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Kewl Batty
August 8th, 2010, 02:33 PM
:cheers: Wow! Unbelievable news of MRTS take-over by CMRL. We had been talking about this for quite something and never had an idea that CMRL will even think of doing that!

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Btw, Are they planning to integrate Chennai Fort Suburban station + MRTS station with High Court Metro station? Mabbe a Pedestrian subway or a skywalk?

How about a skywalk from CMBT to CCCBT across Kaliamman koil road? This can actually help people commute between the two bus stations and the future CMBT metro stations. It will also ensure pedestrian safety!

Indian Sun
August 8th, 2010, 03:07 PM
kushboo, namitha poiyi, ippo cmrl ku kovil katura nilamaikku vanthachu... kovil ulla alstom oda rolling stock kaduvula vaingappa. :lol:

You can say Bangalore's mock up is something like that :) People throng it for no reason. 3 months into operation and no one will give the rolling stock a second glance.

kongutamizhan
August 8th, 2010, 04:12 PM
kushboo, namitha poiyi, ippo cmrl ku kovil katura nilamaikku vanthachu... kovil ulla alstom oda rolling stock kaduvula vaingappa. :lol:

Namitha, Kushboo alavukku CMRL appadi enna senjiruchunnu kovil kattaranga? Nami and Kushboo's achievements are unparelleled

bonoslack7
August 8th, 2010, 10:17 PM
Alstom is best in High speed rail. It is not that much popular for metros. Bombardier is considered the best in metro.

ok. atleast its the best from my experience. The NE line in Singapore is just awesome and the largest metro thats all automatic.

sshivakumar
August 9th, 2010, 11:34 AM
You got my point on dot friend....Think of this ...having spent thousands for a flight ticket will anyone think twice about shelling out a few hundreds for taxi. even a budget traveller will opt an auto...will anyone think of travelling in a metro with a 25 kg baggage...reach the destination and then take an auto,

Tell me an convient change over point between airport and guindy. All are over the Gst . Further the St thomas mount is far away from GST . So transfer in ST thomas mount is not possible.

If they reach guindy they will not change over becos CMBT is only 30 mins from there

Also on fare , Pallavaram to OTA is Rs 4 in M services and assuming it will Rs 10 for metro from OTA to CMBT. Then total cost will be Rs 14. If the same person takes the bus it will be Rs 7 to RS 9 in M Service. Rs 13 in deluxe may be 15 mins more travel time.

Am i wrong in my calculations


As many other friends told here, I am sure the patronage will increase once a good service is in place. Just an example, I traveled from Rome to Paris last weekend and I took only trains for airport transfers in both Rome and Paris. As a matter of fact the platform from where the train starts in Rome is almost 500 mts from the station entrance and I saw many people taking the train with big baggages. Ofcourse the reason why people may prefer the train may be the taxi fare is almost 4 times the train fare (60-70 Euros) and time taken to reach the airport purely depends on the highway traffic.

Regarding the various fares mentioned above, the next major initiative we all want to see is the Unified Transportation Authority. In Paris I was able to travel in all modes of transport with one single ticket, I do the same in Rome too.

Kewl Batty
August 9th, 2010, 12:45 PM
PRESS RELEASE
6-8-2010
Chennai Metro Rail Limited places orders for the Rolling stock (http://chennaimetrorail.gov.in/press_releases/pre11.pdf)
Chennai Metro Rail Limited has awarded the tender for the supply of Rolling stock (cars) on 2-8-2010 to M/s. Alstom Transport S.A & Alstom Projects India Ltd. Consortium at a cost of Rs. 1471.3 crores. The scope of work comprises 'Design, manufacture, supply, testing and commissioning of coaches including training on operation and maintenance’. The order has been placed for 42 train sets of 4-car configuration i.e. 168 coaches. It also includes the supply of spares and special maintenance tools.
The cars under procurement for the project are of state of the art design, air-conditioned, light weight, made of stainless steel, with 3 phase AC drive and regenerative braking system. The cars will have Automatic Train Protection (ATP) and Automatic Train Operation (ATO). All the cars are provided with electrically operated biparting automatic sliding doors to ensure the safety of passengers. Besides, these cars will have electronic route map, Public Address system, Passenger Emergency Intercoms, Video surveillance and CCTV. Each rake shall have two wheel chair parking location for the benefit of physically challenged persons. The cars will be equipped with gang ways to facilitate easy movement of passengers from one car to another. The cars will operate on 25 KV through an Overhead Catenary System.
Each 4-car rake will be provided with a 1st class seating section in the coach closest to the operator's cab. The 4-car configuration will be designed and manufactured for future convertibility to a 6-car rake at a later date when traffic demand goes up.
The maximum allowable operating speed of the vehicles shall be 80 kmph with maximum design speed of 90 kmph. A minimum headway of 3.0 minutes will be maintained to satisfy normal peak ridership. For a 4-car metro rake composition, the capacity will be 1276 persons including seating and standing.

Kewl Batty
August 9th, 2010, 12:48 PM
Only Alstom is there in the consortium. I don't see BEML.

Automatic Train Operation (ATO). So no drivers? :)

Anniyan
August 9th, 2010, 01:22 PM
Only Alstom is there in the consortium. I don't see BEML.

Automatic Train Operation (ATO). So no drivers? :)

so the trains wont stop a few meters ahead or away from the stop then.

Drivers will probably just do the gate closing job.

cofee
August 9th, 2010, 02:18 PM
so the trains wont stop a few meters ahead or away from the stop then.

Drivers will probably just do the gate closing job.

Although Metro does not come under Indian Railway/Souther Railway,The Railway workers union, CRWU, UMRIL, SRWU will not allow atomatic trains.

There will be blood bath all over India, All unions will strike as they will fear this automatic train will follow in to railway network.

The unions cannot allow trains running on time, prevention of annual mass fatalities due to human error (drunk railway worker)

r3dg33k
August 9th, 2010, 02:51 PM
Is it wise to use metro unmanned ?

They should put atleast a guard in each train for security purposes.

darkprinz
August 9th, 2010, 03:31 PM
Although Metro does not come under Indian Railway/Souther Railway,The Railway workers union, CRWU, UMRIL, SRWU will not allow atomatic trains.

There will be blood bath all over India, All unions will strike as they will fear this automatic train will follow in to railway network.

The unions cannot allow trains running on time, prevention of annual mass fatalities due to human error (drunk railway worker)

Am sorry i thought in Delhi it is automatic ... Am i wrong ??? :uh:

OrbitZen
August 9th, 2010, 04:46 PM
Is it wise to use metro unmanned ?

They should put atleast a guard in each train for security purposes.

ATO might only apply to switching, signaling & stopping the cars to align with platform doors. Manual intervention is certainly needed to put the vehicle on overdrive and also on closing the doors.

From my exp..few months back, on my daily commute in DC metro, there was a gentleman in his 50's standing next to us and he fainted when the train was about to stop at the station. A few of us rushed to the front car and informed the driver to call for medical help. Driver waited till paramedics arrived in 5 mins and took this man out of the car.

In spite of being rated as the 2nd highest patronage after NY subway and as the first in overall metro safety, in June 2009, the 5.05 pm Red line rammed into a stopped metro train and 9 people lost their lives in that tragic accident, even though it was manned. Investigations found that a replaced component on the tracks failed to transmit signals about the stopped train.

Guess, its necessary to have both modes for safe operation..

mugunthsboa
August 9th, 2010, 09:46 PM
Is it wise to use metro unmanned ?

They should put atleast a guard in each train for security purposes.

Its 100% safe and efficient. In singapore the NE line is completely automatic.
the train stops at pin point accuracy with the vertical screen gate(I understand we are going to have them in Chennai Metro)

For all those guys worried about the rolling stock aestheitcs, Alstom has a lot of cool designs which will definitely impress your eyes. So I dont expect some thing like the BEML ordinaries(remember people found it good 8 years back:lol::lol:).

StrappingYoungLad
August 9th, 2010, 09:52 PM
That statement of "karuvattu koodai" crowd will not go well in a civilized society. Are you advocating that they shouldn't be travelling? If this is the mentality of public then why blame the authorities for coming up with first class?

By the way where is Subra? For once I agree with him that changes like these should be from bottoms-up :lol:

You missed the part where I said I was kidding (J/K....ring a bell?). I do respect their right to earn a living and travel, but kindly shun political-correctness for a bit and think logically. Would a smelly fish basket go down well in a closed compartment like the ones the new trains would have? What about waste trickling down from afore mentioned fish basket? That said, while we expect the average person to exhibit a sense of civility, should the vendor reciprocate the same?

StrappingYoungLad
August 9th, 2010, 10:03 PM
There was a vendor's compartment to bring those stuff in suburban line, i think it will be good, if they could provide one in metro as well

Now that you mention, I do re-call the vendor compartments. However, not every vendor adhered to that, but the somewhat airy compartments of the existing system allows the smells to waft away. This may not work in a a/c closed-compartment, specially when you're recirculating the air inside to save energy. A special vendor's compartment in the new system should help them, but rules need to be enforced strictly to restrict vendors to their specified coaches. Unfortunately this zoning maneuver could just as easily be accused of "class" distinction, even though the enforcement is based on civic sense and logic.

Mad 4 Madras
August 10th, 2010, 09:59 AM
Another doubt. Will someone be allowed to sell peanuts, butter biscuits, Tea/coffee etc..etc.. in metro? Hehe train journey is waste without these in India. :lol::lol::lol: (just a kidding thought)

Mad 4 Madras
August 10th, 2010, 10:01 AM
Any new models of Alstom metro trains, or will it be the same as Delhi?

r3dg33k
August 10th, 2010, 12:18 PM
Its 100% safe and efficient. In singapore the NE line is completely automatic.
the train stops at pin point accuracy with the vertical screen gate(I understand we are going to have them in Chennai Metro)


Thanks mate. Any pictures of Alstom metro coaches ?

bonoslack7
August 10th, 2010, 01:01 PM
alstom factory is in coimbatore only...maybe that helped in winning the contract

Anniyan
August 10th, 2010, 01:44 PM
alstom factory is in coimbatore only...maybe that helped in winning the contract

Apart from the equipment manufacturing unit in Kovai, Alstom is going to set up rail coach unit in Oragadam.

wlbkng
August 10th, 2010, 02:14 PM
The above news is really exciting.. ^^^^ Can you post some links where the news is posted??

Maaran
August 10th, 2010, 02:34 PM
Although Metro does not come under Indian Railway/Souther Railway,The Railway workers union, CRWU, UMRIL, SRWU will not allow atomatic trains.

There will be blood bath all over India, All unions will strike as they will fear this automatic train will follow in to railway network.

The unions cannot allow trains running on time, prevention of annual mass fatalities due to human error (drunk railway worker)

If we get rid of these heavy machinery dugging tunnels, we could employ a few lakh more people !

This has precisely been the story of india so far. Being held hostage to these moronic special interest groups - unions, farmers, slum dwellers,etc., It is time the consumers and tax payers fight back. We should learn to aspire for things bigger& better

think_different
August 10th, 2010, 03:16 PM
Thanks mate. Any pictures of Alstom metro coaches ?

May be

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/4273/file37831175345.jpg

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6050/file67047115186.jpg

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/8001/21299141.jpg

darkprinz
August 10th, 2010, 04:51 PM
^^ It doesnot look good for my eyes :ohno: Only me or ???

coolmukund
August 10th, 2010, 04:58 PM
^^

Ewwwww..... THE DMRC and Namma Metro coaches look much better than these...... i just hope ours is not any of these.....

coolmukund
August 10th, 2010, 04:59 PM
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r3dg33k
August 10th, 2010, 05:27 PM
May be

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/4273/file37831175345.jpg

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6050/file67047115186.jpg

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/8001/21299141.jpg

Thanks for the pictures. but its really ugly

ImBoredNow
August 10th, 2010, 06:22 PM
Unforunately the facility looks like it is in India.
The white coach looks decent but the green coach is ugly.

StrappingYoungLad
August 10th, 2010, 06:32 PM
but the green coach is ugly.

The green coach looks like an angry Yu-gi-oh character.

vijayvmail
August 10th, 2010, 07:08 PM
Some of alstom's light rail and Long distance trains look very good
But i'm not able to spot a nice looking metro. They recently delivered some coaches to Amsterdam Metro. They look OK.

And I checked Alstom India and global website. there is no mention of the Chennai Order. But it is mentioned in chennai Metro website.

ChennaiIndian
August 10th, 2010, 08:06 PM
Folks, it is a long way to go before we see the Alstom coaches...don't jump into conclusions and draw comparisons!! :)

We have to wait!! :)

think_different
August 11th, 2010, 12:46 AM
Some of alstom's light rail and Long distance trains look very good
But i'm not able to spot a nice looking metro. They recently delivered some coaches to Amsterdam Metro. They look OK.

And I checked Alstom India and global website. there is no mention of the Chennai Order. But it is mentioned in chennai Metro website.

hi vijay, u r talking about below one?

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/9271/250pxamsterdammetrolhb.jpg


friends another one, its look somewhat ok, but same white

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6320/metropolis1.jpg

ModernIndia
August 11th, 2010, 02:28 AM
Alstom coaches have become much more modern these days. The coaches they have supplied for Shanghai/Barcelona metro are awesome.

In the link below, click on "Rolling stock" below "Products&Services".

http://www.transport.alstom.com/home/

You can see the photos of Shanghai/Barcelona metro.

Here are a few variations of their metro rolling stock. IMO the first one seems to be the obvious choice.
http://i42.tinypic.com/2ngu91y.jpg.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:C751A_front.jpg.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2_C830_in_KCD.JPG.
http://www.transport.alstom.com/_eLibrary/picture/pictureLowResolution_114212.jpg

ModernIndia
August 11th, 2010, 02:38 AM
Alstom supplied the metro for Dominican Republic as well. There are several photos available on the web.

Here are a few samples
http://www.flickr.com/photos/8143310@N07/3137480848/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/8143310@N07/2510880435/

Here is a model
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/2937/metroyg6.png

ModernIndia
August 11th, 2010, 02:40 AM
Here is a good ebook from Alstom about their metro with a lot of info and some great photos.
http://www.transport.alstom.com/_eLibrary/brochure/upload_103951.pdf

I like the Photo on Page 3. Shanghai line looks horrible in the ebook though. The Barcelona one is great, which I think will be selected for Chennai (Just my personal opinion, as it is no nonsense)

ModernIndia
August 11th, 2010, 02:55 AM
Here is a display from Alstom.I have to say that this is spectacular!!!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/stefanschmitz/4152760110/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/stefanschmitz/4152760112/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/stefanschmitz/4152760110/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/stefanschmitz/4152760112/in/photostream/

robertashok
August 11th, 2010, 04:00 AM
I believe Alstom is now Areva.

ModernIndia
August 11th, 2010, 04:10 AM
I am not sure about Alstom becoming Areva. The only news I could find on this is this.
Alstom and Schneider Electric finalise the acquisition of the transmission and distribution business of Areva (http://www.alstom.com/pr_corp_v2/2010/corp/66458.EN.php?languageId=EN&dir=/pr_corp_v2/2010/corp/&idRubriqueCourante=23132)

if you are sure, can you give a link? Thx.

think_different
August 11th, 2010, 05:15 AM
CONTRACT EAS-06
DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF AN ELEVATED STATION AT ST THOMAS MOUNT

http://tenders.tn.gov.in/innerpage.asp?choice=tc5&tid=cmr49302&work=1

r3dg33k
August 11th, 2010, 05:16 AM
http://www.transport.alstom.com/_eLibrary/picture/pictureLowResolution_114212.jpg

This one looks futuristic.

ModernIndia
August 11th, 2010, 05:30 AM
Looks great. However, I think the visibility is limited from the driver's cabin. It would be preferable to have a car windshield type of front. The visibility will come in handy especially near the stations where people are bound to cross/fall etc.

r3dg33k
August 11th, 2010, 05:37 AM
Another Picture
http://i35.tinypic.com/2rfucjk.jpg

think_different
August 11th, 2010, 05:41 AM
Another Picture
http://i35.tinypic.com/2rfucjk.jpg

sexy

r3dg33k
August 11th, 2010, 05:43 AM
http://i37.tinypic.com/dfyuq9.jpg
http://i38.tinypic.com/ws67nc.jpg

Arul Murugan
August 11th, 2010, 05:48 AM
Looks great. However, I think the visibility is limited from the driver's cabin. It would be preferable to have a car windshield type of front. The visibility will come in handy especially near the stations where people are bound to cross/fall etc.

Chennai Metro will have automatic platform doors, so no one will fall off or can do suicide before rolling stock.

Last model is looking too good. Let us wait what our politicians are going to select. :)

Arul Murugan
August 11th, 2010, 05:55 AM
CONTRACT EAS-06
DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF AN ELEVATED STATION AT ST THOMAS MOUNT

http://tenders.tn.gov.in/innerpage.asp?choice=tc5&tid=cmr49302&work=1

:cheers:

There should be co-ordination with MRTS, SR, MTC, TNSTC for constructing this station. We need all this means of transport to get integrated at One mega station.

1. Metro
2. Beach-Velacherry-St.Thomas MRTS
3. Beach-Egmore-Tambaram Suburban
4. Southern railways Intercity trains
5. MTC
6. Mofusil/TNSTC buses
7. Autos/Taxis
8. Two/Four wheeler parking
9. Shopping mall
10. Multiplex.

Hope we get the essence of all the above in one single station.

darkprinz
August 11th, 2010, 08:09 AM
http://i37.tinypic.com/dfyuq9.jpg
http://i38.tinypic.com/ws67nc.jpg

Thats super sexy ... black and white is my fav combo too:lol:

Keeping my fingers crossed that govt will select this one ... or next choice should be red one :banana::banana:

darkprinz
August 11th, 2010, 08:12 AM
:cheers:

There should be co-ordination with MRTS, SR, MTC, TNSTC for constructing this station. We need all this means of transport to get integrated at One mega station.

1. Metro
2. Beach-Velacherry-St.Thomas MRTS
3. Beach-Egmore-Tambaram Suburban
4. Southern railways Intercity trains
5. MTC
6. Mofusil/TNSTC buses
7. Autos/Taxis
8. Two/Four wheeler parking
9. Shopping mall
10. Multiplex.

Hope we get the essence of all the above in one single station.

Huge.. I can imagine how it will be when all the above transportation are co-ordinated and combined at St.Thomas stn. :banana:

Foriegn airport/metro station madri paraparappa irkkum .. hmm St.Thomas station ku vazhvudhan :lol::nuts:

Kewl Batty
August 11th, 2010, 09:02 AM
Its a 3 level station and will be right next to the suburban station.

3rd level will have platform for Corridor 2 of Metro & office, 2nd level will have platform for MRTS, 1st level concourse and FOBs that will connect to the Suburban station and ground level parking and other stuff.

Mad 4 Madras
August 11th, 2010, 10:17 AM
http://www.transport.alstom.com/home/products__services_2/rolling_stock/_files/file_49657_134966.jpg
http://www.transport.alstom.com/home/products__services_2/rolling_stock/_files/file_49657_134967.jpg
http://www.transport.alstom.com/home/products__services_2/rolling_stock/_files/file_49657_134968.jpg
http://www.transport.alstom.com/home/products__services_2/rolling_stock/_files/file_49657_134969.jpg
http://www.transport.alstom.com/home/products__services_2/rolling_stock/_files/file_49657_134970.jpg
http://www.transport.alstom.com/home/products__services_2/rolling_stock/_files/file_49657_134971.jpg
http://www.transport.alstom.com/home/products__services_2/rolling_stock/_files/file_49657_134972.jpg
http://www.transport.alstom.com/home/products__services_2/rolling_stock/_files/file_49657_13635.jpg

First one is Cool !

Mad 4 Madras
August 11th, 2010, 10:26 AM
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6050/file67047115186.jpg


This green one has some logo on it, can someone figure that out?

murlee
August 11th, 2010, 10:59 AM
:lol::lol: Konjam overa poromo???

r3dg33k
August 11th, 2010, 11:07 AM
This green one has some logo on it, can someone figure that out?

Its Metro DF (Distrito Federal). It operates Brasílias subway rail system.

Mad 4 Madras
August 11th, 2010, 11:41 AM
^^ Thanks. Seeing the shed, I thought it is somewhere in India. :lol:

vijayvmail
August 11th, 2010, 12:20 PM
The red one looks awesome. but it may not be completely to chennai suitable with its huge side windows.

Ours is a really hot city and with such big windows lot of sunlight will enter and make thec coaches like a glass house. This means that we should use stronger A/Cs and hence greater electricity.

Plus the sunlight and shadow passing effect inside will be really glaring even if you have shaded windows.

Slightly smaller windows like our A/C train coaches (not that finish or anything. Just the size) may be better suited.

sshivakumar
August 11th, 2010, 12:36 PM
Some interesting facts about metros around the world..

http://mic-ro.com/metro/index.html

http://mic-ro.com/metro/metrologos-static.html

vijayvmail
August 11th, 2010, 06:24 PM
This one looks futuristic.

This one and the photos of the interiors are the Singapore MRT line ones - from the North East purple line I think

They are really good. The travel is also quite smooth.

nsantha2
August 11th, 2010, 07:33 PM
I believe Alstom is now Areva.

Only Alstom's power transmission & distribution business has been sold to Areva, according to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Areva#Energy_company).

bonoslack7
August 11th, 2010, 08:01 PM
Looks great. However, I think the visibility is limited from the driver's cabin. It would be preferable to have a car windshield type of front. The visibility will come in handy especially near the stations where people are bound to cross/fall etc.

Theres no driver, its fully automatic.

natarajan1986
August 11th, 2010, 08:11 PM
update
from koyambedu to vadapalani junction,there are about 35 pillars with 28 completed and 7 in skeleton,also they have started putting decks between two or three pillars:cheers:

ModernIndia
August 11th, 2010, 10:22 PM
Natarajan,
Not fair at all. You have to share it with the rest of the world. Photos please!!!

Regarding the images in the post by Mad4Madras, the first one appears to be a tram (lower speed). It looks great though. #2 and 3 seem to be Metro trains. The last 3 are high speed trains/engines for longer distances. I have travelled in AGV type trains several times and have dreamt of such trains plying in India. With metro, the dream is one step closer to reality, I guess. Hopefully ICF will close shop or colloborate with companies like Bombardier, Alstom to create 21st century rolling stocks (or atleast late 20th century rolling stocks).

Anyway let me stop here as high speed trains are OT here.

StrappingYoungLad
August 12th, 2010, 12:13 AM
Theres no driver, its fully automatic.

That still does not mean that the a 'driverless' operation is planned. A manned presence might be required to prevent risks arising due to unforeseen failures, even though the "driver" will not operate the train. You can google the list of driverless trains in the world.

bharatiya
August 12th, 2010, 12:21 AM
So Chennai Metro is going to be first in India to have 3rd rail?

coolmukund
August 12th, 2010, 06:15 AM
^^
Chennai is not having Third Rail.... Bangalore is going to use Third Rail..... Not sure about Mumbai Metro.......

wlbkng
August 12th, 2010, 08:53 AM
^^Guys, can anyone tell what do you ppl mean by "Third Rail"?

r3dg33k
August 12th, 2010, 09:06 AM
update
from koyambedu to vadapalani junction,there are about 35 pillars with 28 completed and 7 in skeleton,also they have started putting decks between two or three pillars:cheers:

Thanks for the update. what is deck ?

r3dg33k
August 12th, 2010, 09:08 AM
^^Guys, can anyone tell what do you ppl mean by "Third Rail"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_rail

sathya_226
August 12th, 2010, 09:16 AM
Is it wise to use metro unmanned ?

They should put atleast a guard in each train for security purposes.

They have to do that. Even driver less metro in dubai is putting a man in the front just to see if everything is working properly...

kathak
August 12th, 2010, 09:49 AM
This one looks g*y to me.

Balah
August 12th, 2010, 11:40 AM
CHENNAI: Chennai Metro Rail Ltd has placed orders for the supply of 42 sets of 4-car coach configuration (168 coaches), including the supply of spares and maintenance kits with the M/s Alstom Transport SA and Alstom Projects India Consortium.

The tender for the supply of coaches and tools was given to the Consortium for a total cost of Rs.1471.3 crore and the scope of the work comprises ‘Design, manufacture, supply, testing and commissioning' of coaches, including training in operation and maintenance.

State-of-the-art design

The cars will be of state-of-the-art design with air-conditioning and light weight made of steel with 3 phases AC drive and regenerative braking system. The cars will have automatic train protection (ATP) and automatic train operation (ATO). All cars are provided with electrically operated biparting automatic sliding doors to ensure the safety of passengers. Besides, these coaches will have electronic route map, public address system, passenger emergency intercoms, video surveillance and CCTV.

Each rake shall have two wheelchair parking locations for the benefit of physically challenged persons.

The cars will be equipped with gang ways to facilitate easy movement of passengers from one car to another.

The cars will operate on 25 KV through an overhead caternary system. Each car will be provided with first-class seating section in the coach closest to the operators cab.

Future conversion

The 4-car configuration will be designed and manufactured for future conversion to a 6-car rake at a later date when traffic demand goes up. The maximum allowable operating speed of the vehicles will be 80 kmph with a maximum design speed of 90 kmph.

For a 4-car metro rake composition the capacity will be 1,276 persons, including seating and standing, says a Metro Rail press release.

http://www.hindu.com/2010/08/12/stories/2010081250890300.htm

robertashok
August 12th, 2010, 01:55 PM
^^

does it mini-tv screens near the door, to indicate the next stops and routes and time taken, plus it can also add revenue addition in the form of advertisements.

r3dg33k
August 12th, 2010, 02:11 PM
Correct me if i am wrong they have placed orders for coaches means they must have selected the design rite ? anyone have any inside info about the design?

Balah
August 12th, 2010, 02:58 PM
^^

does it mini-tv screens near the door, to indicate the next stops and routes and time taken, plus it can also add revenue addition in the form of advertisements.


As far as i have seen in some metros, the next stop will be displayed using a LED display. The TVs will primarily used for adds and schedule/maintenance updates, changing lines (for ex from Metro to MTC, MRTS).. Routes will be shown using the electronic map display... not sure as how long all these features will last(in particular the intercom facility) in our metro..lets keep fingers crossed.

Balah
August 12th, 2010, 03:00 PM
I am curious too... i could not find any info in alstom site as well in chn metro website.

natarajan1986
August 12th, 2010, 06:09 PM
Thanks for the update. what is deck ?

not the exact term i meant to say they have started putting some iron structured between two pillars to join them

Balah
August 12th, 2010, 07:08 PM
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Balah
August 12th, 2010, 07:10 PM
Thats super sexy ... black and white is my fav combo too:lol:

Keeping my fingers crossed that govt will select this one ... or next choice should be red one :banana::banana:

I second you darkprinz, that would be a wonderful selection. Lets wait and witness..

Balah
August 12th, 2010, 07:19 PM
Guys, just out of interest, a question (apologies if this had been already doscussed)

SR tickets purchased in trains bound to chennai, can it be used in Metros? Are we going to have such efficient software (ticket examinig machines) in place? Hope this feature is part of metro implementation.

Kewl Batty
August 12th, 2010, 07:56 PM
Correct me if i am wrong they have placed orders for coaches means they must have selected the design rite ? anyone have any inside info about the design?

The contract is to design and supply metro coaches. So they'll design it now only.

Abhishek901
August 12th, 2010, 08:28 PM
Automatic Train Operation (ATO). So no drivers? :)

Most of the ATO systems (for eg Delhi metro) have train operators whose only job is to open and close the doors or to manually operate the trains in case of system/computer failure or accidents.

Am sorry i thought in Delhi it is automatic ... Am i wrong ??? :uh:

Delhi metro's Yellow line is fully automated (ATO + ATP + ATC).

Airport express will also be fully automatic.

Other lines are semi-automatic (ATP + ATC) and are capable of switching to ATO if and when needed. DMRC is considering to automate the semi-automatic blue line because of heavy traffic is sees.

Some of alstom's light rail and Long distance trains look very good
But i'm not able to spot a nice looking metro. They recently delivered some coaches to Amsterdam Metro. They look OK.

And I checked Alstom India and global website. there is no mention of the Chennai Order. But it is mentioned in chennai Metro website.

Singapore's Alstoms are probably the best I have seen. But I would like to keep my fingers crossed as the design depends more on the amount the govt wants to spend than the capability of the company. The same company also designed the old local trains of Mumbai and the new ones are designed by Siemens, another reputed rolling stock manufacturer.

Lets hope the trains are an improvement over the other metros in India. Although feature-wise, these Alstom trains are at par with Delhi metro and Bangalore metro trains but I hope that they are better in terms of looks than the Bangalore's trains and the standard gauge trains for line 5 (green line) and 6 (purple line) of Delhi metro.

So Chennai Metro is going to be first in India to have 3rd rail?

Kolkata metro was the first one with 3rd rail and Bangalore metro will be the second one.

Balah
August 13th, 2010, 12:09 PM
The contract is to design and supply metro coaches. So they'll design it now only.

Hope then the prototype will be released soon...

think_different
August 15th, 2010, 11:27 PM
August 15: Former Union minister T.R. Baalu on Sunday demanded that the state government take steps to extend Chennai Metro Rail project to Tambaram.

Addressing a function to inaugurate a road overbridge at Tambaram Sanatorium to replace the existing railway level crossing, Mr Baalu said the Metro project should be extended till Tambaram since it was emerging as third terminal after the Chennai Central and Egmore. “I have already taken up the issue with the state government and the railway ministry. I hope Tambaram will be included in the Metro Rail project,” he said.

Mr Baalu said work was on to construct four more platforms at the Tambaram railway station at a cost of Rs 25 crore. “After completion of the work, the number of the platforms in the station will go up to 13.”

Inaugurating the RoB, state highways minister Vellakoil M. P. Saminathan said his department had taken a decision to make all two-lane roads in the state four-lane. He said the RoB was constrcted at a cost of Rs 16 crore and would help connect GST road with Chitalapakkam and East Tambaram.


http://www.deccanchronicle.com/chennai/baalu-extension-metro-tambaram-243

vivekajithfan
August 16th, 2010, 03:53 AM
August 15: Former Union minister T.R. Baalu on Sunday demanded that the state government take steps to extend Chennai Metro Rail project to Tambaram.

Addressing a function to inaugurate a road overbridge at Tambaram Sanatorium to replace the existing railway level crossing, Mr Baalu said the Metro project should be extended till Tambaram since it was emerging as third terminal after the Chennai Central and Egmore. “I have already taken up the issue with the state government and the railway ministry. I hope Tambaram will be included in the Metro Rail project,” he said.

Mr Baalu said work was on to construct four more platforms at the Tambaram railway station at a cost of Rs 25 crore. “After completion of the work, the number of the platforms in the station will go up to 13.”

Inaugurating the RoB, state highways minister Vellakoil M. P. Saminathan said his department had taken a decision to make all two-lane roads in the state four-lane. He said the RoB was constrcted at a cost of Rs 16 crore and would help connect GST road with Chitalapakkam and East Tambaram.


http://www.deccanchronicle.com/chennai/baalu-extension-metro-tambaram-243

Dis is really cool....And extending metro till Tambaram ll be a great boon to all chennai patrons......Hope they'll include dis extension in the second phase....And dis will be underground fa sure......

think_different
August 16th, 2010, 04:12 AM
Dis is really cool....And extending metro till Tambaram ll be a great boon to all chennai patrons......Hope they'll include dis extension in the second phase....And dis will be underground fa sure......

i don't understand it, how it will help? pls explain. because local train is already running via tambaram. its same route if metro connects, because gst rd and railway lines r going near by. as per my understanding, only benefits is ppl will directly step in&out in airport.

instead of this, v can connect the tambaram via velachery rd using mrts.

friends its my understand. pls explain about more benefits and connecting routes if i miss.

robertashok
August 16th, 2010, 08:17 AM
Guys, everybody is happy that MRTS is going to be taken by METRO, i have one fear, will Metro stations and all other good things promised does not become like MRTS.

mr_madras
August 16th, 2010, 01:14 PM
i don't understand it, how it will help? pls explain. because local train is already running via tambaram. its same route if metro connects, because gst rd and railway lines r going near by. as per my understanding, only benefits is ppl will directly step in&out in airport.

instead of this, v can connect the tambaram via velachery rd using mrts.

friends its my understand. pls explain about more benefits and connecting routes if i miss.

Definitely not much use of extending METRO to tambaram since Suburban line is just running parralel to GST. instead they can extend METRO from Airport to Oragadam without touching tambaram(Not aware any lake in between).

Also MRTS from velachery can extend upto Tambaram first then upto Oragadam later means complete connectivity. Any comments!

darkprinz
August 16th, 2010, 01:41 PM
Definitely not much use of extending METRO to tambaram since Suburban line is just running parralel to GST. instead they can extend METRO from Airport to Oragadam without touching tambaram(Not aware any lake in between).

Also MRTS from velachery can extend upto Tambaram first then upto Oragadam later means complete connectivity. Any comments!


St.Thomas mt (Present end) - Nandambakkam Chennai Trade centre -Manapakkam (DLF-L&T-IBM) - Mugalivakkam - Porur Jn -Chennai Byepass intersection station over Porur lake - Iyyapanthangal- Poonamalee - Chembarambakkam - Thandalam Kutt road(will help bus passengers to thiruvallur) - Sipcot_Irungattukotai - Sriperumbudur(inside Town) - Proposed Airport site(if cleared) - Saint gobain Factory - Touching Sunguvarchathiram in NH4 - Taking Left through lands in Hi-Tech Sipcot - through N.W direction reach Vallam - Vallakotai(Arun excello ) - Oragadam Kutt Road Jn. Further

They can then Make Oragadam as Hub -with routes to Wallajabhad rail route , Tambaram through Padappai - cutting across GST - Proceed to OMR - Towards City-End and Transit @ Thiruvanmiyur MRTS station

satchitananda
August 16th, 2010, 03:02 PM
St.Thomas mt (Present end) - Nandambakkam Chennai Trade centre -Manapakkam (DLF-L&T-IBM) - Mugalivakkam - Porur Jn -Chennai Byepass intersection station over Porur lake - Iyyapanthangal- Poonamalee - Chembarambakkam - Thandalam Kutt road(will help bus passengers to thiruvallur) - Sipcot_Irungattukotai - Sriperumbudur(inside Town) - Proposed Airport site(if cleared) - Saint gobain Factory - Touching Sunguvarchathiram in NH4 - Taking Left through lands in Hi-Tech Sipcot - through N.W direction reach Vallam - Vallakotai(Arun excello ) - Oragadam Kutt Road Jn. Further

They can then Make Oragadam as Hub -with routes to Wallajabhad rail route , Tambaram through Padappai - cutting across GST - Proceed to OMR - Towards City-End and Transit @ Thiruvanmiyur MRTS station

Nice thinking Prince. Agree its a great futuristic route.

I think there will be more pressing routes for metro.

(Avadi)/Ambattur-TNagar-Possibly to Velachery/Thiruvanmiyur. Before the 70 series dominated the landscape it was 47 series.

Perhaps a bigger need would also be for Iyyappanthangal-Porur-Vadapalani-Central-Parrys. This is a very dense route which can take multiple buses off the road. This can be tapped off the main line.

Someone suggested connecting Velachery to Tambaram/Vandalur (more via the eastern side to cover interior areas)

My vision is to have Velachery as a hub and to have routes radiate. Eventually you can add Velachery-OMR -Mahabs .

Sriperumbudur and Oragadam should definitely have an IR, metro will be a bonus. For there is a equal or bigger demand for goods/container traffic.

darkprinz
August 16th, 2010, 04:39 PM
Nice thinking Prince. Agree its a great futuristic route.

I think there will be more pressing routes for metro.

(Avadi)/Ambattur-TNagar-Possibly to Velachery/Thiruvanmiyur. Before the 70 series dominated the landscape it was 47 series.

Perhaps a bigger need would also be for Iyyappanthangal-Porur-Vadapalani-Central-Parrys. This is a very dense route which can take multiple buses off the road. This can be tapped off the main line.

Someone suggested connecting Velachery to Tambaram/Vandalur (more via the eastern side to cover interior areas)

My vision is to have Velachery as a hub and to have routes radiate. Eventually you can add Velachery-OMR -Mahabs .

Sriperumbudur and Oragadam should definitely have an IR, metro will be a bonus. For there is a equal or bigger demand for goods/container traffic.

Hmm ya ... Still 47 series is the quickest way to move from thiruvanmiyur to t.nagar ...as M7 takes long time ...

I still dont know why Mt poonamalee road till sriperumbudur is ignored !!! U have number of buses like 502,554,525,576,582,n many routes...operated by both TNSTC and MTC ..Still i bet u can atleast find their seats filled even in dead hours !!! In my college times unless i board bus in T.nagar , i am sure i need to footboard from porur to my college near sriperumbudur !!! How much commuters suffer becuase of short sighted planning .. ! This could well Pulloff some Company buses from Sriperumbudur and oragadam belt ..

For example my college operates around 50 routes around the city ..!!!!There are many colleges and Companies in that stretch ... Look how many private buses ply in that NH4 4 lane :ohno: Waiting to see someone wake up

Balah
August 16th, 2010, 05:10 PM
Nice thinking Prince. Agree its a great futuristic route.

I think there will be more pressing routes for metro.

(Avadi)/Ambattur-TNagar-Possibly to Velachery/Thiruvanmiyur. Before the 70 series dominated the landscape it was 47 series.

Perhaps a bigger need would also be for Iyyappanthangal-Porur-Vadapalani-Central-Parrys. This is a very dense route which can take multiple buses off the road. This can be tapped off the main line.

Someone suggested connecting Velachery to Tambaram/Vandalur (more via the eastern side to cover interior areas)

My vision is to have Velachery as a hub and to have routes radiate. Eventually you can add Velachery-OMR -Mahabs .

Sriperumbudur and Oragadam should definitely have an IR, metro will be a bonus. For there is a equal or bigger demand for goods/container traffic.

It sounds futuristic and indeed. However, a lot of new companies are entering into SIPCOT area of Ranipet which makes a way for extending metros to Walajapet/Ranipet(Vellore). But to your surprise, there is a plan of extending metro uptill Banglore (beyond being futuristic, unsure how realistic it is going to be)..please see below, i found this info in Vellore wiki.

Chennai–Bangalore–Mumbai Industrial CorridorPrime Minister Manmohan Singh has accepted, in principle, the suggestion made by Chief Minister M. Karunanidhi to declare the stretches along the Chennai–Bangalore highway as an industrial corridor with plans for a bullet train, a six lane road and an extension of the metro rail from Chennai to Bangalore:bash::bash::bash:. It was the opinion of the State government that by making the Chennai–Bangalore highway an industrial corridor the centre could facilitate the improvement of infrastructure along the highway on a par with world standards. It was hoped this would also help further industrial development of Vellore, Ranipet, Hosur and Krishnagiri.

The Confederation of Indian Industry (CII) welcomed the proposed corridor which is to be built in a similar style to an industrial corridor planned between Delhi and Mumbai. Under its City Connect programme the CII has held several discussions with senior officials of the Tamil Nadu government to develop the new corridor.[22]

Gopal Srinivasan the chairman of the CII's Tamil Nadu Council said "The Chennai–Bangalore industrial corridor would go a long way in tapping the potential of the two states to attract investment and help creation of a skilled workforce."[23]

Balah
August 16th, 2010, 05:13 PM
Guys, everybody is happy that MRTS is going to be taken by METRO, i have one fear, will Metro stations and all other good things promised does not become like MRTS.

I dont think so and hoping it is going to be the other way... I mean, MRTS would follow the standards of metro stations (as they have however cited that MRTS cars will be replaced by metro coaches)

Balah
August 16th, 2010, 05:15 PM
Guys, just out of interest, a question (apologies if this had been already doscussed)

SR tickets purchased in trains bound to chennai, can it be used in Metros? Are we going to have such efficient software (ticket examinig machines) in place? Hope this feature is part of metro implementation.

Folks, your views please...

Balah
August 16th, 2010, 05:21 PM
i don't understand it, how it will help? pls explain. because local train is already running via tambaram. its same route if metro connects, because gst rd and railway lines r going near by. as per my understanding, only benefits is ppl will directly step in&out in airport.

instead of this, v can connect the tambaram via velachery rd using mrts.

friends its my understand. pls explain about more benefits and connecting routes if i miss.

The merger of METRO with MRTS would sort this out, so no dedicated service would be required... its only my opinion and not to offend your views :-)

Kewl Batty
August 16th, 2010, 05:50 PM
Chennai–Bangalore–Mumbai Industrial CorridorPrime Minister Manmohan Singh has accepted, in principle, the suggestion made by Chief Minister M. Karunanidhi to declare the stretches along the Chennai–Bangalore highway as an industrial corridor with plans for a bullet train, a six lane road and an extension of the metro rail from Chennai to Bangalore:bash::bash::bash:.

Chennai - Bangalore Metro would seem weird, but mabbe viable in the future as many industrial areas are expected to pop out along the route. Mabbe in the form of commuter rail or something. It'll be the mode of transit for the workers from chennai and in-between areas of chennai-bangalore route to their work place, etc. On the other hand, bullet train is meant for commuting between the two cities and hence cannot serve this purpose. :-)

darkprinz
August 16th, 2010, 06:03 PM
It sounds futuristic and indeed. However, a lot of new companies are entering into SIPCOT area of Ranipet which makes a way for extending metros to Walajapet/Ranipet(Vellore). But to your surprise, there is a plan of extending metro uptill Banglore (beyond being futuristic, unsure how realistic it is going to be)..please see below, i found this info in Vellore wiki.


Dude i think Ranipet is too long for metro ... Let us first plan to cover areas in Chennai and periphery ..then we shall built high speed radiating lines cutting metro (which should be as cir-cum navigating city as possible ) to places this Pondy, Vellore etc.,

Arul Murugan
August 16th, 2010, 06:20 PM
Chennai - Bangalore Metro would seem weird, but mabbe viable in the future as many industrial areas are expected to pop out along the route. Mabbe in the form of commuter rail or something. It'll be the mode of transit for the workers from chennai and in-between areas of chennai-bangalore route to their work place, etc. On the other hand, bullet train is meant for commuting between the two cities and hence cannot serve this purpose. :-)

Mamta has promised MEMU trains with toilets.

So that will run as commuter train b/w Chennai and Bengaluru.

That will be the future vision of Indian railways.

darkprinz
August 16th, 2010, 06:45 PM
Guys took this vdeo on Sunday morning ... Sorry for poor quality


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvRJZM3FMEk

aveeral.Vstar
August 16th, 2010, 07:49 PM
Alstom is best in High speed rail. It is not that much popular for metros. Bombardier is considered the best in metro.

EXAAAAAACTLY !!!!!! :yes: :rock:

pxp
August 16th, 2010, 09:34 PM
Great Work Dark Prinz..... :cheers:

Balah
August 17th, 2010, 04:41 AM
Guys took this vdeo on Sunday morning ... Sorry for poor quality


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvRJZM3FMEk

Great work buddy... offline, i can see a good number of volvo and ac coaches plying.. (Mod- pls delete if the content is inappropriate to this thread)

Balah
August 17th, 2010, 04:42 AM
Dude i think Ranipet is too long for metro ... Let us first plan to cover areas in Chennai and periphery ..then we shall built high speed radiating lines cutting metro (which should be as cir-cum navigating city as possible ) to places this Pondy, Vellore etc.,

i too thought so, but surprised to find it in the wiki..am sure it will take shape only in early 2020's...

darkprinz
August 17th, 2010, 06:24 AM
pxp: thanks buddy ... Couldnt upload HQ vdeo it is around 80mb:lol:

Balah : Thanks mate . Could u provide me that wikilink :)

r3dg33k
August 17th, 2010, 06:38 AM
Guys took this vdeo on Sunday morning ... Sorry for poor quality


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvRJZM3FMEk

Great updates. thanks darkprinz

wlbkng
August 17th, 2010, 08:10 AM
As work on the Metro Rail gains pace, the question on everyone's mind is: Have lessons been learnt from the problems that plague the MRTS corridor?

Building a high density rail network is not just about the infrastructure. Issues of access, connectivity, feeder services and unified ticketing are integral parts of a well-run mass public transit system.

Chief General Manager of Chennai Metro Rail Limited (CMRL) V. Somasundaram says that the Metro Rail will be making a push towards integration and convenience of use.

Once the Metro becomes operational, he says, mini-bus services that are uniquely branded as belonging to Metro Rail will ply along short circuits within a three kilometre radius of “select stations”.

Spaces for setting up “traffic integration bays” have already been identified in Thirumangalam and Guindy. Chennai Central will also be an important point from where shuttle services will ply.

In areas of north Chennai where roads are narrow, a unique “franchised share autorickshaw” model might be tried, says Mr. Somasundaram. Autorickshaws that offer a “certain level of comfort” will be ‘branded' and a revenue sharing agreement will be employed to incentivise them to add people to the Metro rather than compete.

He adds that since all transactions will be based on the ‘common mobility card' format which will be used on the Metro, commuters can just swipe their card in a slot to use the feeder service.

According to him, since the estimated commuter density in each Metro station during rush hour is between 10,000 and 15,000, congestion reduction rested heavily on the kind of last mile services available to commuters.

Raj Cherubal, coordinator, Chennai City Connect, an NGO working on improving traffic and transport conditions in the city, says that irrespective of whether the Metro is making money or not, it should be world class. “The government must restrict itself to monitoring the line.”

He suggested a service level agreement with an operator to take care of the daily operations. It should serve as a measure to bring in extra passengers and allow a brand to be built.

The Hong Kong MTR, which is privately owned, harnesses the potential of commercial space at the stations to increase its revenue and patronage. It has the distinction of being one of the few subway systems in the world that actually makes profit.

Land-use planning

Other changes in land-use planning and taxation might also come about as a result of the Metro project. Though it is still years away, following the Delhi example, property tax rates in localities that are in the ‘influence area' of the Metro might be relooked.

The Municipal Valuation Committee constituted by the Delhi government recently suggested major changes in the existing categorisation of residential colonies and “proximity to Delhi Metro lines” was considered as one of the factors.

S. Anantharaman, Divisional Regional Manager, Southern Railway, says that move would be logical as the Metro is a service which the city provides and residents who benefit the maximum out of it will have to bear an additional burden.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Chennai/article574561.ece

Balah
August 17th, 2010, 08:13 AM
pxp: thanks buddy ... Couldnt upload HQ vdeo it is around 80mb:lol:

Balah : Thanks mate . Could u provide me that wikilink :)

@ Darkprinz - here you go

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vellore#Chennai.E2.80.93Bangalore.E2.80.93Mumbai_Industrial_Corridor

darkprinz
August 17th, 2010, 08:24 AM
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Chennai/article574561.ece


Thats nice ... Feeder service for area around 3kms :banana: Praying that everything gets into place properly ... :)

Balah:

Ya just now saw the link ... BTW what is the average speed of metro ??

IndiansUnite
August 17th, 2010, 10:04 AM
I've updated the first post of the thread with all the information that we've gathered since the inception of the project.

Link: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=591102

murlee
August 17th, 2010, 10:26 AM
Thanks IU!! :cheers:

Balah
August 17th, 2010, 01:47 PM
Thats nice ... Feeder service for area around 3kms :banana: Praying that everything gets into place properly ... :)

Balah:

Ya just now saw the link ... BTW what is the average speed of metro ??

If am not wrong as i read it somewhere, the average speed will be around 80KMPH. Guys, correct me if am not right... (but if you are asking about the metro to vellore then am not sure mate)

darkprinz
August 17th, 2010, 01:56 PM
If am not wrong as i read it somewhere, the average speed will be around 80KMPH. Guys, correct me if am not right...

Let us consider that due to train stoppage at no. of stations the avg speed be taken as 60 kmph ... If am not wrong Ranipet is around 130km ... Then it will take 2hrs for metro to reach there one way !!!

Isnt that long ??? Am i wrong in my calc. Is there any info in CMRL website which specifies the time taken for end to end travel in present route this might help us to find the time for Ranipet :)

Balah
August 17th, 2010, 02:50 PM
Let us consider that due to train stoppage at no. of stations the avg speed be taken as 60 kmph ... If am not wrong Ranipet is around 130km ... Then it will take 2hrs for metro to reach there one way !!!

Isnt that long ??? Am i wrong in my calc. Is there any info in CMRL website which specifies the time taken for end to end travel in present route this might help us to find the time for Ranipet :)

Lets reference to walajapet (walajah raod junction) as Ranipet station is yet not materialised and also it does not fall in this route. The distance to WRJ from central is between 85-90 kms and the express trains usually takes 90mins to reach. Other tarins would be ranging from 110-120mins. In case of EMU, probably between 120-180mins. Metro sould be running at par with the non express trains that cover at the speed of 75KMPH...am bad at calculations, so pls excuse...

darkprinz
August 17th, 2010, 03:38 PM
Lets reference to walajapet (walajah raod junction) as Ranipet station is yet not materialised and also it does not fall in this route. The distance to WRJ from central is between 85-90 kms and the express trains usually takes 90mins to reach. Other tarins would be ranging from 110-120mins. In case of EMU, probably between 120-180mins. Metro sould be running at par with the non express trains that cover at the speed of 75KMPH...am bad at calculations, so pls excuse...

120-180 mins ..Hmm then it is no way feasible ... They can try for high speed trains with modified comfortable coaches like that of bullet trains ...rather than metro

Balah
August 17th, 2010, 04:08 PM
120-180 mins ..Hmm then it is no way feasible ... They can try for high speed trains with modified comfortable coaches like that of bullet trains ...rather than metro

yes, the proposal also says there is going to be a bullet train between chennai and bangalore..

ImBoredNow
August 17th, 2010, 05:11 PM
If am not wrong as i read it somewhere, the average speed will be around 80KMPH. Guys, correct me if am not right... (but if you are asking about the metro to vellore then am not sure mate)

Metro to Vellore?
I didn't hear about this. Are you sure it's a Metro or like a local train?

ChennaiLeader
August 17th, 2010, 05:29 PM
"Metro Rail to push towards integration"
Ajai Sreevatsan

http://www.thehindu.com/multimedia/dynamic/00163/17THMETRORAIL_163987f.jpg
A Metro Rail project site on Jawaharlal Nehru Salai. Photo: S.S. Kumar
The Hindu A Metro Rail project site on Jawaharlal Nehru Salai. Photo: S.S. Kumar

As work on the Metro Rail gains pace, the question on everyone's mind is: Have lessons been learnt from the problems that plague the MRTS corridor?

Building a high density rail network is not just about the infrastructure. Issues of access, connectivity, feeder services and unified ticketing are integral parts of a well-run mass public transit system.

Chief General Manager of Chennai Metro Rail Limited (CMRL) V. Somasundaram says that the Metro Rail will be making a push towards integration and convenience of use.

Once the Metro becomes operational, he says, mini-bus services that are uniquely branded as belonging to Metro Rail will ply along short circuits within a three kilometre radius of “select stations”.

Spaces for setting up “traffic integration bays” have already been identified in Thirumangalam and Guindy. Chennai Central will also be an important point from where shuttle services will ply.

In areas of north Chennai where roads are narrow, a unique “franchised share autorickshaw” model might be tried, says Mr. Somasundaram. Autorickshaws that offer a “certain level of comfort” will be ‘branded' and a revenue sharing agreement will be employed to incentivise them to add people to the Metro rather than compete.

He adds that since all transactions will be based on the ‘common mobility card' format which will be used on the Metro, commuters can just swipe their card in a slot to use the feeder service.

According to him, since the estimated commuter density in each Metro station during rush hour is between 10,000 and 15,000, congestion reduction rested heavily on the kind of last mile services available to commuters.

Raj Cherubal, coordinator, Chennai City Connect, an NGO working on improving traffic and transport conditions in the city, says that irrespective of whether the Metro is making money or not, it should be world class. “The government must restrict itself to monitoring the line.”

He suggested a service level agreement with an operator to take care of the daily operations. It should serve as a measure to bring in extra passengers and allow a brand to be built.

The Hong Kong MTR, which is privately owned, harnesses the potential of commercial space at the stations to increase its revenue and patronage. It has the distinction of being one of the few subway systems in the world that actually makes profit.

Land-use planning

Other changes in land-use planning and taxation might also come about as a result of the Metro project. Though it is still years away, following the Delhi example, property tax rates in localities that are in the ‘influence area' of the Metro might be relooked.

The Municipal Valuation Committee constituted by the Delhi government recently suggested major changes in the existing categorisation of residential colonies and “proximity to Delhi Metro lines” was considered as one of the factors.

S. Anantharaman, Divisional Regional Manager, Southern Railway, says that move would be logical as the Metro is a service which the city provides and residents who benefit the maximum out of it will have to bear an additional burden.

Source: http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Chennai/article574561.ece

Balah
August 17th, 2010, 05:40 PM
Metro to Vellore?
I didn't hear about this. Are you sure it's a Metro or like a local train?

Ha ha... its metro only..also a bullet train has been planned between chn and blr...according to vellore wiki.... :ohno::ohno::ohno:

Kewl Batty
August 17th, 2010, 07:45 PM
I don't think that is a credible information. Juzz someone's dream in wiki. It doesn't cite any reference for those Metro extension to Vellore etc..

ImBoredNow
August 17th, 2010, 09:08 PM
Metro to Vellore is the most unfeasible thing I've ever heard!
Not many People commute from Vellore to Chennai everyday although I think some commute to Sriperumbudur.

robertashok
August 18th, 2010, 03:54 AM
There are metro lines which cover more than 150 kms in tokyo,but they have some concept called green car(only 2 out of 8 compartments), which is like a double decker train to be introduced in india, this green car has a great comfortable luxury seating for long distance [confirmed|reserved] travellers.

think_different
August 18th, 2010, 04:18 AM
City dwellers are hoping for the early completion of the prestigious Chennai Metro Rail Ltd (CMRL) via arterial Inner Ring Road and Mount Road to get relief from the increasing traffic congestion in the city.

They have also umpteen doubts on whether the coaches would be hitech and whether the route maps would have clear delineation between surface and underground sections.

And for those who are associated with the railways and town planning, whether the push for Metro-MRTS merger will succeed is a question high in their mind.

“Linking commercial activities such as sale of tickets will be an easy job for railways and CMRL, but to link the entire train operations will be a difficult task,” says Mr. M. Sundaram, a retired railway official.

He added that it would be easy to link the Mass Rapid Transit System with EMU section, but to link the metro rail with the MRTS needs engineering expertise, as there will be several technical hurdles.

“The coach dimensions will vary and the other operation systems and signalling may vary from MRTS to Metro rail,” he said. According to CMRL spokesperson, Mr S. Krishnamoorthy, the Rs 14,600 crore project was gaining momentum and the piling works between Koyambedu to Guindy was progressing as per schedule.

Besides, the state government is now examining the feasibility of including Thiruvottiyur in to the metro rail ambit. “The linking of MRTS and Metro rail is still at a primitive stage,” he said. “It will take at least five years to complete the Metro Rail.”

Meanwhile the Sriperumbudur MP and former union minister, Mr T.R. Baalu, felt that Tambaram should be considered for the Metro rail as the station was emerging as a third terminal benefiting south Chennai and neighboring suburbs. He has already kick-started the campaign in this regard at a recent bridge inaugural function at suburban Chromepet.

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/chennai/merger-mrts-will-take-some-doing-992

Balah
August 18th, 2010, 05:02 AM
Metro to Vellore is the most unfeasible thing I've ever heard!
Not many People commute from Vellore to Chennai everyday although I think some commute to Sriperumbudur.

Buddy, you are absolutely wrong...go to katpadi station between 6:30AM to 7:30AM, you would never find a space for yourself in the platform and also the jolarpett exress (yelagiri express) which plies between jolarpet to central would always be running full, followed by a lalbagh which also runs will full strength. similarly board any train from central post 6PM and you will find the train becomes empty at katpadi junction.

think_different
August 18th, 2010, 05:24 AM
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/6513/636201008172.jpg

Arul Murugan
August 18th, 2010, 05:51 AM
Metro to Vellore is the most unfeasible thing I've ever heard!
Not many People commute from Vellore to Chennai everyday although I think some commute to Sriperumbudur.

Not exactly correct. We can agree that Vellore to Chennai does not need metro. But it needs frequent commuter train.

06:00, 06:30, 07:00, 07:30, 08:00, 09:00, 10:00, 12:00, 14:00, 16:00, 16:30, 17:00, 17:30 18:00, 19:00, 20:00 - 16 service per day in one direction with 2.3hrs running time from Vellore Cantonment to Central will be sure hit one.

Existing line b/w Arrakonam to Katpadi could be quadrapled and Katpadi-Vellore cant. line could be doubled.

think_different
August 18th, 2010, 06:00 AM
On completion of Chennai Metro Rail project, Chennai will be the first city down south which could boast of having a twin corridor mode of transport. However, the project, projected as one of the finest in Asia, due to its stipulated completion date of 2014-2015, has made social activists worried about the difficulties public would have to face during the construction period.

“The first thing that the government has to ensure is that the project gets completed within the set period. If a project that is slated to get completed in five years is delayed year after year, then it is bound to create a great deal of difficulty for the public. In a democratic country like ours even the change of government every five years has an effect on major projects and so ultimately it is up to the government to pave the way for smooth execution of the metro rail project,” said Mr S. Kannan, a social activist.

While pointing out that any major government project is bound to create difficulties for the public, Mr T. Sadagopan, vice-president of the TN progressive consumer center, is of the opinion that if metro rail project is to have smooth execution, the government should efficiently strike up successful coordination with the public. “Metro rail is coming up through areas with a lot of traffic and business establishments. Already, the traffic department has enforced new regulations and diversions in areas like Ashok Nagar. But are the project executioners considering the monsoon that comes at the end of the year? If work is not carried out in a phased manner, this monsoon would turn out to be a nightmare for road-users as the pillar constructions have taken up 75 per cent of road space,” he said.

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/chennai/hopes-pinned-metro-993

PlaneMad
August 18th, 2010, 07:15 AM
Buddy, you are absolutely wrong...go to katpadi station between 6:30AM to 7:30AM, you would never find a space for yourself in the platform and also the jolarpett exress (yelagiri express) which plies between jolarpet to central would always be running full, followed by a lalbagh which also runs will full strength. similarly board any train from central post 6PM and you will find the train becomes empty at katpadi junction.
You seem to have the whole concept of a metro train system completely wrong. A metro corridor is purely for a high density urban area and not for suburbs.

As arul rightly pointed out, what vellore needs is a commuter rail connection. The present memu but with a higher frequency probably every 1 hour or so. Metro and suburban/commuter rail systems serve different needs altogether. Metro systems are extremely high capacity networks of over 40,000 pphpd. There is maximum 10,000 people who shuttle between vellore and chennai daily, not 40,000 per hour that a metro train can move.

vijayvmail
August 18th, 2010, 07:53 AM
City dwellers are hoping for the early completion of the prestigious Chennai Metro Rail Ltd (CMRL) via arterial Inner Ring Road and Mount Road to get relief from the increasing traffic congestion in the city.

They have also umpteen doubts on whether the coaches would be hitech and whether the route maps would have clear delineation between surface and underground sections.

And for those who are associated with the railways and town planning, whether the push for Metro-MRTS merger will succeed is a question high in their mind.

“Linking commercial activities such as sale of tickets will be an easy job for railways and CMRL, but to link the entire train operations will be a difficult task,” says Mr. M. Sundaram, a retired railway official.

He added that it would be easy to link the Mass Rapid Transit System with EMU section, but to link the metro rail with the MRTS needs engineering expertise, as there will be several technical hurdles.

“The coach dimensions will vary and the other operation systems and signalling may vary from MRTS to Metro rail,” he said. According to CMRL spokesperson, Mr S. Krishnamoorthy, the Rs 14,600 crore project was gaining momentum and the piling works between Koyambedu to Guindy was progressing as per schedule.

Besides, the state government is now examining the feasibility of including Thiruvottiyur in to the metro rail ambit. “The linking of MRTS and Metro rail is still at a primitive stage,” he said. “It will take at least five years to complete the Metro Rail.”

Meanwhile the Sriperumbudur MP and former union minister, Mr T.R. Baalu, felt that Tambaram should be considered for the Metro rail as the station was emerging as a third terminal benefiting south Chennai and neighboring suburbs. He has already kick-started the campaign in this regard at a recent bridge inaugural function at suburban Chromepet.

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/chennai/merger-mrts-will-take-some-doing-992

The Metro and MRTS are technically different. But can't they just bring both under the same administration.

Administrative integration is the hour of the need. Once the administration is integrated, technical integration can follow more slowly.

Administrative integration will lead to
1. Integrating ticketing mechanisms
2. Structuring of train schedules in all 3 lines to ensure easy switiching of lines
3. Better management of the station and train facilities
4. easier provision of feeder services to ensure last mile coverage

Once these are done, revenue will automatically start flowing in. Then they can look at upgrading the rolling stock, integrated signalling systems and other technical aspects.

Unless there is a massive public demand for this integration, slowly we'll start people from IR starting to drag their feet on the issue.

Is it possible for us to start a signature campaign or something demaning this integration? If we have enough support, we can also approach some bigger media houses like the TV networks or leading newspapers to run articles supporting the cause.

vijayvmail
August 18th, 2010, 07:56 AM
"Metro Rail to push towards integration"
Ajai Sreevatsan

http://www.thehindu.com/multimedia/dynamic/00163/17THMETRORAIL_163987f.jpg

Source: http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Chennai/article574561.ece

Really Nice forward looking idea :)

But will their political will to do all these? Does the CMRL have the ability and clout to implement these?

I find the share-auto concept to be a very good alternative to the exisitng autos in the city. Except that they should be regularized and stirctly forced not to carry people more than a stipulated load. Otherwise, they stuff in as many people as possible and are great danger to passengers and other road users.

Kewl Batty
August 18th, 2010, 08:15 AM
You seem to have the whole concept of a metro train system completely wrong. A metro corridor is purely for a high density urban area and not for suburbs.

As arul rightly pointed out, what vellore needs is a commuter rail connection. The present memu but with a higher frequency probably every 1 hour or so. Metro and suburban/commuter rail systems serve different needs altogether. Metro systems are extremely high capacity networks of over 40,000 pphpd. There is maximum 10,000 people who shuttle between vellore and chennai daily, not 40,000 per hour that a metro train can move.

Exactly! Once the CMRL starts operating Metro and take over MRTS, it should also explore taking over of suburban operations. :D

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Balah
August 18th, 2010, 10:15 AM
You seem to have the whole concept of a metro train system completely wrong. A metro corridor is purely for a high density urban area and not for suburbs.

As arul rightly pointed out, what vellore needs is a commuter rail connection. The present memu but with a higher frequency probably every 1 hour or so. Metro and suburban/commuter rail systems serve different needs altogether. Metro systems are extremely high capacity networks of over 40,000 pphpd. There is maximum 10,000 people who shuttle between vellore and chennai daily, not 40,000 per hour that a metro train can move.

Dear PlaneMad, I was only trying to justify that a lot of ppl commute everyday to Chennai from vellore... in line to the point below by ImBoredNow

Not many People commute from Vellore to Chennai everyday although I think some commute to Sriperumbudur.

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August 18th, 2010, 01:24 PM
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August 18th, 2010, 03:01 PM
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ImBoredNow
August 18th, 2010, 03:54 PM
Buddy, you are absolutely wrong...go to katpadi station between 6:30AM to 7:30AM, you would never find a space for yourself in the platform and also the jolarpett exress (yelagiri express) which plies between jolarpet to central would always be running full, followed by a lalbagh which also runs will full strength. similarly board any train from central post 6PM and you will find the train becomes empty at katpadi junction.

Not exactly correct. We can agree that Vellore to Chennai does not need metro. But it needs frequent commuter train.

06:00, 06:30, 07:00, 07:30, 08:00, 09:00, 10:00, 12:00, 14:00, 16:00, 16:30, 17:00, 17:30 18:00, 19:00, 20:00 - 16 service per day in one direction with 2.3hrs running time from Vellore Cantonment to Central will be sure hit one.

Existing line b/w Arrakonam to Katpadi could be quadrapled and Katpadi-Vellore cant. line could be doubled.

Despite living in Vellore I didn't know this! The Commute must take 2 Hours I'm guessing?

murlee
August 18th, 2010, 10:55 PM
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Chennai/article580776.ece


The Chennai Metro Rail project is all set to be extended up to Tiruvottiyur in north Chennai. The extension, estimated to cost Rs.2,200 crore, will take Corridor-I of the Metro Rail (Chennai Airport-Washermenpet) a further nine km. Seven new Metro stations would come up in the extended stretch.

A draft detailed project report (DPR), prepared by the Delhi Metro Rail Corporation (DMRC), cited the extension to be “technically feasible” based on a traffic pattern study. Based on the report, a high-powered committee, chaired by the Chief Secretary, has given an in principle approval. The final decision rests with the State Cabinet. The proposal will then move on to the Ministry of Urban Development, which is a funding partner.

Senior officials of the State government said that the project is definitely going through and only “the modalities of relocating the sewer lines, TNEB installations and water supply lines have to be worked out”.

According to the DPR, the proposed alignment will have stations in Korukkupet, Tondiarpet, Toll Gate, Thangal, Gowri Ashram, Tiruvottiyur and Wimco Nagar.

The corridor runs up to Wimco Nagar, which is about half a kilometre from Tiruvottiyur, to provide a linkage with the Chennai Central – Gummidipoondi suburban section of the Southern Railway.

Integration is also planned at the proposed Toll Gate and the Tiruvottiyur Metro stations with the existing bus depots.

A two-level station design has been proposed in both the elevated and underground sections. While one level will serve as the station platform, the open space available in the other level will be used to develop ‘traffic integration areas'.

The segment from Washermenpet to Korukkupet will be underground and beyond that the Metro will continue as an elevated corridor. Of the nine kilometres, 2.3 km will be underground and 6.6 km elevated.

The alignment, for the most part, runs along the median of Tiruvottiyur High Road.

Since the width of the road is as less as 11 metres at some locations and it has many sharp curves, there is going to be a “degree of land acquisition impact”, said an official.

The two Metro corridors, Corridor-I (Chennai Airport to Wimco Nagar via Chennai Central) and Corridor-II (St.Thomas Mount to Chennai Central), are expected to cater to 13 lakh commuters a day by 2026.


Seven new Metro stations would come up in the extended stretch.

vivekajithfan
August 19th, 2010, 03:34 AM
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Chennai/article580776.ece


The Chennai Metro Rail project is all set to be extended up to Tiruvottiyur in north Chennai. The extension, estimated to cost Rs.2,200 crore, will take Corridor-I of the Metro Rail (Chennai Airport-Washermenpet) a further nine km. Seven new Metro stations would come up in the extended stretch.

A draft detailed project report (DPR), prepared by the Delhi Metro Rail Corporation (DMRC), cited the extension to be “technically feasible” based on a traffic pattern study. Based on the report, a high-powered committee, chaired by the Chief Secretary, has given an in principle approval. The final decision rests with the State Cabinet. The proposal will then move on to the Ministry of Urban Development, which is a funding partner.

Senior officials of the State government said that the project is definitely going through and only “the modalities of relocating the sewer lines, TNEB installations and water supply lines have to be worked out”.

According to the DPR, the proposed alignment will have stations in Korukkupet, Tondiarpet, Toll Gate, Thangal, Gowri Ashram, Tiruvottiyur and Wimco Nagar.

The corridor runs up to Wimco Nagar, which is about half a kilometre from Tiruvottiyur, to provide a linkage with the Chennai Central – Gummidipoondi suburban section of the Southern Railway.

Integration is also planned at the proposed Toll Gate and the Tiruvottiyur Metro stations with the existing bus depots.

A two-level station design has been proposed in both the elevated and underground sections. While one level will serve as the station platform, the open space available in the other level will be used to develop ‘traffic integration areas'.

The segment from Washermenpet to Korukkupet will be underground and beyond that the Metro will continue as an elevated corridor. Of the nine kilometres, 2.3 km will be underground and 6.6 km elevated.

The alignment, for the most part, runs along the median of Tiruvottiyur High Road.

Since the width of the road is as less as 11 metres at some locations and it has many sharp curves, there is going to be a “degree of land acquisition impact”, said an official.

The two Metro corridors, Corridor-I (Chennai Airport to Wimco Nagar via Chennai Central) and Corridor-II (St.Thomas Mount to Chennai Central), are expected to cater to 13 lakh commuters a day by 2026.


Seven new Metro stations would come up in the extended stretch.

:banana::banana::banana:

ChennaiIndian
August 19th, 2010, 03:40 AM
^^ Pic about that from The Hindu

http://www.thehindu.com/multimedia/dynamic/00165/TH19_Metro_eps_165059e.jpg

Arul Murugan
August 19th, 2010, 05:30 AM
Kudos to Thiruvotriyur people. They have done it by continuous demand, agitation, human chain way of protesting.

Happy to see such metro project goes till North Chennai which is considered as the under developed part of Chennai Metropolitan.

:cheers:

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Now MRTS, Metro Corridor 1, MSB-CGL suburban, Metro Corridor 2, MAS-Arrakonan suburban, MAS-Gumidipoondi suburban will make a good network for public transport.

We need a metro corridor from North west to South east to interconnect all these system!

Preferably from Madhavaram to Thiruvanmiyur or Adyar or Mylapore.

darkprinz
August 19th, 2010, 05:56 AM
Kudos to Thiruvotriyur people. They have done it by continuous demand, agitation, human chain way of protesting.

Happy to see such metro project goes till North Chennai which is considered as the under developed part of Chennai Metropolitan.

:cheers:

---------------------------------------------

Now MRTS, Metro Corridor 1, MSB-CGL suburban, Metro Corridor 2, MAS-Arrakonan suburban, MAS-Gumidipoondi suburban will make a good network for public transport.

We need a metro corridor from North west to South east to interconnect all these system!

Preferably from Madhavaram to Thiruvanmiyur or Adyar or Mylapore.

I would like to see East west corridor cutting MRTS , Suburban line , Metro corridors :) i mean they should consider it for phase 3

May be - Oragadam - Sriperumbudur - Poonamalee-Porur(Byepass) - KKnagar - Pillar(Metro) - T.nagar(Suburban)-Teynampet(Metro)-Alwarpet-Mandaveli - Mylapore(Mrts)

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August 19th, 2010, 09:09 AM
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Mad 4 Madras
August 19th, 2010, 09:25 AM
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Chennai/article580776.ece


The Chennai Metro Rail project is all set to be extended up to Tiruvottiyur in north Chennai. The extension, estimated to cost Rs.2,200 crore, will take Corridor-I of the Metro Rail (Chennai Airport-Washermenpet) a further nine km. Seven new Metro stations would come up in the extended stretch.

A draft detailed project report (DPR), prepared by the Delhi Metro Rail Corporation (DMRC), cited the extension to be “technically feasible” based on a traffic pattern study. Based on the report, a high-powered committee, chaired by the Chief Secretary, has given an in principle approval. The final decision rests with the State Cabinet. The proposal will then move on to the Ministry of Urban Development, which is a funding partner.

Senior officials of the State government said that the project is definitely going through and only “the modalities of relocating the sewer lines, TNEB installations and water supply lines have to be worked out”.

According to the DPR, the proposed alignment will have stations in Korukkupet, Tondiarpet, Toll Gate, Thangal, Gowri Ashram, Tiruvottiyur and Wimco Nagar.

The corridor runs up to Wimco Nagar, which is about half a kilometre from Tiruvottiyur, to provide a linkage with the Chennai Central – Gummidipoondi suburban section of the Southern Railway.

Integration is also planned at the proposed Toll Gate and the Tiruvottiyur Metro stations with the existing bus depots.

A two-level station design has been proposed in both the elevated and underground sections. While one level will serve as the station platform, the open space available in the other level will be used to develop ‘traffic integration areas'.

The segment from Washermenpet to Korukkupet will be underground and beyond that the Metro will continue as an elevated corridor. Of the nine kilometres, 2.3 km will be underground and 6.6 km elevated.

The alignment, for the most part, runs along the median of Tiruvottiyur High Road.

Since the width of the road is as less as 11 metres at some locations and it has many sharp curves, there is going to be a “degree of land acquisition impact”, said an official.

The two Metro corridors, Corridor-I (Chennai Airport to Wimco Nagar via Chennai Central) and Corridor-II (St.Thomas Mount to Chennai Central), are expected to cater to 13 lakh commuters a day by 2026.


Seven new Metro stations would come up in the extended stretch.

:banana::banana::banana: But by 2026??? Four times government will change in between. May be 2056 :ohno: :dunno:

murlee
August 19th, 2010, 11:47 AM
i think they gave the year 2026 for 13 lakh passengers using the metro and not for the completion of the project!!

Abhishek901
August 19th, 2010, 07:29 PM
i think they gave the year 2026 for 13 lakh passengers using the metro and not for the completion of the project!!

Yeah. It is normal for them to give traffic projections for next 10 or 20 years to justify the need. It doesn't means that project will be completed by 2026.

think_different
August 20th, 2010, 05:53 AM
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/998/8552010081925.jpg

Kewl Batty
August 20th, 2010, 10:57 PM
Check this (http://chennaimetrorail.gov.in/FAQ_CMRL.pdf) for Chennai Metro FAQs!

bonoslack7
August 21st, 2010, 12:42 AM
Corporation should start electronic tolling of cars once the metro rail project gets completed.

btw Why are tenders separate for elevated and underground stations?

Balah
August 21st, 2010, 04:09 AM
Corporation should start electronic tolling of cars once the metro rail project gets completed.

btw Why are tenders separate for elevated and underground stations?

Electronic tolling of cars..??? I did not understand...

pxp
August 21st, 2010, 05:03 AM
bonoslack7, its a good time you initiated the idea of electronic car toll collection system for chennai once the metro rail is running. People will be moving to public transport.

r3dg33k
August 21st, 2010, 05:52 AM
Check this (http://chennaimetrorail.gov.in/FAQ_CMRL.pdf) for Chennai Metro FAQs!

Thanks for the link Kewl Batty. Learned a lot :)

darkprinz
August 21st, 2010, 06:23 AM
Thanks batty for the link :)




Will there be separate coaches viz. First class/AC/ladies/vendor etc.?

All the metro coaches will be air-conditioned. Having dedicated space for women and or separate coaches for women can be considered. Each four-car rake will be provided with a First Class seating section in the coach closest to the operator’s cab.


Ok all the cars will be air-conditioned .. So i doubt whether vendors will be allowed to take stuffs like fishes etc., and What do they mean by First class seating ???How it differs from other seatings??

vijayvmail
August 21st, 2010, 06:48 AM
The Consolidated Construction Consortium (CCCL) Limited has appointed UK-based Mott Mac-Donald, international engineering consultants, as detailed design and structural engineers for the ten elevated metro stations in Chennai. The company is expected to come out with the designs in six months.
Mott MacDonald has an Indian unit that assists Delhi Metro Rail. The company has also been appointed by Kolkata Metro Rail Corporation Limited as detailed design consultant for six elevated stations on the planned East-West Corridor of Kolkata Metro.
Mott MacDonald is engaged in planning, developing and delivering projects in different sectors like energy, industry, water and environment to transport, buildings, urban infrastructure and social development.
According to a statement from Mott MacDonald, the company’s team of metro professionals will provide all civil, mechanical, electrical and architectural services for the ten elevated metro stations. Mott MacDonald has close to a decade’s experience on metro projects in India and abroad. Mohan Gupta, project director of Mott Mac-Donald said, “Chennai metro is a complex project that requires Mott Mac-Donald to combine its global and local skills in transportation engineering.”
In June 22, CCCL bagged two contracts together worth Rs 234.5 crore to design and build all the ten elevated metro rail stations in the Koyembedu-Alandur stretch of corridor two and the Little Mount-Officers Training Academy stretch of corridor one.
CCCL managing director Sivaramakrishnan said that “the company appointed by us will design the elevated stations in the next six to eight months. Mott MacDonald was selected and appointed by us based on the criteria given to us by Chennai Metro Rail. We will build the stations based on the design submitted by them.”
Mott MacDonald has entered the tender process for design of underground metro and also in checking viaducts within elevated stations in Chennai, said Mohan Gupta.
Mott MacDonald will design the ten stations – Koye\smbedu, CMBT, Arumbakkam, Vadapalani, Ashok Nagar, SIDCO, Alandur, Officers’ Training Academy, Little Mount and Guindy.
The tender bagged by CCCL for design and construction of the stations at Koyambedu, CMBT, Arumbakkam, Vadapalani and Ashok Nagar is worth Rs 139.54 crore while the second tender to design and build stations at Little Mount, Guindy, Alandur, OTA and SIDCO is worth Rs 94.99 crore.

Source: The Times of India, Chennai Edition, dated 21-Aug-10 (http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/Scripting/ArticleWin.asp?From=Archive&Source=Page&Skin=TOINEW&BaseHref=TOICH/2010/08/21&PageLabel=2&EntityId=Ar00201&ViewMode=HTML&GZ=T)

Abhishek901
August 21st, 2010, 09:58 AM
btw Why are tenders separate for elevated and underground stations?

Because building tunnels and viaducts require different competencies.

kathak
August 21st, 2010, 05:42 PM
Hey where is my welcome .I came i saw and i posted too.

Indian Sun
August 21st, 2010, 06:38 PM
^^ Ok. Welcome to SSCi. Have a nice time, and refrain from spamming or provoking our resident clowns.

Kewl Batty
August 21st, 2010, 07:34 PM
^^ Your location is weird...Benne !!Masala Dosa??? Palya? Wats tat? LOL

Mahesh Nanjunda
August 21st, 2010, 07:52 PM
^^ Your location is weird...Benne !!Masala Dosa??? Palya? Wats tat? LOL

Benne masala dosa means butter masala dosa, palya is one of the words which denote area, there are many palyas in Bangalore, example: Goraguntepalya :)

Kewl Batty
August 21st, 2010, 08:09 PM
okio, thanks for the explanation :-)

Balah
August 21st, 2010, 08:14 PM
Thanks batty for the link :)




Will there be separate coaches viz. First class/AC/ladies/vendor etc.?

All the metro coaches will be air-conditioned. Having dedicated space for women and or separate coaches for women can be considered. Each four-car rake will be provided with a First Class seating section in the coach closest to the operator’s cab.


Ok all the cars will be air-conditioned .. So i doubt whether vendors will be allowed to take stuffs like fishes etc., and What do they mean by First class seating ???How it differs from other seatings??

1st class seating will have 2*2 arrangements with a better seating comfort and additional space for luggage. In normal classes only 2 rows of seating (vertically aligned). Though all the coaches will have integrated ACs, the 2nd class cars can handle more standees unlike the 1st class.

SBC-YPR
August 21st, 2010, 10:53 PM
Benne masala dosa means butter masala dosa, palya is one of the words which denote area, there are many palyas in Bangalore, example: Goraguntepalya :)

Continuing OT, just to add a pun-ny interpretation to that: 'palya' could also mean the filling of the Masala Dosa :D

metrorail
August 21st, 2010, 11:10 PM
nice dosa news
but can someone tell me how does private land prices be impacted when the station is going to built right there.
for example, near my home on GST road!!!

Will i be in soup? i was hoping to sell the property at nice moolah but this project i guess will see me walk away poor!!:bash::bash::bash::bash:

Black Knight
August 22nd, 2010, 08:57 AM
nice dosa news
but can someone tell me how does private land prices be impacted when the station is going to built right there.
for example, near my home on GST road!!!

Will i be in soup? i was hoping to sell the property at nice moolah but this project i guess will see me walk away poor!!:bash::bash::bash::bash:

No i am sure this will only shoot up the property price around the area particularly near the station after its been built. As this station would become a imprortant transit point for the area, it would attract both residential and commercial builders to built something here.

Indian Sun
August 22nd, 2010, 10:37 AM
^^ Your location is weird...Benne !!Masala Dosa??? Palya? Wats tat? LOL

Benne masala dosa is the one thing I love in Bangalore :)

ChennaiIndian
August 22nd, 2010, 06:40 PM
^^ Andha vennai masal dosai namma oorlayae kedaikumae pa. Idhukaaga en Blore poneenga? :D

coolmukund
August 23rd, 2010, 05:14 AM
Too much Dosa going on here..... ok so getting back on topic........ totally 31 pillars are up now.... 10 in the SAF games - mmda sector........ 19 in vadapalani.......... 2 in ashok nagar.... and 7 more are in different stages of construction at different sites on the saf to ashok nagar part.......

Arul Murugan
August 23rd, 2010, 05:24 AM
^^ Andha vennai masal dosai namma oorlayae kedaikumae pa. Idhukaaga en Blore poneenga? :D

Mysuru masala dosa, Mysuru rasam and Mysuru pak, Madurai idlli, Dindigul thalapakattu biriyani ellam famous.. athellam brand name. :nuts:

Arul Murugan
August 23rd, 2010, 05:28 AM
Benne masala dosa means butter masala dosa, palya is one of the words which denote area, there are many palyas in Bangalore, example: Goraguntepalya :)

It is Palayam in Tamil. Goripalayam, Arisipalayam, Ammapalayam, Periyapalayam... list is end less.

Ok let us put the thread on track.

Coolmukund, thanks for updates.

Can any one update on the works near Little mount, Guindy and GST road?

r3dg33k
August 23rd, 2010, 05:39 AM
Can any one update on the works near Little mount, Guindy and GST road?

L&T hasn't finished any pillars. But i saw some new barricades near little mount yesterday.

vivekajithfan
August 23rd, 2010, 06:22 AM
Can any one update on the works near Little mount, Guindy and GST road?

L&T has started its Digging process near Olympia tech park in ambal nagar.....Nearly 5 to 6 machines r placed ....And in the entire stretch from ashok pillar to kathipaara barricades r placed...

Anniyan
August 23rd, 2010, 12:38 PM
Mott MacDonald to design Metro stations

Mott Mac will design the ten stations - Koyembedu, CMBT, Arumbakkam, Vadapalani, Ashok Nagar, SIDCO, Alandur, Officers' Training Academy, Little Mount and Guindy.

satchitananda
August 23rd, 2010, 03:01 PM
Mott MacDonald to design Metro stations

Mott Mac will design the ten stations - Koyembedu, CMBT, Arumbakkam, Vadapalani, Ashok Nagar, SIDCO, Alandur, Officers' Training Academy, Little Mount and Guindy.

They are a good firm. Hope they will come with some interesting designs instead of off the shelf ones.

satchitananda
August 23rd, 2010, 03:03 PM
Too much Dosa going on here..... ok so getting back on topic........ totally 31 pillars are up now.... 10 in the SAF games - mmda sector........ 19 in vadapalani.......... 2 in ashok nagar.... and 7 more are in different stages of construction at different sites on the saf to ashok nagar part.......

It is these micro updates that makes the thread live and interesting. Good counting Mukund. Hope your numbers will multiply soon .. ;)

Just curious, have they even laid one of those decks (I mean the horizontal columns) anywhere or they focussing on finishing the pillars first.

Anniyan
August 23rd, 2010, 03:43 PM
They are a good firm. Hope they will come with some interesting designs instead of off the shelf ones.

It depends on what the client wants.

Fusionist
August 23rd, 2010, 03:48 PM
Mott MacDonald to design Metro stations

Mott Mac will design the ten stations - Koyembedu, CMBT, Arumbakkam, Vadapalani, Ashok Nagar, SIDCO, Alandur, Officers' Training Academy, Little Mount and Guindy.

I think they designed six of Delhi metro stations.

vijayvmail
August 23rd, 2010, 04:59 PM
It depends on what the client wants.

I have a feeling that the station designs will be simple and utilitarian. I'm not expecting any fancy designs.

Right from the beginning, Metro rail in Chennai has been pretty low key. Even while they started the actual physical work, there was just a small function with Stalin. No big meeting as for the Expressway work.

We have so far not seen any big Metro branding exercise like the Bangalore Metro, no big announcements by the government.

I think the government is focusing on providing a simple but useful network. Thats all. Let's see how things go.

arshyam
August 23rd, 2010, 05:13 PM
I think the government is focusing on providing a simple but useful network. Thats all. Let's see how things go.

As long as they complete it on schedule and run it properly, that's fine by me. We don't want more MRTS like monster stations nobody dares to step inside of... :)

vijayvmail
August 23rd, 2010, 05:18 PM
As long as they complete it on schedule and run it properly, that's fine by me. We don't want more MRTS like monster stations nobody dares to step inside of... :)

Exactly :)

Even I'm fine with simple utilitarian stations that have the needed facilities and are easy to maintain. Fancy structures may also need more maintenance. We have good experience of the kind of maintenance by our authorities.

Arul Murugan
August 23rd, 2010, 06:25 PM
[QUOTE=vijayvmail;62455565
We have so far not seen any big Metro branding exercise like the Bangalore Metro, no big announcements by the government.
[/QUOTE]

Singara Metro rhythmic like Singara Chennai. :cheers:

But it should not become Zingaro. :lol:

bonoslack7
August 23rd, 2010, 09:25 PM
http://chaisamosa.net/index.php/business-update/201008232367/uk-s-mott-macdonald-to-design-elevated-metro-stations-in-india/menu-id-386html

The Consolidated Construction Consortium (CCCL) Limited has appointed UK-based Mott MacDonald, international engineering consultants, as detailed design and structural engineers for the ten elevated metro stations in Chennai.

The company is expected to come out with the designs in six months.

Mott MacDonald has an Indian unit that assists Delhi Metro Rail. The company has also been appointed by Kolkata Metro Rail Corporation Limited as detailed design consultant for six elevated stations on the planned East-West Corridor of Kolkata Metro.

Mott MacDonald is engaged in planning, developing and delivering projects in different sectors like energy, industry, water and environment to transport, buildings, urban infrastructure and social development. According to a statement from Mott MacDonald, the company's team of metro professionals will provide all civil, mechanical, electrical and architectural services for the ten elevated metro stations. Mott MacDonald has close to a decade's experience on metro projects in India and abroad.

Mohan Gupta, project director of Mott MacDonald said, "Chennai metro is a complex project that requires Mott MacDonald to combine its global and local skills in transportation engineering."

On 22 June, CCCL bagged two contracts together worth Rs 234.5 crore to design and build all the ten elevated metro rail stations in the Koyembedu-Alandur stretch of corridor two and the Little Mount-Officers Training Academy stretch of corridor one.

CCCL managing director Sivaramakrishnan said that "the company appointed by us will design the elevated stations in the next six to eight months. Mott MacDonald was selected and appointed by us based on the criteria given to us by Chennai Metro Rail. We will build the stations based on the design submitted by them."

Mott MacDonald has entered into the tender process for design of underground metro and also in checking viaducts within elevated stations in Chennai, said Mohan Gupta.

Mott MacDonald will design the ten stations Koyembedu, CMBT, Arumbakkam, Vadapalani, Ashok Nagar, SIDCO, Alandur, Officers' Training Academy, Little Mount and Guindy.

The tender bagged by CCCL for design and construction of the stations at Koyembedu, CMBT, Arumbakkam, Vadapalani and Ashok Nagar is worth Rs 139.54 crore while the second tender to design and build stations at Little Mount, Guindy, Alandur, OTA and SIDCO is worth Rs 94.99 crore.

Metro Rail will have two corridors with a combined length of 45 km one from Washermanpet to the airport and the other from Central station to St Thomas Mount.

Balah
August 24th, 2010, 11:31 AM
Singara Metro rhythmic like Singara Chennai. :cheers:

But it should not become Zingaro. :lol:

Chennai Sirapu Rail
Chennai Maanagar Metro (but Madras Maanagar Metro would sound rythmic...)


Ithu epdi iruku :banana::banana:

Balah
August 24th, 2010, 11:37 AM
Guys, any idea on how the metro lines will be called as?

As in London, there are several corridors:

Bakerloo
Piccadilly
Victoria
Jubilee and more... each represents different services and uses different corridor.

Chennai metro plan consists of 2 corridors (as of now) and any idea as how each corridor will be called as?

Arasu
August 24th, 2010, 11:54 AM
Chennai Sirapu Rail
Chennai Maanagar Metro (but Madras Maanagar Metro would sound rythmic...)


Ithu epdi iruku :banana::banana:

Just 'Maanagar Metro' sounds fine.

sshivakumar
August 24th, 2010, 05:53 PM
^^ Also the CMRL should announce a logo competition.. Kolam would have been an obvious choice given the new TNLA building has kolam as the theme, but Bangalore chose it already.

My next choice would be one of the Chennai's iconic building / structure. The first thing that came to my mind is the Napier bridge, I don't have any paint tools with me currently.. will try to draw and post it. I was thinking the arches of the Napier bridge should be diagonally drawn in brush stroke depicting the letter 'M' with a caption 'Connecting Chennai'.

Anniyan
August 24th, 2010, 06:29 PM
Also the CMRL should announce a logo competition...

You can see Chennai metro logo on the top left corner.
http://chennaimetrorail.gov.in/

Anniyan
August 24th, 2010, 06:32 PM
My next choice would be one of the Chennai's iconic building / structure. The first thing that came to my mind is the Napier bridge, I don't have any paint tools with me currently.. will try to draw and post it. I was thinking the arches of the Napier bridge should be diagonally drawn in brush stroke depicting the letter 'M' with a caption 'Connecting Chennai'.

Kolam can be assumed as the metro rail's network.

What napier bridge or other iconic structure has got to do with metro rail system?????

ChennaiIndian
August 24th, 2010, 11:47 PM
Just 'Maanagar Metro' sounds fine.

We can call Chennai's Metro is "Namma Metro"...when we refer to Blore's Metro, we can call it "Avanga Metro" and when they refer to Chennai's metro, they can call it "Avaru Metro". :lol::lol:

pxp
August 25th, 2010, 03:38 AM
chennai indian,

Namma metro , Avanga metro idea super
cant stop :rofl: because of you

Arul Murugan
August 25th, 2010, 05:31 AM
We can call Chennai's Metro is "Namma Metro"...when we refer to Blore's Metro, we can call it "Avanga Metro" and when they refer to Chennai's metro, they can call it "Avaru Metro". :lol::lol:

:rofl:

Managara metro sounds cool. What about "enga metro". :lol:

vijayvmail
August 25th, 2010, 07:57 AM
If the name is going to be from our government, then the word 'Madras' or 'M' will not be there in the name :)

They'll also probably try to replace the word 'Metro' with some Tamil equivalent.

Probably something like 'Chennai Duridha Rayil'. :)

But whatever it is, we should have a strong branding exercise for the Metro. Only then will people feel an attachment to the system. this will make it easier to influence people to keep the system clean.

Else, the tracks will once again become a garbage dump, coaches will be places to scratch your names and the stations will become open toilets and spitting areas.

Samaritan
August 25th, 2010, 10:10 AM
Will it be named "Dravidar rail pokkuvarthu thurai" :lol::lol: even if Jayalalitha comes its name can be changed with ease ;)

Samaritan
August 25th, 2010, 10:11 AM
(Chennai Airport could be only place in this world to provide affordable last mile connectivity)

My thought is that the government should have planned for an integrated transport hub (SETC,MRTS,Metro rail,Subarban rail,Other trains,MTC) just near the chennai airport itself instead of st.thomas mount. This would allow domestic/international passengers reach any parts of the city/state using public transport at an affordable cost. A number of air passengers are arriving from dubai/singapore/srilanka and other parts of india using economy airlines and if they are introduced to this sort of hub they will be more than happy to use it. This would be the first of sorts for any international airport. Forum users ... your comments pls ..

Samaritan
August 25th, 2010, 12:02 PM
Consider these facts in support of the integrated transport hub at chennai airport:

The new integrated terminals will have a passenger traffic of 24 million/year.
Around 10000 employees are expected to work round the clock in the airport.
Atleast 70% of the passengers/employees will use the public transport.
Tamilnadu/Chennai/Temple tourism could be promoted with LCC's and TTDC by introducing affordable packages.
Many more things could be achieved out of this integrated transport hub at chennai airport.
Arrive from anywhere to Depart anywhere with ease and at affordable cost will be right selling caption for any airport in this world to be profitable !

darkprinz
August 25th, 2010, 12:10 PM
^^ Idea sounds really good :) but were is the place to build such a huge facility in airport's vicinity ??

Mad 4 Madras
August 25th, 2010, 12:36 PM
What that has to do with Metro Project Thread? :dunno: Stick to threads please.

Samaritan
August 25th, 2010, 01:06 PM
Best idea would be to extend the existing subway from Tirusulam Station to other side of the GST upto the Metro station coming up inside the airport. This would mean that the Topmost level would be Metro Rail and when the passengers get down from Metro rail to the ground floor they will have access to the MTC bus stops and if they get into the subway equipped with escalators they can easily move to the subarban train stop at triusulam.
I'm talking about a vertical structure with escalators/lifts from the elevated portion of the Metro Rail to the Ground level of the airport and into the subway connecting the Suburban train.

Space should not be constraint for this plan as we already have MTC buses stopping for passengers and plying almost into the airport.

If there are good signage's put up across airport at appropriate points this whole system would be a hit. As everybody would know here it all about smart design in an available space for free and easy flow of passengers.

Feedback Appreciated ! :)

Samaritan
August 25th, 2010, 01:10 PM
What that has to do with Metro Project Thread? :dunno: Stick to threads please.

Dude .. the Metro rail airport station plan should consider this as factor before they finalise their design so that there is smooth and easy flow for passengers .. We are sticking to the thread !:cheers:

darkprinz
August 25th, 2010, 01:37 PM
Samaritan : Lets move this discussion to Chennai Discussion thread .. Dont worry every chennai forumer will peek into that thread :) We shall discuss there

Balah
August 25th, 2010, 03:57 PM
Consider these facts in support of the integrated transport hub at chennai airport:

The new integrated terminals will have a passenger traffic of 24 million/year.
Around 10000 employees are expected to work round the clock in the airport.
Atleast 70% of the passengers/employees will use the public transport.
Tamilnadu/Chennai/Temple tourism could be promoted with LCC's and TTDC by introducing affordable packages.
Many more things could be achieved out of this integrated transport hub at chennai airport.
Arrive from anywhere to Depart anywhere with ease and at affordable cost will be right selling caption for any airport in this world to be profitable !

Samaritan : You seem to be duplicating posts in multiple threads. Request you to refrain doing it. Forumers cannot respond to duplicate posts(though it is good to discuss further) and eventually all your posts will be left unanswered/unattended. Friend, i hope you understand.

SBC-YPR
August 25th, 2010, 07:36 PM
This would mean that the Topmost level would be Metro Rail and when the passengers get down from Metro rail to the ground floor they will have access to the MTC bus stops and if they get into the subway equipped with escalators they can easily move to the subarban train stop at triusulam.
I'm talking about a vertical structure with escalators/lifts from the elevated portion of the Metro Rail to the Ground level of the airport and into the subway connecting the Suburban train.


I just hope the damn thing goes UG from OTA and saves everybody a lot of time and trouble. :bash::bash:

Abhishek901
August 25th, 2010, 08:31 PM
Guys, any idea on how the metro lines will be called as?

As in London, there are several corridors:

Bakerloo
Piccadilly
Victoria
Jubilee and more... each represents different services and uses different corridor.

Chennai metro plan consists of 2 corridors (as of now) and any idea as how each corridor will be called as?

I guess they will denote the line with colour as they do in Delhi and most of other cities around the world.

Samaritan
August 25th, 2010, 09:05 PM
Samaritan : You seem to be duplicating posts in multiple threads. Request you to refrain doing it. Forumers cannot respond to duplicate posts(though it is good to discuss further) and eventually all your posts will be left unanswered/unattended. Friend, i hope you understand.


Balah: Do not crib if you cannot give a genuine feedback. There are a number of unique visitors to each thread in this forum with various perspectives. Hope you understand You are not the only forumer here there 1000's of others in each thread. Also I just don't post some junk(crib) across for time pass .. :cheers:

Balah
August 26th, 2010, 06:44 AM
I guess they will denote the line with colour as they do in Delhi and most of other cities around the world.

hmm... lets wait and witness...

else corridor 1 can be named as CMBT line and corridor 2 can be named as Mount line :-)

Anniyan
August 26th, 2010, 10:36 AM
Vimana nilayam Vannarapetai line
Central rail nilayam Parangimalai line

ChennaiMyCity
August 26th, 2010, 11:48 AM
I guess they will denote the line with colour as they do in Delhi and most of other cities around the world.

Colour ellaam namma oorukku othu varathu......Ethavathu political leader name vechidulaam.
:banana:

dhandapanik
August 26th, 2010, 11:56 AM
Colour ellaam namma oorukku othu varathu......Ethavathu political leader name vechidulaam.
:banana:

If amma comes, then chennai metro might be renamed as "Amma Metro" in lines of "Namma metro" for bangalore.. :lol:

Lines might be named as "Periar line", "MGR Line", "Anna Line". It all depends on the ruling party.

ChennaiMyCity
August 26th, 2010, 12:02 PM
L&T hasn't finished any pillars. But i saw some new barricades near little mount yesterday.

From Kathipara to Saidapet bridge - Barricades are placed by L&T at 3 different place.
1. Just near kathipara on left towards Guindy from Airport
2. After Guindy rail over bridge (near SPIC building)
3. Before Little mount (where the lane divides towards saidapet & Adyar)

These are just barricades. i don't see any activitiy there.

...aditya...
August 26th, 2010, 01:22 PM
Have the rakes for Chennai Metro been unveiled?

Anniyan
August 26th, 2010, 01:30 PM
Funds have not been released this year for the railway network being built in Chennai by Chennai Metro Rail as the State government has not signed the Memorandum of Understanding, the Rajya Sabha was informed on Thursday.

Replying to supplementaries in Question Hour, Minister of State for Urban Development Saugata Roy said Chennai Metro is a special purpose vehicle which is funded by the Tamil Nadu government and the Government of India.

The Union government has allocated Rs. 652 crore for Chennai Metro in 2010-11 but no funds have been released as the MoU has not been signed, he said.

“The Memorandum of Understanding between Tamil Nadu government, the Government of India and Chennai Metro has not yet been signed,” he said.

“We urge the Tamil Nadu government to sign the MoU so that the Government of India can release funds,” he said.

The Union government, he said was committed to paying 20 per cent of the project cost.

During past three years, the Centre has given Rs. 152.79 crore to the project while the State government has contributed Rs. 1,050 crore. This year, the State government is to provide Rs. 600 crore.

“The total funds utilised so far for this project is Rs. 306.24 crore as on July 31, 2010,” he said adding the project is scheduled for completion by 2015.

“In the initial phase, the State government pays more money because land acquisition has to be done which is the job of the State government,” he said.

Anniyan
August 26th, 2010, 01:32 PM
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SBC-YPR
August 26th, 2010, 05:24 PM
If amma comes, then chennai metro might be renamed as "Amma Metro" in lines of "Namma metro" for bangalore.. :lol:

Lines might be named as "Periar line", "MGR Line", "Anna Line". It all depends on the ruling party.

:rofl:

Arul Murugan
August 26th, 2010, 06:37 PM
If amma comes, then chennai metro might be renamed as "Amma Metro" in lines of "Namma metro" for bangalore.. :lol:

Lines might be named as "Periar line", "MGR Line", "Anna Line". It all depends on the ruling party.

:lol:

But your last line may come true one day. :ohno:

Fusionist
August 26th, 2010, 08:06 PM
I think something like 'green line' with a green themed coaches and a 'blue line' with blue themed coaches would be ideal.

RajBang
August 26th, 2010, 09:06 PM
Funds have not been released this year for the railway network being built in Chennai by Chennai Metro Rail as the State government has not signed the Memorandum of Understanding....................

“In the initial phase, the State government pays more money because land acquisition has to be done which is the job of the State government,” he said.


oh this is really a bad news. what is the TN govt doing. why have they still not signed the MOU?? i had a doubt why work other than koyembedu- ashok pillar has not started or getting late. it is bec of this only. still the companiees like l & t has not received the money. why the govt is so lathargic. stalin sir please do something. please dont cheat us.:ohno:

satishanu
August 26th, 2010, 09:13 PM
The State Government is in the process of signing a memorandum of understanding with the Government of India on metro rail project in Chennai City.

Reacting to Union Minister of State for Urban Development Saugata Roy’s statement in Parliament on Thursday, a Metro Rail Company official here said the State Government was in correspondence with the Ministry of Urban Development and had already forwarded a draft MOU for its approval.

Source: http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article596242.ece

dhandapanik
August 27th, 2010, 08:13 AM
I think something like 'green line' with a green themed coaches and a 'blue line' with blue themed coaches would be ideal.

Fusionist,
this may not come true for chennai. We always like to have names in tamil or with leaders names. :nuts:

We got a famous dialogue in Pulikesi film related to this tamil naming. I forgot that line.. :(

Indian Sun
August 27th, 2010, 10:57 AM
^^ :lol: Arignar Anna Pokkuvarathu Paadhai. (AAPP, can be pronounced aappu)

dhandapanik
August 27th, 2010, 11:26 AM
^^ :lol: Arignar Anna Pokkuvarathu Paadhai. (AAPP, can be pronounced aappu)

If Amma comes to power then "AAPU" might be there for Chennai metro, because it was started by DMK. she will start talking about Mono rail.

satchitananda
August 27th, 2010, 03:10 PM
If Amma comes to power then "AAPU" might be there for Chennai metro, because it was started by DMK. she will start talking about Mono rail.

^^
I doubt at this level of activity, the max any party can do is to slow it not revoke.

Fusionist : Thematic lines is not only a great practical idea but also can build sub brands within the metro. But my only thought is it might curtail cross utilisation of coaches. Lets say after we get 6 different routes with the rainbow colors, the coaches cannot be cross deployed if traffic patterns demand slight daily adjustments.. Apart from this, I think it will be great to have themed coaches for each line.

robertashok
August 28th, 2010, 03:26 AM
I am sure they will have to increase the coaches from 4 to 6 within month of launch, i had been travelling from pallavaram to TVS daily for nearly four years in 2001-2004, it was damn crowded. now it is worse i believe.

Balah
August 28th, 2010, 12:20 PM
^^
I doubt at this level of activity, the max any party can do is to slow it not revoke.

Fusionist : Thematic lines is not only a great practical idea but also can build sub brands within the metro. But my only thought is it might curtail cross utilisation of coaches. Lets say after we get 6 different routes with the rainbow colors, the coaches cannot be cross deployed if traffic patterns demand slight daily adjustments.. Apart from this, I think it will be great to have themed coaches for each line.

the corridors can be named after the arterial roads/buildings, which will have 0 dependancy on the rakes if they want to deploy it else where :-) btw, are the coaches(the design) going to be different for each corridor?

pxp
August 28th, 2010, 04:06 PM
http://www.hindu.com/2010/08/28/stories/2010082854270400.htm

Chennai Metro Rail project on schedule, says Mayor
Special Correspondent

CHENNAI: The Chennai Metro Rail project is on schedule to be ready by 2015 with the first four-km stretch expected to be commissioned in 2013, Chennai Mayor M. Subramanian said on Friday.

RajBang
August 28th, 2010, 04:29 PM
i think the work under L & T area is still not started because of non disbursement of funds to L&T from state govt. once they sign the MOU with centre then the money of 650 crores will be released. then the state govt can give it to L&T. Friends anybody please post pics of Metro construction. long time no pic. very eager to see it. thanks in advance.

r3dg33k
August 28th, 2010, 04:43 PM
I saw piling machine inside the L&T barricades near little mount today.

Anniyan
August 28th, 2010, 05:47 PM
i think the work under L & T area is still not started because of non disbursement of funds to L&T from state govt.

Govt wont pay the contractor before they finish their work package.

Arul Murugan
August 28th, 2010, 06:27 PM
Metro works starts at Chinnamalai i.e Little mount.

http://tm.dinakaran.com/pdf/2010/08/28/20100828b_004101005.jpg

DKN

RajBang
August 28th, 2010, 07:18 PM
Govt wont pay the contractor before they finish their work package.

oh is it... i really dont know this. are you sure... can u please tell whats the process.

saurabh85
August 28th, 2010, 08:29 PM
Metro works starts at Chinnamalai i.e Little mount.

http://tm.dinakaran.com/pdf/2010/08/28/20100828b_004101005.jpg

DKN. Looks like they would have to revert to 2 way traffic once the metro is constructed near little mount. Can't expect traffic to merge left and right between the pillars!

Kewl Batty
August 29th, 2010, 12:47 AM
Nope. I dont think the pillars are coming in d middle of the road. they juzz took working space in the middle of the road mabbe to keep cranes and lay portals on either side. Portals are supposed to come there. Tats the actual plan!

arun82
August 29th, 2010, 11:05 AM
Chennai Metro has taken the land behind the asarkana busstop ( The Horse stable) . The horse stable has been cleared. A name board "This land is allocated to Chennai Metro" has been placed there. There is a office in a old container placed in the land. I think they will have the alandur station in that land

arun82
August 29th, 2010, 11:07 AM
Nope. I dont think the pillars are coming in d middle of the road. they juzz took working space in the middle of the road mabbe to keep cranes and lay portals on either side. Portals are supposed to come there. Tats the actual plan!

From Spic to Ashok leyland office the pillars are in the middle of the road. From there it is moving to the left of the road.(near checkers hotel)

saurabh85
August 29th, 2010, 01:57 PM
Pic taken at little mount.....

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4697/img3678y.jpg (http://img521.imageshack.us/i/img3678y.jpg/)

singaporeIndian
August 30th, 2010, 08:59 AM
oh is it... i really dont know this. are you sure... can u please tell whats the process.

Normally, the contractor is paid progressively for the works completed. At the end of the month, the contractor submits a progress claim for the works completed in that particular month. The claim will be verified by the consultant and will be recommended to CMRL for payment. There will be some amount on hold (about 10% I believe) that will be released only after the completion of defect-liability period.

Right now, L&T can claim only for preliminaries (that is mainly for mobilizing, setting up of office, soil investigation and similar works). So, CMRL should not have any cash flow problems at this stage.

singaporeIndian
August 30th, 2010, 09:07 AM
Metro works starts at Chinnamalai i.e Little mount.

http://tm.dinakaran.com/pdf/2010/08/28/20100828b_004101005.jpg

DKN

In Singapore, the contractor should replace every lane closed for construction works with a new lane. We call it lane-to-lane replacement. So, even though there will be inconvenience to residents it is minimal.

I can understand that it may be difficult to follow in Chennai. But, at least the contractor must help to regulate/ alleviate the traffic in some ways. May be CMRL can impose some restrictions. For example, divert heavy vehicles to other stretches and only allow public vehicles/ personal vehicles to use the road during peak hours.

vijayvmail
August 30th, 2010, 11:34 AM
^^

Only now the construction is starting. Already, newspapers are regularly reporting traffic snarls.

When I look at the photos of advances construction stages of Bangalore metro, it is frightening. When we get to that stage, it will become a traffic nightmare.

The govt should mentally prepare ppl to expect more delays and problems during the construction period - maybe project Metro as the 'great' project to look for and that a little hardship now will pay rewards later etc.

More branding for Metro will reduce discontent among people. Else everyone will start raising a hue and cry

KuwarOnline
August 30th, 2010, 12:45 PM
it happens in every city, chennai is not alone to suffer this kind of issue, well its for our better future. :)

satchitananda
August 30th, 2010, 03:06 PM
In Singapore, the contractor should replace every lane closed for construction works with a new lane. We call it lane-to-lane replacement. So, even though there will be inconvenience to residents it is minimal.


To avoid this problem only, we have no lane system.. :ohno:

dr_thapalathy
August 30th, 2010, 05:18 PM
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/797/80981729.jpg
Official Chennai Metro Website (http://chennaimetrorail.gov.in/)

Project Introduction
Phase I with 2 lines totalling 45.1 kms is slated to be completed by 2014. The first section of line 1 between the Airport and Teynampet (14 kms) would be thrown open to commuters around late 2011. In Phase 1, The Chennai Metro Rail Corp is going to procure 42 train sets with a a 4 car configuration.

55% of Phase I will be underground with the rest being elevated. There will be 34 stations with 15 being elevated and the rest 19 underground. The Chennai Central and St. Thomas Mount will serve as interchange stations for both corridors. The metro will be fully integrated with other forms of transportation - the Indian railways, the airport, bus terminal and the suburban mass transit system (MRTS).

Alignment

Line # Route Length (kms) Stations
Line 1 Washermanpet - Chennai Airport 23.1 17
Line 2 Chennai Central - St. Thomas Mount 22 17


The Chennai Metro Corporation is considering to extend line 1 to Tiruvottiyur in Phase I itself. With this 9 km extension, phase I will total 54kms.

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/2465/27ynxo3.jpg


The Deputy CM of Tamil Nadu laid the foundation stone in June 2009-
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Rolling Stock - by Alstom

<not yet revealed>

Station Designs:

St. Thomas Mount - Integrated MRTS and Metro Station

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Chennai International Airport

Option 1
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Option 2
http://i29.tinypic.com/1zvpu69.jpg

Guys, according to the proposed model, MRTS and Metro join at St Thomas Mount. As MRTS is broad gauge and Metro is Standard Gauge, how come the concept of common station is possible???

Guys, if there is any post related to this, please let me know the page no link, as i am posting in this thread for the first time and just visited the first 2 and the last 2 pages.

vijayvmail
August 30th, 2010, 06:26 PM
Guys, according to the proposed model, MRTS and Metro join at St Thomas Mount. As MRTS is broad gauge and Metro is Standard Gauge, how come the concept of common station is possible???

Guys, if there is any post related to this, please let me know the page no link, as i am posting in this thread for the first time and just visited the first 2 and the last 2 pages.

Common station does not mean usage of same tracks. All 3 lines will be there in the same premises.

The platforms for suburban and main lines will be at ground level.
The Metro tracks (std gauge) and its platforms will be in first floor above the suburban lines.
The MRTS tracks (broad gauge) and its platforms will be in the second floor above the metro tracks.

Kathir
August 30th, 2010, 11:01 PM
Friends. Update on section under L&T.
First pillar is shaping up near Ekkatuthangal. Saw the rebars.

BB007
August 31st, 2010, 06:04 AM
they have to connect Anna nagar , villivakam line to thirumanagalm then it will be a huge success.. passengers from Arakonam line can travel to Guindy without going to Central/park.

Murali Bala
August 31st, 2010, 08:25 AM
Chennai Metro - Many more phases to come Thirumangalam to Vilivalkkam and then extend this to Wimco Nagar (thirivottiyur line) to complete the cycle. We need to have Sreedharan (2) Delhi Metro and a strong Govt. with a vision & will to make this happen. At the moment we can dream. (follow the great Abdhul Kalam's idea). I am quite optimistic.

darkprinz
August 31st, 2010, 04:23 PM
east-west line would be better ... :)

altan
August 31st, 2010, 05:35 PM
Common station does not mean usage of same tracks. All 3 lines will be there in the same premises.

The platforms for suburban and main lines will be at ground level.
The Metro tracks (std gauge) and its platforms will be in first floor above the suburban lines.
The MRTS tracks (broad gauge) and its platforms will be in the second floor above the metro tracks.

And if the metro does take over MRTS at some point in the future, then it's even better integration (irrespective of what gauges they use)

pxp
August 31st, 2010, 10:09 PM
east-west line would be better ... :)

Yes, a metro line connecting all the existing lines should be taken up in the next phase.

i remember 'darkprinz' already providing a rough route few posts before. Great work again prinz.

Metro if proposed for the below routes will have good patronage.
St Thomas mt - madipakkam - keelkatalai - Medavakkam - omr - mahab

Arul Murugan
September 1st, 2010, 03:34 AM
Vadapalani signal to get two tier flyover with metro corridor in the 2nd tier and IRR road traffic in 1st tier.

http://dkn.dinakaran.com/pdf/2010/09/01/20100901a_003101006.jpg

DKN

darkprinz
September 1st, 2010, 10:20 AM
Yes, a metro line connecting all the existing lines should be taken up in the next phase.

i remember 'darkprinz' already providing a rough route few posts before. Great work again prinz.

Metro if proposed for the below routes will have good patronage.
St Thomas mt - madipakkam - keelkatalai - Medavakkam - omr - mahab

Ya we have very good rail infra already north south at different places ,..
Next atleast a single central corridor intersecting these lines perpendicularly ....first phase oragadam to mylai thro porur , t.nagar, alwarpet... Then next phase we could make it circular connecting oragadam,sunguvarchathiram,orr, sholz,omr n tidel mrts again .. :) can we put forward our ideas to cmrl... How to do that??

Arul : ... So will metro viaduct in irr rise to 2nd grade height n then again be lowered to first grade in sync with vehicle flyover below?

vijayvmail
September 1st, 2010, 01:02 PM
Friends. Update on section under L&T.
First pillar is shaping up near Ekkatuthangal. Saw the rebars.

Pillars are about to come up near Little mount on GST road also. Saw the steel bar tied up in the shape of a pillar on the One way stretch between Guindy and saidapet bridge.

darkprinz
September 1st, 2010, 01:16 PM
^^ vijay u mean stretch between saidapet church n ashok ley corporate??

ChennaiIndian
September 1st, 2010, 04:09 PM
east-west line would be better ... :)
Naming Metro lines based on color is the norm in many Western countries. :)

goodman
September 1st, 2010, 07:09 PM
Colorlam ethukku.

Simply, We can name the corridor as Asin line, Namitha line and so on. Makkal sandoshama travel pannuvanga. Collection pichukittu pogum.

Or may be Superstar Rajini corridor or ilayathalapathy corridor etc.
Namma makkal Blackla ticket vangi travel pannuvanga.
Metro will break even within a year.

Arunsankarrules
September 1st, 2010, 07:18 PM
In south india, bangalore says that they will start their metro services soon, But the fact is "CHENNAI ALREADY HAS A METRO, I MEAN THE MRTS".
MRTS runs 20 kms elevated from beach to velachery. The metro too is an elevated one. In metro projects, the elevated structure accounts for 70% of the project and it takes a long time. Here in chennai we already have an elevated 20 km track.
If MRTS stations are cleaned with some petty works and other electronic and safety works completed with changes in the rails, we can run the metro coach on the this elevated track. So we literally have a metro, that is the line 1 from beach to velachery. So we the first city to get metro in india probable in the south.

Moreover there is a proposal to join MRTS with the Metro, so what does this mean? So we are proud chennaites.

SBC-YPR
September 1st, 2010, 07:59 PM
Colorlam ethukku.

Simply, We can name the corridor as Asin line, Namitha line and so on. Makkal sandoshama travel pannuvanga. Collection pichukittu pogum.

Or may be Superstar Rajini corridor or ilayathalapathy corridor etc.
Namma makkal Blackla ticket vangi travel pannuvanga.
Metro will break even within a year.

:lol::lol:

pxp
September 2nd, 2010, 01:45 AM
Colorlam ethukku.

Simply, We can name the corridor as Asin line, Namitha line and so on. Makkal sandoshama travel pannuvanga. Collection pichukittu pogum.

Or may be Superstar Rajini corridor or ilayathalapathy corridor etc.
Namma makkal Blackla ticket vangi travel pannuvanga.
Metro will break even within a year.

:rofl: