http://www.fkp.com.au/images/212.jpg
Piling has started at 212 on Margaret site.

The crane towers should be going up soon so look forward to that. It's iteresting to note that next door to this, River city is also under construction. This area is going to be so dence in the near future.

Jayt

yeah i agree. there on such small blocks as well

whats happing with casino and festival towers ?

On the Devine website I dont know about the start date for Casino Tower but the completion is supposed to be August 2004.
Festival Towers is supposed to start marketing "late 2002" and 120 Charlotte is starting marketing in "late 2003".

120 charelotte street is the proposed new tallest isnt it?

No, there has been no info about it yet.

As for Casino Towers, should start next month.

And I know a lot of people don't like the design for 212 on Margaret, but IMO, I really like the simplicity of it. Just wish we had some accurate height info for it, I estimated it for about 110m.

I've just been walking around the city and the noise of the piling work being done is echoing all around. You can even here it from Kangaroo Pt.

JayT

I might go and take some photos today.

whats the weather like over there today?
its beach weather here!
summer here we come!

yeah its a bit overcast.. im so pissed i was gonna go to livid today as well but i got sick..
havent been to the city for a while.. havent been to the riverside area for ages. should go have a look soon

i really like the look of this one. u guys r lucky wif all the development going on. we have practically nothin! (yet...)

mike

on the possitive side the gateway project and burwood project start construction next year what will bring 10000 people into the inner city over the next 7-10 years

yeh i spose, but do we really hav to wait that looooong! :D ;)

mike

Brisbane seems to be going ballistic. I spoke to a construction guy there recently who thought that there's real long-term development potential because of the huge population growth from the gold coast corridor upwards. He said that Brissy will be the CBD for all that growth (rather than necessarily Sydney). An obvious point I suppose.

but one thing we have to remember is that brisbane is running out of development sites in the city

There is a lot of low rise buildings that can be demolished, but eventually, height limits on suburban hubs will have to be lifted.

what KP height limits ?

Originally posted by chrisaus
but one thing we have to remember is that brisbane is running out of development sites in the city

It is running out of "empty" development sites yes, but there are plenty of older buildings ripe for redevelopment at BrizzyChris said. Just a couple of weeks ago, a developer finished amalgamating a parcel of about 3-4 buildings opposite Aurora. In 5-10 years, that could very well be a new tallest for the city, but at the moment it has 10-15 storey 70's and 80's office buildings. Also, I don't think all the towers proposed in the CBD will go ahead. Particularly some sites like the one beside 212, which has a tentative proposal for 150-200 units on a site that can support 3 times as many apartments or a huge mixed use building.

The 220 Margaret proposal is quite bizarre, as you said, only using about a 1/3 of the potential for the site.

As for Kangaroo Point, I think height limits are 10 stories like everywhere else, but a lot of exceptions seem to be given to this suburb. For instance, the U/C Dundrenan is 12 stories, Riyala is 12 stories, 11 Thorn St is 11 stories, and the U/C Stage 2 of the Docks is 12 stories, so you never know with KP.

I designed the 1 Holman Street project U/C at the KP peninsula. Near the storey bridge, there is a varying height limit to protect views to and from the storey bridge........it is worked out by drawing a line from the highway level to the other side of the river, so the closer you get to the bridge the higher you can build, but close to the river you can only build 5-6 storeys. This only applies to the peninsula.

The rest of KP has height limits measured in metres, not storeys. With Riyala, they got around the height limit by measuring the height from the street, which is 1-2 storeys above the riverfront.....hence 12 storeys

As for 220 Margaret, nothing has been officially released yet, so plans are still subject to change........same with 120 Charlotte

Chris, what is 11 Thorn St, I only know about #19 Thorn by TDD under construction..

Now this is a really big site. It goes right around the parking lot.


I have more but this one will do :)


http://members.optushome.com.au/netsy/images/212.jpg

Not sure what the last photo is doing in the 212 on Margaret thread since it is actually River City - the current Devine CBD building under construction!

LOL.....maybe that is what 212 will look like in 3/4 months:D

looks like a beautiful sleek little tower

from all the construction pics i have seen the finantial district looks dead. from what brisbaners say it sounds like every street of the city is pumping 24/7, but i guess the pics tell the story

The picture above which is River City is actually backs on to the 212 site. It is also neighbors with River Park Central, Metropole and Felix. This area will be a sea of cranes in a few months.

jt

the CBD is not exactly "pumping 24/7" but it is getting better.....all these residential projects are going to bring much more life into the city however

Chrisaus, who actually said that the CBD pumps 24/7? Or who made it sound like that? I don't recall anyone making it sound like that.

once the area gets dense though you might get residents complaining about pubs/club noise
when i stayed at the hotel the pub across the road i could here from me hotel, so hopefully the council don't block future club/pub dev or limited there operation hours

Originally posted by chrisaus
once the area gets dense though you might get residents complaining about pubs/club noise
when i stayed at the hotel the pub across the road i could here from me hotel, so hopefully the council don't block future club/pub dev or limited there operation hours

funny you should say that because that is exactly what has been going on in Fortitude Valley for the last couple of years, and there has been massive uproar that apartments could damage Brizzy's music scene

yeah i cant wait to get a picture of the area when all those buldings are going up, it will look awsome.. anyway my opinion on the valley is if you were stupid enought to move there then you should not complain..

-

Originally posted by brissyThomas
Chris, what is 11 Thorn St, I only know about #19 Thorn by TDD under construction..
Sorry, I meant 19 Thorn. I just couldn't remember the number, so took a guess.

Been over 3 months since we heard about this tall freak!

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Not much to report yet. Still at excavation, siteworks, foundation stage.

A crane has also gone up at the 212 site, It should start rising pretty soon.

jt

I got the official height of this sucker today from FKP architects- i thought it would be about 100m, i wasnt far off!
here are the stats-
height to roof-96m
height to plant-101m
height to spire-115m
add 4m for height above sea level.

http://www.fkp.com.au/images/212.jpg



Seeing that the spire is architectural i suppose 115m is the height.
and 101m to structural!
i told him about our forum and that we have a thread on 212Marg progressive construction, he seemed very interested!
cheers

heres a list of the tallest currently UC in brissy!

1. Riparian Plaza 200 m /53 2004
2. Felix Tower 131 m /40 2003
3. Casino Towers 129 m /40 2004
4. River City Apartments 124 m /39 2003
5. Metropole Tower 120 m /39 2004
6. 212 on Margaret 115 /33 2003
7. Brisbane Magistrates Court 78 m /12 2004

nice tower!
:D

Thanks Richard, I've been waiting to see some accurate stats of 212 for ages. Guess 101m is not a bad height.

I was under the impression it was 110 metres :(
Doesn't matter, it will add to the height and density of the area.
There is a model of it almost adjacent to PJ Obriens now.
It is a very classy tower IMHO. A bit Melbournish?..

Went past today, there is a massive hole being dug. It goes very deep and about half of Margaret street was closed due to earth movers using it as a base to dig from.

There has been a crane at this site for months now and yet they continue to dig the foundations.

JayT

A rather large rendering i found:

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/8580/1578580al1041976184.jpg

Hmmmm.........can't wait for what is going to be beside it, pan the camera just a little to the right please:D

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lol, yeah, one of the best things about 212 Margaret is it won't detract from Baroque at all. This is a nice 101 metre tall "gap filler".

Went past the site today and surprised that there was a core box present! Great news..
I was starting to think that this project went to sleep, great to see something.

Unfortunately, no pics.

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Yes I noticed that too, its above the street now and in no time at all we will be craning our necks looking up at it the same way as RiverCity.

There will be a very dense cluster of towers there in a few months.

jt

I hope it turns out like the rendering, if it does I love it alot nice and slim and sexy, good use of a small area

These are some pics I found from the website www.fkp.com.au

http://www.fkp.com.au/images/showcase/May2212.jpg

http://www.fkp.com.au/images/showcase/212May1.jpg

http://www.fkp.com.au/images/showcase/212con2.jpg

http://www.fkp.com.au/images/showcase/212march.jpg

http://www.fkp.com.au/images/showcase/212Marg4.jpg

I was bemused to see a Port-A-Loo on top the lift core today.
A shit house with a view (it's not like they have far to go for a crap as it with the core so low).

I bet they don't keep it there once the core starts to rise much higher...if your in the vicinity of Margaret St and it's blowing a gale look out....

If you look closely at my 7 June photo in the Casino Towers thread you can see a green portaloo on the right hand corner of the core box (partially obscured by crane).

Yeah, your right...that's the first time I've noticed it. I don't remember seeing one on River City.

I wonder if it's part of some new enterprise bargaining agreement?
They would have to pump it out sometime, and the only way to do that would be to crane it down to the truck at ground level.

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They just swap them over every few day's and get a new one.

jt

Is this site still a goer?? I have walked by in the late afternoon recently and there appears to be no activity here. The core seems to have stopped going up over the past month. Anyone know anything??

I walked past an hour ago and it was "a goer". Looked like alot of action and part of Margaret Street was closed due to cement trucks on the site.

jt

Photos taken today, 6 September 2003

http://home.iprimus.com.au/sdlennon/212marg0609031.JPG

http://home.iprimus.com.au/sdlennon/212marg0609032.JPG

core appears to be at level six?

thanks for the photo bt.

cant wait for this area to fill out.

I'm glad it's no taller than it is. It will make for a nice little gap filler between Baroque and River City.

I posted re. this tower back in June I think and made the comment that it didn't seem to be rising. It hasn't added a single floor since that post! What is happening here? Do the developers stall projects in order to maximise their market potential? Or is there serious trouble with this project. Anyone??

Photo taken today - doesn't seem much different!

http://members.optusnet.com.au/johnthay3/1nov2121.JPG

Photo taken today.

http://members.optusnet.com.au/johnthay3/7dec2121.JPG

212 feels like one of the slower moving developments in the city.
Thanks for the update (you get the feeling a picture every 4 months would do the trick).

Photo taken today. It's really crawling up!

http://members.optusnet.com.au/johnthay2/25jan042121.JPG

View from river park central
http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/0637/101400637al1078796188.jpg

From 'the gardens'
http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/0562/101400562cl1078794061.jpg

jt

Starting to get a move on now. Photo taken today.

http://members.optusnet.com.au/johnthay2/03apr042121.JPG

Great pic duke! Only yesterday I was walking just under the Kangaroo Point Cliffs and you could start to see 212 Margaret.
I was surprised because I hadn't seen it for a while.

Another photo taken 3/4/04

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/p67d685203f1ef06bf4740bad99cf1fdb/f923990e.jpg

What do we all think will happen to the Kings Parkade on the corner in the future?

I park there when I go into QUT as access to Margaret St is so easy coming in from the south (you bypass alot of the "gridlock" on the expressway).
It really is a prime site with uninterupted views to the South.
If it was up for redevelopment, what would we want there?
Something low squeezed between 130m of River City and the 101m or so (115 with spire) of 212?
Anything around 100m would have virtually no impact on the skyline (especially with a possible 200m+ tower to be built at 220 Margaret).

The site would really want a 500 footer to make a statement, but that really would make for a tight cluster of towers (with balconies so close you can almost shake hands).

Any ideas/preferences?

I'm not sure of the economics of carparks but I recall that the new city plan was trying to prevent any more standalone carparks in the city. This could have the effect of making the existing ones more valuable, hence making them safe from redevelopment.

There are still CBD sites that are currently underdeveloped that would be prime for residential or commercial redevelopment with retail/hospitality at street level.

Photo taken today. Has gone up by three floors in the last month.

http://members.optusnet.com.au/johnthay2/13may042121.JPG

Pictures taken this morning

http://img63.photobucket.com/albums/v192/chrisso/Brisbane/212_150504_1.jpg

http://img63.photobucket.com/albums/v192/chrisso/Brisbane/212_150504_2.jpg

^

http://img63.photobucket.com/albums/v192/chrisso/Brisbane/212_150504_2.jpg

Really shows how substantial River City is compared to these pole sized developments (Metropole, 212 on Margaret etc)

Shot taken today.
http://img68.photobucket.com/albums/v206/Ausilencer/Img_0378.jpg

Shots from today (25/6):

http://www.shadodotnet.net/photos/brisbane/20040625/thumbnails/thumb_DSC08376.JPG (http://www.shadodotnet.net/photos/brisbane/20040625/images/DSC08376.htm)

I had one from a better vantage point but it turned out blurry :(. That was me being in too much of a hurry.

http://www.shadodotnet.net/photos/brisbane/20040625/thumbnails/thumb_DSC08344.JPG (http://www.shadodotnet.net/photos/brisbane/20040625/images/DSC08344.htm)
You can just see it poking up in front of felix (right), from Southbank.

http://www.shadodotnet.net/photos/brisbane/20040625/thumbnails/thumb_DSC08361.JPG (http://www.shadodotnet.net/photos/brisbane/20040625/images/DSC08361.htm) - A mere glimpse from the Gardens

any recent pix of this one?

updates?
hey in this pic whats the really tall apartment tower to 212 margs left? and the one in background uc? just working something out for my brisbane diagram.
cheers

http://img63.photobucket.com/albums/v192/chrisso/Brisbane/212_150504_2.jpg

the one u/c is River park central on Mary st, built by United Developers and at that stage, equipped with a 250 and 350. now only the 350 remains i think.
The already there building is a mystery to me?????

its river city

thanks guys! River City looks huge!

Yeah, when I first walked up to river city (was walking ne to sw I think) it really did seem huge to me! - And when you get a shot like that it keeps things in perspective a bit.

Some shots of 212 Margaret taken yesterday.

Shot from the car park with RiverCity visible on the left.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/Ausilencer/212Margaret_768x1024_01.jpg

For CUL - The shot of RiverCity :-)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/Ausilencer/Img_1197_768x1024.jpg

Approaching from the left:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/Ausilencer/212Margaret_768x1024_02.jpg

Scaffolding removed from the bottom:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/Ausilencer/212Margaret_768x1024_04.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/Ausilencer/212Margaret_768x1024_03.jpg

Nice big front shot (sorry for the tiny bit of distortion):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/Ausilencer/212Margaret_768x1795_05.jpg

im suprised the body corp having cracked down on those naughty people hanging their washing on the balcony in river city...

Should put Ausilencer's shot of River City on SS.com - the only pictures of it at the moment are both renders.

im suprised the body corp having cracked down on those naughty people hanging their washing on the balcony in river city...

I assume you mean haven't?, and the blue towel thing in that pic.

If you look closely it's not hung over the balcony, but on a rope clothesline on the balcony. Ususally you're not allowed to hang things over the balcony, but on a clothes line on the balcony is fine.

oops, i meant havnt... in the same vein... i had the lady below me complain that i had an odd number of potplants on my balcony, and that i should really consider about getting an extra one so it dosnt detract from the exterior look of the building... mmmmkayyy

brilliant pic aus! that does deserve to go on ss.com!
212 on marg is also getting there.

oops, i meant havnt... in the same vein... i had the lady below me complain that i had an odd number of potplants on my balcony, and that i should really consider about getting an extra one so it dosnt detract from the exterior look of the building... mmmmkayyy

OMG some people are so wierd! An odd number of pot plants is really up there with some of the stuff my mum gets (she works for a particular organisation that provides housing) - "I have a fly in my apartment, what are you going to do about it?"

Thanks for the compliments about the pic guys! Currently in negotiations hehe...

oops, i meant havnt... in the same vein... i had the lady below me complain that i had an odd number of potplants on my balcony, and that i should really consider about getting an extra one so it dosnt detract from the exterior look of the building... mmmmkayyy

Below you hey? One day drop your least favourite plant onto her balcony and complain that she has an odd number of potplants. Point out how you now have an even number of them. :p

I swear 212 on Margaret is the slowest building ever constructed....EVER!

Below you hey? One day drop your least favourite plant onto her balcony and complain that she has an odd number of potplants. Point out how you now have an even number of them. :p


hehe i like your thinking

Felix is a schmoozle of curtains, thee was someone hanging their washing on the balcony but they must have been given a stern warning about central city ettiquette. That is the problem with see through balconies, and big windows, from here they are all usually permanently 80% clamped shut with curtains. Opaque balconies means you still get a view but all the stuff that accumulates on balconies is not such an eyesore.

I swear 212 on Margaret is the slowest building ever constructed....EVER!

Are there any problems with shortages of tradespeople down there becuase of this 'mega' boom? It's quite a problem in Townsville - a story in the Bulletin said most projects have been delayed or behind schedule because of it.

theres shortages everywhere! who would of thought? lol
theres a couple of Sydney towers that are waiting for tradesmen to finish off there current job so they can start there project.

Taken yesterday morning from the Storey Bridge

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/chrisso/Brisbane/212_280804_1.jpg

very nic shot, and nice zoom!

I'm just a tad disoriented. What is the taller scraper u/c is the background?

I'm just a tad disoriented. What is the taller scraper u/c is the background?

It's Metropole at the top end of Mary Street. Certainly is a different angle from what we normally see.

looking dense in that last pic. very sydney. ;)

Photo taken today. Probably only about four more levels to go now.

http://members.optusnet.com.au/johnthay1/24oct04212.JPG

I've been watching this from where I work - it might be just that I see it every day, but it doesn't look like it's moved in weeks!

Pic from yesterday. Corebox dismantled. Not long now.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/Ausilencer/Img_0471_small.jpg

I never heard of this before, even though it's been in the forum.

its been 5 weeks. any recent pix? must be completed now?

its been 5 weeks. any recent pix? must be completed now?

No its still going.

jt

19/12/04
http://ct4host.lunarpages.com/bne/21200.jpg

This tower is to be painted I hope?

thanx defec. yeah a paint job would suit.lol

Great Shot defec8R - I think that's the best one of 212 on Margaret that I've seen!

Even tho is not supertall, nor a great design i like it.

I like sharp edged buildings better than curvy balconies. (Meaning that ugly thing between 212 and rivercity in the photo)

I honestly think there is only about 3 people working on this building. It's taking forever.

Photo taken today. The rear section of the building has been painted.

http://home.iprimus.com.au/johnthay/photos/15jan052121.JPG

They appear to think both sides of their building will be built out lol. Since theres blank walls either side (Vision on 1 side, and a car park on the other)

What is the height limit for margaret st?.. i think i remember reading 150m excluding Visions site)

^
The 150m height limit for that street hasn't actually been passed, so I would assume that it would be the same limit for everywhere else (250m?)

High High is this building and does it have a name besides 212 on Margaret

115 metres, 33 floors. No other name, its name is offically 212 on Margaret

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/danubiis/212Marg1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/danubiis/212marg2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/danubiis/212marg3.jpg

nearly finished.

has crane gone yet? must be close.any paint yet?lol

I'm going back to uni at QUT today so if I remember to poke my head down Margaret St. I'll have a look :)

Last time I passed on Saturday the building looked pretty much complete: painted white with a bit of gray for interest, though I only looked at 2 sides of the building. It looked pretty good. I really can't remember if the crane was there, but I'd say it is gone.

Crane is gooooooooooone.

Crane is gooooooooooone.


lol. fatty vautin

Crane is gooooooooooone.

'bout bloody time, I remember when it went up 'cause my big old mate was driving it and that has to be well over two years ago.

They look to be nearly finished painting it.
Despite its simplicity i do like it lol.

Not long and it will be 'Completed'

I didn't think this one was very impressive or would make much imact on my normal view, but it is actually pretty nice and it has a surprisingly decent impact from Highgate Hill. Can't complain really...

Originally Posted by FAVELLE
Crane is gooooooooooone.

actually its not. its sitting beside the building awaiting to be dismantled. its on the left side and the tower has been lowered to its lowest point. the boom is sitting at 90 degrees. didnt have a camera coz its getting repaired.

Originally Posted by FAVELLE
Crane is gooooooooooone.

actually its not. its sitting beside the building awaiting to be dismantled. its on the left side and the tower has been lowered to its lowest point. the boom is sitting at 90 degrees. didnt have a camera coz its getting repaired.
From where i,m sitting cant see it.

As of yesterday the Crane was still there, as Maroon Grown said, sitting beside the building. If you are working on Riparian Favelle, you wont be able to see it from that angle. I haven't been at work today so I can't vouche for today - but I would think if they are going to remove it they would probably do it on the weekend??

The tower crane was dismantled early this morning. It was loaded onto some prime movers. It's gone. They can now paint that side of the building which has already started around the balconies

Here's a couple taken Yesterday or Today from Royal on the Park of 212 Margeret.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid160/pe28d656b3608b8c91bcc14d88a933c14/f4d929c2.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid160/p02acd9f26ae90424bfdd9d6a526429da/f4d929c9.jpg
Painting going on there, and of course, the crane is getting taken down.
Taken by My Mum, as she was down there this weekend.

From where i,m sitting cant see it.


ooooh yeah!!!!!! :jk:

so, exploiting your mother now are you Gertzy.

lol. cool pics. new angle.

Well Yes and then no. She went down for Cher with my Grandmother and so on, I asked her if she could take some pictures from where she was staying.
I would've taken them myself if I went down but I could'nt, good that I didn't though cause had my first Rugby Union Game of the Season.

212 on Margaret will open as Prime Pacific Apartments - serviced apartments, on June 15 according to this website. Photos anyone?

http://www.primepacificapartments.com.au/venue/46/home

its funny when a new skyscraper is completed no wants to take photos anymore of it.lol but when its Uc thousands of photos are taken of it. we really need good ones as soon as bldg is done. nice and shiny brand spanking new.
cheers

I actually thought about doing some shots of this one when I took all those other photos the other day - but ran out of time... :-(

It is looking quite good completely painted.

Plus I also thought people would be more interested in UC ones anyway, so that's why I did them first.

Well it took a Townsville forumer to get them but here are some photos of the completed 212 on Margaret :)

From Botanic Gardens
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/1494/212onm19pb.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

Looking up at Margaret St side - notice people waving down the bottom
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/317/212onm23mx.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

From the north
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/9037/212onm36ge.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

gotta love the way they just dont care about the sides (which will soon be covered up, at least on one side)

I like it :D

Nice work Oriolus - great shots of this building! And I like the finished product...

its funny when a new skyscraper is completed no wants to take photos anymore of it.lol but when its Uc thousands of photos are taken of it. we really need good ones as soon as bldg is done. nice and shiny brand spanking new.
cheers

When will you realise Cull. It is all about the cranes!!!! :)

I've started drawing 212 on Margaret for SSP, seeing as it's the tallest completed building in Brisbane without a diagram. I think the heights may have changed from what was originally planned, which would be reflected in the render. Compare this with my first photo above - the top section is a lot different. The figures Cul has on Emporis are 96m to roof and 115m to tip - a difference of 19m. Clearly this can't apply to the completed building. Can anyone help me?

http://www.212margaretstreet.com.au/images/building.jpg