looks like it could be 80 flrs. hope it wont topple over. lol. .

A bit crass, don't you think?

looks like it could be 80 flrs. hope it wont topple over. lol. .

hahaha!!:banana::banana::banana::lol::lol::banana:

i sure bet it wont cuz according to sources its only gonna be up to 72 floors and realistically will not reach the supertall status of 300m unless they add at least 10 floors or more.:ohno:

well at least they're adding more floors... now up 73...:okay:
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So, even with the added floors, this building won't reach the 300M needed for a supertall status? Sorry for my ignorance, but what's the height likely for this building? It looks very tall to me :)

Trying to share some pics.. but failed

Since the builder has been adding these phantom floors ( floors not originally on the plan and not on the sales list), I should be able to call them on their hotline to add an all floor customized unit for me with a raised revolving living room platform, an infinity wraparound lap pool, a sky greenhouse with a retractable roof, and a sliding indoor/outdoor wet bar.:)

it seems to be a tuff project..

So, even with the added floors, this building won't reach the 300M needed for a supertall status? Sorry for my ignorance, but what's the height likely for this building? It looks very tall to me :)

The height of this 73floor Gramercy Residences would probably be around 270-275meters +- when finished.

^^
the flr's gonna end at 73rd?

Trying to share some pics.. but failed

^^Aww...why is that?..need help?

The height of this 73floor Gramercy Residences would probably be around 270-275meters +- when finished.

^^It was said to be a supertall when completed. Did they lie to the purchasers who intended to own a piece of property in the Philippine's first supertall?

yikes, that creation is humongous but humbling. how long did this take to even create those drawing...prolly just as long as the construction itself hehehhehee...

its really nice...great design.good job

whoa...nice...

Gram, The undisputed Makati's tallest

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well at least they're adding more floors... now up 73...:okay:
pics taken from the Philippine Forums...:)

Ang taas ah! :):cheers:

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Whoah! It looks so tall now. :cheers:

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^^ nice pics :banana:

Without the supertall status, Gram will be a big disappointment. Yeah, it will be taller than PBCom, but beyond that, what's so special about it?

^^ Well ofcourse its the new Philippines tallest. That's a big deal. :lol: Don't worry, some supertalls will follow. (Stratford 312m)

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It clearly dwarfs its neighbors.. :colgate:

its butt ugly neighbors. except the ones on the right.

Right now it looks really awkward but that place will have some of the tallest buildings in the country in the coming years. Cant wait. :cheers:

Right now it looks really awkward but that place will have some of the tallest buildings in the country in the coming years. Cant wait. :cheers:

I just hope they're not only tall but beautiful also. I'd rather have 10 beautiful skyscrapers than 20 ugly supertalls.

^^ 20 ugly supertalls will still look amazing at night. They might be an eyesore during the day though. Just sayin.

But yeah I prefer the first too.
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It clearly dwarfs its neighbors.. :colgate:

I like this, very colorful. It will look better when the skyine spreads to the left and right of gramercy.

I don't understand why we paint our buildings. Anyways, they should just attach a spire to Gramercy to attain that supertall status :lol: But it looks like a supertall to me, esp with those shorter towers surrounding it

I don't understand why we paint our buildings. Anyways, they should just attach a spire to Gramercy to attain that supertall status :lol: But it looks like a supertall to me, esp with those shorter towers surrounding it

Perhaps because glass cladding is more expensive? Hehe.

I don't understand why we paint our buildings. Anyways, they should just attach a spire to Gramercy to attain that supertall status :lol: But it looks like a supertall to me, esp with those shorter towers surrounding it

Would a spire look out of place on it though? And I love the painted buildings. :yes:

Would a spire look out of place on it though? And I love the painted buildings. :yes:

^^
i think not..unless it's incorporated soundly based on the building's design..:)

nice to see one of this kind...hope there would be more..

^^
there would be more.. :cheers:

^^
there would be more.. :cheers:

It makes logical sense. Metro Manila has little land left, developers would be looking towards the sky for future projects. :)

I got an excellent view over this one from my office at the 37:th floor in the GT Tower. Gonna see if I bring my camera in to the office to take a few pics.

It makes logical sense. Metro Manila has little land left, developers would be looking towards the sky for future projects. :)

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very well said.. :applause: :cheers:

It makes logical sense. Metro Manila has little land left, developers would be looking towards the sky for future projects. :)

And maybe a subway? ;)

And maybe a subway? ;)

I doubt the feasibility of a subway system for Manila. For one, we're below sea level. For another, it would be too costly to set-up a subway system. Personally, I support the BRT Model of Curitaba, Brazil. Costs way less than a Light Rail System and easier to implement.

No, going back to the topic... Any word on whether Gram will reach the elusive supertall status?

I doubt the feasibility of a subway system for Manila. For one, we're below sea level. For another, it would be too costly to set-up a subway system. Personally, I support the BRT Model of Curitaba, Brazil. Costs way less than a Light Rail System and easier to implement.

No, going back to the topic... Any word on whether Gram will reach the elusive supertall status?

Considering much smaller cities have subway systems I would disagree, but I want to stay on topic so I leave it at that.

Considering much smaller cities have subway systems I would disagree, but I want to stay on topic so I leave it at that.

Never said that size was the only factor for Metro Manila, nor did I even mention it. If size was the only consideration, Cebu, a much smaller, albeit Metropolitan area could have its own subway, but it doesn't.

Manila's flooding problems and the amount of money to be spent for an underground system prevents Manila from feasibly having one.

But yeah, going back to the topic.

^y know countries in the ring of fire and typhoon belt..cant have subways..

^y know countries in the ring of fire and typhoon belt..cant have subways..

Do you mean to say that countries around the ring of fire and typhoon belt can't have subways? Of course they can. Tokyo and Hong Kong come to mind.

they can..but for a developing country like the philippines? it aint impossible..but it will takes time.

they can..but for a developing country like the philippines? it aint impossible..but it will takes time.

Now, there we do have valid point. As mentioned before, there are no real technical reasons for why it would not work, however economical ones. But I probably was a bit unclear. I did not really specifically mean a subway, but rathar a coherent and well knit together Metro system. (And those can go both under, on and above ground). I know there is a beginning of such a system, but much more need to be done.

Now, there we do have valid point. As mentioned before, there are no real technical reasons for why it would not work, however economical ones. But I probably was a bit unclear. I did not really specifically mean a subway, but rathar a coherent and well knit together Metro system. (And those can go both under, on and above ground). I know there is a beginning of such a system, but much more need to be done.

Eureka!

There lies the confusion; Manila already has 3 existing MRT/LRT lines, and 1 heavy rail line. And there are plans to augment the system with the addition of a few more MRT/LRT lines and the expansion of the current lines. Also, the possibility of operating a BRT system has been forwarded and is currently being studied.

So yeah, Manila has a "subway"/public transport system in place. We just need to expand it and make it more cohesive.

nice update panorama photos

Any news on whether it's gonna breach 300m?

^^
a speculated height boost to reach 300m atleast..:bash:

88flrs(revised) was slated for the 302m height..but it's only 73flrs at the moment with the second topping off..:lol::ohno:

^^
a speculated height boost to reach 300m atleast..:bash:

88flrs slated for the 302m..but it's only 73 at the moment with the second topping off..:lol::ohno:

source?

GRAMERCY - philippines' tallest
Here is a better image of The Gram, photo taken by me

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Source: http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/insideMetro.htm?f=2011/february/17/metro1.isx&d=2011/february/17

Work at 35 Makati building projects stopped

by Ferdinand Fabella

THE Makati city government has ordered all construction work stopped at 35 high and medium-rise buildings in the city that were found to have violated the National Building Code and the Philippine Mechanical Code.

City Engineer Nelson Morales said they issued the work stoppage orders following the inspections of ongoing construction projects in the city.

The inspections were conducted from January to the second week of February.

“Many of the buildings inspected by our engineers were found not complying with a number of provisions under the national building and mechanical codes. We need to ensure the strict and full compliance of these projects with safety standards specified by the law,” Morales said in his report to Makati Mayor Jejomar Erwin Binay Jr.

The 35 buildings ordered to cease construction works are: Eton Belton Place, Senta Tower, Avida Tower I, Mercedes Hotel, Antel Serenity Tower, One Pacific Place, RAM Tower, The Residences at Greenbelt;

Jazz Residence, KL Mosaic, Fairmont & Raffles Residences, Laureano de Trevi, The Oriental Place, Greenbelt Madison, The Columns, Avida Towers, Gramercy Project, Glorietta Redevelopment, Cityland M.E.T., Eton Greenbelt Residence, Mosaic Tower;

The Beacon Tower, Avida Towers San Lorenzo, One Rockwell, Alphaland Makati Place, Discovery Primera, Grand Midori, One Central Project, Edades Tower & Garden Villas, Victoria de Makati, Dohle Building, Stratford, Diamond Residences, Greenbelt Excelsior, and Megawide Construction.

Morales said the stoppage order will be lifted once the developers have corrected the violations and are found to be in full compliance with both the National Building Code and Philippine Mechanical Code.

The violations include the lack of conspicuous warning signs and fans or catch platforms and safety nets to protect pedestrians and motorists from falling objects, lack of safety belts and other protective gear for the workers, poorly maintained mechanical equipment like scaffolds, lack of proper barricades or guardrails alongside floor openings, and lack of a building permit from the City Building Official.

The city engineers intensified its inspection of construction projects in Makati after 10 workers of Eton Residences Greenbelt in Paseo de Roxas Avenue died when the mechanical lift they riding on collapsed.

Police have formally charged with reckless imprudence resulting in multiple homicides and serious physical injury five construction officials over the deaths.

They were Eduardo Piñon, project manager Engineer Guillermo Torres, project-in-charge Jason Roselle, safety officer Ian Lester Agpoon, and Engireer Sonny Romero.

Torres, Roselle, and Agpoon are from the Arlo Aluminum Glass Construction Corp., subcontractor of C-E Construction, which is the general contractor of the 39-storey Eton Residences Greenbelt located at the corner of Gallardo Street and Paseo de Roxas Avenue.

Romero is the project officer of Jose Aliling Construction Management Corp., which is also in contract with C-E.

Piñon is from the EM Piñon Construction, which subcontracted the 10 workers to Arlo.

^^

CONSTRUCTION CONTINUES IN FULL SWING AT THE GRAMERCY RESIDENCES.

No work stoppage at the Gramercy Residences / Finishing works proceed as scheduled.

Terrie F. Yu, corporate communications manager at Century Properties, said: "What we have is not a stoppage of construction but we were asked to comply with certain permits."

source?

^^
oh come'on..you're not backreading.:)

NOW THIS BUILDING WILL BECOME THE TALLEST BUILDING IN THE PHILIPPINES!!!!
☺☺☺☺

^^
it is already.. :cheers:

^^
it is already.. :cheers:

OH THANK YOU SO MUCH MY DEAR FOR REMINDING ME. :)

Do you mean to say that countries around the ring of fire and typhoon belt can't have subways? Of course they can. Tokyo and Hong Kong come to mind.

HK is within the typhoon belt but not the Ring of Fire nor is a seismic zone.

Japanese cities have some of the most extensive subway systems in the world and they tend to me more earthquake prone than Philippine cities. Of course they are an industrialized nation.

But again, China, Thailand, Indonesia or even Vietnam are developing countries but have ambitious projects like supertall buildings, infrastructure, etc.

The Philippines is within Asia where supertall buildings are becoming so common in its cities.

If Asian cities both developed or not can have at least one supertall, The Philippines sure can.

Eureka!

There lies the confusion; Manila already has 3 existing MRT/LRT lines, and 1 heavy rail line. And there are plans to augment the system with the addition of a few more MRT/LRT lines and the expansion of the current lines. Also, the possibility of operating a BRT system has been forwarded and is currently being studied.

So yeah, Manila has a "subway"/public transport system in place. We just need to expand it and make it more cohesive.

You mean, Manila has 2 light rail, 1 full metro and 1 commuter rail line.

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Of course, the tallest structure at the left (for the 1st photo) and at the center (for the 2nd one) is Gramercy. :)

OH THANK YOU SO MUCH MY DEAR FOR REMINDING ME. :)

^^
no pwob.. :)

I passed by Kalayaan yesterday, and it appears like Gramercy has actually topped off.

Can anybody confirm this?

Manila's skyline is booming with many great projects :cheers1:

GRAMERCY AND KNIGHTSBRIDGE
Gramercy..beside is Knightsbridge
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^^ nice shot of the country's tallest building, with the jeepney. Truly, Philippines.

probably that tower will become new landmark of manila?

probably that tower will become new landmark of manila?

Yes, it's true. As it dominates the Metro Manila skyline.


A version of Makati skyline with Gram
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If it topped out, is a supertall? There were rumors that it won't be a supertall.

Gramercy is less than 300 meters in height. So technically, it will not be really a supertall. But then again, the spires can do their magic.

no ones knows its true height..until the cranes are removed..any updates from our resident photographers..?Pics or from your View ?

March 13
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March 17
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Gramercy is less than 300 meters in height. So technically, it will not be really a supertall. But then again, the spires can do their magic.

Spires are included in the total heights of suppertalls.that's why this building's listed in this thread.:nuts:

Almost T/O and they still haven't started cladding yet? :?

what will it be on gram's crown? :)

March 29. Some say there are 71 floors....

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i thought it's 72.... :)

I guess we'll know the true total number of floors soon. Considering how it's already t/o. No new floors can magically appear.

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In the mourning... (http://www.flickr.com/photos/34626106@N02/5578373850/) by Carl Casequin (http://www.flickr.com/people/34626106@N02/), on Flickr

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Taken 3 days ago.....
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Fort Bonifacio, Taguig
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Fort Bonifacio View (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jdeepaniii/5593884555/) by Jaydee Pan (Stopped for a while) (http://www.flickr.com/people/jdeepaniii/), on Flickr
BCG with Gramercy at the background. :cheers:

night time panorama was awesome, anyway im not follow from first page = this residential has become the tallest resident tower at south asia?

night time panorama was awesome, anyway im not follow from first page = this residential has become the tallest resident tower at south asia?
could be, i can't think of any other current all residential building in the region that is taller.. although i'm pretty sure there are other taller proposed or u/c

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IMG_0073 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/21525487@N04/5625546245/) by fukadavin (http://www.flickr.com/people/21525487@N04/), on Flickr

on the left
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The Gramercy Residences totals 73 floors @ around 260-265 meters +- in height as of today unless they add spire/crown in the future.

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WOW !!!

The Gramercy Residences totals 73 floors @ around 260-265 meters +- in height as of today unless they add spire/crown in the future.

I THOUGHT IT'S 302METERS?? what is 265 indeed??:bash:

maybe they'll be adding something in it's crown..

ei guys im just new in this thread....i just hapend to register today,btw im folowing this thread years ago,and a little bit disapointed about the romourd chhoppd height of gramercy.. is it true that it didnt reach 300m? but guys im still hoping for d 1st supertall of our country,and may be that would be gramercy..;)

ei guys im just new in this thread....i just hapend to register today,btw im folowing this thread years ago,and a little bit disapointed about the romourd chhoppd height of gramercy.. is it true that it didnt reach 300m? but guys im still hoping for d 1st supertall of our country,and may be that would be gramercy..;)

You might want to check the local thread for Gramercy. There's a load of discussions about its height there. :cheers:

news there is
?

so this is not going to be a supertall..........very disappointing...i like this one a lot

media blitz ???


Tallest residential condo in PH to be built in Makati
abs-cbnNEWS.com
Posted at 06/15/2011 5:50 PM | Updated as of 06/15/2011 7:24 PM
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MANILA, Philippines - A 70-storey condominium set to be built in Makati City may be the country's tallest residential condo in 2015, its developer said.

Stratford Residences will be built to a height of 312 meters, taller than Century Properties' The Gramercy Residences, which will have a height of 302 meters when completed in 2012.

Picar Development, Inc., the real estate arm of the AMA Group of Companies, is building Stratford Residences on Picar Place, a prime property measuring more than 3,500 square meters located on Kalayaan Avenue in Bel-Air, Makati City.

"But more than just height, Stratford Residences will set the bar for future luxury residential condominium developments in the metro," said Ambassador Amable R. Aguiluz V, chairman of Picar Development, Inc.

Stratford Residences will have 1,124 fully furnished residential units ranging from studio, single, 2-bedroom, 3-bedroom units, and penthouses, said Picar in a statement.

Aguiluz said Hearst Tower and One Bryant Park in New York City, both premier skyscrapers, served as inspiration for the look of Stratford Residences.

The luxury condo has a curvilinear design named as one of the best designs of 2009 by BCI Asia, an expert in construction market information.

"Its folded facade is not just for aesthetics, it helps in capturing and maximizing the presence of natural and artificial light," Aguiluz said.

The condo will offer varied amenities, such as a fitness center, meditation garden, lanai, adult-sized and kiddie-sized swimming pools, children's day care center, and play area.

It will also have a library, music library, a private mini-theater, and function room for events. Residents will also enjoy a 24-hour concierge service, remote-controlled lighting system, and Wi-Fi access on every floor.

Commercial establishments will be housed on the condo's first 3 floors. An 8-level underground parking area that can accommodate 694 cars has been included in the plans

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/lifestyle/06/15/11/tallest-residential-condo-ph-be-built-makati

news article

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i dont know but maybe gramercy is keeping something..hmmmmmm..and stratford is trailing from what gramercy would do.. :)

Fort Bonifacio, Taguig
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Fort Bonifacio View (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jdeepaniii/5593884555/) by Jaydee Pan (Stopped for a while) (http://www.flickr.com/people/jdeepaniii/), on FlickrBCG with Gramercy at the background. :cheers:

thanks for sharing that! :) it's very nice! you even see makati at the back. parang new york tlga!

this's really nice

i can attest that gram's crown is still to be installed.. :lol:

Boat building has been one of the earliest forms of engineering and hobby as well. Most hobbyists prefer to build themselves a boat rather than buy. Why? Above all other reasons, it is simply because they take glory in calling their craft their own. What about you? Why build your own boat?

another spamer... got sick of u guys

updates folks?

i don't think its T/O yet

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yeah it's not.. :)

btw...


share ko lng this pic of Makati skyline w/ Gram from The Fort view...

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Please spread this article. Please pay attention to #8. In the US such secrecy would mean lawsuit. As we struggle in our building, please locate all such articles for review.

I would strongly suggest that you get copies of the Bylaws and Master Deed and scan them and spread to all Buyers and Brokers. Also, have the broker and developer sign a statement that you have been been given all documents and that any that have not been presented and sign for will not apply to you, ever. Then let the author of the article below and all newspapers know the result. It is time the Buyers let the condominium developers know that no more secrecy and games are allowed. A Century Property Buyer, George

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Times Chronicle: Good Morning Philippines Vol. 01, No. 26, page 5 - Wednesday, August 24, 2011
www.goodmorningphilippines.ph

Wind of Change
By Armando Ang

Tips on buying a condominium

Many readers have urged us to write something about housing, given that this is a major investment for many of them. For the benefit of those readers, we’ve made certain guidelines in buying a condominium, the most popular among the housing units, that will ensure a smooth transaction from the start until the turnover.
Here are my top ten tips.1. The most important step to take is to determine how much you can afford to spend. This is no problem for the rich. For those buying on installment, one good rule of thumb is to spend no more than onethird of your net monthly income. This means that all current monthly credit such as car financing should also be deducted. If you still have difficulties, your financial adviser would be a great help.
Before embarking, it would be wise to start saving for a home. It could mean a lower interest rate. The bigger the down payment or the shorter the period of loan the better for you. A one percent difference could mean hundreds of thousands of pesos in savings. If you have extra funds, prepayment is allowed by law with a little penalty.
2. Make a wish list of all your needs and wants in a house. The need is what is the minimum requirement needed for the family to live comfortably while the wants are the amenities in a home. Trade-offs are common between needs and wants. Do not fail to take into account the needs for the future if the intent is to live on the unit for a long time.
The needs should always have priority. They include location, neighboring, school, church, workplace, shopping malls, etc. that will minimize cost of travel. Other needs include the number and sizes of the rooms, parking spaces, etc. Speaking of garage, choose one that is nearest to the ground level and choose it early before someone beats you to it.
3. The service of a licensed real estate broker is indispensable, especially for those new to house hunting. A good place to find a broker is through your relatives, friends, and co-workers. Be aware that most brokers are biased toward the sellers because they are the ones paying their commission. However, you can manipulate them to get a lower price. The freelance broker is not exactly dedicated to the seller or buyer. All he wants is to make a sale and gets his commission.
The service of realtors is free to all homebuyers even if the latter is the one who approach them. Furnish him all the important criteria such as your budgetand needs and wants. A freelancer would be able to show more units and all the cost of owning, including the closing costs and taxes. Unlike the real estate salesmen found in the malls, brokers are aware ofother expenses especially the taxes due and those responsible for them.
It always pays to canvass on the going price of units in the same vicinity, taking into account the location of the building. Look for them at the newspaper ads, brochures, flyers, magazines, etc. Every bit of information is a bargaining tool for you to keep the price down. You will be amazed how realtors are willing to reduce their price tag to the limit for an intelligent buyer.
4. Remember to buy from a reputable developer but expect premium prices. Beware of those who overcharge their customers with their reputation. Do not be deceived by developers with their zero-interest. They are using your money in constructing the condominium. If fact, the actual cost of building the condominium is less than a third of what it will cost them. With this in mind, always ask for the specifications and brands of the materials to be used in the building. Cheating on materials is the number one reason why many developers are making fortunes out of these enterprises. Almost all billionaires in the country are into the real estate industry.
5. If you are not in a hurry, wait for the buyer’s market. If there is a glut in the market or the economic condition is bad, developers can be expected to lower their prices. Caution: waiting for a buyer’s market may take a long time. There are also buyers immigrating and willing to sell cheaply even at a loss. There are sellers of condos under construction who cannot keep up the payments and willing to pass their units to others at a loss.
6. Do not be sway by the advertisement of low down payment, zero-interest payment and low monthly payment. They are only inducement for buyers to entertain the thought of buying from them. The zerointerest is actually a misnomer because you are not yet enjoying the use of the unit. The waiting can last for years and if you are unlucky, may never see the inside of the unit.
There are other charges in owning a condo. These are the association due charge by the homeowners’ association, exorbitant water consumption fee, insurance for the building, real property tax on the common areas, your individual real property tax, etc. Often charges meant to be paid by the developers are passed on to the buyers.
7. If you are buying on an installment basis, beware of the balloon payments. There may be several of them to make it easier for buyers to comply. It is the number one cause why many buyers have lost their investment without even seeing the building completed. Buyers usually have to wait for years before while they try to complete the installment.
Make sure you can pay off the mortgage if you have one. Those buying on a pre-selling unit do not need a mortgage because the developers are not going to give you the Condominium Title of Certificate until it is completely paid. For those who mortgaged their property to the banks, be sure to pay off the loan on time or lost heavily. This is because the banks usually loan out 70% of the total value of the unit. This is why they expect you to put up a 30% downpayment before approving your loan. Should you default, they stand to make at least 30% offhand.
8. Read your contract of sale carefully. Most of the contracts of adhesion are binding unless you have it deleted. The buyer is entitled to have any provision changed, especially when it was not originally included in the negotiation. It happened to me when I had an escalation clause removed in the contract. Whatever you discussed and agreed upon with the salesman or broker should be written down. Developers have an overriding provision in the contract not to comply with whatever you agreed upon.
Before making any deposit, read the condominium corporation, by-laws and the master deeds. The developer is very secretive about these documents because there is no way it can be changed once it is filed with the SEC. Most of them have something to hide such as high association dues over and above what is needed. The buyer is expected to comply with its provisions. Some of them may not be to your taste such as disallowing pets or visitors after certain hours.
Beware of one onerous provision in the document that allows the landowners to take back the property including the building after the lapse of fifty years. Some of these developers in joint venture with the landowner may be scamming buyers without informing them. It is incumbent on the HLRUB to require developer/landowner to advise them of this provision during pre-selling or in their brochure if there is one. Always put a contingency clause such as subject to loan approval or home inspector’s for those completed unit before you make any deposit payment. There is always the possibility of a buyer having second thought about the unit.
9. Most of the contracts of sale include provisions from the Maceda Law. It is not the best protection accorded to the buyers, mainly because of the waiting period from the time of the first payment to the time of turnover. It may take as long as five years before you see the inside of your unit. That is if you are lucky the building will be completed. Most of them the actual cost of constructing the unit including the land is only a fraction of what you are paying. The developers are using mostly your money and still charging you exorbitant price.
10. The art of negotiation is very important to get a lowball price. As long as you hold unto your money, there is a big chance of getting a better deal, even from those purportedly price listed by the developers. If their own employees can get as much as 5% discount, surely they will be willing to sell with the same discount to dispose the burden of selling a condo.
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For more information, read my
book Guide to Homeownership. For
comment and suggestions, my e-mail
address is aaa_dualforce@yahoo.com

This thread is about Gramercy Residence and not about laws, please stay on topic and avoid posting irrelevant subjects like the one above which is a 'SPAM'... :spam1:


http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m335/filipinas40/Gramercy2.jpg

As Seen 3 Months Ago on June 2011

^^
:applause:

This thread should be move to skycrapers since it will not be over 300 meters and is not considered a supertall...

ugly


So are you... :lol:

^^ I must admit, it's not beautiful, hope they can do something with the finishes though. well, they've officially released it in the news as 302m so there's nothing you can do about it. whether they've actually changed the final height or not, all we can do is speculate since they haven't released the change on the news.

anyway, here's an update. Gramercy already dominates the Makati skyline


http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/198644_10150322960210070_644430069_9930776_1585676_n.jpg

It still looks good even if it didn't made it up to 302 meters, definitely the new tallest bldg in the country...

When is the turnover of the units here? Planning to get one...

update

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6109/6223289433_0f366981a7_b.jpg

Nice Shot, but that was more than 7 months ago...

not a very nice building

Gramercy kinda reminds me of Ryugyong Tower the way it dominates the skyline.

So are you... :lol:

Come on. That building is not really nice.

residences simply nice but their retail center very nice

please move to skyscraper..it not reach 300m, it nice building,congrats manila!

the sprie of the gramercy has not been there yet, just wait a couple of days and you'll see it

^^
we'll see it unfurled by next year.. :lol: roof height might be 260m-270m..

supertall or not if not pls remove in this thread :)

not a very nice building

JEALOUS person...:lol:

Very nice panorama of manila city

Very nice panorama of manila city


Thanks...

I have been in Manila and Makati , 3 months ago, it was great city, many skyscrapers, i like it.

I have been in Manila and Makati , 3 months ago, it was great city, many skyscrapers, i like it.

:cheers:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6230/6343403525_bc0a0c4459_b.jpg
by Richard Espeno

the ugly firewall( it has a purpose after all lol) will now be covered by the Trump Building :banana:
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/4162/gramfir.jpg

Now has become the tallest tower at manila

Right smack at the middle . . .

Makati City the banner city November 17, 2011
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/images/headers/17.jpg
maybe its still not appearing in your computer, but it is in mine as im situated 3 hours in advance ng pinas time. :)

Congrats Makati..

:cheers:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6230/6343403525_bc0a0c4459_b.jpg
by Richard Espeno

the ugly firewall( it has a purpose after all lol) will now be covered by the Trump Building :banana:
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/4162/gramfir.jpg

^^
Is that true? So there's no 2nd phase of this tower? Do you have the full version of this image?

^^Whoa look closely at that first pic...the firewall has an interesting design scheme. :okay:

^^Whoa look closely at that first pic...the firewall has an interesting design scheme. :okay:

it seems like they can't make up their mind..

^^
Is that true? So there's no 2nd phase of this tower? Do you have the full version of this image?

yeah it turns out that the real purpose of why they 'cut' a portion of the tower... was to make room for the trump building

the image was from this video
rGInCiRFClk

they are already digging up the site of the trump tower at the moment

The original design was quite breathtaking but the changes made just to give way to another tower isn't a good sight to behold. :ohno::ohno:...meaning two landmark towers in Manila standing very close (2-4meters away) to each other.:bash:

But still, we'd hope the interiors will be at par to international standards, at least to compensate on what it has lost from the outside.

it turned out to be quite disappointing, regardless of being the tallest tower in Manila..But hopefully it would look better when it is 100% completed, :)

Nice shape

The original design was quite breathtaking but the changes made just to give way to another tower isn't a good sight to behold. :ohno::ohno:...meaning two landmark towers in Manila standing very close (2-4meters away) to each other.:bash:

But still, we'd hope the interiors will be at par to international standards, at least to compensate on what it has lost from the outside.

Don't be that mad. I mean it is the highest building in Manila now (even if it won't be 302 m). It still looks nice. Truly it isn't that what we excepted of the renderings. But still a nice, iconic skyscraper. It is balancing the Metro Manila skyline from the south & west view. Maybe even north & east view (haven't seen it from those angle). And it isn't that close, never ever. Maybe 15-20 meters!

The other thread is closed since November 25... Just saw it yet :O

is there a thread for that trump tower?

is there a thread for that trump tower?

Sure, use the search option. Google is your friend.

update

so sa gramercy, ikaw na ang nakatira sa ulap... :)

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j88/Josephbc/Photo0108.jpg

it turned out to be quite disappointing, regardless of being the tallest tower in Manila..But hopefully it would look better when it is 100% completed, :)

Agreed! It just looks massive. Design wise, boring. Green cladding not very appealing either

Agreed! It just looks massive. Design wise, boring. Green cladding not very appealing either
theres is no green cladding

Windows and balconies look green.

Windows and balconies look green.

oh i see.. lol its the netting.. for safety purposes
http://i00.i.aliimg.com/photo/v0/383718990/50_300g_m2_Green_Construction_Safety_Netting.jpg

should be moved to the skyscraper section.

should be moved to the skyscraper section.


links? source?

PH’s most anticipated projects of 2012

By: Charles E. Buban
Philippine Daily Inquirer
December 31, 2011

With 2012 just one more day away, perhaps, it’s time to raise our champagne glasses and offer a toast to all the wonderful new structures as well as residential developments we will be anticipating in the coming months.

These are no ordinary projects as they are set to become iconic if not meaningful for a country that seeks solutions to sustainability challenges as well as international acclamation.

While there are several grand projects that will see completion or turnover in 2012, these four are perhaps worthy of our attention.

1 Philippines’ most eco-responsible high-rise building. The bamboo-and-flowing-water-inspired Zuellig building located at the corner of Makati Avenue and Paseo de Roxas in Makati City is scheduled to be completed in 2011.

Within this 33-story building lie several innovative technologies that enabled it to become the country’s first to be precertified as Gold level under the Leadership for Energy and Environmental Design Core and Shell (LEED-CS) program of the United States Green Building Council.

Upon completion, the Zuellig building is even aiming for the LEED Platinum certification, the highest level granted by the USGBC.

Compared to other conventional Prime and Grade A buildings in the country, tenants of the Zuellig building are set to enjoy cost savings of at least 15 percent in energy consumption or a minimum of 4.3-million kilowatt hours saved per year.

Productivity of employees working in “green” buildings may increase by up to 18 percent, considering that in the case of Zuellig, 90 percent of the tenants’ interior spaces will use natural daylight and that the structure will employ carbon dioxide monitoring system (pump fresh, conditioned air whenever necessary) that could ensure occupants’ health and safety.

As a result, tenants are set to gain from a boost in their image and branding, which may even contribute to stronger business in the long run.

2 The country’s tallest building. Towering near the intersection of Makati Avenue and Kalayaan Avenue is the newly crowned tallest building in the Philippines.

Launched in 2007, The Gramercy Residences at Century City rises 73 stories or 302 meters beating the previous title holder, the 52-story- and 259-meter Philippine Bank of Communications Tower on Ayala Avenue.

The Gramercy Residences at Century City, which is the first residential tower to rise at the 3.4-hectare mixed-use Century City, is set to be completed and turned over to its residents in 2012.

John Victor Antonio, COO of the building’s developer, Century Properties, is specially proud of the structure considering that the topping off of Gramercy Residences at Century City early in January 2011 coincided with the company’s 25th anniversary.

Aside from the prestige that the building offers its future residents, Gramercy Residences at Century City will feature three floors of hyper-amenities called the Skypark.

Located 36 stories above the ground and traversing the entire width of the building, the breathtaking Skypark will feature waterfalls, infinity pools, a designer restaurant, health club and more.

3 Philippines’ latest international caliber indoor arena. With a full house capacity of 20,000, the SM Mall of Asia Arena is 5,000 more than the current benchmark in sports and concert venues, the Smart Araneta Coliseum.
Set to open in May 2012, the SM MOA Arena is set to become the new home of the University Athletics Association of the Philippines and the National Collegiate Athletic Association.

The MOA Arena in Pasay City features world-class standards of operations and premium facilities—considering that it even plans to invite teams of the National Basketball Association to hold its games here—including seats that feature cup holders and those that could be retracted.

The MOA Arena also offers 40-room corporate suites that could accommodate 20 persons (each room has its own mini-bar, couches, restroom and viewing area).

It is connected to a 2,000-capacity car park.

4 The country’s most exclusive yet affordable enclave. For a minimum of just P2.3 million and with payment terms of up to 48 months, The Grove by Rockwell is perhaps the best offer that emerging professionals, newlyweds and starting families may be able to enjoy as they aspire for the most luxurious and most exclusive life.

Located on E. Rodriguez Jr. Avenue (C5) near the corner of Ortigas avenue in Pasig City, The Grove by Rockwell is the first foray in the upper middle-income market of high-end real estate developer Rockwell Land Corp.

Early buyers must be celebrating as Rockwell Land is set to turn over the two of the six 24-story towers in June 2012. These two towers will feature units made up of a mix of garden units, flats, lofts and Z-lofts.

Designed to bring the Rockwell lifestyle to Ortigas, The Grove by Rockwell is designed for those who demand luxury and comfort.

Seventy-five percent of 5.4 hectare property was devoted to open space and landscaped greenery. Rockwell Land Corp. even partnered with Dallas-based architect Don Wilder and world-class landscape artist Karl Princic to create secluded pocket gardens, winding trails and landscapes that will give its residents the feeling of being far away from the city (despite the fact that the place is just right across shopping mecca, the Tiendesitas.

http://business.inquirer.net/37791/ph%E2%80%99s-most-anticipated-projects-of-2012

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u102/raph_ahr/Gram_Inq.jpg

is there a thread for that trump tower?

Yes there is!

it looks a little bit better at night now with the new light effects
rluKzW6xetY

update (rightmost)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7174/6665304575_dd70bfceac_b.jpg

update (rightmost)

the gap comes together! ;)

update

Taken from A.Venue

http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/7586/14jan012e.jpg

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/68/14jan013e.jpg

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/3663/14jan007e.jpg

:cheers:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6230/6343403525_bc0a0c4459_b.jpg
by Richard Espeno

the ugly firewall( it has a purpose after all lol) will now be covered by the Trump Building :banana:
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/4162/gramfir.jpg

Soon, but not too soon enough, Trump Tower will surely trump and eclipse Gramercy Residences in terms of stature and height (judging by the 3d render of Trump). But hey, this only means that Metro Manila's skyline is getting taller and taller

it will be amazing to take snap in night

Thanks, guys! Pic is mine. Kaya I placed my watermark. Went up to 71st floor. Kalula, but nice views talaga!

More pics...
http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/192/19jan093e.jpg

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/548/19jan076e.jpg

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36th floor amenities

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http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/5821/19jan104e.jpg

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Aziza From Gram Thread

update

http://img3.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/15549/1554938908d8c6511c55c272125d5213f9bbda7a.jpg


http://img1.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/15549/155493904fd873fe12a25c3108ec65cf72d6afe1.jpg

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/363/img0416awt.jpg
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9391/img0416b.jpg
photos from CPI

update

I extracted the rest.

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/2017/grmm.jpg

http://img860.imageshack.us/img860/7704/grme.jpg

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/6460/77987255.jpg

scMdOnhr8Os....originally posted by Leofriends from the local Gramercy Thread.

The 250m Gramercy Residences has to be relegated to the Skyscraper Thread.

I took a photo of The Gram a couple of days ago! Can't wait for this building to come alive!!

http://s16.postimage.org/psrg9cnqt/Mind_Museum_151.jpg

:)

WOW!! its nice!! parang naprepressure ung manila sa skycrapers ng china hahahaha =)

>>>> right side of this panorama

Panoramic shot of Downtown Metro Manila. Taken by me just today!

SCROLL ->>>>>>>>
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7069/6908129153_aa020688fc_o.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l255/dodecruz/IMG00469-20120224-1724.jpg

right :) @ 302m?

right :) @ 302m?

Nope. Final height is 250 meters. It sure is not a supertall but tall enough to be a landmark structure in Manila. :banana::banana:

So then it should be removed to the skyscraper section

...finally uploading photos from my trip

from the air...taken 3/5/2012
http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w512/ojmyan/DSCN6468.jpg
http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w512/ojmyan/DSCN6460.jpg

attended a wedding at the Lofts - Manansala - 3/10/12
http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w512/ojmyan/DSCN7743.jpg
http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w512/ojmyan/Makati-RockwellPanorama1.jpg
http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w512/ojmyan/DSCN7871.jpg

3/12/12
http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w512/ojmyan/DSCN6459.jpg

3/15/2012
http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w512/ojmyan/DSCN8807.jpg
http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w512/ojmyan/DSCN6419.jpg

latest!!!

Nope. Final height is 250 meters. It sure is not a supertall but tall enough to be a landmark structure in Manila. :banana::banana:

How can Century claim the bldg to be the tallest at the same time saying that the final height is 250m? (based on the youtube video posted earlier)?

How can Century claim the bldg to be the tallest at the same time saying that the final height is 250m? (based on the youtube video posted earlier)?

maybe century doesn't know the final height :lol: ... well the crane is still up there.. so maybe its not t/o yet :lol: