French football stadium revolution continues apace. :)

A few pics of the new Le Mans stadium:

Location: Le Mans, Pays de la Loire (stadium located inside the circuit of the 24 Hours)
Name: MMArena (New Stadium)
Tenant: Le Mans FC (formerly Le Mans Union Club 72)
Capacity: 25,064 seats (2,000 business seats + 32 suites)
Opening: January 2011
Architects: Cardete & Huet, Studio B. Huet, jointly with Vinci (construction)
Cost: €102M (Public–Private Partnership: Local authorities & Vinci + naming rights: MMA)
Removable tiers in the corners for concert configuration
Rainwater collection system


http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/7261/11012910053211658000apx.jpg

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/8773/dfghe.jpg

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/9963/dsgm.jpg


More renders & pics on posts: #813 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=41232524&postcount=813), #872 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=44433542&postcount=872), #889 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=46399261&postcount=889), #904 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=50635041&postcount=904), #1052 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=63142515&postcount=1052), #1062 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=64050183&postcount=1062), #1069 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=64638171&postcount=1069), #1105 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=66437303&postcount=1105), #1123 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=67719485&postcount=1123), #1132 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=70451303&postcount=1132), #1147 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=70971755&postcount=1147), #1151 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=71494243&postcount=1151), #1165 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=72321163&postcount=1165) & #1166 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=72522935&postcount=1166).

Progress of construction of the new Stade Jean Bouin in Paris (6/11/2011) :

Location: Paris, Ile de France
Name: Stade Jean Bouin (Reconstruction)
Tenant: Stade-Français Paris, Rugby
Capacity: 20,000 seats (51 suites)
Opening: 2013 (under construction)
Architects: Agence Rudy Ricciotti, Lamoureux & Ricciotti, BERIM, Thermibel, jointly with the CSTB (expertise & study)
Cost: €169M (100% Public: City of Paris)
7,400m² of commercial/entertainment areas + 1,000m² of office spaces inside the stadium
Renewable energy (photovoltaic cells: 2,800m²)
Rainwater collection system


Project:

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/6510/02agencerudyricciottico.jpg

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4020/01agencerudyricciottico.jpg

http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/5637/874990050085copie.jpg

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/980/11agencerudyricciottico.jpg

http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/9400/03agencerudyricciottico.jpg


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Construction (taken on June 11, 2011):

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/1792/stadejeanbouin1106.jpg

Leon-Grosse.fr (http://www.leongrosse.fr/srt/leongrosse/home)

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/3446/stadefrancais.gif


More renders and video: posts #804 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=40518864&postcount=804), #913 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=51317085&postcount=913) & #1186 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=75814379&postcount=1186).

thanks for pics :)

How jean Bouin & new parvis for parc des princes will cohabitate?
Seem to have no space for a new place no?

How jean Bouin & new parvis for parc des princes will cohabitate?
Seem to have no space for a new place no?

Well, if they build a new esplanade for the PdP (which is not sure yet), it will be located on the other side of the stadium, above the Périphérique ring road (toward Porte-de-St-Cloud where the closest Métro & bus stations are located).
On the other hand, as you can see on the plan above, the new Jean Bouin will have its own esplanades, a small one on the south-west side, and the main one on the east of the stadium.

And what about jean bouin constructio because Stade français could be relegated in division 2 due to possible abortion of takeover by canadians funds!?

^^ And So ??

Do you really believe they will stop the construction because the team will play in a lower league ?? What about Le Mans, Grenoble, Sedan, Caen, Montpellier (rugby), Montpellier (football), Calais, Reims, Toulouse, Sochaux, Bastia etc etc etc which were not in first division when their new stadium was completed or they were relegated shortly after !

And don't forget that the stade Jean Bouin is planned to be completed by mid-2013... so SF could be back in Top 14 just in time for the grand opening of the new stadium.


Anyway, nothing sure yet about this relegation, so let's wait and see !

you seem so touchy with that question :)

Do you have a participation in their capital? :lol:

just kidding

^^ Yes, actually I have (had ? :() !

money lost then :lol:

I guess the whole thing is dead now :ohno:

Any news on the new L1 team stadia? I seem to remember that all of these are way sub par! Will they be upgraded during the summer!?

I guess the whole thing is dead now :ohno:

Nope !! The "whole thing" is well alive !!! :yes:

:banana:



long live:

http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/1851/626copie.png


:bow::bow::bow::bow::bow::bow: :bow:

Any news on the new L1 team stadia? I seem to remember that all of these are way sub par! Will they be upgraded during the summer!?

OMG those stadiums come from another time, maybe the Middle Age
But clubs are trying to improve them making heavy works to respect french league one criterias.

L1 2011-2012 new clubs :

AC Ajaccio Francois Coty stadium, 8300 places. Since its a corsican team we can't expext a huge future capacity

Current stadium

http://www.corsematin.com/media_corsematin/imagecache/article-taille-normale-nm/Image_coraja25q167_ml_stade_aca.jpg

Project 14000 places (ready in 2011-2012)

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/9366/4116dg1.jpg

Dijon Gaston Gerard stadium, 16 000 places. The future project which has already started will lead to 22 000 places (perfect for this club)


Current stadium with one of the 2 new stands (16000)

http://www.racingstub.com/ressources/photos/167/_min900/imgp0822-14c96.jpg

Stadium when finished (22000)

http://www.remon.fr/references-choisies/stade-dijon/MICHEL%20REMON%20STADE%20DIJON%20nuit%20.jpg

http://stadedijonfootball.unblog.fr/files/2008/11/stadedfco03kf81.jpg

http://stadedijonfootball.unblog.fr/le-nouveau-stade/

Evian Thonon Gaillard Parc des Sports, 14 000 places. There will be works this year to restore it. Parallely they will build a new modern stadium of 15 000 places completed in 2014.
The club owner is the CEO of Danone group. So this young team's got a solid financial background.

http://www.info-stades.fr/forum/ressources/image/thumb/3149

No renders of the new stadium yet

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Concerning the current L1 teams, Valenciennes FC will have his new stadium this summer in July
First match against Borussia Dortmund

25000 places (perfect capacity for an average L1 team) :

http://a9.img.v4.skyrock.net/a9f/les-plus-beaux-stades/pics/2586050689_1_5_cXuLMAVn.jpg

http://www.va-fc.com/fr/nouveaustade/index/

Render of Valenciennes new stadium
http://www.info-stades.fr/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/stade-du-hainaut.jpg
by VAFC official website

^^ it's not a render it's a photography :p

@ Kybo-> it's a REAL pic!! please don't burry people!!

This is the true new valenciennes stadium and it's magnific :cheers:

It is almost the same one for Dijon :lol:

Valenciennes any stadium picture
And le havre updates ?

Valenciennes any stadium picture
And le havre updates ?

Sorry for the mistake

Le Havre pictures by http://www.hac-foot.com/galerie-grand-stade.html


http://www.hac-foot.com/uploads/photo/42a95fdfd7e57afb7cd040c1bd3b3b5f.jpg

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http://www.hac-foot.com/uploads/photo/45a463676ae9fa1b28e3bd0a20dd6e31.jpg

http://www.hac-foot.com/uploads/photo/fd089ef26065edfc3e1192ee3fa74ff6.jpg

Thank you.

Photos taken by me on 06/07/11:

Main access to the rostrum :
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/9660/nungesser1.jpg

Bar a reception area/lounge (Note that all the furniture is white) :
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/5093/nungesser2.jpg

Four flagpoles in front of the main facade :
http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/8025/nungesser3.jpg

The beer pumps awaiting installation :
http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/2656/nungesser4.jpg

Exterior view from a different reception area/lounge :
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/2043/nungesser5.jpg

Another bar lounge / reception area :
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/1214/nungesser6.jpg

On the right, the dressing room a lounge/reception area. At the bottom left, the staircase from the courtyard (Note the neon lights stashed around that make the most beautiful effect (ceilings, staircases) :
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/2304/nungesser7.jpg

Signage on the stage :
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2120/nungesser8.jpg

The south stand (Note that all the protective plastic seats have been removed ^^ Except for the VIP seats) :
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/8739/nungesser9.jpg

The North Stand :
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/4259/nungesser10.jpg

The visitor parking :
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9012/nungesser11.jpg

The retractable forum :
http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/9942/nungesser12.jpg

Main corridor of administrative offices (Office of the President, etc...) :
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/2802/nungesser13.jpg

Furniture next to the toilet :
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/8868/nungesser14.jpg

Dressing room which we do not know the assignment. For staff ? Referees ?
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http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/5848/nungesser16.jpg

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VA's locker room (still missing the locker room to ask about the foundation) :
http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/794/nungesser18.jpg

The access tunnel to the field (Note that behind there is a door leading to the tunnel access buses! Buses so players will lay at the door of their locker room...) :
http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/4993/nungesser19o.jpg

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The visitors locker room (Note that VA, we put everyone on equal footing! Not as Auxerre and Le Mans, where only the local team has the right to this style of dressing well and comfortable class) :
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/2425/nungesser20.jpg

Access to the lawn! Waouhhh ! It's a real pool table :D (Note that the bench areas are key synthetic grass) :
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6594/nungesser22.jpg

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/8366/nungesser23.jpg

Rostrum :
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/7086/nungesser24.jpg

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/1641/nungesser25.jpg

North Stand with its retractable forum :
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http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/2126/nungesser35.jpg

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/2199/nungesser36.jpg

As announced by Raph, this is material which equips the entire Philips Stadium Hainaut in terms of big screens and TV screens !
Lawn Dutch Dutch facilities, VA does not take it for PSV ? :D
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5148/nungesser37.jpg

View from the last place in the tribune South :
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9004/nungesser40.jpg

A passage at the top of which stands all around the stadium :
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/9896/nungesser41.jpg

Is Tribune :
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/8758/nungesser42.jpg

Tribune West :
http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/396/nungesser43.jpg

Some spots stashed above the counters, designed to illuminate the facade of scales :
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/310/nungesser44.jpg

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/8889/nungesser45.jpg

Cache Bright freshly installed :
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/5070/nungesser46.jpg

They begin to paint the administration building, called "The Clubhouse" :
http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/4236/nungesser47.jpg

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A video made ​​by me from the center circle :

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:applause: France will be proud of valenciennes :cheers:

Thank you very much for your superb photos :)

Wow, I really like the new French stadiums, especially the interior facilities look great! Merci mon frère pour ces belles photos! :cheers:

You're welcome! Otherwise, another info is that a few days ago, the newspaper La Voix du Nord has published a special supplement of 12 pages where you will learn a lot about the Stadium of Hainaut as the possibility of installing a and ice and have it play hockey on ice before 25,000 people. They talk about a stadium that can be divided into "fashion arena."

There may be seminars, banquets, weddings Apparently, the manager "Green Marine" was approached by the Consortium Stade de France to relocate production of the Stade de France can not accommodate.

They also speak of the possibility to organize competitions motocross and many other things. They also say that eventually there may be concerts. You just need the time that residents realize that the stadium is sufficiently soundproofed.

And the big thing is that the stadium will be rented at prices attractive to groups to make games!

Here is an excerpt from folder :

Vert Marine va faire vivre le Stade du Hainaut hors match

Tout le monde sportif aura les yeux tournés vers Valenciennes. Surtout dans les villes qui s’apprêtent à construire ou rénover leur stade. Car le Stade du Hainaut va être le premier de l’Hexagone à être géré sous la forme d’une délégation de service public. Et forcément, on va regarder de près ce nouveau fonctionnement qui existait déjà pour des salles de sport ou de spectacle. Ou la patinoire Valigloo, gérée par la même société Vert Marine).

L’activité du délégataire s’articulera autour de deux grands axes : l’entretien du stade et son exploitation au quotidien, qui sera conduite par Cédric Gassiot, la promotion et le développement de l’activité hors match, pilotés par Thibault Lalouette.

Vert Marine devra tout mettre en oeuvre pour assurer toujours un stade prêt à jouer pour le VAFC. Le club pour le coup lui versera une location annuelle (entre 900 000 € et 1,6 M€ selon les résultats).

Une offre totalement nouvelle

Il faut donc trouver des idées pour une exploitation rentable. Et Vert Marine n’en manque pas. L’offre se déclinera dans trois domaines : entreprises, stade en « mode arena » et parkings.
« Pour les entreprises, on bénéficie des trois salons de 100 à 400 m² ainsi que de trois grands halls de 300 m². On proposera des salons, séminaires, ateliers de groupes dans les loges, toute une offre qui n’existe pas dans le Valenciennois. On peut recevoir des conventions de plus 1 000 personnes sur les deux étages. On peut même faire des expositions ou accueillir des mariages. »

Avant même d’envoyer l’offre, les premières demandes sont déjà arrivées à Valenciennes Métropole qui les a fait suivre.

Du hockey sur glace

Vert Marine devrait aussi contacter les différentes fédérations pour organiser des rencontres internationales (rugby, foot), ainsi que des matchs entre clubs. L’entreprise a même déjà été approchée par le Stade de France, qui voit d’un bon oeil l’arrivée du Stade du Hainaut pour y délocaliser les productions qu’il ne peut accueillir. « On est aussi en réflexion pour organiser un match de hockey sur glace devant 25 000 personnes, une première en France. Mais on peut aussi imaginer un moto-cross et plein d’autres choses.»

Vert Marine tient compte aussi de l’espace scénique (sous la tribune amovible), mais ne compte pas mettre en place de concerts pour l’instant. « On reste en période d’analyse. Il faut d’abord que les riverains se rendent compte de l’insonorisation et puis tout naturellement on y viendra. »

Et puis il y a ces petites choses qui titilleront les passionnés de ballon. « On va proposer une location de la pelouse à des prix très attractifs. On pourra louer le stade à des groupes pour des matches. Ce sera une façon pour les Valenciennois de s’approprier le stade. »

Aux rayons des bonnes idées, Vert Marine cherche un restaurateur à l’année pour tenir un restaurant de stade pour déjeuner ou dîner. Les parkings auront aussi leur utilité pour les braderies, salons de l’auto…

« On vise à la fin de la première année 1M € de recettes hors location du VAFC. On y va d’abord tranquillement, il ne s’agit pas d’embaucher 20 personnes. On aura une petite structure : une responsable gestion, une responsable promotion, deux assistantes, une hôtesse d’accueil et du personnel vacataire. Pour être viable, il faut devenir un des grands lieux moteurs au nord de la France dans les équipements multifonctionnels. »
Source : La Voix du Nord

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Valenciennes' stadium looks lovely.

Nice and distinctive being very red, perfect for a club that size that enable it's growth in the future.

Arena 92 by JDS

http://skynet.jdsa.eu/wp-content/uploads/ARE-proj-01.jpg
http://skynet.jdsa.eu/wp-content/uploads/ARE-proj-19.jpg
http://skynet.jdsa.eu/wp-content/uploads/ARE-proj-18.jpg
http://skynet.jdsa.eu/wp-content/uploads/ARE-proj-17.jpg
http://skynet.jdsa.eu/wp-content/uploads/ARE-proj-21.jpg
http://skynet.jdsa.eu/wp-content/uploads/ARE-proj-20.jpg

^^ this is one of the 26 rejected projects of the Arena 92 architecture contest.

^^ this is one of the 26 rejected projects of the Arena 92 architecture contest.

Do you have a link with the others 26 projects?

:puke: the worst design for sure!! :eek:

Do you have a link with the others 26 projects?

Yep ! Here (including the winner: Atelier Christian de Portzamparc):
debat-arena-nanterre.fr/Jury-Concours-Les-27-Projets Candidats.pdf (http://www.debat-arena-nanterre.fr/ressources/jury%20concours%20sur%20esq%20_27%20candidats.pdf)


And, btw, for more info about this stadium, feel free to visit this thread in the "proposed" section :): PARIS - Arena 92 (32,000) (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1321485)


http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/4459/307logoarena2copiew.png

With all these new football stadiums, and the refurbishment of the existing ones for 2016, what sort of average attendances are we looking at for Ligue 1 in the coming years? I know there are always a few clubs in France who are in the top division but simply don't have the support or facilities necessary (dragging down overall attendances), but can we expect Ligue 1 to reach 25,000 averages, perhaps even 30,000 by the end of the decade?

30,000 by the end of the decade is quite possible yes... :)

yes i think too. Especially if the spirit of playing of teams like Lorient,Sochaux and lille spreads all the field of France i think youngs will want their daddies to take them to the stadium.

I read that stadium in Bastia have a new south stand, have any pics ?? and what is new capacity now ? thx

Here is the new stand and it's still U/C.

http://www.sc-bastia.net/v4/wp-content/gallery/stade-avance/img_7763.jpg

http://nsa27.casimages.com/img/2011/07/09/110709120532567089.jpg

Tuesday, July 12, 2011 - 16:33
J-14: Stadium Photos
Stade du Hainaut

In two weeks, the Stade du Hainaut will be inaugurated at a gala match between Borussia Dortmund and the VAFC. Until then, you will find various articles that will teach you more about this new forum. Today, discover new photos ...

http://www.va-fc.com/image/photo/b/7201.jpg

http://www.va-fc.com/image/photo/b/7202.jpg

http://www.va-fc.com/image/photo/b/7203.jpg

http://www.va-fc.com/image/photo/b/7204.jpg

http://www.va-fc.com/image/photo/b/7205.jpg

http://www.va-fc.com/image/photo/b/7206.jpg

http://www.va-fc.com/image/photo/b/7207.jpg

http://www.va-fc.com/image/photo/b/7208.jpg

http://www.va-fc.com/image/photo/b/7209.jpg

http://www.va-fc.com/image/photo/b/7210.jpg

http://www.va-fc.com/image/photo/b/7211.jpg

http://www.va-fc.com/image/photo/b/7212.jpg

http://www.va-fc.com/image/photo/b/7213.jpg

http://www.va-fc.com/image/photo/b/7214.jpg

Source : Official website of Valenciennes Football Club (http://www.va-fc.com/fr/nouveaustade/phototheque/)

Location: Bordeaux Gironde
Name: Stade de Bordeaux (New Stadium)
Tenant: FC Girondins de bordeaux Football
Capacity: 43,500
Opening: 2015
Architects: Herzog & Meuron, jointly with Vinci (construction)
Cost: € ~168-180 millions



http://www.sudouest.fr/images/2011/07/18/le-futur-grand-stade-de-bordeaux_451624.jpg

http://www.sudouest.fr/images/2011/07/18/le-futur-grand-stade-de-bordeaux_451630.jpg

http://www.sudouest.fr/images/2011/07/18/le-futur-grand-stade-de-bordeaux_451626.jpg

http://www.sudouest.fr/images/2011/07/18/le-futur-grand-stade-de-bordeaux_451627.jpg

http://www.sudouest.fr/images/2011/07/18/le-futur-grand-stade-de-bordeaux_451629.jpg

http://www.sudouest.fr/images/2011/07/18/le-futur-grand-stade-de-bordeaux_451631.jpg

http://www.sudouest.fr/images/2011/07/18/le-futur-grand-stade-de-bordeaux_451632.jpg

http://www.sudouest.fr/images/2011/07/18/le-futur-grand-stade-de-bordeaux_451634.jpg

http://www.sudouest.fr/images/2011/07/18/le-futur-grand-stade-de-bordeaux_451635.jpg

http://www.sudouest.fr/images/2011/07/18/le-futur-grand-stade-de-bordeaux_451633.jpg

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^^ Nice but what will happen with the current stadium?
I suppose it will remain a monument and will host a smaller local club or a rugby team?

Reminds me of one of the proposals for the new Portsmouth FC Stadium.

you are 100% right :

Portsmouth:

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/6373/herzogstadiumportsm8a5c.jpg

^^ Nice but what will happen with the current stadium?
I suppose it will remain a monument and will host a smaller local club or a rugby team?

Indeed, it will surely host the games of the Union Bordeaux-Bègles, the local rugby team which acceeded to the Top 14 this year.

New Valenciennes pics From-> http://forum.vaenl1.com/

Opening match vs Borussia Dortmund july 26th


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loving that new ground for Valenciennes

^^ Nice but what will happen with the current stadium?
I suppose it will remain a monument and will host a smaller local club or a rugby team?

Or..."perhaps"... they will tear it down... ;)
As you already know, it's a 75 years old stadium, and apparently its maintenance cost is about €1 million per year... (not to mention that this cost will grow year after year from now) !

Well, I don't know, but I think the Bordeaux municipality will no longer want to pay for such a huge annual maintenance cost (especially because of the new stadium)... and the Bordeaux rugby team isn't rich enough to pay it unfortunately.... So....... :dunno: ...but in my humble opinion the old Parc Lescure (which is a stunning Art-Deco masterpiece BTW...I mean, as a European stadium) is living its last years... :(

Isn't Parc Lescure a French Monument! with a protected facade! I read that somewhere a while ago!

^^ Nope it isn't, not partially, nor as a whole, and it has never been.. (don't trust the French press on this one).


Anyway, you can check on the French Ministry of Culture website (where the exhaustive list of the French historical monuments - and more - is published ;)):

culture.gouv.fr/public/mistral/merimee_fr/édifices sportifs (http://www.culture.gouv.fr/public/mistral/merimee_fr?ACTION=RETROUVER_TITLE&LEVEL=1&GRP=0&REQ=%28%28EDIFICE%20SPORTIF%29%20%3aDENO%20%29&USRNAME=nobody&USRPWD=4%24%2534P&SPEC=9&FIELD_2=DENO&VALUE_2=EDIFICE%20SPORTIF&SYN=1&IMAGE_ONLY=&MAX1=1&MAX2=1&MAX3=100&DOM=Tous)



PS: For example, the Stade de Gerland (Lyon) is part of this list... :yes:

Players first training in the ground of new stadium :)

thanks to Wizz of infostades.fr

(photos site officiel VAFC)

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La vue en arrivant:
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Vue à partir de l'Angle Nord-Ouest:
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Parcage:
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Toilettes mis à notre disposition:
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Une friterie:
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La boutique:
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La Billetterie:
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Une des entrées:
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Le Kop:
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Vue en bas du kop:
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La Tribune Partenaires:
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Les joueurs qui mattent le film en avant-première:
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Quelques angles-morts:
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Inauguration pictures

Valenciennes 0 - 1 BVB 09

To see all the photos : http://www.info-stades.fr/forum/ligue1/valenciennes-stade-du-hainaut-t15-1755.html#p21918

http://www.info-stades.fr/forum/ressources/le-stade-du-hainaut-une-voie-pietonne-a-ete-amenagee-pour-r/thumb/4424

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http://www.info-stades.fr/forum/ressources/jean-louis-borloo-ovatione-par-tout-le-stade-sous-un-air-de/thumb/4487

http://www.info-stades.fr/forum/ressources/banderole-des-supporters-dirigeants-le-vafc-doit-re/thumb/4488

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And some photos by VAFC official website (http://www.va-fc.com/fr/nouveaustade/index/ )

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Some videos

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Thank you kibo :)

good stadium :okay:

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do you know that more recent pics had been posted before you? :|

I don't understand all the guys who post pics of 2 months ago whereas we have the pics of day 1 celebration of the match vs Dortmund?! :?

Some new pictures of le Havre stadium

Credit : http://www.hac-foot.com/ , http://www.agglo-lehavre.fr/

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Le Havre stadium, a big improvement :)

what is this blue joke for the covering?! :nuts:

Is it a solid material or a fragile fiber element?

^^
I've found my bedclothes:lol: Finally!

i guess it's temporarily, if not it's ridiculous

what is this blue joke for the covering?! :nuts:

Is it a solid material or a fragile fiber element?

Its a mockup completely like they did at Valenciniennes.

Progress of works in Le Havre (End of August 2011):

Location: Le Havre, Haute Normandie
Name: "Grand Stade" (New Stadium)
Tenant: Le Havre Athletic-Club
Capacity: 25,000 seats, expandable to 30K (2,713 business seats + 18 suites)
Opening: Early 2012 (under construction)
Architects: SCAU, KSS, IOSIS, jointly with Vinci (construction)
Cost: €80-100M (100% Public: Local authorities)
Retractable tiers for concert configuration
Energy-plus-stadium: Renewable energy (photovoltaic cells)
Rainwater collection system



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^^ Thanks for the pics !
The construction is going fast apparently.

Oh, and IMO this blue membrane looks nice finally.

nice effect but we have to judge with climatic conditions for its efficacity.

nice effect but we have to judge with climatic conditions for its efficacity.

:?
which means ??

the blue part of the covering is made with TEFLON it's not rigid but light:

look when they were laying it few days ago
They tend it after to avoid air waves

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Great stadium for le HAC, and while I'm not sure if it's the actual cladding or just a protective sheet, let me just say that it would be a great color for the stadium, befitting the team colors.

:?
which means ??

That means Axel (just like most of French people, myself included) loves to speak Franglais!! :yes:


Désolé... ! :D

Could somebody fill me in on the stadium situation for Evian Thonon Gaillard F.C.

It's quite confusing for me.

^^ Nobody knows. Maybe they will make it in Seynod (near Annecy), in Ville la Grand (near Annemasse) or in Thonon.

So they will be making a new stadium?

ETG plays in the Parc des Sports at Annecy

:?
which means ??

efficiency sorry :D

Progress of construction of the new Stade Jean Bouin in Paris (Summer 2011) + some new renders :

Location: Paris, Ile de France
Name: Stade Jean Bouin (Reconstruction)
Tenant: Stade-Français Paris, Rugby
Capacity: 20,000 seats (51 suites)
Opening: 2013 (under construction)
Architects: Agence Rudy Ricciotti, Lamoureux & Ricciotti, BERIM, Thermibel, jointly with the CSTB (expertise & study)
Cost: €169M (100% Public: City of Paris)
7,400m² of commercial/entertainment areas + 1,000m² of office spaces inside the stadium
Renewable energy (photovoltaic cells: 2,800m²)
Rainwater collection system


Project:

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New renders:

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Construction (Summer 2011):

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Leon-Grosse.fr (http://www.leongrosse.fr/srt/leongrosse/home)



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renover.jeanbouin.free.fr (http://renover.jeanbouin.free.fr)
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More renders, pics and video: posts #804 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=40518864&postcount=804), #913 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=51317085&postcount=913), #1186 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=75814379&postcount=1186) & #1253 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=80030440&postcount=1253).

Here are some new renders (including the indoor sports configuration) + a new video of the Arena 92 in Paris:

Location: Paris (Nanterre/La Défense), Ile de France
Name: "Arena 92" (New Stadium)
Tenant: Racing-Métro 92, Rugby (formerly Racing-Club de France)
Capacity: 32,000 (2,000 business seats + 100 suites)
Opening: mid-2014
Architects: Atelier Christian de Portzamparc, jointly with Vinci (construction)
Cost: €320M (100% Private: Racing-Métro 92/Stadome + naming rights)
Retractable Roof + movable tiers for concert/indoor arena configuration
33,000m² of office spaces + 10,000m² of commercial/entertainment areas inside the stadium
Renewable energy (geothermal heating, photovoltaic cells: 1,100m² & solar-thermal panels)
Rainwater collection system



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New renderings:

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racing-metro92.com (http://www.racing-metro92.com/arena/index.php)
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New Video showing some details/numbers about the project:

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racing-metro92.com (http://www.racing-metro92.com/arena/index.php)
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More info. & pics on posts #786 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=38563500&postcount=786), #890 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=46399443&postcount=890), #1014 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=54918397&postcount=1014), #1173 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=74637861&postcount=1173), #1236 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=78988994&postcount=1236), #1245 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=79416720&postcount=1245) & in its thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1321485).

on the handball example pic they seem to use a curtain like in ...lille :|

A lot of persons have criticized this when it was for Lille, then i would like to know what you think of this for arena 92 now?

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A lot of persons have criticized this when it was for Lille, then i would like to know what you think of this for arena 92 now?

Oh, what a surprise !! Axel and his Lille comparisons :nuts: ! (I was sure you will write a post like this just after the renders I posted .....)


And, in order to answer you: Nope it's not like Lille, but much more like they do in the US stadiums/Domes since decades (or at the Veltins Arena in Germany since several years), and I already told you that approx. a thousand times !! (also don't forget that these renders are just an illustration showing one of the several possible indoor sports configurations at the Arena 92, like I also told you about a thousand times)....BTW what people criticized, at least myself, about Lille stadium has nothing to do with the arrangement of the indoor sports court/ground. So, read again (and correctly if you can) my posts about that.

i was just asking !

i just see a disapointing system a la velstins.

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on the handball example pic they seem to use a curtain like in ...lille :|

A lot of persons have criticized this when it was for Lille, then i would like to know what you think of this for arena 92 now?

:lol: You're hands down the biggest joker on SSC, what is it with the constant comparisons with the new stadium in Lille? If you want to compare the two arenas how about:


Which stadium/arena makes best use of the space its in? Arena 92 1-0 Lille
Which stadium/arena fits in best with its surroundings? Arena 92 2-0 Lille Which stadium/arena has better opportunity for additonal revenue outside of sporting events? Arena 92 3-0 Lille
Which stadium/arena has better transport links? Arena 92 4-0 Lille Which stadium/arena uses best quality materials in its facade etc (granted it's based on visuals with Arena 92) Arena 92 5-0 Lille
Which stadium has the best curtain? Arena 92 5-1 Lille:ohno:


Just to be clear I've nothing against Lille's new stadium, I've an issue with this troll talking nonsense and repeatidly derailing threads with his bullshit.

To Racing Metro, congratulations on what will be for me one of the most interesting and unique club rugby stadiums in the world and another reason for Parisean's to be proud of the wonderful and unique architecture your city displays time and time again. Here's to seeing it in reality :cheers:

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what a subjective comparison!!!

Unfortunately for you i don't share your opinion ;)

i won't comment each point because i would ridiculize quickly your assesments. :cheers:

the transport links?

have you seen the roads+parkings surrounding lille stadium?
please note that 4 metro stations surrounds lille arena.

:hi:

i don't want to turn this discussion in a "lille vs arena 92" but have you used in la defense the main station RER "seine arche"?

If no let me inform you that it is perhaps the most cumbersomed urban transport station in france and i daren't imagine when workers going back homes meet people going to a concert :nuts:

Axelferis this is the problem with soccer/rugby/football stadium who are reconfigured to accomodate tennis/Bball/Hball/Vball and all other indoor sports! It always looks poorly! They always have to use some kind of curtains. My only objection to that is the NHL Hockey Winter Classic which consist in playing NHL rules hockey in a big outdoor stadium and it's damn good fun!

The Spurs have played a few years in the Alamo dome and never managed to really fill it up during regular season and the sight lines were hum very average from way up top!

That's why it's always somewhat better to have a decently sized indoor arena and a properly sized outdoor stadium be it with a full roof! I heard your city did have a project for a small capacity (5000 seats arena) post some pics of that one in the french section of the forum and I will tell you why imo any proper arena is better than a mess of a huge thing!

Any chance that Qatar will build a fancy new stadium for Paris Saint Germain?

mmm they have money to modernize much more the parc des princes that the first renders we 've seen.

But some rumors say that they prefer to bid to play in stade de france all seasons .

because 80000 seats is better for their plans

But some rumors say that they prefer to bid to play in stade de france all seasons .


Rumors like these ones ?? ;):
Le nouvel homme fort du PSG, Nasser El-Khelaifi, a confirmé la volonté de la nouvelle équipe dirigeante de rester au Parc des Princes. Pas question de déménager au Stade de France.

Lors de la conférence de presse de présentation ce mercredi, Nasser El-Khelaifi a confirmé que le PSG ne déménagerait pas au Stade de France : « Le Parc des Princes, c’est la maison du PSG. Nous y sommes pour très très longtemps » a déclaré Nasser El-Khelaifi.

Le Parisien, July 2011.

So, please Axel, why don't you try to read the "real" French press... (and not the garbage one..)...

the news you mention is old man ;)

they have big plans for paris. SDF move is just a rumor ... but a lucrative one

Like Beckham at paris. Oh they just want him to enable his wife to shop in paris you know

^^ You nevertheless forgot the political & administrative aspects of any hypothetical move of the Paris-SG in another Département...

etc etc etc

So, don't dream too much ;) ! The Paris Saint-Germain Football Club will still play for several decades inside the City/Département of Paris...






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Should PSG move to SDF they would have to kiss their subventions goodbye! I mean it bye bye to City Hall money! And good luck getting help for their new training centre too!PSG has a deal with the city.The deal is, a lock!

Paris is keen to help another football team provided they can stand on their own two feet! Paris FC has made it to the National championship (France third division) They play at Charletty stadium right now. There is a huge step from NC to L1 and Paris FC may fail to remain in NC but the team has gathered a lot of corporate support. I'm not saying they'll make it but given time they are the best bet yet! Red Star has also made it back to NC so that makes another 'Parisian' club that could use SDF in a distant future!

And I repeat, They would have to negotiate with STADEFRANCE to lock dates to play, Good Luck with that! STADEFRANCE can accommodate a pro team but their business plan does not require it! They do turn a profit every year thanks to their entertainment division that's quite successful! They have about 20 or so mega sports event (Football, Rugby, Track & Field, Ice Racing) and they have a but load of mega show during the spring, summer and autumn!

In addition STADEFRANCE manage their ads sales and revenues. PSG sponsors would not have access to prime real estate spots on the stadium. I don't think the club would be ok with ads revenue loss!

Remember another thing renting STADEFRANCE is not cheap, it's so expensive in fact that FFR is willing to get it's own bogus stadium built and STADEFRANCE is calling their bluff by not budging by a iota!

Last point do not forget PSG stubborn fans, they live and die (literally) by PDP! They may never agree with a move why do you think the club hasn't move when SDF opened and offered to them!!

Parc des Princes is going to be renovated for Euro 2016, isn't it? Something about lowering the pitch and also adding a retractable roof, or have I just dreamt that? :?

with the qataries in paris things could change.

They have the power to sustain any project and we don't know at the moment of the future aspect of parc des princes.

Don't forget that it's colony capital more than the qataries that it is directly concerned by the stadium.

PSG at an 80,000 seater stadium? Let's not kid ourselves. PSG might be able to draw near capacity for 2 games. The rest of the time it would 50% full, if that. And the depressing atmosphere of such a cavernous stadium would see crowds fall even further. PDP is perfect for a club of their size and stature. Although I'd like to see them host Marseille/Lyon at SDF

Sad to say but there just isn't the type of football culture in Paris that you see pretty much every other capital city in Europe. Their attendances, even at PDP, vary greatly. One week its 40k, the next 30k. All that in a city of that size. When they start selling out PDP regularly, then they should start talking. Otherwise I can't see PSG averaging more than 50k even with a world class team. Certainly nothing high enough to suggest a permanent move to SDF.

don't forget taht their status has changed:

They bid to be champions each year now. They have money to sign who they want in their team now.

PSG makes the buzz in paris now because public of paris feel that they could be back in european court.

don't forget too that ronaldhino played tehere first in europe and player like neymar could be the future target of the owners.

Don't understimate the "new public" this type of "buzz" could create.

Well when Ronaldinho played here the PDP was not always full! When Rai and Ginola played and won the UEFA Cup the parc was not always full!

Now rumors are what they are... Rumors some prove to be true some are just shite thrown at your eyes! Stop reading into the coffee pot!

And as far as the new public believe me it's not all new! Yes there's a new generation of fan coming to the Parc But believe if you will the Old gang is still there, some of the baddies are still around they may not be able to get in anymore but they are still around.

The Quataries also own ManCity as far as I know they haven't moved the team to Old Trafford!

The Quataries also own ManCity as far as I know they haven't moved the team to Old Trafford!

Man City are owned by guys from Abu Dhabi, a different stretch of desert. Plus, Eastlands is a brand new stadium anyway. PDP has been around for a while.

Man City are owned by guys from Abu Dhabi, a different stretch of desert. Plus, Eastlands is a brand new stadium anyway. PDP has been around for a while.

Oups sorry my bad, wrong sandy pits! Did not mean to offend anyone!
Yes PDP has been around in a while and is about to undertake its biggest overhaul that should take him in the league of the new refurbished Vancouver BC Place, a previous project included 54000 seats, new facilities built in: restaurant store, skyboxes, and a roof!

Would there be any major issues with lowering the pitch and extending the bottom tier? To be honest, I'm surprised at how big the gap between the stands and the pitch currently is. :(


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Studies have been realized it's part of the package for 2016 Euro!

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1316765

don't forget taht their status has changed:

They bid to be champions each year now. They have money to sign who they want in their team now.

PSG makes the buzz in paris now because public of paris feel that they could be back in european court.

don't forget too that ronaldhino played tehere first in europe and player like neymar could be the future target of the owners.

Don't understimate the "new public" this type of "buzz" could create.

I totally agree with you. A move in Stade de france is not an utopist scenario but a very realistic one.
People who claim the opposite just express a wish, a fan will because they don't want it.

Since new owners came everything changed in this club and it's only the beginning.

I dont know if it will happen and nobody knows except Qataris

1. They have enough money to renovate Parc des Princes but also to convince stadefrance owners for an interesting partnership. Qataris owners do say that they are thinking about those issues. Nothing is decided yet

2. Parc des princes renovation was a classified file in January 2011 according to colony capital. But strangely, the deal is still not done and it's been 10 months that city of Paris seems to change its mind on this. I dont think its a coincidence

^^ Again, you forget that the Stade de France is not in Paris, not even in the same département. So, actually, the realistic scenario is that the Paris municipality will not let its onliest professional football club move to another département in the near future. ;)

(even if the municipality has to refurbish itself the Parc des Princes for that)

Studies have been realized it's part of the package for 2016 Euro!

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1316765

Thanks. Ah, another thread Axel tried to ruin. ;)

i would destroy the first half of trinunes to make a business belt with boxes+ a normal tiers.

then we would have 3 tiers like the most of new european stadiums and this would be more suited for a city like paris.

this stadium is too "shy" for paris ambitions.

just look emirates or the new white hart lane project. :|

The nostalgic guys of paris should be more excited for a true renovation than just adding red seats

^^ Again, you forget that the Stade de France is not in Paris, not even in the same département. So, actually, the realistic scenario is that the Paris municipality will not let its onliest professional football club move to another département in the near future. ;)

(even if the municipality has to refurbish itself the Parc des Princes for that)

If it was only a geaograhical issue, there will be no talks about an hypothetical move.

Its more complicated

Just read what Qataris were saying this summer :

http://www.rtl.fr/actualites/sport/football/article/l1-psg-le-qatar-prend-ses-quartiers-a-paris-7699357714

Très prudent, le représentant de QSI ne s'avance pas non plus sur l'épineux dossier du Parc des Princes, sujet très sensible chez les supporters. Un Parc des Princes qui doit être rénové en vue de l'Euro 2016. Le PSG, qui devra jouer un temps au Stade de France, pourrait ne jamais revenir dans son stade fêtiche si les Qatariens considèrent que le SDF est plus à même d'accompagner les ambitions du club. "Il est trop tôt pour répondre à cette question. Il y a des discussions à ce sujet, c'est évident. Mais je ne peux pas encore apporter de réponse définitive."


Translation : "Its too early to answer this question. There are talks about it, that's clear. But I can't bring a final answer"

Really just look at the new Juventus stadium or the newly refurbished Vancouver BC place! 3 seating tiers are only worth the investment for 70k+ stadium or stadium with very limited footprint.

Like most Parisians will agree to see this team move to St Denis, hell no! The mayor will bite a bullet rather than to allow that. The overhaul has been voted and budgeted and even phased! Should the club move before or after the Euro, the city and the Government will snap!!! Will PSG play there during the renovation yes that's a foregone conclusion! Still the club will go back to a brand spanking new soccer specific arena like stadium when the work is finished!

I'd like to add another thing. Even in football configuration fans are not as close to the action at the SDF as they are at PDP. You can't change that! PDP after remodeling will procure a more intimate, more fan like experience of the game!

Besides Axelferis what would happen to PDP if PSG moves, do you tear it down!? Cause there is no over club in L1 or L2 able to use it right now!?

If it was only a geaograhical issue, there will be no talks about an hypothetical move.

Its more complicated

Who told you it was that simple ? Because It's not only geographical indeed, but also political, administrative and financial, dear !!!
(e.g. City of Paris subventions, including for the training facilities in St-Germain-en-Laye, the long term deal signed by the club with the Paris municipality etc etc etc)

Not to mention the club's colors which are the City of Paris' colors (+ the white for St-Germain-en-Laye), and not the Seine-St-Denis ones... etc !


Oh, and take look at what the Qatari said later in July (after the article you quoted) ;):
Le nouvel homme fort du PSG, Nasser El-Khelaifi, a confirmé la volonté de la nouvelle équipe dirigeante de rester au Parc des Princes. Pas question de déménager au Stade de France.

Lors de la conférence de presse de présentation ce mercredi, Nasser El-Khelaifi a confirmé que le PSG ne déménagerait pas au Stade de France : « Le Parc des Princes, c’est la maison du PSG. Nous y sommes pour très très longtemps » a déclaré Nasser El-Khelaifi.

Le Parisien, mid-July 2011

I really hope that this, last element brings that discussion to an end! Thanks parcdesprinces! It's kind of logical to have you to provide the last word! lol

Hey, it seems that you 've got a fan club parcdesprinces...

So you think it needs just took 2 weeks to decide ?
You dont think he told that in order to quiet the fans ??

Don't you remember he told Leproux will stay president ? Before firing him 3 weeks later ?

But if you are so sure about that, I give up I dont want to disappoint Neda Say... :)

Paris can maintain another team? maybe the come back of the Racing club? or Paris FC?

accept it or not: during renovation they'll play in SDF ;)

the true question is about the ambition of colony capital which are the first concerned with the rent deal.

They are a real estate company then the added value is their main priority.

And now guess who changes his tune again! Axelferis everybody knew they were going to play at SDF during the renovation! It's just ridiculous to tell us to accept it! They'll play there if it is available at dates they'll have to provide as soon as the 2014 calendar is out! You're just fishing to be right in the end tell us: "Hey you guys, remember when I said that, I was right about that!!!"

As for taking two weeks to decide! Hum Colony has a deal to run PDP right?! And that deal is a long term one right?! Now they sold the team to a new owner that would just take the club away from 'their' stadium! Right!!! if Colony did not have a clause in the contract that made it clear that PSG had to play in PDP for the next 25 years (except during renovation work) signed. I'm sorry but they are dumb and all need to be fired by the board!!!

Video of Le Havre new stadium, october 2011
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Progress of construction of the new Stade Jean Bouin in Paris (fall 2011) :

Location: Paris, Ile de France
Name: Stade Jean Bouin (Reconstruction)
Tenant: Stade-Français Paris, Rugby
Capacity: 20,000 seats (51 suites)
Opening: 2013 (under construction)
Architects: Agence Rudy Ricciotti, Lamoureux & Ricciotti, BERIM, Thermibel, jointly with the CSTB (expertise & study)
Cost: €169M (100% Public: City of Paris)
7,400m² of commercial/entertainment areas + 1,000m² of office spaces inside the stadium
Renewable energy (photovoltaic cells: 2,800m²)
Rainwater collection system


Project:

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Leon-Grosse.fr (http://www.leongrosse.fr/srt/leongrosse/home)

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More renders, pics and video: posts #804 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=40518864&postcount=804), #913 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=51317085&postcount=913), #1186 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=75814379&postcount=1186), #1253 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=80030440&postcount=1253) & 1322 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=83508389&postcount=1322).

Which team will play in this stadium ?

Which team will play in this stadium ?

^^ Tenant: Stade-Français Paris, Rugby

PSG plays at Parc des Princes
Paris FC plays at Stade Charletty
Racing Metro will play at Arena 92
Stade Français will play at Stade Jean Bouin and is currently playing at Charletty!

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^^ :rofl:


You're so 2010 !

36,645 during Euro

Euro 2044 maybe :lol:

^^ :rofl:


You're so 2010 !

:lol: indeed!...But well, given the fact that RC Strasbourg regularly have a 10 000 people attendance in 5th division, maybe they should consider building a 80k stadium for the day they'll be back in Ligue 1 lol...:nuts:

if they ever make it back there! The most competitive League in this country doesn't appear to be Ligue 1 but Ligue 2!

Here are some new renders of the Arena 92 in Paris (Thanks to Jex7844 for the find):

Location: Paris (Nanterre/La Défense), Ile de France
Name: "Arena 92" (New Stadium)
Tenant: Racing-Métro 92, Rugby (formerly Racing-Club de France)
Capacity: 32,000 (2,000 business seats + 100 suites)
Opening: mid-2014
Architects: Atelier Christian de Portzamparc, jointly with Vinci (construction)
Cost: €320M (100% Private: Racing-Métro 92/Stadome + naming rights)
Retractable Roof + movable tiers for concert/indoor arena configuration
33,000m² of office spaces + 10,000m² of commercial/entertainment areas inside the stadium
Renewable energy (geothermal heating, photovoltaic cells: 1,100m² & solar-thermal panels)
Rainwater collection system



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New renders:
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platforms.fr (AWP) (http://www.platforms.fr/spip.php?breve61)
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More info. & pics on posts #786 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=38563500&postcount=786), #890 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=46399443&postcount=890), #1014 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=54918397&postcount=1014), #1173 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=74637861&postcount=1173), #1236 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=78988994&postcount=1236), #1245 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=79416720&postcount=1245), #1323 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=84228847&postcount=1323) & in its thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1321485).

Kindarena
Location : Rouen
Opening date : september 2012
Capacity : 6000

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Progress of construction of the new Stade Jean Bouin in Paris (november 2011) + some pics of the perforated BFUP (Ultra High Performance Fibre Reinforced Concrete) cladding panels. These perforations are closed with glass on the roof.

Location: Paris, Ile de France
Name: Stade Jean Bouin (Reconstruction)
Tenant: Stade-Français Paris, Rugby
Capacity: 20,000 seats (51 suites)
Opening: March 2013 (under construction)
Architects: Agence Rudy Ricciotti, Lamoureux & Ricciotti, BERIM, Thermibel, jointly with the CSTB (expertise & study)
Cost: €169M (100% Public: City of Paris)
7,400m² of commercial/entertainment areas + 1,000m² of office spaces inside the stadium
Renewable energy (photovoltaic cells: 2,800m²)
Rainwater collection system


Project:

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Construction (november 2011) & BFUP (Ultra High Performance Fibre Reinforced Concrete) cladding panels :

Roof panels
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Façade panels (these panels on the façades will cover an acoustic/glass wall):
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Leon-Grosse.fr (http://www.leongrosse.fr/srt/leongrosse/home) & Le Courrier de l'Architecte.com (http://www.lecourrierdelarchitecte.com/)
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More renders, pics and video: posts #804 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=40518864&postcount=804), #913 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=51317085&postcount=913), #1186 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=75814379&postcount=1186), #1253 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=80030440&postcount=1253), #1322 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=83508389&postcount=1322) & #1358 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=85402760&postcount=1358).

^^^^

Quite interesting design, but location doesn't help much.

Location is just perfect where it is.

Great news:

The parc des Princes will be closed during 2 years (2013-2015) for a renovation.

The psg will play at St denis during this period.

One aspect of this renovation is they will low the pitch by digging it.

They aparently decide to increase the capacity :cheers:

Wow that's something we did not know!


2 years instead of 1! I wonder what will require so much time! Probably taking it real slow due to the Péripherique running below it!

apparently the net UEFA capacity is 45000 then in "normal mode" we can be between 48k-50k

but a bit small for the only one major club of Paris.

We will see after having some matchs at 80k filled during 2 years in st denis what they'll think to pass after 2015 under 50k :lol:

I think PSG would be better to start fresh and build a new stadium. Something like Lyon is building. It's not like money's an issue for PSG anymore.

^^ It's more complicated than that, because PSG must stay inside the City of Paris, and there's no room inside the city walls for a new large stadium, and regarding the current Parc des Princes' site, it's a bit too small for a larger brand new stadium (not to mention that the local residents and politicians will certainly be strongly opposed to a new stadium on the current site).

Add to this the fact that neither the Paris SG fans (all of them/us), nor the PSG owners, nor obviously the Paris municipality who owns the Parc des Princes and has a long term agreement with the club (which includes several generous public financial helps), want the PSG to leave this stadium ! ;)

OK, PSG just denied the information appeared in the press today and posted above by Axelferis:

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PSG.fr/en (http://www.psg.fr/en/Article/003001/Article/56031/Communique)

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PSG.fr (http://www.psg.fr/fr/Article/003001/Article/56031/Communique)

temporary deny ;)


We know what it means

They cannot confirm now they have chosen vinci project or another one .The same for beckham coming but they can't reveal it.

We are sure that they plan big works there. It's logical for legal competitive process to not reveal the choice now.

They cannot confirm now they have chosen vinci project or another one .

:ohno: Absolutely not !

Again, Axel, you're mixing things...and you're comparing apples with oranges btw (as usual).
Because the Colony Capital-Vinci project has been chosen (BY THE CITY OF PARIS) several months ago......especially because they are the only candidate.

It's not because you didn't know untill yesterday evening (thanks to your TV :laugh:) that Vinci was involved in this project, that it is new ! Far from that because actually it's known for almost a year, if not more:

Colony Capital Europe, actionnaire majoritaire du PSG, s'est associé à Vinci dans ce dossier. Depuis l'été dernier, l'affaire semble entendue. Colony, seul candidat en lice, est appelé à devenir le titulaire du bail.
Le Parisien (march 2011 ;))



So, there's only one project (Colony/PSG-Vinci), but which is still unknown and still under discussion it's several details of this project, that's why they don't know yet how long the works will last. As simple as that !
(and btw the competitive dialogue is completed since a while.... and anyway, again, there was only one bidder : Colony/PSG-Vinci. The current discussion being between them - including the Qatari - and the Paris City Hall who will decide)

there 's only one for the moment!

QSI has expressed their wishes concerning how they want the parc des princes (more vip boxes,lodges,etc...)

Then Vinci i is involved since the beginning but the owner of PSG has its word to say like you know.

And after all i just relayed an info published yesterday.

there 's only one for the moment!

First of all, you seem to forget that Colony Capital still owns 30% of PSG (these 30% include the SESE/Parc des Princes' management = ticketing etc, the renovations works and the 40+ years emphyteutic lease).

Secondly, there can't really be another project, because the deal (Emphyteutic lease, which includes the renovation works) between Colony Capital/PSG/Vinci and the municipality is about to be sealed.
Only the Paris City Hall could launch a new bid invitation (which would take several additional years), but in the first second they'd do that, Colony Capital would sue them (IMO) :devil: = years and years of procedure + potentially hundreds of millions of compensation paid by the municipality to Colony Capital.

So, indeed the Qatari apparently want to be involved in this project, but the only way possible for them is to find a deal with Colony Capital in order to be part of the CURRENT project and then, with Colony, modifying it a bit eventually (and that's what they want & what they try to do AFAIK).

And don't forget either that at the end of the day, the only decision-maker about this renovation is the Paris Municipality (and not PSG, Colony or the Qatari).
That's why the current discussions are so hard and so long, because Colony and the City Hall still haven't found an agreement regarding several aspects of this project (especially about the emphyteutic lease length, for example).

I agree pardesprinces but you know qatar begins to have serious ambitions for this club (the coming of beckham,want to be in champions league right next year, new camp des loges camp training in reflexion...)
then they want to genrate cash $$ and make PSG a brand easily recognizable everywhere (asia market especially)

One thing that i remember is Charles Villeneuve in early of this year (march/april before the takeover by qataris) said one thing was relucted qatar by buying this club is the absence of propriety-> No stadium belong to psg nothing ! And psg is just a simple association when in another countries the clubs are a more solid structure etc... then they were very surprised of all of this before buying psg.

Today i think they want to change things. if they don't intend to build their stadium (whereas they have money to do it) they want to generate seriously a level of money interesting. Like if they were in england with a owner stadium.

That's why the negociations are so hard to change things.(not all but some structural )

The day PSG or it's owner can afford to build a brand new stadium in Paris or its first ring! I'll shave my head! There I said it. I'll shave my head if they get a 70000+ seater built!Other than Auxerre no club in France owns its stadium! This is not England! In the US, sports franchise do not own the venue they play in! They are built mostly by cities and investors and then these investors then propose another group of investors to buy or set up a sports franchise! In Italy stadium are built either by cities or more rarely by clubs provided they can get loan and the cost of real estate is not ludicrous! Spain is a terrible exemple ( valencia c.f fiasco rings a bell anyone)...

The day PSG or it's owner can afford to build a brand new stadium in Paris or its first ring! I'll shave my head! There I said it. I'll shave my head if they get a 70000+ seater built!Other than Auxerre no club in France owns its stadium! This is not England! In the US, sports franchise do not own the venue they play in! They are built mostly by cities and investors and then these investors then propose another group of investors to buy or set up a sports franchise! In Italy stadium are built either by cities or more rarely by clubs provided they can get loan and the cost of real estate is not ludicrous! Spain is a terrible exemple ( valencia c.f fiasco rings a bell anyone)...

I dont get it, what happens if PSG builds a brand new stadium with only 60.000 or the first ring to hold 70.000??????

I dont get it, what happens if PSG builds a brand new stadium with only 60.000 or the first ring to hold 70.000??????
I think he meant the 'first ring' in terms of location within the Paris first ring. Though not sure if that's what you were asking about :)

Thanks Michal, yes I was speaking of the first ring of surburbs of Paris!

pls, how many new stands have Stade Gaston Gérard in Gijon, and what is current capacity?? :) thx

http://www.info-stades.fr/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/dijon5.jpg


^^ There are 2 new stands at the moment, the current capacity is around 15.500-16.000.

And the name of the city is DIJON, don't confound it with Gijon in Spain.

Any plans of building the other two stands in Dijon?

Yes... But there's no time frame for it yet! I guess that if Dijon manages to maintain itself in ligue 1 that could speed up the process!

Le havre stadıum any updates ?

^^

Photos by the local mewspaper "Paris-Normandie" , beginning of December 2011 :

http://www.paris-normandie.fr/media/imagecache/diaporama/bm-grand-stade004-319882.jpg

http://www.paris-normandie.fr/media/imagecache/diaporama/bm-grand-stade003-319881.jpg

http://www.paris-normandie.fr/media/imagecache/diaporama/bm-grand-stade002-319880.jpg

http://www.paris-normandie.fr/media/imagecache/diaporama/bm-grand-stade005-319883.jpg

http://www.paris-normandie.fr/media/imagecache/diaporama/bm-grand-stade006-319884.jpg

http://www.paris-normandie.fr/media/imagecache/diaporama/bm-grand-stade007-319885.jpg

http://www.paris-normandie.fr/media/imagecache/diaporama/bm-grand-stade008-319887.jpg

http://www.paris-normandie.fr/media/imagecache/diaporama/bm-grand-stade009-319888.jpg

http://www.paris-normandie.fr/media/imagecache/diaporama/bm-grand-stade014-319889.jpg

http://www.paris-normandie.fr/media/imagecache/diaporama/bm-grand-stade010-319890.jpg

http://www.paris-normandie.fr/media/imagecache/diaporama/bm-grand-stade016-319891.jpg

http://www.paris-normandie.fr/media/imagecache/diaporama/bm-grand-stade017-319892.jpg

http://www.paris-normandie.fr/media/imagecache/diaporama/bm-grand-stade015-319894.jpg

http://www.paris-normandie.fr/media/imagecache/diaporama/bm-grand-stade026-319897.jpg

http://www.paris-normandie.fr/media/imagecache/diaporama/bm-grand-stade027-319898.jpg

http://www.paris-normandie.fr/media/imagecache/diaporama/bm-grand-stade013-319900.jpg

http://www.paris-normandie.fr/media/imagecache/diaporama/bm-grand-stade011-319905.jpg

http://www.paris-normandie.fr/media/imagecache/diaporama/bm-grand-stade018-319906.jpg



Photos by the official facebook page :

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/391880_297152476983188_143514219013682_988046_1813426245_n.jpg

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/383198_303158799715889_143514219013682_1003504_900905227_n.jpg



An aerial shot by batiweb.com :

http://www.info-stades.fr/forum/ressources/image/thumb/8649

And btw, it have been announced that the stadium will host a friendly match of the french rugby team in Autumn 2012.

^^
http://www.paris-normandie.fr/media/imagecache/diaporama/bm-grand-stade016-319891.jpg
Quality of the concrete works in this photo seems pretty poor.

^^^I was thinking the same! I hope they'll treat this or these area(s)!

The day PSG or it's owner can afford to build a brand new stadium in Paris or its first ring! I'll shave my head! There I said it. I'll shave my head if they get a 70000+ seater built!Other than Auxerre no club in France owns its stadium! This is not England! In the US, sports franchise do not own the venue they play in! They are built mostly by cities and investors and then these investors then propose another group of investors to buy or set up a sports franchise! In Italy stadium are built either by cities or more rarely by clubs provided they can get loan and the cost of real estate is not ludicrous! Spain is a terrible exemple ( valencia c.f fiasco rings a bell anyone)...

The US is a horrible example, as cities compete for the franchises, and building a stadium with very generous conditions for the clubs is one of the ways they try to get the franchises to come. This competition doesn't exist in Europe.

Simply said, it's possible for solvent clubs to build a stadium if the rise in revenue is bigger than the interest in the loan they have to take on. And that is generally the case with sufficiently big clubs (apart from England, there are lots of examples in Germany, there's Juventus, there's FC Copenhagen, there's Fenerbahce and others). The questions are can they get the city to build a good-enough project which would provide similar returns for the club or not. And indeed, if they can get the land they want to build the stadium upon - if they don't already own it, clubs tend to get it cheap from the city for their stadium projects.

New!!!

Everybody can visit virtually Le havre new stadium

here enjoy :cheers:

http://www.my-stadium.com/applications/codah/20111025/iframe.php

Just wonderful stadium

^^ Noooooo! I so hope they don't put the video screens in the corner like it indicates in that link. :ohno:

^^ What's wrong with the screens in the corners ?
On the contrary, from my own experience based on the numerous stadiums where I've been, I always found that it was the better option in terms of visibility from the larger number of seats possible in the bowl. Much better IMO than screens in the end stands.

Anyway, on the official renders, they are also in the corners:

Le Havre Stadium, new renders :

Location: Le Havre, Upper Normandy
Name: "Grand Stade" (New Stadium)
Tenant: Le Havre Athletic-Club
Capacity: 25,000 seats, expandable to 30K (2,713 business seats + 18 suites)
Opening: Early 2012 (under construction)
Architects: SCAU, KSS, IOSIS, jointly with Vinci (construction)
Cost: €80-100M (100% Public: Local authorities)
Retractable tiers for concert configuration
Energy-plus-stadium: Renewable energy (photovoltaic cells)
Rainwater collection system


http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6450/20101011143132tof5.jpg

Well some people do prefer a more expensive jumbotron hovering in thin air bang in the middle of the stadium! No seat lost to the screen and everybody can see it from wherever you seat including players and referees.

^^Indeed, I admit I've never been to THE new Dallas stadium... ;)

Just confirmed yesterday! Great pic of a news day imo!



Angers Metro is set to get a 5000(sports)/6000+ (show) arena located in the town of Trélazé! The arena will be a multisport (volley, basket, handball, tennis... again not hockey compatible!). Publicly funded thanks to a 25 year mortgage (naming will probably be used to reduce the taxpayer bill). Cost is minimal at 18 M euros which means no extra tax to fund it!

http://patriarche.fr/ftpimages/projets/equipementmultifonctionnel-trelaze49/architecte_grande_salle_trelaze_stade_02.jpg

http://www.patriarche.fr/ftpimages/projets/equipementmultifonctionnel-trelaze49/architecte_grande_salle_trelaze_stade_04.jpg

http://www.patriarche.fr/ftpimages/projets/equipementmultifonctionnel-trelaze49/architecte_grande_salle_trelaze_stade_03.jpg

I don't know if it's funny or sad , just like Rouen, Angers' number one pro sport is Hockey! And they don't seem to think that having an arena that is ice hockey capable is a good idea! The local handball team plays in French Division 2.

The architect is the same one that realized The Palio Arena in Boulazac so expect the same U shaped arena!

Le Havre Stadium update, beginning of January 2012 :

http://www.agglo-lehavre.fr/Evenements/Grand_Stade/images/IMG_0579d.jpg

http://www.agglo-lehavre.fr/Evenements/Grand_Stade/images/IMG_0646d.jpg

http://www.agglo-lehavre.fr/Evenements/Grand_Stade/images/IMG_0689d.jpg

http://www.agglo-lehavre.fr/Evenements/Grand_Stade/images/DSC_1601.jpg

http://www.agglo-lehavre.fr/Evenements/Grand_Stade/images/DSC_1698.jpg

http://www.agglo-lehavre.fr/Evenements/Grand_Stade/images/DSC_1732.jpg

http://www.agglo-lehavre.fr/Evenements/Grand_Stade/images/DSC_1829.jpg


Photos by CODAH (Le Havre Agglomeration community)

nice

Progress of construction of the new Stade Jean Bouin in Paris (winter 2012).

Location: Paris, Ile de France
Name: Stade Jean Bouin (Reconstruction)
Tenant: Stade-Français Paris, Rugby
Capacity: 20,000 seats (51 suites)
Opening: March 2013 (under construction)
Architects: Agence Rudy Ricciotti, Lamoureux & Ricciotti, BERIM, Thermibel, jointly with the CSTB (expertise & study)
Cost: €169M (100% Public: City of Paris)
7,400m² of commercial/entertainment areas + 1,000m² of office spaces inside the stadium
Renewable energy (photovoltaic cells: 2,800m²)
Rainwater collection system


Project:

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/367/14927copie.jpghttp://img17.imageshack.us/img17/345/8943copie.jpg

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/6510/02agencerudyricciottico.jpg

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4020/01agencerudyricciottico.jpg

http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/9400/03agencerudyricciottico.jpg


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Construction (including pics of the BFUP - Ultra High Performance Fibre Reinforced Concrete - cladding & roof panels) :

roof panels
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/5620/photo006webcopie.jpghttp://img214.imageshack.us/img214/3104/201106172902webcopie.jpg

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/1206/dsc0032p.jpg


facade panels
http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/5492/10ckaysercopie.jpg

http://img573.imageshack.us/img573/7751/11leongrossecopie.jpg

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/79/12leongrossecopie.jpg

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http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/8961/jb01copie.jpg

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/2780/jb04copie.jpg

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/2631/jb03copie.jpg

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/6625/jb02copie.jpg

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4532/20120127jb3.jpg

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/6774/20120127jb5.jpg

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/5949/20120127jb7.jpg

http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/7456/20120127jb12.jpg

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/6779/20120127jb13.jpg

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/4207/20120127jb14.jpg

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/7237/20120127jb19.jpg

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/1250/20120127jb20.jpg

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/8476/20120127jb21.jpg

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/1865/20120127jb22.jpg

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/4071/20120127jb23.jpg

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/4248/20120127jb24.jpg

Leon-Grosse.fr (http://www.leongrosse.fr/srt/leongrosse/home) & renover.jeanbouin.free.fr (http://renover.jeanbouin.free.fr)
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/5750/logosfp.gif



More renders, pics and video: posts #804 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=40518864&postcount=804), #913 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=51317085&postcount=913), #1186 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=75814379&postcount=1186), #1253 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=80030440&postcount=1253), #1322 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=83508389&postcount=1322), #1358 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=85402760&postcount=1358) & #1369 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=86094411&postcount=1369).

It's good to see that something happen in france. I always wondered why the french stadiums are so ugly besides SDF.

Let's hope the italians will follow.

France will approach the level of germany concerning stadiums and arena :cheers:
Italy will be behind France in two years: (Lille,Nice,Marseille,Bordeaux ,Lyon,Nanterre,Jean Bouin,Le havre,Le mans,Valenciennes...)
+All new arenas that coming for handball 2017 world cup.

France is serious now when come the structures question.


I am a bit disapointed about the cladding of jean Bouin. it's not what i expected when you look the maquette :(

The new ground of Le Havre looks good, when will it be opened?

july 2012 :)

thanks to phil76 on infostades.fr

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-siX-wdy_4hE/Typxcj4nF_I/AAAAAAAAAaA/oSamzRuGphQ/s640/P020212_10.430001.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-G3LO4i4wvHg/TypxBtbcZzI/AAAAAAAAAZA/vHcquwviKso/s640/P020212_10.240001.JPG

Le Havre (25,000)

http://www.scau.com/blog/


http://www.scau.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/20120209-105048.jpg

Phil 76

http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/5091/09021217450001.jpg

Two more pics of the new Stade Jean Bouin reconstruction in Paris (january 2012):

Location: Paris, Ile de France
Name: Stade Jean Bouin (Reconstruction)
Tenant: Stade-Français Paris, Rugby
Capacity: 20,000 seats (51 suites)
Opening: March 2013 (under construction)
Architects: Agence Rudy Ricciotti, Lamoureux & Ricciotti, BERIM, Thermibel, jointly with the CSTB (expertise & study)
Cost: €169M (100% Public: City of Paris)
7,400m² of commercial/entertainment areas + 1,000m² of office spaces inside the stadium
Renewable energy (photovoltaic cells: 2,800m²)
Rainwater collection system


Project:

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/367/14927copie.jpghttp://img17.imageshack.us/img17/345/8943copie.jpg

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4020/01agencerudyricciottico.jpg

http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/9400/03agencerudyricciottico.jpg


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Construction:

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/2544/dsc0026qu.jpg

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/18/dsc0062ds.jpg

Leon-Grosse.fr (http://www.leongrosse.fr/srt/leongrosse/home)

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/3446/stadefrancais.gif



More renders, pics and video: posts #804 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=40518864&postcount=804), #913 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=51317085&postcount=913), #1186 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=75814379&postcount=1186), #1253 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=80030440&postcount=1253), #1322 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=83508389&postcount=1322), #1358 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=85402760&postcount=1358), #1369 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=86094411&postcount=1369) & #1405 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=88188493&postcount=1405)

Le havre is marvellous :cheers:

^^Amazing cladding :)

Here are some new renders of the refurbished Stadium de Toulouse:

Location: Toulouse, Midi-Pyrénées
Name: Stadium Municipal (Refurbishment & Extension)
Tenant: Toulouse FC
Extension: 35,575 --> 40/43,000 seats (33 suites)
Opening: 2014
Architects: Cardete & Huet
Cost: €54M (100% public: Local Authorities)
Rainwater collection system

(Euro 2016 candidate City)


Current Stadium:
http://a.imageshack.us/img189/4825/1stadiumrwc2007copie.jpg http://a.imageshack.us/img836/9426/12stadiumfaadetribunepr.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img854/206/10cstadiumextrieurcopie.jpg http://a.imageshack.us/img13/334/12cstadiumfaadetribunep.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img843/4678/15bstadiumfaadetribuneo.jpg http://a.imageshack.us/img52/5287/41stadiumtribuneprincip.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img821/9336/49stadiumtribuneprincip.jpg http://a.imageshack.us/img841/2088/14stadiumfaadetribuneopc.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img822/4129/30cstadiumintrieurcopie.jpg http://a.imageshack.us/img802/3563/37stadiumintrieurrwc200.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img813/2446/capturedcran20100224133.jpg http://a.imageshack.us/img816/9392/44stadiumtribuneprincip.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img713/3627/193812copie.jpghttp://a.imageshack.us/img189/5315/19381copie.jpghttp://a.imageshack.us/img546/2554/193817copie.jpg
http://a.imageshack.us/img19/416/delsol1copie.jpghttp://a.imageshack.us/img38/8503/delsol24copie.jpghttp://a.imageshack.us/img201/7997/delsol25copie.jpg
http://a.imageshack.us/img337/7910/27stadiumespacesvipcopi.jpghttp://a.imageshack.us/img214/9807/26stadiumespacesvipcopi.jpghttp://a.imageshack.us/img141/6799/bodega14copie.jpg



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Project:
http://a.imageshack.us/img809/815/stadium20161.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img689/7996/stadium20167.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img51/6730/stadium20165.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img641/7756/stadium20163.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img39/6688/stadium20164.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img600/165/stadium20166.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img267/8779/stadium20162.jpg


More pics and renders in its thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=89105644#post89105644).

LE HAVRE 25000 seats new stadium works in progress

Thanks to coddah official site+maxxi76 from infostades.fr

http://www.agglo-lehavre.fr/Evenements/Grand_Stade/images/pano_0320d_0321d.jpg

http://www.agglo-lehavre.fr/Evenements/Grand_Stade/images/_MG_9936d.jpg

http://www.agglo-lehavre.fr/Evenements/Grand_Stade/images/_MG_0102d.jpg

http://www.agglo-lehavre.fr/Evenements/Grand_Stade/images/_MG_0118d.jpg

http://www.agglo-lehavre.fr/Evenements/Grand_Stade/images/_MG_0315d.jpg

I find the blue cladding a bit of an eyesore

by night it's beautiful :)

^^
Not only by night :) Absolutely love it!!!

The contrast with the crappy stade municipal de Toulouse is immense!

Le Havre - Ligue 2 - (25 000)

Finished : May-June 2012

http://www.info-stades.fr/forum/ligue2/le-havre-grand-stade-du-havre-t33-1305.html

And again thanks to all photographers :)

http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/2268/p23031213440001.jpg

http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/4608/p23031215030002.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ZTS9lTnKFEk/T18qzLdxJhI/AAAAAAAAAsc/EmxbUAabx6E/s640/P130312_09.330001.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-2i0xl-MvR34/T18qoAaOemI/AAAAAAAAAr8/bfjWU9V39Nc/s640/P130312_09.190002.JPG

http://www.info-stades.fr/forum/ressources/image/thumb/12014

http://www.info-stades.fr/forum/ressources/image/thumb/12020

http://www.info-stades.fr/forum/ressources/image/thumb/12012

^^ Thanks for the pics ! :cheers:
Apparently they just began installing the seats (pic #4).. Do you have some pics on which we can see what model of seats they chose ?

^^ The Box Seat, well, that's according to this site:

http://www.arenagroup.com/index.php/products/seating/the_box_seat.html

^^ Thank you very much ! :cheers:

Ahh, finally a French stadium (along with the PdP, since 40 years :bowtie:) which will be fully equipped with folding seats ... Well, better late than never, I guess... :laugh:

^^ Thanks for the pics ! :cheers:
Apparently they just began installing the seats (pic #4).. Do you have some pics on which we can see what model of seats they chose ?

Here you can find lot of pictures of the stadium works https://picasaweb.google.com/Pihlness


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-9z9-vBdjinE/T0-oUrAckvI/AAAAAAAAAf4/mSXLuiFayXc/s640/P010312_16.170001.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-sYdFQ5g3wqY/T18pa4Mc2jI/AAAAAAAAApk/M7ibmlm2jRI/s640/P130312_09.250001.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-0ZPX6LtH1rg/T18pduGXCCI/AAAAAAAAAps/SuzNa02TU4g/s640/P130312_09.250002.JPG

Le Havre stadium update, photos by phil76 from info-stades.fr :

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7077/6895822418_2a8fdf9381_c.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7051/7041919477_dbdf1dcf75_c.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7109/6895823276_290296a36a_c.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7088/6895822554_120f5e66b4_c.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7204/7041919555_fbefffbd02_c.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7047/6895822614_ed46617e9f_c.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7050/6895822704_7bc479c60d_c.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7100/6895823028_ea3cf239cb_c.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7093/6895822820_2e284d9eee_c.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7043/7041920027_573899d71a_c.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7130/7041920247_f33fd03be8_c.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7044/6895823076_7f14e31e52_c.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7218/7041920183_a0ac23ac73_c.jpg




Aerial shots by CODAH (Le Havre Metro) :

http://www.info-stades.fr/forum/ressources/image/12730

http://www.info-stades.fr/forum/ressources/image/12729

http://www.info-stades.fr/forum/ressources/image/12728

Le Havre stadium update, photos by phil76 from info-stades.fr

fantastic !!!

yes, le havre looks great :)

I think we have a contender for the best looking small european stadium award of the year! This Le Havre stadium looks great...

Re: Toulouse, wouldn't it make more sense if any money spent on it would be focused towards making the sight lines better, a la Stuttgart.

^^ In fact, the sight lines will be better, because they will rework the slope of the low stands :

Before :
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9250/planexistant.jpg

After :
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/8245/planprojet.jpg


Before :
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/250/coupeexistant.jpg

After :
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/7513/coupeprojet.jpg




But if you're referring to the stands behind the goals, sure it would have been better if they were closer to the field. But it would have required more important (and more expensive) works, and I'm not sure the city of Toulouse was ready to put more money into this renovation, while the latest works were in 2001 :dunno:

while the latest works were in 2001 2006

fixed for you ! ;)

cardete-huet.com/fr/Extension-du-Stadium-de-Toulouse (http://www.cardete-huet.com/fr/references/sport/162-extension-du-stadium-de-toulouse)


(not to mention the new seats in 2008-2009)

Thanks for the accuracy !! :)


(wow, 5h34 du matin, ne dors-tu jamais mon cher pdp ??? :D)

5h34 du matin, ne dors-tu jamais mon cher pdp ??? :D

Sais-tu que la terre est ronde et qu'elle tourne sur elle-même ??? ;)
Bon, sinon pour te répondre: Oui ça m'arrive de dormir.. mais vraiment très rarement car nous les Cylon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cylon_(reimagining)#Humanoid_Cylons) nous dormons peu, voire pas du tout pour certains d'entre nous. :angel:

Bon, sinon pour te répondre: Oui ça m'arrive de dormir.. mais vraiment très rarement car nous les cylons nous dormons peu, voire pas du tout pour certains d'entre nous. :angel:

Ah dommage, je te voyais plus en robot veillant sur l'humanité depuis 5000 ans (facon Asimov). Cependant, comme j'apprécie ton apport à ce forum, je ne te dénoncerai pas à l'amiral Adama (pas cette fois-ci en tout cas). Tu as de la chance que cet échange soit privé.

PS : Ah mince, en fait on est sur le forum international... Eh bien espérons que les autres utilisateurs soient aussi indulgents que moi :angel:

Eh bien espérons que les autres utilisateurs soient aussi indulgents que moi :angel:

Anyway... bear in mind that all this has happened before & will happen again.

:devil:

Le Havre is just...wow.

Anyway... bear in mind that all this has happened before & will happen again.

:devil:

some of us are pure frakkin' nerds! I'm digging this!

Progress of construction of the new Stade Jean Bouin in Paris (March 2012).

Location: Paris, Ile de France
Name: Stade Jean Bouin (Reconstruction)
Tenant: Stade-Français Paris, Rugby
Capacity: 20,000 seats (51 suites)
Opening: March 2013 (under construction)
Architects: Agence Rudy Ricciotti, Lamoureux & Ricciotti, BERIM, Thermibel, jointly with the CSTB (expertise & study)
Cost: €169M (100% Public: City of Paris)
7,400m² of commercial/entertainment areas + 1,000m² of office spaces inside the stadium
Renewable energy (photovoltaic cells: 2,800m²)
Rainwater collection system


Project:

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Construction:
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^^ Hmmm, same situation they have in Lille, in that the exterior cladding doesn't fully protect the concourse areas from the elements?

A forumer (B.Vogel) has created yesterday a petition to back & save the beautiful ARENA 92 project which is in big danger owing to some damned nimbies association called ACRI LIBERTE...

Please sign it & spread the word around you!!!

SIGN HERE (http://www.petitions24.net/oui_au_stade_arena_92_a_nanterre)

Reminder:

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Le Havre stadium update, photos by phil76 from info-stades.fr :

http://www.info-stades.fr/forum/ressources/image/thumb/13930

http://www.info-stades.fr/forum/ressources/image/thumb/13931

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Beautiful stadium for le Havre, really, and stade Jean Bouin is in the same way too.

Beautiful stadium for le Havre, really, and stade Jean Bouin is in the same way too.

Yeah will be best stadium in french 3rd league next year.

Other pics for Le Havre Arena :)
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The stadium of Le Havre looks really nice !!!

Awesome giant pillow! I always like a bit of innovation. :P

You can make the virtual tour here:

http://www.agglo-lehavre.fr/delia-CMS/projets/all-1/article_id-664/article_principal_id-/folder_id-/topic_id-119/visite-virtuelle.html

Awesome giant pillow! I always like a bit of innovation. :P

Not to mention this (I really like the idea) :D:

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lol! - you frenchies !

il parait plus grand que le stade de Lille / It looks bigger tan the Lille stadium

:lol: rubbish!

In any case it could looks bigger than a 50k. Wait for the seats at lille one and you'll see the difference.

Lighting (from phil76 of infostades.fr+facebook of le grand stade du havre)

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Things are getting worse & worse for the ARENA92 project in La Défense. Indeed, after the ACRI-LIBERTE association, another one is about to appeal against the new stadium in Nanterre. The association (called GAP) points at the noise that such a project will involve both in & out of the stadium...

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If you guys like ARENA92, please back it by signing the following petition ---> HERE (http://www.petitions24.net/oui_au_stade_arena_92_a_nanterre)

Thank you...






ps: I really like Le Havre's new stadium, it looks great.

Official pics


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Progress of construction of the new Stade Jean Bouin in Paris (pics taken yesterday by pityspitz, member of PSS forum).

Location: Paris, Ile de France
Name: Stade Jean Bouin (Reconstruction)
Tenant: Stade-Français Paris, Rugby
Capacity: 20,000 seats (51 suites)
Opening: March 2013 (under construction)
Architects: Agence Rudy Ricciotti, Lamoureux & Ricciotti, BERIM, Thermibel, jointly with the CSTB (expertise & study)
Cost: €169M (100% Public: City of Paris)
7,400m² of commercial/entertainment areas + 1,000m² of office spaces inside the stadium
Renewable energy (photovoltaic cells: 2,800m²)
Rainwater collection system


Project:

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Construction:
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Le havre grand stade official facebook pics:

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beautiful stadium

Le Havre Stadium construction update, pics by Le Havre Agglomeration community (CODAH) :


http://www.agglo-lehavre.fr/Evenements/Grand_Stade/images/DSC_7342.jpg

http://www.agglo-lehavre.fr/Evenements/Grand_Stade/images/DSC_7357.jpg

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Pics by phil76 from info-stades.fr :

http://www.info-stades.fr/forum/ressources/image/thumb/14757

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wonderful stadium :cheers:

Progress of construction of the new Stade Jean Bouin in Paris (spring 2012).

Location: Paris, Ile de France
Name: Stade Jean Bouin (Reconstruction)
Tenant: Stade-Français Paris, Rugby
Capacity: 20,000 seats (51 suites)
Opening: March 2013 (under construction)
Architects: Agence Rudy Ricciotti, Lamoureux & Ricciotti, BERIM, Thermibel, jointly with the CSTB (expertise & study)
Cost: €169M (100% Public: City of Paris)
7,400m² of commercial/entertainment areas + 1,000m² of office spaces inside the stadium
Renewable energy (photovoltaic cells: 2,800m²)
Rainwater collection system


Project:

http://imageshack.us/a/img841/367/14927copie.jpghttp://imageshack.us/a/img850/345/8943copie.jpg

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4020/01agencerudyricciottico.jpg

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Construction:

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Ah, so yet another new stadium in France that doesn't fully protect the concourse area from the elements.

^^ While posting these pics, I was pretty sure that you (RMB2007) will quote this one specifically and you'll make such a comment :|.

:D

Maybe it's the compromise the new stadiums in Paris and Lille have needed to make in order to afford better seats. :D

Ah, so yet another new stadium in France that doesn't fully protect the concourse area from the elements.

Lille isn't that bad

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OK, apparently it's official: The PSG owners have decided to stay at the Parc des Princes ! The new stadium option as well as the Stade de France option would have been dropped.

PSG plays the Parc card
18.05.2012

No more doubt possible: the Paris SG owners decided to link their future to the Parc de Princes. But there are still negotiations to be conducted with partners (Colony Capital & Vinci Construction) and the City of Paris.

It is a choice dictated by history as much as by reason. Reportedly, The leadership of Paris Saint-Germain has decided to settle permanently at the Parc des Princes. The other possible leads, including a definitive move to the Stade de France, have been mothballed. The owners of the capital city club now consider that a renovated Parc des Princes as part of Euro 2016, with 50,000 seats and about sixty suites, is a viable economic model.
The decision to stay at the Parc des Princes where PSG evolving since 1974, is provided conditional upon the outcome of negotiations taking place in secret between the different actors of the file.
[...]
LeParisien.fr (http://www.leparisien.fr/psg-foot-paris-saint-germain/le-psg-joue-la-carte-du-parc-18-05-2012-2005678.php) (google translate)

Finally they come to their senses! Now they can move on and start renovating the stadium! 60 corporate suites sounds like a decent number, I hope the number of food concession will be quadrupled too and other amenities will get a complete revamp too!

Note to future clients of the Parc des Princes: you'll have to choose between your kids higher education or season ticket passes, as both will become extremely pricey in a very near future!!!

Again it's not an official confirmation.
none renders, none official annoucement from the club :dunno:

I'm very surprised that some members who like to criticize le10sport and all others paper or websites choose this way to confirm an unofficial information.

very strange... The fear to see PSG leaving this stadium? perhaps

^^ BTW Axel, I just read that the naming rights deal with Allianz at Nice is not official either, since the Municipality and Allianz-France have refused to confirm this news.

Just a silly question not related with the stadium's proper..
why Montpellier which is about to be crowned tonight as Champion of France has such a low attendance? Only 50% of the stadium has been filled 17,492 (out of 33.000).
The maximum attendance was recorded against Lille 27,649 and OM 26,241.
Curiously the average attendance is about the same like in the previous years: 16.478 (2010/2011; 14th place); 17,981 (2009/2010; 5th place). Normally a team that jumps from a mediocre behavior to the Championship title should increase the interest of the fans..

Several explanations can be made:

1) The Stade de la Mosson is unwelcoming and uncomfortable
2) It is not easily accessible by transport (whether by public transport or car)
3) There is strong competition from other sports in the city: the handball team is french champion this year again, the rugby league team was championship finalist last year, not to mention water polo, women's basketball all in the first division.
4) Historically, the MHSC is not very important in the city, and the Montpellierains prefer support greatest clubs like Marseille or Nimes.

For the first 2 points, it should get better in the coming years with a project of renovation of the stadium and improvement of its accessibility : http://www.midilibre.fr/2011/12/19/50-meur-pour-mettre-un-toit-sur-la-mosson,432925.php (french)

the true is montpellier is a "bug" in L1 championship!

They don't have a fellow public and they win this title because others were playing europa & champions league matches.

Next season you'll see how weak is this team when Real,Juve,Milan,Manchester,Munich will play them.

A shame for France :ohno:

the true is montpellier is a "bug" in L1 championship!

They don't have a fellow public and they win this title because others were playing europa & champions league matches.

Next season you'll see how weak is this team when Real,Juve,Milan,Manchester,Munich will play them.

A shame for France :ohno:

Well since Belhanda and Giroud are probably leaving that will make them look very weak regardless of who they play.

Actually, the stadium is located in the dangerous outskirts of the city so people just dont want to spend their saturday night there, especially in such a vibrant student city, which could be branded the "southern france newcastle", with clubs and good looking girls at every corner. As simple as that.
The "too much sports" in montpellier explanation is just a joke.

It is normal, people dont like to try an unpleasant experience in the city outskirts, even for their lovely football team..
But I thought that only Paris and Marseille have dangerous outskirts full with africans, arabs. I didnt know that a small and peacefull city like Montpellier could have such a problem.
maybe is better to schedule the Ligue games in the afternoon especially where the stadium is located in risky locations.

I agree on the games scheduled in afternoon, especially in winter. I don't know if you 've been to Montpellier but it 's a beautiful and hectic city, with plenty of things to do, so the night fixtures are a complete nonsense to me. Actually, the neighborhood is not that dangerous, but, compared to the lavish city centre, it looks like a grotty communist brutalist style bunch of concrete, which explains why the attendence is still faithfull but not very numerous.

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But I thought that only Paris and Marseille have dangerous outskirts full with africans, arabs.

France is invaded by gipsies you forgot. They come from your country no?

It is normal, people dont like to try an unpleasant experience in the city outskirts, even for their lovely football team..
But I thought that only Paris and Marseille have dangerous outskirts full with africans, arabs. I didnt know that a small and peacefull city like Montpellier could have such a problem.
maybe is better to schedule the Ligue games in the afternoon especially where the stadium is located in risky locations.



Ok first I'm shocked by some of the words I read above! This is just racism!

Second not knowing the real situation in a city and relying on one sole comment proves a form of borderline idiocy which doesn't excuse the above words nonetheless.

Things you have to know about Montpellier, it's a student city, it's the most athletic/sports friendly city per capita in France, The Football club as to face fierce competition from a handball club and a rugby club that both enjoy pretty much state of the art facilites! The football club is not located in a outrageously dangerous area of town, however yes it is an innercity and due to less than average city transit system and lack of parking areas, most casual football goers don't go to that stadium!
The stadium amenities leave a lot to be desired, there's nothing there worth mentioning and the club does nothing to improve the gameday experience! Even their president said it, he has to go games but sometimes he'd happily skip going. That says it all. As a result that stadium was not picked by the national committee in charge of the 2016 Euro! The metro decided recently to thoroughly refurbish the stadium and will start by changing all seats inside for the next season and is going to work on a parkade around the stadium and possibly in a more distant future on adding a tramway/bus station closer to the stadium to facilitate access to it! The city will spend around 50M on the refurbishment!

France is invaded by gipsies you forgot. They come from your country no?

Gipsies don't know where they come from, nor where they are going, but it 's not an immigration policy thread. Only stadiums.

Ok first I'm shocked by some of the words I read above! This is just racism!

Second not knowing the real situation in a city and relying on one sole comment proves a form of borderline idiocy which doesn't excuse the above words nonetheless.

Things you have to know about Montpellier, it's a student city, it's the most athletic/sports friendly city per capita in France, The Football club as to face fierce competition from a handball club and a rugby club that both enjoy pretty much state of the art facilites! The football club is not located in a outrageously dangerous area of town, however yes it is an innercity and due to less than average city transit system and lack of parking areas, most casual football goers don't go to that stadium!
The stadium amenities leave a lot to be desired, there's nothing there worth mentioning and the club does nothing to improve the gameday experience! Even their president said it, he has to go games but sometimes he'd happily skip going. That says it all. As a result that stadium was not picked by the national committee in charge of the 2016 Euro! The metro decided recently to thoroughly refurbish the stadium and will start by changing all seats inside for the next season and is going to work on a parkade around the stadium and possibly in a more distant future on adding a tramway/bus station closer to the stadium to facilitate access to it! The city will spend around 50M on the refurbishment!

The aim of my post was not to abuse some of my fellows of algerian ascent or to bring some bigotry on this topic. I just wanted to mention that it is not the city's most attractive area for sports or entertainment in general.
BTW, the regular Handball venue can host 3000 spectators. It can't be regarded as a serious rival for local football team.

^^ ignore that. He was talking about alwn.

Actually, the stadium is located in the dangerous outskirts of the city so people just dont want to spend their saturday night there, especially in such a vibrant student city, which could be branded the "southern france newcastle", with clubs and good looking girls at every corner. As simple as that.
The "too much sports" in montpellier explanation is just a joke.

Answer this instead, to which Newcastle do you refer? The one in England or the one in Australia, because I can't imagine what you've said to square up with the English town :lol:

guys do we have a thread for the stadium in montpeliier?

^^ ignore that. He was talking about alwn.



Answer this instead, to which Newcastle do you refer? The one in England or the one in Australia, because I can't imagine what you've said to square up with the English town :lol:

I was refering to the north east england town, with many listed buildings and huge drink culture

The "too much sports" in montpellier explanation is just a joke.

As said by Neda Say, Montpellier is the most sports city per capita in France.
The handball team bring 9,000 spectators for the Champions League games, the rugby team 15,000 every 2 weeks, not to mention the big games, as last year Top14 final when about 25,000 MHR fans went to support their team at the Stade de France.
So, yes, the "too much sport in Montpellier" explanation is serious.

guys do we have a thread for the stadium in montpeliier?

Didn't find an existing thread so I've created a new one : http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1515396

thanks

France is invaded by gipsies you forgot. They come from your country no?

My dear friend,

Actually gypsies are originally from India so sometimes we call them "indians".
They came crossing the Otoman Empire in several waves finally establishing mainly in eastern Europe. Malheureusement many of them had decided to establish in my country.. Some pessimistic reports indicate even a figure up to 3 million (out of 20, total population of Romania). However also in the neighboring countries are plenty of gypsy (e.g. Slovakia, Bulgaria, Hungary). Only Poland doesn't have. I know that usually in western countries they are associated with romanians. However the big confusion came from the official name which is not "gypsy" as would be natural but "Roma people". Many people just confusing “Roma people” with “Romanians. It is not uncommon, ignorants are everywhere, even in Romania some stupid people consider France as being inhabited only by Africans or Arabs. I even had to argue sometimes, stupid people watching the France National football team in the World Cup thought that France is non European... What to say, people don’t like to learn Geography nowadays..

Again with these stupid accusation of "racism".. I'm really already tired of this off topic. If I pronounce the word "African" or "African people" for some guys It looks like a "racism". Ok but how to call the people originally from Africa if we are not allowed to use the official name of the continent?? People from the black continent or people from the tropics? So please cut off with this and focus on stadiums development.


Btw how come you can post off topics related with “gypsies” and nobody accuse you of "racism"? If you really want to be politically correct you have to call them "romani people" as the word "gypsy" is considered to have pejorative connotations..

My dear friend...

Please don't be so presumptuous, in any case this is a thread about stadiums not the racial theories of 30 million Gypsies from a former communist backwater. It wasn't long ago you were calling people monkeys on this forum (I assume you have an infraction), we know what you're about, being subtle isn't going to change that.

I was refering to the north east england town, with many listed buildings and huge drink culture

Montpellier should aim it's branding ambitions a tad bit higher me thinks. :cheers:

When you engage with idiots and haters, please don't quote their posts because some of them already have them on our ignore list for a reason. :lol:

My dear friend,

Actually gypsies are originally from India so sometimes we call them "indians".
They came crossing the Otoman Empire in several waves finally establishing mainly in eastern Europe. Malheureusement many of them had decided to establish in my country.. Some pessimistic reports indicate even a figure up to 3 million (out of 20, total population of Romania). However also in the neighboring countries are plenty of gypsy (e.g. Slovakia, Bulgaria, Hungary). Only Poland doesn't have. I know that usually in western countries they are associated with romanians. However the big confusion came from the official name which is not "gypsy" as would be natural but "Roma people". Many people just confusing “Roma people” with “Romanians. It is not uncommon, ignorants are everywhere, even in Romania some stupid people consider France as being inhabited only by Africans or Arabs. I even had to argue sometimes, stupid people watching the France National football team in the World Cup thought that France is non European... What to say, people don’t like to learn Geography nowadays..

Again with these stupid accusation of "racism".. I'm really already tired of this off topic. If I pronounce the word "African" or "African people" for some guys It looks like a "racism". Ok but how to call the people originally from Africa if we are not allowed to use the official name of the continent?? People from the black continent or people from the tropics? So please cut off with this and focus on stadiums development.


Btw how come you can post off topics related with “gypsies” and nobody accuse you of "racism"? If you really want to be politically correct you have to call them "romani people" as the word "gypsy" is considered to have pejorative connotations..

You better watch what you write then! Cause you associated words that made your comment a racist! One, you can spin anyway you like it won't change a thing! Yes, the other guy comments was equally racist as far as I'm concern. Knowing the guy a little more than you do, I'm not too surprised by his reaction!

Now you mentioned that you were already getting tired of this thread! Then I'll advise leaving it!

thanks

thanks for creating a new thread!

You are free to open new threads :)
Stadiums has to be over 30,000 and arenas over 10,000. :)

Stade du Havre, Le Havre

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As said by Neda Say, Montpellier is the most sports city per capita in France.
The handball team bring 9,000 spectators for the Champions League games, the rugby team 15,000 every 2 weeks, not to mention the big games, as last year Top14 final when about 25,000 MHR fans went to support their team at the Stade de France.
So, yes, the "too much sport in Montpellier" explanation is serious.

As you said, the brand new rugby stadium brings decent crowds every two weeks in a city that as not a long established history in that sport. So why it does not work in football? Precisely because the MHSC does not enjoy the same attractive facilities. I did not say the wide range of sports available in the city is not a valid reason, but as far as i know, handball, basketball or volleyball are not the most popular games in the country or even at a european level in order to be a threat for the most watched game worldwide. In its glory days, nantes, which is comparable by its size, was bringinq 35 000 spectators every week.

montpellier is a 'bug' like i said

soon as they return to 10th rank public will disappear.

They are not a city of football and trust me when barcelona or madrid will put them 8-0 in their face you won'tt hear about this team during 5 years.

As you said, the brand new rugby stadium brings decent crowds every two weeks in a city that as not a long established history in that sport. So why it does not work in football? Precisely because the MHSC does not enjoy the same attractive facilities. I did not say the wide range of sports available in the city is not a valid reason, but as far as i know, handball, basketball or volleyball are not the most popular games in the country or even at a european level in order to be a threat for the most watched game worldwide. In its glory days, nantes, which is comparable by its size, was bringinq 35 000 spectators every week.

Okay, I understand your point of view.
My opinion is that it was difficult to retain an audience because the success of the MHSC is recent (don't forget that they were in the 2nd division only 4 years ago), and at the same time, the handball team is currently one of the best European teams and the rugby team begin to be regular at the top French and European level.
I'll add that after the disastrous 2010 World Cup of the french team, football has become less popular in our country, precisely at the expense of handball (4 international titles in a row for the national team recently) and rugby (World Cup final the last year).

In view of its various elements, it is understandable that the MHSC didn't attract many fans this year.

But let's see next year, I hope they managed to retain an audience with this title, and a good run of the France team to the Euro could still fix things.

I don't understand the negativity, the Montpelier story is an upbeat one to be celebrated by the neutral :dunno:

So why it does not work in football? Precisely because the MHSC does not enjoy the same attractive facilities.

I don't think so.
For example 15 years ago, Stade de la Mosson was not bad at all by European standards, and guess what ? It was empty (I remember very well).

Anyway, what I mean is, to me the main reason for the low attendance figures in Montpellier is the very poor football culture over there (unlike e.g. in Nantes you mentioned above). Montpellier, just like Toulouse, is not a footy city, as simple as that and a new stadium (or whatever) will not change this fact.
BTW, being a student city (just like Toulouse) doesn't help, since those students don't/won't support the local team but the team of their regions of origin.
Another important point is that Montpellier is quite a wealthy city where the upper-class represents more than a significant part of the population... and as you already know I presume, the overwhelming majority of upper-class people in France are not interested in football at all, and those who are interested in sports, tend to prefer rugby generally.

The Le Havre Stadium reminds me a lot of Reading FC's Madjeski Stadium if it had a complete row of boxes circling the entire ground.

I don't understand the negativity, the Montpelier story is an upbeat one to be celebrated by the neutral :dunno:

^^ It's only the view of Axel. Personally, I find that this title is well deserved (this is the best point total in Ligue 1 from Lyon in 2005). It's good to see that this is not the money that matters most, and with good management and a good spirit you can make beautiful things.

When to know what they will do next year in the Champions league, I will not comment on the predictions of some persons...

again ther best total point ok but lyon did this by playing CL in the same time.

montpellier don't play every 3 days. It is an overrated team which don't know what high level is.

I mean Madrid,Barcelona,Milan,manchester

Every others top french teams know what is to play old trafford or san siro (marseille,lille) camp nou or bernabeu(Lyon) allianz, turin (bordeaux)

Our uefa rank will fall again :ohno: