Kyiv, Ukraine



http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4612/35621073.206/0_8b760_1784afd6_XXXL
http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/hawk5555/view/571232/



http://i.photographers.com.ua/images/pictures/1107/img_0762_3_4enhancer-1200.jpg
http://photographers.com.ua/pictures/user/1107/

Darnytskyi District, Kyiv
http://www.zharii.kiev.ua/data/media/24/Kyiv_Landsape_12.jpg
http://www.zharii.kiev.ua/?l=en.

It's not skyline! It's wall of commieblocks or other blocks...whatever.

^^ I advise you to read the whole debate. This photo has been added as an example.

^^ Yes, but first you add pictures of this didtrict as skyline.

^^ Yes, but first you add pictures of this didtrict as skyline.

You consider skyline only a few single towers? Kiev has very good and massive skyline. I like it
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Moscow
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4612/97766603.2c/0_892e1_edccf78_XXL
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4701/97766603.35/0_90a39_1e64fe53_XXL
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4416/97766603.2c/0_892e2_3b267834_XXL
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4416/97766603.2c/0_889e8_8d20cd01_XXL
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4402/97766603.34/0_9043f_84d5fbea_XXL
http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/cat-morphine/

You consider skyline only a few single towers? Kiev has very good and massive skyline. I like it


No, I consider skyline as Towers, no wall consisting of a cabinets:bash:
Besides, most of them is commieblocks

Dnipropetrovsk, Ukraine

http://s003.radikal.ru/i204/1201/9b/a4a5b6ded064.jpg
by berezhnoi (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/member.php?u=860960)

2_mrcndrg

Our debate are a waste of time but I will write a response...
Again:


This is Darnytskyi District - the most high-rise residential area in Europe (over one hundred buildings of 20 to 38 floors). There's a lot of fairly good economy class apartments.


A few of my photos:

Darnytskyi District, Kyiv
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/24683_105677556137104_100000845799428_55344_2178815_n.jpg

Dubai Marina
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/26384_108334862538040_100000845799428_64851_1268277_n.jpg
^^This is elite real estate. :lol:

The same pattern in many cities around the world.;)

By kafarek

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/7068/33058332q.jpg

Dnipropetrovsk, Ukraine



http://cs11063.vk.com/u29077616/144372771/z_a90962b6.jpg
http://vk.com/album-23282997_144372771

Moscow, winter
http://www.vs-arts.ru/lj/photos/008_federation/01.jpg

Moscow

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/27/104587032.2/0_82ef1_6f2ff07b_orig
http://artem-lahtionov.livejournal.com/

Guys, stop posting commies here, there is a section for that.I think the absolute skyline in East Europe is Moscow, closely followed by Warsaw.The rest are just atemps.

I like that digital clock on the building! How is that digital display operated - LCD, projection or by another means :dunno:

Warszawa by cyrkiel
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http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/579/pdscf1764resize.jpg


an the other http://to022.fotolog.pl/

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/328/zoomie.jpg

http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/8990/13960737.jpg

Warsaw

http://i43.tinypic.com/olefm.jpg

Warsaw has some big projects on the go, not to the scale of Moscow but they are quality projects none the less that will contribute some height and density to the core.

- Zlota
- Twarda
- Spire
-....the building that will replace Imlet
to name a few big ones.

The reason why Moscow and Warsaw have such a big boom in skyscraper development is b/c the two cities are financial hubs in the region, and in Warsaw well...it's not Prague or Krakow with preserved architecture.

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/3126/dsc02486001.jpg

Bratislava north-east side - click to enlarge it

http://fotky.sme.sk/foto/261438/panorama-z-bratislavskeho-hradu?type=v&x=650&y=117 (http://fotky.sme.sk/fotografia/261438/panorama-z-bratislavskeho-hradu)

http://fotky.sme.sk/foto/261443/panorama-z-bratislavskeho-hradu-2?type=v&x=650&y=55 (http://fotky.sme.sk/fotografia/261443/panorama-z-bratislavskeho-hradu-2)

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/9062/citypanorama.jpg

Yekaterinburg, Russia. Slightly hazy views. Pictures by Umformer

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5608/31421102.47/0_72cb4_da7b10c7_XXXL.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6201/31421102.47/0_72cb2_3fb931fb_XXXL.jpg

Latest Moscow pics from Russian forum
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5608/132736546.4/0_ddf61_31b1f383_orig
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5608/132736546.4/0_ddf60_f1b03ed0_orig
http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/vanh1to92/view/909152?page=0

warsaw
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Evolution tower
New renderings

http://i.imgur.com/4pgIg.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/vbE5D.gif

http://i.imgur.com/vsHaX.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/tR6Eu.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/3aK57.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/4i4Su.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Hi6tb.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/7NLTh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/k83Mk.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Gtdus.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/f3tQA.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Swl6h.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/z7Big.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/OaBZ7.jpg

Источник: http://snegiri.com/portfolio/

For example:

http://i.imgur.com/hwpTJ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/cJZVw.jpg

^^Looks like another TT copy, wrong thread btw

^^Looks like another TT copy, wrong thread btw
Now why would this be the wrong thread? :dunno:

^^ its about existing skylines

all that stepsin the renders remind me of the scene from "the battleship potemkin" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48F_Bk2Oees&feature=related)

:master::master::master: Evolution tower

Moscow is the undisputed heavy weight champ of EE by a fair margin.

wrong thread btw
You can find plenty of renders in this thread without trying hard :)

:master::master::master: Evolution tower

Moscow is the undisputed heavy weight champ of EE by a fair margin.

I am sure in 10 years it will be the best in Europe. There are few towers u/c now, maybe something else will pop up.

:master::master::master: Evolution tower

Moscow is the undisputed heavy weight champ of EE by a fair margin.

Yeah, forget EE, Moscow will blow all of Europe out of the water in a few years. Not that Europe is known for impressive modern skylines...

Let's not forget EE but I think it will be impossible to have a city
that looks better than Moscow. It just can't keep up with it.

Dnipropetrovsk,Ukraine

2012

http://cs303806.userapi.com/u85661939/122023545/y_57d3b7b8.jpg

http://cs11249.userapi.com/u85661939/122023545/z_ff531d0e.jpg

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http://cs301401.userapi.com/u85661939/122023545/y_59ba846e.jpg

http://cs10168.userapi.com/u85661939/122023545/z_78391083.jpg

http://cs303107.userapi.com/u85661939/122023545/z_20d52525.jpg

http://cs9847.userapi.com/u85661939/122023545/y_38fa329a.jpg

http://cs303806.userapi.com/u85661939/122023545/y_b80cfbfd.jpg

http://cs11381.userapi.com/u85661939/122023545/z_6c84b4dc.jpg

http://cs9924.userapi.com/u85661939/122023545/z_1a6da5c6.jpg

2009

http://cs10907.userapi.com/u85661939/122023545/y_7fafced3.jpg

http://cs11249.userapi.com/u85661939/122023545/z_47136800.jpg

Moscow's one is impressive, i also find vilnius very nice...nothing impressive in warsaw..

nothing impressive in warsaw..

^^
http://www.cosmopolitan.waw.pl/media/img/panorama-day.jpg

http://www.cosmopolitan.waw.pl/media/img/panorama-night.jpg

Don't try to prove unprovable, blasll is unimpressed, let him be.

My favorite picture, and the best skyline by far:

http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/5849/11008f.jpg


:cheers:

and my favourite (warsaw)
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1537/61308279421ff850a59bb.jpg
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/4026/dsc01552qw.jpg
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/9632/29625110150288380847093.jpg

the real skyline holywar in Europe should be not Warsaw vs Moscow (that's an easy one), but Moscow vs London.

That's more tricky.

the real skyline holywar in Europe should be not Warsaw vs Moscow (that's an easy one), but Moscow vs London.

That's more tricky.

Best Skylines in Eastern Europe

best skyline of Eastern Europe in Warsaw

best skyline of Eastern Europe in Warsaw


Moskva :guns1:

^^ At the end of the day, Warsaw has a very good skyline for Europe, the reason Moscow is going ahead is because the city and the country of which it is the capital are much larger, and are growing at a very rapid pace... I have little doubt Moscow will have the best one in Europe, not only EE, in a few years time.

^^"Best" is very subjective but it might be the biggest

Bucharest aerial ...
http://i.imgur.com/z2E2l.jpg (http://imgur.com/z2E2l)

Details ^^^^
http://i.imgur.com/ZMxZC.jpg

The cities with no real skyline are allowed to post ... aerials :) :lol: :jk:

http://grafiko.ro/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Bucuresti-inter.jpg

nice photos from bucharest

Warsaw has some big projects on the go, not to the scale of Moscow but they are quality projects none the less that will contribute some height and density to the core.

- Zlota
- Twarda
- Spire
-....the building that will replace Imlet
to name a few big ones.

The reason why Moscow and Warsaw have such a big boom in skyscraper development is b/c the two cities are financial hubs in the region, and in Warsaw well...it's not Prague or Krakow with preserved architecture.
I am sorry but you have a wrong idea about Warsaw.
Yes it is a financial hub BUT only for Poland!
The regional financial hub is Vienna in the Central and Eastern Europe.:bash:

I am sorry but you have a wrong idea about Warsaw.
Yes it is a financial hub BUT only for Poland!
The regional financial hub is Vienna in the Central and Eastern Europe.:bash:

:bash: Some proof? For example Warsaw Stock Exchange is bigger in every way than Vienna.

The regional financial hub is Vienna in the Central and Eastern Europe.:bash: Time to refresh your knowledge...

Warsaw as the financial hub of the Central and Eastern Europe region – the WSE against the backdrop of other European bourses

WSE – the largest stock market in the Central and Eastern Europe

The Warsaw Stock Exchange (WSE) is starting the year 2012 as the largest financial hub of the Central and Eastern Europe (CEE) region – the newest data from the Federation of European Stock Exchanges (FESE) indicate that the market capitalization of the WSE amounted to EUR 108.6 bln at the end of November and thus was considerably higher than the capitalization of the stock exchanges in Vienna (EUR 64.3 bln), Prague (EUR 29.4 bln) and Athens (EUR 26.0 bln).

Market capitalization of the WSE and other Central European stock exchanges
http://msp.gov.pl/dokumenty/zalaczniki/3/3-1759_g.jpg
Source: FESE Statistic

Value of session equity trading on the WSE and other Central European stock exchanges
http://msp.gov.pl/dokumenty/zalaczniki/3/3-1760_g.jpg
Source: FESE Statistic
moar http://msp.gov.pl/portal/en/88/2972/Warsaw_as_the_financial_hub_of_the_Central_and_Eastern_Europe_region__the_WSE_ag.html

I am sorry but you have a wrong idea about Warsaw.
Yes it is a financial hub BUT only for Poland!
The regional financial hub is Vienna in the Central and Eastern Europe.:bash:

Vienna is losing it clout, quickly. Vienna is still living off old 20th century gains. Biggest bourse in Central Europe is not Vienna, but Warsaw. The WSE has more capitalization, and IPOs than Vienna. In terms of IPOs Warsaw is second to London. Vienna is resting on its lorals but its outpaced by Warsaw. We will see what will happen when the WSE is privatized and partners up with NYSE, LSE or the Deutsche Bourse.

Vienna is losing it clout, quickly. Vienna is still living off old 20th century gains. Biggest bourse in Central Europe is not Vienna, but Warsaw. The WSE has more capitalization, and IPOs than Vienna. In terms of IPOs Warsaw is second to London. Vienna is resting on its lorals but its outpaced by Warsaw. We will see what will happen when the WSE is privatized and partners up with NYSE, LSE or the Deutsche Bourse.
According to wikipedia , in 2011, at a pop. of 8,000,000, Austria had a GDP of about $351 billion, while Poland with 38,000,000 had a GDP of $766 billion, so lets stay cool and relax.

all that stepsin the renders remind me of the scene from "the battleship potemkin" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48F_Bk2Oees&feature=related)

I had exactly the same association :lol:
Great minds think alike ;) or it is just Deja vu travesty of that scene was so memorable :cheers:

According to wikipedia , in 2011, at a pop. of 8,000,000, Austria had a GDP of about $351 billion, while Poland with 38,000,000 had a GDP of $766 billion, so lets stay cool and relax.

It doesnt change the fact that Warsaw is financial center in this part of Europe with pretty much larger stock market than Vienna.

According to wikipedia , in 2011, at a pop. of 8,000,000, Austria had a GDP of about $351 billion, while Poland with 38,000,000 had a GDP of $766 billion, so lets stay cool and relax.

what does GDP have to do with financial hub? Why did we go from comparing Vienna and Warsaw to comparing countries populations vs GDP ratio?

It doesnt change the fact that Warsaw is financial center in this part of Europe with pretty much larger stock market than Vienna.

it could be by the very fact of Poland being easily the largest country in Central Europe, but it doesn't necessarily contradict the fact that Vienna is more important for Czech Republic, Hungary or Slovenia. especially given that their stock exchanges are federalised...

The CEE Stock Exchange Group (CEESEG) had a busy and successful year 2010. In January 2010, the four stock exchanges of Vienna, Budapest, Ljubljana and Prague were integrated as subsidiaries into the holding company, CEESEG AG
http://en.wienerborse.at/about/press/pressrelease/ceeseg-looks-back-at-successful-year-2010.html

it could be by the very fact of Poland being easily the largest country in Central Europe, but it doesn't necessarily contradict the fact that Vienna is more important for Czech Republic, Hungary or Slovenia. especially given that their stock exchanges are federalised...


http://en.wienerborse.at/about/press/pressrelease/ceeseg-looks-back-at-successful-year-2010.html
To make things clearer, I will give you an example: here, in Romania, many austrian companies bought large romanian companies ( Raiffeisen, Volksbank, Strabag, OMV and others) while polish companies have a very poor position in our market, the same is for Czechs, Slovakia, Hungary and other countries from the Balkans.

First you guys need to pinpoint what the conversation is about:

Definition of 'Financial Hub'
A city or region that is considered to be a focal point for the financial services industry. Financial hubs are home to major banks and/or stock exchanges as well as other financial services. They often develop in areas due to externalities, as well as supportive government regulation.

Investopedia explains 'Financial Hub'
New York's Wall Street is a highly recognizable international financial hub, as it is the location of the New York Stock Exchange and has long been established as a leader in the financial industry. Other cities, such as London and Hong Kong, are also huge financial hubs. A financial hub can improve a company's economy by drawing in more financial transactions and more business.

source (http://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/financial-hub.asp#axzz1rlJ7qUzW)

..and then find a proper thread for that :okay:

OK, at the peril of being called a traitor;), does Warsaw have any major bank headquarters; or rather mostly subsidiaries of banks based elsewhere? do they provide any services Czechs or Hungarians would find unavailable in Vienna? I don't think so.

I think Mannesmann is right, for Warsaw to be Central European main financial hub, either major banks would need to be based there or big Polish companies would need to be significantly more involved in other CE economies. as of now neither is the case. not to mention the fact Venna is simply better positioned geographically....

There's just no main financial hub for Central Europe, it's so simple. While Austria has significant influence in some of countries of the region it's marginal in Poland for example. You can't be a dominant financial hub when you don't matter in the biggest country of your region (BTW is Vienna really Central European in economical therms?). Anyway Vienna may be the biggest hub while Warsaw is aspiring, neither of them is dominant.

Economical activity in Central Europe:
http://www.voxeu.org/sites/default/files/image/FromAug2010/Gill1.jpg

^^"Best" is very subjective but it might be the biggest

It is subjective

Bucharest new Floreasca Area:

http://i1057.photobucket.com/albums/t395/Teracota/DSCN0118.jpg
http://s15.postimage.org/ehl5x8z7f/2012_04_08_16_18_32.jpg
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/7285/dscn0264skytower2.jpghttp://img442.imageshack.us/img442/2592/img1248skytower2.jpg
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk245/Somebody902/DSCF6711.jpg
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/7140/90086005.jpg
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/4972/autostradasuspendatauit.jpg

There's just no main financial hub for Central Europe, it's so simple. While Austria has significant influence in some of countries of the region it's marginal in Poland for example. You can't be a dominant financial hub when you don't matter in the biggest country of your region (BTW is Vienna really Central European in economical therms?). Anyway Vienna may be the biggest hub while Warsaw is aspiring, neither of them is dominant.

Economical activity in Central Europe:
http://www.voxeu.org/sites/default/files/image/FromAug2010/Gill1.jpg
Come on people, Germany has more influence in Poland, that's why Austria has a lesser one.
Warsaw is still dreaming to become the queen on the region (in terms of businesses) but I think Moscow will get more influence even in the former countries of the Soviet Union who now are in the EU.

First you guys need to pinpoint what the conversation is about:

Definition of 'Financial Hub'
A city or region that is considered to be a focal point for the financial services industry. Financial hubs are home to major banks and/or stock exchanges as well as other financial services. They often develop in areas due to externalities, as well as supportive government regulation.

Investopedia explains 'Financial Hub'
New York's Wall Street is a highly recognizable international financial hub, as it is the location of the New York Stock Exchange and has long been established as a leader in the financial industry. Other cities, such as London and Hong Kong, are also huge financial hubs. A financial hub can improve a company's economy by drawing in more financial transactions and more business.

source (http://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/financial-hub.asp#axzz1rlJ7qUzW)

..and then find a proper thread for that :okay:

This is an opinion forum, just look in the region, you can see countries like Germany that will dominate the European financial affairs in the next 1000 years, so it can be Warsaw regional financial capital, at most, it can be local (In Poland).

^^ Agree more-less but what is your point exactly? What Germany has to do with Vienna-Warsaw competition in becoming bigger financial hub (which Warsaw imho already is)?

Your posts are too chaotic and posted in wrong place as internet forums has this structure of threads to avoid discussion about for ex. food of Europe in thread about Austrian sawing off his foot.

warsaw
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^^ Agree more-less but what is your point exactly? What Germany has to do with Vienna-Warsaw competition in becoming bigger financial hub (which Warsaw imho already is)?

Your posts are too chaotic and posted in wrong place as internet forums has this structure of threads to avoid discussion about for ex. food of Europe in thread about Austrian sawing off his foot.
I like things to be said correctly: someone here said that Warsaw is a regional financial hub.
This seemed a big lie if we take a look to the neighborhoods of Poland ( financial hub for Belarus, Ukraine, Latvia, come on). All Polish should recognize the supremacy of Moscow, stop dreaming, period.

^^maybe Moscow's supremacy in Belarus, not Poland. practise what you preach and be accurate. if anything, we are integrated with EU/German economy.

Come on people, Germany has more influence in Poland, that's why Austria has a lesser one.
Warsaw is still dreaming to become the queen on the region (in terms of businesses) but I think Moscow will get more influence even in the former countries of the Soviet Union who now are in the EU.

Sure Germany is biggest trade partner of Poland, it's not a secret, but we've discussed supposed supremacy of Vienna over Warsaw. A little curiosity at this point - Warsaw has bigger GDP per capita than Berlin.
Moscow is and will be a big financial hub - of CIS countries but not of Central Europe, these are very different spheres, too many political and economical barriers. Moscow is not a competition for Warsaw and vice versa.

Is Germany, Switzerland also in central Europe?

Come on people, Germany has more influence in Poland, that's why Austria has a lesser one.
Warsaw is still dreaming to become the queen on the region (in terms of businesses) but I think Moscow will get more influence even in the former countries of the Soviet Union who now are in the EU.
I think so too, for example Russia's largest bank has recently purchased a major part of Volksbank which you mentioned earlier

How about some awesome skyline pics which take us back to the real topic of this thread ;)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6105/86126036.30/0_788fc_fbcd40fd_-2-XXL

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5508/86126036.30/0_78904_e6006b5d_XXL
Автор: YURII KOVALEV. (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/kovalev-yrii/)

http://www.barklivh.com/images/gallery/e04a40e260bee7203cda161db9da1614.jpg
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http://www.barklivh.com/images/gallery/c323c06311bcee8cb0c0e25e3c07bbea.jpg
http://www.barklivh.com/images/gallery/1561a7a3b492c2484c211995d7c4b1bc.jpg

http://www.barklivh.com/panoramic_views_eng

I think so too, for example Russia's largest bank has recently purchased a major part of Volksbank which you mentioned earlier

Sorry but I can't imagine how Moscow will gain influence over former Soviet states that are now EU members. It's just imposible. Modcow can dominate Belarus, Ukraine and all this -stan countries.

For example, Russia is biggest trade partner of Lithuania or Finland. Latvia seems to be moving towards Russia politically.

Russia oil and gas, nothing more. I've never seen a single russian product at Polish stores. Maybe it has some influence in ex - Soviet states but certainly not in countries like Poland. Czech Republic, Slovakia or Hungary.

Russia oil and gas, nothing more. I've never seen a single russian product at Polish stores.

Where I can buy any product "made in Poland" at Moscow stores? ;) At least, we have two important products.

Russia oil and gas, nothing more. I've never seen a single russian product at Polish stores. Maybe it has some influence in ex - Soviet states but certainly not in countries like Poland. Czech Republic, Slovakia or Hungary.

oil and gas make less than 50 % of the Russian economy. To me it is ridiculous, when you try to prove that Warsaw more influential developed and rich city than Moscow. In Russia there are at least 2 cities richer than Warsaw;)

but overall its poorer

but overall its poorer

Yes, you right. In 1.06 times :D
50. Poland 13.967
51. Russia 13.236

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita

^^^ mind Human Development Index and wealth distribution which is much more equal in Poland, you wont see such contrasts in Poland between poor and rich as its in Russia.

HDI:
Rank,

39. Poland
66. Russia

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/2011_UN_Human_Development_Report_Quartiles.svg/800px-2011_UN_Human_Development_Report_Quartiles.svg.png

^^^ mind Human Development Index and wealth distribution which is much more equal in Poland, you wont see such contrasts in Poland between poor and rich as its in Russia.

HDI:
Rank,

39. Poland
66. Russia

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/2011_UN_Human_Development_Report_Quartiles.svg/800px-2011_UN_Human_Development_Report_Quartiles.svg.png

in Poland isn't present so many millionaires and billionaires as in Russia, Poland very small, silly to speak about contrast between rich and poor in comparison with Russia. you have no such cold and remote lands

Yes, you right. In 1.06 times :D
50. Poland 13.967
51. Russia 13.236

For some reason you've decided to show us nominal amount instead of Puchasing Power Parity:
45. Poland 20.136
52. Russia 16.687

in Poland isn't present so many millionaires and billionaires as in Russia, Poland very small, silly to speak about contrast between rich and poor in comparison with Russia. you have no such cold and remote lands

You don't have to go to Siberia to see large contrasts. Actually simple presence of millionaires and billionaires makes poor people poorer because they cause prices to raise, especially when they have flamboyant life style. Russia is an expensive country which makes life of common people harder.

So why do you guys discuss GDP in a skyline thread... again?

Belarus, Minsk:

фота by dima67574.livejournal.com (http://dima67574.livejournal.com/8130.html#cutid1)

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So why do you guys discuss GDP in a skyline thread... again?

+1

because dick measuring is Zeriouz BiznezZ...

Tallinn a few years back.

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^^ cool, best skyline in Baltics :cheers:

Minsk looks really good

warsaw
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Tallinn a few years back.

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Wow, awesome!!!

Groznyj
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Dnipropetrovsk, Ukraine



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Warsaw
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Maciej Margas

Vilnius

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(c) Lettered www.miestai.net/forumas

Warsaw

by Sławek

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Cool!

Warsaw looks really good:cheers:

There were many planned towers cancelled in warsaw because of recession

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Warsaw 2012

WARSAW!!!

some shots of bratislava after a while :)

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There were many planned towers cancelled in warsaw because of recession
Like that didn't happen in Moscow

Groznyj
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Fuck...
How does it correspond with the spirit of Groznyj? And Caucasus? It looks like somebody wanted to show his dominance and completely reshaped the city :(

All Polish should recognize the supremacy of Moscow, stop dreaming, period.

What a poor bastard :) Is it really your problem that somebody dreams? It is allowed to dream...

Like that didn't happen in Moscow
Maybe not ;) but we are going to start build another 3 or 4 new towers in Warsaw later this year or in the beginning of new year . As u see from the pic of Warsaw 2012 i attatched here Warsaw already looks impressive maybe not like an asian skylines but as completely damaged city during the 2 world war it is amazing how Warsaw looks today !

I like things to be said correctly: someone here said that Warsaw is a regional financial hub.
This seemed a big lie if we take a look to the neighborhoods of Poland ( financial hub for Belarus, Ukraine, Latvia, come on). All Polish should recognize the supremacy of Moscow, stop dreaming, period. buhahahaha u r funny man ;) polish people dont even look at eastern countries like russia for what? because u r bigger military power by which russian citizens are poor? or because u just build few towers in Moscow ? BUHAHAHAHA but yes financially Russia stay much better than Poland and there is no comment about that , u should be happy that u have gas business with european countries

Maybe not ;) but we are going to start build another 3 or 4 new towers in Warsaw later this year or in the beginning new year . As u see from the pic of Warsaw 2012 i attatched here Warsaw already looks impressive maybe not like asian skylines but as completely damaged city during the 2 world war it is amazing how Warsaw looks today !

I like Warsaw but with present rates Warsaw can't have the best skyline even in Eastern Europe.in this year to Moscow we will see from the earth of 16 IBC (336 and 213 meters), a tower evolution (250 m) and probably transport terminal (167 m) and will be ready frameworks of a federation tower, Eurasia and mercury towers . also there are many buildings of inhabited towers on suburbs of Moscow
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nice stuff ;) are they starting with constructions now ?

VitMos - I'm not agree with you I understand that there are few projects under construction now in Moscow but in Warsaw as well and we are planning to build soon some higher towers too . And currently Warsaw skyline looks best in my opinion in eastern Europe . Don't get me wrong Moscow,s new skyline looks very impressive but there are only few towers build at the moment and i believe that in next 5 years it will be amazing skyline

Moscow can be compared with London or Paris in Europe. Moscow is altogether different league for Warsaw

its like comparing Bratislava and Warsaw and thinks they are in the same league ...

I mean you can compare them why not just as can compare Dnipropetrovsk with Prague for instance

^^guys, can you learn to edit your posts? thanks in advance.

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I would not boast about these being built in my city if i were you. Just saying... :|

And imho, Moscow CBD, IBC, or whatever it's name is, is far better looking than the skyline of Warsaw. Not that it's an example of some divine architecture, it's just well planned and not disfiguratively scattered like the towers of Warsaw.

I would not boast about these being built in my city if i were you. Just saying... :|

And imho, Moscow CBD, IBC, or whatever it's name is, is far better looking than the skyline of Warsaw. Not that it's an example of some divine architecture, it's just well planned and not disfiguratively scattered like the towers of Warsaw.

Ah yes, and we are all too familiar with how good Russians can be with their "planned cities" ;)

Do you mean this city?
http://img-8.photosight.ru/a96/3415941_large.jpg

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March 18, 2012

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Darnytskyi District

Pozniaky-Osokorky, Darnytskyi District - the most high-rise residential area in Europe (over one hundred buildings of 20 to 38 floors).

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I like Warsaw but with present rates Warsaw can't have the best skyline even in Eastern Europe.in this year to Moscow we will see from the earth of 16 IBC (336 and 213 meters), a tower evolution (250 m) and probably transport terminal (167 m) and will be ready frameworks of a federation tower, Eurasia and mercury towers . also there are many buildings of inhabited towers on suburbs of Moscow
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http://photofile.ru/users/kirgam/4016491/96621229
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I really hate the first one.. but what can they do if they need residential apartments? Surely Dubai can't help it either.

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Warsaw Poland
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Dnipropetrovsk-Ukraine

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Moscow

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Growing Sarajevo skyline in HDR, by sale_01 flickr.com

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:cheers:

I haven't heard anything about the damage, caused by the fire, to Federation Tower? Is the cause of the fire known? Can someone give a quick blurb about it.

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Im very impressed with the skyline of Ukranian cities.

Colour and height :okay:

Warsaw


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The last one of Warsaw is amazing! :okay:

Sarajevo by BNX

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