A tower proposed in front of al fattan towers in Dubai Marina. Imre mentioned this as a rumour a few weeks ago.

http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/cranesetcphotos/obh.jpg



You can see the old hotel here:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Dubai_Marina_Skyline_on_16_April_2007.jpg/800px-Dubai_Marina_Skyline_on_16_April_2007.jpg

:eek:

I think this tower is an example of "too much of a good thing." I see congested roads in the picture and limited beach front. How does adding this huge building, which blocks the view of the two most pleasing towers in the neighborhood and which places a strain on overburdened infrastructure, make sense?

^^ It doesn't, they're just greedy bastards and if destroying the area means more $ then it'll be done

Great tower but wrong location! I say put that tower in Business Bay!

This is a sweet looking tower. What's with the sheiks face on the tower? Is there supposed to be a large TV display near the top?

lol no, they just put giant posters with their faces, dunno what that is about...

reminds me on the 2nd Infinity tower ( never build )

lol no, they just put giant posters with their faces, dunno what that is about...

The owner (General Al Fattan) is a old and very close friend of Sheik Mohamed.

lol if built.. imagine the site in 5-10 years with Al burj in the picture ... DAMN!

The fact is that the existing Oasis Beach Hotel on the plot, will close for demolishing by September 1st, 2008.

Wonderful building,but wrong place......it is too close to the beach and block
the view from other buildings :bash:

yes, agree. the view to the sea from the al fattan towers will be blocked

I have an Idea... why dont they just put it on Man Made island like Burj Al Arab, wont block a lot of view and increases the hotel's reputation ;)

good idea, really!

but i would prefer this design for it:

http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/project/uploaded_files/154_385%20Dubai%20B08_black+gold.jpg

good idea, really!

but i would prefer this design for it:

http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/project/uploaded_files/154_385%20Dubai%20B08_black+gold.jpg

Yes, please.

I loooove that design. I'd be pissed if it never gets built.

^^This tower would screw the whole area... Would block the central masterpiece twins of JBR, would stand out in front of all the buildings in the are and... No, wrong location... The design looks quite good, but please build it somewhere else...

Awesome design. One of those mind-bogglind renders you hope will turn out as good in reality.

And whats with the negativity. This location is awesome. it'll stand out like a flagship in front of JBR and make the skyline much more alive.

As for congestion/too high/not enough view/not enough beach/not enough whatever: the benefits of this tower far outweighs the prices imho!

Geez, another Dubai Mega Building! WHAT'S UP WITH THAT?!? Can they every STOP!?! OK, stop with this nonsense. I think the ruler of Dubai and his family and blood are all MEGALOMANIACS!!! Which is a very good thing because most of the famous people in the world including Alexander the Great, Napoleon Bonaparte and Genghis Khan are all Megalomaniacs! We need these kind of people these days.

...Which is good for us Skyscraper lovers... It does really look out of place though, this really must be an afterthought, much to the distraught of the urban planners of JBR.

Believe this first, if some serious releases about it!!!! :hm:

seriously, build it in front of those ugly ass brown things with small windows

Nice design, but I also think it's bad placement. Looks out of place.

^^i agree the location is wrong but still a pretty tower :okay:

i like the look of the tower but please change the location.

The tower is very elegant but as we all agree the location will ruin the beach around it and people wont be able to tan lol.

The tower is too tall for that area, it would ruin it. they just need smaller, shorter resorts in the front there.

What?:banana: Other proyect for Dubai:cheers:

Not sure I like the design. A bit wacky.

its a matter of time until Dubai reaches the top list of skylines on Emporis :)

Nice tower, should be built somewhere else.

new design i think:

http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/project/uploaded_files/154_385%20Dubai%20B08_black+gold.jpg

^^ That's really old. I think it was a proposal for infinity tower

but the design was absolutely cool :)

^^ That's really old. I think it was a proposal for infinity tower

Idd so whats the status... vision?
I think it will never be built.
Or some miracle a approval, but its quied for to long on this project.

I don't know if we should construct this tower since it blocks views from the Al Fattan Towers. Let's build this tower elsewhere in Dubai.

Idd so whats the status... vision?
I think it will never be built.
Or some miracle a approval, but its quied for to long on this project.

the status is already Never Build. but stay on topic, that render is a total different project

reminds me very much of aqua of Chicago.

Only the balconies change in angle vertically.

How tall in meters?

no height has been released yet ^^

What a ridiculous location. The design ain't very beautiful either, rather awkward.

Move it to the tallest block

...not on this location!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They've started demolishing the existing building.
http://www.constructionweekonline.com/article-3734-super_tall_tower_could_replace_oasis_beach_hotel/

The design itself it good, BUT the location couldn´t be worse. Put it somewhere near the Anara tower, in approximation to the tallest block!

Are they really going to build this on that spot!? Why in front of the 2 Al Fattan Towers!!! That's the worst thing they could do...

... to themselves. ;)

Strange design, and a rather odd location for it.

How many times do I have to say that the location is just terrible! As I said last year... make an Island for this tower like Burj Al Arab and put it there... basically a bridge extending into the water with the tower on the island. Would be much better, both as location and reputation!

Are any of these guys reading this site? If so please take our advice!

new design i think:

http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/project/uploaded_files/154_385%20Dubai%20B08_black+gold.jpg

lol, the building in the background to the left looks better than the building proposed

thats bad marketing to have such a nice rendering of another building in the background that takes most all the attention from the proposed project

That design is so unique, and I love it... but, I agree it doesn't fit the background. This type of building belongs to an area that doesn't have anything around it. It looks like a sculpture; imagine it in a museum: Nothing would fit properly around it, except a blank negative-space background.

Rumoured new design and 106 floors tall



http://jbrcommunity.com/download/file.php?id=61

looks really good and better than the old design ...

Splendid!

new design i think:

http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/project/uploaded_files/154_385%20Dubai%20B08_black+gold.jpg

i hope this one going to build.

This one will spoil the whole beach there. Agree with an BAA like setting on an island. Already the 40 Floor JBR looks like a "Berlin Wall"...
If this one goes ahead other will follow. Look at the Ritz-Carlton beautiful setting and very nice, though low-rise, building.

I'm sure there is more room between the JBR towers and the beachfront than one would think but I wonder if this tower has a similar footprint compared to the hotel that is being demolished?

Is there any chance they could build this and extend a portion of the beach out further to give the coastline more space?

Dubai can shape islands - I'm sure they could adjust a beachfront if they really wanted.

The image above of the newest design is pretty close to the water though so guess that's how they want it done. I'll chime in and also agree that it seems like it is too big for such a congested area. Decent building but wrong place! It would seem that something so much larger than any of those JBR towers needs a peninsula or some seperation from the rest of the development.

Every other major development seems to have some space between it and the rest of the towers and whether there are trees or a canal or something, there is a distinct barrier to seperate things. This seems to have none.

It might be obvious but are they tearing down the cream tan-colored hotel right in front of the Al Fattan towers or that T-shaped blue-glassed one that's a little further down the coast? Sometimes the images and renders are approximations so as stupid as it is to ask, I'm curious.

I like the building. And since I'm not living behind it, there nothing wrong with the location. I'm sure the towers behind it blocked someone else view, now it's being done to them isn't life a bitch.

Rumoured new design and 106 floors tall

Hot diggity, that looks pretty tall.

Not bad, but old one looks better to me...:)

new design kind of looks like Hong Kong ICC

Nice tower! A supertall again in Dubai?

They simply can't get enough of the Burj Dubai, aren't they?

I like the new one better, and I do not believe it will block much of the seaview.

^^ The biggest problem is that in that area are only mid rises hotels. If this goes, what guaranties that the other hotels will not also replaced by supertall towers? And then is also an area free in front of the tallest block, at the other side of the Marina canal entrances, more place for supertalls there as well (now are hotels and yacht clubs)

If this chain of event starts to happen, it will piss off allot of people.

Meh.... what can you do. Reclaim more seaside land :D.

No, jokes aside, I guess there will need to be some kind of protection from the social side, planning authorities etc. It is a legitimate concern. There are plenty of other good locations in Dubai that are planned for development though.

beautiful:)

So which one is new design ???

^^ Post 52

^^And 106 floors tall?? !!! :hm:

Than we should edit the title !!

Another stupid and senseless proposal for Dubai. I know, lets build a huge 90 storey building right on the beach spoiling everyone elses view behind when we've got all the space in the world. Atrocious urban design and sums up everything that is bad about the excesses of the Dubai building boom, unsustainable, unneccessary and completely ill considered. I'm looking forward to the spectacular crash when all this nonsense comes to an undignified halt.

^^ And a big part of the ones who will loose from that will be your fellow Brits, which in return will start defaulting the locally taken loans which will slow the recovery from the crisis which will effect your life as well. :tongue2:

^^ And the majority of the ones who will loose from that will be your fellow Brits.

We are already losing in the UK with the recession and a falling housing market, I doubt a few thousand Brits getting their fingers burnt in Dubai will make a jot of difference. Loads of Brits have already lost a great deal with the crash in the Spanish housing market, especially those who thought they could buy off plan and make a quick buck. The same will happen for those who invested at the top of the market in Dubai. A fool and their money are easily parted.

which in return will start defaulting the locally taken loans which will slow the recovery from the crisis which will effect your life as well. :tongue2:

A few Brits defaulting on loans in Dubai won't effect my life at all, no more than it is being affected already. You should be more concerned about what your life will be like in Dubai when there are hundreds of empty (and crap) apartment blocks being sold for peanuts. What will happen then?

^^ I would be able to afford one :tongue2:

I'm looking forward to the spectacular crash when all this nonsense comes to an undignified halt.

I don't wish a crash on anyone, but I will say that too much of the Dubai property boom was built on the money of speculators rather than good demographic fundamentals. Relying on speculators to maintain growth is wreckless and can result in extreme boom and bust cycles. I agree with the comment from the former Emaar CEO below.

Source: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jc5Q3p7GaxwmA6-CxeHm-PzA13pQD9430HHO1



Richard Rodriguez, the former CEO of the Dubai division of Emaar Properties, the builder of the world's tallest building and one of Dubai's biggest developers, said too many builders in the emirate have focused on return-seeking investors — rather than people looking for homes to live in.

"Some of those heightened, frenzied launches — with all the developers — took on the characteristics of pyramid schemes. If you got in early, you were guaranteed to make money," he said.

"The developers that will survive are the ones who can market and sell to the end user," he said. "And that hasn't existed in Dubai so far."

^^ I would be able to afford one :tongue2:

Haha...good answer.:)

^^ Well, I already said the I object to the location and the precedences it will create, my problem was more with the overall tone of your post. ;)

Richard Rodriguez, the former CEO of the Dubai division of Emaar Properties, the builder of the world's tallest building and one of Dubai's biggest developers, said too many builders in the emirate have focused on return-seeking investors — rather than people looking for homes to live in.

A crash waiting to happen, the legacy of which will be a load of crap apartments that nobody in their right mind would want to live in for more than 6 months. You can see swaithes of them going up already, substandard and designed to suck in the foolish investor from wherever who has already missed getting in at the right time. Much of Dubai is a big scam, I saw some development being advertised in the paper here recently.....guaranteed 50% capital return....:rofl:

If it sounds too good to be true......

^^ Ok, show us some of decent standarts that are comming up in your country. Better, stop trolling a get the heck out of the thread.

This thread isn't about the UK, its about the insanity of Dubai. I'm not trolling, just adding a dose of realism to your tower wankfest.

I like the height for sure :) Im not sure if I like the design that much..

the black and gold are so nice... man i dont look too much about the height.. but the design for sure.. some of the building just have height but the design of them are just a creap... and some others dont have a height but for sure makes the skyline of the city goes well

This is the design!

http://jbrcommunity.com/download/file.php?id=61

looks quite massive

i like both designs. just not on the beach. :ohno:

like the first one better :(

106 floors high """ :okay:

http://i38.************/2upr2h2.jpg

It seems made by wet paper

15/February/2009

Burj Al Fattan ( aka Oasis Beach Hotel)

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/4546/imresolt68wa6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/7901/imresolt69pm6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/9463/imresolt70no6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/5425/imresolt71fx8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

This is the design!

http://jbrcommunity.com/download/file.php?id=61

this reminds me
of Kohn Pedersen's
GT Int'l Tower in
Makati.

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It seems made by wet paper

Paper masha looks very cheap. And those builds do look a alot alike.

Tearing down the old Oasis beach hotel seems to take quite a while. Looks like building is faster than demolishing in Dubai...

Yip we have a real problem knocking things down, the pearl was a disaster and the onlky thing they goit right so far was the old Hilton at Trade centre.

this has beene going on for so long its crazy, could have imploded in 1 day and cleaned up for 4 and be way ahead of program but we dont implode in Dubai (or Abu Dhabi) we knock it down in a very unsafe manner

I think it is because everything is very over-dimensioned with lots of concrete and steel.. Easy to construct, difficult to demolish.

^^A load of TNT would certainly do the job:) But its too dangerous for the surroundings i suppose.

25/February/2009

Dubai Marina

Burj Al Fattan (aka Oasis Beach Hotel)

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1523/imresolt097.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9339/imresolt098.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

By 12/12/12 they will done with the demolishing process. :nuts:

Ah so it is the hotel with the slanting edge toward the beach that they are demolishing. I like how it helped the eye move down from the towers into the waterfront as opposed to what seems to be going there.

AltinD, do you know how old that beach hotel was? It didn't seem like very old construction at all. Do you locals consider (or considered) it to be a "bad" architectural project? It just seemed like a decent lower height hotel that got bought out to build something larger there.

" DUBAI | Burj Al Fattan | 966 fl | Demo "

What a monster mit almost 1000 floors :lol::lol::lol::lol: :D:D:D:D


Article :

http://www.cnplus.co.uk/news/middle-east/bids-in-for-dubais-burj-al-fattan/1994755.article

Bids in for Dubai's Burj al-Fattan
6 March, 2009

The local Al-Fattan Properties has received bids from at least two groups for its Burj al-Fattan project at Dubai Marina.


The bidders include the joint venture of the local Al-Habtoor Engineering Enterprises with South Africa’s Murray & Roberts Contractors (Middle East), and the local Arabtec Construction.

The scheme involves the construction of a 96-floor mixed-use tower on the site of the old Oasis Beach hotel (MEED 16:2:09).

UK-based Mace International is the project manager.

In 2006, Arabtec completed the Al-Fattan Marine Towers in the same area for the same client.

Dubai-based property developer Fortune Group has invited companies to submit bids by late March for the contract to build a 501-metre-high tower in Dubai. The high-rise project is called the Burj al-Alam.

WOW !!! Impressive pics of demolition. Poor old building...

The design is just beautiful, so cool for the city !

Demolition seems to have picked up a bit.

Compare April 14th

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3565/3432378427_359836d6cb_b.jpg


to April 10th

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3080/3424445296_52b4b9bd4b_b.jpg

Cancelled.

Cancelled.

how would u know that?

^^ He actually has contacts with the developer, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was true.

Let's hope at the end they would build a new hotel with at least the same number of rooms as the one demolished. That location was bad for a supertall anyway.

I suppose thats one way to increase occupancy. ;)

20/May/2009

Burj Al Fattan

http://i44.************/2vjv7rs.jpg

http://i40.************/xyjhg.jpg

http://i43.************/4iohl1.jpg

I suppose thats one way to increase occupancy.

16/June/2009

Burj Al Fattan

http://i44.************/4hbghh.jpg

http://i42.************/akbqs2.jpg

463m

Burj Al Fattan Tower

Client: All Fattan Properties


Architect: LWD Architects

Consultant: Hyder Consulting Middle East Ltd

Location: Dubai, UAE


DNEC role: Engaged with Hyder Consulting Middle East Ltd to

prepare Concept and Preliminary design.


Duration: June 2008 - Dec, 2008, DNEC - Belgrade, Serbia


Status: Tender stage


Composite Steel/Reinforced concrete tower structure. Mixed use high-rise development of 97 storeys. Total height 463m. Four underground parking levels. High strength concrete up to 100MPa cylinder strength utilized.

http://dnec-srb.com/index.php?page_id=230

it's absolutely incredible that this giant building will be on a beach :nuts:

I love it!

Status: Tender stage

What?

463m
Please edit title !!

http://dnec-srb.com/files/Image/pentominium_pic/DX00637-Burj-Alfattan-11.jpg

Awesome Imre, thanks a lot !

that website says 97 storeys, please add 3 more to have a 100 floors .

100 looks better than 97 :)

that website says 97 storeys, please add 3 more to have a 100 floors .

100 looks better than 97 :)


I agree. I nice 100 floor button to push at the elevator!!! :banana:
Actually, I was hoping it could be like 120 stories at maybe between 500 and 600 meters in height.

from Bizzy

Al-Fattan Dubai Marine Tower

Client: Al-Fattan Properties

Estimated Value: 150m USD

Consultants: Main Consultant: Mace International (Project Manager)

Project Type: Mixed Use

Project Duration:

From: Q2 2009 Estimated
To: Q2 2012 Estimated

Status: Tender for Construction Contract

Scope: The project calls for construction of a 96-storey luxury tower on the site of the old Oasis Beach Hotel, in Dubai Marine. The tower will be the tallest tower in Dubai Marina.

Schedule: Al-Fattan Properties had invited the bidders to submit the bids. The deadline for bids submitting for the main construction contract is 31st of January 2009. The prospective bidders include the joint venture of the local Al-Habtoor Engineering Enterprises with Murray & Roberts Contractors (Middle East), Alec, Arabian Construction Company (ACC), Arabtec Construction, and Multiplex.

PLEASE CHANGE THE TITLE !!!!!!!!


:bash: :bash: :bash:

I know I might have said it before but that old hotel didn't even seen outdated or looked old at all... Strange for them to demolish a seemingly great hotel and put in a gargantuan tower at the beach's edge!

Well since this is going ahead now without any sign of being a proposal, thanks Imre for finding out the designs and information about it!

PLEASE CHANGE THE TITLE !!!!!!!!


:bash: :bash: :bash:

yes, i think demo has finished :)

Do we have some designs of this tower?

yes, i think demo has finished :)

Excellant! I can't wait for construction to actually start for real.:cheers:

But it won't be the tallest on the Marina, like they said. Did they consider The Pentominium? 463m is very tall, but 618m is much taller.

Please built not that height at the Beach, it blocks every views.

The old Design-Render has the Power to be an Megatall 600+ and was very ***.

The new Render is tooo big, a cheap Copy of the Iconic Landmark Emirates Twin Towers.

But built it in the Marina Tallest Block, in Business Bay, in Dubai Waterfront new Downtown or Dubailand Hotel Strip. That makes Sense, but not at the Beach......

Either way, can somebody get a picture of the site. Is it now under site prep?

Any updates? Did they start excavation or is it on-hold?

Two months ago (end of Nov) I doubt anything has happened ever since

http://i50.************/bh379.jpg

I think the Status of this project is misleading. It sounds like the tower itself is being demolished. Should we change the status to Proposed?

PS: I was there at the beginning of January and I didn't see any progress in that area. The building has been demolished already, but no activity.

Any news? ON HOLD?

The redesign .... slightly, just slightly smaller :D




http://i41.************/33nu7gj.jpg

< 40 floors. so should we move it to skyscraper section?

Now this is what i call a brilliant redesign. Thousand times better then the previous fugly tower. If the cladding is top notch then these ones will be jewels.

BUILD THEM!!!!

These would be great looking next to the al Fattan towers.

yup this design is good but as told it would block the view of other beautiful towers.........and also check the place, how congested it is..the builders i guess only considered about the presence, not about its beauty and view....

The two towers at the back (Al Fattan Marine Towers, that are also much taller) belong to the same owner as these two.

woooo love the buildings near coastline

The quality of the renders is not good, but these towers look good.

I have designed a set of twins that look almost exactly like this new render. These look good, though.
Nice to see that this won't end up being a parking lot. ;)