Tuguegarao City and Cagayan Province [Archive] - Page 29

Mr. Zee

March 20th, 2011, 08:15 AM

Cagayan Province
"The Land of Smiling Beauty"

Institutional, Industrial and International Trade Center

Cagayan Province lies on the northeastmost part of Luzon occupying the lower basin of the Cagayan River. It is bounded on the east by the Pacific Ocean, on the west by the Cordilleras, on the south by the province of Isabela and on the north by the Babuyan Channel. It is well traversed by many rivers, with Abulug and Cagayan Rivers as the largest. The province comprises an aggregate land area of 9,003 square kilometers, which constitutes three percent of the total land area of the country and is the second largest province in the region.

The Spanish Friars notably the Dominicans, brought Western culture to Cagayan. According to Fr. Francisco Rojano, the great chronicler of the province, Cagayan got its name from the Ilocano word “karayan” or river referring to the Rio Grande de Cagayan. The early Spanish settlers also called it “Rio Ibanag”. The river runs from south in Quirino to the north bisecting the whole valley.

In June 29, 1583, Don Juan de Salcedo traced the northern coastline of Luzon and set foot on the Massi, Tular and Aparri areas. The Spanish Friars soon established mission post in Camalaniugan and Lal-lo, which became the seat of Nueva Segovia established on August 14, 1595. The Spanish influence can still be seen in the massive churches and other buildings that the Spaniards built for the spiritual and social welfare of the people.

With the Treaty of Paris signed in 1898, ending the war between Spain and the United States, America took over the Philippines and enriched the culture notably in agriculture and education and also in public works and communications. Commerce and trade flourished with the construction of roads and bridges linking the various towns of the province.

The Japanese forces occupied Cagayan from December 1941 to July 1945, until the Philippines got its independence in 1946.

Cagayan today is the Regional Seat. Tuguegarao City, the capital, is the seat of commerce and trade and center for learning. The province has the largest marine fishing grounds and 73 percent of the region’s potential fishpond area.

Known as the spelunker’s, trekker’s and gamefisher’s paradise rolled in one, Cagayan provides a never-ending adventure. The province is now being promoted as an adventure and eco-tourism destination. Both foreign and local tourists continue to explore its caves, engage in game fishing expeditions, trek its mighty mountains and retreat to its centuries old churches.

Travel to the province is a never-ending adventure. Daily flights are provided by Cebu Pacific and Air Philippines. Various bus companies have lines to Cagayan Valley Region, while public utility jeepneys, buses, tricycles and calesas are the common mode of transportation for short leisurely trips.

TOURIST ATTRACTIONS/DESTINATIONS

01. The seven-chambered CALLAO Cave boasts of massive limestone formations, skylights and a chapel. It is accessible by climbing the 187-cemented steps provided to reach the cave entrance. After caving, try the Pinacanauan River conducive for kayaking, boating and swimming while the mountains are perfect for trekking and mountaineering. Daily circadian flight of bats from bat cave occur at dusk.

02. The JACKPOT Cave is currently the SECOND DEEPEST cave in the country with a surveyed depth of about 115.0 meters and a surveyed length of 355.0 meters. The cave is recommended for professionals.

03. ODESSA- TUMBALI Cave System is acknowledged to be a true cave system, having multiple entrance and widespread plan shape. It could be the LONGEST CAVE in the country at 12.6kms. A relatively shallow-through river cave, it provides for excellent wet sport caving.

04. SIERRA CAVE has two entrances; one for tourists and another one for acknowledged cavers. The biggest challenge is crawling through a very low and narrow opening called “Celica’s Passage”. Attractions include flowstones, columns and draperies.

05. SAN CARLOS CAVES is probably the toughest cave the Philippines could offer, When inside the cave, spelunkers will learn the art of cave crawling. A chamber called “ice Cream Parlor” contains cluster of white stalagmites that resemble scooped ice cream. The “John the Baptist” chamber is a sump that one has to take a deep breath and swim to the other side of the chamber. Sharp and rough stones could scratch skin and tear clothing. San Carlos requires a lot of swimming because more than half the cave is covered by cold running subterranean river.

06. STA. ANA and the PALAUI ISLAND is 158 kilometers from Tuguegarao City. It is the Philippine Sailfish Capital famous worldwide for its abundant marine life. The Cape Engano Lighthouse in Palaui Island dates back to the Spanish Regime and is the only existing lighthouse in the northeastern coast with white sand beach, rich marine resources and uncontaminated environs. It has been declared under coastal environment protection. Also in Sta. Ana is the Cagayan Special Economic Zone Authority and Free Port and the white sand beaches of Angib.

07. WIDE EXPANSE OF BLACK FINE SAND BEACHES sprawling along the coastal towns of Sanchez Mira, Sta. Praxedes, Claveria, Abulug, Ballesteros, Aparri, Buguey, Gonzaga, and Pamplona and the white sand beaches of Fuga and the Babuyan Group of Islands.

08. BASILICA MINORE OF OUR LADY OF PIAT (The Lady of the Visitation) is located 33 kilometers from Tuguegarao City. Originally called the Lady of the Holy Rosary, perhaps because the devotees of the Rosary, the Dominican Friars, supposedly brought it from Macao to the Philippines in 1604. This more than four-centuries old image was first enshrined in Nueva Segovia now called Lal-lo. The image is famous in the country and abroad as the Black Mary making Piat the Pilgrimage center in the Northeast.

09. ST. PHILOMENE CHURCH in Alcala is the widest brick church in the province. Located along the Maharlika Highway, it stands as a mute witness to the several regimes that have enriched the province’s cultural heritage. Alcala town is also famous for its carabao milk candy.

10. SANTA MARIA BELL in San Jacinto de Polonia Church is said to be the oldest bell in the Far East. Forged in 1595, it was brought to Manila in February 1937 as part of the attractions during the 33rd International Eucharistic Congress. Camalaniugan town is 93.6 kilometers from Tuguegarao city.

11. CAGAYAN RIVER is the Philippine’s mightiest watercourse - the longest at 301 kilometers and widest river in the country. Three major tributaries – Ilagan River, Magat River and Chico River meet other streams and flow to the Cagayan River. The famous “lurung” fish abound in the river during the rainy season when the river is murky and the fishes swim upstream from the delta at Aparri to spawn. It empties at the Aparri estuary.

12. LALLO TOWN is home to the Magapit Hanging Bridge and the St. Dominic Spanish Colonial Church, the former seat of “Ciudad Nueva Segovia” is featured in the annals of Philippine History as one of the four oldest cities in the country. The Magapit Hanging Bridge is the first of its kind in Asia and serves as the gateway to the Ilocos Region through the Cagayan-Ilocos Norte inter- provincial highway.

13. ST. JAMES PARISH CHURCH and the IGUIG CALVARY HILLS is 16 kilometers from Tuguegarao City. In the eleven hectare rolling hills are the larger-than –life size concrete 14 Stations of the Cross depicting Jesus Christ’s suffering before His death on Mount Calvary. The place also features a three centuries old well, a Dominican convent ruin and the scenic view of the Cagayan River a setting of which resembles that of the River Jordan.

14. CARSUMCO or the Cagayan Robina Sugar Milling Corporation is located at Sto. Domingo, Piat that is 20 kilometers from Tuguegarao. Around it are thousands of hectares of sugarcane plantations.

15. FR. GERRY Z. FILIPPETTO, OFP MEMORIAL MUSEUM in Sta. Ana, Cagayan was established to honor the founder of the Franciscan Apostolic Sisters found in Sta. Ana, Cagayan. Religious articles and personal belongings are displayed for viewing.

16. PORTABAGA FALLS in Sta. Praxedes is one of the tallest falls in Cagayan. Approximately 15 meters in height, it has manmade pools and picnic huts for excursionists. Sta. Praxedes is194 kilometers from Tuguegarao City and is about 100 meters from the highway.

17. APARRI DELTA is an impressive expanse of land that is Aparri where one can see the Cagayan River meet with the China Sea. Walk into the jetty to find the estuary of Cagayan River.

18. CALAYAN ISLAND is a destination for nature and adventure lovers; its waters - the Babuyan Channel is home to dolphins and whales. Still in its rare untouched form, the island is best visited during summer for adventure and nature tripping, an island get-away with similar offerings like Batanes. The island is accessible by boat from Aparri. Contact Ms. Bella Llopis at 0921-642-3372 for information and arrangements.

Mr. Zee

March 20th, 2011, 08:17 AM

Tuguegarao City
"The Premiere Ibanag City"
"The Fire City"
"Center of Excellence in Education, Commerce, Trade and Culture"

The capital of the Province of Cagayan and the Regional Center of Cagayan Valley (Region 02) is a major urban center in Northeastern Luzon and a Primary Growth Center. Historically, it is important as the provincial capital of the Province of Cagayan, as a trading center for the Tobacco Monopoly and as the only center for the higher education in Northeast Luzon.

The original inhabitants of Tuguegarao were the Irayas and the Itawes, who built houses and subsisted on fishing, hunting, farming, and livestock raising. They wove cloth and made household and farm implements.

On August 16, 1724, Tuguegarao celebrated its first patronal town fiesta with the completion of the elevated Ermita de San Jacinto. The provincial capital of Cagayan was transferred from Lal-lo to Tuguegarao on May 24, 1839, with the division of “La Provincia de Cagayan” into the southern part called Nueva Vizcaya, and the northern part which retained the name Cagayan.

Tuguegarao’s first school was established in 1892. Formerly belonging to the Diocese of Ciudad Nueva Segovia, Tuguegarao grew to become a separate diocese in 1910. In 1975, it was made the Archdiocese of Tuguegarao. The schools, the government and the church greatly influenced the development of the town- its economy, its services and facilities, and its people.

In 1975, Tuguegarao was chosen the center of Region 2. By 1985, almost all national government agencies had established their regional offices in Tuguegarao, bringing to the region varied and higher-level government services and facilities. The Department of Finance classified Tuguegarao a First Class Municipality in July 1993.

Today, Tuguegaro City (December 18, 1999) is a bustling commercial, education and government center with tall buildings, sprawling school campuses and a government center site. It is now an emerging metropolis and a backbone support to the Cagayan Special Economic Zone and Free Port in Sta. Ana, Cagayan and the Cauayan City Regional Agro-Industrial Center in Isabela.

It has a total area of 144.8 square kilometers. The city is politically subdivided into 49 barangays, 26 of which are urban. In 2000. the city’s population was 120,645. Tuguegarao’s economy slowly shifted from agriculture (primary) to secondary/tertiary economic activities. By providing goods, services and linkages, Tugeugarao City allows the adjacent municipalities in Kalinga and Apayao (CAR), the coastal towns of Ilocos Norte (Region 01) and the region’s industrial centers and agricultural production areas to pursue their development functions in support to the overall regional role. Region 02 is envisioned as an “open growth area and international trade and industrial partner of the East Asian global economy”.

It is the regional tourism service center because of its accessibility to tourism attractions, spots and destinations and because of the existence of reliable facilities for land, water and air transport, communications, power, health, protective services, and finance as well as amenities for dining, lodging, recreation and souvenir shops.

Tuguegarao City is a transport pivotal point in Northern Luzon having three circumferential roads for traffic management. There are 15 bus companies, with both air-conditioned and ordinary buses, servicing Tuguegarao City, along with numerous mini-buses, vans, jeepneys, tricycles and calesas.

The Tuguegarao City Domestic Airport is a modern facility at 21.036 meters or 69 feet above sea level and is capable of servicing a 737 jet plane. Small aircrafts, helicopters and army cargo planes also utilize the airport. Cebu Pacific and Air Philippines are the available domestic airline companies that provide daily flights to the city.

TOURIST ATTRACTIONS/DESTINATIONS

1. BUNTUN BRIDGE is 2.50 kilometers from Tuguegarao City proper. It is the longest river bridge in the country at 1.124 kilometers and offers an unobstructed view of the Cagayan River.

2. ST. PETER CATHEDRAL is the seat of the Archdiocese of Tuguegarao. The church with the belfry is the biggest Spanish built church in Cagayan Valley. Constructed under the supervision of Fr. Antonio Lobato, OP on January 17, 1761 to 1767. The cathedral suffered massive destruction in WWII and was rebuilt by Msgr. Bishop Constance Jurgens who was entombed inside the church. The picture of the Cathedral appears at Rome Basilica and is considered one of the most beautiful works of art in the country and the world today.

3. SAN JACINTO ERMITA CHURCH (St. Hyacinth Church) is an elevated chapel whose construction dates back from 1604. It was reconstructed after World War II. American soldiers in the Filipino-American War used it as headquarters in 1899. It is 100 years older than the St. Peter Cathedral. St Hyacinth is the Patron Saint of Tuguegarao City whose feast is being celebrated on August 15 through the Pav-vurulun Festival.

4. ST. PAUL UNIVERSITY. Sisters of St. Paul of Chartres composed of four French and one Chinese nun founded St. Paul University on May 10, 1907. The school now boasts of being the first University of St. Paul College in the country. The former names of the school were Colegio de San Pablo in 1907 starting with three classes only, then it was changed to Sagrado Corazon de Jesus. World War II heavily damaged the buildings and equipment but the college trudged on bravely changing the name of the school to Sacred Heart of Jesus Institution and transferred to where it stands today. From St. Paul College of Tuguegarao it became St Paul University Philippines in the year 1982. It is the first Catholic university in Asia and the first private university in the country to get an ISO 9001 Certification in 2001.

5. CAGAYAN PROVINCIAL MUSEUM AND HISTORICAL RESEARCH CENTER is for the culture-oriented. Located at the provincial capitol complex, it was conceived by the Provincial Board in 1971 and became operational on its inauguration on August 15, 1973 during the traditional Aggao na Cagayan. It is a general museum and houses an extensive collection of artifacts, antiques, ethnographics, trade wares, heirloom pieces and liturgical works of the province and fossils of animals that once roamed the valley. The center is only five kilometers from Tuguegarao.

antonbirakak

March 20th, 2011, 09:43 AM

@sir anthon... With all due respect, I firmly believe that progress cant be seen in a city hall particularly in the case of Tuguegarao. Reasons: 1. Look on the funding/ financial status of the city 2. Look in to the totality of the city's situation 3. Measure lives of the people/ housing, health etc... ( though, of course Tugue has already achieve a sort of development)...

The question about Tugue's City hall is the propriety of spending more than 200m (@280) in constructing said hall.

yes, kapatid... i got your point, methodically yes financial status, health, housing... but it will just take your time to say this and that city is progressive.. my point is, just by looking the city hall itself?? ano ang masasabi mo?? kung sa mga tao naman, and daming mapoporma pero butas naman ang bulsa.. meron naman simple pero ibang klase pala ang mga suot, simpleng design pero genuine lacoste pala hindi imitation lang!! yun po ang point ko..

without looking into the financial status of a city and just by seeing people, commercial establishments, educational institutions and govt agencies within that city, masasabi natin wow hindi po ba...

let us say, santiago city... just by looking its physical development.. maraming hindi nakakaalam na hindi lang basta 1st class city kundi isa sa pinakamayamang city sa pilipinas in terms of income and in terms of IRA share di b...

sana po nakuha niyo ang point ko.. salamat po..

296619

March 20th, 2011, 10:31 AM

aaah.. Got it sir anthon ;)

Kahit sino makakita ng city hall na yan, mapapa wow! Something Tugue can be proud of...

mrcarig

March 20th, 2011, 04:11 PM

ndi kuh pu kinakampihan, ang akin lang masyado niu pu kasing tinitingnan ung nega advantage lang ng pagpapatayo nung city hall na kung tutuusin may mga pakinabang din...gaya ng pagpaparenta ng ofis sa NSO at DFA which is good kxe may additional income, naging maluwang mas madali para sa mga mamamayan pag magbayad ng mga buwis at madali pra sa mga employees ang magtrabaho, nailapit sa mga regional offices at iwas traffic...etc..
un lang ang akin wag lang natin tingnan ung disadvantages nyan...about sa ginastos na pera na instead na 200M eh naging 280 against din akuh!

ayun pala e. against ka rin pala sa laki ng ginastos e bakit mo ako tinitira? Basahin mo lahat ng post ko kung may sinabi akong hindi dapat sila nagpatayo ng city hall. anong negative ang sinasabi mo? basahin mo ang post #6982 sa archived section para maintindihan mo mubuti ang sinasabi ko. klaro ang pagkasabi ko na ok yung pagpatayo ng bagong city hall.

napakahina mo naman sa math. ang tanong ko sa yo, what is the advantage of spending the additional 80 million? bakit alam mo ba na hindi sila pwede magparenta sa NSO and DFA kung hindi nila ginastos yung additional 80 million?

mrcarig

March 20th, 2011, 04:31 PM

there was once a rumor that what happened was a case of a gun misfiring from its holster. so could that be a reason why no one is apprehended yet? just wonderin.

hanggang ngayon wala pa rin balita kung ano ang tunay na nangyari? binaril yung mayor tapos hindi interasado mahuli yung gumawa? very odd...

mrcarig

March 20th, 2011, 04:44 PM

tanong ko sa inyo, kung may pera kayo at ginastos nyo lahat sa napakandang kotse para hanga sa inyo lahat ng tao tapos yung pala hindi nyo mapakain ang inyong mga anak, tama ba yan?

darylfiremover

March 21st, 2011, 02:39 AM

aaah.. Got it sir anthon ;)

Kahit sino makakita ng city hall na yan, mapapa wow! Something Tugue can be proud of...

however, it could also raise questions...

darylfiremover

March 21st, 2011, 02:41 AM

hanggang ngayon wala pa rin balita kung ano ang tunay na nangyari? binaril yung mayor tapos hindi interasado mahuli yung gumawa? very odd...

odd indeed!!! maybe those undercover cops/investigators work secretly that is why we dont have any news about it...

or maybe not...

Perseus II

March 21st, 2011, 04:54 AM

congratz sa inyong thread 8 Tuguegarao :banana:

lloydbenitez

March 21st, 2011, 07:51 AM

lloydbenitez

March 21st, 2011, 07:53 AM

Tuguegarap City: Regional Tourism Service Center and the jump - off point for other LGU tourist attractions

http://rdurmiendo.brinkster.net/cds/db/cds_cityprofile3.asp?ID=204

lloydbenitez

March 21st, 2011, 07:56 AM

Tuguegarao City's Development Challenges:

1. High Cost of Land and Rentals
2. High Unemployment rate(at 9% and most of it represents those from other municipalities coming over to reside here)
3. Low Agriculture Productivity
4. High Poverty Incidence

http://rdurmiendo.brinkster.net/cds/...le3.asp?ID=204

lloydbenitez

March 21st, 2011, 08:00 AM

Tuguegarao City has the best quality and highest standards of social services in the region.

http://rdurmiendo.brinkster.net/cds/...le3.asp?ID=204

lloydbenitez

March 21st, 2011, 08:04 AM

Tuguegarao City's development challenges:

1. Young Population (48% are in the 0-19 year old age bracket)
2. Weakening Morals
3. Gradual Loss of the Ibanag Culture Heritage

http://rdurmiendo.brinkster.net/cds/...le3.asp?ID=204

lloydbenitez

March 21st, 2011, 08:09 AM

CAGAYAN ON THE RISE

March 21st, 2011, 08:12 AM

Tuguegarao City: the Busiest socio-economic growth center northeast of Manila ang the Backbone of the Agro-industrial center in Cauayan and the Cagayan Economic Zone Authority in Sta. Ana.

http://rdurmiendo.brinkster.net/cds/db/cds_cityprofile3.asp?ID=204

busiest socio-economic??????

well tuguegarao is growing fast and thelumalaki ang commercial area niya at industrial.

sabi nga sa fanpage ng tugue may nagcomment dun sa pic ng downtown tugue sabi niya third best downtown daw ang tuguegarao. peo as far as i know fourth lang tayo. hehe.

lloydbenitez

March 21st, 2011, 08:12 AM

Tuguegarao City has 512 hectares of forest, 435 hectares of which are protected (kasama dito yung Namabbalan Tree Park which is the only section of the forest under the government restoration project)

http://rdurmiendo.brinkster.net/cds/...le3.asp?ID=204

lloydbenitez

March 21st, 2011, 08:15 AM

Tuguegarao City's Development challenges:

1. Deforestation
2. Poor Air Quality
3. Unsystematic solid waste managament
4. Pollution of waterways
5. Drainage and Water disposal

http://rdurmiendo.brinkster.net/cds/...le3.asp?ID=204

CAGAYAN ON THE RISE

March 21st, 2011, 08:15 AM

Tuguegarao City's development challenges:

1. flooding and erosion
2. high day-time population(170, 000-195, 000 and population density of 10, 179 per square km)
3. Limited land area
4. Unimpressive public places and lack of city landmars (eto na siguro yung dahilan kung bkit tnayo ang bagong city hall)
5. Inefficient transport management (primarily due to roads)

http://rdurmiendo.brinkster.net/cds/...le3.asp?ID=204

maraming buildings pero lack of landmarks. dapat magpatayo pa ng maraming landmarks.
haha..

well siguro pagkatapos ng farm to market roads na project papasok naman na ang concreting of all barangay roads.

lloydbenitez

March 21st, 2011, 08:22 AM

Tuguegarao City's Development challenges:

1. Increasing demand for public services and facilities (gaya ng sbe, 195, 000 population daytime puts pressure on the government to meet their needs)
2. Fiscal Administration (Budget Surplus every year may tempt the government to invest in unproductive projects)
3. Lack of adequate facilities (sagot din toh sa question regarding sa cityhall natin, maliit yung dating cityhall for 567 gov't employees wala pa dun yung offices for Liga ng mga Barangay, Sanguniang Kabataan, Senior Citizens, etc.)
4. Lack of Political Will

http://rdurmiendo.brinkster.net/cds/...le3.asp?ID=204

lloydbenitez

March 21st, 2011, 08:25 AM

maraming buildings pero lack of landmarks. dapat magpatayo pa ng maraming landmarks.
haha..

well siguro pagkatapos ng farm to market roads na project papasok naman na ang concreting of all barangay roads.

kung buildings ang paguusapan talagang marame, 24 out of 49 barangays ba naman ang urban. yun nga lang konti lang talga ang landmarks. yung tipong manila cityhall, palsyo sa baguio.

lloydbenitez

March 21st, 2011, 08:35 AM

thread 8 na pala. congrats

lloydbenitez

March 21st, 2011, 08:36 AM

Ten Outstanding Youth Leaders of Tuguegarao City:

Mallillin, Mico Martin from Brgy. Pallua Norte: CNHS
Narag, Jadze Princeton from Brgy. Caggay: CNHS
Uberita, Allan from Brgy. Liano East: Linao NHS
De Leon, Loraine from Brgy. Atulayan Sur:CNHS
Guzman, Angelie Rose from Brgy.Atulayan Sur: CNHS
Arellano, Mark Angelo from Brgy. Bagay: CNHS
Formoso, Karylle Mae from Brgy. Cataggaman Nuevo: Cataggaman NHS
Buguina, Jeffrey from Brgy. Tagga: Cagayan State University
Cagurangan, Carl Bryan from Brgy. Annafunan West: University of Cagayan Valley
Cutaran, Jayson from Brgy. Annafunan West: University of Saint Louis

296619

March 21st, 2011, 09:08 AM

lloydbenitez

March 21st, 2011, 09:30 AM

@ Loyd... What year po ang CDS/report? Who made the report? What are the references used in the report...

If I can remember, nabasa ko na yan dati at parang matagal na yan as in early ,00's...

I think the better thing we can do is to evaluate how the city faired in achieving all its objectives...

Good day. the report was dated April 2007. the last days in the cityhall of mayor randy ting. The report was issued based on the guidelines provided by Asian Development bank. the report was based on the livability, bankability, competitiveness, and good governance, strategy formulation, project identification and formulation, capital investment planing.

with regard your last statement, Tuguegarao city in my opinion achieved its objectives. i just forgot the link but Tuguegarao city was labelled excellent in all significant area except for the Environment Area. time na ni sir delfin ting yun. ibig sbhin naachieve ng tuguegarao yung objectives nya maliban sa environmental area.

lloydbenitez

March 21st, 2011, 09:39 AM

kung titignan yung mga development challenges sa taas, madame na jan ang ngawan ng paraan ng city government.
Deforestation - Namabbalan Tree Park,
Fiscal Administration - using current available funds to construct another revenue generating investment like Mall of the Valley, Merry Time Zone, etc.
Lack of Adequate Facilities - tingin ko obvious na ngawan n yan ng way ngayon. isang example yung renovation ng TC people's general hospital
Unimpressive public places and lack of land marks - the new City hall and the Mall of the Valley, etc.
at iba pa.......................

yung mga projects regarding he environment lang ang hndi napagtutuunan ng pansin ng city government.

CAGAYAN ON THE RISE

March 21st, 2011, 09:45 AM

ilan percentage ba ang poverty ng tuguegarao.

pagkakaalam ko nasa 20% tama ba.

you are currently working in city hall di ba..

lloydbenitez

March 21st, 2011, 09:53 AM

ilan percentage ba ang poverty ng tuguegarao.

pagkakaalam ko nasa 20% tama ba.

you are currently working in city hall di ba..

ang poverty incidence according to report is 51%. ewan ko lang yung poverty rate.

lloydbenitez

March 21st, 2011, 10:01 AM

296619

March 21st, 2011, 10:06 AM

2007 report... Ok...
What about the study sir? Kelan ginawa? And mukhang may mga basis sa study na 2000 - 2004 data pa...

And, most of the recommendations came from the cityhall itself, i dont get it... Balikan ko mamaya...

Para siyang isang medium/ long term devt plan...

CAGAYAN ON THE RISE

March 21st, 2011, 10:09 AM

ang poverty incidence eh yun pala yung percentage ng families whose income are not adequate to support adequate standard of living. hindi ibig sbihin ng yung families eh living in extremely poor conditions.

matagal na din yan data na yan.

accdg may nabasa ako na poverty rate is ranging from 20-25% as of 2010

lloydbenitez

March 21st, 2011, 11:10 AM

siguro yung report eh also with respect to the previous reports. tinitignan din kung yung contents ng previous report ay nbbgyan din ng pansin.

mukang report nga ng cityhall base sa guidelines na inissue ng ADB

darylfiremover

March 22nd, 2011, 05:44 AM

hi guys!! been busy for the last few days!!! , mukhang nabaling sa city hall ng tuguegarao ang discussion ah!!! well for me, to sum all the statements from thread 7.. our city hall depicts the progress of our city... quezon city and makati city are doing well as one of the economic backbones of our country... their performances depicts how well they management their city halls...

really? the city hall depicts the progress of the city? so what you mean is that they should beautify the hall to show that tuguegarao is progressing rather doing their jobs as servants to the people? i beg to disagree but that is self serving.

lloydbenitez

March 22nd, 2011, 06:12 AM

TANDUAY First Five Concert featuring Kamikazee, Parokya ni Edgar, Wolfgang, Chicosci and Sandwich:

May 6 - Bayombong, Nueva Vizcaya
May 7 - Tuguegarao City, Cagayan

Tuguegarao was second to Cebu last year for the most number of individuals who attended the Tanduay concert.

freightrunner

March 22nd, 2011, 11:03 AM

freightrunner

March 22nd, 2011, 11:16 AM

PIA Press Release
Tuesday, March 22, 2011
DOT, PNP beef-up cops’ operational capability for tourism
by Thelma C. Bicarme

TUGUEGARAO City, March 21 (PIA)—The Department of Tourism Region 2 (DOT 2) and the Philippine National Police are set to conduct a three-day seminar for Tourist-Oriented Police for Community Order and Protection (TOPCOP) on March 23-25, 2011 at Crown Pavilion here with the main goal of equipping the PNP personnel with the necessary knowledge and skills in providing safety and security to the tourists during their deployment in key tourist destinations in the region.

Jane Taguba of the PNP said personnel to be detailed in the TOPCOP program will be recommended by the regional and provincial directors. The PNP Regional Office will be sending 11 policemen; Regional Public Safety Battalion, 2; Cagayan PPO, 18; Isabela, 16; Quirino, 5 and Batanes, 2.

The TOPCOP training will be conducted in 14 travel destinations as pilot areas such as Cebu, Camarines Sur, Metro Manila, Baguio City, Davao City, Boracay, Cagayan de Oro, Zambales, Bohol, Puerto Princesa City, Camiguin, Cagayan Valley, Negros Oriental and Ilocos Norte.

On the other hand, DOT director Blessida Diwa said the trained PNP security force will assist in maintaining peace and order within areas of high tourism traffic. The enhanced police visibility in these areas will help ensure the safety and security of both local and foreign tourists.

On the third day of the training, the tourist cops will also have a chance to visit the premier tourist destinations in the region.

The DOT director stressed that the TOPCOP program was conceptualized in order to establish a tourism security force in tourist destinations as stipulated in the RA 9593 or Tourism Act of 2009, section 100.

Further, Diwa said a memorandum of agreement (MOA) has been signed by Tourism Secretary Alberto Lim and PNP chief Director General Raul Bacalzo for the creation of special units within the PNP that shall ensure the safety and security of tourists in various travel destinations in the country. (PIA 2) Root (http://www.pia.gov.ph/?m=7&r=r02&id=23643)

antonbirakak

March 22nd, 2011, 01:40 PM

really? the city hall depicts the progress of the city? so what you mean is that they should beautify the hall to show that tuguegarao is progressing rather doing their jobs as servants to the people? i beg to disagree but that is self serving.

dont take it literally bro... thats correct it depicts, it reflects the people.. it reflects the city.. its the mirror of the city...

its not proper to say the city hall is the evidence of progress.. i think if we say evidence, there should be figures to show that our city is progressive..

just try to run you imagination kapatid kung ano ang ibig kong sabihin.. isa sa mga kaibigan natin na si 266919 ay nakuha ang ibig kong sabihin.. and i think napak simple naman para intindihin.. salamat..

darylfiremover

March 22nd, 2011, 01:58 PM

dont take it literally bro... thats correct it depicts, it reflects the people.. it reflects the city.. its the mirror of the city...

its not proper to say the city hall is the evidence of progress.. i think if we say evidence, there should be figures to show that our city is progressive..

just try to run you imagination kapatid kung ano ang ibig kong sabihin.. isa sa mga kaibigan natin na si 266919 ay nakuha ang ibig kong sabihin.. and i think napak simple naman para intindihin.. salamat..

no no no... i totally not agree with that bro, youre treating the city hall as a status symbol... kahit makeupin mo pa yan, paliguan, ipa-belo, gupitan o bihisan, hinding hindi mo makikita ang progreso diyan

darylfiremover

March 22nd, 2011, 02:04 PM

antonbirakak

March 22nd, 2011, 03:00 PM

never judge a book by its cover... the beautification of the city hall can be a cover, an illusion, a mask to what the real tuguegarao really looked like... it could never represent the city's progress/development... think about it, progress isnt only seen but rather it must also be felt- tasted and touched... as simple as that... bro!

maybe true maybe not bro.. we are all entitled to what statements we want to share.. but for me, its better to have such than to have none..

and i think the new city hall is better than the old one in centro.. and i think progress is seen, felt and touched by the people of tuguegarao city.. if you try to visit the city, you might see,feel the taste and touch the progress for sure.. compared before, tuguegarao is much different now a days.. i may not have the figures to explain my statements but by experiencing the SEE,FEEL-TASTE and TOUCH masasabi nating iba na ang tuguegarao.. :)thanks..

antonbirakak

March 22nd, 2011, 03:07 PM

no no no... i totally not agree with that bro, youre treating the city hall as a status symbol... kahit makeupin mo pa yan, paliguan, ipa-belo, gupitan o bihisan, hinding hindi mo makikita ang progreso diyan

i got your point there kapatid.. nakatira ka ba sa tuguegarao ngayon?? you can not appreciate our city unless you experience our city..

mrcarig

March 22nd, 2011, 08:16 PM

It looks like there is some censorship going on in this forum. Several postings, including some of mine, have disappeared. I don't think it was really necessary to do that. In my opinion, that was a cowardly act and very immature if it was intended to eliminate or hide opposing opinions. I will repost what I posted that was taken out.

REPOST:
When I ran across this forum, I found it to be an excellent place to learn about what is going on with my birthplace of Tuguegarao. However, we should all understand that this is a public forum. What you post here should be open to questions and public debate but doing so in a civil manner. When questions and public debate are not allowed, then what you end up with just propaganda.

mrcarig

March 22nd, 2011, 08:23 PM

maybe true maybe not bro.. we are all entitled to what statements we want to share.. but for me, its better to have such than to have none..

and i think the new city hall is better than the old one in centro.. and i think progress is seen, felt and touched by the people of tuguegarao city.. if you try to visit the city, you might see,feel the taste and touch the progress for sure.. compared before, tuguegarao is much different now a days.. i may not have the figures to explain my statements but by experiencing the SEE,FEEL-TASTE and TOUCH masasabi nating iba na ang tuguegarao.. :)thanks..

You are correct if you are purely looking at this from its aeshetics benefit. Whether or not it was a sound financial decision for the city to spend that much money is a totally different matter, don't you think?

mrcarig

March 22nd, 2011, 08:39 PM

mrcarig

March 22nd, 2011, 10:44 PM

It looks like some of you may have access to city records. Can you answer this?

How much money did the city borrow to build MOV and what were the assumptions made in paying back the loan? What are occupancy projections that were included in the project study to ensure the city will be able to pay back the loan?

lloydbenitez

March 23rd, 2011, 07:03 AM

For me personally, Tuguegarao still has a long way to becoming a premier city. For me, the awards the city has received does not mean anything. What matters is what I see and experience. When I visited two years ago, I had a chance to visit the Regional Center. It was raining on the day of our visit. My reaction to what I saw was nakakahiya ang Tuguegarao. Let me explain why I thought this way. I saw really nice government offices but these offices were difficult to reach because of the mud. The roads leading to these offices were unpaved. I wondered to myself, what if we had dignitaries from other countries visiting these offices? What would they think? Nakakahiya I said to myself.

This experience is why I am pre-occupied with the status of the roads in Carig and Leonarda. There may be others but these were the obvious ones that I saw. Talking about landmarks, a premier city will find a way to provide access to Chateau Leonor as an example.

By the way, I think I will save this reply just in case our censor does not like it and decides to delete it.

good day mr. carig. i would just like to inform you that the roads in the regional government center have already been worked on. The RGC at Brgy. Carig Sur has 4 lane roads divided into two by palm trees and street lights and other decorations. if only i have my camera i'll take a picture of it.

San po ba sa leonarda at carig yung tinutukoy nyong hndi pa sementado?

lloydbenitez

March 23rd, 2011, 07:13 AM

The construction of the city hall solved three problems:

1. lack of unimpressive landmarks and public places
2. inadequate facilities(the previous city hall can't accommodate 600 - 800 employees)
3. increasing demand for public services and facilities (with the volume of transaction the city hall enters with the citizens, the new city hall provides greater convenience for the latter)

296619

March 23rd, 2011, 07:21 AM

lloydbenitez

March 23rd, 2011, 07:25 AM

what I was told is that the roads inside the Regional Center are provincial roads. The funds to build the roads are coming from the DPWH and not the city of Tuguegarao. So, the Office of the Mayor cannot claim this as their improvement project. The roads outside the boundary of the Regional Center and those in Leonarda where Chateau Leonor is, are city roads. Improvement of these roads is the responsibility of the city government. So, why couldn't the city spend less on the new city hall and spend some of the money improving the roads here?

actually sir the roads that was constructed in the regional government center was a work of the regional development council and not the provincial and city government.

with regards the road going to Chateau Leonor, tingin ko nasa bottom siya ng list ng priorities ng city government. kasi yung number of residents dun kokonti and chateau it seems is the only commercial estab there. ibig sbhin, mababa pa ang traffic rate sa area na yun sir kaya hndi pa nila pnagtutuunan ng pansin. peru definitely darating din naman dun. madame pa kasi silang inuuna sir. tulad ng road going to and within the public cemetary, tingin ko mas mainam nga na yun talaga ang unahin nila sir. plus the completion of the aguinaldo road connecting cataggaman and caggay/carig. importante din po kasi yun sa pagdecongest ng traffic sa balzain.

darylfiremover

March 23rd, 2011, 08:03 AM

maybe true maybe not bro.. we are all entitled to what statements we want to share.. but for me, its better to have such than to have none..

and i think the new city hall is better than the old one in centro.. and i think progress is seen, felt and touched by the people of tuguegarao city.. if you try to visit the city, you might see,feel the taste and touch the progress for sure.. compared before, tuguegarao is much different now a days.. i may not have the figures to explain my statements but by experiencing the SEE,FEEL-TASTE and TOUCH masasabi nating iba na ang tuguegarao.. :)thanks..

then show the homeless the sight of progress. explain to the snatchers the meaning of progress. feed the unemployed the taste of progress. sense for the carnappers so that they can touch progress. call out the man who shot the mayor so that he could hear progress.

darylfiremover

March 23rd, 2011, 08:12 AM

now can your 280million peso city hall do that to progress? to the mods who deleted my posts, if you find these comments as unnecessary, youre not doing your job well...

296619

March 23rd, 2011, 09:06 AM

I told you.. personal attacks will be deleted...

darylfiremover

March 23rd, 2011, 09:12 AM

I told you.. personal attacks will be deleted...

my dear friend... who personally attacked who?

Ephesus29

March 23rd, 2011, 09:45 AM

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5300/5538866875_4984d00400_z.jpg
Two soldiers of the Philippine Navy watch the horizon. The alert of the previous day becomes calmness. In the Philippines approximately 45.000 persons were evacuated by fear of the disaster. In the night entire families were going down the mountains with lanterns, organizing small processions of lights along the twisted ways of Cagayan.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5173/5534240931_772587f2e9_z.jpg
The day after the alert for Tsunami, the activity in the Philippines was returning to the normal. The "cagayans" fishermen return to work in the evening.

Thanks to Macrodomo of flickr

I just love the colour, freightrunner, it is absolutely gorgeous. Almost like a painting. I am learning how to paint btw :) I thought it is a very productive and creative to do when I get bored. :) Although I enjoy an acassional round of skiing up in the slope. Just to get the adrenalin rush tamed. :lol: I am sure you do the same in the US, am I right?:)

Ephesus29

March 23rd, 2011, 09:57 AM

Nope... right to speak/share idea or freedom of speech is not absolute... Specially in this forum. The administrators have the rights to regulate this thread, a sort of police power when compared to the state...

They only delete when the post is a personal attack to another forumer... Yun nga lang nadamay yung ibang post, baka system limitation na yun...

I've noticed it too. Infact I am still looking for the chickens thrown at me:lol::lol: I wanted those roosters b.b qued, and with a bottle of nice Canadian icewine. :lol: I got too famished when I got back from Whistler after a round of ski with my buddies. Skiing is absolutely an adrenalin rush tamer. It is absolutely creative and enjoyable sport to get involved with when I get bored.:lol::lol:

lloydbenitez

March 23rd, 2011, 10:36 AM

one of my posts has just been deleted. why? i didn't say anything offensive against anyone here.

lloydbenitez

March 23rd, 2011, 10:53 AM

does any one know kung anu yung bagong tinatayo in front of Mariton sa Buntun?

freightrunner

March 23rd, 2011, 01:20 PM

I just love the colour, freightrunner, it is absolutely gorgeous. Almost like a painting. I am learning how to paint btw :) I thought it is a very productive and creative to do when I get bored. :) Although I enjoy an acassional round of skiing up in the slope. Just to get the adrenalin rush tamed. :lol: I am sure you do the same in the US, am I right?:)

Hehe. I have just renewed my interest in sketching my self. :)

CAGAYAN ON THE RISE

March 23rd, 2011, 02:12 PM

For me personally, Tuguegarao still has a long way to becoming a premier city. For me, the awards the city has received does not mean anything. What matters is what I see and experience. When I visited two years ago, I had a chance to visit the Regional Center. It was raining on the day of our visit. My reaction to what I saw was nakakahiya ang Tuguegarao. Let me explain why I thought this way. I saw really nice government offices but these offices were difficult to reach because of the mud. The roads leading to these offices were unpaved. I wondered to myself, what if we had dignitaries from other countries visiting these offices? What would they think? Nakakahiya I said to myself.

This experience is why I am pre-occupied with the status of the roads in Carig and Leonarda. There may be others but these were the obvious ones that I saw. Talking about landmarks, a premier city will find a way to provide access to Chateau Leonor as an example.

By the way, I think I will save this reply just in case our censor does not like it and decides to delete it.

wow.what a comment. two years ka na palang hindi umuuwi dito tapos ganyan kapa makapagasalita... ui. umuwi ka naman dito and see how the progree is being created in the city of tuguegarao and in our province.. and you have a guts to say that we doesn't deserve to become a premier city??? you speak as a whole at embarrassment ka para maging bahagi ka ng lugar na ito. hindi ako tuguegaraenos pero dahan-dahan lang sa pananalita maliit lang pondo ng bayan niyo.

antonbirakak

March 23rd, 2011, 02:37 PM

then show the homeless the sight of progress. explain to the snatchers the meaning of progress. feed the unemployed the taste of progress. sense for the carnappers so that they can touch progress. call out the man who shot the mayor so that he could hear progress.

good idea bro.... progress is a team effort... if we combine the effort of all snatchers and hired killers and carnappers well its a big income for the govt if they are tax properly!! hehehe.. joke lang ha.. :)

its a team effort... we can help for the progress of our country.. first, we have to have ourselves... your bro?? are you helping yourself?? if people specifically the filipinos help themselves and not to depend from others to feed their stomach... those who only depend on what his/her country can do to them are mainly considered garbage of society... small things can be considered progress for tuguegarao city.. i repeat SMALL THINGS!!!

small things... i can be a good example why tuguegarao is progressive.. i finished my college in a good and competitive school in tuguegarao.. ive learned well and im presently sharing my skills and knowledge that ive learned from my school in a govt agency here in the greater area of manila.. SEE!! small things can be considered progress for our city!! not only me!! PMAer's top achievers, politicians excelling in manila, board topnotchers etc... can we not consider those as progress?? problema kasi sa atin mga utak TALANGKA!!! hehehe..

kung walang mahirap, walang gagawa at walang magtatanim ng pagkain para sa atin.. isipin natin yan.. yung mga robbers, snatchers and corrupt are considered garbage of progress.. yes they can help, for themselves only but they can help for the progress of our country..

antonbirakak

March 23rd, 2011, 02:42 PM

he who attacks is garbage!! hehehe.. you know yourselves guys.. be good in sharing.. dispensa sa mga kaibigan natin.. those who are new in this forum just be good.. kung pangit ang breeding niyo pero kami maganda ang breeding!!! we share good not garbage good!!!
salamat po...

antonbirakak

March 23rd, 2011, 02:47 PM

For me personally, Tuguegarao still has a long way to becoming a premier city. For me, the awards the city has received does not mean anything. What matters is what I see and experience. When I visited two years ago, I had a chance to visit the Regional Center. It was raining on the day of our visit. My reaction to what I saw was nakakahiya ang Tuguegarao. Let me explain why I thought this way. I saw really nice government offices but these offices were difficult to reach because of the mud. The roads leading to these offices were unpaved. I wondered to myself, what if we had dignitaries from other countries visiting these offices? What would they think? Nakakahiya I said to myself.

This experience is why I am pre-occupied with the status of the roads in Carig and Leonarda. There may be others but these were the obvious ones that I saw. Talking about landmarks, a premier city will find a way to provide access to Chateau Leonor as an example.

By the way, I think I will save this reply just in case our censor does not like it and decides to delete it.

its been years that carig was declared regional center. its been years before that senator enrile initiated that bill to declare tuguegarao as regional center.. i hope i could get the chance to take some pics of the ongoing development.. i will definitely find a way to share to you some pics of the regional center para makita ng mga kababayan natin..

darylfiremover

March 23rd, 2011, 02:51 PM

good idea bro.... progress is a team effort... if we combine the effort of all snatchers and hired killers and carnappers well its a big income for the govt if they are tax properly!! hehehe.. joke lang ha.. :)

its a team effort... we can help for the progress of our country.. first, we have to have ourselves... your bro?? are you helping yourself?? if people specifically the filipinos help themselves and not to depend from others to feed their stomach... those who only depend on what his/her country can do to them are mainly considered garbage of society... small things can be considered progress for tuguegarao city.. i repeat SMALL THINGS!!!

small things... i can be a good example why tuguegarao is progressive.. i finished my college in a good and competitive school in tuguegarao.. ive learned well and im presently sharing my skills and knowledge that ive learned from my school in a govt agency here in the greater area of manila.. SEE!! small things can be considered progress for our city!! not only me!! PMAer's top achievers, politicians excelling in manila, board topnotchers etc... can we not consider those as progress?? problema kasi sa atin mga utak TALANGKA!!! hehehe..

kung walang mahirap, walang gagawa at walang magtatanim ng pagkain para sa atin.. isipin natin yan.. yung mga robbers, snatchers and corrupt are considered garbage of progress.. yes they can help, for themselves only but they can help for the progress of our country..

jeez! i dunno bro, you really dont get my point... favor, could you read my posts again?

darylfiremover

March 23rd, 2011, 02:59 PM

as ive said, and yes im sure that this post will be deleted again... you can never win an argument if you guys continue on using fallacies (anton this isnt you) wherever you are, whatever you do or whoever you are wont prove any of your claims... ahh... its nice to be arrogantly humble...

darylfiremover

March 23rd, 2011, 03:18 PM

and before i forget... why dont we practice a little bit of english grammar? like come on! its easy as 1 2 3!

darylfiremover

March 23rd, 2011, 03:23 PM

or maybe you guys were so busy with ADRENALINe pumping thingies that you dont understand the meaning of fallacy? try google.com, it helps...

296619

March 23rd, 2011, 03:29 PM

If I were to mediate between contending parties in this forum, daryl and Carig were able to raise very good points on budget spending and project prioritization . Ugac and loyd were able to raise facts on recent developments. Sir anthon was able to raise concern on uplifting of what's already there rather than, e.g. Razing the subject city hall... Anthon I think also raised good point on importance of self steem (i'm pertaining to a positive character po)... All of you are raising good points....

We should not forget the rule on debate a... Avoid comments in whatever form which tend to destroy the personality of a forumer. We should also avoid sweeping statements which tend to attack a group or a race...

Keep on sharing your great views...

darylfiremover

March 23rd, 2011, 03:46 PM

wow.what a comment. two years ka na palang hindi umuuwi dito tapos ganyan kapa makapagasalita... ui. umuwi ka naman dito and see how the progree is being created in the city of tuguegarao and in our province.. and you have a guts to say that we doesn't deserve to become a premier city??? you speak as a whole at embarrassment ka para maging bahagi ka ng lugar na ito. hindi ako tuguegaraenos pero dahan-dahan lang sa pananalita maliit lang pondo ng bayan niyo.

kaya nga umutang para makagawa ng 280 million peso worth na city hall e diba?

mrcarig

March 23rd, 2011, 03:52 PM

actually sir the roads that was constructed in the regional government center was a work of the regional development council and not the provincial and city government.

with regards the road going to Chateau Leonor, tingin ko nasa bottom siya ng list ng priorities ng city government. kasi yung number of residents dun kokonti and chateau it seems is the only commercial estab there. ibig sbhin, mababa pa ang traffic rate sa area na yun sir kaya hndi pa nila pnagtutuunan ng pansin. peru definitely darating din naman dun. madame pa kasi silang inuuna sir. tulad ng road going to and within the public cemetary, tingin ko mas mainam nga na yun talaga ang unahin nila sir. plus the completion of the aguinaldo road connecting cataggaman and caggay/carig. importante din po kasi yun sa pagdecongest ng traffic sa balzain.

Salamat sa explanation. buti naman inaasikaso na ang mga daan dun. sa google map mukhang parte lang ng Regional Center ang pinapagawa. tama ba? Yung road na maputik nuon ay yung papuntang Bureau of Lands. May magandang road na ba papunta dito?

Actually, marami nang nakatira dun sa leonarda. halos dulo na yung chateau leonar. Makita mo rin ito sa google map.

ang point ko tungkol sa mga roads, malaki ang tulong nyan sa progresso ng isang syudad. If you look at developed countries like Japan, USA, Canada, etc., hindi nila hinihintay na marami munang mga bahay bago sila magpagawa ng mga roads. they know what areas have potential for growth and they build the roads right away to accelarate the growth. They realize that more new homes means growth in jobs, tax revenue and many other things. Baligtad ang pagiisip ng Tuguegarao kung hinihintay nila mung dumami ang mga nakatira. Reactionary sila at hindi forward thinkers.

antonbirakak

March 23rd, 2011, 03:53 PM

and before i forget... why dont we practice a little bit of english grammar? like come on! its easy as 1 2 3!

pasensiya kana kapatid.. my english is not good hindi siguro ako kasing galing mo na lumaki ata sa isang english nation.... basta maawatan ok yun sa mga kapatid natin dito..

kung wrong grammar ako hindi mo sana naiintindihan ang mga pinagsasabi ko..na trigger ka ata sa wrong grammar ibig sabihin naiintindihan mo nga ang mga statements ko..

a little bit of a logic kapatid.. weve been good forumers here until you appear with an arrogant profile picture kapatid... ayusin mo yan para matuwa kami sayo.. nagpakilala ka nung una.. your introduction was little bit arrogant and with that, medyo hindi ata nagustuhan ng mga kababayan natin sa forum nato..

sorry kung medyo bulgar ako magsalita kapatid.. si 296619 and ephesus, there are good forumers pero medyo hindi ka ata type.. pasensiya kana...pasensya ka rin kung medyo mali ang grammar ko, masarap kasi mag type ng mala pacquiao ang utak at mabilis pa mag type!! hehehe

mrcarig

March 23rd, 2011, 04:02 PM

Nope... right to speak/share idea or freedom of speech is not absolute... Specially in this forum. The administrators have the rights to regulate this thread, a sort of police power when compared to the state...

They only delete when the post is a personal attack to another forumer... Yun nga lang nadamay yung ibang post, baka system limitation na yun...

I didn't run across anything that a grown up cannot handle. In addition, some of us became collateral damage so to speak and you are saying that we should just live with it. Why punish those who had nothing to do with the problem. Keep in mind it took time and thought to enter our posts. If the Administrator wants to execute its police power, then go ahead but be respectful of others too.

mrcarig

March 23rd, 2011, 04:06 PM

one of my posts has just been deleted. why? i didn't say anything offensive against anyone here.

hahaha. ikaw rin pala nadamay. at least i know you are not the one deleting them.

antonbirakak

March 23rd, 2011, 04:08 PM

he who attacks.. of course not me kapatid..

kalimutan na natin yan.. i just want to share lang without arrogance sympre.. erase

erase

erase

dispensiya mga kapatid..

mrcarig

March 23rd, 2011, 04:18 PM

wow.what a comment. two years ka na palang hindi umuuwi dito tapos ganyan kapa makapagasalita... ui. umuwi ka naman dito and see how the progree is being created in the city of tuguegarao and in our province.. and you have a guts to say that we doesn't deserve to become a premier city??? you speak as a whole at embarrassment ka para maging bahagi ka ng lugar na ito. hindi ako tuguegaraenos pero dahan-dahan lang sa pananalita maliit lang pondo ng bayan niyo.

ito ang example na personal attack. Administrator... dedeletin mo pa itong post ni Cagayan On the Rise.

Cagayan, tignan mo yung post ni lloydbenitez. Ang ayos ng explanation nya. All I can tell you is that what I posted is what I felt and no matter what you do, you cannot change it.

darylfiremover

March 23rd, 2011, 04:21 PM

ok so enough city hall talk... that will be my last... but isnt it nice to know our short comings? It could help us improve ourselves. Rather than praising the things that weve done, why dont we look back and check if what we did was right? Why dont we listen? What should we do to avoid mistakes? Errors? If no one talks, who will? If no one listens, who will? if everyone is so feeble minded, who will open his mind? maybe its time for some guys to know the real tuguegarao...

mrcarig

March 23rd, 2011, 04:24 PM

its been years that carig was declared regional center. its been years before that senator enrile initiated that bill to declare tuguegarao as regional center.. i hope i could get the chance to take some pics of the ongoing development.. i will definitely find a way to share to you some pics of the regional center para makita ng mga kababayan natin..

salamat. looking forward to it.

cagayan, this is another example of a grown up response. for the record, I never said I didn't see progress in tuguegarao. keep in mind that having a big and pretty city hall does not make a city a premier city.

mrcarig

March 23rd, 2011, 04:26 PM

antonbirakak

March 23rd, 2011, 04:33 PM

ito ang example na personal attack. Administrator... dedeletin mo pa itong post ni Cagayan On the Rise.

Cagayan, tignan mo yung post ni lloydbenitez. Ang ayos ng explanation nya. All I can tell is that what I posted is my opinion and, no matter what you do, you cannot change it.

siguro kapatid, cagayan on the rise didnt mean anything sa statement niya.. mahirap kasi kung nag uusap sa ganitong form of forum kung walang face to face conversation.. hindi natin nakikita yung actual emotion ng tao kung galit ba o offended..

tulad ko, im lil bit offended sa kababayan nating si darylfiremover, pati wrong spelling at wrong grammar ko daw nakikita niya, i must accept that im not good in english.. marami din sa atin ang mali mali ang grammar but as long as i understand the content ok na skin yun..di ko rin gusto ang profile picture niya, sorry kapatid ha.. but i have to cool myself down just to have a good forum for sharing..

antonbirakak

March 23rd, 2011, 04:41 PM

salamat. looking forward to it.

cagayan, this is another example of a grown up response. for the record, I never said I didn't see progress in tuguegarao. keep in mind that having a big and pretty city hall does not make a city a premier city.

your right kapatid.. i think tuguegarao city govt was just trying to build a legacy.. for instance, dubai,UAE.. nagpatayo sila ng burg dubai(kalifa) as the highest building structure in the world.. they wanted to build a legacy for dubai despite the recession they experiencing right now.. ginwa nilang open country ang UAE and now saudi arabia is trying to duplicate that..

trivia.. alam niyo bang bawal ang picture taking sa saudi at nung ginwang open city ang riyadh naglipana ang video cam at digicams.. kung dati ang mga pictures ng kamag anak ko ay sa workplace at kwarto lang nila ngayon pati mismo sa mga famous landmarks ng saudi ay meron na rin sila,i think thats a good example of building a legacy.salamat po..

antonbirakak

March 23rd, 2011, 04:49 PM

@dayfiremover.. kapatid siguro kaiba nga ang personality mo in which medyo iritable ako.. we dont know each other and i think we both have some good character to share.. just to reconcile everything from this forum, lets forget any mis understanding that we had from our past statements.. lets share good things or maybe negative things for us to know whats good to improve the image of our city..

lets us share competitive views di b...:)

freightrunner

March 23rd, 2011, 05:25 PM

hahaha. ikaw rin pala nadamay. at least i know you are not the one deleting them.

I have posts that were deleted too. It's alright. I think the admin deleted a whole page all at once kaya damay lahat tayo. Well it's easier to do it that way. Think of the thousands of comments that are posted every hour. Also this forum is not our personal blog so they have the right to regulate what is being said and written here. They created these forums for us to have a place to exchange ideas and we should be thankful for that . Is it too much for them to ask the members to maintain proper behaviour and attitude? Again I hope we all refrain from making statements that would directly or indirectly attack ones personal character, social and educational status and literacy. Yan lang po at salamat.

mrcarig

March 23rd, 2011, 06:58 PM

siguro kapatid, cagayan on the rise didnt mean anything sa statement niya.. mahirap kasi kung nag uusap sa ganitong form of forum kung walang face to face conversation.. hindi natin nakikita yung actual emotion ng tao kung galit ba o offended..

tulad ko, im lil bit offended sa kababayan nating si darylfiremover, pati wrong spelling at wrong grammar ko daw nakikita niya, i must accept that im not good in english.. marami din sa atin ang mali mali ang grammar but as long as i understand the content ok na skin yun..di ko rin gusto ang profile picture niya, sorry kapatid ha.. but i have to cool myself down just to have a good forum for sharing..

I agree. the substance and the idea behind the mesage is what counts. as long as we understand what others are saying, that's what counts.

mrcarig

March 23rd, 2011, 07:20 PM

I have posts that were deleted too. It's alright. I think the admin deleted a whole page all at once kaya damay lahat tayo. Well it's easier to do it that way. Think of the thousands of comments that are posted every hour. Also this forum is not our personal blog so they have the right to regulate what is being said and written here. They created these forums for us to have a place to exchange ideas and we should be thankful for that . Is it too much for them to ask the members to maintain proper behaviour and attitude? Again I hope we all refrain from making statements that would directly or indirectly attack ones personal character, social and educational status and literacy. Yan lang po at salamat.

That's OK as long the Administrator is balanced in the use of his so called power. In other words, apply the rules evenly without preference. Note that this authority can easily be abused. Administrators can also use this authority so silence those who do not agree with their view points. The bottom line is that those who revert to personal attacks just shows to all of us the level immaturity that they have.

freightrunner

March 23rd, 2011, 07:32 PM

That's OK as long the Administrator is balanced in the use of his so called power. In other words, apply the rules evenly without preference. Note that this authority can easily be abused. Administrators can also use this authority so silence those who do not agree with their view points. The bottom line is that those who revert to personal attacks just shows to all of us the level immaturity that they have.

I agree. :cheers:

darylfiremover

March 23rd, 2011, 11:57 PM

@anton the grammar thingie isnt for you either. if you could just read the caption ive posted before that comment. its up to you if you get offended by it. and my apologies if my tagalog is baluktot, i didnt grow up in a tagalog speaking community. im still learning my old folks language.

darylfiremover

March 24th, 2011, 12:36 AM

i predicted these kind of things to happen. ive been to a lot of forums and most of, ive had unending debates with trolls much worse than what we have here. the introduction thing was a warning for forumers of what they would expect of daryl. i am what i am and you can do nothing about it. this is me. i wont hide my true color.

darylfiremover

March 24th, 2011, 12:39 AM

ive seen a large poster depicting tuguegarao as the fire city... wouldnt that be great most especially to those students of la salette?

mrcarig

March 24th, 2011, 01:53 AM

kaya nga umutang para makagawa ng 280 million peso worth na city hall e diba?

Ang sabi ni Cagayan On the Rise, wala daw pondo ang bayan kaya hindi maasikaso yung mga daan. Mas maintindihan siguro kung ang tanong e kung walang pondo bakit nakaya nilang gumastos ng 280 million para sa isang city hall?

darylfiremover

March 24th, 2011, 02:13 AM

Ang sabi ni Cagayan On the Rise, wala daw pondo ang bayan kaya hindi maasikaso yung mga daan. Mas maintindihan siguro kung ang tanong e kung walang pondo bakit nakaya nilang gumastos ng 280 million para sa isang city hall?

this... (where can i find the grinning smiley?)

lloydbenitez

March 24th, 2011, 06:15 AM

Salamat sa explanation. buti naman inaasikaso na ang mga daan dun. sa google map mukhang parte lang ng Regional Center ang pinapagawa. tama ba? Yung road na maputik nuon ay yung papuntang Bureau of Lands. May magandang road na ba papunta dito?

Actually, marami nang nakatira dun sa leonarda. halos dulo na yung chateau leonar. Makita mo rin ito sa google map.

ang point ko tungkol sa mga roads, malaki ang tulong nyan sa progresso ng isang syudad. If you look at developed countries like Japan, USA, Canada, etc., hindi nila hinihintay na marami munang mga bahay bago sila magpagawa ng mga roads. they know what areas have potential for growth and they build the roads right away to accelarate the growth. They realize that more new homes means growth in jobs, tax revenue and many other things. Baligtad ang pagiisip ng Tuguegarao kung hinihintay nila mung dumami ang mga nakatira. Reactionary sila at hindi forward thinkers.

yung bureau of lands i believe eh nasa denr building na siya ngayon. tabe ng cityhall. ok na po yung daan dun sir. on going pa rin yung construction yung mga ibang roads sa mejo looban.

maliit lang po kasi ang pondo ng Tuguegarao sir. among the three cities of region 02, tuguegarao receives the smallest revenue allotment. kaya very critical ang pagseset ng priority projects. hndi naman po siguro sa hndi nila narercognize yung potential ng carig at leonarda and even pengue and caggay si, just that for now the funds are alloted for more important projects.

lloydbenitez

March 24th, 2011, 06:39 AM

Pancit for the soul
TURO-TURO By Claude Tayag (The Philippine Star) Updated March 24, 2011 12:00

To say there’s a panciteria in practically every corner in Tuguegarao City is a gross understatement. Locals can’t seem to have enough of batil patung, that much revered noodle dish every native hankers for. It’s like a day without sunshine if one hasn’t eaten his daily dosage of that feel-good comfort food. It has a cult following that could rival in number the devotees of our Lady of Piat, the patroness of Cagayan Valley. And in this city of some 10,000 tricycles, at any time of day, a good gauge of how well a joint is doing is measured by the number of tricycles parked in front, patronized by both the passengers and its drivers as well, the great leveler crossing all economic barriers.

It’s the welcoming food for the soul that a local craves for after a trip, long or short. In fact, he’d go straight to the nearest panciteria before heading home to Mama or even the wifey. A panciteria is also where family and the barkada spend a lot of time bonding together, becoming a regular meeting place to socialize. Of course, one would claim his personal favorite suki is better than the others, while other batil aficionados boast they can tell the maker of the noodles in a blindfold test due to its taste, texture and bounce feel. In the more than 300 registered panciterias (and countless more holes-in-the-wall) in the city, a regular serving is uniformly priced at P45, while a hefty super special at P60, a price ceiling consensually set like an unwritten code, but a super bargain by any standards nevertheless.

Batil patung gets its name from the manner it is cooked. The first word comes from the Spanish batir or to whisk or beat, while patung/patong from the Filipino “to place on top.” The favored meat cuts are carabeef and pork liver, which are first sautéed with onion in a large kawali, seasoned with dark soy sauce, pepper and MSG. It is then pushed to the backside with the use of two improvised ladles, the shape of a shallow cone. Some vegetables are added (like cabbage, carrots, string beans, tauge or mung bean sprouts) and after a few tossing, these are mixed with the cooked meat and then pushed back again. Copious amounts of broth (carabeef and pork bones) are ladled in, deglazing the pan, and more seasoning is added. The handmade fresh miki noodles are now introduced into the simmering broth and is allowed to wallow in it to absorb some of the liquid. Eggs are then broken and placed on top of the noodles, with the yolks remaining above while the white part drips down into the broth. This is beaten vigorously (hence batil) underneath and is ladled out into soup cups (think of Chinese egg drop soup). The noodles are then portioned into waiting wide shallow bowls burying a fork and spoon already set in the center, some of the meat/veggie mix placed on top, and finally topped further (patung) with the poached yolk. The final dish is served with the soup together with a saucer of chopped onions and kalamansi. Soy sauce and/or spiced vinegar is ceremoniously mixed into this, and the mixture is poured into the pancit. Some favor to take a spoonful of the soup after every mouthful of noodles, while others pour it over the noodles for added flavoring. Though variants are inevitable, they’d go only as far as adding red hotdog or crushed chicharon here and there, or whatever vegetables the cook can get his hands on. The noodles is al dente when served and best eaten still piping hot, but tends to be soggy when taken out and consumed at a later time, hence the popularity of dining in.

Meanwhile, further south in Cabagan town, Isabela, some 30 kms. away, is anoth-er noodle dish that fiercely rivals its northern counterpart in cult following and fame. Though both are basically the same handmade fresh noodles cooked in the same manner, the Cabagan noodles are thinner and differ in their recado or ingredients. The Cabagan version has lechon carajay (kawali), Ilocano igado (stewed pork liver), and hardboiled quail eggs as toppings. The noodles are also cooked al dente but served wallowing in a little puddle of broth it is cooked in. It is an orchestra of different flavors and textures playing a wonderful, harmonious music together: bouncy soft, slippery and wet noodles steeped in a salty savory goodness of a broth, crunchy hard lechon carajay, creamy tender strips of igado, with sour notes from kalamansi extract and vinegar, and an added layer of spice and crunch from the raw onion bits, and, the final coup de grace, crushed red chilies. One breaks into a sweat after every mouthful — “for every sweat a victory,” to paraphrase the great Apo ti amianan. The reputation of Pancit Cabagan, also the name of the fresh pasta, has traveled beyond its borders. An immigrant from mainland China, a Mr. Jangasia, who settled in this town in the early 1900s is credited to have started the noodle-making industry, famously branded as Pancit Cabagan in the whole Isabela and Cagayan Valley.

There’s a third pancit, though appearing less seldom nowadays, in the form of a noodle soup, which is traditionally served by Ibanag families as a special occasion dish called sinanta. It may seem to be just another mami to the uninitiated, or at best, similar to Cavite’s pancit langlang with the use of a combination of miki and sotanghon. But the similarities end in their physical appearance, with the sinanta having a broth made with chicken and mini clams called alá (tucmem in Ilocano), resulting in a rich, full-bodied and malinamnam soup. It is usually served with pinakufu, those finger-sized fried sticky rice cakes coated in caramelized sugar.

My special thanks go to the Caronan family of Tuguegarao City and their friends for hosting me in my lightning visit of just 16 hours last week. First off, my good friend Al Caronan (former Movement 8 member, materials expert and furniture manufacturer/exporter) for housing me in his spanking new, sleek and super neat bed and breakfast Balai B+B. His sister Gloria Caronan, who planned and orchestrated my itinerary, including a museum visit, kalesa ride around downtown and a spontaneous potluck dinner at Balai B+B, with some of their friends bringing such wonderful heirloom dishes at a moment’s notice. Arvin Caronan for chauffeuring me around the different panciterias. Batche and Myrna Caronan for fresh agar-agar salad, and their daughter for helping out in the preparation. Kuya Lidong Caronan for his homemade pickled kalabasa flower, pindang bavi (sundried salted pork), and zinagan (Ibanag’s version of dinuguan or blood stew). Diddi Dayag for guiding me around Don Domingo wet market, discovering along the way some wonderful finds like forest ants’ eggs buos, lasí or fresh water shrimps and birut or small fishes from the Pinakanawan River. Mang Domeng Nuguid for a saucy igado. Vice Mayor Danny Baccay for tsokolate, royal bibingka, kalderetang kambing, imbaligtad (seared beef loin flavored with bile), a dry igado, adobong pato (duck adobo) and papaitan (goat innards soup made bitter with its bile and mildly soured with kamias), all cooked by his staff Michael Avila. Manang Julia for the pickled native tomatoes from a recipe of Lola Illa Turingan. And last but not least, Dr. Iggy Pagalilauan for giving me free advice on how to keep my cholesterol level in check. “Just keep away from the Caronans,” he says in jest.

Perseus II

March 24th, 2011, 06:43 AM

lloydbenitez

March 24th, 2011, 06:44 AM

Your guide to panciteria heaven
(The Philippine Star) Updated March 24, 2011 12:00 AM

MANILA, Philippines - ECL Panciteria — This hole-in-the-wall has an open kitchen with a wood-fired stove, hardened dirt floor, bamboo latticed unscreened windows, and GI corrugated roofing (translation: could be very hot inside in spite of several electric fans). Its noodles are handmade on the premises, averaging five sacks of flour daily, enough to produce some 250 servings. One can actually watch how the pasta is made manually in several batches during the day, just behind the kitchen, within full view of the diners. After the flour is mixed with the water to form into dough, it is kneaded on a wooden table with a long pole ridden by a man on one end, with the other end pegged in the center on the wall in a pivotal manner. A man rides the pole and gallops from one end of the table to the other just like riding a horse. After every run on the table, it is folded like a thick canvas until the desired thickness is achieved. It is then cut into strips with a cleaver. From here, the fresh pasta is placed in a vat of boiling water with some oil in it and cooked lightly. Its super special order has ground carabeef and pork liver with mixed veggies, dark soy sauce, poached egg, topped with crushed chicharon, served with a cup egg drop soup and chopped onions and kalamansi. One has the option to choose between poached chicken egg or three hard-boiled quail eggs. Owned and operated by Diosdado Macabadbad, who honed his skills as a former cook in a different panciteria. ECL Panciteria is located on the National Hi-way, Carig, Tuguegarao City, Tel: (935) 130-8342.

Batil patung with crisp fried Chinese chorizo at Annafunan Panciteria
Annafunan Panciteria — Miki is wider than usual and cooked with only ground carabeef and pork liver, no veggies. One has the option to add Chinese chorizo for P15. It is cut into strips and fried to a crisp. Set in an extended garage, unscreened. From the church in Annafunan East, turn right on Aquino St. It’s the green house on the right side. It has no signage but everybody simply refers to it as Annafunan Panciteria.

E.C.P. Panciteria (aka Panciteria Lamud) — Once you reach barangay Cataggaman Nuevo on the diversion hi-way, turn right on Sage Grill. Ask around where Lamud Panciteria is as it is painfully hiding deep inside a barrio, passing a one-lane gravel alley off the main concrete road. Once you find it, you can park in front of a coral with several cows biding their time, quite literally, as this establishment claims and takes pride in using only beef, consuming one whole cow daily for its pancit sales alone. The dining hall is screened, which sits right next to the owner’s two-story house, with glazed tiles for its exterior walls. It’s a princely house set in an idyllic farm setting replete with crowing cocks and wooden log fence with several cow skulls with horns. Its pancit is cooked with cabbage and carrots, while prices vary on the serving size from P50 to P80. Address: 79 Gunnacao St., Catagamman Nuevo, Tuguegarrao City.

Cutting pasta swiftly with a cleaver
AM-PM Panciteria — Considering this is just a five-month-old joint at the time of our visit, it was filled to the rafters at merienda time. Its owner named it after her two daughters, Angeli Mae and Precious Mary. Sell the uncooked miki at P45/kilo, while its priciest noodle dish called todo (meaning “all the way”) at P60. Address: Rizal St., Bagumbayan. Tuguegarao City.

Josie’s Panciteria for Pancit Cabagan — It has pretty clean surrounding with tiled floor, screened windows, electric fans, and a glass encased food display with some six ready cooked dishes. A side order of lechon carajay or crisp pork belly cracklings at P120. Address: 13 National Hi-way, Purok 7, Anao, Cabagan, Isabela. Near Milagros Hospital. Tel: +63-919-250-9140.

Perseus II

March 24th, 2011, 06:45 AM

ang sarap pihado nyan :banana:

296619

March 24th, 2011, 07:10 AM

@ mr. Carig... Kung napansin mo, natatangal din ang mga "clean posts". Tulad ng sinabi ko baka system limitation yun or, tulad ng sinabi ni freight, hindi iniisa isa ng mods yan dahil sobrang dami ng posts so baka per page sila mgtangal not per post.

We cannot claim anything against the mods here because we do not own this at all. This is not publicly owned or a government run web page... They can shotdown this thread anytime. Its like going inside SM mall, hindi ka pwedeng tumangi na hindi ka iinspect ng guard because you are entering a private property. Icompare mo sa pulis, dun pwede kang tumangi magpainspect hangat walang search warrant.

Discretion na ng mods dito in determining what is offensive and what is not. So far wala namang mods dito na abusive.

About grammar thing, naku guilty din ako dyan... Though I know naman that my mistake is not as grave as those of .... And pardon me nlng po sa mga mistake na yun, because I sometimes do post here while driving or while doing something else. At any rate, I'm aware of those mistakes. Please do count the substance rather than the form.

Also, please pardon the way I put words in this forum, nasanay na kasi ako sa sentences ng batas, try niyo basahin how our laws are constructed, hindi mo pwedeng sabihing wrong grammar ang law dahil hindi kagad maintindihan, instead, they are designed to fit particular scenarios...

@daryl, you're asking to whom are you going to address you're concern?. Pwede rin sa politiko mismo. Of course you can use this page dahil may mga politicos naman ata dito. Pero may dilemma na kc dito e. Its already hard to know who are descedants of God or descendant of gods... And yung pag post, hindi maganda ang authoritative dahil lalong hindi ka pakikingan ng politicos dito sa Pinas. You should do it the other way around. Dapat you should show how sincere you are in promoting change by doing your part. After nun, dun you can throw words against them already. Pero kung wala ka pang nagagawa, baka kasi mapagkamalan kang namumulitika...
Hindi rin ok yung mga style na parang nakikipagaway, hindi siya healthy. Look at batch 2006 page, very destructive. Hindi nakakaenganyong magwork. Dapat marunong din tayong mg acknowledge ng accomplishments para maenganyo magwork...

Perseus II

March 24th, 2011, 07:27 AM

@ mr. Carig... Kung napansin mo, natatangal din ang mga "clean posts". Tulad ng sinabi ko baka system limitation yun or, tulad ng sinabi ni freight, hindi iniisa isa ng mods yan dahil sobrang dami ng posts so baka per page sila mgtangal not per post.

We cannot claim anything against the mods here because we do not own this at all. This is not publicly owned or a government run web page... They can shotdown this thread anytime. Its like going inside SM mall, hindi ka pwedeng tumangi na hindi ka iinspect ng guard because you are entering a private property. Icompare mo sa pulis, dun pwede kang tumangi magpainspect hangat walang search warrant.

Discretion na ng mods dito in determining what is offensive and what is not. So far wala namang mods dito na abusive. ...

Tama po! :) accomodating naman ang mga mods kahit 2 lang ang kilala ko. Kapag may problema ka dito sa SSC, patulong ka sa mga mods. They are more than willing to help specially sir Haks :)

About grammar thing, naku guilty din ako dyan... Though I know naman that my mistake is not as grave as those of .... And pardon me nlng po sa mga mistake na yun, because I sometimes do post here while driving or while doing something else. At any rate, I'm aware of those mistakes.

Also count me in. Minsan kasi dahil sa pagmamadali or lapses in mind dahil pagod or puyat , we sometimes commit grammatical slips.. :ohno:

Pero tama ka sir, not as grave as those I know :lol: :lol: :lol: yun bang kapag nabasa mo eh mahihilo ka :ohno:

Please do count the substance rather than the form.

Also, please pardon the way I put words in this forum, nasanay na kasi ako sa sentences ng batas, try niyo basahin how our laws are constructed, hindi mo pwedeng sabihing wrong grammar ang law dahil hindi kagad maintindihan, instead, they are designed to fit particular scenarios...

Lawyer na lawyer ka na talaga sir rod :banana:

darylfiremover

March 24th, 2011, 10:53 AM

thou shall not blink, not even a wink, if you dont wanna miss this moment. thou shall not blink and think what would you do if your mind gets stolen?

darylfiremover

March 24th, 2011, 10:57 AM

my dear forumers what i'm trying to say is: trash talk works best when your grammar is correct. now if you guys were 'touched' by my post then so be it. i cant blame you for that.

darylfiremover

March 24th, 2011, 11:44 AM

right... each one has a valid argument :)

I am so loving this thread now because it has become substantial and relevant :)

now i know, this thread was unsubstantial and irrelevant. (sigh...)

CAGAYAN ON THE RISE

March 24th, 2011, 12:51 PM

darylfiremover

March 24th, 2011, 12:58 PM

if you guys dont like my ways, i dont care. so be it. i can do nothing about what you think of me. haters gonna hate.

Buntun

March 24th, 2011, 01:05 PM

update naman kayo sa pics,,tnx :okay:

CAGAYAN ON THE RISE

March 24th, 2011, 01:17 PM

freightrunner

March 24th, 2011, 01:35 PM

Ayala eyes 2 Cagayan wind farms
by Alena Mae S. Flores

Ayala Corp., which has just gone into the renewable energy business, will participate in the new projects of NorthWind Power Development Corp. in Aparri and Pamplona towns in Cagayan province.

NorthWind chairman Ferdinand Dumlao told reporters the company was confident of putting up new projects with the recent partnership with the Ayala conglomerate.

Michigan Power Inc., a wholly-owned unit of Ayala, last week acquired a 50-percent stake in NorthWind for P512 million, plus an additional payment depending on certain performance indicators.

“Like any developer, we are awaiting the approval of the feed-in tariff. The development of our expansion projects hinges upon approval of a viable feed-in tariff, which we hope that the petition will be filed on or before March 31 by the National Renewable Energy Board with the endorsement of the Energy Department,” Dumlao said.

NorthWind’s units are building new projects. Northpoint Wind Power Corp. will develop a 40-megawatt wind project along the shoreline of Barangay Dodan, Aparri in Cagayan province.

Northpoint is expected to spend around $95 million for the Aparri wind project. The project consists of about 20 to 25 wind turbines that will provide power to electric cooperatives in Cagayan.

NorthEast Wind Systems Corp., meanwhile, will construct the 40-MW wind farm in Pamplona, Cagayan.

The Pamplona wind project may consist of 16 turbines with a capacity of 1.65 MW each. NorthEast, which plans to sell its electricity to the Luzon grid, expects the project to be operational on or before 2015.

Dumlao said the new projects faced “certain constraints,” depending on the feed-in tariff, or higher power rates applicable to renewable energy, and the upgrade of transmission facilities where the projects are located.

Feed-in tariff is the electricity charged to every renewable energy source and guarantees payment to renewable energy developers.

“For example for Cagayan, if we have a financial closing by September, two years from now or by 2013, the transmission facilities should be in place,” Dumlao said.

He said National Grid Corporation of the Philippines, which operates the country’s transmission highway, had not made a commitment to put up the transmission facilities.

“They should have a firm commitment because we have to deliver that power [to consumers]. And we need that for the banks,” Dumlao said.
Manila Standard (http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/insideBusiness.htm?f=2011/march/24/business3.isx&d=2011/march/24)

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Buntun

March 24th, 2011, 01:38 PM

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/197416_154740361252171_122865001106374_336025_2860700_n.jpg

^^update pics pics,,,,update naman kayo ng pics mga co-forumers dito sa thread

mrcarig

March 24th, 2011, 04:02 PM

yung bureau of lands i believe eh nasa denr building na siya ngayon. tabe ng cityhall. ok na po yung daan dun sir. on going pa rin yung construction yung mga ibang roads sa mejo looban.

maliit lang po kasi ang pondo ng Tuguegarao sir. among the three cities of region 02, tuguegarao receives the smallest revenue allotment. kaya very critical ang pagseset ng priority projects. hndi naman po siguro sa hndi nila narercognize yung potential ng carig at leonarda and even pengue and caggay si, just that for now the funds are alloted for more important projects.

maliit siguro ang revenue allotment dahil maliit din and revenue collection nya. so back to my point of building roads... Kung yang mga raw lands sa carig at leonarda at napatayuan ng mga bahay, ang tax revenue ng Tuguegarao ay tataas. Kung tumaas ang collection at tumaas din ang allotment e di mas maraming panggastos ngayon ang Tuguegarao. I wish someone can help me prove my point. Can someone find out how much the property tax is on 1 hectate raw land is in Carig and then also find out how much the tax is for 40 residential lots at 250 sq/m each (40 times 250 = 10,000 or 1 hectare)? If you calculate this, you will see the big difference and this is just on 1 hectare of property.

mrcarig

March 24th, 2011, 04:07 PM

i already checked the area of tuguegarao hall of justice, as mr carig says hindi pa sementado duon. sorry sa may enrile boulevard ako dumadaan papuntang capitol.

concrete roads na dun and nag iinstal na sila ng street lights.
take ng tuguegarao ag penablanca cagayan.
kulang talaga ang pondo ng tuguegarao. dahil simula noong 1980 mas mataas ang IRA ng penablanca cagayan hanggang noong 2005 doon lang naover

Sorry.. Ano ba nag IRA? Ano ba ang basis ng IRA at bakit mas mataas nuon ang Penablanca?

Mga information na ganito ang nakaintriga sa akin dahil may natututuhan ako. salamat.

freightrunner

March 24th, 2011, 04:29 PM

The question is mabilis po bang mag-move ang housing market sa Tuguegarao at present? What is the target market? The reality is maybe a high percentage of the target market for housing are people or families having relatives working abroad or wanting to retire back home. 3 yung mga bagong subdivisions diyan which are considered high end in the area. Does anybody know what percentage of these housings are sold out? Siguro hindi tinitingnan din ng local government and developers ang market potential bago nila i-open for development ang isang area which is only logical. What is really lacking in Tuguegarao are leisure facilities such as parks and resorts to be more competitive with other cities up north. Kung iniisip natin na maraming bibili ng bahay na local residents or from the surrounding towns I'm quite sure the percentage of this market is low considering that antecedent to this portion of the market is employment. Yup' maybe there is work there in Tuguegarao but how much money are they making to afford a 3 million peso home? There are a lot of factors to consider here before they could open a subdivision or even a mass housing project. If the area is not ready then it's not ready and it's better to use the money somewhere else for the moment. And for the record, I live in what you consider an industrial state here in the US and there still dirt roads out there. Parang hindi ka makapaniwala. Napansin ko rin na mas aggressive ang mga local government officials sa Ilocos provinces in inviting back their kailians to buy properties in their homelands. Yan ang kulang sa mga local officials natin sa Cagayan. The only official who is a regular visitor here where I'm at is Archbishop Talamayan. I mean even if they don't come here physically, tho local government officials should maintain correspondence with Filipino organizations here to promote their hometowns and encourage people abroad to come and invest their money home whether in the form of housings or small businesses.

freightrunner

March 24th, 2011, 04:59 PM

Sorry.. Ano ba nag IRA? Ano ba ang basis ng IRA at bakit mas mataas nuon ang Penablanca?

Mga information na ganito ang nakaintriga sa akin dahil may natututuhan ako. salamat.

IRA is Internal Revenue Allotment. This is the share of the local gov't units from the national revenue collections. This is based entirely on the area, population and income of the city, province or municipality. Kaya kung malawak ang area ng municipality mas malaki ang IRA niya. There is a formula for this that only experts can explain hehe. Not me.

296619

March 24th, 2011, 05:45 PM

Section 285 of the Local Govt Code yung IRA... May post ako dyan dati sa Bulacan thread... Hirap lng hanapin

mrcarig

March 24th, 2011, 05:47 PM

mrcarig

March 24th, 2011, 06:02 PM

296619

March 24th, 2011, 06:03 PM

mrcarig

March 24th, 2011, 06:05 PM

IRA is Internal Revenue Allotment. This is the share of the local gov't units from the national revenue collections. This is based entirely on the area, population and income of the city, province or municipality. Kaya kung malawak ang area ng municipality mas malaki ang IRA niya. There is a formula for this that only experts can explain hehe. Not me.

Sobra siguro complicated yung formula. I think I get the general idea. thanks for the explanation.

mrcarig

March 24th, 2011, 06:09 PM

mr carig... Tama ka dyan pagdating sa mga daan... Yan actually ang secret ng Santiago sa amin kung bakit naging centro ito kahit papaano... Kaya lagi kong pinupush ang paglalagay ng mga bagong daan dahil yan ang magiging tulay ng mga investors... Yan din ang turo ng economics profs ko and mga eco books...

tanungin mo yung prof mo kung ano ang preference nya to improve the local economy of Tuguegarao. Patayo ng mall or patayo ng mga daan? I think we both know what his answer will be.

Isa nga pa pala, nung bata ako mas malaki ang Tuguegarao kesa Santiago. Ngayon ba mas malaki na ang Santiago o mas malaki lang ng IRA?

freightrunner

March 24th, 2011, 06:43 PM

Just want to share a little piece of information I learned many years ago that shows why the building of roads is so important to the growth of a city or even a Nation. I learned about this when I was in college in one of the classes I took.

Prior to World War II, there were only a few major cities in the US (i.e. Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, etc). Cities like Minneapolis, Kansas City, Las Vegas and many others were only a small blip in the map. During WWII, the US started building the Interstate Highway system. The big reason for this project is to have landing strips for US warplanes just in case the war goes inside the US. What happened after the war was amazing. Because of the Interstate Highway System, a new commerce merged. People starting travelling more due to the interstate and motels and fast food places stared popping up along the highway so people will have a place to stay and eat while they are traveling from place to place. New cities emerged along these highways. Pretty soon cities like Minneapolis, Kansas City and Las Vegas have become major cities like Los Angeles and New York. We would not have fast food places like McDonalds, Kentucky Fried Chicken and many others if not for the Interstate Systems. Same goes for hotel chains like Holiday Inn, Best Western, etc. As you can see, the nation called the USA is what it is today because of the Interstate Highway System.

The situation is different in the Philippines. While it is true that opening new roads and highways would spur development in the rural areas, a large portion of the populace still would question why they are building a road on an area where there are no people around. Most people only think about what they need at the moment without considering the future. It is the social and immediate needs that the local government officials are trying to address at this time and the local officials don't seem to care about the future as long as what they are doing now would assure them of being reelected to office. The mentality there is just to let the future take care of itself, give us what we need today. In short politics still play a very important role in the local development and we all know what kind of politics we have in the Philippines. Of course we all want an expressway to come to the valley. But I think the government just don't have the money right now. I they they are more pre-occupied with providing more employment right now than anything else which I think is good. If the government becomes successful in this area then the rest will take care of itself. The buying power will increase which means more revenue and more projects.

296619

March 24th, 2011, 07:58 PM

tanungin mo yung prof mo kung ano ang preference nya to improve the local economy of Tuguegarao. Patayo ng mall or patayo ng mga daan? I think we both know what his answer will be.

Isa nga pa pala, nung bata ako mas malaki ang Tuguegarao kesa Santiago. Ngayon ba mas malaki na ang Santiago o mas malaki lang ng IRA?

In terms of population po, halos magkakasing dami na po sila ngayon, Ilagan, Tuguegarao, Santiago.. in terms of business, magkadikit po ang Tugue at Santiago ( may mga meron sa tugue na wala sa Santi and vice versa ) ... in terms of degree of development, hindi ko lang po alam...

Based on my observation, bumilis ang development sa Santiago since 2007 at dumami ang mga may kaya...

Sa IRA malaki po almost three times ata ang Santiago since independent city po kasi siya. Bawe naman ang Tugue sa pagiging regional center... Almost the same po ang bilis ng pag-angat nila in recent times...

Hindi po ako masyadong updated sa Tugue though dun lumaki ang relatives ko ... I witnessed kasi how my place grew from just a very small town to one of the leading commercial centers of region 2....^^

mrcarig

March 24th, 2011, 08:14 PM

The situation is different in the Philippines. While it is true that opening new roads and highways would spur development in the rural areas, a large portion of the populace still would question why they are building a road on an area where there are no people around. Most people only think about what they need at the moment without considering the future. It is the social and immediate needs that the local government officials are trying to address at this time and the local officials don't seem to care about the future as long as what they are doing now would assure them of being reelected to office. The mentality there is just to let the future take care of itself, give us what we need today. In short politics still play a very important role in the local development and we all know what kind of politics we have in the Philippines. Of course we all want an expressway to come to the valley. But I think the government just don't have the money right now. I they they are more pre-occupied with providing more employment right now than anything else which I think is good. If the government becomes successful in this area then the rest will take care of itself. The buying power will increase which means more revenue and more projects.

I'm not proposing building roads that will not be used. The story I told is an example of how building of roads can lead to growth. I'm talking about the lack of road network in a certain area that is currently inhibiting growth. If you visit the area in Tuguegarao I have been referring to (there maybe others), you will see what I mean. I would argue that there are lots of jobs and spending that get created when new homes are built. If you know that an area is in high demand and the only negative factor is the lack of road access, why not put up the access so that the area would grow faster?

The question to me is, is the city managing its funds wisely? Is building a mall giving you a bigger benefit than building roads in high demand areas? From strickly a financial sense, is the city really benefiting from the two new malls that were recently put up? The answer is, we don't know until we know how much revenue these malls are generating for the city compared to the cost of the project. Cities and even countries can go bankrupt if they don't manage their finances well. Have you heard of the crisis in Greece, Ireland and Portugal? By the way, all three countries have lots of pretty fancy buildings to look at.

mrcarig

March 24th, 2011, 09:40 PM

oo nga pala. gusto ko lang share ang last session ng capitol, gustong idevelop ng capitol ang caggay hanggang alimanao na maging commercial area ng regional center and nagusap daw sila ni mayor niyo, may urban planning na sila sa carig at pag nagkataon magiging conflict ang dalawa dahil sa carig h-way ang plano ng tuguegarao city na i develop and caggaya-alimanao naman ang capitol. sabi ni ting kung maghanap na lang sila ng ibang area to develop dahil ang ibang bayan ng cagayan ay hindi pa accessible ang poblacion area nila at mukhang hindi centro. sabi naman ni governor na itutuloy yun urban planning sa caggay at sa carig naman sa tuguegarao. big problem di ba?

try niyo pumunta sa capitol kasalukuyan ng ginagawa ng planning ng area ng caggay at carig sa my engineering office(provincial)

maganda sana kung idevelop nilang husto yang Regional Center area. Nung makita ko may potential siyang maging growth area dahil nandyan lahat ang mga importante na mga opisina. maganda sana kung may mga hotel, kainan at iba pa para sa mga taong hindi taga Tugueragao na may aasikasuhin dyan sa mga offices.

problema nga na hindi magtugma ang kanilang plano pero ganun talaga yan. City government vs Provincial Government. Mas maigi sana kung pareho ang kanilang plano dahil maka save siguro ng pondo.

teka, dyan lang sa enrile boulevard ang daming bakanteng lote. bakit walang nangyayari dyan?

mrcarig

March 24th, 2011, 09:48 PM

In terms of population po, halos magkakasing dami na po sila ngayon, Ilagan, Tuguegarao, Santiago.. in terms of business, magkadikit po ang Tugue at Santiago ( may mga meron sa tugue na wala sa Santi and vice versa ) ... in terms of degree of development, hindi ko lang po alam...

Based on my observation, bumilis ang development sa Santiago since 2007 at dumami ang mga may kaya...

Sa IRA malaki po almost three times ata ang Santiago since independent city po kasi siya. Bawe naman ang Tugue sa pagiging regional center... Almost the same po ang bilis ng pag-angat nila in recent times...

Hindi po ako masyadong updated sa Tugue though dun lumaki ang relatives ko ... I witnessed kasi how my place grew from just a very small town to one of the leading commercial centers of region 2....^^

kung mas malaki ang IRA ng Santiago di ibig sabihin nyan mas malaki ang pondo nila for more improvements. in that case, sa tingin ko mauunahan ng Santiago ang Tuguegarao. Having a Regional Center does not necessary mean growth in income which I found is part of the IRA calculation. Having a Regional Center also does not grow the population which is also a factor in the IRA.

296619

March 25th, 2011, 12:40 AM

CAGAYAN ON THE RISE

March 25th, 2011, 03:20 AM

I mean, sa fund for whatever project, bawi ang Tugue sa pagkakaroon ng government offices at pagdedevelop sa regional area sa Carig ba?... Yun nga lang when it comes to uplifting peoples lives, baka nga hindi direct or baka walang impact at all yung regional area dahil gagamitin lng ito para sa govt related acts. (bawal magnegosyo within the vicinity?)

Sa Santi naman, controlled ng city govt ang fund subject to certain limits as provided by law. May almost 500km concrete roads, water treatment, sanitary landfill, rescue team, firetrucks, more equipped policemen. Nagpapasueldo ng almost 1500 employees ang Santi cityhall, at malaki din daw naiaabot na tulong directly sa mga nangangailangan, health service, scholars, housing atbp...

Tugue naman, andyan ang mga big schools, govt offices, airport at syempre sikat dahil tinataguyod nito ang buong Cagayan...

sa tuguegarao naman ang gobyerno nila ay nakatuon sa pag-angat ng ekonomiya at nakasubaybay sila papano nila napapalago ang ekonomiya.

kumbaga 60% funds of tuguegarao ay dinedevelop nila para sa paglago ng ekonomiya.
mababa ang IRA ng tugue therefore nag-iisip sila ng ibang resources para mapalago ang total budget nila.

so kahit maliit ang IRA niya kung sa net asset naman ay bawi ayus na yun at ang pag-angat ng locally generated income nila para makapasok sa 250Million requirement para sa pagiging HUC.

CAGAYAN ON THE RISE

March 25th, 2011, 03:23 AM

I mean, sa fund for whatever project, bawi ang Tugue sa pagkakaroon ng government offices at pagdedevelop sa regional area sa Carig ba?... Yun nga lang when it comes to uplifting peoples lives, baka nga hindi direct or baka walang impact at all yung regional area dahil gagamitin lng ito para sa govt related acts. (bawal magnegosyo within the vicinity?)

Sa Santi naman, controlled ng city govt ang fund subject to certain limits as provided by law. May almost 500km concrete roads, water treatment, sanitary landfill, rescue team, firetrucks, more equipped policemen. Nagpapasueldo ng almost 1500 employees ang Santi cityhall, at malaki din daw naiaabot na tulong directly sa mga nangangailangan, health service, scholars, housing atbp...

Tugue naman, andyan ang mga big schools, govt offices, airport at syempre sikat dahil tinataguyod nito ang buong Cagayan...

santiago city kasi all around ang pagdevelop nila at malaki ang land area niyo kaya dapat lang talaga na masustentuhan ang buong area ng santiago city.

net-assets plus Ira= Multimillionaire ang santiago city.

CAGAYAN ON THE RISE

March 25th, 2011, 03:26 AM

CAGAYAN ON THE RISE

March 25th, 2011, 03:30 AM

maganda sana kung idevelop nilang husto yang Regional Center area. Nung makita ko may potential siyang maging growth area dahil nandyan lahat ang mga importante na mga opisina. maganda sana kung may mga hotel, kainan at iba pa para sa mga taong hindi taga Tugueragao na may aasikasuhin dyan sa mga offices.

problema nga na hindi magtugma ang kanilang plano pero ganun talaga yan. City government vs Provincial Government. Mas maigi sana kung pareho ang kanilang plano dahil maka save siguro ng pondo.

teka, dyan lang sa enrile boulevard ang daming bakanteng lote. bakit walang nangyayari dyan?

internal revenue allotment ang (IRA) bale noong 1980 hanggang 2005 penablanca ang dating pinakamalaki ng IRA. pero anong nangyrai hindi namn nila nadevelop ang lugar nila.
hindi po ba.

darylfiremover

March 25th, 2011, 05:08 AM

Here is something you guys wanna answer: who designed the Mall of the Valley?

lloydbenitez

March 25th, 2011, 06:30 AM

maliit siguro ang revenue allotment dahil maliit din and revenue collection nya. so back to my point of building roads... Kung yang mga raw lands sa carig at leonarda at napatayuan ng mga bahay, ang tax revenue ng Tuguegarao ay tataas. Kung tumaas ang collection at tumaas din ang allotment e di mas maraming panggastos ngayon ang Tuguegarao. I wish someone can help me prove my point. Can someone find out how much the property tax is on 1 hectate raw land is in Carig and then also find out how much the tax is for 40 residential lots at 250 sq/m each (40 times 250 = 10,000 or 1 hectare)? If you calculate this, you will see the big difference and this is just on 1 hectare of property.

sir, ang basis po ng revenue allotment ay hindi collections. kung collections po ang pinaguusapan, Tuguegarao has the highest among the three cities. kapag revenue allotment po ang pinaguusapan, ang basis po nun sir is population at land area. yun po sir. magkaiba po ang Locally Generated Income sa Internal Revenue Allotment. malinaw po ba sir?

lloydbenitez

March 25th, 2011, 06:38 AM

lloydbenitez

March 25th, 2011, 06:40 AM

lloydbenitez

March 25th, 2011, 06:46 AM

maganda sana kung idevelop nilang husto yang Regional Center area. Nung makita ko may potential siyang maging growth area dahil nandyan lahat ang mga importante na mga opisina. maganda sana kung may mga hotel, kainan at iba pa para sa mga taong hindi taga Tugueragao na may aasikasuhin dyan sa mga offices.

problema nga na hindi magtugma ang kanilang plano pero ganun talaga yan. City government vs Provincial Government. Mas maigi sana kung pareho ang kanilang plano dahil maka save siguro ng pondo.

teka, dyan lang sa enrile boulevard ang daming bakanteng lote. bakit walang nangyayari dyan?

sir hndi po talaga pwedeng tayuan ng commercial estab within the RGC(like yung mga bakanteng lote sa enrile boulevard) ang stipulation po kasi sa donation eh for regional government offices po

lloydbenitez

March 25th, 2011, 06:56 AM

Four auto-weather stations to be set up in Cagayan Valley
by Oliver T. Baccay

TUGUEGARAO CITY, March 24 (PIA) – As part of its disaster prevention and mitigation efforts, the Department of Science and Technology (DOST) region 2 is set to establish four automatic weather stations (AWS) in the northeastern seaboard of Cagayan and in Isabela province to improve the accuracy of predictions as to when monsoons, cyclones and other weather-related phenomena will hit the region.

Director Urdujah A. Tejada said DOST has linked with Norway government to finance the needed equipments to install weather stations, flood forecasting systems, rain gauges, and equipments to monitor volcanic eruptions, earthquakes and other kinds of natural calamities.

She said four municipalities were identified to be the area for installation of the new weather station radar to include Ilagan, Isabela, and Lallo, Claveria, Sanchez Mira of Cagayan province.

Tejada, who is the vice-chair for mitigation and prevention in the regional disaster risk reduction management council region 2 (RDRRMC-2) 10.3 million dollars was approved by the Philippine government and Norway to finance all needed equipment.

“Because region 2 is a typhoon belt region and we used to experience severe flooding, we need to install these equipments to prevent and mitigate the calamities’ effects,” Tejada said.

She further mentioned that they will also enhance the equipments and system in monitoring active faults and mapping of vulnerable areas in terms of tsunami and landslide.

The director also stated that prevention and mitigation of calamities take a long and continuing process. She admitted that they need to enhance and the systems for accurate weather forecasting.

She also mentioned that if possible every municipality has its own weather station to have the accurate forecasts of weather situations but the equipment, installation and maintenance are very expensive. (TCB/OTB-PIA 2)

lloydbenitez

March 25th, 2011, 07:28 AM

DOST inaugurates metrology laboratory
by Oliver T. Baccay

Tuguegarao City, March 24, (PIA) – With its thrust to provide timely and accurate data on calibrations, the Department of Science and Technology (DOST) region 2 has inaugurated yesterday its newly constructed metrology laboratory today, here.

Dr. Urdujah A. Tejada, regional director, said the laboratory aims to give services to vehicle trailer trucks, proving tanks, and calibrating buckets in so far as big volume calibration is concerned.

She explained that it will also give services in calibrating weighing scales utilized in public markets. Technical assistance through trainings to Local Government Units on calibration will be provided to ensure accurate weighing scales for the benefit of the public.

Undersecretary Carol M. Yorobe of DOST, who graced the occasion, proudly announced that the effort is anent to their programs and projects in preparation for the bid of the government to join the ‘One Asian Nation’.

Yorobe stated that the testing laboratory of DOST is envisioned to empower entrepreneurs to work for advancement of rural industrialization guided by principles of sustained development through an effective supply-chain management system which is focused to attain higher productivity and competitiveness globally.

“This effort is an add on to our contribution to the ‘One Asian Nation’ science and technology services with other countries,” Yorobe said.

The undersecretary commended the Department of Public Works and Highways, LGU Cagayan and other agencies who assisted the DOST in the construction of the new metrology laboratory. (TCB/OTB-PIA 2)

mrcarig

March 25th, 2011, 03:21 PM

sir, ang basis po ng revenue allotment ay hindi collections. kung collections po ang pinaguusapan, Tuguegarao has the highest among the three cities. kapag revenue allotment po ang pinaguusapan, ang basis po nun sir is population at land area. yun po sir. magkaiba po ang Locally Generated Income sa Internal Revenue Allotment. malinaw po ba sir?

as far as land area, hanggang saan ba ang sakop ng Tuguegarao? Hindi ba Carig kasama pa?

mrcarig

March 25th, 2011, 03:22 PM

mas malaki po ang land area ng santiago kaysa sa tuguegarao sir. plus they are an independent city. that's why their IRA is 500M lager that Tugue's

akala ko ba hindi lang land area ang basis ng IRA?

mrcarig

March 25th, 2011, 03:33 PM

sir hndi po talaga pwedeng tayuan ng commercial estab within the RGC(like yung mga bakanteng lote sa enrile boulevard) ang stipulation po kasi sa donation eh for regional government offices po

alam ko yung rectangular section na parte ng Regional Center. Hindi yun ang sinasabi ko. maraming pang bakanteng lote dyan sa Enrile Boulevard. Ang haba ng Enrile Boulevard. Yung sa harap ng City Hall, ang alam ko, private property lahat ang mga yan.

Buntun

March 25th, 2011, 03:38 PM

akala ko ba hindi lang land area ang basis ng IRA?

Land area at population po ang basis ng IRA plus yung constant na share ng huc or independent city/chartered city/municipality/province...
mas malaki rin ang share ng Independent city/huc sa IRA kesa sa chartered city lang pero hindi naman malaki ang agwat...
ang nakalagay kasi na land area dun ng santiago eh nasa 900+ sq km kumpara sa 144 sq km sa tugue kaya ganun kataas ang IRA nito...

mrcarig

March 25th, 2011, 03:39 PM

sana matapos na yang walang katapusang debate niyo na paulit ulit bago pa magtapos ang thread na ito...update na rin kayo sa mga developments dyan.this thread need more updates...update guys! :)

OT naman ito

Update ng mga projects lang ba itong thread na ito? siguro dapat palitan yung title dahil akala ko general discussion ito tungkol Tuguegarao at Cagayan...

mrcarig

March 25th, 2011, 03:45 PM

ang capitol gusto nilang idevelop ang caggay to alimanao portion para umangat ang pondo nila. at mas dadami ang proyekto nila kasi mas marami ng pondo. yun ang gusto nila at same sa city govt kaya look at the west portion of tuguegarao talong talo na ang regional center

sa pagkaintindi ko population at land area ang basis sa IRA allotment. kung ganoon, kahit marami ang proyekto, hindi lalaki ang IRA allotment kung hindi lumaki ang population at land area ng Tuguegarao. Tama ba?

freightrunner

March 25th, 2011, 05:43 PM

lloydbenitez

March 26th, 2011, 02:23 AM

akala ko ba hindi lang land area ang basis ng IRA?

hindi nga lang sir. nabanggit ko na nun na hndi lang yun ang basis. binanggit ko pa na independent city ang santiago. eto ang basis ng IRA.

1. Share Equivalent to Actual Cost of devolved national functions/city funded hospitals
2. share based on population
3. shared based on land area
4. equal sharing

http://www.dbm.gov.ph/lbm63.htm

sa lahat ng area na yan mas malaki ang share ng tuguegarao maliban sa land area. almost times 10 ang laki ng sa santiago. 67 M lang ang tugue tapos 565 M ang Santiago. 2010 figures pala yan. khit Cauayan mas malaki ang share based on land area with 116 M.

land area:
1. Tuguegarao - 113.95 km2 (44 sq mi)
2. Santiago (independent city) - 275.00 km2 (106.2 sq mi)
3. Cauayan - 336.40 km2 (129.9 sq mi)

kung titigna ang land area, malayong mas maliit ang Tugue

Population 2007
1. Tuguegarao - 129,539
2. Santiago - 126,244
3. Ilagan - 131,243

lloydbenitez

March 26th, 2011, 02:31 AM

alam ko yung rectangular section na parte ng Regional Center. Hindi yun ang sinasabi ko. maraming pang bakanteng lote dyan sa Enrile Boulevard. Ang haba ng Enrile Boulevard. Yung sa harap ng City Hall, ang alam ko, private property lahat ang mga yan.

hndi pa umaabot dun ang development sa Carig. nasa maharlika highwAy pa rin. kaya hndi pa npapagawaan ng daan jan. gaya ng sabe ko, as of now, nasa baba pa lang siya ng priorities ng city gov't kasi wala pang ganung economic activity. madame pa silang kailangang pagtuunan ng pansin. tulad nung dreamer bridge. inuna nila yun kasi nagiincrease ang level ng economic activity sa southern part ng tuguegarao.

lloydbenitez

March 26th, 2011, 02:32 AM

sa pagkaintindi ko population at land area ang basis sa IRA allotment. kung ganoon, kahit marami ang proyekto, hindi lalaki ang IRA allotment kung hindi lumaki ang population at land area ng Tuguegarao. Tama ba?

you got it.

lloydbenitez

March 26th, 2011, 02:37 AM

Aside from the local income and IRA pwede rin kumuha ang LGU ng funds para sa mga small projects sa PDAF or Priority Development Assistance Funds ng Congrerssman at Senator. Ito yung mga small projects like a basketball court sa barangay, multi-purpose hall barangay roads and the likes. Para makakuha ka nito dapat may gumawa ng ordinance ang local barangay to submitted to the municipal council for approval then to the Congressman for final approval. Mahirap ang process na ito kadalasan yun ding congressman ang mag-iidentify ng kung alin ang gusto niyang project. Hte yearly PDAF for a congressman is 70 million while that of a senatore is 200 million. That's why tam yung sabi ni ibang forumers na kung meron gustong project ang barangay ay sila na mismo ang lumapit sa municipal or sity council.

this is one of the reasons why some roads in barangays are yet to be concreted. i.e. san gabriel, leonarda. lack of initiative from the brgy. officials. nung ininterview si ting sa bombo radyo nun at tinanong siya tungkol sa mga daan, ang sbe hninhintay lang nila ang mga barangay officials. hndi daw tama na solohin nila ang projects ng barangay kasi may mga pondo din naman sila.

Buntun

March 26th, 2011, 04:12 PM

IRA 2010

Pop 2007 Land Area Share Based on Share Based on Appropriation
(sq km) Population Land Area 2010

Tuguegarao 129,539 144.80 119,885,141.48 67,046,168.07 314,135,729.00
Santiago 126,244 1,221.97 116,835,700.46 565,803,908.79 809,355,910.00
Cauayan 114,254 336.40 105,739,251.92 155,761,953.99 388,260,717.00

http://www.dbm.gov.ph/CY2010_IRA/ro2/ro2_pcm.pdf

bakit yan yung land area na ginamit sa stgo??bakit ganyan kalaki?

Ugac Norte

March 27th, 2011, 05:04 AM

May nabalitaan ako, sabi nila sa underground floor daw ng MOVa ilalagay ang Save More, and about dun sa Jollibee sa Phase 2 eh ndi raw pnayagan ni mayor dahil daw dun sa sanitation issue, instead McDo daw ang ilalagay dun.

296619

March 27th, 2011, 05:20 AM

siguro dahil indepedent. Yung charter niya naipasa after enactment of 1991 LGC.

lloydbenitez

March 28th, 2011, 02:46 AM

ang sbe din sa amen ni sir apeng(rafael ting) last october 2010, ang savemore sa ground floor daw ng MoVA Phase 2. wla naman siyang nabanggit tungkol sa jollibee. ang nabanggit niya is NESTLE sa 2nd floor ng phase 1 ktapat ng cafe racquel. yun ang sbe niya.

yah. hndi lahat ng jollibee may sanitation issue. ung sa fci lang naman ata ang nagkproblema. the tanza branch is doing very good.

CAGAYAN ON THE RISE

March 28th, 2011, 03:51 PM

anong mHABANG BUILDING NA PINAPATAYO Sa marithon.. nice to know. mas may potensyal talaga ang buntun kaysa carig.

lloydbenitez

April 1st, 2011, 05:51 AM

Feature: Ibanag, a Dying language?
by Purita S. Licas

TUGUEGARAO CITY, March 31 (PIA) - The language that used to be the dominant minority language in the Cagayan Valley Region is now being threatened and is on its way to extinction, according to a local study conducted.

Joseph Dayag, publications coordinator of the St. Paul University Philippines (SPUP) here, in his dissertation paper for a doctoral degree, cited language preference among the Ybanags themselves (speakers of the Ibanag language)as the cause of the near death of the language.

“If nothing is done, the language’s death will be inevitable and the next generations will never know about its existence,” Dayag said.

In his study “Language Loyalty Among the Ibanags of Cagayan: Basis for a Proposed Ibanag Language Development Program” conducted in the seven Ibanag-speaking towns of Cagayan, Dayag said similar situation was experienced just before the Irraya, another minority language in the province, died out.

The Ibanag and the Irraya are among the 30 languages and dialects in the province before the Spaniards came to Cagayan in the 16th century.

Espousing that language is an inherent part of any culture, Dayag said linguists around the world agree that minority languages are threatened by language extinction or death in the future, and if no intervention is introduced, the extinction of minority cultures is likely to happen in the next decade.

The Living Tongues Institute estimates that between one-half to two-thirds of the world’s languages are endangered which translates to the death of one language every 14 days.

Researchers earlier noted that Filipinos from the countryside appear to abandon their indigenous languages as they assimilate both the dominant languages and the culture they are exposed to.

In Tuguegarao City alone, the so-called Premier Ibanag City, the number of Ibanag speakers continue to dwindle as children and their Ibanag parents have assimilated the national language, Filipino.

“If the people maintain and preserve their culture by using their mother tongue, they maintain and preserve their culture as they pass this successfully to the next generation,” said a noted local journalist, Estanislao Caldez in his 100 Essays of Walsi.

The study of Dayag likewise revealed that among the Ibanag adults, the language is now seldom used in the workplace and at home, and that only a few send their messages through text in the language.

Majority of those interviewed suggested that the education department revive the use of Ibanag textbooks in the grades for the Ibanag children to appreciate their own tongue.

“It’s really a dying language. Only last December, I sent text messages to my friends and relatives to greet them for the season and they almost cried when they read my message in Ibanag,” Engr. Reynaldo Lingan of nearby Solana town said.

While English and Filipino were made the official media of communication in the Philippine academic landscape, indigenous languages especially those spoken by fewer than one million speakers, are facing the threat of extinction or death.

Ibanag, Dayag insisted, is one of those indigenous languages being slowly displaced by English and other dominant Philippine languages like Filipino and Ilocano.

The study added that as a result, gone are the days when pupils were taught in Ibanag, encouraged to speak and write in Ibanag, and persuaded to peruse over Ibanag reading materials.

“Gone now are the days when primary books depict the distinctive scenery, culture and tradition of Cagayan, especially those of the Ibanag folk,” Dayag said of his research findings.

The observation on the rarity of Ibanag use is also felt among the local officials of Tuguegarao City.

Vice Mayor Danilo Baccay said “the Ibanag language is getting lost in the cultural milieu of the city so that we need to restore it as our dominant language, preserve it so that we can be proud of it again”.

Buntun

April 1st, 2011, 07:07 AM

@lloyd yung pinakamadaling paraan ng pagshare ng pics is right click mo yung image tapos copy image url/copy image location then ipaste mo na sa insert image

hugodiekonig

April 1st, 2011, 07:27 AM

Magandang hapon Tuguegarao at Cagayan! Pa-hanap sana ako sa inyo ng link ng IRA 2010 sa ilocos region esp. La Union. paki-post sana sa La Union thread. salamat!

nabasa ko rin yung mga posts ng troll dito dati. ang sarap niyang ilunod sa Cagayan River hehehehe

freightrunner

April 1st, 2011, 02:47 PM

Magandang gabi Cagayan and Tugue. Sana maging maganda ang magigisnan nating mga umaga simula ngayon.

antonbirakak

April 9th, 2011, 01:37 PM

hay salamat bumalik na ang thread ng tuguegarao!!

time to share good things again mga kabayan!!!

antonbirakak

April 9th, 2011, 01:40 PM

hofufian

April 9th, 2011, 01:41 PM

Maraming salamat at bumalik na rin ang Tuguegarao City at Cagayan thread. Dios ti agngina kadakayo amin. Dios mabbalo nikamu ngamin!!!

296619

April 9th, 2011, 01:48 PM

Welcome Back Tugue and Cagayan thread! ^^

freightrunner

April 9th, 2011, 02:45 PM

Welcome back everyone. Salamat sa mga admins and mods for cleaning this thread.

lloydbenitez

April 9th, 2011, 03:45 PM

oh yeah! the thread is back! oh yeah!

b_two

April 9th, 2011, 06:57 PM

nice to see this thread is now available. :banana::banana::banana::cheers::cheers::cheers:

lloydbenitez

April 9th, 2011, 07:06 PM

just passed by the regional government center, the newly installed street lights look good. ang liwanag!

lloydbenitez

April 9th, 2011, 07:10 PM

ongoing na enrollment sa bagong Central Colleges of the North sa Brgy. Leonarda! The construction of the building is not yet complete though!

antonbirakak

April 10th, 2011, 02:49 AM

on going development of regional center
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5261/5604719318_bf3392884e_b.jpg
from left; the BIR and GSIS buildings..
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5183/5604134645_79db49c729_b.jpg
tuguegarao city hall
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4102/5604717230_d91b038e1e_b.jpg
DENR region II area
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5143/5604716214_c754f0f05c_b.jpg
intersection along GSIS going to NBI region II
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5023/5604131395_0387dd9e99_b.jpg
entrance of regional center along cagayan valley medical center

lloydbenitez

April 10th, 2011, 04:06 AM

lloydbenitez

April 10th, 2011, 04:08 AM

City government honors women
by Suzette Adduru

Tuguegarao City, April 4 (PIA) – To give meaning to the women’s roles and rights as integral members of the society, the city government of Tuguegarao recently feted hundreds of women workers in government and private sectors to a day of fun at a celebration spearheaded by councilors Perla Tumaliaun and Mimi Dayag.

City Councilor Perla C. Tumaliuan, chairman on Committee on Women and Family Welfare, said the event serves as a commemoration of the struggles of the women sector to ensure they are equal opportunity in society.

Dubbed “Aggao Na Paggayaya Ta Babbay Na Ciudad Na Tuguegarao,” ( a day of happiness for the women of Tuguegarao City), the celebration was highlighted with various activities such as fun run, talent show, lecture demonstrations on beauty tips, lecture on the rights of women, raffle draws, among others.

“We deserve to have a day of fun, health, wellness and beauty, games, raffle draws, talent shows and make over,” Tumaliuan said.

In the event, Mayor Delfin Telan Ting and Vice Mayor Danilo Baccay took turns in recognizing the important roles of women in giving inspiration to men to pursue their dreams and stressing that behind men’s success are women.

According to Baccay, women today should assert themselves to overcome the cultural prejudices that tag them as inferior and ineffective agents of change.

The women were likewise acknowledged for their job well done as wives, mothers, sisters, daughters , career women. (PIA 2)

lloydbenitez

April 10th, 2011, 04:16 AM

hndi pa pala tinutuloy ng provincial gov't yung renovation ng cagayan sports complex. yung eco park at grandstand lang ang nkita kong may kokonting progress. hndi pa rubberized yung oval, khit isang metro wala pang nasimulan. hope the gov't gets the job done in time for aggao.

lloydbenitez

April 10th, 2011, 04:34 AM

UNIVERSITY OF SAINT LOUIS LEONARDA CAMPUS

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/167313_185236094844583_170181069683419_487121_3567630_n.jpg

CAGAYAN ON THE RISE

April 10th, 2011, 08:07 AM

nag coconduct din pala ang City Health Office ng counting ng population. nagtataka kasi ako sa data nila versus NSO. sa data nilang lumabas sa 2007 ang total count ng population njila ay lumalabas na ang tuguegarao ay may populasyon na 149,061 tugma sa DILG data. at naglabas na sila ng counting sa 2010 na ang tuguegarao ay may populasyon ng 169,239.. and nakausap ko pa si dr. james guzman (city health officer)at sabi niya per barangay dapat matutukan ng mga midwife ang kabuuan populasyon ng tuguegarao at dahil ang data ay ipapasa sa Department of Health upang malaman kung nag succeed sila sa kanilang family planning program at sinabi din niyang na mukhang hindi na makukuha ng tuguegarao ngayon ang best in implementing the family planning program in the region dahil mataas ang lumabas ngayon sa data ng 2010. try to visit the city health office dun sa bago nilang building andun ang populasyon ng tuguegarao nakadisplay

CAGAYAN ON THE RISE

April 10th, 2011, 08:10 AM

CAGAYAN ON THE RISE

April 10th, 2011, 08:12 AM

2010 pop of tugue as of 2010 base sa isang kakilala ko dun.

133,021....

naungusan na tayo ng cauayan, santiago at ilagan..

santiago city ang nangunguna na may opulasyong 145,237.
ilagan na may 144,137..
at cauayan na may 135,677..

Ugac Norte

April 10th, 2011, 11:24 AM

buti naman wla na ung mga nanggugulo d2...hehe

Ugac Norte

April 10th, 2011, 11:42 AM

nailapit ko na din kay vice governor kung bakit ang pop ng dilg city health office ay tugma at magkaiba sa NSO.. sinabi din niyang na labas na ang government dyan. hindi naman pwedeng imbestigahan pa natin yan dahil kung nagkataon tyak na may mapapahiya at may lalabas na pagkukulang ang isang ahensya. at wala na kaming pakialam sa data nila versus pop basta pasado na tayo sa 4th district at pwede ng isulong ng 3 nating kongresista.(Ilocano) translate ko lang sa tagalog.

2007 popcen plang po kasi ang latest na kinonduct ng NSO na census, may tinatawag kasi na every censual year lang magcoconduct ng census sa population na tinatawag ang nso which is every after 10 years tapos may mid censual year after 5 years pero kelangan pa ng approval ng president kung may pondo. nasa batas po kasi yan kea wag ng umangal kung bakit ganun ang systema...ung pop. na meron ang dilg at city health eh base sa ginawa o base sa records nila un at present...magkaiba tlaga sa datos na meron ang nso ngaun kasi noong 2007 pa un.

Ugac Norte

April 10th, 2011, 11:47 AM

@chris: 2010 na ngaun ung latest pero dpa tapos ung process, so by 2020 magkakaroon ulit ng census ang nso pero pede ring magconduct ng census bet. 2015-2018 kung ma-approved ng president pero ung 2020 eh sure tlaga un sa ayaw at sa gs2 ng president kasi un ang nasa batas na every after 10 years NSO shall conduct a CPH or PopCen.

CAGAYAN ON THE RISE

April 10th, 2011, 02:19 PM

2007 popcen plang po kasi ang latest na kinonduct ng NSO na census, may tinatawag kasi na every censual year lang magcoconduct ng census sa population na tinatawag ang nso which is every after 10 years tapos may mid censual year after 5 years pero kelangan pa ng approval ng president kung may pondo. nasa batas po kasi yan kea wag ng umangal kung bakit ganun ang systema...ung pop. na meron ang dilg at city health eh base sa ginawa o base sa records nila un at present...magkaiba tlaga sa datos na meron ang nso ngaun kasi noong 2007 pa un.

ang point ko agkaiba ng data. try to inform guys the data of DILG and CITY health office na magkatugma versus nso na lumalabas na 127k vs 149k

ibig sabihin na hindi pa 70 percent accurate sa pagcensus ang NSO.malay natin may nanghuhula nalang. o hindi lahat ng bahay na count or napuntahan.ang lay ng deperensya sa 2007.

CAGAYAN ON THE RISE

April 11th, 2011, 04:31 AM