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It was about the time to have its own thread :cheers:

Transilvania Highway Project, Romania (A3) www.autostradatransilvania.ro
It is currently the largest highway project in Europe - completion 2013

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A four-lane, 415 km highway, stretching northwest from Brasov in central Romania to Oradea on the country's border with Hungary.
The motorway will stretch southeast to northwest over the whole of Transylvania, passing by the following cities: Brasov, Fagaras, Sighisoara, Targu Mures, Cluj-Napoca, Zalau and Oradea. The alignment will start near Brasov, a city located at an altitude of almost 600 meters, will cross the Transylvanian plateau at an altitude of 300-400 m, then it will skirt to the north of Apuseni Carpathians, finally crossing the Crisanei plain at an altitude of approximately 130 m. The motorway will be sponsored and owned by the Government of Romania.

Total Length: 415 km
Motorway Width: 26 m
Carriageways: 2 x 7.5 m

VOLUME OF WORKS:
Number of Motorway Structures/Total Length: 267 / 55.5 km
(Bridges/Viaducts carrying the motorway)
Overpasses: 94
Underpasses: 58
Interchanghes: 16


Latest Pictures (Jan 2007)
Structure backfill at km 26+200 AND Foundations at km 26+230
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T-Beams installation at km 34+167 AND Piling at km 24+417
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Foundations at km 25+383 AND Elevation at km 37+715
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Elevation at km 38+085 AND Elevation at km 32+813
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Precast ditches at km 25 AND Structures at km 21+911 – platforms
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Pierhead at km 32+813 AND Hydro-seeding upper slope at km 16+720
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Works at km 31+594
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Load test at km 31+594 AND "T" beam concreting
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Abutment elevation at km 34+956 AND Rebar work at km 31+287
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Update ... March 2007
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June 2007 update
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Romania to have longest viaduct in Eastern Europe :cheers:
28.06.2007 - Gardianul

The largest viaduct in Eastern Europe, 1.8 km in length, is to be erected in the neighborhood of Suplacu de Barcau settlement, on the Autostrada Transilvania alignment. The viaduct will be built by the Bechtel Company, following an investment of approximately 60 million EUR (Mediafax). “This viaduct was not included in the Feasibility Study and thus it will increase cost by approximately 60 million EUR, representing the value of the works“, declared Mihai Grecu, general manager of the National Company of Motorways and National Roads. The official also mentioned that the Suplacu de Barcau-Bors section of Autostrada Transilvania is to be finished in 2009, together with the viaduct. According to the official, Bechtel works on this section are progressing at the pace established with the authorities.



and more old news ...

Tariceanu satisfied with Bechtel: "You go ahead and start, we'll bring in the money"
18.05.2007 - hotnews
Prime Minister Calin Popescu Tariceanu declared himself satisfied with Bechtel's pace of works on the motorway section between Turda and Cluj
details

Multicultural 1st of May picnic at Bechtel
02.05.2007 - Can Can
Everyone together. Turks, Indians, Canadians, Americans and Romanians together spend Labor Day with traditional food and games
details

Asphalt works on Transilvania motorway will start this summer
27.04.2007 - Gandul
Bechtel representatives presented yesterday to journalists of Cluj details related to the status of works on Autostrada Transilvania and promised that this summer asphalt casting works will start as well
details

Bechtel promises motorway next year
27.04.2007 - Ziarul Clujeanului
The sub-section Câmpia Turzii - Gilău of the Transilvania motorway might become functional starting with 2008

December 2007
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Transilvania Motorway Interactive Map - http://autopalya.adatbank.transindex.ro/

And some fresh ashfalt :cheers:
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I hope this will be the first REAL Romanian motorway. Current segment of A1 is a joke, and A2 is not that great either.

A2 is shortly turning into a disaster. There are some nasty potholes already between Fundulea and Drajna. Some are consecutive, for tens of metres, one after another.

^^

http://www.nineoclock.ro/index.php?page=detalii&categorie=business&id=20080110-511612

:bash:

Yes, disaster isn't a tough work given that the works are recent. You've got to see them to believe them.

Any plans to extend it to the Bulgarian border and the bridge?

Yes, disaster isn't a tough work given that the works are recent. You've got to see them to believe them.

I think it is normal for some potholes to come up after 4 years of usage (it's asphalt in the end). I am sure they'll fix it in the spring.

You definitely didn't see them.

You definitely didn't see them.

Yes, I did. I travel quite frequently on that route. They are annoying, indeed, but I think it's a bit exagerrate not to expect potholes 4 years after the section was put into use, considering the amount of sand and salt the highway administration had to pour to fight the snow and ice.

They cannot fix it now, because it's not feasible, but I hope they will fix it in spring.

Any plans to extend it to the Bulgarian border and the bridge?

No plans as yet to extend the highway to the Bulgarian border AFAIK. As of now, the highway priority for the Government is to link the country with Hungary, Bucharest with Transilvania, and Moldova with Bucharest and Transilvania. So, the gov is concentrating more on the N side of Romania and Bucharest. However, I noticed there are tender procedures for transforming the Craiova-Calafat road into an express route, and further connect Craiova to the Pitesti-Bucuresti highway through an express route. There's also an express route between Bucharest and Giurgiu. :cheers:

Timisoara - Drobeta - Calafat Motorway could be considered as a middle-term priority (as being on the southern branch of the TEN-T Pritority Axis VII) and should probably be financed in the next programming period for Structural and Cohesion Fund (2013 - 2020). Meanwhile, NR 56A (Drobeta - Calafat) is under rehabilitation and the detailed design elaboration for future road and railway links to the Calafat - Vidin Bridge is on-going.

Timisoara - Drobeta - Calafat Motorway could be considered as a middle-term priority (as being on the southern branch of the TEN-T Pritority Axis VII) and should probably be financed in the next programming period for Structural and Cohesion Fund (2013 - 2020). Meanwhile, NR 56A (Drobeta - Calafat) is under rehabilitation and the detailed design elaboration for future road and railway links to the Calafat - Vidin Bridge is on-going.

What about Craiova-Calafat express route? I looked it up on the CNADR and it said it was under tender procedures. :cheers:

^^

NR 56 (Craiova - Calafat) is included in the 5th national road rehabilitation stage together with Calafat - Drobeta section (among others) but as far as I know the road should not be widened but only upgraded for a 11,5 tons/axle bearing capacity. This section has been splited in two lots and the contracts should be awarded in the coming period.

I shall check tommorow if are there any new plans for upgrading this national road to expresseway standards or, at least, for a 4 lanes widening.

^^

NR 56 (Craiova - Calafat) is included in the 5th national road rehabilitation stage together with Calafat - Drobeta section (among others) but as far as I know the road should not be widened but only upgraded for a 11,5 tons/axle bearing capacity. This section has been splited in two lots and the contracts should be awarded in the coming period.

I shall check tommorow if are there any new plans for upgrading this national road to expresseway standards or, at least, for a 4 lanes widening.

:cheers:

Works for Comarnic - Brasov segment, the southerly extension of Transilvania motorway towards Bucharest, to start in 2009. The tender procedures has been started.

for details(romanian only):
http://www.transilvaniaexpres.ro/index.php?mod=articol&id_articol=73516

Romania to have longest viaduct in Eastern Europe :cheers:
28.06.2007 - Gardianul

The largest viaduct in Eastern Europe, 1.8 km in length, is to be erected in the neighborhood of Suplacu de Barcau settlement, on the Autostrada Transilvania alignment. The viaduct will be built by the Bechtel Company, following an investment of approximately 60 million EUR (Mediafax). “This viaduct was not included in the Feasibility Study and thus it will increase cost by approximately 60 million EUR, representing the value of the works“, declared Mihai Grecu, general manager of the National Company of Motorways and National Roads. The official also mentioned that the Suplacu de Barcau-Bors section of Autostrada Transilvania is to be finished in 2009, together with the viaduct. According to the official, Bechtel works on this section are progressing at the pace established with the authorities.


Exactly how long?

We have a pretty long too...

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^^ it is written in nebunu's post you just quoted : 1.8 km long
How long is yours anyway ?

^^ it is written in nebunu's post you just quoted : 1.8 km long
How long is yours anyway ?

1872m between the 2 dilatation parts.

1872m between the 2 dilatation parts.

OMG. Now I see Qtya's point.
So it seems we will have a very tight competition here :naughty:

OMG. Now I see Qtya's point.
So it seems we will have a very tight competition here :naughty:

Indeed. It was said(when it was built) that this is the longest in EE and the region,but then
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-a croatian viaduct is 2485m long.

You win ... ours is on the paper:nuts:. Yours is in ... ZA picture :cheers:

Interesting how everyone wants to be in the Eastern Europe all of a sudden. We like to say in Ljubljana we used to have the highest skyscraper in the Balkans. Sounds cool... and would be true if Ljubljana were in the Balkans... but it isn't.

Big project btw! :cheers:

Who am I to argue with the "west"...Wien is west,Prague is east...

Interesting how everyone wants to be in the Eastern Europe all of a sudden. We like to say in Ljubljana we used to have the highest skyscraper in the Balkans. Sounds cool... and would be true if Ljubljana was in the Balkans... but it isn't.

Big project btw! :cheers:



^^ Good point ... it seems CE is EE today :lol: :cheers:

the next thing we hear...
in Switzerland they build the longest...(something) in EE..:lol:
its EE charm , it is irresistible!:colgate:

I mean, it's so much more obvious considering we don't like to be considered Balkan... cause some people still consider us Balkan, regardless of geography, and when that particular skyscraper was built (in 1933), we were in Yugoslavia, a country that was almost entirely Balkan. So saying Ljubljana is in the Balkans, we get our hair risen, but saying we used to have the highest skyscraper in the Balkans, is perfectly fine, actually encouraged. :lol: I'm seriously surprised the Wikipedia article says it was the highest in Yugoslavia, I really expected the word "Balkans", we always say that. Ok, enough OT.

OMG. Now I see Qtya's point.
So it seems we will have a very tight competition here :naughty:

^^:okay:

Interesting how everyone wants to be in the Eastern Europe all of a sudden. We like to say in Ljubljana we used to have the highest skyscraper in the Balkans. Sounds cool... and would be true if Ljubljana were in the Balkans... but it isn't.

Hmm... Who said anything about EE, CE, WE? :dunno:

RawLee and I were only comparing the two viaducts...

Big project btw! :cheers:

Agreed...

Nebunul's post says it will be the longest viaduct in EE, and you replied you have a longer one in Hungary, so Hungary = EE by you. :)

Nebunul's post says it will be the longest viaduct in EE, and you replied you have a longer one in Hungary, so Hungary = EE by you. :)

Does it really matter who has the longest? Nothing can beat the one at Millau,so it is pointless to compare ours. It will certainly be the longest in Romania(for now),and I doubt there is/will be a longer one on the left side of the Danube in the near future.

Nebunul's post says it will be the longest viaduct in EE, and you replied you have a longer one in Hungary, so Hungary = EE by you. :)

It was just an effort for a simple, plane old RO-HU rivalry... :lol: NO EE, NO CE, NO WE, just US! (Not the States of course... :lol:)

^^ it's all about dick measuring here, Verso :lol: nothing more :nuts:

^^ it's all about dick measuring here, Verso :lol: nothing more :nuts:

^^And always will be... :lol::nuts:

Is a section of this motorway already finished? Where will be the longest and tallest bridge and the longest tunnel of this motorway?

Is a section of this motorway already finished? Where will be the longest and tallest bridge and the longest tunnel of this motorway?

Answer:

The official also mentioned that the Suplacu de Barcau-Bors section of Autostrada Transilvania is to be finished in 2009, together with the viaduct. According to the official, Bechtel works on this section are progressing at the pace established with the authorities.


Asphalt works on Transilvania motorway will start this summer
27.04.2007 - Gandul
Bechtel representatives presented yesterday to journalists of Cluj details related to the status of works on Autostrada Transilvania and promised that this summer asphalt casting works will start as well
details

Bechtel promises motorway next year
27.04.2007 - Ziarul Clujeanului
The sub-section Câmpia Turzii - Gilău of the Transilvania motorway might become functional starting with 2008

:lol: :doh: :lol:

Section 2 Targu Mures (Ogra) - Cluj 90 km
Section 2A Ogra (Targu Mures) - Campia Turzii
Section 2B Campia Turzii - Cluj Vest (Gilau)


Campia Turzii - Gilau section TBC 2008 … first few meters of asphalt (top layer not completed) :)

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More money for Bechtel
Jurnalul National

The amount allotted this year by the Ministry of Transport for works at Autostrada Transilvania is EUR 520 million- about three times more than in 2007.

Autostrada Transilvania works are advacing at a fast pace. Representatives of American company Bechtel required an amount 2.5 times larger than the Ministry of Transport allotted last year- reaching EUR 480 million. Taking into consideration the pace of works in 2007, the Transport Ministry considered it necessary to grant the company a larger amount than requested, so the total amout allotted for 2008 went up to approximately EUR 520 million. In August and Septembera 2007, the pace of Autostrada Transilvania expenditures exceeded 1 million EU every day. “Bechtel initially demanded EUR 480 million, but we are going to allot a budget of about EUR 520 million for this year”, declared Dorin Debucean, deputy general manager of the National Romanian Company of Motorways and National. Last year Transport Ministry granted Bechtel EUR 185 million for the works performed.

Works
This year the authorities allotted larger funds for Autostrada Transilvania, as two motorway sections, namely Campia Turzii – Gilau (52 kilometers) and Suplacu de Barcau – Bors (64 kilometers), are to be finished in 2008. The motorway, due for commissioning in 2012, will be 415 kilometers in length, with more than 55 km of bridges and viaducts, 94 passageways, 58 overpasses, and 16 interchanges. Moreover, this very same year works are bound to start on two other motorway sections: Mihailesti – Suplacu de Barcau and Gilau – Mihaileati. “This March works will start on section 3B, between Mihailesti and Suplacu de Barcau (76 kilometers)- which is the third tronson undergoing works. The Consultant began field works in December, the feasibility study has been revised and the technical design is currently under revision, so that Bechtel may start works in March”, explained Dorin Debucean. The Mihailesti – Suplacu de Barcau will cost EUR 489 million and is to be commissioned on December 31st 2011, while works on section 3A, Gilau-Mihailesti, will cost EUR 149 milion and are to be finalized by December 31st 2011. “Search Corporation is to revise the feasibility study, so the works may be started in September 2008”, said Dorin Debucean.

Costs
Construction costs for Autostrada Transilvania may double from EUR 2.2 billion to over 4 billion, because construction materials and land are being acquired at other prices than previously estimated. Moreover, the original feasibility study did not include viaducts and other expensive construction elements. There are also several clauses in the contract with American company Bechtel that will affect final costs. “A doubling of the costs is possible. What is certain is that the design will be more expensive, because the feasibility study did not provide for several costs. For example, the 3km viaduct between Suplacu de Barcau and Bors:), which will cost EUR 60 million, was not provided in the study”, declared Mihai Grecu, General Manager of the Company of Motorways. The 415 km of motorway are scheduled for completion in 2012.


^^ ^^ They're pushing again for the initial deadline 2012. I suppose Nokia, Mercedes and other investors have put pressure on government :cheers:

^^ Good news. But the biggest is that we may have 116 km opened this year. Quite ambitious, but let's see.

Bechtel plan: Three new sections of road in 2008

Autor: Ziarul Financiar
Data: 14-02-2008

Bechtel, the US construction firm behind the Transylvanian highway, has announced that it plans to work on all three sections of the road between Cluj and Bors in 2008. Works on this first section, which stretches 164 kilometres, should be completed by the end of 2010, according to the contract signed with the Romanian authorities.

The three sections targeted this year are 3A (Gilau - Mihaesti), 3B (Mihaesti - Suplacu de Barcau), and 3C (Suplacu de Barcau - Bors). Bechtel, which has received 30% of the 442 million euros allocated for 2008 from the Government, has announced it will hire 500 to 1,500 workers this year, which will handle the construction works.

In addition, Bechtel has voiced interest to take part in the job fair, organised by the Ministry of Labour and held in Rome on February 23. According to sources close to the Transylvanian motorway project, wages offered to Romanian workers who come from abroad could exceed 500 euros, but this depends on the type of work and whether they are skilled or not. Last year, Bechtel hired almost 2,000 people throughout all the counties through which the road passes- Bihor, Cluj, Salaj, Mures and Alba. Representatives of the CNADNR (National Authority in charge of Highways and National Roads), and Transport Ministry officials asked Bechtel to complete works on the section between Kilometres 17 and 42 (Tureni - Valisoara), however, the American company is still facing problems such as land expropriation, delayed approvals from archaeologists, and the relocation of utilities.


Sursa: www.zf.ro/articol_160952

Transilvania Motorway deserves its own thread HERE (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=813) !

* se ofera careva sa deschida un nou thread acolo ? daca nu, poate o voi face eu cand am mai mult timp !

^^ Individual motorways aren't allowed there, especially when Romania is rather small anyway. Exceptions can only be for example the Trans-Canada Highway, which is extremely long and there's not much talk about other Canadian highways anyway.

Another notable exception was the Struma Motorway, if I rememeber well...

:lol::lol:

Another notable exception was the Struma Motorway, if I rememeber well...

:lol::lol:

Are you kidding man, that is the exception of the exceptions, ofcourse does the Struma motorway deserve it´s own thread.

Yeah, the motorway of motorways. German, French, Japanese or American motorways don't even compare to Struma.:nuts:

http://www.ziuadecj.ro/action/article?ID=9212

A new highway will be built between Transylvania Highway and the town of Dej, crossing through Nokia plant in Jucu. It will have 75 Km, and will cost ~8 milion euros for each Km. I will begin in Gilau, will be linked with Transylvania Highway at Luna Interchange, will saround Cluj-Napoca by South, will pass near Cluj International Airport, and will continue towards Jucu and finaly Dej. The construction will start in April.


Lucrările la “autostrada Nokia” încep în aprilie

Lucrările la autostrada urbană Gilău-Jucu (cu extindere spre Dej) vor începe la finele lunii aprilie, au declarat pentru ZIUA de Cluj surse din administraţie. În total, autostrada va măsura 75 de kilometri. Costurile au fost evaluate la peste opt milioane de euro pe kilometru. Lucrarea va începe de la nodul rutier din localitatea Jucu.
Compania Naţională de Autostrăzi şi Drumuri Naţionale din România (CNADNR) pregăteşte deja licitaţia pentru atribuirea lucrării de execuţie a autostrăzii urbane, au precizat surse din administraţie. Şi arhitectul judeţului, Radu Spânu, a confirmat că aprilie este termenul la care a fost programată începerea lucrărilor.

“Conform proiectului, lucrarea va debuta spre finele lui aprilie, începând de la nodul denivelat din localitatea Jucu”, a precizat arhitectul. Acesta a explicat că reprezentanţii companiei de proiectare Iptana trebuie să finalizeze studiul de fezabilitate până în martie, urmând ca mai apoi CNADNR să poată organiza licitaţia pentru execuţia lucrării.

Trebuie reamintit că autostrada urbană Gilău – Jucu măsura, în proiectul iniţial, peste 40 de kilometri, iar preţul de realizare a fost estimat la aproximativ 370.000.000 de euro.

Ulterior, s-a decis prelungirea autostrăzii spre Dej cu 35 de kilometri, costurile devenind aproape duble. Autostrada ar urma să se desfăşoare pe patru benzi. Porneşte din comuna Gilău, se intersectează cu nodul denivelat de drumuri de la capătul sudic al comunei Luna şi coboară dealurile până la sud de localitatea Floreşti, în zona unităţii militare.

Traseul parcurge mai departe zona Floreşti până la Cetatea Fetei. Apoi se îndreaptă spre municipiul Cluj-Napoca, prin Făget, în paralel cu centura ocolitoare a Primăriei – tronsonul sud. De aici, drumul ajunge în zona străzilor Câmpului şi E. Ionescu, intră pe strada C. Brâncuşi, H. Coandă şi zona Selgros.

Traversează Băile Someşeni şi intră în zona de locuinţe până la capătul pistei de aterizare-decolare a aeroportului, unde se întretaie cu intersecţia denivelată DN1C (Aurel Vlaicu, Traian Vuia). Ocoleşte apoi localităţile Sânicoară şi Apahida şi continuă prin Jucu spre Dej.


SOURCE: Ziua de Cluj

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OXFORD BUSINESS GROUP
20 February 2008
http://www.oxfordbusinessgroup.com/weekly01.asp?id=3661

Romania's government has laid out plans to extend the motorway network by more than a third this year. This is part of a $19bn investment plan which will enlarge the system to almost 2000 km in the next seven years.

Romania currently has less than 300km of European-standard motorways as part of its 15,900 km "national road" network. This compares unfavourably with countries such as Hungary, a considerably smaller country in terms of both geographical size and population, which has around 650km of motorways.

A plan drawn up by the ministry of transport and the National Company for Motorways and National Roads in Romania (CNADNR) sets out details to extend Romania's motorway network to a total of 1950 km by the end of 2013, including 120 km this year. During this period, some $18.7bn will be invested, including $2.2bn from the EU.

The EU money will specifically be spent on developing motorways along the "Pan-European transport corridors" that have been highlighted as important but under-developed transcontinental routes, of which two pass through the country. One, corridor IX, runs from the Bulgarian border at Giurgiu through Romania, Moldova to Ukraine and Russia. The second, corridor IV, connects the western city of Timisoara with Hungary and Central Europe, and then divides into two different routes, one east through the southern Transylvanian city of Brasov to Bucharest and Constanta on the Black Sea, and the other south through Craiova to Bulgaria and the Aegean Sea.

As the EU corridors suggest, Romania lies at a key position in Europe, but does not have the matching transport infrastructure to unlock its full economic potential. A lack of investment and political squabbles over tenders has hamstrung progress since the fall of the Ceausescu regime in 1989. While Ceausescu completed the admittedly impressive Trans-Fagaras road across the country's highest mountain range and kept the basic transport infrastructure going, only two motorways were completed - the 110km A1 from Bucharest to Pitesti in the north-east and between Bucharest and Constanta, as part of the planned A2 "Sun Motorway".

Progress on extending the A2 has been intermittent. Around 150 km has been completed, and the full 204 km is expected to be operational by 2010. Given the country's economic crises and political turmoil in the 1990s, some delay is not surprising but has prevented the realisation of the port's planned potential and limited the region's economic development.

Meanwhile, another extremely important motorway project, the $10.5bn Autostrada Transilvania, has faced delays due to political issues surrounding the project, but will see two major stages completed this year. This 415km-long motorway will link Brasov, north of Bucharest, to Budapest and Central Europe. The contract was awarded to American firm Bechtel without tender in 2003 by the then socialist government, provoking criticism from European funding bodies. Work was suspended on the election of the Justice and Truth (DA) coalition the following year, but restarted in 2006, still under Bechtel's management. Sections close to the Hungarian border and south of the large city of Cluj Napoca are likely to be completed and operational by the end of this year while the whole road is scheduled to be finished by 2013.

The Autostrada Transilvania will connect with the Bucharest-Brasov motorway, on which construction commenced last year and which is expected to be fully operational by 2014.

The government's seven-year plan also foresees the construction of several other motorways. One will follow the eastern corridor IV route from Timisoara to Constanta; another will go north from the capital to the central city of Targu Mures, and from there to the Moldovan border at Iasi, though this stage of the project has a more tentative timeline. A link from Bucharest to Giurgiu should also be completed.

Several of the motorway projects in Romania, including the Autostrada Transilvana, are being constructed on a build-operate-transfer (BOT) basis. This entails a contractor building the road on the government's behalf, and then operating it as a toll road until it has earned its contract fee, before passing it back into the government's hands. This is, of course, a convenient way to pass many expenses off the state balance sheet, but also encourages the contractor to ensure that the construction is swift, and the road well maintained.

For all the grand plans and optimism, the travails of the Romanian motorway network's development may not all be over. The government faces the hurdle of expropriating an estimated 9000 ha of land along the routes of the planned motorways. This is a difficult enough task in any country, given the problems of land valuation and local opposition. It is even more of a challenge in Romania, with its hazy post-communist land ownership deeds, bureaucracy and occasional but damaging corruption. The government must have the will to match its ambitions.

Very nice. I think the Transilvania motorway has the highest priority, since it can connect to the central and western European markets, as well to the port of Constanta, which can grow to the most important port on the Black Sea.

Very nice. I think the Transilvania motorway has the highest priority, since it can connect to the central and western European markets, as well to the port of Constanta, which can grow to the most important port on the Black Sea.

Yes, Transilvania motorway is the No1 priority of the governement, given the high amount of money it allocated already for this year: over 0.5 billion EUR.

Constanta is already the largest port at the Black Sea after Istambul, but it will grow a lot larger when Transilvania highway and A2 (Bucharest-Constanta) highway will be completed. :cheers:

^^ what about Odessa? (yes i know, not very important for EU markets).

^^ what about Odessa? (yes i know, not very important for EU markets).

AFAIK, Constanta is bigger and has better infrastructure than Odessa, but I think Joce can give you a more detailed answer here. :cheers:

^^
CONSTANTA`s ports & shipyards - news (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=541613)

The Port of Constantza is booming. The traffic in the port is bigger than Odessa, Novorossiysk, Iliychevsk, Varna, Burgas and Poti together. Slowly but surely Constanta will become the new Rotterdam of Europe ! :cheers:

* am vrut sa fac acum un pic de ordine acolo si am sters unele stiri dar nu-mi amintesc care ! :gaah::lol: Nu prea am timp saptamanile urmatoare de SSC dar sper sa repar greseala pe viitor. Am reordonat insa ce a ramas intact ! :cheers:

^^
CONSTANTA`s ports & shipyards - news (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=541613)

The Port of Constantza is booming. The traffic in the port is bigger than Odessa, Novorossiysk, Iliychevsk, Varna, Burgas and Poti together. Slowly but surely Constanta will become the new Rotterdam of Europe ! :cheers:

* am vrut sa fac acum un pic de ordine acolo si am sters unele stiri dar nu-mi amintesc care ! :gaah::lol: Nu prea am timp saptamanile urmatoare de SSC dar sper sa repar greseala pe viitor. Am reordonat insa ce a ramas intact ! :cheers:

Thanks, Joce. But, you mean Constanta is bigger than Odessa, Novorossiysk, Iliychevsk, Varna, Burgas and Poti together as in bigger than Odessa + Novorossiysk + Iliychevsk + Varna + Burgas + Poti in freight traffic??? :cheers:

Exactly ! Check the situation in 2005, page 17 of 26: http://www.osce.org/documents/eea/2007/09/26163_en.pdf

And we are doing much better now than in 2005 ! For instance, the traffic in 2007 (1.411.370 TEU) is almost the double of 2005 (770.000 TEU )! In other words, we kick ass at Black Sea and we`ll kick ass in Europe, too! :cheers:

:cheers::banana:

Exactly ! Check the situation in 2005, page 17 of 26: http://www.osce.org/documents/eea/2007/09/26163_en.pdf

And we are doing much better now than in 2005 ! For instance, the traffic in 2007 (1.411.370 TEU) is almost the double of 2005 (770.000 TEU )! In other words we kick ass at Black Sea and we`ll kick ass in Europe, too! :cheers:

WOW, I really did not expect that! What about Istambul?

(and this is the last question as I do not want to bother you too much as I know you are busy). :cheers:

edit

Isn't that data for one terminal only?

Almost for only one terminal: Constantza South Container Terminal operated by DP World Constanta.

* e doar inceputul ! Traficul a crescut de 10 ori in port in numai cativa ani ! Ce va urma? ... uite ce cred unii: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=18471199&postcount=23

http://www.capital.ro/part/articole/image.php?imagine=79-8746-17business48

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DP World was formed when Dubai Ports Authority ("DPA") and DPI Terminals ("DPI") who are the sole shareholders of Constanta South Container Terminal SRL, merged to create a unified new global port operator.

In November 2003, DPI was awarded a long-term concession to operate Constanta South Container Terminal (CSCT) SRL, a brand new state-of-the-art facility located with excellent deep-draft access near the entrance to Constanta Port. The current capacity of the terminal is approximately 1,000,000 TEU and there is sufficient land area for phased expansion to cater to in-excess of 4,500,000 TEU. :cheers:

Constanta is the largest container port in the Black Sea and with its strategic position at the mouth of the Danube canal, connected via Europe's second river into the heartland of the Eastern and Central Europe.

@Le Clerk: Habar n-am !

Almost for only one terminal: Constantza South Container Terminal administrated by DP World Constanta.

* e doar inceputul ! Traficul a crescut de 10 ori in port in numai cativa ani ! Ce va urma? ... uite ce cred unii: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=18471199&postcount=23

http://www.capital.ro/part/articole/image.php?imagine=79-8746-17business48

In 2006 the Port of Constanţa handled a total traffic of 57.131 million tons of cargo and 1,037,077 of TEU's making it the 9th busiest cargo port in Europe. The port is the main container hub in the Black Sea and all direct lines between Asia and Black Sea call in Constanţa. This is due to the efficiency of the Constanţa South Container Terminal (CSCT) operated by Dubai Ports and to the natural position of the port: deep water (up to 18.5 meters), direct link to the Danube. For 2007, the overall container trafic is of 1.411.370 TEUs with a 36% growth.

:cheers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_of_Constan%C5%A3a

^^
Almost fur sure we surpassed in 2007 Piraeus Port traffic of containers which registrered 1.386.000 TEU in 2006 (8th busiest port) but its traffic declined in 2007. And we won`t stop here ! :cheers:

Anyway, let`s get back to Transilvania Motorway !

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A3 Route
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A3 U/C pictures
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The Romanian goverment late with payments for works on A3 highway
Preşedintele SUA va fi informat, în timp e va survola Transilvania, că România nu achită facturile pentru autostradă

51 milioane de euro – restanţele pe trei luni ale Guvernului
„Transilvania“ - pe agenda NATO a lui Bush
onstructorul autostrăzii „Transilvania” îşi leagă speranţele pentru continuarea lucrărilor la şoseaua căreia i s-a tăiat panglica în iunie 2004 de prezenţa în România a preşedintelui SUA, la summitul NATO. Surse din Ambasada SUA au declarat pentru „Gândul” că oficialii Bechtel vor încerca să-i arate lui George W. Bush autostrada, dacă acesta va survola Transilvania. Preşedintele Bush este posibil să fie însoţit de Riley Bechtel, preşedinte al companiei şi director executiv, şi Zaccaria Adrian, directorul operaţional.

Daca preşedintele american nu va survola Transilvania, atunci ambasadorul Nicholas Taubman îi va prezenta fotografii cu stadiul lucrărilor şi îl va informa că, în ciuda promisiunilor guvernanţilor români („Nu are Bechtel capacitate să lucreze pe cât avem noi bani să dăm” – Călin Popescu Tăriceanu), compania se află în situaţia de-a sista lucrările, deoarece nu i s-au achitat facurile pe decembrie, ianuarie şi februarie (51 de milioane de euro).

Deocamdată, Bechtel lucrea*ză pe datorie – avansul pe 2008, 132 de milioane de euro, fiind cheltuiţi pentru dotări, achiziţii de materiale şi utilaje. Potrivit lui Bogdan Sgârcitu, responsabil cu Comunicarea al Bechtel România, dacă autorităţile nu vor rezolva problema banilor, compania va opri lucrările pe la jumătatea lunii aprilie.

În situaţia în care bugetul pe 2008 a fost epuizat, Guvernul are mai multe variante financiare. Fondul Naţional de Dezvoltare, creat din banii obţinuţi din privatizări şi destinat infrastructurii, nu a fost încă accesat, lucru care-i nemulţumeşte pe oficialii Bechtel. Ar mai fi varianta banilor europeni, dacă autostrada „Transilvania” va fi inclusă într-un nou coridor continental – proiect care s-ar putea finaliza însă numai în 2010, dar şi un credit extern – din cauza procedurii de achiziţie, acesta n-ar putea fi accesat mai repede de 4 – 6 luni.

Ministrul Transporturilor, Ludovic Orban, a declarat pentru „Gândul” că în perioada 15 aprilie – 1 mai va propune guvernului un proiect de hotărâre privind finanţarea autostrăzii din Fondul Naţional de Dezvoltare. Compania Naţională de Autostrăzi intenţionează să dea în folosinţă în acest an 25 de kilometri din autostrada „Transilvania”, de pe tronsonul 2B, Câmpia Turzii-Gilău.

Business Standard
25 martie 2008


Romania’s Minister of Development, Public Works and Housing, Borbely Laszlo, declared Tuesday in Targu Mures that the Bechtel company will complete 45 kilometers of highway this year, namely the Campia Turzii-Gilau section, according to a NewsIn correspondent.

“Bechtel’s work last year was quite good. This year Bechtel was given an advance. Last week the Ministry of Transports expense ceiling was raised by RON 100 million. The Ministry’s budget will surely be supplemented in the coming months. Bechtel must complete 45 km of highway this year.

An advance of €130 million was given and I hope that within one month the supplement will also be clarified. Bechtel requested €400 million for work this year. I am convinced that Bechtel is also eager to work and the government has committed to pay,” added Borbely.

The Minister indicated that an understanding has been signed by Bechtel and the National Roads Agency according to which the builder commits to repair anything it destroys.

Transilvania Highway project changed website layout: http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro

New pictures have been posted for the progress of works in February:

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/2683/86829abutmentwallworksayl0.jpg

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/536/86931elevationworksatkmgl5.jpg

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http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/7723/88408drainagemaskconstrjp9.jpg

Courtesy of: www.autostradatransilvania.ro

Thanks for the news! :cheers:

Btw. Check the video (http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/video/4/600/Autostrada-Transilvania-Vedere-Aeriana.html)

I love it! :banana:

http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/index.php/photos|displayPhoto?ID=896&IDcat=4&y=2008&m=2&download=1&Name=06_Capping%20excavation%20km%2037+800_4.JPG

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March update

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Looking good looking good ... schnell schnell :nuts: ... no wonder the government almost run out of money :lol::cheers: ...

The number of pillars amazes me. Do they want to keep the inclination as low as possible, like on German autobahns?:eek: That'd be cool, otherwise I see no reason for them to build so many short pillars where it's obvious they could just go with the land.

^^ Every motorway should be built this way ... no hills and valleys allowed :lol:

I'm no expert, but the number of pillars or suspended sections is approaching the ridiculous. The area is pretty flat. Seems like a waste of money.

If you look well at the pics, you'll see that the area is full of hills and valleys like pretty much all of Transilvania. This may require the viaducts, since a highway is not like a simple road where cars can go up and down at steep angles. Also, it may be the case that digging entire hills to soften the angles may be more expensive than raising pillars. :cheers:

Don't get me wrong, as nebunul, I too think that every motorway should be built this way. It's just that I'm surprised by so many pillars... I'm surprised because that's a good sign.:lol: I mean... you know... you're Romanians too.:nuts:

ROMANIAN MOTORWAY

Bechtel is driving forward on the biggest highway project now under construction in Europe.

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When Romania celebrated its induction into the European Union in January 2007, its president described EU membership as “the road of our future.” Romania’s economic hopes are also ingrained in an actual road now under construction—the Autostrada Transilvania.
A sleek new national highway will bring the country’s infrastructure in line with that of its new economic partners. The road will likely become the preferred route between the Black Sea and Western Europe.
Bechtel is helping to make the road map a reality. In June 2004, Bechtel and partner Enka broke ground on the $2.2 billion Autostrada Transilvania project, a central piece of Romania’s plans for a national highway system. They are designing and building a 258-mile (415-kilometer), four-lane highway along with 300 bridges, 73 overpasses, and 19 interchanges.
So far, 14 archaeological teams have retrieved artifacts during excavation. Digs around Cluj revealed a 6,500-year-old settlement with huts and 3,300-year-old colored pottery.
Bechtel and Enka have worked hard to reuse as much excavated material as possible. What started as a necessity for construction became an important part of the community affairs program when the team moved soil and planted trees to create a new outdoor recreation area for the rural community of Valisoara.
The first 33-mile (53-kilometer) segment of the motorway is scheduled for completion in February 2010, with other segments opening over the following three years. Analysts are talking about collateral investments equivalent to the motorway’s $2.2 billion cost by 2013, and the country is gearing up for an expected 30 percent increase in tourism.
For Romania, the road ahead looks bright. For more information, see the September 2007 Bechtel Briefs.

^^ From and more on … http://www.bechtel.com/paving-the-way.html

how long is that road in total?

how long is that road in total?
^^
258-mile (415-kilometer)

how about A2, do you know when will the last part be finished? It would be so much easier to get to the sea side in just 2 hours without the Bucharest style trafficjams form Cernavoda to Constanta.

^^2010

I belived 2009 to be the latest date but romanian slowness is no longer surprising me.
Will they open at least a part of it to eliminate the trafic throu Cernavoda or will they open the whole thing in 2010?

^^ "whole"

BTW video http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/video/4/600/Autostrada-Transilvania-Vedere-Aeriana.html

Hope has not been posted before:bash:

Construction ... video - http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/videos/2/4/2008/4/601/Autostrada-Transilvania.html

Great development! Hope to drive on it soon! :banana:

April update

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http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/index.php/photos|displayPhoto?ID=1018&IDcat=4&y=2008&m=4&download=1&Name=12_15+817%20overview.jpg

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http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/index.php/photos|displayPhoto?ID=1016&IDcat=4&y=2008&m=4&download=1&Name=8_34+956%20backfill%20works.jpg

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http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/index.php/photos|displayPhoto?ID=1014&IDcat=4&y=2008&m=4&download=1&Name=4_Fill%20km%2035-37_2.JPG

http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/index.php/photos|displayPhoto?ID=1013&IDcat=4&y=2008&m=4&download=1&Name=2_Fill%20Km%2035+600_2.JPG

Looking awesome. :D :cheers:

It will be nice looking back at this pics in let's say 10 years :)
And i bet the road will look even better then :D

Shouldn't this thread be moved to the "Projects and Construction" section? Same with the one about airports and the other thread dedicated to other Romanian highways.

It's better here, IMHO.
In the Projects and Construction section there are so far only City projects, which are way smaller than this one. This thread is of national importance :D

Update .. pics http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/photos/4/1/categorie/Constructie.html

Motorway peeps from behind the hill
May 06, 2008 - www.citynews.ro


Cluj county residents travelling on the Cluj – Gilau route, near E80 European road, have now been getting a new and impressive view. On their left hand side, 500 m away from the second-hand car shop in Gilau Commune, am entire hill has been cut through by Bechtel excavators, in order to finish the Gilau motorway section.

The view is intriguing: the hill is cut trough the middle, just as a giant knife mercilessly tearing through the trees and the hill left of E80. The section towards Gilau is one of the most important motorway sections in this area, because, according to the design, the road is going to take up the heavy traffic, while improving traffic in Cluj.

The project, which began in 2004, is a four-lane, 415-kilometer motorway, stretching northwest from Brasov in central Romania to Oradea on the country's border with Hungary.

The motorway will cross the entire Transylvanian region from south-east to north-west, going through the following cities: Brasov, Fagaras, Sighisoara, Targu Mures, Cluj-Napoca, Zalau and Oradea. The alignment will start from Brasov, at almost 600 m altitude, will stretch over the Transylvanian Plateau at about 300-400 m altitude, and will go around the Western Carpathians, down to an altitude on 130 m.

The motorway is built by American company Bechtel International, Inc, together with its partner in the region, Turkish company Enka Insaat ve Sanayi.

I'm going to post the new pictures, if you don't mind nebunule..

^^ I even thank you for this. :cheers: It's so bloody busy here ...

http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/photo/4/1073/1/-DSC8623-JPG.html

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Just imagine driving this section. :drool:

Looking great!!!
I look forward to see next week the winner of Bacau bypass (half motorway profile) and, if i'm not mistaking, in a couple of weeks the winner for Arad-Timosoara-Lugoj section of A1 will be awarded.
:cheers:

Great pictures :okay:

http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/index.php/photos|displayPhoto?ID=1067&IDcat=4&y=2008&m=5&download=1&Name=_DSC8582.JPG

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Awesome green.

:cheers: for the pics, Tomis.

What puzzles me a bit is the high number of viaducts on this highway. This was probably discussed before and I have no idea about the terrain composition, but in Eastern France, a hilly area like Transylvania, they didn't erect pillars for every little hill they had to overpass. Take a look at the image below. I wonder if using a solution like this wouldn't have been more cost effective.

A4 autoroute, France Est:

http://en.structurae.de/files/photos/64/autoroute_a4_au_pk_248_au_printemps.jpg

^^ I wonder what happens with such motorway like that in France during heavy floods as we get in Romania?? I am not saying this is an explanation, but just wondering, b/c being on pillars especially in the valleys will significantly reduce the risk that the motorway be submerged into water during floods.

CityNews.ro (http://www.citynews.ro/acasa)
Prima grinda de la Autostrada Transilvania e gata
CityNews.ro, autor: Anamaria Pascal, May 23, 2008


Prima grinda din cadrul sectiunii 2B (Campia Turzii-Gilau) din cadrul Autostrazii Transilvania a fost astazi instalata. Aceasta este o grinda pretensionata, de tip U, si a fost instalata pe viaductul de la km 29+709.
Acest tip de grinzi sunt fabricate la Turda si reprezinta o premiera in Romania. Fiecare grinda cantareste 165 de tone, avand o lungime de 37,1 metri. Pentru producerea unei singure grinde sunt necesare noua tone de fier, 60 de metri cubi de beton si 3,4 tone toroane (ancore metalice care sustin podul).
Pentru finalizarea structurii mai sunt de efectuat cateva etape.
Proiectul Autostrada Transilvania reprezinta o autostrada cu patru benzi, cu o lungime de 415 km, ce porneste din centrul Romaniei, la nord-vest de Brasov, ajungand la Oradea, la granita cu Ungaria. Lucrarile de constructie demarate in iunie 2004 continua pe segmentele de autostrada 2B Campia Turzii - Cluj Vest si 3C Suplacu de Barcau - Bors.
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What puzzles me a bit is the high number of viaducts on this highway. This was probably discussed before and I have no idea about the terrain composition, but in Eastern France, a hilly area like Transylvania, they didn't erect pillars for every little hill they had to overpass. Take a look at the image below. I wonder if using a solution like this wouldn't have been more cost effective.

A4 autoroute, France Est:

http://en.structurae.de/files/photos/64/autoroute_a4_au_pk_248_au_printemps.jpg

It fully depends on the desired design speed... The TEM standards (that were fully transposed in the Romanian design normatives) usually reccomends a 120km/h design speed in which case a horizonatal curve radius should not be less than 650 metres and the maximum slope should not exceed 6%.

Anyway, I guess they mostly present such kind of pictures on their website for PR reasons... The road embankment would certainly be less spectacular.

You are most probably right, but I guess we'll never actually know until they finish the entire project which, to my mind, won't be any earlier than 7 years. :|

5 max

It fully depends on the desired design speed... The TEM standards (that were fully transposed in the Romanian design normatives) usually reccomends a 120km/h design speed in which case a horizonatal curve radius should not be less than 650 metres and the maximum slope should not exceed 6%.

Anyway, I guess they mostly present such kind of pictures on their website for PR reasons... The road embankment would certainly be less spectacular.

And one more thing: let's not forget that we are talking about a design-build project (at least for the sections currently under execution) and it's in the Contractor's best interest to choose the most expensive technical solution when providing the final design...

And one more thing: let's not forget that we are talking about a design-build project (at least for the sections currently under execution) and it's in the Contractor's best interest to choose the most expensive technical solution when providing the final design...

Interesting hint. Still, why so many viaducts and suspended sections?

http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/index.php/photos|displayPhoto?ID=1111&IDcat=4&y=2008&m=5&download=1&Name=41_CSB%20at%20Km%2030+150%20-%2030+960%20RHS.jpg

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http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/index.php/photos|displayPhoto?ID=1100&IDcat=4&y=2008&m=5&download=1&Name=17_ELEVATION%20WORKS%20AT%20KM%2039+500.jpg

http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/index.php/photos|displayPhoto?ID=1099&IDcat=4&y=2008&m=5&download=1&Name=13_Pile%20head%20breaking%20activities%20at%20km%2050+600.jpg

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http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/index.php/photos|displayPhoto?ID=1087&IDcat=4&y=2008&m=5&download=1&Name=26_Viaduct%20km%2014+396-general%20view%202.jpg

http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/index.php/photos|displayPhoto?ID=1085&IDcat=4&y=2008&m=5&download=1&Name=24_P28%20RHS%20and%20LHS%20installation%20of%20rebar%20and%20formwork.jpg

http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/index.php/photos|displayPhoto?ID=1084&IDcat=4&y=2008&m=5&download=1&Name=21_Km%207+570,%20general%20view.jpg

http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/index.php/photos|displayPhoto?ID=1083&IDcat=4&y=2008&m=5&download=1&Name=20_Formwork%20installing%20for%20P5%20RHS%20and%20LHS.jpg

Nice pics :D
I see things are moving... i hope the highway will be finnished soon (what's the deadline btw? 2012?)

Latest and realistic - 2013. Even though the gov has "confirmed" ... 2012 :nuts:

O fi asta autostrada zburatoare a lui Oprescu? :nuts::lol:

At least the workers who work at the highway seem a bit more civilized, not like our classic darker-skinned and unreliable "friends" :)

At least the workers who work at the highway seem a bit more civilized, not like our classic darker-skinned and unreliable "friends" :)

A little racist there aren't we? I know what you mean by unreliable workers we see in Bucharest, but common, can we keep out the darker-skinned part out. If people keep discriminating like this, they are never gonna integrate in our society, I am trying to be helpful :)

Anyways, on topic, I really like the way things are looking, looks like a professional done project that you don't see everyday in Romania, I am very happy :) I just hope that the workers in Bucharest can have the same work ethic instead of trying to sell their work equipment illegally :(

In the above quote... i put the situation as nicely as i will ever be able to, so don't ask more from me regarding this issue. I know very few civilized ones, and i keep them out of that category, but the others...
I will not insist on this topic:) I don't want to get myself a ban.

Jaysont34 since when is speaking the truth considered to be racism ?? The fact still remains that our dark pigmented friends hate work. This is not about race, this is about they're way of life and mentality and if we keep allowing them to say they are discriminated then for sure that they will keep living the way they do now and never integrate. The only discrimination they get in Romania is a positive one, so lets leave the discrimination bit out.

deci eu de acum doar urmaresc Topice create de Nebunul :D

HotNews.ro
Joi, 12 iunie 2008, 14:38 Ultima ora

Ludovic Orban: Primii 25 de kilometri ai Autostrazii Transilvania vor fi gata anul acesta



Ministrul Transporturilor, Ludovic Orban, a declarat, astazi, ca primii 25 de kilometri din Autostrada Transilvania urmeaza sa fie gata in acest an, adaugand ca exista intarzieri si ca Guvernul va aloca, la rectificarea bugetara de la sfarsitul lunii iunie, 200 de milioane de euro pentru Autostrada, potrivit Mediafax.

"La rectificarea bugetara de la sfarsitul lui iunie 2008 vor fi alocate de la buget 200 de milioane de euro pentru anul 2008. Sunt intarzieri in raport cu graficul lucrarilor la autostrada, ei (compania Bechtel) au incercat sa explice ca intarzierile au avut loc pentru ca nu a existat garantia finantarii. Dar nu au cheltuit ce le-am dat pana acum. Am vorbit si pentru anul viitor, cand vom aloca 500 de milioane de euro pentru doua tronsoane noi de autostrada", a afirmat Orban.

Ludovic Orban a adaugat ca principalul obiectiv al Ministerului in privinta Autostrazii este unirea tronsonului de la Cluj cu cel de la Suplacu de Barcau.

Directorul de comunicare al Companiei Nationale de Autostrazi si Drumuri Nationale (CNADN), stefan Szobotka, declarase, in 12 mai, ca pana in luna noiembrie a acestui an vor fi dati in folosinta primii 35 de kilometri ai Autostrazii Transilvania.

Source: www.zf.ro

Compania americana Bechtel, constructorul Autostrazii Transilvania, estimeaza ca in perioada de varf a lucrarilor, care va fi atinsa in 2010, numarul angajatilor va fi de 2,5 ori mai mare decat in prezent.

Pentru Bechtel lucreaza in prezent aproape 3.000 de angajati, din acestia 93% fiind romani. Reprezentantii companiei sustin ca personalul a ajuns la numarul optim si nu mai au nevoie de oameni in plus la momentul actual. "Estimam ca, pentru perioada de varf a constructiilor, care va fi atinsa in 2010, compania noastra va avea peste 8.000 de angajati", a declarat pentru ZF Transilvania Bogdan Sgarcitu, directorul de comunicare al Bechtel.

Cititi in ZIARUL FINANCIAR de maine ce lucrari se efectueaza in momentul de fata pe Autostrada Transilvania si care sunt problemele reprezentantilor Bechtel.

Cotidianul
25/06/2008




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Bechtel va deschide traficului 25 de kilometri din Autostrada Transilvania. Utilitatea acestora pentru 2008 este îndoielnică.


Pentru a intra sau ieşi de pe cei 25 de kilometri, şoferii vor fi obligaţi să parcurgă alte zeci de kilometri pe drumuri judeţene desfundate, ca urmare a traficului greu de pe acesta, cauzate de camioanele companiei Bechtel. Conducerea Companiei Naţionale de Autostrăzi şi Drumuri Naţionale din România (CNADNR) se contrazice însă cu cea a lui Bechtel privitor la lungimea porţiunii de autostradă care va fi deschisă.

Până la finele anului va fi deschis aproape întregul tronson 2B de autostradă, anume Turda-Gilău, aproape 50 de kilometri, a declarat săptămâna trecută pentru NewsIn Dorin Debucean, director general al CNADNR. Lungimea întregului tronson este de 54 de kilometri, iar acesta este cuprins între Câmpia Turzii şi Gilău. Tronsonul deschis va reprezenta Centura de Sud a Clujului, a declarat Debucean.

Porţiunea indicată de directorul general al CNADNR, ar fi într-adevăr o variantă confortabilă pentru şoferi. Aceasta ar permite ocolirea DN 1, foarte aglomerat între Turda, Cluj şi Gilău. Şoferii ar urma să intre pe tronsonul de autostradă din DN 1 la Turda, apoi să iasă în acelaşi drum naţional la Gilău.

Pentru aceasta ar trebui ca întregul tronson să fie gata, inclusiv două noduri rutiere proiectate la capetele acestuia. Potrivit declaraţiilor făcute însă de oficialii Bechtel până la finele anului va fi definitivat doar o jumătate a tronsonul iar acesta nu va avea nici un nod rutier, ci doar nişte bretele care vor face legătura cu două drumuri judeţene desfundate, ca urmare a traficului greu de camioane din zonă.

„Anul acesta vor fi deschişi 25 de kilometri, adică porţiunea Tureni-Vălişoara, kilometrii 17-42 din autostradă. Prin proiect, nodurile rutiere sunt prevăzute în localităţile Câmpia Turzii-Turda-Gilău (în afara porţiunii deschise - n.red.)“, a declarat ieri Bogdan Sgârcitu, purtător de cuvânt al Bechtel.

Dacă vor dori să meargă pe autostradă spre Cluj, automobiliştii vor trebui mai întâi să intre pe aceasta pe o porţiune de câţiva kilometri de drum judeţean între Tureni şi autostradă, iar apoi să iasă de pe aceasta la jumătate, în zona Ciurila, pentru a se îndrepta pe DJ 107, preţ de 10-15 kilometri spre Cluj. Porţiunea parcursă pe autostradă va fi deci de 15 kilometri, cel puţin atât trebuind parcurşi pe drumuri judeţene, cu câte o bandă pe sens. O altă variantă pentru drumul spre Cluj ar fi traseul Vălişoara-Luna, apoi să se întoarcă pe DN 1 la Cluj. Acesta este ca lungime aproape dublu faţă de traseul clasic pe drumul naţional.

Consiliul Judeţean Cluj a introdus restricţii de viteză şi tonaj pe DJ 107L, DJ 107M şi DJ 103V, deoarece acestea au fost degradate de către camioanele Bechtel. În cazul în care şoferii vor să ocolească pe autostradă Clujul, vor fi obligaţi de asemenea să-şi continue drumul tot pe DJ 103V, de la Vălişoara până la intersecţia acestuia cu DN 1 la Gilău. Ministrul Orban a declarat, la începutul lunii iunie, la Cluj, că anul acesta vor fi daţi în folosinţă primii 25 de kilometri din Autostrada Transilvania, pe tronsonul Câmpia Turzii - Gilău.

Drumul judeţean plus autostrada bat DN1

Ştefan Szobotka, purtător de cuvânt al CNADNR, spune că, chiar mergând pe drumuri judeţene pentru a intra şi ieşi de pe autostradă, şoferii „vor economisi o oră“. Aceasta deoarece se evită mai multe radare, se scapă de mai multe sate care trebuie traversate în cazul traseului DN 1, spune Ştefan Szobotka. Potrivit angajamentelor luate de Bechtel faţă de Guvern, dar şi declaraţiilor făcute de oficialii români, firma americană ar fi trebuit să predea până la finele anului întregul tronson de 54 de kilometri. Deşi a primit până în prezent 500 de milioane de euro, suma totală primită putând ajunge la finele anului spre un miliard de euro, Bechtel înregistrează întârzierea atât pe tronsonul 2B cât şi pe celelalte tronsoane. Un raport făcut de consultantul francez Scetauroute în luna octombrie pune sub semnul întrebării raportările optimiste făcute de firma americană.

Autor: Ziarul Financiar
Data: 27-06-2008



Bechtel to hire another 5,000 workers for motorway by 2010

American-based Bechtel, the builder of Transilvania Motorway, estimates its number of employees in 2010 will be 2.5 times higher than at present. Almost 3,000 employees are currently working for Bechtel, 93% of whom are Romanians.

Representatives of the American company say they have reached the optimum number and do not need any more staff at present. "We estimate that in the peak period of constructions, which will be attained in 2007, our company will have over 8,000 employees", Bogdan Sgarcitu, communications manager of Bechtel, told ZF Transilvania.

According to information provided by officials of the American builder, works on the Transilvania Motorway are in progress, in various stages, on the 2B section (Cluj West - Campia Turzii) and on the 3C section (Suplacu de Barcau - Bors). Around 80% of expropriation of land has been conducted on the 2B section, and just 46% on the 3C section.
Sursa: www.zf.ro/articol_177638

June update - http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/photos/Galerie-Multimedia.html

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The story (http://www.clujeanul.ro/saptamanal/secretele-autostrazii-transilvania-toate-amanuntele-despre-primii-25-de-kilometri-i-locurile-2832377) of Transilvania Motorway - the largest project of the kind in Europe.

Guran la bizbazar, acu' 5 minute: Primul kilometru a fost asfaltat azi si pana la sfasitul anului vor fi gata 60:banana:. Desi... nu gasesc stirea in alta parte, deci ii cam dubios.

http://www.antena3.ro/videocal.php?em=biz
luni, 4, minutul 29.

Nice update (http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/photos/4/Constructie.html) !!!! for july :banana:

Can someone explain this to me???

http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/photo/4/1159/1/27-General-view-at-km-7-570-jpg.html

Can someone explain this to me???

http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/photo/4/1159/1/27-General-view-at-km-7-570-jpg.html

Seems like a Motorway exit to me... I'm not very sure, anyway... But given the marshes around I'm not surprised that it has been decided to be built that way...

July
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August update :cheers:
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^^ video http://www.protv.ro/filme/asfaltare-cu-viteza-melcului-pe-autostrada-transilvania.html?id_file=60191
25 km of motorway to be completed (in use) by the end of this year

^^ first 5 km (25km)^^ :cheers:

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http://www.evz.ro/articole/detalii-articol/817271/Primii-cinci-kilometri-din-autostrada-Bechtel/

video http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/videos/2/4/2008/8/603/Prima-TV.html

http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/index.php/photos%7CdisplayPhoto?ID=1190&IDcat=39&y=2008&m=8&download=1&Name=DSC03306.JPG

1 september, km 30

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Can someone explain this to me???

http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/photo/4/1159/1/27-General-view-at-km-7-570-jpg.html

It is quite simple. It is a pure example of romanian way of doing. There is going to be a lake to serve I do not know what...(Oradea??? fresh water suply). Because ministries can not colaborate and make the motorway over the dam, the motorway is crossing the future lake. The lake, as you see is still not done, although the initial concept design of that brigde is from 2003-2004.

^^ are you serious? is there a lake planned for this ^^ area !?

^^ are you serious? is there a lake planned for this ^^ area !?


yeap.....
here is a link in romanian.

http://www.suplacudebarcau.ro/dategeografice_ro.html

^^ not a lake but a floodable area you mean?
That's what we thought/guessed also :cheers:

^^
^^ I wonder what happens with such motorway like that in France during heavy floods as we get in Romania?? I am not saying this is an explanation, but just wondering, b/c being on pillars especially in the valleys will significantly reduce the risk that the motorway be submerged into water during floods.

:D

^^


:D

It does not really worth design a motorway for covering such a risk. That is going to be a lake all the time, whne the dam si completed.

Usually the motorway is design to withstand rains in 50years or even in 100, depending on the element.

Statistically you might have 2-3 huge rains in consecutive years and than for hundreds of years nothing.

It is not economicaly fesable to design the motorway for rains you might have 1 in 200 or 500 years.

It does not really worth design a motorway for covering such a risk. That is going to be a lake all the time, whne the dam si completed.

Usually the motorway is design to withstand rains in 50years or even in 100, depending on the element.

Statistically you might have 2-3 huge rains in consecutive years and than for hundreds of years nothing.

It is not economicaly fesable to design the motorway for rains you might have 1 in 200 or 500 years.


^^ Of course it is :nuts: ... A/FEW flood may (surely) be more expensive in the long run ...

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^^ Of course it is :nuts: ... A/FEW flood may (surely) be more expensive in the long run ...

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Yeap....it crosses only rivers with fludding potential.
But still, it is not reasonalbe to design a structure to withstand floods that occure only once in 500 or 10000 years.

Alecu, how often do you watch TV news? Romania has each and every year floods virtually accross the country. How can you say that floods come only at 500 years intervals???:?

Plus see dates on the map I posted above :nuts:

Alecu, how often do you watch TV news? Romania has each and every year floods virtually accross the country. How can you say that floods come only at 500 years intervals???:?
We speak about two diffrent things...that do not exclude eachother.
A flood is something and to design a structure to withstand that flood is something else. The flood exist, but very rare they demolish a bridge. With old roads is a little bit diffrent.

The flood exist, but very rare they demolish a bridge.

... ask yourself WHY?! :nuts:

... ask yourself WHY?! :nuts:

i think alecu wants to say that of course there are floods but bridges are designated to support normal floods in the area they are build.they can be build to sustain such a big flood that appears once in 100 years but not once in 500 or 1000years.it's not economically feasible to do so.but that's only statistical.

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i think alecu wants to say that of course there are floods but bridges are designated to support normal floods in the area they are build.they can be build to sustain such a big flood that appears once in 100 years but not once in 500 or 1000years.it's not economically feasible to do so.but that's only statistical.

I understood his point ... BUT... architects and engineers design structures taking in consideration all potential risks; they use official, well researched statistics ... so unless alecu has got data (official sources) that says otherwise, we have to trust the specialists :cheers:
And again I've posted official data showing flood risks on Barcau river ... dated June 2008 :)

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I understood his point ... BUT... architects and engineers design structures taking in consideration all potential risks; they use official, well researched statistics ... so unless alecu has got data (official sources) that says otherwise, we have to trust the specialists :cheers:
And again I've posted official data showing flood risks on Barcau river ... dated June 2008 :)

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yes, but the motorway should be capable of sustaining the risk that can appear during a normal flood on barcau, somesu mic, aries or any other river with flooding potential in its way and also during an exceptional flood, that may appear in 50 or 100 years.
for example:this summer i passed through visegrad town in bosnia, on drina river.there was a flood there in 1890 and the level of water was shown, being way higher than almost every road there.question:is it wisely to make a road so high and to maximize the execution costs, since that kind of flood was never encounter since then?By the way, the budget of transylvania motorway is very big, and is very hard for the government to sustain it.

^^ Again, there are very strict design criteria ... do you have data to prove otherwise?

source1
REGIONS AFFECTED BY FLOOD
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http://www.grid.unep.ch/product/publication/freshwater_europe/resources.php

source2
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/2648/ffci5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://www.gsf.fi/projects/espon/Floods.htm

^^ Again, there are very strict design criteria ... do you have data to prove otherwise?

source1
REGIONS AFFECTED BY FLOOD
http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/7711/floodlc6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://www.grid.unep.ch/product/publication/freshwater_europe/resources.php

source2
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/2648/ffci5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://www.gsf.fi/projects/espon/Floods.htm

of course there are very strict design criteria, i haven't say anything against it.but the design criteria aren't realized to compete with a flood that may appear once in 1000years.

^^ That's what I'm saying to you ... if you and alecu can provide a document that says there is no major flood risks over the next 100 ("1000":)) years and that those chosen structures are oversized, you've got a point ... otherwise it is foolish, childish and unprofessional to presume that specialists are wasting billions just coz they want to ... not coz it's needed, not coz the design criteria says so: nuts: BTW I do understand RO-MEDIA-PARANOIA but I do not accept accusation without proof … :cheers:

And in the current global warming climate, design requirements and hypothesis are ever changing ... see also http://www.vejdirektoratet.dk/nordisk/documents/Approach,%20method%20and%20tool%20for%20risk%20management.ppt.

What if it will be an emergency reservoir? It gets artificially filled with a flooding river's water. This basin might be a natural reservoir,and will be used as such.

^^ I want the reservoir to be filled with water after the highway gets completed. Imagine the feeling to drive on the highway suspended on a lake for so many kliks. :banana:

:cheers:^^ Confirmed :cheers:

Viaductul va traversa un viitor lac de acumulare de la Suplacu de Barcău, realizat pentru a preîntâmpina inundaţiile. Acesta va avea o lungime de 1,8 km şi va fi cel mai mare viaduct din această zonă a Europei. “Lucrăm intens la viaduct, majoritatea din cele 1.000 de coloane necesare au fost puse şi s-a început lucrul şi la unele pile. Viaductul iese din pământ”, ne-a spus reprezentantul companiei Bechtel, Bogdan Sgârcitu.

google translation for RawLee
Viaduct will cross the future accumulation lake from the Barc Suplacu designed to prevent flooding. It will have a length of 1.8 km and will be the highest viaduct in this area of Europe. "We're working intensely to viaduct, most of the 1,000 needed columns have been released and has begun work and some piles. Viaduct leaving the ground, "he told the representative of Bechtel, Bogdan Sgârcitu.
more info http://www.ziuadecj.ro/action/article?ID=4708

^^ I only needed a source alecu :cheers:
There is going to be a lake to serve I do not know what...(Oradea??? fresh water suply). Because ministries can not colaborate and make the motorway over the dam, the motorway is crossing the future lake.

All pictures and videos http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/photos/Galerie-Multimedia.html
Latest video August - http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/videos/2/4/2008/8/603/Prima-TV.html

^^ I want the reservoir to be filled with water after the highway gets completed. Imagine the feeling to drive on the highway suspended on a lake for so many kliks. :banana:

Here you go:

http://www.steelbuildingshq.com/wp-content/uploads/Lake-Pontchartrain-Causeway2.jpg

Except that Lake Pontchartrain Causeway is 38.42 km-long.:nuts:

Here it is from Landsat.:) The big city is New Orleans.
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I've been there.

Here you go:

http://www.steelbuildingshq.com/wp-content/uploads/Lake-Pontchartrain-Causeway2.jpg

Naiss. Is that flooded or just a lake? :cheers:

^^It's a lake!
Except that Lake Pontchartrain Causeway is 38.42 km-long.:nuts:

Here it is from Landsat.:) The big city is New Orleans.
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Oh, I thought it was from Hungary. Now I get it. Thanks. :cheers:

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http://www.jurnalul.ro/articole/134312/ochelari-de-cal---bechtel-lucreaza-repede-si-bine-spune-cnadnr

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details http://www.evz.ro/articole/detalii-articol/824622/Bechtel-da-in-folosinta-zero-kilometri-de-autostrada/

^^

De la 2 la 7 miliarde euro... ce de vile si chiu-shapte si-au tras unii smecheri de banii aia. :bash:

^^

De la 2 la 7 miliarde euro... ce de vile si chiu-shapte si-au tras unii smecheri de banii aia. :bash:

S-au scumpit multe din 2003!!!!

de x3? in EURO? sa fim seriosi... :ohno:

de x3? in EURO? sa fim seriosi... :ohno:

Petrolul era $30 in 2003. Acum e $80 (dar a fost si $150). Doar un exemplu.

Contractul a fost facut foarte prost daca s-a intamplat asta. De obicei se pune o limita a pretului, daca e vorba de un pret de deviz (cum este cazul aici). Rhemaxos poate confirma.

Contractul a fost facut foarte prost daca s-a intamplat asta. De obicei se pune o limita a pretului, daca e vorba de un pret de deviz (cum este cazul aici). Rhemaxos poate confirma.

Nu cred ca-si puteau asuma riscul asta. Daca ar fi semnat un contract de 2 miliarde iar costul final ar de 7 miliarde, cum crezi ca ar rezista la o pierdere de 5 miliarde?

Nu neaparat sa isi asume riscul. Se putea pune o clauza de reziliere a contractului pentru o asemenea situatie. Din cate inteleg, statul roman nu poate iesi din acest contract pentru motivul ca pretul de deviz se va tripla, pentru ca va urma sa plateasca daune foarte mari catre Bechtel (probabil de nivelul miliardelor de EUR).

Nu neaparat sa isi asume riscul. Se putea pune o clauza de reziliere a contractului pentru o asemenea situatie. Din cate inteleg, statul roman nu poate iesi din acest contract pentru motivul ca pretul de deviz se va tripla, pentru ca va urma sa plateasca daune foarte mari catre Bechtel (probabil de nivelul miliardelor de EUR).

O asemena clauza n-ar fi fost o idee rea dar e mai important sa se construiasca autostrada. Romania, cu infrastructura care n-o are, nu-si permite manevre din astea.

Nu toate afacerile paguboase sunt in mod necesar ne-legale. In cazul de fata contractul este pur si simplu dezavantajos pentru una din Parti.

Existenta unei clauze de revizuire a preturilor nu este o problema in sine. Revizuirea preturilor cu indicii relevanti de inflatie nu conduce la cresterea profitului antreprenorilor ci vizeaza doar acoperirea costurilor reale de executie ale acestora. Eu, unul, nu as recomanda nimanui (mai ales in actualul context) sa semneze contracte multi-anuale de lucrari cu preturi fixe. Nu va uitati la rata generala a inflatiei. UItati-va la indicii specifici de pret din buletinele statistice lunare ale INS-ului. Pretul bitumului s-a dublat intr-un an, pretul otelului a explodat si el in 2008. La fel costurile cu manopera - unde ne confruntam si cu un deficit major de forta de munca calificata. Stiu cazuri concrete in care antreprenorii au ajuns sa lucreze in pierdere (pentru fiecare euro pus in opera li se ramburseaza in baza preturilor de oferta 60 - 70 de centi). Or ideea nu e sa ii aducem la faliment... In orice caz, nu stiu cum arata formula de escaladare din contractul asta si n-am nicio idee care sunt indicii utilizati si ponderile acestora in formarea fiecarui pret. Aspecte ce pot parea nesemnificative la o prima vedere pot avea consecinte financiare foarte importante pentru Parti si, auzind sumele vehiculate prin presa, tare mi-e teama ca partea romana a cam dat-o in bara si la capitolul asta...

Problema ce mare cu Bechtel-ul este ca a fost gandit ca un contract "clasic" de executie lucrari (listele sunt indicative iar platile se executa pe baza re-masurarii cantitatilor reale puse in opera), in conditiile in care contractul este (sau cel putin era - in varianta lui initiala) unul de proiectare - executie iar "documentatia tehnica" pe baza careia s-au redactat cerintele beneficiarului a fost un foarte vag studiu de pre-fezabilitate nici pe departe suficient de detaliat pentru asa ceva. In mod normal, un astfel de "contract" trebuia semnat pe suma globala, defalcata pe obiecte individuale de constructie.

Rhemaxos,

Intr-adevar, formula de pret cea mai avantajoasa pentru beneficiar este formula pretului fix, astfel incat antreprenorul sa isi asume toate riscurile legate de o posibila escaladare a pretului cauzata de cresterea pretului la materiale, utilaje, mana de lucru etc. Insa sunt foarte putini antreprenori care sa isi asume un asemenea risc, mai ales atunci cand vorbim de contracte pe o durata lunga.

Intotdeauna este bine sa existe o clauza de iesire din contract pentru conditii vadit dezavantajoase pentru parti si mai ales la astfel de contracte. Te-as intreba ceva, de curiozitate. Cat ar costa proiectul Bechtel azi, daca statul roman ar putea rezilia contractul, si ar angaja nu unul, ci mai multi antreprenori pentru cate o sectiune de lucrari, asa cum se face la celelalte autostrazi? Ar ajunge pretul tot la 7 miliarde EURO?

^^ mai mult ... si oricum noi vom plati ~10 :lol:

Autostrada de centura a Constantei (care implica si ea o multime de viaducte si un teren dificil) costa aproximativ 200 milioane de EURO (a fost contractata anul asta) pe o lungime de ~25 km. Un calcul simplu arata ca cei 400 km de autostrada Bechtel ar costa prin echivalenta aproximativ 3.2 miliarde EUR. Hai sa spunem 4 miliarde. Dar nu 7 sau 10 cum se vehiculeaza acum!! :ohno:

Rhemaxos,

Intr-adevar, formula de pret cea mai avantajoasa pentru beneficiar este formula pretului fix, astfel incat antreprenorul sa isi asume toate riscurile legate de o posibila escaladare a pretului cauzata de cresterea pretului la materiale, utilaje, mana de lucru etc. Insa sunt foarte putini antreprenori care sa isi asume un asemenea risc, mai ales atunci cand vorbim de contracte pe o durata lunga.

Un contract ar trebui, ca principiu, sa pastreze un echilibru atent intre drepturile si obligatiile ambelor Parti. Personal, nu mi se pare rezonabil ca Antreprenorii sa suporte singuri riscul inflatiei, mai ales in conditiile in care piata de profil este profund dezechilibrata.

Intotdeauna este bine sa existe o clauza de iesire din contract pentru conditii vadit dezavantajoase pentru parti si mai ales la astfel de contracte.

De acord. In principiu, aspectele astea sunt acoperite si de Codul Civil care este parte din legea care guverneaza contractul.

Te-as intreba ceva, de curiozitate. Cat ar costa proiectul Bechtel azi, daca statul roman ar putea rezilia contractul, si ar angaja nu unul, ci mai multi antreprenori pentru cate o sectiune de lucrari, asa cum se face la celelalte autostrazi? Ar ajunge pretul tot la 7 miliarde EURO?

E foarte greu de spus. Probabil ca ar costa mai putin daca ne gandim ca in actualul contract, mai toate riscurile cheie sed bine-mersi la beneficiar. Unul din avantajele atribuirii unor lucrari in regim de design-build (ceea ce s-ar fi vrut initial) este ca riscul de proiectare este transferat catre Antreprenor. Dar sa semnezi design-build cu liste de cantitati si payment against measurement e stupid. Nu numai ca iti anulezi avantajul teoretic dar, mai mult, il pui pe Antreprnor in situatia ideala de a alege nestingherit solutiile de proiectare cele mai scumpe - el fiind platit pe baza cantitatilor reale puse in opera.

Oricum, e cert ca rezilierea si re-licitarea ar duce la costuri mult mai mari decat se estima in 2003 (2,2 miliarde de euro - sau chiar dolari). Nici cifra de 7 miliarde de euro nu este altceva decat tot o estimare, realizata cel mai probabil probabil prin proiectia evolutiei de pana acum a indicilor specifici de pret in orizontul de timp 2013. Marea necunoscuta intr-un astfel de scenariu o reprezinta insa costurile de reziliere care ar putea sa fie incredibil de mari.

Un contract ar trebui, ca principiu, sa pastreze un echilibru atent intre drepturile si obligatiile ambelor Parti. Personal, nu mi se pare rezonabil ca Antreprenorii sa suporte singuri riscul inflatiei, mai ales in conditiile in care piata de profil este profund dezechilibrata.

Exact asta spun si eu. Ce echilibru al riscurilor exista cand beneficiarul trebuie sa suporte toate cresterile masive de preturi fara absolut nicio posibilitate de a iesi din contract, chiar si atunci cand finantarea pentru lucrari nu mai este acoperita sau devine neeconomic.


De acord. In principiu, aspectele astea sunt acoperite si de Codul Civil care este parte din legea care guverneaza contractul.

Nu cred ca poti iesi din contract pentru depasirea unui plafon de pret, in cazul unui contract in care pretul se stabileste pe baza de deviz. De fapt, asta si e problema statului roman acum - nu poate iesi din contract fara daune imense.


E foarte greu de spus. Probabil ca ar costa mai putin daca ne gandim ca in actualul contract, mai toate riscurile cheie sed bine-mersi la beneficiar. Unul din avantajele atribuirii unor lucrari in regim de design-build (ceea ce s-ar fi vrut initial) este ca riscul de proiectare este transferat catre Antreprenor. Dar sa semnezi design-build cu liste de cantitati si payment against measurement e stupid. Nu numai ca iti anulezi avantajul teoretic dar, mai mult, il pui pe Antreprnor in situatia ideala de a alege nestingherit solutiile de proiectare cele mai scumpe - el fiind platit pe baza cantitatilor reale puse in opera.

I am with you here.:)

Oricum, e cert ca rezilierea si re-licitarea ar duce la costuri mult mai mari decat se estima in 2003 (2,2 miliarde de euro - sau chiar dolari). Nici cifra de 7 miliarde de euro nu este altceva decat tot o estimare, realizata cel mai probabil probabil prin proiectia evolutiei de pana acum a indicilor specifici de pret in orizontul de timp 2013. Marea necunoscuta intr-un astfel de scenariu o reprezinta insa costurile de reziliere care ar putea sa fie incredibil de mari.

Bun, eu inteleg ca daca e sa adaugi costurile de reziliere la cele de contractare a noi antreprenori, costul final va sari de cele 7 miliarde de Euro vehiculate. Dar, daca nu ar exista acest cost de reziliere? Cat ar costa cei 400 km de autostrada, la preturile la care se contracteaza acum (anul asta)? (PS: Sper ca centura Constantei s-a contractat la pret forfetar. :bash:)

Dar sa semnezi design-build cu liste de cantitati si payment against measurement e stupid. Nu numai ca iti anulezi avantajul teoretic dar, mai mult, il pui pe Antreprnor in situatia ideala de a alege nestingherit solutiile de proiectare cele mai scumpe - el fiind platit pe baza cantitatilor reale puse in opera.

Pai in momentul in care nu licitezi lucrarea si nu stringi macar 3 oferte (fie si design-built) este si normal sa patesti asa. Eu niciodata nu dau vina pe antreprenor … beneficiarul (mai ales ca e vorba de stat) are intotdeauna controlul investitiei. Se pot face greseli de 10-20% max … dar cind discutam de dublarea costurilor, deja miroase a imcompetenta sau/si coruptie …

Un contract ar trebui, ca principiu, sa pastreze un echilibru atent intre drepturile si obligatiile ambelor Parti. Personal, nu mi se pare rezonabil ca Antreprenorii sa suporte singuri riscul inflatiei, mai ales in conditiile in care piata de profil este profund dezechilibrata.

Exact asta spun si eu. Ce echilibru al riscurilor exista cand beneficiarul trebuie sa suporte toate cresterile masive de preturi fara absolut nicio posibilitate de a iesi din contract, chiar si atunci cand finantarea pentru lucrari nu mai este acoperita sau devine neeconomic. Sunt de acord ca nu antreprenorul ar trebui sa isi asume acest risc, dar ce faci atunci cand ai un proiect care se intinde pe 10 ani, costa miliarde de EUro si il dai si la pret de deviz? Nu iti iei macar o marja de siguranta sa poti iesi din contract atunci cand pretul devine foarte greu de sustinut financiar din diverse motive care nu pot fi prevazute la momentul contractarii? E vorba de o perioada foarte lunga de timp in care beneficiarul isi asuma niste riscuri fata de care nu are niciun control.

De acord. In principiu, aspectele astea sunt acoperite si de Codul Civil care este parte din legea care guverneaza contractul.

Nu cred ca poti iesi din contract pentru depasirea unui plafon de pret, in cazul unui contract in care pretul se stabileste pe baza de deviz. De fapt, asta si e problema statului roman acum - nu poate iesi din contract fara daune imense.


E foarte greu de spus. Probabil ca ar costa mai putin daca ne gandim ca in actualul contract, mai toate riscurile cheie sed bine-mersi la beneficiar. Unul din avantajele atribuirii unor lucrari in regim de design-build (ceea ce s-ar fi vrut initial) este ca riscul de proiectare este transferat catre Antreprenor. Dar sa semnezi design-build cu liste de cantitati si payment against measurement e stupid. Nu numai ca iti anulezi avantajul teoretic dar, mai mult, il pui pe Antreprnor in situatia ideala de a alege nestingherit solutiile de proiectare cele mai scumpe - el fiind platit pe baza cantitatilor reale puse in opera.

I am with you here.:)

Oricum, e cert ca rezilierea si re-licitarea ar duce la costuri mult mai mari decat se estima in 2003 (2,2 miliarde de euro - sau chiar dolari). Nici cifra de 7 miliarde de euro nu este altceva decat tot o estimare, realizata cel mai probabil probabil prin proiectia evolutiei de pana acum a indicilor specifici de pret in orizontul de timp 2013. Marea necunoscuta intr-un astfel de scenariu o reprezinta insa costurile de reziliere care ar putea sa fie incredibil de mari.

Bun, eu inteleg ca daca e sa adaugi costurile de reziliere la cele de contractare a noi antreprenori, costul final va sari de cele 7 miliarde de Euro vehiculate. Dar, daca nu ar exista acest cost de reziliere? Cat ar costa cei 400 km de autostrada, la preturile la care se contracteaza acum (anul asta)? (PS: Sper ca centura Constantei s-a contractat la pret forfetar. :bash:)

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^^ guys, design-build este o solutie foarte utilizata afara; mai ales ca se poate impune un pret fix. Deci daca beneficiarul face un studiu de fezabilitate corect, traseaza caietul de sarcini bine, angajeza specialisti sa (propuna/impuna) solutiile tehnice (spec of works), in situatia de fata - cresterea preturilor, criza financiara - acest tip de contract ne-ar fi avantajat semnificativ. Again, beneficiarul trebuie sa forteze riscurile spre antreprenor ... mai pe romaneste: banii sint la mine si eu fac regulile ...dar noi stim care-i adevarul si cite "qiu-sapte":lol: se intrec pe drumurile de tara ale patriei ...

Chiar si pentru specifications se poate transfera riscul la antreprenor in cazul unui beneficiar diligent. De fapt lucrul acesta se intampla in mod frecvent in practica mai ales la beneficiari privati.

You guys need to calm down and accept reality. This contract was negotiated between the governments of two corrupt countries (Romania and the US) and major beneficiary of it will be Bechtel...specialist in cost-plus projects and with great (and I mean great) connections in Washington. Under the circumstances, the escalating costs, the poor planning and the lack of alternatives for the Romanian tax payers should be no surprise...actually they should be expected. You guys talk as if you live in Finland. Wake up.

Rhemaxos, am o curiozitate. Stiu ca o mare parte a achiziilor de lucrari din bani publici vor trebuie sa fie contractate pe sistemul FIDIC de acum inainte. Care este nivelul de cunoastere a FIDIC-ului in autoritatile contractante la acest moment (si daca este scazut, cum vor solutiona autoritatile contractante aceasta problema? vor angaja consulanti externi?)?

Singurii 9 kilometri din Autostrada Bechtel risca sa fie decopertati

♦ Cei noua kilometri de autostrada, cu care se lauda actualul Guvern, ar putea fi decopertati pentru ca materialele folosite nu corespund calitativ.
♦ „De pe cei 9 kilometri pe care a fost turnata numai mixtura asfaltica au fost luate probe. Directia de calitate din CNADNR a cerut deja decopertarea a 100 de metri si s-ar putea sa obligam compania Bechtel sa decoperteze tot ce a asfaltat”, ne-au declarat oficiali din Compania de Autostrazi.
♦ Totodata, acestia ne-au spus ca americanii de la Bechtel au incercat sa insele statul roman cu un certificat de conformitate pentru achizitionarea de parapeti ce asigura siguranta circulatiei.
♦ Certificatul de conformitate este din 2004, iar parapetii din documentele prezentate de Bechtel sunt din acest an, motiv pentru care sefii CNADNR au anulat procedura de achizitie.
♦ Pana acum, echipa Bechtel a schimbat in proportie de 60% proiectul autostrazii Transilvania, propus de inginerii romani.

Bechtel este pe muchie de cutit vizavi de un document care poate insemna o tentativa de coruptie din partea companiei americane. In urma cu circa doua saptamani, Compania de Autostrazi a primit vizita unei echipe conduse de Michael Mix, project manager in cadrul Bechtel, care a cerut aprobarea unei achizitii de parapeti pentru autostrada Brasov-Bors. Echipa condusa de oficialul de la Bechtel a depus documentatia pentru achizitia de parapeti de la firma italiana I.ME.VA. „Firma Bechtel a contactat o firma italiana pentru a cumpara parapeti la un pret mai mic. In acea documentatie depusa de Bechtel, o firma franceza care a efectuat testul pentru parapeti a confirmat ca acestia nu sunt corespunzatori si a cerut continuarea testelor. Pentru ca tin de siguranta circulatiei, acesti parapeti trebuie aprobati inclusiv de Compania de Autostrazi. Tot in documentatie s-a descoperit un certificat de conformitate a unui alt tip de parapet din anul 2004. Acest tip de parapet, pe care a vrut sa il achizitioneze compania Bechtel, a fost fabricat in 2008. Certificatul de conformitate este din 2004, cu valabilitate pana in 2009”, ne-au declarat oficiali din cadrul CNADNR. Conducerea Companiei de Autostrazi a trimis o scrisoare conducerii Bechtel prin care a cerut sa fie luate masuri impotriva managerilor. „Nu stim daca Michael Mix va mai ramane in functie. Urmeaza sa avem o intalnire cu Carl Strock, cel care conduce filiala Bechtel din Romania”, ne-au spus oficialii CNADNR.

Asfaltul turnat nu este bun
Dupa ce s-au laudat ca vor da in folosinta 20 km din autostrada Transilvania in acest an, muncitorii de la Bechtel sunt nevoiti sa decoperteze si tronsonul experimental de 100 de metri. „Directia de calitate din cadrul CNADNR a descoperit ca tronsonul experimental pe care a fost turnat si stratul de uzura nu este bun. Asfaltul de pe cei 100 de metri va fi decopertat. De pe cei 9 kilometri pe care a fost turnata numai mixtura asfaltica au fost luate probe si urmeaza sa vedem daca corespund calitativ. S-ar putea sa obligam compania Bechtel sa decoperteze tot ce a asfaltat”, ne-au mai declarat oficialii de la CNADNR.

Imbunatatiri la tot ce s-a lucrat
Echipa de management Bechtel-Enka, formata din aproximativ 50 de oameni, a schimbat in proportie de 60-70% proiectul autostrazii Transilvania, propus de inginerii romani. „Nu exista un metru de autostrada la care sa nu se fi facut imbunatatiri de circa 40 de euro. Proiectul autostrazii Transilvania a fost alcatuit si prezentat de inginerii romani. Din pacate, echipa de management a Bechtel-Enka a mers pe variantele cele mai ieftine si cu o limita de siguranta minimala. Cei de la Bechtel au mers pe minima rezistenta. Astfel, managerii de la Bechtel au adaptat proiectul ieftin la conditiile specifice de teren. Aceasta adaptare este mai scumpa decat proiectul initial”, au precizat oficialii CNADNR.

Ursul pune piedica autostrazii
Sectorul 1 B Fagaras - Sighisoara, din cadrul autostrazii Transilvania, este zona protejata prin programul Natura 2000. „Acordul de mediu pe acest tronson nu a fost primit pe tronsoanele 1 A si 1 C. Pe tronsonul Fagaras - Sighisoara se afla podisul Hartibaciului, unde se afla specii unice in Europa de stejar pufos si sunt anumite zone de imperechere a ursului brun. Mai ramane sa descoperim ca exista si veverita cu trei dinti“, au mai explicat sefii de la CNADNR. Potrivit acestora, autoritatile de mediu trebuie sa pregateasca un studiu de biodiversitate pentru a vedea in ce fel influenteaza constructia autostrazii fiecare specie. „Tronsoul 1 B trebuie inceput in 2010. Studiul de fezabilitate nu a primit avizul de mediu. Si pe DN 7 exista doua zone unde sunt stejari foarte vechi. O sa punem gauri pentru iepuri, pasaje pentru animale mai mari si bariere cu sistem de ultrasunete la nivelul autostrazii, astfel incat traseul autostrazii Brasov-Bors sa nu fie modificat“, au mai explicat reprezentantii CNADNR.

Sursa: http://www.gardianul.ro/Singurii-9-kilometri-din-Autostrada-Bechtel-risca-sa-fie-decopertati-s122611.html

^^ deci e clar ... 2015 dupa cum am mai discutat :lol:

^^

Mda, iar eu cand iau la suturi adunatura is catalogat drept anti-roman, negativist, etc... :ohno:

o adunatura de timpiti.......americanii ne iau pe noi de stupid people.....si noi chiar ca sintem......ai nostrii fura cit pot de pe urma contractelor cu becthel....iar americanii trag pielea de pe statul roman(de pe noi, in final) prin modificari de pret(in sus) si lucrari de proasta calitate.......pisha-m-as pe toti fraierii din politica si guvern care trag sforile si ne mintesc cu televizorul si cu programe de autostrazi care mai de care mai marete ......si realitatea este ca primim un RAHAT .........ca sa-l putem mesteca mai usor......pofta buna romani. SA AUZIM DE BINE!

Autostrăzii Bechtel îi tremură pilonii
Bechtel face presiuni pentru a primi bani pe lucrări de proastă calitate. Pe tronsonul 3C-Bihor al autostrăzii Transilvania, reporterii „Adevărul“ au depistat lucrări care pun în pericol siguranţa traficului rutier. Consultanţii refuză să avizeze lucrările
Compania Naţională pentru Autostrăzi şi Drumuri Naţionale din România (CNADNR) a primit multe rapoarte despre calitatea proastă a lucrărilor, din mai multe surse, dar, până de curând, nu a luat nicio măsură. Surse din CNADNR au declarat că astfle de rapoarte au apărut la scurt timp după ce acestea au început.

Un proiect numit dorinţă

Reporterii „Adevărul“ au fost însoţiţi pe şantiere de specialişti care au semnalat lucrările de mântuială făcute la autostradă. Astfel, s-a observat că, în foarte multe sectoare, constructorul nu a respectat adâncimea săpăturilor impusă de proiect. Nu a fost şi nu este respectat proiectul nici în ceea ce priveşte straturile de balastru – nu se respectă grosimea straturilor şi sorturile (diametrele pietrelor folosite), iar în unele locuri a fost folosit moloz pe post de balastru.

Acest lucru va afecta în mod direct portanţa autostrăzii (capacitatea de a rezista la greutatea vehiculelor) şi va duce, în scurt timp, la apariţia unor denivelări şi rupturi în asfalt. În mai multe cazuri s-a lucrat “după ureche”, fără să se respecte unghiul de forfecare al terenului (unghiul la care terenul începe să alunece).

Urmarea imediată a fost necesitatea unor lucrări de consolidare ale căror costuri au fost suportate tot de CNADNR. Firma constructoare nu a fost mai profesionistă nici când a venit vorba de fixarea suprafeţelor în pantă, situate de o parte şi de alta a autostrăzii, astfel că, datorită minitorentelor create de ploaie, acestea sunt brăzdate de zeci de şanţuri.

Atentat la siguranţa traficului

Situaţia este mult mai gravă când vine vorba de betoane. Foarte multe dintre lucrările din beton armat observate în zona Marghita – Chiribiş – Suplacu de Barcău erau “vopsite” cu dungi groase de material izolant.

Atât muncitorii, cât şi sursele din CNADNR ne-au confirmat că respectivele dungi acopereau fisuri în beton, apărute din cauza neglijenţei constructorului.

Defectele de acest tip micşorează mult durata de viaţă a lucrărilor. Cel mai mare pericol este creat, de departe, de nepăsarea constructorilor care ridică viaductul de la Suplacu de Barcău.

La o primă vedere, uriaşii piloni ai viitorului viaduct impun respect şi siguranţă. După ce discuţi cu unii dintre cei care au asistat la turnarea lor şi cu cei care au citit rapoartele din CNADNR, respectul se risipeşte.

Forajele pentru pilele de sprijin au fost făcute, în multe cazuri, neglijent, iar alte pile au fost turnate aiurea. Platforme pentru “talpa” pilonilor au fost făcute cu beton de proastă calitate sau insuficient. În plus, spun betoniştii români, fierul adus din Turcia de către asociaţii Bechtel, firma Enka, este de foarte slabă calitate.

Viaductul de la Suplacu, pericol public

Ca şi cum toate acestea nu ar fi fost de-ajuns, valea inundabilă pe care o traversează viaductul are pânza freatică aproape de suprafaţă, iarapa are un pronunţat caracter acid.

Proiectul prevedea măsuri de protecţie pentru a asigura rezistenţa pilonilor în faţa coroziunii intense provocată de acest tip de apă. Constructorii au neglijat acest aspect.

În ziua în care reporterii „Adevărul“ au ajuns la şantierul Suplacu de Barcău, muncitorii nu construiau, ci demolau. Gropi foarte adnci fuseseră săpate în jurul a doi dintre pilonii viaductului, deja dărâmaţi pe jumătate. Muncitorii se chinuiau să dărâme stâlpii pe care îi turnaseră fără să respecte proiectul.

Nici cu grinzile gigantice, de 140-160 de tone, executate după o tehnologie proprietate Bechtel, lucrurile nu sunt roz. Aceste grinzi, lungi de cel puţin 40 de metri, vor fi aşezate pe piloni şi vor susţine calea de rulare. Mai mulţi muncitori români din Bihor au relatat pentru un cotidian local că au fost martori la o aberaţie: pentru că muncitorii turci nu au turnat bine betonul la o grindă, parte din fierul armăturii a rămas descoperit, aşa că turcii l-au acoperit cu tencuială.

O asemenea structură nu mai îndeplineşte în niciun fel standardele de rezistenţă, de siguranţă şi de calitate. Din aceste motive, CNADNR a interzis, pentru moment, montarea grinzilor pe piloni, fapt ce i-a supărat rău pe cei de la Bechtel.



Bechtel lucrează politic

“Adevărul” a intrat în posesia unui document incendiar prin care Bechtel invocă o negociere la nivel înalt cu statul român. Americanii cer într-o scrisoare (vezi facsimil) făcută pe un ton ultimativ către CNADNR să renunţe la pretenţiile de calitate.

“RB (Reprezentantul Beneficiarului - firmele de consultanţă JV Scetauroute şi BCEOM, n. red.) trebuie să certifice sumele datorate în mod legitim către antreprenor pentru lucrările executate; Hotărârea RB trebuie să vizeze doar verificarea cantităţilor de lucrări (nu şi a calităţii, n. red.) realizate în conformitate cu Contractul”, cer reprezentanţii Bechtel.

“Pentru a respecta solicitarea de a avansa lucrările pe întregul aliniament al autostrăzii, beneficiarul va anula imediat restricţia privind plasarea de grinzi pe secţiunea 3C (onorând astfel practica din România privind respectarea opiniei unui expert în probleme tehnice, respectiv fisurile în beton)”, se mai spune în document.

CNADNR pune piciorul în prag

Constatările jurnaliştilor au fost confirmate şi de directorul Companiei Naţionale pentru Autostrăzi şi Drumuri Naţionale din România (CNADNR), Dorin Debucean. “Cei de la Bechtel s-au plâns că firmele de consultanţă nu le-au aprobat lucrări de zeci de milioane şi au ameninţat că merg la instanţe”, a spus şeful CNADNR.

“Ce s-a întâmplat la Suplacu de Barcău este simplu de explicat. Trebuia folosit un beton special, hidrologic, care este produs numai la Medgidia. Ei au preferat să cumpere de la Holcim, aşa că lucrarea nu respectă normele. Noi nu putem să acceptăm lucrări care au fost făcute, abandonate şi reluate şi care sunt pline de fisuri”, afirmă Debucean.

September update :cheers:
pictures - http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/photos/1/4/9/2008/Constructie.html
video - http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/videos/2/4/2008/9/604/Autostrada-Transilvania---Asfaltare.html

October Update (38 pictures) http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/photos/1/4/10/2008/Constructie.html

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^^ ^^
Suplacu de Barcǎu Viaduct (1.8km) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suplacu_de_Barc%C4%83u_Viaduct

see also http://www.notez.ro/mapc/transilvania/autostrada_transilvania.html

Descrierea unei autostrăzi începute în 2004: cinci kilometri au fost inauguraţi, 36 erau pregătiţi pentru lucrări de terasament, dar acum terenul a început să alunece peste lucrări.

Ministrul PNL, Ludovic Orban, dă vina pe PSD, adăugând că „... şi constructorul putea sesiza problema“

Autostrada Bechtel a avansat până la kilometrul minus 31
Autostrada Transilvania a ajuns la kilometrul minus 31, contraperformanţă cauzată de greşelile de proiectare şi execuţie ale constructorului – compania americană Bechtel. Este constatarea raportului efectuat de consultantul francez Egis Scetaoroute, însuşit, ieri, public, de beneficiarul CNADNR (Compania Naţională de Autostrăzi şi Drumuri Naţionale din România). De fapt, Bechtel a „turnat” cinci km de autostradă, dar este compromis de alunecări de teren şi crăpări ale taluzurilor un segment de 36 de kilometri al viitoarei căi de rulare ce va lega Braşovul de Vama Borş, segment din tronsonul Câmpia Turzii-Gilău. În opinia ministrului Transporturilor, Ludovic Orban, responsabilitatea pentru problemele apărute cu tronsonul d e 36 de km se împarte între Bechtel şi... PSD. „Indicatorii de execuţie a lucrărilor au fost aprobaţi, de guvernarea PSD, în baza unui studiu de prefezabilitate, realizat de mântuială, în câteva săptămâni. Sigur însă că şi constructorul putea sesiza problemele, stopând execuţia lucrărilor”.

Orban susţine că, deşi nu a discutat cu reprezentanţii Bechtel, e sigur că americanii vor plăti daunele - estimate de conducerea CNADNR la 100 de milioane de euro: „Nu ai ce să discuţi aici. De asta s-a comandat acum circa trei luni evaluarea, ca să se elimine alte posibile cauze ale problemelor apărute acolo şi să evităm să fim daţi în judecată de constructor. Raportul e clar, Bechtel a greşit, deci trebuie să plătească. De fapt, nu le vom face nicio plată, până ce nu aduc lucrările la indicatorii de calitate stabiliţi contractual”. În pofida multitudinii de probleme ivite în execuţia autostrăzii Transilvania, Orban consideră că Bechtel este o companie serioasă: „E firma cu cea mai mare capacitate de producţie. Au unele probleme de management, dar nu se poate afirma că lucrează de mântuială”.

Pe sectorul 2B al autostrăzii, cuprins între Câmpia Turzii şi Gilău şi având o lungime de 52,5 km, se desfăşoară lucrări de terasamente şi structuri pe un segment de 36 de km, cuprins între km 13 şi km 49, unde, conform comunicatului CNADNR, „au fost identificate alunecări şi ravinări pronunţate ale taluzurilor. Cauzele ce au declanşat aceste fenomene sunt: greşeli de proiectare care aparţin Antreprenorului General – Bechtel care are şi calitatea de Proiectant General; ignorarea de către Proiectant a recomandărilor din studiile geotehnice; interpretarea eronată în anumite situaţii a datelor din forajele geologice; greşeli de execuţie. Costurile reparaţiilor vor fi suportate de Antreprenorul General – Bechtel. Valoarea lucrărilor de refacere va fi cunoscută după finalizarea lucrărilor”.

Acum câteva zile, citat de Evenimentul Zilei, Radu Gaşpar, director de proiect în cadrul CNADNR, a estimat costurile tuturor reparaţiilor necesare la autostrada Transilvania la peste 100 de milioane de euro. Pe de altă parte, Gaşpar a precizat că nu doar Bechtel va plăti această sumă: „Condiţiile de teren au fost diferite faţă de estimări. În acest caz, este normal şi firesc să ne asumăm aceste costuri”.

Proiectul de construcţie a autostrăzii Transilvania, pe traseul Braşov-Borş, a început în 2004, în baza unui contract cu o valoare de 2,2 miliarde euro acordat companiei americane Bechtel. Lucrările au fost întrerupte la jumătatea anului 2005, când autorităţile au reanalizat contractul cu Bechtel, încheiat de guvernarea precedentă. Ca urmare a sistării lucrărilor, termenul de finalizare a autostrăzii, stabilit iniţial pentru anul 2012, a fost prelungit cu un an. În 2008, Bechtel trebuia să finalizeze 26 de kilometri de autostradă. Până în prezent, sunt gata cinci kilometri.

După ce, în intervalul 2007-2008, s-au alocat pentru construcţia autostrăzii Transilvania 700 milioane de euro (aproximativ 380 milioane euro în 2008), guvernul Tăriceanu a repartizat, în acelaşi scop, în proiectul de buget pe 2009, alţi 450 milioane euro.

Premierul Călin Popescu Tăriceanu a declarat, săptămâna trecută, că problemele la construcţia autostrăzii Braşov-Borş sunt determinate de incapacitatea companiei Bechtel de a respecta termenele contractuale şi a precizat că firma nu va primi niciun ban în plus fără un certificat de calitate a lucrării.

Reprezentantul Bechtel în România nu a putut fi contactat pentru a ne da punctul de vedere al companiei faţă de aspectele incriminate de raportul Egis. Dar compania americană a cerut, oficial, ca CNADNR „să certifice sumele datorate în mod legitim către antreprenor pentru lucrările executate; Hotărârea Beneficiarului trebuie să vizeze doar verificarea cantităţilor de lucrări”.

Info plus:

Trecutul „glorios” al autostrăzii Transilvania:

* pilonii viaductului din zona Suplacu de Barcău au fost ridicaţi fără respectarea proiectului, fapt pentru care le-a fost afectată rezistenţa; forajele pentru piloni au fost necorespunzătoare, betonul utilizat a fost de proastă calitate;

* în foarte multe sectoare, constructorul nu a respectat adâncimea săpăturilor impusă de proiect, diametrele pietrelor folosite, a folosit moloz pe post de balastru, fiind afectată portanţa autostrăzii;

* s-a lucrat fără respectarea unghiului de forfecare al terenului (unghiul la care terenul începe să alunece);

* nu s-au fixat corespunzător suprafeţele în pantă, acestea fiind deteriorate de ploi;

* au apărut fisuri la lucrările din beton armat, mascate cu dungi groase de material izolant;

* Direcţia de Calitate şi Protecţia Mediului din cadrul CNADNR a stabilit că Bechtel nu a respectat nici reţeta pentru stratul de uzură, fiind necesară o decopertare a autostrăzii pe o lungime de 120 de metri.

americani-s de vina... f*t*-i in gura sa-i f*t! :bash:
(Vama Veche :D)

Orban e ministrul transporturilor ca sa paseze vina in alta parte sau ca sa fie ministru? Doamne ce gandire infantila, toti arunca cu vina unii in altii dar nimeni nu face nimic, contractu cu Bechtel trebuia reziliat de multa vreme.

Ce palma le-as mai da celor responsabili, una mare doar ca sa simta rusinea.

Las ca s-aliaza PNL-eu cu PSD-eu si-s sa faca impreuna vreo 3,000+ de km de autostrada. :bash:

Las ca s-aliaza PNL-eu cu PSD-eu si-s sa faca impreuna vreo 3,000+ de km de autostrada. :bash:

Poate o alianta PNG-PRM :drunk:

O sa faca autostrada cu puscariasii mafiei, dupa ce o sa curete tara de hoti si comunisti :lol:

Orban e ministrul transporturilor ca sa paseze vina in alta parte sau ca sa fie ministru? Doamne ce gandire infantila, toti arunca cu vina unii in altii dar nimeni nu face nimic, contractu cu Bechtel trebuia reziliat de multa vreme.

Ce palma le-as mai da celor responsabili, una mare doar ca sa simta rusinea.

Tocmai ca PSD s-a ingrijit ca Bechtel sa aiba un contract "beton" de are sa nu ne putem debarasa.

Rhemaxos, am o curiozitate. Stiu ca o mare parte a achiziilor de lucrari din bani publici vor trebuie sa fie contractate pe sistemul FIDIC de acum inainte. Care este nivelul de cunoastere a FIDIC-ului in autoritatile contractante la acest moment (si daca este scazut, cum vor solutiona autoritatile contractante aceasta problema? vor angaja consulanti externi?)?

inca in romania exista o reticenta in a angaja romani, experti in FIDIC, pentru ca exista si din acestia, la salarii de 10-20.000 euro pe luna. 'Cum sa platesc un roman cu atatia bani" e reactia majoritatii. In institutiile statului cat de cat a mai crescut cunoasterea FIDIC dar tot nu e unde trebuie. Si faptul ca se va face prin FIDIC, atata vreme cat va exista coruptie tot nu va ajuta la nimic.

^^ Hmm, nu stiam ca sunt atat de mari fee-urile lunare pentru expertiza in FIDIC. Oricum, probabil ca vor scadea in noul context, dar sunt oricum ridicate. Good to know. Thanks. :cheers:

BTW: Si tu ai legatura cu CNADR? :nuts:

In other news:

Mediafax (http://www.mediafax.ro/engleza/romania-might-terminate-bechtel-s-contract-unless-it-fixes-damaged-segment.html?6966;3492339)
14/11/2008



Romania Might Terminate Bechtel’s Contract Unless It Fixes Damaged Segment

Romanian authorities might terminate their contract with U.S. company Bechtel for the Transylvania Motorway if the constructor refuses to pay repair costs at the road segment affected by landslides, Transportation Minister Ludovic Orban said Friday.

“Bechtel has to pay. I doubt they will sue us (the Transportation Ministry – e.n.) for the repairs, because in that case they will be left with the two road segments under construction and a bad image,” Orban said.

The Romanian roads authority CNADNR said last week Bechtel has made several design and execution errors at the Transylvania Motorway, which triggered landslides on a surface of 36 kilometers on the motorway.

Bechtel sidetracked a few times, which hurt the quality of the construction, but the errors can be fixed and there will be no delays, CNADNR said, citing the results of an analysis conducted by consultancy firm EGIS Scetauroute.

Repair costs are estimated at EUR100 million.

However, Bechtel said in a reply that CNADNR sent incomplete information to the media, which contained dramatic accusations.

The American company said design at the Transylvania Motorway was carried out based on a study approved by CNADNR itself and that the regulator’s statements were clearly exaggerated.

Works at the Transylvania Motorway, to link central city of Brasov to western Bors, started in 2004, based on a contract worth EUR2.2 billion attributed to Bechtel.

Works halted mid-2005, when authorities started looking into contracts concluded under the previous government. The highway is due for completion in 2013.

By mid-August, Bechtel managed to finalize five kilometers out of the total 25-kilometer segment of motorway that connects the cities of Gilau and Campia Turzii.

According to the Transportation Ministry, other constructors beside Bechtel might carry out works at the Transylvania Motorway if the European Commission approves the new EU corridor on the North-South axis.

The corridor includes the Romanian motorway and will be financed from EU funds.

“When the European Commission approves the new corridor, probably next year, its route on Romanian territory will become eligible for EU financing. This means that we can bring other constructors apart from Bechtel for the Transylvania Motorway,” Orban said Friday.

I am still confused about these statements...unless they have a contractual possibility to terminate the contract if Bechtel does not fix the damaged sections, and use this as a smart pretext to finally kick Bechtel out, I do not find this anything else than a political stunt.

I would claim at least for the loss of profit and overheads under-recovery if I were Bechtel. There's a pretty bad contract we have there...

And BTW, I'm not the "devil's advocate", but the timely completion of this project is not under the Contractor's sole responsibility.

Edit: I guess I should have posted this on Transylvania...

Yep … so far, the state has “more” guilt … I mean, even though they’re both guilty in their own way, if we talk about contractual duties (as we should do) I'd blame MT first ...

It depends a lot on the damages provisions in the contract...maybe there's a liquidated damages clause which preestablishes the sums each party walks away with when the other party faultly terminates the contract. However, it also depends on how the Transportation Ministry can play out the card of bad works for certain sections of the motorway to terminate the contract...which may, I repeat, may work out as a transfer of the termination fault within Bechtel's playground. I am really curious what will happen. :cheers:

^^ Romanian state will loose big time; "bad works" (whatever it means:nuts:) can be repaired - and that's the only trick our incompetent administration is trying. The Americans know that Romanian state can not comply with existing contractual terms and condition; more over, they’ve already breached many stipulations ... i.e. land expropriation; and they’re aware it can take them another decade or so …
I would complete (discuss a middle solution) this project with Bechtel ... the problem is that none of MT eunuchs have the balls (and money) to take responsibility.

^^ Romanian state will loose big time; "bad works" (whatever it means:nuts:) can be repaired - and that's the only trick our incompetent administration is trying. The Americans know that Romanian state can not comply with existing contractual terms and condition; more over, they’ve already breached many stipulations ... i.e. land expropriation; and they’re aware it can take them another decade or so …
I would complete (discuss a middle solution) this project with Bechtel ... the problem is that none of MT eunuchs have the balls (and money) to take responsibility.

Certainly, nobody's gonna do anything until the next government takes its seats.

And all this discussion about termination of the contract by the Romanian state is really useless, as long as nobody knows what the contract actually says.

The idea is that if European Union is going to invest money in the highway, they will have to start the bidding for the sectors not under construction, because the EU rules doesn't allow contracts to be given directly (as we remember, the method used by PSD to award the contract to Bechtel). So Bechtel will keep the two segments it's building atm, and bid for the rest of them, which is fine, or not bid at all, which is also fine, or they could choose any of the previous options and also start a lawsuit which will make them a pariah in the business, which means they will not gen any contracts in Romania, ever, no matter what. That's the reasoning.

^^Yes, but irrespective of what the EU transport strategies will be, they will not warrant a contract termination for Bechtel, which is entitled now for the whole Transilvania motorway. So, the gov either terminates the contract on various reasons (which we do not know as we do not know the contract), or cuts a deal with Bechtel only for those sections U/C now, or builds another motorway in paralel with the Transilvania one and call it "The Dracula's way". :lol:


BTW: Bechtel is not gonna be a pariah if it chooses to defend its contractual rights. :) The game is very tough for both parties. :cheers:

^^ agree 100% :cheers:

Oh crap, if they involve the EU in the project we'll never see it finished. Imagine...they cancel the agreement next year, then it takes another 2-3 years to select a contractor and another 4-5 to actually build it. Put a change of regime in and some delays with it, add some of the present trouble which will definitely persist (we live in Romania...) and a feasible date will then be 2020.

[QUOTE=Le Clerk;28078684]^^ Hmm, nu stiam ca sunt atat de mari fee-urile lunare pentru expertiza in FIDIC. Oricum, probabil ca vor scadea in noul context, dar sunt oricum ridicate. Good to know. Thanks. :cheers:

BTW: Si tu ai legatura cu CNADR? :nuts:

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nu am, dar lucrez in domeniu.
Un senior engieneer are cam 10-15 mii net euro, asta ca salar. Deci fee-ul platit de catre client poate sa treaca lejer de 20.000 de euro.

Hmmm, sounds nice, very nice. Aproape ca regret ca nu sunt inginer. Eu lucrez de ceva timp cu variantele FIDIC de contracte, dar nu sunt inginer. ;)

I think you guys are forgetting that Bechtel also has obligations (to do things a certain way). If the Romanian state can prove that Bechtel has not delivered on those obligations, we should be able to cancel the contract without any penalties. We may even have cause to sue Bechtel.

^^

right... sue an american corporation... remember Teo Peter? :bash:

^^

right... sue an american corporation... remember Teo Peter? :bash:

it is not even about this.
You really do not understand the connection Bechtel has with each and every american administration. A lot of ex senators and and even vice presidents of USA are part of Bechtel board. They are capable of making a stron lobby not just for this project, but for any project in the world.

If you remember, any time an official from USA was visiting Romania, they were asking the Romanian Goverment and Officials to behave in the relation with Bechtel.

Hmmm, sounds nice, very nice. Aproape ca regret ca nu sunt inginer. Eu lucrez de ceva timp cu variantele FIDIC de contracte, dar nu sunt inginer. ;)
In teorie juristi ar trebui sa se ocupe de contracte, dar in cazul FIDIC, fiind vorba de contracte de constructie, o persoana de spcialitate poate aprecia mai bine riscurile.
Cumva, cei mai avizati in acest sens sunt absolventi britanici de instute de quantity surveyer. Ei au o pregatire mixta, si de consturi, cantitati, juridic, inginerie, si chiar si FIDIC.
Gandeste-te cat de ridicol ar fi sa te duci in romania, la un proaspat absolvent de drept sa-i vorbesti despre FIDIC sau sa-i dai o problema contractuala de FIDIC.

it is not even about this.
You really do not understand the connection Bechtel has with each and every american administration. A lot of ex senators and and even vice presidents of USA are part of Bechtel board. They are capable of making a stron lobby not just for this project, but for any project in the world.

If you remember, any time an official from USA was visiting Romania, they were asking the Romanian Goverment and Officials to behave in the relation with Bechtel.

Bechtel is very well connected with Republicans...not so much with Democrats.

They will be :D

Bechtel is very well connected with Republicans...not so much with Democrats.

they are there for more than 100 years, they are a private company...so I do not thnik it will be a problem for them.

If the work done by Bechtel is proven to be below standard (as defined in the work contract), the Romanian government can take them to court.

Yes, Bechtel is a very large American corporation, with an entire army of lawyers at their disposal, but that does not mean they cannot be sued.

There are many instances where contractors, here in the United States, do shoddy work and municipalities sue them and win.

Bechtel has international projects and they can be sued in international courts. I very much doubt that they can ignore the verdicts that are ruled against them and still hold on to their international business, to say the least.

There are many instances where contractors, here in the United States, do shoddy work and municipalities sue them and win.
Yes, there. But see, this is a "slave" country for U.S.

I doubt if a lousy drunk marine would hit and run, and kill a american rock star, a sleazy lawyer would get him of the hook, cos' sommehow he proved that Teo was not in the car at the time of the accident. :bash:

Even the KGB invented better lies in the 50's for stupid verdicts. That was a spit in our mouth, from american justice to romanian people.

^^ That's because the Ro gov never bothered to hire a US lawyer for Teo's relatives in order to prove that Teo was in that crashed car (they even never adduced the evidence that the Romanian police had to the American court judging the case). That's how the law works. It's not the fault of the US system, it's the fault of the Ro gov who should've assisted Teo's relatives. :bash:

^^

Yes, and OJ did not killed his wife, It's not the fault of the US system, That's how the law works.

I told this before, both USA and Russia make me :puke:

(ai vedea tu daca ai avea scandal intr-un club cu un umflat de ala cu ceafa lata, cum functioneaza justitia americana, adica exact ce ai patit cate un soldat rus cand a facut marlanii mai demult)

^^ That's because the Ro gov never bothered to hire a US lawyer for Teo's relatives in order to prove that Teo was in that crashed car (they even never adduced the evidence that the Romanian police had to the American court judging the case). That's how the law works. It's not the fault of the US system, it's the fault of the Ro gov who should've assisted Teo's relatives. :bash:

Ce dracu' mai are si guvernul cu chestia asta? Au facut ce s-a putut, s-au implicat chiar mai mult decat ar fi normal ca sa se implice un guvern (vrem guvern minimalist insa tot de la guvern asteptam sa ne angajeze avocati, sa ne ridice gunoiul din curte si sa ne stearga la fund, probabil), marlania le apartine americanilor. De la modul in care nu au permis recoltarea probelor de sange de la idiotul ala, pana la modul cum l-au scos din tara si l-au achitat rapid fara macar sa lase posibilitatea unei noi cai de atac, totul a fost un scuipat in fata societatii romanesti, au aratat cat de mult le pasa de parerea noastra. Asta pentru ca, de felul lor, americanii sunt niste idioti.

Dar de ce trebuia sa ne permita americanii sa-i recoltam probe de sange?

Ce dracu' mai are si guvernul cu chestia asta? Au facut ce s-a putut, s-au implicat chiar mai mult decat ar fi normal ca sa se implice un guvern (vrem guvern minimalist insa tot de la guvern asteptam sa ne angajeze avocati, sa ne ridice gunoiul din curte si sa ne stearga la fund, probabil), marlania le apartine americanilor. De la modul in care nu au permis recoltarea probelor de sange de la idiotul ala, pana la modul cum l-au scos din tara si l-au achitat rapid fara macar sa lase posibilitatea unei noi cai de atac, totul a fost un scuipat in fata societatii romanesti, au aratat cat de mult le pasa de parerea noastra. Asta pentru ca, de felul lor, americanii sunt niste idioti.

Stiu ca americanii sunt niste nemernici cateodata, dar din cate am inteles, faptul ca nu au fost trimise probele politiei romane ca Teo era in masina, a fost crucial in decizia instantei amercane. IMO, nu era doar un simplu litigiu, ci o situatie de reprezentare a intereselor unui cetatean roman (si chiar si ale statului roman) fata de/contra intereselor statului american. De asta cred eu ca trebuia sa se implice guvernul sau ministerul de externe.

Dar de ce trebuia sa ne permita americanii sa-i recoltam probe de sange?

Pentru a se vedea daca era sub influenta alcoolului pentru ca a refuzat sa sufle in fiola. Aveam dreptul asta. In mod ilegal, americanul a fost sustras de catre infanteristi marini americani din custodia politiei, apoi urcat in avion si trecut granita.

Stiu ca americanii sunt niste nemernici cateodata, dar din cate am inteles, faptul ca nu au fost trimise probele politiei romane ca Teo era in masina, a fost crucial in decizia instantei amercane. IMO, nu era doar un simplu litigiu, ci o situatie de reprezentare a intereselor unui cetatean roman (si chiar si ale statului roman) fata de/contra intereselor statului american. De asta cred eu ca trebuia sa se implice guvernul sau ministerul de externe.

Nu a fost chiar asa. Nimeni nu a avut timp sa se pregateasca, totul a fost facut in graba in asa fel incat individul sa scape cu o mustrare scrisa, asa cum s-a intamplat. Treaba cu dovada ca Teo Peter era in masina a fost unul dintre argumentele apararii, un artificiu ieftin, pur si simplu ne-au dat peste nas, dandu-ne de inteles ca procesul verbal si probele adunate de politia romana sunt nule si ca daca vrem sa obtinem condamnarea unui cetatean american trebuie sa facem ca ei. Cine are minte sa inteleaga, conform americanilor, din momentul in care trupul lui Teo Peter a fost scos din masina, fara ca proble sa fie adunate dupa tipicul american, cu hartogaria aferenta, condamnarea idiotului care l-a omorat a devenit imposibila.

new pictures with the motorway?
anyone?

http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/index.php/photos%7CdisplayPhoto?ID=1333&IDcat=4&y=2008&m=11&download=1&Name=22_RACOS CHANNEL COMPLETED AND BACKFILL.jpg

http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/index.php/photos%7CdisplayPhoto?ID=1332&IDcat=4&y=2008&m=11&download=1&Name=23_RACOS CHANNEL WORKS 1.jpg

http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/index.php/photos%7CdisplayPhoto?ID=1331&IDcat=4&y=2008&m=11&download=1&Name=23_RACOS CHANNEL WORKS 1.jpg

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http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/index.php/photos%7CdisplayPhoto?ID=1329&IDcat=4&y=2008&m=11&download=1&Name=17_KM 44+506 ABUTMENT A1 FOUNDATION WORKS.jpg

http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/index.php/photos%7CdisplayPhoto?ID=1328&IDcat=4&y=2008&m=11&download=1&Name=15_Surface drainage km 30+000.jpg

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http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/index.php/photos%7CdisplayPhoto?ID=1326&IDcat=4&y=2008&m=11&download=1&Name=13_KM 27+704 FASCIA INSTALLATION COMPLETED.jpg

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http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/index.php/photos%7CdisplayPhoto?ID=1324&IDcat=4&y=2008&m=11&download=1&Name=12_KM 26+230 FASCIA INSTALLATION.jpg

http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/index.php/photos%7CdisplayPhoto?ID=1323&IDcat=4&y=2008&m=11&download=1&Name=11_Road relocation DJ107L-km 20.jpg

http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/index.php/photos%7CdisplayPhoto?ID=1322&IDcat=4&y=2008&m=11&download=1&Name=11_KM 24+417 GENERAL VIEW.jpg

http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/index.php/photos%7CdisplayPhoto?ID=1321&IDcat=4&y=2008&m=11&download=1&Name=10_Retopsoiling km 34+250.jpg

http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/index.php/photos%7CdisplayPhoto?ID=1320&IDcat=4&y=2008&m=11&download=1&Name=9_KM 21+911 DECK SLAB WORKS.jpg

http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/index.php/photos%7CdisplayPhoto?ID=1319&IDcat=4&y=2008&m=11&download=1&Name=8_KM 21+911 U BEAMS INSTALLATION COMPLETED.jpg

http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/index.php/photos%7CdisplayPhoto?ID=1318&IDcat=4&y=2008&m=11&download=1&Name=7_Pipe drainage km 41.jpg

http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/index.php/photos%7CdisplayPhoto?ID=1317&IDcat=4&y=2008&m=11&download=1&Name=6_km 27+360-27+560LHS ATB Installation.JPG

http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/index.php/photos%7CdisplayPhoto?ID=1316&IDcat=4&y=2008&m=11&download=1&Name=5_KM 18+581 PIER P2 LHS AND PIER P3 LHS+RHS.jpg

http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/index.php/photos%7CdisplayPhoto?ID=1315&IDcat=4&y=2008&m=11&download=1&Name=3km 26+430-26+555LHS Gutter concrete installation.JPG

http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/index.php/photos%7CdisplayPhoto?ID=1310&IDcat=4&y=2008&m=11&download=1&Name=2_Fill and cut km 20+960-21+800.jpg

http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/index.php/photos%7CdisplayPhoto?ID=1309&IDcat=4&y=2008&m=11&download=1&Name=1_Backfill A1 viaduct 42+900.jpg

http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/index.php/photos%7CdisplayPhoto?ID=1308&IDcat=4&y=2008&m=11&download=1&Name=Viaduct Suplacu de Barcau-pier cap P39-formwork.jpg

http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/index.php/photos%7CdisplayPhoto?ID=1307&IDcat=4&y=2008&m=11&download=1&Name=Viaduct Suplacu de Barcau-km 7+570.jpg

http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/index.php/photos%7CdisplayPhoto?ID=1306&IDcat=4&y=2008&m=11&download=1&Name=Viaduct km 17+835-formwork installation for pier cap.jpg

http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/index.php/photos%7CdisplayPhoto?ID=1305&IDcat=4&y=2008&m=11&download=1&Name=Viaduct km 16+235-formwork installation for pier cap.jpg

http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/index.php/photos%7CdisplayPhoto?ID=1303&IDcat=4&y=2008&m=11&download=1&Name=Ditch km 21+400.jpg

http://www.autostradatransilvania.ro/index.php/photos%7CdisplayPhoto?ID=1300&IDcat=4&y=2008&m=11&download=1&Name=Backfill km 16+280.jpg

Looking busy which a good sign!
:cheers:

intr-adevar se vad ceva progrese.sper ca vremea in iarna asta sa tina cu constructorii si poate la vara avem si noi tronsonul 2b terminat.

intr-adevar se anunta "progrese" spectaculoase!

Compania Bechtel a anunţat, astăzi, reducerea activităţii la Autostrada Transilvania, reducere care va afecta 2.300 de angajaţi, iar sindicatul susţine că a primit notificare de disponibilizări

detalii aici (http://www.adevarul.ro/rss/articol/bechtel-concediaza-angajati-autostrada-transilvania-in-pericol.html)

offf...sunt si eu carcotas...
acestea sunt pozele oficiale de pe siteul autostrazii....
credeam ca are cineva alte poze.


si da...Bechtel normal ca renunta la oameni pe perioada iernii...
iar in actualul context in care se anunta sute si mii de someri...la vara primavara ii reangajezi mult mai ieftin.

^^^^

Business Standard (http://www.standard.ro/articol_72671/contractul_cu_bechtel_ar_putea_fi_reziliat.html)
11 decembrie 2008


Contractul cu Bechtel ar putea fi reziliat

Contractul cu firma americana Bechtel pentru constructia Autostrazii Transilvania ar putea fi reziliat, dupa o noua analiza impusa de decizia Bechtel de a incetini ritmul lucrarilor, masura ce ar suspenda locurile de munca pentru circa 2.300 de angajati, potrivit Companiei Nationale de Autostrazi si Drumuri Nationale din Romania (CNADNR). Bechtel a anuntat ieri ca lucrarile la Autostrada Transilvania vor fi reduse substantial si ca ar putea renunta la 2.300 dintre angajatii sai, din cauza neplatii de catre Compania de Drumuri a unei sume de 27 milioane de euro, in contul lucrarilor efectuate.

“Decizia companiei Bechtel International ne surprinde cu atat mai mult cu cat antreprenorul are front de lucru. In conditiile date, compania Bechtel International obliga CNADNR sa reanalizeze oportunitatea continuarii relatiei contractuale existente”, se arata in comunicatul dat publicitatii ieri de Compania Nationala de Drumuri. In plus, constructorul american sustine ca reducerea ritmului de lucru se datoreaza si faptului ca *CNADNR nu a asigurat un front de lucru continuu. “Din punctul nostru de vedere, incetinirea ritmului lucrarilor este consecinta circularei CNADNR conform careia, incepand cu data de 15 noiembrie, constructorii au obligatia sa treaca la inchiderea santierelor si la pregatirea lucrarilor in executie pentru conservare pe perioada de iarna”, este pozitia CNADNR.

Potrivit Bechtel, pana in prezent a fost suspendata activitatea catorva sute de salariati, care vor fi plaitit in continuare, pana la data la care muncitorilor li se va solicita reluarea activitatii. “Regretam ca trebuie sa luam aceasta masura, dar nu putem continua lucrarile fara a fi platiti si fara a avea acces liber si fara obstacole la suprafete de teren cu o intindere considerabila, situate una in continuarea celeilalte”, a declarat Michael Mix, directorul de proiect pentru Autostrada Transilvania. Pana la jumatatea lunii august a acestui an, compania a finalizat o portiune de cinci kilometri de autostrada, dintr-un sector cu o lungime de 25 de kilometri, care face legatura intre Gilau si Campia Turzii.

Premierul Calin Popescu Tariceanu s-a declarat, la jumatatea lunii noiembrie, in timpul unei vizite in judetul Cluj, “deranjat” de ritmul in care avanseaza lucrarile la Autostrada Transilvania, afirmand ca nu este dispus ca Guvernul sa asigure finantarea “peste masura in care compania Bechtel este capabila sa predea lucrarile”. “Nu vreau sa platim mai mult decat este necesar si decat Bechtel poate sa faca”, a afirmat Tariceanu. In luna iulie, sindicatul angajatilor la Autostrada Transilvania anunta ca lucrarile ar putea fi intarziate si chiar blocate, in cazul in care statul nu va aloca fondurile prevazute in contract, iar angajatii ar putea parasi proiectul. In replica, Dorin Debucean, directorul general al CNADNR, a afirmat ca Bechtel cheltuise, pana in acel moment, doar jumatate dintre fondurile alocate de stat in acest an, in valoare de 230 milioane de euro. Autostrada Transilvania va avea o lungime de 415 km, pe ruta Brasov-Bors, si va necesita o investitie care se va apropia de sapte-opt miliarde euro, fata de valoarea negociata initial, de doua miliarde euro. Contractul a fost semnat in decembrie 2003, iar in februarie 2006, in urma renegocierii contractului, a fost prelungit termenul de finalizare din decembrie 2012 pentru decembrie 2013.

Were talking about motorways? Hmm...thats not a motorway...




This is:

http://cache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/nkorea_09_17/nkorea11.jpg

North Korea Registered Trademark :rock:

And I thought Cuban motorways are wide pieces of crap.:puke:
http://www.home.versatel.nl/meesroelofs/cuba/1111.jpg

^^ That's a motorway? :lol:

Hell yeah!:rock:

Were talking about motorways? Hmm...thats not a motorway...




This is:

http://cache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/nkorea_09_17/nkorea11.jpg

North Korea Registered Trademark :rock:

Stiti cati km de "autostrada" are NK? Le vor fi foarte utili cand va cadea comunismul si la ei, IMO.

^^

Uite ce zice Wiki despre Coreea de Nord. Mie nu mi se pare ca stau genial de loc. Asta in conditiile in care au o suprafata un pic de tot mai mare decat jumatate din Romania.

Fuel constraints and the near absence of private automobiles have relegated road transportation to a secondary role. The road network was estimated to be around 31,200 km in 1999 up from between 23,000 and 30,000 km in 1990, of which only 1,717 kilometers--7.5 percent--are paved; the rest are of dirt, crushed stone, or gravel, and are poorly maintained. There are three major multilane highways: a 200-kilometer expressway connecting P'yongyang and Wonsan on the east coast, a forty-three-kilometer expressway connecting P'yongyang and its port, Namp'o, and a four-lane 100- kilometer motorway linking P'yongyang and Kaesong. The overwhelming majority of the estimated 264,000 vehicles in use in 1990 were for the military. Rural bus service connects all villages, and cities have bus and tram services. Since 1945/1946, there is Right-hand traffic on roads.

Only 264.000 cars... :( that's sad.

Only 264.000 cars... :( that's sad.
Why?

^^ great question :cheers:

Were talking about motorways? Hmm...thats not a motorway...




This is:

http://cache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/nkorea_09_17/nkorea11.jpg

North Korea Registered Trademark :rock:

So that's how much? 2x4 or 2x5? :eek:

I think 2x4,with an "emercengy lane" for bycicles on the sides :lol:

Btw, what's the widest road we have in Romania? 2x3?

Looks like the average US highway, without cars. :D

soon we will have also motorways like this.....I meani 12 lanes...
But only in the area of interchanges, when, because of the emering and exist traffic lanes you add some more lanes....

the one above seems like a 2X3 + an emerging road and the emergency lane.

Looks like the average US highway, without cars. :D
BULLSHIT!:D
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/7261/800pxinterstate95providzy2.jpg
soon we will have also motorways like this.....I meani 12 lanes...
Ehm... sure, soon.:nuts:

^^ alecu ... iarta-mi indrazneala si spune-ne cinstit (ca un insider adevarat ce esti :)) cand crezi ca se va termina Autostrada Transilvania?! in termeni reali :D

http://www.zaman.ro/ro/detaylar.do?load=detay&link=6427

cititi aici....

e foarte realist interviul....cred ca le-a stat la multi in gat cand a aparut in presa.
o sa scriu si eu...doar ca e ceva mai mult de scris...si cea ce am scris anterior tocmai a disparut cand am dat "submit reply"

BULLSHIT!:D
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/7261/800pxinterstate95providzy2.jpg

Ehm... sure, soon.:nuts:

I also specified that that will be only in the area of big interchanges.
and soon means around 2.5 years.

^^ alecu ... iarta-mi indrazneala si spune-ne cinstit (ca un insider adevarat ce esti :)) cand crezi ca se va termina Autostrada Transilvania?! in termeni reali :D
eu nu mai sunt insider demult, am fost doar primul inginer angajat de ei...si precedenta schimbare de guvern a tari...a dus la pierderea locului de munca...dar fiecare sut in fund te face sa faci un salt inainte.
in fine....eu zic ca cel mai repede va fi gata prin 2015...din diferite motive...
judecati voi cui apartine "vina":
-posibilitatile de financiare ale statului roman, din cauza limitarilor de deficit bugetar, etc. toate guvernele, de orice natura, vor fi interesate de capital electoral si vor avea programe sociale, asa ca ciuciu bani de autostrazi
-limitarile in capacitatea de management a institutiilor statului implicate in constructia autostrazii. Aici ma refer la faptul ca staul e responsabil de punerea la dispozitie a terenului, de devierea utilitatilor, de gasit si pus la dispozitie zone de depozit si gropi de imprumut.
-lipsa personalului calificat in Romania; dupa '89 inginerii CFDP sunt cei care inregistreaza cel mai mare deficit pe piata muncii din Romania...deficit care doar se cumuleaza.
-durata enorma, datorata legislatiei, necesara deschiderii unei balastiere, cariere de piatra, gropi de impumut si zona de depozit...
-lipsa subcontracontractorilor specializati, care inca nu au avut timp sa se formeze.
-toate chestiile de mai sus vor fi acutizate de faptul ca pana prin 2015 anii se va atinge varful constructiei si celorlate autostrazi si chair cai ferate

Prin 2003-2004 stiu discutii ca Bechtel putea sa termine autostrada pana la intrarea in UE, dar romania a spus pas, din cauza deficitului bugetar care nu putea fi suportat si atunci eram si sub supravegherea FMI.

Pentru Bechtel nu stiu care este ritmul optim de lucru, si prin asta inteleg cel mai ieftin...deoarece e clar ca nici foarte incet nu le convine sa lucreze ca au multe costuri fixe...dar nici foarte repede, deoarece banii care ii primesc ei sunt ficsi. (ma refer la preturi unitare).


PS: acum cred ca isi dau seama cei din conducerea guvernului, si CNADNR cat de mult ne doare acest contract. Se cheltuie cam 200-300 miliaone pe an cu acest contract, pe cand, pentru restul programelor de autostrazi cheltuiala e cam la nivelul de maxim 50....In concluzie, cu banii care merg acum la Bechtel, s-ar putea finanta vreo 10 proiecte in paralel de tronsoane mai mici, bypass-uri, etc. Din pacate, MT in loc sa fie cam cel mai mare beneficiar din buget e undeva la mijloc.