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Al-Rahman mosque (Early 2008)
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On the Tigris
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it has great potentials it could be very nice if the war ends and something is done about it I can imagine bagdad in 2030 or 2040 it may be one of the best cities in the world

It is SAD how it looks EMPTY :(

It has the Best STATUES and Squares in the Arab World.

Nice pictures thank you, this could become a great city one day I think it has a lot of potential once things settle down:applause:

These are great pictures stormshadow, thanks alot, the pictures are wonder masha'Allah, don't worry smussuw things will get better insha'Allah once things calm down and the americans leave one day lol. These pictures look so green and lush I always thought of baghdad of someting like desert ^^ . Also the mosque under the unfinished Al-Rahman Mosque looks like that main mosque in dubai right smussuw? ^^ and where is the abu hanifa mosque I heard it was destroyed by the americans when they stormed in? StormShadow if you can have pictures of abu hanifa mosque please post it as well.

God I can't wait to visit there!
Those statues are gorgeous... I've never seen any of them!

Nice pictures thank you, this could become a great city one day I think it has a lot of potential once things settle down:applause:

It already is a great city.

Baghdad looks amazing !

Shaheed Monument is amazing
Al-Rahman Mosque is HUGE

Nice pictures, a shame that such a historical city (and country) has to go through something like that.

Do we have any Iraqi forumers?

Adventist Church


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Ctesiphon


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Thanks to all for viewing. It's difficult to locate recent quality images of Baghdad. This set is composed of images dating from 2006-2008. The Al-Rahman Mosque is scheduled to be completed by 2015.

so much potential!! too bad, it's getting wasted ...

My name is Baghdad...

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Thank you for this great thread StormShadow !

so sad, Imagine where Iraq couldve been if it wasn't for 3 long consecutive wars :(

Are there some missing posts or am I imagining things! :dunno:

Oh my god that Al-Rahman mosque is so HUGE!!! I don't understand, aren't there more important infrastructure and housing to build instead of a huge ugly mosque?? Such an ostentatious waste.:ohno:

yep I know infrastruture is more important more green more roads medical hospitals more security there is so much that needs to be done but baghdad could be a great city some day when things get better ( I HOPE IT DOES SOON!) maybe when I am an old man things will settle down LOL I will visit it

Oh my god that Al-Rahman mosque is so HUGE!!! I don't understand, aren't there more important infrastructure and housing to build instead of a huge ugly mosque?? Such an ostentatious waste.:ohno:


it was beening built by saddam before 2003, from the oil for food program :P

Babylon ( reconstituion)

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Sunset

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Tigris

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Aerial View

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it was beening built by saddam before 2003, from the oil for food program :P

wow, I should have known:nuts: How much of the revenue from the oil exports was supposed to go to humanitarian needs?

Palm forest along the Euphrates, north of Baghdad
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I Uploaded the images to another source for our friends who live in the Emirates. =)

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wow those pics of the palm forest are amazing

fantastic pictures.

I must admit that some of the architectural design looks slightly out of the place to me, for example the tomb of the unknown soldier....! but nevertheless looks great!

:eek2::eek2::eek2: that first picture of the palm forest was UNBELIEVABLE!

You should have seen Basra then before the war (when all the palm trees died or were chopped off).

Is Baghdad really Still Second Largest City in the Arab world ???After all who died??? :(

isn´t Cairo the biggest ????

Is Baghdad really Still Second Largest City in the Arab world ???After all who died??? :(

Baghdad is 2nd largest (as stated in the thread title) and yes... that's after taking into account those who died and the millions who became refugees elsewhere..

they used to say that Cairo is the biggest and Baghdad is the 2nd from along time, but I think things change
I do believe that my city (Riyadh) is the biggest, even Egyptians say that their selves
anyway I love smaller cities

...

Cairo - 7,734,334 (2006)
Baghdad - 6.0 million (2006)
Riyadh - 4,700,000 (2007)
Jeddah - 3,400,000 (2007)
Dubai - 1,679,272 (2008)
Damascus - 1,669,000 (2007)
Beirut - 1,250,000 (2007)

It is a shame what they/we have done to this country... :ohno:

...

Cairo - 7,734,334 (2006)
Baghdad - 6.0 million (2006)
Riyadh - 4,700,000 (2007)
Jeddah - 3,400,000 (2007)
Dubai - 1,679,272 (2008)
Damascus - 1,669,000 (2007)
Beirut - 1,250,000 (2007)

Thank you!

^^
Aren't Casablanca and Algiers bigger than Beirut, Damascus or Dubai?

Cairo 17,856,000
Baghdad 8,092,000
Khartoum 4,969,000
Giza 4,779,000
Damascus 4,500,000
Casablanca 4,500,000
Riyadh 4,260,000
Jeddah 3,855,912
Aleppo 3,780,000
Alexandria 3,500,000
Shubra al Khaymah 3,510,000
Algiers 3,518,083
Basra 2,600,000
Kuwait City 2,380,000
Amman 2,125,400
Rabat 2,100,000
Abu Dhabi 1,850,230
Beirut 1,792,111
Sana'a 1,747,627
Mosul 1,739,800
Mogadishu 1,700,000
Tripoli 1,680,000
Port Said 1,500,000
Dubai 1,492,000
Marrakech 1,420,000
Medina 1,300,000
Mecca 1,294,167
Fez 1,200,000

yes this sounds more logic^^

I would say Cairo metro area counts even some 20 million .

^^^

Cairo + Giza = 21 M

Redalinho, that estimate includes the metropolitan area, correct ?


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Shubra al khayma is part of the Cairo Metro area too, so u have Cairo+Giza+Shubra that's too many people

What happened to the Arabic font on the thread title ?

Anyway, here are extra images -

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lovely pictures!!!

parts of baghdad remind me of cairo. those pictures really are beautiful tho!

What's this building for?
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/3379182.jpg

Oh my god that Al-Rahman mosque is so HUGE!!! I don't understand, aren't there more important infrastructure and housing to build instead of a huge ugly mosque?? Such an ostentatious waste.:ohno:

1. It is beautiful, not ugly.
2. Mosque brings tourism, which brings money. And you are supposed to be more advanced but don't know this? :lol:
3. You complain about the MOSQUE but not the ridiculous "victory sword" of Saddam's war crime?

Erm, beauty of that mosque is debatable, to me it looks like cold concrete giant and I highly doubt Iraq will have tourists in next decade or so. And when people are starving a mosque is the last thing needed...

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Palestine Hotel
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^^ Thanks for the pics StormShadow

Does anyone know the name of the big mosque being constructed in that last photo?

I think it's called the Al-Rahman Mosque.

There's a lot of beauty in Baghdad. I hope the mess ends soon.

I hope war will end soon. This place has great potential. Thanks God so much beauty survived war :) And they should replant palm forests around Basra, they look awesome :D

1. It is beautiful, not ugly.
2. Mosque brings tourism, which brings money. And you are supposed to be more advanced but don't know this? :lol:
3. You complain about the MOSQUE but not the ridiculous "victory sword" of Saddam's war crime?

That's your opinion and its subjective. To me and many, many others it is ugly and distasteful. And I never said I was more advanced, where'd you get that from? Because I'm American I must think others are inferior right? But hey you're right about me not noticing the Sadaam victory sword. But that mosque is so huge so how could I not say something. And something tells me that an ugly mosque is not going to bring coachloads of tourists.

Anyway there are other beautiful parts of Baghdad and that's what's most important.

1. It is beautiful, not ugly.
2. Mosque brings tourism, which brings money. And you are supposed to be more advanced but don't know this? :lol:
3. You complain about the MOSQUE but not the ridiculous "victory sword" of Saddam's war crime?

1. I never saw the Rahaman Mosque since it was not built when I left Iraq, I also can't see the photos so I cant judge about whether it's beautiful or ugly.

2. a. If Saddam did one good thing, it would be banning tourism. Tourism is profitable for France, not Iraq. b. The purpose of a mosque is not to look at it's architecture - this point is incorrect.

3. Acutally, I like the swards, they seem nice to me. Plus, a war can not be considered a 'crime' or else every single country should be incriminated - including Iran.

However, I do support the mosque (which was built by Saddam, by the way) for several other reasons; first, people in Iraq actually do go to mosques, so it would be useful; second, the reason it was built was to totally eradicate the horse race track that was built by the British there - good job! although belated; third, a mosque can be much more than just a place to pray, I was told it had a lot of facilities and a big library too.

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Fantastic pictures...thanks!

I would love for there to be an Iraqi Forum...such beauty and nowhere to post it properly!

The Arabic part of the Thread title must have messed up during one of the server updates or something! :)

Ur

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Long live the Great Country of Iraq.

It saddens me the current War On Iraq, as much people dislike Saddam & crimes he had committed.
He was doing a better Job then the result of an Invasion that was not the way forward for this Country.

Lovely Pictures never the less

I't looks much better on this image's than on the tv

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palm tree is awesome:)

^^yeah!!!!:banana:

futures looking bright, finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have been in Baghdad during the war 2003; unfortunately I didn’t have time to see the city it was heavy bombardment during the first days of the war, and it was a huge storm as well all Baghdad sky was red dust, a German from grpop peace told me that this is god’s anger, then its rained, and u can believe it everything get dusty and muddy, the closes the faces.. But that wasn’t a big issue, the problem is nobody knows when a bomb or a missile hit him, we were bombarded in Palestine hotel, most of the foreigners were not allowed to book in any other hotel except Almansour hotel near the information Minster were u can see the famous Alshaf, or palatine hotel. Almansour was partly destroyed, when 3 missiles hit the neighbouring Iraqi TV, it was 4 ock morning and I was there, they burned all the area the Americans were angry coz the Iraqis shoot down some planes and showed the captured pilots on TV. It was a hell, arms tanks were thrown everywhere and u can take what ever u want, and of course the bombs falling from the sky like a rain.

parts of baghdad remind me of cairo. those pictures really are beautiful tho!

What's this building for?
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/3379182.jpg

that's the ministry of water resources located in zayoona one of baghdad most beautiful eastern suburb next to the infamous olympic village which used to be the site for underground prison and the location of late Uday Hussein's offices.

How was Iraq before the war? Was it open to tourists, or was it an unpleasant place to visit?

Iraq wasnt as bad pre 2003, the US made it worst there.

How was Iraq before the war? Was it open to tourists, or was it an unpleasant place to visit?

Iraq was under international sanctions before the war... so there tourism was non existent

Iraq was under international sanctions before the war... so there tourism was non existent

yeah but it was pretty good livin

^^ I hope your being sarcastic :ohno:

Both the city, as his country has a rich history
pity that the current situation ...

Baghdat is green!! Impressed.

Fixed and updated post #1, now more updates to come. :cheers:

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my beautiful Baghdad:

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^^ Best city ever :)

Lovely pics!

^^ Best city ever :)


:yes:

Now that I realized, Bagdhad is equal to Cairo!

Now that I realized, Bagdhad is equal to Cairo!

I agree

Oh Baghdad !
wish to visit this glorious city one day .

Does Baghdad have any traditional MIddle Eastern architecture?

Like the Citadel in Cairo or the Old City in Damascus? It looks all pretty modern to me, and Baghdad was one of the centers of the Islamic/Arab wolrd!

There is the abbassid palace and mustansiriya school as well as remnants of city walls and gates

Does Baghdad have any traditional MIddle Eastern architecture?

Like the Citadel in Cairo or the Old City in Damascus? It looks all pretty modern to me, and Baghdad was one of the centers of the Islamic/Arab wolrd!

The Mongol barbarian hordes destroyed everything. There are a few scattered monuments.

That's true, Very little survived from Old Baghdad. We can only imagine the old city from descriptions in old books and poems. photos from early 1900s show some old mosques that were destroyed during the past 100 year as well.

espero conocer juro que si pero sin que haya guerra

The gigant mosque will sure bring many tourists, especialy muslims because it will be the biggest muslim object in the world. And i dont belive they will leave it this "naked", so you cant say it is "ugly", when it is not finished yet, there is no facade.
Are there any rendering of that project, to se interior and exterior ?

Something similar happend to my city, Belgrade. The construction of St Sava`s temple started in 1935, but after many wars we are near completing it. Many tourists are coming, because it is one of the bigest christian orthodox church. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_of_Saint_Sava

Does Baghdad have any traditional MIddle Eastern architecture?

Like the Citadel in Cairo or the Old City in Damascus? It looks all pretty modern to me, and Baghdad was one of the centers of the Islamic/Arab wolrd!

the Mongols whipped out almost everything ( Read : Siege of Baghdad (1258) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad_%281258%29) ) ,
but here's one example that survived the Mongol destruction :

Al Mustansiriyah University , established in 1233 by the Abbasid Caliph Al-Mustansir :

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look at the level of details and perfection in building this school , it's just Amazing ! . I can Imagine now how would the old Baghdad look like if it had survived the Mongol destruction !

great picturess from a great city! this city contains so much history and had been to so much bad times but it always rises from his ash.

Here are more pictures of Baghdad and Iraq.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6m9eW7COsg

^^ did you make this video aakj ?

I love the music !

^^ did you make this video aakj ?

I love the music !


Ya

The video response to it is the same video, but with the shlonek 3eni shlonek song :D

^^ hahah LOOL :lol:

Where can I download the music you used?

Bağdat dünyanın en gizemli yerlerindendir.

Mods, can we please move this thread into the proper "Iraq" sub-sector ? Thanks.

i look forward to visiting again in a few years.

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Beautiful university, was it really a UNIVERSITY, i.e. a place for studying UNIVERSAL science, law, medicine, technology, languages and literature or was it only or mainly religion?
I also read that in the time of Haroon al Rashid Christians and Muslims lived alongside each other in peace in Bagdad and that they even celebrated together religious holidays, that Muslims partied with Christians at Christmas and Christians celebrated Sugar Feast together with Muislims at the end of Ramadan. Pity that that disappeared... or do religions still coexist in peace somewhere in Iraq?

the Mongols whipped out almost everything ( Read : Siege of Baghdad (1258) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad_%281258%29) ) ,
but here's one example that survived the Mongol destruction :

Al Mustansiriyah University , established in 1233 by the Abbasid Caliph Al-Mustansir :

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/9953/96565628lq0.jpg

http://kurdistan4allkurd.jeeran.com/%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AF%D8%B1%D8%B3%D8%A9%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D9%86%D8%B5%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%A9.jpg

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http://z.about.com/d/architecture/1/0/s/H/baghdad-abbassidcastle-grunberg.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9d/Mustansiriya_University_CPT.jpg/450px-Mustansiriya_University_CPT.jpg
High-res (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9d/Mustansiriya_University_CPT.jpg)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/06/Mustansiriya_school_main_entrance.jpg/800px-Mustansiriya_school_main_entrance.jpg
High-res (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/06/Mustansiriya_school_main_entrance.jpg)

look at the level of details and perfection in building this school , it's just Amazing ! . I can Imagine now how would the old Baghdad look like if it had survived the Mongol destruction !

I have a deram to see Mesopotamia in person. The ruins of Babylon, the euphraris and tiger rivers... And Baghdad looks so nice too. What is the situation of the country today? Is it safe to go there? Is it open for the tourism?

recent pics of Baghdad:

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