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RC Lens

1x League:
1998

2x League Cup:
1994, 1999


The actual Felix Bollaert in Lens (France) will be upgrade!
Actual capacity is 42000 seats
New capacity: 50000 seats.
Architect: Pierre Ferret (the one who make the new Lille stadium)
cost: 100 million euros
scheduled -> 2010

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/1143/lens01mj4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/738/lens04vg3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/3388/lens02jn2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1701/lens03oo1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

The exterior looks quite interesting at first sight. Do you have some bigger pics?

Do you know why this stand was built bevelled?
http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/FRA/Felix_Bollaert3.jpg

Was there not enough space for a rectangular stand?

Was there not enough space for a rectangular stand?


No, cause there is a railway on the side :


http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/39/lensstadxj4.th.jpg (http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lensstadxj4.jpg)

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The Future Bollaert looks impressive but I'm very disapointed it's only 50.000 and not 56.000 as Axelferis previously said...

Vilak--> i'm sorry buddy but it was what martel president annouced :ohno:

And it is said first that 2010 will see 50000 seats capacity
2012-> they will construct the retractable roof !!!

You can see on the sid of the stadium Hotels, mall, and underground a great parking!

I'm disapointed about caacity but perhaps the costs??

If you notice they remake two tribunes! Perhaps if the remade a third kop they could upgrade a little more capacity?

i think they do like in england: Upgrade in function of sold out seats (like manchester,Newcastle)

interview in french from the architect (the same that lille stadium):

http://www.lensois.com/index.php?Page=articles&ID=222

And president of lens said that he will make the official announcement in next weeks

it's strange they don't fill the corners...
Perhaps It will be done later.
I'm glad this is not a final project but the first step of a more complete rework of the stadium.

If you look corner will be filled in closing "air gap" and replacing them by hostel, commercial galleries

I suppose the architect wanted to keep the "spirit" of this english like stadim atmosphere. I think he made a good job because in the pics i feel this!! :)

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/5108/lens01mediumwns2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/9321/lenswca5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7779/lens02mediumwid8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

i hope you understand now!

Whatever, if in the future there's need to upgrade the capacity (which I think won't happen), they'll find a way anyway.

Of course but for a competition like euro 2016 it is enough beautiful!! :banana:

i start to apreciate such a diversity in french stadium architecture:

Look they begin to be all interesting!

Stade de france
Lyon
Lille
Lens

they are all differents no?

If you want might opinion guys, it's about damn time! and Axelferis is right there's a nice diversity in the design. It's a good project a wise one financially sound and logical. 50000 is more than sufficiant.

All these clubs are putting Paris under pressure! When do we dig out the Parc Des Princes expansion project!

And it is said first that 2010 will see 50000 seats capacity
2012-> they will construct the retractable roof !!!

i think they do like in england: Upgrade in function of sold out seats (like manchester,Newcastle)



So anything can happen between this expansion (2010) and the adding of a retractable roof (2012)? Great.

I really think that with a more commfortable stadium, Lens average attendance will rise greatly.
Lens have a huge fan base in the area so I'll keep dreaming of an 56.000+ felix bollaert.

This project shows how pricey a good renovation can be. A 100M for 8000 seats a hotel, conference center, restaurants, concept store etc.

This project shows how pricey a good renovation can be. A 100M for 8000 seats a hotel, conference center, restaurants, concept store etc.

And you'll have to add the cost of the roof to those 100 millions isn't it?

Exterior looks a mess.

Exterior looks a mess.


It's a little bit asymtrical of course but I find things melt themselves great.
I love it.
Thumbs up to the architect!

It does bring a bit of variety to the dull bowl stadia thing going everywhere now don't you think?!

Yes Neda say, I like the fact you can't take this stadium for another.

I really like the overall look of the stadium but I can't bare myself to find it "unfinished".
If it's done on purpose by the architect as Axelferis suggested, I don't find it an especially efficient idea. Perhaps more pix could make me revise my point of view.

Of course, the stadium will keep it's feeling and be very beautiful but i would love it better if it was corner-filled.

Bollaert will always remain assymterical, thanks to the railway...

France for Euro 2016!!!!:cheers:

This stadium at the moment is shit.

Ive been there twice to watch Man United and on both occasions there have been problems with space and fan facilities.

Police in Lens are shit too.

poor.

This stadium at the moment is shit.

Ive been there twice to watch Man United and on both occasions there have been problems with space and fan facilities.

Police in Lens are shit too.

poor.

you play lille? and this stadium i never gone but the ambiance is known to be enthusiast for ligue fans...

This stadium at the moment is shit.

Ive been there twice to watch Man United and on both occasions there have been problems with space and fan facilities.

Police in Lens are shit too.

poor.


Congratulations! Man U will be wiped out again before getting to CL Final. That's because of arrogant and rude fans like you. haha

The Presidential tribune and the bevelled one will be hard to transform/expand in case someone want to furhter enlarge the stadium.
Of course, there will surely be work on their top to support the retractable roof but I don't seem them someday expand as long as the railway will be behind.

I respect the idea of the architect and admit it's pleasant to the eye but the corner that Axelferis named "closing gap" in his retouched pictures should have been filled with seats.
After all, the stadium would has still kept its caché because the corner on the right side of the bevelled tribune don't seems to be closed and the hostel, behing round and at few yards from the pitch, cannot really be considered as a closing gap.

But with so much open "walls", won't the inside of the stadium be too exposed to the wind and low temperatures when winter strikes?

the stadium will be like ibrox.

and the corners wal will support giant screens like ibrox. It's cool

the stadium will be like ibrox.

and the corners wal will support giant screens like ibrox. It's cool

Like Ibrox?
HOW DO YOU DARE????????

sorry axelferis but I couldn't resist...:)

After all, in every other topic about a new stadium, you always say "This future X stadium looks like (already existing) Y stadium".

Personally, I don't care if a stadium looks like one another. If you built your stadium after an already existing superb stadium plan, it's ok with me because you'll have something very good in the end. that's perhaps you're surely right Axelferis : Everybody wants to be original but the final goal is to end up with a great stadium.

Imagine France need a 90.000 stadium and built a copycat of Wembley.
everybody will say that this is INDEED a Wembley-bis and will blame us for that..
But after all, if you paid the architect who designed wembley, he will not complain.
The bottom line is that you'll end up with a stadium everybody is happy with it.

A final note for people who are not french :
I took Wembley as an exemple. For me Wembley is far for being the best stadium in the world, better ones are stade de France, Nou camp, Reliant stadium and Allianz arena among others.

i don't say bollaert will be exactly like ibrox but i mean it will have elements in common . i'm not the architect of Lens Vilak :)

i would do another thing in this case like corner seats!

But martel said that the project could evole and it's not all decided about the roof etc..

New renders will come next month. Don't remeber they want the Document of "Commission sur les stades en france"conducted by Seguin ,aulas,martel,Thiiez and co!!!

Financements could make the stadium evolve a lot you know.. we have to wait.

i don't say bollaert will be exactly like ibrox but i mean it will have elements in common . i'm not the architect of Lens Vilak :)

i would do another thing in this case like corner seats!

But martel said that the project could evole and it's not all decided about the roof etc..

New renders will come next month. Don't remeber they want the Document of "Commission sur les stades en france"conducted by Seguin ,aulas,martel,Thiiez and co!!!

Financements could make the stadium evolve a lot you know.. we have to wait.


The fact the project could evolve make me seriously hope for better things.
Mmmmm... you says very pleasant things so I'll be patient.

Maybe does this enlargement include upgrading facilities(seats, restrooms etc) or is it dedicated only to increasing capacity?

For example, judging from various pics of seats in French stadiums, many of them need changing into new seats - They were old and incomfortable, many of which even have no backrest.

As for adding a retractable roof in 2012, I don't think it's a good decision. As far as I know it is not so cold and rainy to have a retractable roof in France. Forgive me if I'm wrong.

For that money, I think, RC Lens had better further increase the capacity or strengthen their squad. That would be more useful for increasing attendance figures.

As for adding a retractable roof in 2012, I don't think it's a good decision. As far as I know it is not so cold and rainy to have a retractable roof in France. Forgive me if I'm wrong.

For that money, I think, RC Lens had better further increase the capacity or strengthen their squad. That would be more useful for increasing attendance figures.

that's why lille include a roof :)

Heh, I love Lens. The stadium is already bigger than the town and they're making it bigger.

Heh, I love Lens. The stadium is already bigger than the town and they're making it bigger.

I like that a lot too! And the fans are the best in the country too!

Of course they deserve such a stadium.
For the retractable roof, I've mixed feeling. Does the missing degrees for 3/4 games a year are really worth the price of a retractable roof? Bollaert attendance depends of the opponent team, not the weather. Lens fans have a lion's heart.

Of course they deserve such a stadium.
For the retractable roof, I've mixed feeling. Does the missing degrees for 3/4 games a year are really worth the price of a retractable roof? Bollaert attendance depends of the opponent team, not the weather. Lens fans have a lion's heart.

I agree with you, there's no real need of retractable roof for bollaert but as someone said, things are not fixed.
An expansion will take place, for sure, but we don't know yet, despite the preliminary renders, what exactly will happen except from the capacity entering the 50k seats level.

I don't expect the final result to be that much different than those renders.
I pray they fill the corner of the rebuilt stand....

Martel said nothing's fixed yet so you can dream.

Martel said nothing's fixed yet so you can dream.

Perhaps but I'm sure it will be much of what Axelferis showed to us.

Nothing new? Martel must be busy trying to save the club...

A very big satellite view of the stadium :

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/249/bollaerthl3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

In the future of this stadium I see less trees, less parking and a lot more dust and noise for the greater good. But why oh why nobody saw that the stadium was way to close to the road! they could have moved the stadium back to the centre of the lot!

It's a railway, not a road but I think that's the problem remains the same (does it?).

Good point!!! : Which came to life first? the stadium or the railway?

I agree with you that most of the closer trees will have to go if the north stand is rebuilt but I would love for them to stay.

My guess is that when they first built the stadium, the stand most likely weren't large enough to be influenced by the railway tracks. When the stadium later was enlargened, it came into contact with the tracks.

But this is a complete stab in the dark :P

i got this pictures form the lens official web site. it show the location of the felix bollaert at 1934. the railway was already there before the staium was constructed

http://i27.tinypic.com/29o5oog.jpg

http://i32.tinypic.com/4gjg9f.jpg

as i dont speak french i dont really know what it says but for some picures i believe the stadium had first an oval shape, that changed due to the renovations for the 1977 uefa cup partisipation, the 1984 bid for the eurocup and the 1998 world cup.

http://www.rclens.fr/club/stade_histoire

Absolutly, you understood well what was said.
This stadium is magic, I can't wait to see the next evolution achieved.

Whatever, you can see clearly on the satellite pix that there's a lot of place around 70% of the stadium and that you can expand it at will.

Recently I don't see Axelferis in French stadium threads. Did he leave the forum? I miss his cynisism and thank Vilak for keeping posting here :okay:

i got this pictures form the lens official web site. it show the location of the felix bollaert at 1934. the railway was already there before the staium was constructed

http://i27.tinypic.com/29o5oog.jpg

http://i32.tinypic.com/4gjg9f.jpg

as i dont speak french i dont really know what it says but for some picures i believe the stadium had first an oval shape, that changed due to the renovations for the 1977 uefa cup partisipation, the 1984 bid for the eurocup and the 1998 world cup.

http://www.rclens.fr/club/stade_histoire

Ok which idiot kept building up a stadium so close to a railway!? I know it gives it charm but what the heck?

good point!
As always, you put the salt on the wound and you're right!!!
don't know what to think...
Perhaps at the time it was built nobody knew what kind of passion football could become for Lens...
Yes, i know, it's dumb but that's the most understandable thing I could come up with...

good point!
As always, you put the salt on the wound and you're right!!!
don't know what to think...
Perhaps at the time it was built nobody knew what kind of passion football could become for Lens...
Yes, i know, it's dumb but that's the most understandable thing I could come up with...

Good try!

But back to business. Lens is on it's way to at least a year in purgatory! Which would be just perfect to expand the stadium however if they were not to come back in L1 immediately... You know where I'm heading aren't you guys!

I don't see how lens could start the expansion this summer as nothing is fixed yet.
The Axelferris pix are not definitive, a lot of thing can change and I suppose the green light has not been yet given to Martel. Also, i don't remeber if the money has been yet found.

No offense to people living in Toulouse but i would prefer to see the TFC go to ligue2 rather than Lens or PSG...

Seriously I want Lens and Toulouse to remain in L1 and Paris stupid Gutters to spend one nice year in L2.

Question is should Lens spend some times in L2 quid of the expansion?

since a while i haven't been here...a sentimental deception in my life made me to be sad last days :( .no news for the moment for the stadium

Well we'll see what happens to this project now! It was supposed to be completed by 2010/11. Taking advantage of one year in League 2 might make sense as the stadium shouldn't be as full as in L1 but as it is Lens that might not be true. I hope they can pull a "Nantes" and bounce back immediately.

If they choose not to do it next season the project might get delayed by years to give time to the club to reestablish itself.

So they need to hurry up the things.
But you're absolutly right!
My team Nimes reach ligue2! I'll see lens next years! Whaou!

Lens is not supposed to stay more than one year in ligue 2 so I think it won't put the expansion in jeopardy.
The fans let their disgust show saturday night but I'm pretty sure their support will be the same next year.
Now being the time to expand it is another question I can't answer.

Lens is not supposed to stay more than one year in ligue 2 so I think it won't put the expansion in jeopardy.
The fans let their disgust show saturday night but I'm pretty sure their support will be the same next year.
Now being the time to expand it is another question I can't answer.

I aggree do you extend a stadium while playing in a inferior division. Even if logic dictates that Lens will not remain in L2 more than a year it's a huge gamble! Fail to come back immediately and become the laughing stock of the league. Not that I think it will happen but Lens needs to focus on the sports aspect of things right now: building the most competitive team to bounce back without breaking a nervous sweat!. if by early december things are looking up start in January. I think it would be wise to phase the project in the current circumstances.

Lens is not supposed to stay more than one year in ligue 2 so I think it won't put the expansion in jeopardy.

I agree: Lens owners made several mistakes this years.
Guy Roux, Jean Pierre Papin, Runge, Moreira...

Lens is not supposed to stay more than one year in ligue 2 so I think it won't put the expansion in jeopardy.

I agree: Lens owners made several mistakes this years.
Guy Roux, Jean Pierre Papin, Runge...

:carrot: :banana:
^^even the dancing veggies and fruits are in Lens' colors :cucumber:
hehehehe, sorry Axelferis, all your hate could not sink Paris

fluctuat nec mergitur

the Lensoises deception almost made my heart ache, even more so than when Nantes went down, especially when you know the rugby town that couldn't care less about football Toulouse could have been the one going down instead.
but if there is one guy to blame for Lens, it is Guy Roux. I've never been able to stand him. In fact, the one team I wanted to go down has always been his Auxerre. Especially when you know Auxerre lost 3 times to Paris this season. Honestly, you really deserve to play in ligue 2 if you manage to lose to us three times during this crappy season of ours :lol:

I agree: Lens owners made several mistakes this years.
Guy Roux, Jean Pierre Papin, Runge, Moreira...

I didn't particulary followed Lens this year but it seems Runje was good? Did I miss something?
Can you describe me in which way each of those name hurt the club? (serious question, I'm not kidding)
Thank you.

I would like to point something :
If it's a question of bad choice that made Lens play football so bad, there's no need to restart from the begining, Martel must just be more careful when he choose somebody for a spot in his club.

:carrot: :banana:
^^even the dancing veggies and fruits are in Lens' colors :cucumber:
hehehehe, sorry Axelferis, all your hate could not sink Paris

fluctuat nec mergitur

:lol:


lens deserves to be in league 2. they just palyed too bad all the season long.

Psg? i don't care...

lens deserves to be in league 2. they just palyed too bad all the season long.

Psg? i don't care...

Hey I actually am the PSG basher on these thread!!!

is it True that Lens may be saved and stay in ligue1 if Grenoble can found the money they acutally miss?

It is possible yes
But I think Grenoble will be in L1, it's wonderfull for this town so they will do all it s possible to have enought mmoney to get up in l1

Grenoble is owned by a Japanese group the Index group! I don't believe for a minute that they can't find the money just tell me that they want more money from local and regional government!

This group is in deficit of 100 000 000 euros ! ! !

So what! Sell the club to the highest bidder, it has a brand new stadium, a good city, a good market... If they can't pull it off they have nothing to do in either L1 or 2 they should not even be authorized in National championship! This is pro sports or what! Do or die! The city can back the club up to a point so can the region. Find the right people to get the job done or don't come whining that you cannot pull it off!

Does somebody have big pics of the old stadiums?
Especially the stands and the seats

You can find pics here:http://france.stades.free.fr/SITE/DISTRICTS/ISERE/GRENOBLE%20Lesdiguieres/grenoble_lesdiguieres.htm

And lots of many stadiums in France

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3552/3357280130_d6047af12d_b.jpg

It's look Like Lyon's Stadium ( Gerland )

The model looks very nice!!!!
I hope it becomes a reality soon!

This pix show the stadium completed but the work will be done in two separate phases:
1: the expansion of the capacity
2: the building of a retractable roof.
They should hurry up the things I think.

This pic is from my post in the UEFA 2016 bids thread and I took it in a French football forum, I don't know if this plan is the latest because there isn't a lot of news from Lens municipality and RC Lens.

As far as I know the rectractable roof was canceled !

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=33652430&postcount=827

Any news?

No really new, but nobody talking about the real fact for this stadium so I'll develop a little.

The plan for this stadium exist from a long time ago, but the football club, RC Lens, or the city have no enought money for it. Thank of the opportunity to have the Euro 2016, this plan pick-up.

http://www.cardete-huet.com/images/morfeoshow/stade_lens-5759/big/lens22.jpg
The evolution of the stadium was designed by the Cardete et Huet architects. See the site here:
http://www.cardete-huet.com/fr/references/equipements-sportifs/168-stade-de-lens

(This website was cancelled, but recently it appears again)

So they plan to improve the stadium up to 50.000 size for 110M€.

And the big rumor was that they found a naming (sponsorshing for the stadium): AUCHAN (it is a french Supermarkt company, also named "Alcampo" in spain because the name means that "in the field")

Nice evolution from a football stadium downto a supermarkt.
http://www.rclens.fr/site/stade_presentation/Image2.jpg

History:
http://www.rclens.fr/site/stade_presentation/index.php

^^ Capacity: 44.000 (40,113 during Euro/net cap.), according the latest news and the French Euro 2016 bid book ;) !

And about the naming rights, I think "Auchan" is not really serious... Anyway nothing official for now !

^^ Euro2016 in France

^^ Capacity: 44.000 (40,113 during Euro/net cap.), according the latest news and the French Euro 2016 bid book ;) !

And about the naming rights, I think "Auchan" is not really serious... Anyway nothing official for now !

Very Strange as Martel, Lens predident AND the loudest voice about upgrading french stadiums, want to top the 50k mark.

Very Strange as Martel, Lens predident AND the loudest voice about upgrading french stadiums, want to top the 50k mark.
No money, Lens is a city which is rather poor, they have not enough money to build 50K above with the Ligue 2.

Very Strange as Martel, Lens predident AND the loudest voice about upgrading french stadiums, want to top the 50k mark.

Extracted from the interview of G. Martel by the RC Lens official website:
Quelle sera la capacité du futur Bollaert ?

"44 000 places qui seront des vraies places ! On n’a pas uniquement traité les places privilégiées mais celles de l’ensemble du stade. On a travaillé au niveau du confort des sièges mais aussi au niveau "météorologiques" puisque toutes les places seront enfin à l’abri. On a aussi pensé au confort visuel car il n’y aura plus de poteaux dans le stade, ce qui gênait énormément pour de nombreuses places à Bollaert."
RCLens.fr (janvier 2010)

Martel and Aulas are becoming twins...
Aulas dreamt of a 70k stadium and will end up with a 60k one
Martel dreamt of a 50k stadium and will end up with à 44k one.

^^ I have to add that Martel said there will certainly standing areas/terraces for the domestic matches (such as in Germany), which would increase the capacity around 50K during Ligue 1 games !

PS: OL Land is approx. 62K not 60 ;) (which is not that bad IMHO) !

Any news?

That project probably won't happen. The club is heading toward the french second division and definitely won't have the required funds to refurbish the stadium... I have even read that the club would go bankrupt if relegated

for sure this club is doomed to mess with mediocrity! :ohno:
How many cities will give up euro? Turkey should have won it!

How this candidature could have been made ?! :rant!

With the euro 2016, the french government will inject money in this projet so i think nothing yet fixed. I wish RC Lens to save its place in ligue1.

you don't understand that this project costs 100 millions and the club can't afford it ! What governement will do? to give 8 or 10 millions? and you believe with that you could do something? Martel has no money!

^^ You forgot the local authorities who will pay 50-70M for this project.....

An the RC Lens President (Gervais Martel) has never said that the club will fund alone its 30-40M part...

pff this project is doomed!

^^ If you say so ! :|

pff this project is doomed!

we hope so

The new pictures of bollaert:

Source Lensois.com

Presentation du 28.01.11

http://img10.hostingpics.net/pics/368202Stade.png

link to te site: footblog: 3 pics of Bollaert 2016

http://planete-lens.footblog.fr/826617/Le-nouveau-Bollaert/

Any news on this project?

Well it's still a real mess !! :

The stadium project cost was lowered from 120M€ to 80M€ last year
Despite this drop the project is not financed at 100%
and Club President Gervais Martel 's got serious legal problems linked to the stadium...

But there is a glimmer of hope since Credit Agricole (2nd biggest french bank) is now the owner and the decision maker of the club. They had a positive meeting with city and french sports secretary to settle the file in early january

the final decision will be certainly announced in end of march for the 3 last euro 2016 stadiums proposals : Lens, Paris and Metz.

My prediction is that this project will appear soon with the mention "CANCELLED PROJECT"

This club is not serious! They have debts they still continue in League 2 next season, their president is the target of law for contract infringement+escroquery organized.

Only their fans continue to dream about this renovation.

Trust me this stadium won't be in the final list for euro 2016.

A project which at beginning was due to 100% private then private money.
Now it is turning into 100% public debt-> Do you realize in this economic troubles context that politics should have another things to do with money than dig taxpayers in this "architectural madness" :nuts:

I don't want this project to be renovated now because they don't have money and they want all north region taxpayers raise funds for that thing :rant:

It is the 3rd time in 30 years this stadium has to be renovated :ohno:
Fed up with crap projects. I prefer to destroy them entirely to start a whole new project without this railways line passing close to a tribune.

Trust me i predict the cancellation of this project.

Is it still an EURO 2016 project?

^^ For now: Yes ! ;)

@sercan-> some serious doubts are in this project. But it still in the list for 2016 like...Nancy was before has been cancelled.

Then get ready to retire this stadium for 2016.
Bets are opened.

Bets are opened.

Yeah, just like you said, my dear crystal ball owner, several years ago on this forum that the Lille stadium will never be built ? :laugh: (I have a very good memory, and I remember very well your signature about that ;)), or more recently when you claimed every time you could in numerous different threads on this board that the Lyon stadium will never be built (I remember very well your posts on this matter as well), and on and on..................

So, why don't you stop with your stupid predictions (whether they're right or not... oh, and not to mention that you have one chance out of two to be right: not that hard ;)) ! ... I mean, seriously, don't you have better to do than useless pessimistic predictions ?

if you have nothing to do except trolling what i say i can't nothing for you :D

Yes in the past i was sceptic for Lille because of the first cancelled stadium.

Lyon without "déclaration d'intérêt" would surely had been on the paper until 2013 again.

I was right on certain projects (strasbourg,nancy)

Then please don't act like if you wasn't informed that the financement of this project is very uncertain.

I don't want to be a naive who believe again a sort of "nancy 2016" that we know today what happened.

I'm not nostradamus ,neither you then don't contradict me when you are unable to lay on the table elements which lead us to think that this project will be realized!

Yeah, just like you said, my dear crystal ball owner, several years ago on this forum that the Lille stadium will never be built ? :laugh: (I have a very good memory, and I remember very well your signature about that ;)), or more recently when you claimed every time you could in numerous different threads on this board that the Lyon stadium will never be built (I remember very well your posts on this matter as well), and on and on..................
Then we should take the uncertainty of Lens as a good sign! :)

PS: You shouldn't have said that, now you're the troll here :lol:

Nobody today can tell if it will be done or not
But Credit Agricole bank looks confident so...

confident?

They plan to sell this club. the stadium story is not their affair.It has been introduced before them.

They confident on the fact they want to get rid of the ownership and give back it to regional authority+city of lens.

They don't want to pay that stadium.that what's confident means in this total joke story.

David douillet which gave the "guarantees" shouldn't be there after elections and we'll see what will happen in reality.

You shouldn't have said that, now you're the troll here

???

I'm not Nostradamus ,neither you then don't contradict me

Well, I know you love to make comparisons between apples and oranges.... But, but, but unlike you did/do, I personally never made any prediction !
(So, aren't you able to see the difference(s), my deeeaaar Axel ? Are you ?? :dunno:)

the point here that is this stadium is in troubles.
It isn't sailing in blue ocean but in red one.

This is the only thing i express

the point here that is this stadium is in troubles.


Indeed ! (although nothing final has already been decided yet AFAIK.. )

So, IMHO, no need to further pessimistic predictions!...Don't you think ? (that was my point ! ;))

After nancy story where we had a remake of "tout va bien madame la marquise" i prefer to be pessimistic first .

And one thing is to mention to everybody:

In a case of public project, a new bid must go in process and chose the final project.

Then it is possible that we have new renders of the project indeed if they are unable to gather 78 millions € on the table :(
This could take several months :|

let's stay cautious with this project i repeat...

In the news today : http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Un-ultime-espoir-pour-bollaert/271396

To sum up : they plan to transfer authority to the region council in order to find financial funds.

I have to confess I don't understand everything, but it seems to be the last chance to save the project.

the last chance...

Lens community has to put 12 million on the table in this case but the mayor of lens doesn't want to pay!

The club want to keep the actual contract because it is profitable for them to be the "owner" of stadium

If the region takes in charge the whole stadium, the club would pay much more to play there.

It is a nonsense situation :nuts:

i am very sceptic.

the last chance...

i am very sceptic.

Any news for 2013 on this project?

they seem on track to have the financement.

But the capcity will be lowered and a new design is to be unveiled due to the restrictive money for the stadium (70 millions €)

I don't wait too much for that low cost project. with toulouse they will be the worst stadiums for 2016 and a shame for our country.

and a shame for our country.

Says who? Oh, yes, I see: says Axel and only him (:ohno:)!




No comment!




(i.e. next time you'll make such a definitive judgment, speak on behalf of yourself (and only yourself), if you don't mind! ;))

then you find those stadiums have real ambitions ?
It 's just some refurbishment without class and you dare to come here to say bul****** ??!

So no financial help from the regional government?

Says who? Oh, yes, I see: says Axel and only him (:ohno:)!


No comment!


(i.e. next time you'll make such a definitive judgment, speak on behalf of yourself (and only yourself), if you don't mind! ;))

It was his opinion. That is obvious to everyone but you it seems.

It was his opinion. That is obvious to everyone but you it seems.

Since I haven't seen yet the new Lens project I can't give my opinion about it (maybe you do, but I don't). BTW the former project was good IMHO.

Regarding Toulouse stadium, what's wrong with it ? I've been to this stadium several times and I think it's a good stadium (even in term of hospitality etc, since it has been renovated and upgraded more than a couple of times during the last decade). The main issues with it are the seats & the lower tiers, and that's exactly what they are going to change & rebuild. (and it doesn't need an expansion, especially according to the very low attendance figures in Toulouse which is not a footy city at all).

Maybe some guys like you would like all stadiums to be fully rebuilt every 2 years and the Euro cup hosted in 10-12 brand new 60K stadiums :nuts:....Sorry to disappoint you but that's not going to happen especially when existing infrastructures can be used/renovated and nothing to be ashamed of about that!

I mean France is not different to other big countries with old football/sporting traditions that already have sports infrastructures, because if you compare with the past tournaments, most of them was hosted with a mix of existing/refurbished and brand new venues: Germany 2006, RSA 2010 etc. France is not Qatar or Turkey.

So, IMHO, France 2016 doesn't have to be ashamed at all about Toulouse or even Lens stadiums, compared to Franken Stadion during Germany 2006 (which btw has an athletics track while Toulouse and Lens don't), or even the brand new (but quite simple in terms of facilities and design) Zentralstadion, or compared to Kharkiv stadium during Euro 2012, or compared to Prater Stadion during Euro 2008, or compared to Rustenburg stadium and some of the other existing venues used during RSA 2010, etc etc.
(not to mention that Euro Cup is not only about stadiums you know, and in terms of cities, quality of transportation, tourism spots and infrastructure, etc, France doesn't have to be ashamed either, faaaar from that I think, so don't worry, France 2016 will be great just like France '98 was and that's the most important, don't you think? ;))


Anyway, I think that you guys seem to forget that Germany didn't host with 12 Allianz Arenas in 2006 (Germany which is quite a good example to follow in terms of stadium infrastructure), same about for example the EPL, which is not played at 20 Emirates Stadiums, far from that. etc etc.



PS: About the Axel's post, indeed he gave his opinion, so maybe he could have added some words like "I think" or "in my opinion" etc, in his sentence ;). Because, again, this is only his opinion, and not an absolute and universal fact/ truth. (that's what I meant with my last post)

Well spoken parcdesprinces, I totally agree with you. Enough is enough.