The Dallas condo market is about to go through some very tough times. It has been widely reported that uptown Dallas is overbuilt. How long do you think it will be before we hear that the Museum Tower has been cancelled?

The Azure is only 25% sold and is almost complete. Not a good sign.

If its not actually cancelled you might want to change your subject line.

Dude, get over yourself already or move the f out of Dallas.

I was just asking a question. No need to be so rude. Don't blame the messenger. Blame the developers who overbuilt Dallas and made the condo market such a risky investment at this time.

What's with all the personal attacks around here. Dallas is nice, but the people sure have a hard time accepting a difference of opinion or unpleasant news. You guys may be in for some hard times.

Let's please keep this thread on topic.

BTW, I have a sinking feeling that you're going to look really stupid come mid-summer.

You already look really stupid.

I have a confident feeling, that YOU will be disappointed beyond words come mid-spring and for the next several years. Not that I'm wishing that on you or anything.

I was just asking a question. No need to be so rude. Don't blame the messenger. Blame the developers who overbuilt Dallas and made the condo market such a risky investment at this time.

What's with all the personal attacks around here. Dallas is nice, but the people sure have a hard time accepting a difference of opinion or unpleasant news. You guys may be in for some hard times.

Let's please keep this thread on topic.

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And just what is the topic of this thread? How you're some condo market insider and have some super scoop that a project that has already sold 12 of the first 20 units and one of the top floor junior penthouses (source: Dallas Morning News article from January 2008) is now cancelled?

As for you're questioning all "the personal attacks around here", why don't you go back and re-read your postings on towards long-time member LSyd about the authenticity of his pictures in the newest Dallas photo thread? Talk about the trolling pot calling the kettle black.

Oh, and I love how you can say that Dallas is nice in one breath and turn around and bash the shit out of the metro area in the next. You're a joke and I wish you would go back to whatever utopia of a town you crawled out of so that you won't be such a miserable bastard anymore.

Wow, such hostility. I don't understand.

I'm only reporting what I've been hearing around Dallas. Many people seem to think that the Museum Tower will never be built. I don't really know, maybe it will. But many people in Dallas have some SERIOUS doubts. But If anyone might be reading this, maybe they would want to be sure they are not making a bad investment deal. I hear people are backing out of the sold units.

I would hope that there aren't too many people who would invest a lot of money, just because they WANT to see a new tower rise. Or is an emotional wreck about it like you and some others on this website.

Usually people can detach themselves about important things like this, without getting all cry-baby about it.

I certainly wouldn't invest any serious money based on some info passed on by the pro-Dallas brigade at this website. They don't sound at all rational about it. They are so biased they can't see anything beyond making things personal.

This isn't personal. So please try to calm down.

Well, for starters, the thread title is a lie.

mods: can we get a ban/brig on this guy?

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Mods - I'm not the one using fowl offensive language. Check out the beginning of LSyd's photo thread.

I'm only asking a question and trying to get some people's opinion who DONT have a pro Dallas agenda. It's not like I'm the one who started the hostilities.

If you start banning people who report bad news you are going to banning a lot of people in the future.

Well, for starters, the thread title is a lie.

Maybe I should have added a question mark in the title. It isn't a fact. It is just the topic of the thread.

But it's too late now.

Guess you people are going to just have to act like grown ups and deal with it.

Maybe I should have added a question mark in the title. It isn't a fact. It is just the topic of the thread.

But it's too late now.

Guess you people are going to just have to act like grown ups and deal with it.

Hey, you're the one who got your hand caught in the cookie jar.

Yes, I'm all broken up over it. But at least I can keep a cool head about it.

Yes, I'm all broken up over it. But at least I can keep a cool head about it.

My webcam isn't working, granted, but I suspect you're a little agitated.

Evidently not as much as you are. And the people who must revert to name calling and personal attacks at the sound of bad news.

Evidently not as much as you are. And the people who must revert to name calling and personal attacks at the sound of bad news.

That's 'resort' to name-calling.

I meant what I said. Revert, as in reverting back to childhood. But 'resort' works too. Take your pick.

I meant what I said. Revert, as in reverting back to childhood. But 'resort' works too. Take your pick.

That's the shame of it: you say what you mean.

Well, I guess it's better than only saying what people want to hear and pretending everything is going to be o.k. when it isn't - just for the sake of making Dallas 'appear' to be a more stable market than it is.

As the condo market suffers, I'm sure there will be projects dramatically scaled down or even cancelled.

Sounds like you have a little vendetta going and that it spilled over into your 'Museum Tower cancelled' thread.

I think your reading more into this thread than there is. It is about the possibility of the Museum Tower being cancelled. Not about me. What's with you guys making everything so personal and about 'me'. I'm only reporting what some people in Dallas are talking about. They aren't talking about 'me' or 'you'. They are talking about the uncertain future of the condo market in Dallas.

Specifically, the High End condo market in Dallas.

Please try and keep this thread on topic.

As the condo market suffers, I'm sure there will be projects dramatically scaled down or even cancelled.

Yes, more than likely. Especially in the more overbuilt markets like Dallas.

The economy and prices are better than in most places, but the bubble still exists because a lot of the growth simply hasn't been real. It's better to get the malinvestments flushed out sooner rather than later.

I hear that people have been backing out of sold condos all over Dallas. Not just this one.

Dude, get over yourself already or move the f out of Dallas.

This would be good advice. Frankly I don't get these Dallas detractors. I used to not like Dallas, in fact I was convinced that Victory would be a random development and I seriously doubted that Dallas was turn into a hotbed of urban design. Dallas has proven itself to me, and it has become nothing but a hotbed of urban design and good development, and I've noticed--others should have, too.

This would be good advice. Frankly I don't get these Dallas detractors. I used to not like Dallas, in fact I was convinced that Victory would be a random development and I seriously doubted that Dallas was turn into a hotbed of urban design. Dallas has proven itself to me, and it has become nothing but a hotbed of urban design and good development, and I've noticed--others should have, too.

Maybe people from Dallas just have a different definition of the term 'good urban design' than people living in the rest of the world. I like mine with not so many surface lots and more people. Sometimes the lack of pedestrians in 'urban' Dallas is downright creepy. Victory is not good urban design. It is cut off from the rest of uptown and it feels like a fortress. That cold, bleak, plain jane architecture is just screams PLASTIC and FAKE. The area will never have a true urban feel or an inviting warm atmosphere.

Wow, that's is a very good point.

^^I think you mean bye to Solid. ;) :wave: He=:banned:

O well, life goes on!

Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah...hey, hey, hey...GOODBYE! :wave:

Yes. I'm sure you will never hear from 'solid' again.

Hey hey hey... Hello again.

Not very solid I guess.