New York, Paris and London added for comparison.

2005 GDP PPP

Rank City/Urban area Country GDP in US$bn

Above US$bn 1,000

1 Tokyo Japan 1191
2 New York USA 1133

Above US$bn 400

5 Paris France 460
6 London UK 452

Above US$bn 300

7 Osaka/Kobe Japan 341

Above US$bn 200

14 Hong Kong China 244
20 Seoul South Korea 218

Above US$bn 100

32 Shanghai China 139
34 Istanbul Turkey 133
36 Singapore Singapore 129
37 Mumbai India 126
42 Metro Manila Philippines 108

Above US$bn 90

44 Beijing China 99
46 Jakarta Indonesia 98
48 Pusan South Korea 95
49 Kolkata India 94
51 Delhi India 93
52 Tel Aviv-Jaffa Israel 92

Above US$bn 80

55 Bangkok Thailand 89
56 Tehran Iran 88
60 Guangzhou China 84
62 Riyadh Saudi Arabia 80

Above US$bn 70

72 Fukuoka Japan 72

Above US$bn 50

80 Jiddah Saudi Arabia 55
81 Karachi Pakistan 55
82 Dhaka Bangladesh 52

Above US$bn 40

87 Tianjin China 45
88 Bangalore India 45
94 Ankara Turkey 42

Above US$bn 30

104 Wuhan China 38
105 Chennai India 38
106 Ho Chi Min City Vietnam 38
107 Hyderabad India 38
110 Chongqing China 35
113 Taegu South Korea 34
115 Ahmadabad India 32
117 Izmir Turkey 31
119 Pune India 30

Above US$bn 20

122 Lahore Pakistan 28
124 Hanoi Vietnam 28
125 Shenyang China 27
128 Bandung Indonesia 26
131 Surat India 22
132 Baghdad Iraq 22
133 Chengdu China 21
134 Xian China 19

Above US$bn 10

135 Kanpur India 17
136 Yangon Burma 16
137 Chittagong Bangladesh 16
138 Changchun China 15
139 Jaipur India 15
140 Lucknow India 14
143 Pyongyang North Korea 10
144 Faisalabad Pakistan 10

Below US$bn 10

147 Kabul Afghanistan 9

Rank City/Urban area Country Est GDP in 2020 in US$bn Est annual growth 2005-2020

2020 GDP PPP

Above US$bn 1,000

1 Tokyo Japan 1602 2.00%
2 New York USA 1561 2.20%

Above US$bn 500

4 London UK 708 3.00%
6 Paris France 611 1.90%

Above US$bn 400

9 Osaka/Kobe Japan 430 1.60%
14 Hong Kong China 407 3.50%

Above US$bn 300

16 Shanghai China 360 6.50%
17 Seoul South Korea 349 3.20%
24 Mumbai India 300 6.00%

Above US$bn 200

27 Istanbul Turkey 287 5.20%
29 Beijing China 259 6.60%
30 Metro Manila Philippines 257 5.90%
33 Jakarta Indonesia 253 6.50%
34 Delhi India 229 6.20%
36 Guangzhou China 227 6.90%
38 Kolkata India 224 5.90%
40 Singapore Singapore 218 3.60%

Above US$bn 100

46 Bangkok Thailand 180 4.80%
49 Tehran Iran 172 4.50%
50 Riyadh Saudi Arabia 167 5.00%
51 Pusan South Korea 165 3.80%
66 Karachi Pakistan 127 5.80%
67 Dhaka Bangladesh 126 6.10%
74 Tianjin China 112 6.30%
75 Jiddah Saudi Arabia 111 4.80%
76 Bangalore India 110 6.20%

Above US$bn 90

78 Ho Chi Min City Vietnam 98 6.50%
80 Wuhan China 96 6.40%
81 Fukuoka Japan 96 2.00%
83 Hyderabad India 92 6.10%
84 Chennai India 91 6.00%

Above US$bn 80

87 Ankara Turkey 87 5.00%
88 Chongqing China 87 6.30%

Above US$bn 70

94 Ahmadabad India 78 6.20%
97 Pune India 76 6.30%
103 Hanoi Vietnam 73 6.60%

Above US$bn 60

104 Bandung Indonesia 69 6.70%
107 Shenyang China 68 6.30%
109 Lahore Pakistan 67 5.90%
114 Izmir Turkey 62 4.90%

Above US$bn 50

119 Surat India 57 6.50%
123 Chengdu China 51 6.30%

Above US$bn 40

128 Xian China 48 6.40%
130 Taegu South Korea 45 1.90%
132 Changchun China 42 6.90%
133 Kanpur India 41 6.30%

Above US$bn 30

135 Baghdad Iraq 39 4.00%
136 Chittagong Bangladesh 39 6.30%
137 Jaipur India 38 6.40%
139 Lucknow India 35 6.30%
140 Yangon Burma 33 4.80%

Above US$bn 20

143 Faisalabad Pakistan 24 6.00%
145 Kabul Afghanistan 22 6.10%

Above US$bn 10

151 Pyongyang North Korea 13 1.50%

http://www.citymayors.com/statistics/richest-cities-2020.html

KL is not on the list ?? :?

Try this link http://www.pwc.com/uk/eng/ins-sol/publ/ukoutlook/pwc_ukeo-mar07.pdf.

Tell me if you can find it or not.

The list of cities are on Table 3.9.

why is Manila's GDP is very high compare to the country's economy size?

why is Manila's GDP is very high compare to the country's economy size?

Its in PPP and Metro Manila contributes a very large proportion of the national GDP.

The GRDP of Busan is 55 billions, not 95.

Nagoya is 3 times bigger than Fukuoka but it's not on the list.

^ there's several apparent errors in this list. For instance, the GDP of Paris corresponds to the one of the Ile-de-France area (paris city+inner suburbs+outer suburbs = 10 million people) while the GDP of seoul corresponds to the one of the city proper excluding the burbs (10 million people instead of 23). It seems they used "metro area" in some cases and "city limits" in other cases LOL.


Nonetheless, amongst the world's top 20 urban areas, the only major error is with Seoul. It should be ranked second in asia with a GDP at 450-500 billions, not well below at 200-240 billions.

^^ I think so because, in 2005 Bangkok produced GDP (PPP) of about USD 220 billion, which accounts for 44 percent of the country's GDP.

^^ I think so because, in 2005 Bangkok produced GDP (PPP) of about USD 220 billion, which accounts for 44 percent of the country's GDP.

Wow 44%!! Does anyone know what percentage of Philippines GDP is generated by Manila. For Pakistan, Karachi has historically generated between 15-25% of the GDP. Though its mostly been between 20-25% and is currently near 25% now. But Most Karachiites think that the figure is 65% as they confuse it with the tax revenue figure. I blame the Karachi government though. They always seem to quote the 65% figure and make it seem as its the GDP figure. Such retards. So its a reality check for Karachites when they discover the true figure.

^^ I think so because, in 2005 Bangkok produced GDP (PPP) of about USD 220 billion, which accounts for 44 percent of the country's GDP.

The list in this thread is the GDP at nominal exchange rate not at PPP. For thailand, the GDP was 200 billion in 2005 and in metro Bangkok, perhaps around 80-90 billions. The list does not seem to have an error as far as Bangkok is concerned.

32 Shanghai China 139

China GDP (ppp) is above 7 trillion dollars after recent revision. Are you telling me that Shanghai's GDP is less than 2% of national GDP (ppp)? In nominal terms, Shanghai has a share around 5%

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_China_administrative_divisions_by_GDP

Try this link http://www.pwc.com/uk/eng/ins-sol/publ/ukoutlook/pwc_ukeo-mar07.pdf.

Tell me if you can find it or not.

The list of cities are on Table 3.9.

32 Shanghai China 139

China GDP (ppp) is above 7 trillion dollars after recent revision. Are you telling me that Shanghai's GDP is less than 2% of national GDP (ppp)? In nominal terms, Shanghai has a share around 5%

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_China_administrative_divisions_by_GDP

Well the link that I provided was by Price WaterHouse Coopers. And they are quite popular worldwide as they are the world's largest professional services firm. See here: www.pwc.com Is the figure that you've provided for the year 2005, coz thats the year that the report from PwC's gives the data about. Along with the expected GDP by 2020.

^^Good for Manila. Rank 42 at the moment and Rank 30 in the future. Looking at the list Manila is rank 2 in SEA now and Rank 1 in the future..Not bad.

Wow 44%!! Does anyone know what percentage of Philippines GDP is generated by Manila. For Pakistan, Karachi has historically generated between 15-25% of the GDP. Though its mostly been between 20-25% and is currently near 25% now. But Most Karachiites think that the figure is 65% as they confuse it with the tax revenue figure. I blame the Karachi government though. They always seem to quote the 65% figure and make it seem as its the GDP figure. Such retards. So its a reality check for Karachites when they discover the true figure.

i think Manila's GDP accounts for 33-40% of Philippines' GDP.

mmmmmmm this list is very unreliable

i guess Bangkok should be higher than Manila, then include KL in there. and the list is fine.

^^Why? Manila is much bigger than KL and Bangkok, Jakarta probably. Well, I mean, because of its size it has able to account so much percentage of GDP to the country.

This list from PwC is unreliable. How come they use nominal GDP for Bangkok but use GDP in PPP for Metro Manila? GDP in PPP of Bangkok should be about double of that in nominal to around 180 billions. But if looking at GDP of Singapore in the list, it is also nominal. Singapore GDP in PPP should reach 180 billion in 2005?


The list in this thread is the GDP at nominal exchange rate not at PPP. For thailand, the GDP was 200 billion in 2005 and in metro Bangkok, perhaps around 80-90 billions. The list does not seem to have an error as far as Bangkok is concerned.

The list in this thread is the GDP at nominal exchange rate not at PPP. For thailand, the GDP was 200 billion in 2005 and in metro Bangkok, perhaps around 80-90 billions. The list does not seem to have an error as far as Bangkok is concerned.

No, the list stated clearly that it used PPP not nominal, and Bangkok's GDP (PPP) as of 2005 is US$220 billion. The list used nominal instead of (PPP) in Bangkok case which make me wonder why.

Rank City/Urban area Country Est GDP in 2020 in US$bn Est annual growth 2005-2020

2020 GDP PPP

Above US$bn 1,000

1 Tokyo Japan 1602 2.00%
2 New York USA 1561 2.20%

Above US$bn 500

4 London UK 708 3.00%
6 Paris France 611 1.90%

Above US$bn 400

9 Osaka/Kobe Japan 430 1.60%
14 Hong Kong China 407 3.50%

Above US$bn 300

16 Shanghai China 360 6.50%
17 Seoul South Korea 349 3.20%
24 Mumbai India 300 6.00%

Above US$bn 200

27 Istanbul Turkey 287 5.20%
29 Beijing China 259 6.60%
30 Metro Manila Philippines 257 5.90%
33 Jakarta Indonesia 253 6.50%
34 Delhi India 229 6.20%
36 Guangzhou China 227 6.90%
38 Kolkata India 224 5.90%
40 Singapore Singapore 218 3.60%

Above US$bn 100

46 Bangkok Thailand 180 4.80%
49 Tehran Iran 172 4.50%
50 Riyadh Saudi Arabia 167 5.00%
51 Pusan South Korea 165 3.80%
66 Karachi Pakistan 127 5.80%
67 Dhaka Bangladesh 126 6.10%
74 Tianjin China 112 6.30%
75 Jiddah Saudi Arabia 111 4.80%
76 Bangalore India 110 6.20%

Above US$bn 90

78 Ho Chi Min City Vietnam 98 6.50%
80 Wuhan China 96 6.40%
81 Fukuoka Japan 96 2.00%
83 Hyderabad India 92 6.10%
84 Chennai India 91 6.00%

Above US$bn 80

87 Ankara Turkey 87 5.00%
88 Chongqing China 87 6.30%

Above US$bn 70

94 Ahmadabad India 78 6.20%
97 Pune India 76 6.30%
103 Hanoi Vietnam 73 6.60%

Above US$bn 60

104 Bandung Indonesia 69 6.70%
107 Shenyang China 68 6.30%
109 Lahore Pakistan 67 5.90%
114 Izmir Turkey 62 4.90%

Above US$bn 50

119 Surat India 57 6.50%
123 Chengdu China 51 6.30%

Above US$bn 40

128 Xian China 48 6.40%
130 Taegu South Korea 45 1.90%
132 Changchun China 42 6.90%
133 Kanpur India 41 6.30%

Above US$bn 30

135 Baghdad Iraq 39 4.00%
136 Chittagong Bangladesh 39 6.30%
137 Jaipur India 38 6.40%
139 Lucknow India 35 6.30%
140 Yangon Burma 33 4.80%

Above US$bn 20

143 Faisalabad Pakistan 24 6.00%
145 Kabul Afghanistan 22 6.10%

Above US$bn 10

151 Pyongyang North Korea 13 1.50%

http://www.citymayors.com/statistics/richest-cities-2020.html

Bangkok's GDP (PPP) is US$220 billion in 2005. Why it dropped to US$180 billion in 2020? :nuts:

PPP and nominal GDPs are two different things.

Nominal and PPP are different dude
one takes into account of monetary changes eg inflation REAL
one is its nominal value

^^ Yes, I know. However, the list used PPP to every other cities, but only used nominal in Bangkok case. They should also used PPP for Bangkok's GDP too. If you take a look at the list clearly, you will know what I'm talking about.

New York, Paris and London added for comparison.

2005 GDP PPP

Rank City/Urban area Country GDP in US$bn

Above US$bn 1,000

1 Tokyo Japan 1191
2 New York USA 1133

Above US$bn 400

5 Paris France 460
6 London UK 452

Above US$bn 300

7 Osaka/Kobe Japan 341

Above US$bn 200

14 Hong Kong China 244
20 Seoul South Korea 218

Above US$bn 100

32 Shanghai China 139
34 Istanbul Turkey 133
36 Singapore Singapore 129
37 Mumbai India 126
42 Metro Manila Philippines 108

Above US$bn 90

44 Beijing China 99
46 Jakarta Indonesia 98
48 Pusan South Korea 95
49 Kolkata India 94
51 Delhi India 93
52 Tel Aviv-Jaffa Israel 92

Above US$bn 80

55 Bangkok Thailand 89 (this is nominal not PPP)
56 Tehran Iran 88
60 Guangzhou China 84
62 Riyadh Saudi Arabia 80

Above US$bn 70

72 Fukuoka Japan 72

Above US$bn 50

80 Jiddah Saudi Arabia 55
81 Karachi Pakistan 55
82 Dhaka Bangladesh 52

Above US$bn 40

87 Tianjin China 45
88 Bangalore India 45
94 Ankara Turkey 42

Above US$bn 30

104 Wuhan China 38
105 Chennai India 38
106 Ho Chi Min City Vietnam 38
107 Hyderabad India 38
110 Chongqing China 35
113 Taegu South Korea 34
115 Ahmadabad India 32
117 Izmir Turkey 31
119 Pune India 30

Above US$bn 20

122 Lahore Pakistan 28
124 Hanoi Vietnam 28
125 Shenyang China 27
128 Bandung Indonesia 26
131 Surat India 22
132 Baghdad Iraq 22
133 Chengdu China 21
134 Xian China 19

Above US$bn 10

135 Kanpur India 17
136 Yangon Burma 16
137 Chittagong Bangladesh 16
138 Changchun China 15
139 Jaipur India 15
140 Lucknow India 14
143 Pyongyang North Korea 10
144 Faisalabad Pakistan 10

Below US$bn 10

147 Kabul Afghanistan 9

^^ Actually I think that this list uses Nominal GDP figures for Pakistani cities too. As in 2005 the GDP PPP of Pakistan was $384.9 billion (CIA WorldFactbook 2005 est). Karachi contributes 25% of Pakistan's GDP so that way Karachi's GDP PPP should have been US$bn 96 and not US$bn 55. Similarly, Lahore contributes almost 13% (12.75%) of the GDP, so its figure should have been US$ 49bn and not US$bn 28. In the same way, Faisalabad has 4.55% of the economy so its GDP PPP should have been US$bn 17.5 and not just US$bn 10.
2005 GDP PPP

Rank City/Urban area Country GDP in US$bn

Above US$bn 50
81 Karachi Pakistan 55

Above US$bn 20

122 Lahore Pakistan 28

Above US$bn 10
144 Faisalabad Pakistan 10

^^ But the list used PPP for other cities such as Metro Manila. I don't understand why the list used PPP for some cities but used nominal for other cities. Why not used PPP for every cities in the list since it stated on the top that it used PPP?

My very very rough prediction of GDP nominal (not ppp) of Korean cities about 2020.

Assuming that per capital GDP of S. Korea as a whole will reach about 40~45000 USD about 2020,

Seoul proper will be about 400~450 bil USD;
Busan proper about 150 bil USD;
Incheon proper about 120~140 bil USD;
Daegu about 100 bil USD;
Daejeon about 70~80 bil USD;
Gwangju about 60~70 bil USD;
Ulsan about 90~100 bil USD;
Suwon about 80~90 bil USD;
Seongnam about 80~90 bil USD;
Goyang about 70~80 bil USD.

The whole Captial Metropolitan Area (CMA: Seoul+Gyeonggi Prov.+Incheon+Northern Chungcheong Prov.+Western Gangwon Prov.) may form 1 tril by 2020.

Also, Busan and her sister cities will form CMA-like metropolitan area (pop. about 7 milion?) by 2020 and its economy may be as big as 250~300 bil USD.

These are rubbish lists. Did you know using exchange rate GDP, tokyo > new york + chicago + los angeles?
That's why suddenly the anglos start using GDP PPP funny eh?

^^Why? Manila is much bigger than KL and Bangkok, Jakarta probably. Well, I mean, because of its size it has able to account so much percentage of GDP to the country.

It's always confusing when I read about Manila, because it means Manila or Metro Manila? I read in the Wikipedia, the size of Manila City (not Metro Manila) is only about 40 km2. If we talk about Metro Manila, the size is 636 km2..

Jakarta, in the other hand, is about 750 km2, and it is Jakarta City it self. If we talk about Metropolitan Jakarta (known as Jabodetabek or Greater Jakarta), the size is about 7315 km2..

So I think it's definitely clear which city is bigger between Manila and Jakarta hehe.... :)

The person who made that list doesn't even know the difference between PPP and GDP nominal. In SE, Bangkok and Jakarta should be much higher than Metro Manila in terms of GDP nominal figures. PPP figure will always show greater than a normal GDP nominal figure hence Metro Manila, which was calculated as PPP had higher value than Bangkok, which was calculated as GDP nominal.

And Seoul's GDP is ranked 2nd in Asia at the moment. He accounted only the GDP of metro Seoul area. Seoul's GDP has already exceeded $400 billion by the end of 2006. At the end of last year, Korea achieved a little short of $1 trillion in terms of GDP nominal (Hence GDP per capita close to $20,000).

how large are seoul and tokyo

why do they account for 40-50% of the country's total gdp?

btw the list is really weird

shanghai gdp ppp is around 410 (21*20000) something in 2007-8 let alone 320 in 2020

LOL

It's always confusing when I read about Manila, because it means Manila or Metro Manila? I read in the Wikipedia, the size of Manila City (not Metro Manila) is only about 40 km2. If we talk about Metro Manila, the size is 636 km2..

Jakarta, in the other hand, is about 750 km2, and it is Jakarta City it self. If we talk about Metropolitan Jakarta (known as Jabodetabek or Greater Jakarta), the size is about 7315 km2..

So I think it's definitely clear which city is bigger between Manila and Jakarta hehe.... :)

Manila City is the capital of the Philippines... But in international terms, Manila most commonly refers to Metro Manila, which consists of the Manila City plus 16 cities and municipalities... it's also because Metro Manila is an urban agglomeration...

metro manila is the Philippine's National Capital Region... the financial center of the country. meaning the whole or perhaps most economic movements done in this city, in this very only Philippine City. Its not about the size of the the city but the size of GDP per se. Try to look at the lists, there is no other Philippine cities in, just Metro Manila. unlike indonesia, vietnam, etc. Dont worry brothers, its just the city not the whole country.

:)

Metro Manila's numbers are close to accurate and if there is any correction at all, the numbers should be actually higher. Metro Manila ( M.M.) is a political unit created in 1976 and is approx 636 sq. km. and a population of more than 19 million people in 2007. Now, if you count the urban agglomeration that is Greater Metro Manila- the population can reach over 30 million. Compared to the rest of the country, M.M. is the economic powerhouse of the Philippines. This can be attested by having not one but nine solid skylines within the metro area (see the skyline pics). As most Filipinos say, Metro Manila is not the Philippines......but this is an old cliche because Philippines today is a Newly Industrialized Country........

Why are GDP's of Second Cities like Cebu not included in the list?

I guess Cebu City's GDP (excluding Metropolitan Cebu) is $20,000,000.....

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Maybe they're just small enough.

haha everybody was surprised about how big Metro Manila's GDP is.

Its in PPP and Metro Manila contributes a very large proportion of the national GDP.

nope it's not in PPP don't confuse us LOL

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It's always confusing when I read about Manila, because it means Manila or Metro Manila? I read in the Wikipedia, the size of Manila City (not Metro Manila) is only about 40 km2. If we talk about Metro Manila, the size is 636 km2..

Jakarta, in the other hand, is about 750 km2, and it is Jakarta City it self. If we talk about Metropolitan Jakarta (known as Jabodetabek or Greater Jakarta), the size is about 7315 km2..

So I think it's definitely clear which city is bigger between Manila and Jakarta hehe.... :)

yes Jakarta City is bigger than the entire Metro Manila, but Metro Manila has a bigger GDP.

haha i know how confusing it is LOL
it's all because of POLITICS.

As proclaimed by Presidential Decree No. 940, Metro Manila as a whole is the Philippines' seat of government although only the City of Manila is the capital.

Metro Manila will now then be called the National Capital Region or NCR
by essence it is just one big city but Politically they are separated into different cities and municipality.

yes Jakarta City is bigger than the entire Metro Manila, but Metro Manila has a bigger GDP.

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But Indonesia has a bigger GDP than the Philippines...:)

^^

Naturally, because Indonesia has a larger population than the Philippines.............

But Indonesia has a bigger GDP than the Philippines...:)

yes that is a fact! and we are already very well aware of that. :D

Can you guys post the GDP per Capita of your country's capitals?

the Philippines has a very low GDP (nominal) per capita in 2008 = $1,866
but in Metro Manila the GDP (nominal) per capita in 2007 is $10,223 (US) with makati having the biggest share $29,259

It is really a shame that there is a big gap between the urban and rural in the Philippines.
Is it the same with your countries?

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oops my bad.. they are all indeed GDP by PPP
LOL sorry for the confusion..

FYI GDP PPP has a really different computation than the usual GDP NOMINAL figures..
Countries with lower currency values and lower inflation gets a boost with this kind of computation.. so here goes.. i did not do this computation, so.. peace!!!! dont be mad at me just posting it.

http://www.fact-archive.com/encyclopedia/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28PPP%29
in South East Asia
Here are the GDP PPP in 2005 in million US $ by IMF
1. Indonesia 863,654
2. Thailand 559,489
4. Philippines 409,445
3. Malaysia 289,606
6. Vietnam 231,644
5. Singapore 124,001


http://www.citymayors.com/statistics/richest-cities-2005.html
here are GDP PPP of the capital cities in Billion Dollars in 2005
1. Singapore 129 104% of GDP
2. Metro Manila 108 26.37% of GDP
3. Jakarta 98 11.34% of GDP
4. Bangkok 89 15.9% of GDP
5. Ho Chi Minh City 38 16.4% of GDP
6. Kuala Lumpur (was not included in the list sorry)


NOTE: I USED GDP PPP just because that is what PricewaterhouseCoopers used for their estimates and projections


PPP is kinda really confusing coz in 2005 GDP PPP of the Philippines is 409,445 but in 2008 it's 320,384
i guess it has something to do with currency and inflation values.

MY INTEREST REALLY IS TO SHOW US HOW MANY PERCENT EACH CAPITAL CITIES CONTRIBUTE TO THEIR NATIONAL GDPs
so please dont be mad at me LOL

Bangkok's GDP (PPP) is US$220 billion in 2005. Why it dropped to US$180 billion in 2020? :nuts:

hey where did you get the value $220 billion for 2005?
just curious

i'm thinking you mistook Thailands 2005 Nominal GDP as Bangkok's GDP PPP..
the list only talks about the city.. not the entire country.. and PPP not Nominal.

It's always confusing when I read about Manila, because it means Manila or Metro Manila? I read in the Wikipedia, the size of Manila City (not Metro Manila) is only about 40 km2. If we talk about Metro Manila, the size is 636 km2..

Jakarta, in the other hand, is about 750 km2, and it is Jakarta City it self. If we talk about Metropolitan Jakarta (known as Jabodetabek or Greater Jakarta), the size is about 7315 km2..

So I think it's definitely clear which city is bigger between Manila and Jakarta hehe.... :)

Note that Metro Manila is more the central core of this region. Manila's Urban sprawl has spread through its neighbouring provinces including the Calabarzon and Central Luzon regions. Include this and its population rivals that of Jabodetabek.

Manila alone will contribute a low GDP compared to other ASEAN cities. The fact that much of the region's economic activity happens outside the city limits.

Even if Indonesia has the largest economy in South East Asia it still is a developing country. Its the same with other countries (Brunei included) in this region except Singapore.

It doesn't matter if Indonesia has a higher GDP than The Philippines or if Malaysia is more advanced compared to other large ASEAN countries. What matter is if the economy in these cities is booming.

^^

Naturally, because Indonesia has a larger population than the Philippines.............

population in manila larger than jakarta

^^

i mean the Country, not the City.

^^

i mean the Country, not the City.

Dear kenken94 , this thred is about cities not country . Please read carefuly the tittle of this thread .

^^

It was supposed to be a reply to another post. I just answered that Indonesia as a country naturally has a higher GDP because it has a larger population.

Note that Metro Manila is more the central core of this region. Manila's Urban sprawl has spread through its neighbouring provinces including the Calabarzon and Central Luzon regions. Include this and its population rivals that of Jabodetabek.

Manila alone will contribute a low GDP compared to other ASEAN cities. The fact that much of the region's economic activity happens outside the city limits.

"LAGUNA CAVITE RIZAL and BULACAN" cities and towns like Bacoor, Imus, Dasmarinas, Santa Rosa,.. etc.. etc.. are not part of Metro Manila.. the "more correct term" for them are SUBURBS, and their GDPs are not included in Metro Manila's but in their own provinces.

"LAGUNA CAVITE RIZAL and BULACAN" cities and towns like Bacoor, Imus, Dasmarinas, Santa Rosa,.. etc.. etc.. are not part of Metro Manila.. the "more correct term" for them are SUBURBS, and their GDPs are not included in Metro Manila's but in their own provinces.

These town/cities are not part of metro manila but these towns are highly urbanized and form a sprawl since they surround Metro Manila. Just like the town and cities that surround Jakarta, they are not part of the city but they form a sprawl.

Metro Manila including its neighbouring suburbs its considered as Mega Manila and can match the size and population of Jabodetabek.

You get what I mean!

^^
Mega Manila is core of Philippines' economic activities........ Provinces farther south of Luzon tasted only very little of these economic achievements and are still really poor. That's why Manila accounts a large percentage on the GDP.

Metro Manila (NCR) has a suprisingly higher GRDP because it accounts for a larger percentage of the total GDP of the Philippines than the capital cities of other countries in South East Asia.

Metro Manila (NCR) has a suprisingly higher GRDP because it accounts for a larger percentage of the total GDP of the Philippines than the capital cities of other countries in South East Asia.

Aren't other Philippine metro areas have a large contribution to the country's economy like those of Cebu and Davao?

Metro Manila contributes only 26.37% of GDP
but it's still very high compared to other countries except Singapore, which is a CITY-STATE

Aren't other Philippine metro areas have a large contribution to the country's economy like those of Cebu and Davao?

Metro Cebu is only a name coined by businessmen to describe Cebu's growing dominance in the Philippine Economy but this name is not legislatively true.:)

As of now Cebu accounts a lower portion on the GDP than Manila.:)

Key Emerging Markets

RP 9th in list of 12 emerging markets for UK investors

By Pia Lee- Brago
(The Philippine Star)
Updated September 18, 2009 12:00 AM

MANILA, Philippines - The Philippines ranked ninth among 12 countries picked as key emerging markets for global investors in 2009, according to new research published by UK Trade & Investment.

The survey, titled “Which of the following emerging countries are you considering to invest in the next few years,” listed the Philippines among 12 countries now favored by investors.

Last year, a similar survey was conducted among several countries and the Philippines ranked 23rd.

The British Embassy in Manila said UK Secretary of State Lord Mandelson revealed the findings of the new report at the Economist Intelligence Unit’s Emerging Markets Summit in London yesterday.

The report examines global business attitudes to emerging markets in light of the global downturn.

“The report we’re publishing today has a few basic messages. First, the basic conditions in the emerging economies are varied and not universal. China and India have continued to grow rapidly, although at less than the trend rate of the last decade. Other parts of the emerging world are also performing well relative to the rich world, but well below recent trends,” Mandelson said.

“On a more positive point, most of the 500-plus companies surveyed by the report are cautious about quick recovery but they were very positive about the long term potential of the emerging economies,” he added.

The survey found that 77 percent of companies expect the prospects for the global economy to improve in 2010-2011. 60 percent of companies surveyed expected to derive more than 20 percent of their total revenues from emerging markets in five years’ time – almost double the current figure of 31 percent.

However, political risk, including the risk of nationalization and expropriation, was cited by 50 percent of survey respondents as the greatest government-related obstacle to doing business in emerging markets.

In the Philippines, local and foreign chambers highlighted the need for continued reforms despite significant progress.

Despite the economic downturn, emerging markets support global profitability. Emerging market economies, on the back of the continued high growth and market size of China and India, have outperformed those of developed countries in 2009.

“It’s clear that many British businesses have been able to hedge their recession performance thanks to a strong presence in the emerging economies. And they do see a long game in which WTO-membership and improving legal and commercial environments will make it easier to do business there,” he said.

British Ambassador Stephen Lillie said he was very upbeat about the Philippines as an exciting investor haven in Asia.

“The global recession was a wake-up call for companies to diversify their export base and seek out new opportunities in the emerging world. We are encouraging UK business to look to the Philippines and find new business in this exciting new market.”

The United Kingdom is the top net Foreign Direct Investment (FDI) investor in the Philippines, investing $298.17 million last year. There are currently around 200 British companies active in the Philippines, ranging from big multi-nationals to small and medium enterprises (SMEs).

President Arroyo delivered a keynote message during the Emerging Markets Summit in London yesterday. Over 300 business leaders and investors from all over the world participated in the forum, giving President Arroyo the opportunity to share the Philippines’ view on Asia’s leadership in the global economic recovery and to promote the Philippines as an investment destination.

Mrs. Arroyo highlighted the resiliency and continued growth of the Philippine economy, which posted 1.5 percent economic growth in the second quarter of 2009.

The President also said the UK has generously offered its assistance and support to the ongoing peace efforts in Mindanao, including sharing its own experience in securing peace in Northern Ireland.

Ranking:

1. Vietnam
2. United Arab Emirates
3. Mexico
4. South Africa
5. Malaysia
6. Indonesia
7. Singapore
8.Turkey
9. Philippines
10. Saudi Arabia

Good news for the Philippines. Vietnam at the top! Amazing.

^^ great news for South East ASIA

Hahaha... Sadly Malaysia is not in the list because of the small population....

hey read the list again.
Malaysia is actually 5th. LOL
so don't be sad.. OK?

im happy for Viet Nam. Yay!:banana:

Rank City/Urban area Country Est GDP in 2020 in US$bn Est annual growth 2005-2020

2020 GDP PPP

Above US$bn 1,000

1 Tokyo Japan 1602 2.00%
2 New York USA 1561 2.20%

Above US$bn 500

4 London UK 708 3.00%
6 Paris France 611 1.90%

Above US$bn 400

9 Osaka/Kobe Japan 430 1.60%
14 Hong Kong China 407 3.50%

Above US$bn 300

16 Shanghai China 360 6.50%
17 Seoul South Korea 349 3.20%
24 Mumbai India 300 6.00%

Above US$bn 200

27 Istanbul Turkey 287 5.20%
29 Beijing China 259 6.60%
30 Metro Manila Philippines 257 5.90%
33 Jakarta Indonesia 253 6.50%
34 Delhi India 229 6.20%
36 Guangzhou China 227 6.90%
38 Kolkata India 224 5.90%
40 Singapore Singapore 218 3.60%

Above US$bn 100

46 Bangkok Thailand 180 4.80%
49 Tehran Iran 172 4.50%
50 Riyadh Saudi Arabia 167 5.00%
51 Pusan South Korea 165 3.80%
66 Karachi Pakistan 127 5.80%
67 Dhaka Bangladesh 126 6.10%
74 Tianjin China 112 6.30%
75 Jiddah Saudi Arabia 111 4.80%
76 Bangalore India 110 6.20%

Above US$bn 90

78 Ho Chi Min City Vietnam 98 6.50%
80 Wuhan China 96 6.40%
81 Fukuoka Japan 96 2.00%
83 Hyderabad India 92 6.10%
84 Chennai India 91 6.00%

Above US$bn 80

87 Ankara Turkey 87 5.00%
88 Chongqing China 87 6.30%

Above US$bn 70

94 Ahmadabad India 78 6.20%
97 Pune India 76 6.30%
103 Hanoi Vietnam 73 6.60%

Above US$bn 60

104 Bandung Indonesia 69 6.70%
107 Shenyang China 68 6.30%
109 Lahore Pakistan 67 5.90%
114 Izmir Turkey 62 4.90%

Above US$bn 50

119 Surat India 57 6.50%
123 Chengdu China 51 6.30%

Above US$bn 40

128 Xian China 48 6.40%
130 Taegu South Korea 45 1.90%
132 Changchun China 42 6.90%
133 Kanpur India 41 6.30%

Above US$bn 30

135 Baghdad Iraq 39 4.00%
136 Chittagong Bangladesh 39 6.30%
137 Jaipur India 38 6.40%
139 Lucknow India 35 6.30%
140 Yangon Burma 33 4.80%

Above US$bn 20

143 Faisalabad Pakistan 24 6.00%
145 Kabul Afghanistan 22 6.10%

Above US$bn 10

151 Pyongyang North Korea 13 1.50%

http://www.citymayors.com/statistics/richest-cities-2020.html

this list is bullshit, all the chinese cities list above already reached this ppp figure in 2008, let alone 2020, and any chinese cities are growing double digit,cities like chongqing or Wuhan are growing like 30%+,and shanghai(suzhou,hangzhou)metro,beijing(tianjin)metro,guangzhou(with shenzhen hk) metro areas would exceed one trillion each in ppp, no one ever predict chinese economy right, they always underestimated the growth, by 2020 China would have GDP nominal at 10trillion usd in gdp, so this list is a sh*t

^^ I think the list is incomplete though

Where's Taipei
Is Taipei not rich

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/Regions_and_Prefectures_of_Japan.svg/500px-Regions_and_Prefectures_of_Japan.svg.png


東京都Tokyo(92兆円)....韓国South korea(90兆円)
大阪府Osaka(38兆円).....台湾Taiwan(37兆円)
愛知県aichi(35兆円)......ギリシャGreece(34兆円)
神奈川kanagawa(31兆円)......アラブ首長国連邦UAE(25兆円)
埼玉県saitama(21兆円)......シンガポールSingapore (17兆円) Kongkong(19兆)
兵庫県Hyogo(19兆円).......Ukraine(17兆円)
千葉県chiba(19兆円).......chili(16兆円)
静岡県shizuoka(16兆円).........Kuwait (15兆円)
広島県Hiroshima(13兆円).......Qaṭar(10兆円)Philippines 13兆円
)茨城県Ibaragi(10兆円)......Iraq(9兆円)
京都府kyoto(10兆円).......Vietnam(8兆円)
新潟県Niigata(*9兆円)......Morocco(8兆円)
宮城県Miyagi(*8兆円)......Croatia(6兆円)
栃木県tochigi(*8兆円)
長野県nagano(*8兆円)
三重県mie(*8兆円)
福島県Fukushima(*7兆円)
群馬県Gunma(*7兆円)
岡山県Okayama(*7兆円)
岐阜県Gifu(*7兆円)
滋賀県shiga(*6兆円)
山口県Yamaguchi(*5兆円)
)
熊本県kumamoto(*5兆円).....Uzbekistan(2兆円)
鹿児島kagoshima(*5兆円) 　　　・
　　　・
　　　・
Japanese prefecture last
鳥取県Tottori(*2兆円).....Paraguay(1兆円)

1兆円＝￥1,000,000,000,000

Annoying Singaporean.

Thailand and Malaysia shud built a canal - new megastructures for international shipping.

it will help vietnam as well as cambodia in term of economic.


Ermmm... I understand the canal will benefit more countries especially Thailand, Malaysia, Cambodia, Vietnam and even Philippines.

But is that project actually viable?

Anyway Singapore is more than TRADE today. I think they can prosper even without the PORT.

Annoying Singaporean.

Thailand and Malaysia shud built a canal - new megastructures for international shipping.

it will help vietnam as well as cambodia in term of economic.

I'm very sorry if some of the high rank officials have offended our friends. But do bear in mind these are only remarks (if they are true) made by certain individuals and not official statements from the Government of Singapore. They do not represent the Government or people of Singapore.

I'm very sorry if some of the high rank officials have offended our friends. But do bear in mind these are only remarks (if they are true) made by certain individuals and not official statements from the Government of Singapore. They do not represent the Government or people of Singapore.

I somehow agree that Malaysia has alot alot of incompetent politicians... Sad

Hope the economy is better next year.

btw why is Taipei and KL not in that list #67?

btw why is Taipei and KL not in that list #67?

That list is skewed, wrong date...

Here is an incomplete ranking by GDP 2009 in USD

Worldwide
http://i52.tinypic.com/2naoefc.jpg

East Asia:
http://i56.tinypic.com/153p95j.jpg

SEA:
http://i55.tinypic.com/taq7pz.jpg

That is actually a 2008 ranking and is very innacurate and uses bad metrics to compare the cities.

Here is the 2009 GDP of cities, data is taken from the government of each country

Metropolitan Area GDP Asian ranking (The number is its world rank):

2009
1. Tokyo metro area: 1,605 billion US dollars
6. Osaka metro area: 671
11. Nagoya metro area: 430
...Seoul-Incheon metro area: 367
...Shanghai: 220
...Hong Kong: 211
...Fukuoka metro area: 188
...Beijing: 178
...Singapore: 177

Definitions for the metro areas:
- Tokyo: Tokyo-to + Kanagawa + Saitama + Chiba
- Osaka-Kobe-Kyoto: Osaka-fu + Kyoto-fu + Hyogo
- Nagoya: Aichi + Gifu
- Seoul-Incheon: Seoul + Incheon + Gyeonggi
- Shanghai: Shanghai Municipality
- Hong Kong: Hong Kong SAR
- Fukuoka: Fukuoka Prefecture
- Beijing: Beijing Municipality
-Singapore: Singapore


Taipei should be somewhere in between Seoul and Hong Kong.

^^ Ah yeah... My preceding list (from wiki actually) is not so accurate as yours :D Do you have the statistical data about SEA cites?

It's harder to find that data...Actually I made a thread about it here but no one really contributed :(

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1222023&highlight=

KL alone contributes to 40% of the country'money :(
Whats the best site to search about this gdp city except wiki

^^ Greater KL alone is home to 26% of all Malaysians. By 2020, 1 in every 3 Malaysians will be living in Klang Valley :nuts:

^^ Ah yeah... My preceding list (from wiki actually) is not so accurate as yours :D Do you have the statistical data about SEA cites?

The order seems to be right for SEA.. but the figures probably not.

humm, i always thought that KL was pretty rich felt very modern and rich when i was in Malaysia.. But they are not even on that list and must be even poorer then North koreas? Or doesn't Malaysia gives out that figures?

KL alone (W.Kuala Lumpur) is about 80 US$bn (2010) with population around 2 million and Selangor alone is about 120+ US$bn (2010) with population around 5 million :)..I think Greater KL (KL+Petaling Jaya+Sepang+Gombak+etc) will be around 100+ US$bn

http://www.green-voters.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Map-of-Tmn-Warisan-Selangor.jpg

Note: KL located within Selangor and KLIA also located in Sepang District in Selangor

^^ so KL (US$ 80 b) + Selangor (US$ 120 b) = US$ 200 ?

Wow it's almost 100% of Malaysia's GDP in 2010!

Do you have any official sources to support your statement?

^^ It supposed to be RM, not USD. Based on the 2010 GDP, KL+Selangor contributed one third of the Malaysian GDP

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/337/gdpw.jpg