree with the new proposed states for federalism making the entire Northern Luzon as one states. I think that the politician forgot that there is mountain barrier between the Region one and the Region two. If the Philippines ever shift into Federal type of government I would still prefer the 12 regions that we have now and making NCR as a Federal District.

In addition to that, the CAR is a huge barrier between Region 1 and region 2. Ineraction will be difficult between the two regions if they become one state, in the end baka magkanya-kanya nalang din kahit parehas na Ilocano-dominated. Pimentel must have assumed that N.Luzon is really homogeneous. Yung regions na lang kasi, yun yung gawin states and Pangasinan, if I may suggest be part nalang of Central Luzon. Masbagay siya dun kasi the populace is diverse like other Central Luzon provinces like Tarlac

[Nabartek]

Geographically, Pangasinan is part of Central Luzon but because the Ilocanos who settled the interior of the province outnumbered the natives Pangalatok it became part of the Ilocos Region.

They have not really outnumbered the Pangasinenses in the province. Pangasinenses are slightly over 50%, Ilocanos are like some 40%, the erst, probably mostly belong to the Bolinao minority.

It's just fair na Ibalik sa Central Luzon. Sa diversity ng Pangasinan, masbagay siya dun, masyado kasing homogeneous ang other 3 provinces na more than 95% Ilocano ang population. Ang central Luzon naman, mixture of Pangasinenses, Ilocano, Tagalogs, Aetas, Kapampangan...

if it's all about the Ilocano population, dapat isinali ang NE sa Ilocos region

[Nabartek]

Kuya freight, mas gusto ko pong nasa Central Luzon ang Nueva Ecija... at ayoko pong magkaroon ng split ang Nueva Ecija...

Pero kung ako ang tatanungin, gusto kong ilipat sa Dagupan ang capital ng Pangasinan... if the provincial government will allow it and if Dagupan City returned to the Pangasinan circulation...

Parang Baguio-Benguet ang situation. Baguio is right in the heart of Benguet but considered not part of Benguet. Kaya LT ang capital.

Sa totoo lang nagtataka ako bakit parang hindi naging capital ang Pangasinan considering it's the most progressive and busiest city in the Pangasinan province. Kailan ko lang nalaman na independent pala. Jejej

[barrera_marquez]

They have not really outnumbered the Pangasinenses in the province. Pangasinenses are slightly over 50%, Ilocanos are like some 40%, the erst, probably mostly belong to the Bolinao minority.

It's just fair na Ibalik sa Central Luzon. Sa diversity ng Pangasinan, masbagay siya dun, masyado kasing homogeneous ang other 3 provinces na more than 95% Ilocano ang population. Ang central Luzon naman, mixture of Pangasinenses, Ilocano, Tagalogs, Aetas, Kapampangan...

if it's all about the Ilocano population, dapat isinali ang NE sa Ilocos region

Malayo sa Ilocos region ang Nueva Ecija at saka nasa gitna ng Luzon ang Nueva Ecija, it will be impossible even if the Ilocano population there is large. Sa totoo lang po, mas maraming Tagalog doon sa NE kaysa sa mga Ilocano or Kapampangans...

[Nabartek]

Malayo sa Ilocos region ang Nueva Ecija at saka nasa gitna ng Luzon ang Nueva Ecija, it will be impossible even if the Ilocano population there is large. Sa totoo lang po, mas maraming Tagalog doon sa NE kaysa sa mga Ilocano or Kapampangans...

I think you're talking about the two Ilocos, malayo nga but the region itself is not. Accessible ang Pangasinan sa NE. Kung yun mga taga-NE nakakarating sa bundok ng Car, sa Ilocos region pala.

Yes, mas maraming tagalog dun sa NE but if you will see, masbagay ang Pangasinan sa Central Luzon given the diversity of the Pangasinan populace. Very homogeneous talaga ang La Union, Ilocos Norte at Ilocos Sur. At least sa Central Luzon, masmababa yung homogeniety. Kaya masmababa ang threat na magdisappear ang mga native Pangasinenses dun unlike sa Ilocos region na tila naliligaw ang Pangasinan kasi di siya homogeneous.

[CabanNgTuwa]

I think you're talking about the two Ilocos, malayo nga but the region itself is not. Accessible ang Pangasinan sa NE. Kung yun mga taga-NE nakakarating sa bundok ng Car, sa Ilocos region pala.

Yes, mas maraming tagalog dun sa NE but if you will see, masbagay ang Pangasinan sa Central Luzon given the diversity of the Pangasinan populace. Very homogeneous talaga ang La Union, Ilocos Norte at Ilocos Sur. At least sa Central Luzon, masmababa yung homogeniety. Kaya masmababa ang threat na magdisappear ang mga native Pangasinenses dun unlike sa Ilocos region na tila naliligaw ang Pangasinan kasi di siya homogeneous.

dati namang sakop ng Region 3 ang Pangasinan eh, and I'm anticipating the gov't will bring back Pangasinan to the Central Luzon region once again in the near future; yung terrain ng Central Plains kasi and accessibility from Mla to Pangasinan halos parehas sa Nueva Ecija, Tarlac, Pampanga, Bulacan because they are all in the middle of 2 massive mountain ranges (Zambales Range and Sierra Madre)

BTW, may pics pala ako ng Cab na bago, sensya na medyo malabo kaskasero kasi yung driver namin hehe:
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/5214/cabanatuanmall2jc3.jpg

[barrera_marquez]

dati namang sakop ng Region 3 ang Pangasinan eh, and I'm anticipating the gov't will bring back Pangasinan to the Central Luzon region once again in the near future; yung terrain ng Central Plains kasi and accessibility from Mla to Pangasinan halos parehas sa Nueva Ecija, Tarlac, Pampanga, Bulacan because they are all in the middle of 2 massive mountain ranges (Zambales Range and Sierra Madre)

BTW, may pics pala ako ng Cab na bago, sensya na medyo malabo kaskasero kasi yung driver namin hehe:
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/5214/cabanatuanmall2jc3.jpg

Last, last week yung nasa harap ng NE Mall e nakasulat "Enjoy this summer" pa rin... buti pinalitan na nila ng "Gettin' Ready for School"

Kuya Cabs, paano nga po pala nakapag-overspeed ang driver ninyo e samantalang notorious po ang Maharlika Highway bilang pagiging sobrang ma-trapik? Maluwag na po ba ngayon diyan?

[freightrunner]

Last, last week yung nasa harap ng NE Mall e nakasulat "Enjoy this summer" pa rin... buti pinalitan na nila ng "Gettin' Ready for School"

Kuya Cabs, paano nga po pala nakapag-overspeed ang driver ninyo e samantalang notorious po ang Maharlika Highway bilang pagiging sobrang ma-trapik? Maluwag na po ba ngayon diyan?

Napansin ko lang bakit kahit saan sa Pinas e ganyan kagulo at karami ang utility wires, Wala ba silang planong ayusin man lang iyan kung hindi pa kaya ng budget nila ang underground. Hanggang ganyan ang ating mga cities e parang hindi tayo makakawala sa ating pagiging third world country. At diyan sa Cabanatuan dapat may taxi na rin sana at umpisahan nang magphase out ng tricycle sa kabayanan.

[barrera_marquez]

Napansin ko lang bakit kahit saan sa Pinas e ganyan kagulo at karami ang utility wires, Wala ba silang planong ayusin man lang iyan kung hindi pa kaya ng budget nila ang underground. Hanggang ganyan ang ating mga cities e parang hindi tayo makakawala sa ating pagiging third world country. At diyan sa Cabanatuan dapat may taxi na rin sana at umpisahan nang magphase out ng tricycle sa kabayanan.

They won't, tricycle capital ng Pilipinas ang Cabanatuan City kuya e... siguro kalabaw na kalesa na lang... pwede na...

[Asturiano]

Napansin ko lang bakit kahit saan sa Pinas e ganyan kagulo at karami ang utility wires, Wala ba silang planong ayusin man lang iyan kung hindi pa kaya ng budget nila ang underground. Hanggang ganyan ang ating mga cities e parang hindi tayo makakawala sa ating pagiging third world country. At diyan sa Cabanatuan dapat may taxi na rin sana at umpisahan nang magphase out ng tricycle sa kabayanan.

That is because most of the cities in the Philippines lack urban planning just look at Manila from Google earth, it was so called the capital- oriented of the country and yet it was also the most disorganized and most polluted. The only place in the Philippines that can meet the first world standard is the Makati business district and the upper class neighborhood around it.

Those utility wires will be a lot safer if they are buried underground but it will take a lot of effort and money to do just that and also they have to widen the drainage and canals system to prevent flooding in order to do that.

It will be a lot nicer if all the big cities in the Philippines have their mass public transit. An organized bus route with bus stop or station. The tricycles and Jeepney are the two main contributor of pollution in the urban area. The Jeepney were just band aid solution for the lack of transportation after WW2. I just can't believe that they have outlive their main purpose.

[barrera_marquez]

That is because most of the cities in the Philippines lack urban planning just look at Manila from Google earth, it was so called the capital- oriented of the country and yet it was also the most disorganized and most polluted. The only place in the Philippines that can meet the first world standard is the Makati business district and the upper class neighborhood around it.

Those utility wires will be a lot safer if they are buried underground but it will take a lot of effort and money to do just that and also they have to widen the drainage and canals system to prevent flooding in order to do that.

It will be a lot nicer if all the big cities in the Philippines have their mass public transit. An organized bus route with bus stop or station. The tricycles and Jeepney are the two main contributor of pollution in the urban area. The Jeepney were just band aid solution for the lack of transportation after WW2. I just can't believe that they have outlive their main purpose.

Napansin ko nga, mas maganda pa yung urban planning sa Cebu, Davao at kung saan-saan pang major cities in the Philippines unlike Manila... I don't know in Cabanatuan City since Google Earth doesn't have a high-resolution of this city yet. But believe me, since Palayan City is still developing, it would be nice if they plan it in the long-run... As of now, the layout of streets and buildings in Palayan City is good, sana nga magpatuloy...

[allan_dude]

DBP lends P90-M for school buildings in Cabanatuan

Manila -- State-owned Development Bank of the Philippines (DBP) recently approved a P90-million term loan to the local government of Cabanatuan City to finance the construction of an additional 47 public school buildings, or 125 classrooms that will benefit an estimated 29,000 students.

DBP president and chief executive officer Reynaldo G. David said the loan assistance is in support of the national government's thrust to provide adequate infrastructure to the education sector.

The project will specifically address classroom shortage in the City through the construction of new buildings to replace those damaged by previous earthquakes. The project will also provide decent classrooms to public school students who have had to use barangay halls and school grandstands as makeshift classrooms.

The loan will be secured by a portion of the LGU's Special Education Fund which is being maintained from proceeds of the additional one percent tax on real property. Cabanatuan City is ranked first in the collection of real property taxes among LGU-cities in Region III based on the 2007 Report of the Department of Finance-Bureau of Local Government Finance.

http://www.pia.gov.ph/default.asp?m=12&fi=p080530.htm&no=28

[Nabartek]

Napansin ko lang bakit kahit saan sa Pinas e ganyan kagulo at karami ang utility wires, Wala ba silang planong ayusin man lang iyan kung hindi pa kaya ng budget nila ang underground. Hanggang ganyan ang ating mga cities e parang hindi tayo makakawala sa ating pagiging third world country. At diyan sa Cabanatuan dapat may taxi na rin sana at umpisahan nang magphase out ng tricycle sa kabayanan.

I agree that trikes should be faced out. In many areas in Luzon, even in cities(San Fernanado, Dagupan), main daanan rin ng trikes ang high ways and it's pretty scary talaga. Many trike drivers have the guts to go the the other lane just to overtake. Eh ang high ways, daan din ng trucks, buses and other big vehicles.