Hello!

Yesterday I read in the newspaper that Bratislava region still has the second highest GDP per capita (PPP) from all new EU countries (Prague is the first) with 147,9 percent of EU average (Prague 160 percent).

I would like to know the data about Ljubljana region (if there is) or Slovenia as a whole. Thank you very much :cheers:

Actually of all new EU members the richest capital (it isn't a region though) must be Nicosia (don't know the stats). Finding data for Ljubljana without surroundings is a pain in the ass.

Well, I see that you are right. It seems that Slovenia as a whole country is recognized as 1 EU region only instead of more regions in Slovakia and other countries... At least from this pictures.

http://ec.europa.eu/regional_policy/atlas/images/eu25_en.gif

http://europa.eu/abc/keyfigures/images/graph/inhabitant_en.jpg

Here you have the percentage of the Slovenian statistical regions in 2005. Osrednjeslovenska (statistična regija) = Central Slovenian (statistical region), but it's much more than just Ljubljana, b/c it includes 500,000 inhabitants (Ljubljana is just 250,000-300,000):

http://www.stat.si/eng/PrikaziSliko.aspx?id=1896
http://www.stat.si/eng/novica_prikazi.aspx?id=1318

With Eurostats data you can easily calculate the percentage of the EU average.

Hello!

Yesterday I read in the newspaper that Bratislava region still has the second highest GDP per capita (PPP) from all new EU countries (Prague is the first) with 147,9 percent of EU average (Prague 160 percent).

I would like to know the data about Ljubljana region (if there is) or Slovenia as a whole. Thank you very much :cheers:

New (2005)data came out. Slovenia is divided in 2 regions. West Slovenia is at 104% of EU average, and East Slovenia is at 71% of EU avg. They both have 1 million population.

2007 data shows that Slovenia is at 91,2% of EU average.

And believe me these figures of capital regions are not relevant at all. If someone is living near Vienna and works in Vienna GDP will be artificially higher.
Whole central Slovenia (Capital + 2x of population) is at 138% of EU avg.
On TV they said that Ljubljana GDP is 2,5x of Slovenia average.

But who cares:lol: Salaries are more important. Ljubljana had avg salary at 1040€ a month, my Maribor had 910€, and important fact is that Slovenia has registred unemployment at 6,8% while ILO is 4,3%:)

Combining Eurostat data with Slovenian Statistics Office data, GDP per capita (PPP) of Central SLO region is 125% of the EU average. According to my estimates, GDP per capita (PPP) of Ljubljana (toghether with another municipality, Ljubljana is the richest NUTS-3(4) region in Slovenia) should be somewhere between 160 and 200% of the Slovenian average. This should translate into something between 140 and 175% of EU average.

Okay, thank you for the explanation. I understand that the capitals in Europe are almost always something like "state in the state". So if LJ GDP/capita (PPP) is 2.5x SI average, it is 228 percent of EU, what is pretty nice!

But... are you sure that average salary (I mean gross salary) in Ljubljana is (only) 1040€/month? In Bratislava, it is around 820€, but I heard that the average salary in Slovenia is around 1200€!

On TV they said that Ljubljana GDP is 2,5x of Slovenia average.
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Were they referring to GDP per capita or to the one adjusted with PPP?

Okay, thank you for the explanation. I understand that the capitals in Europe are almost always something like "state in the state". So if LJ GDP/capita (PPP) is 2.5x SI average, it is 228 percent of EU, what is pretty nice!

But... are you sure that average salary (I mean gross salary) in Ljubljana is (only) 1040€/month? In Bratislava, it is around 820€, but I heard that the average salary in Slovenia is around 1200€!

I was talking about netto salary:)

Gross salary in Ljubljana is 1788€, while for Slovenia is 1491€ (945€ netto)
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/4408/chart8750dm9.jpg

He must have been referring to net salaries!?

Matr si pa hiter MBM, sploh ne utegnem napisat :))

I was talking about netto salary:)

Gross salary in Ljubljana is 1788€, while for Slovenia is 1491€ (945€ netto)


oh, okay, I understand now :nuts::nuts::nuts:
we usually do not talk about netto salaries in Slovakia :bash:

oh, okay, I understand now :nuts::nuts::nuts:
we usually do not talk about netto salaries in Slovakia :bash:

:lol::lol: We always talk about netto salaries. Who cares how high gross is:lol: It is important what you get montly on you account:)

But i understand that gross salaries are much higher. Healtcare is for free, so are dentist and university studies:)

Anyway, isn't it strange that the gross salary is 70 percent higher than netto salary?? For example, in Bratislava, when I have 900€/month, I get 700€ netto, so the difference is up to 30 percent.

In fact you have to take gross salary as the basis for your calculation. So if you do that there is no way you get 70% difference. Differences between gross and net salaries in Slovenia are up to 50%, which is not unique in the EU. Similar situation is in Belgium and I am sure there are other countires as well. One thing is sure: Slovenian public sector is expensive, hence, amongst others, the need for high taxes and social contibutions!!

Anyway, isn't it strange that the gross salary is 70 percent higher than netto salary?? For example, in Bratislava, when I have 900€/month, I get 700€ netto, so the difference is up to 30 percent.

If your gross salary would be 900€ in Slovenia, your netto salary would be 628€.

As Alexandroas said we have expensive public sector.

But who cares. When you negotiate with your employer you negotiate about NETTO salary and not GROSS:lol:

I would simply not give up free healthcare, dentists, university studies for few % higher salary:)


p.s.: Wizard how high is netto salary in Slovakia?

We always talk about netto salaries. Who cares how high gross is:lol: It is important what you get montly on you account:)

That's important, yes, but if you wanna know the state of the whole country, gross is more important, b/c obviously your money goes somewhere else, but in the same country.

Anyway, may I ask why you're so much interested in this, Wizzard? Do you have some discussion going on in the Central European subforum? :D

how high is netto salary in Slovakia?



data for year 2007
average gross salary in Slovakia is 21 000 SKK = 650 Euro
=btw your employer pay altogether for you 28 393 SKK = 875 Euro (included all taxes)

so if let say - you are single without children

average net salary is 16 481 SKK = 510 Euro + extra pension 30 Euro a month from Employer on your account

On TV they said that Ljubljana GDP is 2,5x of Slovenia average.On TV they said that Ljubljana GDP is 2,5x of Slovenia average.Are you two the same person? :lol: I don't believe that. Where and when did they say it?

I was just repeating MBM's quote.

Oh; well, we usually use the Quote button. ;)

Purchase Power reflects the nett incomes, cause this is the money you can spend. (=buy goods&services)

data for year 2007
average gross salary in Slovakia is 21 000 SKK = 650 Euro
=btw your employer pay altogether for you 28 393 SKK = 875 Euro (included all taxes)

so if let say - you are single without children

average net salary is 16 481 SKK = 510 Euro + extra pension 30 Euro a month from Employer on your account

I didnt know nett salary in Slovakia is that low?!:nuts: Even Croatia has higher nett salary (675€).

^^

Actually average Croatian NET pay is 710-724 Euros and in EE only Slovenia has higher NET/Gross pays.

Croatian NET pay for November last year was 5135 kuna, should hit 5250 kuna average for 2008, 5850 kuna for 2009 and 6500 kuna in 2010. Currently 1 Euro = 7.25 kuna.

PS, gross pay in Croatia is 1065 Euros, Zagreb has 20% higher average pay than the rest of the country.

^^

Actually average Croatian NET pay is 710-724 Euros and in EE only Slovenia has higher NET/Gross pays.

Croatian NET pay for November last year was 5135 kuna, should hit 5250 kuna average for 2008, 5850 kuna for 2009 and 6500 kuna in 2010. Currently 1 Euro = 7.25 kuna.

PS, gross pay in Croatia is 1065 Euros, Zagreb has 20% higher average pay than the rest of the country.

I guess that Croatian salaries are quite high compared to nominal GDP. If Slovenia would have such high ratio avg salary would be 1400€ :lol:.

But anyways November salaries are not exactly releveant since they are strongly influenced by 13th salary. Slovenian avg salary for whole 2007 is around 870€.

p.s.: Are you really dreaming that avg salary in Croatia will be 900€ in 2010?:lol: From 630€ in 2007 up for 45% in just 3 years? Common its not like Croatia is Dubai:lol::lol:

p.s.: By my calculations Croatian avg. salary will be 757€ in 2010 (5506 Kura), and Slovenian 1033€, and believe me i can calculate things. I correctly forecasted Slovenian salaries 3 months in advance:lol:(unless inflation is above 7% my numbers will probably be closer to reality:lol:)

p.s.3: Croatian salaries wont go up that fast also because currently it is high unemployment of less educated people. When these people will presumably get job(an unemployment will be lower) they will "destroy" average with lovering it.

I guess that Croatian salaries are quite high compared to nominal GDP. If Slovenia would have such high ratio avg salary would be 1400€ :lol:.

But anyways November salaries are not exactly releveant since they are strongly influenced by 13th salary. Slovenian avg salary for whole 2007 is around 870€.

p.s.: Are you really dreaming that avg salary in Croatia will be 900€ in 2010?:lol: From 630€ in 2007 up for 45% in just 3 years? Common its not like Croatia is Dubai:lol::lol:

p.s.: By my calculations Croatian avg. salary will be 757€ in 2010 (5506 Kura), and Slovenian 1033€, and believe me i can calculate things. I correctly forecasted Slovenian salaries 3 months in advance:lol:(unless inflation is above 7% my numbers will probably be closer to reality:lol:)

p.s.3: Croatian salaries wont go up that fast also because currently it is high unemployment of less educated people. When these people will presumably get job(an unemployment will be lower) they will "destroy" average with lovering it.

whats with you and :lol:

As to your calculations, I really don't give a monkey's arse.
Your words have lost any meaning on these forums, you are way to political and everything you say has nationalistic connotations in it.

but you are wellcomed to look it up on Croatian websites and than do what you always do, yap yap and yap some more.

BTW Croatian pays are growing at 5-7% annually for past 10 years, and how did you get to 5500 in 2010, when pays are already 5135kuna is beyond me, PS, pays in October were also 5080 kuna.

As I said, average for 2008, 5250 kuna, and for 2009 5850 Kuna, I really don't care what you have to say about that. Go and yap about this to someone who cares, :ohno:

http://www.mfin.hr/
http://www.hnb.hr/eindex.htm

PS, average pay in Croatia in 2007 was 670 Euros, as to your statistics provide me with the links, bc I do not believe one word that comes out of your mouth, as a matter of fact, on these forums NO one believes one word you say.

Going back salary of 1050 neto in Slovenia. It is very good and quite surprising. 1050 is around $1550 Canadian. In order to make that much, you need to be earning $15 per hour gross pay. That is just to give you an idea.

Well done Slovenia.

I didnt know nett salary in Slovakia is that low?!:nuts: Even Croatia has higher nett salary (675€).

Maybe, but Slovakia has higher GDP per capita (PPP) :banana:

MBM is an economist and because of this I believe most of the things that he stated earlier.

While you on the other hand have just forecasted a salary growth of 45% in three years which is absolutely ridiculous.

And I actually laughed when you wrote about 'nationalistic connotations'. I mean, look at your post. Your enormous growth prediction is quite obveously nationalistically stimulated. Like MBM said, Croatia isn't Dubai.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

MBM is an economist and because of this I believe most of the things that he stated earlier.

While you on the other hand have just forecasted a salary growth of 45% in three years which is absolutely ridiculous.

And I actually laughed when you wrote about 'nationalistic connotations'. I mean, look at your post. Your enormous growth prediction is quite obveously nationalistically stimulated. Like MBM said, Croatia isn't Dubai.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Actually if I use made up data natrually I'd say things he said, but if you follow the links you'll find he didn't do his research well. 2007, 20008, 2009, 2010, - 45% is not that much when you spread average over 4 years. As to him being an economist, I doubt that, I can say all kinds of crap on forums, his behavior thus far only points in the opposite direction. As to the economist, once he has BSC next to his name, than he can be called an economist, BTW, I studied economics and International relations, so I know few things about economics and future forecasting, after all I did work for major investment bank here in London.

BTW my original forecasting for pays in Croatia was.

5200 - 2008
5500 - 2009
5850 - 2010

but than I looked at the research and revised my estimates.

Pays in Croatia AND Slovenia have increased much faster than the annual inflation rate.

In 2006 Average NET pay in Slovenia was 774 Euros, (232 000 Tolars) I'll have to check data published by Slovene National Bank, but say if it is 870 Euros now, this is an increase of 12.5% in less than 14 months or if we use this as our rate of growth- 42.85% over 4 year period.

MBM is saying 945 Euros, well that would mean in less than 14 months (December 2006 - February 2008) average pay in Slovenia increased by 22%, or 4 annual forecast of 84.48%. :nuts:

Slovenia is not Dubai either ;)

^^
and who compared slovenia with dubai? I know; Nobody
croatia was mentioned only to demonstrate that it is just like the rest of EE countries:bash:

Just to add,

Among our Croatian forumers we have 7-8 Economist, well 4-5 are still students of economy (one of them is a 3rd year top A student, top 5 in his class of 250) and 2-3 are working as economist, so you can say we have delectable bunch of brains and minds which can always give you few of their thoughts on our discussions here. But not to turn this thread in to a spam fest lets concentrate on pays in Slovenia and Slovakia as this thread was intended and leave Croatia out of this discussions, that seems to me a fair proposition. :cheers:

Eurostat (http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/portal/page?_pageid=1073,46870091&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL&p_product_code=EB011)

Here are the latest Eurosta data of GDB by PPI

MBM is saying 945 Euros, well that would mean in less than 14 months (December 2006 - February 2008) average pay in Slovenia increased by 22%, or 4 annual forecast of 84.48%. :nuts:I don't know about December 2006, but 945 € for now is indeed correct. It's probably slightly bigger, b/c it's data for November 2007. Compared to November 2006 it increased 7.1 %. Here (http://www.ljubljana.si/file/737714/infdec2007.pdf) you can see (it's in Slovenian) at the beginning of the second page, it says: in Slovenia the average gross wage in November (2007) was 1,491.65 €, which is an increase of 7.1 % compared to November 2006 (1,392.76 € obviously). The average net wage was 945.34 € (882.67 € in November 2006 obviously, so it couldn't've been just 774 € in December 2006).
The second paragraph talks about the Ljubljana City Municipality: gross 1,788.19 €, net 1,101.05 €.

I didnt know nett salary in Slovakia is that low?!:nuts: Even Croatia has higher nett salary (675€).

Also, it is interesting that Slovakia has still the lowest average salary in V4 countries (maybe it is because it has the smallest capital city :)), although it has the most productive economy :banana: So maybe it is better than the opposite and it can improve in the future.

I don't know about December 2006, but 945 € for now is indeed correct. It's probably slightly bigger, b/c it's data for November 2007. Compared to November 2006 it increased 7.1 %. Here (http://www.ljubljana.si/file/737714/infdec2007.pdf) you can see (it's in Slovenian) at the beginning of the second page, it says: in Slovenia the average gross wage in November (2007) was 1,491.65 €, which is an increase of 7.1 % compared to November 2006 (1,392.76 € obviously). The average nett wage was 945.34 € (882.67 € in November 2006 obviously, so it couldn't've been just 774 € in December 2006).
The second paragraph talks about the Ljubljana City Municipality: gross 1,788.19 €, nett 1,101.05 €.


thanx m8, just had a look, I think I made an error in exchange rate, I confused USD and Euro exchange rate, average gross pay in Slovenia for 2006 was 278 000 Tolars, and I 1 Euro = 240 Tolars, it comes average gross pay in Slovenia in 2006 (average) was 1160 Euros. I couldn't find NET, it is fair to assume average NET was about 800-820 Euros.

Data in - PDF format.


http://www.stat.si/doc/pub/slo_figures_06.pdf
http://www.stat.si/doc/pub/slo_figures_07.pdf

By the way, Verso, I don't think November salaries are a good example of average salaries in Slovenia. Because of Christmas rewards and stuff, they are always something like 10% above the actual average salary in a year. However year-on-year growth is pretty accurate.

Oh well, I was searching for GDP of Ljubljana, but I only found this, so I just used it like by the way. :lol: Of course I also took opportunity to boast in the EE subforum. :D

Hehe :D

:lol::nuts: lol


Anyways is Slovenia more expensive than Slovakia? Or even CZ?

Well, of course it is, isn't it logical? :)

Slovenia is pretty expensive for EE terms, although interestingly, cheaper than Croatia. I never really understood why goods in Croatia are more expensive than in Slovenia, though..

MBM is an economist and because of this I believe most of the things that he stated earlier.

While you on the other hand have just forecasted a salary growth of 45% in three years which is absolutely ridiculous.

And I actually laughed when you wrote about 'nationalistic connotations'. I mean, look at your post. Your enormous growth prediction is quite obveously nationalistically stimulated. Like MBM said, Croatia isn't Dubai.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Tnx for you support:):cheers:

whats with you and :lol:

As to your calculations, I really don't give a monkey's arse.
Your words have lost any meaning on these forums, you are way to political and everything you say has nationalistic connotations in it.

but you are wellcomed to look it up on Croatian websites and than do what you always do, yap yap and yap some more.

BTW Croatian pays are growing at 5-7% annually for past 10 years, and how did you get to 5500 in 2010, when pays are already 5135kuna is beyond me, PS, pays in October were also 5080 kuna.

As I said, average for 2008, 5250 kuna, and for 2009 5850 Kuna, I really don't care what you have to say about that. Go and yap about this to someone who cares, :ohno:

http://www.mfin.hr/
http://www.hnb.hr/eindex.htm

PS, average pay in Croatia in 2007 was 670 Euros, as to your statistics provide me with the links, bc I do not believe one word that comes out of your mouth, as a matter of fact, on these forums NO one believes one word you say.

Actually if I use made up data natrually I'd say things he said, but if you follow the links you'll find he didn't do his research well. 2007, 20008, 2009, 2010, - 45% is not that much when you spread average over 4 years. As to him being an economist, I doubt that, I can say all kinds of crap on forums, his behavior thus far only points in the opposite direction. As to the economist, once he has BSC next to his name, than he can be called an economist, BTW, I studied economics and International relations, so I know few things about economics and future forecasting, after all I did work for major investment bank here in London.

BTW my original forecasting for pays in Croatia was.

5200 - 2008
5500 - 2009
5850 - 2010

but than I looked at the research and revised my estimates.

Pays in Croatia AND Slovenia have increased much faster than the annual inflation rate.

In 2006 Average NET pay in Slovenia was 774 Euros, (232 000 Tolars) I'll have to check data published by Slovene National Bank, but say if it is 870 Euros now, this is an increase of 12.5% in less than 14 months or if we use this as our rate of growth- 42.85% over 4 year period.

MBM is saying 945 Euros, well that would mean in less than 14 months (December 2006 - February 2008) average pay in Slovenia increased by 22%, or 4 annual forecast of 84.48%. :nuts:

Slovenia is not Dubai either ;)

Dear Mic. Why do you bother explainig me if my posts are meaningles:nuts:

I think you are nationalistic. And please dont be offended im constatly laughing at your "numbers".
Slovenian avg salary in november (946€) was heavily influenced by 13th salary (so was Slovakian and Croatian).
Average salary for 2007 was around 845€, and annual growth was 7%.
So if this trend will continue avg salary will be 904€ for 2008, 967€ for 2009 and finally and 1034€ for 2010 .

And let me explain why I said Croatia is not Dubai (symbol of fast development). And again what i will write is not meant to offend someone and im NOT being nationalistic, and yes Slovenia has more or less same problems:

-Unemployment is still very high( instead of receiving funds from taxes, money goes to social transfers)
-Very high debt
-Very high nominal salaries compared to low nominal GDP and productivity
-High differences between regions
-disputes with all neigbours expect Hungary (both economical and border)
-expensive labour force compared to productivity rate
-a lot of educated people moved out of the country
-not member of EU and Nato

and no Croatia cant survive only with tourism.

This all will result in slowing of economic growth. Slovenia had higher economic growth in 2006 and 2007 altough Slovenian nominal (not PPP) GDP is 2x of Croatian.

And your new "forecast" for 2010 is probably more correct, altough I think Croatian avg salary will be a bit higher (because of inflation).

p.s.: My personal opinion about you:
You always desperatly try to show yourself as the smartest and important person on this forum. You were "bragging" how you were speaking with our defense minister, now you added "I did work for major investment bank here in London", you were warning me i will get banned, like you are some kind of moderator here (as far as I know only 3tmk , OettingerCroat and Edolen are), on the other hand you are being offensive towards me with "I really don't give a monkey's arse. "

And you really studied " I studied economics and International relations" ??
Common you dont even see difference between November and ordinary salaries. Your first "forecasts" were childish. I mean I can understand Sanader that he promised 50% higher salaries before elections:nuts:
And yes Im only economics student, but my father, mother, grandfather, grandmother all finished university studies about economics and business and if i dont know something i ask some of them about their opinion.And my father almost died from laughing when i showed him your post.
He recomends you to become politican:lol:

Tnx for you support:):cheers:





Dear Mic. Why do you bother explainig me if my posts are meaningles:nuts:

I think you are nationalistic. And please dont be offended im constatly laughing at your "numbers".
Slovenian avg salary in november (946€) was heavily influenced by 13th salary (so was Slovakian and Croatian).
Average salary for 2007 was around 845€, and annual growth was 7%.
So if this trend will continue avg salary will be 904€ for 2008, 967€ for 2009 and finally and 1034€ for 2010 .

And let me explain why I said Croatia is not Dubai (symbol of fast development). And again what i will write is not meant to offend someone and im NOT being nationalistic, and yes Slovenia has more or less same problems:

-Unemployment is still very high( instead of receiving funds from taxes, money goes to social transfers)
-Very high debt
-Very high nominal salaries compared to low nominal GDP and productivity
-High differences between regions
-disputes with all neigbours expect Hungary (both economical and border)
-expensive labour force compared to productivity rate
-a lot of educated people moved out of the country
-not member of EU and Nato

and no Croatia cant survive only with tourism.

This all will result in slowing of economic growth. Slovenia had higher economic growth in 2006 and 2007 altough Slovenian nominal (not PPP) GDP is 2x of Croatian.

And your new "forecast" for 2010 is probably more correct, altough I think Croatian avg salary will be a bit higher (because of inflation).

p.s.: My personal opinion about you:
You always desperatly try to show yourself as the smartest and important person on this forum. You were "bragging" how you were speaking with our defense minister, now you added "I did work for major investment bank here in London", you were warning me i will get banned, like you are some kind of moderator here (as far as I know only 3tmk , OettingerCroat and Edolen are), on the other hand you are being offensive towards me with "I really don't give a monkey's arse. "

And you really studied " I studied economics and International relations" ??
Common you dont even see difference between November and ordinary salaries. Your first "forecasts" were childish. I mean I can understand Sanader that he promised 50% higher salaries before elections:nuts:
And yes Im only economics student, but my father, mother, grandfather, grandmother all finished university studies about economics and business and if i dont know something i ask some of them about their opinion.And my father almost died from laughing when i showed him your post.
He recomends you to become politican:lol:

Hey, where did I say I spoke to defense minister of Slovenia. Perhaps you confuse defense ministry with the defense minster.

As to me working for major investment bank, I did work, I no longer work.
As to your ban, well you were talking shit and posting crap, being a total troll and nuisance; I mean ppl no longer take any notice what you say. As to your arguments, all are political, your hate of Croatia is quite clear, your hateful undertone towards all and everything Croatian is so evident someone has to tell you to your face.

You continue to provoke Croats in to some sort of argument that you can't possibly win but try to provoke so other Slovens can join you bashing Croats.

As to your dad, I really do not care what he thinks and says, or for that matter you.

Also...

Your racist remarks on DLM and your blunt racism is so evident, did you know if NAZI were still in charge, you'd be first to go to gas chamber, they hated Gays. Even now in Germany Neo-Nazis attack Gay clubs...

You are weirdest racist bigot I've ever came across.

Hey, where did I say I spoke to defense minister of Slovenia. Perhaps you confuse defense ministry with the defense minster.

As to me working for major investment bank, I did work, I no longer work.
As to your ban, well you were talking shit and posting crap, being a total troll and nuisance; I mean ppl no longer take any notice what you say. As to your arguments, all are political, your hate of Croatia is quite clear, your hateful undertone towards all and everything Croatian is so evident someone has to tell you to your face.

You continue to provoke Croats in to some sort of argument that you can't possibly win but try to provoke so other Slovens can join you bashing Croats.

As to your dad, I really do not care what he thinks and says, or for that matter you.

Also...

Your racist remarks on DLM and your blunt racism is so evident, did you know if NAZI were still in charge, you'd be first to go to gas chamber, they hated Gays. Even now in Germany Neo-Nazis attack Gay clubs...

You are weirdest racist bigot I've ever came across.

I dont hate Croats you little fool:lol: Why would I go to Croatia almost every year twice since I was born, and why if im such a Croat hater I have a lot of Croatian friends:nuts:
It is you who always pops in and talk about Croatia like its some kind of über heaven, so mostly my posts are just intented to tease you:lol::lol:
You just cant take negative critic about yourself and Croatia. And yes people take notice what I write, even you altough you wont admit it:lol:

And no im not gay:nuts:

You are weirdest racist bigot I've ever came across

Oh darling dont be such a frustrated Balkan-minded little girl:lol:

You continue to provoke Croats in to some sort of argument that you can't possibly win but try to provoke so other Slovens can join you bashing Croats.

Im not provoking Croatians:nuts: Cant you accept any other statements about Croatia except "lijepa vaša":nuts:
True Croats are not that closed-minded as you are.

Where does your nationalism come from? You cant even write in Croatian.
As a matter of fact even I probably "pišem i govorim Hrvatski nego ti" ("write and speak Croatian better than you" since you probably didnt understand).

p.s.: So what is your education and what is your job occupation if I may ask
p.s.: I just looooovveeee to tease you:)

Im not provoking Croatians:nuts: Cant you accept any other statements about Croatia except "lijepa vaša":nuts:
True Croats are not that closed-minded as you are.

Where does your nationalism come from? You cant even write in Croatian.
As a matter of fact even I probably "pišem i govorim Hrvatski nego ti" ("write and speak Croatian better than you" since you probably didnt understand).

p.s.: So what is your education and what is your job occupation if I may ask
p.s.: I just looooovveeee to tease you:)

Ja govorim hrvatski bolje nek ti, ti si gay, tak si rekal na forum what's your sexuality..

Ja govorim hrvatski bolje nek ti, ti si gay, tak si rekal na forum what's your sexuality..

hmmm i think "Ja govorim Hrvatski bolje nego ti, ti si gay , tako si rekao na forumu "Whats your sexuality" sounds more Croatian than what you wrote:lol:

Oh you little Croatian wannabe, I never said i was/am gay. Check forum again please:lol::cheers:

I dont hate Croats you little fool:lol: Why would I go to Croatia almost every year twice since I was born, and why if im such a Croat hater I have a lot of Croatian friends:nuts:
It is you who always pops in and talk about Croatia like its some kind of über heaven, so mostly my posts are just intented to tease you:lol::lol:
You just cant take negative critic about yourself and Croatia. And yes people take notice what I write, even you altough you wont admit it:lol:

And no im not gay:nuts:



Oh darling dont be such a frustrated Balkan-minded little girl:lol:

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