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View Full Version : BUCHAREST - Lia Manoliu Arena (55,000) cornel001 September 7th, 2011, 01:03 AM better one : 2gIF2RPT5Hw jeleu September 7th, 2011, 08:04 AM Better: RGVpr7i82W0&hd z0cKozE_oL4 iuli September 7th, 2011, 10:22 AM Now can move this topic on "completed"? ElvisBC September 7th, 2011, 11:28 AM the turf looks awful http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/952/facepalmf.gif That's quite common in new stadiums. they either have to learn how to lay turf, or they did it a day before :ohno: alterego0113 September 7th, 2011, 11:48 AM Now can move this topic on "completed"? I agree with your question. There is no reason to keep this thread here. alexandru.mircea September 7th, 2011, 01:20 PM Did you guys film with your mobile phones? I read that proper photo cameras were banned. cornel001 September 7th, 2011, 02:30 PM Only professional ones. Compact cameras allowed. Kampflamm September 7th, 2011, 03:08 PM Is Schalke now gonna play there or not? jeleu September 7th, 2011, 03:11 PM Yes, Schalke will play on National Arena againt Steaua. Aka September 7th, 2011, 04:37 PM they either have to learn how to lay turf, or they did it a day before :ohno: You should've seen Alvalade, Dragćo, Leiria, even Luz... SubZ3r0 September 7th, 2011, 06:05 PM They are changing completely the turf untill the match Steaua - Shalke. This time they will bring the turf from Netherlands and it will be ready for playing the next day. DocentX September 7th, 2011, 08:59 PM I've heard there were huge problems with the pitch SubZ3r0 September 7th, 2011, 09:13 PM indeed, that's why they're changing it completely till the next match Gombos September 8th, 2011, 01:12 AM http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/300982_10150306790494379_284064129378_7673917_2055726473_n.jpg and a panoramic image of the stadium: http://www.gsp.ro/fotbal/nationala/n-ai-fost-aseara-pe-national-arena-aici-ai-o-imagine-panoramica-a-stadionului-260406.html Gombos September 8th, 2011, 01:21 AM http://onlinesport.ro/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=49659&d=1315331925 http://www.jurnalul.ro/usr/thumbs//imagini/2011/09/06/thumb_640_x_480/183879-raed-krishan-gsp-rk-13474.jpg http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Photo/competitions/Final/01/67/42/08/1674208_w2.jpg http://www.jurnalul.ro/usr/thumbs//imagini/2011/09/06/thumb_640_x_480/183880-raed-krishan-gsp-rk-13476.jpg http://storage0.dms.mpinteractiv.ro/media/1/186/3927/8707993/1/teren.jpg?width=640 http://www.adevarul.ro/bbtcontent/clipping/ADVIMA20110907_0658/1.jpg http://www.sport365.ro/files/news/image/thumbnails/bd692605a935fbedd97fdb5e6c50f31a.jpg http://www.sport365.ro/files/news/image/thumbnails/11c1981c2fe33f8ccfd261704e75341b.jpg PaulFCB September 8th, 2011, 02:48 AM I've heard there were huge problems with the pitch Typical Romanian problems, it's the same company owned by a political figure that took care of the grass at a Romania-Denmark game in 2003 when they played the game on a sandy beach on the old National Stadium. lukas75 September 8th, 2011, 11:52 AM I saw live the game and here are the conclussion: 1. The stadium has a fantastic sound when 50-55.000 people sing or chear the favourit team ........ 2. The view from the second ring (second tribune) is great ..... i saw people from first ring who cry for their money .... sometimes the view is better on third ring then the first specially when you have bad positioning places ........... 3. The sound whas great despite some mistakes of the people who speek in to the microphones ......... 4. I enter the stadium to 19.000 pm (the game start 21.30) , it took 20 sec to enter the stadium (5 sec to pass the gates) and seat on my places and 20 sec to exit the stadium .............. (i have to go upstairs in my sector) ....... 5. The commerce stands are very busy (cola, water, pop corn chips and non alcohol beer ) .... but are plenty (15-20 to each level) .... it took 10-15 minutes to be served when is crowed ....... 6. The toillets are ok and plenty but is no ventilation inside (this is a big mistake ), you enter a sauna here .......... 7. The view of the stadium form far away is fantastic .... it looks big time .from every angle .......... 8. The access to the stadium is very ok i take a cab who take me next to enter ( 500 m far from the entrence) and you walked to the stadium ....... when i leave was a problem because you must go far from the stadium 2 km to find a cab or call one ....... 8. Inside the stadium you dont see if they are 5000 or 55000 people on their seats , only if you look very closed because the colour scheme make impossible to see how many seats are busy ......... THE GRASS will be replaced and that`s it we live with the shame ..........nobody is perfect :) UrsuRO September 8th, 2011, 05:56 PM I think now it can be moved to completed stadiums. SubZ3r0 September 8th, 2011, 05:58 PM no it can't the pitch is being replaced . Wait untill then please cornel001 September 8th, 2011, 09:02 PM It will be U/C forever. ja.centy September 8th, 2011, 09:15 PM Beautiful stadium, well done Romania! I've heard there were huge problems with the pitch I'm no expert, but it probably wouldn't be something terribly unusual for new stadiums. As far as I recall, the turf in Poznań/Poland had to be replaced twice. alterego0113 September 8th, 2011, 09:27 PM http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-oJT085X8PvM/TmddxjFy_nI/AAAAAAAACI4/kOiaVeGWO58/s320/cartita1.jpg http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rOp7lamZrcs/Tmddv2lEHOI/AAAAAAAACI0/1GnFzIpTdmo/s320/evracartite.jpg :lol::lol::lol: 11eleven September 8th, 2011, 11:52 PM I'm no expert, but it probably wouldn't be something terribly unusual for new stadiums. As far as I recall, the turf in Poznań/Poland had to be replaced twice. Twice!? They have changed the turf 5 times since opened the stadium in 2010 :lol: Almost every new stadium has problem with the turf. Best solutions is moving out-in system with stadium turf like Schalke has, or blind-system roof (Alianz Arena), eventually full glass filled roof(Old Trafford) In Warsaw we have twine look National Stadium Poland which is going to use the panel turf :lol: I don't believe that will works, but We'll see what`ll happen. Sry for my rusty English ;) SoroushPersepolisi September 9th, 2011, 02:20 AM great stadium, the view seems great as so the atmosphere :) MuitoObrigado September 9th, 2011, 04:28 AM It will be U/C forever. http://i.imgur.com/JQuEM.jpg Kampflamm September 9th, 2011, 12:47 PM Steaua v Schalke has been moved to Cluj because of the pitch. :| Nikodem September 9th, 2011, 02:59 PM Is there a guest sector on this stadium? What capacity? I wonder how many tickets can Legia Warsaw fans get for their match Rapid Bc-Legia on Europa League. More than 3000? Gombos September 9th, 2011, 05:42 PM Is there a guest sector on this stadium? What capacity? I wonder how many tickets can Legia Warsaw fans get for their match Rapid Bc-Legia on Europa League. More than 3000? of course there is a guest sector. :) there is on all stadiums and 5-10% of the tickets will go to the visitors! Cristian G. September 9th, 2011, 07:48 PM Twice!? They have changed the turf 5 times since opened the stadium in 2010 :lol: Almost every new stadium has problem with the turf. Best solutions is moving out-in system with stadium turf like Schalke has, or blind-system roof (Alianz Arena), eventually full glass filled roof(Old Trafford) In Warsaw we have twine look National Stadium Poland which is going to use the panel turf :lol: I don't believe that will works, but We'll see what`ll happen. Sry for my rusty English ;) The problem is that the National Arena was inaugurated in an official game, not in a friendly one, like it had to be. So the Romanian Football Association is in a big trouble (I call it "SHIT"). How comes that nobody, but absolutely nobody from the footbal federation tested the pitch a few days before the game against France! It only happens in Romania such a big fucking shit! All the Romanian authorities being involved in building the stadium should get fucked in the ass! Mircea Sandu, the fucking Mitica Dragomir, the son of a fuckin' whore Oprishan and many others should get fucked first of all! :bash: AnOldBlackMarble September 9th, 2011, 09:14 PM It will be U/C forever. That's called maintenance. If you want any human-made structure to stay fresh and functional it has to be maintained EVERY SINGLE DAY! Abandon any building even for six months and you will immediately see it deteriorate. And after several years of use if you want to keep it looking as good as new parts of the structure have to be stripped, thorn down, and rebuilt. It's just the way it is. Erosion over time happens everywhere not just in Romania. The problem is that the National Arena was inaugarated in an official game, not in a friendly one, like it had to be. So the Romanian Football Association is in a big trouble (I call it "SHIT"). How comes that nobody, but absolutely nobody from the footbal federation tested the pitch a few days before the game against France! It only happens in Romania such a big fucking shit! All the Romanian authorities being involved in building the stadium should get fucked in the ass! Mircea Sandu, the fucking Mitica Dragomir, the son of a fuckin' whore Oprishan and many others should get fucked first of all! :bash: I'm no gardener but I know here in the US after building a home and installing the front lawn(pitch) home owners are advised to water it heavily and NOT step on it AT ALL for at least the first two weeks and up to a month. The fresh pitch has to settle into the earth beneath it, and the roots need time to anchor the new layer into the ground underneath. Heavy watering helps that process and of course that means you CAN'T walk on it because water saturated top soil is more fragile. I assume the same logic applies even to a football pitch. Nature simply needs time for the roots to grow and the earth and clay to compact. Clearly this pitch did not have enough time to settle and properly integrate with the earth beneath it. Like I said, I'm not a garner and I'm sure most of you are not either, but to all those complaining, cursing, bitching, and whining... seriously people, you have to use some common sense.:bash: You don't have to be a gardener to understand some basic principles of reality. You don't plant a seed today and expect fruit from that tree tomorrow. If those are your expectations than you will FOREVER be miserable because that is not how reality works. Then on top of that throwing stones at a problem isn't going to fix it. You have to stop, think, and reason it out :cheers: and if that is difficult because if you've got anger issues(like I do) join a boxing gym(like I have) and burn that energy in a constructive way(it works). What's the use of screaming at the internet:nuts: lukas75 September 9th, 2011, 10:54 PM of course there is a guest sector. :) there is on all stadiums and 5-10% of the tickets will go to the visitors! gombos you dont see the stadium from inside ? you can walk on every sector inside him ....... of course when you are allready in so when steaua /national team etc. will play a game with 20.000 spectators you can change your place all ever you want ..... just not disturb another spectators .......... the france fans were in a small area (2 sectors) on the right of the official tribune on the second ring beside romanian fans .... i dont know how they manage with polish /english / german spectators who are more turbulents......... because in national arena is no delimitation inside the stadium for the sectors (i mean no fence) .... Another problem was those 4 cubs who are not worked at full capacity .... just a static image of the players and a power point presentation of the stadium .......... is no karaoke on the national anthem .... no replay of the moments during the game .... those cubs behived like normal / regular score table .......... Gombos September 10th, 2011, 01:49 AM it was resolved the problem. the pitch will be replaced and company is not Dutch, but British. the guys from STRI (Sports Turf Research Institute) will install it and they will also bring some system for artificial light. STRI installed the grass at all 10 stadiums from South Africa and also at Milenium Arena from Cardiff. in maximum 2 weeks there will be play again on National Arena... meanwhile, Steaua-Schalke will not be postponed but moved on CFR's stadium from Cluj-Napoca! http://www.stri.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Millenium-Stadium-Cardiff-570x427.jpg the light level surveys undertaken using their world-renowned shade mapping tool in Cardiff the Donbass Arena from Donetsk also had the same problem as in Bucharest and STRI managed the redevelopment of the Shakhtar's pitch to bring it up to international standards. El Doctore September 10th, 2011, 11:39 AM The Mayor is conducting a survey for the new pitch on the National Stadium. Vote now please: http://www.trombon.ro/sport/variante-de-gazon-pentru-arena-nationala Cristian G. September 10th, 2011, 12:01 PM The Mayor is conducting a survey for the new pitch on the National Stadium. Vote now please: http://www.trombon.ro/sport/variante-de-gazon-pentru-arena-nationala :lol::lol::lol: I'd send Mircea Sandu & Mitika Dragomir (hand in hand, like schoolboys!!!) to test the pitch in the "Taliban Pitch" version! We'll need no more burial ceremonies for the two fuckin' sons of whores! Let them rest in pieces! UrsuRO September 10th, 2011, 01:42 PM :lol::lol::lol: I'd send Mircea Sandu & Mitika Dragomir (hand in hand, like schoolboys!!!) to test the pitch in the "Taliban Pitch" version! We'll need no more burial ceremonies tor the two fuckin' sons of whores! Let them rest in pieces! Amin to that Freedom for supporters! El Doctore September 10th, 2011, 03:50 PM Both retards deserve that for destroying the Romanian football... gmacruyff September 10th, 2011, 11:17 PM Unbelievable,they have switched the Schalke game to CLUJ.??????.Is there nothing available in Bucharest.? Cristian G. September 11th, 2011, 08:02 AM Unbelievable,they have switched the Schalke game to CLUJ.??????.Is there nothing available in Bucharest.? Except for National Arena, all other stadiums are ruins! :ohno: lukas75 September 11th, 2011, 10:00 AM was dinamo stadium but they dont want to play there andhe has a capacity of 12-15000 places.... too small.... after the performance last night (0-3 with gaz metan) i expect like a 0-5 with shalke ...... Cristian G. September 11th, 2011, 10:13 AM was dinamo stadium but they dont want to play there andhe has a capacity of 12-15000 places.... too small.... after the performance last night (0-3 with gaz metan) i expect like a 0-5 with shalke ...... :lol: Are U kiddin', man? You'll see Steaua Bucharest play on Dinamo's ground when Tom & Jerry (from the Cartoon) will be friends! NEVER EVER IN THIS LIFE! lukas75 September 11th, 2011, 08:42 PM everybody who sow JUVE - PARMA on the new JUVE ARENA sow appalling condition of the lawn.......was sand on half of the pitch ..... that`s a problem on every pitch because nobody has the time to wait 3-4 months for the grass to get well done ....... lukas75 September 11th, 2011, 08:43 PM :lol: Are U kiddin', man? You'll see Steaua Bucharest play on Dinamo's ground when Tom & Jerry (from the Cartoon) will be friends! NEVER EVER IN THIS LIFE! si eu ce drac am scris...? stii engleza macar? Cristian G. September 11th, 2011, 09:08 PM was dinamo stadium but they dont want to play there and he has a capacity of 12-15000 places.... too small.... after the performance last night (0-3 with gaz metan) i expect like a 0-5 with shalke ...... Da' tu te pomenesti ca stii! Cand te referi la un obiect (de exemplu "stadium") nu folosesti "he", ci "it". Hai ca n-am acum chef de cearta, OK? UrsuRO September 12th, 2011, 10:08 AM Speak in english you sheeps. Pestalotiu September 12th, 2011, 11:17 AM ^^ :rofl: :troll: PaulFCB September 12th, 2011, 11:24 AM was dinamo stadium but they dont want to play there andhe has a capacity of 12-15000 places.... too small.... after the performance last night (0-3 with gaz metan) i expect like a 0-5 with shalke ...... After Gaz Metan 03 comes Schalke 04. :lol: And the thing is not that the stadiums are ruins, Steaua can easily play in any phase of the Europa League at home in Ghencea, they just don't want to pay the debts to the Ministry of Defense ( that owns the ground as they owned the club before its privatization ). Same thing goes for Rapid and Ministry of Transport. kamadeva September 12th, 2011, 12:35 PM After Gaz Metan 03 comes Schalke 04. :lol: And the thing is not that the stadiums are ruins, Steaua can easily play in any phase of the Europa League at home in Ghencea, they just don't want to pay the debts to the Ministry of Defense ( that owns the ground as they owned the club before its privatization ). Same thing goes for Rapid and Ministry of Transport. They can't play in Ghencea since the grass has withered away; last time i saw a pic the pitch was yellow-brown.Becali can always buy a new one but he won't, not just for a game. Cluj-Napoca is a good choice for the game with Schalke 04. Piatra-Neamt would be a good choice too. TatalLor September 12th, 2011, 04:13 PM Piatra-Neamt would be a good choice too. Vaslui plays at Piatra-Neamt, so.... GEwinnen September 12th, 2011, 09:44 PM Unbelievable,they have switched the Schalke game to CLUJ.??????.Is there nothing available in Bucharest.? The Schalke fans will have a wonderful day in the busses - 400km from Bucarest to Cluj on the romanian motorway, btw, is there a motorway between Bucarest and Cluj?:nuts: Gombos September 12th, 2011, 10:12 PM The Schalke fans will have a wonderful day in the busses - 400km from Bucarest to Cluj on the romanian motorway, btw, is there a motorway between Bucarest and Cluj? not a full motorway yet, there are only parts of it. it was scheduled to be completed in 2014, the Transylvania Highway, but the term is unrealistic. there are a total of 620 kilometers from capital Bucharest to Nadlac, the border with Hungary. it is working very hard, big cost billions of euros, a lot of mountains, then the recession affected the construction... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roTIZsg9saM&feature=related lukas75 September 12th, 2011, 11:46 PM here is the turf flashing away ..... we are so stupid people ....... now the first contractor says they will need like 900.000 euros for the system ventilation and lights system which will allow the turf to grow and settle properly because is no ventilation and no proper light inside the stadium .........is a construction problem .......... http://www.gsp.ro/fotbal/nationala/foto-exclusiv-gsp-iti-arata-cum-e-decopertat-terenul-de-pe-national-arena-vechiul-gazon-va-fi-dus-direct-la-groapa-de-gunoi-o-261781.html CristianROU September 12th, 2011, 11:53 PM here is the turf flashing away ..... we are so stupid people ....... now the first contractor says they will need like 900.000 euros for the system ventilation and lights system which will allow the turf to grow and settle properly because is no ventilation and no proper light inside the stadium .........is a construction problem .......... http://www.gsp.ro/fotbal/nationala/foto-exclusiv-gsp-iti-arata-cum-e-decopertat-terenul-de-pe-national-arena-vechiul-gazon-va-fi-dus-direct-la-groapa-de-gunoi-o-261781.html is a normal problem for this kind of stadiums:) alexandru.mircea September 13th, 2011, 03:03 AM About Juventus' new stadium, in The Guardian: The main criticisms have been of the pitch, which already needs to be relaid after being ruined during the festivities ahead of the Notts County game, and of the fact that it's quite a pain to drive to. So as you can see, nobody's perfect. crashu September 13th, 2011, 07:11 AM here is the turf flashing away ..... we are so stupid people ....... now the first contractor says they will need like 900.000 euros for the system ventilation and lights system which will allow the turf to grow and settle properly because is no ventilation and no proper light inside the stadium .........is a construction problem .......... http://www.gsp.ro/fotbal/nationala/foto-exclusiv-gsp-iti-arata-cum-e-decopertat-terenul-de-pe-national-arena-vechiul-gazon-va-fi-dus-direct-la-groapa-de-gunoi-o-261781.html Si tu il crezi pe boul de Oprisan?... Bisnitzarul ala minte de rupe si nu stie cum sa mai musamalizeze isprava extraordinara... auzi si tu ce zice.. ca nu stia conditiile de pe arena cand a pus iarba.. pai daca era asa mare expert se interesa inainte de conditiile de pe arena(microclimatu lui) inainte sa tranteasca porcaria aia de iarba.. Deci sa ma lasi cu ce zice bezmeticu ala ca numa expert nu e.. Prost esti tu ca te fraieresc toti, si ii crezi pe toti prostii care vb la tv, nu mai generaliza... lukas75 September 13th, 2011, 08:42 AM between 09-02-2012 and 09-05.2012 no match on NATIONAL ARENA (UEFA says ) ........ so we have a stadium but with no guarantee for the turf ..... and we can`t play on him .... :) Report submitted to UEFA about the state estimates the national scene lawn turf stadium in Bucharest will require major renewal in the spring and recommended that the land does not host matches with 10 to 12 weeks before Europe League final, scheduled for May 9, 2012. British company agreed to UEFA problems playing surfaces, STRI, says that the destruction of the national scene after the first game land was caused by inappropriate choice of the type of lawn and support that has been mounted, the microclimate, and the maintenance it. As a result, the lawn was unstable and uncertain, and STRI recommended immediate replacement and postpone the match on Thursday, Steaua - Schalke 04, the League of Europe, on 21 September. Given the proximity of winter, which turned UEFA specialist has recommended purchasing a lawn artificial lighting to combat the lack of natural light and architectural amplified Bucharest closed arena. Even if the lawn will be replaced soon STRI representative doubts that the new turf will be in good condition in March 2012 and will meet the required quality for Europe League final. Therefore, he proposes that lawn to be renewed in the spring, is essential to dispute no longer matches in that period. Also, is recomnadat not play on the national scene with 10 to 12 weeks before the final European competition. The official also proposes the establishment of a game management area, to be implemented from now until May 2012. Hendriks-Graszoden Dutch company will handle the supply and installation of new turf for the national scene, said on Monday, Ziarul Financiar, general manager of the stadium builder Bogle Max Romeo Botocan. Max Bogle has built the national scene with the Italian company Astaldi. German company assumed the national scene lawn replacement. The contract was signed this weekend, but not representative Max BOEGL said the amount for which the Dutch-Graszoden Hendriks will put the new turf. Monday, started out green turf installed by the company range, belonging to Adrian Oprisan, brother of Marian Oprisan, president of Vrancea County Council, and which has not survived the first match played on the national scene, Romania-France game, score 0-0. Manufacturer estimates that by the end of this week will be mounted on the new turf stadium. At the meeting held on September 6, in Euro-2012 qualifiers, lawn gave the National Arena in studs footballers, many pieces of lawn are detaching all over it. Players are immersed in the field, he could not keep balance and was almost impossible Grassroots passed or dribble. A commission sent by UEFA inspected on September 8, lawn destroyed after the Romania-France match and submitted a report to the European forum management, which decided that the second match that was to be hosted by the National Arena, Star - League Schalke 04 Europe, to be played on Thursday on initial set, but not in Bucharest, Dr. Constantin Radulescu Stadium but in Cluj-Napoca. Friday Max-Bogle manufacturer announced that the national scene lawn problems were caused by faulty installation, repair and duration will be two weeks longer than the period originally envisaged. Thus, the first game on new turf will be played for Otelul on 27 September, with Benfica Lisbon in Group C of the Champions League. Two days later, on the national scene should evolve Rapid with PSV Eindhoven in Group C of the League of Europe. Mediafax and another problem Those who believed that the lawn is the only issue at the National Arena were wrong. Behind this building errors that ruined the match between Romania and France are hiding other problems as serious, at least for the comfort of the stadium. Folding roof mounted 11 million from the National Arena will be the next problem you will find Romans. Although its price is huge, the roof will not be closed if the rain will start during the game. Why would this happen? When the expansion of the roof will start, rain will be stored on the tarpaulin, and when the roof is closed water will be discharged near the spectators are at the forefront. This problem arose and the Commerzbank Arena, our model building, where in 2005 Confederations Cup final was interrupted many minutes after water flooded the upper roof land. Since then, Eintracht Frankfurt preferred to play with the roof open. The only solution that builders have found it to prevent this drawback is the weather forecast before the match tracking. If precipitation is announced, the roof will be closed before the audience to get the match. Even in this case, the problems do not disappear. With the roof closed, the temperature inside the stadium increased dramatically. "It would be a crime to close the stadium roof with so many people. If they had air conditioning, would be a good idea, but no atmosphere will be hot," warned chief meteorologist Germany, Joerg Kachelmann, before a match Commerzbank Arena on where to take this decision. Organizers have not listened to advice, and the match has been reported several seizures. Not only will the audience suffer from the roof construction at the National Arena. Sturctura giant cube and the roof will create more huge shadows on the ground, and viewers will have problems for this reason that parties will dispute Puratos day. For the truly serious problems were during the 2006 World Cup, FIFA decided that the Commerzbank Arena matches to play with the roof closed. http://www.onlinesport.ro/stiri/fotbal/fotbal-intern/nationala/78915/probleme-noi-la-national-arena.htm danutz September 13th, 2011, 02:40 PM The name of this thread is Lia Manoliu Arena ???!!! How about ,,Arena Nationala'' ? Lia Manoliu is the name of the entire sport area and not the name of the stadium ! Please someone , anyone to change the name of this thread , becouse is not the right one !:ohno: Gombos September 13th, 2011, 04:36 PM lukas, the pitch problem was already discussed many times. the forum is about architecture, not about grass. those are just recommandations because they affraid we will not have a perfect field. lukas75 September 14th, 2011, 08:12 AM ROMANIA - BELARUS will be played on the new PLOIESTI STADIUM IN 07 OCTOBER 2011 orland September 15th, 2011, 12:09 AM the Donbass Arena from Donetsk also had the same problem as in Bucharest and STRI managed the redevelopment of the Shakhtar's pitch to bring it up to international standards. You probably missed Donbass Arena up with Metallist Stadium in Kharkiv, where STRI has laid new lawn this summer which I believe is the best pitch in Ukraine now http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=80532904&postcount=391 lukas75 September 15th, 2011, 12:17 PM http://www.gsp.ro/fotbal/nationala/foto-a-inceput-montarea-noului-gazon-pe-national-arena-262665.html http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/2743/397392mg0414.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/97/397392mg0414.jpg/) Gombos September 15th, 2011, 05:15 PM You probably missed Donbass Arena up with Metallist Stadium in Kharkiv, where STRI has laid new lawn this summer which I believe is the best pitch in Ukraine now http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=80532904&postcount=391 wow, it's perfect, like in England! it looks exactly the same grass brought today in Bucharest. no, i didnt confuse Shakhtar with Mettalist, it was on their site. but in Donetsk they also added those panels. in Kharkov you dont need that. cornel001 September 15th, 2011, 08:18 PM lukas fu...ed this thread with google translations. I think another one comes in the black list. Gombos September 16th, 2011, 08:26 PM problem solved. steaua and rapid can play on stadium from tomorrow if they want. http://storage0.dms.mpinteractiv.ro/media/1/186/3927/8762069/8/img-3912.jpg?width=600&height=401 http://storage0.dms.mpinteractiv.ro/media/1/186/3927/8762069/5/img-3876.jpg?width=600&height=400 http://storage0.dms.mpinteractiv.ro/media/1/186/3927/8762069/12/img-3991.jpg?width=600&height=400 http://storage0.dms.mpinteractiv.ro/media/1/186/3927/8762069/4/img-3866.jpg?width=600&height=400 source: gandul PaulFCB September 16th, 2011, 09:38 PM Maybe they could have scheduled Dinamo - Rapid here if the lawn was laid a few days before. Now it's too late to move the game since it's Sunday evening but it would have been at least interesting to see a derby on such a stadium. Now I guess we will have Steaua-Rapid/Rapid-Steaua ( don't know who plays 'at home' first in the derby ) and hopefully Dinamo - Steaua in December. Otelul will play first against Benfica maybe... Manchester United fans received the initial 5.000 tickets but asked for more and they could double their numbers, it would be nice since Otelul doesn't have many fans anyway. Man U fans came here in 2004 when Dinamo played on the old stadium and they were quite fun to talk to since one of my friends was Man City fan with shirt in the middle of University Square where they were all gathered that day :). timo9 September 17th, 2011, 02:36 AM http://www.gsp.ro/fotbal/nationala/foto-a-inceput-montarea-noului-gazon-pe-national-arena-262665.html http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/2743/397392mg0414.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/97/397392mg0414.jpg/) they changed the grass ? adonys September 17th, 2011, 09:44 AM YES! They finished yesterday morning. And the first game on the new turf will be Otelul Galati - Benfica Lisbon in UCL on September, 27. danutz September 17th, 2011, 05:02 PM Otelul will play first against Benfica maybe... Manchester United fans received the initial 5.000 tickets but asked for more and they could double their numbers, it would be nice since Otelul doesn't have many fans anyway. I supposed no big number of fans from Galati but people from Bucharest will have a wonderful chance to see live such a great team like Manchester United , so I bet that Otelul will sold at least 30000 tickets (including 10000 from M.U.) So , is no need for Otelul to have fans in Bucharest since Manchester United does . nebunul September 17th, 2011, 08:14 PM TZANe9l2UB8 danutz September 18th, 2011, 05:23 PM It says on Wikipedia that National Arena can rise his capacity at 63000 seats . How is this posible ? FREEk01 September 18th, 2011, 11:13 PM I think by adding an upper 3rd tire and adding seats near to the pitch.Again, i think... SpicyMcHaggis September 19th, 2011, 08:52 AM Just one remark to the previous discussion about the grass... Dinamo Zagreb played on newly relayed pitch (two years in a row for that matter) just few days after it was put on. In Klagenfurt (was it?) during the Euro 2008 game way played if i remember correctly the very next day. If the grass is set up properly it doesn't have to let roots go in to be playable. Weight of the dirt should be enough to keep it "solid". I remember reading how Dinamo published that one roll of grass weights 500 kg. That pretty much says it all. What i'm trying to tell here is that people who blame the ground and lack of light are pretty much wrong. From what it looked like on pictures and videos from France game this in Bucharest was grass manufacturers fault.. dirt wasn't hard enough. Roll of grass simply shouldn't break... even under heavy pressure. danutz September 19th, 2011, 11:57 AM I think by adding an upper 3rd tire and adding seats near to the pitch.Again, i think... Yes , seems to be enough some space near the pitch , maybe that way it can look better with all the front seats much closer to that pitch . So , I guess that for Euro Championship it's not a problem to rise his capacity for 66000 seats. Despite of the fact that I'm not a great fan of this type of the stadium (the german type) I have to admit that National Arena looks much better than his brothers , the one from Frankfurt and the other from Warszawa . TracoRomanul September 19th, 2011, 04:22 PM Arena Nationala - Romania Vs Fance. 55,000 thousand fans singing the anthem of Romania. MUST WATCH !!! RGVpr7i82W0&feature=related lukas75 September 21st, 2011, 12:15 PM now online ticket sales can be ordered by choosing your sector (very good idea) on NATIONAL ARENA ex. http://bilete-fotbal-romania-belarus.myticket.ro/ro/bilete/536/detaliilocatie/romania--belarus.html Steaua Bucharest on National Arena in 2011 Date Game 2 octombrie Steaua - Oţelul (only if FRF not decide to protect the grass for ROMANIA - BELARUS 07.10.2011 ) 23 octombrie Steaua - Rapid 3 noiembrie Steaua - Maccabi Haifa 6 noiembrie Steaua - Concordia Chiajna 26 noiembrie Steaua - FC Braşov 10 decembrie Steaua - CFR 15 decembrie Steaua - AEK Larnaca 18 decembrie Steaua - Voinţa Sibiu PaulFCB September 22nd, 2011, 04:54 PM Actually, you should be able to choose exactly what seat you want, not just the sector. Otelul UCL tickets can be bought this way. groundsman September 23rd, 2011, 10:50 AM The problem with all new stadiums is the picth...that,s why SGL(STADIUM GROW LIGHTING) inproved the sistem of artificial light....and now more then 50 stadiums all over the world have this sistem....donetsh included.....you cand put a great grass, iff you dont have light and air the gras dies .....i work at san siro since 2006 and i seen many diferent type off grass,soil etc......its imposible two have strenght ....i dont have the light sistem but i seen it ...its amasing what it can do .....if you want a good picth buy the lights and get a specialist dont do it in the roumanian stile .... FRUMOS STADION .................FELICITARI crashu September 26th, 2011, 09:12 AM De ce ceva prost este automat scris ca fiind in stil romanesc? Terminati cu prostiile, nu romanii au inventat prostia..ci oamenii NU suntem noi primii care am construit prost si nu am facut toate lucrurile cum trebuie.. Macar la noi nu cad blocurile singure cum cad la turci.. fara cutremure si alte chestii... Gombos September 26th, 2011, 01:17 PM the pitch is perfect now http://www1.gsp.ro//usr/thumbs/thumb_735_x_334/2011/09/26/401275-rk-3577.jpg gmacruyff September 26th, 2011, 01:55 PM Where do you buy a ticket for a game ? Aka September 26th, 2011, 05:47 PM the pitch is perfect now It doesn't mean a thing. We'll know only during the game. Gombos September 26th, 2011, 07:33 PM It doesn't mean a thing. We'll know only during the game. yes, but it was tested each day. im sure it will be good, these british are well-known and the grass looks better than the one of Oprisan. :) UrsuRO September 26th, 2011, 08:50 PM De ce ceva prost este automat scris ca fiind in stil romanesc? Terminati cu prostiile, nu romanii au inventat prostia..ci oamenii NU suntem noi primii care am construit prost si nu am facut toate lucrurile cum trebuie.. Macar la noi nu cad blocurile singure cum cad la turci.. fara cutremure si alte chestii... English for fuck 's sake lukas75 September 26th, 2011, 11:07 PM Where do you buy a ticket for a game ? www.myticket.ro www.bilete.ro www.bileefotbalonline.ro lukas75 September 27th, 2011, 10:50 AM seems like we dont see many matches this year on national arena .... this photo was taken yesterday ........ http://www.onlinesport.ro/stiri/fotbal/liga-campionilor/79391/repetam-isprava-in-champions-league.htm http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/1127/detaliuiarba.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/716/detaliuiarba.jpg/) groundsman September 27th, 2011, 11:16 AM De ce ceva prost este automat scris ca fiind in stil romanesc? Terminati cu prostiile, nu romanii au inventat prostia..ci oamenii NU suntem noi primii care am construit prost si nu am facut toate lucrurile cum trebuie.. Macar la noi nu cad blocurile singure cum cad la turci.. fara cutremure si alte chestii... Iti raspund in romaneste ..... In europa exista peste 70 de stadioane care au sistem de iluminat artificial...asta da putere gazonului mai pe scurt face fotosinteza ...din aceste stadioane 50 sunt in anglia....5 in germania ...5 in spania ..5 in olanda ......si urmeaza cate unu in cateva tari .........in italia nici unul in frata unu si are putine unitati ca nu au avut bani cica sa ia mai multe..........nu e vb de noi romani ci in general noi latini credem ca le stim pe toate si facem noi ......spania tara mai deschisa la noi tecnologii a facut in ultimi ani multe imbunatari...stadioane noi ..investitii in tineri ...in centre sportive ......ramanem in urma pt ca nu investim in viitor ..si cand zic noi ma refer la majoritatea tarilor latine ...inca o prob .....vezi pozele de mai sus ...daune normale si foarte mici pararea mea, in care sar doua ciufuri de iarba vin criticare ......credem ca le stim pe toate ....noi suntem destepti numa ca pierdem prea mult timp dandu-ne cu parearea in loc sa rezolvam prob ..... REPET EU CRED CA NOI ROMANII SUNTEM DESTEPTI SI PUTEM FACE MULTE TREBUIE DOAR RABDARE SI CEVA AMBITIE ......TE SALUT andysimo123 September 27th, 2011, 02:01 PM I supposed no big number of fans from Galati but people from Bucharest will have a wonderful chance to see live such a great team like Manchester United , so I bet that Otelul will sold at least 30000 tickets (including 10000 from M.U.) So , is no need for Otelul to have fans in Bucharest since Manchester United does . There won't be anywhere near 10,000 from United going over. There are no direct flights out from Manchester and the connecting flights are well over £300. Expecting no more than 2,500. lukas75 September 27th, 2011, 02:19 PM love united, love qatar soon :) http://www.thepeninsulaqatar.com/qatar/165590-qatar-set-for-man-united-takeover.html andysimo123 September 27th, 2011, 04:04 PM More chance of Qatar sending a man to Mars than buying United. danutz September 27th, 2011, 05:24 PM There won't be anywhere near 10,000 from United going over. There are no direct flights out from Manchester and the connecting flights are well over £300. Expecting no more than 2,500. That's not a problem , will be enough fans MU from Romania plus people from Bucharest aparent neutral but more close to Otelul . More than 30000 tickets are already sold by now at Otelul-Mancheste United , so it's possible for 40000 or more at the time of the match . https://www.bileteucl.ro/main/produs/2 gmacruyff September 27th, 2011, 06:33 PM How do you pick up the ticket,after filling in the biletecul.? Aka September 27th, 2011, 09:44 PM Well, the grass seems a bit slippery and you can see bits of loose grass. But you can't expect it to be perfect with so fews days of "life". At least it's better than before. PaulFCB September 28th, 2011, 12:28 PM How do you pick up the ticket,after filling in the biletecul.? They send it free by courier, I for examples received my Benfica tickets on Monday while the other 2 are supposed to come before the game with Manchester. lukas75 September 28th, 2011, 01:19 PM 32 752 tickets sold to OTELUL - MANCHESTER SO FAR ...... SO I THINK will be sold OUT .... Tomorrow to RAPID - PSV will be around 32.000 people on the stadium The final project to lease the NATIONAL ARENA to a private management http://www4.pmb.ro/wwwt/institutii/CGMB/sedinte/ordinea_de_zi/db/05_20110928.pdf The main provisions of those concession contract: - The contract will be for 49 years and may be extended by up to half of the time decided to sign the contract - Operational management of the stadium to be done by a specialized operator, recognized internationally, with extensive experience in organizing sports events, cultural or any kind - Have adequate financial strength to allocate their resources for events - Have experience in the management of events and arenas like - Submit a plan for marketing, sales and financing strategy to maximize sales - The concessionaire will have to deal with the maintenance of the stadium and make it work best - To promote abroad Stadium gmacruyff September 28th, 2011, 06:30 PM Cant you just turn up at the stadium tomorrow and buy a ticket at the ground.? UrsuRO September 28th, 2011, 08:13 PM Yes you can. MS20 September 29th, 2011, 04:03 AM Virtually no one at the Otelul Benfica game. Certainly no more than 10k, if that. I guess thats the price you pay for playing so far away from your home city. Dunno why they didn't just play this at home. Man U game selling well though lukas75 September 29th, 2011, 10:23 AM Virtually no one at the Otelul Benfica game. Certainly no more than 10k, if that. I guess thats the price you pay for playing so far away from your home city. Dunno why they didn't just play this at home. Man U game selling well though because in romania only NATIONAL ARENA can host CH LEAGUE games ... Now together with ILIE OANA ARENA Ploiesti and soon CLUJ ARENA from Cluj will be the 3 stadiums where you can play CH league games ........... Gombos September 29th, 2011, 02:06 PM because in romania only NATIONAL ARENA can host CH LEAGUE games ... Now together with ILIE OANA ARENA Ploiesti and soon CLUJ ARENA from Cluj will be the 3 stadiums where you can play CH league games ........... you are not right! 8 stadiums from Romania can host CL matches: National Arena, Cluj Arena (both Elite) CFR's Stadium, Steaua Stadium, Ceahlaul Piatra-Neamt Stadium, Timisoara Stadium, Constanta Stadium and newly Ilie Oana from Ploiesti SpicyMcHaggis September 29th, 2011, 02:47 PM Virtually no one at the Otelul Benfica game. Certainly no more than 10k, if that. I guess thats the price you pay for playing so far away from your home city. Dunno why they didn't just play this at home. Man U game selling well though IMO teams that don't meet the infrastructural criteria (stadium in their city) shouldn't play at all. Give the spot to next best placed team in the league. Gombos September 29th, 2011, 04:03 PM IMO teams that don't meet the infrastructural criteria (stadium in their city) shouldn't play at all. Give the spot to next best placed team in the league. not really :) alexandru.mircea September 29th, 2011, 04:08 PM Please don't judge the interest for football in Bucharest by the attendance at the Otelul - Benfica game. It was not representative at all. Otelul isn't a club to draw large crowds in the capital city. They come from a provincial city where their own fan base is quite small; they don't have a tradition or a current team attractive enough to gain new fans. The reason why they won the last league is that for various reasons (like mismanagement, corruption scandals and prolonged lack of form) all the big clubs were in trouble last season, and Otelul happened to be the best of the mediocre teams. Sure, we all enjoyed the big clubs having the honours deservedly "stolen" by the small and honest team from the province, but that feeling didn't last long. Otelul are now in the midst of their own corruption scandal, which shows they might have not been that honest after all. Their mediocre performance at Basel in the first CL game was disenchanting; they look like a team that will probably end up as the worst in the competition, this season. Finally, ticket prices were too steep for such little promise of an ejoyable evening (and whoever thought it's not worth the trouble and the money was proved right). I guess this should explain well why the attendance was so small in numbers. However, Rapid Bucharest is playing PSV tonight in the Europa League and the tickets are already sold out. The club now regrets not putting all the tickets for sale; they were probably afraid there won't be much interest, like with Otelul, and they didn't request the upper tier. Gombos September 29th, 2011, 04:19 PM true alexandru.mircea September 29th, 2011, 04:20 PM IMO teams that don't meet the infrastructural criteria (stadium in their city) shouldn't play at all. Give the spot to next best placed team in the league. It's a sporting competition, not an infrastructure competition. Gombos September 29th, 2011, 04:31 PM It's a sporting competition, not an infrastructure competition. yes, if they won the title they can play even in Wien if they want. alexandru.mircea September 29th, 2011, 04:32 PM well, Mircea, for Unirea Urziceni fans came. because they were solid team and they proved they deserved the title. not the best players from the league, but best coach Petrescu and they gave 100%. and in Galati's case, we even had the first official match of a club on a new arena and people stil didn't go. There was a big difference between Unirea Urziceni and Otelul Galati. Unirea won the title also because they were actually good themselves, not only because the big clubs were bad. And they proved this in the CL, where they actually were amazing for such a small club. There was no corruption scandal associated with them, either. So I don't really believe that many people expected Otelul to perform as well as Unirea. And those who did could see at the Basel - Otelul game that it's not the case. Also, this wasn't the first game on the new stadium. The people who simply wanted to see the new stadium and have a great match experience came to see Romania - France from the EURO qualifiers. SpicyMcHaggis September 29th, 2011, 04:35 PM It's a sporting competition, not an infrastructure competition. Its biggest club competition in the world. Most expensive one as well. Standards have to exist or we'll be playing on dangerous dumps without basic facilities. I'm talking that from perspective of my club.. if UEFA didn't force them to fix up the ground they'd never do it. Regardless of the money.. (which they have). Gombos September 29th, 2011, 04:39 PM UEFA already established high regulations, even higher than they should have.. but it is also true we are living in the year 2011 and 3rd millenium, the world is moving fast! SpicyMcHaggis September 29th, 2011, 04:43 PM UEFA already established high regulations, even higher than they should have.. but it is also true we are living in the 2011 year and 3rd millenium, the world is moving fast! Actually, they aren't even that harsh. For champions league if i remember correctly minimal capacity is around 8k? You need very few covered seats (also mainly for VIP and press) etc. Nothing that normal modern stadium shouldn't have anyway. During the licensing process most of the stadiums fail because of strict and demanding VIP and press requirements. However, that is fairly easily fixable. If it was up to me i'd make it ever harsh.. NFL style.. get a proper ground (in all aspects) or nothing.. :) Gombos September 29th, 2011, 04:49 PM im not sure Spicy if all the category 4 stadiums can host CL matches! i think the regulations of Platini ask more seats, at least 15.000 or something. alexandru.mircea September 29th, 2011, 04:55 PM Its biggest club competition in the world. Most expensive one as well. Standards have to exist or we'll be playing on dangerous dumps without basic facilities. I'm talking that from perspective of my club.. if UEFA didn't force them to fix up the ground they'd never do it. Regardless of the money.. (which they have). But the standards already exist. There are no substandard stadiums used in the international fixtures, because of the very severe regulations. I see no need for further restrictions, on the contrary they are a major problem for the poorer countries. massp88 September 29th, 2011, 07:29 PM IMO teams that don't meet the infrastructural criteria (stadium in their city) shouldn't play at all. Give the spot to next best placed team in the league. So basically the richest clubs with the best facilities should be the only ones allowed? One of the best things about the CL is the fact that you will have small clubs from countries with smaller populations mixing it up with the big boys. Besides, the mandate to clubs in small cities/metro areas that they need to spend to upgrade their facilities in order to play is crazy. SpicyMcHaggis September 29th, 2011, 07:47 PM Considering that the poorest CL teams usually get around 10 millions just for qualifying i don't think that demanding them to spend some of that money on stadium is something negative.. UEFA CL is elite club competition.. you get a lot in return for playing in it.. but you gotta give some in as well. alexandru.mircea September 29th, 2011, 08:07 PM Considering that the poorest CL teams usually get around 10 millions just for qualifying i don't think that demanding them to spend some of that money on stadium is something negative.. UEFA CL is elite club competition.. you get a lot in return for playing in it.. but you gotta give some in as well. Unfortunately it's not that easy for small clubs. It's often that they have very old stadiums that can't be upgraded to UEFA standards, especially because there's no space around them to build more tiers or to create parking lots and other facilities. And you can't build a new UCL stadium with the money you're granted for one participation. Those money are usually spent for paying debt, wages and some new signings. And even if such a small club would decide to invest as much money as possible into a new UCL stadium, who guarantees they'll get to play again in the competition, to redeem the investment? So far all the Romanian stadiums that meet UCL standards have been built by or refurbished by local governments, with one exception - only one club could invest the over 20 mil. euros needed to upgrade their stadium to meet the standards (this club is CFR Cluj). As much as I like to believe in development, I don't think the Otelul Stadium will ever be a UCL stadium: http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fi%C8%99ier:29pogls.jpg http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fi%C8%99ier:Fotografii-0135b.jpg They would be better off building a new one from scratch, but one unsuccessful UCL participation is nowhere near enough for that. And I believe there are many other clubs in this position. alexandru.mircea September 29th, 2011, 09:38 PM I'm not at the stadium, but from the tv broadcast the atmosphere looks / sounds fantastic. The Rapid gallery is amazing as always. Now that we have scored, the chanting is mindblowing, and the acoustics of the arena are splendid. :eek2: C'mon Rapid! :nocrook::popcorn: MS20 September 30th, 2011, 04:55 AM alexandru.mircea Please don't judge the interest for football in Bucharest by the attendance at the Otelul - Benfica game. It was not representative at all. Wow, what a conclusion you drew there. Who was judging the interest for football in Bucharest by the poor attendance for an Otelul game? Seems like you've take offense for something that wasn't even said. I'll repeat what I said: Virtually no one at the Otelul Benfica game. Certainly no more than 10k, if that. I guess thats the price you pay for playing so far away from your home city. Dunno why they didn't just play this at home. Man U game selling well though No mention of Bucharest, of interest in football in Romania, or anything else you've just alluded to. I guess this should explain well why the attendance was so small in numbers. However, Rapid Bucharest is playing PSV tonight in the Europa League and the tickets are already sold out. The club now regrets not putting all the tickets for sale; they were probably afraid there won't be much interest, like with Otelul, and they didn't request the upper tier. I don't think anyone is under the illusion that Otelul would or should draw better attendances in Bucharest than one of the big two big teams from Bucharest. No one is saying that Romanian clubs have no fans. All that is being said is that Bucharest clubs should play in Bucharest, Galati clubs in Galati. The Galati - Benfica game presented a bad image for the CL. Now, if they don't have a stadium that is adequate for European competition, then one has to ask why they are even in the competition. The idea that a club has to go 250kms from their city to play a European match is absurd, and it was reflected by the woeful attendance. That's not a slight on Galati fans either, because they no doubt would have sold out their stadium at home. As SpicyMcHaggis said, teams participating in the CL should have stadiums which are up to standard within the boundary of their city. Otherwise, they shouldn't be competing. That doesn't mean they need a Bernabeu in a city of 200,000, but at least something which meets the criteria of UEFA. Here's a video of Rapid - PSV today. What the stadium should look like... with people actually in the stands, hosting a club from the same city as the location of the stadium.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFScJtQ2xJs SpicyMcHaggis September 30th, 2011, 05:21 AM offtopic Evil78 September 30th, 2011, 09:01 AM ^^ @SpicyMcHaggis You are a very wise guy, but this is not a thread about Dinamo Zagreb, Uefa, or anything which you keep filling this page with. So it would be nice from you to STOP. :bash: Back on topic...Some nice photos from the stadium last night (Europa League: Rapid-PSV). Even with only 26.000 people, the sound was incredible. :cheers: http://www.gsp.ro/international/europa-league/foto-giulestenii-au-creat-o-atmosfera-demna-de-noua-arena-rapidism-la-nivel-national-267026.html SpicyMcHaggis September 30th, 2011, 09:06 AM ^^ @SpicyMcHaggis You are a very wise guy, but this is not a thread about Dinamo Zagreb, Uefa, or anything which you keep filling this page with. So it would be nice from you to STOP. :bash: Back on topic...Some nice photos from the stadium last night (Europa League: Rapid-PSV). Even with only 26.000 people, the sound was incredible. :cheers: http://www.gsp.ro/international/europa-league/foto-giulestenii-au-creat-o-atmosfera-demna-de-noua-arena-rapidism-la-nivel-national-267026.html I wasn't the one that started talking offtopic.. i joined in later.. very nice of you to single me out tho.. out of like 10 guys.. Evil78 September 30th, 2011, 09:09 AM I wasn't the one that started talking offtopic.. i joined in later.. very nice of you to single me out tho.. out of like 10 guys.. Whatever...So the same goes to the other ones. Now leave it... alexandru.mircea September 30th, 2011, 04:13 PM @MS20: as you have noticed it yourself, my post was not addressing the issues from your post, so I am puzzled WHY you decided it was addressed to your post after all. :nuts: Furthermore, I didn't quote you, I didn't mention you (like I did in this post) and ourt posts were sepparated by several other. So yeah, it wasn't directed at your post. It was just a general disclaimer for anyone interested in discussing the utility of the new stadium. alexandru.mircea September 30th, 2011, 05:55 PM I made a thread about the off-topic issue on debate here, can a Moderator move all the off-topic posts there? Cheers. http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1446814 Old Trafford October 2nd, 2011, 09:26 PM looking forward to coming here. i was over the last time when we played Dinamo in the old stadium so looking forward to see the difference. United are bringing 2,000 fans over i think. MS20 October 3rd, 2011, 10:56 AM @MS20: as you have noticed it yourself, my post was not addressing the issues from your post, so I am puzzled WHY you decided it was addressed to your post after all. :nuts: Furthermore, I didn't quote you, I didn't mention you (like I did in this post) and ourt posts were sepparated by several other. So yeah, it wasn't directed at your post. It was just a general disclaimer for anyone interested in discussing the utility of the new stadium. Ok. Apologies. nebunul October 8th, 2011, 11:46 PM Good quality video … THSCrbP7kuI pawel19-87 October 9th, 2011, 02:03 PM Romania 2-2 Belarus By DamjanBNZ http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6213/6223998205_9090035c59_b.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/64797134@N03/6223998205/ http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6034/6223980545_0e7378f14e_b.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/64797134@N03/6223980545/ http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6105/6223982047_d418521c7e_b.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/64797134@N03/6223982047/ adeaide October 9th, 2011, 06:18 PM http://storage0.dms.mpinteractiv.ro/media/1/186/3927/8845343/1/5003123-mediafax-foto-catalin-abagiu.jpg?width=630 pawel19-87 October 21st, 2011, 10:33 AM Europa League Rapid 0-1 Legia Warsaw by Mateusz Kostrzewa legia.com http://legia.com/www/galerie/legia/2011-10-21_rapid_legia/big/1002.JPG http://legia.com/www/galerie/legia/2011-10-21_rapid_legia/big/1015.JPG http://legia.com/www/galerie/legia/2011-10-21_rapid_legia/big/1019.JPG http://legia.com/www/galerie/legia/2011-10-21_rapid_legia/big/1021.JPG http://legia.com/www/galerie/legia/2011-10-21_rapid_legia/big/1022.JPG http://legia.com/www/galerie/legia/2011-10-21_rapid_legia/big/1052.JPG http://legia.com/www/galerie/legia/2011-10-21_rapid_legia/big/1058.JPG Cristian G. October 21st, 2011, 05:35 PM Europa League Rapid 0-1 Legia Warsaw by Mateusz Kostrzewa legia.com Great pics, pawel19-87! :cheers: pawel19-87 October 21st, 2011, 09:42 PM by turi legionisci.com http://legionisci.com/photos12j/12rapid1_f8.jpg http://legionisci.com/photos12j/12rapid1_f10.jpg http://legionisci.com/photos12j/12rapid1_f11.jpg http://legionisci.com/photos12j/12rapid1_f12.jpg http://legionisci.com/photos12j/12rapid1_f38.jpg http://legionisci.com/photos12j/12rapid1_f52.jpg by Jan Szurek legia.net http://www.legia.net/foto/12rapid-legia/rapid3.jpg http://www.legia.net/foto/12rapid-legia/rapid52.jpg by Michał Terlecki legia.com.pl http://www.legia.com.pl/img_galerie/11_jesien/10_20_rapid/IMG_9782.JPG http://www.legia.com.pl/img_galerie/11_jesien/10_20_rapid/IMG_9784.JPG http://www.legia.com.pl/img_galerie/11_jesien/10_20_rapid/IMG_9786.JPG alexandru.mircea October 28th, 2011, 01:55 PM http://www.gsp.ro/fotbal/nationala/foto-igrasie-si-betoane-nefinisate-fata-nevazuta-a-national-arena-un-stadion-de-240-de-mil-de-euro-275635.html Igrasie şi betoane nefinisate, faţa nevăzută a Naţional Arena, un stadion de 240 de mil. de euro! După 51 de zile de la inaugurare şi 7 meciuri jucate pe noua arenă, Gsp inventariază lipsurile unui stadion īn care s-au investit 234 de milioane de euro De oriunde te apropii, construcţia e impozantă: un Colosseum cu 55.200 de locuri, aruncat īn traficul Bucureştiului. Aleile incintei sīnt largi, luminate excelent, au loc lejer grupuri de cincizeci de suporteri. Ce-i drept, unii se mai plīng că nu există bănci pe care să te aşezi īn curtea uriaşă, unde verdeaţa şi betonul sīnt dispuse după o măsură nemţească. Dar colosul luminează copleşitor, şi ai venit pentru fotbal. Paranteză: singurul sport care īşi poate disputa evenimentele aici. Mai faci cīţiva paşi şi apar primele hibe. Nu, nu ai ochi de soacră, pur şi simplu n-ai cum să nu vezi: scările către porţile de acces sīnt din beton, nefinisate. Iar coloanele ample care īnfăşoară exteriorul arenei, tot din beton. Tot nefinisate. Repeţi cuvīntul de cīteva ori: ne-fi-ni-sat. O să-l īnveţi bine! tickbones October 28th, 2011, 03:10 PM very nice desgn adonys November 16th, 2011, 04:07 PM Steaua Bucharest vs Rapid Bucharest. http://i39.tinypic.com/qz0y8o.jpg pacoste November 27th, 2011, 10:29 AM how want to add photo on this topic pls take my id, st3listu_rzv, and upload the photos here. I have a dozen of photos from Steaua vs Rapid. Cristian G. November 27th, 2011, 08:29 PM how want to add photo on this topic pls take my id, st3listu_rzv, and upload the photos here. I have a dozen of photos from Steaua vs Rapid. Why don't you post the photos and ask someone else to do it? Axelferis November 27th, 2011, 09:04 PM i think the screenboards is no good at all when you compare similar stadiums (warsaw, frankfurt) DrunkMonkey November 28th, 2011, 02:24 PM what in the blue hell are you on about? maybe it's a little to high, but other than that I don't see any problem with it. :dunno: Axelferis November 28th, 2011, 02:39 PM i mean they look so "cheap" compare to what you can have in general in stadiums especially new ones no? DrunkMonkey November 28th, 2011, 02:57 PM that's just how things go around in Romania, you build something using cheap materials and sell it at an astronomical price so you get more money from the general retards. "quality" is still an unknown word here... but at least they are functional and you have a good visibility at the screens, alltough I can't understand why it doesn't show replays. Evil78 November 29th, 2011, 12:56 AM i mean they look so "cheap" compare to what you can have in general in stadiums especially new ones no? We don't listen to retards. There are 4 screens of 30sqm each, which are more than enough for the purpose they were put there for. Maybe when Romania will become the economic power nr.1 in Europe (in 5-10 years:lol:), then we will put some 3D screens, special order for Axelferis. They look cheap? :lol: Give us some technical definitons of what "cheap" screens look like, compared to "expensive" screens? (you have seen 2 photos and you can already tell???) ....You know what? ...forget it. We don't need the explanations. Enough mumbo jumbo from you on this site.:bash: A nice intro to the upcoming E.L. final Bucharest 2012: q0lMHlJlBZM adonys November 29th, 2011, 07:48 AM Super! :cheers: Axelferis November 29th, 2011, 01:34 PM I love this music it's "industrial revolution part 2" by jean michel jarre (remasterized with Prague philarmonic orchestra) and used during Rugby World cup 2007 in France. Guide players to the pitch and for the final celebrations at 0:40 9XyI8Joo3aI Hymn of triumph :cheers: DrunkMonkey November 30th, 2011, 01:50 PM Hymn of triumph :cheers: true, true :D Florin December 1st, 2011, 02:59 PM We don't listen to retards. There are 4 screens of 30sqm each, which are more than enough for the purpose they were put there for. Maybe when Romania will become the economic power nr.1 in Europe (in 5-10 years:lol:), then we will put some 3D screens, special order for Axelferis. They look cheap? :lol: Give us some technical definitons of what "cheap" screens look like, compared to "expensive" screens? (you have seen 2 photos and you can already tell???) ....You know what? ...forget it. We don't need the explanations. Enough mumbo jumbo from you on this site.:bash: A nice intro to the upcoming E.L. final Bucharest 2012: Only a few seconds about Bucharest or the stadium... :ohno: PaulFCB December 1st, 2011, 06:47 PM We don't listen to retards. There are 4 screens of 30sqm each, which are more than enough for the purpose they were put there for. Maybe when Romania will become the economic power nr.1 in Europe (in 5-10 years:lol:), then we will put some 3D screens, special order for Axelferis. They look cheap? :lol: Give us some technical definitons of what "cheap" screens look like, compared to "expensive" screens? (you have seen 2 photos and you can already tell???) ....You know what? ...forget it. We don't need the explanations. Enough mumbo jumbo from you on this site.:bash: A nice intro to the upcoming E.L. final Bucharest 2012: The screens were already faulty at Otelul-Basel game, some dead pixels ( green, black, red ) at least for the one facing Tribuna 1, and the screen are kinda blurry tbh. The stadium has faults, screens are nothing special, you don't need to be an economical power to do everything right from time to time. Only a few seconds about Bucharest or the stadium... :ohno: It's a Europa League final presentation, it's meant to attract people into buying tickets and shit for the game, not the stadium :tongue3:. Tickets have already been sold out for the Romanian Public, so who hasn't bought any and wants to go to the final they have to wait till the 15.900 are sold on UEFA.com for non-Romanian residents and 10.000 to the two finalists. Usually not all those tickets are sold so there can be a re-selling to Romanian people in March and then in April. Last year Braga and Porto didn't buy all the 10.000 tickets and some were returned to the Irish people. PaulFCB December 1st, 2011, 06:49 PM *Double, delete* Le Clerk December 6th, 2011, 09:56 AM Red Hot Chilli Peppers are coming to the National Stadium next year for a concert (31 August) (http://www.google.ro/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=red+hot+chilli+peppers&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CDIQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fredhotchilipeppers.com%2F&ei=edjdTt7lFsaksgbs66HqCA&usg=AFQjCNEG0P4Z9RkQaVCdg5cZxqwOVhxlvw)! :rock: Gombos December 8th, 2011, 02:51 AM big deal, I was waiting U2 DrunkMonkey December 9th, 2011, 04:30 PM I wasn't :D Jericho-79 December 9th, 2011, 07:20 PM big deal, I was waiting U2 Maybe next tour. I wasn't :D Just wait until U2 sells out the entire stadium.:) lukas75 December 15th, 2011, 02:16 PM the best choreography ever .... http://youtu.be/9t8rqlR86OE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXTgeeAHNms&feature=related Evil78 December 15th, 2011, 05:45 PM the best choreography ever .... http://youtu.be/9t8rqlR86OE ^^ Not to mention the atmosphere. It will be very difficult for any european team to win in this stadium, especially with 55.000 fanatic suporters, plus the fact that Steaua, in the last few games, started to play a quality football. :cheers: 9t8rqlR86OE&feature=related DrunkMonkey December 15th, 2011, 06:33 PM ^^ It will be very difficult for any european team to win in this stadium, especially with 55.000 fanatic suporters, plus the fact that Steaua, in the last few games, started to play a quality football. :cheers: 9t8rqlR86OE&feature=related you're one positive fella, aren'tcha? it was only AEK Larnaka FFS. not to mention the fact that, the coreography was payed by the Light Warrior, I'm talking of course about the Sheep... I mean Chief Monkey owner who destroied this club. it may be a nice stadium, but it's not Steaua's turf Evil78 December 15th, 2011, 07:38 PM you're one positive fella, aren'tcha? it was only AEK Larnaka FFS. not to mention the fact that, the coreography was payed by the Light Warrior, I'm talking of course about the Sheep... I mean Chief Monkey owner who destroied this club. it may be a nice stadium, but it's not Steaua's turf -Yesterday was a great atmosphere. Nobody can deny that. Do you want to? -The coreography was payed by the owner of the club. And? :dunno: What's your point? It looked great. Maybe better than putting half of the stadium on fire, or throwing some toilet paper on the pitch. -Steaua has played already 6 games on the new stadium, without losing once. From those 6 games 2 were in the E.L.(both won). The average number of spectators was over 30.000. Which makes me think that even Man Utd or Man City would have a hard game on their hand in Bucharest, if they would be drawn with Steaua for the next round. You think i'm too optimistic? Then you don't know much about football... - Steaua's home turf? Which one is that? At the moment they have a contract signed with the municipality for this stadium. The old Ghencea stadium is NOT theirs anymore, but this is history, old news (a few months old). In case you didn't hear it you should do some research. - The "chief monkey" owner has achieved more european performances with Steaua, since he took over, than all the other "big" romanian clubs put together (i'm talking about the last 10 years). Check the statistics from the article below (which doesn't even include the season 2006, when Steaua reached the UefaCup semifinal, and gave Romania the posibility to have 2 teams in Champions League the next seasons): http://www.prosport.ro/fotbal-intern/liga-1/steaua-a-adus-punctele-fara-de-care-liga-i-ajungea-in-epoca-de-piatra-clasamentul-adevarului-in-europa-cat-a-contribuit-fiecare-echipa-la-coeficient-9064147 cornelinho December 15th, 2011, 09:42 PM new record attendance for national arena 50,051 source (http://www.goal.com/en-us/match/66157/steaua-vs-aek-larnaca/play-by-play) good job steaua! giovani kun December 15th, 2011, 09:47 PM ^^yep and a good performance too :cheers: alex_zebe December 15th, 2011, 10:05 PM You know the 9 from 1947 was reversed during the choreography, eventually having something resembling a "P" instead of a 9? :D It's pretty clear that the one who paid for the choreography also drew it. :D Alexbbb December 16th, 2011, 01:21 AM I know Steaua officially set a new record attendance, but there were definitely more people at Romania vs France game on the stadium. PaulFCB December 16th, 2011, 01:43 AM Which makes me think that even Man Utd or Man City would have a hard game on their hand in Bucharest, if they would be drawn with Steaua for the next round. You think i'm too optimistic? Then you don't know much about football... From AEK Larnaca to Man United...nice jump. Apart from the fact teams like Man United or any big European teams don't give a damn about such things, having a vast experience in playing football at a high level, the pressure for such a team in a competition like Europa League should be sub-zero :nuts:. The coreography was payed by the owner of the club. And? Coreographies are made by the fans, not by the club :nuts: and it's kinda a part of being an Ultras, you don't ask for anything from the club. You'll probably say who the damn said anything about Ultras movement, well, those guys over there tend to think they are but they don't follow any rule, fans in Romania only copy the bad parts and say it's enough to auto-declare themselves Ultras or Hooligans groups. - Steaua's home turf? Which one is that? At the moment they have a contract signed with the municipality for this stadium. The old Ghencea stadium is NOT theirs anymore, but this is history, old news (a few months old). In case you didn't hear it you should do some research. You are naive to think Steaua will play on National Arena from now on, it's only a temporary thing linked with the owners personal "problems". The National stadium was used previously by teams like Dinamo or Rapid when it was needed, but nothing was forever, so with the new Arena. @AlexBBB at the Romania-France ( tickets initially for Romania-Argentina mostly ) the prices where high enough plus much uncertainty about what is going to be played. I bought tickets to see Argentina...but went to see the shit-France team anyway, but others would say it's not worth 100 RON for a mild placed seat for a game with a team we kept playing with forever. MS20 December 16th, 2011, 09:06 AM Good to see the stadium at its best. Great attendance for a club I've never heard of (AEK Larnaca) Alexbbb December 16th, 2011, 02:13 PM @AlexBBB at the Romania-France ( tickets initially for Romania-Argentina mostly ) the prices where high enough plus much uncertainty about what is going to be played. I bought tickets to see Argentina...but went to see the shit-France team anyway, but others would say it's not worth 100 RON for a mild placed seat for a game with a team we kept playing with forever. Ok, I know that, but I was just saying that the stadium looked more crowded at that game. At wednesday's game they left a bigger gap between the home and away fans. At the other game, pretty much all the seats were taken. This is how I saw it:D imbee December 16th, 2011, 02:45 PM :ohno: Arena Nationala so far 1.Steaua - AEK Larnaca: 50.000 2.Romania - Franta 0-0: 49.187 3.Steaua - Rapid 0-0: 41.432 4.Steaua - CFR Cluj 1-1: 35.000 5.Steaua - Maccabi Haifa 4-2: 31.123 source (http://www.ziare.com/steaua/stiri-steaua/steaua-bate-recordul-de-spectatori-pe-arena-nationala-1139524) :ohno::ohno: Oţelul-FC Basel about 5.000 source (http://asport.ro/international,liga-campionilor,sute-de-spectatori-au-parasit-national-arena-la-pauza-meciului-otelul-fc-basel,196400) so is it a waste of money? Evil78 December 16th, 2011, 05:56 PM From AEK Larnaca to Man United...nice jump. Apart from the fact teams like Man United or any big European teams don't give a damn about such things, having a vast experience in playing football at a high level, the pressure for such a team in a competition like Europa League should be sub-zero :nuts:. I didn't say that Man Utd or any other team would play worse because of the pressure, the stadium or the fans, but Steaua seems to be playing better under such circumstances. Coreographies are made by the fans, not by the club :nuts: and it's kinda a part of being an Ultras, you don't ask for anything from the club. You'll probably say who the damn said anything about Ultras movement, well, those guys over there tend to think they are but they don't follow any rule, fans in Romania only copy the bad parts and say it's enough to auto-declare themselves Ultras or Hooligans groups. whatever... You are naive to think Steaua will play on National Arena from now on, it's only a temporary thing linked with the owners personal "problems". The National stadium was used previously by teams like Dinamo or Rapid when it was needed, but nothing was forever, so with the new Arena. And was used also by Steaua when it was needed. They played 4 games in the season they've reached the UefaCup semifinal. Plus some domestic games, when the Ghencea was under renovation. Anyway, the purpose of this stadium was to be used for football, and i mean not only 5 times/year by the national team. There are many teams who use their "national" stadiums for important games, or even for normal league games... Panathinaikos, AEK Athens and Dinamo Kiev are just a few which come into my mind now. I really don't see what is the problem with that? As long as you have the support of the fans...which was the case for Steaua every time they used this stadium, especially in European cups. Some people have some fixed ideas about certain things...which i find kinda' strage. But it's their problem. :cheers: DrunkMonkey December 16th, 2011, 08:08 PM - The "chief monkey" owner has achieved more european performances with Steaua, since he took over, than all the other "big" romanian clubs put together (i'm talking about the last 10 years). Check the statistics from the article below (which doesn't even include the season 2006, when Steaua reached the UefaCup semifinal, and gave Romania the posibility to have 2 teams in Champions League the next seasons): http://www.prosport.ro/fotbal-intern/liga-1/steaua-a-adus-punctele-fara-de-care-liga-i-ajungea-in-epoca-de-piatra-clasamentul-adevarului-in-europa-cat-a-contribuit-fiecare-echipa-la-coeficient-9064147 :wallbash: I 'm not even gonna argue with you on that, my brain will freeze and I'll have a stroke. so I'm just gonna be ironic like usual, so I don't blow up and ask you about health. Hail Becali! :master: UrsuRO December 17th, 2011, 10:01 PM Jesus Evil78 beside being wrong and ugly that coreographie was paid by the master of all sheeps :lol:Watch Dinamo coregraphies :lol: real ultras shit! cornelinho December 19th, 2011, 11:03 PM come on people :-j ... this is abut the stadium being a real beauty ... so what if it was payed... the result is the best so far in romania... RMB2007 December 19th, 2011, 11:17 PM http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/9797/d618bd0ce0.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/841/d618bd0ce0.jpg/) http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/476/441ca3cf64.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/502/441ca3cf64.jpg/) http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/9245/a905f355de.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/834/a905f355de.jpg/) cornel001 December 20th, 2011, 02:29 PM Last evening Steaua played on this stadium, while raining. The rectractable roof... wait, this has a rectractable roof ? Last evening there was no sign of it. Axelferis December 20th, 2011, 02:36 PM This was the case too for the match in Dusseldorf ,Germany vs Belgium. Why to make a roof then :dunno: ?? www.sercan.de December 20th, 2011, 03:04 PM AS far as i know the refree can decide to close the roof. And as far as i know it will be closed just at heavy rain or snow. Evil78 December 20th, 2011, 04:58 PM AS far as i know the refree can decide to close the roof. And as far as i know it will be closed just at heavy rain or snow. ^^ Both wrong (...of course the refree must agree, but that was not the main reason why the roof stayed closed). :) The club (Steaua) has a shit contract signed with the municipality, which says that in order to close the roof during a game, they must make a written request at least 3 days before. :nuts: I don't know what the club's lawyers were drinking, when they signed such a crap. :bash: Not even NASA could say 100% sure if there will be rain or not, 72 hours in advance. The solution would be to make such a request for EVERY GAME...like this nothing can go wrong. :lol: alexandru.mircea December 20th, 2011, 10:55 PM Last I heard, the roof isn't used unless temperature drops bellow -7 celsius, otherwise the owner loses the guarantee for the roof from the constructor. Bullshit, if you ask me. DrunkMonkey December 20th, 2011, 11:27 PM where did you hear that? the roof was used on over 0 celsius conditions before, so yeah, it's BS cornel001 December 21st, 2011, 09:22 AM No, it was said restricted under 7 celsius, couse snow could be too heavy for it. BS, I say, anyway. michał_ December 21st, 2011, 01:27 PM Last I heard, the roof isn't used unless temperature drops bellow -7 celsius, otherwise the owner loses the guarantee for the roof from the constructor. Bullshit, if you ask me. No, it was said restricted under 7 celsius, couse snow could be too heavy for it. BS, I say, anyway. OK, I'm not Romanian, but I think you received misleading information. The retractable roof cannot be used (either to open or close) below -7 as then it would most probably crack in numerous places. The manufacturer gives guarantees only for use above this temperature. Below this temperature the membrane freezes and gets hard and cannot fold so it would break with any movement - no matter if it would be opening or closing. I think that's very reasonable, works that way in Warsaw, Frankfurt and Vancouver. alexandru.mircea December 21st, 2011, 05:05 PM My source was the Romanian sports press, which is an absolutely terrible source in general. I am looking now again over the article and the phrasing in that sentence is so bad that I misunderstood the whole idea. What they wanted to say is that stadium will only use the retractable roof when the temperature is at least +7 degrees Celsius, and it was only +3 that night. Of course, in today's article (http://www.gsp.ro/fotbal/liga-1/ne-enerveaza-ca-am-avut-inca-o-data-dreptate-in-stadionul-care-a-costat-ca-n-germania-ploua-ca-n-romania-290997.html) the reason's are completely different: "Īn acest moment, nu există o firmă care să administreze stadionul, nu riscă nimeni să facă operaţiuni greşite. Iar īn contract scrie că acoperişul nu se deschide cīnd plouă şi nici cīnd ninge, ci doar īnainte de astfel de fenomene meteo. Şi nu e voie să fie desfăşurat dacă viteza vīntului depăşeşte 70 kilometri pe oră". I have no effing clue what that means (they can't use the roof when it rains or snows, only before such events occurs - wtf?). Which is why I said these are terrible sources. michał_ December 22nd, 2011, 05:15 PM Of course, in today's article (http://www.gsp.ro/fotbal/liga-1/ne-enerveaza-ca-am-avut-inca-o-data-dreptate-in-stadionul-care-a-costat-ca-n-germania-ploua-ca-n-romania-290997.html) the reason's are completely different: "Īn acest moment, nu există o firmă care să administreze stadionul, nu riscă nimeni să facă operaţiuni greşite. Iar īn contract scrie că acoperişul nu se deschide cīnd plouă şi nici cīnd ninge, ci doar īnainte de astfel de fenomene meteo. Şi nu e voie să fie desfăşurat dacă viteza vīntului depăşeşte 70 kilometri pe oră". I have no effing clue what that means (they can't use the roof when it rains or snows, only before such events occurs - wtf?). Which is why I said these are terrible sources. That may be true - similar rule was mentioned several times in other retractable roof stadia. I think it's written somewhere in the rules of the game (UEFA, FIFA, anyone?) that you cannot change the weather conditions during a game - only prior or after. Which means not necessarily that you have to move the roof before it starts raining, but before the game when raining. If it starts raining during the game, no way to get the roof going. Evil78 December 23rd, 2011, 01:00 PM That may be true - similar rule was mentioned several times in other retractable roof stadia. I think it's written somewhere in the rules of the game (UEFA, FIFA, anyone?) that you cannot change the weather conditions during a game - only prior or after. Which means not necessarily that you have to move the roof before it starts raining, but before the game when raining. If it starts raining during the game, no way to get the roof going. Anyway, the closing of the roof makes more sense during other events (like concerts, boxing, etc.). For a football game only if it's a torrential rain, or if snowing. Let's be serious..., football is not an indoor sport, and is not played by balerinas. During Steaua's last game there were just a few drops of rain. :nuts: Why to close the roof for that? It would be a joke. Regarding the more or less stupid UEFA and FIFA rules..., they are only existing in order to be changed in the future. :cheers: alexandru.mircea December 23rd, 2011, 01:17 PM That may be true - similar rule was mentioned several times in other retractable roof stadia. I think it's written somewhere in the rules of the game (UEFA, FIFA, anyone?) that you cannot change the weather conditions during a game - only prior or after. Which means not necessarily that you have to move the roof before it starts raining, but before the game when raining. If it starts raining during the game, no way to get the roof going. That makes sense. It was just terrible wording from the newspaper I was quoting. Gombos December 30th, 2011, 10:44 AM The roof was already closed at some match, if you remember. Press is bullshit and Gazeta Sporturilor was always vehement against the mayor. They lie a lot and they look always unsatisfied, but it is political stuff. For example in Frankfurt, the railway station was not included in stadium's price as they said, I've verified. Sadly they are subjective. At least Prosport is inventing transfers, not serious things. kenan20 December 31st, 2011, 01:39 AM great arena jxc January 23rd, 2012, 08:43 PM Could someone PM with the name of the company looking after the Vip catering ? Cheers Great looking stadium :banana: Florin January 26th, 2012, 12:25 PM It seems that the field is in a very bad shape once again... :( adonys January 30th, 2012, 01:07 PM http://i44.tinypic.com/2ueoaxh.jpg Evil78 February 12th, 2012, 03:18 PM It seems that the field is in a very bad shape once again... :( On the contrary...The pitch is in a perfect shape. :cheers: It is protected by a special cover, and the heating system kept it at a good temperature. I think there will be no problems for the game with Twente, on the 16th Feb. Photos from yesterday (Steaua owner, and Bucharest mayor, visit at the stadium): http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/1968/bi002868.jpg http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/2244/bi002759.jpg http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4641/bi002809.jpg Skycam.ro February 15th, 2012, 08:18 PM Today the National Arena [IMG]http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg612/Laur1973/P1400726.jpg http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg612/Laur1973/P1400722.jpg http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg612/Laur1973/P1400710.jpg http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg612/Laur1973/P1400708.jpg http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg612/Laur1973/P1400706.jpg http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg612/Laur1973/P1400692.jpg http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg612/Laur1973/P1400689.jpg http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg612/Laur1973/P1400685_1.jpg http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg612/Laur1973/P1400681.jpg http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg612/Laur1973/P1400680.jpg more aerial photos here: www.skycam.ro Bogus Law February 15th, 2012, 10:03 PM On the contrary...The pitch is in a perfect shape. :cheers: I agree - the shape of the pitch is perfect i.e. rectangular ;) adonys February 17th, 2012, 09:31 PM National Arena last night: http://i41.tinypic.com/zsn5ok.jpg http://i41.tinypic.com/pshls.jpg http://i41.tinypic.com/285ufa.jpg Evil78 February 17th, 2012, 10:38 PM How many people were at the game in those freeeezing temperatures? About 45.000? adonys February 18th, 2012, 12:53 PM Yes, maybe a little over 45,000. cornelinho February 18th, 2012, 06:21 PM Steaua Bucureşti 0 - 1 Twente 16 February 2012 Attendance 49588 (2d) source (http://www.soccerway.com/matches/2012/02/16/europe/uefa-cup/sc-fc-steaua-bucuresti-sa/stichting-fc-twente-65/1237605/) btw ... steaua has 4 of the top 5 attendance records and only one under 40k ... don't think that there will be another game over 40k in this stadium until the EL final FREEk01 February 18th, 2012, 10:21 PM don't think that there will be another game over 40k in this stadium until the EL final I agree, but it's a small chance for at least 40k at the game with Uruguay, you don't see Forlan, Suarez and Cavani everyday, of course, if they come :D. Evil78 February 18th, 2012, 10:34 PM ... don't think that there will be another game over 40k in this stadium until the EL final Well.... :) That depends on the result against Twente next week. (let's not start the discussion, that they will not win, bla bla... this is not a thread for that. Let's just wait and see.:) ) PaulFCB February 19th, 2012, 03:23 AM As much as I know, cornelinho is right mainly because Romania-Uruguay will be the last game before the EL final to be played on National Arena. Steaua will have to play it's league games somewhere else, probably they will return to Ghencea starting this spring. cornelinho February 21st, 2012, 08:15 AM aprox 500 tickets sold so far for romania-uruguay on 29 feb. impressive... cornelinho February 27th, 2012, 04:18 PM update : aprox 1000 tickets sold so far for romania-uruguay on 29 feb. michał_ February 27th, 2012, 06:59 PM update : aprox 1000 tickets sold so far for romania-uruguay on 29 feb. Is there any protest going on? Sounds really low! cornelinho February 27th, 2012, 08:43 PM Is there any protest going on? Sounds really low! nope, just low interest in a highly disappointing national team. cornelinho March 1st, 2012, 02:39 PM pics from last night . and attendance was aprox 20k + or - http://www.dolce-sport.ro/poza-thumbnail-600x600-upl/photos/-articles_11103_12419.jpg http://www.dolce-sport.ro/poza-thumbnail-600x600-upl/photos/-articles_11103_12421.jpg http://www.dolce-sport.ro/poza-thumbnail-600x600-upl/photos/-articles_11103_12420.jpg http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/425766_387602514600709_145489145478715_1495536_995061837_n.jpg http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/419196_387602581267369_145489145478715_1495538_1224130861_n.jpg http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/418499_387601794600781_145489145478715_1495523_692099640_n.jpg http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/427615_387602424600718_145489145478715_1495531_1508774163_n.jpg http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/426461_387602404600720_145489145478715_1495530_1292138958_n.jpg ManoWar99 March 5th, 2012, 11:07 PM Isn't the Stieaua - Dinamo derby going to be played on this stadium? adonys March 6th, 2012, 09:02 AM That decision will depend of Steaua. The match will be played on May 12th, so after the Europa League Final. DrunkMonkey March 11th, 2012, 01:13 AM I think this stadium looks good as a whole, but really lacks the detail. they were probably like "we have the stadium now, screw the finishing touches".... but a stadium that costs +200 mil. shouldn't look like it's unfinished! not to mention things like the fact that they use only a few accsess points, even tough the stadium has like a gazillion of them or that they don't really take advantage of the retractable roof fortunatly tough, things can be fixed easly.... now only if we had a mayor and not a mental that likes to play doctor prahovaploiesti March 15th, 2012, 10:39 PM I hope that the people that manage the stadium will understand that if you build a new stadium you have to take care of it and not replace the turf 3-4 times a year. Google1998 April 11th, 2012, 04:41 PM some new photos? Gombos April 11th, 2012, 04:48 PM http://www9.gsp.ro//usr/thumbs/thumb_540_x_404/2012/04/10/473134-100412-incalzire-artificiala.jpg soon like this: http://www.stri.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Football-Donbass-570x427.jpg photos: gazeta sporturilor Ionut_Lupu April 11th, 2012, 05:03 PM Finally they bought the light. Evil78 April 11th, 2012, 05:49 PM ^^ Nice to see the trophy finally in the stadium. :cheers: Finally they bought the light. Well, this is the 3rd pitch, in 8 months. It was about time. Gombos April 11th, 2012, 06:30 PM http://i44.tinypic.com/sg71ue.jpg http://www.gsp.ro/usr/thumbs/thumb_940_x_627/2012/04/11/473571-alx6200.jpg adonys April 27th, 2012, 09:45 AM Atletico Madrid vs Athletic Bilbao will be the UEFA Europa League Final on 9 May 2012 at the National Arena, Bucharest. :) gnaysky April 30th, 2012, 12:50 PM looks like a commerzbank arena cornelinho April 30th, 2012, 04:51 PM looks like a commerzbank arena http://i.qkme.me/1q8h.jpg adeaide May 1st, 2012, 04:43 AM http://storage0.dms.mpinteractiv.ro/media/1/186/3936/8785680/23/5003146-mediafax-foto-theodor-pana.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/Stadionul_National_-_National_Arena.jpg/800px-Stadionul_National_-_National_Arena.jpg http://i48.servimg.com/u/f48/15/58/80/85/img_8610.jpg http://storage0.dms.mpinteractiv.ro/media/401/781/10668/9576932/1/arena0.jpg http://www.9am.ro/files/uploads/arena(1).jpg http://media.realitatea.ro/multimedia/image/201108/w460/stadion_21071900.jpeg http://www.adevarul.ro/bbtcontent/clipping/ADVIMA20110730_0184/4.jpg http://www.mondonews.ro/files/Stadionul_National_Arena_poate_fi_vizitat_sambata_.jpg http://www.jurnalul.ro/usr/thumbs//imagini/2011/08/05/thumb_640_x_480/179405-img-3974.jpg http://www.jurnalul.ro/usr/thumbs//imagini/2011/08/05/thumb_640_x_480/179404-img-3997.jpg if you want to see more stadia pictures , Please visit below URL. http://cafe.daum.net/stade/Bucuresti1 (http://cafe.daum.net/stade/5Ay7/835) http://cafe.daum.net/stade/Bucuresti2 (http://cafe.daum.net/stade/5Ay7/722) http://cafe.daum.net/stade/Romania (http://cafe.daum.net/stade/F5E5/20) http://www.fotbal-flash.ro/Stadionul%20National,%202012.jpg adeaide May 1st, 2012, 04:52 AM http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/6300/bu2348.jpg florioco May 8th, 2012, 11:14 AM Tomorrow will be present at the finals. I'll return with pictures of the big event! cornelinho May 8th, 2012, 10:09 PM Images from the training session of the teams (http://www.dolce-sport.ro/fotbal/fotbal-international/surpriz-nepl-cut-pentru-atletico-pe-national-arena-imagini-de-la-antrenament-12657/) pawel19-87 May 9th, 2012, 02:03 PM http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5331/7160293140_e813eff519_b.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/undo_andu/7160293140/ http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7087/7160303976_383e843b08_b.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/undo_andu/7160303976/ http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5034/7160300008_33823f9e14_b.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/undo_andu/7160300008/ luka_crc May 9th, 2012, 07:22 PM Why make it with a roof if is not going to be used?????If it rains,the quality of the game will be severly reduced,so if you have an roof,you must used... gmacruyff May 9th, 2012, 07:32 PM Looks a lot better,with the wallpaper on the grey walls.!(try to attract advertisng on here!) 24days May 9th, 2012, 08:02 PM ^^ True ! They should find a permanent solution for that, also for the outside pillars which looks like shit, all grey, as if the stadium was built in communist regime, where everything was grey and depressing :cripes: :no: DrunkMonkey May 9th, 2012, 08:27 PM Why make it with a roof if is not going to be used?????If it rains,the quality of the game will be severly reduced,so if you have an roof,you must used... it won't. barely rained today, just a few drops. Andy-i May 9th, 2012, 08:41 PM Stadium looking fantastic :banana: Lets hope the game matches the setting! cornelinho May 9th, 2012, 09:39 PM that falcao is one big bastard :)) Dyl070_DH May 9th, 2012, 09:50 PM Two super goals MrChavcore May 9th, 2012, 10:05 PM ^^ True ! They should find a permanent solution for that, also for the outside pillars which looks like shit, all grey, as if the stadium was built in communist regime, where everything was grey and depressing :cripes: :no: i agree. soccer city is exactly the same. looked great with all the fifa branding but just looks like a big concrete mess without it! Gombos May 9th, 2012, 10:33 PM http://storage0.dms.mpinteractiv.ro/media/401/581/14026/9609752/4/untitled-3.jpg?width=610 http://storage0.dms.mpinteractiv.ro/media/401/581/14026/9609752/2/untitled-1.jpg?width=610 http://storage0.dms.mpinteractiv.ro/media/401/581/14026/9609752/8/untitled-7.jpg?width=610 source: prosport SoroushPersepolisi May 9th, 2012, 10:39 PM looked great on tv! and the dark read burgundy colour scheme of the europa cup looks amazing i wish they keep a similar colour instead of those grey walls Gombos May 9th, 2012, 10:40 PM http://i48.tinypic.com/13zoown.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/1416y38.jpg http://i45.tinypic.com/9sfoef.jpg http://i45.tinypic.com/106h37c.jpg cornelinho May 9th, 2012, 11:04 PM 52,347 gmacruyff May 9th, 2012, 11:10 PM Looks a lot better,with the wallpaper on the grey walls.!(try to attract advertisng on here!) Good!:banana:.We all agree-NO MORE GREY WALLS! MrChavcore May 9th, 2012, 11:23 PM i think it also helped that there was so many fans wearing red... almost as if the red theme was planned. luka_crc May 9th, 2012, 11:23 PM A wonderful night,a great game on a superb stadium!!!! undertaker89 May 9th, 2012, 11:44 PM Falcao is a crazy motherfu*** :D Edgar Vix May 10th, 2012, 12:00 AM Atlético de Madrid 3 x 0 Athletic Bilbao UHIjnkCk6rY cornelinho May 10th, 2012, 01:36 AM good bye ... end of the first european finals of 2012 http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/401742_441838342510459_145489145478715_1658428_347429770_n.jpg gmacruyff May 10th, 2012, 01:55 PM What you do now,is turn the stadium into a tourist attraction,by arranging "Tour of stadium",shoing all the inside of the dressing rooms,media centre,walk from the tunnel,photos from the trophy balcony etc,etc.! Maybe 5 tours per day at 10 euros per person.!(approx 50 people per tour) This will create an income of 2500 euros/day.! This will generate a lot more money all year round for the Romanian FA and for Romanian football in general.! pawel19-87 May 10th, 2012, 02:31 PM Europa League Final 2012 Atletico Madrid 3-0 Athletic Bilbao Attendance: 52,347 http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7077/7169780510_6a7eafde68_b.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/radio_romania_international/7169780510/ http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7212/7169780444_ff7714793a_b.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/radio_romania_international/7169780444/ http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7212/7169780210_ff8fe7777c_b.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/radio_romania_international/7169780210/ http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7241/7169780292_1d76db22f1_b.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/radio_romania_international/7169780292/ http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7082/7167867986_43cae74c0b_b.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/undo_andu/7167867986/ http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5323/7167701742_242de46df6_b.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/undo_andu/7167701742/ http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5331/7167680732_c95914445b_b.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/undo_andu/7167680732/ MS20 May 10th, 2012, 02:37 PM Great atmosphere in a great stadium. topalex May 10th, 2012, 02:59 PM I wasnt that impressed with this stadium during construction but I must admit it looked very impressive on TV last night. :cheers: Gombos May 10th, 2012, 04:49 PM thank you for these nice photos Pawel and a panoramic 3D: http://www.gsp.ro/international/finala-europa-league-2012/panorama-superba-3d-n-ai-fost-aseara-pe-national-arena-gazeta-te-invita-in-stadion-330875-infografie.html BOSDAN May 10th, 2012, 06:54 PM I am surprised that over 52,000 showed up, almost a sellout (what is the UEFA capacity of the stadium?). I figured with two Spanish teams playing, the travel would be too far for a lot of fans. www.sercan.de May 10th, 2012, 07:03 PM 52,347 Highest EL since 1998-1999 (61,000) cornelinho May 10th, 2012, 07:11 PM Highest EL since 1998-1999 (61,000) actually sercan... 2003 UEFA Cup Final, 52,972 Seville but still o history was written last night... for romania in special btw first europa league final over 50k :) (hamburg 49k and dublin 45k) www.sercan.de May 10th, 2012, 07:53 PM ups :) But the highest in a football only stadium since 1997 :D PaulFCB May 11th, 2012, 01:04 AM I am surprised that over 52,000 showed up, almost a sellout (what is the UEFA capacity of the stadium?). I figured with two Spanish teams playing, the travel would be too far for a lot of fans. 3 hours flight, others take the bus for 2000 km+, these guys all took the plane, no big deal, you just need the money for the flight, match ticket and a few beers at least. For a fan who sees his team in a final each 35 years ( @Bilbao ) it's def a occasion you can't miss. Also, if they wouldn't have bought all their tickets, they would've been sold to us anyway, while it was exactly the contrary, many of them bought tickets from Romanian's at a pretty big price. Jericho-79 May 11th, 2012, 02:35 AM http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5331/7167680732_c95914445b_b.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/undo_andu/7167680732/ I didn't know Romanian women were so hot. :cheers: pawel19-87 May 11th, 2012, 10:51 AM http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5231/7172045518_8432e49ac6_b.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/danvartanian/7172045518/ http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7101/7172049550_b9079b17fe_b.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/danvartanian/7172049550/ http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8006/7172047172_0ed4e77ec2_b.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/danvartanian/7172047172/ http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7102/7172048224_4eda46db21_b.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/danvartanian/7172048224/ http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7245/7174935918_e2a88056f1_b.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/10403914@N05/7174935918/ http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7228/7174934724_96590b84f2_b.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/10403914@N05/7174934724/ http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8004/7174929420_92cf35ab1a_b.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/10403914@N05/7174929420/ http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7101/7174283626_f734afae7f_b.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/catatanbola/7174283626/ http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5349/7174281892_91ee080643_b.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/catatanbola/7174281892/ PAO13 May 11th, 2012, 02:14 PM Absolutely stunning stadium. The final looked awesome from the TV :cheers: Genē May 11th, 2012, 05:12 PM Really impressive stadium, looked fantastic at night :) Axelferis May 11th, 2012, 08:13 PM it looked better than i thought MrChavcore May 11th, 2012, 10:47 PM its amazing what a bit of branding will do to a stadium! PaulFCB May 11th, 2012, 11:04 PM Here's more :). http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7236/7177883358_c37bd750d2_b.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7074/7177886668_4ed5d91c0e_b.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7091/7177888658_ebcf34a042_b.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7219/7177914394_fc93e56087_b.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7097/7177916528_0b3fc03fa6_b.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7084/7177933212_671d8cf2b3_b.jpg http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8006/7177935826_79497fdd8d_b.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7221/7177941430_797a5fc17f_b.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7228/7177950772_c8daa74f86_b.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7093/7177953974_fa9435b9aa_b.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7085/7177958950_7ec6afdf79_b.jpg http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8025/7177962122_4e07c87544_b.jpg |