Auckland====>Christchurch

[eighty4]

Hi. I've been living in auckland nearly 2 years now and over the past few months me and the girlfriend are getting really sick of the place :ohno: for a number of reasons.

Our 1st thought was to move to wellington but after visiting there last year we were both put off. We have both been to christchurch and love the place. We're going there in 3 weeks for a tattoo festival i cant wait .

We're condifering moving down there next year, both our work places have said we can easily transfer down there so that side of things is ok

What areas of Christchurch do you people do/not recommend to live in ?

Ive seen loads of pictures of the place and not one places ive seen so far looks rough , unlike Auckland lol

Are they any people from Auckland that made the move to christchurch on here ? Id be interested to hear you opinion, as i've heard the place is really quite. I also heard its really nice to visit but kinda boring to live in.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks

[Svartmetall]

I wouldn't say that Chch is free from crime - racially motivated crime is higher there than in Auckland according to stats so I'd not go in with rose tinted glasses. Of course, every city has rough areas, all that matters is how pervasive they are and how "rough" is "rough". ;)

As for the city itself, I can't comment personally. The girlfriends family have been there and they really like most of the city centre, but they do say that the suburbs are not quite as nice as the nice suburbs in Auckland. Arterial roads are something that NZ suffers with as all of them tend to be ugly, and Chch seems to be no different from listening to their comments.

As for "boring". I'd imagine that the general rule is that "smaller = less". Mind you, in saying that, I found more to do in Northampton than I do in Auckland so I guess it is all totally subjective! :lol:

Anyway, whatever you decide, good luck to you! :)

[eighty4]

I wouldn't say that Chch is free from crime - racially motivated crime is higher there than in Auckland according to stats so I'd not go in with rose tinted glasses. Of course, every city has rough areas, all that matters is how pervasive they are and how "rough" is "rough". ;)

As for "boring". I'd imagine that the general rule is that "smaller = less". Mind you, in saying that, I found more to do in Northampton than I do in Auckland so I guess it is all totally subjective! :lol:




yeah i dont tend to belive stats all that much, i think they can be easily fabricated by a place to make it sound better or worse

Sheffield is smaller than auckland but its still better even though it doesnt have a beach or anything lol although i wouldnt live there anymore :)

[Svartmetall]

Out of interest, why wouldn't you live in Sheffield again? In my brief time there (I mean very brief) it seemed really nice and my Mother has nothing bad to say about the place too.

[eighty4]

Out of interest, why wouldn't you live in Sheffield again? In my brief time there (I mean very brief) it seemed really nice and my Mother has nothing bad to say about the place too.

it is a nice place and its suppossed to be the safest uk city (according to statistics :lol:) and its going to look great once its completed, its basically a building site at the moment and has been since about 1990

maybe i shouldve been less specific and said i wouldnt live in england anymore lol

so is there any mainlanders/christchurchians* out there

*its a real word :)

[Cartel]

I say go for it. It's a city with limitless possibilities. It's treated me well and it's a beautiful place couldn't ask for much more. If you find the place boring then you're definitely running with the wrong circle.

[Blah]

Hi. I've been living in auckland nearly 2 years now and over the past few months me and the girlfriend are getting really sick of the place :ohno: for a number of reasons.

Our 1st thought was to move to wellington but after visiting there last year we were both put off. We have both been to christchurch and love the place. We're going there in 3 weeks for a tattoo festival i cant wait .

We're condifering moving down there next year, both our work places have said we can easily transfer down there so that side of things is ok

What areas of Christchurch do you people do/not recommend to live in ?

Ive seen loads of pictures of the place and not one places ive seen so far looks rough , unlike Auckland lol

Are they any people from Auckland that made the move to christchurch on here ? Id be interested to hear you opinion, as i've heard the place is really quite. I also heard its really nice to visit but kinda boring to live in.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks

Looking at your signature it seems you have trouble staying in any place for long. What are you after in a city?

[flyin_higher]

Chch is nice, I could live there. But would be concerned about cold winter weather, esp. as i am a cyclist etc.
For places to live, from my best knowledge, would be the Port Hills or anywhere in the North-West of the city. Altho I saw some nice houses/neighbourhoods along the entire length of the Avon going from the CBD out toward New Brighton.

[Milan Luka]

Go for it mate. Nothing to lose. Yeah its smaller than Akl but what you lose there you gain in other areas. Easier to get around, cheaper housing etc's. Of course the city has nightlife- there are different things to do. Today there was a rave in Hagley Park and afterwards you could've gone to the trans tasman lawn bowls champs! If you are only into Dutch Gabba Rotterdam techno you might not like the scene. There are plenty many decent places to spend on booze and a good night out but.
Thing I like most is that it is so easy to get outta town if you want. No hassle to get to the mountains, Hamner, Kaikoura, Banks Pen etc etc.
Course the city has dodge areas. I personally avoid Hereford Street on the blocks from Barbadoes to Stanmore (get a map). Never had any unsavoury 'trouble' in my 8 years here and dont worry Im out and about downtown all the times and at all hours. The suburbs that dont get favourable press are either East of the central city; Linwood, Aranui, Wainoni. Or our version of Henderson- way out west in Hornby. Ones that are slightly dodge but on the up (therefore good rents) are Brighton, Addington and Sydenham.
If your work is willing to help out then why not give it a shot. Winter's a bummer sometimes but the city is so fucking beautiful in winter IMO if thats any consilation.

Hope that helps.

[eighty4]

Looking at your signature it seems you have trouble staying in any place for long. What are you after in a city?

when i lived in oz i was only there a year but i lived in each of those places at least a month, i tried settling in all of them but found sydney was the only place i would want to live in.

TBH i dont know exactly what i want out of a city but Auckland certainly hasnt got it.

[Davee]

Not that I'm one eyed :crazy:or anything like that......


Christchurch is Fantatsic!!!

Four Seasons, Mountatins, Sea, the Canterbury Plains, Excellent Lifestyle, International Airport, Port, Capital of the South Island, good eating, good nightlife, theatre, opera, music of all types, museums, art galleries, history, 2 universties, good schools, gardens, parklands, development, revitalisation...so much going on...so much to do....so much to see. Lots of people from Auckland have moved or are in the process of moving down to CHC. It's just a very different place to AKL, not better, not worse, just very different with a pace of life and lifestyle that many people from all over the world want.

Come and be a part of it. I can't wait to come home to live :banana:

[eighty4]

Not that I'm one eyed :crazy:or anything like that......


Christchurch is Fantatsic!!!

Four Seasons, Mountatins, Sea, the Canterbury Plains, Excellent Lifestyle, International Airport, Port, Capital of the South Island, good eating, good nightlife, theatre, opera, music of all types, museums, art galleries, history, 2 universties, good schools, gardens, parklands, development, revitalisation...so much going on...so much to do....so much to see. Lots of people from Auckland have moved or are in the process of moving down to CHC. It's just a very different place to AKL, not better, not worse, just very different with a pace of life and lifestyle that many people from all over the world want.

Come and be a part of it. I can't wait to come home to live :banana:

I work with someone from chch and he never says anything negative about the place lol my girlfriend says opawa looks nice and there's good schools there, would you say thats right ?

how come you're living in watford of all places ? lol have you got family there ?

[Svartmetall]

Not that I'm one eyed :crazy:or anything like that......


Christchurch is Fantatsic!!!

Four Seasons, Mountatins, Sea, the Canterbury Plains, Excellent Lifestyle, International Airport, Port, Capital of the South Island, good eating, good nightlife, theatre, opera, music of all types, museums, art galleries, history, 2 universties, good schools, gardens, parklands, development, revitalisation...so much going on...so much to do....so much to see. Lots of people from Auckland have moved or are in the process of moving down to CHC. It's just a very different place to AKL, not better, not worse, just very different with a pace of life and lifestyle that many people from all over the world want.

Come and be a part of it. I can't wait to come home to live :banana:

Haha! There is no place like home, eh Davee? Are you actually coming back here to live then? If so we might pass each other in the air as I still plan to move back to England in the next few years. :)

[Such Great Heights]

Being the same age as you, having lived in Chch for four years and having been to Auckland heaps maybe I could be of help. I'll just make a few points:

Things to do: Definitely less concerts if thats your thing but the big bands still seem to go. The lanes area is obviously an up and coming place for young people to go. Skiing, snowboarding, mountain biking is more accessible.

Winter: Sure it gets cold but get a heat pump and some warm clothes and you'll soon get over it and might even enjoy the once a year snow.

Traffic: Has its problems but is obviously better than Auckland.

Development: Cant compete with Auckland but has its fair share and anyway whats SSC for!

[Cartel]

Things to do: Definitely less concerts if thats your thing but the big bands still seem to go. The lanes area is obviously an up and coming place for young people to go. Skiing, snowboarding, mountain biking is more accessible.


Surely it depends on what you're in to.. CHCH has the 3rd biggest Drum n Bass scene in the world, pulling the best of the best every other week, for example last saturday we had Andy C & MC GQ, the saturday before Teebee, TC, Logistics, Calyx...:cheers: I do however feel sorry for all the people that have to fly up to Auckland to see Justin Timberlake, Fergie and the likes:P

[minimum chips]

Does Bon Jovi seal the deal for ya? Im excited!

[Such Great Heights]

Surely it depends on what you're in to.. CHCH has the 3rd biggest Drum n Bass scene in the world, pulling the best of the best every other week, for example last saturday we had Andy C & MC GQ, the saturday before Teebee, TC, Logistics, Calyx...:cheers: I do however feel sorry for all the people that have to fly up to Auckland to see Justin Timberlake, Fergie and the likes:P

Wow! Andy C & MC GQ!! :lol: Sorry just Joshin you. Yes it does depend on what your into, but I think its still safe to say that Auckland has more concerts.

P.s. I hope your not hinting that I like Justin, Fergie and the likes :lol: although she is HOT.

[Cartel]

Wow! Andy C & MC GQ!! :lol: Sorry just Joshin you. Yes it does depend on what your into, but I think its still safe to say that Auckland has more concerts.

P.s. I hope your not hinting that I like Justin, Fergie and the likes :lol: although she is HOT.

lol oi! Of course Auckland has more concerts (apart from DNB), it's all relative to its size. That can't really be the desicive factor in staying there though?
I wasn't hinting at you, just saying Auckland does seem to pull those type of 'big' acts. Fergie? Hot? :poke:

[Such Great Heights]

lol oi! Of course Auckland has more concerts (apart from DNB), it's all relative to its size. That can't really be the desicive factor in staying there though?
I wasn't hinting at you, just saying Auckland does seem to pull those type of 'big' acts. Fergie? Hot? :poke:

Yeah I think shes real Hot :banana2::carrot: (I'm the banana shes the carrot - use your imagination). But opening for The Police? Thats an odd combination. Re concerts: I didn't intend it to be a decisive factor just one of my four points.

[eighty4]

thanks for all the info fella's

although i dont like drum n bass or fergie and i absolutly HATE justin timeberlake :lol:

i feel a lot more at ease about moving there now, having spoken to someone who's from there quite a lot since i started this thread

hopefully this time next year ill be there

[SYDNEY]

It will be good to have a keen photographer there, you can keep us informed and provide us with some CHC eye-candy ;)

[minimum chips]

To sum it up Christchurch really has a good quality of life. Its easy to live here, easy to get around, people are decent, plenty of nice areas to live, heaps of cool things to do in your free time. Every city has crap as does Christchurch too- theres not enough of that to detract from the good though. Im sure you guys will enjoy it, even though youve been here before why not spend a long weekend down here sometime this year just to make sure you havent remembered the place too favourably?

[eighty4]

To sum it up Christchurch really has a good quality of life. Its easy to live here, easy to get around, people are decent, plenty of nice areas to live, heaps of cool things to do in your free time. Every city has crap as does Christchurch too- theres not enough of that to detract from the good though. Im sure you guys will enjoy it, even though youve been here before why not spend a long weekend down here sometime this year just to make sure you havent remembered the place too favourably?

I'm going to christchurch on the 8-11th of feb to go to a tattoo festival i cant wait to see the place again :)

[eighty4]

It will be good to have a keen photographer there, you can keep us informed and provide us with some CHC eye-candy ;)

yep, im in dire need of inspiration so ill be making a chch thread when i get there

Im still taking pictures in auckland i just cant be bothered posting them on here anymore as it takes ages to upload them to photobucket :ohno:

[SYDNEY]

yep, im in dire need of inspiration so ill be making a chch thread when i get there

Im still taking pictures in auckland i just cant be bothered posting them on here anymore as it takes ages to upload them to photobucket :ohno:

Lazy Boy :) ... keep your hand off snakey and on the keyboard ;)

[eighty4]

^^ no snakey play lol

my upload is really bad on this conection, it takes about 40 minutes too upload 20 pics. I dont even know how to find the thread anymore as i havent posted on it for months

[eighty4]

sorry to drag up old threads here but ive spoken to a few people who say there are lots of racists in chch.

I didnt really take it that serious but it just got me thinking..........is it trueish ?

[Cartel]

^^ Yes. I have to admit Christchurch does have its fair share of racists.

[eighty4]

^^ Yes. I have to admit Christchurch does have its fair share of racists.

but more that auckland ?

[Milan Luka]

How the fuck can you compare? And what is racist? Stupid question I know but is it a maori who doesnt like tongans? Or are we only allowed to think of it as a whitey who doesnt like Indians for instance?

I have never heard anybody say anything defamatory against another race. NEVER. I cant see Chch in this light. I am not exactly your average blonde looking Kiwi and I speak with a different accent but Ive never been made to feel ostrasized. Maybe its just the people I role with.

[Davee]

sorry to drag up old threads here but ive spoken to a few people who say there are lots of racists in chch.

I didnt really take it that serious but it just got me thinking..........is it trueish ?

No more than anywhere else. In fact, I think CHC has been one of those places that has been accepting of many different people. The Press has just finished running a weeks worth of articles celebrating just the multi Pacific Island communities in Christchurch and Canterbury :) Christchurch is NOT a racist city.

[sensible]

Sensibles begginers guide to living in Chch

Crime: Over rated... suburbs to avoid would be Linwood, Phillipstown, Bromley, Aranui, Wainoni etc in the east but even these places are exagerated and even have their upmarket bits. Common sense in the CBD at night and on weekends is logical.

Weather: Spring to autumn is great. Doesnt rain much, is warm (dry not humid). Winter can get cold but do keep it in perspective. NZers tend to overdo the whole weather thing!!! Cold frosty morning do equal clear sunny days!!!

Burbs: If your rich (i.e can buy a place for at least $500 000 to $1 000 000 plus) then hill suburbs, sumner, north western suburbs are for you... if your more 'normal' (joke!)then suburbs in the north east (papanui, st albans, burwood, parklands etc) south west (barrington, halswell, beckenham etc) are great, cheaper rent/house prices, relatively crime free, have plenty of space to piss about in and yes Opawa is a fantastic place, i would love to buy a house there! If you want land then head out further (if you dont mind commuting) to other options such as Lincoln, Rolleston, kaiapoi or even rangiora, all easily accessible to the city, modern and largely urban.

Racism: I have lived all my life in Chch and have only come across mild racism once or twice. usually dickheads walking around in National Front tee shirts. Seriously though its nothing, you probably wont ever see it and most people i know from the Nth island comment on how surprised they are at the various cultures that live in chch. As chch is 87% NZ European/Pakeha it gets stereotyped by northerners as racists. Its a sham though, so keep that well in mind. 99.9% of people here are friendly and accepting of all cultures.

Nightlife: people have said plenty about it already and all i will add is that i know plenty of people from Britain, Germany, Australia and more who are always pleasantly surprised at what is offered and never fail to have a good time.

Recreation: The Port Hills, Bottle lake Forest, Waimak River, Southern Alps, Banks Peninsular, New Brighton beach, Sumner Beach, Taylors mistake, Lyttelton bays and Harbour (very underated!!!)... shit to do 'for Africa'

Roads: Not as bad as Auckland but has its snarls. Too many traffic lights but plenty of options to get from a to b. Can be frustrating though...

Public transport: Bus system is great but overall system... doesnt really exist... your stuck to buses and one ferry but its good for what it is... and very cheap and easy to use and modern. Goes everywhere every which way as well.

sooooooo....

I suggest on your visit to check out the following places... Sumner, West CBD (arts centre etc), Botanical gardens/hagley Park, Victoria Square, Lyttelton and go for a drive on the summit road over the Port Hills. These will show you what chch means to its citizens in a way that we cant describe on here....

Cheers.

[sensible]

oh yeah and i also know literally a dozen people who have moved from Auckland to Chch in the last 5-6 years... they love it, just got to give it a chance first and let it grow on you... thats what most of them said anyway. Hope that helps.

[minimum chips]

Like your summation Sensible.
Also I dont know why Christchurch is given this racist tag. Before I came here I had the impression it was full of skinheads. That must of been in the 80's or something because Ive never seen one. I dont think an Englishman such as yourself eighty4 would experience any problems. I get the impression you guys are very well represented here. In fact i think a lot of older Christchurchers still think of themselves as English/Kiwi.

[eighty4]

thanks for that sensible :)

[Davee]

Nice summary Sensible. The Historic Quartre of town (art centre, botanic gardens, museum etc), the Harbour, Alps, Port Hills, Sumner and Cathedral sum up CHC to me...

Just Love it all :banana:

[eighty4]

How the fuck can you compare? And what is racist? Stupid question I know but is it a maori who doesnt like tongans? Or are we only allowed to think of it as a whitey who doesnt like Indians for instance?

I have never heard anybody say anything defamatory against another race. NEVER. I cant see Chch in this light. I am not exactly your average blonde looking Kiwi and I speak with a different accent but Ive never been made to feel ostrasized. Maybe its just the people I role with.


As marilyn manson once sung "its a great bit white world" unfortunatly any racism towards a white person never seems to get recognised

in my opinion anyway lol

[Rooty]

We have both been to christchurch and love the place. We're going there in 3 weeks for a tattoo festival i cant wait.

I went to it on Saturday. I was shopping for someone who can design my tattoo idea because I'm just about ready to give up on designing it myself. I flicked through every booth's art showcase (which was a serious mission), and didn't have a very good time (crowded, smelly, hot - sweat was pouring off my forehead) or find anyone whose art I really liked - other than a former classmate who wasn't a tattooist and had a small nondescript booth. I couldn't see the competition good enough in the room, or on the TVs, so I left just after that started.

[eighty4]

I went to it on Saturday. I was shopping for someone who can design my tattoo idea because I'm just about ready to give up on designing it myself. I flicked through every booth's art showcase (which was a serious mission), and didn't have a very good time (crowded, smelly, hot - sweat was pouring off my forehead) or find anyone whose art I really liked - other than a former classmate who wasn't a tattooist and had a small nondescript booth. I couldn't see the competition good enough in the room, or on the TVs, so I left just after that started.

You mean you went yo SINZ ? Me and my girlfriend were there that day too lol we probably walked past you

I gotta say i love chch, i was there 3 years ago and its still as good as i remember. I definatly want to move there next year.

You realise how shit auckland is when you leave and its even worse when you come back and know you have to live here.

Ive been back an hour and i feel depressed already, i didnt want to leave chch. The people were nice it wasnt crowded like auckland, everything was much slower, i prefer it, and too my shock the nightlife was pretty active

There were harldy and maori and islanders there but loads of asian and whites, and NO SKINHEADS !

would anyone like me to stuff auckland up their arse for them ?

[Svartmetall]

^^ Each to their own. I prefer big cities so a more hectic pace doesn't necessarily bother me.

[eighty4]

i would also like to add, cheaper house rents, better public transport system, its also flat so easier to get around, unlike auckland and all its hills

akl 0
chch 3

ill think of more :lol:

[minimum chips]

Walking/biking around Christchurch is a sinch. My calf muscles have halved since I left Wellington.

[eighty4]

Walking/biking around Christchurch is a sinch. My calf muscles have halved since I left Wellington.

it must be easier on ya heart though, especially since you eat so many chips :)

[Cartel]

You mean you went yo SINZ ? Me and my girlfriend were there that day too lol we probably walked past you

I gotta say i love chch, i was there 3 years ago and its still as good as i remember. I definatly want to move there next year.

You realise how shit auckland is when you leave and its even worse when you come back and know you have to live here.

Ive been back an hour and i feel depressed already, i didnt want to leave chch. The people were nice it wasnt crowded like auckland, everything was much slower, i prefer it, and too my shock the nightlife was pretty active

There were harldy and maori and islanders there but loads of asian and whites, and NO SKINHEADS !

would anyone like me to stuff auckland up their arse for them ?

Good points, glad you liked it and good luck with the move!

[Rooty]

akl 0
chch 3

ill think of more :lol:
Did you see anything anywhere near as ghetto as the worst you've seen in Auckland? That might be your 4.

Of all the places I wouldn't want to live in NZ, Aranui is nowhere near the bottom.

[sensible]

Did you see anything anywhere near as ghetto as the worst you've seen in Auckland? That might be your 4.

Of all the places I wouldn't want to live in NZ, Aranui is nowhere near the bottom.

hahaha... but did you see the paper the other day? Some car just drove up to a house and shot at it with a .22 while a bunch of tiny wee children were playing outside nearby... they drove off and the occupants of the house got in a car with tyre braces etc and chased them... the lady with the kids was like "they think because its aranui they have a reputation to uphold... its pathetic... im moving so dont live in aranui...

i dont see how Auckland is a "big city"... its just bigger...

[eighty4]

Did you see anything anywhere near as ghetto as the worst you've seen in Auckland? That might be your 4.

Of all the places I wouldn't want to live in NZ, Aranui is nowhere near the bottom.

nope............everywhere i saw looked nice, im not saying its all nice but i certainly loved the place

so what do you look like ? i bet i saw you at the SINZ convention

[Rooty]

so what do you look like ? i bet i saw you at the SINZ convention

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[Davee]

Here. (http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g255/ImATrampoline/Other/BDD.jpg) As you can see, I have a serious case of BDD. This link will expire after a couple of days.

On the day I was wearing a black t-shirt that said "The Future is Boring" with some other smaller print.

Rooty - where the hell did you get that? If you wrote that about yourself :ohno: shame on you. If someone else did, like a cheap shot plastic surgeon he needs a good :bash:

I think you look fine!:)

[Rooty]

Rooty - where the hell did you get that? If you wrote that about yourself :ohno: shame on you.
Yes, I did that myself. It was to illustrate to another what I see when I look in the mirror.

[minimum chips]

Hey not to discredit anybody here but. I think its strange how guys also focus on our flaws which are more times than not not even noticed by anybody else. I reckon my eyebrows will take over the world. When I confided this in a special lady friend she said she had never even ever ever noticed and thought I should be more concerned about my earlobes which are attached to my head. Cruel person. I told her she had a big arse in everything she wore. Thankfully everybody laughed, we got along pretty well.

Funny how these threads can so easily go off topic.

I think though Rooty no point paying any attention to whatever you might percieve as a flaw. You might even be the ONLY person who notices it. :)

[SYDNEY]

Hey not to discredit anybody here but. I think its strange how guys also focus on our flaws which are more times than not not even noticed by anybody else. I reckon my eyebrows will take over the world. When I confided this in a special lady friend she said she had never even ever ever noticed and thought I should be more concerned about my earlobes which are attached to my head. Cruel person. I told her she had a big arse in everything she wore. Thankfully everybody laughed, we got along pretty well.

Funny how these threads can so easily go off topic.

I think though Rooty no point paying any attention to whatever you might percieve as a flaw. You might even be the ONLY person who notices it. :)

:lol: Yeah, I hate my nose, it looks like a ski-ramp and Mr KF insists on taking profile pics of me :ohno:

[eighty4]

:lol: Yeah, I hate my nose, it looks like a ski-ramp and Mr KF insists on taking profile pics of me :ohno:

there's nothing wrong with ya nose lol i used to be paranoid about my nose for years then it was the gap in my front teeth, now im kinda paranoid about my weight, but i tend to have more on my mind these days so i dont get time to fret on what i look like :)

there's probably something else that people notice that i cant see lol

[SYDNEY]

there's nothing wrong with ya nose lol i used to be paranoid about my nose for years then it was the gap in my front teeth, now im kinda paranoid about my weight, but i tend to have more on my mind these days so i dont get time to fret on what i look like :)

there's probably something else that people notice that i cant see lol

:lol: You are so skinny .... no worries there mate ... just shag a little more and you will be anorexic ;)

[eighty4]

:lol: You are so skinny .... no worries there mate ... just shag a little more and you will be anorexic ;)

nah i meant paranoid about being thin not fat lol

[SYDNEY]

nah i meant paranoid about being thin not fat lol

:lol: Sorry, I thought that you had gone mad :lol: ... here is proof, my nose is a ski ramp :lol:

http://www.pbase.com/craigsyd/image/52489794.jpg

[MonsieurAquilone]

:lol: Sorry, I thought that you had gone mad :lol: ... here is proof, my nose is a ski ramp :lol:

http://www.pbase.com/craigsyd/image/52489794.jpg


I wouldn't say that! But you've got the biceps of a Nordic skier!! :cheers:

[Kiwi_Rich]

^^

Lol - yes very handsome!

To just edge back toward topic for a second...

I think anyone would love to live in Christchurch provided they are aware of what it is and what it isn't. - If that makes sense?!

For example if one was to move to Christchurch then in six months to a years time complain about the following (which are all criticisms that could be levelled it's way...)

- Overgrown Agricultural town feel with nothing but 'rugga heads'

- Lack of skyline and commercial (i.e. office) city centre; and therefore the perception (possibly false) of the lack of a skilled jobs market...

- Flat geography

- Violence in the city centre on weekend nights

- Less of a beach culture in relation to the rest of NZ and especially OZ

- Gossiping; and therefore after a few years you will know someone that knows someone and consequently you practically know everyone in your particular age group - which can make one feel claustrophobic; others 'homely'

- Small minded edgits

(I could go on)

Then if you feel this way you possibly didn't do enough research...

But if you look past all that and see the following;

- More relaxed pace of life

- Great night life

- Beautiful parks and gardens (Christchurch for instance has more than 120 times the green-space per-person than London!)

- Friendly welcoming people

- Lovely weather all year round (providing you enjoy a proper winter!)

- Excellent recreational activities all within a mornings drive

- Well developed arts and cultural scene

- And as we can see on these forums a lot going on over the next few years...

But it does seem as though you have made your decision which is fantastic!

I love Christchurch and it will always be my home; for it's size it would have to be - and is well on it's way to becoming - one of the world's best boutique cities...

However...

Just out of curiosity - do you care to lecture me on what is so awful about Auckland?!

So many English people seem to hate it! - In fact I don't think I have ever met one with a positive thing to say about it!

Cheers :cheers:

[Cartel]

^^ I've not met anyone with one single postive thing to say about it....
Besides, "I earnt alot more in the same job". Blah. I do get alot of negative feedback from travellers and everyone else here though. In all honesty.

Sometimes the majority just rule. :cheers:

[minimum chips]

I would find it hard to believe that so many people have negative impression of Auckland or living in Auckland. My experience of the city is limited to family visits every couple of years but I could easily live there. I would certainly live there over most European cities Ive been to. It might have a harder edge and dollar doesnt stretch as far it would in other Kiwi cities. But compare it to being a young family trying to make it in somewhere like Paris or Bruxelles, these towns are beautiful and all that crap but are rife with infrastructure, fiscal mismanagement, racial problems that i doubt Auckland would ever see. But given a choice between Auckland and Christchurch I would pick Wellington. Why not consider Welllington eighty4 or has this been discussed already?

[SYDNEY]

I would find it hard to believe that so many people have negative impression of Auckland or living in Auckland. My experience of the city is limited to family visits every couple of years but I could easily live there. I would certainly live there over most European cities Ive been to. It might have a harder edge and dollar doesnt stretch as far it would in other Kiwi cities. But compare it to being a young family trying to make it in somewhere like Paris or Bruxelles, these towns are beautiful and all that crap but are rife with infrastructure, fiscal mismanagement, racial problems that i doubt Auckland would ever see. But given a choice between Auckland and Christchurch I would pick Wellington. Why not consider Welllington eighty4 or has this been discussed already?

I second that, Wellington is the most live-able city in NZ ... it offers everything and more (in my opinion anyways) ... so I also ask, have you considered that 84 ?

[eighty4]

:lol: Sorry, I thought that you had gone mad :lol: ... here is proof, my nose is a ski ramp :lol:



how long ago was that taken ? or have you grown ya hair ?

[eighty4]

I second that, Wellington is the most live-able city in NZ ... it offers everything and more (in my opinion anyways) ... so I also ask, have you considered that 84 ?

nah ive been to wellington and it didnt really float ma boat.

I never believe those "most livable city" they always seem like a marketing campaign.

"otara.....suburb of the year"

[SYDNEY]

how long ago was that taken ? or have you grown ya hair ?

That was taken before I cut my hair ..... now it is much shorter ;)


nah ive been to wellington and it didnt really float ma boat. I never believe those "most livable city" they always seem like a marketing campaign. "otara.....suburb of the year"

Most livable city in my opinion ;) .... okay, then CHC is for you :)

[eighty4]

^^


For example if one was to move to Christchurch then in six months to a years time complain about the following (which are all criticisms that could be levelled it's way...)

- Lack of skyline and commercial (i.e. office) city centre; and therefore the perception (possibly false) of the lack of a skilled jobs market...

- Flat geography

- Violence in the city centre on weekend nights

- Less of a beach culture in relation to the rest of NZ and especially OZ

- Gossiping; and therefore after a few years you will know someone that knows someone and consequently you practically know everyone in your particular age group - which can make one feel claustrophobic; others 'homely'

- Small minded edgits

(I could go on)

Then if you feel this way you possibly didn't do enough research...

But if you look past all that and see the following;

- More relaxed pace of life

- Great night life

- Beautiful parks and gardens (Christchurch for instance has more than 120 times the green-space per-person than London!)

- Friendly welcoming people

- Lovely weather all year round (providing you enjoy a proper winter!)

- Excellent recreational activities all within a mornings drive

- Well developed arts and cultural scene

- And as we can see on these forums a lot going on over the next few years...

But it does seem as though you have made your decision which is fantastic!

I love Christchurch and it will always be my home; for it's size it would have to be - and is well on it's way to becoming - one of the world's best boutique cities...

However...

Just out of curiosity - do you care to lecture me on what is so awful about Auckland?!

So many English people seem to hate it! - In fact I don't think I have ever met one with a positive thing to say about it!

Cheers :cheers:


all of the negative you listed dont bother me and i agree with all the positives

Its not just english people. I came to nz as a backpacker, i met 100s of people from all over the world but mostly europe and canada and pretty much everyone of them didnt like auckland

The thing that really shocked me was that about 90% of people that come to nz leave auckland within 7 days.

Before coming to NZ i'd never heard of auckland, but everyone back home has heard of Chch and wellington.

TBH this is the only place (if you can call a website a place) where people actually like auckland, all the people i work with and all my mates dont like it

Its really hard to say what i dont like about auckland but a lot of people, myself inclulded kinda expect more for some reason

Its like............is that it ?

im sorry to all the jafa's here i wouldnt like someone slagging off my home city but please understand that there is a huge ammount of people agree with me

[MonsieurAquilone]

I see your point. Auckland isn't currently a 'memorable' city. There is SERIOUS need for improvement. We'll try our best to appeal to you more through the development going on. :D Enjoy CHCH while you wait, though! :)

[SYDNEY]

all of the negative you listed dont bother me and i agree with all the positives

Its not just english people. I came to nz as a backpacker, i met 100s of people from all over the world but mostly europe and canada and pretty much everyone of them didnt like auckland

The thing that really shocked me was that about 90% of people that come to nz leave auckland within 7 days.

Before coming to NZ i'd never heard of auckland, but everyone back home has heard of Chch and wellington.

TBH this is the only place (if you can call a website a place) where people actually like auckland, all the people i work with and all my mates dont like it

Its really hard to say what i dont like about auckland but a lot of people, myself inclulded kinda expect more for some reason

Its like............is that it ?

im sorry to all the jafa's here i wouldnt like someone slagging off my home city but please understand that there is a huge ammount of people agree with me

Different strokes for different folks .. I have met more people that love Auckland as opposed to those that don't (I probably move in bigger circles - social butterfly of the night and early morning scene). Don't feel the need to justify your reasons for leaving. Just move and don't look back mate :) ... AKL isn't our final stop either and it looks as if Melbourne will be our home and final rest BUT for now we will make the most it - tomorrow might never come ;) ..... I am not going to justify it.

[eighty4]

Different strokes for different folks .. I have met more people that love Auckland as opposed to those that don't (I probably move in bigger circles - social butterfly of the night and early morning scene). Don't feel the need to justify your reasons for leaving. Just move and don't look back mate :) ... AKL isn't our final stop either and it looks as if Melbourne will be our home and final rest BUT for now we will make the most it - tomorrow might never come ;) ..... I am not going to justify it.

out of interest how come melbourne ? have you been there before ? I always prefered sydney to melbourne, but thats just me :)

[SYDNEY]

out of interest how come melbourne ? have you been there before ? I always prefered sydney to melbourne, but thats just me :)

On average ... 9/10 people say that Sydney is a bigger version of Auckland and that it isn't what it used to be. Apparently many gay boys are leaving Sydney for Melbourne and Melbourne is growing faster (more opportunities for me) ... besides that, Melbourne is arty, the hub of design in OZ, cultured and very European (the kind of city that we gravitate towards) .... not to mention fantastic architecture :cheers:

We haven't been to Oz but we will depart on 17 May for 4 nights in Melbourne and 3 nights in Sydney, after that short visit we should have a clearer idea of where we want to be ..... another pro for MEL is the fact that we have friends there ;) .. I can't wait to go and see it all for myself.

[eighty4]

On average ... 9/10 people say that Sydney is a bigger version of Auckland and that it isn't what it used to be. Apparently many gay boys are leaving Sydney for Melbourne and Melbourne is growing faster (more opportunities for me) ... besides that, Melbourne is arty, the hub of design in OZ, cultured and very European (the kind of city that we gravitate towards) .... not to mention fantastic architecture :cheers:

We haven't been to Oz but we will depart on 17 May for 4 nights in Melbourne and 3 nights in Sydney, after that short visit we should have a clearer idea of where we want to be ..... another pro for MEL is the fact that we have friends there ;) .. I can't wait to go and see it all for myself.

i took 1000's of pics in both cities they are both amazing, i guess sydney would be better for street life shots (i dunno why)

There is a similarty between akl and sydney but for me it pretty much ends at the fact that they both have a viewing tower lol, i prefer sydney tower's sights but the way skytower looks. I went to sydney b4 coming to akl and it seemed like a poor mans sydney, though akl has things that syd cant compete with

Melbourne has a very different feel to syd, i have a mate lives in brisbane and she said pretty much the same as you, melbourne is on the up

There's no where i can think of too recomend you to go to in mel but one place in syd ive heard about is "the rocks" ive never been there but it looks gorgeous, oh and stay away from bondi its so over rated lol

[SYDNEY]

i took 1000's of pics in both cities they are both amazing, i guess sydney would be better for street life shots (i dunno why)

There is a similarty between akl and sydney but for me it pretty much ends at the fact that they both have a viewing tower lol, i prefer sydney tower's sights but the way skytower looks. I went to sydney b4 coming to akl and it seemed like a poor mans sydney, though akl has things that syd cant compete with

Melbourne has a very different feel to syd, i have a mate lives in brisbane and she said pretty much the same as you, melbourne is on the up

There's no where i can think of too recomend you to go to in mel but one place in syd ive heard about is "the rocks" ive never been there but it looks gorgeous, oh and stay away from bondi its so over rated lol

We have bought 5 guide books for Melbourne and I think that I know it better than most Melburnians :lol: ... my friend who lives in MEL hasn't even heard of QV ... he just knows where all the pubs are ;) ... The Wallpaper guide is awesome and shows all the HOT spots ;) ... yum, yum bubblegum !

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ASIAN CITIES OF THE FUTURE' 2007 AWARD
AsiaBIZ Strategy conducted an Asia-wide survey in 2007 to rank both big and small Asian cities involving 200 over cities. Below are the results:

ASIAN CITIES OF THE FUTURE
1, Hong Kong, China
2, Singapore, Singapore
3, Taipei City, Taiwan (Republic of China)
4, Melbourne, Australia
5, Dalian, China
6, Shijiazhuang, China
7, Quezon City, Philippines
8, Cebu City, Philippines
9, Guangzhou, China
10, Davao City, Philippines

BEST ECONOMIC POTENTIAL
1, Hong Kong, China
2, Singapore, Singapore
3, Dalian, China
4, Guangzhou, China
5, Quezon City, Philippines
6, Melbourne, Australia
7, Fukuoka, Japan
8, Macau, China
9, Taipei City, Taiwan (Republic of China)
10, Tokyo, Japan

MOST COST EFFECTIVE
1, Shijiazhuang, China
2, Dalian, China
3, Quezon City, Philippines
4, Cebu City, Philippines
5, Guangzhou, China
6, Davao City, Philippines
7, Colombo, Sri Lanka
8, Taipei City, Taiwan (Republic of China)
9, Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia
10, Taichung, Taiwan (Republic of China)

BEST HUMAN RESOURCES
1, Singapore, Singapore
2, Melbourne, Australia
3, Hong Kong, China
4, Taipei City, Taiwan (Republic of China)
5, Davao City, Philippines
6, Quezon City, Philippines
7, Seoul, South Korea
8, Chongqing, China
9, Shijiazhuang, China
10, Guangzhou, China

BEST QUALITY OF LIFE
1, Melbourne, Australia
2, Hong Kong, China
3, Singapore, Singapore
4, Tokyo, Japan
5, Macau, China
6, Taipei City, Taiwan (Republic of China)
7, Cebu City, Philippines
8, Sakai, Japan
9, Hiroshima, Japan
10, Quezon City, Philippines

BEST INFRASTRUCTURE
1, Tokyo, Japan
2, Singapore, Singapore
3, Hong Kong, China
4, Yokohama, Japan
5, Taipei City, Taiwan (Republic of China)
6, Fukuoka, Japan
7, Osaka, Japan
8, Kobe, Japan
9, Seoul, South Korea
10, Hiroshima, Japan

MOST BUSINESS FRIENDLY
1, Singapore, Singapore
2, Hong Kong, China
3, Macau, China
4, Melbourne, Australia
5, Shijiazhuang, China
6, Nanjing, China
7, Colombo, Sri Lanka
8, Brisbane, Australia
9, Taipei City, Taiwan (Republic of China)
10, Tokyo, Japan

BEST DEVELOPMENT AND PROMOTION
1, Singapore, Singapore
2, Cebu City, Philippines
3, Hong Kong, China
4, Taipei City, Taiwan (Republic of China)
5, Melbourne, Australia
6, Dalian, China
7, Nanjing, China
8, Brisbane, Australia
9, Guangzhou, China
10, Lucknow, India

SMALLER CITIES OF THE FUTURE
1 Alor Star, Malaysia
2 Newcastle, Australia
3 Jeju , South Korea
4 Taoyuan City, Taiwan
5 Gifu, Japan
6 Ipswich, Australia

BEST ECONOMIC POTENTIAL - SMALL CITIES
1 Newcastle, Australia
2 Alor Star, Malaysia

MOST COST EFFECTIVE - SMALL CITIES
1 Alor Star, Malaysia
2 Taoyuan City, Taiwan

BEST HUMAN RESOURCES - SMALL CITIES
1 Newcastle, Australia
2 Jeju , South Korea

BEST QUALITY OF LIFE - SMALL CITIES
1 Newcastle, Australia
2 Gifu, Japan

BEST INFRASTRUCTURE - SMALL CITIES
1 Gifu, Japan
2 Newcastle, Australia

MOST BUSINESS FRIENDLY - SMALL CITIES
1 Taoyuan City, Taiwan
2 Alor Star, Malaysia

BEST DEVELOPMENT AND PROMOTION - SMALL CITIES
1 Jeju , South Korea
2 Newcastle, Australia

[Svartmetall]

I've been to Sydney and explored it quite extensively and I'd say though there are comparisons between Sydney and Auckland, they are two very different cities in other ways. The glamour of Sydney would appeal to you Syd, it's far more "pretty" than Melbourne in a lot of ways and I'd say that generally in the state run transit areas the PT is better than Melbourne (so say my family).

There aren't as many blights on the landscape in Sydney as far as motorways go, Melbourne is known as the freeway capital of Australia and they're building more as we speak. Melbourne also has more unsightly sprawl than Syd and on the surface at least, quite a few of the suburbs of Sydney I'd say are better looking than the inner city suburbs of Melbourne.

Up to you though, my Mum preferred Melbourne, my sister preferred Sydney. For me, the jury is out. I will say that I'd not put too much store by random surveys. It's the same as the HDI being a flawed measure, or GDP per capita not really having much store as a measure. Personally I believe that the only way to say whether or not a city is a good one is go there, explore it, try living in it and then clear off. Don't forget how often Auckland gets highly rated by Mercer even for infrastructure and the like - I'd not say that Auckland's infrastructure is top notch by any stretch of the imagination.