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chrisaus
October 11th, 2002, 10:22 AM
im going to get pics tonight
but no were to host them:D :mad:

tayser
October 11th, 2002, 11:33 AM
email them to me

a.taylor@bigpond.net.au

and I'll host them, I'll send an email back with the links

try and make em small-ish (in file size), there's a crapload more Melbourne pics that are gonna be uploaded tonight

cheers

tays

perthsmike
October 11th, 2002, 01:10 PM
woodside is at abt level 19 now right? wens it gonna be finished? seems to be taking an awful long time. damn those union strikes.

mike

Homeroids
October 11th, 2002, 01:13 PM
Yeah level 19. Another 2 or 3 levels and it should break the 100m mark. But slooooooow going on that baby. I guess the size of the floor plates has a lot to do with it too.

perthsmike
October 11th, 2002, 02:20 PM
yeh good point. wat level r they up to wif the glass? is it just the first floor or something. im heading to the city on sunday so i'll try chek it out then.

mike

chrisaus
October 11th, 2002, 03:01 PM
i went to town but didn't end up takeing camera
the building is looking like this
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getting thinner at the top levels

Muse
October 12th, 2002, 01:31 AM
Renderings:

......http://s04.projectcentre.net/projects/2B103/perspective-copy32.gif...http://s04.projectcentre.net/projects/2B103/perspective2.jpg

Being constructed against the Perth Skyline:

http://members.iinet.net.au/~fratello/convention-centre-site2.jpg

BrizzyChris
October 12th, 2002, 03:59 AM
It'll be interesting to see if the glass turns out as green/blue as the renderings depict.

perthsmike
October 12th, 2002, 06:49 AM
heopfully it will. it will probably depend on the amount of sunlight it gets eg. if it is shadowed by QV1 or anything. i think it will look good no matter the colour tho.

mike:)

chrisaus
October 12th, 2002, 07:05 AM
theres already 10m of glass all around the building
the glass looks like a deep blue/green colour

Enchante
October 12th, 2002, 08:17 AM
Originally posted by BrizzyChris
It'll be interesting to see if the glass turns out as green/blue as the renderings depict.

They've started putting it on on the lower levels, it's very blue. Looks nice, although it looks to be a bit darker than the blue in the renderings.

chrisaus
October 12th, 2002, 08:19 AM
it depends on how overcast/sunny it is as to its colour

Homeroids
October 14th, 2002, 12:23 AM
The glass that is there always seems to be in shadow so it may be a few months before we know what it really looks like in the sunlight.

chrisaus
October 14th, 2002, 04:31 AM
http://jjj.image.pbase.com/u17/chrisaus/medium/5773015.1000028_IMG.jpg

DUTCH
October 23rd, 2002, 07:55 AM
FINALLY, one of the lift cores is going up today as i watch.
its been on 19 for around a month, level 20 seems to be almost flat on 100m , .
another 9 to go

PinkFloyd
October 23rd, 2002, 01:42 PM
I saw it on Saturday and the core was on 19. It's starting to look more and more like an office tower with the floor plates are up at about 14/15 i think.

perthsmike
October 23rd, 2002, 02:54 PM
ive never been able to picture this building in the skyline for some reason. :? its so weird. i hear of new proposals of buildings in brisbane, melbourne etc see a rendering and i immediately hav a rough impression of wat it will look like. but ive never been able to do that with woodside. its so weird! and its my home city too which makes it even worse! oh well i guess ill eventually see it... keyword: eventually...

mike

chrisaus
October 23rd, 2002, 03:01 PM
prob cause the skyline hasn't changed for so long

perthsmike
October 23rd, 2002, 03:05 PM
yeh i guess, but still, i cant wait to see the *new* skyline wif woodside in it!

mike

Dilaz89
November 15th, 2002, 11:25 AM
is woodside going to be blocked by future 239 if that goes ahead?
it would look crap if it is.

chrisaus
November 16th, 2002, 02:32 AM
future 239 is much smaller
talking bout future, there was heaps of work happening on the site yesterday

Dilaz89
November 16th, 2002, 03:44 AM
is it still going to begin construction next year or much sooner now?

23knots
November 16th, 2002, 10:01 AM
The glass is a very dark blue. I've taken a good look over the last few days. It's quite a subdued colour. I've seen it both in shade and bright sunlight. I think it'll look a bit like the Citibank building when completed (the glass that is).

From King's Park, it fills in a really big gap in the skyline beautifully. This building will make a huge difference.

I guess there are about 9 levels to go. But not necessarily.....maybe the lift core just shows levels above ground. So there might only be 6-7 to go. I hope not as at the moment Woodside looks too short and fat.

There is a sign on the Milligan St side of the building saying that Stamford Plaza will open in 2004, although site works are not yet in progress. There is a rendering of the Read building too.

Work on the Future 239 site continues on a Saturday so it sounds like they're still taking that seriously.:)

The Pulse building on Murray St has just started demolition/construction, a crane went onto the site while I was staying in my hotel. This is good news as although the apt. building is only 7-8 levels, it may help the 18-level Dunlop House proposal.

23knots
November 18th, 2002, 11:30 AM
That comment by me about Woodside floors is crap. It's 128-ish M, so that's all we need to know. 128 divided by 163 (QV1's height) means that Woodside will be around 79% the height of QV1 - pretty substantial. Homeroids estimated this months ago.

I am just about to move into Panorama (I know one of the owners who can get me a cheap rate, but it's still taking half my salary per month!) I don't care because you have to live a bit while you're alive. If any skyscrapercity fans are over (or if you are already in Perth) let me know as I can get you access to the level 18 pool, bar and gym area!

Maybe we should have a forumer meet-up there when the next big project starts (24 st. geo's, future239 or the icon).:D

perthsmike
November 18th, 2002, 11:34 AM
ill come!!! lol ;) :D

mike

chrisaus
November 18th, 2002, 01:49 PM
how long are you over here for ?

registure you interest for icon at www.capebouvard.com

DUTCH
November 19th, 2002, 12:15 PM
lvl 21 today.
27 days since 20 went up... talk about slow.

23knots
November 19th, 2002, 12:17 PM
Well I've just been hit by a massive transaction which will have me working all hours - I thought Perth was about lifestyle!

The thing about Perth is that if you don't get the reduced hours than there's no point being here - for 1/3 of the salary you can get in Hong Kong, for example, and 47% tax. So I'll have to wait and see what happens.

davo
November 20th, 2002, 12:09 PM
yea same. i cant picture the tower in the skyline either, i hope it will stand out from south perth! do you think they'll launch fire works off it for skyworks????

DaVo:?

DUTCH
November 20th, 2002, 06:38 PM
Heres a high res rendering for you all, looks a LOT nicer like this :)

http://members.iinet.net.au/~erlacher/aight/images/woodsidehighquality.jpg

chrisaus
November 21st, 2002, 05:39 AM
UPDATE
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid39/p50ecaf517f60237895aab1fee718f946/fd095546.jpg

Fabian
November 21st, 2002, 06:35 AM
Chrisaus, please provide with some details.

WÆROM
November 21st, 2002, 07:54 AM
god this building is boring and bland. You seem to be so proud of this building yet would knock it down in an instance if it were being built in brisbane (or anywhere for else in that matter) , it it just me who sees this. The only good thing about the building that it will bring QV1 closer to the rest of the skyline 9and filling in gaps. good to see the skyline changing though. riparian may me ugly, but at least it's tall and stands out and has style, this is short bland and boring. yawn. perth could do much better than this.

chrisaus
November 21st, 2002, 09:05 AM
if this is bland what do you call alot of brisbanes buildings ?

also ive never heard anyone in perth talking up this building, and we can't talk it up, because thats the single only rendering we have ever seen on the tower, and that rendering gives no indication of it presents in the skyline or its true form
its abit hard to give a full judgement of the tower just on some crappy little rendering that doesn't show its true form......

DUTCH
November 21st, 2002, 10:23 AM
To put it simply, get fucked waerom.

This is Perth's largest building in 10 years, its been in planning since 1998, so fuck you if you wont let us Perth skyscraper fans get a little excited about it. As for boring and bland, so its not the greatest ever but you can't call it boring and bland comparing it with riparian, thats hilarious.

perthsmike
November 21st, 2002, 10:31 AM
well sed guys. waerom if u dont like us talking abt it then dont come in here! simple!

mike

Dilaz89
November 21st, 2002, 10:33 AM
go get fucked cause theres nothin wrong with woodside! seriously wat would u rather in ur skyline, a glassy sort of building like that or a piece of siedler concrete like riparian!! \

tayser
November 21st, 2002, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by WÆROM
god this building is boring and bland. You seem to be so proud of this building yet would knock it down in an instance if it were being built in brisbane (or anywhere for else in that matter) , it it just me who sees this. The only good thing about the building that it will bring QV1 closer to the rest of the skyline 9and filling in gaps. good to see the skyline changing though. riparian may me ugly, but at least it's tall and stands out and has style, this is short bland and boring. yawn. perth could do much better than this.

It's no where near as boring and bland as the shit that's already built in Brisbane! take a look at the MLC centre and all the other rubbish that's infested in Brisbane next time you're in the CBD, then get back to us..

moreover, I don't think ANY Australian city would knock that back, it's sheer bulk and REFLECTIVE GLASS (note: something Brisbane & SEQ in general have a SEVERE lack thereof) would just scream for people to look at it and admire its bulk. It's a fantastic building that could fit well in any city, well unless you're a mad balcony fan living in Queensland. GIVE ME A BREAK!

I hope Perth keeps building these massive buildings, as they're a sure as shit way to give bulk to an already impressive and TALL skyline.

Bring ............ it.................on Woodside!

tays

ThePerthVan
November 21st, 2002, 11:59 AM
Woodside lift core is up to level 21!!!!!!!!
The glass is progressing quite rapidly- now up to about level 5 or something. Lookin good!!!!!!

RocStar
November 21st, 2002, 12:27 PM
Look at the pic by DUTCH at street level. It looks awesome cause of its bulkiness

perthsmike
November 21st, 2002, 01:04 PM
i kno aye. that high-res pic is awesome!

mike

Dilaz89
November 21st, 2002, 03:03 PM
btw dutch where did ya get that pic from?:? :bash:

WÆROM
November 21st, 2002, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by perthsmike
heopfully it will. it will probably depend on the amount of sunlight it gets eg. if it is shadowed by QV1 or anything. i think it will look good no matter the colour tho.

mike:)

You seem to think this building "looks good". It looks bland and boring...
Originally posted by tayser


It's no where near as boring and bland as the shit that's already built in Brisbane! take a look at the MLC centre and all the other rubbish that's infested in Brisbane next time you're in the CBD, then get back to us..

moreover, I don't think ANY Australian city would knock that back, it's sheer bulk and REFLECTIVE GLASS (note: something Brisbane & SEQ in general have a SEVERE lack thereof) would just scream for people to look at it and admire its bulk. It's a fantastic building that could fit well in any city, well unless you're a mad balcony fan living in Queensland. GIVE ME A BREAK!

I hope Perth keeps building these massive buildings, as they're a sure as shit way to give bulk to an already impressive and TALL skyline.

Bring ............ it.................on Woodside!

tays

.... and i know alot of Brisbane skyscrapers are bland and boring but you don't see me or anyone else getting excited about them and and saying they look "good".
You praise this tower yet have itchy trigger fingers to shoot down the Westralia Tower whic could have been the best thing to happen to Perth, That's what i find strange. i know Woodside wouldn't be the tallest like Westralia would have been (so it would have had more of an impact on the eye) but Woodside is still in a very visable spot from many angles so it has the same visual impact on the skyline as Westralia would have.


Originally posted by perthsmike
well sed guys. waerom if u dont like us talking abt it then dont come in here! simple!

mike

Can't cop what ya dish out , hey. Telling me to getout of the forum when i voice my opinion but it's ok for you to bitch about Brisbane. Typical hypocrits

Dilaz89
November 21st, 2002, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by WÆROM


You seem to think this building "looks good". It looks bland and boring and i know alot of Brisbane skyscrapers are bland and boring but you don't see me or anyone else getting excited about them and and saying they look "good".
You praise this tower yet have itchy trigger fingers to shoot down the Westralia Tower whic could have been the best thing to happen to Perth, That's what i find strange. i know Woodside wouldn't be the tallest like Westralia would have been (so it would have had more of an impact on the eye) but Woodside is still in a very visable spot from many angles so it has the same visual impact on the skyline as Westarlia would have.




Can't cop what ya dish out , hey. Telling me to getout of the forum when i voice my opinion but it's ok for you to bitch about Brisbane. Typical hypocrits

ITS NOT BLAND, ALTHOUGH ITS NOT THAT TALL ITS NOT BLAND!
also i thing u should change ur sig to brisbane, watch it fuck up instead of brisbane, watch it grow!:D :D :D

perthsmike
November 21st, 2002, 03:21 PM
wat the fuk u tosser. all i said was that i think it will look good. now i dont kno wat u think getting 'excited' but im just happy that finally something big is being built in perth! so if uve got a probably wif that then uve got serious issues.

and excuse me but since wen did i wanna 'shoot' the westralia project down?! i loved it. i wanted it to be built. but it wasn't and thinking about it now thats probably a good thing (in terms of the skyline appearence) but if kerry packer tomorrow goes "i think ill build it" then ill be all for it.

and u brought that last comment on ureself. u come in here whinging and moaning abt saying how its 'bland' (aka brisbanes buildings stlye) and shit. wat do u expect me to do, totally change my veiws saying how crap it really does look? i think not. sorry to disappoint u but i aint no sheep.

up ures u faggot :finger:

mike:)

ps. sorry bout that guys. on to more POSITIVE talk about THE AMAZINGLY GREAT WOODSIDE!!!

WÆROM
November 21st, 2002, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by mdformperth


ITS NOT BLAND, ALTHOUGH ITS NOT THAT TALL ITS NOT BLAND!
also i thing u should change ur sig to brisbane, watch it fuck up instead of brisbane, watch it grow!:D :D :D

Well if Brisbane is fucking up then Perth must be going staright down the gurgler. :D

Dilaz89
November 21st, 2002, 03:33 PM
no dickhead its not down the 'gurgler'. a few years it was, but now development is taking place and it look GOOD! u just got no taste in fine architecture!!

WÆROM
November 21st, 2002, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by perthsmike
wat the fuk u tosser. all i said was that i think it will look good. now i dont kno wat u think getting 'excited' but im just happy that finally something big is being built in perth! so if uve got a probably wif that then uve got serious issues.

and excuse me but since wen did i wanna 'shoot' the westralia project down?! i loved it. i wanted it to be built. but it wasn't and thinking about it now thats probably a good thing (in terms of the skyline appearence) but if kerry packer tomorrow goes "i think ill build it" then ill be all for it.

and u brought that last comment on ureself. u come in here whinging and moaning abt saying how its 'bland' (aka brisbanes buildings stlye) and shit. wat do u expect me to do, totally change my veiws saying how crap it really does look? i think not. sorry to disappoint u but i aint no sheep.

up ures u faggot :finger:

mike:)

ps. sorry bout that guys. on to more POSITIVE talk about THE AMAZINGLY GREAT WOODSIDE!!!

Calm down little girl, there's no need to chuck a :bleep: , just because i don't like the overall apperance of it and the fact i state the obvious about the perth forumers double standards.

You must be the one with issues to go completley off the rails with a comment i make. Woodside will be good for Perth because it's a skyline "gap filler" but the building on it's own is , tacky looking (this was the word i was looking to use before when i said bland). It belongs on the Gold Coast this building. Riparian may ruin Brisbanes skyline but this will ruin Perth's. i'm not bagging Perth, I'm bagging WOODSIDE.

Future 239, now there is a building with some CLASS, STYLE and ORIGINALITY. it may be shorter (not by much thouigh) than Woodside but it SHITS all over it.
FUCK WOODSIDE.......... GO FUTURE 239 !!!!

chrisaus
November 21st, 2002, 04:15 PM
blah blah blah
are all of you on something ?
:cheers:

RocStar
November 21st, 2002, 05:28 PM
:D

Fabian
November 21st, 2002, 10:11 PM
Originally posted by WÆROM
god this building is boring and bland. You seem to be so proud of this building yet would knock it down in an instance if it were being built in brisbane (or anywhere for else in that matter) , it it just me who sees this. The only good thing about the building that it will bring QV1 closer to the rest of the skyline 9and filling in gaps. good to see the skyline changing though. riparian may me ugly, but at least it's tall and stands out and has style, this is short bland and boring. yawn. perth could do much better than this.

Fully disagree with this statement. Boring and Bland... Just look at the designs of buildings from the 1960's and 70's. Compare Woodside to those buildings. Which buildings are really boring and bland then. Also the colours of the cladding on Woodside are great. Makes the building more impressive and stands out even further.

NZer
November 22nd, 2002, 06:11 AM
I have been waiting SOOOOO long to see a proper rendering of Woodside.Much impressed I be.Perth hasn't had much of this for about 10 years but I think everythings gonna be just fine from now on :angel1:

chrisaus
November 22nd, 2002, 06:56 AM
future 239 is certainly a very interesting tower
but the floor plates are way to big, its going to suck up so much demand, we could have got a 200m+ tower out of the space it has

Dilaz89
November 22nd, 2002, 10:06 AM
i agree whith chris. is a bit on the 'fat' side

JayT
November 22nd, 2002, 10:28 AM
Wow Perth people are as bad as Melbourne people when it comes to getting upset about a little Criticism.

Man if we went berserk every time someone like Chrisaus commented negatively about Brisbane's buildings or Riparian or something like that we would always be on fire.

Lucky Brisbane people are cool :cool: and don't have chips on their shoulders isn't it!

BTW, there is something wrong with the building, its not bland but I hate the concrete parts that come out. The glass is OK but for a large mid-rise building of this type it could have been better.

Sorry I don't like it either, its not because its in Perth its just because its "uncomfortable" some how. I can't put my finger on it but I don't like it much. Perhaps its too fat - mabee thats it. The glass is nice but the concrete square sections on the left are wrong somehow - they would look better if they were on every floor of that section or not there at all.
http://members.iinet.net.au/~erlacher/aight/images/woodsidehighquality.jpg
JayT

DamienK
November 22nd, 2002, 10:49 AM
I'm glad that it's being built, and I like the glass, but it is rather chunky and squat looking. . .

perthsmike
November 22nd, 2002, 10:54 AM
brisbane ppl, cool? BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! i dont think so.... perhaps u meant to say that they think they r cool.... :rock: :|

mike

chrisaus
November 22nd, 2002, 11:08 AM
haha jayt you can't talk you the biggest cry baby on the forum and your over 30:D

davo
November 22nd, 2002, 05:18 PM
:)

DUTCH
November 22nd, 2002, 05:31 PM
Oh and its 66,000sq.m.
46k of that is office space.
Same floor space as central park/QV1, could have been huge.


JayT there is a big difference between your criticism and waeroms.
His was unconstructive and clearly argumentative unlike yours.

Dilaz89
November 22nd, 2002, 06:18 PM
why are some queesnslander assholes. sorry i suppose id be an asshole 2 if i had to put up with riparian in my city

chrisaus
November 22nd, 2002, 06:34 PM
do you guys live in the eastern suburbs ?

:D

Vile Tower
November 22nd, 2002, 06:38 PM
@jayt - "concrete square sections on the left are wrong somehow"
i just wanted to point out they aren't concrete they are metallic looking.....

My above point just goes to show you can't judge anything from a rendering!! That's why I think Waerom is a little premature in his judgement - but that being said I don't really give a F@#* whether he likes it or not, doesn't make any difference to my life...

BTW can we not group perth forumers into a collective stereotype it's not one I'd care to be included in......

Oh yeah, and can people get over Riparian!! U might not like it, u might love it, who cares, its being built now - so deal with it - and lets move on with our lives eh?!?!?

WÆROM
November 22nd, 2002, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by DUTCH
Oh and its 66,000sq.m.
46k of that is office space.
Same floor space as central park/QV1, could have been huge.


JayT there is a big difference between your criticism at waeroms.
His was unconstructive and clearly argumentative unlike yours.

I am argumentitive because i'm trying to point out a fact, a fact which is staring you all little fucks in the face. You are HIPOCRITS. This building may have huge floor plates and lots of glass but the design is tacky and boring. thats what i said. You can suagar coat it all you want and call be a fuckhead till ya face goes blue but i don't give a fuck. You are all a bunch of crying cocksucks who can't deal with critisism. i voiced my opinion about the tower and pointed out a obvious fact that this building, if were being built in Brisbane, would be called exactly what i called it. You are the ones who have blown this argument from a hill into a mountain. The fact that it is your home town, Perth's tallest building in ages is giving you a different perspective on the building. You know i'm right and that is what is pissing you off. the point i made about Riparian was the fact that it had a interesting shape (if veiwed from all angles, even if the facade might look shit) where Woodside's shape is a boring "BOX" design (though the glass facade is good) and the roof design at the top is tacky looking. The comparison was made because You always bitch about Riparian and how shit it looks and how it will ruin Brisbane's skyline. I also know that if Woodside were Brisbane building it would be given the same shit and riddicule, i was trying to show you how you have double standards. But your replys made yourself look like a bunch of insecure cunts cause you all know that it does look tacky, cause why the attack. no Brisbane forumer has chucked such a fucked up, immiture, insecure attack like that when being critised, maybe a light hearted swipe at Perth but neverthis. You's need to chill you cockgoblins

:finger:

chrisaus
November 23rd, 2002, 02:42 AM
that concret things at the front looks fucked !!!

Doug
November 23rd, 2002, 03:04 AM
There is nothing wrong with woodside!
Its a nice building,it aint the best thing going around but it aint tacky,I think its rather classy!
We cant have a real idea of what it will look like until it is complete,so what has been said that it is crap is totally wrong!
You cant judge it until it has been completed,thats that!

Wait till its finished,then you can pass judgment on it.

perthsmike
November 23rd, 2002, 04:09 AM
love u too WÆROM :D

mike

DUTCH
November 23rd, 2002, 05:39 AM
waerom are you trying to tell me what I think?
I would think the same of woodside in brisbane or anywhere else.

finn
November 23rd, 2002, 12:47 PM
Hey, Perth can't help it if it has huge resource companies that have established their headquarters there, and require a lot of space.

Because Woodside occupies such a large amount of the tower, of course they want large floorplates, and sure, that does equal a bulky building! Why would you spread your employees over 50 storeys of office space - they would have to keep waiting for lifts just to get to other areas of the company!

Perth is a corporate town, and this is the kind of building you build when you are a major office centre. Brisbane leans a lot more heavily on residential demand to get its towers, and that is why the towers are more slender - people need to live near natural light and ventilation.

Think of the recently constructed office-only Brisbane towers - big fat Queens Square/new BCC HQ, whch I quite like, and that new riverfront 20 storey tower on Eagle St - the one that combines a box with a bit of a curve. Now THAT is a boring and bland and stumpy tower.

WÆROM
November 25th, 2002, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by finn
Hey, Perth can't help it if it has huge resource companies that have established their headquarters there, and require a lot of space.

Because Woodside occupies such a large amount of the tower, of course they want large floorplates, and sure, that does equal a bulky building! Why would you spread your employees over 50 storeys of office space - they would have to keep waiting for lifts just to get to other areas of the company!

Perth is a corporate town, and this is the kind of building you build when you are a major office centre. Brisbane leans a lot more heavily on residential demand to get its towers, and that is why the towers are more slender - people need to live near natural light and ventilation.

Think of the recently constructed office-only Brisbane towers - big fat Queens Square/new BCC HQ, whch I quite like, and that new riverfront 20 storey tower on Eagle St - the one that combines a box with a bit of a curve. Now THAT is a boring and bland and stumpy tower.

200m = stumpy. shit, thats only 20m off Perth's tallest, that must also be "stumpy". may be bland, but has an interesting shape i agree. And if Perth is such a corporate "city" than howcome Brisbane has more office space and office towers than Perth. Brisbane hosts the HQ for some "big" companies"? Brisbane = office towers and residential towers. Perth = office towers. (i'm talking tall ones here)
Yep, Perth must be the centre of business in Australia.
LOL :laugh:

fandango
November 25th, 2002, 03:40 PM
When you subtract the carpark and apartments from riparian you only get 100m of office tower, which ain't that fantastic. I must admit, I do like how everything matches the carpark section.

chrisaus
November 25th, 2002, 03:47 PM
without WA's resources the eastern states wouldn't need any HQ for aussie companies......

finn
November 25th, 2002, 04:19 PM
Originally posted by WÆROM


200m = stumpy. shit, thats only 20m off Perth's tallest, that must also be "stumpy". may be bland, but has an interesting shape i agree. And if Perth is such a corporate "city" than howcome Brisbane has more office space and office towers than Perth. Brisbane hosts the HQ for some "big" companies"? Brisbane = office towers and residential towers. Perth = office towers. (i'm talking tall ones here)
Yep, Perth must be the centre of business in Australia.
LOL :laugh:

Are you talking about Riparian? Where did I mention Riparian? I quite like it!

By stumpy I meant that fugly little 175 Eagle St building that was recently completed on a prime riverfront site. That is bland and boring.

And no point criticising me when you just go and prove my point! You said: "Brisbane = office towers and residential towers. Perth = office towers."

That's what I said! Perth is a corporate city! I never said that Perth had anymore of anything than Brisbane. I was merely pointing out that Perth is currently constructing predominantly office space, while Brisbane is focussing on residential towers at the moment. Do you disagree?

And you said Perth is the business centre of Australia - I never said anything of the sort. ;)

Mickeebee
November 25th, 2002, 05:01 PM
JAYT only says that stuff cause' he knows that redneck Brizzy will never have a bulding as tall as any of Perth's tallest....NEVER!

WÆROM
November 25th, 2002, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by finn


Are you talking about Riparian? Where did I mention Riparian? I quite like it!

By stumpy I meant that fugly little 175 Eagle St building that was recently completed on a prime riverfront site. That is bland and boring.

And no point criticising me when you just go and prove my point! You said: "Brisbane = office towers and residential towers. Perth = office towers."

That's what I said! Perth is a corporate city! I never said that Perth had anymore of anything than Brisbane. I was merely pointing out that Perth is currently constructing predominantly office space, while Brisbane is focussing on residential towers at the moment. Do you disagree?

And you said Perth is the business centre of Australia - I never said anything of the sort. ;)

Ok, sorry, i thought u were talking about Riparian when u mentioned a boxy tower with a curve at the top on eagle street cause riparian alsomatches those descriptions (boxy at bottom and curvey at the top and is on eagle st.) I do agrees that 175 eagle street was a waste of space. i thought u were also having a shot at it being stumpy cause it wasnt as tall as central park. i'm sorry, i misread it.
the way you worded about perth couldn't help being a corporate city and that brisbane skyline relied heavily on residential , i mistook as you saying Perth's towers were mainly office and Brisbane mainly residential.
the part about perth being business capitalf australia was me being a smart arse and throwing in a sarcastic comment. :D

WÆROM
November 25th, 2002, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by Mickeebee
JAYT only says that stuff cause' he knows that redneck Brizzy will never have a bulding as tall as any of Perth's tallest....NEVER!

Maybe you have been living under a rock.......

........... ever heard of "Emerald Tower" ?



It's taller than Perth's tallest, not by much but still taller. :laugh:

Mickeebee
November 25th, 2002, 05:47 PM
yeah..my mistake...i meant to say 'quality'.....which is something brizzies talls are seriously lacking

DUTCH
November 25th, 2002, 05:47 PM
it's taller than 249? and even going ahead?

Mickeebee
November 25th, 2002, 05:50 PM
yeah well...if Waeorm says it's going ahead it must be...he is the one that just 'corrected' my post! or are you actually wrong?

WÆROM
November 25th, 2002, 05:56 PM
Originally posted by DUTCH
it's taller than 249? and even going ahead?

Umm, when did Central Park go under a refubishment and extend itself another 20 something metres? last time i checked it was 226m

DUTCH
November 25th, 2002, 06:06 PM
It's always been 249, only now it's rated to spire as it should be.

Strangely all the local publication i've seen on central park has stated it's 262m, most recently in an article in the paper about the towers' structural engineer.

DamienK
November 25th, 2002, 06:08 PM
On Sat I went and had a look at Woodside, looks to be near or just at 100 m high (at the core). I really like the colour of the glass! The facade reminds me of the blgs at Canary Wharf, somehow. Cladding at the 8th level, frame at 15, core at 21. The tower will have 31 floors including plant rooms, and will be 126.85 m from ground level.

I'll get my pics on here soon. I still haven't found out the height of the spire, so I'll probably ask at blg management after completion.

DamienK
November 25th, 2002, 06:17 PM
262 is the RL height, or height above sea level of the mast. After Sep 11 there was a comparison of the WTC to CP, and they listed it at 224 m. Close enough, I guess. I've seen the official "book" on Central Park at the architects' office, and it seemed to always have a spire on top, even in early renderings.

DUTCH
November 25th, 2002, 06:21 PM
Where did you find 126.85?

It seems to be flat on 100m, it couldn't be any less at the moment and there is still 8+ plant rooms to go?

If at 100 its 21 floors then 31 must be 147 which seems about right.

If it's to be 126 then it cant be more than 85m at the moment, which doesnt work.

DamienK
November 25th, 2002, 06:38 PM
From one of the architects himself! I have the other figures too:

Spire unknown!
Ornamentation 126.85
Plant room 31 120.77
"Main" roof 109.9

And some figures for width. . . 65, 49 and 36.5 m as the building rises.

I've done that with all Perth's 10 tallest buildings (calling up blg management, architects) I know the heights to spire, plantroom, roof or parapet to 1 or 2 decimal places! Where the staircases are! But not memorised! Also copies of blueprints, site plans, sections and articles. I got some good articles from the Architectural Resource Centre in Curtin Uni.

DUTCH
November 25th, 2002, 06:43 PM
nice, keep up the good work.

Ok we are getting screwed. If thats the case, the level numbers do not start from first floor as there is 23 levels of office space, so another 2 +plant rooms+ roof might equal around 126 ..with some fudging.

WÆROM
November 26th, 2002, 04:22 AM
Originally posted by DamienK
262 is the RL height, or height above sea level of the mast. After Sep 11 there was a comparison of the WTC to CP, and they listed it at 224 m . Close enough, I guess. I've seen the official "book" on Central Park at the architects' office, and it seemed to always have a spire on top, even in early renderings.

After Sep 11 did they compare WTC against CP as well? Was it on channel 7 cause channel 7 up here compared WTC to CP1. Fuck it made CP1 looks like a matchstick, hehe. Would have been good if they tried to compare WTC to Bris Central or Mizunno, but in order for that to have happened theywould have had to have been built. god darn it, hehe.

Oh and if CP is 249m to spire than Brisbane wins again cause Riparian is 250m to spire. only by 1m but still taller all the same.

DUTCH
November 26th, 2002, 04:58 AM
Riparian does not have a "spire"


"Oh and if CP is 249m to spire than Brisbane wins again cause Riparian is 250m to spire. only by 1m but still taller all the same."

We can see your motive to post here, clearly your contributions to this thread have been about brisbane "winning", we all noticed it in your first post. grow up.

chrisaus
November 26th, 2002, 06:52 AM
CP is 249m to the spire i think?

NZer
November 26th, 2002, 07:04 AM
Originally posted by Mickeebee
JAYT only says that stuff cause' he knows that redneck Brizzy will never have a bulding as tall as any of Perth's tallest....NEVER!

That's some fine shit stirring!

WÆROM
November 26th, 2002, 09:12 AM
Originally posted by DUTCH
Riparian does not have a "spire"


"Oh and if CP is 249m to spire than Brisbane wins again cause Riparian is 250m to spire. only by 1m but still taller all the same."

We can see your motive to post here, clearly your contributions to this thread have been about brisbane "winning", we all noticed it in your first post. grow up.

I said the thing about Brisbane winning was to get under your skin and irritate the shit out of ya which works all the time, hehe :D Saying that Central Park is 249m (to the spire) is just bogus bullshit that you have sprouted to make CP seem taller. Also mentioning that Brisbane will "NEVER" have a building tall as Perth. Hmm...why would you want to do that unless you wanted to "outdo" Brisbane. Just throwin back at ya what ya dished out

Maybe you and I have seen different renderings of Riparian cause all the ones i have seen have a spire on it.

DUTCH
November 26th, 2002, 11:50 AM
Central park is 249m to the spire.
Have a look outside the ozscrapers forum into rate the worlds top 100, central park is 79. Have a look on skyscrapers.com top 100 , central park is 249m , 81st tallest in the world.

It was not me who said brisbane will never have one taller.
So please do me a favour and pay more attention.

thats about all i can take of this thread.

chrisaus
November 26th, 2002, 01:42 PM
don't include the spire
they suck !

DUTCH
November 26th, 2002, 01:56 PM
With central park you have to include the spire as it's part of the structure much as empire state or petronas, the central park structure is incomplete without the spire.

jason_183
November 27th, 2002, 10:52 AM
OK OK OK...Gentlemen...please!
Me, being from Melbourne feel as though I am somewhat of an impartial moderator between the two sides in this debate, namely Perth vs. Brisbane.

Now, firstly, let's not single out individual structures (i.e. Central Park vs. Riparian Plaza) as a way of determining which city has the best skyscrapers. If this was the case, Perth wins hands down, having currently two structures officially taller than anything Brisbane has ever seen (Central Park 249m, Bankwest 214m, versus the tallest compleated structure in Brisbane, Central Plaza at 174m) And NOBODY will argue with these figures because they would be both childly and wrong.

Let's look at the respective skylines as a whole, with Perth again winning hands down with their magnificently rich, athletic, powerful skyline situated on arguably one of the most picturesque metropolitain rivers in the world. Place this against the mudpit that Brisbane calls a body of water (Again, you will not compare this to the Yarra as this topic is purely Perth vs. Brisbane), and most non-Brisbane residents will humbly concede that my conclusion was obviously correct.

I also wish to address a debate in this topic about Perth being or not being a so-called 'corporate' city. Let me comment on this by saying that Perth has more millionaires per capita than anywhere else in Australia. Perth, seemingly a playground for the rich (Just pick up this years copy of the BRW Rich 200) has many of the world's largest resource corporations establish their world headquarters in that city. And if anyone tries to shoot this fact down by suggesting that this was not a debate on who is the wealthiest out of Perth and Brisbane, then they can forget commenting because I just made it the debate (although it's hardly a 'debate').

Consider this (from the current BRW Rich 200); - Of the richest 25 people in Australia, Perth has 5, Brisbane has zero, (note Perth's five are ; Kerry Stokes (Channel 7, $1.2 Billion), Stan Perron ($800 Million), John Roberts (Multiplex, $800 Million), Ralph Sarich ($650 Million), Len Buckeridge (BGC, $600 Million), compared to the richest person in Qld, Gordon Merchant ($520 Million), who lives on the Goldcoast (not Brisbane). Also, of the top 50 richest in Australia, Perth's total wealth=$5.295 Billion, Brisbane's total wealth=$1.453 Billion (I was generous and included the $520 Million of Gordon Merchant). And then there's Perth's history of producing infamous millionaires e.g. Robert Holmes a Court, Lang Hancock, Alan Bond, Laurie Connell, and the adorable Rose. Brisbane, the fact of life for you is that all you seem to be good at is tourism and growing bananas...face it that your city has no REAL money in it. What an interesting lifestyle you must have...ever considered living down here in Melbourne, or even your superior's Perth? I guess you have but couldn't afford it.

Perth wins.

23knots
November 27th, 2002, 11:01 AM
I heard just today that Central Park could have been much higher. The lift core was going to carry on rising but the decision was made to stop and cap the building off at "51" storeys!

Hmmmm...fact or fiction.

DUTCH
November 27th, 2002, 11:03 AM
hehe what a great read. Nice to see an impartial view point.

I was recently at barrick gold formerly homestake, which is the second largest gold mining company in the world and their only corporate headquarters in Australia is in Perth. Just for a nice little example.

Mickeebee
November 27th, 2002, 12:35 PM
here here Jason 183...I'm with you

perthsmike
November 27th, 2002, 02:21 PM
i like the argument jason 183. totally agree :D

another example is woodside. i hav just been to karratha the last few days and toured around there HUGE liquid gas processing facility. it is absolutely amazing. there are 11 cranes (2 being the biggest in the state) currently working to create a fourth processing 'train'. ive never seen anuthing so bloody massive! (will post pics soon) woodside are huge here...

mike

Vile Tower
November 27th, 2002, 02:45 PM
Who cares!!?!?!?

Woodside has climbed another level, now showing 21 or 22 under the box.......

Can we keep on topic here or what??

jason_183
November 28th, 2002, 05:04 AM
Oh, please note that my argument will not be challenged or attempted to be proven wrong by any person from the offending city (i.e. Brisbane). Let me just cap off what I was discussing by adding that given all the above statistics about the locations of Australia's wealth, it's even more amazing/shocking when you consider that Brisbane's population is almost 200,000 more than Perth's...Now, I'll let you think about that for a while.
Conclusion- Poor effort Brisbane...enjoy the rest of your sad, sorry lives. Hahaha

RocStar
November 28th, 2002, 05:52 AM
the man obviously knows what he is talking about!:D

23knots
November 28th, 2002, 07:32 AM
Woodside has looked visibly taller in the last 2 weeks, it seems as if construction is finally going at some pace. Maybe the builders got a bollocking from Woodside. Apparently Central Park is charging a "revised" (upwards obviously!) rent to Woodside for the extra time its Central Park offices will now be required.

I wish Stamford Plaza would start on that site, there is hardly 1 hotel room left in Perth at the moment because of the Hockey World Cup and cricket. I can vouch for that cos I've been looking for rooms. And when's that 14-storey hotel at Burswood going to start?

PinkFloyd
November 28th, 2002, 10:02 AM
Yeah, I want to know when Burswood is going to announce that development. Apparently the design has been finalised, and is 15 levels with an extra 350 rooms to Burswood. That brings Burswood's total rooms to 800! Not bad. I remember reading that construction was to start in the new year. Probably best to Email them and ask.

chrisaus
November 28th, 2002, 10:54 AM
i emailed them about 2-3 months ago and they said they were about to secure a deal
www.burswood.com.au

how good will burswood be in 10 years
with 7 towers at burswood lakes
2 towers at burswood resort
and the new balnemeum appartments close by

thats 10 towers over 10 levels

finn
November 28th, 2002, 12:34 PM
I've got a friend coming to stay from Perth in a few weeks, and she has just graduated from an Electrical Engineering/Commerce degree at UWA with honours!

She has already got a job starting next year with Woodside, and will be working up in Karratha for a couple of years. Hopefully she'll be in the Woodside tower in Perth (if its finished! ;)), and I'll get a tour on a holiday over there. ;)

Doug
November 30th, 2002, 06:28 AM
Took this one this morning.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid40/p8cbdda047e80d2615cb34a60cbce89a0/fcfdb390.jpghttp://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid40/pbd206237163bc7ebaed01d3ccd44c4fa/fcfdb38d.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid40/p8cbdda047e80d2615cb34a60cbce89a0/fcfdb390.jpg.orig.jpg

Dilaz89
November 30th, 2002, 01:21 PM
went past it 4 the first time in 2 weeks. its looks huge and has a bit of a impact on the skyline

perthsmike
December 1st, 2002, 04:53 AM
i went past last nite. i like it how the cranes are light up and all. at nitgh from a way bak and if you didn't kno it was under construction you would think its a built building with a special roof feature.

mike

RocStar
December 1st, 2002, 08:14 AM
Yeah the cranes do look good lit up:laugh:

Dilaz89
December 1st, 2002, 09:28 AM
i went past on sat night and the cranes do look really good and they were moving. first time iv seen woodside at night close up.

Dilaz89
December 1st, 2002, 09:31 AM
also it looks like its only 2 floors under the forrest centre and gov stirling:D im going to get sum pics on wed too;)

Fabian
December 1st, 2002, 09:12 PM
I admit, I can barely tell the changes in the tower, due to it's slow progress. I can't even notice the changes in the last photos.

Muse
December 1st, 2002, 09:42 PM
6 pages, 4 renderings (3 the same), only 4 construction pics and a lot of blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

C'mon people!

chrisaus
December 2nd, 2002, 02:52 AM
you can definitly see the glass facade and the floors changing significantly over times, its just the core.....

WÆROM
December 2nd, 2002, 05:42 AM
was there a date given when it would be completed by?

WorldTowerWorker
December 2nd, 2002, 06:46 AM
Hey Guys any one know the heights and stats of this building by the way who is developing it?????

DamienK
December 2nd, 2002, 09:06 AM
I have all the stats, but I'll recite the height figures off the top of my head:
127 m to the top of ornamentation, 121 m to top of plant room, 110 m to top of main roof.

I asked a construction worker once about the height of the building, he had no idea (only floor numbers), but it should be done by late 2003.

Last week I went to the site and walked around snapping shots from different angles, and I'm sending them to a friend to get them hosted, then I'll post them here.

WÆROM
December 2nd, 2002, 10:00 AM
maybe the reason why it's taking so long is becuase it's been so long since Perth made a scraper that they kinda forgot how to build one, LOL :laugh:

chrisaus
December 2nd, 2002, 11:17 AM
haha:D

DamienK
December 3rd, 2002, 01:29 PM
Here are the pics I took, late last month:

http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/pubimage.asp?id_=1115100

http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/pubimage.asp?id_=1115101

http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/pubimage.aspid_=1115102

http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/pubimage.asp?id_=1115103

perthsmike
December 3rd, 2002, 01:45 PM
great pic damien! that glas is gonna make it look so good.

mike

Dilaz89
December 3rd, 2002, 01:52 PM
the real thing looks heaps different to renderings

WÆROM
December 3rd, 2002, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by mdformperth
the real thing looks heaps different to renderings

Yeah, the glass facade looks totally different, looks alot darker than the renderings. Looks navy blue where as the renderings made it look aqua.

RocStar
December 3rd, 2002, 04:00 PM
It does look 100 times better than the render pic...which means the roof will look hot ASS!:D

WÆROM
December 3rd, 2002, 04:42 PM
Yeah, i must say i like the darker glass better. The rendering made the building look impressive cause it was bulky but the design and colours and everything made it look shit. The render looked tacky, since it's already differing from the render in a major way, i might end up liking it in the end.

perthsmike
December 4th, 2002, 10:57 AM
omg its a miracle! finally he comes to his senses.... :D

mike

Dilaz89
December 4th, 2002, 01:29 PM
i got sum pics 2day but no where to host them

chrisaus
December 4th, 2002, 02:01 PM
www.imagestation.com

WÆROM
December 4th, 2002, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by perthsmike
omg its a miracle! finally he comes to his senses.... :D

mike

yeah, well i can't finally say till i've seen the final thing...hehe ;)

I didn't like Woodside cause i didn't like the rendering. The rendering had aqua glass with white colomns and a white shitty thing on the roof. But i remember someone posting in this thread that the white sections in the render will actually turn up silver. So by looking at these latest construction shots and seeing that the aqua glass is in actually a dark navy blue in reality and taking into mind that the white sections of the render may in fact turn out silver in the end, the tower might turn out good. i still don't like the shape but i have to admit, it's a big fucking bulky tower.

If the way i'm picturing the finished product in my mind at the moment, Woodside may kick arse in the end...who knows?...hehe

Fabian
December 4th, 2002, 09:53 PM
The cladding look impressive at present. Like the green and blue.

perthsmike
December 5th, 2002, 12:14 PM
i was at parliament house today for lunch and the view of woodside from there (the carpark) was great! i could see the glass sheets being placed in and all. there was this worker like hanging off the side directing the glass panel in. i would shit myself doing that!! 10 odd storeys up sheesh! :)

mike

Dilaz89
December 5th, 2002, 12:19 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by chrisaus
www.imagestation.com [
chris, can i just send them 2 you cause i dont no how to post pics on here:? :?

DUTCH
December 6th, 2002, 10:07 AM
23 went up today. its now the same height in the skyline as forrest centre/governor stirling .

:)

chrisaus
December 6th, 2002, 10:41 AM
grrr
howcome it can grow 1 level in a day
then do nothing for 3 months
hehe

PFinMelbourne
December 6th, 2002, 12:11 PM
I'm sure its been taller than the Forrest Center/Governer Stirling for a while now (since level 20)? Maybe I'm wrong, but they are tall floors none the less.

perthsmike
December 6th, 2002, 12:15 PM
if this baby's to be finished for august 2003, wont the lift core top out soon?

mike

DUTCH
December 6th, 2002, 12:58 PM
yeah they are huge, if its 110M now and 23 floors they are 4.78M.

perthguy78
December 8th, 2002, 01:48 PM
I didnt realize that the woodside building was orginally planned for the Bishops See site where Future 239 is being built...
here is the project plan from the architects.. :)

http://www.buchan.com.au/Projects/pdf/Woodside.pdf

chrisaus
December 8th, 2002, 01:53 PM
i think im sick of woodside now....
this not talk bout it till 2003:D

RocStar
December 8th, 2002, 04:05 PM
Originally posted by chrisaus
i think im sick of woodside now....
this not talk bout it till 2003:D
Yeah...maybe if it wasn't moving at a snail's pace!!....But we need something bigger and taller like ICON to talk about:D
its taking forever in a day for a render pic:bleep:

perthguy78
December 8th, 2002, 04:32 PM
any news on future 239?

RocStar
December 8th, 2002, 04:42 PM
They are still working on the site...still no official word...i really do hope they go the full monty on this one...it looks to good in design for it to be canned even though it's not tall

Dilaz89
December 9th, 2002, 02:09 PM
i think that 239 will be a real head turner for tourists and ppl coming into the city from kwinana fwy cause of its size

perthguy78
December 9th, 2002, 04:01 PM
are the floor plates gonna be very big? what is teh floor plates compared to woodside?

chrisaus
December 9th, 2002, 04:14 PM
even after the floor plates were cut down, its still going to be fucken big plates !!!

perthguy78
December 10th, 2002, 07:34 AM
woodside is 46500 m2
future 239 --- size of the floor plates has been reduced from 3,200sqm to 2,700sqm.
This will reduce the capacity of the building from about 47,000sqm to 35,000sqm

to compare qv1 is 60,000 sq m
CP is 66,500 sq m

i think future 239 will be good especially since it is on stilts.

23knots
December 13th, 2002, 01:03 PM
I was driving into the city at dusk tonight and Woodside looks FANTASTIC! The glass is very reflective, dark blue and classy and I love the silver cladding which emphasises the frame. This is going to be one of the best lookers in Perth. Let's hope it goes all the way up to an indicated 29 (plus plant rooms).

Future239 will still not go ahead until a tenant is found. The pre-commitment estimate I got today was 30%......here's hoping that figure goes down. It's a shame that QV1 is proving so popular with tenants right now.

PFinMelbourne
December 14th, 2002, 12:39 AM
Last time I read QV1 and Central Park were fall. I think one of the developers of Perth's proposed office tower should bite the bullet and just go. It will fill very quickly if they do (net absorb of around 25,000sqm a year in the CBD.)

PFinMelbourne
December 14th, 2002, 12:40 AM
Also, is anyone going to get some resent pics of Woodside and post'em. I'm dying to see how she's going!

chrisaus
December 15th, 2002, 12:20 PM
woodside sunday 15th december
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid42/pf2d14f3b21c54a395a69bf1af35cf50f/fcee9489.jpg.orig.jpg

davo
December 16th, 2002, 04:10 PM
I WENT INTO THE CITY TODAY...WOODSIDE IS COMING ALONG PRETTY NICELY....I LOVE IT...WOODSIDE=CHUNKY
DAVO

davo
December 18th, 2002, 03:50 PM
hopefully this hasnt been asked before but is woodside gonna have any special lighting??? or sum special shit? if anyone knows????

vapours
December 18th, 2002, 06:15 PM
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<tr><td align=left valign=top>hopefully this hasnt been asked before but is woodside gonna have any special lighting??? or sum special shit? if anyone knows????</td></tr>
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hopefully its not blue lighting like every other building in perth

DUTCH
December 18th, 2002, 06:40 PM
i love the blue lighting, more of it i say :)

oh and for the record the cores are at 24 & 23, floors at 17.

chrisaus
December 19th, 2002, 03:12 AM
i emailed the project team and they said it could include some facade lighting....

RocStar
December 19th, 2002, 06:13 AM
I hope the lighting includes the roof..would look "SpeCial"
:D

davo
December 19th, 2002, 08:13 AM
god i really cant even picture what the roof will even look like.
to be honest i cant even picture what the north and south sides will look like.....
davo

RocStar
December 19th, 2002, 07:37 PM
yeah i know...Such a crappy render pic.....the ONLY one around!!!
i'll give someone $100 if they can find a better render pic:D

http://home.iprimus.com.au/roc1/woodside tower.jpg
ERRRR!

perthguy78
December 20th, 2002, 09:29 AM
when is teh core gonna top out.. should be within a cple of months...

DUTCH
December 20th, 2002, 09:34 AM
more than that at the rate it's going.
Its at 24 and there is 29 or 31 inc. plant rooms.

perthguy78
December 20th, 2002, 09:41 AM
when are they gonna start building the stamford hotel next to woodside??
the basement is done but there hasnt been any action there for ages

davo
December 21st, 2002, 08:19 AM
hope they start it soon. theres a fair bit of construction going on or startnig in perth right now, lets just hope it stays like that.AY!
:bleep: woodside is coming on pretty slow compare to "world tower" not fair... Y are we so slow.LOL!
Davo:?

Dilaz89
December 22nd, 2002, 12:56 PM
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<tr><td align=left valign=top>hope they start it soon. theres a fair bit of construction going on or startnig in perth right now, lets just hope it stays like that.AY!
:bleep: woodside is coming on pretty slow compare to "world tower" not fair... Y are we so slow.LOL!
Davo:?</td></tr>
</table>
probably because its benn over 10 years since weve had a new 100m+ building. the construction company probably forgotten how to do it
:D

chrisaus
December 22nd, 2002, 01:55 PM
stanford plaza was canned about 1 year back

though they were looking at a mixed used development with appartments/hotel
also theres a billboard up and the website says coming in 2004

Vile Tower
December 22nd, 2002, 02:19 PM
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though they were looking at a mixed used development with appartments/hotel
also theres a billboard up and the website says coming in 2004</td></tr>
</table>

at least they are building that low rise on the corner of milligan + hay don't know what its called but it looks great!! ;)

chrisaus
December 22nd, 2002, 02:35 PM
read building....

perthguy78
December 22nd, 2002, 06:34 PM
yeah the billbaord still says its going there and their website also says there is one opening in perth in 2004.

davo
December 23rd, 2002, 03:30 PM
o KewL...i cant wait till the exhibition and convention centre is finished...it will look fukinDADA!!! cant wait.
DavO

chrisaus
December 23rd, 2002, 04:42 PM
if you wana see a great view of PCEC
go off mitchell fwy onto riverside drive
you go 5m from the construction site

davo
December 24th, 2002, 12:00 PM
Kewl thanx for that...
davo

Vile Tower
January 14th, 2003, 06:06 AM
Showing level 24 on Both sidez, with 25 under the core box, only another 4(??) core rises left!! Hard to believe woodsides core would ever top out but its happening :soon:
Floor plates at about lv 19 last I checked - looking at it now you can kinda imagine how it will look - a little short fatty!! :okay:

PinkFloyd
January 14th, 2003, 07:56 AM
Yeah I saw it on Saturday, with the core at 25 on one side. It's really taking shape. August this year is the completion date, and it certianly looks that way.

PinkFloyd
January 14th, 2003, 08:00 AM
Just a question, does anyone know if/when the core on the western side will stop, or will it go to the top. Usually one lift core makes it to the top, the rest stopping at different intervals.

DUTCH
January 15th, 2003, 12:39 PM
26 today :)
seems above 120m now.

i think these two will be the same height.
but 4 lift cores, bit over the top!

chrisaus
January 15th, 2003, 01:38 PM
hmm don't you get bored of watching every floor go up....
i got over woodside last year !!
im sick of it:rant:

DUTCH
January 15th, 2003, 02:20 PM
ummm...so congratulations on having a short attention span ?

ThePerthVan
January 15th, 2003, 02:44 PM
Woodside...is...not...boring. It keeps me interested in going to school.

chrisaus
January 15th, 2003, 02:56 PM
yeah watching a concrete box going no were
WOO HOO
ive got a pretty bad feeling woodside going to turn out shite cakes, though i guess any addition to perth perth skyline is a wanted/needed one

PinkFloyd
January 16th, 2003, 04:56 AM
Chris what are you saying!!! So far Woodside looks very promising. The glass looks great and fingures crossed it will be lit up all blue.

Steve World Tower
January 16th, 2003, 05:23 AM
Woodside is going to look EXCELLENT. Why on earth aren't more architects in this country going for this glassy look ? If you look in America you see heaps of buildings together that are all glass and it looks excellent because they reflect the sky and lights and they shimmer and blend in with the elements.

ThePerthVan
January 16th, 2003, 12:28 PM
Woodside looks absamolutely fabumalistic! How can it be puit down? The blue glass looks promising.

chrisaus
January 16th, 2003, 12:34 PM
look at my must see perth pics thread in city issues it has about 10 pics of woodside taken today, also look at perth from the swan it has pics form my river cruise today with some pics of suburban condos
i got them all from my river cruise today, it was brilliant i highly urge you go for some amazing views !!

Steve World Tower
January 17th, 2003, 02:57 AM
chrisaus

Where abouts is city issues thread ?

ThePerthVan
January 17th, 2003, 03:07 AM
Got to "F

ThePerthVan
January 17th, 2003, 03:08 AM
Go to "Forum Jump" (just below this thread) and in the menu you will see City Issues.

Steve World Tower
January 17th, 2003, 03:37 AM
Cheers Perth Van

Dilaz89
January 20th, 2003, 04:09 AM
went past it today, ONLY 3 MORE LEVELS TO GO!!!!
any news on 239 anyone?

ThePerthVan
January 20th, 2003, 11:23 AM
4 more levels. It goes to 29.

chrisaus
January 20th, 2003, 11:49 AM
this thread really shows how long its been since perths seen some construction ie.. watching the building floor by floor:D
anyway the 29 level could include the basement levels so it could be toped out now

Homeroids
January 20th, 2003, 12:20 PM
The core 'might' have topped out but also remember, there is the ornamental spire to be added. Sometimes I wonder if that official height we got is correct????

chrisaus
January 20th, 2003, 02:09 PM
there is a kind of a hat like thing on top
damien k contacted the architechs and they said 127m i think

davo
January 20th, 2003, 03:20 PM
yay i cant wait....i cant sorta picture wat it will be like now.:)

perthguy78
January 20th, 2003, 05:18 PM
just look at the pics chris took last week... they show u what it is like...

it is up to 26 under core box now... the glass looks good.. halfway up now.

chrisaus
January 20th, 2003, 05:37 PM
for a good view go up the 10 level wilson carpark on hay street next do the box building, its set back from the street down an alley...

vapours
January 21st, 2003, 04:18 PM
Some more photos taken on my drive to work on 21/1/03

http://members.iinet.net.au/~hedaik/city/wood4.jpg
http://members.iinet.net.au/~hedaik/city/wood3.jpg
http://members.iinet.net.au/~hedaik/city/wood2.jpg
http://members.iinet.net.au/~hedaik/city/wood1.jpg

perthguy78
January 21st, 2003, 05:05 PM
nice!!!!!!!!!..
another core rise :) only 2 more to go :D i hope it doesnt end up looking short and fat :(

that telstra building is damn ugly...

RocStar
January 21st, 2003, 06:09 PM
Great shots!...well done vapours.
The colors look nothing like the render pic..looks way better! also the 3rd pic, you can see the work on 239 and also the conversion on the corner of Milligan and Hay..heaps of construction going on there:cool:

DUTCH
January 21st, 2003, 06:15 PM
nice shots. > i hope your the passenger :)

There are some differences showing up between it and the render.

CULWULLA
January 21st, 2003, 11:43 PM
wow! finally photos of Woodside we can actually see!!! its coming along well! massive complex!
thanks!
;)

perthsmike
January 22nd, 2003, 01:06 AM
great shot vapours! wow the third pic looks so good. great job! :D

mike

BrizzyChris
January 22nd, 2003, 02:38 AM
<table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox">
<td align=left valign=center> <smallfont> <b>Quote</B> <I>originally posted by CULWULLA </i></b> </smallfont> </td>
<tr><td align=left valign=top>wow! finally photos of Woodside we can actually see!!! its coming along well! massive complex!
thanks!
;)</td></tr>
</table>
rofl, I was about to say the same thing. It looks excellent.

davo
January 23rd, 2003, 02:07 PM
Awww its going to look cute!

Homeroids
January 24th, 2003, 02:01 AM
Can they leave the cranes on top after it's finished so that it is taller than QV1?

davo
January 24th, 2003, 04:04 PM
Hmmm...i wanna know wat the lobby will look like!
i hope it looks really retro!!!

tayser
January 24th, 2003, 04:12 PM
looking superbly schmick :D

now build three more Perth!

at a boy.

tays

Gester
January 24th, 2003, 04:25 PM
Why 3? It could build 4 ;)

perthguy78
January 24th, 2003, 04:50 PM
they seem to have missed a level on woodside.. they painted level 25 on today but its actually on floor 26.. so maybe it will be a bit higher then i thought :) a few meters higher anyways hehe :)

DUTCH
January 24th, 2003, 06:40 PM
both cores are at 27...25 is taller than the other levels.. ?? why.

ThePerthVan
January 27th, 2003, 05:05 AM
yEAH- WEIRD. I got scared thinkiung it was only going to be 25 levels when there was no painted numero.

davo
January 27th, 2003, 05:06 PM
omg send pics. im to poor to catch a bus to tha city.lol

Homeroids
January 28th, 2003, 05:52 AM
Woodside is at least 10m's higher than the Forrest Centre already and I think that is 110m's. If Woodside's core does get to level 29, there is just NO way Woodside can be 127.5m when complete. Remember, there is the roof and the decorative extension to go on as well. Even if Level 27 is the core top out, I can't see Woodside being only 127m's high. This is weird,

DUTCH
January 28th, 2003, 07:22 AM
Yes i realised that along time ago in this thread, it's already easily above 120m. hmm

PinkFloyd
January 28th, 2003, 11:18 AM
Yeah, I agree. From the Freeway Woodside is even looking similar in height to AMP (I do know that Woodside is elevated slightly due topography).

RocStar
January 28th, 2003, 05:05 PM
opps!...said the guy who paints the numbers:D

chrisaus
January 28th, 2003, 05:40 PM
http://projectcentre.net/PROJECTS/2B103/perspective-copy32.gif
About 240 St Georges Tce, Perth
The 29-level tower at 240 St George's Terrace is the largest commercial office tower to be built in Perth since the early 1990s and marks a rejuvenation of the property market in the city.

The office building is the first stage of construction to be commenced on the 8968m2 site, which also provides for the development of a five star international hotel.

Baulderstone Hornibrook is responsible for designing, constructing and financing the office tower which includes the two-level basement structure covering the entire site to accommodate 261 car spaces, motor cycle/bicycle parking, loading docks, gymnasium and plant and ground level plaza slabs. It includes the footings and basement structures for the planned hotel.

The office tower sits on a podium created by the basements. The ground floor has an entry lobby and retail spaces. A mezzanine provides conference facilities for tenants and an auditorium. The 23 levels of office space are in three independent rises, with mid level and roof top plantrooms housing base building and tenant services. Altogether there are some 46,000m2 of lettable space and approximately 20,000m2 of constructed space forming the basements, ground and mezzanines levels and the cores and plantrooms.

At the start of construction, over two-thirds of the office tower was committed for lease to a single major tenant to allow colocation of many of its separate operations.

The new $250million development will be a major addition to the Perth skyline, fitting both the corporate style of St George's Terrace and the vitality of Hay Street
www.projectcentre.com

chrisaus
January 28th, 2003, 05:51 PM
www.projectscentre.net
http://projectcentre.net/PROJECTS/2B103/p8.jpg
http://projectcentre.net/PROJECTS/2B103/p5.jpg
http://projectcentre.net/PROJECTS/2B103/p1.jpg
http://projectcentre.net/PROJECTS/2B103/p3.jpg
http://projectcentre.net/PROJECTS/2B103/p5.jpg
http://projectcentre.net/PROJECTS/2B103/p6.jpg

perthguy78
January 28th, 2003, 06:39 PM
COOL PICS!!!
u legend .. where did u get those pics from?? did u go inside??? :D

perthguy78
January 28th, 2003, 06:48 PM
so have the cores topped out?? does that mean it will be 29 levels above ground or 29 levels including the basement :(

chrisaus
January 28th, 2003, 06:50 PM
www.projectcentre.net
i put the link under the pics , look closer next time:)

PinkFloyd
January 29th, 2003, 03:16 AM
I reacon it's got to be 29 levels above ground. There has to be at least 5-6 levels of underground carpark, considering theres around 250 spaces.

23knots
January 29th, 2003, 10:55 AM
Looks like we'll just have to keep looking at that lift core.

23knots
January 29th, 2003, 10:58 AM
Just from memory, d'you remember the heights DamienK
got from the architects? I remember something like
109m to roof, 119m to top of plant, 127m to butterfly
ornament.

If I remember right and Woodside will be 29 levels
above ground, and it is currently at level 27 and
120m, then 2 extra levels will take the height to
about 128m. Then the plant rooms will take it to
138m....and the ornament will take it to 146m.....then
what with the spire, I think it'll be rivalling QV1!

Someone help!

Something I do know for sure is that a portaloo and
workers' cabin has been installed on the Westralian
apts site - should be starting soon then.

perthsmike
January 29th, 2003, 11:36 AM
mayb they will just keep on building! who knows maybe 100 storeys perhaps?:D lol i wish

this is really strange. i remember seeing the post by damienk abt the heights from the architect, and now they r different. mayb the builders stuffed them up somehow! lol typical. they r too busy worrying abt the lunch periods and pay no attention on their work. ;)

keep going woodside!

mike

Dilaz89
January 29th, 2003, 02:35 PM
mayby their using the money from stamford to keep going
BTW i cant find anything about perth projects on the counsil site

chrisaus
January 29th, 2003, 04:00 PM
1-www.perth.wa.gov.au
2-publications
3- council agendas/mins

chrisaus
January 29th, 2003, 04:02 PM
btw i got a great view of it from the moble petrol station in northbridge [crn james & fitzgerald street]
btw i filled up for 91c while caltex were charging 102c
GO INDERPENDENTS !!

perthguy78
January 29th, 2003, 04:48 PM
Mobil arent independant.. ExxonMobil is the biggest Oil company in the world :)hehe


I think the tower looks much better from the north since u can get an unobstructed view :) it looks good just before u enter the westbound tunnel aswell... really fills in a gap in the skyline :)

23 knots - i think 29 stories includes the plant rooms.. there is 23 levels of office space... i guess 2 will be used for the top plant rooms, 1 used for the mid level plant rooms and then 3 levels for the lobby and mezzanine level...

- I think i read that westralia is starting construction late feb early march

- the Read building is nearly finished aswell... i think the sign says it will be finished in April or thereabouts

- Barrack square hasnt started construction and site works are finished on ABC HQ and building should start soon... The PCEC is going gangbusters... they are using he whole site now and its growing every day.. i wish woodside grew that fast ;)

does anyone know what is happening with St martins aracade?? are the refurbishing it or not?? also when is Cape Bouvard going to start work on the CTA building in front of Allendale square?? They are meant to do a refurb and add a few levels on aswell..

chrisaus
January 29th, 2003, 06:00 PM
it all takes time mate !!

with regards to st martins in the paper multiplex was tendering for the redevelopment also theres a rendering in the windows of the closed down shops in the hay street mall ground floor opposite davey jones

perthguy78
January 29th, 2003, 06:11 PM
okay kewl.. i'll check it out tomoorw when i am in the city ....

DUTCH
January 30th, 2003, 03:08 PM
bad news guys, seems like they have begun to dismantle the core boxes today.

chrisaus
January 30th, 2003, 03:23 PM
is the plant in the core or is that built on top ?

also i think the front part of the tower has 2 more floors, maybe the plants there ? also the structure on top makes it taller
so it looks like its toped out at level 27 ?
i would says it about 122m right now so with the extra bits damiens figures should be 100%

Homeroids
January 31st, 2003, 01:51 AM
Damien's figures said the top of the plant room was 119m's so it's final height could still be more than we were told.

ThePerthVan
February 3rd, 2003, 12:39 PM
No way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It can't top out! It should look taller when it is complete (probably)

Homeroids
February 3rd, 2003, 03:56 PM
If you add the plant room and the butterfly ornament then that should be at least another 18m's. If it's 120m's or so now then it should end up being close to 140m's - a respectable height and worthy addition.

DamienK
February 3rd, 2003, 04:59 PM
I was in the city today and Woodside's core indeed appears to be around 120 m high. These are the figures I got from the architects in June:

Roof 124 m
Plant 134.9 m
Ornament 140.9 m
Ground floor 14.1 m

If the roof figure was 124 m it would seem about right, but you have to subtract the GF figure which gives only 110 m. . . I wonder if the figures were wrong?

DUTCH
February 3rd, 2003, 05:16 PM
"subtract the GF figure"
?

Dilaz89
February 4th, 2003, 10:11 AM
Ground floor figure

PinkFloyd
February 4th, 2003, 10:45 AM
The mold on the eastern core is completely gone now. The eastern mold doesn't seem to have been touched, so there may be a little movement yet.

DUTCH
February 4th, 2003, 02:36 PM
well obviously mdfromperth

but why subtract it

Fabian
February 4th, 2003, 09:05 PM
Looking at the photos from page 11. It's looking pretty good close up. The fascade is looking pretty impressive and blends in with surrounding pretty well.

PinkFloyd
February 7th, 2003, 03:47 AM
I ment to say Western mold hasn't been touched.

Homeroids
February 7th, 2003, 03:23 PM
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<tr><td align=left valign=top>I was in the city today and Woodside's core indeed appears to be around 120 m high. These are the figures I got from the architects in June:

Roof 124 m
Plant 134.9 m
Ornament 140.9 m
Ground floor 14.1 m

If the roof figure was 124 m it would seem about right, but you have to subtract the GF figure which gives only 110 m. . . I wonder if the figures were wrong?</td></tr>
</table>


Those figures there Damien are definitely different to what was told before. I remember 127.5 for the very top but it seems the figures now quoted of 140.9, are more true.

What a pleasant bonus though. At 140.9 it would be 5th or 6th I think.

chrisaus
February 7th, 2003, 04:48 PM
it will be a huge improvment for looking at the CBD from the north
i live in the northern suburbs and everytime im going/passing the city on the mitchell im presented with the worst possible angle of the perth skyline, perths skyscrapers are built to suit the river side, so the northern side is ofter left looking shabby, ie. most the glass facades are facing/near the river ie. bankwest, so this will be a nice addition for me when driving on the mitchell

DamienK
February 7th, 2003, 06:49 PM
I believe the figure of 140.9 m is from sea level (RL), so subtracting 14.1 for the ground floor height gives 126.8 m.

chrisaus
February 15th, 2003, 09:22 AM
saturday feb 15
more pics soon
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid51/p2864adf341c632b2709dce67758e4ef7/fca39208.jpg.orig.jpg

Dilaz89
February 16th, 2003, 01:03 PM
why is there still a core box up there when it has topped out?

PinkFloyd
February 16th, 2003, 01:27 PM
They've begun dismantling it.

chrisaus
February 16th, 2003, 03:27 PM
that pics shows the corebox coming off

Muse
February 17th, 2003, 01:20 AM
The last pic chrisaus posted shows that obviously the core has topped out. With the top floor and top features including the spire, there will be more height than its 130m height to roof. This is going to be one very smart building!! When completed, export it to Sydney immediately; seriously. Charge the delivery costs to me ;) !!

Perthlings - the below construction pic that was taken by vapours on 21/1 shows what i think is a small construction in the very background, between QV1 & Woodside. Excuse my ignorance, but what is it, whether it be a construction or not?

http://members.iinet.net.au/~hedaik/city/wood2.jpg