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hariskec
February 8th, 2008, 09:54 AM
New project by Avaz Group next to existing Avaz Twist Tower.
By same local architect - Faruk Kapidžić - ADS Group.
This tower will look like a chess queen figure.
Project is proposed and now is waiting for approval by city authorities.

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3604/avazqueentwisttower01gc4.jpg

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/1863/avazqueentwisttower02mc1.jpg

For Avaz Twist Tower look at: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=477118

Buyckske Ruben
February 8th, 2008, 10:08 AM
Stunning! :nuts: good for Sarajevo! A very original design. The Balkan is growing go go go.

LeMoN-SK
February 8th, 2008, 10:43 AM
Not bad, the Twist Tower looks much better though...

SanYava
July 19th, 2008, 04:05 PM
I like how this tower looks.
Look how ATT is alone on Marindvor and it doesn't look nice.
I hope this tower will be built faster than the other tower.
:bash::ohno:

AdnanPD
July 19th, 2008, 04:14 PM
Obožavam izgled Kraljičinog tornja.
Zaista je prelijep, pogledajte kako je ružno kad samo ATT stoji na Marindvoru sve ostalo je bezveze oko njega:bash::ohno:


Please only English on this part of the forum.
Samo na engleskom na ovom dijelu foruma.

AQT is really nice, another unique tower for Sarajevo. :banana:

Hope they will build more towers in that part of the city.

How cool would it be that Bosmal towers are near the ATT and AQT :(

LoKeY
July 19th, 2008, 05:08 PM
Looks like Bender (from Futurama) hitting on a female robot :|

LordMarshall
July 19th, 2008, 08:45 PM
it would be nice for the bosmal towers to be closer but this way at least the concentration of projects is distributed. projections show that the city will have about 700 million marks of construction investment this year out of that 40 percent is concentrated in the area of Marin Dvor which is where we see the ATT and AQT towers.

the legal hurdles for AQT are over and the tower should start by the end of this year.

SanYava
July 27th, 2008, 06:05 PM
Please only English on this part of the forum.
Samo na engleskom na ovom dijelu foruma.

AQT is really nice, another unique tower for Sarajevo. :banana:

Hope they will build more towers in that part of the city.

How cool would it be that Bosmal towers are near the ATT and AQT :(

I understand English:)
I think they will build more and more towers at Marindvor's place, soon.
I don't think that Bosmal Towers would look nice with ATT&AQT complex.
Bosmal looks more like some building from early '80.-ies, and Avaz TT&QT are some kind of future in Sarajevo.
Any way, I love it:)

Blue-9
July 27th, 2008, 11:53 PM
A fitting building for such a beautiful part of the World.

Bosnia must be a very different Country than I saw over a decade ago, but I am looking forward to my next visit even more now.

Alle
July 28th, 2008, 11:42 PM
I understand English:)
I think they will build more and more towers at Marindvor's place, soon.
I don't think that Bosmal Towers would look nice with ATT&AQT complex.
Bosmal looks more like some building from early '80.-ies, and Avaz TT&QT are some kind of future in Sarajevo.
Any way, I love it:)


Just to explain a few errors in your observation. The first is the private homes that you see have mostly been built without any authorization or permits (the older ones had been tagged for demolition 25 years ago). Number two the tower is actually right next to two of principle transport corridors which are now in the final pre construction faze.
The zoning for that area has been for the longest time industrial and commercial and is at the intersection of 2 city highways both have been in city’s urban blueprint from the late 70’s and construction was started on one (northern bypass) but both projects were halted because of lack of funds in the pre-olympic years and halted a second time due to the war.
This tower is lesser of a problems in Sarajevo the biggest being illegal and uncontrolled private home construction.




So I think so as well, its planned to be used as such a zone, its not like its the old city or something.

I also agree that the Bosmal towers would not look good in that area. Whats important for buildings is their functionality and esthetics in their given location.


As for this tower, I dont like the "crown". The good thing is as many others have commented about this project already, that it is a complex. Otherwise the whole crown things is really bad.

AdnanPD
July 29th, 2008, 12:25 PM
I also agree that the Bosmal towers would not look good in that area. Whats important for buildings is their functionality and esthetics in their given location

It doesn't need to be right next to ATT but just a little bit closer. So when u look from some angle u can get a skyline. Bosmal should be somewhere on Grbavica and closer to Skenderija not so far away on Otoka.

Jarmo K
July 29th, 2008, 02:22 PM
omfg this is hideous. both of them are... what the hell's wrong with this architect? let me guess - he's some guy whose best work is from 1980's and since then he has no idea what is going on in the world of architecture...

can any of the bosnian forumers provide some info about this faruk kapidžić? can't seem to find any on from the net... guess he doesn't have a homepage...

MelbourneMaverick
July 29th, 2008, 07:03 PM
They both look awsome just cause you can't cope originality.

AdnanPD
July 30th, 2008, 12:06 PM
omfg this is hideous. both of them are... what the hell's wrong with this architect? let me guess - he's some guy whose best work is from 1980's and since then he has no idea what is going on in the world of architecture...

can any of the bosnian forumers provide some info about this faruk kapidžić? can't seem to find any on from the net... guess he doesn't have a homepage...

These towers are unique and very nice you should go and look at the Avaz Twist Tower thread and see how nice it is when almost done.

Bosnia was always unique and it will stay that way we don't need to copy from others ;)

hariskec
July 30th, 2008, 09:15 PM
omfg this is hideous. both of them are... what the hell's wrong with this architect? let me guess - he's some guy whose best work is from 1980's and since then he has no idea what is going on in the world of architecture...

can any of the bosnian forumers provide some info about this faruk kapidžić? can't seem to find any on from the net... guess he doesn't have a homepage...

Hm. Faruj Kapidzic is a young architect. Here is a web page about ADS Group architects where you can find some of there works:
http://www.bosna-s.ba/File/bosna-ads/index.htm

Jarmo K
July 31st, 2008, 07:44 PM
thanks a lot, hariskec! (:

i looked through the office's homepage, and to be honest - i only found one thing i actually liked [the turkish ziraat bank competition entry project...]

otherwise these architects seem to be stuck in 1980's... i can see faruj's style is deeply influenced by his father ahmet's... [at least it seems so.]

i'll look through some a10 (http://www.a10.eu/architects/country.php?country=Bosnia+and+Herzegovina) numbers which mention contemporary architecture in b&h. i'm sure [at least i hope] this kind of degenerate architecture, this sort of mutated postmodernism, as seen above in this thread is not the mainstream "style" down south of europe... : /

Jarmo K
July 31st, 2008, 07:45 PM
These towers are unique and very nice you should go and look at the Avaz Twist Tower thread and see how nice it is when almost done.

Bosnia was always unique and it will stay that way we don't need to copy from others ;)

i've seen the thread and i really-really don't think it's nice :D

no hard feelings, it's just not my taste (:

Alle
July 31st, 2008, 07:56 PM
thanks a lot, hariskec! (:

i looked through the office's homepage, and to be honest - i only found one thing i actually liked [the turkish ziraat bank competition entry project...]

otherwise these architects seem to be stuck in 1980's... i can see faruj's style is deeply influenced by his father ahmet's... [at least it seems so.]

i'll look through some a10 (http://www.a10.eu/architects/country.php?country=Bosnia+and+Herzegovina) numbers which mention contemporary architecture in b&h. i'm sure [at least i hope] this kind of degenerate architecture, this sort of mutated postmodernism, as seen above in this thread is not the mainstream "style" down south of europe... : /


I found a couple of ones which I like. But I guess it depends on your perception of what modern architecthure is and/or should be like. The important thing is that it fits with its environment.

I do agree that the queen tower is quite peculiar. I think that simple and stylisticly pure is the way to go with a touch of green in Bosnia becaus eof its nature, but then there are also other local influences as well as technological and infrastructural limitations and possibilities.

Im not sure about the twist tower either, because I doubt how well it will look in a surrounding with more high rise office facilities conglomerated there in the future, as its likely to happen. Especially since it has the spire also. But it looks fine so far.

P.S. I see you have a blog called destuctivist, well, we are bound to differ then. I dont like that at all, in fact there is a lot with modern architechture i dont like. Edges pointing in all directions, unnatural, grotesque shapes that stick out like sore thumbs, metallic parts, random shapes that a three year old could put together put in the middle of some old well designed place... but then there is also a lot of good things going on though ;). And the good factors as far as im concerned is the stylistic purity, cleanness, open and bright and accessible areas etc.

I think facilities should melt in with/interact with their environment through similarities but also provide a comfortable space for its users, which is natural to use and designed around its application and its needs and possibilities, and encouraging these possibilities and usages.

SanYava
August 2nd, 2008, 09:28 PM
i've seen the thread and i really-really don't think it's nice :D

no hard feelings, it's just not my taste (:

Look, I understand that you don't like the tower, and that's your right, but why don't you look from the other side - this is a modern architecture.
Can you imagine??? MODERN ARHITECTURE in SARAJEVO?:nuts:
Sarajevo was always behind Belgrade and Zagreb because people who were on the "RIGHT" places in ex -Yu, they always put Sarajevo at second place, because it was a city with much more muslims than any other (I mean on capital citys in ex -Yu).
Now - it's time for Sarajevo to show it's talents.
:banana:

zameire
August 3rd, 2008, 12:20 AM
like many other vibrant new growing muslim city,
the sceptical about muslim sucess always there
but when chicago got their calatravaish, all over the world clapped just because they use the branding name.
but when dubai did some extraordinary architecture, the other side of the world
said' oh ... it just world of disneyland, rubbish, waste of oil sheikh money'

its so pathetic ...
honestly i like how sarajevo bring back the strength after the WW1 when Ottomon left them. this muslim architect just show his talent in their unique way. well done

SanYava
August 3rd, 2008, 11:34 AM
like many other vibrant new growing muslim city,
the sceptical about muslim sucess always there
but when chicago got their calatravaish, all over the world clapped just because they use the branding name.
but when dubai did some extraordinary architecture, the other side of the world
said' oh ... it just world of disneyland, rubbish, waste of oil sheikh money'

its so pathetic ...
honestly i like how sarajevo bring back the strength after the WW1 when Ottomon left them. this muslim architect just show his talent in their unique way. well done

I think the same:cheers:

Alle
August 4th, 2008, 01:55 AM
like many other vibrant new growing muslim city,
the sceptical about muslim sucess always there
but when chicago got their calatravaish, all over the world clapped just because they use the branding name.
but when dubai did some extraordinary architecture, the other side of the world
said' oh ... it just world of disneyland, rubbish, waste of oil sheikh money'

its so pathetic ...
honestly i like how sarajevo bring back the strength after the WW1 when Ottomon left them. this muslim architect just show his talent in their unique way. well done

I dont think it has much to do with that, the crown of this tower especially is quite a doubtful design decision to say the least.

Same goes with Dubai most of it is just due to ignorance about the market situation there...

Heck im a bosnian and im religiously indifferent, im not sure about this :P . The ottomans didnt "leave" they got kicked out in 1832 but forced their way back... local issues is a different issue. I pardon your lack of knowledge of bosnian history, cant be easy, hehe. But lets get back to topic :) .

zameire
August 7th, 2008, 12:03 AM
that's fine friends
architecture so subjective
its combination of art science of construction
there's always right and wrong
judgement on our reason makes the different
thanks Alle your correction on the history part.

by the way, back to the topic
honestly, by checking the architect's website, i like their architecture style
i am not really like the glass colour
may be the image still in the design process.

peace

7t
August 8th, 2008, 12:34 AM
I share the same view with Jarmo... the design is so 80s and this aplies for the twist tower also. They'll add quantity to Sarajevo's Skyline but not necessarily quality.
City Hall officials should be ashamed of themselves for letting these developers hire mediocre architects to produce such hideous projects of large scale.

Tomesh
August 8th, 2008, 01:07 AM
I also unfortunately think that the architecture and for example the materials used in the towers are hideous. BUT it is good that we are seeing projects of this scale in Sarajevo.

corvus_edin
October 7th, 2008, 09:43 AM
updatepic:

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9885/65039026yp3.jpg

Bboy_Jura_Skyscraper
August 13th, 2010, 06:43 PM
Nema hajra od ovog...:ohno: