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Is the BC Place Stadium going to be closed during this refurbishment? The renovations look so extensive.

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Reclaimed my ass... Get the fuck out of SSC this instant.

If there is a proposed soccer configuration for BC Place for the Whitecaps, then what will become of the Whitecaps Waterfront Stadium proposal? We'll have to scrap that new waterfront stadium.

^^ It's not going to change anything with the Waterfront Stadium, just provide a temporary home for the Caps until the miracle finally happens.

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^^ Hi, I hope you will be around longer this time. :)

No he won't. Spreading misinformation, constantly acting as a new user when banned, and having multiple accounts all violate the NASF rules set by Jasonhouse. He's not wanted at SSP nor will he be wanted here as long as I am moderator here.

What was he posting that was so offensive if I may ask? :)

One more question: Are there any more hurdles to be cleared before the renovation project for this stadium begins in a few months?

^^ Money?

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I'm really excited about the multi-level concourse idea (actually it's kinda the least we should expect, right?) BC place is already surrounded by the CBD, yaletown and concord pacific... when these plans are realized, this could literally be the most urban stadium in North America!

My only problem is with the uniform height of all the masts, which kinda works against the domed stadium roof and looks really flat in elevation. Maybe more of the weight of the stadium could have been borne by increasingly taller masts on the sides, with shorter ones at the end, so that we'll see a dome effect from some views and a saddle shape from others.

NDP criticizes B.C. Place roof funding plan


By Kent Spencer, The Province

February 19, 2009

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The provincial government’s plan to fund a $365-million roof for B.C. Place Stadium through condo sales has all the makings of another athletes’ village fiasco, says an NDP critic.

“It’s basically the same business model as the [failed] athletes village: condos paying for a development,” NDP tourism critic Rob Fleming said Thursday. “At a time when there is a saturation in the inventory of condos, placing your business plan on the sale of those is risky."

Funding for the stadium’s new roof appeared as a line item in the 2009-10 provincial budget which was unveiled on Tuesday. The original plan for the new roof, outlined last May, would not have required taxpayers to pick up the tab.

David Podmore, chairman of the B.C. Pavilion Corp., which runs B.C. Place, said then that the project would be funded by selling the rights to build highrise condos around the stadium.

“We are confident, obviously, we can do it with the business that we can generate,” Podmore said.

No official cost was attached to the project at the time, but initial estimates suggested the figure would be in the range of $150 million to $200 million.

Fleming said the public hasn’t been told why the amount has almost doubled. He said the situation was similar to the Olympic Athletes Village situation in Vancouver, where city council has approved borrowing $400 million to cover cost overruns and keep construction from halting. The village was to be paid for through condo sales.

Finance Minister Colin Hansen said the B.C. Place roof and other upgrades to the stadium will be paid for over a three-year period.

“The cost of the new roof is built into the capital plan,” Hansen said. “The cost will be recovered eventually through real-estate sales.”

B.C. Place has been given approval for 1.4 million square feet of development space, of which half would be residential half commercial.

Howard Crosley, B.C. Place general manager, said the government is taking out a “bridge loan” which allows the improvements to go ahead. He has been informed that the residential real estate market is not good at the moment.

“The commercial market isn’t great, either,” Crosley said. “We’re waiting a bit to see how the market improves. If the market is not right, we’ll just hold off until it improves. It just means the loan will be carried further.”

Crosley said he is confident the entire amount will be paid back in the end.

Crosley said the new $365-million cost will include renovated corporate suites and improved seating, disabled access, washrooms and concession stands.

Those improvements will be completed in time for the 2010 Olympics. The stadium will be the site of the opening and closing ceremonies and for nightly victory ceremonies.

The retractable roof is expected to be finished by the summer of 2011.

kspencer@theprovince.com

Considering how high the new retractable roof is compared to the existing one, there should be enough space to build a 3rd tier around the stadium. But we're not doing that. That is technically impossible.

The site in the in between the plaza of nations and the Concord pacific show room NEFC.....
I was wondering if they are going to remove all of that ugly building equipment in time for the olympics.

Also does anyone know if there is going to be landscaping done on all that dirt to the west of the olympic vallage?

Congrats Vancouver!!!

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http://www.vancouvermls2011.com/

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

MAJOR LEAGUE SOCCER AWARDS VANCOUVER 2011 EXPANSION TEAM
League’s 17th Team to Play in Newly-Renovated BC Place

NEW YORK (Wednesday, March 18, 2009) – Vancouver, British Columbia, will be the home of Major League Soccer’s 17th team, MLS Commissioner Don Garber announced today. The Vancouver MLS team will begin play in 2011 at the newly-renovated BC Place Stadium in the city’s downtown entertainment district. The venue will undergo approximately $365 million CDN in improvements before the new MLS team takes to the field, and will have a seamless 20,000-seat soccer-specific configuration.

The Vancouver ownership group consists of Greg Kerfoot, Steve Luczo, Jeff Mallett, and Steve Nash. Kerfoot is the owner of Vancouver Whitecaps FC and former CEO of Crystal Decisions Software. Luczo is president, CEO, and chairman of the board for Seagate Technology and part owner of the National Basketball Association’s Boston Celtics. Mallett is part owner of Major League Baseball’s San Francisco Giants and is the former president and COO of Yahoo! Nash – a guard for the NBAs Phoenix Suns – is a two-time NBA MVP, and along with Mallett, is an investor in Women’s Professional Soccer.

“We are thrilled to welcome Vancouver into Major League Soccer for the 2011 season,” Garber said. “The ownership team of Greg Kerfoot, Steve Luczo, Jeff Mallett, and Steve Nash love the game and represent a new breed of ownership group. Our new Vancouver team also provides an attractive stadium plan and a market with a rich soccer tradition.”

Tomorrow marks the start of the 2009 MLS season and the long-awaited inaugural game for Seattle Sounders FC, who are a geographic rival for Vancouver. More than 32,000 fans will witness the historic match against the New York Red Bulls at 9 p.m. EDT on ESPN2.

Vancouver will have the second MLS team in Canada following the successful launch of Toronto FC in 2007. Toronto FC has sold out every home game, capped season tickets at 16,000, and has a season-ticket waiting list of over 14,000. Vancouver also has a proven track record of supporting soccer. In November 2007, the Whitecaps United Soccer Leagues First Division team played in front of over 48,000 fans at BC Place when they hosted the Los Angeles Galaxy.

”British Columbians are excited about hosting a Major League Soccer team in a newly-renovated BC Place Stadium beginning in 2011,” said Premier Gordon Campbell. “The Vancouver Whitecaps have been a part of our province’s history for more than three decades. As an MLS team, the Whitecaps organization will carry on that incredible tradition, as well as generate economic benefits of up to $25 million each season.”

The renovations to BC Place include new seating, concessions, washrooms, hospitality areas, field surface, improved access for persons with disabilities, the redevelopment of all common spaces, and a significant reduction in the building’s energy consumption. The defining features will include the first centrally-hung electronic scoreboard and retractable roof in MLS - an engineering marvel that uses the same technology found at Commerzbank Arena in Frankfurt, Germany, which is the home of Eintracht Frankfurt of the German Bundesliga.

“This is a great win for the province of British Columbia and the city of Vancouver,” said Mallett. “Major League Soccer is North America’s premier soccer league and offers exceptional skill and entertainment. We have a world-class stadium that will be packed with cheering, singing, and chanting Vancouver supporters.”

Vancouver Whitecaps FC will continue to field a USL-1 team during the 2009 and 2010 seasons. MLS plans to announce another expansion team, its 18th, in the near future.

“The city of Vancouver and the Whitecaps have a rich and storied soccer history, which includes long-standing rivalries with Toronto and Seattle,” said Vancouver Whitecaps FC president Bob Lenarduzzi. “The successful bid for a Major League Soccer franchise offers a whole new level of opportunity for our organization, and by extension, for our city and our province.”

Five thousand $50 deposits for Vancouver Major League Soccer 2011 season tickets go on sale this Saturday, March 21, at 10 a.m. Current Whitecaps ticket holders receive priority purchase rights for 2011 season tickets.

Lol...anybody see the NDP ad at the top of the page?

I voted for the new roof...:bowtie:

My only problem is with the uniform height of all the masts, which kinda works against the domed stadium roof and looks really flat in elevation. Maybe more of the weight of the stadium could have been borne by increasingly taller masts on the sides, with shorter ones at the end, so that we'll see a dome effect from some views and a saddle shape from others.

I totally agree and i like your idea!

Most likely the plans will be difficult to change at this point - oh well. I imagine different mast heights would make the project much more complicated and expensive. Initially i hated the masts, but they're growing on me now that i realize its the cheapest way to get a decent roof. Thank god they didnt tear the place down and sell the land for condos - i wouldve cried.

The BC lions play 18 games a year. 9 home games with max 1 playoff and at the most 2 pre-season games.
To be fair lets say effectively 11 games a year.
How many games will be played when it is raining in Vancouver.
Since most games are in the summer and fall I would have to say on average 3-4.
For conservative calculations lets say 4 rainy days where the roof will be closed.
That leaves us with 7 games a year.
To be optomistic the roof will lead to 10 000 more fans a game on open air nights. That is 70 000 fans for the season. They will be cheaper seats since the lower bowl is already almost sold out.
So 70 000 multiplied by the average ticket=1.4million, divided by 140 million for the roof, equals $140 000 000/$1 400 000= 100 years to generate enough extra business to pay the roof off. Of coarse the above calculation does not include the present value, which would make the time period over 100 years.

Some will say, what about soccer. Well when the decision for the roof was made, the whitecaps were looking to have a waterfront stadium, so the revenue stream from soccer can not be included for argument sake.

The BC lions play 18 games a year. 9 home games with max 1 playoff and at the most 2 pre-season games.
To be fair lets say effectively 11 games a year.
How many games will be played when it is raining in Vancouver.
Since most games are in the summer and fall I would have to say on average 3-4.
For conservative calculations lets say 4 rainy days where the roof will be closed.
That leaves us with 7 games a year.
To be optomistic the roof will lead to 10 000 more fans a game on open air nights. That is 70 000 fans for the season. They will be cheaper seats since the lower bowl is already almost sold out.
So 70 000 multiplied by the average ticket=1.4million, divided by 140 million for the roof, equals $140 000 000/$1 400 000= 100 years to generate enough extra business to pay the roof off. Of coarse the above calculation does not include the present value, which would make the time period over 100 years.

Some will say, what about soccer. Well when the decision for the roof was made, the whitecaps were looking to have a waterfront stadium, so the revenue stream from soccer can not be included for argument sake.

Umm... what about conventions and trade shows? You cant host them in open air stadiums.

Yes they can be hosted open air. But will the home, boat, outdoor, car shows want to chance rain. Also it would not add much value to the events IMO.

I don't mind a big outdoor rock concert, and you never know, with the new stadium, Vancouver might be granted a MLB franchise. :)

I don't mind a big outdoor rock concert, and you never know, with the new stadium, Vancouver might be granted a MLB franchise. :)

I don't think BC Place has great acoustics anyways.

Let's not forget too that even if it's raining and the roof is closed it's still partially an outdoor stadium that will offer lots of movement of fresh air and light. I think some are forgetting that when the roof closes it's still open around the edges. There is the large gap going right around the stadium between the roofing and the stadium ring beam. This could be seen as an attractive selling point to whomever is interested in renting the space. There's the question if this space will be wrapped all the time but air and light are still going to get in.

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That is very cool. Never thought about that feature. Combining weather protection with maximum light and fresh air.

Is the roof element itself going to also be partially translucent?

Just pray that it doesn't snow. The roof can't be closed during snow. It can't cope with the weight.

I think it should stay. BC Place Stadium is like a major landmark for Downtown. Where else can you find a stadium with an inflated dome? And it just looks so damn cool!

They are all over NA.
Here in Indy we just demolished our inflated dome. Most people found it to be an interesting structure of the city's history, but in general, an eyesore.
It was replaced with a classic brick and stone stadium.
This dome isn't unique in the slightest.

Just pray that it doesn't snow. The roof can't be closed during snow. It can't cope with the weight.You've made the calculations?

VANCOUVER — The provincial government’s plan to fund a $365-million roof for BC Place Stadium has stalled and may even be cancelled, Global BC is reporting.

Construction on the downtown Vancouver stadium was expected to start soon after it serves as host for the opening and closing ceremonies of the 2010 Winter Olympics, and was part of a larger overhaul of the facility that was expected to be finished by the summer of 2011.

But a source told Global News on Tuesday that the roof replacement may no longer be a key government priority and it may be forced to pull its funding in the current economic climate. It means the project could face some serious delays or be cancelled altogether, the report said.

The provincial government unveiled plans in May 2008 to replace the fabric cover on the 26-year-old BC Place Stadium with a retractable roof.

Officials began looking at replacing the air-supported roof after a January 2007 storm caused it to collapse like an imploding souffle into the 60,000-seat facility, flooding the field and damaging seats and luxury boxes. It took crews about two weeks to re-inflate the fabric.

“We could do it at a time post-2010 when we think that the budgets will be better,” Premier Gordon Campbell said in May 2008. "We wanted, actually, to take the time to both do it right, to get the best value, have the most competitive bidding process.”

On Tuesday, while the B.C. government wasn’t willing to go as far to say the project is dead, it did concede that there are issues surrounding the bidding process.

“I think (the project) will have been delayed because . . . the bidders have agreed to hold their bids in place longer than anticipated,” B.C. Tourism Minister Kevin Krueger told reporters in Victoria.

Delays to the upgrade could also jeopardize the city’s hope of landing a Major League Soccer franchise. The Vancouver Whitecaps was awarded the league’s second Canadian franchise in March based on a bid that included a refurbished stadium.

“That won’t be a great scenario for us,” Whitecaps president Bob Lenarduzzi said of the possible delays or cancellations. “The fact that it was going to be an open-air stadium was something that was very appealing to the MLS.”

The world-class retractable roof, to be modelled on a design now used in Frankfurt, Germany, is part of an ambitious redevelopment scheme for BC Place and the north shore of False Creek. It was also scheduled undergo a major facelift, starting with renovated corporate suites and improved seating, disabled access, washrooms and concession stands.

The stadium is primarily used for the B.C. Lions football team, as well as for concerts and trade conventions. The football team was not willing to comment on the issue on Tuesday.

PavCo, the provincial Crown corporation that operates the stadium, also did not comment, only saying it is in the final stages of the bidding process.

Global BC

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Source: Global BC/Vancouver Sun

^ great, now what?

Wait. I don't expect this to be a decade delay... but it will be slight 1-2 years?

I think that they promised a new roof regardless, they just haven't guaranteed that it will be retractable. It looks like the project will be delayed but I hope this doesn't mean MLS isn't coming anymore.

Tourism minister vague on future of new BC Place roof

By Jonathan Fowlie and Bruce Constantineau, Vancouver Sun

August 26, 2009 9:55 PMComments (5)


VICTORIA — Plans for a new retractable roof on BC Place Stadium were placed under a cloud of uncertainty Wednesday as Tourism Minister Kevin Krueger refused to confirm the project will proceed as promised.

"It's a complicated world we're in right now. It's a very expensive project — a very large project — and we're in very challenging economic times," Krueger told reporters.

"The business plan is being analysed by Treasury Board, and that isn't complete yet, but I expect to have more definitive answers for you within the next few days," he said.

His comments sent shock waves throughout the political and sporting worlds.

New Democratic Party leader Carole James said she believes the government is getting ready to scrap the project, a decision that could threaten the status of the Major League Soccer franchise recently granted to the Vancouver Whitecaps FC.

"All of the renovations to BC Place were key in Major League Soccer awarding Vancouver an expansion team," MLS senior vice-president Dan Courtemanche said from the league's New York headquarters.

"If things change, we'd have to address that. Clearly it's something that would be addressed by our commissioner and the league's board of governors," Courtemanche said.

He said the league has never withdrawn a franchise once granted, and there's no clear policy for such an event.

The estimated $365-million stadium upgrades, which include the new roof, are supposed to be complete by the spring of 2011, when the Whitecaps are to begin playing in the MLS.

When asked if a new stadium would still proceed and be ready on time, Krueger said only: "I think so."

When asked if that includes a retractable roof, Krueger responded: "The existing roof could be replaced. The retractable roof is certainly preferred by a lot of the people who are engaged in this whole process."

Whitecaps president Bob Lenarduzzi said he had heard no official word that the project is in jeopardy, and that he remained optimistic it will go ahead as planned.

"I'm feeling very confident that at some point we'll get an official announcement that the process is moving forward," he said.

"I would be absolutely shocked if it were any different than that."

Earlier this week, PavCo, the provincial Crown corporation that operates the stadium, said the bidding process for the project had been delayed because of the complexity of the bids.

Warren Buckley, PavCo CEO, added, however, that the delay "has nothing to do with the project and its viability" and that all the funding appeared to be on track.

"I think we're in good shape," Buckley said, adding that workers have already begun pouring cement for a ring beam that will hold the new roof in place.

"We're moving on."

PavCo has said it hopes to recover more than $100 million through the sale and lease of land next to the stadium, which could accommodate a total of 1.4 million square feet of residential and commercial space. It was not clear what effect the recession has had on the viability of that plan.

Government revenues have plummeted recently, and Tuesday's throne speech warned of a need for serious fiscal restraint in almost all areas of government spending.

jfowlie@vancouversun.com





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Northener
August 26, 2009 - 4:41 PM Good for the Liberals. Why spend money that they don't have. I don't give a hoot if it was an election promise. Don't spend the cash if you don't have it. Its not like there is no BC Place. They can still play football and soccer if they choose. Let Whitecaps build their own stadium with their money - not taxpayers money. Alot of folks outside of the centre of the universe (Vancouver) do not even get to enjoy BC Place and yet we pay for it.

Trevor
August 26, 2009 - 2:56 PM So how much of the land around BC Place that they were going to sell to pay for the renovations has Gordo's buddies purchased???

Pathetic
August 26, 2009 - 2:44 PM Typical government. They consider cancelling projects after the election is over.

Hal
August 26, 2009 - 2:28 PM "Tourism Minister vague on future of new BC Place roof." So what else is new? Gormless Gordo and his gungho gang are vague about the future of all British Columbians and even the Province. He's been telling us that the out-of-the-blue HST is going to lead us out of the desert and into the promised land, so why doesn't he listen to his own 'if you build it, they will come' mantra and just construct the dang thing? Unless he's going to P3P it with Kerfoot?

Marshy
August 26, 2009 - 2:10 PM Its no wonder everthing costs so much Governments dither and dather until costs balloon then they built it. Just get on with it

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I'm glad that it is not officially cancelled, so there is hope.

The only upside that I see is that maybe cancellation of this renovation will spur Kerfoot to build that waterfront stadium that we want.

As far as I know, Kerfoot wants to build a water front soccer only stadium, but the Port of Vancouver refuse to sell that piece of land to him. :(

BC Place: Facelift or new stadium?
Provincial government pondering idea of building new stadium and massive downtown redevelopment project with a P3


By Miro Cernetig, Vancouver Sun columnist
August 28, 2009 12:01 AM

VANCOUVER — Faced with having to spend $360 million of taxpayers’ money to put a retractable roof on BC Place Stadium, the Liberal government has begun exploring another option.

Why not throw the massive redevelopment project open to the private sector, using Premier Gordon Campbell’s favourite development model — a private-public partnership deal?

And as the government ponders that so-called P3 possibility, it’s now leading to even larger questions being asked behind closed doors.

Why put a $360-million retractable roof on BC Place Stadium at all?

If the private sector is willing to share the risks in a public-private partnership, why not revisit the idea of building a waterfront soccer stadium, with hotel and convention space? That could revive the dream of billionaire Greg Kerfoot for a waterfront soccer stadium for the Vancouver Whitecaps.

That in turn opens the possibility of using BC Place Stadium, now three decades old, for other events, such as conventions. Or even tearing it down. And that provincial land around the old stadium could be used to build up office, retail and entertainment complexes that could create a brand-new entertainment district in downtown Vancouver.

Nothing is firmed up yet. But what’s being blue-skied here at the top level of the Liberal government could be the largest urban land development project in Vancouver since the buildup of False Creek after Expo 86. It’s also reminiscent of how major stadiums are built and financed in the United States.

And why not?

It may not all pan out, but the thinking is bold. The 2010 Olympics offers another moment, like Expo 86, for Vancouver to transform itself.

After Expo 86, the False Creek lands were built into a residential development that energized the city and helped the city win international recognition. The redevelopment of the underutilized waterfront north of Gastown and land around BC Place would do the same thing.

Such big ideas aren’t without risks, of course. In P3s, the government ultimately backstops the deal if it goes sour. There would have to be some serious modeling here.

But the Liberals believe in P3s, the models used to improve the Sea to Sky Highway to Whistler and the Canada Line connecting Vancouver to Richmond and the international airport.

Moreover, many members of the provincial government would love to keep massive redevelopments such as a retractable roof off the government’s books and out of the hands of its Crown corporations. Many still remember the Vancouver convention centre expansion, which was built by a Crown Corporation and cost almost $900 million, double the original budget. So far, the Campbell government’s P3 projects have come in on budget and on time.

Oddly, the debate about offering the redevelopment of BC Place Stadium and other lands to the private sector has come out of the government’s current budgetary crisis. How, the cabinet asked itself, can the government possibly justify a massive, $360-million splurge on a roof when its revenues are tumbling by the billions, services are being cut and the HST is being leveled on consumers?

That led to the idea of considering BC Place’s new retractable roof as a P3.

In turn, that has led to exploratory discussions whether Kerfoot, the owner of the Whitecaps, or other investors, may be interested in taking a major stake in a major development.

In return, investors would take a share of revenues from the stadium as well as surrounding real estate developments. It’s unclear to what extent some property might be privatized or whether the government would retain shares in some or all of the property.

The provincial government is also hoping that a major corporation may buy the rights to put its name on a completed stadium, whether it be BC Place or a new soccer stadium. Such a branding opportunity could be worth $25 million or more.

This is a huge, still fuzzy idea, of course. But the government believes that a private-sector proposal roughing out what is possible could be sketched out in a matter of weeks or months. Without private-sector proposals for a P3, some key cabinet ministers say the retractable roof for BC Place will have to be delayed or cancelled.

Not everyone loves P3s, of course. But if this idea— or even a part of it — is realized it may be good politics for Premier Gordon Campbell, who is watching his popularity drop like a rock.

First, it would create thousands of jobs. It’s estimated the construction of a retractable roof, for example, would create 1,500 person years of jobs on-site and another 1,500 in spinoffs. The construction of buildings of residential, real estate and office buildings surrounding BC Place is expected to generate 5,500 person years of jobs.

The construction would get underway shortly after the end of the Olympics next winter. That would give a much needed boost to the sagging B.C. economy that would stretch into 2013.

Guess what’s scheduled for then? Yes, the provincial election, in which the premier said Thursday he will be seeking a fourth term.

Will there be private-sector buyers for this idea during the Great Recession? Hard to say.

Recessions do end, though. And with the 2010 Olympics only five months away, there’s one thing for sure. The provincial government has a singular moment to blue-sky this deal for the world to buy.

mcernetig@vancouversun.com
© Copyright © The Vancouver Sun







Before, I was supportive of the new roof for BC Place.

But with technical challenges arising (as BC Place wasn't designed for anything but an inflatable roof like the one it has today requiring additional supports that originally thought) which have rumoured to have increased cost of the new roof far beyond $360-million it simply wouldn't be worth it to spend that money on a old facility.

This new stadium idea sounds fantastic, but I really don't want to see just more condos at where BC Place is today. Rather there should be a focus on entertainment, retail, and office for the site....and perhaps a large landmark that is visible on the skyline just like what the roof of BC Place has provided us for the last three decades.

A new stadium on the waterfront or even a new stadium with a smaller footprint on the BC Place site would be great. (but that would mean $65-million in investments we made to enhance BC Place in time for the Olympics would be lost)

It's a shame they didn't think of any of this way earlier so we could have something better to show the world for 2010.

P3P is the way to go. Let some investors share the risk with taxpayers.

We need a large capacity stadium somewhere downtown, it being the nodal intersection of public transport. The proposed waterfront soccer stadium would not fit the bill for football or other big events. I'm for upgrading to a retractable roof at BC Place, because of the money already invested there and for sentimental reasons, but with investor funds and with sale proceeds of adjacent property, not taxpayer dollars.

At this point I don't care what they do as long as the Caps take to a pitch for 2011....preferably their own stadium on a surface the sport was intended to be played on, grass. It should be some interesting times the next few months while this crap gets sorted out.

Brilliant idea from our government . It would be a HUGE project right after the games and maybe start the next boom.

I heard on the news that the retractable roof has received the go-ahead from the BC government. Can't confirm it for sure though.

Edit: okay I found 2 conflicting news stories, Globe and Mail says that the roof has been approved but CBC says that it is not.

B.C. Place to get retractable roof
Matthew Sekeres
Vancouver — From Wednesday's Globe and Mail Last updated on Thursday, Oct. 08, 2009 02:53AM EDT

B.C. Place Stadium will be fitted with a retractable roof after the conclusion of the 2010 Olympic and Paralympic Games after all, a source with knowledge of the situation told The Globe and Mail.

The provincial government started waffling on the proposed roof project this summer, just before announcing that it would run four consecutive deficits and declaring the financial cupboard “bare.” Kevin Krueger, B.C.'s Minister of Tourism, Culture and the Arts told a commuter newspaper last month that tax dollars would not be used to cover the rising costs of the project, and that the province was looking for private-sector partners to help finance the estimated $300-million project.

The Globe and Mail has learned that both B.C. Lions owner David Braley and Vancouver Canucks chairman Francesco Aquilini have expressed interest in partnering with the province....

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/british-columbia/bc-place-to-get-retractable-roof/article1314612/


BC Place retractable roof proposal still up in air
Last Updated: Wednesday, October 7, 2009 | 8:14 AM PT
CBC News

The provincial government says no decision has been made on the future of a retractable roof for BC Place Stadium, despite a newspaper report saying the project is going ahead immediately after the 2010 Paralympic Games end in March.

According to a story in the Globe and Mail on Wednesday, B.C. Lions owner David Braley and Vancouver Canucks owner Francisco Aquilini have expressed interest in partnering with the province to finance the project.

A spokesperson with the Ministry of Tourism, Culture and the Arts told CBC News on Tuesday evening that a final decision is still about four weeks away. The spokesperson could not say if Braley and Aquilini were involved in any negotiations.

Calls to both the B.C. Lions football team, who play in the stadium and Vancouver Whitecaps soccer team, who are planning to move into the stadium in 2011, were not returned....

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2009/10/07/bc-retractable-roof-bc-place-stadium.html

It would be a great news if its true!

BC Place retractable roof project gets go-ahead

Cost of $458 million to be financed by 40-year government loan to B.C. Pavilion Corp. and sale of development rights of land adjacent to stadium

By Doug Ward and Jonathan Fowlie, Vancouver Sun, October 24, 2009

The B.C. government has given the green light to putting a $458-million retractable roof on BC Place Stadium after the 2010 Olympic Games.

B.C. Pavilion Corp. chairman David Podmore said Friday a fixed-cost contract has been signed with PCL Constructors Canada Inc., and that the cost will be partly offset through the development of land adjacent to the stadium.

The price tag includes construction of a temporary facility, probably at the Pacific National Exhibition in east Vancouver, for the B.C. Lions football team and the Vancouver Whitecaps soccer team until the new stadium is ready in the summer of 2011.

"This building will be ready and shiny and polished up by the Grey Cup in 2011," Podmore said.

The new roof will be the largest cable-supported, fully retractable fabric roof in the world at more than four hectares, government officials said.

The fabric roof will be designed to retract into the centre of the roof opening, where it will be concealed inside a suspended, four-sided electronic video board.

The $458-million cost will be financed through a 40-year loan from the government to the B.C. Pavilion Corp., a.k.a. PavCo.

Podmore said the loan will be covered by shifting $42 million left from the Vancouver Convention Centre construction project to the BC Place Stadium upgrade and through the sale of development rights on the lands at the western edge of the stadium.

Podmore said there is room for 1.4 million square feet of development in the official development plan approved by the City of Vancouver for the BC Place lands. The first section to be developed will have 600,000 square feet of retail, entertainment and office development with a large parking structure, he said.

The land will be leased, not sold, and details on various development projects will be announced in a few weeks, he added.

Podmore said corporate sponsors and advertisers for the refurbished stadium will also be sought. The naming of the stadium after a corporate sponsor could bring in $2 million to $3 million a year.

The B.C. Liberals promised a retractable roof as part of a $365-million revamp after the current Teflon roof on the stadium ripped and collapsed in 2007.

Earlier this month, Tourism and Culture Minister Kevin Krueger said the proposed retractable roof might be too expensive, with a cost at least "substantially higher" than the $365 million then budgeted for the renovation.

But on Friday, despite the considerable price jump, Krueger described the retractable roof as an economic stimulus project that is going to spur recovery in B.C. by creating "3,000 person years of employment."

Asked about the wisdom of spending hundreds of millions on a new roof when Victoria is struggling to maintain spending on essential public services, Krueger said that "the way we pay for our health care, education and social services is by having a robust economy with people working and paying taxes."

Krueger told reporters that the BC Place upgrade is a "wise use of our resources ... that is going to more than pay for itself in the not-too-distant future."

NDP MLA Spencer Herbert said his party supports building the retractable roof, but questioned the $458-million cost when it was originally expected to cost $200 million.

"The price has doubled in a year's time. This shows mismanagement by the B.C. Liberal government."

Herbert also questioned Krueger's claim that taxpayers won't be on the hook, saying that the proposed transfer of development revenue for the roof upgrade is an economic cost to taxpayers who own the land.

Whitecaps president Bob Lenarduzzi appeared with Podmore and Krueger at the unveiling of the new roof project and told reporters, "To suggest that I am absolutely ecstatic with being part of today's announcement is a huge understatement."

The renovation of BC Place Stadium was key to the decision earlier this year by Major League Soccer to award a franchise to Vancouver Whitecaps FC, Lenarduzzi said.

"We now have an opportunity to take take it [soccer] to a new level," he said, adding that city-wide interest in the Whitecaps could return to the heights it enjoyed in the late 1970s and '80s when the team played in the North American Soccer League.

The roof will take about 20 minutes to open or close.

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What I enjoy about living in B.C. is just displayed right there. The creator of the video could have said " Vancouver " many times but stuck to B.C. , people may say its because its called B.C. Place Stadium, but I like to believe its because the the powers that be believe that everyone from all corners of this great province are equally important.

^^ Agreed!

$450-million casino and hotel project to be built beside BC Place


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VANCOUVER -- The B.C. government confirmed all the rumours Friday, announcing a $450-million entertainment complex will be attached to BC Place Stadium, anchored by a 110,000-square-foot, 24-hour casino.

Premier Gordon Campbell made the announcement at a news conference inside the stadium, flanked by Housing Minister Rich Coleman, Tourism Minister Kevin Krueger, BC Pavilion Corporation chairman David Podmore and representatives of Las Vegas-based casino operator Paragon Development Ltd.

PavCo is the Crown corporation that operates BC Place, while Paragon owns the Edgewater Casino at the Plaza of Nations.

"This project will spark significant economic activity," said Campbell, noting that it will create about 8,500 direct and indirect jobs during construction and operations.

"When you take this in concert with the renovation of BC Place, the new retractable roof, this is about $1 billion in construction, economic opportunity and development that will be created in the heart of the east part of downtown Vancouver," he said.

Paragon's $6-million annual lease will help defray the cost of the stadium's $458-million retractable roof, construction on which begins in April, Campbell said.

PavCo confirmed it has signed a 70-year lease with Paragon for the two acres of land immediately west of BC Place.

The casino will have about 1,500 slot machines and 150 tables, and is expected to generate $130 million in annual gambling revenue.

Also on the property will be two internationally branded hotels, one price-conscious and the other of a luxury brand, Paragon president Scott Menke said.

The main building's 25,000-square-foot rooftop will connect the two hotels and provide meeting spaces, a pool area and a "nighttime destination for partying, entertainment and everything else that goes along with it."

The hotels will have five restaurants between them, ranging from "organic homegrown" to "chef signature," Menke said.

The Edgewater Casino will close when the new facility opens, essentially expanding into the new stadium-side location, pending a rezoning application to the city.

Coun. Raymond Louie said many factors will have to be addressed, including an outstanding agreement dating back to when Edgewater opened in 2005.

"Edgewater was to support Planet Bingo in finding a permanent location and stabilizing its revenue stream," Louie said, referring to the charitable Bingo operation on Main Street. "It's important to support all those charities that get their revenue from Planet Bingo."

Planet Bingo contributes to nearly 100 charities, according to its website, including the Canadian Red Cross, the Downtown Eastside Women's Shelter and the Vancouver Rape Relief Society.

Louie said he hopes the larger casino will lead to larger contributions to legacy funding.

"Currently, Edgewater provides us with about $250,000 a year in inner-city funding. I expect that if there's an expansion from its current state into a new facility at BC Place Stadium, they would also contribute more greatly to the community," he said.

Coun. Geoff Meggs reiterated his warning that a heated public debate will likely ensue.

"In my experience, debate about casino development is always controversial," Meggs said, although he acknowledged he has received no complaints about the Edgewater Casino.

Construction is expected to begin in early 2011 and be completed in mid-2013.

Neighbourhood residents had mixed reactions.

"It's going to get really busy around here," Paul Gill said. "There are going to be a lot of people running around, possibly drunk people or whatnot."

Angela Stevenson called the project idea "gross," adding she will likely move out of the downtown core when it materializes.

"The things I love about downtown are that it's close to the water and Stanley Park," Stevenson said. "I love being outside, being close to the water and hiking. I really find casinos depressing and sad."

Andrea Toyad, who recently moved into the area, was open to the idea.

"It will increase the price of my property and this area won't be as dead," Toyad said. "At night, this place gets a bit more dead than it does on Robson Street."

BC Place is home to the BC Lions, regularly hosts Grey Cup games and, starting next year, will welcome Vancouver's Major League Soccer franchise.

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Looks good ... anything to keep the renovations financially viable, I suppose.

It looks hideous. The massing is completely unimaginative... 2 fat rectangle towers on another rectangle, brilliant. The big box podium is one round of value-engineering away from looking just that. I have no interest in wasting that site on an inward looking podium with no exterior glazing that looks like a parking garage. It also should have been broken up mid-block to allow some kind of atrium/concourse connection to the statium. They could easily fit 3 or 4 taller, slender towers on the site. The crumpled paper roof canopy on the towers are dated and gimmicky.

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Thought I'd just post this in here. The temp stadium at Empire is coming along.

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^ so what does that have to do with the topic?

^ so what does that have to do with the topic?

Well, the thread topic is "BC Place Renovations" and since the Lions won't be able to play in a stadium that's being renovated, they need an alternate stadium to play in; hence his pictures, and the thread relevance. :)

Thought I'd just post this in here. The temp stadium at Empire is coming along.Those posts holding the roof up remind me of the old Empire days...

Thought I'd just post this in here. The temp stadium at Empire is coming along.

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They weren't kidding when they said they were building a temporary stadium. This is the definition of a temporary structure :lol:

But yes, it will be interesting to see the Lions play there. I wonder whether attendance will be higher or lower.

They weren't kidding when they said they were building a temporary stadium. This is the definition of a temporary structure :lol:

But yes, it will be interesting to see the Lions play there. I wonder whether attendance will be higher or lower.Well, it can't possibly be higher if the capacity is 27,500.

the BC lions can actually sell out now! lol

^ so what does that have to do with the topic?

BC Place related 'cause the Caps and Lions will be playing at Empire in the interim as noted by Sonrise, there's no specific Empire thread and it may be a waste starting one/continuing one unless you're at the busy SSP, and it's a bloody ghost town in the BC forums now any way so who gives a toss?

Those posts holding the roof up remind me of the old Empire days...

It sure does! I remember when I first came here and seeing a match at Empire and having the posts in the way, while sitting on those wood benches.

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BC Place dome deflated to make way for new roof

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VANCOUVER - The iconic BC Place dome that many people, over its 27 years, have likened to a giant marshmallow is no longer visible on the Vancouver skyline.

It was deflated Tuesday morning to make way for construction on the new $458-million retractable roof.

At 11 a.m., B.C.'s Tourism Minister, Kevin Krueger, and B.C. Pavilion Corporation's chair, David Podmore, turned off the 16 giant fans that keep the roof inflated.

"The deflation took 48 minutes flat," said Trevor Pancoust, a spokesman for BC Place.

VANCOUVER - The iconic BC Place dome that many people, over its 27 years, have likened to a giant marshmallow is no longer visible on the Vancouver skyline.

It was deflated Tuesday morning to make way for construction on the new $458-million retractable roof.

At 11 a.m., B.C.'s Tourism Minister, Kevin Krueger, and B.C. Pavilion Corporation's chair, David Podmore, turned off the 16 giant fans that keep the roof inflated.

"The deflation took 48 minutes flat," said Trevor Pancoust, a spokesman for BC Place.

By noon, crews had begun removing the old roof and construction on the new roof had officially got underway. Burnaby-based Pacific Blasting and Demolition was hired to demolish the roof structure and remove the fabric.

"The dome of BC Place has been a landmark of the Vancouver skyline for a generation, and today we begin work on the new roof and a new look for Vancouver and the province," said Krueger in a news release.

"This project is an economic driver, creating thousands of jobs and it will create a new BC Place when complete."

Almost 100 per cent of the roof's 219 metres of Teflon and inner liner will be recycled. It will be sent to a Minneapolis firm called Billboard Tarp Warehouse that specializes in recycling that type of fabric into movie screens, billboards and handbags.

About three per cent of the fabric will be set aside for use as a permanent ice-rink liner in the community of Celista, northeast of Kamloops.


The steel cable system that has held the roof in shape since 1982 will be sent to ABC Recycling in Surrey for recycling.

The replacement roof, when complete, will be the largest retractable fabric roof in the world, at more than four hectares. Officials say the roof will open or close within 20 minutes.

The last time the roof was deflated was in January 2007, when a tear in the Teflon-coated fabric caused the roof to collapse.

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I'm sad to see this landmark roof go but excited to see the new roof get in!

I ran to my window after seeing those pictures, yeah it's weird to see it gone.

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Back in the day, cities were just fine - colourwise - without even trying. Brick was brick, copper was copper, steel was red. Now there's purpose-built injections of colour like Colours, Spectrum, TV towers, etc, and we have to fluff up stadiums like pride parade floats...

Really hope the masts will be white.

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a look at BC Place Stadium with the top down. New roof to be installed by Summer 2011.

Nice view of topless BC Place

A massive mobile crane dominates the site's interior; it will hoist large sections of the roof to the structure's highest points.


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The New BC Place on Google Earth


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^^so how many of those poles are up now?

maybe about 10?


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Funny story
i was standing with a few friends as a man walked up to the model of the bc place at the pne
he said: so how much is this gonna cost, the info man said: 500million, the man said: oh GOD! WAT A WASTE! JUST LIKE THE OLYMPICS!! then he walked away
i said: so you have to deal with people like this all day :lol:

^^ What that guy doesn't understand is if we delay the project, it would have been double the cost in the next 10 years.



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Those huge antenna things with the added temporary bracing makes BC Place look way smaller than before.

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The new roof will look terrific as part of the Vancouver skyline. The previous bubble roof was alright but it was far too generic ... looked exactly the same as the one in Tokyo, Minneapolis, Indianapolis etc.

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This seriously cost $500? They should have just put that money towards something new.

I think it cost a bit more than that.

This seriously cost $500? They should have just put that money towards something new.

The cost of all renovations will add to $563 million ($450 million is related to the retractable roof). That's not that expensive considering that the New Yankee Stadium is $1.5 billion. A generic off-the-shelf type stadium like the one in the outskirts of Phoenix can cost less than our new roof, but those really can't be compared to a custom modification of an existing stadium in a tight urban location, especially in Vancouver where everything including labour costs more.

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Great shot, for some reason, B.C. Place looks closer to the water with out the big fluffy pillow. I dont understand that,maybe its an optical illusion that almost seems to open up the back drop more then before.

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The renovation is going on so fast , it's gonna be so cool for the already cool City of Vancouver . Is it the new home of the Lions (CFL) or the Whitecaps (Soccer team) ? if anyone can tell pls !

Is it the new home of the Lions (CFL) or the Whitecaps (Soccer team) ? if anyone can tell pls !

Yes, its going to be the new home of both teams! :)

Thanks YF , it's amazing ...so they are ready for The Whitecaps first Game of joining the MLS in 2011 , really fantastic !

The stadium wont be ready for the start of the MLS season, so the Whitecaps will start in empire field!

People have been saying that both the Whitecaps and the Lions might end up playing the majority of their respective seasons out on Empire Field but I don't know how reliable they are. Personally I have yet to see a solid estimate of when the project is supposed to be finished so I guess we'll have to play the good old waiting game.

The renovation will be definitely finished on schedule but some of the Caps and Lions games might need to be playing at the Empire Stadium in 2011




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The renovation will be definitely finished on schedule but some of the Caps and Lions games might need to be playing at the Empire Stadium in 2011I thought it was most of the games will be played at Empire in 2011. Isn't the finish date in the fall sometime?

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I thought it was most of the games will be played at Empire in 2011. Isn't the finish date in the fall sometime?

I'm not sure, you could be right!

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All 36 supporting masts now hoisted for the new retractable roof at BC Place Stadium

Each mast is 50 metres long and weighs about 240 tonnes. All were assembled inside the stadium and then lifted into position by a crane over the past few months. The last mast went up this week.




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Last beam installation and start of RK8500 crane dismantling.
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And dismantling continuation :
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great video clips, thanks for sharing! :cheers:

Dismantling: part III :)
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cool, thanks again! :)

Why they disassembled crawler tracks ?

It is interesting where is next job place for RK8500?

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Why they disassembled crawler tracks ?

I supposed its for maintenance purpose.

New crane parts?

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It must be the lack of scale but the interior of BC Place certainly seems very intimate. Kind of surprising considering that it houses a Canadian football field. How much space is there on the sidelines? Not a whole lot I'd imagine.

It must be the lack of scale but the interior of BC Place certainly seems very intimate. Kind of surprising considering that it houses a Canadian football field. How much space is there on the sidelines? Not a whole lot I'd imagine.If you look at the construction workers in the first pic, and imagine running across... Also, I'm not sure how many CFL stadiums have running tracks, but any that do would be a fair bit larger in area.

Thanks for posting the videos.

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BC Place renovation to be done by Sept. 30


BY BRUCE CONSTANTINEAU, VANCOUVER SUN FEBRUARY 7, 2011 5:30 PM

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VANCOUVER - Expect a B.C. Lions or Vancouver Whitecaps game to open up a flashy new BC Place Stadium around Sept. 30.

PavCo announced Monday the stadium's $563-million renovation project — which includes a $240-million retractable roof — will be finished by Friday, Sept. 30 and the two teams have already held a coin toss to see who plays there first.

The winner won't be known until the Canadian Football League and Major League Soccer release their 2011 schedules. MLS plans to release its schedule on Thursday.

A likely scenario would see both clubs play in BC Place that weekend.

"You could have a sporting event there on the 30th or the first or second of October," PavCo chair David Podmore said Monday, when asked if a sporting event would open the new stadium on Sept. 30.

The Whitecaps beat the Seattle Sounders 2-1 in the first event held at BC Place on June 20, 1983.

Whitecaps president Bob Lenarduzzi said the club is excited to finally have a "definitive" opening date for a renovated BC Place.

If the Sept. 30 opening date holds, the Whitecaps and Lions would play at the temporary Empire Field stadium before switching to BC Place for the final three or four games of their regular-season schedules.

The 2011 Grey Cup will be held at BC Place on Nov. 27.

Podmore said PavCo originally planned to wait until March before announcing a completion date but construction has progressed well recently, giving officials confidence about the early-fall deadline.

"We had to see the steel in place and the major cable installed before we could give a confident date," he said.

Builders installed the last of 36 steel masts and compression beams a month ago and are now installing a cable-net system to support a new fabric roof.

Podmore noted the Sept. 30 date is still dependent on weather, with high winds being the most likely problem that could force delays.

A PavCo news release said completion could also be affected by "other factors beyond our control" but Podmore would not provide any specific examples.

The labour contract for BC Place workers expires at the end of May but Podmore doubts that would affect stadium construction.

"We've had great cooperation from the union and a good relationship there," he said.

PavCo documents once indicated the stadium would not be substantially completed until Nov. 1, but Podmore stressed those documents are five months old and out of date.

"At that time, we hadn't had the full experience of getting the steel in place so we were giving ourselves lots of room in the event we had difficulty with the erection of steel or incidents of weather that delayed construction," he said. "We're past that."

Podmore expects PavCo to complete a naming rights deal for the new stadium within six to eight weeks. It wants a $50-million deal — about $2 million a year for 25 years — for the rights to put a corporate name on the upgraded facility.

"We've seen great interest and we're now receiving final proposals from interested parties," Podmore said. "You won't be surprised at the names. They're all very appropriate — those that are interested — and they would meet with very strong public acceptance."

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MLS schedule comes out tomorrow but we already know that the Lions will open the stadium on Friday 30 Sept, or as it's been suggested.
I'll hope the Caps will be then playing that weekend but the stadium does a great job on removing the grid-iron lines on the FieldTurf from the Fri night. Seattle does a good job on removing the lines at Qwest.

I hope the reno gets people back to the stadium for more than just a few first games. It will be nice seeing BC Place with 55,000 for football again.

The MLS schedule was just released this morning and we will see WFC play the grand re-opening weekend of BC Place on the Sunday 2 October at 1.30pm vs Portland. Oooo....that's going to be a good one!

The MLS schedule was just released this morning and we will see WFC play the grand re-opening weekend of BC Place on the Sunday 2 October at 1.30pm vs Portland. Oooo....that's going to be a good one!I hope they open up the upper deck. I'm not too sure I'm going to like the tarps hung around the stadium. It's like, you know there's an upper deck, and they're trying to hide it as if seeing it detracts from the experience. I kinda want to see the damn roof.

Me too, I originally thought it was a good idea but now I really don't like the tarp thing at all. I'd rather they just do what Qwest does and put dark advertising tarps on upper deck seating and pull them off for bigger matches. At any rate the inner roof tarp should be retracted for big matches against Cascadia clubs and TFC, LA, etc. Well I hope so.

Well hopefully fans in Vancouver buy tickets in droves, necessitating the removal of tarps so that the upper decks could be occupied.

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^^ Great photos! Thanks!

I like all cranes working at BC Place!
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^^ thanks for the great video!




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Crawler crane Senneboger arrived to construction place.

It's Part I from webcam:

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^^ thanks for the update! :cheers:



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Hate for BC Place to fall victim to naming rights while CH Place fell victim to Rogers Communications' antics.

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^^ Thanks for great photos!

Some new tower sections are arriving at stadium... I suppose for central tower dismanting.
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Also I did find on YouTube some great videos from 44outofreach (I think he's iron worker) about precise crane operators work:

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It will be very interesting central tower dismanting:
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^^ what a stunning birds eyes view! Thanks for posting!

Central tower dismantling. Part I

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Nice. Good work. Coming along quite steadily, this project. Can't wait to see the Lions/Whitecaps in action here.

Central tower dismantling. Part II
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^^ Continuation...
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Taken yesterday they show the ribs and louvre supports going in. Plus you can see how much they've lowered the centre tower support in the past week.

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Huge progress in 3 days! Central tower support is coming down very quickly.

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thanks for the photos and vid, guys!

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Just hanging out about 200feet from the playing surface .... Hope they are tied down!!

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^^ Wow! :shocked:

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^^ Thanks for photos!

Crawler crane Sennebogen dismantling:

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Dismantling of Demag CC2400-1 and preparation of roof's tent to lift:

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Thanks for the videos! so this is the first piece of the roof?

What a change, so glad this is being done !

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I wonder if they will ever play a Canucks game in this stadium. It will be pretty cool I reckon. They can keep the roof open if it adds to atmosphere or shut it off if it is raining/snowing so that the rink is not damaged.

nah, the weather in vancouver is too warm to hold a outdoor hockey game. Even if they can manage to make the rink, the ice surface will be crapy.

I don't think the weather will be an issue. I believe last year when they held the game in Pittsburgh, the temperature was about 10 degrees Celsius. The problem in the rink was caused by rain, since the stadium had no roof to speak of. It will be cool to just have that many people come in and watch a hockey game.

Thanks for the videos! so this is the first piece of the roof?

Yeah, piece of roof's internal part.

Next video from webcams contains:
1) Liebherr LR1350 lifts stadium monitors central section.
2) Liebherr LR1300 dismantling.
3) New yellow mobile crane arriving.

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1) Dismantling of Mammoet crawler crane Liebherr LR1350.
2) 2nd part of central tent lifting
Webcams: http://www.earthcam.com/clients/bcplace/
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^^ Wow! Thanks for photos!

Last hours of Liebherr LR1350 crawler crane at stadium:
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Crawler cranes from Mammoet finished their job at stadium.
Departure of last crawler crane from stadium:
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so, is the inside work pretty much all done now?

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It's going to look great. I have to say it's a fairly elaborate structure for a stadium that will only seat 54,500 people. That's only half the capacity of the world's largest stadiums, but I suppose professional sports aren't the big phenomenon in Vancouver like they are in other cities around the world. Maybe this stadium will help change that.

they have been testing the lights...

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Renovated BC Place stadium nears completion


BC Place Stadium will be ready in time for its first public event — the B.C. Lions Sept. 30 game against the Edmonton Eskimos, says David Podmore, chairman of BC Pavilion Corporation. With all the heavy lifting done, workers are now putting the finishing touches to the $563 million makeover and on Wednesday, Podmore hosted a media tour of the facility.

By Gerry Bellett, Vancouver Sun September 8, 2011

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The interior construction cam is not gone for good. It will be repositioned and be back online sometime tomorrow or Saturday...per PAVCO

The interior construction cam is not gone for good. It will be repositioned and be back online sometime tomorrow or Saturday...per PAVCO

any update on this?

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh that's what i call RENOVATION!!!

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^^ Cool! I'll be there this friday when the Lions play their first game under the brand new retractable roof.

the lights were on tonight - looked cool - it was still light out but they are awesome

there is a big tailgate party on friday before the game...

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BC Lions president and CEO Dennis Skulsky during a tour of the renovated BC Place Stadium in Vancouver September 28, 2011.


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Workers put final touches on the big screen during a tour of the renovated BC Place Stadium in Vancouver September 28, 2011.


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Workers place stencils on the turf to paint yardage numbers during a tour of the renovated BC Place Stadium in Vancouver September 28, 2011.


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The video display clock is lowered to the field level for workers to put final touches to it as other install goalposts (left) and paint yardage numbers on the turf (right) during a tour of the renovated BC Place Stadium in Vancouver September 28, 2011.


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Workers stand near an entrance during a tour of the renovated BC Place Stadium in Vancouver September 28, 2011. Revolving doors creating an airlock are needed no more with the new roof.


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source:http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/Place+roof+tops+crown+jewel/5473105/story.html?tab=PHOT

Absolutly fantastic :cheers:

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Lions players take in the spendur of the newly renovated 500 million dollar B.C. Place stadium during their first practice in downtown Vancouver stadium on September 29, 2011


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BC Lions Geroy Simon looks over the new roof and renovations to BC Place

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Paul McCallum practices under the new roof

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BC Lions Travis Lulay (L) and Jarious Jackson (R) along with team mates Akeem Foster (2nd L) and Shawn Gore

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Dancers who will take part in the half time show practice inside the renovated 500 million dollar B.C. Place stadium during their first practice

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Crews work feverishly to install giant cable's which will run over head cameras for enzone coverage, in the newly renovated 500 million dollar B.C. Place stadium during their first practice in downtown Vancouver stadium on September 29, 2011.

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Opening ceremony of revamped B.C. Place


Political figures, sports stars and Vancouver citizens descended upon the recently revamped B.C. Place for the ribbon-cutting ceremony and re-opening festivities, Friday.


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BC Lion Felions greet fans arriving for the opening of the new re-furbished BC Place for the BC Lions vs the Edmonton Eskimosin CFL action in Vancouver on Friday,September 30, 2011.


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BC Lions fans (l-r) Dustin McCloskey, Leslie Grieve, Brandon Kump and Dustin Schafer came all the way from Kelow for the opening of the new re-furbished BC Place for the BC Lions vs the Edmonton Eskimosin CFL action

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Fans arrive for the opening.

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BC Lions Cory Banks, PACCO CEO David Padmore and BC Lions Owner David Braley at the ribbon cutting ceremony

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BC Premier Chrity Clark scans the ticket of Anne and Fred Sharpe from Richmond the first fans to to enter the new re-furbished BC Place

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BC Premier Christy clark and Vancouver Whitecaps and BC Lions players

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BC Premier Christy Clark, BC Lions CEO Dennis Skulsky and CEO of the Whitecaps


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Looks absolutely terrific. I have to say that the interior turned out to be so much better than what I expected. Now the only thing that remains to be seen is how the soccer mode looks like tomorrow, with the first tier roof and the retractable endzone seating.

Also, I think the screen size is just perfect. The ones in Cowboys Stadium are ridiculously oversized to the point of looking gimmicky. The ones in BC Place look big enough to supplement the game day experience without completely stealing the show.

went down around 7:30 just when the game started - the new plaza is really nice and the big screen outside attracts a lot of outside action

apparently the concessions and beer stands were a mess - people had to wait as long as 40 minutes and many waited that long to find out that there were no hot dogs left
some kinks to work out it sounds like

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project365 - Day 291 of 365 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/masey/6298197436/) by rob.masefield (http://www.flickr.com/people/masey/), on Flickr

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BC Place (http://www.flickr.com/photos/carbon_copies/6306253402/) by mee dee mah (http://www.flickr.com/people/carbon_copies/), on Flickr

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Can MLB games be held in this stadium?

^^ It could if vancouver has a team.





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