Best Skylines in Eastern Europe [Archive] - Page 5

tomi1975

March 16th, 2010, 11:02 AM

^^ Polish szlachta? WOW! You've seen to many propaganda movies in you short life...
It is hard to take any picture of Warsaw's skyline without PKiN - in fact the building is in the very centre of Warsaw, that's why you can see it on almost every picture, simple - isn't that? PKiN is not really succesfull design, its value comes from it's age, now it is listed building and shows how wicked and aberrant was way of thinking of its designers. In fact PKiN is build against the city as a symbol of soviet domination. Now it is just another commercial skyscraper in the city, which is due to be surrounded by higher skyscrapers.
Got it?

AlekseyVT

March 16th, 2010, 11:45 AM

In fact PKiN is build against the city as a symbol of soviet domination. Now it is just another commercial skyscraper in the city, which is due to be surrounded by higher skyscrapers.
Got it?

The symbol of Soviet occupation? Any great monument is symbol of power - imperial power (Egyptian pyramids, Taj Mahal, Versailles, many etc.), religious power (Notre Dame de Paris, St. Peter Cathedral, many etc.) or military power (Triumphal arches, Trafalgar Square, many etc.) You can continue your political games - I'm sorry, but it's not for me. :ohno: I hope that your government will have enough sense to not destroy the Soviet symbol.

AlekseyVT

March 16th, 2010, 11:46 AM

del.

tomi1975

March 16th, 2010, 12:02 PM

The symbol of Soviet occupation? Any great monument is symbol of power - imperial power (Egyptian pyramids, Taj Mahal, Versailles, many etc.), religious power (Notre Dame de Paris, St. Peter Cathedral, many etc.) or military power (Triumphal arches, Trafalgar Square, many etc.) You can continue your political games - I'm sorry, but it's not for me. :ohno: I hope that your government will have enough sense to not destroy the Soviet symbol.

Look guy, you've started all that "polish szlachta" and all that bashing polish skyscrapers without giving ANY reason, ANY point. So start reasonable discussion or get out of this topic. If anybody plays political games - it's you. Oppostite to you I have no problems with saying positive as well as negative opinions about Moscows/Warsaws/Vilnius/etc. scrapers, I try to be rational in my opinions and always try to explain it. Start talking about architecture. EOT

AlekseyVT

March 16th, 2010, 12:43 PM

Look guy, you've started all that "polish szlachta" and all that bashing polish skyscrapers without giving ANY reason, ANY point. So start reasonable discussion or get out of this topic. If anybody plays political games - it's you. Oppostite to you I have no problems with saying positive as well as negative opinions about Moscows/Warsaws/Vilnius/etc. scrapers, I try to be rational in my opinions and always try to explain it. Start talking about architecture. EOT

I has already said - I think this Palace is best building in Warsaw, because it's more elegant and have a national signs. Many Polish Pans don't like this building only because it was built by Soviets workers - but this is their personal problem. Skyscrapers, which are located nearby are big monotone blocks ( "penals"). For this reason, I consider them as faceless.

In contrast, I consider that new Moscow skyscrapers are more diverse and multifaceted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_Capitals
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naberezhnaya_Tower
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triumph_Palace
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federation_Tower
http://mgreport.narod.ru/zd_mos3/IMG_1898.jpg
http://mgreport.narod.ru/zd_mos3/IMG_1713.jpg
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Edelweiss,_Moscow.jpg
http://www.mosnovostroy.ru/realty/283/
http://www.world-art.ru/architecture/galery.php?id=4989&&number_img=1

tomi1975

March 16th, 2010, 01:10 PM

I has already said - I think this Palace is best building in Warsaw, because it's more elegant and have a national signs. Many Polish Pans don't like this building only because it was built by Soviets workers - but this is their personal problem. Skyscrapers, which are located nearby are big monotone blocks ( "penals"). For this reason, I consider them as faceless.

In contrast, I consider that new Moscow skyscrapers are more diverse and multifaceted.

http://mgreport.narod.ru/zd_mos3/IMG_1898.jpg
http://mgreport.narod.ru/zd_mos3/IMG_1713.jpg
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Edelweiss,_Moscow.jpg
http://www.mosnovostroy.ru/realty/283/
http://www.world-art.ru/architecture/galery.php?id=4989&&number_img=1

^^If this is good architecture in your opinion then we are definately thinking in different ways...to me all buildings shown above are just junk. Why don't you show pictures of Mosfilm Tower? It is really good and fresh design. I wish to see something like that in Warsaw. BTW I discussed that some time ago in this thread...

AlekseyVT

March 16th, 2010, 01:52 PM

http://mgreport.narod.ru/zd_mos3/IMG_1898.jpg
http://mgreport.narod.ru/zd_mos3/IMG_1713.jpg
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Edelweiss,_Moscow.jpg
http://www.mosnovostroy.ru/realty/283/
http://www.world-art.ru/architecture/galery.php?id=4989&&number_img=1

^^If this is good architecture in your opinion then we are definately thinking in different ways...to me all buildings shown above are just junk. Why don't you show pictures of Mosfilm Tower? It is really good and fresh design. I wish to see something like that in Warsaw. BTW I discussed that some time ago in this thread...

I didn't expect different opinion from you. I didn't made reference to Mosfilm Tower, because:
1) the building of this tower is very far from finish;
2) this tower is real example of brutal and terrible modern architecture.

http://mgreport.narod.ru/zd_mos3/IMG_1893.jpg

Iluminat

March 16th, 2010, 02:10 PM

^^It's much better than this asian looking towers, we would be ashamed if something like that was being built in Warsaw you can check some old threads about weird projects if you don't believe... Anyway you might be right about the "Palace" it's certainly more interesting than most of this newer sckyscrapers but it wasn't built only by "soviet peoples" afaik there were also Hungarians.

Triceratops

March 16th, 2010, 03:07 PM

The truth is that PKiN is a masterpiece of its era, that was that time, it was a symbol of mightiness! Even now it looks impressive and it is still a great reminder of history, no point in bashing this building, it's really ok, and it's preserved in a nice condition! What's more, I bet, the modern skyline of Warsaw wouldn't be that great looking if without this structure. For those glassy high boxes it is a great diversity to have such a magnificent and rather imperious building!

tomi1975

March 16th, 2010, 03:42 PM

^^ I partially agree, but we cannot forget that PKiN took place of lots of townhouses (many of them really valuable). Also the way it corresponds ( or rather it doesn't) with the rest of the City is below any standards. Palace itself is an example of good craftmanship and consequence. It was designed and built from single latch to the elevation, that's the PKiN's value. Like I said urbanism of the Palace is really bad and that's why it is so hard to build anything in its neighbourhood. To make it clear I think PKiN should be preseved, but it's influence on the city should be reduced.

Elvenking

March 16th, 2010, 03:57 PM

http://mgreport.narod.ru/zd_mos3/IMG_1898.jpg

You've got to be kidding :lol: That's one of ugliest buildings I've ever seen. Would fit in some poorest asian countries, and yet you try to say, that such buildings are better than...

http://www.immoactiv.pl/admin/img/im/rondo1.jpg

Sorry, but I (and I think almost all polish forumers here) prefer European architecture in our cities, rather than Asian style. People of East like, when everything is colorful, huge, pseudo-historical and so on. I don't buy it.

Elvenking

March 16th, 2010, 04:00 PM

Gamma-Hamster

March 16th, 2010, 04:20 PM

Poles have absolutely no taste in architecture, no surprise here.

tomi1975

March 16th, 2010, 04:38 PM

Oh no, taliban once again....:drool:

Let's get back to real discussion.

AlekseyVT

March 16th, 2010, 05:22 PM

You've got to be kidding :lol: That's one of ugliest buildings I've ever seen. Would fit in some poorest asian countries, and yet you try to say, that such buildings are better than...

Sorry, but I (and I think almost all polish forumers here) prefer European architecture in our cities, rather than Asian style. People of East like, when everything is colorful, huge, pseudo-historical and so on. I don't buy it. Excuse me, no offense of course, but for me, in terms of architecture Rotterdam or Paris are better examples to follow, than Moscow.

No problems here.
New Moscow at this pages:
http://mosday.ru/photos/gallery.php?group=hi-tech&size=9&alt=6&rows=all

mlody89

March 16th, 2010, 06:03 PM

Poles have absolutely no taste in architecture, no surprise here.

Russians have?:bash::bash:

tomi1975

March 16th, 2010, 06:20 PM

Stop it. Please, calm down.

warden987

March 16th, 2010, 06:42 PM

Poles are very sensitive to their Warsaw, aren't they? The fact is that Palace of Culture is still the most prominent landmark building in Warsaw and will be untill it outtopped by a taller building. What's wrong with this building? If you don't know it was the second tallest in the world outside the US after the Moscow State University in the 1950s. Poles should be proud of that I think. Btw, any plans of a taller building in Warsaw?

But as for me, I would rather have this building built in Leningrad in those times. There would have been no controversy about it then.

warden987

March 16th, 2010, 06:53 PM

Russians have?:bash::bash:

Sure they have, no doubt about that.

warden987

March 16th, 2010, 06:54 PM

http://mgreport.narod.ru/zd_mos3/IMG_1898.jpg
http://mgreport.narod.ru/zd_mos3/IMG_1713.jpg
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Edelweiss,_Moscow.jpg
http://www.mosnovostroy.ru/realty/283/
http://www.world-art.ru/architecture/galery.php?id=4989&&number_img=1

^^If this is good architecture in your opinion then we are definately thinking in different ways...to me all buildings shown above are just junk. Why don't you show pictures of Mosfilm Tower? It is really good and fresh design. I wish to see something like that in Warsaw. BTW I discussed that some time ago in this thread...

The last in your list is actually a good one. Can't see what's wrong with that building's fitting in with your taste.

tomi1975

March 16th, 2010, 07:14 PM

Everyone is sensitive to their capital city, want to say russians aren't?
I agree with you I would rather prefer PKiN to be built in Leningrad, I put pre-war Warsaw townhouses over this brutal form. Like I said before I much more prefer that type of urban structure: "Also the way it corresponds ( or rather it doesn't) with the rest of the City is below any standards. Palace itself is an example of good craftmanship and consequence. It was designed and built from single latch to the elevation, that's the PKiN's value. Like I said urbanism of the Palace is really bad and that's why it is so hard to build anything in its neighbourhood. To make it clear I think PKiN should be preseved, but it's influence on the city should be reduced."

http://www.world-art.ru/architecture...&&number_img=1
- this is very primitive, naive and cheap design, agree or not...

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=40269540&postcount=1025 check this thread to see masterplan for central area of Warsaw. Don't get architecture shown tehere to seriously it's just block model which shows scale, height, volume of proposed development. Also check this thread to see other proposed or u/c tall buildings in Warsaw: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=499765

warden987

March 16th, 2010, 07:35 PM

tomi1975

March 17th, 2010, 10:39 AM

^^ To take it all seriously?Lol, I am not that naïve. Btw, I really wouldn't like to be bothered by going through all 53 pages of your second link, so I would pose my question more concisely. How many buildings taller than 230 m. are u/c or planned in the next 3 years?

You ask I answer. If you want to know something then read, If you want to practice show off go somewhere else. Skyline is not only about height, it also about quality, balance, proportions, etc, it is not about dick measuring...

warden987

March 17th, 2010, 03:18 PM

^^ The last thing I want is to showboat. :nuts: I asked you did not answer, that's the point.

tomi1975

March 17th, 2010, 04:04 PM

Darhet

March 17th, 2010, 04:25 PM

The last in your list is actually a good one. Can't see what's wrong with that building's fitting in with your taste.

If it is a good architecture, good for you!

warden987

March 17th, 2010, 05:04 PM

Man, please read with understanding, want to really know something? Enter threads, search, information is there - this forum is about it.
Ok, why 230m? Why 3 years? Any reasonable explanation ( except you want to say that Moscow has more, better, highier, wealthier, and so one..)?

OK, all is crystal clear with you.:) Why 230? Guess why. Why 3 years? OK, the 230 is going to be the architectural landmark in Warsaw in the next 3 years for sure.

tomi1975

March 17th, 2010, 05:09 PM

Have you got anything to say on topic? If not then just don't waste my time with your primitive provocations.

tomi1975

March 17th, 2010, 05:27 PM

OK, all is crystal clear with you.:) Why 230? Guess why. Why 3 years? OK, the 230 is going to be the architectural landmark in Warsaw in the next 3 years for sure.

This is obvious. I meant why PKiN is a fetish for you? You've said a lot and nothing. Show off...Any reason why you are so against Warsaw and avoid using arguments? I asked you to go thru few threads to get some knowledge about plans for Warsaw. You're to lazy to do that but not enuogh lazy to post malicious comments. So kindly ask you, learn something about Warsaw (not only about PKiN) and then lets talk. I'm not defending Warsaw, there are many really bad buildings as well as good ones in Warsaw, it applies to all cities of the World. Lets talk about it. If you want...

warden987

March 17th, 2010, 06:38 PM

Where are malicious and spiteful comments about Warsaw? Where? Show my posts. The only thing that I have been trying to tell is that PKiN is the most prominent building for right now and I do think it will be until it is overtopped by a taller skyscraper.

Another thing. I have kindly asked you to show me links to taller future skyscrapers that are planned. I am not a Pole so I thought you might know better than me with those buildings. You have begun somewhat dodging. So let's settle it, OK? Well if you wish,I am lazy to go all over skyscrapercity in quest of those buildings. Please show me the real projects and everything will be fine then.

tomi1975

March 17th, 2010, 07:11 PM

One of links could guide you to a thread in english. I just don't want (and do not have time) to repeat all of its content. The plan for PKiN surrounding is just a Development Plan which presents design guidelines for developers and architects. You are questioning its probability, ok, but development of that area will take lets say 15-20 years. It gives a serious chance to get something ca. 300m tall in that area or a bit lower. For me its ok. PKiN is a landmark, like I said I like its architecture but the way it relates to city structure i a catastrophy. That's why the Masterplan is so essential and it takes so much time to finalise it. Once again, don't take architecture shown on Masterplan visuals too seriously, it's just someones dreams. The only real information that comes from that is height, volume, function, etc.

Ok, especially for you few midrises and scrapers currently or soon u/c:

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/2/6084/z6084782X.jpg
http://www.schmidt-landschaftsarchitekten.de/upload/warschau2378bda0b.jpg

^^residential tower ca 160m - design by Mrphy/Jahn, u/c

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/0/7672/z7672330X,Wizualizacja-Warsaw-Spire.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/0/7672/z7672100X,Makieta-Warsaw-Spire-podczas-targow-w-Cannes.jpg

^^Office tower in Wola district, I'm not sure about height 220m (?), pict. by Gazeta Wyborcza

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/ringssc/placulub2.jpg
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/ringssc/placulub6.jpg

^^Nice midrise in Mokotow district

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/391/zlota15marca.jpg

^^Zlota 44, u/c but stopped by crisis. Picture by Zbieraj

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/852/41225316gf2.jpg

^^residential tower by Hadid, proposed

Check this link, it shows only selected proposals for Warsaw:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=584323
Obviously some of proposed buildings are not really interesting.

Triceratops

March 17th, 2010, 07:29 PM

Wow, these are terrific projects indeed! They seem way nicer than those simple glassy boxes of MIBC!

warden987

March 17th, 2010, 07:44 PM

Tomi1975, it's nice that we have come to understanding finally, many thanks for the pictures.

Perun

March 17th, 2010, 08:34 PM

Also construction of this tower should be start in this year

Atrium South [~140 m]

http://www.skanska.pl/upload/Products_&_Services/_Property/Future%20projects/Atrium%20South/Atrium%20South_2.jpg

http://wiezowce.waw.pl/atrium02.jpg

Triceratops

March 19th, 2010, 04:22 PM

You just shoud love the fact that Warsaw is becoming more and more dense with all those highrises, thus it should be the city with the biggest amount of highrises in Europe soon!

tomi1975

March 19th, 2010, 05:27 PM

I think Warsaw will have medium sized skyline, not the tallest in EE but quite impressive and interesting. Anyway it looks that cirsis is over and developers are slowly getting back to work.

DocentX

March 23rd, 2010, 08:26 PM

Warsaw

http://digart.img.digart.pl/data/img/vol1/17/71/download/4339804.jpg

http://digart.img.digart.pl/data/img/vol0/26/89/download/4156670.jpg

http://digart.img.digart.pl/data/img/vol3/34/22/download/1169830.jpg

Brad

March 24th, 2010, 12:11 AM

good photos

Petr

March 24th, 2010, 03:01 PM

Why not? If the Polish Szlachta are made so much city panoramas with this Palace, so why I should have another opinion? New Polish skyscrapers are faceless, how I think.
"Polish Szlachta"? Coś z tobą nie tak kolego... :ohno:
You're tone depreciates all your arguments.
Poles are very sensitive to their Warsaw, aren't they? The fact is that Palace of Culture is still the most prominent landmark building in Warsaw and will be untill it outtopped by a taller building. What's wrong with this building? If you don't know it was the second tallest in the world outside the US after the Moscow State University in the 1950s. Poles should be proud of that I think. Btw, any plans of a taller building in Warsaw?

But as for me, I would rather have this building built in Leningrad in those times. There would have been no controversy about it then.
There's an urban legend that Stalin asked Gomułka (Polish communist leader), what Poles want as a gift from the Soviet nation: new residential district, hospital, subway line or the Palace. It's only a legend, because we haven't have any choice. But that legend shows, that we've got the last thing necessary for a city rising from ashes, simply symbol of the foreign dominance.
The Palace won't be demolished, only chance for that solution was rejected 20 years ago. Now it has official status of the historical monument and we accepted it's existence, but the Palace has some bad impact on its surroundings. It occupies a lot of space in the strict city center. Tower itself is only a small piece of it.
http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/7939/11eg.jpg

Buildings noticeable tallest then the Palace won't be built any time soon, Warsaw is too small to justify construction of so tall buildings by economic reasons. It shows only an absurdity of building it in the 50's.
http://www.pkin.pl/public/gallery/79/thumbs_max/palac8.jpg
http://www.pkin.pl/public/gallery/79/thumbs_max/palac4.jpg
http://www.pkin.pl/public/gallery/79/thumbs_max/palac5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/stpiotr/0797B.jpg?t=1269435394
http://frw.fc.pl/plac_defilad/Images/pkin_stary.jpg
http://www.michau.se/pics/other_pics/warszawa/skany/kupiecki_1960/pkin_1_web.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/2/6084/z6084782X.jpg
http://www.schmidt-landschaftsarchitekten.de/upload/warschau2378bda0b.jpg

^^residential tower ca 160m - design by Mrphy/Jahn, u/c
Approved, yet not under construction. Main contractor wasn't even chosen.

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/391/zlota15marca.jpg

^^Zlota 44, u/c but stopped by crisis. Picture by Zbieraj
On hold, and there's not any reliable date of resuming of the construction.

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/852/41225316gf2.jpg

^^residential tower by Hadid, proposed
On hold, and most probably won't be ever built in that shape.

void0

March 24th, 2010, 04:02 PM

This one looks boring. It requires better rendering though...
http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/2/6084/z6084782X.jpg

Petr

March 24th, 2010, 04:28 PM

It's our favourite. In Warsaw we love boxes. :)
Its façade should be similar with that designed by Murphy&Jahn for Chicago.
http://www.aiachicago.org/special_features/2009DEA/images/full/res_132_03Fairbanks.jpg

Triceratops

March 24th, 2010, 08:43 PM

Amazing how Warsaw looked by the time this terrific structure was being constructed.. So not dense.. That's why the skyscrapers are the best way to make a good impression of the city, hope there will be more soon!

AlekseyVT

March 24th, 2010, 10:36 PM

"Polish Szlachta"? Coś z tobą nie tak kolego... :ohno:
You're tone depreciates all your arguments.

What's wrong with it, Pan Petr? The "Szlachta" was the name of the aristocratic part of the Polish population, which mostly consisted from poor-educated peasants and commoners one century ago.

Today these Polenya, who can speak English and understand something in architecture, can be named as "Szlachta".

Triceratops

March 25th, 2010, 05:53 PM

^ Dude, you're offending Poles by stating that, they are such a sesitive nation, you know.. Better show us some pics! :)

Iluminat

March 25th, 2010, 11:02 PM

Szlachta wasn't famous for being fluent in foreign languages anyway if you talk about uneducated peasants etc. it was even worse in Russia.

AlekseyVT

March 26th, 2010, 12:00 AM

^ Dude, you're offending Poles by stating that, they are such a sesitive nation, you know.. Better show us some pics! :)

You are right. Unfortunately, I know this nation, because I have the experience of reading Polish newspapers and speaking with the Polish peoples at other English-speaking forums. I'm find that Poles have a very big ego opinion about themselves and their nation. :ohno: For this reason I'm like to some tease them at the forums. :) It's always nice to see the reaction of selfish persons, when the real facts are contradict their high self-esteem. :lol:

AlekseyVT

March 26th, 2010, 12:11 AM

Szlachta wasn't famous for being fluent in foreign languages anyway if you talk about uneducated peasants etc. it was even worse in Russia.

May be, you forgot that during this times Poland was no more than a Russian Gubernia (province)? :lol:

Darhet

March 26th, 2010, 12:41 AM

This one looks boring. It requires better rendering though...
http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/2/6084/z6084782X.jpg

I really like the modernist skyscrapers:cheers:

Iluminat

March 26th, 2010, 01:41 AM

May be, you forgot that during this times Poland was no more than a Russian Gubernia (province)? :lol:

Wow Russia was so strong in the past :yes: But also quite poor and backwards so luckily our culture was safe because Russian culture was too primitive to be attractive to us. If it was Prussia it might turn out differently for us...

golov

March 26th, 2010, 01:59 AM

Of course the Prussians didn't have anything to do with the partition of Poland

Anyways, lets get back to skylines

AlekseyVT

March 26th, 2010, 10:13 AM

Wow Russia was so strong in the past :yes: But also quite poor and backwards so luckily our culture was safe because Russian culture was too primitive to be attractive to us. If it was Prussia it might turn out differently for us...

Polish culture???? What is it????? :lol:

tomi1975

March 26th, 2010, 11:14 AM

Where's mod? Stop that, go back to architecture and skylines. We should not react to primitive provocations...

AlekseyVT

March 26th, 2010, 01:51 PM

Where's mod? Stop that, go back to architecture and skylines. We should not react to primitive provocations...

Of course, I don't want to say that all Poles are the same. Without any doubts, there are still some decent and adequate people among them.

paku

March 26th, 2010, 04:18 PM

Of course, I don't want to say that all Poles are the same. Without any doubts, there are still some decent and adequate people among them.

Same can be said about Russians, but you're not one of them.

crapzoid

March 26th, 2010, 04:33 PM

Poland this, Russia that. Yada yada yada.

Is it really that hard to discuss and share photos of skylines? :ohno:

Darhet

March 26th, 2010, 05:33 PM

Can anyone ban this AlekseyVT?You don't even know what is in the registry do you?This is theread about Skylines in Eastern Europe!

Iluminat

March 27th, 2010, 12:06 AM

Polish culture???? What is it????? :lol:

Culture of Masters:yes:

Elvenking

March 27th, 2010, 12:13 AM

Don't feed the troll :ohno:

Triceratops

March 27th, 2010, 01:26 PM

Culture of Masters:yes:

You know, that's not the way to answer such dumb provocations..!
Just let's stick to some skylines, better something not from Poland at least for a while!

CrazySerb

March 30th, 2010, 03:34 AM

Little something from Belgrade then...while not exactly skyscrapers, these two projects will have a great impact on the city's skyline:

Avala Tower - just rebuilt and still awaiting its official opening sometime in April:

http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee350/mpetar/beograd/bg-mart-2010-04.jpg

Pylon of Belgrade's new bridge across Sava river has reached the height of ~60 meters, or less than one third of its final height of 200 meters:

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/3953/adabridge1.jpg

Once finished, it will look like that:

http://www.savabridge.com/images/poze/sava7_b.jpg

http://www.savabridge.com/images/poze/sava15_b.jpg

http://www.savabridge.com/images/poze/sava20_b.jpg

http://www.savabridge.com/images/poze/sava8_b.jpg

Vikusz

March 30th, 2010, 05:34 PM

Oh, Belgrade's map is very similar to Budapest. And we have also a similar bridge near Budapest.. :"D

Triceratops

March 31st, 2010, 06:46 PM

Nice projects, especially that bridge, but how about a general view of Belgrade? :)

Elvenking

April 1st, 2010, 12:45 AM

^^ Here you are... ;)

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/9603/beograd7ur.jpg

May have some nice historical buildings, but I don't think it fits here.

Triceratops

April 1st, 2010, 02:07 PM

^ What are those highrises in the far background of this pic? If construct just few more, that would become a great cluster! :banana:

Quicksilver

April 5th, 2010, 05:42 PM

Kyiv by Levshev (http://ked-pled.livejournal.com/178197.html#cutid1)

http://img-kiev.fotki.yandex.ru/get/4307/levshev.69/0_45249_d609a794_orig

Donetsk by ramatoru:

http://s43.radikal.ru/i102/1004/33/b87a3f26b20d.jpg

http://s42.radikal.ru/i096/1004/df/9b7b765e8fbb.jpg

Triceratops

April 5th, 2010, 06:40 PM

It's hard to decide whether highrises do fit Donetsk or not. IMO, thy are the best solution only in Kyiv's case, but Donetsk and Kharkiv don't need them so much. Probably the problem is that developers build whatever and wherever in Ukraine. :ohno: Does there exist an official city development plan?
The only thing that improves Donetsk skyline a lot is the brand new "Shakhtar Stadium"!

crapzoid

April 6th, 2010, 03:24 AM

It's hard to decide whether highrises do fit Donetsk or not. IMO, thy are the best solution only in Kyiv's case, but Donetsk and Kharkiv don't need them so much. Probably the problem is that developers build whatever and wherever in Ukraine. :ohno: Does there exist an official city development plan?The only thing that improves Donetsk skyline a lot is the brand new "Shakhtar Stadium"!

It might explain the lack of Kyiv skyline photos, I suppose. Despite this the city has oodles of great highrises/skyscrapers.

Darhet

April 6th, 2010, 04:10 AM

Kyiv

I see two decent skyscrapers and lots of commieblocks -highrises

highest building in the country 141.2m:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/33/Kiev_skyscrapers.JPG

http://s004.radikal.ru/i207/1001/3a/a3d1c9493a15.jpg

http://perhapzz.35photo.ru/photos/20091103/110146.jpg

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/2189/941105.jpg

http://lanet.kiev.ua/~gerasimov/lj/panorama1/panorama.jpg

http://www.eeeee.ch/photos/albums/cityscapes/sIMG_0643.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3011/3111902492_66a096732d_b.jpg

http://s56.radikal.ru/i154/1001/f0/1d2ddfe0b35b.jpg

http://s40.radikal.ru/i090/1001/25/97bdcbbd0664.jpg

http://s47.radikal.ru/i116/1001/39/6ae00f928a66.jpg

http://g.io.ua/img_aa/large/1061/39/10613913.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4114/raskalov.1a/0_1b9b6_b7ed1b3f_orig

http://lanet.kiev.ua/~gerasimov/lj/Kiev/vecher/levoberezhka_panorama_midlle.jpg

http://perhapzz.35photo.ru/photos/20090816/98469.jpg

http://perhapzz.35photo.ru/photos/20090828/100197.jpg

http://pics.livejournal.com/tov_tob/pic/000ad0xg

crapzoid

April 6th, 2010, 05:48 AM

I really like the glass on those two highrises in question. Quality skyscrapers.

We need to hurry up and build more.

Triceratops

April 6th, 2010, 02:19 PM

Kyiv has an amazing charm! That's why I think it is definately among the leaders in the region! Really nice skyline from all the perspectives! :cheers:

poorger

April 6th, 2010, 06:52 PM

ZAGREB, CROATIA

http://www.imagesforme.com/upload/532a94bf.jpg

Perun

April 6th, 2010, 10:51 PM

Whole Warsaw skyline :D

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1339/big32kopia.jpg

Brad

April 7th, 2010, 10:08 AM

good job

Triceratops

April 7th, 2010, 06:07 PM

Not bad even with commies, they are all revitalized after all! :) The downtown stands out terrifically! :cheers:

crapzoid

April 8th, 2010, 05:09 AM

There's nothing wrong with commies in a skyline just as long as they're not somewhat gritty. Clean, looked after commies are awesome. :banana:

Vikusz

April 10th, 2010, 06:53 PM

Darhet

April 10th, 2010, 08:12 PM

omg! The city is full of highrises ( commies)
Now i know why nobody mention Warsaw which worst to visit.. :D

But despite this case i was in Krakow and on the south part of the country. And it was awesome (Y)

Warsaw is like Moscow (but smaller), has a nice site and the ugly.
Like any other large city in the world.

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/7673/1011sty64.jpg

http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae339/filosss2010/DSCF3771.jpg?t=1263385889

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/2769/wolaviewdawn.jpg

Iluminat

April 10th, 2010, 08:47 PM

^^Not that I hate Moscow but Warsaw is not very similar, Minsk is more like a "little" cleaner Moscow.

crapzoid

April 11th, 2010, 05:19 AM

^^Not that I hate Moscow but Warsaw is not very similar, Minsk is more like a "little" cleaner Moscow.

Yep, just without skyscrapers. But needless to say we've a few building now.

:banana:

Triceratops

April 11th, 2010, 07:43 PM

^ Oh really?! Why don't you share that vision of Minsk with us? Haven't seen this nice city for a long time! :)

crapzoid

April 12th, 2010, 06:12 AM

Of course I will, though I reckon the future skylines thread would be a more appropriate place to post some of these projects. :)

Quicksilver

April 19th, 2010, 09:41 PM

By riverezua

Kyiv

http://img-kiev.fotki.yandex.ru/get/8/rivarezua.0/0_235e9_bf2f3b0a_orig.jpg

mlody89

April 19th, 2010, 10:13 PM

warsaw
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9104/68891154.jpg
by SoboleuS

Triceratops

April 20th, 2010, 06:03 PM

^ That's a strange sight for a European capital, when there's so plenty of green areas not far from it! But good to see this! :)

delfin_pl

April 20th, 2010, 08:02 PM

by dzbyn

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6678/igp3245.jpg

Quicksilver

April 21st, 2010, 12:57 AM

Kyiv again by elektaua
http://photoe.kiev.ua/Photos/Kr_L7/_MG_9054_SM.jpg

http://community.livejournal.com/interesniy_kiev/2742105.html#cutid1

Belgrader

April 21st, 2010, 02:23 AM

Not really a skyline, but very nice panorama. (Actually in EE only Warsaw and Moscow have true skyline, but every city is beautiful)

http://www.beogradac.com/galerija/albums/userpics/Balon_140.jpg

Ivanski

April 21st, 2010, 02:36 PM

few shots from Sofia huge skyline :p

http://i42.tinypic.com/4so07p.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/2zqempy.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/2mrcev5.jpg

Triceratops

April 21st, 2010, 04:45 PM

That's a really interesting skyline of Sofia. Just few midrises but the environment, especially the mountains make it very special!

Ivanski

April 22nd, 2010, 12:06 AM

There are some more midrises around, but too randomly placed to form any real skyline :D

Quicksilver

May 7th, 2010, 06:35 PM

Dnipropetrovsk as always rules:

http://gorod.dp.ua/photo/usergorod/2010/04/28/52753.jpg

Triceratops

May 7th, 2010, 10:46 PM

^ This city is an absolute leader in category of waterfront skyline IMO as mainly all the impressions are raised due to its structures' vicinity to the river bank! :cheers:

Darhet

May 8th, 2010, 05:31 AM

few shots from Sofia huge skyline :p

http://i44.tinypic.com/2mrcev5.jpg

Nice Sofia^^I like this.

But what about : Millenium Center 3x24fl,112m ? Capital Fort 125,80m,27fl and Europe Park Sofia 209,3m,43f?

Darhet

May 8th, 2010, 05:37 AM

Dnipropetrovsk as always rules:

This City is my favorite city in Ukraine. :)

But what about :«БРАМА ,54 fl , 180+ m? and ДНЕПР-ТАУЭР, 42 fl, 240 m?

Darhet

May 8th, 2010, 06:07 AM

Warsaw
Twarda Tower 160m, 43 fl
https://sites.google.com/site/pikmodels/_/rsrc/1272799182415/home/Clipboard01.jpg

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/8304/img4603p.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/6/7850/z7850276X.jpg

Close to other skyscrapers (north downtown)like PKIN 230m,LIM 140m,40fl,Oxford tower 140m,42fl,Orco tower 116m,26fl, Złota 44 192m,54 fl (on Hold but this year Construction will begin after the court verdict), WCF 144m,32fl, Rondo1 160m,40fl ,IC 170m 45fl will be:
Twarda Tower 160m, 43 fl,:

http://warszawa.gazeta.pl/warszawa/1..._wiezowca.html

In the center begins construction of 160-meter skyscraper
From May 2010 to the end of the 2012 U/C
Michael Wojtczuk
2010-05-06, last modified 2010-05-06 16:05

In May, construction of a skyscraper starts at the junction of hard and Emilia Plater, which will house apartments, hotel and offices. This will be the first skyscraper, whose construction began after the outbreak of the crisis. Will be put into service in late 2012
Investor skyscraper is owned by Hines, in Warsaw, which we know from the construction, including Metropolitan office building on the com. Pilsudski. On Thursday announced the signing of a contract with Hochtief Poland, which will put the building. Construction will start in May and will last 30 months.

Studio building, designed by German architect Helmut Jahn will have a double glass facade.

Ivanski

May 9th, 2010, 01:28 AM

Nice Sofia^^I like this.

But what about : Millenium Center 3x24fl,112m ? Capital Fort 125,80m,27fl and Europe Park Sofia 209,3m,43f?

First two are U/C , the third is frozen by the crisis.

Triceratops

May 9th, 2010, 02:43 PM

I believe soon Warsaw downtown would become one of the most business-orientated districts in this region. Also, it will have the nicest highrise cluster if looking from the distance! :banana:

Quicksilver

May 9th, 2010, 06:47 PM

Triceratops

May 9th, 2010, 07:29 PM

Despite all those scatteredly built commies in Kyiv, it looks really urban, dense and impressive!! :cheers:

mirza-sm

May 9th, 2010, 08:54 PM

Sarajevo :)

http://i41.tinypic.com/15yx5zb.jpg

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5641/hdrsarajevo4.jpg

SkaNdErBeG

May 9th, 2010, 09:57 PM

Prishtina

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4001/4577411477_3f501c4f0f_b.jpg

http://i835.photobucket.com/albums/zz277/Skanderbeg_2010/skyline-2.jpg?t=1273431415

MasonicStage™

May 9th, 2010, 10:11 PM

be afraid......be very afraid :shifty: :lol:

ok, let's get serious :lol:
a nice zagreb panorama, we all hope it's skyline will improve in near future.
http://i40.tinypic.com/v8imw2.jpg

btw, nice pics of Kiev and Sarajevo :okay:

mlody89

May 10th, 2010, 12:17 AM

by Fredi
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3314/4565974719_af8631f296_o.jpg
by rafael
http://pfl.neostrada.pl/w/2.jpg
by PRS28
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/8261/img1904v2.jpg

crapzoid

May 10th, 2010, 08:50 AM

Kyiv by Levshev:

http://ked-pled.livejournal.com/

http://img-kiev.fotki.yandex.ru/get/10/levshev.6a/0_462fb_2ba6090a_orig

And by tov-tob

http://tov-tob.livejournal.com/24189.html#cutid1

http://pics.livejournal.com/tov_tob/pic/002538dg

http://pics.livejournal.com/tov_tob/pic/0025wprs

You can add the 210m ZAGS Tower (which is being built nearby, I believe) to the skyline soon, too. Also adore the usual abundance of commieblocks.

Quicksilver

May 10th, 2010, 03:26 PM

One more of Kyiv by Hawk:

http://img-kiev.fotki.yandex.ru/get/4213/hawk5555.e8/0_55d44_2af65e80_XL

mirza-sm

May 10th, 2010, 03:42 PM

btw, nice pics of Kiev and Sarajevo :okay:

Tenk ju nejburing Zagreb. Lajkvajz :)

Espešli d Neboder on d Ban Jelačić skver. :)

Triceratops

May 10th, 2010, 06:27 PM

Why building something high in Zagreb?! I think this city doesn't need to have highrises, it looks just great without them - dense and terrific architecture of no more than 7-floor buildings is wonderful! MAybe only you couyld from a cluster somewhere quiet far from the city centre, only this could improve your already nice skyline!

Shep

May 10th, 2010, 06:54 PM

Warsaw
Photo stolen from RaKLeZ'es thread.
I just couldn't resist and had to add it here :)
Love this view! :cheers:

http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/4657/sky4.jpg

mirza-sm

May 10th, 2010, 07:47 PM

Warsaw kicks ass! :)

Triceratops

May 11th, 2010, 05:26 PM

^ Maybe in height of some highrises, but it definately can't boast with the amount of these highrises, whereas f.i. Kyiv at the same time can indeed! ;) Sure, Warsaw is one of the leaders due to its less spread out and rather impressive concentrated skyline!

mlody89

May 11th, 2010, 10:38 PM

WARSAW 2004 year
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-sjc1/hs595.snc3/31356_118737051491531_100000657096119_154281_2355239_n.jpg

fishfanger

May 11th, 2010, 11:51 PM

^^fake :-) position of WTT?

Darhet

May 12th, 2010, 12:25 AM

Yes it is, it is fake-

This is real:

(2010)
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9104/68891154.jpg

Triceratops

May 12th, 2010, 09:16 PM

But actually not so much changed since then, a pair of highrises just added.. Hope more would come soon!

Quicksilver

May 12th, 2010, 10:30 PM

OK, something different for Kyiv by Levshev:

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4211/levshev.6b/0_48044_904cd369_orig

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4313/levshev.6b/0_48001_8d34404a_orig

Triceratops

May 13th, 2010, 04:39 PM

Kyiv is a wonderful city! Its skyline should conquer the world with such diversity! :)

Shep

May 14th, 2010, 02:32 PM

^^
Are you kiddin' me?
Every building looks alike! YEAH PURE DIVERSITY! :bash:
http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/3379/048044904cd369orig.jpg

It actually reminds me 'brasilian highrises' which in fact, don't create the typical skyline sensu stricto. At least in my mind.. Skyline is something more than lots of the same middle-high buildings and I hate such architecture!
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6781/saopaulot.jpg

You know I've seen a lot of your statments in many various threads.
I respect you - You genuinely seem to be a friendly person but DAMN..
You're absolutely proukrainian! Of course you have such a right, but I have no slighest idea why?! I can only presume that it's cuz both Ukraine and your Latvia contained in USSR. (Why I am writing this is to encourage you to be more critical!)

Kind regards,
Shep.:)

Darhet

May 14th, 2010, 07:30 PM

But actually not so much changed since then, a pair of highrises just added.. Hope more would come soon!

not soo musch-??
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/5596/wola6a.jpg

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/4849/mirow1.jpg

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/1671/37796767.jpg

http://www.emporis.com/img/6/2007/05/536875.jpg

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/218/mur3.jpg

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2633/is30042010023.jpg

So I hope now will be more.

Triceratops

May 14th, 2010, 07:47 PM

^ Right, but if considering the angle that pics were taken from, it looked just not the way as if Warsaw had managed to change its skyline radically positevely.. Though, I of course respect the capital of Poland, as well I consider its skyline to be one of the best in Europe in terms of density, great to see all them in downtown, and sure it's unique so that it is no doubt a great competitor not only in this region, but in whole Europe!

Quicksilver

May 14th, 2010, 09:12 PM

Kyiv is a wonderful city! Its skyline should conquer the world with such diversity! :)

Thanks mate.

Iluminat

May 14th, 2010, 10:57 PM

^^
Are you kiddin' me?
Every building looks alike! YEAH PURE DIVERSITY! :bash:

Actually in Kyiv and Ukraine in general too much diversity is the biggest problem, projects are cheap but it would be ok if they just stopped at simple boxes but they have to decorate them with some cheap pseudo-historic or pseudo-futuristic stuff and result is pure chaos, more like Shenzhen than Sao Paulo.

Shep

May 15th, 2010, 12:47 AM

Well, You're probably right. :) Shanzhen also fits to this kind of architecture. Anyway I see no beauty in all those examples.
Besides, But I was talking about this particular part of skyline, which doesn't come across too diverse.

Too diverse or not really divers - All in all, It creates rather bad than good impression.

Quicksilver

May 15th, 2010, 12:48 AM

Do you call this "cheap pseudo-historic" ?

http://img-kiev.fotki.yandex.ru/get/4209/hawk5555.e6/0_55cf8_cb0aeaf_XL

http://geoid.ru/static/user/photos/thumbs5/68199.jpg

http://img-kiev.fotki.yandex.ru/get/4308/hawk5555.e6/0_55d03_675e7bc0_XL

http://img-kiev.fotki.yandex.ru/get/4210/hawk5555.e6/0_55d07_170850f4_XL

http://img-kiev.fotki.yandex.ru/get/4313/hawk5555.e7/0_55d0e_b086b344_XL

Iluminat

May 15th, 2010, 01:25 AM

Do you call this "cheap pseudo-historic" ?

Yes, that's what I'm talking about. Although high-rises are even worse.

WMS

May 15th, 2010, 01:52 AM

I agree with Iluminat. Those pix above make me puke.

Quicksilver

May 15th, 2010, 02:25 AM

Yes, that's what I'm talking about. Although high-rises are even worse.

You don't build anything with historic style in Poland? I don't belive it a minute.

Quicksilver

May 15th, 2010, 02:27 AM

I agree with Iluminat. Those pix above make me puke.

What exactly you don't like, materials used or style used?

Iluminat

May 15th, 2010, 02:58 AM

You don't build anything with historic style in Poland? I don't belive it a minute.

Well postmodernism of this kind is still present (mostly) in some smaller towns but it's not popular since the '90 and we hate it.

Darhet

May 15th, 2010, 03:47 AM

You don't build anything with historic style in Poland? I don't belive it a minute.

Reconstruction of the old building (For example, destroyed during the war)-yes, BIG YES.

Historical Reconstructions That We Love!

Royal Castle, Warsaw, Poland: 13th-19th century.

Castle in 1940:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/Burned-out_Royal_Castle_in_Warsaw_1940.jpg

Castle in 1945:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d9/The_Royal_Castle_in_Warsaw%2C_1945.jpg

Now:
http://www.virtualtripping.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/royal-castle-and-zygmunts-column.jpg

Warsaw Old Town 1945

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss355/schayer/warsaw-january-1945.jpg

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss355/schayer/2540486103_2d101ed353_b.jpg

Communists found the time to turn hundreds of nice buildings into this (on the right, one of left was restored recently):
http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/748/wwasienkiewicza.jpg

1900:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/56/Theater_Square_Warsaw.jpg/800px-Theater_Square_Warsaw.jpg

1944-destroyed 100%

2010:
rebuilt 13 years ago
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/847/71498229.jpg

Triceratops

May 15th, 2010, 10:32 AM

crapzoid

May 15th, 2010, 10:42 AM

^ But you should note the wealth of these cities and the fact that Soviets didn't want at all rebuilding what was destroyed during the war. On that places they just erected commies that was the best solution they could imagine.. :bash:

We're full of them but I still happen to like them as a part of the city, plus the lighting at night is sublime in my opinion.

But yeah they could've rebuilt some more of these pre-war buildings. :bash:

Iluminat

May 15th, 2010, 01:34 PM

This Ukrainian examples are not reconstructions though.

void0

May 16th, 2010, 11:51 AM

http://varlamov.me/img/moscitypolet/01.jpg
http://varlamov.me/img/poleti_andron_monastir/09.jpg

Triceratops

May 17th, 2010, 04:37 PM

Moscow for me looks powerfully! :cheers: But way too scattered around, I think they should try to forbid building everywhere around but to concentrate mainly on densification of such perspective city as Moscow!

crapzoid

May 18th, 2010, 10:29 AM

The main cluster (Moscow City) should be enough to satisfy everyone, I think.

Triceratops

May 18th, 2010, 02:31 PM

^ Definately, considering that it's a very dense one and the average height of it makes this cluster a leader here! But still, this can't be said about Moscow in general..

crapzoid

May 18th, 2010, 02:53 PM

Well, the city is so vast and massive, you'd need a lot of projects to cover such an area.

warden987

May 18th, 2010, 06:08 PM

You don't build anything with historic style in Poland? I don't belive it a minute.

Don't listen too seriously to Poles on this matter, those "true" architectural connoisseurs. They are of the same opinion about Russian architecture. Those modern pseudo-historical buildings you have posted might look some kitschy right now, but in 10-20 years no one will be really caring about when they were built if they are maintained properly.

Iluminat

May 18th, 2010, 08:34 PM

^^Common people already don't care because they have little idea about architecture, even if it's their own "traditional" architecture. You hear little about it at school or in the media so people are quite ignorant. All they care about is if the building is clean or not.

soren5en

May 18th, 2010, 10:28 PM

....you'll find some "traditional" architecture in Poland here..
(also...you can see how is it builds with "traditionally")
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=486679&page=13 - "Old town" in Elblag
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=509388&page=155 - some "old" buildings. Slask
http://http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=509388&page=154 - and some...in Gdansk
http://http://www.sobieski.com.pl/ - Warsaw
http://http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1002039 -
Radisson Blu Gdansk with pseudo historical "buildings" on Powroznicza street (Ropergasse)
hhhmmmm....what can i say? it all looks cheap,primitive and infantile...
enough....

Elvenking

May 19th, 2010, 01:00 AM

^^ Agreed. But these are single cases, behind our eastern border they love to build much worse monstrosities. People in Poland had their minds brainwashed for 50 years and it's obvious that we don't have (in general) German, Dutch or Scandinavian sense of estethics, but more and more projects here (in bigger cities) are of highest international level.

wasn't this thread about skylines?

Iluminat

May 19th, 2010, 06:49 PM

^^BTW notice the difference in comments/opinions between forumers from Elbląg(small city) and Gdańsk (a big city) :)

---
Warsaw
http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/2/7875/z7875392X.jpg

void0

May 20th, 2010, 12:05 AM

^^Couldn't you find better picture without toilet on foreground?

golov

May 20th, 2010, 02:32 AM

Whats wrong with portable toilets? :dunno:

What else best symbolizes the progress that mankind has made since the middle ages?

CrazySerb

May 20th, 2010, 02:59 AM

Little bit of Belgrade's "skyline" ...

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/1338/14935749.jpg (http://img37.imageshack.us/i/14935749.jpg/)

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/4196/75884873.jpg (http://img36.imageshack.us/i/75884873.jpg/)

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/3213/32827262.jpg (http://img693.imageshack.us/i/32827262.jpg/)

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/1911/34248454.jpg (http://img261.imageshack.us/i/34248454.jpg/)

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1157/77090625.jpg (http://img155.imageshack.us/i/77090625.jpg/)

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/6931/20jjjj.jpg (http://img26.imageshack.us/i/20jjjj.jpg/)

http://i48.tinypic.com/2s6oqyc.jpg

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/5295/93530797.jpg (http://img243.imageshack.us/i/93530797.jpg/)

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9416/58hh.jpg (http://img6.imageshack.us/i/58hh.jpg/)

http://i49.tinypic.com/2vvw36q.jpg

Triceratops

May 20th, 2010, 05:17 PM

Belgrade, IMO, is one of those cities in Europe, where some random highrises construction wouldn't harm even a bit as the city looks rather modern, so any midrise can only improve its vision! :cheers:

mlody89

May 20th, 2010, 11:23 PM

POZNAN (poland)
http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/9/7907/z7907459X.jpg

mlody89

May 20th, 2010, 11:24 PM

del

RaKLeZ

May 21st, 2010, 03:29 AM

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4356/noirq.jpg

mlody89

May 21st, 2010, 10:26 PM

warsaw
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/8981/img7248f.jpg

by Polex

warden987

May 22nd, 2010, 04:00 PM

I have found in wikipedia that there is a lot of construction projects with highrises under construction right now in Wroclaw. Is it true that the city's skyline is going to change drastically in the future or the crisis has stalled or slowed down those projects? Can you show me pictures of the today's Wroclaw's skyline?

Iluminat

May 22nd, 2010, 04:08 PM

^^There is no skyline in Wrocław to talk about atm, they even demolished the only "real" skyscraper they had.

mlody89

May 22nd, 2010, 08:09 PM

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5171/nadiga.jpg

Elvenking

May 23rd, 2010, 03:03 AM

^^There is no skyline in Wrocław to talk about atm, they even demolished the only "real" skyscraper they had.

I don't understand decision about demolishing Poltegor, this was quite nice building, simmilar to Warsaw's Intraco-I

http://wiezowce.waw.pl/intraco01.jpg

Just without glass cladding.
IMO u/c Sky Tower is much uglier than these classy 70s skyscrapers.

http://www.dziennik.pl/files/archive/00095/FR_SKYTOWER02_95804g.jpg

No, I don't like it. Architecture isn't remarkable, and height (207m) will dominate whole city.

Triceratops

May 23rd, 2010, 02:03 PM

This monster would be built in Wroclaw?! Such a pity, because it will simply ruin the whole skyline of such historic city! Would be awesome if this huge structure was built in Warsaw, where it would've fit completely! :ohno:

Shep

May 23rd, 2010, 05:00 PM

^^
Current state:
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8577/20100520029.th.jpg (http://img412.imageshack.us/i/20100520029.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

Quicksilver

May 23rd, 2010, 07:49 PM

Kyiv by enigmawmn:

http://www.pbase.com/enigmawmn/image/124411233/original.jpg

http://community.livejournal.com/interesniy_kiev/2787498.html#cutid1

By elektaua

http://photoe.kiev.ua/Photos/Kr_M/_MG_0120_SM.jpg

http://photoe.kiev.ua/Photos/Kr_M/_MG_0136_SM.jpg

http://photoe.kiev.ua/Photos/Kr_M/_MG_0111_SM2.jpg

http://photoe.kiev.ua/Photos/Kr_M/_MG_0110_SM2.jpg

http://photoe.kiev.ua/Photos/Kr_M/_MG_0102_SM2.jpg

http://photoe.kiev.ua/Photos/Kr_M/_MG_0101_SM2.jpg

http://photoe.kiev.ua/Photos/Kr_M/_MG_0096_SM2.jpg

Shep

May 23rd, 2010, 08:13 PM

^^
It looks like commie-paradise.

Iluminat

May 23rd, 2010, 09:28 PM

http://photoe.kiev.ua/Photos/Kr_M/_MG_0136_SM.jpg
If all new Ukrainian commies could be at least this simple...

Quicksilver

May 23rd, 2010, 09:33 PM

If all new Ukrainian commies could be at least this simple...

New one are :)

6opuC

May 23rd, 2010, 09:35 PM

I like soviet urban planning much much more than tight "modern".

Iluminat

May 23rd, 2010, 10:03 PM

I like soviet urban planning much much more than tight "modern".

Yes modernist urban planning is probably their biggest advantage, although it's still a bit too dense for my taste... perhaps it's close to the center
Anyway I have similar feelings also regarding architecture, with some paint and removal of balcony build-ups etc. they would look better than most of this new pomo-commies.

Iluminat

May 23rd, 2010, 10:16 PM

btw
http://i756.photobucket.com/albums/xx206/Iluminatl/cotamzkijowa.jpg?t=1274642089

What is that ?

wloclawianin

May 23rd, 2010, 10:40 PM

In my Warsaw leads the ranking for the best skyline of Eastern Europe.

Photo by Pstrykacz

http://czarnota.org/gallery/albums/warszawa/Panoramy/2009/2010_04_23_-_Warszawa.jpg

6opuC

May 23rd, 2010, 10:46 PM

btw
http://i756.photobucket.com/albums/xx206/Iluminatl/cotamzkijowa.jpg?t=1274642089

What is that ?

Nothing interesting.:ohno: belive me. one of the ugliest "new" highrises near centre:bash: "the cake"

6opuC

May 23rd, 2010, 10:53 PM

Yes modernist urban planning is probably their biggest advantage, although it's still a bit too dense for my taste... perhaps it's close to the center
Anyway I have similar feelings also regarding architecture, with some paint and removal of balcony build-ups etc. they would look better than most of this new pomo-commies.

agreed!

Iluminat

May 23rd, 2010, 11:25 PM

Nothing interesting.:ohno: belive me. one of the ugliest "new" highrises near centre:bash: "the cake"

From far it kinda looks like a colorful "popcorn"
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i161/Depress_Wist/49-Os-1.jpg

6opuC

May 24th, 2010, 12:55 AM

I'am afraid its much uglier, and higher minimum twice than yours "popcorn".
I think there was a very big bribe.

void0

May 24th, 2010, 11:34 AM

Moscow
http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/static.panoramio.com/photos/original/12558622.jpg
Автор onepamop.

Triceratops

May 24th, 2010, 12:29 PM

Kyiv showed how can a commie neighbourhood look terrific if it's dense enough! So, cheap architecture is not always disgusting morally!

ожежи

May 24th, 2010, 09:22 PM

Bravo to Kyiv!

CrazySerb

May 25th, 2010, 06:23 AM

Two short time-lapse videos of Belgrade's skyline:

11818031

11817897

:cheers:

Elvenking

May 25th, 2010, 05:44 PM

I'am afraid its much uglier, and higher minimum twice than yours "popcorn".
I think there was a very big bribe.

Highest popcorns are 90m high. They look quite good, they're my favourite Polish commies.

Overview and skyline of 'Millenium Estate'

http://www.ossa.org.pl/ossa07/images/silesia_lotnicze03.jpg

http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/9343/tysiacleciedts1ta9.jpg

And others from Katowice, imo 3rd Polish skyline, but city isn't too attractive no offense.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y120/olekbest/panoramakorfantego.jpg

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_heepFOdvr7A/Rq-jXMBs0OI/AAAAAAAAAoA/1LUER-lHoGU/P1020352.JPG

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3064/2618558793_9bf3e5e2e4.jpg?v=0

http://www.ossa.org.pl/ossa07/images/silesiafoto1.jpg

delfin_pl

May 26th, 2010, 09:38 PM

by Dzbyn

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/3456/narodowy100526.jpg

Elvenking

May 26th, 2010, 10:56 PM

Poznań, 2nd Polish skyline

http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/1010/dsc00791f.jpg

mirza-sm

May 28th, 2010, 03:06 AM

Sarajevo downtown skyline :drool:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3392/4641502096_643b2fdba5_b.jpg

New Sarajevo

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4041/4626656893_19b7be8c33_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4010/4626673471_fbda832ed6_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3415/4611091233_4fb08ecd95_o.jpg

Triceratops

May 28th, 2010, 02:28 PM

Amazing location of Sarajevo! In a valley surrounded by mountains, thus the highrises there fit a lot IMO! Do they plan to make a kind of cluster a bit further from downtown?

mirza-sm

May 28th, 2010, 05:42 PM

^^ Thanks! :)

Unfortunately not outside the downtown...

http://i49.tinypic.com/zugqkz.jpg

Here, I "drew" towers in the existing panoramic image (if you could call it drawing lol), the first light-blue tower to the left is the Sarajevo City Center that is under construction..

Here is the render

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/4263/dsc03710z.jpg

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/311/slika001g.jpg

and the progress so far...

http://www.sa-c.info/updateImg/sarajevo-city-center_0c0d9_DSC00092.jpg

http://www.sa-c.info/updateImg/sarajevo-city-center_11333_DSC04720.jpg

http://www.sa-c.info/updateImg/sarajevo-city-center_ef9f0_DSC04783.jpg

Here you can also see the surroundings, so a little cluster will be formed when the SCC is completed

http://www.sa-c.info/updateImg/sarajevo-city-center_065de_DSC04768.jpg

The completion date is set for March 2012.

The other tower that I drew is the Wilson Center, he is approved, but his construction did not start yet..

http://www.milieuarchitects.com/file/images/projects/sarajevo/Sarajevo_01.jpg

And the two completed towers that you see on the first picture behind the Sarajevo City Center, is the Bosmal City Center (www.bosmal.com), they are the so far only towers above 100m that are outside of the downtown. (The Twist Tower 172m is in the downtown)

http://www.sa-c.info/updateImg/bosmal_city_center_7e595415ec_DSC00695.JPG

http://www.sa-c.info/updateImg/bosmal_city_center_5b01c50f7f_DSC00370.JPG

http://www.sa-c.info/updateImg/bosmal_city_center_5b01c50f7f_DSC00380.JPG

http://www.sa-c.info/updateImg/bosmal_city_center_5b01c50f7f_DSC00371.JPG

Hope that is what youve asked for. :cheers:

warden987

May 29th, 2010, 11:54 AM

Poznań, 2nd Polish skyline

The is not much of a skyline in all Polish cities apart Warsaw.

Triceratops

May 29th, 2010, 09:00 PM

Thanks for that mirza-sm! It seems Sarajevo has great perspectives to grow in height! :) And those highrises already make a nice impression tbh!

Quicksilver

May 30th, 2010, 11:23 AM

Kyiv City center:

http://photoe.kiev.ua/Photos/Kr_Pr/_MG_0850_SM.jpg

http://photoe.kiev.ua/Photos/Kr_Pr/_MG_0660_SM.jpg

http://photoe.kiev.ua/Photos/Kr_Pr/_MG_0870_SM.jpg

http://elektraua.livejournal.com/36116.html#cutid1

Triceratops

May 30th, 2010, 04:46 PM

Kyiv is a wonderful city, amazingly dense for Eastern European scales and at the same time has a lots of highrises. All that together looks really impressive! :banana:

mirza-sm

May 31st, 2010, 07:03 PM

Thanks Triceratops!

And yeah, Kiev is massive! :cheers:

mirza-sm

June 3rd, 2010, 01:03 AM

Two more of Sarajevo! ;)

View towards the downtown! :bow:

http://i49.tinypic.com/1zdu3qv.jpg

Towards Novo Sarajevo (New Sarajevo municipality)

http://i45.tinypic.com/35b5zyb.jpg

Triceratops

June 3rd, 2010, 06:33 PM

^ Intersting perspectives. But Sarajevo doesn't look that much of a historic city, rather too many commies, but as new highrises should come, it would be indeed a very contemporary city! :cheers:

mchz

June 3rd, 2010, 10:57 PM

Lodz (Poland)
http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/4/6241/z6241224X.jpg
Fot. Tomasz Stańczak / AG
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/5491/stitched001ik2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/stitched001ik2.jpg/1/w1600.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img99/stitched001ik2.jpg/1/)
http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/7721/panoramaacopyra1.jpg
http://andrzej.az.pl/galeria/images/pelne/lod13.jpg
http://andrzej.az.pl/galeria/lodzgal.html

http://crosspointlodz.pl/viz/14.jpg
http://crosspointlodz.pl/

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2265/2159906066_44461d0a11_o.jpg
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/4133/panammmmmmm.jpg
Piotrkowska
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/7854/dsc01491x.jpg
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/8615/dsc0150.jpg
http://mommus.deviantart.com/
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6752/typ30401.jpg
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/153/typ30331.jpg
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/355/eska022vl3.jpg

mirza-sm

June 3rd, 2010, 10:59 PM

^^ Thanks. ;)

Oh it is a historic city, its just that those highrises and towers are located in Novo Sarajevo, which is a city municipality with highrises and new-ish buildings. It's a Yugoslav thingy, all capital cities here have those municipalities: Novo Sarajevo, Novi Zagreb, Novi Beograd etc.. ;)

The historic part is in the Old Town municipality. :okay:

Triceratops

June 4th, 2010, 05:02 PM

^ Maube you could provide some historic skyine shots of Sarajevo because haven't seen that before? :)

Kulla

June 4th, 2010, 09:46 PM

^ Maube you could provide some historic skyine shots of Sarajevo because haven't seen that before? :)

lol look a bit up he posted some on this page :lol:

Amrafel

June 4th, 2010, 11:51 PM

Well, current skyline is nothing special - there are few highrises built in different parts of city

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/9343/bratislavaskylinefh1.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3136/2955700474_7763a498fe.jpg

but there is planned general revitalization of brownfields near the medieval centre and building the new city center

It is this place:

http://imhd.zoznam.sk/ba/index.php?img=37595&typ=gm

As you can see, there are already some new developments

The future look:
http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/979/twincityvq3.png
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/9210/tc2nb4.png
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/3415/tc1kb7.png

Triceratops

June 5th, 2010, 02:21 PM

lol look a bit up he posted some on this page :lol:

Oh, right.. :lol: I just dunno how but didn't spot those spires as I was enoying the background highrises on that above pic. Well, looks really intersting with such a mix of church and minaret spires!

mirza-sm

June 6th, 2010, 08:38 PM

^^ Yeah, there you have in the previous pics the historic skyline. :okay:

Yeah, those churches and mosques and a synagogue are in the radius of 100-200m ;)

rover_777

June 8th, 2010, 04:50 AM

Don't forget...

Tiraspol
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/9263/1500pxchicagoskylinehirma7.jpg

Bălţi
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/5226/800pxlosangeles05fz0.jpg

Tighina
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/4016/800pxphiladelphiaskylinbz6.jpg

Rîbniţa
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/1392/800pxdallastexasskylinepe2.jpg

...and Dubăsari-Criuleni metropolitan area in Transdnistria.
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/2926/sfpano03172006pi7.jpg

heh :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: foarte dragut :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Triceratops

June 8th, 2010, 01:10 PM

Hey, if we've recalled Romania here, how does Bucharest look like?

6opuC

June 9th, 2010, 09:18 PM

Tric. rover 777 is from Moldova

Iluminat

June 9th, 2010, 09:32 PM

Tiraspol reminds me of Chicago. Good job Moldova!

Triceratops

June 10th, 2010, 03:12 PM

Tric. rover 777 is from Moldova

Ah, ok, but you know, these two countries once were united, so still all that is like a one and the same nation, thus quite same for me, and that's why it would be great if someone could share anything from Romanian-speaking country! ;)

6opuC

June 10th, 2010, 09:32 PM

You know. Ukrainie also was part of Russia & Soviet Union once. and is speaking in minimum 50% Russian.
... but its a seperate nation.

We have to ask rover 777 how does it look like in Moldova.

warden987

June 12th, 2010, 09:36 PM

Now as the topic has gone a bit offtop with some imaginary skylines from Romania and semi-skylines from Polish cities, I shall add my bit to it.
Some European Russia's skylines not from Moscow

Perm
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4207/pethead2007.42/0_3f290_3b95a0ef_XL.jpg
http://s58.radikal.ru/i159/1004/84/d6a1b36e57b1.jpg
http://s19.radikal.ru/i192/1004/58/a55a34d4d7b1.jpg
http://oldperm.clan.su/_ph/33/97271077.jpg
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3711/yiffy.0/0_145cf_11d03479_XL

Rostov-on-Don
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/54/linertour.1/0_2e770_cdba5f4e_-1-XL.jpg
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4202/linertour.0/0_2e76e_a2c3b886_-1-XL.jpg
http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab94/slippyhollow/SDC12135800x600.jpg

Fotos from Russian forum

AR.BN

June 13th, 2010, 02:36 AM

Perm is a commie blocks heaven. Good job. Rostov is not too far behind also. But it still needs some taller commie blocks.

Triceratops

June 13th, 2010, 05:18 PM

^ Emm, that's how absolutely any other Russian city and town (except for St-Petersburg) look like! ;)

Darhet

June 13th, 2010, 05:53 PM

Katowice

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/6884/kcenoc1.jpg

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/5598/pict8092.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j163/prosimpozor/katoinaczej/SK4724blur-1.jpg

AlekseyVT

June 13th, 2010, 11:55 PM

^ Emm, that's how absolutely any other Russian city and town (except for St-Petersburg) look like! ;)

Do you want to say, that all Latvian towns look like Riga? :lol:

AlekseyVT

June 14th, 2010, 12:00 AM

Or, may be, Lodz or Szettin look like Warsaw? :) :) :)

(L)egionista

June 14th, 2010, 03:12 AM

WARSAW

http://bloguspospolitus.blox.pl/resource/warszawa1.jpg

http://quiston.tpsa.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/697523.jpg

http://plfoto.com/zdjecia_new/1229768.jpg

Darhet

June 14th, 2010, 03:55 AM

http://bloguspospolitus.blox.pl/resource/warszawa1.jpg
^^This is from 2001:lol:
there is not f.ex..:Rondo1,IC etc...

Triceratops

June 14th, 2010, 12:22 PM

Do you want to say, that all Latvian towns look like Riga? :lol:

What I wanted to pay attention is the fact that hardly would you find a city and town in Russia which wouldn't be built up with commies. You should notice that almost every urban area in Russia is made of commieblock structures. Sure, there's nothing wrong with that, it is clear that the previous era had absolute influence on all sorts of constructions, they wanted to make the cities and towns look contemporary, but nothing is eternal, what was once trendy now is graceless, so no worries with that, it's a fact, but Russia still looks quite nice with these structures, it's definitely better than the wooden shacks that formed your densely lived up areas century ago!

WMS

June 15th, 2010, 01:21 AM

WARSAW

http://bloguspospolitus.blox.pl/resource/warszawa1.jpg

http://quiston.tpsa.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/697523.jpg

http://plfoto.com/zdjecia_new/1229768.jpg

C'mon, very old, been there. First of all, view whole thread and then post some pix.

peterthegreat

July 1st, 2010, 04:01 PM

http://miliarda.com/marish/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/IMG_3363-Edit.jpg

peterthegreat

July 1st, 2010, 04:07 PM

more :-)

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9681/ba1ww4.jpg

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/7621/baux8.jpg

peterthegreat

July 1st, 2010, 04:16 PM

and i like these two :-)

http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/9416/baner1gr7cm1.jpg

http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/3652/baner2ab9qu3.jpg

mirza-sm

July 2nd, 2010, 06:18 PM

Sarajevo skyline, and the Marijin Dvor district by Sarajevo-City :cheers:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4099/4755126660_04923f2f49_b.jpg

Triceratops

July 3rd, 2010, 04:26 PM

Wow, Sarajevo is getting more and more attention, I see! Perspective city, I guess!

Quicksilver

July 13th, 2010, 09:27 PM

Dnipropetrovsk by Deniska:

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/7531/8a0966c5d5e51.jpg

Triceratops

July 13th, 2010, 11:55 PM

^^ Nice, something completely new in Dnipropetrovsk! What height would that reach?

Quicksilver

July 16th, 2010, 12:49 AM

^^ Nice, something completely new in Dnipropetrovsk! What height would that reach?

20 storeys, I am not sure may be 75 meters.

Shep

July 16th, 2010, 08:53 AM

Dnipropetrovsk by Deniska:

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/7531/8a0966c5d5e51.jpg

I am going to comment it with words of Triceratops, which fit here perfectly. ;)

^ Emm, that's how absolutely any other Russian city and town (except for St-Petersburg) look like! ;)

void0

July 16th, 2010, 11:51 AM

Moscow has a unique look and doesn't look like other cities.
http://cache.photosight.ru/img/7/c45/3824793_large.jpg

IlyaM (http://www.photosight.ru/users/192440/)

Triceratops

July 16th, 2010, 02:55 PM

What one can find that much of a Russian-style urban development in Dnipropetrovsk? Maybe some commies, factories on the far background - but that's a common situation all over the world, don't you find? As for the identity of Dnipropetrovsk, now one can see how unique it is - located on hills, along the river, quite a lot of contemporary architecture highrises that fit the environment just great, potential for more! ;)

Shep

July 16th, 2010, 05:51 PM

^^
Sorry but you are a hipocrite.
EOT

peterthegreat

July 16th, 2010, 10:44 PM

, now one can see how unique it is - located on hills, along the river, quite a lot of contemporary architecture highrises that fit the environment just great, potential for more! ;)

well... dont want to be mean... but i would say, that this fit for majority of world cities :-) river, hills... river was crutial for development of cities... dont u think so?

Triceratops

July 17th, 2010, 01:29 PM

well... dont want to be mean... but i would say, that this fit for majority of world cities :-) river, hills... river was crutial for development of cities... dont u think so?

Of course, but what I wanted to point out is the feeling of a well-planned and kept in right urbanisation traditions' order city on the banks of Dniepr. The fact is that it is one of the nicest cities in Ukraine and that it is counted to be the most comofrtable for living place there. So, the past era of commies is no more dominating the image of Dnipropetrovsk, unlike it does in many cities and towns as around Ukraine, as well as around Russia..