I reckon one of the three 200m+ scrapers Brisbane will get over next 3 years should provide a public viewing level!
I know Emerald will be far the tallest at 230m and RL248m but its too slender to have public access to its roof.
i reckon Riparian at 200m would be a better choice! For a start its a mixed use and has a vast public area at ground level also access by river. The roof top is large and its open plant area would be a nice spot just under the massive antenna!
200m up is a great height
maybe i should ring harrys and ask!lol
id pay to view growing brissy from up there!





Also Perths-Central Park roof top should also become public observatory!

There was apparently a proposal a couple of years ago to open an observation deck at the top of 111 George Street, however that proposal seems to have gone nowhere.

I think it would be a great idea to have one in Brisbane - every city should have one.

I would rather a observation tower built then to have a observation floor in a building. Ive been in both types and like the observation tower better.

I'm always afraid they will build a low observation deck and hence limit the height the CBD can grow (AKA Sydney Style).

I always wished they would build something in the vicinity of 285 metres (yeah, yeah dream on) on the MacArthur site...namely a rialto style observation deck/restaurants/clubs above a mixed use building.

IMHO Brisbane already has a defacto observation platform by way of the Kangaroo Point Cliffs (or Mt Cootha if you wish to venture that far).

But yeah, if they arent going to build one over 250m then it had better be on the edge of the CBD like Riparian, or maybe even Baroque.

To appreciate Brisbane you really have to get above it and an observation deck would be fantastic. The river is so massive as it cuts through the suburbs and is very spectacular from the air. Also you can see out to the islands and sand blowouts that make up Moreton and Stradbroke islands. Everything looks very "3D" from up there.

To the west are the craggy mountains and farmlands.

Mt Cootta observaton level is at 240m so thats pretty good.

jt

I reckon a well designed observation tower with the decks at about 275m would look brilliant! IMO every city should have an observation styled tower- they look so much more interesting that your average tower- they add a bit of diversity, and if they are talll enough to allow tall buildings to be built still, theres no reason why not.

Originally posted by Mr MacPhisto
I'm always afraid they will build a low observation deck and hence limit the height the CBD can grow (AKA Sydney Style).



The 235 metre height limit for Sydney has resulted for a number of reasons, none of which are associated with Centrepoint. These include:

*Tall Towers aren't appropriate for Sydney
*Overshadowing is a major concern particularly on parks.

But it would be nice if a major Brisbane tower were to open a floor as a viewing deck. It would make a nice tourist attraction for the city.

There was a proposal in 97/98 to built an observation tower on Mt Coot-tha with a glass floor deck, however, as with everything else that gets proposed for Brisbane there is a public outcry for the chance we might loose that big ol country town image. I think a sky needle built at Queens Plaza would be super cool!!!!

I must admit, I was surprised to see no observation deck in Riparian, particularly with all the publicity that project has recieved, and the amount of public space incorporated at ground level. From a developers view though, marketing a $7M penthouse, with a public observation deck above was probably not seen as the best amenity. However, if it was designed as another "layer" of building on top, with a gap between the units, like the gaps between the offices and carpark and units, then it would have been a great crown to the development (like Eureka).

I also thought they may propose a skydeck as part of Brisbane Square, being on the QSM and being a BCC building....

It would be nice for the highest buildings in all our cities to not just be for the very rich!

Originally posted by Fountainhead
It would be nice for the highest buildings in all our cities to not just be for the very rich [/B]

...or for big business or diplomatic organisations ie US Consol on top two floors of MLC Building.

i think that observation tower at mt coot-ha would have been like a black mountain tower in Canberra : the deck was only 70m above the mountain with all the tv towers incorporated into the tower above.

in my opinion mt coot-ha would be a pretty shithouse place for an observation deck ! they should put one in Roma St end of town .... see how Sky Tower really made Auckland I think a tower would really make Brisbane :) they could have a rainforest or greenery growing out of the tower the entire way up :) since we AREthe subtropical city i reckon that'd be kickass.... it'd almost become an ICON !
:baaa:

Too many plants on a building detract, think Brisbane Hilton - YUK! And that other building down Adelaide St near the police station, good grief!

If there is no chance of building a needle then a deck in a new scraper would be good, Emerald would be the go - if IT'S the go..

Originally posted by Fabian
The 235 metre height limit for Sydney has resulted for a number of reasons, none of which are associated with Centrepoint. These include:

*Tall Towers aren't appropriate for Sydney
*Overshadowing is a major concern particularly on parks.

But it would be nice if a major Brisbane tower were to open a floor as a viewing deck. It would make a nice tourist attraction for the city. Fair enough, but my fear remains that should a tower go in, it would innevitably be used as an excuse to limit the height of the CBD.
It either has to be tall, or on the edge of the CBD (ie Raparian, Queens Square, Baroque, Emerald etc..).

Originally posted by CULWULLA
I reckon one of the three 200m+ scrapers Brisbane will get over next 3 years should provide a public viewing level!
I know Emerald will be far the tallest at 230m and RL248m but its too slender to have public access to its roof.
i reckon Riparian at 200m would be a better choice! For a start its a mixed use and has a vast public area at ground level also access by river. The roof top is large and its open plant area would be a nice spot just under the massive antenna!
200m up is a great height
maybe i should ring harrys and ask!lol
id pay to view growing brissy from up there!





Also Perths-Central Park roof top should also become public observatory!
hey cul you have alot of connections in the building world mayby you can get sum one to put a deck on cp!!!!!!!

Yeah, i agree, Brissy needs a good, tall ob deck, in the CBD! maybe not a needle, but the best idea would probly be for one to go on Riparian:)

Originally posted by flyin_higher
Yeah, i agree, Brissy needs a good, tall ob deck, in the CBD! maybe not a needle, but the best idea would probly be for one to go on Riparian:)

I think a needle like sky tower would look awesome centred between Margaret St, the Botanical Gardens and the bend in the river. Sure, it would require demolishing some old residential units and building over that areas strick height limits but damn, what a sight it would be from the South East Freeway, Captain Cook Bridge, Kangaroo Pt Cliffs, Storey Bridge and even from the Gabba.

Anybody who goes to QUT will tell you how good the view over the cliffs at night from the top of L block is.
The view of the city is even better.

They would never put an observation deck on the Riparian. The residents would complain that the deck above them is too noisy.

Brisbane has natural decks like Kangaroo Point. Mt Gravatt or Mt Cootha.

Originally posted by nagelixin
They would never put an observation deck on the Riparian. The residents would complain that the deck above them is too noisy.

Brisbane has natural decks like Kangaroo Point. Mt Gravatt or Mt Cootha.

Auckland had Mt Rangitoto at 220m also, but that didn't stop anyone building SkyTower!:)

maybe they can alter the stephen needle to accomodate a small viewing platform at the top... sure its not in the cbd, but the view would still be amazing, .... also, i presume you would have to walk up all those steps, cause i doubt a lift would fit in it hehehe... just an idea.

As an ex-Canberran I love Telstra Tower. I was driving past The Gabba today and thought, that ugly Telstra building with the dishes on top must have an Awesome view from the top. A sky needle of some sought would have amazing views.

Brizzy does have an observation deck - in the Town Hall.
However its sort of irrelevant now that its surrounded by high rises.

According to a list of proposed developments in Brisbane that I saw, there is still a possibility that level 27 of 111 George Street will be converted to an observation deck.

I'll try and get some more info.

The CBD needs an observation deck, at least it would give tourists something to do for half a day in Brisbane!;) The Gold Coast will have one at the top of Q1 so I think a deck at the top of the new Austcorp tower would be great! That's a big parcel of land and I presume a big tower, and it's right in the middle of town and (hopefully) circa 80 stories tall, would have a great view from the top.

natural decks just dont feel the same as skyscraper decks!

Originally posted by duke
According to a list of proposed developments in Brisbane that I saw, there is still a possibility that level 27 of 111 George Street will be converted to an observation deck.

I'll try and get some more info.

This has now been officially cancelled - cost was "prohibitive" and I imagine security concerns would also have been a significant consideration.

Trying to incorporate an observation deck into an existing building is likely to be impossible. The best bet is to incorporate it at design stage which would mean that Australand would be the only possibility at present - so long as they actually build a 70 to 80 storey tower.

I would imagine that State or local government assistance would be required to make it viable as it needs separate lifts from the rest of the building.

If we really want it now is the time to start lobbying!

Originally posted by duke

I would imagine that State or local government assistance would be required to make it viable as it needs separate lifts from the rest of the building.

If we really want it now is the time to start lobbying!

lol. Pun intended? ;)

Let's not forget that only relatively recently the obsevation deck planned for Mt. Coot-tha was cancelled - however this was because of environmental concerns, so maybe there is actually some merit in attempts to get one built in the CBD.

I would say cost wise we would have to look at one in a building, most likely one on the way, not already built, as someone said, the 111 George street proposal was too expensive and difficult and the only good view would probably be of Southbank. Austcorps new proposal would be a good place (even tho it looks like only 50-60 stories now). However, keep in mind that this city couldn't even support an IMAX, I don't know how well an observation deck would go (considering as someone said we already have one in the city hall).

Still, ultimately I would like to see a purpose built observation tower much like in Sydney and other cities around the world. Preferably in the CBD somewhere.

Placing an observation deck at the 200m point on the Austcorp tower would make the following views available. Please excuse the average resolution of the renders. However I wanted to keep the 56K users happy.

I feel that a deck at this height is too low. It would be swallowed up too quickly - much like City Hall.

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~cainmail/mypic2.JPG

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~cainmail/mypic3.JPG

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~cainmail/mypic4.JPG

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~cainmail/mypic5.JPG

Compare those to what would have been the view from an observation deck in the cancelled Brisbane Central at a height of 440m above the ground.

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~cainmail/mypic6.JPG

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~cainmail/mypic7.JPG

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~cainmail/mypic8.JPG

Awesome Renders Brisbane2.

Decent views from that height at 200m, not really 'looking down' on all the towers, another 50m would be handy to get that 'tallest position' to be able to see over Aurora and Emerald I feel, but it's not bad.

Hmm... I wonder if the BCC plan to do something akin to Centrepoint with the Austcorp tower? I know it's supposed to be circa 200 from what Cull could find out, but I have a feeling they may permit a 250m building with an observation deck that will effectively cap the cbd heights like Centrepoint did?

Oh mi God! You're evil Brisbane 2, I didn't need to see that Brisbane Central observation deck render!

Now THAT is a view!

Brisbane Central, truly a God among insects, sniff, sniff, RIP.

Surprisingly, BC got approved by council and started construction. But a change of government had work stopped, the foundations for this giant instead became the foundations for the 8 (or 12) storey Minnicom or (whatever it's called) building.

Nowdays we get to fight with council over buildings 1/10th it's size;)

http://www.k26.com/bc2.jpg

http://www.k26.com/buildings/bc.jpg

Brizbane2, words can't describe your tallents.

Great renders!!!


:applause:

jt

Originally posted by CaptainJackSparrow
Oh mi God! You're evil Brisbane 2, I didn't need to see that Brisbane Central observation deck render!

Now THAT is a view!

Ditto! lol. I wish you hadn't got me thinking about that again hehe - but what can ya do... Frankly I'd be happy with any observation deck - but I refer once again to my previous post in this thread.

wow! its been 9 months since last post and our wishes are granted!!!
looks like you were right bris2!
heres the pic you posted in Dec/2003 showing Visions ob deck at 200m high.shouldnt we see top of Riparian though?

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~cainmail/mypic2.JPG

what height is vision block here? pretty close to 250m
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~cainmail/mypic7.JPG

has anyone ever been to the Mt Cootha restaurant?. i just spoke to a guy there and he said the restaurant sits at 228m above sea level.
http://brisbane.citysearch.com.au/E/V/BRISB/0026/16/67/49.jpg
So Vision will be higher than mt Cootha but its deck will be some 20m lower.
Does it seem high from up there?

I have been there, years ago, took a girl there on a date, and it was expensive, but worth the money ;)