5 times or more than Vilnuis, Sarajevo, Riga and rest of cities after Moscow, Warsaw and Istanbul.

http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?cityID=769

Could you show me a picture where I can see a skyline a Kiev?

...however, I personally like Warsaw more because of the style of architecture...


http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff108/slavicman07/2008_10_05_-_001_-__Warszawa_Warsaw.jpg


Cmon,these boxes are very ugly.Maybe witht the planned projects (if finished) it woll look better.

Could you show me a picture where I can see a skyline a Kiev?

Yeah I wanted to ask the same thing :okay:

In 5 years Moscow city centre should look like this:

http://img.artlebedev.ru/everything/backstage/federation-3/scan01.jpg

^^ still worse looking than Warsaw..

In 5 years Moscow city centre should look like this:

http://img.artlebedev.ru/everything/backstage/federation-3/scan01.jpg
This is just the CBD, there will be other scrapers built around the complex as well :cheers:

Is anyone gonna post the skyline of Kiev? Ive seen at least 4-5 ppl saying how Kievs skyline is better than Sarajevos, Brataislavas, Rigas etc.... :dunno:

I saw a nice photo of the Kiev skyline taken from some hills, can't find it now

Any Ukrainian forumers? :dunno:

Ok, I'm just reposting some photos from another forum. Photos made by some Ukrainian forumers.

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/32/levshev.2/0_19696_869c7121_XL
http://i.io.ua/img_aa/medium/0473/57/04735778.jpg
http://i.io.ua/img_aa/medium/0473/57/04735779.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3273/2570560980_3a0b76644f_o.jpg

I still think that Sarajevo has better skyline ;)

even Ankara has a better skyline than Kiev! but i know if i nominate ankara here, you guys would kick my ass:lol:

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/7900/21778ben8wd1.jpg

^^ Kyew isn't good in my opinion.

But, anyway this:

http://img.artlebedev.ru/everything/backstage/federation-3/scan01.jpg

is not good too. Why?
Because Moscow's CBD is too megalomanic, why don't build some smaller towers, but more? In my opinion Russia Tower and this red something are one of the ugliest towers in Europe. The rest is ok, but around CBD Moscow need some smaller (50 - 150 m) towers.

Kyiv`s skyline isnt bad, but I think Sarajevo is a bit ahead cuz the scrapers in Sarajevo are more close together, and soon will form a cluster :dunno:

When they build Al Shiddi Tower and Avaz Queen Tower the skyline in Sarajevo will be amazing.

^^ Kyew isn't good in my opinion.

But, anyway this:

http://img.artlebedev.ru/everything/backstage/federation-3/scan01.jpg

is not good too. Why?
Because Moscow's CBD is too megalomanic, why don't build some smaller towers, but more? In my opinion Russia Tower and this red something are one of the ugliest towers in Europe. The rest is ok, but around CBD Moscow need some smaller (50 - 150 m) towers.
Perhaps you haven't seen proper renders of Russia tower! I agree that in that particular picture it looks like a clumsy hippo

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/3576/41731swu3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/Muse11/RussiaTowerModel.jpg
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/8326/41733spk7.jpg

but this Avaz is very ugly...

Perhaps you haven't seen proper renders of Russia tower! I agree that in that particular picture it looks like a clumsy hippo

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/3576/41731swu3.jpg


It's much nicer than i've thought previously. In fact it might be even better than the old version. :cheers:

FYI Lodz in Poland (second largest city in terms of population) signed an agreement with Polish Aviation Authority regarding construction of skyscrapers in the city center.

Permit was issued for buildings up to 200m. There are currently 15 proposals ranging from 100m to 200m for Lodz.

So Lodz may get a nice skyline soon.

So far Polish skylines are (in no particular order):

1. Warszawa
2. Poznan
3. Lodz
4. Katowice
5. Wroclaw
6. Gdynia/Gdansk

Inside

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/9345/41732sja0.jpg

http://i013.radikal.ru/0806/60/17aab6f91e06.jpg

http://i034.radikal.ru/0806/df/6d45ad8c9b1e.jpg

http://img.artlebedev.ru/kovodstvo/business-lynch/files/F/3/F3D05BF0-C11F-4A64-BF62-825E0DBB6A28.jpg
^^
It remains to be seen how will it fit the complex, but the building itself is awesome:cheers:

In my opinion Russia Tower and this red something are one of the ugliest towers in Europe.
This "ugliest" red building is Moscow City Hall. It has red colour because it is historical colour for Russian capital. It also symbolizes letter "M", Москва.

http://dva3.ru//pictures/vis/ani/mmdc/fin.jpg

http://dva3.ru//pictures/vis/ani/mmdc/14.jpg

Kyiv`s skyline isnt bad, but I think Sarajevo is a bit ahead cuz the scrapers in Sarajevo are more close together, and soon will form a cluster :dunno:

But you only have few highrises. How many building above 20 floors you have? I think may be 20 maximum, Kyiv has more than 200 of such buildings.

I am not a big fan of this building, but it definitely looks better on renders

http://img.artlebedev.ru/kovodstvo/business-lynch/files/F/3/F3D05BF0-C11F-4A64-BF62-825E0DBB6A28.jpg

Dnipropetrovsk
http://i37.tinypic.com/xofaqv.jpg
http://i37.tinypic.com/293h9qv.jpg
http://i35.tinypic.com/2qkjvi9.jpg
http://i37.tinypic.com/28jl09e.jpg

I dont think it matters how many and how tall the buildings are, its how they form a skyline and how each building looks.

It seems Dnipropetrovsk is pulling out in the leaders! :wink2: A very good competitor for EE countries!

Lol, are poles really saying that a bunch of randomly placed not very impressive towers are better than towers forming a great cluster?

Completely agree with you! Cluster, formed around one dominant structure, and NOT a randomly placed towers, leave a much better impression.

As many towers Warsaw has, i'd say Moscow is ahead already, due to good urban planning.

But you only have few highrises. How many building above 20 floors you have? I think may be 20 maximum, Kyiv has more than 200 of such buildings.

Read what the people on the forum are writing about clusters ;)

Kiev maybe has more highrises than Sarajevo, but they are widespread and dont form a cluster. And also Kiev is much bigger than Sarajevo. Sarajevo has some 700,000 people while Kiev has 2-3 million. Besides, most of the buildings you have above 20floors are commie blocks, right? ;)

^^ Sarajevo scrappers are also widespread and don't form a cluster.

^^ Sarajevo scrappers are also widespread and don't form a cluster.

There are 4 scrapers that form a mini cluster, and in the background are also 2 Bosmal towerz :)

and 2 more +100m are getting constructed near the 4 that form a cluster ;)

Read what the people on the forum are writing about clusters ;)

Kiev maybe has more highrises than Sarajevo, but they are widespread and dont form a cluster. And also Kiev is much bigger than Sarajevo. Sarajevo has some 700,000 people while Kiev has 2-3 million. Besides, most of the buildings you have above 20floors are commie blocks, right? ;)

Wiki says whole of Sarajevo Canton has only ~420.000

^^ Wiki can be edited by anyone ;)

When Russia Tower and the whole planned complex in Moscow get built, I may have to concede that the skyline is #1 in EE....BUT, it's not built (this ranking is for current skylines, right?), and right now it doesn't really appeal to me as a whole (though I see the potential and like the individual buildings). And by the time that complex in Moscow City is built, Warsaw will have several more very tall skyscrapers, and tastes may change. And in reply to JAG, those towers in Warsaw are very modern "boxes", and I happen to like the way they look very much. Architecture, after all, is a very subjective science, no? Opinions matter. I think it's undeniable what the top 3 are, the question of which city goes in what place is mostly a question of taste.

But what's all this bs that there are no clusters in Warsaw? There is a cluster up and growing in Wola (around the Warsaw Trade Tower), and the main cluster in Śródmieście, plus the cluster (could be considered part of main one) with Orco Tower, Elektrim, and LIM, plus other towers 100+ m throughout the city, including Blue Tower, Babka Tower, Intraco, Reform Plaza, etc. Like someone mentioned before, Istanbul and Warsaw are growing more naturally, while Moscow is more planned and rigid. Which version you like better depends upon who you are. Personally, I like the natural growth and look of Warsaw much more than Moscow.

There are 4 scrapers that form a mini cluster, and in the background are also 2 Bosmal towerz :)

and 2 more +100m are getting constructed near the 4 that form a cluster ;)


Then Kyiv has about 10 or 15 such miniclusters :lol:

Read what the people on the forum are writing about clusters ;)

Kiev maybe has more highrises than Sarajevo, but they are widespread and dont form a cluster. And also Kiev is much bigger than Sarajevo. Sarajevo has some 700,000 people while Kiev has 2-3 million. Besides, most of the buildings you have above 20floors are commie blocks, right? ;)

Yes, Kyiv has most of the commies above 20 floor but they form density of the area which Sarajevo lucks at the moment, you have few towers and that's all, rest of the building look like 3-4 floors, and Kyiv has density and they keep building regardless of the crisis:

By Levshev today:
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3302/levshev.1b/0_216a7_4e204c3f_XL
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3100/levshev.1b/0_216a9_deaf6080_XL

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3003/levshev.1b/0_216b1_637142b5_XL

Or something like this (check background :))

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3200/levshev.1b/0_216b4_d31d72be_XL

by me

http://i36.tinypic.com/23sj7sw.jpg

Officially the best skylines in EE as ranked by the "Rate our Talls" Polls.

Warsaw
Gdansk
Wroclaw
Krakow
Riga
Vilnius
Lodz
Prague
Belgrade
Zelenograd
St. Petersburg
Poznan
Sarajevo
Kyiv
Moscow
Podgorica
Gdnya
Szczecin
Bucharest
Sofia
And so fourth.....

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=204843

Although, this thread is from 2005, it should be an eyeopener for us all. :)

^^ I guess what you're trying to say is that Poles have a very good, refined taste, right? :D

And in reply to JAG, those towers in Warsaw are very modern "boxes", and I happen to like the way they look very much. Architecture, after all, is a very subjective science, no? Opinions matter.

They have an late 70ies/80ies look.Absolutley nothing interesting,for me atleast.As i said,maybe that will change with the new buildings (if build).

Does anybody have a photos how Warsaw looked lets say 10 years ago from now (just to compare what exactly has been build since that time)?

Could you show me a picture where I can see a skyline a Kiev?

Would consider this as a skyline?

interesniy.kiev.ua user biotin
http://pics.livejournal.com/biotin/pic/0003h1c7

http://pics.livejournal.com/biotin/pic/0003e5a5

http://pics.livejournal.com/biotin/pic/0003q3b6

Yes, Kyiv has most of the commies above 20 floor but they form density of the area which Sarajevo lucks at the moment, you have few towers and that's all, rest of the building look like 3-4 floors, and Kyiv has density and they keep building regardless of the crisis:



Oki, agreed with you about the density and all... But everything isnt in density, or? The type of the towers is also what counts :dunno:

Oki, agreed with you about the density and all... But everything isnt in density, or? The type of the towers is also what counts :dunno:

Agree with you point as well :)

Does anybody have a photos how Warsaw looked lets say 10 years ago from now (just to compare what exactly has been build since that time)?

Warsaw, late 1970s.

http://i37.tinypic.com/fco8k6.jpg
http://i35.tinypic.com/10p7q4l.jpg
http://i37.tinypic.com/nwc0i8.jpg

Agree with you point as well :)

:okay:

Here is Sarajevo`s mini cluster by night

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/7496/1052jxzlv3.jpg

On the left: Twist Tower

On the right: Holiday Inn, 2 Unitic Towers, and the Parliament tower

Compare this:
http://i35.tinypic.com/10p7q4l.jpg

with this: :clown:
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff108/slavicman07/a31a.jpg
^^This picture isn't totally up to date with Złota 44 u/c (6 floors already), it is on the left side of the photo (where the arrows are pointing).

Compare this:

with this:

Yes, decline is shocking.

Yes, decline is shocking.

Awww, did your mommy forget to change the kitty-litter? You're probably in such a foul mood because it smells so bad...:lol::lol:

Just a few tall building were build in recent time.

None of those buildings are world class

I can say the same about moscow's skyline at the moment. Future probably may change it. Moscow's skyline is dense and high - end of story. Compare quality of architecture there and in Frankfurt, London, Paris... And it's not about complexes but about facts.

Prague

http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/letnaskyline04.jpg

^^ Nice!!
Are there any new towers planned in Prague? New scrapers' district maybe? I guess such precious historical skyline is under special protection from City Authorities?

I can say the same about moscow's skyline at the moment. Future probably may change it. Moscow's skyline is dense and high - end of story. Compare quality of architecture there and in Frankfurt, London, Paris... And it's not about complexes but about facts.
What exactly is your criticism of quality of e.g. Russia Tower or Federation Tower?

^^ Nice!!
Are there any new towers planned in Prague? New scrapers' district maybe? I guess such precious historical skyline is under special protection from City Authorities?

There were proposals to build a couple of scrapers including 160+ m one at Pankrac plain where the highest towers already stand but this was rejected and constantly there is a fight between UNESCO, other protectionists and developers. As it it seems now, there will be a couple o new towers up to some 80m which would help to create a nice cluster.

Pankrac plain now looks like this:

http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/prague-skyline-shot.jpg

"Groundscrapers" are much more common in Prague. For instance BB Centrum just one subway stop from Pankrac.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=468507

http://www.ludvik.sk/grafika/panorama_small.jpg

http://www.pazdera.sk/obydick/panorama_mala.jpg

http://galeria.vystavba.info/d/6944-1/P9291568.JPG

http://i36.tinypic.com/24wbz9j.jpg

I guess Bratislava can be at 9th or 10th place in EE top10 skylines :cheers:

There were proposals to build a couple of scrapers including 160+ m one at Pankrac plain where the highest towers already stand but this was rejected and constantly there is a fight between UNESCO, other protectionists and developers. As it it seems now, there will be a couple o new towers up to some 80m which would help to create a nice cluster.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=468507

Sounds promising, personally I think there's nothig better than well balanced skyline, a mix of historical "towers" and new ones not essentialy extremely tall. Prague has a lot of potential there. Especially that it looks like new towers will be built near the City heart. Like it!

What exactly is your criticism of quality of e.g. Russia Tower or Federation Tower?

@ Russia Tower - read with understanding, I wrote that in the future there will be some high class towers in Moscow. To be honest, there is one residential tower I consider to be classy, I don't remember its name, it looks like a little bit twisted, has lots of "accidently" arranged windows and skewed columns at ground and first floor level - I really like it, I'm a bit jealous :). BTW could you post some shots of this building here? If you know which one I mean.

@Federation Tower - I do not like It's bad proportions, it is "fat". It has no interesting large scale detail, cladding looks a kind of cheap. This building is just average when such tall buildings cannot be average, must be significant, this one is just boring, there is no "play" and no idea in this tower even formally it is not interesting.

I don't want to compare Warsaw and Moscow, these are two totally different cities, with different population, history, size, etc.
To me in terms of height, density, overall scale Moscow has no competition but when it comes to other aspects Moscow has at least dozen of competitors and is not as perfect as russian forumers force us to think.
To be fair, I think that Warsaw is not as "great" as some of polish forumers say, Now I think it is also average but ongoing and planned buildings make me hopin that one day we will deserve stron good 2nd place in EE.
:cheers: for our EE dynamic cities!

WoW Bratislava and Prague are awesome :okay:

Interesting opinion regarding the aesthetics of the towers

I have been to both London and Paris and therefore was able to compare the towers in real life. In London I was only impressed with the Gerkin and the HSBC building, while Paris was not impressive at all. I do not know what mystic "quality" you are talking about since the towers in Moscow look at least as impressive as the ones in London/Paris and are designed by the same top architects!? ;) :dunno:

It was criticism, Golov, I've criticised Federation Tower. Were I not precise enough?
Which existing buildings in Moscow are designed by the Foster, Pei, Renzo Piano, Nouvell, Perrault etc.? Don't call average german design office a top architects.

Quality regards detailing, materials, formal solutions ,proportions of buildings, idea (gherkin - good example, you look at this building and you see structure, you see how the natural ventilation works, you see how social aspect looks, shape of the building is unmistakable, you see idea of the design at first sight),way the building relates to the city etc..
Federation Tower is just another tall boring scraper.
I'm regarding only to existing buildings, just to remind you...

Like I said, the Gherkin was one of the only skyscrapers I liked in London, so you would still have to prove to me about the overall superiority of the quality :|


I think the Federation Tower is a very beautiful and elegant skyscraper, what in particular don't you like about the cladding? I think the cloud pattern was a very original and excellent move! :okay:
http://www.nps-tchoban-voss.de/gfx/207.jpg
http://s44.radikal.ru/i104/0810/fc/3934ecc9a5e9.jpg

The interior of the tower is very cool too

rendering rules!:lol:

Reality is more prosaic I'm afraid...

"cloudy" cladding - I apreciate your sense of humor :)

rendering rules!:lol:

Reality is more prosaic I'm afraid...

"cloudy" cladding - I apreciate your sense of humor :)
Lets wait until its finished, shall we!? :)

Please expand, I was referring specifically to the cloud patter in between the windows. I think it looks very cool and original

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8559/4410ed45261df03093894cee2bfac2.jpg

Ok, thought you were describing window panels reflecting clouds as specially design pattern - it could have been a good joke :nuts:

Anyway, lets wait for completion. Could you post some shots of residential tower described in one of my previus posts?

btw. I am still hopeful that they will knock down that soviet box in the middle

(wrong order of post, should be below the renders)

Sounds like you were talking about this building:

http://www.moscitygroup.ru/content/i/projects/moscowCity/dolg/005.jpg
http://www.moscitygroup.ru/content/i/projects/moscowCity/dolg/002.jpg
http://www.moscitygroup.ru/content/i/projects/moscowCity/dolg/001.jpg

this is Hadid

I mean the one with cranes in a "foreground" >

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3235/2885199997_470306d50a_b.jpg

Oh i see, that one is called "House on Mosfil'movskaya"
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=116980


http://s45.radikal.ru/i109/0810/66/7eb1b09e9975.jpg
copyright info found here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=26361868&postcount=644)

http://pics.livejournal.com/mordolff/pic/000qkb8h
by http://mordolff.livejournal.com/

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3028/2880068546_43ebd5ff7c_o.jpg
by http://zyalt.livejournal.com/

^^ yeah!! love it!
My favourite from Moscow. I wish we had something like that in Warsaw. Really modern, fresh building.

Sounds like you were talking about this building:

http://www.moscitygroup.ru/content/i/projects/moscowCity/dolg/005.jpg

Compared to that, "our" Hadid looks plain boring :(
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/852/41225316gf2.jpg

Can you post some renders?

^^ yeah!! love it!
My favourite from Moscow. I wish we had something like that in Warsaw. Really modern, fresh building.

much better than Hadid:yes:

Just to make it clear: even if, Istanbul could be consider as part of europe, it most certainly is not in eastern europe. Whoever thinks otherwise, is either blind or completely clueless in geography. Even the political term cannot be applied to it, as it was on the opposite side of iron curtain.

No offense, but Sarajevan towers are some of the worst i have ever seen. What makes them look any good is the mountainous background.

..........................................................................................................

Tallinn (c)panoramio

http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/7841/613963qp3.jpg

Yo :rock:

http://img-a.photosight.ru/f7e/2907439_large.jpeg
by antifox2005

Moscow now has the best skyline in EE. Quite a remarkable progress, when we just started discussing EE skylines when I joined up in 2004, it had one of the worst.

^^ Good point

Taken yesterday. i nominate Prague for best blend of old and new skyline :)

http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/PA230644.jpg

^^ do we even have that competition? :D

Come on, there is always space for one more competition on this forum :)

I nominate Tallinn for best mixture IMO between the new and the old buildings! (as seen on that pic)

Speaking of mixture of old and new...

by drugastrona
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3151/2954605945_d3892db6f7_b.jpg

Vilnius

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/9274/269625758097f2909472bzk4.jpg

(c)Seconds2007's from flichr.com

^^^^ very nice! Reminds me of a mini Prague

Dnipropetrovsk from gorod.dp.ua
http://gorod.dp.ua/photo/usergorod/2008/10/19/20928.jpg

@Quicksilver, maybe you have any info about the 50-storey high tower in Dnipropetrovsk?

Sarajevo, Mariah Castle district

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b290/skyscraper_BiH/Bosanska%20Krajina/n797982640_616884_988.jpg

:cheers:

Great pic of Warsaw!

@Quicksilver, maybe you have any info about the 50-storey high tower in Dnipropetrovsk?

They currently demolishing old houses on the site:
Pictures by dp_feeZf@ker
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u136/madvad_dp/DSC07293.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u136/madvad_dp/DSC07297.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u136/madvad_dp/DSC07298.jpg

More here http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=437809&page=62

Kyiv skylines by Hawk (made today):

http://img-kiev.fotki.yandex.ru/get/3207/hawk5555.29/0_1f489_865f88ac_XL
http://img-kiev.fotki.yandex.ru/get/3307/hawk5555.29/0_1f48a_318c41de_XL
http://img-kiev.fotki.yandex.ru/get/3003/hawk5555.29/0_1f48b_a38149f3_XL
http://img-kiev.fotki.yandex.ru/get/3202/hawk5555.29/0_1f495_356af50f_XL
http://img-kiev.fotki.yandex.ru/get/3100/hawk5555.28/0_1f46d_1497864_XL

wow Kyiv is nice :D

wow Kyiv is nice :D

Thank you :)

IMHO Warsaw and Moscow skylines are comparable at the moment. Warsaw lucks height, Moscow lucks panoramic views. Both are crucial for skyline reception. One's evaluation depends on his preferences or prejudices. In 2 years or so Moscow should overpass Warsaw for good, if our tallest projects won't reach construction status.

Thanks a lot Quicksilver! :cheers:

Kyiv is one big chaos :/

Kyiv is one big chaos :/
More chaos by Hawk :lol:

http://img-kiev.fotki.yandex.ru/get/3305/hawk5555.28/0_1f481_604b40fd_XL

http://img-kiev.fotki.yandex.ru/get/3206/hawk5555.28/0_1f47b_82d4a73d_XL

http://img-kiev.fotki.yandex.ru/get/3103/hawk5555.28/0_1f47a_f0e84436_XL

http://img-kiev.fotki.yandex.ru/get/3306/hawk5555.28/0_1f47d_68bf8b6c_XL

Moscow

scroll>>>>>>
http://pics.livejournal.com/chistoprudov/pic/0016gx91

http://pics.livejournal.com/chistoprudov/pic/0015f39g

IMO Moscow's skyline is a bit chaotic! All is too scattered!

but has business center.

Sarajevo skyline taken from the Old City, also a small old/new mix :)

http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/3914/39ot5.jpg

..yeah

ya can see three different kinds of religious buildings too -
and a brewery of course :cheers:

Vilnius

http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20081029/0005.JPG

http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20081029/0004.JPG

Vilnius Business District lacks several really high buildings - than it will look really awesome and like a skyscraper area!

^^I think it needs more buildings around the same height as the tallest tower...then Wilno will really be on Europe's skyline map! Beautiful city though.

Skyline of Vilnius is truly among the best in Europe, I'd dare say second-best to Moscow & Varšuva;)

Few nice photos from Dnipropetrovsk city sight:
http://gorod.dp.ua/photo/usergorod/2008/10/29/21258.jpg
(50-storeys BRAMA will be at the left hand of big building)
http://gorod.dp.ua/photo/usergorod/2008/10/29/21251.jpg
http://gorod.dp.ua/photo/usergorod/2008/10/27/21223.jpg
(new cluster)

^^ really nice, definately among the best EE skylines! :cheers:

Perm ( Russia)

Пермь
http://www.sludka.perm.ru/app/webroot/files/Image/view-w-2.jpg
http://www.sludka.perm.ru/app/webroot/files/Image/view-w-3.jpg
http://www.sludka.perm.ru/app/webroot/files/Image/view-w-4.jpg
http://www.sludka.perm.ru/app/webroot/files/Image/view-w-5.jpg
http://www.sludka.perm.ru/app/webroot/files/Image/view-w-6.jpg

http://www.sludka.perm.ru/app/webroot/files/Image/view-w-8.jpg

источник
Perm

Пермь. Жилой комплекс "Сатурн-Р", ул.Окулова, 18 ("Ворота Прикамья")

http://i080.radikal.ru/0809/5c/af571b6fcf32.jpg (http://www.sludka.perm.ru/content/view/windows-view)


http://s48.radikal.ru/i119/0809/ec/c0a55f5bf465.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
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http://i074.radikal.ru/0809/0b/dec7cceb1acc.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)


from flickr.com

by EricFirley

http://i049.radikal.ru/0808/04/18b72c8d6439.jpg

http://i067.radikal.ru/0808/cc/3f761f8e82aa.jpg

http://i030.radikal.ru/0808/40/d0a61bd481e8.jpg

^^ Heaven of commieblocks! (as most Russian cities are) :ohno:

but they look quite organised.

Vilnius doesnt need more height, only a bit more density, and it will be a jewel.

http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20081029/0004.JPG

Sarajevo by dusk..or dawn..or... smog LOL :D

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3166/2996108189_dd26e1b21d_b.jpg

Vilnius



http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/5589/img01250gy5.jpg

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/4866/img13473agj2.jpg

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/599/dsc1630xh9.jpg

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/6012/img43831ol8.jpg


Bratislava?
Sarajevo who...?

Pictures from (c)efoto.lt

^^I think it needs more buildings around the same height as the tallest tower...then Wilno will really...

They will come, don't worry ;)

Sarajevo by dusk..or dawn..or... smog LOL :D

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3166/2996108189_dd26e1b21d_b.jpg

wow this city keeps on surprising me.. looks very nice!

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/4866/img13473agj2.jpg


Love this pic :cheers:
Some more of the same type...

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff108/slavicman07/22950168649486699a60oxm2.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff108/slavicman07/rondo081105.jpg

^^ Beautiful pics! :)

Vilnius

Bratislava?
Sarajevo who...?



Sarajevo

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/164/424647785_3046473e9b_b.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b290/skyscraper_BiH/Sarajevo/PC038116.jpg?t=1225791981

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b290/skyscraper_BiH/Sarajevo/PB148043.jpg

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q259/annd83/tramvajbvv04.jpg

Bratislava

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3211/2952799323_4cdcf6047b_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3277/2703853628_a7ea51eef4_b.jpg

Vilnius who? :D

j/k :lol: Those pictures of Vilnius are awesome :okay: :applause:

wow this city keeps on surprising me.. looks very nice!

Thank you ;)

del

^^ Yeah, I agree, Sarajevo and Bratislava are really nice cities but this thread is about skylines, not separate streets and buildings! Anyone can post here zillions of beautiful pics of everything that is situated in city, so don't go OT...

^^ Yeah, I agree, Sarajevo and Bratislava are really nice cities but this thread is about skylines, not separate streets and buildings! Anyone can post here zillions of beautiful pics of everything that is situated in city, so don't go OT...

Thanks!

And yeah I agree with you on the thing that this thread is not about streets and buildings. The point of my post was when the guy up said Vilnius is cool, Bratislava & Sarajevo WHO? So, I was tryin to make a joke how Bratislava and Sarajevo have trams and Vilnius not, so whos the cool guy now, Vilnius WHO? :p
So my post isnt about streets nor buildings ;)

blah nevermind, just ignore the post :D

^^ He dont understand our Bosnian humor :D

Moscow

by huan-carlos

http://dv.springfield.ru/Lifef/2008/2008.10.15/IMG_0110.JPG

http://dv.springfield.ru/Lifef/2008/2008.10.15/IMG_0142.JPG

http://dv.springfield.ru/Lifef/2008/2008.10.15/IMG_0221.JPG

^^ :bow: :bow: :bow: :drool: :drool: :drool:

Beautiful! What's the thing with the T-shirt?

Some of the workers like to dry their t-shirts on a line stretched between the scrapers, they say the increased wind at higher altitude dries their shirts much faster :)

Beautiful! What's the thing with the T-shirt?

Advertising of apartments.:)

Istanbul by Özcan Günergök! My favourite photo by far!

http://www.pikipimp.com/pp/pimped_photo/s/image/36/976/873/2ms4t29_3.jpg?ts=1225924487110

Moscow

by huan-carlos

http://dv.springfield.ru/Lifef/2008/2008.10.15/IMG_0110.JPG

http://dv.springfield.ru/Lifef/2008/2008.10.15/IMG_0142.JPG

http://dv.springfield.ru/Lifef/2008/2008.10.15/IMG_0221.JPG

Now that is a SKYLINE!!! Yeah, must agree really impressive and massive! :banana2:

^^ hehe ok, feel kinda embarassed to post Sarajevo skyline after this.. but wutta heck, here goes nothing :tongue3:

Sarajevo - Mariah Castle district

http://www.dnevniavaz.ba/img/gallery_images/avaz_nova-zgrada1.jpg

http://www.dnevniavaz.ba/img/gallery_images/avaz_nova-zgrada2.jpg

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4109/33gd1.jpg

http://www.dnevniavaz.ba/img/gallery_images/avaz_nova-zgrada.jpg

http://www.dnevniavaz.ba/img/gallery_images/avaz_nova-zgrada4.jpg

^^Love that pic of Istanbul posted by Messi. Here are some more EE beauties...

http://gfx.filmweb.pl/ph/78/36/387836/111922.1.jpg
http://gfx.filmweb.pl/ph/78/36/387836/111924.1.jpg

http://www.ziolek.pl/fotografie/warszawy/panorama/index.htm
http://www.ziolek.pl/fotografie/warszawy/ulice/index.htm
http://www.ziolek.pl/fotografie/warszawy/ulice/index.htm
http://www.ziolek.pl/fotografie/warszawy/ulice/index.htm

Mariah Castle

Are you sure that Marijin dvor is Mariah Castle in English? :)

Are you sure that Marijin dvor is Mariah Castle in English? :)

Jepp, I`ve seen the official translation somewhere on an official city portal.. I guess thats the right translation.. You have any other suggestions? :dunno:

Warsaw

by filosss

http://iv.pl/images/lusn0jk3lbzjcv4e3swk.jpg

http://images36.fotosik.pl/21/be92ad6a157c39e6.jpg

by Tomasz 32

http://images38.fotosik.pl/16/5b3c69854619d59e.jpg

http://images28.fotosik.pl/289/aff283d07f534448.jpg

Just beautiful! Hope soon there will come more highrise!

Varšava, niiiiice :cheers:

Darhet - very impressive fotos !!! :cheers:

I love this photo

http://s58.radikal.ru/i162/0811/a2/380c61313916.jpg
(c) majoris

^^Wow...me too! Love the colors!

^^ Some more
Moscow skyline at night ;)

http://pics.livejournal.com/chistoprudov/pic/0019605c

http://pics.livejournal.com/chistoprudov/pic/0018kkdt

http://pics.livejournal.com/chistoprudov/pic/001973ef

http://chistoprudov.livejournal.com/7817.html

man, the night shots are simply magnificent! thanks! :)

Moscow is beautiful^^
Beautiful skyscrapers :drool:

Top Five :)
1. Kragujevac
2. Pridnestrovje
3. Szarajewo
4. Perm
5. Mukhosransk ( Zhopopinsk )
:cheers:

moscow is getting better with each day

Tallinn:
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/4972/foto1js7.jpg

^^Tallin looks better in a day light

^^ True: This photo is made by jkk:
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/7906/atgaaacuoutnaei82xkwxfbwh6.jpg

Ekaterinburg
http://s42.radikal.ru/i097/0810/98/3f0eda3dbad0.jpg

http://www.e1.ru/fun/photo/view_pic.php/o/222ea611a6f004fabfba79909bf72aed/view.pic

click for larger picture

http://www.e1.ru/fun/photo/view_pic.php/p/8d930c44ae0315fb53654bbe0e080070/view.pic (http://www.e1.ru/fun/photo/view_pic.php/o/8d930c44ae0315fb53654bbe0e080070/view.pic)

It sure can't compete with other cities, but why not to post it.

Banjaluka, the capital city of Republic of Srpska:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3226/2999623352_52bb911132_b.jpg

Ekaterinburg again
scroll >>
http://i027.radikal.ru/0811/98/1cab1d08c2ee.jpg

I'm beggining to think that not all Russian cities look so ugly with commiescrapers, so of them are not that bad! :)

I'm beggining to think that not all Russian cities look so ugly with commiescrapers, so of them are not that bad! :)
Most older cities have a nice historic center and then residential suburbs full of commies

The larger the city was in the 19th century in Russia, the nicer it looks. Because 19th century Russian architecture was quite good, mostly mimicking neoclassicism.

Bratislava - commie site

East part of Bratislava - picture taken from Tower115


http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/8259623.jpg


North part of Bratislava

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/167/pano15rt4.jpg

West part of Bratislava[/SIZE]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3234/3054151887_2f7a786289_b.jpg

South-east part of Bratislava[/SIZE]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3002/3048623200_c60e21b7c3_o.jpg

Looking not bad at all! Very nice! Though it lacks several really high buildings, that could form a cluster IMO!

Orel (Russia)


from fotki.yandex.ru by svetaportnova

http://s39.radikal.ru/i083/0811/14/79e404ff41ea.jpg

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Samara

from fotki.yandex.ru

by snmar
http://s53.radikal.ru/i141/0811/05/11a69d64402a.jpg

by feerrum

http://i073.radikal.ru/0811/c1/4c5889ccc311.jpg

http://s40.radikal.ru/i087/0811/56/c117b244d53b.jpg

http://s45.radikal.ru/i108/0811/e0/55257acab5d8.jpg


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Rostov-on -DonФотографии Ростова-на-Дону.

Итак, позвольте представить вам: Жосс Бомон (http://www.photosight.ru/users/144059/)

вид на набережную
http://img-e.photosight.ru/d97/2906850_large.jpg



вид на центр (здание с зеленой крышей - мерия)
http://img-2008-06.photosight.ru/21/2726560.jpg

один из символов Ростова - Железнодорожный мост

http://img-2008-06.photosight.ru/17/2721017.jpg

Rostov - probably one of the few really nice Russian cities, where even fit commieblocks. Especially I appreciate it's density and old, historical buildings! :cheers:

Warsaw, still the best in EE: :banana:

http://plfoto.com/zdjecia_new2/1578829.jpg
http://plfoto.com/zdjecia_new2/1453904.jpg
z plfoto.com

I gotta admit though, Rostov-on-Don looks really nice.

relax, Warsaw is one of few good skylines in EE but definately is not the best...I love my city but I'm more realistic than you.

here is the best skyline of europe

Istanbul

http://i34.tinypic.com/15q4ra9.jpg

thanks to nuri

here is the best skyline of europe




Where?

skyscrapers are retrograde

Where?

you cant see the pic or are you trying to imply me something?

you cant see the pic or are you trying to imply me something?

Skyscrapers in Istanbul look very poor like in some African cities :ohno:

I just don't get Polish arrogance :dunno:

Skyscrapers in Istanbul look very poor like in some African cities :ohno:

everyone has own taste, it's my first time that im reading istanbul's skyscrapers look alike poor african cities.

here im posting some more, these may help you change your mind:)

http://i35.tinypic.com/2ms4t29.jpg
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/6346/img1510alhi1.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3255/2562427766_cdafa10723_o.jpg
http://i35.tinypic.com/ht8p4y.jpg



http://i38.tinypic.com/2prtctw.jpg

i love these istanbul shots! especially the 2nd and the 4th one. great!

IMO Istanbul is a nice mix of European and Asian styles. It doesn't remind me of African cities at all. If anything, it looks more like an American city, with its spread-out suburbs.

I just don't get Polish arrogance :dunno:

Not Polish arrogance but some user's arrogance, Russian users also gave many reasons to call them arrogant but we don't do it. It's not about nationality but about level of personal culture. This is how it works...

I don't like this thread anymore. Full of boring commies! :puke:

Skyscrapers in Istanbul look very poor like in some African cities :ohno:

Last time I heared that from a Pole I compared top 15 of both cities the user came never back to the forum. That was several years ago. After 8 buildings I had to post commies from Warsaw because there weren't any real skyscrapers. I think I'll do the same comprasion after 3 years again, let's see what changed.

It's not about numbers.

No I didn't talk about numbers either. I said I compared top 15 in both cities and after 8 buildings I had to post commie like buildings from Warsaw. What I wanted to say is that there is no need to be that arogant as someone from Warsaw.

No I didn't talk about numbers either. I said I compared top 15 in both cities and after 8 buildings I had to post commie like buildings from Warsaw. What I wanted to say is that there is no need to be that arogant as someone from Warsaw.

The forumer you quoted is from Wrocław, FYI ;) But I don't think that someone who believes Warsaw has a more appealing skyline than Istanbul, for example, is being arrogant. That's just their opinion.

The forumer you quoted is from Wrocław, FYI ;) But I don't think that someone who believes Warsaw has a more appealing skyline than Istanbul, for example, is being arrogant. That's just their opinion.
Thats true, but somebody coming from Poland who says "Skyscrapers in Istanbul look very poor like in some African cities" is being either very arrogant or very stupid

Thats true, but somebody coming from Poland who says "Skyscrapers in Istanbul look very poor like in some African cities" is being either very arrogant or very stupid

No argument there :cheers:

Must agree, skyscrapers in Istanbul do look a bit cheap (but same do some Warsaw ones), as well as there are too many twin towers, but you can't say it's sort of Afro style.. It's just mix of cultures, but Asian and European! :)

Skyscrapers in Istanbul look very poor like in some African cities :ohno:


Nie rob bydla na tym forum


Sorry,sorry, sorry

They look more asiatic than african...

ATM Istambul has better skyline then Warsaw, and ofc Moscow's skyline is getting better each day...Some high projects in Warsaw are w8ing for approval...Should be good in 2012-15...Thats true, but somebody coming from Poland who says "Skyscrapers in Istanbul look very poor like in some African cities" is being either very arrogant or very stupidCalling someone 'very stupid' is an arrogant, aswell...so please stop it...

del

Maribor - Slovenia (popul. 114 000)

http://www3.shrani.si/files/img1389867748.jpg

http://www3.shrani.si/files/img1394867755.jpg

http://www3.shrani.si/files/img0551867662.jpg

http://www3.shrani.si/files/img0550867661.jpg

^^are these skyscrapers residences or offices?

IMO the best skyline in EE is in Warsaw.

Just for a change, I'll repost smth about Nicosia/Cyprus. Obviously it isn't exactly Eastern European but anyway, these terms gradually erode :

There are almost no skylines in our cities in Greece (just some old skyscrapers/highrises built before the height restriction) but interesting things happen in Nicosia/Cyprus. Despite its 200.000 inhabitants the city is developing a mini-skyline:

Nicosia-Cyprus

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e132/spy78/nik.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e132/spy78/showImage.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e132/spy78/1391054759_2a6bc81726_b.jpg

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/5451/3027616520dfd3f3db6bbxf9.jpg

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1415/305915121279810afaa2bps1.jpg

ps. most of the photos are from the members nick3dz and sk from the Greek part of Nicosia.

Warsaw, thanks to Sławek:

http://lorenc.home.pl/noc-sky/cd/4.jpg

Dnipro
http://gorod.dp.ua/photo/usergorod/2008/12/08/22016.jpg

Yekaterinburg
http://www.zavet.tv/SL740144.JPG

Dnipro
http://gorod.dp.ua/photo/usergorod/2008/11/29/21860.JPG
http://gorod.dp.ua/photo/usergorod/2008/12/01/21901.jpg
http://gorod.dp.ua/photo/usergorod/2008/12/10/22056.jpg

A different perspective over downtown Warsaw:

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/7/7/5/1230577.jpg
from www.airliners.net

Dnipro looks huge and great skyline as well!! :cheers:

http://img-f.photosight.ru/7a5/2995673_large.jpg

^^ Probably the only real skyscrapers in Europe! :)

I really don’t know what you see in that Istanbul skyline.
;)

I really don’t know what you see in that Istanbul skyline.
;)

if you meant the picture above - it's Moscow City!! :) yet it's currently the best IMO!

http://img-f.photosight.ru/7c4/2998167_large.jpg
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=29504842&postcount=2267

pity that Russia Tower is being "freezed" due to the crisis... :ohno:

Sarajevo Pic taken from 118m high skyscraper :cheers:

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/1926/bosmalcitycenter4628607eu7.jpg

More pics of Sarajevo skyline:

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/7569/sarajevo02xk6.jpg

http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/1525/sarajevo03uu3.jpg

Sarajevo is a nice-looking city but it lacks a highrise cluster IMO!

Moscow City is looking really nice, it's a shame that several of the buildings are on hold. The Warsaw skyline is still growing though, Złota 44 (192 m) is already up to the 10th floor, and the Twarda Tower (160 m) just got permission to start building!

Adnan, does Sarajevo have a lot of smog? Or is that just fog in the picture?

E-burg:

http://www.photodom.com/new_fotos/2008/05/25/793008.jpg

http://img-2007-11.photosight.ru/06/2397430.jpg

^^ That's absolutely wonderful!!! Best skyline in Russia IMO! :cheers:

In Eurasia :cheers:

Adnan, does Sarajevo have a lot of smog? Or is that just fog in the picture?

It is fog. Sarajevo is second most foggiest city in Bosnia after my home town Prijedor ;)

http://lifter.publicvm.com/56837BC4.jpg

Source: http://community.livejournal.com/ru_roofers/327843.html

No question about it now

Yeah, Moscow is stunning.

But once again, a skyline of commieblocks dominating!!!

For those who don't see the changes about Moscow's skyline I'm going to explain the following...
The last photo was posted to show that IBC dominates Moscow's skyline now. It is so obvious. It is already higher than the smoke/vapour towers :)

Hello all.

I haven't check all 35 pages. Did someone post this jazapp's picture?:

http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/letnaskyline04.jpg

:cheers:

But once again, a skyline of commieblocks dominating!!!

Commieblocks? I don't see any

Commieblocks? I don't see any

Have a closer look at that pic or just list the previous pages! Believe me, you'll be shocked! :D

Have a closer look at that pic or just list the previous pages! Believe me, you'll be shocked! :D
Found this on the first page, is that what you meant?

http://digart.img.digart.pl/data/img/14/46/download/797130.jpg

Seriously, why are people surprised to see commieblocks in EE!? Is that some childhood complex of yours Triceratops? :dunno:

Some people are accustomed to talk about commieblocks when they discuss skylines.
Just they don't see any buildings that could be higher than commieblocks.
Others are more lucky, they can see real skycrapers in their cities. :)
Those who talk about commieblocks (in the thread about skylines) can be compaired to those who talk about frames while discussing paintings in a museum :) (certainly, everybody expects a good frame for a good painting, but this is not very important)

Found this on the first page, is that what you meant?

http://digart.img.digart.pl/data/img/14/46/download/797130.jpg

Seriously, why are people surprised to see commieblocks in EE!? Is that some childhood complex of yours Triceratops? :dunno:


I also dunno why he is so suprized. In fact I ppl travel to EE to see commieblocks b/c they are symbols of communist era and ppl travel to EE not to see western european development and shopping - they get all that in W Europe. Many tourists travel to EE to see reminants of communism b/c EE was apex of communism. by today's standards yes, but after the war commieblocks were best way to provide ppl with homes especially in Warsaw which was totally destroyed

nek se vi cigani jebu u supak, bosna je najbolja, sarajevo is beautiful

No, you didn't get it..! I have nothing against commies, in fact, as was mentioned before, it would be impossible to imagine EE without them - they were like an indicator of majesty of communism!!! All I wanted to say is that impressive Moscow's skyline is nothing without its IBC! Moscow is formed mainly of commieblocks and that's why it can't be counted as the best one IMO, especially when we are talking about variety of arcitectural styles in skyline! Sorry if I offended someone...:)

What's wrong with commieblocks?? Now that you completely dismissed any suggestion of Moscow topping the list of top skylines, may I ask which is the best one in EE according to you? Warsaw is nothing without its own CBD and, apart from its meager historical center, still very much dominated by commieblocks. Riga/Tallinn/Vilnius "clusters" aren't even worth being mentioned here. C'mon, you're just being an ass right now.

Seriously, why are people surprised to see commieblocks in EE!? Is that some childhood complex of yours Triceratops? :dunno:

Commieblocks are everywhere, even here in Denver. But I have to agree with Triceratops that I don't see Moscow as #1 in EE, I still prefer the Warsaw skyline, it looks more natural to me...ie: develops over time, blends into the city well. I also like rectangular skyscrapers more than those with "organic" or rounded shapes.

That being said, Moscow is a different city than Warsaw, and Moscow City fits the Moscow skyline well. Of course Moscow has more skyscrapers and supertalls and is full of billionaires. But purely from an aesthetic point of view, I prefer Warsaw. :D (waiting for the inevitable 1,273 rebukes by Russian forumers)

This just shows that you guys don't know much about Moscow. Of course the IBC was not built anywhere near the historic center. The industial belt location was chosen to give it more room to grow and also to be able to built some spatious infrastructure to accomodate for the business district's needs

If you want to look at the historic center, go to Kremlin, Red Square, Manezh etc. I prefer that these things do not get mixed

Look at the pic of Warsaw, it is a sea of commieblocks, nothing special at all, right? ;)

When we talk about skyline on SSC we normally value tall skyscrapers ;)

it looks more natural to me
Loser's favourite argument ;)

When we talk about skyline on SSC we normally value tall skyscrapers ;)

Of course ;)

Loser's favourite argument ;)

Ok, if you want me to get technical, I will:

1) Warsaw's skyline is near the historic center, which gives it a nice "built-up" urban feel.

2) The view from the Wisła River, with the old town in the foreground, and the new skyscrapers rising in the back, is just awesome, and looks much better than just the Moscow City area by itself (with no older historic buildings around it).

3) Like I said, I like rectangular skyscrapers more than organic rounded shapes.

^^That is why for me Warsaw beats Moscow skyline (ie: Moscow City). It's not because Moscow looks bad, Warsaw just looks better overall. So get over it. I'm not calling Russians losers because I think our skyline is nicer. You shouldn't either.

^^ Indeed Gamma. I think most people would say that a small town or village would look natural too :)

Neopolak, I would be surprised if you said something else

The fact is (and you know it ;)) if Warsaw was Moscow and Moscow was Warsaw you would be singing a whole different song :D


p.s. Historic center and business district should be kept appart, this is what cities like Moscow, Londow and Paris have done

yeah russian nationalism is also the biggest in this thread. just like like moscow skylikne

yeah russian nationalism is also the biggest in this thread. just like like moscow skylikne
Perhaps an example would help us understand what you mean? :dunno:

Don't you see that this discussion is pointless? Everybody tries to convince the whole world that his city is the best:)

Neopolak, I would be surprised if you said something else

The fact is (and you know it ;)) if Warsaw was Moscow and Moscow was Warsaw you would be singing a whole different song :D


We'll just have to leave it at that. I can't help it that I'm Polish not Russian. :D


p.s. Historic center and business district should be kept appart, this is what cities like Moscow, Londow and Paris have done

I don't agree. Moscow, London, and Paris may have done it, but each city is different.

What I think is that there's no point arguing about where skyscrapers would look better, the thing is that whether they fit for the city or not! In Moscow's case - they do, IBC is a saviour of monotonous commieblocks' skyline, it really makes an impressive accent to indifferent roof surfaces of communist era structures!!!

IBC is a saviour of monotonous commieblocks' skyline, it really makes an impressive accent to indifferent roof surfaces of communist era structures!!!Not only IBC
In early 1950ies Moscow built 7 sisters - the tallest skyscrapers in Europe then, one can see 4 of them on the following pic

http://s54.radikal.ru/i144/0810/c7/d3e8dc7fef12.jpg
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=594022&page=3

Moscow never sleeps
http://chistoprudov.ru/livejournal/roofs/mirax-plaza/01.jpg

http://chistoprudov.ru/livejournal/roofs/mirax-plaza/04.jpg

http://lifter.publicvm.com/56837BC4.jpg

Yep, Moscow City is the best skyscraper cluster on Europe!!! :banana:

I Agree:D

Not only IBC
In early 1950ies Moscow built 7 sisters - the tallest skyscrapers in Europe then, 4 of them one can see on the following pic

http://s54.radikal.ru/i144/0810/c7/d3e8dc7fef12.jpg
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=594022&page=3

yep, classic Moscow skyline. That's real Moscow skyline for me, unique.

^^ Actually that is true! Without IBC there would be only 7 sistrers and unfinishing horizon of commieblocks.

http://russos.ru/img/moscow/moscow-090.jpg

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Author: lifter_is_here (http://lifter-is-here.livejournal.com/)

^^Hmm no commies in sight. Moscow looks as usual stunnng. Commies are outside the city center.

Well i see 'commies', but photo is great

I see not only commies, but also sheds and ruins..:ohno:

^ah come on guys. of course you see a few commies but what you actually see a huge historical center.

P.s sheds and ruins are commong among world cities, I saw them even in Paris and London. So don't be that naive.

I see not only commies, but also sheds and ruins..:ohno:The pig will find dirt everywhere :) (old Russian proverb)
PS I don't refer to anybody in particular :)

I've got a recent photo of the best skyscraper cluster in Europe! Guess where it is? :lol:

Photo by Pavel Shirov:
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/4034/moskvacitydu6.jpg

I've got a recent photo of the best skyscraper cluster in Europe! Guess where it is? :lol:

Photo by Pavel Shirov:
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/4034/moskvacitydu6.jpg

But that pic doesn't show Frankfurt.. :dunno:

But that pic doesn't show Frankfurt.. :dunno:

Are you kidding?? That's a pic of the most stunning, the most perspective and the most beautiful skyscraper cluster in whole Europe - Moscow-City!! :)

I love this pic...reminds me of Frankfurt.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3216/2972660654_5ca4bdf04a_b.jpg

Few photos of Dnipro and one from Donec'k
http://gorod.dp.ua/photo/usergorod/2009/01/01/22605.jpg
http://gorod.dp.ua/photo/usergorod/2008/12/28/22524.jpg
http://gorod.dp.ua/photo/usergorod/2008/12/21/22294.jpg
http://gorod.dp.ua/photo/usergorod/2008/12/24/22360.jpg
http://gorod.dp.ua/photo/usergorod/2008/12/26/22480.jpg
http://i005.radikal.ru/0811/1b/86be506242b5.jpg

^^^ :puke: