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Is this national PDRM HQ or just for Daerah Dang Wangi?

Is this national PDRM HQ or just for Daerah Dang Wangi?

just for daerah la.....the pics shows...cadangan...IPPD dang wangi..

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quite big.

from the drawing... its doesn't look outstanding.

hq mcm kondo....he he. :)

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I like the idea behind it!! 3 in 1 under one roof! Every other police hq should be like this one!!

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Can u guys agak where the lokaps are going to be??

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bestnye kuarters tgh2 bandar :D
awasi lah anak2 anda!

This area is slowly coming together but that wilayah complex should share the same fate like yow chuan plaza soon.

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no need the blue color la....so ugly la...

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yeaay!another "beautiful" government building!:ohno::ohno::ohno:

the building really stands out from nowhere....

Aluminium cladding will make this building appearance more 'strong' and give modern touch, it will matched with blue colour.

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same location same color but difnt style

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Project Name : Construction Of The New District Police Complex In Dang Wangi, Kuala Lumpur

Year : Awarded in October 2006. Expected Completion Date : October 2009

Project Value : RM 125,000,000.00

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eye sore sight!:ohno:

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what an ugly beast

what an ugly beast

Especially in prime area..like a pimple in Ms.World's face!!:bash:

Especially in prime area..like a pimple in Ms.World's face!!:bash:

true...i wonder how such ugly building have the approval to be built there.other police HQ in kl looks 100 times better than this crap.

true...i wonder how such ugly building have the approval to be built there.other police HQ in kl looks 100 times better than this crap.

It is not "not worth" to open this thread for this building!!:lol:

It is not "not worth" to open this thread for this building!!:lol:

yeah...building like this we can find so many in other states n other 3rd world countries.

true...i wonder how such ugly building have the approval to be built there.

blame the EPU and the ministry of home affairs. no beauty contest involves. it is a design n build job by a bumi contractor.

blame the EPU and the ministry of home affairs. no beauty contest involves. it is a design n build job by a bumi contractor.

no wonder...:ohno:

no wonder...:ohno:

Garbage in garbage out..Malaysia always boleh!:banana:

YUCKS big time!

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and what's that dome doing there?!!!

^^mosque!!!

^^ Yeah, but still they can design something else for a Mosque besides dome mar... >.< Somemore warna tak match!

^^ Yeah, but still they can design something else for a Mosque besides dome mar... >.< Somemore warna tak match!

yup!they should change the dome's color to blue instead!haiyoo

actually the design is not too ugly for a police station... but its damm funny/kelakar....

really? 125million money could do alot better.

really? 125million money could do alot better.

125mil?!!!! and that is how it looks like?OMG!!

125mil?!!!! and that is how it looks like?OMG!!

we contributed some also as tax payer..:ohno:

This is Hong Kong Police's HQ --

http://www.archsd.gov.hk/ExhGallery/Project_Exhibition/police_hq_photo01.jpg

This is Singapore Police's HQ --

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I think 125million can achieve at least half of those above?!

This is Hong Kong Police's HQ --

http://www.archsd.gov.hk/ExhGallery/Project_Exhibition/police_hq_photo01.jpg

This is Singapore Police's HQ --

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They will ask you to compare with Vietnam, Philipines, Indonesia, Thailand..

dis is not the national HQla... dis is only for dang wang district....y so bising2 one???

ayoyo!!!

Police HQ Xtension @ Jln Hang Tuah

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=783432&highlight=police

^^ Lol :lol: That proves your point, choon!

I'm not comparing HQ to HQ, but I'm comparing the designs! I believe 125 millions can do alotttt better than this Betty despite the fact that these people are not as capable like her!

dis is not the national HQla... dis is only for dang wang district....y so bising2 one???

ayoyo!!!

Police HQ Xtension @ Jln Hang Tuah

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=783432&highlight=police

bukan la rizal...design teruk sangat..kalau building ni kat kelang ke,kajang ke takpe la..rugi la kalau tempat best camtu ada lak building design buruk kat situ.

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we all aware of why they put the blue colour la...ayooooo!^^:ohno:
AND BECAUSE OF THAT COLOUR WE GAVE SUCH COMMENTS!!!!

luckily the new building in bukit aman n the expansion one in jln hang tuah is not painted in BLUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but if u skip the blue,the design is still so terrible.again,this kindda building only suitable to be located in KAJANG or KELANG!!!!!!

if they insist to put the blue color scheme, they could play with many options before choosing this. what is so difficult to achieve today when computer can aided the designers to visualize?

the thing is,they dont hired professionals to design this..im pretty sure they hired some kindda cronies to do the job.or at least government designer.cut cost?or makan duit?either way,that ugly monster is going to stay there forever.:ohno:

E.Y.E.S.O.R.E!:bash:

they do hv professionals to do, but this could be their lowest priority and have some like mentalities.."aiyah, ini polis station, sapa mau nak tengok."

hmmm..cakap pun tak guna..benda dah siap.lantak lah.

they do hv professionals to do, but this could be their lowest priority and have some like mentalities.."aiyah, ini polis station, sapa mau nak tengok."

James, from your experience, what could this RM125million have achieved (besides this ugly Police station)? Do you happen to know any project equivalence (with more or less similar value, size etc) for comparison?

Ikano Power Centre was RM125 million

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What a shameful Malayisa Boleh project!

malayISA?

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It doesnt even look like a Police HQ!,looks more like some kind of low cost apartment!! :ohno:

James, from your experience, what could this RM125million have achieved (besides this ugly Police station)? Do you happen to know any project equivalence (with more or less similar value, size etc) for comparison?

a similar police related project at jln hang tuah is costing about rm122million. both hang tuah and dang wangi projects were designed around year 04-05, but the latter started this year. i dont hv the pic with me, but it was basically an extension to the old wing with 20+ stories ontop of a large podium block. the facade design is more savvy n expensive; dressed up with curtain wall glass. so you may end up believing that is a commercial purpose bldg like the examples of HK/SG pictures you brought up here, instead of the stereotype police bldg.

how much should a building like this cost?how expensive a land in that area?

i cant answer you with a guessestimate here. it wont be fair and reliable to estimate on the basis of the size and look, when each similar projects might have different numbers of facilities, levels, usage, capacities, equipments, rooms, etc. as for the land, the sum does not include the landcost because the govt provided the land. 125million is the sum of total construction cost for buildings and infrastructure.

to see how well designed is for 125million project versus 122million similar project at jln hang tuah, you can figure out yourself with this simple way, by observing the sum of the design fees charged. in practice; designers charge about 5% of the total cost. so, we r comparing 6.2million versus 6.1million ringgit design cost. with a different of 100,000 cost, one came out with a mediocre flathouse look while the one at jln hang tuah definitely is more savvy and modern look.

Yeah.. like what James Foong says... there are so many variables in a building design and configuration, that deciding what an RM 125 million building should look like is kinda hard to tell.

Another example is the fugly G Tower in Jalan Tun Razak that costs a whopping half a billion ringgit. It is hard for me to understand why that monstrosity costs so much? From the outside, it certainly doesn't look like a posh building that it was meant to be.

..and what's up with the 'Malaysia Boleh" remarks?

i see... i understand now.thanks.good info :)

Thanks for the info :)

Below is the pic of the HQ @ Jln Hang Tuah, posted by Patchay:

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hey, thanks for digging out the hang tuah pic.

Another example is the fugly G Tower in Jalan Tun Razak that costs a whopping half a billion ringgit. It is hard for me to understand why that monstrosity costs so much?

the figure might hv been self inflated or faked, whos know? perhaps the intention is to boost the building value, or some developers might telling they had invested extensively on expensive features, when it may turn out it doesnt cost a bomb. seeing that way, potential buyers would hv gotten to believe that every sen they paid the lease rate is worthy for all the 'extra' investment the developer had put in. i cant tell it is true, but can you dismiss it as well?

If you backtrack the company previous announcements, they were only budgeted 300million for the project. now it ballooned to 470million (57% increase) would be too hard to believe and got everyone scratching their head.

and if my understanding is right, the building cost is only 168million, according to the builder contract value. the landcost would be in somewhere btwn 40 to 45million according to general rule of thumb; land aqquisition usually takes up 15% of whole development budget. so in this case, 15% from 300million would allow 45mil on land allocation alone. therein, land plus building financing would cost them 213mil only. so, the balance 87mil (or 30% of total budget) would hv spend on additional works, self procurement of equipments like lifts, escalators if happen so, and non construction expanses like fees, loan interests, sales operation, staffs, ads, etcs.

now, an additional 170mil thats ballooned the 300mil budget to 470mil goes to where?

the figure might hv been self inflated or faked, whos know? perhaps the intention is to boost the building value, or some developers might telling they had invested extensively on expensive features, when it may turn out it doesnt cost a bomb. seeing that way, potential buyers would hv gotten to believe that every sen they paid the lease rate is worthy for all the 'extra' investment the developer had put in. i cant tell it is true, but can you dismiss it as well?

If you backtrack the company previous announcements, they were only budgeted 300million for the project. now it ballooned to 470million (57% increase) would be too hard to believe and got everyone scratching their head.

and if my understanding is right, the building cost is only 168million, according to the builder contract value. the landcost would be in somewhere btwn 40 to 45million according to general rule of thumb; land aqquisition usually takes up 15% of whole development budget. so in this case, 15% from 300million would allow 45mil on land allocation alone. therein, land plus building financing would cost them 213mil only. so, the balance 87mil (or 30% of total budget) would hv spend on additional works, self procurement of equipments like lifts, escalators if happen so, and non construction expanses like fees, loan interests, sales operation, staffs, ads, etcs.

now, an additional 170mil thats ballooned the 300mil budget to 470mil goes to where?

You know I know LAH! or GHOST knows!!:nuts:

the rendering
at first it was purple like barney.. at least now is blue.......
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^^ OMG! :eek:,if that colour was chosen and completed today,it will be the ultimate eyesore in KL...

Really got no other better choices la they all...looks like a rushed-forward project since it was started....

we all aware of why they put the blue colour la...ayooooo!^^:ohno:
AND BECAUSE OF THAT COLOUR WE GAVE SUCH COMMENTS!!!!

luckily the new building in bukit aman n the expansion one in jln hang tuah is not painted in BLUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but if u skip the blue,the design is still so terrible.again,this kindda building only suitable to be located in KAJANG or KELANG!!!!!!

Lol you gotta believe this,Klang's Police HQ also has a better looking new structure,it might be small or not tall but its way better looking than this one...took this pic on the way to Tengku Kelana aka 'Little India'

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WHAT?!if the one in klang can look rather acceptable how come that one(where ever it is)look so terrible? im literally 'geleng' my head now..Vic,thank u so very very much for the pic..this proof that PDRM building/HQ not necessarily to be painted in blue.

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The Colour...Oh My Dear God!!

The Colour...Oh My Dear God!!

u can say that again

Whatlah u guys warna rasmi PDRM dont play play ah!!Intersting package i think 4 in 1 u get apts for staff,office,enough jail space for all the drugies from the area and a must somehow surau!cant beat that!!

I knolah color PDRM but do they have to have that much blueee??? just on the podium or the logo is enoughlah! macam cartoon building on Nickleodeon..

^^ :lol:

repeating same argument?

Lol you gotta believe this,Klang's Police HQ also has a better looking new structure,it might be small or not tall but its way better looking than this one...took this pic on the way to Tengku Kelana aka 'Little India'

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Is that some illusion optic? The building seems abit tilted

the photographer aligned himself with the downward road/bridge ^^ :)

^^ Yes guys,i was at the exit of the bridge and heading towards into Jalan Tengku Kelana...and it isnt a illusion Johnson :)

Whats the deal with this place??It looks like its ready.

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imagine during friday prayer....mesti gila babas punya traffic jam!!!

That is for sure!!!I never thought that the surau can be so huge!!!!

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same word: yack!!:bash:

Its amazing that the surau is actually where the original station was,The colours emm what can i say from the extreme white and blue with that super ugly cambell complex!!

unimaginative architect. worse than JKR's :lol:

they should have build something like the USJ8 police station..modern and stylish...

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gosh,too much blueeee....

gosh,too much blueeee....

manyak sgt tgk citer blue....:nuts::nuts::nuts:

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^^ After seeing that pic i already dah jadi rabun la haha,what a eyesore...:lol:

the only thing that looks nice in the pic is the nearly completed Menara Cap Square 2...hehe

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it's sooooooooo f*****g UGLY! Hideous!

it's sooooooooo f*****g UGLY! Hideous!

Malaysia Boleh building! If you don't like it then go to other country..:nuts:

Malaysia Boleh building! If you don't like it then go to other country..:nuts:

so what's exactly your point then? tibe2 je :nuts:

if i don't like a certain building i must go to other countries..haha...

right downtown... good job

The location is perfect from day 1,Just that the colourlah ahyo:ohno:Just look around that arealah some of the building owners very down practical one ma they pick a colour that would last another 100 years without having repaint ,example Semua House i think its BLACK,next door Campbell Complex DARK BROWN and of course the famous Wilayah Complex gone case so when u think of it ,its a good compromise colour for this building for what it is:nuts:Tuan tuan jangan lupa MALAYSIA MEMANG BOLEH:cheers:

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^^ Syukry i like your style of taking pics but this building spoils your pic :lol:

What an eyesore and embarrassment of a building! It looks bad even for a condo built in the 90s. :gaah:

Lacks elegance as government institution. Maybe the blue color distorts the feel. Build it by white marble, show the wealth of Malaysia and the strengh (marble is very hard material, resembles PDRM strong stance against crimes) and purity (white resembles purity and no corruption) of PDRM.

Especially the kubah, it is gold color right? Not suitable, it should be in white color. The whole building is in blue and white, but only the kubah is gold color, it looks weird.

And I noticed the building is built by red bricks. Why they don't try to make the buidling red color, same color as the red brick, same like Parcel A in Putrajaya, and red color resembles power and authourity in China, have the strengh as government institution, that's why forbidden city walls and buildings all painted red. I didn't meant to paint it red, but leave the building color same as the brick color reduces the painting cost.

The blue color is too sharp, not very suitable used as building color. There are a buidling with architecture a little bit similiar with it is Keio University Mita Campus, use the color they used to replace blue may be better?

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Not a surpirse......Already lost faith in government-constructed buildings. Open tender would not have created such an embarrassment.

^^ any project above 200K will go for open tender.

and the lowest tender will be awarded for the project.

and the result - this new PDRM HQ.

anything wrong about that?. :ohno:

teruk betul...

looks like modern but it's not modern, looks like art deco but it's not art deco, looks like moorish but it's not moorish, looks like neo-palladian but it's not neo-palladian...

I don't know what this called. Malaysian architecture? it's a shame when it bears the name of Malaysia.

Looks like its been ready for a while now !!!Wonder whens the big day for najib and hisham to gloat and brag of how great and beautiful it is!!!!

^^ :lol: Exactly,just walked passed it by that day again,and i dont even bother taking pics of it,too ugly to describe

^^ any project above 200K will go for open tender.

and the lowest tender will be awarded for the project.

and the result - this new PDRM HQ.

anything wrong about that?. :ohno:

Are you sure this project was open-tender? I seriously doubt it. Because if it were, the authorities would have chosen the best design from competing architects. Don't tell me the government can't afford to build a better-looking building, especially since I've seen around public funds wasted around the country already. What about public consultation process? This is a government-owned building and therefore the public should have a say as well.

XNeo, nothing to express regarding the design of this building?

Govt service buildings generally are designed and built by JKR or contracted out to builders from JKR designs.
There is no competing design from architectural firms for building police stations/quarters, small hospitals, schools, as it is all basically a standard design with modifications. This saves costs, if this was done by opening tenders to artistically designed and custom built buildings then cost will be higher.
Pretty custom built buildings or standard buildings, spend less or more these are the perennial debate.
For me I am all for using public money to build pretty buildings within justifiable reason. The key word is justifiable.

JKR seriously needs a fresh batch of creative, enthusiastic and passionate architects.

Are you sure this project was open-tender? I seriously doubt it. Because if it were, the authorities would have chosen the best design from competing architects. Don't tell me the government can't afford to build a better-looking building, especially since I've seen around public funds wasted around the country already. What about public consultation process? This is a government-owned building and therefore the public should have a say as well.

if u have doubt about gov procurement and transparencies..then u can log a report lor.provided u got evidence.

in my experience, gov project in big amount must be open tender, else...those officers gali kubur sendiri if kantoi...for not following the procurement process.

XNeo, nothing to express regarding the design of this building?
typical PDRM building design, like new one in rawang too.as long it is convenient for staff, practical and functional then ok la.what purpose having modern,beautiful PDRM when ppl keep complaining about our policemen. :lol:

some gov building are good in design and some are not.
depending on budget.maybe.

anyway, even some commercial building are fugly design....like the one develop by YNH - beside Hong Leong bank...and many others. :down:...so what?.

i am currently designing an IPD, three questions for all of u :

1) can i know which architect firm handling this IPD project(Dang Wangi)?
2) why blue colour bother u so much?
3) what are the other elements that can make IPD will stand awwwwsome in Malaysian's pov?.

jawab2..ramai2

i am currently designing an IPD, three questions for all of u :

1) can i know which architect firm handling this IPD project(Dang Wangi)?
2) why blue colour bother u so much?
3) what are the other elements that can make IPD will stand awwwwsome in Malaysian's pov?.

jawab2..ramai2

tak apa phantom,saya sokong kamu.
everybody likes to be judger but hates to be judged.
kalau kerajaan spend a lot on super moden and super awwwwwwwwsome building or gov HQ, bising pulak dia orang!

From flickr
by carole83

very dense and also very ugly!..
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4096/4915283419_a68de6d692_b.jpg

Thanks for the memories:cheers:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c224/dengilo/jan2007029.jpghttp://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c224/dengilo/jan2007023.jpg

the design is very 90's in my opinion, nothing fresh, but just very plain..not tp say it's downright ugly though.

Nothing wrong with the mosque i think. They just need to paint it all white. That would be alrite..
^^

Nothing wrong with the mosque i think. They just need to paint it all white. That would be alrite..
^^

yeah. or add some grey. grey+blue+white is a good combination….

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/20497561.jpg

you see, adding some grey could do some 'damage control'. :D photos from (World 2 World)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4096/4915283419_a68de6d692_b.jpg

i am currently designing an IPD, three questions for all of u :

1) can i know which architect firm handling this IPD project(Dang Wangi)?
2) why blue colour bother u so much?
3) what are the other elements that can make IPD will stand awwwwsome in Malaysian's pov?.

jawab2..ramai2

errm,
1) i dont know
2) blue didn't bother me,but dang wangi color sheme not nice lah, i would say a lot of bright white and few blue here n there,can be nicer
3)like IPD putrajaya, ok lah

the blue is too much.....the towers would be better with white alone....but the blue is a good marker....balai polis kat depan tuh.....ala....balai polis yang besar tuh.....so people have no trouble finding the police station and they can feel secured.....

there is no doubt that it is ugly in blue but that what makes it noticeable.....its a police station...

I saw lots of nice modern IPD in our country but NOT this one....this one menyakitkan mata

^^agree. this police station is the good example of modern touch. :)

Balai Polis USJ

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr120/ypchoon/NewUSJ8Balai.jpg

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/20497561.jpg

it would be nice if they came out with a design like 'police of the future' thingy.. like in the movies..

it would be nice if they came out with a design like 'police of the future' thingy.. like in the movies..

We have discussed earlier and the question is always what is huge wrong with our boys? face the truth of current practice.. i felt the perennial problems faced by them is limited resources to cope with work deadlines. financial constraint to recruit more designers and acquiring advance computer design programs impede more ideas n creativity into reality. in turn, many low profile works were leave to draftsmen to do and the architect is just fine tuning the design to look more presentable. Ask idiamindada.


This is Hong Kong Police's HQ --

http://www.archsd.gov.hk/ExhGallery/Project_Exhibition/police_hq_photo01.jpg

This is Singapore Police's HQ --

http://sneezelam.hkdisk.com/singapore-21.jpg

Wow, far cry from what we have..

Govt service buildings generally are designed and built by JKR or contracted out to builders from JKR designs.
There is no competing design from architectural firms for building police stations/quarters, small hospitals, schools, as it is all basically a standard design with modifications. This saves costs, if this was done by opening tenders to artistically designed and custom built buildings then cost will be higher.
Pretty custom built buildings or standard buildings, spend less or more these are the perennial debate.
For me I am all for using public money to build pretty buildings within justifiable reason. The key word is justifiable.

i believe JKR start to change their standard design for hospitals.

as for police building, i think only the police quarters (apartment) they still using the standard design, but not the office.



in my experience, gov project in big amount must be open tender, else...those officers gali kubur sendiri if kantoi...for not following the procurement process.


again, police station+quarters are not a design-built project. contractor only asked to built as what design is given to them. they are not the architect, not even the building owner.

We have discussed earlier and the question is always what is huge wrong with our boys? face the truth of current practice.. i felt the perennial problems faced by them is limited resources to cope with work deadlines. financial constraint to recruit more designers and acquiring advance computer design programs impede more ideas n creativity into reality. in turn, many low profile works were leave to draftsmen to do and the architect is just fine tuning the design to look more presentable. Ask idiamindada.

actually making that 'computer aided design CAD' is not that hard and we have so many people who can do that. the obvious problem Dang Wangi Police Station is about 'creative ideas'. and architect is 100% fully responsible for that 'creative idea', not the client.

btw, this is NOT a police HQ!!

Police HQ is in Bukit Aman. so stop comparing this with those in singapore and HK. thy our people being so ultra kiasu one ah? :lol:

Our PDRM HQ in bukit aman is quite nice.....the new tower......its nice...

True not bad at all.But a little out of the way for the public and i sincerely hope thats the last highrise they ever build in that area!!!