View Full Version : WARSAW | Warsaw Spire | 220m | 721ft | 49 fl | Prep


Cracovia
March 19th, 2008, 12:26 AM
Floors= 50fl
Height to roof= 200m
Investor= Ghelamco
Architechts= Jaspers Eyers & Partners
Purpose= Offices, services and Retail
Office space= 100 000m2 (40 000m2 in adjacent buildings)
Stage= Building approved and has building conditions currently waiting on construction permit.
Start date- 2008/2009
Completion date- 2011



This is an article from Warsaw Voice
Ghelamco Poland plans to build the Warsaw Spire office tower between Towarowa and Wronia streets in the center of the Polish capital. The structure will be 220 meters high, including the spire. Designed by renowned architects Jaspers Eyers & Partners, the tower will have a soft, oval shape and the glass facade will form a subtle arch, giving the impression of wings at the top of the building.

The Warsaw Spire will have 50 floors holding 60,000 sq m of top-class office space, surrounded by a small park with a pond. The building will feature a high-quality finish and an underground garage for 1,500 cars. It will stand next to the Hilton Hotel on a plot of more than two hectares.

Ghelamco Poland plans to begin construction of the Warsaw Spire this year and complete it by the end of 2011.

Cracovia
March 19th, 2008, 12:28 AM
As you mayh have realised this is the former Art Park developement but was rejected by the town so Ghelamco changed their conception ect.. These are the onlyh renders we have so far but there will be an official presentation of the project very soon..
http://www.urbanity.pl/photos/99/77/9977.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2181/2335077636_6ef84d7ff4_o.jpg

Mr. Karatchan
March 19th, 2008, 12:36 AM
Beautiful penis...

Hed_Kandi
March 19th, 2008, 12:41 AM
Bahahaha :cheers:

ElVoltageDR
March 19th, 2008, 12:47 AM
I like it.

TOB1AS
March 19th, 2008, 12:50 AM
Wow, another one for Warzaw! Go Poland!

OMH
March 19th, 2008, 01:04 AM
Looks very interesting,though its a unusual design too,i think i like Lillium and Zlota 44 more,though it'll only add to Warsaw's skyline wich will be really impressive by 2012 (when all those new towers,-Lillium,Kulczyk,Zlota 44,Jewish community tower and this will be topped out.)
IMO Warszawa will be 3rd place in Europe in 2012 ,after Moscow and Paris and sharing the 3rd place with Frankfurt.
Warsaw 2012 SSP diagram:
http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?35549824

Cracovia
March 19th, 2008, 01:58 AM
I think its a bit asian.... though i like it..the other project for Art park developement before must have been terrible seeing as the town ordered them to change the whole developement. Next to it Ghelamco want to build another tower in the Region of 160m

karejeeta
March 19th, 2008, 02:52 AM
I love the new tower.

RaKLeZ
March 19th, 2008, 03:36 AM
I don`t like it tbh... but the height is good...

and Cracovia, change the thread`s name to...

Warsaw | Warsaw Spire | 220m | 50 fl | App

:)

Second City
March 19th, 2008, 07:47 AM
Awesome news!

Adiks
March 19th, 2008, 12:53 PM
I don`t like it tbh... but the height is good...

and Cracovia, change the thread`s name to...

Warsaw | Warsaw Spire | 220m | 50 fl | App

:)

Rather WARSAW | Warsaw Spire | 220M | 50 fl | APP

Ekumenopolis
March 19th, 2008, 01:13 PM
Very interesting desing, it's not the typical spire. Will it fit in Warsaw?

Cracovia
March 20th, 2008, 04:27 PM
Well the design is quite innovative though many people on the polish forums dont really like it...the one thing that bugs me is there is no ground building its just a tower growing strait from the grass

warpus
March 20th, 2008, 04:56 PM
Well the design is quite innovative though many people on the polish forums dont really like it...the one thing that bugs me is there is no ground building its just a tower growing strait from the grass

What's so bad about that? I prefer it myself :)

TwItCH
March 20th, 2008, 10:43 PM
the bottom is fine, I don't like the top.

phillybud
March 21st, 2008, 01:02 AM
Beautiful penis...

it doesn't look like a penis to me ... well ... maybe a wee bit like an uncircumcised one ... :lol:

Iluminat
March 21st, 2008, 01:30 AM
rotten penis

Cracovia
March 21st, 2008, 02:29 AM
guys im a little worried if ure dicks look like that....maybe u should see a Andrologist soon

ZZ-II
March 21st, 2008, 02:34 AM
nice design, but looks too small for my taste :)

Mr. Karatchan
March 21st, 2008, 03:01 AM
...

Paul
April 17th, 2008, 09:19 PM
new rendering:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v518/obserwator/ws.jpg

and the logo:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v518/obserwator/ws2.jpg

The website will be available within a few days. I hope :D

Second City
April 17th, 2008, 10:47 PM
Nice!!
:dance:

madridhere
April 17th, 2008, 11:21 PM
Very nice, I love it.

Sbz2ifc
April 17th, 2008, 11:27 PM
This is one of the ugliest proposals for Warsaw. I really dislike the "crown" (or whatever it is).

Cracovia
April 17th, 2008, 11:29 PM
This is one of the ugliest proposals for Warsaw. I really dislike the "crown" (or whatever it is).

its not a proposal mate they are currently waiting on a construction permit and plan to start construction this year so it will happen...to be honest i strangley like it because its quite unique

Sbz2ifc
April 18th, 2008, 03:22 AM
OK, ok... it's one of the ugliest projects.

The first two thirds are decent but if you take a look at the whole building... it's just too dubaish.

Cracovia
April 18th, 2008, 06:12 PM
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/146/414610094_c4e9d16ffb_o.jpg
^^Preparations underway :banana: They are also planning a second 160m resi tower close by to be completed later

MasonicStage™
April 18th, 2008, 06:18 PM
i really like the design. :cheers:

Rafal.Druzkowski
April 19th, 2008, 07:47 PM
It looks a bit like "Burj Al Alam" in Dubai. Classy project for Warsaw :cheers:

Hyper
April 21st, 2008, 04:13 PM
Beautiful penis...

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I think the new render shows us a much better project, than the old one.

Iluminat
April 21st, 2008, 04:19 PM
OK, ok... it's one of the ugliest projects.

The first two thirds are decent but if you take a look at the whole building... it's just too dubaish.

It's even worse then Zaha's cactus :ohno:

Sbz2ifc
April 22nd, 2008, 01:56 AM
^^ Well, I actually like Zaha's cactus. :D

Nneznajka
April 22nd, 2008, 07:31 PM
Варшава параша ! Победа будит наша ! :cheers:
:dance:

Paul
April 22nd, 2008, 08:38 PM
Варшава параша ! Победа будит наша ! :cheers:


English please!

NorthPole
April 23rd, 2008, 10:04 PM
Варшава параша ! Победа будит наша ! :cheers:
:dance:English please!"Warsaw bog/rumour! Victory will be ours!" :sly:

ØlandDK
April 23rd, 2008, 10:10 PM
Looks interesting in the new rendering!:yes:

Cracovia
April 24th, 2008, 01:10 AM
"Warsaw bog/rumour! Victory will be ours!" :sly:

what a wierd guy :nuts::nuts:
to put into perspective this is the area the tower is going to be be built in...please note that this was done when we thought the tower would be only 180m to the roof...also behind the hilton you have the residential phase of platinum towers u/c 2x 22fl and a 167m office tower in the complex...A few more highrises are u/c and planned in the area but most are under 150m
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3206/a0ceou2.jpg
^^thanks to darhet

alsen strasse 67
May 4th, 2008, 08:04 PM
Great news :banana::
Warsaw Spire, Warsaw, Poland
Thursday 01 May 2008

Warsaw Spire gets go ahead

Jaspers Eyers & Partners


220m tall tower for Polish capital


Polish developers Ghelamco have had approval to build a 220m tall tower in the centre of the Polish capital. The tower named the Warsaw Spire is designed by Belgian architects, Jaspers Eyers & Partners. Oval in shape, the tower will sport a curvaceous look. A glass façade wraps itself around the tower almost like a cloak that flares out slightly from the tower at the peak. Down the centre of the towers front balconies protrude, breaking what would otherwise be a sheer shape. A large spire will sit at the top, giving it its name.

The tower will provided 60,000 sq m of office space, as well as a wide range of amenities including cafes, restaurants, an entire shop dedicated to wine for those liquid business lunches and of course shops. Ghelamco Poland plans to begin construction of the Warsaw Spire this year and complete it by the end of 2011.

Jo Livesey


Źródło: http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/index.php?fuseaction=wanappln.projectview&upload_id=2232

Ja sie ciesze:)

Paul
May 4th, 2008, 09:40 PM
"Warsaw bog/rumour! Victory will be ours!" :sly:

:drool:

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3206/a0ceou2.jpg


professionally as usual... :bash:

Great news :banana::

:cheers:

Cracovia
May 4th, 2008, 11:45 PM
:drool:
professionally as usual... :bash:


whats wrong with it

Darhet
May 21st, 2008, 05:46 AM
Polish developers Ghelamco Poland have had plans to build a 220m tall skyscraper finally approved by the powers that be called the Warsaw Spire.

Originally to be the Art Park development the original proposal was refused for various reasons but with a few revisions to the plans the new project named the Warsaw Spire should be springing forth from the ground sometime this year.

Located in the centre of the Polish capital the tower is designed by renowned architects Jaspers Eyers & Partners, who are Belgian but can be forgiven for that seeing as the design of the tower is rather nice.

Oval in shape, the tower will sport a curvaceous look. A glass façade wraps itself around the tower almost like a cloak that flares out slightly from the tower at the peak. Down the centre of the towers front balconies protrude breaking what would otherwise be a sheer shape. At its top of course will sit a rather sizeable spire, hence its name.

The tower will provided 60,000 square m of top-class office space, as well as a wide range of amenities including cafes, restaurants, an entire shop dedicated to wine for those liquid business lunches and of course shops.

Outside the tower a small park with a pond will surround the tower giving ample space to go for a wander and relax in, greenery also features on the ground floor for those who don�t want to walk all that far.

The building will also have an underground garage for 1,500 cars. Its location puts it next to many of the important financial institutions in the city and handy for visiting business men it's next door neighbour will be the Hilton Hotel, though other hotels are available for those who have slightly stingy bosses.

All being well the tower should be complete somewhere in 2011.

Kaski
May 21st, 2008, 06:14 PM
whats wrong with it

I guess, he was sarcastic.

Ring
May 21st, 2008, 09:12 PM
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3206/a0ceou2.jpg
professionally as usual... :bash:

whats wrong with it

I guess, he was sarcastic.

No, he was not :) It should look more or less like this:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a212/ringu-pl/wwww22222.jpg

Cracovia
May 22nd, 2008, 06:18 PM
well it still shows that in the future this street will rival Emili Plater in terms of skyscrapers and should look amazing... We just have to wait for the official presentation and the timetable and it can start..

Darhet
November 8th, 2008, 09:58 PM
http://images50.fotosik.pl/23/1cfbfa2e3a4a78b7.jpg

http://images29.fotosik.pl/287/c5bdd0dfa14eeb0f.jpg

http://images29.fotosik.pl/287/72f891853d9a7a41.jpg

haxman
June 3rd, 2009, 11:22 PM
Anything new about the Spire?;)

pixel2008
June 4th, 2009, 08:37 AM
I would rather see Zlota Tower going up. This one looks nice, though.

Ni3lS
June 4th, 2009, 10:44 AM
It's not U/C yet so this thread needs to be moved to the proposed skyscrapers section..

sieradzanin1
October 19th, 2009, 11:49 AM
Tego chyba jeszcze nie było:

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/6357/warsawspire.png (http://img8.imageshack.us/i/warsawspire.png/)
:)

potipoti
October 19th, 2009, 01:19 PM
did they approved it??? fantastic design...

Dzwonsson
October 19th, 2009, 01:36 PM
I hope it's kind of joke only and I propose to set this building somewhere in Asia, capital of Poland deserves much more than just corny architecture, especially near the downtown. I'm convinced classical or simple design would match just better in that area.

Elvenking
December 11th, 2009, 12:08 AM
A bit reworked visualisation.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2760/4166908824_c6e82cd735.jpg

I still don't like it. Doesn't fit city, feels somehow Asian. But maybe it's matter of taste.

Sponsor
December 11th, 2009, 12:11 AM
Warsaw need cubes in my opinion. This is just ugly for me...

Middle-Island
December 11th, 2009, 07:31 AM
It does at first look seem more like a design for Kuwait City or Doha...but it could still work.

EDIT: There's been nothing of news on this for over a year...I forgot to look at the previous post dates. Too many of these threads clutter up the board. :ohno:

skyscraper100
December 11th, 2009, 11:15 AM
its good, but the name doesnt fit the design

Elvenking
December 11th, 2009, 02:26 PM
It does at first look seem more like a design for Kuwait City or Doha...but it could still work.

EDIT: There's been nothing of news on this for over a year...I forgot to look at the previous post dates. Too many of these threads clutter up the board. :ohno:

There are a lot of news about new towers in Warsaw, there is real skyscraper boom in Warsaw, and these are not only empty declarations, but real dates and permissions from city council. Next year will change many things Hines Tower [160m] starts, maybe Zlota44 [192m] will be resumed, propably also this ugly penis will start (but I still hope it won't). And remember it's "proposed skyscrapers" section.

Locke
December 11th, 2009, 04:49 PM
This tower looks great, some of you guys are a getting a little too boxy-obsessed. I mean sure Warsaw has a certain understated boxy Euro style look, but this is still reasonably conservative, a curve here or there won't hurt to break things up a bit!

I think this will look fantastic, love the white accents and the glass looks quality.

Petr
March 17th, 2010, 07:25 PM
new visualisations

they already have valid permission, and beginning of the construction is planned for this year

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/0/7670/z7670900X,Makieta-Warsaw-Spire-podczas-targow-w-Cannes.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/0/7672/z7672100X,Makieta-Warsaw-Spire-podczas-targow-w-Cannes.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/2/7672/z7672312X,Widok-w-nocy-na-kompleks-biurowcow-na-Woli.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/0/7672/z7672330X,Wizualizacja-Warsaw-Spire.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/3/7672/z7672333X,Przed-Warsaw-Spire-ma-powstac-duzy-publiczny-plac.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/8/7672/z7672328X,Widok-z-gory-na-kompleks-biurowcow-Warsaw-Spire.jpg

Sylver
March 18th, 2010, 12:10 AM
http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/0/7672/z7672330X,Wizualizacja-Warsaw-Spire.jpg

What is that tower next to Spire? Btw the first post should be updated to the new pics

LoveAgent.
March 18th, 2010, 12:19 AM
http://grafik.rp.pl/grafika_zw/457748,239663,9.jpg

http://m.onet.pl/_m/4694be0b8fb64a8bb533caa817878456,34,1.jpg

http://m.onet.pl/_m/eb481c8302aa16fccb7c3b6bd5d6852a,14,1.jpg

LoveAgent.
March 18th, 2010, 12:23 AM
What is that tower next to Spire? Btw the first post should be updated to the new pics

^^
Preparations are underway :banana: They are also planning a second 160m resi tower close by to be completed later

velPaulus
March 18th, 2010, 07:43 PM
Excellent:) Warsaw Trade Tower won't stand alone

sieradzanin1
March 22nd, 2010, 12:08 PM
From Google Earth

Pobawiłem się pierwszy raz z tym google sketchupem. Mam nadzieję ze co najmniej trafiłem proporcje dosyć dobrze aby rozpoznać budniki :). Dodałem tez Hinesa z warszawa3d.

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/5567/spire1.jpg

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/2111/spire2.jpg

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/2858/spire4.jpg


I do porównania :okay::

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8164/spire3.jpghttp://bi.gazeta.pl/im/2/7672/z7672312X,Widok-w-nocy-na-kompleks-biurowcow-na-Woli.jpg

:lol:

maartens
March 22nd, 2010, 12:32 PM
Great project! I am not familiar with warsaw, so any help on the exact (google maps) location?
http://www.urbika.com/projects/view/1209-warsaw-spire

velPaulus
March 27th, 2010, 05:23 PM
Not so far west from the centre:) Just between Towarowa, Wronia, Łucka and Grzybowska streets (in Google Maps type 52.232504, 20.984359)

Atrium
March 28th, 2010, 03:28 AM
What a vulgar confusion of architectural equilibrium. If one monstrosity in the neighborhood was not enough, here come two more delinquents to keep it in repulsive company. Sorry to sound implicitly dramatic, though I really am a fan of Warsaw’s skyline and feel this project will do the city no imaginable service or justice.

To each their own I guess, wake me from my Warsaw slumber when Zlota 44 once again ascends towards the sky.

jjanna
March 28th, 2010, 10:52 AM
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theKrafty1tar
August 12th, 2010, 11:44 PM
Construction is scheduled to start this month!

sieradzanin1
August 13th, 2010, 10:25 AM
...

Widok z Prosta Tower:
http://a.imageshack.us/img696/1461/pt201008112.jpg

KaZantiP
August 14th, 2010, 10:30 AM
Its never get build?

velPaulus
August 14th, 2010, 04:56 PM
It is scheduled to start in the end of 2010 :)

lukaszek89
September 27th, 2010, 12:24 AM
something is going on :D
prosze bardzo 22.09.10 :)
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/1350/warszawa2010092023419.jpg (http://img841.imageshack.us/i/warszawa2010092023419.jpg/)

Z dzisiaj :)

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sielwolf
September 27th, 2010, 01:39 AM
fantastic set of photos. wooden fence from different angles.

krkseg1ops
September 28th, 2010, 04:39 AM
I love them too

Cracovia
September 28th, 2010, 04:58 AM
fantastic set of photos. wooden fence from different angles.

Not any wooden fence....an MDF wooden fence

Sponsor
September 28th, 2010, 07:39 AM
Thanks for sharing :okay:
2 pics woiuld be enough

dawayne
September 30th, 2010, 12:32 PM
New Visualizations

;64549051']http://www.ghelamco.pl/images/projects_poland_spire_09big.jpg


http://www.ghelamco.pl/images/projects_poland_spire_08big.jpg


http://www.ghelamco.pl/images/projects_poland_spire_07big.jpg


http://www.ghelamco.pl/images/projects_poland_spire_06big.jpg


http://www.ghelamco.pl/images/projects_poland_spire_05big.jpg


http://www.ghelamco.pl/images/projects_poland_spire_04big.jpg


http://www.ghelamco.pl/images/projects_poland_spire_03big.jpg


http://www.ghelamco.pl/images/projects_poland_spire_02big.jpg


http://www.ghelamco.pl/images/projects_poland_spire_01big.jpg

Deadeye Reloaded
October 2nd, 2010, 10:55 PM
^^Wow!!!:uh:

Manitopiaaa
October 2nd, 2010, 11:22 PM
Absolutely beautiful. Congrats Poland!

lukaszek89
October 3rd, 2010, 12:17 AM
fantastic set of photos. wooden fence from different angles.

I love them too

Not any wooden fence....an MDF wooden fence

Thanks for sharing :okay:
2 pics woiuld be enough
^^
Personally I think that this photos are much more interesting and give idea how it will look like than this usless posts

Locke
October 3rd, 2010, 12:49 AM
;64549051']Wizualki, Warsaw Spire, które udało mi się dziś wyciągnąć.

Dzięki wielkiej uprzejmości ArJ zuploadowane na imageshacka (BARDZO DZIĘKUJĘ :)!)


http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/7991/projectspolandspire01bi.jpg


http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/8244/projectspolandspire02bi.jpg


http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/1236/projectspolandspire03bi.jpg


http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/7861/projectspolandspire04bi.jpg


http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/6721/projectspolandspire05bi.jpg


http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/9782/projectspolandspire06bi.jpg


http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7234/projectspolandspire07bi.jpg


http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5807/projectspolandspire08bi.jpg


http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8378/projectspolandspire09bi.jpg

Terrific, now build it:)

KaZantiP
October 6th, 2010, 10:27 AM
Its prep?

sieradzanin1
November 18th, 2010, 12:36 PM
Its prep?

Yes , good news. They are slowly starting. He lasts the fragment of a few growing trees.



http://www.dive-away.pl/dopobrania/ws.jpg
i

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/5493/20101118094.jpg (http://img87.imageshack.us/i/20101118094.jpg/)

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Cracovia
November 18th, 2010, 09:44 PM
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/8639/issdc18306.jpg

^^Warsaw Trade Tower is about to get a shiney new partner ; ) btw WTT is 208m so WS will be slightly taller, it helps you imagine how it will look from a street view, I also think we can officially change it to PREP from APP

sieradzanin1
November 19th, 2010, 09:30 AM
by morris71


http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/8639/issdc18306.jpg (http://img823.imageshack.us/my.php?image=issdc18306.jpg)

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/347/issdc18315.jpg (http://img684.imageshack.us/my.php?image=issdc18315.jpg)

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/4209/issdc18319.jpg (http://img824.imageshack.us/my.php?image=issdc18319.jpg)

Belgrader
November 19th, 2010, 09:32 PM
Looks great. And it is even better that they are really going to build that. Bravo Warsaw. :cheers:

sieradzanin1
November 22nd, 2010, 02:50 PM
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3103/issdc18441.jpg

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/5655/issdc18453.jpg

Full Update by morris71 http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=67515609&postcount=1677

sieradzanin1
November 22nd, 2010, 02:51 PM
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4012/5195236174_0d86c37aa5_b.jpg
by db1874

sieradzanin1
December 10th, 2010, 02:38 PM
A few other visualisations :

Jeszcze kilka wizualek z płota :)

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/200/dsc03878.jpg (http://img560.imageshack.us/i/dsc03878.jpg/)

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http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4819/dsc03885r.jpg (http://img210.imageshack.us/i/dsc03885r.jpg/)

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http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4610/dsc038830.jpg (http://img210.imageshack.us/i/dsc038830.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/1196/dsc038870.jpg (http://img210.imageshack.us/i/dsc038870.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/3550/dsc03881l.jpg (http://img560.imageshack.us/i/dsc03881l.jpg/)

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sieradzanin1
December 29th, 2010, 10:44 AM
Project :

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/5401/sp1m.jpg
:cheers:

By kafarek

sieradzanin1
March 4th, 2011, 03:34 PM
Today

by Meet


http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/2981/ws1.jpg (http://img546.imageshack.us/i/ws1.jpg/)

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7729/ws2l.jpg (http://img215.imageshack.us/i/ws2l.jpg/)
:cheers:

sieradzanin1
March 4th, 2011, 03:40 PM
From SSC

The Warsaw Spire is characterised by an attractive and harmonious architecture. Although all facades largely consist of glass, the building has an original identity thanks to its architecture. The Warsaw Spire reaches a height of 180 metres (220 metres including antennas) and is flanked by two separate office buildings, each 55 metres high. A green inner area connects these office buildings with the 160 metre high Chopin Tower, a residential tower.

Warsaw Spire [220 m] & Chopin Tower [160 m]

http://www.openbuildings.com/buildings/warsaw-spire-profile-4959.html

http://czarnota.org/gallery/albums/2011/2011_02_25_-_001_-_Warszawa_ul_Towarowa_-_wizualizacja_Warsaw_Spire_-_zrodlo_internet.jpg

http://czarnota.org/gallery/albums/warszawa/zmiany/___Wola/Bellona/2010_03_17_-_004_-_Warszawa_ul_Towarowa_-_wizualizacja_Warsaw_Spire_-_zrodlo_internet.jpg

http://czarnota.org/gallery/albums/warszawa/zmiany/___Wola/Bellona/2010_03_17_-_002_-_Warszawa_ul_Towarowa_-_wizualizacja_Warsaw_Spire_-_zrodlo_internet.jpg

http://czarnota.org/gallery/albums/2011/2011_02_25_-_004_-_Warszawa_ul_Towarowa_-_wizualizacja_Warsaw_Spire_-_zrodlo_internet.jpg

http://czarnota.org/gallery/albums/2011/2011_02_25_-_005_-_Warszawa_ul_Towarowa_-_wizualizacja_Warsaw_Spire_-_zrodlo_internet.jpg

http://czarnota.org/gallery/albums/2011/2011_02_25_-_008_-_Warszawa_ul_Towarowa_-_wizualizacja_Warsaw_Spire_-_zrodlo_internet.jpg

http://czarnota.org/gallery/albums/warszawa/zmiany/___Wola/Bellona/2010_03_17_-_001_-_Warszawa_ul_Towarowa_-_wizualizacja_Warsaw_Spire_-_zrodlo_internet.jpg

http://czarnota.org/gallery/albums/2011/2011_02_25_-_006_-_Warszawa_ul_Towarowa_-_wizualizacja_Warsaw_Spire_-_zrodlo_internet.jpg

http://czarnota.org/gallery/albums/2011/2011_02_25_-_007_-_Warszawa_ul_Towarowa_-_wizualizacja_Warsaw_Spire_-_zrodlo_internet.jpg

Cracovia
March 16th, 2011, 12:51 AM
Ghelamco announced that construction will begin in April!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Woooop Wooo!!

JeV
May 25th, 2011, 05:51 PM
Today we have first confirmed movement on construction area.

Contractor of diaphragm walls is Soletanche Polska (http://www.soletanche.pl/). These are going to be 50 meters deep.



3..2..1..START

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7448/dsc07478f.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/7/dsc07478f.jpg/)

http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/7640/dsc07482h.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/851/dsc07482h.jpg/)

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/3880/dsc07481.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/855/dsc07481.jpg/)

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/5985/dsc07485d.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/838/dsc07485d.jpg/)

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/5918/dsc07486o.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/8/dsc07486o.jpg/)

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/1189/dsc07536k.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/823/dsc07536k.jpg/)

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/7118/dsc07532z.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/59/dsc07532z.jpg/)
:cheers:

JeV
May 25th, 2011, 10:00 PM
We can move it to proper section of forum as U/C :)

2rc1
May 25th, 2011, 10:07 PM
What about the other tall building shown in the complex? Are they gonna built them together or it will be left for the future?

JeV
May 26th, 2011, 06:47 AM
In the future.

patrykus
May 26th, 2011, 07:57 AM
We can move it to proper section of forum as U/C :)

We can't move it to the U/C until they start working on the foundations. But still, its great this one finally start construction and Warsaw will have finally some representation in Skyscrapers U/C forum :cheers:

JeV
May 28th, 2011, 06:40 PM
Actually it's 180m... it will probaby be moved to highrises ;)

patrykus
May 28th, 2011, 07:07 PM
Actually it's 180m... it will probaby be moved to highrises ;)

As long as it is 220 to the top of the spires it will stay here... hopefully ;)

tovan
May 28th, 2011, 08:48 PM
apparently the spires are antennas. in that case they don't count :(

patrykus
May 28th, 2011, 09:11 PM
^^ Is this confirmed anywhere? I read polish forums and nobody have mention it will have antennas instead of spires...

Victhor
May 28th, 2011, 09:41 PM
woooow!!! this tower is really great! congratulations for Warsaw!

JeV
May 31st, 2011, 10:45 AM
Currently official Ghelamco website says it's 220 so we have to wait for more details. In media it's still 180 or 220.

Current stage is going to take 8-9 months and the beginning of construction is officially announced. Building is to be fully completed by the half of 2014.

db1874
June 2nd, 2011, 09:40 AM
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/5282/img664531.jpg

Darhet
June 6th, 2011, 02:10 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v627/oral_b/IMGP1359.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v627/oral_b/IMGP1360.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v627/oral_b/IMGP1361.jpg
:cheers:

Darhet
June 6th, 2011, 02:11 AM
http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/8232/img79234419305.jpg

Hmm, w sumie nic się nie zmieniło od poprzedniego postu, ale akurat bylem w okolicy...

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/9657/dsc07908j.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/30/dsc07908j.jpg/)

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/8203/dsc07907.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/26/dsc07907.jpg/)

http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/8079/dsc07909k.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/861/dsc07909k.jpg/)
:)

http://www.ghelamco.pl/images/projects_poland_spire_06big.jpg

http://www.ghelamco.pl/images/projects_poland_spire_03big.jpg
Polex
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/1698/pano2resize.jpg

Lucky Luke
June 7th, 2011, 04:53 PM
Currently official Ghelamco website says it's 220 so we have to wait for more details. In media it's still 180 or 220.

Current stage is going to take 8-9 months and the beginning of construction is officially announced. Building is to be fully completed by the half of 2014.

It's officially 180 meters to the roof ( 49 floors ) and 220 meters with spire.

sieradzanin1
June 11th, 2011, 05:19 PM
Update

by Polex

Zaorali, więc teraz czas na siew
http://i54.tinypic.com/2wdrlt0.jpg

http://i56.tinypic.com/4ugmya.jpg

:)

sieradzanin1
June 17th, 2011, 05:14 PM
Today

by NeosWarszawa



https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-zWoBx_E8Xe0/TftHkX42xfI/AAAAAAAAA8c/qktgK12_71U/s900/S7300621.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-vCEn5L4JbFs/TftHnZZ4mmI/AAAAAAAAA8k/v54SdmF3Rb8/s900/S7300622.JPG

O właśnie to zdjęcie :(
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-xBTmQOEujiM/TftHoFB01gI/AAAAAAAAA88/JPBdulN47_4/s800/S7300623.JPG

Ale to już się udało :)

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-s7OtCCeaWoA/TftHsCy8N2I/AAAAAAAAA9E/YXLI6FMM4bc/s800/S7300625.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-OBsLQmgZ0iQ/TftHrnCmjdI/AAAAAAAAA8s/c-IokGg-aiM/s900/S7300624.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-yk1rLehQsF0/TftHsW4TsBI/AAAAAAAAA80/kMBot5Mr0Ek/s900/S7300629.JPG

:cheers:

Darhet
July 6th, 2011, 01:03 AM
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/3790/dsc1628g.jpg

kpsk
July 9th, 2011, 11:02 PM
It should be moved to U/C, shouldn't it?

Patrick Highrise
July 9th, 2011, 11:41 PM
no this is still prep! :)

Lucky Luke
July 10th, 2011, 06:06 PM
^^ diaphragm walls are U/C and that means that this project is now U/C

patrykus
July 10th, 2011, 07:18 PM
^^ Diaphgram walls doesn't count as U/C on this forum.

sieradzanin1
July 29th, 2011, 09:52 AM
by kafarek



http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/6702/dsc00591sj.jpg

RobertoBancrofth
July 31st, 2011, 05:55 AM
gostei

xJamaax
August 2nd, 2011, 12:12 AM
Nice!:cool:

dino2010
August 4th, 2011, 06:13 PM
This tower is under construction ! Why the theard is still in Proposed Skycrapers?

sieradzanin1
August 24th, 2011, 10:08 AM
Update :

by Hubi

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/4654/dsc2331o.jpg

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/8681/dsc2335f.jpg

http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/7020/dsc2341b.jpg

from http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=83138426&postcount=2854

sieradzanin1
August 24th, 2011, 10:10 AM
Update :

by michal1701

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6273/dsc08929c.jpg

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/6638/dsc08942t.jpg

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/5981/dsc08946h.jpg

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/4558/dsc08952f.jpg

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/6664/dsc09010r.jpg

from http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=83143488&postcount=2855

wholagun
November 29th, 2011, 02:35 AM
no updates since Aug? I know Zlota is nice and taking the lions share of attention but this is worth an update or two

patrykus
November 29th, 2011, 07:00 AM
^^ The updates in polish section are quite regular on this one. It just hasn't been much to show since they started digging only lately.


Here's the nice close up from 15.11.11:

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/9827/2011111510051320x990.jpg


Here's regular update from 20.11.11:

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/2546/dsc00650fp.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/717/dsc00650fp.jpg/)

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/9670/dsc00651pano.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/440/dsc00651pano.jpg/)

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/5105/dsc00653pano.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/444/dsc00653pano.jpg/)

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/7705/dsc00660r.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/710/dsc00660r.jpg/)

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/8279/dsc00671u.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/408/dsc00671u.jpg/)

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6677/dsc00668n.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/151/dsc00668n.jpg/)



And here's the overall site look from 26.11.11:

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/2801/img954721.jpg

firstlife
November 29th, 2011, 10:48 AM
well ... maybe a wee bit like an uncircumcised one .http://www.uklv.info/g.gif

Jex7844
November 29th, 2011, 01:39 PM
I wasn't aware of this polish project, and to be honest, I think it's great! Amazing design, important height, well done Poland. Once built, Warsaw spire & Zlota44 are going to make Warsaw' skyline look fantastic, it will definitely be part of the most impressive skylines in Europe.

Sid Vicious
November 29th, 2011, 03:04 PM
fantastic

Bassik
November 29th, 2011, 03:23 PM
Beautiful project!

singoone
November 29th, 2011, 09:13 PM
Very nice project!

rychlik
December 1st, 2011, 06:09 PM
I wasn't aware of this polish project, and to be honest, I think it's great! Amazing design, important height, well done Poland. Once built, Warsaw spire & Zlota44 are going to make Warsaw' skyline look fantastic, it will definitely be part of the most impressive skylines in Europe.

I agree with this :)

paujuu
December 2nd, 2011, 01:37 PM
this is one of the ugliest tower i've ever seen

patrykus
December 6th, 2011, 12:50 AM
Digging continues

by martm

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/6390/dsc01372y.jpg

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/2738/dsc01373v.jpg

patrykus
December 20th, 2011, 03:53 PM
by michal1701

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/7457/dsc00944j.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/72/dsc00944j.jpg/)

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/4396/dsc00916au.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/52/dsc00916au.jpg/)

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/238/dsc00914k.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/254/dsc00914k.jpg/)

http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/2060/dsc00912y.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/851/dsc00912y.jpg/)

http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/9884/dsc00907i.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/804/dsc00907i.jpg/)

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/1284/dsc00905n.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/824/dsc00905n.jpg/)

Kaski
December 22nd, 2011, 04:26 PM
this is one of the ugliest tower i've ever seen

Just for the record. It is not a tower. It is a hole in a ground, yet. We must wait :cheers:

filipu94
December 22nd, 2011, 11:02 PM
Just for the record. It is not a tower. It is a hole in a ground, yet. We must wait :cheers:

Yup. But the hole is getting bigger recently very fast, so maybe they will start soon/after winter.

Dancing Banana
December 24th, 2011, 04:18 AM
the design is nice, but the top is bad imo. doesnt fit the rest of the tower at all. but maybe its just the angle of the render. warsaw is booming :banana2:

Iluminat
December 25th, 2011, 12:48 AM
this is one of the ugliest tower i've ever seen

Well it is bad but we have some worse skyscrapers in Warsaw, they are like 10 years older though.

void0
December 25th, 2011, 10:55 PM
Let's see what will get built first: Warsaw Spire of Evolution tower in Moscow (they have about the same starting position and height)

Dallas star
December 25th, 2011, 11:47 PM
This tower would look so much nicer if only 100 meters was added. It just seems stubby in my oppinion. Anyway, I'll keep my eye out for this thread.

rychlik
December 27th, 2011, 01:08 AM
I think the design is quite creative. I am looking forward to this one.

aarhusforever
December 27th, 2011, 02:27 PM
Warsaw is booming :)

Petr
December 31st, 2011, 11:49 AM
one ass kicking panorama by Polex :)
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/6659/pano1338.jpg

Liwnik
January 12th, 2012, 11:50 PM
12.01.2012

Proszę bardzo, z dzisiaj:
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2964/dsc00085pano.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/267/dsc00085pano.jpg/)

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/9102/dsc00089pano.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/692/dsc00089pano.jpg/)

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/4855/dsc00080pano.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/36/dsc00080pano.jpg/)

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/4283/dsc00097jp.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/43/dsc00097jp.jpg/)

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/3853/dsc00099e.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/28/dsc00099e.jpg/)

michal1701
January 29th, 2012, 10:48 AM
28.01.2012
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/5609/dsc00207el.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/9/dsc00207el.jpg/)

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/6373/dsc00209ru.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/836/dsc00209ru.jpg/)

quadi
January 29th, 2012, 11:04 AM
This is by far the best design from jaspers-eyers and partners i've ever seen...

Ni3lS
January 29th, 2012, 04:10 PM
Seems like they just left the site..

patrykus
January 29th, 2012, 04:16 PM
Like at every Saturday I guess...

Ni3lS
January 29th, 2012, 04:27 PM
There is barely any equipment, seems like nothing has happened on the site lately (frozen ground etc.) and mostly they work 6 days a week on big projects like this one. On even bigger projects they work 24/7. I know much smaller projects where they work at least 6 if not 7 days a week. If U/C, piling and foundation works should be ongoing. I think site excavation has not even finished yet.

patrykus
January 29th, 2012, 04:57 PM
This is third photo of the same session for some reason not posted here. Anyways, all equipment is there.

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/8018/dsc00210ce.jpg

michael_siberia
January 29th, 2012, 05:24 PM
@ Ni3lS
Weather forecasts say that temperature at night may be lower than -20 (in Celsius scale) near Warsaw:
http://www.fotodoll.com/pictures/1763159914f256464559d3.png (http://www.fotodoll.com)

http://www.fotodoll.com/pictures/29868054f256462b9393.png (http://www.fotodoll.com)

http://www.fotodoll.com/pictures/12689260804f25646100830.png (http://www.fotodoll.com)

http://www.fotodoll.com/pictures/19567285674f25640905ce4.png (http://www.fotodoll.com)

(all images from http://gfspl.rootnode.net)

Ni3lS
January 29th, 2012, 08:32 PM
Well, that sucks :dunno: Still, no foundation works ongoing so that means it's not under construction.

Biesiada
January 30th, 2012, 06:51 PM
..

Petr
January 30th, 2012, 07:30 PM
Well, that sucks :dunno: Still, no foundation works ongoing so that means it's not under construction.
You can't change the status everytime You see that there's a few days break because of the whether for example. It's childish...

Ni3lS
January 30th, 2012, 07:34 PM
I don't change it ''everytime''. And it's not because of a break. Look at the photos, there's no piling, no foundation. There is still site prep going on. Last thing we want is false information here, there are too many projects in the U/C section nowadays based on rumors, hunches and false information. Or because people don't know the definition of U/C.

Petr
January 30th, 2012, 07:44 PM
^^
I'm not a pro, but it looks for me like a foundation works:

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2964/dsc00085pano.jpg

Anyway You can trust Polish users, and especially Ghelamco (http://www.ghelamco.be/projects/poland/offices/warsaw-spire.html) that this project will be continued.

Ni3lS
January 30th, 2012, 07:58 PM
It does indeed look like something.. It's confusing, because right now it looks like the stuff they did on january 12th is just prep work before the real construction starts (piling and stuff). Right now it seems they pulled off all equipment and they're gonna wait for a while to get either financing straight or wait for better wheather to start construction. :dunno: Anyway, I don't know what the issue is, the fact is there is nothing going on as of right now and if we keep threads like this in the construction section other forumers are going to complain and ask why the amazing project in ''their'' city is not in the construction section. We just want to be clear about a status and we treat every project in any city equally and we're not making any exceptions. Unless you come up with photos of today that clearly show construction activity on the site of course :)

I think it's best someone finds out what's going on because honestly, it's very unusual that a big project like this goes without any activity for a couple of days without any notice. I hope you understand. If not, then I'm sorry but I'm not going to argue about it anymore. The info here should be reliable and trustworthy.

:cheers:

Ni3lS
January 30th, 2012, 08:10 PM
So I took the liberty of translating some Polish stuff and I read that they need to dig way deeper. This only seems logical to me as it is going to be a pretty tall building. Tall buildings need big (deep) foundations. I read in the Polish section that the ground is hard as rock at the moment because of the temperature (frost). And just to clarify, digging is part of the site excavation and preparation, so this thread shouldn't have been in the construction section in the first place..

For more info please check the first post of this thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=747422

patrykus
January 30th, 2012, 08:15 PM
Right now it seems they pulled off all equipment

ehhh... Haven't you seen the picture I posted? All machinery is on site. One of the polish forumers reported today trucks are moving dirt out of the site.

Ni3lS
January 30th, 2012, 08:17 PM
Yeah stuffed away in the back. Im not going to argue about this, the work that's being done doesn't even count as construction work. It's prep work. Read the whole story I just posted, thanks. And btw, I just read and translated all posts in the local thread today and nothing has been reported about trucks moving dirt. Not that it matters, anyway.

Petr
January 30th, 2012, 09:03 PM
Yeah stuffed away in the back. Im not going to argue about this, the work that's being done doesn't even count as construction work. It's prep work. Read the whole story I just posted, thanks. And btw, I just read and translated all posts in the local thread today and nothing has been reported about trucks moving dirt. Not that it matters, anyway.
This argument is becoming pointless, since You're not going to move this thread anyway. ;)
But You've provoked me. ;)
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=88047204#post88047204

EDIT
this guy explained http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=87503221#post87503221
that these (http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/5809/dsc2911.jpg) are founds of those (http://www.warsawspire.pl/gal/4_1.jpg) pillars.