The Oasis Beach Hotel closes on 1 September 2008 for demolition.

Proposal is a 90 storey hotel.

http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/cranesetcphotos/obh.jpg

as u can see. feel sorry for al fattan owners, this is dubai where dreams are fucked up!.

as u can see. feel sorry for al fattan owners, this is dubai where dreams are fucked up!.

I just promised myself today that I will never anymore pay extra for a better view.

I was once told that there was a height restriction for buildngs on the beach side of the Jumeirah road. Why they want to build something this tall so close to the beach just disturbs me.

This could be the start of a free for all on the hotel plots.

:lol: It looks freakishly out of place on its own.

At least some of JBR is protected by the beach parks.

Really, wow :omg:

But I believe first we got some press release!!! :hm:

If a 90 story tower is placed cleverly, it might not obstruct views from Al Fattan, however: imagine all these people driving to the tower, going to the beach etc., there is just no more room in this area and traffic in the morning is already terrible with only 25% at most occupied at JBR. Crazy, the infrastructure will be choked in no time, unless they commute over the water.

But come on guys, its got a picture of Sheikh Mohamed on it, surely he won't allow his country to be flushed down the toilet by the mentally retarded psychiatric patients that are at the forefront of this and hundreds of other such banal decisions....will he?

It's every jbr owner with a sea view that should be seriously worried. They've messed up The World by going ahead with The Universe. Now it looks as if all the hotels on the beachfront are up for grabs to be replaced by huge hotel towers.

From the sea they will be blocking the only smart looking buildings that are there.

It's every jbr owner with a sea view that should be seriously worried. They've messed up The World by going ahead with The Universe. Now it looks as if all the hotels on the beachfront are up for grabs to be replaced by huge hotel towers.

Hrmmm - why is the beach development delayed ? My lesson here in Dubai - expect the unexpected :guns1:? - If they continue I will call Rambo in to fight these view-killers. Heard he is looking for a new manuscript :cheers:

This is owned and developed by the same person who owns the Al Fattan towers as well (guess how he's called...)

He's a very close friend of Sheikh Mohammed, probably even studied and graduated together from the Military Academy in the UK.

i would expect similar high rise hotels to replace the Ritz, the Hilton, and Sheraton, and maybe even the Le Royal Meridien in the next 3-5 years.

BTW, from what i read, occupancy rate in JBR is over 70% now, which would explain the limited number of apartments available for rent in JBR nowadays.

This is owned and developed by the same person who owns the Al Fattan towers as well (guess how he's called...)

He's a very close friend of Sheikh Mohammed, probably even studied and graduated together from the Military Academy in the UK.

Does this friend live in Abu Dhabi by any chance ? :D

^^ No Steve, no connection. His name is (General) Al Fattan.

:lol: It looks freakishly out of place on its own.

At least some of JBR is protected by the beach parks.

Are the beach parks for the JBR only or could they be used by the marina residents as well? I was wondering where the nearest public beach was.

These beach parks are not safe any longer, expect to be developed at some stage

Thanks. Where is the nearest public beach to the marina?

how can they even expect to build a foundation that deep so close to the shore? I have a feeling no sea view is safe in Marina anymore.. the only 'guaranteed' views would be on the shore of the marina

Thats going to be one busy packed beach in a few years time!

Thanks. Where is the nearest public beach to the marina?

There is public access to the beach to the left of le royal meridien.

i hope old Sheratonin hotel + le royal meridien in the way :banana::banana::banana: so no sea views anymore except a**e of marina :lol::lol:

Thats going to be one busy packed beach in a few years time!

They may as well rename it Blackpool now. Save the confusion later.

Maybe it will look like this beach in China :lol:

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/08/chinabeach040806_600x399.jpg

how can they even expect to build a foundation that deep so close to the shore? I have a feeling no sea view is safe in Marina anymore.. the only 'guaranteed' views would be on the shore of the marina

Great news for all who brought front line marina yeah

so, the gossip was true, 90 F :)

Maybe the plan is to shut down China and India, and relocate the masses to Dubai? Long live the Dubai vision.:toilet:

To be honest I wouldn't pay extra for a view anywhere, not even in bay central. Who knows, they might even fill up the marina and build towers there. I wouldn't be surprised.

Thats going to be one busy packed beach in a few years time!

I doubt it, what is the point of going to a beach that is going to be in the shade cast by a 90 storey shadow

why dubai why... this is the universe of the marina

Maybe it will look like this beach in China :lol:

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/08/chinabeach040806_600x399.jpg



:omg: :omg: Unbelievable!! Not the mine. Bahhhh :ohno::ohno:

so, the gossip was true, 90 F :)


This is just proposed!! Don't believe this is going through!!

Why they not build Dubai Marina 2??? Than they can build so much 90 floor towers as they would!! :)

I was once told that there was a height restriction for buildngs on the beach side of the Jumeirah road. Why they want to build something this tall so close to the beach just disturbs me.

This could be the start of a free for all on the hotel plots.

this is what i also first thought about.... why no building this one at the arse end of the marina as a counterpart to the wheel shaped hotel?

Dubai Marina 2015???

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5971/78340601cb1.th.jpg (http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=78340601cb1.jpg)

^^ most probably .... :nuts:

Its tasteless and childish :(

The design is ugly to begin with, im not sure any skyscraper would look good there though. Maybe if it worked better with the al fattans twin towers, that is if it was designed to sort of look grouped with them.

Dubai Marina 2015???

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5971/78340601cb1.th.jpg (http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=78340601cb1.jpg)

Hahahahahhahaha :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: BURNER!!!!!!

This the universe of the marina? Sure it destroys some views but it doesn't really look bad. I think there'll be more to it than what's shown, especially at the base.

^^ Yup, same as the Marina101's first render that had no base at all.

so, the gossip was true, 90 F :)Well DONE Imre - you were right - hope your right with al burj also

Ok tower... BAAAAAD location!

This is just proposed!! Don't believe this is going through!!

Why they not build Dubai Marina 2??? Than they can build so much 90 floor towers as they would!! :)


Wow, its been a long time since I have posted.. but felt compelled. We have units in Al Fattan Tower, and a relative of mine has strong contacts there. They ARE going ahead with this plan and Shk. Mohd has also visited and 'approved the plan', however I am sure final talks are still happening.

Oha!! Thx for info ragga!!!

Good or bad news :hm: for owners in the Al Fattan Towers very bad I think!! :ohno:

http://www.jebelali-international.com/properties/oasis_beach_hotel/hotel/overview.html

Hotel Closure
As Dubai continues to grow and expand, there are still several extraordinary new projects which will continue to change the face of this vibrant city. The owners of the Oasis Beach Hotel building which Jebel Ali International Hotels manage, have recently communicated that they are likely to develop a new exciting project on the existing grounds of the Oasis Beach Hotel. This new project will result in the full closure of the Oasis Beach Hotel on 1st September 2008. While exact details of the new project are not available as of yet, international and local tour operator partners will be kept informed of the updates as and when they become available. For more information, please contact your travel agent or alternatively the hotel directly.

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This is just.. crappy.

On the other hand, i am not 100% sure this means free for all development on the hotel plots on the beach. As altin said, there is close connection to the government here.

If they really go ahead with these plans I can only feel sorry for all neighbours and for the people living in Dubai Marina... it will be another nightmare and a new job site with all the bad impacts for a couple of years... why can't they leave at least one part of the Marina as it is...

Can you imagine the traffic of trucks and buses with workers etc. ? The Marina and JBR will be also more populated. As it is, there is a traffic jam every morning on the road parallel to SZR. This will be a traffic nightmare unless they bring in the building goods from the sea (which they probably won't)

I think this tower does set a precedent for supertall towers at beach edge. We should get ready for 100 story plus towers all along the beach. As it is, that single 90-story tower looks very out of place. There will be severe traffic problems unless a SZR style expressway is built right along the shore. I think a new first for Dubai will have to be an offshore expressway. Think about, it could make a very surreal image in keeping with everything else in this futuristic development. The expressway could be built high enough and far enough off-shore that it would not disturb beachgoers.

Dubai Marina 2015???

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5971/78340601cb1.th.jpg (http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=78340601cb1.jpg)

Malec, your image featured (http://drumsplease.blogspot.com/2008/04/incredible-image.html) on my blog... hope you don't mind.

Are the beach parks for the JBR only or could they be used by the marina residents as well? I was wondering where the nearest public beach was.

From the Marina you could also access the beach by the passage between the Jumeriah Beach Sales Office and the Ritz Carlton Hotel.

The hotels do take up the beaches, however you can walk up and down the entire beach front and I often did (albeit staying in one of the JBR apartments) I always would seat myself down near the sea in front of any of the hotels. I never was approached by the hotel lifeguards or security men that are positioned at every hotel's beach seating area.

However an agent did tell me that even the Jumeriah Beach sales office will become a Beach club ( you can see it also as the work being done to and a nice walkway from office onto the beach can already be seen) and all the beach fronts will only be accessible if you are part of a Beach Club, which will make it difficult in the future for those that own Marina properties to access the beach without being a member of one of the beach clubs

I also found it quite disappointing and unfair for the Emiratis and general public. As the only public beach I saw was near the Burj Al Arb hotel and the beach was absolutely heaving with people ( it was also a friday the weekend) and its didnt look very far from that beach picture of China! as ALL the shoreline is being brought up by big hotels and therefore more and more of the beach is limited to the general public.

I think free - an public - access to the beach on the pospular parts of the Dubai shoreline is gone forever now. There is plenty of empty public beach in RAK though - for now!!

Malec, your image featured (http://drumsplease.blogspot.com/2008/04/incredible-image.html) on my blog... hope you don't mind.

no problem :)

this si the recent hotel:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3270/2426002418_d52538419a_b.jpg

From the Marina you could also access the beach by the passage between the Jumeriah Beach Sales Office and the Ritz Carlton Hotel.

The hotels do take up the beaches, however you can walk up and down the entire beach front and I often did (albeit staying in one of the JBR apartments) I always would seat myself down near the sea in front of any of the hotels. I never was approached by the hotel lifeguards or security men that are positioned at every hotel's beach seating area.

However an agent did tell me that even the Jumeriah Beach sales office will become a Beach club ( you can see it also as the work being done to and a nice walkway from office onto the beach can already be seen) and all the beach fronts will only be accessible if you are part of a Beach Club, which will make it difficult in the future for those that own Marina properties to access the beach without being a member of one of the beach clubs

I also found it quite disappointing and unfair for the Emiratis and general public. As the only public beach I saw was near the Burj Al Arb hotel and the beach was absolutely heaving with people ( it was also a friday the weekend) and its didnt look very far from that beach picture of China! as ALL the shoreline is being brought up by big hotels and therefore more and more of the beach is limited to the general public.

Local law states that all beach 5m from shore is public and access is permitted.

Could someone repost the render?

In general it is a petty that you live so close to the beach but there is hardly a beach that you can use!!! If I was not living here I would laugh about it...

The beach is so bad as it is....wih slopes all over and no room to put your stuff...There are shdows on the beach...so goodbye sun and goodbye tourists in the long run.

Could someone repost the render?

small but better than nothing:

http://i37.tinypic.com/10r1x6w.jpg

and at least this one is saved on my Computer :)

Got this one:

http://i33.tinypic.com/25jb5n4.jpg

http://www.constructionweekonline.com/article-3734-super_tall_tower_could_replace_oasis_beach_hotel/

Am quite new here, but have been following the Oasis Beach Hotel saga. It would appear to be official after all. Check this out, and weep, Al Fattan Towers owners.:ohno:

The owners of Al Fattan also own the Oasis Beach Hotel....why would they weep?

If you mean the apartment owners, why would they weep? They will have an iconic 7 star hotel opposite them. Maybe the apartment owners' tenants may weep as the rents go up though...

Exactly, by owners, I'm talking people that, low and behold, may actually live in Al Fattan Towers, as opposed to people trying to make a quick buck. Own it by name or merely be tenants, for the time being, it's their home, and is soon to have a building site opposite for the next four years, after which time, sea views will be no more.

I'm sure the actual owners are laughing all the way to the bank.

Anyway, I think the real issue here is that the last bastion of low rise construction in Dubai - the beach front, is about to be blown out of the water. Quite literally.

Still, it's got a pic of Sheikh Mo on the side, so it must be alright!

^^ (General) Al Fattan is an old and very close friend of him. I think they attended the military Academy together (might be wrong)

^^Lieutenant General Mussabeh Rashid Al Fattan is the Director of Sheikh Mo's private office. You are correct in that that they do go way back.....

Exactly, by owners, I'm talking people that, low and behold, may actually live in Al Fattan Towers, as opposed to people trying to make a quick buck. Own it by name or merely be tenants, for the time being, it's their home, and is soon to have a building site opposite for the next four years, after which time, sea views will be no more.

I'm sure the actual owners are laughing all the way to the bank.

Anyway, I think the real issue here is that the last bastion of low rise construction in Dubai - the beach front, is about to be blown out of the water. Quite literally.

Still, it's got a pic of Sheikh Mo on the side, so it must be alright!

I would hope that Al Fattan group would give first refusal and discounts to existing owners within Al Fattan towers for the new tower. That is the least they can do as you are right regarding the construction noise, traffic, etc.

However, I don't agree with your logic that all sea front hotels will now have new towers in place of them. The JBR beach clubs will have to remain low rise, as I can see the JBR residents organising together to stop anymore development.

BTW Demolishing already started ...

BTW Demolishing already started ...

Will be finished by Christmas I think ?

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo34/melkor_gds/IMG_0715.jpg?t=1225151623

Another tower

http://jbrcommunity.com/download/file.php?id=61

Wow! What about the credit crunch?

I like how they make the tower seem so far from al fattan in the render...lol; its an ok design but I do think it complements al fattan and especially jumeirah beach residence having an all glass facade

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Wow! What about the credit crunch?


Hotel still the best business in Dubai , I can not see any risk to build it.

Another tower



it's the same hotel project! 20 stories of hotel rooms (floors 8-28). this means the new tower will be mixed-use tower. i think that's better than just a hotel.

This single lane beach road along JBR is already clogged in peak hours .. Access from / to the office / residential building will be very difficult.

And it is 106 floors tall and from the same Architecture studio as the Construction Week magazine reported. This should be the final design then ... doesn't mean it's the right place to build it though.

^^^^ malec & moderators inc.

why did you guys close the currencies thread. we really need one here!

today, nov. 2. demo work

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To build this massive piece of shit creates even a bigger mess than we have already in the marina. In the evening there is an absolute stillstand. Why don't they understand that you cannot put 100.000 people + tourists to live in such a crowded place like the marina without having the possiblity to move from A to B... if everybody stayed in their homes all day and night long it would be ok...but then you are dead...

I wish this would be moved to business bay or DIFC. I love the design, but it would fit in waaaay better there, and the marina is already too crowded with massive supertalls anyway.

This tower is simply out of place. Bad news if it has been approved.

http://i33.tinypic.com/qyh35j.jpg

just fantasy looking ... :cheers:

Is that the view from your place Steve, if yes, you got a great set up dude. From the shadow it looks like your rite next to the Al Fattan builings.

No, I wish, just a flickr photo.

Al-Fattan to issue Dubai Marina tower tender

* Published: 28 November 2008 19:32 GMT
* Author: Colin Foreman
* More by this Author
* Last Updated: 28 November 2008 19:32

The local Al-Fattan Properties will start construction early next year on a mixed-use tower, Burj al-Fattan, which will be one of the tallest towers in Dubai Marina.



Tender documents are expected to be issued in mid-December for the 96-storey building's main construction contract.

Three groups have been prequalified for the tender. They are the joint venture of the local Al-Habtoor Engineering Enterprises with South Africa's Murray & Roberts Contractors (Middle East), Lebanon's Arabian Construction Company (ACC), and the local Arabtec Construction.

The tower will be built on the site of the old Oasis Beach hotel that closed in August. UK-based Mace International is the project manager.

The prequalified companies are already involved in a number of ongoing projects in the area, or have recently completed them.

In 2006, Arabtec completed the Al-Fattan Marine Towers in the same area for the same client.

Among the other tall towers under construction at Dubai Marina are the 91-storey Elite tower and the 107-storey Princess tower, which ACC is building for local developer Tameer Holding.

In addition, Arabtec is building the 82-storey Ocean Heights for the UAE's Damac Properties and the 75-storey Infinity Tower for Saudi-based Cayan Investment & Development Company.

Other projects for the area include Hong Kong-based Trident Holding's 120-storey Pentominium and Abu Dhabi-based Das Holding's two 100-storey towers.

http://www.meed.com/news/2008/11/alfattan_to_issue_dubai_marina_tower_tender.html

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96 floors??? :hm:

^^^will look out of place...just dont understand the planning authorities in Dubai.:ohno:

change thread title to Burj al-Fattan

The local Al-Fattan Properties will start construction early next year on a mixed-use tower, Burj al-Fattan, which will be one of the tallest towers in Dubai Marina.

http://www.meed.com/news/2008/11/alfattan_to_issue_dubai_marina_tower_tender.html

In the article, which two 100 storey towers are they refering to.

sorry is that marina 101 and pincess tower.

http://i38.tinypic.com/2upr2h2.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/2mn21bt.jpg

Ok, that's a really weird title. It sounds like a 106 F tower called Burj Al Fattan is being demolished!!!

Can someone change it please? Thanks.

http://i38.tinypic.com/2upr2h2.jpg



what the hell are they doing there?

they dont know the dinamit???:)

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/2442/dinamitkl9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/9137/dinamit2hj9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

^^Maybe they are demolishing it this way, because the building contains asbetos.

^^^^No need for dynamite, etc. Just set fire to it from the inside and it will fall down just like WTC7.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3898962504721899003

It's way to close to Ritz Carlton and Al Fattan Marine Towers to do that ... but Jumeirah Trade Centre (former Hilton) Hotel was also close to Dubai World Trade Centre but they still did it.

28th November:

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/6738/sjm6209ze2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Thanks for soennecken :cheers:


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A Dubai landmark – the Oasis Beach Hotel – is under the wrecking ball after a decade-long vigil on Jumeirah Beach.

The popular 11-storey four-star favourite at Dubai Marina is being torn down to make way for a new development, as yet undisclosed by hotel managers Jebel Ali International Hotels, and owners Al Fattan Properties.

The firm said in a statement: "An exciting new project is expected on the existing site."

The new tower will be 106 storeys tall.

Heavy machinery has already taken down much of the western half of the former 252-room hotel

Oasis Beach Hotel was officially shuttered on August 29, 2008 after what the managers called a "phenomenal run".

"Although not a decision made by Jebel Ali International Hotels (we were the management company, but not owners), it is all part of being in Dubai and seeing this city constantly reinvent itself," the firm stated on its website.

Patrons frequented the beach bar as well as the French and Singaporean restaurants there.

The demolition work should be completed by the end of March.

http://www.xpress4me.com/news/uae/dubai/20011406.html

Awesome news Steve :master: :nuts:

http://www.xpress4me.com/images/09/01/14/oasis_02_5.jpg

yah, the thread title is quite funny, to be demolished or to be build.... quite confusing. please.... kindly change the title... :)

^^ First go here http://www.skyscrapercity.com/announcement.php?f=577&a=221

then read the thread from 1st page ....that's my offer to help you :) good luck .

^^ ??

yah, the thread title is quite funny, to be demolished or to be build.... quite confusing. please.... kindly change the title... :)
The title is supposed to mean that the site this tower is supposed to be built on has a building on it that is being demolished. If you can suggest a better way of putting this in one or two words that would be great. :)

I wonder if it is really going to be built?

I think it will be built, Al Fattan Group strong, they have money.

^^ Do they have enough to build this massive tower though? From the renders it doesn't look ultra thin like the usual marina towers either so will need a lot of materials.

15/February/2009

Burj Al Fattan ( aka Oasis Beach Hotel)

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/4546/imresolt68wa6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

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http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/5425/imresolt71fx8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Why do they take so long to knock stuff down in Dubai. Vegas is so much better at this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3K3kEDEAN4

^^ You should see how long it took to demolish the building for the shard tower in London. Talk about snail pace. :ohno:
Anyway it's probably too close to JBR or something to blow it up safely.

Why do they take so long to knock stuff down in Dubai. Vegas is so much better at this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3K3kEDEAN4
Several might knock them but the yanks know how to impress - hope this doesnt happen to Atalntis NEXT TIME THE FIREWORKS HAPPEN

Can't wait this one is demolished and ground work start on the Burj Al Fattan monster !! :eek:

hmm, well the global crisis might be over by the time this one indian and his ball demolishes the tower.

^^As someone who is proficient in breaking things, I would LOVE that job!!!!!!

This has become one of the biggest attraction @The Walk. :D

Nice work, any chance of a vid of the wrecking ball?

This has become one of the biggest attraction @The Walk. :D

Maybe they should charge AED 500 for half an hour until universal opens in 2013.

This has become one of the biggest attraction @The Walk. :D


i have to confirm that since i was just one of many who could not resist and take a flick

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/7221/img0898bw1.jpg

:cheers:

If you can suggest a better way of putting this in one or two words that would be great. :)

I'd say prep, if you ask me. These are preparation works for the construction, so... I realise we usually mean something else by that, but... Demolishing means, that they are demolishing Burj Al Fattan, which is not the case.

How about #PREP(DEMO)? :)

Why do they take so long to knock stuff down in Dubai. Vegas is so much better at this



wheres the rush :dunno:

there are not going to be any customers for the hotel for many years..

Nice work, any chance of a vid of the wrecking ball?

They aren't actually using a ball that charges the building swinging from the side, I guess for safety reasons. Instead they're using a kind of hanging dead weight that is let "free-falling" from above.

17/February/2009

Oasis Beach Hotel

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8049/imresolt031ta8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

25/February/2009

Dubai Marina

Burj Al Fattan (aka Oasis Beach Hotel)

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1523/imresolt097.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9339/imresolt098.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

So slow.

Nice work, any chance of a vid of the wrecking ball?

Not a vid unfortunately, but an animated GIF I made about three weeks ago out of some continuous shots

http://www.quetschluft.de/dubai/destruction.gif

^^I think they need a bigger wrecking ball!

Interesting to watch such a slow and backward demolition method. Obviously the company doing this don't have too much idea other than 'swinging the lead'.

They should have implode it. :ohno:

Bids in for Dubai's Burj al-Fattan

6 March, 2009

The local Al-Fattan Properties has received bids from at least two groups for its Burj al-Fattan project at Dubai Marina.

The bidders include the joint venture of the local Al-Habtoor Engineering Enterprises with South Africa’s Murray & Roberts Contractors (Middle East), and the local Arabtec Construction.

The scheme involves the construction of a 96-floor mixed-use tower on the site of the old Oasis Beach hotel (MEED 16:2:09).

UK-based Mace International is the project manager.

In 2006, Arabtec completed the Al-Fattan Marine Towers in the same area for the same client.

Dubai-based property developer Fortune Group has invited companies to submit bids by late March for the contract to build a 501-metre-high tower in Dubai. The high-rise project is called the Burj al-Alam.

Source: MEED (http://www.cnplus.co.uk/news/middle-east/bids-in-for-dubais-burj-al-fattan/www.meed.com)

http://www.cnplus.co.uk/news/middle-east/bids-in-for-dubais-burj-al-fattan/1994755.article

Hmm, maybe there's a reason al fattan have received bids and fortune group haven't? :)

Havent been at the site for two weeks or so, but I couldnt recognize any progress knocking this thing down. Same old monotony with the wrecking ball.

http://www.quetschluft.de/dubai/300_2582_qa.jpg

By End of next month Burj Al Fattan will reach 40% of Demolishing .

Only 96 floors??

Yes I think so

New picture.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3648/3382612217_92ec395b18_b.jpg

Nice night pic :)

When I compare the upper left section with my pic from March 8th not a pebble has left the spot :lol:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3325/3429934070_2c395527e9_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3080/3424445296_52b4b9bd4b_b.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/168eiv9.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3565/3432378427_359836d6cb_b.jpg

Demolition seems to have picked up. Compare the picture above to this on from the 10th of April.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3080/3424445296_52b4b9bd4b_b.jpg

^^They demolished 2 rows of windows.....

^^ Well better doing it in 4 days than a whole month.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3521/3467367805_472532e858_b.jpg

20/May/2009

Burj Al Fattan

http://i44.tinypic.com/2vjv7rs.jpg

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http://i43.tinypic.com/4iohl1.jpg

More demolition

http://i42.tinypic.com/vhawwx.jpg

More parking places comming soon for people who'll visit The Walk. :D

^^That would suit me!!! I don't think General Al Fattan would it leave it as a car park though...Might just become a third tower to complement the other 2 rather than that huge, skinny tower render we have all seen.

^^ A huge but skinny tower is better than a short and fat one. :)

16/June/2009

Burj Al Fattan

http://i44.tinypic.com/4hbghh.jpg

http://i42.tinypic.com/akbqs2.jpg

I bet the cafes etc opposite this demo site are breathing a sigh of relief now that it is almost over.

9 months of noise dust and worry that the thing is going to collapse uncontrolled.

^^

Yes, and now they only have to wait 4 or 5 years of dust and noise for the building of the new tower.....:)

Let's see, does it become a tower or a carpark?

Just a build a new mid-rise hotel there, ok. :D

They could have had an extra season out of Oasis Beach (v. nice, I've stayed there), and made more than enough money to buy a few sticks of dynamite and done the job in 8 seconds instead of 8 months.

there are strict restrictions on importing explosives. Where is this new concept from? Just done it at home or a serious draft from the Al Fattan guys?

that was the first hotel I went to when I came to Dubai, and fell in love with city. when I saw it last week it was kind of sad, also thought they could of still been up and running threw this economic down turn. I bet alot of people were banging there heads on the wall for jumping the gun to early.

http://i42.tinypic.com/2wf8kko.jpg

there are strict restrictions on importing explosives.

They used explosives when they were trying to demolish the Pearl - although it did take several attempts.

They used explosives when they were trying to demolish the Pearl - although it did take several attempts.

Same scenario, they were not allowed to import enough and used the same technique in the end

The World Trade Center Hotel was brought down with explosives, and so was the Chicago Beach Hotel.

BTW, WTC Hotel (back then a Hilton) was where I stayed when I first came to Dubai almost a decade ago. I remember watching from the window the cranes on top of then almost completed Emirates Towers.

Wow, I wish I would have seen Dubai in that stage. When I came Burj Dubai was already 200m high.
Anyway, in 10 years a lot changes, there might still be companies that can manage o bring in explosives, but the guys from the Pearl could not, about the Oasis I don't know, maybe the same or not enough space around it

A general shoud have access to some, hmm? ;)

463m

Burj Al Fattan Tower

Client: All Fattan Properties


Architect: LWD Architects

Consultant: Hyder Consulting Middle East Ltd

Location: Dubai, UAE


DNEC role: Engaged with Hyder Consulting Middle East Ltd to

prepare Concept and Preliminary design.


Duration: June 2008 - Dec, 2008, DNEC - Belgrade, Serbia


Status: Tender stage


Composite Steel/Reinforced concrete tower structure. Mixed use high-rise development of 97 storeys. Total height 463m. Four underground parking levels. High strength concrete up to 100MPa cylinder strength utilized.

http://dnec-srb.com/index.php?page_id=230

^^

You think that will get built ?

they have money and some banks behind them thats why they can get a good deal from the contractors now, its around a 5 years project , there is a chance to start.

they have money and some banks behind them thats why they can get a good deal from the contractors now, its around a 5 years project , there is a chance to start.

Yep they have the money, the financial backing and the local influence, but who is going to buy the product off them? No doubt its in a fantastic location, but attempting to sell 'off plan' into this market would be a very bullish move.

Unless they are considering building it an selling it later, which again is very speculative because who knows where prices will be in the future?

All things considered I think the General will wait to see how the market goes over the next year before committing to any significant expense. I mean look how long its taken to demolish...................its hard to believe such an 'eyesore' would be tolerated in such a public location..............he is probably one of the few that could get away with it.

463m
Please edit title !!

http://dnec-srb.com/files/Image/pentominium_pic/DX00637-Burj-Alfattan-11.jpg

Awesome Imre, thanks a lot !

The Old tower totally Gone .

^^ Looks like this is a model for an 3D engineeringprogram. Where did you get this picture from? Can't wait to see how it will look with cladding in a render.

I don't like it at all. If a tower is to be built on that location at all it should be tall and sleek with a big spire.

^^ Looks like this is a model for an 3D engineeringprogram. Where did you get this picture from? Can't wait to see how it will look with cladding in a render.

http://i25.tinypic.com/13yikuo.jpg

http://www.dnec-srb.com/index.php?page_id=230

They are partner of the Hyder in this project . (working with The Pentominium as well )

463 meters is even higher then I expected. But, the location isn't very good as it will block the views from the Al Fattan Marine Towers.

Any pictures of the site? Has demolition been finished? Is it a carpark yet? :)

Al-Fattan Dubai Marine Tower

Client: Al-Fattan Properties

Estimated Value: 150m USD

Consultants: Main Consultant: Mace International (Project Manager)

Project Type: Mixed Use

Project Duration:

From: Q2 2009 Estimated
To: Q2 2012 Estimated

Status: Tender for Construction Contract

Scope: The project calls for construction of a 96-storey luxury tower on the site of the old Oasis Beach Hotel, in Dubai Marine. The tower will be the tallest tower in Dubai Marina.

Schedule: Al-Fattan Properties had invited the bidders to submit the bids. The deadline for bids submitting for the main construction contract is 31st of January 2009. The prospective bidders include the joint venture of the local Al-Habtoor Engineering Enterprises with Murray & Roberts Contractors (Middle East), Alec, Arabian Construction Company (ACC), Arabtec Construction, and Multiplex.

The prospective bidders include the joint venture of the local Al-Habtoor Engineering Enterprises with Murray & Roberts Contractors (Middle East), Alec, Arabian Construction Company (ACC), Arabtec Construction, and Multiplex.

and what about the DCE ?:)

I was at the site two days ago, no sign of Oasis Hotel even being there, as a matter of fact they're digging a big hole at the moment.

I took a better look, and when this tower is finished there will still be good views from the other buildings.

and what about the DCE ?:)

^^:laugh:

I think developers follow this forum as a means of spying on the competition. They will have picked up all the negative criticism of DCE and won't be keen to be associated with them.

Power to Skyscrapercity.com:okay:

Project Duration:

From: Q2 2009 Estimated
To: Q2 2012 Estimated


This would only cover the approval phase and foundation works.

Don't see this being complete before 2015, if it ever goes ahead.

They have quite a bit of money, so I think it will go ahead, but it will be completed by 2015-2016, not 2012.:)

They Estimated so ... could be in "any year close by,but if you had saw the old alfattan tower how was get build in short time :) iam very sure this building will be in fast line . "only the name will speak of speed of construction in next couple of months

I can't wait for them to actually start construction! Any updated pictures?

Could be for here or Al Bateen;

Our Client is looking for a Construction Manager. This is a permanent position based in Dubai.

Our Client is a major international Construction Management organization, and a leader in construction industry techniques.

Job Description:
Responsible for Construction Management on a prestigious hotel development complex.
Total project management of a multistory hotel construction project on Jumeria beach.
Infrastucture and high rise experience experience essential.

Candidates must have experience of Project/Construction Management of structures of 70 stories plus, and be degree qualified.

Please call recruiter for further information, or alternatively send current resume along with salary expectations and availability.

Could be for here or Al Bateen;

Nice job for you TB not far to walk from TJ

Have to get a taxi to the JLT metro station, get off at Marina station, catch the feeder bus from Marina station which goes past The Torch, get off at Bay Central and then short walk through the Al Fattan towers to the site office. By car, over the bridge at Dorrabay onto junction 5.5, North on SZR to jct 5 exit to The Torch, over the bridge into marina and sharp right opposite Bay Central, through onto JBR walk and park in the public car park.

Journey would have been much easier if I had bought in Torch or Bay Central:)

any updated pictures?

Looks not ! Very slow progress...

So anything here yet? Is the site a parking lot yet or have they started soil testing, digging a hole, etc.

Don't think the demolishing is over yet...

demolishing completely done. the plot is all sand now, fenced and clean, but there is no activity, no equipment or anything indicating upcoming construction. was there yesterday.

Atleast the half demolished building is gone, it made the JBR walk look bad

demolishing completely done. the plot is all sand now, fenced and clean, but there is no activity, no equipment or anything indicating upcoming construction. was there yesterday.

any chance of a couple of photos?

I can confirm that there is absolutely nothing left of the old building and there is only just sand there now...nothing else....

http://i50.tinypic.com/bh379.jpg

no ongoing works on site

Any news on this project?

Bump

piling completed, waiting for the main contractor to arrive ... or maybe not!

good news :cheers:

piling completed, waiting for the main contractor to arrive ... or maybe not!

^^Piling completed?? Are you sure about that?

There is nothing on the plot. Piling must have been a Fata Morgana

bump

so wait, this is going ahead now ???? so many years later? another 2020 finish date?

On Hold !

http://gigapan.org/gigapans/65771/

good news :cheers:

^^Piling completed?? Are you sure about that?

There is nothing on the plot. Piling must have been a Fata Morgana


:doh:



:lol:

http://i52.tinypic.com/73j994.jpg
It is on hold and quite dead!

Actually its NOT ON HOLD because they have never started anything there..

Oasis Beach Hotel was removed and the site was cleaned, thats all.

So I think its still PROPOSED , what do you think? :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-40E03eMSXg

^^
Al Fattan on beach have put up boards advertising they are building a new development, with photos.
Looks nice and better than other design although means years of building right in front of Bay Central.

http://i41.tinypic.com/111030n.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/33nu7gj.jpg

Created a new thread for the Crystal Towers and this thread moved to 'Never Build'

Add that to the looooooong list

Some mistake with the title here..

Corrected :cheers: