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ppieri
March 3rd, 2008, 07:22 AM
ΕΔΩ ΠΡΟΤΕΙΝΟΥΜΕ ΤΑ ΚΑΛΥΤΕΡΑ ΑΡΧΙΤΕΚΤΟΝΙΚΑ ΕΡΓΑ ΣΤΗΝ ΚΥΠΡΟ (ΑΝΕΞΑΡΤΗΤΩΣ ΚΑΤΑΓΩΓΗΣ ΑΡΧΙΤΕΚΤΟΝΑ) ΚΑΙ ΣΥΖΗΤΟΥΜΕ ΠΩΣ ΚΑΙ ΤΙ ΤΟ ΚΑΝΟΥΝ ΙΔΙΑΙΤΕΡΟ ΑΠΟ ΑΡΧΙΤΕΚΤΟΝΙΚΗΣ ΑΠΟΨΗΣ.

ΣΤΟΧΟΣ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΝΑ ΔΙΑΦΑΝΟΥΝ ΤΑ ΑΡΧΙΤΕΚΤΟΝΙΚΑ ΣΤΟΙΧΕΙΑ ΠΟΥ ΑΝΑΓΝΩΡΙΖΟΝΤΑΙ ΚΑΙ ΓΙΝΟΝΤΑΙ ΑΝΤΙΛΗΠΤΑ ΑΠΟ ΤΟ ΚΟΙΝΟ, ΤΙ ΕΛΚΥΕΙ ΤΟ ΜΑΤΙ ΤΟΥ ¨ΑΝΑΓΝΩΣΤΗ¨, ΕΙΤΕ ΑΥΤΟΣ ΕΧΕΙ ΑΚΑΔΗΜΑΙΚΗ ΚΑΤΑΡΤΙΣΗ ΕΠΙ ΤΟΥ ΘΕΜΑΤΟΣ ΕΙΤΕ ΟΧΙ.

ppieri
March 3rd, 2008, 07:25 AM
ο στοχος ειναι να αναπτυχθει ενας διαλογος μεταξυ ενδιαφερομενων περι αρχιτεκτονικης στην κυπρο. να αναφερθει τι ενοχλει τι ειναι αρεστο και πως ενδεχομενως θα ηθελε να φανει στα εργα αυτα.

sk
March 3rd, 2008, 08:35 AM
poli kali idea ppieri.
tha psaxo to apogeuma sto internet na vro kapoia sxedia kai na ta kano post

sk
May 12th, 2008, 07:15 PM
protasi apo to 2002 gia student hostel sti makedonitissa.den ktistike pote.
emena prosopika mou aresei poli to shedio tou.
epeidi proorizotan gia oikistiko proastio pisteuo pos einai pio idaniko apo kati poli monterno


http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e132/spy78/F1000003_2.jpg

sk
May 12th, 2008, 07:41 PM
a rendering of the design who won the 3rd place in the competition of the new parliament

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e132/spy78/cyprus_parliament.jpg


and here is the pic of the design that took the first prize

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e132/spy78/pa1.jpg


i think the winning design makes th building look more friendly.
the one that took the 3rd place,is very "cold" imo

ACCLIM
May 13th, 2008, 09:45 AM
i like the student hostel. such a beautiful building. i also like the proposal for the house of representatives.it looks modern

arxeos
May 13th, 2008, 01:07 PM
protasi apo to 2002 gia student hostel sti makedonitissa.den ktistike pote.
emena prosopika mou aresei poli to shedio tou.
epeidi proorizotan gia oikistiko proastio pisteuo pos einai pio idaniko apo kati poli monterno


http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e132/spy78/F1000003_2.jpg

krima pou den xtistike

WhiteMagick
May 13th, 2008, 01:38 PM
^^ Symfwnw! Krima pou den ktisthke! Xreiazontai merika pio klassika kthria.

ppieri
May 14th, 2008, 09:47 PM
^^ Symfwnw! Krima pou den ktisthke! Xreiazontai merika pio klassika kthria.

dysthxws den tha symfwnisw mazi sas !!! oi logoi polloi, apo arxitektonikhs kai aisthikis pleuras, alla tha anaferw mono ena, to neoklasiko style den einai elliniko,
einai mia prospatheia apomimisis tou apo tous kentroeuropeous. yparxei kai kupriakh arxitektonikh sthn opoia mporoume na ependysoume.

ppieri
May 14th, 2008, 09:49 PM
epitelous kinisis se auto to post meta apo kati mines! euxaristo gia to endiaferon sas.
elpizw se ena endiaferon dialogo!!!

sk
May 14th, 2008, 10:08 PM
dysthxws den tha symfwnisw mazi sas !!! oi logoi polloi, apo arxitektonikhs kai aisthikis pleuras, alla tha anaferw mono ena, to neoklasiko style den einai elliniko,
einai mia prospatheia apomimisis tou apo tous kentroeuropeous. yparxei kai kupriakh arxitektonikh sthn opoia mporoume na ependysoume.

hm....den to eiha pote skeftei etsi to thema.....den tha elega ohi se ena megalo ktirio me paradosiaki arhitektoniki.
tha ithela mono na rotiso,to parthenagogio faneromenis kai to eleneio ti arhitektonikis einai?theorountai neoklassika?
pisteuo pos o oros neoklassika einai parexsigimenos stin kypro....

ppieri
May 14th, 2008, 10:40 PM
kai ta dyo einai deigmata, apo to poio endeiktika malista, kypriakou neoklassikismou. h men fanerwmeni, prosegizei kathara tis arxes tou neoklassikismou. to eleneio de, exei kai kapoia stoixeia, oxi entelws ksekathara apo kypriaka erethismata.

sk
May 14th, 2008, 10:47 PM
poia ktiria(an exseresoume mikra spitia) einai deigmata paradosiakis arxitektonikis?

ppieri
May 14th, 2008, 11:20 PM
poia ktiria(an exseresoume mikra spitia) einai deigmata paradosiakis arxitektonikis?
dysthxws deigmata topikhs arxitektonikhs einai synhthw kai kata kanona ta dhmosia kthria kapoias xwras h kapoiou topou.
pote ena kinima h i ena style arxitektonikhs den eixe kai den prokeite na exei ethnikotita! mporei na efarmozetai se mia perioxh memonomena omws.
h paradosiakh arxitektonikh sthn kypro den einai ksekathari oute kai apokrystallwmenh opws as poume thn balkanikh arxitektonikh. h kypriakh arxitektonikh einai sunyfasmeni me thn laikh arxitektonikh giati mesa sta 5000 xiliades xronia istorias auto tou topou exoun perasei kai exoun afhsei stoixeia poloi katakthtes. mporw na dwsw 2 stoixeia pou kata tin apopsi mou xarakthrizoun thn kypriakh arxitektonikh 1. to klassiko paradeigma katoikias, ftwxikhs h plousias , opou me thn eisodo mpaineis ston "hliako" kai to dwmatia einai paratagmena 2 dexia kai 2 aristera, me mia porta pros sthn aulh sto bathos tou hliakou. opu briskonta ta bohthitika tis oikias p.x. "to maeirko", "to plystarko" ktl.
2. ektos apo tis texnotropoies kai ta diakosmitika h kypriakh arxitektonikh brisketai se alla pragmata ta opoia den einai amesa antileipta apo thn prwth matia.p.x. o perimetrikos diadromos tou aithriou(prospathise na thimitheis ena monasthri kai tha katalaveis). o prosanatolismos to ypsos twn dwmation, pou briskontai ta anoigmata kai ti megethos exoun, h xrhsh ylikwn kata perioxh.

kai gia na ikanopoihsw to aithma sou :
1) to arxontiko ths odou axiotheas sth xrysalliniwtisa sto agio kassiano.
2) ta monasthria (alla xwris to neobyzantino "glit" me tous granites ktl)
3) to buyoguk khan ( to kthrio tou EVKAF) sthn katexomenh leukosia
kai oso kai ean sas fenetai apithano to prwto kthrio sthn kypro sthn opoia egine prospatheia entakshs this topikhs arxitektonikhs kai ths istorias tou topou egine apo tous aextheis agglous katakthtes me th kataskeuh tou shmerinou PROEDRIKOU MEGAROU tote doihkhthrio toy ypatou armosth kai kybernhth ths kyprou.

sk
May 14th, 2008, 11:49 PM
euharisto gia tis plirofories!to proedriko nomiza pos itan apoikiokratikou rythmou kai den eihe na kanei tipota me paradosiaki arxitektoniki!poso megalo lathos ekana....

SouthernEuropean
May 15th, 2008, 07:45 AM
Efxaristo gia tis plirofories,alla tha borouse kapoios na deixei kai photografies gia na katalavoume peri tinos prokeitai?,pragmatika de xero ti na skefto otan skeftomai paradosiakh Kypriakh arxitektonikh

WhiteMagick
May 15th, 2008, 12:33 PM
^^ Symfwnw. Oute egw 3erw! me exete sigxisei teliws! lol

sk
May 15th, 2008, 01:57 PM
tha psaxo na vro photos na kano post,alla an mporei o ppieri na mas pei pia einai ta paradosiaka stoiheia pou yparhoun sto proedriko i sto bugyuk khan giati de mporo na diakrino kati paradosiako....

ppieri
May 15th, 2008, 05:09 PM
tha psaxo na vro photos na kano post,alla an mporei o ppieri na mas pei pia einai ta paradosiaka stoiheia pou yparhoun sto proedriko i sto bugyuk khan giati de mporo na diakrino kati paradosiako....

megalh anastatwsh prokalesa :nuts:

mallon me sxoliasmo foto tha itan kalytera ontws.
epeidi den mporw na kanw post fotos akoma (den exw brei xrono na epileksw kai tis kanw upload sto net akoma) ean mporei kapoios na tis kanei post tha mas eksyphretouse afantasta.

sk
May 15th, 2008, 07:26 PM
hehe...anastatosi epimorfotikou xaraktira,ara einai euprosdekti!!
3 photos tou buyuk khan stin katehomeni lefkosia....elpizo na voithoun.
i proti einai apo ton xristi tou flickr ,tulipa turcica kai oi alles 2 apo ton hasan_e_beton

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e132/spy78/48504524_5fd65ab048_o.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e132/spy78/hasanebeton.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e132/spy78/hasanebeton2.jpg

ppieri
May 15th, 2008, 08:34 PM
thanks sk :banana:

kai pali einai dyskolo na diakrinoume ta stoixeia pou orizoun thn kypriakh arxitektonikh. loipon to poio emfanes einai h xrhsh ths pouropetras, kathara domiko yliko ths kyprou. deutero einai h perimetrikh anoikth stoa, trito oi kamares pou einai apsidwtes (gothikes) kataloipo tvn enetwn kai tvn fragkwn.

den mporw na brw kapoia alla stoixeia kai auta pou eipa einai toso prodhla pou den xreiazetai na eisai kapoios me phd gia na to peis.

synhthws ta megala kthria pou exoun kapoious aiwnes sth plath tous feroun to xarakthra tou ekastote katakthth alla me kapoia stoixeia apo to kypriako ypobathro logo tou oti oi ergates htan ntopioi.

ean theloume na doume kanonika to thema prepei na eksetasoume paradosiakous oikoismous kai pali kata kathgoria. den mporoume na sygrinoume thn arxitektonikh twn oreinwn perioxwn me auth ths mesaorias. oute thn astikh arxitektonikh ths entos twn teixwn me auth ths palias aglantjias h tou paliou strovolou.

gia na paretai kapoia bash gia to ti psaxnoume deite to binteo apo to arxeio ths ERT (7) ΑΡΧΙΤΕΚΤΟΝΙΚΟΙ ΔΡΟΜΟΙ ΜΝΗΜΗ ΚΑΙ ΔΙΑΧΡΟΝΙΚΟΤΗΤΑ
ΔΗΜΗΤΡΗΣ ΠΙΚΙΩΝΗΣ, ΑΡΗΣ ΚΩΝΣΤΑΝΤΙΝΙΔΗΣ

http://www.ert-archives.gr/wpasV2/public/c02-arch-search.aspx

o ΑΡΗΣ ΚΩΝΣΤΑΝΤΙΝΙΔΗΣ mila gia to pws stoixeiotheteitai h ellinikh arxitektonikh, h kypriakh den apexei kai poly apo auto to montelo.

DYSTHXWS mono me INTERNET EXPLORER anoigei, osoi exoun ton firefox den mporoun.

SouthernEuropean
May 15th, 2008, 08:39 PM
endiaferouses plirofories file THANKS-tora tha koitaxo to documentary pou edoses se link.

sk
May 15th, 2008, 08:46 PM
thanks ppieri!poli hrisimes plirofories!
pote den to perimena pos ena othomaniko ktirio tha itan toso entona epireasmeno apo tin topiki arhitektoniki!!!wow!

ppieri
May 15th, 2008, 08:50 PM
deite to binteo kai tha katalabete. o kwstantinidhs ta leei toso kala . den leei poia einai, alla bazontas ena neo sygxrono kataskeuasma ermhneyei thn logikh pisw apo auto.

ppieri
May 15th, 2008, 08:56 PM
sk den nomizw na einai othomaniko to kthrio! ta stoixeia tou mallon lene oti einai epoxhs enetokratias. oi othomanoi pou exoun mia arxitekonikh poly sovari me stoixeia perasmena mesa apo thn koultoura tous kai thn theiskia tous xrhsimopoioun kyklikes kamares. opws episis kai oi stauroeidhs ptyxwseis tvn stown einai europaikh arxitektonikh gothiki. meta thn katalhpsh ths leukosias tha to eferan sta metras tous mallon.

sk
May 15th, 2008, 09:11 PM
The inn was built in 1570 A.D. by Muzaffer Pasha according to the site "antiquites of turkish nicosia"

ppieri
May 15th, 2008, 09:21 PM
hmmm ligo periergo mou fenete! 9 iouliou 1570 mpikan oi tourkoi sthn leukosia kai oloklhrh thn kypro thn katelavan to 1571 me thn ptwsh ths ammoxwstou an h mnhmh mou den me apata! pws kataferan mesa se 6 mines na to ektisan? mallon to brikan miso teliwmeno... kapws kai to teliwsan autoi. toulaxiston etsi leei h logikh mou. an kapoios exei alla stoixeia...

sk
May 15th, 2008, 09:26 PM
i mporei kai to site na leei vlakeies.....tonizei xsekathara pos to khani "is not a medieval building".....i wonder why...:)(tourkiki propaganda)?

ppieri
May 15th, 2008, 09:33 PM
einai mallon propaganda alla kai ilithia propaganda afou ontas 1570 einai mesaiwnas auth apopoiounta ths istorias orizontas tous eautous tous ektos xronikhs grammhs. dhladh symfwna me auto tous to sxolio th epoxh itan ? alla mallon tous fantazomai na apantoun eirwnika " the beginning of a new era"
:bash:

ppieri
May 15th, 2008, 09:46 PM
alla panw se mia grhgorh ereuna eida oti to khani ktistike apo tous othomanous peripou to 1572, to leei kai to tmhma arxaiothtwn ths kybernhshs http://www.mcw.gov.cy/mcw/DA/DA.nsf/All/BC8DB498E39DA650C2257276003EA4CD?OpenDocument
an einai ontos etsi ta pragmata , giati na amfibaloume allwste, erxetai na tonish thn thesi tou kwstantinidh peri mnhmhs. pithanon na to ektisan oi othomanoi xrhshmopoiontas kyproious ergates kai autoi to ektisan opws hkseran, dld opws tous emathan.

sk
May 15th, 2008, 09:50 PM
tha psaxo na do mipos mporo na vro perissoteres plirofories apo kanena diko ma site

sk
May 15th, 2008, 09:50 PM
hehe....me prolaves!

sk
May 15th, 2008, 09:52 PM
pithanon na to ektisan oi othomanoi xrhshmopoiontas kyproious ergates
auto einai to mono sigouro,pou den hreiazetei epivevaiosi....

WhiteMagick
May 16th, 2008, 03:32 AM
Twra arxizw na katalaivw gia to se ti anaferese otan les kypriakh arxitektonikh! to xani einai ontws poly wraio. mou 8ymhzei ta ktiria se polla monasthria, mono pou auta exoun kai keramidenia stegh to opoio ta kanei gia mena akoma pio wraia. to kthrio pou 8a htane na ktistei mou aresei giati einai paromoio alla isws me ligh dosh monternou. fysika auth einai h dikh mou gnwmh kai eidikos sthn arxitektonikh den eimai! lol euxaristw gia oles tis plhrofories! :)

ppieri
May 16th, 2008, 09:00 PM
pantos den aporiptw oti fernei se neoklassiko! aplws tha ithela ta nea kthria na exoun auth thn mnhmh pou kouvalame tosa xronia. dhldh oi palioi pou den hkseran apo akadhmaikh arxitektonikh hkseran pws na kthzoun ( kai synthetika kai oikodomika), hkseran ti ylika na xrhshmopoihsoun, hkseran ti dynatothtes ixan, hkseran ti synthikes periballontos epikratousan. h arxitektonikh htan biwmatikh, kai legontas biwmatikh den yponow mono tis anages tous se stegash alla safws kai aisthika afou h diakosmhsh den einai perith.
opws ena deipno prepei na ikanopoiei oles tis aisthiseis etsi kai h arxitektonikh, ti ennow?
to faghto prepei na fenetai wraio, na exei wraia geush, na myrizei wraia, na einai wraio sthn afh( na sou dinei ikanh aisthish otan to kobeis kai otan to masas) mexri twra ikanopoioume 4 aisthiseis poia menei? h akoh!!! giauto sto deipno yparxei h mousikh einai auto to extra pou kanei thn diafora, auto pou symlhrwnei to olo. e loipon h mousikh einai h diakosmhsh stin arxitektonikh. den prepei na yperexei gia na kalyptei ta asxhma alla na anadeiknyei ta wraia.

sk
June 10th, 2008, 09:28 PM
next project for discussion!
a relatively old proposal by some dutch architects(if i am not mistaken) for a media center in nicosia

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e132/spy78/1412838801_d657630cc6_o.jpg

WhiteMagick
June 11th, 2008, 02:16 AM
Media center? And that means what exactly? where is/was it supposed to be built?

sk
June 11th, 2008, 12:27 PM
an den kano lathos eihe protathei gia periohi konta sti nekri zoni.
media center apo oti katalava ennoousan to ktirio gia sunenteuxseis kai enimeroseis tou kyvernitikou ekprosopou kai allon kyvernitikon axsiomatouhon

sk
June 25th, 2008, 12:09 PM
I would like to ask your opinions about something i was thinking lately.
Do you think that all these new modern buildings that are being constructed these days using mainly stone as a major construction material(era house,aias,elliniki trapeza etc) will last the test of time?
Will they become after 50 years "diatiritaia"?will they become the new "dimarxeio lemesou" or the new "parthenagogeio faneromenis"?Are we going through a local architectural revolution?
Examples of these new buildings:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e132/spy78/DSC00978.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e132/spy78/DSC00976.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e132/spy78/DSC00112.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e132/spy78/DSC00117.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e132/spy78/DSC00100.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e132/spy78/DSC00097.jpg

WhiteMagick
June 25th, 2008, 03:18 PM
Nai. Giati einai kati meta3i paradosiakou kai monternou. To 2o kai to 3o ktirio eidika gia mena einai poly omorfa.

pilotos
June 25th, 2008, 03:25 PM
The truth is that i do like all of those, but other than the stone which is as you said a material, there is nothing architecturally common between them that could classify a new architectural type, and only the two first buildings elaborate some classic elements, so my answer would be no they wont make it to a future list due to their architectural elements.
But i think that they do represent the beginning of a new era and so maybe for social reasons they could be listed.

ppieri
June 25th, 2008, 08:30 PM
pali tha me vrite antitheto gia ta kthria auta! emena to style tous mou thimizei art deco me kypriakh epiroi :) adiaforo arxitektonika gia mena.
h petra pou exoun einai ependysh kai oxi domiko stoixeio! diathrhteo den nomizw na ginei pote kata thn gnwmh mou. o logos einai oti apo pleuras arxitektonikhs den exoun kati na prosferoun. mporei na efarmozoun kapoia stoixeia apo paradosiakh arxitektonikh alla h efarmogh auth einai akyrh giati
1) einai ena psilo kthrio kai exei stoixeia pou antapokrinontai se xamhla kthria! 2) h petra pou exoun san ependysh den einai krithrio gia na xarakthristei diathrhteo sto mellon.

sk
June 25th, 2008, 10:02 PM
thank you pilotos and ppieri ! very interesting opinions

Akragas
June 25th, 2008, 10:33 PM
Παιδια σας χαιρετω. Χαιρομαι ιδιαιτερα γιατι βλεπω οτι υπαρχουν παιδια που τα ενδιαφεροντα και οι εγνοιες τους ξεπερνουν τα προσωπικα πλαισια και στοχευουν στο κοινο καλο και την κοινωνικη προοδο- πραγμα ασυνηθες ή τελος παντων μη κοινοτυπο.

sk
June 25th, 2008, 11:09 PM
Παιδια σας χαιρετω. Χαιρομαι ιδιαιτερα γιατι βλεπω οτι υπαρχουν παιδια που τα ενδιαφεροντα και οι εγνοιες τους ξεπερνουν τα προσωπικα πλαισια και στοχευουν στο κοινο καλο και την κοινωνικη προοδο- πραγμα ασυνηθες ή τελος παντων μη κοινοτυπο.
kalosorises stin parea mas!euharistoume gia ta kala sou logia!

systema magicum
September 4th, 2008, 04:58 PM
gnwrizei kaneis an exoun arxisei oi ergasies gia to politistiko kentro stin leukosia pou sxediase o gmwstos arxitektonas michael hopkins?
http://www.hopkins.co.uk/projects/_1,124/