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Somnifor
February 29th, 2008, 08:17 AM
Needless to say this will be a big deal for the Twin Cities, especially St Paul.

From today's St Paul Pioneer Press:

Central Corridor planners approve the St. Paul-Minneapolis rail route
While the decision is historic, many major issues must be resolved.
By Dave Orrick
dorrick@pioneerpress.com
Article Last Updated: 02/28/2008 06:32:11 AM CST

We have a route.

Not proposed, not envisioned, but planned — and supported by just about every public official with a say in it.

That's the bottom line after two votes Wednesday chose the route of the Central Corridor light-rail line linking downtown St. Paul and Minneapolis via University Avenue.

What we'll get is a $909.1 million, 11-mile, 20-station train running every 7 minutes, 30 seconds, 21 hours a day, seven days a week for a fare price that likely will be comparable to a bus ticket.

Decades of on-again, off-again hopes for such a connection coalesced in recent weeks as political, civic and business leaders compromised under the hammer of a looming federal deadline.

"This is a quantum leap forward," said Peter Bell, chairman of the Metropolitan Council, which will build the line beginning in 2010 and run trains starting in 2014.

"To get Minneapolis, St. Paul, Hennepin County, Ramsey County, leaders of the Legislature, the University of Minnesota and the FTA (Federal Transit Administration) anywhere near the same page, much less on the same page, is amazing."

While many leaders called the votes historic, plenty of questions remain.

If the federal government signs off on the plan, the line will transform areas in its path, and no one has yet figured out exactly how. For example:

-- A six-block stretch of Washington Avenue through the University of Minnesota will be closed to cars — and possibly buses — to make way
for the two-car trains. Streets surrounding the U's East Bank and West Bank campuses will be significantly altered to handle the traffic; no one yet knows how.
-- University Avenue will be ripped up and resurfaced to accommodate trains running down the middle. Bus schedules will be altered, with some service being eliminated, some scaled back and two north-south routes added. Of the 1,156 curbside parking spaces now serving the thoroughfare's businesses, many will be gone. No one knows how many or how to deal with it. No parking lots are planned.

-- Downtown St. Paul will see trains running along Cedar Street, with parking eliminated and southbound traffic reduced to one lane. The block bounded by Cedar, Minnesota, Fourth and Fifth streets will be diagonally bisected to accommodate the tracks and a station. Along Fourth Street, parking will be eliminated and traffic reduced to one lane — no one knows which way yet — as the train travels to Union Depot in Lowertown, where more roads and potentially buildings will be altered by tracks leading to a train maintenance yard near the Lafayette Bridge over the Mississippi River.

-- The previously rail-less region will have a virtual transit party at the new Minnesota Twins stadium in downtown Minneapolis. There, riders from the Hiawatha Line (serving the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport and the Mall of America), the planned Northstar Line (serving Hennepin and Anoka counties and points northwest) and the Central Corridor will share a station.

It took plenty of compromising to get there.

The U gave up on hopes for a tunnel beneath Washington Avenue on the East Bank campus.

Ramsey County gave up, at least for now, on plans to bring the train to the backside of Union Depot, where it could link with other envisioned transit lines.

And St. Paul and Ramsey County leaders agreed three additional stations along University Avenue — at Hamline Avenue, Victoria Street and Western Avenue — must take a back seat.

Infrastructure for them will be "roughed in," but the only way any will be built before 2014 is if the federal government changes its funding formula, or if other parts of the project appear to be cheaper than now thought. If that happens, building at least one of the stations is top priority, leaders agreed Wednesday.

The Met Council overwhelmingly approved the route Wednesday evening. Hours earlier, a key advisory panel, which includes St. Paul Mayor Chris Coleman, Minneapolis Mayor R.T. Rybak and representatives from the Hennepin and Ramsey county boards and the University of Minnesota, unanimously approved the route.

On Monday, key leaders from the state House and Senate signed off on it during an informal meeting. Bell is appointed by Gov. Tim Pawlenty, who has said he'll support the plan if everyone involved agrees, though a funding plan for the state's share of the cost — about $300 million — has not been formed.

The federal government, which will pay half the construction cost, must give its approval — a lengthy process that will formally begin in September, when the Met Council submits detailed engineering studies of how the project will be built. Officials are confident the plan has a good chance because the route approved Wednesday meets the FTA's complex funding formula.

"Transit funding can have more drama than Lindsay Lohan's social life," Rybak observed.

Indeed, a lot must be done before September, Bell said, "particularly at the university."

The U's Board of Regents has yet to address the route approved Wednesday, and Kathleen O'Brien, vice president for university services, said her vote in favor of the plan was "with reservations."

The U plans to continue studying its preferred options, a pair of paths through Dinkytown and along the northern edge of campus, where a series of new research and academic facilities are planned. Detailed studies on that route won't be available until May or June.

If it turns out that such a route is cheaper or better, officials could decide to go with it, but the move would delay the project at least a year.

O'Brien said her vote in favor of the Washington Avenue ground-level route was largely because the U doesn't want to force an unwarranted delay.

Bell said he's especially concerned about the impact of the so-called "transit mall" that would replace Washington Avenue between Coffman Memorial Union and McNamara Alumni Center.

Although it is not definite, Bell and others involved said it is unlikely cars would be able to use the Washington Avenue Bridge over the Mississippi River, creating a traffic engineering imbroglio.

The plan adopted Wednesday calls for $39 million to deal with traffic snarls created by trains along the entire length of the line, and Bell said he fears, given the scenario at the U, the amount is "woefully inadequate."

The issue could be clarified by March 12, the next scheduled meeting of the advisory panel and the Met Council.

The Central Corridor will be the region's second light-rail line since streetcars disappeared half a century ago. The Hiawatha Line opened in 2004 and has exceeded ridership projections by 65 percent, according to the Met Council.

http://www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_8386089?nclick_check=1

SpiderMonkey
February 29th, 2008, 06:18 PM
I'm jealous.

ablerock
February 29th, 2008, 06:59 PM
Awesome! Congrats, I can't wait to visit Minneapolis this summer. I'm takin' the Megabus as far north as she goes!

Æsahættr
August 5th, 2008, 04:50 AM
University Avenue? I really hope the train gets heavy priority in traffic light signaling.
I was hoping they would go with an almost-no-interruptions I-94 route.

vgmLiquid
August 7th, 2008, 04:13 PM
University Avenue? I really hope the train gets heavy priority in traffic light signaling.
I was hoping they would go with an almost-no-interruptions I-94 route.

The only problem with that is that it doesn't serve the community between downtown minneapolis and downtown saint paul...it would completely bypass it. I do think that they should consider building "bypasses" of all the stations so they could create an "express line" that goes non-stop from downtown to downtown. However that won't happen because they are building the stations in the center of University from my understanding making a bypass like that nearly impossible. They would have to allow the tracks to cross so a train could essentially merge onto the oncoming track and then back onto its own track...which obviously creates additional safety hazards when you take into consideration people walking to approach the tracks and the other trains coming head on. It is possible but would be a logistical nightmare I would imagine.

Somnifor
December 27th, 2008, 07:49 AM
LRT on Cedar to stay put

Met Council swats down MPR's objections about the Central Corridor route.

By JIM FOTI and CHRIS HAVENS, Star Tribune staff writers

Last update: December 23, 2008 - 2:30 PM

Minnesota Public Radio may stay or go, but the Central Corridor light-rail line will not be moved off Cedar Street in St. Paul, Metropolitan Council President Peter Bell said Monday.

In a strongly worded statement, Bell criticized MPR for "using its airwaves and its website to rally its supporters" to push for moving the line off Cedar and away from its studios.

"Extensive testing following Federal Transit Administration guidelines shows vibration and noise impacts ... can be mitigated at MPR," Bell said, noting that Cedar has been the preferred route for many years.

"Cedar Street was properly chosen for the alignment," he concluded. "Cedar Street remains the route."

In a Dec. 10 letter from its attorneys to the Central Corridor office, MPR said that the noise and vibrations from light-rail trains "could well shut down the highly sensitive MPR Broadcast Center, leaving MPR with no practical alternative but to sue" to recover the value of its $100 million building and the costs of relocating.

MPR acknowledged that it and its neighbors "have been generally aware of the potential for LRT on Cedar Street for some time," but said that only in the last six months has MPR been given access to data disclosing the extent of the "significant negative impact" on its facilities.

The letter calls the noise and vibration testing "truly deficient" and accuses researchers of throwing out vibration data that did not conform to their assumptions. Central Corridor trains are expected to pass within 8 to 14 feet of MPR's complex, which includes recording and broadcasting studios and concert halls.

Bell said Monday that "our experienced project engineers, who have worked on other LRT projects around the country," have spelled out numerous ways that the line's impact could be mitigated, from soundproofing the studios to putting a rubber material underneath the tracks.

"Reopening the decision about the alignment would cost tens of millions of dollars and delay the project at a minimum of one year," he said, a sentiment he expressed repeatedly this spring when the University of Minnesota pushed for further study of an alternative route through its Minneapolis campus. After months of often contentious discussions, the "northern alignment" was dropped and the Washington Avenue route restored amid assurances that the university's concerns about traffic and vibrations would be addressed.

"In defense of the U, their cheese got moved," said St. Paul Mayor Chris Coleman, who sits on a Central Corridor planning committee. He was referring to a tunnel under Washington Avenue that was eliminated because of cost concerns.

Coleman has become more vocal in his frustrations with MPR's recent actions, pointing to compromises other stakeholders have made in the name of progress. "What MPR is proposing kills Central Corridor," he said.

MPR needs to understand that local dissent gives the FTA ample reason to refuse the funding request, Coleman said. He noted that the city lent MPR $3.3 million for the expansion.

"We could study this thing for another 10 years, and we'll still say Cedar is the best option," he said.

Jennifer Haugh, a spokeswoman for MPR and American Public Media, said Monday that "the initial environmental impact study of the current alignment did not factor in noise- and vibration-sensitive facilities that are concentrated along Cedar Street" and that federal guidelines require alternative routes to be studied. She also underscored MPR's support for the Central Corridor project.

Too close for comfort?

MPR says it hasn't found a light-rail line running so close to a recording and broadcast facility anywhere in the United States, but it's been in contact with the lead engineer of the Mormon Tabernacle Choir in Salt Lake City, where light-rail trains serve Temple Square.

In an e-mail, the engineer, Trent Walker, says that an underground recording studio is located 120 feet from a rail station and that "since the rail has gone in, the studio is not usable for recording of most programs and has been only usable for rehearsals."

Walker also said trains do not use their bells or horns when passing the tabernacle. "This is the only reason we are able to record and do not have major problems with the train in the hall," he wrote.

The Central Corridor Project Office has said that the use of horns and bells could be limited near MPR and two historic churches just up Cedar Street.

The 11-mile line connecting Minneapolis and St. Paul is estimated at $915 million, with the federal government paying half. Trains are scheduled to begin running in 2014.

http://www.startribune.com/local/stpaul/36607544.html

spectre000
February 15th, 2009, 07:27 AM
Mayor Coleman recently presented a development report on St. Paul (2015), here are a couple of pics from the presentation,

Proposed 4th and Cedar transit hub
http://www.twin-cities-solar-farm.com/4th_-Cedar-Transit-Hub_400x.gif

LRT running on 4th Street in front of Union Depot
http://www.twin-cities-solar-farm.com/Union-Depot2_400x202.gif

Personnally, I think the 4th and Cedar hub looks fantastic, certainly better than the big car lot that sits there right now. I hate seeing that big lot right in the middle of downtown. This really seems like a long ways away, but hopefully this will turn out great for the twin cities.

Major Deegan
February 15th, 2009, 07:32 AM
Personnally, I think the 4th and Cedar hub looks fantastic, certainly better than the big car lot that sits there right now. I hate seeing that big lot right in the middle of downtown.

4th and Minnesota it must be..

Jschmuck
February 17th, 2009, 05:28 AM
im REALLY jealous

congrats, good luck - certainly the CORRECT direction

WinnipegPatriot
February 19th, 2009, 10:01 PM
Yaaaay!!! Great news!

Jschmuck
February 25th, 2009, 05:33 AM
What we'll get is a $909.1 million, 11-mile, 20-station train running every 7 minutes, 30 seconds, 21 hours a day, seven days a week for a fare price that likely will be comparable to a bus ticket.

Wow @ the schedule; There are only 2 cities in America that offer 24hr a day service on certain lines - NY and Chicago...21 hrs a day is very impressive for a city as small as Minneapolis, and very close to 24hrs a day. If the line sees high ridership which it probably will, it could become 24hr a day service to make it the 3rd city in America to offer that. Good job

Sirus
February 26th, 2009, 06:57 AM
More great news for this project.

Rep. McCollum: Light-rail project can be 'shovel-ready by next year'
By Bill Salisbury
Updated: 02/24/2009 11:35:49 AM CST

U.S. Rep. Betty McCollum today said she has secured $20 million for the Central Corridor light-rail project that will cover the final design work "so we can become shovel-ready by next year."

McCollum, a St. Paul Democrat and House Appropriations Committee member, said the $20 million light-rail grant is included in a $410 billion spending package that House and Senate Democratic leaders agreed to Monday to wrap up work on fiscal year 2009 appropriations bills.

Central Corridor, which would link St. Paul and Minneapolis via University Avenue, is the only light-rail project funded in that bill, she said.

With the federal money, "We hope to obtain (Federal Transit Administration) approval to enter final design by early summer and a full funding grant agreement to pay 50% of the total project cost by spring 2010," Steve Dornfeld, the Metropolitan Council's public affairs director, said in an e-mail. "We would start construction in the summer of 2010 and complete it by 2014."

The project will cost $915 million. The council currently has $75.2 million available from all sources, Dornfeld said, but it has all but about $8 million committed from state and local government sources to cover their half of the project's total cost.

McCollum said the federal funding is an important sign that state and local officials and the state's congressional delegation "have gotten our act together so we can compete and make sure that Minnesota's a player and not be left behind"in the competition with other cities for federal transit funding.

The House could act on the appropriations bill as early as Wednesday, she said. Then the Senate will consider it. She said the Obama administration supports the measure.

http://www.twincities.com/allheadlines/ci_11773966?nclick_check=1

Somnifor
February 26th, 2009, 09:50 AM
Awesome.

They have been talking about this thing since I moved here in 1987, and probably longer. I can't shake the feeling that something is going to happen and it will fall through in the end. The state budget worries me.