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LeeighIam December 28th, 2009, 05:51 AM good point mrtfreak...I didnt understand it either when they first launched the monorail with just one car..makes no sense, if you want people to ride it..makes it comfortable and 'inviting'...having to push and shove is not exactly my idea of gett'n around..
dengilo December 29th, 2009, 04:06 PM Hello mrt the system for sentosa island ah how does it compared to this kl one ahh?
mrtfreak December 29th, 2009, 09:11 PM Actually not so bad. But I always take it out of the island instead of into the island due to long queues at the entry terminal station. Crowds are controlled at the automatic fare collection gate equivillent where too many people are prevented from accessing the platform area. Staff are on hand at the gates to stop any movement once a certain number of passengers have gone through and also on the platform to facilitate passenger movement. 2 new trains have been purchased and commissioned recently, bringing the total to 6 trains of 2-cars each. It is a resort line after all though, so footfall isn't as high as that of KL Monorail I'm expecting.
dengilo December 30th, 2009, 11:11 AM Thanks for the info!!I suspect originally the KL system is the one operating at sentosa.Its hitachi if i am not mistaken.
mrtfreak December 30th, 2009, 02:22 PM Yes, that's right. The trains here are supplied by Hitachi. The design is somewhat different from the KL Monorail though, which follows the Alweg design. The boogies are placed differently, so not so sure if the trains are interchangeable. Oh, also, the platforms here come installed with platform screen gates at all stations and platform screen doors at the mainland terminal, just to note.
chuakz December 30th, 2009, 02:28 PM I wonder when will there be an LRT or monorail line in sunway...=(
lohxy January 3rd, 2010, 03:08 PM we can make it an SSC Proposal for Monorail...
I think venturing deep into UM and then UH (Hospital damm crowded) will be a good idea... but pardon me as I dont know much about the difficulty getting the monorail there.
The current Universiti stop (KJ Line) is not convenient.
original idea by kelvinkoh
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/7515/monorailt.jpg
erm, my idea is to run trough Jln.Kuching, but I foudn that the LRT and Komuter had blck the way.
dengilo January 4th, 2010, 01:55 AM If they had planned the system to serve as the inner circle line for inner KL it would have been great but for the moment beyond titiwangsa what?beyond sentral i am sure they can extend it toward jalan klang lama onwards sunway.
nazrey January 4th, 2010, 07:58 AM From flickr
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4049/4240224645_b2287695e8_b.jpg
dengilo January 4th, 2010, 08:17 AM Yes thank you nazrey by now everyone here will already know what the monorail looks like!!!
sc4 January 4th, 2010, 12:24 PM Yes thank you nazrey by now everyone here will already know what the monorail looks like!!!
^^ :lol:
allurban January 6th, 2010, 10:57 AM Yes, that's right. The trains here are supplied by Hitachi. The design is somewhat different from the KL Monorail though, which follows the Alweg design. The boogies are placed differently, so not so sure if the trains are interchangeable. Oh, also, the platforms here come installed with platform screen gates at all stations and platform screen doors at the mainland terminal, just to note.As I recall, the Hitachi Small monorail used in Sentosa has 3 bogies, while the KL Monorail has 4 bogies
Cheers, m
project aliciel January 8th, 2010, 12:39 PM http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7515/monorailt.jpg
we can make it an SSC Proposal for Monorail...
I think venturing deep into UM and then UH (Hospital damm crowded) will be a good idea... but pardon me as I dont know much about the difficulty getting the monorail there.
The current Universiti stop (KJ Line) is not convenient.
erm, my idea is to run trough Jln.Kuching, but I foudn that the LRT and Komuter had blck the way.
It is not possible to extend the monorail line from Titiwangsa to Jalan Ipoh. If you don't believe go Titiwangsa station and have a look. Just my opinion.
I have same opinion with you last time, make the KL Monorail line circular to make Inner Ring Line, but as the time goes by, I think it over again and announcements of several government projects, I think it is make little profit but with high cost.
I'm not agree with you (sorry *>.<*) because of:
1. There is no need of line duplication of two future lines (1 announced and 1 I speculate):
A: Kota Damansara - Cheras Line (KCL)
Government had announced that KCL will run through the Jalan Maarof through Pusat Bandar Damansara
B: Selayang - ? Line
Through KL Structure Plan 2020, DBKL have plan to build LRT line from Bangsar to Selayang through Mount Kiara, Segambut, and Jinjang.
2. LRT extension does not cover Sunway as last time I expected, but Sunwayers need LRT so badly... I think KL Monorail can extend their services from Tun Sambanthan Station to Sunway via Kg. Medan through route of Klang River and New Pantai Expressway, then intergrate with Kelana Jaya Line.
This is my proposed new stations for KL Monorail extension I proposed:
Tun Sambanthan - KL Sentral - Jalan Berhala - Mid Valley West - Bukit Angkasa - Pantai Dalam - Kg. Pasir - Seksyen 18 - Taman Sri Sentosa - Kg. Medan - PJS 2 South - PJS 5 - PJS 7 - PJS 9 - Sunway Pyramid - Sunway College - Monash University - Jalan SS 14/8 - Summit USJ - USJ 7 (Intergrate with KJL) - USJ 8 (Intergrate with KJL) - Taipan - Persiaran Perpaduan West - USJ 11 West - USJ 12 - USJ 17/18 - Tropika Paradise (Intergrate with KJL)
(Sorry no map available, use your imagination. :laugh:)
tunomura January 8th, 2010, 04:31 PM ^^Totally agree with your idea and the proposed route to extend monorail until Sunway.
Extending to Jalan Ipoh/ Mont Kiara is not good idea because this area have high density and monorail system can't meet the demand there. If they extending to Sunway, people still have an option to choose other rail systems (KTM Komuter & Rapid KL rail systems) by meaning that this monorail system only work as a feeder line.
With such extension also which expected to be additional 18km (total 26km), Malaysia also will break the world record as a 2nd longest monorail line after Osaka Monorail (28km). Malaysia boleh!
By the way, in order to meet demand in Mon't Kiara area why not they extending APL which will be upgraded to be MRT line.
:cheers:
lohxy January 9th, 2010, 05:55 AM IF monorail line is extended to Sunway, extend it to Shah Alam!!! Or maybe extend to Klang since there is a major traffic problem!
patchay January 9th, 2010, 09:38 AM This is my proposed new stations for KL Monorail extension I proposed:
Tun Sambanthan - KL Sentral - Jalan Berhala - Mid Valley West - Bukit Angkasa - Pantai Dalam - Kg. Pasir - Seksyen 18 - Taman Sri Sentosa - Kg. Medan - PJS 2 South - PJS 5 - PJS 7 - PJS 9 - Sunway Pyramid - Sunway College - Monash University - Jalan SS 14/8 - Summit USJ - USJ 7 (Intergrate with KJL) - USJ 8 (Intergrate with KJL) - Taipan - Persiaran Perpaduan West - USJ 11 West - USJ 12 - USJ 17/18 - Tropika Paradise (Intergrate with KJL)
(Sorry no map available, use your imagination. :laugh:)
wow that is a good plan.... can someone draw out something so that we see the route clearer??
dengilo January 10th, 2010, 07:15 AM If i am not mistaken the original plan was to go out that way toward kampung pasir!Remember gigaworld?
mrtfreak January 10th, 2010, 10:56 AM ^^ Yeah, it was to have had a second depot at Taman Desa and pass OUG on the way to Kampung Pasir (where is that anyway) too. If I'm not wrong, it would have gone to Seputeh too? KL Sentral would have been a shuttle then. Too bad about the 1998 financial crisis though.
dengilo January 11th, 2010, 05:58 AM :lol:Mrt perhaps kampung pasir is longer there:nuts:However sunway would be better and somhow link it to the subang jaya stn:)
allurban January 11th, 2010, 09:14 AM It is not possible to extend the monorail line from Titiwangsa to Jalan Ipoh. If you don't believe go Titiwangsa station and have a look. Just my opinion.
I have same opinion with you last time, make the KL Monorail line circular to make Inner Ring Line, but as the time goes by, I think it over again and announcements of several government projects, I think it is make little profit but with high cost.
I'm not agree with you (sorry *>.<*) because of:
1. There is no need of line duplication of two future lines (1 announced and 1 I speculate):
A: Kota Damansara - Cheras Line (KCL)
Government had announced that KCL will run through the Jalan Maarof through Pusat Bandar Damansara
B: Selayang - ? Line
Through KL Structure Plan 2020, DBKL have plan to build LRT line from Bangsar to Selayang through Mount Kiara, Segambut, and Jinjang.:)Monorail does not have to be a single continuous loop. Also, there is no reason why the monorail cannot be rebuilt to bypass Titiwangsa and use Jalan Pahang instead.
As for the KCL being extended through Jalan Maarof, that is only one proposal and there is already fear from Prasarana that it will receive a lot of protest from the people who work and live on Jalan Maarof.
Monorail is a more appropriate scale for Jalan Maarof as compared to MRT which is what the KCL will be.
My expectation is that KCL will either continue through Bangsar being built behind the residential area or under the hill, or continue directly along Jalan Parliamen to KL.
As for the KL Structure Plan 2020 there is no line from Bangsar to Selayang. You are referring to the KL City 2020 Draft Local Plan...and that proposed line is very unlikely to be built as LRT because the areas involved are very high density.
That Bangsar-Selayang line would probably be built as a high-capacity monorail (if it is built at all) with one end at MidValley and the other end at Selayang.
Extension of the APL (future SPL) will also be a possibility as well as an extension of the line from Ampang.
2. LRT extension does not cover Sunway as last time I expected, but Sunwayers need LRT so badly... I think KL Monorail can extend their services from Tun Sambanthan Station to Sunway via Kg. Medan through route of Klang River and New Pantai Expressway, then intergrate with Kelana Jaya Line.
This is my proposed new stations for KL Monorail extension I proposed:
Tun Sambanthan - KL Sentral - Jalan Berhala - Mid Valley West - Bukit Angkasa - Pantai Dalam - Kg. Pasir - Seksyen 18 - Taman Sri Sentosa - Kg. Medan - PJS 2 South - PJS 5 - PJS 7 - PJS 9 - Sunway Pyramid - Sunway College - Monash University - Jalan SS 14/8 - Summit USJ - USJ 7 (Intergrate with KJL) - USJ 8 (Intergrate with KJL) - Taipan - Persiaran Perpaduan West - USJ 11 West - USJ 12 - USJ 17/18 - Tropika Paradise (Intergrate with KJL)
(Sorry no map available, use your imagination. :laugh:)Nice fantasy plan but unlikely to happen. If Prasarana builds monorails they will be building smaller 'community' monorails ... but more likely they are going to build BRT now. see http://www.sun2surf.com/article.cfm?id=41893
Cheers, m
nazrey January 14th, 2010, 11:52 AM KL Monorial - Bukit Bintang stop
New floor cladding and barriers!?
From flickr
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4036/4256213925_8fcb93bd08_b.jpg
nazrey January 14th, 2010, 11:58 AM Timing arrival
From flickr
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2801/4250116870_3d964a5dbc_o.jpg
cullen January 14th, 2010, 12:18 PM KL Monorial - Bukit Bintang stop
New floor cladding and barriers!?
From flickr
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4036/4256213925_8fcb93bd08_b.jpg
it's 'floor tiles'! not cladding...;) yes they are new color...
nazrey January 14th, 2010, 12:23 PM it's 'floor tiles'! not cladding...;) yes they are new color...
Well! lantai is...'tiles' :lol: ..Thanks!
erwinkarim January 14th, 2010, 05:24 PM it's 'floor tiles'! not cladding...;) yes they are new color...
they should use the money to change the roof to something more heat-absorbing or less heat-dissipating.
cullen January 14th, 2010, 07:18 PM ^^ hey, i like canvas!! ;)
allurban January 15th, 2010, 10:04 AM ^^ hey, i like canvas!! ;)agreed. Just keep the fans running.
Wonder if Prasarana/RapidKL will repaint the monorail now that they are moving away from the KLStarrail Sdn. Bhd. and focusing on the rapidKL brand.
Who likes the orange?
Who would prefer the red, white & blue (but no yellow, interestingly enough)
Cheers, m
dengilo January 16th, 2010, 07:32 AM And if i am not mistaken that could be bukit bintang station,They should finish or force YTL to give way for exit on that side of the platform.The sidewalk infront of lot 10 does not belong to them!!!!!
mrtfreak January 16th, 2010, 09:11 PM As I recall, the Hitachi Small monorail used in Sentosa has 3 bogies, while the KL Monorail has 4 bogies
Cheers, m
Well, as far as I remember, our monorail trains don't have seats in the centre. In the KL monorail, these are to cover over the area of the boogies. So not so sure how many boogies are used on the Sentosa Express.
allurban January 18th, 2010, 10:27 AM Well, as far as I remember, our monorail trains don't have seats in the centre. In the KL monorail, these are to cover over the area of the boogies. So not so sure how many boogies are used on the Sentosa Express.Technical info on Sentosa Monorail
http://www.sentosa.com.sg/about_us/press_releases/press_release20061204_factsheet.html
Tehncial Paper on Hitachi Small Monorail http://www.hitachi.com/ICSFiles/afieldfile/2004/06/08/r2001_04_104.pdf
Looks like 3 bogies per 2 car train as I thought (or 5 bogies per 4 car train as shown in the diagram on page 4)
Cheers, m
nazrey February 23rd, 2010, 08:02 PM From flickr
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4044/4375550401_bd73868104_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4069/4375551913_e6ede0aa38_b.jpg
nazrey March 9th, 2010, 07:45 PM http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4050/4416872172_085ab447ff_o.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4014/4416106569_602a9af35a_o.jpg
nazrey September 5th, 2010, 09:10 AM http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4087/4958876851_0c71da279a_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/26911479@N02/4958876851/
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/26911479@N02/4959471582/
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4129/4958877621_bcc787b383_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/26911479@N02/4958877621/
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4101/4958877433_c74f110b7a_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/26911479@N02/4958877433/
dengilo September 6th, 2010, 05:15 AM Was there any plans to extend this line beyond the titiwangsa station towards segambut /jalan duta/e mount kiara area??
kl 2020 ideas September 7th, 2010, 04:52 AM Was there any plans to extend this line beyond the titiwangsa station towards segambut /jalan duta/e mount kiara area??
Nope, never heard of any extension plan of monorail. When did they announce that?
allurban September 7th, 2010, 06:34 AM Was there any plans to extend this line beyond the titiwangsa station towards segambut /jalan duta/e mount kiara area??there was a plan back in 2005 - and it seems that the company has suggested that they can build the "MRT" as proposed using monorail technology...
Cheers, m
dengilo September 7th, 2010, 07:41 AM Thats all i hear lately MRT!!!When the present line can be upgraded and extended to reach places that really needs it!!Until i see the extension of the ampang and kelana jaya lines becomes a reality then i will belive that MRT mumbo jumbo will happen.
nazrey September 7th, 2010, 02:48 PM Scomi Engr eyes 80pc oversea revenue
Published: 2010/09/07
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/20100907162726/Article/index_html
Scomi Engineering Bhd has targeted its overseas market to contribute about 80 per cent of its revenue going forward, with the start of the Mumbai monorail project showcasing Malaysian expertise.
Its president, Syahrunizam Samsudin, said the overseas business would be the main growth driver as the local market for the rail industry was relatively small.
"The Mumbai project is a good test bed that stamps approval for us to move forward globally among the major players such as Bombardier and Hitachi.
"Of course, we are supporting the local market but generally the demand is overseas and hopefully if the local market opens up, there will be room to advance," he told a media briefing after the visit by International Trade and Industry Minister Datuk Seri Mustapa Mohamed to its plant here today.
Scomi Engineering and Indian partner, Larsen and Toubro Ltd, won a RM1.85 billion contract to build a monorail system in the Mumbai Metropolitan Region in November 2008.
The 20km monorail route stretches from the west side of Mumbai at Gadge Maharaj Chowk (Jacob's Circle) heading north-east to Chembur via Wadala, with one central depot and 18 user-friendly and highly-secured stations.
The Indian project contributed 40 per cent to the revenue last year and is expected to contribute 30 per cent this year and in 2011.
Last year, Scomi recorded a revenue of RM573 million.
To-date Scomi Engineering has submitted tenders for Manaus Monorail and Tirradentes Monorail project in Brazil.
It is also looking into securing the Pune Monorail Project, Thane-Bhiwandi-Kalyan Monorail Project and Bangalore Monorail Project in India.
"We are already working towards tapping projects in Saudi Arabia. Going forward, we are eyeing Thailand, Jakarta and Sri Lanka. They are among the developing nations that plan to develop mass transport infrastructures.
"India has nine monorail plans with 184 km in its masterplan while Brazil has identified 23 monorail lines with the World Cup 2014.
"So, the market is out there," he said.
Syahrunizam said of the 15 train sets to be delivered to Mumbai, the first batch of four-car monorail train would be despatched tonight and would be delivered in October and six-train sets would be despatched by year-end.
"The balance nine sets will be sent on a staggered basis.
"Phase one of 9km with six-train sets will be commissioned by the second quarter next year while full commission is expected in third quarter.
"We are confident that 15 sets will be delivered within the stipulated period," he said.
On the local rail industry expertise, Syahrunizam said Scomi has blended international talents to work together with the locals to cater to the industry requirements.
On the local front, Scomi Engineering has tendered for KL monorail fleet expansion project and is looking into Kelana Jaya Line light rail transit (LRT) and Ampang Line LRT expansion projects.
Scomi Engineering has reported a lower pre-tax profit of RM1.595 million for its second quarter ended June 30, compared with RM29.283 million in the same quarter last year.
"The drop is due to our overall estimate of cost increase for the Mumbai project and potential delay experienced by our Indian client," he said. -- Bernama
nazrey September 7th, 2010, 02:53 PM http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d12/johnsonooijunsheng/n10monorail7hy.jpg
simphony September 7th, 2010, 03:22 PM i think this will be the most effective mass transportation here,.
kl 2020 ideas September 8th, 2010, 03:57 AM http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d12/johnsonooijunsheng/n10monorail7hy.jpg
Wait, I seen that blueprint for the proposed monorail before, but what in the world is happening. They said it will be built like late 2007 and yet nothing happened. The plan is like 70% of it is the proposed LRT extension and MRT correct (It is aligned except the Bandar Sri Damansara and the USJ part) me if I am wrong
project aliciel September 8th, 2010, 08:58 AM I hope the green extension will be considered. It able to move passengers to Mid Valley, Pantai Dalam, Jalan Klang Lama and Sunway more effectively.
t3ars_culprit September 8th, 2010, 10:12 AM I hope the green extension will be considered. It able to move passengers to Mid Valley, Pantai Dalam, Jalan Klang Lama and Sunway more effectively.
And I hope they modify the Green Line so that it integrate well with KTM Port Klang Line :)
allurban September 10th, 2010, 11:09 PM Wait, I seen that blueprint for the proposed monorail before, but what in the world is happening. They said it will be built like late 2007 and yet nothing happened. The plan is like 70% of it is the proposed LRT extension and MRT correct (It is aligned except the Bandar Sri Damansara and the USJ part) me if I am wronger...KL Infrastructure Group made the proposal in 2005 and it was shot down quickly. At the time no one was talking about LRT expansion or anything like that ...
At that time, KLIG was already having trouble paying its debts and the announcement of this proposal was more for increasing the value of their shares than to actually build things.
Just as MMC-Gamuda leaked the MRT proposal and got the PM to announce that there would be an MRT in the 10th Malaysia Plan - it's all really just corporate shenanigans.
I was one of the people who shot the monorail proposal down because it did not meet the full needs of the Klang Valley. I clearly said then that the monorail cannot meet demand unless it has the capacity of an MRT. The president of KLIG then said that the monorail could be built to MRT capacity. I said, "prove it"
That is when the correspondence stopped.
This monorail plan is not the best that I have ever seen and I have doubts that many of the lines could have been built then, let alone now.
Cheers, m
nazrey December 6th, 2010, 02:14 PM Scomi Engr wins RM494m Prasarana deal
Published: 2010/12/06
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/20101206142812/Article/index_html
Scomi Engineering Bhd, a Malaysian engineering and transport equipment maker, said it won a RM494 million contract from Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd to supply coaches for a monorail fleet extension in Kuala Lumpur.
Scomi Engineering Bhd, a Malaysian engineering and transport equipment maker, said it won a RM494 million contract from Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd to supply coaches for a monorail fleet extension in Kuala Lumpur.
Scomi said in an exchange filing today that it had accepted the contract price. -- Bloomberg
idiamindada December 6th, 2010, 03:11 PM RM500 million means…they are going to extend monorail line? up until where?
bcoz i think it's too much if it is just about adding 3-4 car coach.
constipation December 6th, 2010, 08:31 PM RM500 million means…they are going to extend monorail line? up until where?
bcoz i think it's too much if it is just about adding 3-4 car coach.
monorail fleet extension n extend monorail line is two different thing,isnt it?
nazrey December 6th, 2010, 09:43 PM klo nak extend line kena ada public view reaction...
allurban December 7th, 2010, 10:24 PM Scomi Engr wins RM494m Prasarana deal
Published: 2010/12/06
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/20101206142812/Article/index_html
Scomi Engineering Bhd, a Malaysian engineering and transport equipment maker, said it won a RM494 million contract from Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd to supply coaches for a monorail fleet extension in Kuala Lumpur.
Scomi Engineering Bhd, a Malaysian engineering and transport equipment maker, said it won a RM494 million contract from Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd to supply coaches for a monorail fleet extension in Kuala Lumpur.
Scomi said in an exchange filing today that it had accepted the contract price. -- Bloombergsigh...fleet expansion, not fleet extension - although they might also be talking about extending the life of the existing trains.
I believe that all they are going to do is move to 4-carriage trains, not increase the actual train frequency.
Not sure if this contract went to open tender - though it's not as if Bombardier or Hitachi would compete with Scomi on Malaysian soil.
Cheers, m
idiamindada December 8th, 2010, 03:53 AM i believe we need to give priority to local builder as the money won't flow outside Malaysia. ok, another case we need a more transparent transaction. that's it. so that the 'bus graveyard' tragedy won't happen again.
everthing has to do with MoF. don't blame Prasarana.
forrestcat December 8th, 2010, 04:21 PM Red somewhere in The Star some time ago that Prasarana may use the defunct monorail city near KL Sentral as a depot for the new longer monorails. The RM490 million dole may include renovating that dump into the new depot.
rizalhakim December 17th, 2010, 10:15 AM Scomi Eng bags RM494m KL Monorail job
By Chong Jin Hun of The Edge Financial Daily
Friday, 17 December 2010 14:28
KUALA LUMPUR: Scomi Engineering Bhd on Thursday, Dec 16 received the letter of award for the RM494 million KL Monorail Fleet Expansion Project from Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd (SPNB).
The job will take 31 months to complete, Scomi Engineering told Bursa Malaysia. No further details were provided on the scope of the project in the filing with the exchange.
Scomi Engineering said the project would not have an impact on its current year financials but is expected to "contribute positively" to its future earnings. The letter of award followed SPNB's letter of intent to Scomi Engineering last week.
In July this year, Scomi Engineering had handed in its proposal for the monorail expansion to SPNB. News reports earlier indicated the company might supply 48 coaches for the expansion.
The 8.6km KL Monorail comprises 11 stations linking Kuala Lumpur Sentral with prime locations in the city. Construction of the KL Monorail which was launched in August 2003, had cost RM1.18 billion then.
Scomi Engineering closed unchanged on Thursday at RM1.02 with 99,900 shares changing hands.
allurban December 19th, 2010, 01:50 AM i believe we need to give priority to local builder as the money won't flow outside Malaysia. ok, another case we need a more transparent transaction. that's it. so that the 'bus graveyard' tragedy won't happen again.
everthing has to do with MoF. don't blame Prasarana.hahaa who's blaming anyone? I'm disappointed that Scomi didn't attempt to run some of their SUTRA monorail design as a demonstrator to the world. Even 1 train would have made a huge difference for passengers and helped Scomi raise the scale of their reputation to the world.
Then they would be competing on a level similar to Hitachi and Bombardier - rather than as a poor cousin.
Cheers, m
idiamindada December 19th, 2010, 03:16 AM hahaa who's blaming anyone? I'm disappointed that Scomi didn't attempt to run some of their SUTRA monorail design as a demonstrator to the world. Even 1 train would have made a huge difference for passengers and helped Scomi raise the scale of their reputation to the world.
Then they would be competing on a level similar to Hitachi and Bombardier - rather than as a poor cousin.
Cheers, m
and their new RM500k job is not going to use SUTRA?
allurban December 19th, 2010, 06:03 AM and their new RM500k job is not going to use SUTRA?it is...but SUTRA was introduced in November 2007.
3 years later and SUTRA is only started operating in Mumbai - not even sure if they are in revenue service yet...
You tell me if things would be different if the SUTRA had started operating tests on the KL Monorail line in June 2008...having 1 train (or better, 2 trains) operating would have made a big difference and secured more projects for Scomi.
Cheers, m
forrestcat December 19th, 2010, 12:29 PM it is...but SUTRA was introduced in November 2007.
3 years later and SUTRA is only started operating in Mumbai - not even sure if they are in revenue service yet...
You tell me if things would be different if the SUTRA had started operating tests on the KL Monorail line in June 2008...having 1 train (or better, 2 trains) operating would have made a big difference and secured more projects for Scomi.
Cheers, m
Well..with special treatments from Badawi who gave free flowing orders for China buses which are prone to spontaneous combustion...why would they care.
mrtfreak December 19th, 2010, 01:46 PM 3 years later and SUTRA is sold to only Mumbai - not even in revenue service yet...
^^ Fixed it for you. :) Mumbai monorail is in construction stage, targetted operation commencement is next year.
allurban December 21st, 2010, 07:52 PM ^^ Fixed it for you. :) Mumbai monorail is in construction stage, targetted operation commencement is next year.TQ
Cheers, m
mrtfreak December 22nd, 2010, 03:28 AM You're welcome. According to the Mumbai Monorail thread in the India forums, the first full set of SUTRA has just arrived in Mumbai. It consists of 4 cars but the Mumbaikers feel that the trains are too short and offer too low a capacity.
bukhrin December 22nd, 2010, 04:52 AM 4 cars monorails look a bit shorter than the 2 cars bombardier trains eh ? Well, at least they're wider. Ho ho ho.
TWK90 December 22nd, 2010, 05:02 AM 4 cars monorails look a bit shorter than the 2 cars bombardier trains eh ? Well, at least they're wider. Ho ho ho.
4 car SUTRA monorail is about 45.3 m long.
4 car Bombardier ART MK II is about 67.1 m long.
SUTRA monorail set is 3.08 m wide.
Bombardier ART MK II, 2.65 m wide.
idiamindada December 22nd, 2010, 07:53 PM Mumbai Monorail is on testing..u can hv an idea how long it is.
Mumbai Monorail on testing track in Malaysia
cc http://accommodationtimes.com
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mrtfreak December 23rd, 2010, 03:28 AM That picture is from Scomi's test track in Rawang by the way, just so people don't assume its in Mumbai. :) They did do a 1-coach test run in January though.
bukhrin December 23rd, 2010, 01:56 PM Cantik, but hopefully would have a much nicer livery and not so many adwraps.
dcOhiney December 23rd, 2010, 03:03 PM hmm..agree, it does look kinda short..
razpatrol99 December 23rd, 2010, 07:48 PM hmm..agree, it does look kinda short..
yeah... but i think its bigger than monorail in Sydney, so shld be ok. :D
Btw.., anyone know the propose stations of the monorail expansion??
TWK90 December 24th, 2010, 06:56 AM yeah... but i think its bigger than monorail in Sydney, so shld be ok. :D
Btw.., anyone know the propose stations of the monorail expansion??
The news is about monorail fleet expansion (adding longer trains) instead of extension of line.
razpatrol99 December 24th, 2010, 06:58 AM The news is about monorail fleet expansion (adding longer trains) instead of extension of line.
oo..,hmmm bummer. :D
forrestcat December 24th, 2010, 03:34 PM The currrent monorail looks stunted and short but inside it's pretty wide. Can't wait for the new monorails to enter service :). I hope some of those RM400 million would also be spent on upgrading the stations.
BTW, what will happen to the two car monorail in the future? Since the project is to supply twelve 4 car trains which should be sufficient? Transferred to Putrajaya....I wish!!:banana:
bukhrin December 25th, 2010, 04:43 AM Tender already out on the station upgrade works (lifts and wheelchair lifts). but no news on whether they will place PED on other stations like the one at BB.
nazrey June 3rd, 2011, 11:15 AM http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2516/5715159527_987fa96642_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/razuryza/5715159527/in/photostream
idiamindada June 4th, 2011, 10:28 AM Scomi consortium picked for RM2.6b Brazil monorail
KUALA LUMPUR, June 3 — A consortium that includes Malaysia’s Scomi Engineering Berhad has won a RM2.6 billion contract to build an 18km monorail line in Sao Paulo, Brazil, parent company Scomi Group Berhad said today.
It said the Consortium Monotrilho Integracao contract covers the design works, manufacture, supply and implementation of the monorail system for Line 17 – Gold Metro of São Paulo which will have 18 stations commencing from Jabaquara to São Paulo – Morumbi.
The contract involves the supply of 24-car train sets consisting of three cars in each set and is expected to carry some 252,000 passengers per day. The award is valued at 1.4 billion reals, or approximately RM2.6 billion, and is expected to be completed in 42 months, Scomi said.
The consortium consists of Scomi, Andrade Gutierrez S.A. (“AG Group”), CR Almeida S.A. Engenharia de Obras and Montagens e Projetos Especiais SA.
Scomi’s scope of works will involve the supply of rolling, the vehicle management system (VMS), design for switches, system integration, system assurance and testing and commissioning, it added.
“This is a reflection of the confidence in the group’s capabilities as well as its track record in managing sizeable and multi-faceted urban transportation endeavours on an international scale,” said Shah Hakim Zain, group chief executive officer of Scomi Group, in a statement.
He noted the Brazilian market holds enormous potential for the group which has been spreading its wings outside the Asean region in recent years.
“We are committed to leverage on our expertise as a turnkey specialist of rail systems and to ensure that we take full advantage of the opportunities in urban transportation projects in Brazil and other parts of the world,” Shah Hakim said.
Scomi and its consortium partner, Larsen & Toubro Ltd India, were awarded a contract in November 2008 for a 19.5km line expected to be completed by end of this year.
Scomi has formed other alliances to participate in bids and proposals for a number of projects, locally and overseas in countries such as India, Brazil, Bahrain, Syria, and Egypt.
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/business/article/scomi-consortium-picked-for-rm2.6b-brazil-monorail/
bukhrin June 4th, 2011, 02:16 PM Scomi's 4 car monorail
http://www.scomi.com.my/GUI/video/rail.html
No update langsung on the works for the KL monorail fleet expansion.
idiamindada June 4th, 2011, 05:47 PM ^^ nampak berat macam Persona guna enjin 1.3 jer…! :lol:
heikal June 20th, 2011, 06:09 PM I hope that one fine day (hope in 2-3 yrs time), Scomi could finally design, assemble, and manufacture locally a new driverless monorail system (like Bombardier of Canada) which applies the centralized control so that it could improve the train timing and speed consistency.
I like the SUTRA. And I am so proud of our monorail.
dengilo June 21st, 2011, 12:10 AM Finally it looks like HITACHI s:lol:
heikal June 22nd, 2011, 04:01 PM Finally it looks like HITACHI s:lol:
Haha... But I can still associate the design with Malaysian... I mean, the design is sleek but not to boxy or bullet-like like Japanese...
The design symbolizes our Malaysian culture - harmony, peace, calm, and happyiness... :)
nazrey September 19th, 2011, 09:48 AM Train ride to wedded bliss
By LEE YEN MUN Monday September 19, 2011
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/9/19/nation/9527023&sec=nation
http://thestar.com.my/archives/2011/9/19/nation/wed.jpg
Newly-weds: Nathawat and Fanny posing at the driver’s
seat onboard a chartered KL Monorail train.
KUALA LUMPUR: They met by chance while working on the KL Monorail project five years ago. Yesterday, accountant-to-be Fanny Kok walked off the train as Mrs Nathawat Khunprasit.
In the first marriage solemnisation of its kind, the couple exchanged vows and was declared husband-and-wife onboard a 10-minute train ride running between three monorail stations.
The newly-weds also invited a monk to perform blessings onboard the two-car monorail, specially chartered for the occasion.
The brief ceremony was witnessed by about 70 people consisting of family members, friends and the media.
Nathawat, a Thai national, said they met in 2006 when they were working on the monorail project on separate roles.
“The first time I laid eyes on her, I was attracted by her calm and quiet demeanour but I did not pursue my feelings until about two years later,” said Nathawat, in his 40s, who now heads the systems engineering department at Scomi Rail Berhad.
Kok, 27, who is now pursuing her ACCA qualification, described her groom as her best friend.
“I am glad we are able to share this special occasion in such a unique and fun way and in the presence of our loved ones,” she said.
After signing the marriage certificate on the train, Kok performed the mandatory bridal bouquet throw for aspiring brides at the Titiwangsa station.
The couple and their guests later alighted at the Medan Tuanku station and walked to a hotel for a dinner reception.
“The monorail, which kicked off our love story, is a symbol of success in this city. It is an honour for us to share in this success through our work and our love,” Nathawat said.
nazrey December 1st, 2011, 09:46 AM Scomi 4-car trains
http://www.monorails.org/webpix%202/Sutra3view.jpg
http://biz.thestar.com.my/archives/2007/11/27/business/najib.jpg
Scomi wins RM494m job to supply 4-car trains
By Bilqis BahariPublished: 2011/12/01
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/lrt/Article/#ixzz1fMTCcHrQ
KUALA LUMPUR: More city dwellers will be able to ride the newly-upgraded KL Monorail in one go and their journey time on the trains will also be reduced.
With this in mind, 12 sets of new four-car trains will be built and used for the existing monorail under a contract agreement inked between Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd (Prasarana) and Scomi Rail Bhd (Scomi).
The RM494 million project is scheduled to be completed by July 2013. The first set of four-car trains will be running starting November 15 2012.
The new four-car trains will be able to load on an average of 118 passengers per car, compared to the existing car-trains that can fit only 107 passengers per car.
Scomi Engineering Bhd chairman Datuk Zainun Aishah Ahmad said the current two-car trains are serving at 35 per cent over capacity and it is projected that this number will increase substantially by 2012.
"To meet this demand, Prasarana has contracted Scomi to double the capacity of the current KL monorail line to 6,400 passengers per hour per direction with the new four-car-trains," she said.
Meanwhile, Scomi group chief executive officer Shah Hakim Zain said besides providing the new four-car trains, Scomi will also improve the individual monorail stations by increasing the length of platforms and improve the current stations condition.
He added that Scomi will install a new signalling system for the trains, so that "it will allow us to move into driverless technology in the future."
He was speaking to reporters at a press conference after the signing ceremony yesterday. Also present was the Transport Minister Datuk Seri Kong Cho Ha.
Kong said the project is part of the government's National Key Result Areas, its objective is to increase the ridership capacity for the KL Monorail Line by end-2012 and to enhance the comfort and convenience to KL commuters.
CoolFellas December 1st, 2011, 07:08 PM Scomi wins RM494m job to supply 4-car trains
By Bilqis BahariPublished: 2011/12/01
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/lrt/Article/#ixzz1fMTCcHrQ
KUALA LUMPUR: More city dwellers will be able to ride the newly-upgraded KL Monorail in one go and their journey time on the trains will also be reduced.
With this in mind, 12 sets of new four-car trains will be built and used for the existing monorail under a contract agreement inked between Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd (Prasarana) and Scomi Rail Bhd (Scomi).
The RM494 million project is scheduled to be completed by July 2013. The first set of four-car trains will be running starting November 15 2012.
The new four-car trains will be able to load on an average of 118 passengers per car, compared to the existing car-trains that can fit only 107 passengers per car.
Scomi Engineering Bhd chairman Datuk Zainun Aishah Ahmad said the current two-car trains are serving at 35 per cent over capacity and it is projected that this number will increase substantially by 2012.
"To meet this demand, Prasarana has contracted Scomi to double the capacity of the current KL monorail line to 6,400 passengers per hour per direction with the new four-car-trains," she said.
Meanwhile, Scomi group chief executive officer Shah Hakim Zain said besides providing the new four-car trains, Scomi will also improve the individual monorail stations by increasing the length of platforms and improve the current stations condition.
He added that Scomi will install a new signalling system for the trains, so that "it will allow us to move into driverless technology in the future."
He was speaking to reporters at a press conference after the signing ceremony yesterday. Also present was the Transport Minister Datuk Seri Kong Cho Ha.
Kong said the project is part of the government's National Key Result Areas, its objective is to increase the ridership capacity for the KL Monorail Line by end-2012 and to enhance the comfort and convenience to KL commuters.
Wow..I never thought that the current monorail can cater the average 107 passengers per car which mean 214 passengers per trip. The new Scomi monorail then will cater 118x 4 = 472 or maybe squeeze up to 500 passengers per trip. :nuts:
tunomura December 2nd, 2011, 12:45 AM KL Monorail is just a feeder line or relief line...so, with 4-car set train, it should be good enough to cater traffic from LRT/MRT line...:cheers:
allurban December 2nd, 2011, 02:18 AM Wow..I never thought that the current monorail can cater the average 107 passengers per car which mean 214 passengers per trip. The new Scomi monorail then will cater 118x 4 = 472 or maybe squeeze up to 500 passengers per trip. :nuts:this is really strange, the other article has different numbers, 98 and 128...
Very strange, who has the accurate number??
Cheers, m
kl 2020 ideas December 2nd, 2011, 03:43 AM KL Monorail is just a feeder line or relief line...so, with 4-car set train, it should be good enough to cater traffic from LRT/MRT line...:cheers:
I don't think so. Kelana Jaya before upgrading was 370 passengers. And this is like shy before 500 passengers. Unless we're talking 6-car, it might be sufficient. If you want 4-car set, save the current two car set and deploy it during rush hour.
In Singapore every 12pm-2pm they have a Lunch Xpress. It's frequency is 3.5 minutes compare to the current 8 minute interval. We should have something like this.
Another option is to retain the two car carriage as the express system. Example is a train depart from KL Sentral to Maharajalela without stopping at Tun Sambanthan. Then from Maharajalela straight towards Bukit Bintang passing by Imbi and Hang Tuah. This is practice in countries like the New York Metro System. Hope this helps.
hafidz jon December 2nd, 2011, 05:57 AM with train on 2 running rails,this is possible.but to make an express train on MoNorail,i can't imagine.
btw,i like the tokyo monorail,it can carry 400k pessanger per day.wonder how they can make it.or is it because of the boxy train that they can crush in more ppl inside.something should be learn.
TWK90 December 2nd, 2011, 11:26 AM with train on 2 running rails,this is possible.but to make an express train on MoNorail,i can't imagine.
btw,i like the tokyo monorail,it can carry 400k pessanger per day.wonder how they can make it.or is it because of the boxy train that they can crush in more ppl inside.something should be learn.
Tokyo Monorail was built for mass transit in the first place.
Hitachi has several types of monorail, the one in Tokyo Monorail is the "medium" type. It has 6 carriages.
bukhrin December 2nd, 2011, 07:36 PM I don't think so. Kelana Jaya before upgrading was 370 passengers. And this is like shy before 500 passengers. Unless we're talking 6-car, it might be sufficient. If you want 4-car set, save the current two car set and deploy it during rush hour.
In Singapore every 12pm-2pm they have a Lunch Xpress. It's frequency is 3.5 minutes compare to the current 8 minute interval. We should have something like this.
Another option is to retain the two car carriage as the express system. Example is a train depart from KL Sentral to Maharajalela without stopping at Tun Sambanthan. Then from Maharajalela straight towards Bukit Bintang passing by Imbi and Hang Tuah. This is practice in countries like the New York Metro System. Hope this helps.
With a system this short with closely spaced stations, I don't think express services would make much difference. Still with no sidings and with crossovers and single tracks at terminals, bunching could be a problem.
allurban December 3rd, 2011, 07:50 AM With a system this short with closely spaced stations, I don't think express services would make much difference. Still with no sidings and with crossovers and single tracks at terminals, bunching could be a problem.I think the signalling system & crossover can only handle a maximum of 16 trains per hour anyways. That's frequency slightly worse than 4 minutes between trains - if the situation is normal.
So 12 trains would be more than enough to service the line. Adding capacity would certainly help maintain frequencies, but if it is till too low for the demand and people are still pushing to board the first train rather than waiting 4 or 5 minutes for the next one - well they're not going to get the crowding problem resolved.
cheers, m
allurban December 11th, 2011, 05:19 AM Preview of comments on the proposal to extend the monorail to Tmn Gembira / Jalan Klang Lama:
TRANSIT Says:
We think that the KL Monorail extension south to Jalan Klang Lama is a prime example of "what not to do" when it comes to public transport planning.
The original plan for the monorail, which was to run from Titiwangsa to Kg. Pasir on Jalan Klang Lama is some decades old. It was part of the unrealistic plan to build the KL Linear City over and along the Klang river which was abandoned during the 1997 Financial Crisis.
Only one part of the monorail, from Titiwangsa to KL Sentral, was actually built, opening in 2003. The monorail also lost a station (Sultan Sulaiman) from the original proposal. Occasionally since 2003 the KL Monorail operator would make statements about plans to revive pieces of the project, such as building the car parks or talking about an extension to MidValley, but nothing has come from those proposals. And fortunately, since the takeover by Prasarana in late 2007, we have not been subjected to these silly proposals.
So the first "big problem" with the monorail extension is this attempt to revive the old plan. Unfortunately, it is quite likely that the proposed extension will be costly and technically challenging - especially trying to thread the KL Monorail past the Federal Highway! In addition there is the capacity problem - it will be hard for the monorail, even with 4-carriage or 6-carriage trains, to carry the existing passengers who want to go to & from MidValley.
SPAD wants to send a monorail to do an MRT's job. This is a recipe for disaster.
The second problem is that the monorail extension to Taman Gembira (or Jalan Gembira) would not be particularly effective. Sure, it would provide another connection to MidValley MegaMall, somehow, but in terms of public transport networking, the terminal is particularly poor. It would be much more effective to extend the rail line southeast through OUG & Kinrara or directly south to Jalan Puchong, or even southwest to Bandar Sunway, than to leave it at Jalan Klang Lama - especially if the goal is to attract passengers from the south side of KL.
But again, if the extension is integrated with other lines or extended further south there will be capacity issues, which will lead to other problems.
The third big problem is the issue of integration with the existing monorail at Tun Sambanthan station. In the original design, the monorail would have continued from Tun Sambanthan station southwards, bypassing Brickfields, while service to KL Sentral station (then called Brickfields) was to have been accomplished by a shuttle train.
But if the extension is built, there will have to be a process to integrate the two lines. Through-running of the monorail would be next to impossible (have you seen a double-track monorail switch?) which means that passengers who wanted to continue on into KL or transfer to KL Sentral would likely have to switch to an overloaded KL Monorail train. This sounds not only inconvenient but very problematic as both lines would likely be affected.
The fourth problem to consider is the role of the MRT Circle Line. The original proposals had the line running through Brickfields and servicing MidValley and the Tenaga Nasional Lands, as well as Universiti Malaya. If this is the plan, then why duplicate services through Brickfields?
The ideal solution for TRANSIT is to take the KL Monorail and leave it to do what it can do best - provide a people mover service around the inner areas of Kuala Lumpur. Indeed, the best solution is to provide a new monorail line that would extend down to MidValley, but would also serve Bangsar & the Government developments at Jalan Duta, reaching up to Jalan Ipoh before coming back southwards to Titiwangsa integrated station.
We are not talking about building a Monorail "Circle Line" but rather, providing additional people mover lines that will connect the radial routes provided by KTM Komuter, the LRT and the future MRT. A monorail through Bangsar would integrate with KTM Komuter (at MidValley, Abdullah Hukum, and Jalan Ipoh), the LRT (at Abdullah Hukum and Titiwangsa) and the MRT (at KL Sentral, MidValley, and Pusat Bandar Damansara).
More importantly, it would be an effective use of monorail technology, which is suited to people moving rather than mass-transit, and is especially effective in tight areas and hilly areas - like Bangsar, Pusat Bandar Damansara and the government complexes at Jalan Duta.
Building a monorail along a flat river bank, or along a wide road like Jalan Klang Lama (which has lots of room for an elevated MRT) is a pointless activity that does not demonstrate the abilities of a monorail, and would most likely give us a line that is poorly connected and too small and too slow to meet the needs of KL's growing population.We will be making this post on Monday. Your feedback is welcome.
Cheers, m
TWK90 December 11th, 2011, 06:53 AM ^^
I guess, we should see something like this.
MRT/LRT = Connecting suburban areas to city centre
Monorail = Inner city transit, more like APM system in Guangzhou
When MRT 1 completed, KL Monorail will be more towards inner city transit, as a number of its stations are connected with higher capacity rail transit.
- KL Sentral (a walk to the main KL Sentral)
- Hang Tuah (Ampang line)
- Bukit Bintang (in future with MRT 1)
- Titiwangsa (Ampang line)
mrtfreak December 11th, 2011, 04:12 PM I think the monorail would be good at connecting the different lines as it can be seen so far. It connects the KTM at KL Sentral with Ampang Line at Hang Tuah and Titiwangsa. It can serve the role of passengers transfering between lines, especially for the MRT at Bukit Bintang for instance.
Take the example of a commuter from Jelatek intending to transfer to the MRT to Cochrane... Instead of going Jelatek - Pasar Seni - Cochrane, they could opt for Jelatek - Dang Wangi/Bukit Nanas - Bukit Bintang - Cochrane. Its a bad example I know, but the only one I can think of to demonstrate what I mean.
That is also why I suggested it be extended to the Sri Petaling line or Sunway. The monorail is clearly not meant to be a central backbone line. Instead it is better suited to being a feeder line, encouraging quick hops from line to line. The advantage of placing a monorail in Sunway though would be that it can fit into the constricted footprint that Sunway currently possesses. Also, I think construction can be quicker as the guideway is also the running rail for the trains as compared to the LRT/MRT option where the guideway (viaduct) must be built and then the rails installed after.
heikal December 11th, 2011, 07:21 PM Preview of comments on the proposal to extend the monorail to Tmn Gembira / Jalan Klang Lama:
We will be making this post on Monday. Your feedback is welcome.
Cheers, m
allurban,
Based on the TRANSIT feedback as quoted, is SPAD trying to implement Monorail as our MRT?
allurban December 12th, 2011, 01:41 AM allurban,
Based on the TRANSIT feedback as quoted, is SPAD trying to implement Monorail as our MRT?no, the monorail is still going to be a monorail, not an MRT.
The question is, does that corridor (Jalan Klang Lama & Klang River south of Brickfields) actually need MRT instead of monorail?
We do not believe that monorail will have the capacity to meet the demand. Users who want to travel from Jalan Klang Lama to and from KL will have trouble finding space on the monorail. Since there is demand to use the monorail to go to MidValley, it's likely that a 4-carriage monorail will not have enough capacity.
We asked them to provide the projected demand for Sg. Buloh - Kajang line to see if "MRT" is justified - but actually the "MRT" will only have capacity of 25,000 passengers per hour per direction ... barely touching the MRT service levels.
The monorail currently has a capacity of 3000-3200 passengers per hour per direction and is 35% over capacity. With 4-carriage trains it will have a supposed capacity of 6,400 passengers per hour per direction. But if demand is 7,000 passengers or so, what it going to happen to the monorail?
And if the monorail is extended to Sunway or Puchong or wherever, there will be increased demand as well.
That's why we want to see those numbers.
Cheers, m
allurban December 12th, 2011, 01:43 AM I think the monorail would be good at connecting the different lines as it can be seen so far. It connects the KTM at KL Sentral with Ampang Line at Hang Tuah and Titiwangsa. It can serve the role of passengers transfering between lines, especially for the MRT at Bukit Bintang for instance.
Take the example of a commuter from Jelatek intending to transfer to the MRT to Cochrane... Instead of going Jelatek - Pasar Seni - Cochrane, they could opt for Jelatek - Dang Wangi/Bukit Nanas - Bukit Bintang - Cochrane. Its a bad example I know, but the only one I can think of to demonstrate what I mean.
That is also why I suggested it be extended to the Sri Petaling line or Sunway. The monorail is clearly not meant to be a central backbone line. Instead it is better suited to being a feeder line, encouraging quick hops from line to line. The advantage of placing a monorail in Sunway though would be that it can fit into the constricted footprint that Sunway currently possesses. Also, I think construction can be quicker as the guideway is also the running rail for the trains as compared to the LRT/MRT option where the guideway (viaduct) must be built and then the rails installed after.A monorail for Sunway might be a good idea, but a monorail from KL to Sunway is not going to be a wise investment.
Monorails work best in hilly places with tight turns, places where standard trains cannot go - and we have enough of those places in the Klang Valley - like Bangsar, much of PJ, Jalan Duta, and others. Let the monorail serve those areas as a people mover.
Cheers, m
allurban December 12th, 2011, 06:03 AM here is the post on the proposed KL Monorail extension: http://transitmy.wordpress.com/2011/12/12/monorail-extension-to-jalan-klang-lama-will-it-help-or-hurt-existing-monorail-service/
Cheers, m
mrtfreak December 12th, 2011, 11:00 AM A monorail for Sunway might be a good idea, but a monorail from KL to Sunway is not going to be a wise investment.
Monorails work best in hilly places with tight turns, places where standard trains cannot go - and we have enough of those places in the Klang Valley - like Bangsar, much of PJ, Jalan Duta, and others. Let the monorail serve those areas as a people mover.
Cheers, m
Probably. :) It could connect Sunway very well to either the Sri Petaling line or KTM Port Klang line. These would channel people onto lines with direct connections to KL. If they wanted, it could also connect to the Kelana Jaya line for more options. Not too sure if there is sufficient space within Sunway to have a depot either, so it may have to be located away from the Sunway area.
allurban December 13th, 2011, 07:01 AM Bombardier INNOVIA monorail claims passenger capacity of up to 40,000 passengers per hour per direction.
http://www.bombardier.com/en/transportation/products-services/rail-vehicles/automated-monorails?docID=0901260d8000a7e4
Cheers, m
TWK90 December 13th, 2011, 07:26 AM ^^
Not to forget the current record holder for monorail, the Tokyo Monorail, able to handle 300,000 passengers daily despite the system is actually Hitachi "medium" type monorail, though the trains are 6 carriage long each.
Personally, for main line haul purpose, MRT (or longer LRT) is better, because of the door formation, as well as the ride quality on steel wheel on rail trains are better than monorail.
tunomura December 15th, 2011, 11:23 PM Monorail stranded at Jalan Imbi...:ohno:
http://ondscene.my/operasi-menyelamat/monorel-rosak-160-penumpang-terkandas#more-17526
mrtfreak December 16th, 2011, 02:39 AM Seems to be happening everywhere. The writer should be thankful they were only stranded for half an hour? We had an MRT service disruption yesterday where people were trapped underground for over an hour...
ggtalents December 16th, 2011, 06:18 PM Seems to be happening everywhere. The writer should be thankful they were only stranded for half an hour? We had an MRT service disruption yesterday where people were trapped underground for over an hour...
11 underground station, 126k commuter, 5 hour service down...it's really nightmare for passenger...plus it happen during end of office hour...huhu...
bukhrin December 16th, 2011, 11:44 PM Monorail stranded at Jalan Imbi...:ohno:
http://ondscene.my/operasi-menyelamat/monorel-rosak-160-penumpang-terkandas#more-17526
Hope that for the new monorails at least will have the emergency ventilation windows and with the safety walkways completed, the passengers won't be left dangling for too long, currently the only way they have for evacuation is by using the skylifts, have not heard if they have procedure to run another monorail alongside it to use as an escape train.
But what is certain, in case of monorails on fire right now, given the time taken by the fire rescue to get through the traffic, and the safety walkways not yet completed, the results would be disastrous.
tunomura December 17th, 2011, 01:07 AM ^^ Suddenly i'm afraid to use monorail :lol:
dengilo December 17th, 2011, 01:14 AM Yeah especially morning and evening peak/rush hour!Those trains are packed like sardines!Are there any ventilation window on those trains if the A/C system fails?
bukhrin December 17th, 2011, 06:26 AM Yeah especially morning and evening peak/rush hour!Those trains are packed like sardines!Are there any ventilation window on those trains if the A/C system fails?
Don't think so, but would you ask the driver to open the door to let air in ? :P. Think that SPAD should make train windows with emergency ventilations compulsory. But then SPAD really hasnt done anything yet so far.
tunomura December 17th, 2011, 01:16 PM Don't think so, but would you ask the driver to open the door to let air in ? :P. Think that SPAD should make train windows with emergency ventilations compulsory. But then SPAD really hasnt done anything yet so far.
Monorail should have evacuation slide just like an aircraft...
http://www3.surrey.ac.uk/eng/InfoPoint/mddp/mddp07/WindsorLR-2/images/escape.png
:cheers:
PlanetNova December 17th, 2011, 03:29 PM Monorail facilities are just not up to mark. Saw people carrying baby strollers to climb the staircase at bukit bintang station. Who is the designer of the stations? Really really stupid and third world.
Also toilets are either "out of service" or dirty as hell. Trains are small and ride is bumpy. I won't be surprised if the whole thing is demolished one day.
greater KL December 17th, 2011, 04:38 PM Monorail facilities are just not up to mark. Saw people carrying baby strollers to climb the staircase at bukit bintang station. Who is the designer of the stations? Really really stupid and third world.
Also toilets are either "out of service" or dirty as hell. Trains are small and ride is bumpy. I won't be surprised if the whole thing is demolished one day.
just wait until the completion of MRT 1...
i think KL monorail will not be cramped as usual anymore...:)
mrtfreak December 17th, 2011, 06:18 PM Hope that for the new monorails at least will have the emergency ventilation windows and with the safety walkways completed, the passengers won't be left dangling for too long, currently the only way they have for evacuation is by using the skylifts, have not heard if they have procedure to run another monorail alongside it to use as an escape train.
But what is certain, in case of monorails on fire right now, given the time taken by the fire rescue to get through the traffic, and the safety walkways not yet completed, the results would be disastrous.
I read somewhere before that they had planned to have abridged evacuation. One train to another.
Monorail facilities are just not up to mark. Saw people carrying baby strollers to climb the staircase at bukit bintang station. Who is the designer of the stations? Really really stupid and third world.
Also toilets are either "out of service" or dirty as hell. Trains are small and ride is bumpy. I won't be surprised if the whole thing is demolished one day.
They have plans to upgrade in future with lifts.
11 underground station, 126k commuter, 5 hour service down...it's really nightmare for passenger...plus it happen during end of office hour...huhu...
It happened again today... I think today the MRT was down for 6 hours.
ggtalents December 18th, 2011, 11:18 AM It happened again today... I think today the MRT was down for 6 hours.[/QUOTE]
Really? OMG...what happen to the wolrd class public transport system..huhu...
CoolFellas December 18th, 2011, 11:47 AM It happened again today... I think today the MRT was down for 6 hours.
Really? OMG...what happen to the wolrd class public transport system..huhu...[/QUOTE]
It is because all new technologies depend on the computer system. Same goes here every time the winter comes, many cars broke down and stalled on the roads due to most new cars are computerised and the wiring system connected each other. They are easily get halt compared to the old engine system. But those public transport can be avoided for such errors and glitches with the proper maintenance and continuously upgrading the system. Nothing is perfect in this world!
Khaw December 18th, 2011, 12:37 PM Monorail stranded at Jalan Imbi...:ohno:
http://ondscene.my/operasi-menyelamat/monorel-rosak-160-penumpang-terkandas#more-17526
Hmmm...I can hear the famous excuse already i.e. "teething problems" and to that I say "get a real car, buddy."
nazrey December 19th, 2011, 07:11 AM Longer KL Monorail trains for shorter commuting time
Monday December 19, 2011
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/12/19/nation/10098141&sec=nation
KUALA LUMPUR: Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd (Prasarana) will replace its current two-car trains with new four-car trains for the KL Monorail line service.
The agreement was signed on Nov 30 with Scomi Rail Bhd, which will provide the 12 trains that can ferry 6,400 passengers per hour in a single direction.
Transport Minister Datuk Seri Kong Cho Ha, who was present at the signing, said the monorail service was currently operating 35% above its intended capacity.
He said the Government decided to double the capacity of the monorail fleet within two years with the new trains as it had foreseen the service risks operating 85% over capacity in the next few years.
Kong said the first 10 trains would begin operating in November next year while the remaining two would be available for service in July 2013.
Under the contract worth RM494mil, Scomi Rail will also upgrade the monorail stations, electrical and mechanical systems, and construct a new depot to accommodate the expected increase in ridership and length of the new trains.
Scomi Group chief executive officer Shah Hakim Zain said the entire project would be completed in July 2013.
Prasarana group managing director Datuk Shahril Mokhtar said commuters could expect shorter travel times once the new trains were operational as they were better designed in terms of performance and efficiency.
Improvements to the monorail service are in line with efforts under the GTP's Urban Public Transport NKRA to significantly enhance urban public transport to encourage higher ridership and less reliance on personal vehicles.
dengilo December 19th, 2011, 01:40 PM What the heck are they doing with the titiwangsa station?Who in the right mind would shut down the fast lane under the station?Oh what the heck its only Jalan tun razak!
D_Y2k.2^ December 19th, 2011, 01:43 PM What the heck are they doing with the titiwangsa station?Who in the right mind would shut down the fast lane under the station?Oh what the heck its only Jalan tun razak!
Same goes to Jln Imbi
dengilo December 19th, 2011, 04:55 PM Simply reckless!:bash:Can u imagine at peak rush hour ,its bad enough without the closure!I simply cannot understand that DBKL do not have sense of urgency to make sure that these contractors complete whatever they doing at super speed rate to the point of making them work 24 hrs:ohno:Half the time when i go by the site not a soul on site!:bash:
mrtfreak December 19th, 2011, 05:40 PM What are the roads closed for?
bukhrin December 19th, 2011, 05:52 PM Must be the works for the monorail station improvement by Scomi, saw some platform extension work done at Chow Kit Station as well.
mrtfreak December 19th, 2011, 07:02 PM I see. Perhaps for the walkways they are installing too... Thanks for the info.
greater KL December 21st, 2011, 12:56 AM finally they want to put the 4 car monorail train into service..
Good....
dengilo December 27th, 2011, 04:24 PM :wtf:Could someone out there tell me whats going on with the monorel stations in town(Street level ) somekind of micro piling machines.Shutting down the fast lane on all the major roads is simply unthinkable elsewhere but here is no big deal ha! thanks DBKL!:bash:
hafidz jon December 27th, 2011, 04:43 PM :wtf:Could someone out there tell me whats going on with the monorel stations in town(Street level ) somekind of micro piling machines.Shutting down the fast lane on all the major roads is simply unthinkable elsewhere but here is no big deal ha! thanks DBKL!:bash:
perhaps to upgrade station for more oku friendly,i.e install ramps to access to both platform from under track.
greater KL December 27th, 2011, 05:18 PM :wtf:Could someone out there tell me whats going on with the monorel stations in town(Street level ) somekind of micro piling machines.Shutting down the fast lane on all the major roads is simply unthinkable elsewhere but here is no big deal ha! thanks DBKL!:bash:
maybe to build escalators.....
asd5139 December 28th, 2011, 05:41 AM http://n.breaknews.com/sub_read.html?uid=195945§ion=sc3
http://ntn.seoul.co.kr/?c=news&m=view&idx=124830
http://www.datanet.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=58457
Product of LG CNS.
Seoul Metro Line 1-9 are equipped with the same PSD.
All 11 Monorail Station will have the same PSD.
Project Start from December 2011 and take 20 months to complete.
Cost 4 Billion won = roughly RM12M.
tunomura December 28th, 2011, 02:44 PM http://n.breaknews.com/sub_read.html?uid=195945§ion=sc3
http://ntn.seoul.co.kr/?c=news&m=view&idx=124830
http://www.datanet.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=58457
Product of LG CNS.
Seoul Metro Line 1-9 are equipped with the same PSD.
All 11 Monorail Station will have the same PSD.
Project Start from December 2011 and take 20 months to complete.
Cost 4 Billion won = roughly RM12M.
^^Thank You for that info~~
Here info from Hopetech http://www.hopetech.com.my/ProductServicesSub.aspx?id=2&sid=25
Platform Automatic Gate System
Overview
Platform Screen Door (PSD) consists of a few types of doors that are installed on a platform of a train station to separate the platform area from the track area mainly for safety reasons. These doors include:
• Automatic Sliding Doors
• Emergency Egress Doors
• Platform End Doors
• Other doors according to the environment of the station.
Among these doors, the sliding doors are installed corresponding to the doors of a train which cares to stop there itself. PSD sliding doors are in operational synchronization with the train doors via the signaling system or direct communication with the train.
Platform Screen Doors benefits the train stations in several ways:
• Providing Safety for the passengers by isolating the platform from the track.
• Providing Safety and reducing costs by preventing drop of objects and other elements on the track.
• Preventing unauthorized access to the track
• Assuring movement of the passengers to and from the train only when the authorization is issued and train and platform doors are ready for passage.
• Assuring the train movement happens only when there is no more passage between train and platform. This prevents passengers from being stuck and dragged by the train.
• Preventing social disasters such as suicide cases.
• Bringing Aesthetic values to the stations
http://www.hopetech.com.my/files/pages/201106011803033558.png
http://www.hopetech.com.my/files/pages/201106011805045530.png
http://www.datanet.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=58457
dengilo December 28th, 2011, 05:25 PM Thats good news its about time!But do they need to reinforce the platforms with additional piling work for the extra load?
Skyprince December 28th, 2011, 05:36 PM I think all stations must be fully covered and Air-conditioned. I don't like the ads on monorails and monorail stations in KL, they tarnish the good look of monorails and stations, making them look cheap :(
mrtfreak December 29th, 2011, 03:03 PM Thats good news its about time!But do they need to reinforce the platforms with additional piling work for the extra load?
Should not be needed. Other countries have retrofitted their platforms with screen gates and not needed extra reinforcements - Hong Kong, Paris & Singapore to name a few. They just run extra wiring and a room to store the hardware. Some modification to the platform is needed, such as placing in the support frames where the connections are to be made. But apart from that, nothing is needed. I think what you are trying to ask is in relation to the micro-piling you mentioned right? That should have no relation to the PSG installation.
bukhrin December 29th, 2011, 04:48 PM Should not be needed. Other countries have retrofitted their platforms with screen gates and not needed extra reinforcements - Hong Kong, Paris & Singapore to name a few. They just run extra wiring and a room to store the hardware. Some modification to the platform is needed, such as placing in the support frames where the connections are to be made. But apart from that, nothing is needed. I think what you are trying to ask is in relation to the micro-piling you mentioned right? That should have no relation to the PSG installation.
Bukit Bintang already have Platform Edge Doors installed, never had to do much piling or modification there.
dengilo December 29th, 2011, 04:52 PM Should not be needed. Other countries have retrofitted their platforms with screen gates and not needed extra reinforcements - Hong Kong, Paris & Singapore to name a few. They just run extra wiring and a room to store the hardware. Some modification to the platform is needed, such as placing in the support frames where the connections are to be made. But apart from that, nothing is needed. I think what you are trying to ask is in relation to the micro-piling you mentioned right? That should have no relation to the PSG installation.
Thats what i thought too!But i cant help noticing every time i drive by the stations there is some micropiling going on street level!:)
dengilo December 29th, 2011, 04:55 PM Bukit Bintang already have Platform Edge Doors installed, never had to do much piling or modification there.
That particular station is solid as a rock!It has a totally different design compared to other stations.Most of the other stations i remember it being pre fab type.
boxxy December 29th, 2011, 04:57 PM can anyone comment on the recently installed steel bars which is added between the monorail tracks, what is its purpose? As far as I have seen, it seems to be installed at both curved and straight sections.
dengilo December 29th, 2011, 05:01 PM Emergency access !Thats all i can think of.Not sure if its for the entire length of the tracks if thats the case its a little extremelah.
allurban December 30th, 2011, 07:41 AM can anyone comment on the recently installed steel bars which is added between the monorail tracks, what is its purpose? As far as I have seen, it seems to be installed at both curved and straight sections.emergency walkway - the monorail never had one and it is kind of an important safety feature.
Cheers, m
James Foong January 3rd, 2012, 05:10 PM :wtf:Could someone out there tell me whats going on with the monorel stations in town(Street level ) somekind of micro piling machines.Shutting down the fast lane on all the major roads is simply unthinkable elsewhere but here is no big deal ha! thanks DBKL!:bash:
Platform strengthening with additional piers and beams for platform expansion.
dengilo January 4th, 2012, 12:39 AM Platform strengthening with additional piers and beams for platform expansion.
Thanks james.Thats what i found out yesterday when i took a closer look at project board:)
allurban January 4th, 2012, 07:25 AM Platform strengthening with additional piers and beams for platform expansion.
how much of an expansion are they talking about?
Cheers, m
patchay January 4th, 2012, 07:42 AM how much of an expansion are they talking about?
Cheers, m
to accommodate the 4 train sets?
dengilo January 4th, 2012, 09:52 AM to accommodate the 4 train sets?
Most likely thats the case from what i see at street level.:)and i wonder if they doing it the pre fab way?
James Foong January 4th, 2012, 11:59 AM allurban - Not really sure how much they ll expand. All we can see logically is to accommodate 4-cars because the existing platform is barely enough to fit.
dengilo - i agree prefab is the preferred method.
mrtfreak January 4th, 2012, 12:02 PM how much of an expansion are they talking about?
Cheers, m
That's what I'm wondering. All stations are built to accomodate longer trains without the need for major modification I'm sure.
to accommodate the 4 train sets?
If you mean the 4-car SUTRA trains, hasn't that already been catered for? I'm pretty sure all stations are built for more than 2-cars only, with Bukit Bintang being the longest.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l74/Thaitransit/KL%20Trip%20KL%20Monorail/P1010807a.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l74/Thaitransit/KL%20Trip%20KL%20Monorail/P1010807a.jpg
^^ Bukit Bintang platform
http://cache.virtualtourist.com/15/4728828-I_TOOK_THE_MONORAILGREAT_TRANSPORT_IN_KL_Kuala_Lumpur.jpg
http://cache.virtualtourist.com/15/4728828-I_TOOK_THE_MONORAILGREAT_TRANSPORT_IN_KL_Kuala_Lumpur.jpg
^^ Bukit Nanas platform
allurban January 5th, 2012, 04:56 AM That's what I'm wondering. All stations are built to accomodate longer trains without the need for major modification I'm sure.
If you mean the 4-car SUTRA trains, hasn't that already been catered for? I'm pretty sure all stations are built for more than 2-cars only, with Bukit Bintang being the longest.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l74/Thaitransit/KL%20Trip%20KL%20Monorail/P1010807a.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l74/Thaitransit/KL%20Trip%20KL%20Monorail/P1010807a.jpg
^^ Bukit Bintang platform
http://cache.virtualtourist.com/15/4728828-I_TOOK_THE_MONORAILGREAT_TRANSPORT_IN_KL_Kuala_Lumpur.jpg
http://cache.virtualtourist.com/15/4728828-I_TOOK_THE_MONORAILGREAT_TRANSPORT_IN_KL_Kuala_Lumpur.jpg
^^ Bukit Nanas platform
yeah, that's why I'm a bit confused. I thought the monorail was designed with platform capacity for 4-carriage trains.
Perhaps the SUTRA monorail is somewhat heavier than a 2 x KL monorail trainset would be?
Alternatively, perhaps when the monorail project began after the financial crisis, the strength of the platforms was reduced as one of the modifications to the project, along with the sacrificing of emergency walkways, the loss of a station at Sultan Suleiman, and the through routing of the monorail to "KL Sentral" station (instead of the shuttle train that was part of the original plan).
Cheers, m
daeng_jal January 5th, 2012, 06:04 AM ohh, i though they are gonna provide lift for the disable, more tangga berjalan,
dengilo January 5th, 2012, 10:35 AM I thought they putting in the toilet terapung!:nuts:If they are really extending the platforms i dont know what to saylah surely they thought of it back then one day they they will add more coaches in the future!Oh ya i forgetlah this is bolehland future planning is totally not necessary :)
mrtfreak January 5th, 2012, 03:58 PM yeah, that's why I'm a bit confused. I thought the monorail was designed with platform capacity for 4-carriage trains.
Perhaps the SUTRA monorail is somewhat heavier than a 2 x KL monorail trainset would be?
Alternatively, perhaps when the monorail project began after the financial crisis, the strength of the platforms was reduced as one of the modifications to the project, along with the sacrificing of emergency walkways, the loss of a station at Sultan Suleiman, and the through routing of the monorail to "KL Sentral" station (instead of the shuttle train that was part of the original plan).
Cheers, m
My thoughts too... I thought Sultan Sulaiman was pushed into the future? There seem to be what appear to look like provisions between Tun Sanbanthan and Maharajalela.
TWK90 January 5th, 2012, 04:38 PM According to this writing which appeared on JRTR (Japanese railway magazine)...the platform length for KL Monorail station is 40 m.
http://www.jrtr.net/jrtr35/pdf/f21_moh.pdf
http://www.scomirail.com.my/pdf/Scomi_Rail_Product_Brochure.pdf
While according to Scomi, the length of 4 carriage long Sutra monorail is 45.4 m.
That means, KL Monorail station platform has to be lengthened to accommodate Sutra trains.
heikal January 5th, 2012, 05:57 PM I really really wish that KL Monorail could be extended beyond the city, more localized since monorail is quieter for the rubber tires, and could move people within the location where standard trains are not able to do so i.e. tight curves, small spaces.
The new SUTRA Monorail is hoped to be able to offer smoother ride without the bumpy and jumpy coaches, faster since the current monorail I considered too slow for urban commuting.
And last but not least, I hope that the design of the station could be renovated especially the tourist attraction/corporate offices/sophisticated malls stations.
Just my dreams before I die... :)
mrtfreak January 5th, 2012, 06:02 PM According to this writing which appeared on JRTR (Japanese railway magazine)...the platform length for KL Monorail station is 40 m.
http://www.jrtr.net/jrtr35/pdf/f21_moh.pdf
http://www.scomirail.com.my/pdf/Scomi_Rail_Product_Brochure.pdf
While according to Scomi, the length of 4 carriage long Sutra monorail is 45.4 m.
That means, KL Monorail station platform has to be lengthened to accommodate Sutra trains.
I saw elsewhere that the platforms were built at 60m long.
The stations are approximately 22 m wide and 65 m long, supported on columns in the road median, spaced at 13, 12 and 13 m.
http://www.andrewgrantham.co.uk/tag/malaysia/
Also saw it on some manufacturer's website, but forgot where now...
Some nostalgia for you...
http://www.grantham.karoo.net/andrew/pictures/rail/my02-mono.jpg
*Picture is too big and messes with the margins
daeng_jal January 5th, 2012, 06:10 PM I really really wish that KL Monorail could be extended beyond the city, more localized since monorail is quieter for the rubber tires, and could move people within the location where standard trains are not able to do so i.e. tight curves, small spaces.
The new SUTRA Monorail is hoped to be able to offer smoother ride without the bumpy and jumpy coaches, faster since the current monorail I considered too slow for urban commuting.
And last but not least, I hope that the design of the station could be renovated especially the tourist attraction/corporate offices/sophisticated malls stations.
Just my dreams before I die... :)
ikut najib revealed plan bukan monorail extended to jalan kelang lama ker?
mr deng,monorail now got toilet ler..shitting above traffic is a very satisfying:nuts:
gabriellim January 6th, 2012, 12:07 AM According to this writing which appeared on JRTR (Japanese railway magazine)...the platform length for KL Monorail station is 40 m.
http://www.jrtr.net/jrtr35/pdf/f21_moh.pdf
http://www.scomirail.com.my/pdf/Scomi_Rail_Product_Brochure.pdf
While according to Scomi, the length of 4 carriage long Sutra monorail is 45.4 m.
That means, KL Monorail station platform has to be lengthened to accommodate Sutra trains.
But we don't need to accomodate the whole rake in the platform right? All we need is to make sure that we can accomodate the distance between the first and last doors.
Some more it's not like they gonna build platform screen doors, so the problem of matching platform doors and coach doors doesn't arise, for the foreseeable future. :)
semsemyee January 6th, 2012, 07:19 PM was taking kl monorail, i heard one the foreign visitors said, its a piece of shit , when he was recording the scene in kl monorail. [its embarrassing! ]
bukhrin January 6th, 2012, 07:52 PM Too bad they used carbon fibers instead of the usual aluminium body shell for their trains (weight advantage). but they tend to discolor. And hopefully the new Sutra trains would use better shock absorbent bogies to deal with the uneven bumpy tracks.
allurban January 7th, 2012, 07:16 AM My thoughts too... I thought Sultan Sulaiman was pushed into the future? There seem to be what appear to look like provisions between Tun Sanbanthan and Maharajalela.I've heard of underground stations being roughed in, and KL has the example of Sri Rampai...but I don't think I've ever seen or heard of a monorail station being added to an existing monorail line.
I suppose it is possible. In any case, they are going to have to do something when they shut down the monorail to complete the extension ... unless they decide to build the extension as a spur line.
Cheers, m
mrtfreak January 7th, 2012, 07:26 AM I've heard of underground stations being roughed in, and KL has the example of Sri Rampai...but I don't think I've ever seen or heard of a monorail station being added to an existing monorail line.
I suppose it is possible. In any case, they are going to have to do something when they shut down the monorail to complete the extension ... unless they decide to build the extension as a spur line.
Cheers, m
Singapore had Dover station added on where there was no provision for a station. In any case...
http://youtu.be/0GGYK1yvrDY
^^ Look at 1:04. You'll see some sort of sub-station building with what appear to be stubs at the track level with the typical "traffic light" seen at KL Monorail stations.
bukhrin January 7th, 2012, 11:20 AM I've heard of underground stations being roughed in, and KL has the example of Sri Rampai...but I don't think I've ever seen or heard of a monorail station being added to an existing monorail line.
I suppose it is possible. In any case, they are going to have to do something when they shut down the monorail to complete the extension ... unless they decide to build the extension as a spur line.
Cheers, m
The Sri Rampai station have always been there since Day 1, it's just that it's not furnished and the area around it not developed.
heikal January 7th, 2012, 05:14 PM http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7143/6653057263_3372a42163.jpg
SUTRA in Brazil
Source: http://www.scomigroup.com/weboffice/files/news/12142011_93005AM_Scomi%20signs%20MoU%20with%20MEP%20and%20Brasell_fnl13dec11.pdf
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7169/6653057403_5e94b2cb0d.jpg
SUTRA in Rawang Plant for 33rd ASEAN Railways CEO's Conference
Source: http://www.scomigroup.com/weboffice/files/news/10312011_50417PM_MNR_SEB_KTMB%20visit_21Oct2011%20%281%29.pdf
mrtfreak January 7th, 2012, 05:19 PM http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7143/6653057263_3372a42163.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7143/6653057263_3372a42163.jpg
SUTRA in Brazil
Source: http://www.scomigroup.com/weboffice/files/news/12142011_93005AM_Scomi%20signs%20MoU%20with%20MEP%20and%20Brasell_fnl13dec11.pdf
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7169/6653057403_5e94b2cb0d.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7169/6653057403_5e94b2cb0d.jpg
SUTRA in Rawang Plant for 33rd ASEAN Railways CEO's Conference
Source: http://www.scomigroup.com/weboffice/files/news/10312011_50417PM_MNR_SEB_KTMB%20visit_21Oct2011%20%281%29.pdf
Fixed the IMG tags for you. :)
heikal January 7th, 2012, 05:42 PM Fixed the IMG tags for you. :)
EH? Need to put the URL for the image as well??? :nuts:
I thought we need to put the sources only...
Those images are stored in my flickr...:)
heikal January 7th, 2012, 05:45 PM was taking kl monorail, i heard one the foreign visitors said, its a piece of shit , when he was recording the scene in kl monorail. [its embarrassing! ]
who cares?! we heard the phrase everywhere. Even the Malaysians when they travel overseas i.e. New York, they will say the same thing! Come on la... dont be embarrassed! Take it as a challenge for us to improve...:)
allurban January 8th, 2012, 05:05 AM The Sri Rampai station have always been there since Day 1, it's just that it's not furnished and the area around it not developed.yeah, it's not the best example of "roughed in" but it's the only one from KL.
Toronto's North York Centre station (http://transit.toronto.on.ca/subway/5108.shtml) is the best example of building a completely new station in an underground line that I can think of.
Cheers, m
World 2 World January 8th, 2012, 05:08 AM [QUOTE=heikal;87316270]http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7143/6653057263_3372a42163.jpg
SUTRA in Brazil
Source: [url]
luv d colour scheme:cheers:
bukhrin January 8th, 2012, 06:42 AM Like the design too, hope won't be spoiled by those wrap around ads. He he.
mrtfreak January 8th, 2012, 01:29 PM EH? Need to put the URL for the image as well??? :nuts:
I thought we need to put the sources only...
Those images are stored in my flickr...:)
I usually do as sometimes, the images don't load. So to save time, users can just go ahead and click the link to view the image. :) Its more like a backup plan than having to quote to get the direct link.
guy4versa January 9th, 2012, 01:41 PM del-
World 2 World January 9th, 2012, 03:38 PM ^^ ermmm i hope this is not d final colour scheme n pattern :ohno:
bukhrin January 9th, 2012, 04:23 PM You have got to be kidding!! Aduiiiiiiiii. It's like somebody throw a bucket of paint over it and it's done. Why can't we have something like the mumbai or brazil ones.
TWK90 January 9th, 2012, 05:45 PM I don't like the colour scheme. However, I am happy to see the word "KL Monorail".
Reminds me of its origin in the pre-Prasarana days. Look at the font style.
http://thepublictransport.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/logo-klms.gif
bukhrin January 9th, 2012, 06:29 PM Ha ha, during those final pre-Prasarana days, those KL Monorails staffs/drivers were known to scold and curse their passengers. A fact that I was unfortunate enough to witness.
mrtfreak January 10th, 2012, 12:25 PM Ha ha, during those final pre-Prasarana days, those KL Monorails staffs/drivers were known to scold and curse their passengers. A fact that I was unfortunate enough to witness.
:lol: That's so unthinkable. What were they scolding about? Never heard of train drivers scolding passengers before.
In that render... Why are they using a Singapore MRT map?
daeng_jal January 10th, 2012, 02:20 PM I got scole..because i stay in the monorail at titiewangsA waiting for it to back track to bkt bintang
mrtfreak January 10th, 2012, 03:04 PM I see. I never tried that before, but didn't know scolding would do anything about that either. :ohno:
Vince January 11th, 2012, 09:28 AM who cares?! we heard the phrase everywhere. Even the Malaysians when they travel overseas i.e. New York, they will say the same thing! Come on la... dont be embarrassed! Take it as a challenge for us to improve...:)
Good attitude, I like that!
dengilo January 11th, 2012, 10:09 AM I agree most of those"mat salleh" are just passing thru and very determine not to spend a penny of their money here in the first place!Bunch of cheap skates got no right to make remarks like that in the first place!
bukhrin January 11th, 2012, 11:01 AM I got scole..because i stay in the monorail at titiewangsA waiting for it to back track to bkt bintang
I see. I never tried that before, but didn't know scolding would do anything about that either. :ohno:
Ha ha, yes, daeng_jal is correct. At that time they were defaulting on their loans to their creditors, so it was deemed that all rides will end at the terminal (KL sentral and Titiwangsa) and whoever did not disembark are scolded (to be frank those are more like verbal abuses what with the threatening tones) and were "asked" to buy a new ticket, but most people just ignore it or at the very least, disembark and wait for another train.
But seriously, I found that their drivers and staffs are pretty rude before the Prasarana takeover, especially when people complained about trains not coming on time etc. Big improvements there now.
nazrey January 16th, 2012, 05:00 PM KL monorail fleet expansion project to double passenger capacity
16 January 2012 | last updated at 11:15pm
By Nuradzimmah Daim
http://www.nst.com.my/streets/central/kl-monorail-fleet-expansion-project-to-double-passenger-capacity-1.32746
KUALA LUMPUR: The upgrading works on the KL monorail stations is 27 per cent completed.
Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd's media affairs manager Azhar Ghazali said the upgrading of Medan Tuanku, Imbi, and Raja Chulan stations, which is part of the fleet expansion project, commenced last September.
"Work at the Tun Sambathan, Maharajalela and KL Sentral stations started last November, while work on remaining five stations started in October last year.
"The stations need to be upgraded to cater for the four-car trains due to the increased ridership.
"Traffic and announcement signages including flagmen, blinkers and notices have been put in place to facilitate traffic flow and public safety," he said, adding that the upgrade works are expected to be completed in July next year.
On the design of the new monorail cars which was posted online by Transit (The Association For The Improvement Of Mass Transit) on its website, he said the matter is being looked into.
Transit posted pictures of the new four-car train in two different schemes -- blue and red, with green coloured passenger seats.
It was reported that the project would improve services by increasing the capacity of the trains and improve safety on station platforms.
Scomi Rail Bhd was awarded the RM494 million project for 12 new four-car trains.
The first four trains are expected to start operations on Nov 15.
The new trains will double the capacity of the KL monorail line to 6,400 passengers per hour per direction.
KL Monorail is currently using 12 two-car trains which can accommodate about 200 people per trip and has a daily ridership of 70,000.
The two-car trains are running at 35 per cent over capacity and the ridership is projected to increase.
The upgrade plan will include the installation of automated gates on the platform of the monorail stations which would only open when the train arrives.
nazrey January 16th, 2012, 05:03 PM New 4-carriage KL Monorail trains
http://transitmy.org/2012/01/10/is-this-what-our-new-4-carriage-kl-monorail-trains-will-look-like/
nazrey January 16th, 2012, 05:14 PM The current KL Monorail
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7143/6749361397_8ac2484772_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/azchael/6749361397/)
Monorail System in Kuala Lumpur (http://www.flickr.com/photos/azchael/6749361397/) by Azchael (http://www.flickr.com/people/azchael/), on Flickr
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7015/6595350429_cc97082a15_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/faithful-laurent/6595350429/
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7074/7086431381_315f64cca0_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/52821156@N00/7086431381/)
KL monorail station (http://www.flickr.com/photos/52821156@N00/7086431381/) by i am yj (http://www.flickr.com/people/52821156@N00/), on Flickr
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7018/6559888917_a4436db3c1_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thetaipanofhongkong/6559888917/)
MY-Oct-XI-KL-PublTraff-0039 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thetaipanofhongkong/6559888917/) by Tai Pan of HK (http://www.flickr.com/people/thetaipanofhongkong/), on Flickr
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7024/6559757701_af8207b273_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thetaipanofhongkong/6559757701/)
MY-Oct-XI-KL-PublTraff-0019 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thetaipanofhongkong/6559757701/) by Tai Pan of HK (http://www.flickr.com/people/thetaipanofhongkong/), on Flickr
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7157/6559924775_c389d4c18b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thetaipanofhongkong/6559924775/)
http://farm1.staticflickr.com/183/425640359_362cae966b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67833581@N00/425640359/)
KL Monorail (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67833581@N00/425640359/) by loochie (http://www.flickr.com/people/67833581@N00/), on Flickr
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3240/5715836064_2d89ba7787_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mikecogh/5715836064/)
Right Up Front (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mikecogh/5715836064/) by mikecogh (http://www.flickr.com/people/mikecogh/), on Flickr
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5146/5623007127_7494aaef2f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/25332637@N00/5623007127/)
Hoog en droog (http://www.flickr.com/photos/25332637@N00/5623007127/) by fatserbjensen (http://www.flickr.com/people/25332637@N00/), on Flickr
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Coupé (http://www.flickr.com/photos/25332637@N00/5623006921/) by fatserbjensen (http://www.flickr.com/people/25332637@N00/), on Flickr
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2725/4447275477_01b59b2668_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shingchou/4447275477/)
the twin track monorail (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shingchou/4447275477/) by shingchou (http://www.flickr.com/people/shingchou/), on Flickr
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4043/4449732040_cbdd0fe46e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shingchou/4449732040/)
comfortable and air-conditioned ride (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shingchou/4449732040/) by shingchou (http://www.flickr.com/people/shingchou/), on Flickr
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4034/4416107345_f1964475ca_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/yewenyi/4416107345/)
A walk around old KL (http://www.flickr.com/photos/yewenyi/4416107345/) by yewenyi (http://www.flickr.com/people/yewenyi/), on Flickr
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4014/4416106569_602a9af35a_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/yewenyi/4416106569/)
A walk around old KL (http://www.flickr.com/photos/yewenyi/4416106569/) by yewenyi (http://www.flickr.com/people/yewenyi/), on Flickr
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2721/4416107949_740c1c0b62_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/yewenyi/4416107949/)
A walk around old KL (http://www.flickr.com/photos/yewenyi/4416107949/) by yewenyi (http://www.flickr.com/people/yewenyi/), on Flickr
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4015/4416831872_1ff6da60e4_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/yewenyi/4416831872/)
A walk around old KL (http://www.flickr.com/photos/yewenyi/4416831872/) by yewenyi (http://www.flickr.com/people/yewenyi/), on Flickr
bukhrin January 21st, 2012, 04:08 PM RapidKL Ticketing Integration - Monorail AFC Gates Installations/Platform Extension works
Hang Tuah station
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8025357/IMG_0287.JPG
Groundwork at Imbi Station, noticed the support column base
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8025357/IMG_0289.JPG
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8025357/IMG_0290.JPG
Bukit Bintang Station
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8025357/IMG_0291.JPG
Titawangsa Station - Installed gates and TVMs
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8025357/IMG_0292.JPG
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8025357/IMG_0293.JPG
greater KL January 22nd, 2012, 11:49 AM Good....
nazrey February 27th, 2012, 08:15 AM New ticketing system for monorail coming in few days time.
Location : Pudu LRT station
http://i.imgur.com/YsHf1.jpg
MyRapid now available at KL Monorail
Monday February 27, 2012
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2012/2/27/nation/10786448&sec=nation
http://thestar.com.my/archives/2012/2/27/nation/n_7lrt.jpg
Convenient: The integrated ticketing system at the Masjid Jamek station.
KUALA LUMPUR: The Automatic Fare Collection (AFC) integrated ticketing system has been implemented in the KL Monorail network on Feb 17.
Previously the ticketing system, known as MyRapid, was introduced only for the Light Rail Transit (LRT) service.
Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd (Prasarana), the company that manages both rail services said the AFC system has been on trial run for almost a week and has yielded good results, prior to its debut on the KL Monorail.
Prasarana group director for rail Khairani Mohamed said the positive results from the trial run gave the company confidence in the integration of the AFC which would effectively replace the previous system of using tickets with magnetic strips.
He advised commuters to use the MyRapid card to avoid having to queue at the ticket vending machines when using the interchange at the Hang Tuah and Titiwangsa stations, which are currently being renovated.
The AFC system was introduced in July 2011 with the first phase implemented in November of the same year, which connected the two LRT rail services of Kelana Jaya and Ampang at their respective Masjid Jamek stops to become an integrated station.
This allowed commuters to make the interchange between both rail services seamlessly.
The initiatives to improve the commuter experience on the LRT and KL Monorail services fall under the GTP's Urban Public Transport NKRA, which aims to increase the ridership of public transport in the Klang Valley.
ggtalents March 11th, 2012, 01:37 PM http://infomentol.blogspot.com/2012/03/mentol-foul-monorel-terbalik-di-times.html
^^Monorel terbalik at times square...haha...^^
UjaiDidida March 11th, 2012, 01:45 PM http://infomentol.blogspot.com/2012/03/mentol-foul-monorel-terbalik-di-times.html
^^Monorel terbalik at times square...haha...^^
tak paham..:nuts:
ggtalents March 11th, 2012, 01:59 PM tak paham..:nuts:
Click that link and you will know..
World 2 World March 11th, 2012, 05:55 PM OMG:ohno: lol:lol:
mrtfreak March 14th, 2012, 05:33 AM Suspended monorail! Never knew they had those in KL. :lol:
davidwsk March 14th, 2012, 06:00 AM Is KL going to use the similar 4 cabins monorail like the one in Mumbai?
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4oBKlv5UVEA/TCBeCGU318I/AAAAAAAAJfI/eDP7Mhh8fEE/s1600/mmoa.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4oBKlv5UVEA/TCBeCGU318I/AAAAAAAAJfI/eDP7Mhh8fEE/s1600/mmoa.jpg
mrtfreak March 14th, 2012, 07:40 AM Yes, they will be using the SUTRA model for the new trains.
tunomura March 14th, 2012, 02:55 PM FYI, Mumbai Monorail.....:)
Mumbaikars may take their 1st monorail ride in August
Internal Test Rides Of Rakes To Be Held At Wadala Yard
Ashley DMello | TOI
Mumbai: The authorities are conducting internal trial runs of monorail rakes at the Wadala yard, but it will be another six months till the hi-tech transport system will be available to Mumbaikars.
A public test run that was scheduled to be held on Wednesday for 4.4 km, from Wadala to Mysore Colony, was called off at the last minute. “The full run of 10 km from Wadala to Chembur cannot be done as the tracks are still not fully ready,” said a government official. After the initial tests, modifications might have to be made to the tracks and other amenities and that will take a few months, said an official. As a result, the monorail was likely to be opened to the public only in August, he added.
The project has being constructed by L&T and Scomi of Malaysia with financial and planning help from the Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority (MMRDA).
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/1552/215201291555am.jpg
http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/3045/215201291620am.jpg
http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/Scripting/ArticleWin.asp?From=Archive&Source=Page&Skin=TOINEW&BaseHref=TOIM/2012/02/15&PageLabel=9&EntityId=Ar00900&ViewMode=HTML
TWK90 March 14th, 2012, 03:30 PM Is KL going to use the similar 4 cabins monorail like the one in Mumbai?
Yes.
http://www.scomigroup.com/
Check "KL Monorail fleet expansion", you can see a video of upgrades for KL Monorail, trains and the stations.
bukhrin March 15th, 2012, 03:55 AM I like the livery, much better than the crappy looking Prasarana syiok-sendiri one leaked last time.
dengilo March 15th, 2012, 05:17 AM I totally agree!http://farm1.staticflickr.com/183/425640359_362cae966b_b.jpg
What the hack is that?
World 2 World March 15th, 2012, 05:18 AM ^^If u watch d video at d end..its d ugly livery..hope they will change it:bash:
mrtfreak March 15th, 2012, 06:26 AM ^^ I think it won't really matter once they wrap the trains up with advertisements. :)
bukhrin March 15th, 2012, 07:43 AM ^^ I think it won't really matter once they wrap the trains up with advertisements. :)
And the stations too. Hope they will standardized the route map in the trains like the LRT lines, instead of still having Bukit Bintang-Susu Cap Junjung or Brickfields-KFC in the future.
khosim March 15th, 2012, 08:07 AM What is really happening at titiwangsa station?upgrading work?it caused bad traffic jam and even worst during peak hours
bukhrin March 15th, 2012, 09:20 AM Platform extension i think.
mrtfreak March 15th, 2012, 10:02 AM And the stations too. Hope they will standardized the route map in the trains like the LRT lines, instead of still having Bukit Bintang-Susu Cap Junjung or Brickfields-KFC in the future.
:lol: I actually find that to be one of the more unique selling points of the KL Monorail. But yeah, there should be a limit to the amount of customization at the stations.
Platform extension i think.
I think they are also strengthening the stations as a whole. Seems that in the Scomi video that there are quite a number of exterior modifications being done that will transform the station. Perhaps that's what they are doing now?
UjaiDidida March 16th, 2012, 05:04 PM if they use 4 cabin monorail thats longer than 2 cabin version so arent they have to upgrade each of their station because the current monorail stations were designed for their current 2 cabin monorail?
mrtfreak March 16th, 2012, 06:43 PM ^^ As I've posted before, and if you've taken the monorail, the platforms are longer than the trains. Bukit Bintang is a very good example of a long platform as this station has a different design than others. But nevertheless, the standard design also called for longer platforms than trains.
Hopefully you can see how long the platform is in this video.
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tunomura March 16th, 2012, 07:29 PM As they are going to extent the platform, it'll much better to upgrade up to 6-cars monorail or even 8-cars..:cheers:
hafidz jon March 16th, 2012, 08:11 PM As they are going to extent the platform, it'll much better to upgrade up to 6-cars monorail or even 8-cars..:cheers:
i think they got depot size constrain, hence only 4 cars will be added. but hopefully they have plan to upgrade in long term. :)
mrtfreak March 17th, 2012, 04:09 AM Screen grabs from the upgrade video on Scomi website.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e130/whataprob/Rail/KLMonorailupgrade01.jpg
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dengilo March 17th, 2012, 10:03 AM [QUOTE=mrtfreak;89519287]^^ As I've posted before, and if you've taken the monorail, the platforms are longer than the trains. Bukit Bintang is a very good example of a long platform as this station has a different design than others. But nevertheless, the standard design also called for longer platforms than trains.
I agree that station is solid as a rock compared to the other stations.If there is a major earthquake that is the only elevated station i would feel save being on!:)
tunomura March 17th, 2012, 03:00 PM Screen grabs from the upgrade video on Scomi website.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e130/whataprob/Rail/KLMonorailupgrade11.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e130/whataprob/Rail/KLMonorailupgrade11.jpg
What a livery, like sperm :bash::bash:
heikal March 17th, 2012, 04:28 PM What a livery, like sperm :bash::bash:
Haha. tadpoles aka sperm... hope Prasarana will maintain the Scomi's livery
TWK90 March 18th, 2012, 06:11 AM They really need to make those stations able to be accessed by persons with disability...
CxIxMaN March 18th, 2012, 02:30 PM What a livery, like sperm :bash::bash:
^^Sperm? looks like AirAsia :lol:
MLP March 21st, 2012, 07:05 AM Just read in the latest KL Urban Rail Development Plan that KL Monorail will be extended southward from Tun Sambanthan to Taman Gembira. This will double the length of KL Monorail line from 8.6 KM to 16 KM with a total of 20 stations. The new monorail line will have a station at Mid Valley Megamall and hopefully it is linked to Abdullah Hukum LRT station. The extension will be completed by 2016.
With this extention I am wondering if there will be a 2-monorail line network (north and south) with intersection at KL Sentral OR there will be just one continuous line from the north to the south and vice versa.
dengilo March 21st, 2012, 10:08 AM I think that was the original plan years ago!I was hoping on the other end they can extend it to pusat damansara MRT station via Moun Kiara area:)
razpatrol99 March 21st, 2012, 04:16 PM Extension completion 2016?? If that so, when will we hear more news for the extension? Hopefully soon!
ILM March 21st, 2012, 04:38 PM Just read in the latest KL Urban Rail Development Plan that KL Monorail will be extended southward from Tun Sambanthan to Taman Gembira. This will double the length of KL Monorail line from 8.6 KM to 16 KM with a total of 20 stations. The new monorail line will have a station at Mid Valley Megamall and hopefully it is linked to Abdullah Hukum LRT station. The extension will be completed by 2016.
With this extention I am wondering if there will be a 2-monorail line network (north and south) with intersection at KL Sentral OR there will be just one continuous line from the north to the south and vice versa.
I think they are reviving the original plan of the extension, which is to have TWO monorail lines, the existing one, and a new line from Tun Sambanthan to Taman Gembira/Happy Garden.
As for me, I'm happy that Old Klang Road & Mid Valley will be more connected & it will pass through my area, Taman Desa! Weee!!!
bukhrin March 22nd, 2012, 05:34 AM New support columns for the platform extension, Imbi station.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8025357/IMG_0371.JPG
dengilo March 22nd, 2012, 06:24 AM That will extend the length of the platform by how much?
bukhrin March 22nd, 2012, 07:26 AM I have no idea, maybe 10 - 15 meters ? lol.
mrtfreak March 22nd, 2012, 12:00 PM Thanks for the photo. Are they extending the station to install escalators inside?
This render...
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e130/whataprob/Rail/KLMonorailupgrade03.jpg
... it reminds me a lot of the Mumbai Monorail station designs, which have provisions for escalators under the extension part seen in the render. Wonder how it will look like once its completed in actuality. :)
UjaiDidida March 31st, 2012, 04:52 AM http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6219/7029485725_311a21d822_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nakagane/7029485725/)
Kuala Lumpur @ malaysia (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nakagane/7029485725/) by nakagane masayuki / 中兼 雅之 (http://www.flickr.com/people/nakagane/), on Flickr
nazrey April 2nd, 2012, 04:26 PM platform extension
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7071/6891814934_3fb206c3ff_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/brianping7/6891814934/)
IMG_4128 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/brianping7/6891814934/) by Brian Ping (http://www.flickr.com/people/brianping7/), on Flickr
nazrey April 3rd, 2012, 08:16 AM Monorail case finally settled
Tuesday April 3, 2012
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2012/4/3/nation/11037054&sec=nation
KUALA LUMPUR: The long and drawn-out case of Bernama journalist David Chelliah who made headlines 10 years ago, when a 14kg monorail wheel fell and injured him, has finally come to an amicable end.
The settlement was finalised through the initiated mediation process at the Kuala Lumpur High Court here last Friday.
The session was chaired by Judicial Commisioner Datuk Nik Hasmat Nik Mohamad on March 12; and both the plaintiff and defendants came to an agreement over the quantum of settlement.
Following the settlement and terms of confidentiality over the quantum being recorded, David’s case finally comes to a close.
The defendants through their insurance companies have to make the full payment within 45 days of the settlement being recorded by the court.
David, 50, a sub-editor with the national news agency, said he was relieved.
“I finally see the light at the end of the tunnel.
“I am happy and like to close this chapter of my life as it is not a pleasant one,” he said here yesterday.
David was seriously injured with his skull cracked in eight places when the monorail train safety wheel fell on him during its trial run along Jalan Sultan Ismail here, on Aug 16, 2002.
He then filed a RM5mil negligence suit in March 2003 and six years later in April, the defendants Monorail Malaysia Technology Adn Bhd and KL Monorail Systems Sdn Bhd were found liable by the Kuala Lumpur High Court.
David was represented by lawyers Steven Thiru and Brian Jit Singh under the guidance of counsel Datuk Dr Cyrus Dass from Shook Lin & Bok; while T. Tharumaraj from Azim, Tunku Farik & Wong acted for the defendants. — Bernama
daeng_jal April 28th, 2012, 03:56 PM few days ago, imbi station
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/559437_294735793942162_100002172303591_677576_376695513_n.jpg
UjaiDidida April 30th, 2012, 04:03 AM meanwhile at the last station...
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8007/7126338831_11007a78b4_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ooka-medias/7126338831/)
Monorail junction (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ooka-medias/7126338831/) by ooka medias (http://www.flickr.com/people/ooka-medias/), on Flickr
dengilo April 30th, 2012, 10:47 AM Brickfields?
archilover May 1st, 2012, 05:23 PM http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8158/7132022025_6f85b8b664_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/atifnadzir/7132022025/)
20120425_220352 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/atifnadzir/7132022025/) by atifnadzir (http://www.flickr.com/people/atifnadzir/), on Flickr
archilover May 1st, 2012, 05:24 PM http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7182/6985939828_9074b4e953_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/atifnadzir/6985939828/)
20120425_220424 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/atifnadzir/6985939828/) by atifnadzir (http://www.flickr.com/people/atifnadzir/), on Flickr
UjaiDidida May 2nd, 2012, 02:01 PM del
FNNG May 4th, 2012, 10:35 PM Just read in the latest KL Urban Rail Development Plan that KL Monorail will be extended southward from Tun Sambanthan to Taman Gembira. This will double the length of KL Monorail line from 8.6 KM to 16 KM with a total of 20 stations. The new monorail line will have a station at Mid Valley Megamall and hopefully it is linked to Abdullah Hukum LRT station. The extension will be completed by 2016.
With this extention I am wondering if there will be a 2-monorail line network (north and south) with intersection at KL Sentral OR there will be just one continuous line from the north to the south and vice versa.
is that true that the monorail will be extended to mid valley?
By the way not sure if anyone feel that when the monorail kl pass through one part of it's line... the train will senget abit... like almost fall down... not sure if they put the 4 car monorail (means heavier) duno will fall down or not...
archilover May 7th, 2012, 04:20 PM read today newspaper and the new monorail look very nice and quite awesome!
razpatrol99 May 7th, 2012, 04:28 PM ^^ any pics to share here??
World 2 World May 7th, 2012, 04:42 PM http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e130/whataprob/Rail/KLMonorailupgrade11.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e130/whataprob/Rail/KLMonorailupgrade11.jpg
They used the same livery:ohno:
http://thestar.com.my/archives/2012/5/7/metrobiz/metd_my_0705_pg32_a.jpg
http://starstorage.blob.core.windows.net/archives/2012/5/7/north/made%202.jpg
thestar.com.my/metro/story.asp?file=/2012/5/7/metrobiz/11225685&sec=metrobiz
nazrey May 7th, 2012, 04:49 PM http://thestar.com.my/archives/2012/5/7/metrobiz/metd_my_0705_pg32_a.jpg
New car model but different livery with Mumbai Monorail..nice ..ingat nak amik recycle monorail dulu :D
Mumbai Monorail
http://i42.tinypic.com/2jbmdxi.jpg
KL Monorail (as of May 2012)
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3118/2846057820_cb53200864_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26713436@N07/2846057820/)
KL Monorail (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26713436@N07/2846057820/) by scootermer (http://www.flickr.com/people/26713436@N07/), on Flickr
archilover May 7th, 2012, 05:35 PM http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8166/7152595787_1ab3619a0b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/atifnadzir/7152595787/)
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archilover May 7th, 2012, 05:35 PM the new hang tuah interchange station
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ejatidiaz May 7th, 2012, 05:40 PM http://thestar.com.my/metro/story.as...5&sec=metrobiz
Currently, the Generation 3 and MRT-type trains are in development at the factory as future products.
:banana::banana:
dengilo May 8th, 2012, 04:23 AM http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7113/7006505706_b3910b20ed_b.jpg
One of the nicer interchange and user friendly.So much daylight coming thru i love it!I wish there is a exit from the LRT platform towards San Peng flats.
lohxy May 9th, 2012, 11:31 AM Looks like there's a possible that someone would like to try to jump from the unpaid area to the paid are through the escalator...
bukhrin May 9th, 2012, 02:06 PM They used the same livery:ohno:
http://thestar.com.my/archives/2012/5/7/metrobiz/metd_my_0705_pg32_a.jpg
http://starstorage.blob.core.windows.net/archives/2012/5/7/north/made%202.jpg
thestar.com.my/metro/story.asp?file=/2012/5/7/metrobiz/11225685&sec=metrobiz
Fugly nya.
razpatrol99 May 9th, 2012, 02:48 PM ^^ not worried about that... next thing u know the whole body will be covered by ads
Leojacj May 9th, 2012, 07:01 PM the livery is just too awful!! like "mimpi ngeri" comes true..
do the designers r just utterly colorblind or what?? mumbaimonorail got a much better look for me..
*hope they'll hear me :ohno:
dengilo May 10th, 2012, 01:21 AM ^^ not worried about that... next thing u know the whole body will be covered by ads
Then they going to put uncle najib@rosmah face on it:banana:
Arkdriver May 10th, 2012, 04:33 AM and name it 1malaysia monorail.
nazrey May 22nd, 2012, 04:49 PM 'KL Monorail expansion on track'
Published: 2012/05/22
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/20120522210648/Article/index_html
The KL Monorail Fleet Expansion Plan, undertaken by Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd (Prasarana), is proceeding smoothly according to schedule.
Prasarana Group Director for Rail Division Khairani Mohamed said the first sets of four-car trains will be received by year-end.
"The new trains, which are of the Generation 2 type, comply with international standards and are environmentally-friendly," he said in a
statement.
KL Monorail currently uses 12 two-car trains in Kuala Lumpur. The new four-car trains can carry double the capacity, from 214 passengers
per car to 430 passengers per train, and are much larger than the current two-car trains.
Valued at approximately RM494 million, the contract also includes upgrading works on the monorail stations and the electrical and mechanical system.
It also includes construction of a new depot apart from the supply of the 12 sets of new four-car trains.
-- Bernama
nazrey May 24th, 2012, 10:02 PM Scomi: 4-car trains on track
By Sharen Kaur Published: 2012/05/25
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/SCOMI24/Article/
SCOMI Rail Bhd will deliver the first batch of four-car trains for KL Monorail to Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd by year-end.
Its unit, Scomi Transit Projects Sdn Bhd, won a RM494 million contract from Prasarana in November last year to supply 12 sets of four-car Generation 2-type trains for its KL Monorail fleet expansion.
The contract is also to upgrade the existing monorail stations as well as the electrical and mechanical system, and build a new depot.
"Work is on schedule. The trains come with new designs, complete with aluminium body and are lighter. They are being assembled at our plant in Rawang," Scomi Brazil country president Hilmy Zaini Zainal said in an interview with Business Times recently.
Scomi's engineering, technology and innovation plant in Rawang is capable of producing 500 monorail cars a year.
Apart from bigger capacity, the trains are environment-friendly and can reduce carbon dioxide emissions by 200 tonnes a day because of their energy efficiency.
Scomi is currently one of two companies in the world providing integrated monorail solutions.
Its major breakthrough in the global monorail space came when it won a RM1.84 billion bid in 2008 for a monorail project in Mumbai, India, with its partner, Larsen & Toubro.
Scomi's share in the Indian venture is worth RM823 million, with projected margins between 10 per cent and 20 per cent.
The Mumbai project has been Scomi's launchpad to compete on an international scale to grab more jobs.
In the last one year, Scomi has won two monorail jobs in Brazil worth a combined RM5.6 billion.
Meanwhile, in a statement issued on Tuesday, Prasarana said the fleet expansion project is proceeding smoothly.
Group director for rail division Khairani Mohamed said two train sets will be in service by end-November and the rest, in the second half of next year.
The expansion project is part of the Government Transformation Programme plan to improve public transportation.
The KL Monorail now uses 12 two-car train sets to service commuters from the KL Sentral in Brickfields to the "Golden Triangle".
The new trains will replace the existing sets, which are running at 35 per cent over-capacity during peak hours. They will increase passengers per car by 50 per cent from 100 to 150 and current ridership of some 65,000 persons by twofold.
Prasarana managing director Datuk Shahril Mokhtar has said the older trains will be kept as spares once the new sets are delivered.
The trains were manufactured locally in 1996.
The KL Monorail services have been in operations since August 31, 2003. The project was completed at a cost of RM1.18 billion.
http://www.btimes.com.my/articles/SCOMI24/pix_middle
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