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murlee
June 3rd, 2011, 09:48 AM
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Vicvin86
June 3rd, 2011, 11:22 AM
Sorry for bigger pictures!

Quality of pic is not good.

Ariel pictiures of IRR Metro elevated part u/c

b/w Ashok Nagar and Vadapalani part



Vadapalani Junction - Just pillar works started, it may take 1yr to get the shape here for road flyover on IRR and higher metro pillars.


between Vadapalani and before CMBT


Nice Updates Arul :cheers:

crazychennaite
June 3rd, 2011, 11:52 AM
OH MY GODDDDDDDDD....:cripes::wallbash:


my sentiments exactly......

Abhishek901
June 3rd, 2011, 12:32 PM
When they will understand that monorails cannot handle huge passenger movements of a mega city, and that too a growing one !!

that is not the case here. In Chennai, bot the corridors meet at an elevated and an underground station. so the entire elevated stretch can be used even if only it is open. :)

Thanks. That answers my concern. As far as I remember, the two corridors meet each other twice. While the southern part of these lines is elevated, the nothern part is underground, which means the souther interchange will be operational in time.

Opening elevated stretch first gives the illusion of showing some progress much earlier in the project.

Yeah. It does. But the metro corporation will heavily bleed because the number of pax will not be high until a larger and interconnected network is there while they will have to provide all the services even if the crowd is not there.

arun82
June 3rd, 2011, 01:28 PM
Yeah. It does. But the metro corporation will heavily bleed because the number of pax will not be high until a larger and interconnected network is there while they will have to provide all the services even if the crowd is not there

The elevated corridor connects the South Asia's Largest bus complex with the city and will be on the busiest road in chennai. So there will enough load factor .

arun82
June 3rd, 2011, 01:33 PM
RIP to future phases of Chennai Metro!!

Cant say that ..mono cannot handle huge volumes and Metro cannot be built in congested parts of the city . So Mono for Chennai and Metro for greater Chennai will be ideal transport solution.

Mono in North madras like manadi , washermepet, seven wells, ayanavaram, madavaram, otteri etc is the ideal solution given the congestion.

Metro to places like ORR, Velachery-Tamabaram, Ponnammalee-Vadapalani, Red hills- parrys etc will be ideal

Abhishek901
June 3rd, 2011, 02:28 PM
The elevated corridor connects the South Asia's Largest bus complex with the city and will be on the busiest road in chennai. So there will enough load factor .

Actually the fare in metro for short distances is very high. It gradually becomes cheaper for long distances. Also in metro one has to enter a station to board a trains (this process takes about 3 min), then exiting will again take 2-3 minutes. 2-5 minutes wait for the train at platform. And the journey itself might take only 8 minutes. So you can see that for short distances journey in metro not only takes more money but more time also.

Have seen the same in Delhi also. In May 2010, DMRC opened a 14 km section of yellow line (Qutab Minar - Gurgaon). There was another section in the yellow line (Central Secretariat - Qutab Minar) which was still under construction and the Jahangirpuri - Central Sectretariat section was already operational.

Because of this the Qutab Minar - Gurgaon section remained disconnected with rest of the yellow line and rest of the metro system as well (since it did not have any interchange station) till the middle portion (Central Secretariat - Qutab Minar) opened.

Even though the length of the section was 14 km which is not less but there was hardly any crowd at that time. Only when the middle portion opened in Sept 2010, the crowd in the same disconnected section multiplied because it allowed people from Gurgaon to go anywhere in the metro network.

Very few people use metro when you provide them small and disconnected sections of metro.

arun82
June 3rd, 2011, 02:58 PM
Actually the fare in metro for short distances is very high. It gradually becomes cheaper for long distances. Also in metro one has to enter a station to board a trains (this process takes about 3 min), then exiting will again take 2-3 minutes. 2-5 minutes wait for the train at platform. And the journey itself might take only 8 minutes. So you can see that for short distances journey in metro not only takes more money but more time also.

Have seen the same in Delhi also. In May 2010, DMRC opened a 14 km section of yellow line (Qutab Minar - Gurgaon). There was another section in the yellow line (Central Secretariat - Qutab Minar) which was still under construction and the Jahangirpuri - Central Sectretariat section was already operational.

Because of this the Qutab Minar - Gurgaon section remained disconnected with rest of the yellow line and rest of the metro system as well (since it did not have any interchange station) till the middle portion (Central Secretariat - Qutab Minar) opened.

Even though the length of the section was 14 km which is not less but there was hardly any crowd at that time. Only when the middle portion opened in Sept 2010, the crowd in the same disconnected section multiplied because it allowed people from Gurgaon to go anywhere in the metro network.

Very few people use metro when you provide them small and disconnected sections of metro.

I travelled in this line last year and was the longest metro travel i ever had and got in Qutub Minar in the return direction. In Chennai one end is fed by the main bus complex and the other end with Sub urban train station which is one of India's Largest sub urban train service. In between there are many Commercial and residential areas. This is a 15 Km line

murlee
June 3rd, 2011, 03:08 PM
Yes Abhishek.. This road u guys r talking about is absolutely choked with traffic.. It has a lot of important junctions on its way inc. IT parks, commercial places and 1 SRM campus apart from the CMBT bus terminus! Its a really busy road and actually people r waiting for this line to open...

vijayvmail
June 3rd, 2011, 04:44 PM
Cant say that ..mono cannot handle huge volumes and Metro cannot be built in congested parts of the city . So Mono for Chennai and Metro for greater Chennai will be ideal transport solution.

Mono in North madras like manadi , washermepet, seven wells, ayanavaram, madavaram, otteri etc is the ideal solution given the congestion.

Metro to places like ORR, Velachery-Tamabaram, Ponnammalee-Vadapalani, Red hills- parrys etc will be ideal

There are lot of things that will be "ideal".

Who is thinking about "ideal" here? If anyone thought so, we would have become a world class place long back.

If the next government is a new party, then it will implement something totally different than both Metro and monorail - probably start cutting canals all across the city and let out boats - we will then declare the city as "Venice of India" and start a thread for that.

tokavin
June 3rd, 2011, 05:55 PM
I would be happy if they finish the metro rail project first. It would be a disaster if they work on both metro and monorail. I am not sure how they can finance both metro and monorail simultaneously.

gvenke
June 3rd, 2011, 09:23 PM
I was browsing through Google on Chennai Monorail and I came across this news. What is going on?


The metro rail project for Chennai is to be stopped and replaced with a monorail one. The new government has said public transportation accounts for 27 per cent of all journeys and by 2026 this had to be raised to 46 per cent.

“To achieve this target, the new government has formulated a Multi Modal Transport system for Chennai. The Metro Rail Project was planned for 45 km. The cost of the project is high and it is also taking a lot of time. Taking this account, it has been decided implement a monorail. As part of phase-I, 111 km has been planned, which will be increased to 300 km.”

The government is also considering the same project in other cities in the state, including Coimbatore and Madurai.

Link: http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/jaya-govt-ends-dmks-pet-schemes/437822/

bharani.nitt
June 4th, 2011, 12:06 AM
I was browsing through Google on Chennai Monorail and I came across this news. What is going on?


The metro rail project for Chennai is to be stopped and replaced with a monorail one. The new government has said public transportation accounts for 27 per cent of all journeys and by 2026 this had to be raised to 46 per cent.

“To achieve this target, the new government has formulated a Multi Modal Transport system for Chennai. The Metro Rail Project was planned for 45 km. The cost of the project is high and it is also taking a lot of time. Taking this account, it has been decided implement a monorail. As part of phase-I, 111 km has been planned, which will be increased to 300 km.”

The government is also considering the same project in other cities in the state, including Coimbatore and Madurai.

Link: http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/jaya-govt-ends-dmks-pet-schemes/437822/

They will stop with the metro rail work after phase 1 is over ! So the 45 kms of Metro will be complete whatsoever !

There will be no Phase 2 of Chennai Metro is what they mean !

The phase 2 will be replaced by Monorail !

gvenke
June 4th, 2011, 03:37 AM
They will stop with the metro rail work after phase 1 is over ! So the 45 kms of Metro will be complete whatsoever !

There will be no Phase 2 of Chennai Metro is what they mean !

The phase 2 will be replaced by Monorail !


Thanks for clarifying that bharani.nitt. I was a bit furious when I read that news though.

Vicvin86
June 4th, 2011, 06:19 AM
Near Hot Chips, Ashok Pillar
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Near Maruti TVS, 100 Feet Road.
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Near Lakshman Sruthi
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Vicvin86
June 4th, 2011, 06:21 AM
Ambal Nagar.
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Olympia Tech Park
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Near Kasi Theater Bridge
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Vicvin86
June 4th, 2011, 06:23 AM
Near Garrison Church, GST Road.
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Crane near OTA, GST Road.
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Vicvin86
June 4th, 2011, 06:28 AM
The distance between the plane and crane is somewhere between 70-80mts

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Pressi
June 4th, 2011, 06:42 AM
Can someone provide the pros and cons of Metro and monorail for a city like Chennai - size, space, traffic volume are the important factors I suppose...

sshivakumar
June 4th, 2011, 07:17 AM
^^ Awesome updates Vicvin.. thanks..!!

lexraja
June 4th, 2011, 07:28 AM
Thanks for clarifying that bharani.nitt. I was a bit furious when I read that news though.

^^

+1

My concern is with each of these governments starting their own pet projects with no consideration what so ever to the ones already in progress ,we might end up having a bunch of half baked and disconnected transport corridors crisscrossing the city each satisfying only the mindless egos of these individual governments . If that happen Chennai could end up being the laughing stock of the whole country .Gosh I don't want that to happen . :ohno:

bharani.nitt
June 4th, 2011, 07:50 AM
^^

+1

My concern is with each of these governments starting their own pet projects with no consideration what so ever to the ones already in progress ,we might end up having a bunch of half baked and disconnected transport corridors crisscrossing the city each satisfying only the mindless egos of these individual governments . If that happen Chennai could end up being the laughing stock of the whole country .Gosh I don't want that to happen . :ohno:

Actually if we look at cities in US like Seattle , Las Vegas which are more or less comparable to Chennai with congested roads, they opted for monorail instead of metro !

We are no Shanghai or Tokyo or Seoul to afford an entire metro rail system. Hopefully, this Monorail will serve as a good feeder system !

N.kumar
June 4th, 2011, 08:56 AM
Some one please give split up of funding by state, centre and japan so far. I suspect state is nearing its quota. centre released 600 odd only this budget.

if at all any delays can come in it may be due to centre funding and pace with which stations are being built.

N.kumar
June 4th, 2011, 08:59 AM
So looks like thiruvottriyur portion of metro is shelved as its is just 45 mentioned. That means thiruvottriyur will be on mono map.

infraguru
June 4th, 2011, 09:57 AM
whoaaa!!! check this out

http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/jaya-govt-ends-dmks-pet-schemes/437822/ :bleep:

murlee
June 4th, 2011, 10:25 AM
Great pics!!! What area is that in the backdrop?? cluster of midrises..

The distance between the plane and crane is somewhere between 70-80mts

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bharani.nitt
June 4th, 2011, 10:26 AM
whoaaa!!! check this out

http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/jaya-govt-ends-dmks-pet-schemes/437822/ :bleep:

Relax ! I listened to the Guv's speech entirely !

The insurance scheme still remains , only thing the word "Kalaignar" is removed from it and Star Health will not be the party in this one. They will negotiate with other insurance providers.

Next, the housing scheme ,same thing , the word "Kalaignar" is removed and it is renamed as Tamil Nadu housing scheme or something and power will be provided through solar power instead of promised free thermal power !

1st phase of metro will be done anyway, that will not be halted. 2nd phase of metro due to start in 2014 or something will be scrapped and replaced by mono rail. Isn't it better ? Instead of waiting for phase 1 to be complete , Monorail construction can be started in parallel and both constructions can go in parallel rather than waiting for phase 1 to be complete and then start phase 2 .

wlbkng
June 4th, 2011, 10:29 AM
Thanks for the pics Vinoth!

N.kumar
June 4th, 2011, 10:35 AM
seems 90% of state share of metro done already. remaining centre and japan bank.

Arul Murugan
June 4th, 2011, 10:59 AM
Vicvin nice photos.:cheers:


seems 90% of state share of metro done already. remaining centre and japan bank.

Can you share more info.?

It is for 2010-2011 financial year or for entire project! Break up would be useful.

Now the game will start as center will delay the funds(may be DMK too poking nose) like MRTS and then potray that present gvt is not interested in metro rail.:nuts:

Vicvin86
June 4th, 2011, 11:35 AM
^^ Awesome updates Vicvin.. thanks..!!

Vicvin nice photos.:cheers:


Thanks Shivakumar and Arul!

Thanks for the pics Vinoth!

You're welcome wlbkng!

Great pics!!! What area is that in the backdrop?? cluster of midrises..

The group of buildings on the left is RMZ Millenia Business Park and the one in the center and right are apartments along Velechery 100 feet road.

Abhishek901
June 4th, 2011, 01:33 PM
Actually if we look at cities in US like Seattle , Las Vegas which are more or less comparable to Chennai with congested roads, they opted for monorail instead of metro !

We are no Shanghai or Tokyo or Seoul to afford an entire metro rail system. Hopefully, this Monorail will serve as a good feeder system !

Seattle, Las Vegas are much smaller than Chennai and will not grow as fast as Chennai in future as well. Chennai is not Shanghai or Seoul but that doesn't mean it will never be. Cities like London and Paris didn't wait to become rich and huge to start building their metro networks.

A large network of monorail replacing metro will limit the scope of expansion of Chennai because it is slow and has far lesser capacity than metro.

N.kumar
June 4th, 2011, 01:39 PM
Arul,

check the ir forum metro thread. there are some postings there.

Vicvin86
June 4th, 2011, 01:44 PM
Seattle, Las Vegas are much smaller than Chennai and will not grow as fast as Chennai in future as well. Chennai is not Shanghai or Seoul but that doesn't mean it will never be. Cities like London and Paris didn't wait to become rich and huge to start building their metro networks.

A large network of monorail replacing metro will limit the scope of expansion of Chennai because it is slow and has far lesser capacity than metro.

Chennai has a well developed suburban rail network whose three lines are efficient for long distance travel say up-to 70kms from city center. A well planned monorail could act as feeder to these lines.

darkprinz
June 4th, 2011, 01:47 PM
VicVin86 Excellent updates ,... Worth keeping as desktop wallpaper ... :) Those pillars in Olympia tech park photo , is that for Station ..They look different and wide ...

N.kumar
June 4th, 2011, 01:50 PM
http://www.dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=590335&disdate=8/28/2010&advt=2

in aug 2010 So far central Govt alloted 152 crores and state Govt alloted 1050 crores

total shares.

Of the total allocation, Rs.11,680 crore will be the share of the State and Rs.2,920 crore the Centre's contribution. Of the State's share, Rs.8,646 crore will be received as loan from JICA and Rs.3,034 crore will be met from the State's funds.

We will have to check how much was transfered between then and now

Abhishek901
June 4th, 2011, 01:57 PM
Chennai has a well developed suburban rail network whose three lines are efficient for long distance travel say up-to 70kms from city center. A well planned monorail could act as feeder to these lines.

Mumbai also has 3 lines with quadruple tracks, still it is building a big metro network (146.5 km). Delhi has 6 railways lines (5 radial and 1 circular) on which EMUs operate, still Delhi is building over 400 km of metro plus over 700 km of high speed commuter rail. Hyderabad too has rail lines and MMTS still it is going for a large metro network. Same with Kolkata.

And these cities are not doing anything different from what cities like London, Tokyo, Paris, etc did. Even if govt hasn't learned from other cities' century old experiences, then it would spell disaster for the city.

Vicvin86
June 4th, 2011, 02:04 PM
Mumbai also has 3 lines with quadruple tracks, still it is building a big metro network (146.5 km). Delhi has 6 railways lines (5 radial and 1 circular) on which EMUs operate, still Delhi is building over 400 km of metro plus over 700 km of high speed commuter rail. Hyderabad too has rail lines and MMTS still it is going for a large metro network. Same with Kolkata.

And these cities are not doing anything different from what cities like London, Tokyo, Paris, etc did. Even if govt hasn't learned from other cities' century old experiences, then it would spell disaster for the city.

Well the size of Chennai city is still 174 sq km which is much smaller than Delhi, London, Mumbai or Hyderabad. The suburbs are also located along the trunk roads and along the suburban lines. Anyways going by CMs previous terms I hardly doubt the mono rail project will proceed beyond renders.

vinblr
June 4th, 2011, 02:04 PM
Oo... Then, feel if Amma allies with UPA, Centre will continue full support.. Else CM will have the fate of Namma Metro, B'lore...

Here too state's funding is almost completed, centre is yet to release its full quota.. Feel NM is banking on Japanese Loans for the ongoing works...

Some one please give split up of funding by state, centre and japan so far. I suspect state is nearing its quota. centre released 600 odd only this budget.

Vicvin86
June 4th, 2011, 02:06 PM
VicVin86 Excellent updates ,... Worth keeping as desktop wallpaper ... :) Those pillars in Olympia tech park photo , is that for Station ..They look different and wide ...
Wow thanks!

There are also couple of pillars close to each other in between the wide pillars. So most probably a station will be coming up.

vinblr
June 4th, 2011, 02:07 PM
^^ @ pic poster's,

Excellent pics

Abhishek901
June 4th, 2011, 02:28 PM
Well the size of Chennai city is still 174 sq km which is much smaller than Delhi, London, Mumbai or Hyderabad. The suburbs are also located along the trunk roads and along the suburban lines. Anyways going by CMs previous terms I hardly doubt the mono rail project will proceed beyond renders.

You are talking about Municipal area. In that terms Paris is 89 sq km and Kolkata is 140 sq km. We should talk about the metropolitan area and metropolitan population. In that sense Chennai is at par with London or Paris and in future will be more populous than these. You cannot replace a monorail or increase its capacity once built.

coolmukund
June 4th, 2011, 02:45 PM
VicVin86 Excellent updates ,... Worth keeping as desktop wallpaper ... :) Those pillars in Olympia tech park photo , is that for Station ..They look different and wide ...

yes. they are for the ambal nagar (cipet) station. it is bang in front of hilton.

bharani.nitt
June 4th, 2011, 05:48 PM
Seattle, Las Vegas are much smaller than Chennai and will not grow as fast as Chennai in future as well. Chennai is not Shanghai or Seoul but that doesn't mean it will never be. Cities like London and Paris didn't wait to become rich and huge to start building their metro networks.

A large network of monorail replacing metro will limit the scope of expansion of Chennai because it is slow and has far lesser capacity than metro.

Seattle, Las Vegas are not smaller than Chennai. They are vast cities . Seattle , twice the size of Chennai and Las Vegas about the same size as Chennai !

The road situation there is very much comparable to that of Chennai .

Monorail can be a very good feeder service IMO !

wlbkng
June 4th, 2011, 05:53 PM
You are talking about Municipal area. In that terms Paris is 89 sq km and Kolkata is 140 sq km. We should talk about the metropolitan area and metropolitan population. In that sense Chennai is at par with London or Paris and in future will be more populous than these. You cannot replace a monorail or increase its capacity once built.

Am not wasting my time in this particular discussion. Whatever we say, nothing is gonna happen and Monorail will be implemented as current CM has decided.

Just a small clarification..
Kolkata municipal corporation area: 184 sq.km(not 140)
Paris : 105 sq.km(not 89)

Abhishek901
June 4th, 2011, 05:59 PM
Seattle, Las Vegas are not smaller than Chennai. They are vast cities . Seattle , twice the size of Chennai and Las Vegas about the same size as Chennai !

The road situation there is very much comparable to that of Chennai .

Monorail can be a very good feeder service IMO !

Dude just check their areas compared to their population. Their population is much lower than Chennai's metropolitan population and their population density is even lower than Chennai. Metro is unviable for such cities.

Am not wasting my time in this particular discussion. Just a small clarification..
Kolkata municipal corporation area: 184 sq.km(not 140)
Paris : 105 sq.km(not 89)

^^ What difference does that make? What I am saying is that a lot of population in Chennai lives outside the municipal limits and that's what one needs to consider.

Vicvin86
June 4th, 2011, 06:39 PM
^^ What difference does that make? What I am saying is that a lot of population in Chennai lives outside the municipal limits and that's what one needs to consider.

Like I mentioned earlier suburban population is concentrated along the railway lines that originate from city center. 5 million live within the city limits and another 3 million in towns along the railway lines and trunk roads. The rail network also connects few towns with good population that does not even come under metropolitan region Example Arrakonam, Kanchipuram, Ponneri and Gummudipondi.

70% of those live in the suburbs have access to rail network.

Arul Murugan
June 4th, 2011, 07:04 PM
Mumbai also has 3 lines with quadruple tracks, still it is building a big metro network (146.5 km). Delhi has 6 railways lines (5 radial and 1 circular) on which EMUs operate, still Delhi is building over 400 km of metro plus over 700 km of high speed commuter rail. Hyderabad too has rail lines and MMTS still it is going for a large metro network. Same with Kolkata.



Please don't compare Mumbai and Chennai's suburban network with Delhi or Kolkatta or Hyderabad MMTS.

Mumbai and Chennai suburban railways are full fledged one. Chennai's suburban line+MRTS, capacity can be equated to Delhi's 4 metro lines.

Chennai does not have many arterial roads like Delhi where almost all the lines looks to arterial one. Now arterial roads of Chennai is covered with metro phase I. Monorail is need of an hour is light traffic areas (relative to arterial roads) and connect the MRTS, Suburban, Metro rails.

R2IChennai
June 4th, 2011, 07:35 PM
Please don't compare Mumbai and Chennai's suburban network with Delhi or Kolkatta or Hyderabad MMTS.

Mumbai and Chennai suburban railways are full fledged one. Chennai's suburban line+MRTS, capacity can be equated to Delhi's 4 metro lines.

Chennai does not have many arterial roads like Delhi where almost all the lines looks to arterial one. Now arterial roads of Chennai is covered with metro phase I. Monorail is need of an hour is light traffic areas (relative to arterial roads) and connect the MRTS, Suburban, Metro rails.

I seriously doubt if the state govt will complete the metro and give funds to the CMRL, the govnors speech it did not say 2nd phase will be stopped it clearly says metro will take longer time so mono will be added.

Fingers crossed, We need people's support to complete metro.
I am OK with not completing phase II . I am even ok if they stop the Metro at St thomas mount and not extend till Airport, we have suburban rail
from thomas mount to tirusulam. MRTS should be merged with metro as soon as possible.

R2IChennai
June 4th, 2011, 07:42 PM
Seattle, Las Vegas are not smaller than Chennai. They are vast cities . Seattle , twice the size of Chennai and Las Vegas about the same size as Chennai !

The road situation there is very much comparable to that of Chennai .

Monorail can be a very good feeder service IMO !

Seattle mono is a toy train, it is just for 3 kms, Seattle is going with Metro (called light rail goes underground, above ground and on ground) the first phase is complete for 20 miles and they are extending further
Las Vegas mono rail was built for tourism purposes and it is also very small (6 miles i think)
Osaka has the larges monorail network with 28kms.


Mono on busy Arcot road, MT Poonamalee road, Beach to Adayar, OMR, Sholinganallur -Medavakkam-Tambaram, IRR-T-Nagar-Saidapet,All over North madras, two to 4 cars depending on density can solve lot of traffic problems.

Kewl Batty
June 5th, 2011, 12:05 AM
Monorail is need of an hour is light traffic areas (relative to arterial roads) and connect the MRTS, Suburban, Metro rails.

True but not at the expense of Metro.

R2IChennai
June 5th, 2011, 12:39 AM
True but not at the expense of Metro.

should we start a facebook fan page to NOT stop MEtro
other wise we can starty buying property in Hyderabad/Blore and may be kochi.

Suncity
June 5th, 2011, 12:53 AM
Please don't compare Mumbai and Chennai's suburban network with Delhi or Kolkatta or Hyderabad MMTS.

Mumbai and Chennai suburban railways are full fledged one. Chennai's suburban line+MRTS, capacity can be equated to Delhi's 4 metro lines.




Kolkata's suburban railways system is a full fledged one too. Probably more extensive than Mumbai's in terms of geographic spread. See extended suburban map (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u284/dave302de/kolkatarailmap_samitroychoudhury.jpg). In terms of Pax carried and frequency I would guess it is behind Mumbai suburban.

R2IChennai
June 5th, 2011, 02:28 AM
Kolkata's suburban railways system is a full fledged one too. Probably more extensive than Mumbai's in terms of geographic spread. See extended suburban map (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u284/dave302de/kolkatarailmap_samitroychoudhury.jpg). In terms of Pax carried and frequency I would guess it is behind Mumbai suburban.

Thanks to British we have good suburban network In kolkatta, Mumbai and Chennai and we reviving public transportation after 50years now

Black Knight
June 5th, 2011, 05:16 AM
i was happy chennai was slowly catching up with the other cities in infra development before and now i am very sure it will not happened till the next five years or more. In this rate jaya going in her demolition mission of dmk and the projects they started chennai will always be as it is been with no changes. jaya and her comrades will be busy thinking of ideas on how to get their shares in projects they implement without getting caught and making the people fools as normal.

infraguru
June 5th, 2011, 08:20 AM
Relax ! I listened to the Guv's speech entirely !

The insurance scheme still remains , only thing the word "Kalaignar" is removed from it and Star Health will not be the party in this one. They will negotiate with other insurance providers.

Next, the housing scheme ,same thing , the word "Kalaignar" is removed and it is renamed as Tamil Nadu housing scheme or something and power will be provided through solar power instead of promised free thermal power !

1st phase of metro will be done anyway, that will not be halted. 2nd phase of metro due to start in 2014 or something will be scrapped and replaced by mono rail. Isn't it better ? Instead of waiting for phase 1 to be complete , Monorail construction can be started in parallel and both constructions can go in parallel rather than waiting for phase 1 to be complete and then start phase 2 .

Thats very true... Some thingis better than nothing I guess..

Arul Murugan
June 5th, 2011, 08:56 AM
Kolkata's suburban railways system is a full fledged one too. Probably more extensive than Mumbai's in terms of geographic spread. See extended suburban map (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u284/dave302de/kolkatarailmap_samitroychoudhury.jpg). In terms of Pax carried and frequency I would guess it is behind Mumbai suburban.

Fullfledged means, quadrapled tracks in mainlines.

Correct me if all the main lines of Howrah/Kolkatta have quadrapled lines!

khirubagaran
June 5th, 2011, 09:09 AM
The actual fight is between two parties and needless to say both the parties are ruining Tamil nadu's image and people money.

They favoring projects which are helpful to them and through which they can earn money and power.

Thoroughly Frustrated :ohno:

khirubagaran
June 5th, 2011, 09:19 AM
I stay in KK Nagar and my office is in Shollinganallur. (Assuming after completion of all the projects)

To reach metro station I need to board a bus and then I get into METRO till St.Thomas mount. Switch over to MRTS till Thriuvanmiyur and then finally get into MONO to reach office.

Four public entities will function independently and I will have to buy 4 different tickets.

My best option would be to get into a bus or preferably get a bus pass and travel any where within Chennai.

If this is the case then how can Metro or Mono break even. They will end up making loss and finally a report will quote "Metro and Mono" a complete failure in Chennai. Again collect more tax money and repay the Banks.

Atleast if all four come to consensus and issue common tickets/pass then common man will benefit out of this project.

Stupid planning and we people paying heavily throughout our lifetime.

anekho
June 5th, 2011, 10:24 AM
Metro Rail begins soil investigation


http://www.thehindu.com/multimedia/dynamic/00649/15dcpwkm_metro_GMK2_649788e.jpg


Even as the progress of the metro rail project of the elevated corridor is at an advanced stage between Koyambedu and St. Thomas Mount, the Chennai Metro Rail Limited has begun soil investigation work at various places near the Madras High Court of the Washermenpet-Chennai Airport route.

K. Rajaraman, Managing Director, CMRL, said that the first stage of soil investigation for the metro work had begun in different places near the Madras High Court for collecting soil data for construction of metro stations and underground tracks. As part of the soil investigation work bore-holing was being executed to collect soil data.

Each bore-holing needs two to three days and as a whole 30 to 45 days for getting soil data for a particular stretch, he added.

At present soil investigation work is in progress at different points on the heavily congested Esplanade Road and NSC Bose Road near the High Court of Madras. Mr. Rajaraman said: “Once the collection of soil data is over the second stage would be the shifting of underground utilities after which tender would be awarded for track and station works.”

The first phase of the project involves two corridors – from Washermenpet to Chennai Airport; and between Chennai Central Station and St. Thomas Mount railway station. The metro rail is scheduled for completion in 2015.

While the elevated corridor work was in progress in three stretches – Koyambedu to Ashok Nagar (4.5 km); Ashok Nagar to St. Thomas Mount (4.4 km); and Saidapet to Officers' Training Academy (5.2 km), underground tunnelling work was yet to start.

The construction work of metro stations on the elevated corridor in Vadapalani and Koyambedu had also begun and contracts have been awarded for construction of eight more elevated stations. A detailed project reports would be prepared for three new metro routes running a distance of 63 km.

To Thiruvanmiyur

The routes would be from Moolakadai to Thirumangalam (22 km); Moolakadai-Thiruvanmiyur (19 km); and from Luz to Iyyappanthangal (22 km).

Once completed the Metro Rail would run for a total length of 45 km on the two corridors and an estimated six lakh commuters are expected to use the train services daily.

Source (http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-features/tp-downtown/article2078006.ece)

______

Seems like there will be more phases of the metro + monorail :cheers:

Arul Murugan
June 5th, 2011, 10:46 AM
^^

Few sources say Phase II will also progress! But monorail will be given top priority over phase II.

It may be like this....

1. Monorail on top priortiy
2. Metro phase I will progress in usual speed to reach deadline
3. Metro phase II will get approval later and work will progress slowly.
4. MRTS completion.

mr_madras
June 5th, 2011, 11:12 AM
Now no need to worry about phase 2 Metro since activity will start only after completion of phase 1 by 2015. if this govt starts Mono by this year end or early next yr then we will have 45kms of METRO & 111kms of Mono by 2015. DMK can do phase 2 by 2016

Kewl Batty
June 5th, 2011, 12:52 PM
Traffic congestion continues to pose a major challenge to administration in Chennai and
other cities. The modal share of public transport in the urban transport system of Chennai is currently 27%, which should be eventually increased to 46% by 2026. Therefore, this Government will put in place an integrated multi-modal transport system in Chennai. The Metro Rail Project which is under implementation covers only 45 kilometres. Being a cost intensive project it will take considerable time for completion. Hence, this Government will implement the Mono Rail Project in Chennai to
integrate with the existing transport system. In the first phase, 111 kilometres will be covered under this project and eventually it will cover 300 kilometres in a phased manner.

This is an excerpt from Governor's speech. They didn't say anything about the (dis-) continuation of Metro. They just said its taking a lotta time as it is cost intensive, Mono will be constructed. We just have to wait and see.
IMHO, Metro should take its own pace and progress and shouldn't be interfered with!

It is clear how the media is manipulating things to make it an attractive article, just to get more readers and eventually being posted in this SSC forum. :bash: Should we call for a quality control in news articles to be posted here? :|

Arul Murugan
June 5th, 2011, 01:07 PM
^^

If they have included a single word, "" In additon" to metro, monorail also will be implemented, then this much confusion will not be there. :nuts:

If i am correct phase II loan agreement is already signed with Japan. Phase II will be delayed and not abadoned.

Kewl Batty
June 5th, 2011, 01:10 PM
^^ yes, I remember the signing of agreement for Phase II with JICA. It was way back in 2009 if am not wrong.

What about the 3000 crore extension to Thiruvottiyur?

Raji7373
June 5th, 2011, 01:16 PM
By the time Phase I - Metro is completed & Mono rail half completed (HopefullY) we will have regime change ...thata / stalin will speedup metro second phase....:lol::lol:

Metro permanent solution for our city & Mono is also a welcome move..to better infrastructure

vijayvmail
June 5th, 2011, 04:20 PM
This is an excerpt from Governor's speech. They didn't say anything about the (dis-) continuation of Metro. They just said its taking a lotta time as it is cost intensive, Mono will be constructed. We just have to wait and see.
IMHO, Metro should take its own pace and progress and shouldn't be interfered with!

It is clear how the media is manipulating things to make it an attractive article, just to get more readers and eventually being posted in this SSC forum. :bash: Should we call for a quality control in news articles to be posted here? :|

The main point is - the speech shows government dis-interest in the Metro. Plus there is the additional tag of the project being the DMK government's favoured one. So, CMRL is not going to get much support from the state government. Officially, the project will not be stopped. But there will be no help in handling land acquisition, any cooperation from other departments like the PWD etc, less co-operation from the traffic police, CMDA etc...

This is what is so frustrating.

Suncity
June 5th, 2011, 04:31 PM
Fullfledged means, quadrapled tracks in mainlines.

Correct me if all the main lines of Howrah/Kolkatta have quadrapled lines!

What is the definition of full fledged? Quadraple tracks?

Don't want to divert from discussion. Just wanted to know.

Vicvin86
June 5th, 2011, 05:50 PM
^^ Separate set of tracks for Suburban rail.

studdmanster
June 5th, 2011, 06:28 PM
No, mostly run on the same track!!

bonoslack7
June 5th, 2011, 06:41 PM
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/aiadmk-revives-chennai-monorail-project/156597-60-120.html

Reviving the Mono Rail Project (MRP) which was given up by the previous DMK regime, the AIADMK government on Friday announced that 300km in Chennai would be covered by MRP. Besides, investigations will be conducted to introduce this project in other Corporations like Coimbatore, Madurai and Trichy, to decongest the traffic. However, the Metro Rail Project which is being implemented on a fast track in Chennai, is unlikely to be stopped.
Describing the Metro Rail Project as a cost intensive project that would take considerable time for completion, Governor Surjeet Singh Barnala, in his customary address to the State Assembly, said since the Metro Rail Project would cover only 45km, the Monorail Project would be in position to integrate with the existing transport system. In the first phase, 111km will be covered under this project and eventually it would cover 300km in a phased manner.
He also said that investigations would be undertaken for introducing the Monorail System in other Corporations in the State.
Observing that traffic congestion continues to pose a major challenge to administration in Chennai and other cities, the Governor said the modal share of public transport in the urban transport system of Chennai was currently 27 per cent, which should be eventually increased to 46 per cent by 2025. “As such, the government will put in place an integrated multi-modal transport system in Chennai,” he added.
What happened so far on the Monorail and Metro Rail systems in Tamil Nadu? Talks about implementing a mass rapid transport system by rail within Chennai assumed a concrete shape during the previous AIADMK regime which, initially, opted for the Metro Rail Project. The AIADMK government had drawn up a five-year-plan for setting up a metro rail project and the estimated cost of the project was `5,086.85 crore. On a couple of occasions, the then government had urged the Centre to clear the project soon.
But, later, the AIADMK government had opted for the Monorail system stating that the Metro Rail system would not Chennai which had come under Seismic Zone III (earthquake prone). As such, security of the passengers who travel through metro rail would be in danger as the passage for the rail would be underground, the government argued. The AIADMK government opted for the Mono rail system on the basis of the recommendation by the Pallavan Transport Consultancy Services Ltd, which studied the various urban transport alternatives.
The government said Monorail’s advantages include safety, quicker project execution, low noise pollution and lower cost to consumers. Furthermore, the system could be implemented quickly, without undue traffic diversion and would involve minimal acquisition of land and little disruption to existing utilities and services. Being an elevated system, Mono Rail had lesser accident possibilities as well.
However, political parties in the State, particularly the PMK, opposed the it and the party even filed a PIL before the Madras High Court. Passing orders on the PMK’s petition, the court restrained the Tamil Nadu government from awarding the final contract or work orders for the project without prior permission. But after the DMK government assumed office in May 2006, it gave up the Monorail proposal and went back to the Metro Rail project.
The DMK government contended that the Mono Rail Project was suitable only for tourist destinations and not a for place like Chennai. Things moved faster during the past four years and the then Deputy CM MK Stalin met the officials of Japan Bank of International Cooperation (JBIC) and got financial assistance for the project on February 6, 2008. Stalin also studied the working of Tokyo Metro Rail system.

ChennaiIndian
June 5th, 2011, 07:50 PM
In all the proposals of the previous DMK Govt, Chennai Metro had only 45 km in its plan. So, Amma is not cancelling anything. She is adding Mono to it.

Indian Sun
June 5th, 2011, 08:05 PM
^^ +1. The current phase of Metro will be done by 2015. By 2016, DMK, In all likelihood, will be back. TNLA and Metro Phase II onwards will be revived. So it's not an issue.

bonoslack7
June 5th, 2011, 09:06 PM
The issue is that if the jayalolita starts building a monorail in the place of phase 2 metro routes, its going to be a totaaal waste of funds. And dmk can do nothing about it in their next term.

satishanu
June 6th, 2011, 12:33 AM
Metro work going on full swing in Koyembedu-Vadapalani-Ashok nagar stretch.

Also saw work going in full swing near to Airport on Saturday 1.30 am on my way to airport.

http://i.imgur.com/Un22v.jpg

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http://i.imgur.com/sGdPR.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/YHj8t.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/9Hy6u.jpg

Most of above pics are taken from Ashok nagar - Vadapalani - Arumbakkam stretch

krishnaswamy
June 6th, 2011, 12:40 AM
thanks for the pictures sathish...
is there a new mall "ten Square mall" coming up near Cement road?

World8115
June 6th, 2011, 06:29 AM
Nice pics :cheers:

SSCaddict
June 6th, 2011, 08:21 AM
nice pics! good progress! :cheers:

khirubagaran
June 6th, 2011, 10:39 AM
The issue is that if jayalolita starts building a monorail in the place of phase 2 metro routes, its going to be a totaaal waste of funds. And dmk can do nothing about it in their next term.

When the new government can mention the exact distance of 111km and 300km, I am sure there will be lot of redundacies. Your worst fear will definetely come true becasue of ego clashes. I believe the ground would have been done long ago to swap Metro with Mono.

Mono will operate from all the places where Metro(Phase 2 and 3) was suppose to operate.

My next concern is that will the goverment intergrate all 4 rail systems (Sub-Urban, MRTS, Metro & Mono). Only if all 4 operate as single system, public will be benefited.

Experts please correct me if I am wrong.

dineshderick
June 6th, 2011, 12:42 PM
:)^^

Few sources say Phase II will also progress! But monorail will be given top priority over phase II.

It may be like this....

1. Monorail on top priortiy
2. Metro phase I will progress in usual speed to reach deadline
3. Metro phase II will get approval later and work will progress slowly.
4. MRTS completion.

Yes ur Right nobody can stop phase 2
Because already tender for few works of phase 2 has been allocated.

As Arul said it will progress very slowly:bash:

Arul Murugan
June 6th, 2011, 06:06 PM
superb updates vicvin and satish.

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Metro works in full swing at CMBT

http://tm.dinakaran.com/pdf/2011/06/06/20110606a_001101004.jpg

krishnaswamy
June 6th, 2011, 06:09 PM
More over by the time they start monorail it would be end of 2014 or 2015.:bash:
if you take the metro phase II stretch, some of them are through densely populated area. so for those area, mono rail can be good option.
by 2016, ,metro phase II can be extended towards ECR and towards chengalpet
Within Current Chennai city limits, mono rail can be the good option, which will take lot of 2 wheelers, buses off from the road

vijayvmail
June 6th, 2011, 06:16 PM
More over by the time they start monorail it would be end of 2014 or 2015.:bash:

If captain comes, then as I said before, he will declare Chennai to be the Venice of Asia and build a network of canals. Canals will be connected between cooum, adayar, palar and the backwaters like Muttukadu. Additional pipes from other lakes in the state and some water from the ocean will be diverted into the canals and we will all have a SRTS (Ship Rapid Transit system).

And we will start another thread for SRTS and keep fighting as to whether Amma, thatha or Captain is the greatest / worst :nuts::nuts:

natarajan1986
June 6th, 2011, 07:34 PM
What is the status about phase -I as they didt mention about it nor they said anything about allocation of funds from state,will 45 km stretch can be completed without hindrance? i wonder why no one raised this question either to government and also ssc members have just assumed phase -I has no problem

satishanu
June 6th, 2011, 11:36 PM
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PremChn
June 7th, 2011, 01:53 AM
Not related to Chennai Metro...Bangalore TBM Installation.

Seems to be a huge task to install the machine itself. With less or no support from SG it will be a tough task for CMRL to achieve targets.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgv7C5rFnkY

Arul Murugan
June 8th, 2011, 04:39 AM
Monorail or Metro Rail: the pros and cons

Ajai Sreevatsan

There are 20 monorail systems in Asia; Metro networks are in operation in 178 cities around the world

http://www.hindu.com/2011/06/08/images/2011060863850301.jpg
NEW FACILITY COMING: Work on the Metro Rail in progress on Jawaharlal Nehru Road on Tuesday. The proposed monorail is expected to supplement this service.


Hindu

arun82
June 8th, 2011, 08:17 AM
Update

Work in the Adyar river in Saidapet in progress. 3 pillar foundation has been completed.

Work in the Adyar river in Ekkathuthangal in progress. Piling work in progress

CCCL has commenced station work in asarkana.


Where will the station come up in CMBT . There is work in progress behind Lanson Toyota in Maduravoyal pillars are being erected . Where is the metro going underground in koyembedu

zenith_suv
June 8th, 2011, 10:21 AM
Metro should be taken wherever possible, only when it become inadvisable to build a metro in a certain area should monorail be considered.

madrasi7777
June 8th, 2011, 01:17 PM
The crane on the 100 feet road towards the CMBT is progressing well. I think they have topped up nearly 1 KM with the via ducts and will surely complete this land mark in a few weeks time. When the crane tops up pillar 107 1 km will be completed.

Monorail or Metro Rail: the pros and cons

Ajai Sreevatsan

There are 20 monorail systems in Asia; Metro networks are in operation in 178 cities around the world

http://www.hindu.com/2011/06/08/images/2011060863850301.jpg
NEW FACILITY COMING: Work on the Metro Rail in progress on Jawaharlal Nehru Road on Tuesday. The proposed monorail is expected to supplement this service.


Hindu

singaporeIndian
June 8th, 2011, 06:11 PM
Update

Work in the Adyar river in Saidapet in progress. 3 pillar foundation has been completed.

Work in the Adyar river in Ekkathuthangal in progress. Piling work in progress

CCCL has commenced station work in asarkana.


Where will the station come up in CMBT . There is work in progress behind Lanson Toyota in Maduravoyal pillars are being erected . Where is the metro going underground in koyembedu

Metro goes underground at Thirumangalam near Metro Zone/ Kendriya Vidyalaya School.

proprashanth
June 8th, 2011, 11:07 PM
Can anyone tell me whether it's possible to convert monorail bridge into metro rail one in future? Please forgive my ignorance if i had asked anything silly :P
Monorail just seems to be a joke for at a 300 km stretch.

lexraja
June 8th, 2011, 11:08 PM
Monorail or Metro Rail: the pros and cons

Ajai Sreevatsan

There are 20 monorail systems in Asia; Metro networks are in operation in 178 cities around the world

http://www.hindu.com/2011/06/08/images/2011060863850301.jpg
NEW FACILITY COMING: Work on the Metro Rail in progress on Jawaharlal Nehru Road on Tuesday. The proposed monorail is expected to supplement this service.


Hindu



Arul,

Is there a Hindu link to the above post ?


Thanks,


:)

ChennaiLeader
June 9th, 2011, 01:51 AM
^^^^
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Chennai/article2085596.ece

lexraja
June 9th, 2011, 07:14 AM
^^^^
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Chennai/article2085596.ece


Good read .


Thanks for the link,

:)

dineshderick
June 9th, 2011, 07:35 AM
Can anyone tell me whether it's possible to convert monorail bridge into metro rail one in future? Please forgive my ignorance if i had asked anything silly :P
Monorail just seems to be a joke for at a 300 km stretch.

Mono Rail bridge cannot be converted to Metro Rail.

proprashanth
June 9th, 2011, 05:53 PM
Mono Rail bridge cannot be converted to Metro Rail.

oh no :(

metrofreak
June 9th, 2011, 06:05 PM
The crane on the 100 feet road towards the CMBT is progressing well. I think they have topped up nearly 1 KM with the via ducts and will surely complete this land mark in a few weeks time. When the crane tops up pillar 107 1 km will be completed.

wow! such a faadu pic :D:banana:

arun82
June 10th, 2011, 07:53 AM
The third Gantry crane near OTA has lifted the first piece of the five pieces for the segment casting . Action starts in Saidapet -Airport line.

rsrikanth05
June 10th, 2011, 08:09 PM
Has the metro UG section contract been awarded yet ?
And is the metro crossing Poonamallee high road zoh or UG?
Map shows OH.
oh no :(
Cross posting from Mumbai Monorail. This is what a Monorail track lookslike. The pic should explain why one can't be converted to the other.
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/2947/20110529122427.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/685/20110529122427.jpg/)

bharani.nitt
June 11th, 2011, 12:25 AM
Has the metro UG section contract been awarded yet ?
And is the metro crossing Poonamallee high road zoh or UG?
Map shows OH.

Cross posting from Mumbai Monorail. This is what a Monorail track lookslike. The pic should explain why one can't be converted to the other.
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/2947/20110529122427.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/685/20110529122427.jpg/)

Does the pic have a single track or 2 tracks for movement of the coach on either sides on each track ?

The advantage I can see and guess from the pic is it doesn't consume much space and it can be build as medians on thoroughfares !

The disadvantage is the coach can't carry much capacity and this kind of network is ideal for tier 2 cities like Coimbatore, Trichy, Madurai where there isnt much population !

shanware
June 11th, 2011, 12:58 AM
Does the pic have a single track or 2 tracks for movement of the coach on either sides on each track ?

The advantage I can see and guess from the pic is it doesn't consume much space and it can be build as medians on thoroughfares !

The disadvantage is the coach can't carry much capacity and this kind of network is ideal for tier 2 cities like Coimbatore, Trichy, Madurai where there isnt much population !

The pic above contains tracks for both directions. You are right about the principal advantages and disadvantages.

rsrikanth05
June 11th, 2011, 08:00 AM
Does the pic have a single track or 2 tracks for movement of the coach on either sides on each track ?

The advantage I can see and guess from the pic is it doesn't consume much space and it can be build as medians on thoroughfares !

The disadvantage is the coach can't carry much capacity and this kind of network is ideal for tier 2 cities like Coimbatore, Trichy, Madurai where there isnt much population !
The pic above contains tracks for both directions. You are right about the principal advantages and disadvantages.

That is the core difference between the two.
Monorail is suited for places with narrow road, and as a feeder network for the metro.

Vicvin86
June 11th, 2011, 08:01 AM
Has the metro UG section contract been awarded yet ?



From CMRL site

http://www.chennaimetrorail.gov.in/tenderaward.php

Air-conditioning on UG stations awarded to Voltas.

Design and construction of Underground Stations at Gemini, Teynampet, Chamiers Road , Saidapet, Government Estate, LIC Building, Thousand Lights and Associated Tunnels awarded to Gammon.

Design and construction of underground stations at Shenoy Nagar, Anna Nagar East, Anna Nagar Tower, Thirumangalam, Washermanpet, Mannadi, High Court, Chennai Central, Egmore and Associated Tunnels awarded to Transtonnelstroy-Afcons JV.

Design and construction of underground stations at Nehru Park, Kilpauk Medical College and Pachaiappa's College and Associated Tunnels awarded to Metro Tunnelling Chennai L&T-SUCG JV.

The link has tender awarded till March 2011.

Vicvin86
June 11th, 2011, 08:02 AM
That is the core difference between the two.
Monorail is suited for places with narrow road, and as a feeder network for the metro.

And when the opposition party prefers metro...

arun82
June 11th, 2011, 10:15 AM
Gammon India has commenced soil testing in LIC opp Highinbothams.

Where will be the TBM's deployed for Saidapet-Central section

rsrikanth05
June 11th, 2011, 10:18 AM
Gammon India has commenced soil testing in LIC opp Highinbothams.

Where will be the TBM's deployed for Saidapet-Central section
From CMRL site

http://www.chennaimetrorail.gov.in/tenderaward.php

Air-conditioning on UG stations awarded to Voltas.

Design and construction of Underground Stations at Gemini, Teynampet, Chamiers Road , Saidapet, Government Estate, LIC Building, Thousand Lights and Associated Tunnels awarded to Gammon.

Design and construction of underground stations at Shenoy Nagar, Anna Nagar East, Anna Nagar Tower, Thirumangalam, Washermanpet, Mannadi, High Court, Chennai Central, Egmore and Associated Tunnels awarded to Transtonnelstroy-Afcons JV.

Design and construction of underground stations at Nehru Park, Kilpauk Medical College and Pachaiappa's College and Associated Tunnels awarded to Metro Tunnelling Chennai L&T-SUCG JV.

The link has tender awarded till March 2011.

Thats good news.

Is Soma involved with the UG? No right?

Vicvin86, agreed.

World8115
June 11th, 2011, 11:41 AM
Its great that Chennai will start u/g const. soon as it takes more time :cheers:

rsrikanth05
June 11th, 2011, 02:17 PM
Its great that Chennai will start u/g const. soon as it takes more time :cheers:

+1 :banana:
Awesome route.

dr_thapalathy
June 11th, 2011, 03:07 PM
Good news.. Progress is very fast for CMRL..

singaporeIndian
June 11th, 2011, 06:25 PM
Gammon India has commenced soil testing in LIC opp Highinbothams.

Where will be the TBM's deployed for Saidapet-Central section

The TBMs will be deployed at May Day Park near Chintadiripet railway station.

singaporeIndian
June 11th, 2011, 06:26 PM
Thats good news.

Is Soma involved with the UG? No right?

Vicvin86, agreed.

No, Soma is not involved in UG. Its only Afcons-Transtonnelstroy JV, L&T-SUCG JV & Gammon-Mosmetrostroy JV are involved in UG works.

rsrikanth05
June 11th, 2011, 07:42 PM
No, Soma is not involved in UG. Its only Afcons-Transtonnelstroy JV, L&T-SUCG JV & Gammon-Mosmetrostroy JV are involved in UG works.
Let's see.
Soma is doing great in the OH sections on 100ft road.

ferrari_fan
June 12th, 2011, 07:29 AM
Russian companies seem to be good at tunnelling? Lots of "-stroys" around..

skdubai
June 12th, 2011, 09:13 AM
Well Russia does have one of the oldest underground metro systems around.. so I guess they probably are...

arun82
June 12th, 2011, 11:31 AM
Gammon-Mosmetrostroy JV has began soil testing in many places. In saidapet The slum behind the bus stand has been partially cleared and barricaded. A old hospital building, part of corporation office and partial land in the school behind saidapet busstand, Part of land inside teacher's colony has been barricaded for metro. A huge crane is assembled in the school ground. I think they will launch a TBM from saidapet. Gammon has erected in the left side lane in Nandanam for soil testing. Hope they will begin the construction soon. Anna salai is going to be a big traffic nightmare once the station work commences as they have said one side of the road will be blocked. One lane traffic will block the traffic for miles.

arun82
June 12th, 2011, 11:35 AM
Both the lines meet at Alandur. The Koyembedu line will come from the west and Saidapet libe will come from East. After Alandur they will have to interchange. Koyembedu line has to move to the east to reach St thomas mount. Saidapet -Airport line has to move to West to reach Airport. How will they interchange will there be a railway like signalling . With a metro train arriving at 3 min interval will it be possible to keep changing the track at Alandur junction

arun82
June 12th, 2011, 11:46 AM
Update,

L&T has 3 pillars to be completed in OTA, one station pillar pending. Work in progress even today.

3 pieces of the first segment are in place 2 pieces pending to be lifted.

Work on Both lines happening in Alandur Junction. Noticed some extra iron rods away from the Pillars Hope it is for the station.

Piling between Ashok Leyland head office and Little mount Signal in progress.

The second gantry crane of L&T has completed the first segment and has moved to the next pillar.

The third gantry crane has crossed the Ambal bus stop and is taking a turn . Two pillars are pending south of the Adyar bridge

Piling in the Adyar river in progress.

Pillar erection has been completed from Kasi Theatre to KK Nagar BSNL.

Pillars in Various stages between KK nagar and Ashok Nagar Hot chips.

The gantry crane of Soma has completed all the segments till Ashok Nagar signal. Hope they will move this crane inside CMBT bus stand.

CCCL is still piling and in some pits the concrete has been filled between Vadapalani and SRM.

2nd Gantry crane of Soma is near MMDA Signal. All pillars till the CMBT has been completed

There are pillars in the median and in GST where the Metro takes a Turn to the east to enter CMBT . Dont know Why.

Piling completed and pillar erection inside CMBT in progress.

Most of the pillars along the CMBT bus exit route has been completed.

There is Huge piling machine about some 75 feet tall is piling in the Metro land adjacent to CMBT MTC bus stand Dont know why

arun82
June 12th, 2011, 11:52 AM
All pillars till South of Koyembedu - Mayuravoyal road opp Rohini theatre has been completed.

Soil test in PH road has been copmpleted.

L&T has blocked the right lane opp Sangam cinema in the Central- Koyambedu side for soil testing.

All cranes and materials ready in the park in PH road.

They have barricaded huge area inside the Kilpauk hospital. Excavatours has been moved in. Soon they will commence digging for the Tunnel or station.

Soil testing in Central, Mannady, High court junction in progress

coolmukund
June 12th, 2011, 03:11 PM
Both the lines meet at Alandur. The Koyembedu line will come from the west and Saidapet libe will come from East. After Alandur they will have to interchange. Koyembedu line has to move to the east to reach St thomas mount. Saidapet -Airport line has to move to West to reach Airport. How will they interchange will there be a railway like signalling . With a metro train arriving at 3 min interval will it be possible to keep changing the track at Alandur junction

both these corridors will converge at alandur at different levels. washermanpet-airport corridor will be at level 1 and central - stm corridor will at level 2.

rsrikanth05
June 12th, 2011, 05:05 PM
Why will Underground work cause traffic to be blocked?
They're tunneling, not doing Cut and Cover.
Only at places where TBMs are lowered will it be blocked.

arshyam
June 12th, 2011, 05:46 PM
Also, stations - they will cut and cover at stations in order to build the platforms and support structures. There will be some congestion around the station areas.

rsrikanth05
June 12th, 2011, 07:11 PM
Also, stations - they will cut and cover at stations in order to build the platforms and support structures. There will be some congestion around the station areas.
Only stations na? Not the tracks.

Kewl Batty
June 12th, 2011, 07:46 PM
^^ Thats the catch. Stations are at prime dense traffic areas! :D

rsrikanth05
June 12th, 2011, 07:58 PM
^^ Thats the catch. Stations are at prime dense traffic areas! :D
So long as they're atleast 50~75m away from the junction, it's fine.

vijayvmail
June 13th, 2011, 04:36 AM
So long as they're atleast 50~75m away from the junction, it's fine.

there is a tendency for traffic to pile up. One lane of road blocked at a particular place will cause a terrible bottle neck and cause a huge jam especially during peak hours. Hope the work does not get delayed.

ChennaiLeader
June 13th, 2011, 05:12 AM
Just happened to see the May newsletter in CMRL website....don't know if it was already posted here...anyway it does have a lot of information and nice pictures of metro work in progress:banana:
http://chennaimetrorail.gov.in/newsletter/may.pdf

rsrikanth05
June 13th, 2011, 08:00 AM
there is a tendency for traffic to pile up. One lane of road blocked at a particular place will cause a terrible bottle neck and cause a huge jam especially during peak hours. Hope the work does not get delayed.
People need to learn to drive in lanes and let others pass.

arun82
June 13th, 2011, 01:50 PM
People need to learn to drive in lanes and let others pass.

It is next to impossible in Chennai. Traffic police has to plan the traffic in such a way traffic pile up is avoided. For eg
If they are going to dig the nandanam station then the traffic towards Venkatnarayana road and Left turn should be blocked in Nandanam signal. This will ensure vehicles reaching T nagar from SIET and centoph road can be diverted thru Teynampet signal.

rsrikanth05
June 13th, 2011, 01:52 PM
It is next to impossible in Chennai. Traffic police has to plan the traffic in such a way traffic pile up is avoided. For eg
If they are going to dig the nandanam station then the traffic towards Venkatnarayana road and Left turn should be blocked in Nandanam signal. This will ensure vehicles reaching T nagar from SIET and centoph road can be diverted thru Teynampet signal.
My opinion: Till completion of Metro, roads n an around the main corridor should be made one way for smooth flow of traffic.

vijayvmail
June 13th, 2011, 03:28 PM
People need to learn to drive in lanes and let others pass.

The problem is that lanes are more suitable for uniform 4 laned traffic. But our roads have a wide mix of vehicles - from bullock carts, fish carts etc to Buses and trucks.

Each one travels in its own speed. A two wheeler cannot be expected to stick to a lane behind an auto when the next lane is totally empty. when vehicles start zig zagging into all available spaces, then the lane concept is lost.

rsrikanth05
June 13th, 2011, 06:06 PM
The problem is that lanes are more suitable for uniform 4 laned traffic. But our roads have a wide mix of vehicles - from bullock carts, fish carts etc to Buses and trucks.

Each one travels in its own speed. A two wheeler cannot be expected to stick to a lane behind an auto when the next lane is totally empty. when vehicles start zig zagging into all available spaces, then the lane concept is lost.
CMRL should think about this.

kannan infratech
June 14th, 2011, 09:59 AM
Where ever there is UG tunneling (esp Anna Salai), there will be vents at the ground level and probably the median area (1 lane width minimum) will be used for this.

For barricades & services, they may take another lane width.

That leaves only 2 lane widths for commutation (one lane on each direction).

Can Chennai traffic manage with this? for how long?

Anybody has to cross Anna Salai stretch somewhere, as it runs from Central to Kathipara like a spine.

Proper Traffic Study & planning before starting the tunneling work is MUST.

rsrikanth05
June 14th, 2011, 10:54 AM
^^ You referring to U/C or post completion?

ferrari_fan
June 14th, 2011, 11:33 AM
^^ Pretty sure he's referring to u/c - post completion the road will not remain 2 lanes - it will go back to being 6 lanes..

rsrikanth05
June 14th, 2011, 02:08 PM
^^ Pretty sure he's referring to u/c - post completion the road will not remain 2 lanes - it will go back to being 6 lanes..
Ventilation?
I mean, there'll be ducts like this right? Atleast along the median?
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/4163/orr07.jpg

ceeznic pirate
June 14th, 2011, 03:29 PM
Just happened to see the May newsletter in CMRL website....don't know if it was already posted here...anyway it does have a lot of information and nice pictures of metro work in progress:banana:
http://chennaimetrorail.gov.in/newsletter/may.pdf

Thanks. Station works seem to be accelerating at full throttle :)

rsrikanth05
June 14th, 2011, 03:38 PM
^^ Soma was amazingly good with the Viaduct work on 100ft road. Fastest I've eve seen.

mugunthsboa
June 14th, 2011, 10:11 PM
The problem is that lanes are more suitable for uniform 4 laned traffic. But our roads have a wide mix of vehicles - from bullock carts, fish carts etc to Buses and trucks.

Each one travels in its own speed. A two wheeler cannot be expected to stick to a lane behind an auto when the next lane is totally empty. when vehicles start zig zagging into all available spaces, then the lane concept is lost.

On roads having more than 3 Lanes we see the signboards saying which lane to be taken for which type of vehicle...i have seen them to put autos and cars in a lane while two wheelers and cycles in the last lane...why dont we the people commuting on these roads just follow this? Its basically indiscipline that we were all born with...:nuts:

vijayvmail
June 15th, 2011, 04:38 AM
On roads having more than 3 Lanes we see the signboards saying which lane to be taken for which type of vehicle...i have seen them to put autos and cars in a lane while two wheelers and cycles in the last lane...why dont we the people commuting on these roads just follow this? Its basically indiscipline that we were all born with...:nuts:


We have a lane system in Mount Road. Here, the two wheelers and autos are near the median, cars in the center lane and the buses in the final bay. But compared to the speed of today's bikes, the autos are so slow. Bikers stray into other lanes to over take the autos.

Bus stops and road junctions are places where autos look out for new passengers. So, they constantly move from the median to the ends looking for passengers.

Small things like these causes disruptions. And this is the case with a broad road like Mount road. Now consider the same scenario in Usman Road. One slow moving vehicle blocks almost the entire road. People try to get past by moving to the opposite lane. With the number of vehicles, such transgressions snowball into chaos.

Public completely lacks road sense. I agree. But the structure of roads should also be move helpful. Without that, we cant just blame the public.

Imagine a multi-storey car park in the T.Nagar junction with the bus terminus at the ground level. So many cars, so many buses, two wheelers, autos, share autos, fish carts, cycles, briyani shops, pedestrians ... - all converging into that small junction. Can we truly expect lane discipline there?

rsrikanth05
June 15th, 2011, 08:06 AM
On roads having more than 3 Lanes we see the signboards saying which lane to be taken for which type of vehicle...i have seen them to put autos and cars in a lane while two wheelers and cycles in the last lane...why dont we the people commuting on these roads just follow this? Its basically indiscipline that we were all born with...:nuts:
Not born with.
It's the indiscipline we get from TV ads.

ferrari_fan
June 15th, 2011, 09:07 AM
Huh? TV ads?

rsrikanth05
June 15th, 2011, 09:31 AM
Huh? TV ads?
SRK and his Santro ad or the bike ads showing cutting on roads.

dineshderick
June 15th, 2011, 11:14 AM
Tamil Nadu Chief Minister J Jayalalithaa today urged the Centre to extend financial assistance for implementing the Mono Rail Project to improve the overall transportation system in Chennai city.

In a memorandum to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh in New Delhi, copies of which were released to the media here, she sought the assistance under the National Urban Transport Policy which seeks to provide an efficient, affordable and sustainable transportation system to Urban India.

''In the first phase, 111 Kms will be covered. Overall 300 kms will be covered under Mono Rail in a phased manner'', she added. Observing Mono Rail was capital intensive but environment-friendly project of the State Government, she said the first phase of 111 Kms would be completed in the next two years at a rough cost of Rs 16,650 crore (at the rate of Rs 150 crore per Km).

She said increasing urban population coupled with economic activities and increased city size have led to a rapid growth in urban travel demand in Chennai. ''The Chennai Metropolitan Area (CMA) is expected to grow into a mega city with a population of more than 10 million people in the next 10 years'', she pointed out.

She said to improve the overall Urban Transportation System in Chennai, the modal share of public transport has to be increased from the present level of 27 per cent. ''The government has accordingly declared its intention to increase the share of public transportation to 46 per cent by 2026. "To achieve this, the State Government has decided to implement the Mono Rail Project in Chennai to integrate with the existing transportation system," she said.

satchitananda
June 15th, 2011, 01:57 PM
SOURCE: (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Sreedharans-thumbs-up-to-blacklisted-firms-overruled/articleshow/8857640.cms)

One is an administrator widely reputed for his integrity, while the other is a Constitution office holder whose legal opinion is regarded as binding on all executive departments. Yet, Delhi Metro chief E Sreedharan and attorney general Goolam E Vahanvati have both suffered the mortification of being overruled by the government. This is thanks to the unwarranted manner in which they have been found to have interpreted words to shield companies responsible for two major construction disasters in Delhi.

The subject of interpretation was whether the construction majors, Gammon India and Afcons Infrastructure, could be engaged in any of the other seven metro projects across the country despite being "debarred" from entering into contracts with Delhi Metro for varying periods on account of their culpability for the 2009 Zamrudpur accident and 2008 Lakshmi Nagar accident, respectively. The issue arose because of a common stipulation that a firm blacklisted in the last five or ten years by any metro rail corporation would be disqualified from bidding for tenders floated by its counterparts elsewhere.

On a query from Chennai Metro about Gammon's eligibility, Sreedharan said in November 2010 that the restriction imposed on that company a month earlier by Delhi Metro did not, however, debar it from participating in tenders with other metro rail corporations. His decision not to entrust Gammon with any new contract for two years, he stressed, "binds only Delhi Metro and no other organization". His reasoning was that his action "does not tantamount to either blacklisting or deregistration as per the terms of Chennai Metro's bid documents".

There was no explanation from Sreedharan on why the accident for which Delhi Metro had penalized Gammon should be of no concern to Chennai Metro while considering its bid. Yet, his narrow interpretation of his action against Gammon was upheld by Vahanvati in his legal opinion to Chennai metro in January. Besides reiterating that Delhi Metro's action did not amount to blacklisting or deregistration, Vahanvati said, "In any case, Delhi Metro's clarification puts the matter beyond doubt."

Despite such a categorical assertion from the highest law officer, the Ministry of Urban Development took just the opposite stand in a letter written to all the eight metro rail corporations on June 7. Addressing the lack of clarity in the interpretation of the words involved, the government said that "debarring and banning are synonymous terminology" and that "blacklisting as understood in common parlance is a list prepared by department/organization for its own use" of all such firms which were under suspension or ban or had been deregistered by any organization.

As a corollary, the government concluded that "the action of debarment would tantamount to blacklisting". It also called for greater transparency as any such action taken by any one organization, "even if done for that particular organization, would have an impact on the credentials of the firm for consideration in other organizations".

This is tacitly contrary to Sreedharan's position, endorsed by Vahanvati, that Delhi Metro was not required to inform Chennai Metro about the action taken against Gammon. "Since the restrictions imposed on Gammon India are only for the works in Delhi metro, we did not consider it necessary to circulate our letter to any other organization or government department," Sreedharan had written in November 2010.

In its letter last week, the government directed all the metro rail corporations to share all such information with each other, that too immediately. For good measure, it added that all information on punitive actions against contractors should be published by those corporations on their websites.

rsrikanth05
June 15th, 2011, 04:40 PM
^^ I think a national blacklist would help in the matter.

ging11
June 16th, 2011, 05:08 AM
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Chennai/article2107636.ece

With Chennai Metro Rail Limited beginning to acquire the small portions of private land required for the project, roadblocks seem to be emerging due to disputes over the compensation package.

Members of the Alandur Railway Station Road Residents' Welfare Association on Wednesday threatened to launch a protest, accusing the CMRL of going back on its promise to give a satisfactory compensation package.

Among the first batch of property owners to get eviction notices, they allege that though a mutually favourable rate was reached through private negotiations, the CMRL has suddenly decided to invoke the Land Acquisition Act to acquire their properties at a rate that is just 10 per cent of the market value.

Producing the letter that owners of 29 buildings on Railway Station Road signed and submitted to the CMRL following a meeting on January 27 this year, Bharathi Kumar, president of the association, said, “the CMRL offered a rate of Rs.3,745 per sq. feet. We initially asked for more, but settled for the amount and conveyed our approval in writing. There was no communication for a few months and we suddenly receive notices stating that we will have to vacate the property within 15 days and settle for a compensation of Rs.900 per sq. feet.”

Terming CMRL's decision to invoke the Land Acquisition Act as unjust, Ms. Bharathi Kumar said, “We are not against the metro rail project. We are willing to give our land, but the compensation amount is unbelievably low. We are being cheated.”

Residents also produced documents showing that a property was registered on the same road at Rs.3,200 per sq. feet in 2008, much before the metro rail alignment was even announced, which would have driven up land prices further.

In order to avoid such disputes, CMRL had appointed a consultant during the initial stages of the project to arrive at a fair settlement for acquiring land. Sources in CMRL say that the offer of Rs.3,745 is based on the “advised price.”

However, now that the Land Acquisition Act has been invoked, CMRL Managing Director K.Rajaraman said that it was up to the State government to fix the compensation amount. “Alandur comes under the Kancheepuram Collector and he is the competent authority. CMRL has no power whatsoever to decide the price. Besides, residents can also approach the court under Section 18 of the Act if they are unhappy with the compensation.”

On why the Land Acquisition Act was invoked after the negotiations, he said that there was ambiguity on who actually had the title to the land in many places in Chennai. “After compensation is paid, another person could surface claiming to be the owner. On the contrary, when the government acquires the land, it comes into its absolute possession.”

Documents in possession of The Hindu show that a majority of the 29 properties have single owners and there are no disputes over the title.

The Metro Rail Corridor-II (Chennai Central – St.Thomas Mount) crosses the Kathipara junction on GST Road and on its fag end the corridor runs along the Railway Station Road till the St.Thomas Mount station. The site would eventually serve as an inter-modal hub where the suburban EMU network integrates with the MRTS and the metro rail.

vijayvmail
June 16th, 2011, 05:41 AM
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Chennai/article2107636.ece



:bash: What is happening now?

I think we have all praised the progressed too much that things are going back to "normal".

Home owners have right to a fair compensation. At places like Alandur, even the initially agreed amount is less. Now Rs. 900 / sq Ft ??? U wont get places at that cost even near Chengalpattu. And what is this about vacating in just 15 days? Shouldn't any notice give sufficient time to find a new place and move.

Something happening in the background. Too bad. :bash:

Arul Murugan
June 16th, 2011, 07:13 AM
works in full swing at Saidai

http://epaper.dinakaran.com/pdf/2011/06/16/20110616c_015101006.jpg

DKN

rsrikanth05
June 16th, 2011, 08:39 AM
:bash: What is happening now?

I think we have all praised the progressed too much that things are going back to "normal".

Home owners have right to a fair compensation. At places like Alandur, even the initially agreed amount is less. Now Rs. 900 / sq Ft ??? U wont get places at that cost even near Chengalpattu. And what is this about vacating in just 15 days? Shouldn't any notice give sufficient time to find a new place and move.

Something happening in the background. Too bad. :bash:
Most of the time in such projects, it's the people who are given proper compensation who make a fuss.

works in full swing at Saidai

http://epaper.dinakaran.com/pdf/2011/06/16/20110616c_015101006.jpg

DKN

Isn't it a bit slow for Larsen and Toubro ?

ging11
June 16th, 2011, 12:37 PM
Most of the time in such projects, it's the people who are given proper compensation who make a fuss.


If one reads the article bit carefully, it will be apparent that CMRL MD has not denied any of the claims of the residents.

CMRL has also acknowledged that they are invoking LA Act though they had publicly given a commitment that they will not invoke LA Act unless all other alternatives fail.
http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/Layout/Includes/TOINEW/ArtWin.asp?From=Archive&Source=Page&Skin=TOINEW&BaseHref=TOICH%2F2009%2F12%2F28&ViewMode=HTML&GZ=T&PageLabel=1&EntityId=Ar00102&AppName=1

Now, the excuse that has come up is "land title disputes", which looks absurd. If that was really the case, why couldnt private negotiations be done for non-dispute lands? Note, TDR is not even given as an option here.

Hindu Published market value for land in Alandur & surroundings is upwards of 6000 Rs. Where is 6000 & where is 900?

Now CMRL MD is washing his hands off asking the residents to go to Court - does he even know how long it takes to get a fair value from Court Proceedings?

CMRL -->> What happened to all that glam & nice people friendly policies and shiny compensation brochures? All sham??

rsrikanth05
June 16th, 2011, 03:25 PM
If one reads the article bit carefully, it will be apparent that CMRL MD has not denied any of the claims of the residents.

CMRL has also acknowledged that they are invoking LA Act though they had publicly given a commitment that they will not invoke LA Act unless all other alternatives fail.
http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/Layout/Includes/TOINEW/ArtWin.asp?From=Archive&Source=Page&Skin=TOINEW&BaseHref=TOICH%2F2009%2F12%2F28&ViewMode=HTML&GZ=T&PageLabel=1&EntityId=Ar00102&AppName=1

Now, the excuse that has come up is "land title disputes", which looks absurd. If that was really the case, why couldnt private negotiations be done for non-dispute lands? Note, TDR is not even given as an option here.

Hindu Published market value for land in Alandur & surroundings is upwards of 6000 Rs. Where is 6000 & where is 900?

Now CMRL MD is washing his hands off asking the residents to go to Court - does he even know how long it takes to get a fair value from Court Proceedings?

CMRL -->> What happened to all that glam & nice people friendly policies and shiny compensation brochures? All sham??
I agree, TDR is definitely NOT an option here. You can't have a lopsided pin tower next to a track.

When was the rate fixed?
Land rates around Alandur have gone up in recent times after MRTS extension work began and after Metro work was announced.

bonoslack7
June 16th, 2011, 06:21 PM
http://in.news.yahoo.com/japan-hopes-tamil-nadu-ahead-metro-rail-project-121725377.html

With Tamil Nadu's AIADMK government pitching for mono-rail, Japan, a major lender for the Chennai metro rail project, hopes that the new state government does not put this project on the back-burner.

'I had mentioned about the project briefly to the chief minister (J. Jayalalithaa) yesterday (Wednesday),' Japanese Ambassador Akitaka Saiki said Thursday, adding he hoped it will be completed.

Japan is the major lender for the Rs.14,000 crore metro rail project, a pet project of the erstwhile DMK government.

While the central and the state government will fund the project to the tune of 41 percent, the balance will be funded by Japan International Cooperation Agency (JICA).

India is the largest receiver of assistance from Japan Official Development Assistance (ODA) for the past eight years, Saiki said at a luncheon meeting organised by the Confederation of Indian Industry (CII) here.

Taking a dig at the previous DMK government, he said: 'We had requested the previous government to address the infrastructure issue. But there is not much of a progress.'

According to him, Jayalalithaa assured him that the issues would be addressed.

Saiki said investment does not happen automatically as businessmen have their own logic while choosing an investment destination.

'Businessmen would put their money where they get better treatment,' he said.

Referring to the issues in infrastructure development in India, he said: 'The buck does not stop anywhere. We want the buck to stop somewhere.'

Referring to the $10 billion bilateral trade between Japan and India, Saiki said the volume is expected to improve once the Comprehensive Economic Partnership Agreement (CEPA) comes into force this August.

'The bilateral trade between the two countries is only two percent of Japan's total exports,' he said.

According to him a big trade delegation led by Japan's Chamber of Commerce chief is expected to visit New Delhi and Chennai later this year to explore business opportunities.

Saiki expressed concern at the restrictions placed on the import of Japanese food products by the Japanese nationals here on the fear of radioactive contamination following the nuclear reactor accident in his country.

'This is too much. The food in Japan are tested and marketed after that. Those food items that Japanese nationals in India want to eat are stopped,' he said.

Asked about the labour strike at Maruti Suzuki's car plant near New Delhi, he said the company officials have told him that the issue is under control and there is no fear of further fall out.

Speaking at the event, CII's southern region chairman T.T. Ashok said Tamil Nadu is the host for around 240 out of more than 700 Japanese companies in India.

He said the bilateral trade target of $25 billion for 2012 is modest given the potential.

Ashok said Japanese companies can invest in Indian steel and pharmaceutical sectors.

ging11
June 16th, 2011, 08:00 PM
When was the rate fixed?

By CMRL? June 2011



Land rates around Alandur have gone up in recent times after MRTS extension work began and after Metro work was announced.

Most people living in India will know that land Rates in India have been defying gravity esp Chennai, this is one sector that did not see recession. Project or no project. If the Mount station proximity & extra FSI factors are put in, the rates should be much much above 6K!

rsrikanth05
June 16th, 2011, 08:51 PM
By CMRL? June 2011




Most people living in India will know that land Rates in India have been defying gravity esp Chennai, this is one sector that did not see recession. Project or no project. If the Mount station proximity & extra FSI factors are put in, the rates should be much much above 6K!
You have a point.

Second post: Someone please tell Amma, Metro and mono aren't interchangeable. You've built so much of metro, you build the rest.

ceeznic pirate
June 17th, 2011, 10:11 AM
TRAFFIC SLOWS DOWN AS Metro Rail work picks up speed
Soil Testing Begins For Construction Of Underground Stations At Four Places On Washermenpet-Chennai Airport Corridor
TOI (http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/Scripting/ArticleWin.asp?From=Archive&Source=Page&Skin=TOINEW&BaseHref=TOICH/2011/06/17&PageLabel=2&EntityId=Ar00201&ViewMode=HTML)

Back in 2010, when work on the Chennai Metro Rail was just gaining momentum, then managing director of Chennai Metro Rail Limited T V Somanathan said that construction of the underground stretch would be like a heart by-pass surgery. Inconvenient and painful in the beginning, but once completed, it would be smooth sailing.
The treatment has started, it seems. Driving along Anna Salai is proving to be a trying experience as Metro Rail has begun soil testing at four places — Government Estate, LIC building, Nandanam and Saidapet — on the underground stretch of Metro Rail. In all, seven underground stations will be constructed on Anna Salai as part of the Washermenpet-Chennai airport corridor. These are Government Estate (near new secretariat), LIC, Thousand Lights, Gemini, Teynampet, Chamiers Road and Saidapet.
The work sites on Anna Salai are rapidly turning into bottlenecks. In the past few days, traffic has begun to slow down and pile up on the arterial road during peak hours. Bus commuters too are inconvenienced because a portion of the bus bay at LIC has been cordoned off for soil testing. “Full-scale work will begin after monsoon. By then, tunnel boring machines will be employed. We have not sought traffic diversion as yet,” said a senior Metro Rail official.
Traffic flow is expected to worsen on the stretch when Metro Rail begins soil testing at Thousand Lights, Gemini and Teynampet in the following months. The alternatives are limited when it comes to traffic diversion along Anna Salai. However, work on the underground stations will be carried out in a phased manner to minimise congestion. Metro Rail proposes to excavate a part of the road, complete work on a half of the station, refill the completed portion and then repeat the same process for the second half.
A senior Metro Rail official said, “We have decided to ask for road space to be cordoned off as and when the soil tests begin. Works will be carried out after obtaining permission from the traffic police.”
A joint venture between Gammon India and Mosmetrostroy, a Russian firm, has bagged the contract to build the underground stations of Metro Rail.

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rsrikanth05
June 17th, 2011, 12:21 PM
Who is tunneling the UG stretch?
And when are the TBMs expected to arrive ???

ferrari_fan
June 17th, 2011, 01:59 PM
I agree, TDR is definitely NOT an option here. You can't have a lopsided pin tower next to a track.

When was the rate fixed?
Land rates around Alandur have gone up in recent times after MRTS extension work began and after Metro work was announced.

While I agree land rates would have now gone up after Metro & MRTS were announced, I certainly don't think land prices in the area were as low as Rs. 900/sqft for a long time now..

And why not TDR? I thought increased building height and density were a natural effect along mass transit corridors?

rsrikanth05
June 17th, 2011, 05:21 PM
And why not TDR? I thought increased building height and density were a natural effect along mass transit corridors?

There was a picture of a half demolished building next to a U/C metro track. I think Delhi or Bangalore. The building, looked horribly unstable. And it had grown taller thanks to TDR.

arun82
June 18th, 2011, 09:46 AM
No news on the OTA - Airport stretch.

rsrikanth05
June 18th, 2011, 10:55 AM
While I agree land rates would have now gone up after Metro & MRTS were announced, I certainly don't think land prices in the area were as low as Rs. 900/sqft for a long time now..


Forgot to add. We had a house near Madipakkam. It was well worth over 900/sqft. There is an AIRPORT nearby, no way it could've been that low.

coolmukund
June 18th, 2011, 11:01 AM
The first Pillar skeleton has sprung out at vadapalani (station area - CCCL's part) finally in front of SRM campus. Yippee:) Now it is time for some action here.

rsrikanth05
June 18th, 2011, 11:02 AM
The first Pillar skeleton has sprung out at vadapalani (station area - CCCL's part) finally in front of SRM campus. Yippee:) Now it is time for some action here.
The what? I didn't understand.
I thought Soma had already finished the viaduct at Vadapalani?

kannan infratech
June 18th, 2011, 11:21 AM
No news on the OTA - Airport stretch.

LOI issued to Lanco Infratech

rsrikanth05
June 18th, 2011, 11:49 AM
LOI issued to Lanco Infratech
Oh great.
Lanco is SLOW when it comes to building viaducts.

vijayvmail
June 18th, 2011, 08:29 PM
The first Pillar skeleton has sprung out at vadapalani (station area - CCCL's part) finally in front of SRM campus. Yippee:) Now it is time for some action here.

This is the Vadapalani junction where CCCL is constructing the 2 level flyover and the station.

bonoslack7
June 18th, 2011, 09:57 PM
Chennai Metro Rail Limited has already commenced soil testing work along Anna Salai. Installation of the Tunnel Boring Machines (TBMs) is under way and full-fledged underground tunnelling is expected to begin within six months.

http://i.imgur.com/YJqpX.jpg

source: Hindu

josephantony
June 19th, 2011, 06:07 AM
Do any one have a Idea,when will the metro rail get finished and also how is the structure of metro rail?

rsrikanth05
June 19th, 2011, 07:28 PM
Chennai Metro Rail Limited has already commenced soil testing work along Anna Salai. Installation of the Tunnel Boring Machines (TBMs) is under way and full-fledged underground tunnelling is expected to begin within six months.

http://i.imgur.com/YJqpX.jpg

source: Hindu
Woah, TBMs hath arrivest in Chennai ???

Kewl Batty
June 21st, 2011, 12:27 AM
^^ I guess they'll arrive sometime in september and work might commence after monsoon in october/november. A total of 8-10 TBMs will be used I guess in parallel.

rsrikanth05
June 21st, 2011, 07:56 AM
Wait one second.
How can Gammon be doing tunneling, haven't they been blacklisted ???

madrasi7777
June 21st, 2011, 10:04 AM
A mile stone achieved :)

With the topping of pillar no. 107 on 100 feet road 1 km has been completed. They have progressed to p/105 and i guess it will be topped by today tomorow.

rsrikanth05
June 21st, 2011, 11:00 AM
A mile stone achieved :)

With the topping of pillar no. 107 on 100 feet road 1 km has been completed. They have progressed to p/105 and i guess it will be topped by today tomorow.
Which section of 100feet road?
Koyambedu - Vadapalani - Ashok Nagar ???

Gansan
June 21st, 2011, 11:34 AM
Today I saw the span of viaduct between the first two pillars completed near the OTA. No way to take a photo as I was riding a two wheeler and the traffic was dense.

rsrikanth05
June 21st, 2011, 11:42 AM
Today I saw the span of viaduct between the first two pillars completed near the OTA. No way to take a photo as I was riding a two wheeler and the traffic was dense.
If I am correct, Larsen and Toubro is doing that?

arun82
June 21st, 2011, 12:23 PM
If I am correct, Larsen and Toubro is doing that?

Yes - This is line 1A from Airport to Saidapet

rsrikanth05
June 21st, 2011, 12:25 PM
Yes - This is line 1A from Airport to Saidapet
Thanks, about the UG section. How can Gammon be doing tunneling, haven't they been blacklisted ???

arun82
June 21st, 2011, 12:32 PM
Wait one second.
How can Gammon be doing tunneling, haven't they been blacklisted ???

They have the contract for the station work only. Tunnelig contract is not awarded for saidapet-Cenral corridor

rsrikanth05
June 21st, 2011, 12:44 PM
They have the contract for the station work only. Tunnelig contract is not awarded for saidapet-Cenral corridor
But still, they've been blacklisted.

Vicvin86
June 21st, 2011, 01:07 PM
They have the contract for the station work only. Tunnelig contract is not awarded for saidapet-Cenral corridor

They bagged contract for design and construction of Underground Stations at Gemini, Teynampet, Chamiers Road , Saidapet, Government Estate, LIC Building, Thousand Lights and Associated Tunnels.

Source : http://www.chennaimetrorail.gov.in/tenderaward.php

Vicvin86
June 21st, 2011, 01:08 PM
But still, they've been blacklisted.
For a year after Delhi metro construction accident rite?

Abhishek901
June 21st, 2011, 01:19 PM
Wait one second.
How can Gammon be doing tunneling, haven't they been blacklisted ???

Gammon has been blacklisted for 2 years by Delhi metro. Other metros may be free to consider this or not. Not just that, Gammon might still be applicable for bidding in DMRC's tenders because it was blacklisted for just 2 years and there was no new construction expected in those 2 years. Only after approx 2 years DMRC would have gone for tendering for most of the Phase-III lines (that is Oct 2011). If DMRC awards most of the tenders of elevated and u/g lines before Oct 2011, only then this ban would carry any meaning.

rsrikanth05
June 21st, 2011, 01:35 PM
Gammon has been blacklisted for 2 years by Delhi metro. Other metros may be free to consider this or not. Not just that, Gammon might still be applicable for bidding in DMRC's tenders because it was blacklisted for just 2 years and there was no new construction expected in those 2 years. Only after approx 2 years DMRC would have gone for tendering for most of the Phase-III lines (that is Oct 2011). If DMRC awards most of the tenders of elevated and u/g lines before Oct 2011, only then this ban would carry any meaning.
Aah, that clears things up, but won't a two year ban mean that they can't bid till those two years are over?

Cosmicbliss
June 21st, 2011, 03:27 PM
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-06-19/chennai/29676361_1_chennai-metro-rail-labs-classrooms

School loses classrooms, labs to Metro Rail line
TNN Jun 19, 2011, 12.49am IST
CHENNAI: Students of classes 11 and 12 of Jawaharlal Vidyalaya at Ashok Nagar returned from their summer vacations this week found a portion of their school building missing. The demolition, they learned later, was carried out to make way for Chennai Metro Rail.

Around 400 students take classes on the campus, of which 2,131 square feet has been acquired by Metro Rail. The school has another campus down the road, where the other classes are housed. The school has lost three classrooms and a physics lab on the third floor and a large indoor sports area on the 4th floor. Apart from these, there are seven classrooms, a library, and a lab each for physics, chemistry and computer science on the ground and the first floor. Students here now stand exposed to the dust and noise of the construction that is gaining pace.

"It's going to be tough," said a teacher who didn't want to be named. Even at the pre-construction stage of the Metro Rail, there is so much dust that collects in these rooms. Wonder how bad it would get as the construction progresses," she said.

Parents of the school are surprised that they weren't informed about the development. "Demolition of the block facing the Metro Rail track started a month ago, but we were not informed about it," says Senthilnathan, parent of a Class 12 student. "Once I found out, I approached the school authorities and they looked equally stumped. They say that the construction started before they could plan or shift out," he adds.

Students are concerned more about their labs. "As of now, there is no lab for physics or computer labs. We don't know what will happen to our practical classes. I am afraid now there won't be a sports period too," says a student. The sports room had facilities for table tennis, carom and chess. School principal A V Padmakshi maintained that everything was fine and the demolition had not affected the functioning of the school. She, however, couldn't say where the labs and the demolished classrooms will be relocated.

The demolition has triggered some mild protests from some groups too. A group calling itself Citizens Guardians accused Metro Rail for not being transparent about the acquisition process. "Last year, there was a meeting to discuss the environment impact assessment, which no elected representative attended. Metro Rail promised that the public would be taken in to confidence before the project took off. The promise was never kept," said Citizens Guardians chairman V Ravichandran.

Metro Rail said the accusations were baseless. "There was a public consultation followed by a discussion on the environment impact assessment. We've done everything according to the protocol," said Metro Rail spokesperson S Krishnamoorthy.

rsrikanth05
June 21st, 2011, 03:38 PM
^^ I hope that the school is allowed to build additional floors to make up for this.

Vicvin86
June 21st, 2011, 03:49 PM
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8654/img9482v.jpg
By vintn (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/vintn) at 2011-06-07

The school name is Jawahar Higher Secondary School.

rsrikanth05
June 21st, 2011, 03:52 PM
That.. is bad... Very bad ...

Vicvin86
June 21st, 2011, 03:58 PM
^^ I studied there, first batch 2001-03. :cry:

rsrikanth05
June 21st, 2011, 04:02 PM
^^ I studied there, first batch 2001-03. :cry:
Makes it even worse.

Abhishek901
June 21st, 2011, 07:14 PM
Aah, that clears things up, but won't a two year ban mean that they can't bid till those two years are over?

Yes. They cannot bid for DMRC's contracts till around Oct 2011.

darkprinz
June 21st, 2011, 07:36 PM
why they touched jawahar school ... ???
How big is going to be the turning radius ???

rsrikanth05
June 21st, 2011, 08:19 PM
why they touched jawahar school ... ???
How big is going to be the turning radius ???
From the map, it should be going straight at the school.

madrasi7777
June 22nd, 2011, 08:16 AM
Vadapalani to Koyambedu section. Forgot to mention that.

Which section of 100feet road?
Koyambedu - Vadapalani - Ashok Nagar ???

rsrikanth05
June 22nd, 2011, 08:18 AM
Vadapalani to Koyambedu section. Forgot to mention that.
The section by Soma. Fastest I've ever seen for any Metro ...

Arul Murugan
June 22nd, 2011, 02:59 PM
works going to start near rippon building

http://tm.dinakaran.com/pdf/2011/06/22/20110622a_003101003.jpg

reporter has mentioned it as pillar.:lol:

vijayvmail
June 22nd, 2011, 04:05 PM
^^ These are I guess just periodic updates to just fill up empty space in newspaper.

They've not bothered to check what they're priniting.

Anyways, good to see works progressing.

rsrikanth05
June 22nd, 2011, 04:17 PM
That's UG section right?

murlee
June 22nd, 2011, 08:40 PM
Chennai Metro assures a job, but seeks commitment




Calling all engineers: Do you want to do a post-graduate diploma in ‘metro rail technology'? No sweat. Chennai Metro Rail Ltd (CMRL) will sponsor you for a course at IIT Madras. But, there is a catch.

After the course, one should work for the company for four years with a Rs 5-lakh bond to back one's promise.

Even if the student fails to complete the course, he will still have to pay Rs 5 lakh to CMRL. And, for those who successfully complete the course but do not join Chennai Metro within ten days of completion of the course, shall also end up Rs 5 lakh poorer.

“The CMRL is assuring a job and in turn wants a commitment from the candidates else all the investment will go waste for them,” said an official of a leading HR company.

CMRL, a joint venture company with equity participation from the Government of India and the Tamil Nadu Government, is implementing the Rs 14,000-crore Chennai Metro project. With shortage of people with expertise in metro rail technology, it has approached the IIT Madras for a solution.

Stipend

Each year, CMRL will sponsor 10 engineers (civil, mechanical, electrical, electrical and electronics and electronics and communication engineering) to the PG Diploma Course. It will pay a monthly stipend of Rs 20,000 and also sponsor tuition fees, said Mr R.G. Robinson, Assistant Professor, Department of Civil Engineering, IIT Madras. The course will commence on July 27.

The one-year course comprises two semesters with participating departments being Civil Engineering, Electrical Engineering, Management Studies and Mechanical Engineering. The first semester will cover areas such as Lean Construction Concepts, Tools and Practices and Metro systems and Engineering, while the second will include construction quality and safety management.

The project

The Chennai Metro rail envisages a 45 km public transport system with elevated and underground sections covering the city through two corridors — one a 23-km stretch linking Washermanpet in North Chennai to the airport to the South through the centre of the city and another 17-km stretch connecting the Central Railway Station to St. Thomas Mount through Anna Nagar and Koyambedu in the western parts of the city.

(This article was published in the Business Line print edition dated June 22, 2011)

coolmukund
June 22nd, 2011, 09:10 PM
The section by Soma. Fastest I've ever seen for any Metro ...

well, if that is the case, then u must see the ashok nagar - st thomas mount section by L&T. It is even faster

rsrikanth05
June 22nd, 2011, 09:16 PM
well, if that is the case, then u must see the ashok nagar - st thomas mount section by L&T. It is even faster
Last I saw that section in the third week of May, it seemed to slow for Larsen and Toubro ...

madrasi7777
June 23rd, 2011, 09:05 AM
Mukund is right the Ashok pillar side is much faster. they have topped up around 22 - 23 pillars.

Vicvin86
June 23rd, 2011, 10:05 AM
^^ March 31st


Near Ambal Nagar (Ikaduthangal)

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/7274/img5214l.jpg
By vintn (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/vintn) at 2011-03-31

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/6528/img5215m.jpg
By vintn (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/vintn) at 2011-03-31

Near Senthil Towers

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/4695/img5220v.jpg
By vintn (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/vintn) at 2011-03-31

May 1st
http://img857.imageshack.us/img857/2527/img8652.jpg
By vintn (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/vintn) at 2011-05-01

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/8792/img8650vz.jpg
By vintn (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/vintn) at 2011-05-01

Near OTP
http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/5029/img8649d.jpg
By vintn (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/vintn) at 2011-05-01

The second crane was installed today at around 0300.

June 2nd
Ambal Nagar.
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/9922/img9393x.jpg
By vintn (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/vintn) at 2011-06-03

Vicvin86
June 23rd, 2011, 10:07 AM
Work started on first of the pillars inside police quarters.

arun82
June 23rd, 2011, 11:49 AM
I would say L&T is the fastest as they got the contract in Jun 2010 and it is exactly 1 year and they have already completed 10 pillars of segment casting. The entire stretch from SIPCOT to Kasi theatre pillar erection has been completed. They are 70% complete in Kasi theatre to Ashok nagar stretch.

rsrikanth05
June 23rd, 2011, 01:17 PM
WOW!!! Looks like I was clearly mistaken.
Larsen and Toubro are amazingly fast ...

sshivakumar
June 23rd, 2011, 06:05 PM
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ging11
June 24th, 2011, 06:33 PM
I hear that the Residents of Alandur have obtained a stay against acquisition in Alandur. As reported in Media the High Court seems to have seen prima facie evidence in CMRL's attempt to short change the residents.

Interesting to watch how this develops.

Hope some sanity prevails and market value based compensation is awarded to the displaced residents.

rsrikanth05
June 24th, 2011, 06:43 PM
I hear that the Residents of Alandur have obtained a stay against acquisition in Alandur. As reported in Media the High Court seems to have seen prima facie evidence in CMRL's attempt to short change the residents.

Interesting to watch how this develops.

Hope some sanity prevails and market value based compensation is awarded to the displaced residents.
You have heard right.

Vicvin86
June 26th, 2011, 04:58 PM
http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/5/img0677y.jpg
By vintn (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/vintn) at 2011-06-26

shekar
June 27th, 2011, 07:42 AM
www.timesofindia.com

Metro Rail, which may be limited to 45km in the city with the state government declaring its preference for Monorail, is moving fast to complete work on the modern depot and stabling yard at Koyambedu. After services start in 2013, trains will be
parked, maintained and
cleaned here.
However, Metro Rail is not sure if the second stabling depot planned at Tirusulam near the airport will be constructed at all. The depot, authorities felt, would help start early-morning services from the airport.
While the Koyambedu depot will be more or less adequate to operate services on the proposed corridors - Washermenpet to Chennai Airport via Anna Salai and Chennai Central to St Thomas Mount via Koyambedu - Metro Rail feels a second yard is also needed. The final decision is with the government.
“The stabling yard near the airport will be useful only when the frequency of trains is increased. It will be constructed under a separate tender. There is no urgency that the yard be ready when the trains start running. But the Koyambedu depot is crucial,” said a senior Metro Rail official.
The depot, for which L&T has bagged a Rs198-crore contract, will come up on 26 hectares of land off Jawaharlal Nehru Salai and beyond the Koyambedu bus terminus. “The works are progressing as per schedule. Land works are nearing completion and the required machinery is getting ready” the official said.
It will be a depot-cum-workshop where trains will be brought on a ramp from the Koyambedu Metro Rail station. It will have the capacity to handle 54 six-car trains and will house the machinery required to maintain trains, tracks, overhead power cables and others. There would be an inspection shed at three levels to inspect the roof, body and floor, and the under-gear of coaches, said an official.
There will be 15 stabling lines that can handle two sixcar trains, a washing plant, maintenance workshops, stores and a few other facilities. A state-of-the-art operation control centre from where all train movements and operational activities can be monitored will be set up.
Keeping future expansion in mind, Metro Rail has provided space for another 15 lines. But officials said they might not be required because the Metro was unlikely to be expanded beyond phase I. The government is yet to decide on the issue.
Layers of maintenance
The layout of the Metro Rail depot, which is expected to be ready by the time the Koyambedu-St Thomas Mount line works gets completed
Stabling shed

(place where trains will be parked overnight)

• 12 stabling lines in a covered shed

• Automatic car washing plant

• Lathe to re-profile wheels
Inspection shed
(Place to check for wear and tear)

• It’s going to be at 3 levels — for maitenance of undergear, body or floor and roof equipment
Rolling stock maintenance shed
(for major repairs)

• Six lines will be there in the maintenance shed
Heavy repair maintenance shed
(for overhaul)

• Four sets of cranes to lift coaches

• A wheel shop
Infrastructure maitenance shed

• To maintain diesel shunting locomotive, overhead line maintenance vehicles, power supply equipment, track maintenance

Vicvin86
June 27th, 2011, 04:03 PM
Completed section near Senthil towers.
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/4633/img0875lq.jpg
By vintn (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/vintn) at 2011-06-27

Work near Asarkana bus stand. Thalaivar says all is well.
http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/3952/img0876s.jpg
By vintn (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/vintn) at 2011-06-27

sshivakumar
June 27th, 2011, 06:01 PM
Completed section near Senthil towers.
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/4633/img0875lq.jpg
By vintn (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/vintn) at 2011-06-27


^^ Awesome picture, thanks for keeping us up-to-date.

FrankPanaMan
June 28th, 2011, 12:39 AM
^^
Looking @ the above pics makes one wonder that mayB Chennai might start metro operations b4 Mumbai !! Work seems 2 b progressing lightening fast ! Kudos to all those involved in d project..
Go Chennai GO !:nuts:

ChennaiLeader
June 28th, 2011, 07:14 AM
Koyembedu and CMBT metro station work (soil test) in progress and alternate route for buses is almost ready.

http://epaper.dinamalar.com/PUBLICATIONS/DM/DINAMALAR/2011/06/27/Article//103/27_06_2011_103_002.jpg

Source: Dinamalar epaper - June 27th 2011.

Arul Murugan
June 29th, 2011, 09:09 AM
^^

that is a good news! but can any tell where is this alternate road coming up?

rsubbu.mdu
June 29th, 2011, 10:25 AM
Completed section near Senthil towers.
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/4633/img0875lq.jpg
By vintn (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/vintn) at 2011-06-27



Shortly these pillars will become landmarks like in in Delhi and people will start saying take left opposite to Pillar 145 or the building opposite to Pillar 148 and all.....^^

arun82
June 29th, 2011, 11:47 AM
^^

that is a good news! but can any tell where is this alternate road coming up?

The new road will be parrallel to the existing road in the metro land.


L& T has started to cast Jumbo pillars of 70-80 feet high. The one above is more than 3 storey high.

darkprinz
June 29th, 2011, 07:32 PM
^^ arun where are these big pillars u have mentioned coming up ???

chennaidetroit
June 29th, 2011, 10:48 PM
Shortly these pillars will become landmarks like in in Delhi and people will start saying take left opposite to Pillar 145 or the building opposite to Pillar 148 and all.....^^

Impossible, once those barricades are removed these pillars will be filled with poster in no time, all the way up to the top, at big junctions they will support cut outs and in location away from roads they act as toilets: lol:

vijayvmail
June 29th, 2011, 11:20 PM
The new road will be parrallel to the existing road in the metro land.


L& T has started to cast Jumbo pillars of 70-80 feet high. The one above is more than 3 storey high.

Are these pillars above Kathipara?
But I think 70-80 feet is too high. Shouldn't it be more like 20 - 25 feet?

vijayvmail
June 29th, 2011, 11:32 PM
http://www.thehindu.com/multimedia/dynamic/00670/30THSTATUE_670155e.jpg

The Chennai Corporation council passed a resolution on Wednesday permitting the temporary relocation of three statues within the Ripon Building campus to facilitate the Metro Rail work.

The statues, including those of George Frederick Samvel Marqvess of Ripon (Viceroy of India 1880-1884), are likely to be shifted temporarily by the Metro Rail shortly.

Other works required for the project in the Ripon Building campus and Victoria Public Hall would begin after Chennai Metropolitan Development Authority's Heritage Conservation Committee gives its approval.

A team of officials of the Chennai Metro Rail Limited (CMRL) had visited Ripon Building on April 20 and inspected the heritage structures that are likely to be shifted to facilitate the construction of an underground station box.

The civic body had requested the CMRL to leave the statue of Pitty Theagaraya, first president of Madras Corporation, undisturbed.

The CMRL has agreed to examine the possibility of completing the work without shifting the statue.

Height of barricades

The CMRL had also assured the Chennai Corporation of limiting the height of the barricades in the Ripon Building campus to five feet.

The ventilator shafts would be positioned along the western boundary of Ripon Building. The escalators for the station may be located at the south west corner of Ripon Building.

The gate of the Victoria Public Hall would be temporarily shifted to the side facing the Moore Market Complex to facilitate the Metro Rail work.

The health centre building in Saidapet zonal office and ESI land nearby would also be handed over to the CMRL.



Source: The Hindu, dated june 30, 2011 (http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Chennai/article2145382.ece)

gtmashok
June 30th, 2011, 04:35 AM
Can someone clarify, will the second phase of metro be implemented? Any idea on the locations covered?

Vicvin86
June 30th, 2011, 05:20 AM
^^ Only phase one which is currently under construction will be implemented. Monorail will replace all other proposed metro phases.

Arul Murugan
June 30th, 2011, 08:39 AM
The new road will be parrallel to the existing road in the metro land.


L& T has started to cast Jumbo pillars of 70-80 feet high. The one above is more than 3 storey high.

thanks, hope that parallel road is in the south of existing road! Also it should be 4-lane road to handle the buses effectively.

arun82
June 30th, 2011, 09:56 AM
^^ arun where are these big pillars u have mentioned coming up ???

Between SIDCO ( Olympia towers) to katipara ( Jyoti theatre) . These are huge becos they have go over katipara flyover at some 15 to 20 feet over the flyover.

arun82
June 30th, 2011, 09:58 AM
Are these pillars above Kathipara?
But I think 70-80 feet is too high. Shouldn't it be more like 20 - 25 feet?

They will be 70-80 feet becos assuming an person is 6 feet. Then 20-25 feet is the height of 6 people standing on top of each other. The pillar in the above image will be 50 feet tall.

arun82
June 30th, 2011, 10:00 AM
thanks, hope that parallel road is in the south of existing road! Also it should be 4-lane road to handle the buses effectively.

They are south of the existing road and 4 laned. Good thing is they are straight unlike the existing road which is twisting and turning. But they should not allow buses to be parked in the road

gtmashok
June 30th, 2011, 07:04 PM
^^ Only phase one which is currently under construction will be implemented. Monorail will replace all other proposed metro phases.

That's sad. :( I thought at least second phase will be implemented.

lexraja
June 30th, 2011, 09:19 PM
That's sad. :( I thought at least second phase will be implemented.


Dont worry about it yet . Metro-Phase 1 (The one under construction) is the only one that is assured as of now . The rest Metro/Mono are just on papers . If the current Govt goes ahead with Mono , it should still prepare a plan obtain funds and begin implementation before its tenure ends . If that does not happen and DMK comes back to power again ,Metro could have a new lease of life . None of these projects are certain unless they actually begin construction . Even then you can never be sure (Example : TNLA)

:)

Vicvin86
July 1st, 2011, 03:11 AM
That's sad. :( I thought at least second phase will be implemented.

Which one do you think is phase 2?

chennaidetroit
July 1st, 2011, 01:27 PM
That's sad. :( I thought at least second phase will be implemented.

With no talks of even Phase 2 or Phase 3 of metro, I feel its better to cut our losses and stop construction now. With no future this is going to end as another MRTS.

coolmukund
July 1st, 2011, 05:12 PM
The viaduct has crossed MMDA signal and is at P/104 in the koyambedu side. In the Ashok nagar end, the viaduct has reached P/157.

madrasi7777
July 2nd, 2011, 10:57 AM
I think on the koyambedu section p/102 is topped up too. The pace is encouraging now.

arun82
July 3rd, 2011, 02:00 PM
Corporations legal battle reaches crucial tage


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CHENNAI: The decades old legal battle between the Chennai Corporation and Hotel Picnic, located on land leased out by the civic body, has reached a crucial phase after the Chennai Metro Rail has approached the Corporation seeking more land near the Ripon Building for constructing ancillary buildings, escalators and ventilator shafts for a metro station.Corporation sources said a detailed hearing in the legal battle between the civic body and the hotel is likely in the next couple of weeks in the Madras High Court.The scheduled 'detailed daylong court hearing' gains more significance after Mayor M Subramanian on Wednesday went on record stating that the prime land (where the Hotel Picnic is now located) will be put to public use soon.Subramanian said the civic body has leased out a section of its land located near the Ripon Building to Picnic Hotel, decades ago.Contrary to the agreement clause with the civic body, the hotel authorities have violated several conditions and constructed buildings obstructing the scenic beauty of historical Ripon Building, the Mayor said.Though the legal battle was going on with the hotel, senior officials of the civic body during a meeting last year stated that the Picnic Hotel land, located between Ripon Building and Victoria Public Hall, could be an ideal place to construct ancillary buildings and escalators.With the Metro Rail seeking more land, the civic body is now building its case with an intention of a final showdown against the hotel.

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/corporations-legal-battle-reaches-crucial-tage/164035-60-120.html

Vicvin86
July 4th, 2011, 10:23 AM
Near KK Nagar Telephone exchange.

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Vicvin86
July 4th, 2011, 10:24 AM
Adyar River.

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Vicvin86
July 4th, 2011, 10:25 AM
Inside Police quaters.

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Vicvin86
July 4th, 2011, 10:27 AM
Ekkaduthangal.

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dineshderick
July 4th, 2011, 12:40 PM
^^^^ Nice Shots Vicvin86.
Keep Rocking.................

khirubagaran
July 6th, 2011, 01:00 PM
Can anyone tell me how many Buses can be substituted by metro and mono per day?

My rough calculation is 60 buses with a round trip of 6 (Both metro and Mono), but I would like to get the statistics from experts in this forum.

Many Thanks in Advance.

saysenthil
July 6th, 2011, 01:02 PM
In India, three more transport operators are to launch ‘smart’ ticketing systems to cut down operating costs. Hyderabad, Chennai, and Ahmedabad transport authorities announced plans to introduce contactless smart card technology for their commuters.

The city of Chennai is getting ready to roll out contactless ticketing on its forthcoming Metro Rail transit system. Taking as a model the Hong Kong’s ‘Octopus’ system, Chennai’s prepaid cards will allow commuters to pay for transport fees on a ‘tap-and-go’ basis. Cardholders will be able to recharge their cards via automatic vending machines in Metro stations.

At the same time, the Ahmedabad Janmarg (AJL) plans to introduce new contactless ‘smart’ fare payment system. The new system will include use of plastic tokens and the introduction of smart cards in the Bus Rapid Transit System (BRTS). Both are expected to be launched by mid-August 2011. Today, BRTS sells around 80,000 paper tickets to around 110,000 individuals daily.

Meanwhile, the cards to be issued by Hyderabad Metro Rail (HMR) will be multipurpose smart cards that could be used for buying tickets for traveling in the Metro, buses, and Multi-Modal Transport System (MMTS), which is Hyderabad’s city train service.

The Hyderabad’s smart card will enable holders to use them for paying parking charges and toll fees. Also, HMR has plans to tie up the card with a host of business establishments, thus allow commuters to use them for petrol bunks, shopping malls, hotels and restaurants.



(Note: I wont be able to put the link of this article)

Vicvin86
July 6th, 2011, 01:10 PM
^^^^ Nice Shots Vicvin86.
Keep Rocking.................
Thanks!
Near MMDA.
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arun82
July 6th, 2011, 02:08 PM
Areas of concern

Station work and Stretch in Vadapalani in snail pace.

Segment casting by 2 gantry cranes by L&T has not progressed beyond the first pillar

Not even soil testing commenced for OTA - AIRPORT stretch

vijayvmail
July 8th, 2011, 06:50 AM
A huge piling machine has moved right to the center of the road just in front of Udhayam theatre near Ashok Pillar. From the Hot chips junction on the IRR, the line turns and almost makes a diagonal cut through Police quarters, one pillar right in front of Udayam, one pillar at the intersection next to udayam and then on to the other side of the road. Then it takes a turn and comes back to the median to proceed towards Kasi theatre.

The foundation concrete work going on for one pillar over the Adayar river beyond Kasi theatre. In a few days, the pillar skeleton will start coming up. That stretch is one of the most congested parts - bringing the gantry crane and from the median near Kasi theatre on to the sides to cross the river and then back to the median on the other side is going be an extreme challenge.

madrasi7777
July 9th, 2011, 11:12 AM
You are right vijay! this will be a challenge. Another challenge will be the Guindy rail over bridge.

A huge piling machine has moved right to the center of the road just in front of Udhayam theatre near Ashok Pillar. From the Hot chips junction on the IRR, the line turns and almost makes a diagonal cut through Police quarters, one pillar right in front of Udayam, one pillar at the intersection next to udayam and then on to the other side of the road. Then it takes a turn and comes back to the median to proceed towards Kasi theatre.

The foundation concrete work going on for one pillar over the Adayar river beyond Kasi theatre. In a few days, the pillar skeleton will start coming up. That stretch is one of the most congested parts - bringing the gantry crane and from the median near Kasi theatre on to the sides to cross the river and then back to the median on the other side is going be an extreme challenge.

Gansan
July 11th, 2011, 06:58 AM
The viaduct in front of OTA is two spans long as of this morning.

Arul Murugan
July 12th, 2011, 06:58 AM
works starts near high court

http://epaper.dinakaran.com/pdf/2011/07/12/20110712c_015101004.jpg

DKN

vsonline
July 13th, 2011, 12:08 PM
i have a question.
don't they work on sundays???
or during day time???

i went to city on sunday and found no one working, there were only barricades and machines, no workers.

or has amma ordered the work to stop?????

Indian Sun
July 13th, 2011, 02:42 PM
^^ Haven't noticed any difference in work intensity on weekends. Maybe others who commute the IRR stretch can tell us. Work seems to be progressing on course from Kathipara to CMBT.

bonoslack7
July 13th, 2011, 05:01 PM
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