View Full Version : Nokia: Good bye Bochum, Hello Cluj!


Klausenburg
February 21st, 2008, 02:28 AM
Many campanies are leaving Germany due to increasing influence of unions, rigid labour laws, and high costs of workforce. In the mean time east european countries become more and more dynamic and powerfull, due to liberal labour laws, skilled workforce, and cheap costs.
Let's discuss about the changes brought into Europe by the globalization.

Klausenburg
February 21st, 2008, 02:30 AM
http://www.zf.ro/articol_161813/how_nokia_turned_jucu_into_a_foreign_investment_hub.html

How Nokia turned Jucu into a foreign investment hub

Autor: Anca Enoiu Data: 20-02-2008


Hundreds of apartments under construction, an urban highway, several foreign companies in full recruitment drive, as well as the attention of the international press.

For the almost 4,000 inhabitants of Jucu, near Cluj, Nokia's arrival heralds the start of a new era in the village.

To reach the Nokia plant by public transport workers take the no. 51 bus on route to Cluj-Apahida, and then transfer to a special shuttle bus that "goes to Nokia". Signs of development are visible on route; new blocks and houses are under construction, road works are taking place, not to mention the noticeable appearance of the famous "Nokia" sign.

As a result of Nokia's interest in the area, villagers have now become shrewd landowners. A rough estimate reveals that it costs almost 170,000 euros to buy a property in a village that was virtually unknown almost a year ago.

The Nokia plant's cleaning, security and manufacturing workers receive gross salaries that range between 800 and 900 RON (around 200-300 euros), as well as a hot meal and luncheon vouchers. The Finnish group recruited its workers quite easily, after a fair, organised last year, saw the number of interested candidates exceed 8,000, way above organisers' estimates.

Many villagers are aware that the new plant has left "thousands of Germans" without work, but for them the plant has brought the possibility of working "at home".

Nokia officials announced that the first assembly line was launched with 350 employees, who receive salaries correlated to the local labour market plus a benefits package.

The representatives of trade union Cartel Alfa Cluj have stated that in approximately 2 weeks an employees' trade union will be created and negotiations will start for a collective employment contract.

When the Jucu investment is complete approximately 3,500 employees will work at the Nokia plant.

By the end of this year, Nokia Romania estimates to have 1,200 employees working on its assembly line and 100 in managerial positions. Nokia will start production with one shift and introduce two shifts in March.

According to Nokia officials, the mobile phones assembled in Jucu, which start stock production next week, will go to markets in Europe, the Middle East, and Africa, in addition to Romania.

Nokia officials say the model made in Romania is the 1200 series, which retails for approximately 30 euros.

Nokia will invest 60m euros in the construction of the plant in the Nokia Village park, which is located 20 km away from Cluj-Napoca.

Ultimately, overall investments are expected to exceed 200m euros.

Nokia in Jucu

For the almost 4,000 inhabitants of Jucu, near Cluj, Nokia's arrival heralds the start of a new era in the village.

Nokia officials announced that the first assembly line was launched with 350 employees, who receive salaries correlated to the local labour market plus a benefits package

When the Jucu investment is completed approximately 3,500 employees will work at the plant.


Sursa: www.zf.ro/articol_161813

Klausenburg
February 21st, 2008, 02:35 AM
http://www.ziuadecj.ro/action/article?ID=9212

A new highway will be built between Transylvania Highway and the town of Dej, crossing through Nokia plant in Jucu. It will have 75 Km, and will cost ~8 milion euros for each Km. It will begin in Gilau, will be linked with Transylvania Highway at Luna Interchange, will saround Cluj-Napoca by South, will pass near Cluj International Airport, and will continue towards Jucu and finaly Dej. The construction will start in April.


Lucrările la “autostrada Nokia” încep în aprilie

Lucrările la autostrada urbană Gilău-Jucu (cu extindere spre Dej) vor începe la finele lunii aprilie, au declarat pentru ZIUA de Cluj surse din administraţie. În total, autostrada va măsura 75 de kilometri. Costurile au fost evaluate la peste opt milioane de euro pe kilometru. Lucrarea va începe de la nodul rutier din localitatea Jucu.
Compania Naţională de Autostrăzi şi Drumuri Naţionale din România (CNADNR) pregăteşte deja licitaţia pentru atribuirea lucrării de execuţie a autostrăzii urbane, au precizat surse din administraţie. Şi arhitectul judeţului, Radu Spânu, a confirmat că aprilie este termenul la care a fost programată începerea lucrărilor.

“Conform proiectului, lucrarea va debuta spre finele lui aprilie, începând de la nodul denivelat din localitatea Jucu”, a precizat arhitectul. Acesta a explicat că reprezentanţii companiei de proiectare Iptana trebuie să finalizeze studiul de fezabilitate până în martie, urmând ca mai apoi CNADNR să poată organiza licitaţia pentru execuţia lucrării.

Trebuie reamintit că autostrada urbană Gilău – Jucu măsura, în proiectul iniţial, peste 40 de kilometri, iar preţul de realizare a fost estimat la aproximativ 370.000.000 de euro.

Ulterior, s-a decis prelungirea autostrăzii spre Dej cu 35 de kilometri, costurile devenind aproape duble. Autostrada ar urma să se desfăşoare pe patru benzi. Porneşte din comuna Gilău, se intersectează cu nodul denivelat de drumuri de la capătul sudic al comunei Luna şi coboară dealurile până la sud de localitatea Floreşti, în zona unităţii militare.

Traseul parcurge mai departe zona Floreşti până la Cetatea Fetei. Apoi se îndreaptă spre municipiul Cluj-Napoca, prin Făget, în paralel cu centura ocolitoare a Primăriei – tronsonul sud. De aici, drumul ajunge în zona străzilor Câmpului şi E. Ionescu, intră pe strada C. Brâncuşi, H. Coandă şi zona Selgros.

Traversează Băile Someşeni şi intră în zona de locuinţe până la capătul pistei de aterizare-decolare a aeroportului, unde se întretaie cu intersecţia denivelată DN1C (Aurel Vlaicu, Traian Vuia). Ocoleşte apoi localităţile Sânicoară şi Apahida şi continuă prin Jucu spre Dej.


SOURCE: Ziua de Cluj

joce23
February 21st, 2008, 09:10 AM
^^
Mercedes tempted to choose Romania for a new factory
http://english.hotnews.ro/stiri-business-2337537-mercedes_tempted_choose_romania_over_poland_for_new_factory.htm

Mercedes Benz is tempted to choose Romania over Poland to build a new factory focused on A and B Klasse models, company sources say, quoted by Automotive News. The new versions of the A Klasse and B Klasse models should hit the market by 2011 and thus a decision regarding a new factory needs to be taken as soon as possible.

Automotive News reads that the Germans might choose Tetarom III industrial park in Jucu, Cluj where Nokia has relocated, but the website argues that contradictions about about the future annual production capacity of the plant.

While in Romania some speak of 350,000 units annually, Mercedes circles speak of 70-100,000 units annually, Automotive News says.

It quotes a company source according to which the balance favors Romania and all managers were treating the issue very seriously.

Mercedes wants to build cars in Eastern Europe given the lower labor costs in these countries. Romania has an important advantage from this point of view with an average of 3,23 euro/hour, as compared to 6 euro in Poland and 42 euro in Germany. Still, Poland has a better developed infrastructure and logistical costs would be lower there than in Romania.

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What about this ^^? Does it mean they will have to close something in Germany ?

Well, I think the globalization has some advantages for us (romanians) but not always for germans. I`m sure the most part of the germans have opposite feelings with respect to EU, globalization etc. . Am I right?

nebunul
February 21st, 2008, 12:09 PM
das ist gud ... JaJaJa :cheers:

Energy2003
February 21st, 2008, 01:15 PM
a lot of countries won´t be funny about that all.

why should any invest in austria, germany, hungary, slovakia, ... when you can have romania and bulgaria. but for luck it´s not my thing cause i try to have as much money as possible for myself


the only advantage for the EU itself is that the money stays "in" the EU

Tyron
February 21st, 2008, 05:29 PM
Nothing special! That's the normal way of capitalism. In some years the poor buggers in the plant will suddenly recognize, that they are no longer satisfied with their 800 Lei salary and begin to fight for more social justice, higher wages etcetera. Profit is the bottom line of companys like Nokia and profit comes from unpaid or ill-paid wages rather than from the sale of the product. That's the reason why companies displace there production to countries of minimum income in eastern europe, whereas highly paid jobs with added value remain in the western parts.

pflo777
February 22nd, 2008, 04:45 AM
as soon as production costs rose above a certain level in Romania or Bulgaria, these factories will be closed down and shifted to the next cheap labour country.

And believe me, there are enough countries on this planet.

Maybe in the not to distant future, our cars and mobile phones will come from sudon or nigeria.

Max BGF
February 23rd, 2008, 12:06 AM
Amazing there are many Far East Asians working in Romania though.

And believe me, there are enough countries on this planet.Too many, indeed.

Maybe in the not to distant future, our cars and mobile phones will come from sudon or nigeria.Will there be special cleaning against HIV?

Tysklandsplikt
February 23rd, 2008, 12:12 AM
Damn antigerman proromanian finnish!
Finnnish them all right away! :bash:

Kampflamm
March 2nd, 2008, 01:58 AM
Wer hat die Leute in unser Forum gelassen?

Ludis_Multi
March 2nd, 2008, 01:10 PM
Erbse weigert sich solchen Leuten Verwarnungen zu stecken :ohno:

Mercedes S600
March 3rd, 2008, 03:34 PM
Es hasse es, wenn Fremde hier mitmischen. Haben die keinen eigenen Biere, um die sie sich kümmern können? Müssen die uns auf die Säcke gehen?

savas
March 3rd, 2008, 04:19 PM
Ein bißchen schade, dass das deutsche Forum recht unfreundlich "Fremden" gegenüber ist. Ich habe und erlebe Deutschland immer noch (beruflich) als ein sehr freundliches Land mit zum größten Teil herzlichen Menschen. Hier wird aber leider das Klischee des unterkülten Deutschen ziemlich gut bestätigt.

Das mit NOKIA ist tatsächlich eine große Schweinerei. Ich persönlich habe bereits mit solchen Entscheidungen Erfahrungen gemacht. Vor ca. 12 Jahren musste mein Vater in Griechenland Konkurs melden nachdem Maxmara (ein französisches Modelabel) seine Produktion nach Bulgarien verlagert hat. So musste er sein Unternehmen schliessen und 72 Frauen entlassen die er bereits 11 Jahre beschäftigt hatte. Eine sehr schwierige Zeit für unsere Familie aber vorallem für diese Frauen. Die meisten waren bereits über 40 und ohne Ausbildung oder Studiumanschluß.

Solche Geschichten gibt es im Mittelstand mehr als genug. In Griechenland genauso wie in Deutschland. Nur bekommen wir diese nicht mit denn es wird darüber nicht berichtet.

Was ich persönlich etwas seltsam finde ist die Tatsache dass die Medien aber auch die Menschen sich sehr gerne an diesem NOKIA Fall versteifen. Wahrscheinlich weil es ein ausländisches Unternehmen ist. Gleichzeitig entlassen deutsche Unternehmen bei weitem mehr Arbeitnehmer. Die Telekom streicht 8000 Stellen (bin mir da über die Zahl nicht sicher), SIEMENS und BMW jeweils an die 3000 Stellen. Wieso ist das weniger schlimm oder weniger attraktiv für die Medien? Das verstehe ich nicht.

Kampflamm
March 3rd, 2008, 04:31 PM
Na ja, wenn die Rumänen in unser Forum kommen und hier auf dicke Hose machen nur weil Nokia umgezogen ist, dann muss man die ja wohl nicht auch noch willkommen heißen.

Energy2003
March 3rd, 2008, 04:31 PM
ich glaube da gehts bei Nokia mehr um die Subventionen die sie erhalten haben.

bei BMW wird daraum nicht "allzu" tragisch sein, da sie nach wie vor über 80.000 Leute in BRD beschäftigen. und es sind bedeutend mehr als die 3000 o.g.

Schnurri
March 25th, 2008, 12:29 AM
I love romanian car test!

Eins können die Rumänen besser als wir! Automagazine!
http://www.promotor.ro/tags/pictorial
http://storage0.dms.mpinteractiv.ro/media/2/41/4157/949252/2/roxana.jpg?width=700&height=500

Kampflamm
July 11th, 2008, 07:22 PM
Dafür gesperrt! Gegen Stadionverbote!

Max BGF
July 12th, 2008, 11:46 AM
Motorräder und nackige Frauen sind immer noch der beste Grund, ein Automagazin zu kaufen. Nicht jeder besitzt meinen Mut, am Kiosk offen nach der Praline zu fragen.

Ein bißchen schade, dass das deutsche Forum recht unfreundlich "Fremden" gegenüber ist.Empfinde ich bisweilen ebenso. Wirklich schade, weil gerade die hier mit beitragenden Ausländer ihr Interesse an Deutschland oder zumindest deutschen Themen zeigen und deren Perspektive durchaus multikulturell bereichernd sein kann.

Was ich persönlich etwas seltsam finde ist die Tatsache dass die Medien aber auch die Menschen sich sehr gerne an diesem NOKIA Fall versteifen. Wahrscheinlich weil es ein ausländisches Unternehmen ist.Gibt hier im Forum zum Fall Nokia einen sehr sachlichen, ausgewogenen Thread, ohne den Tenor des linken Wirtschaftsnationalismus.

NellyUSA
November 9th, 2008, 05:49 PM
astia nu stiu engleza? :lol:

Mercedes S600
November 9th, 2008, 06:02 PM
^^Ja, natürlich.

Max BGF
November 9th, 2008, 06:08 PM
Jäss offkors

nadgobxe
September 29th, 2011, 10:55 AM
Nokia closes down Romanian factory until end-2011 in restructuring move
BUSINESS, FEATURED | CORINA SACEANU | SEPTEMBER 29, 2011 AT 10:33 AM

Nokia’s factory in Jucu, near the Romanian city of Cluj, will be closed down until the end of this year, according an official statement released by the company. Nokia will “focus its feature phone manufacturing on those locations with optimal proximity to suppliers and key markets. As a result, Nokia plans to close its manufacturing facility in Cluj, Romania by the end of 2011, as Nokia’s high-volume Asian factories provide greater scale and proximity benefits,” according to the company.
The planned closure of the Cluj factory combined with adjustments to supply chain operations is estimated to impact approximately 2,200 employees. “The planned changes in the Location & Commerce business are estimated to impact approximately 1,300 employees. These personnel reductions are in addition to the measures announced in April and are expected to take effect by the end of 2012,” Nokia has said. Nokia will offer employees affected by the planned reductions a comprehensive support program, it further said.
Romania is not the only country affected by the move. “Nokia plans to concentrate its Location & Commerce development efforts in Berlin, Boston, Chicago and other supporting sites, and plans to close its operations in Bonn, Germany and Malvern, US,” the company went on. The full press release here.
Nokia’s employees in Jucu have been summoned for a meeting on Thursday morning with some Nokia Europe managers. Several suppliers have also been announced to stop delivering materials to the factory for a couple of days.
Nokia closed down its research and development center in Cluj earlier this year and laid off 120 employees.
Nokia opened its factory in Romania in 2008, after seven months of works on building the factory. The factory opening in Romania was met with protests from workers in the Nokia factory in Bochum, who had seen their work cut due to the relocation.
Nokia Romania ranks 4th in the top of companies in Romania based on their 2010 turnover. Nokia managed to achieved sales of EUR 1.6 billion in Romania last year, up 56 percent on the year before. With 1,552 employees, Nokia posted a profit of EUR 43 million last year in Romania, according to data from the Finance Ministry. The year before, its profit was of EUR 38 million.
Corina Saceanu, corina@romania-insider.com
(photo source: Sxc.hu)

il fenomeno
September 29th, 2011, 12:25 PM
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45422000/jpg/_45422785_locust.jpg??

erbse
September 29th, 2011, 01:08 PM
:lol:



Exactly my thoughts. If you give a shit about Europe, Europe gives a shit about you, Nokia.

miau
October 1st, 2011, 10:10 AM
Auf Wiedersehen Cluj.

il fenomeno
October 1st, 2011, 01:03 PM
Many campanies are leaving Germany due to increasing influence of unions, rigid labour laws, and high costs of workforce. In the mean time east european countries become more and more dynamic and powerfull, due to liberal labour laws, skilled workforce, and cheap costs.
Let's discuss about the changes brought into Europe by the globalization.

kann klausenburg nochmal vorbei schauen? jetzt können wir auch die "changes brought by globalisiation" diskutieren, wie er wollte.

HAHAHA wer zuletzt lacht.

Kampflamm
October 1st, 2011, 04:12 PM
http://www.gifbin.com/bin/052009/1243271414_black_guy_laughing.gif

Cine râde la urmă, râde mai bine! http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss290/wtflchat/middle_finger_smiley_by_felladatimb.gif

miau
October 1st, 2011, 08:08 PM
Es ist ja sogar so, dass die Industrie in Deutschland weiterhin kräftig investiert. Davon zu reden, dass viele Firmen Deutschland den Rücken gekehrt haben, war und ist einfach nicht wahr.

derzberb
October 8th, 2011, 11:20 AM
mai bine!



ich glaube, das ist nur der Komparativ

müßte heißen: cel mai bine