Height (struct.) 71 m 233 ft
Floors (OG) 24

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1215/220080130110121view2a3eq6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

have we heard about this?

http://orangetee.com.au/OTprojects/images/2/2_20080130_110121_view2A3.jpg

176 Adelaide Terrace - Project Development

Demand for apartments in this trendy inner-city suburb is increasing as numerous new development projects create a bustling and vibrant community hosting a wide range of entertainment, commercial and retail developments. This resort-style apartment complex will feature a range of two bedroom, two bathroom apartments, with a luxury fit out and stunning river views.

Special care has been taken to preserve the original stone church that was built on the site in 1940. This beautiful building will provide a unique heritage entrance statement making a real feature of the complex lobby.

Join the thousands of residents who live and work in the area and experience the excitement and sophistication of living in the city with all of Perth's finest shopping, dining and nightlife destinations right at your doorstep. With pre-sales expected to commence late in 2008, this will be one development that is sure to sell fast.

Contact : Corrado Cusma
Tel : +618 9225 5266
Fax : +618 9225 5277
Mobile : 0412 923 214

Email : corrado.cusma@orangetee.com.au


previously.

24/07/2006 176 Adelaide Terrace
EAST PERTH WA 6004
Fourty Eight Residential
Apartments and Two
Commercial Units with 58
Car Parking Bays.
12,500,000.00

Gah more luxury apartments :(

Will add something to the skyline I suppose...

Gah more luxury apartments :(

Will add something to the skyline I suppose...

Really the render suggests otherwise.

Forget Scarborough, it's turning into Gold-Coast-on-the-Swan.

its great!
i wish just one builder had the guts to get a 130m + in east perth and then others would follow. would really have east perth become part of the 'city'

It's a matter of time, planning and viability. Once their is critical mass of people the future could hold potential 200m apartment buildings in East Perth. Though im personally a fan of smaller apartment buildings i like broken up skylines.

perth has the potential to be like an american city really if this sort of skyline keeps dragging on, even tho this project wont make much of an impact, a few more talls stretching it out will make for a massive panorama shot in 2012 with the big 7 being built

They need to move into North Perth, Highgate and Mt Lawley, that way the city will begin to look like a real city and not a carboard cut out!!! Then perhaps even Como and Canning Bridge.

whats the bet that this will go back to council as a revised DA and we will see a better design?

whats the bet that this will go back to council as a revised DA and we will see a better design?

And a height increase.

At 66m approx the same height as "The Peak"

Render looks pretty cool, imagine another 10 floor's........wow!

Not listed on emporis.com?

yeah its on emporis. render and all.

So it's,

Height (struct.) 71 m 233 ft
Floors (OG) 24
Status approved

how do you know that?

emporis.com

I guess this hasn't been to council yet?

nah its gone dead. Perhaps we will har more on it later this year.

nah its gone dead. Perhaps we will har more on it later this year.

It is now what 4 months down the track, and do we have any news on this?
OR Should it be renamed as "cancelled" or something?

i have a feeling this is cancelled but i suppose later this year means december... but then again the building industry tends to collectively knock off then

nothing really missing much.

Looks like Thamesmead:
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/6535/downie174zr.jpg

^ was that the same housing estate featured in the movie 'beautiful thing' or do they all look like that over there?

Anyway, the site is up for sale with DA. They want $5m for it.

Details: http://www.realcommercial.com.au/cgi-bin/rsearch?a=depi&t=com&id=5505235&img=m&c=5542439&p=10&s=wa&tm=1241011059

unfortunately for the vendor the DA is pretty much worth fuck all considering the butt ugly design.

^ was that the same housing estate featured in the movie 'beautiful thing' or do they all look like that over there?


Yes, 'Beautiful Thing' was set and filmed in Thamesmead. Possibly one of my favourite feel good films. I used to have a crush on 'Ste'. Also filmed there was Aphex Twin's 'Come to Daddy' video and bits of "A Clockwork Orange".

From WABN:

http://www.wabusinessnews.com.au/en-story/1/79756/Diploma-plans-50m-CBD-project

Diploma plans $50m CBD project
Property: 13-April-10 by Rebecca Lawson

Diploma Group is set to expand its presence in the eastern end of the Perth CBD, today announcing its fourth high-rise apartment building on Adelaide Terrace, valued at $50 million.

The property developer today said it had acquired the site at 176 Adelaide Terrace in East Perth and planned to develop a 24-level building comprising 80 apartments.

The high-rise will also include a range of lifestyle amenities, including a swimming pool, barbecue facilities and a fully equipped gymnasium.

The building currently features a heritage-listed old stone church, and Diploma said it was well-equipped to handle working around the 1940 dedicated church.

Diploma chief executive Nick Di Latte said the building adds to the company's growing portfolio, and will contribute to 2012-13 earnings.

"Diploma is experienced at delivering high quality, affordable inner-city apartment developments as shown with the recent completion of Peak, Sky and Rise Apartments, and Zenith which will be completed in the months ahead," Mr Di Latte said.

"Diploma's market presence in the apartment market at the eastern end of the Perth CBD and the fact we are announcing more projects is testament to the continued market demand for our product."

Construction at the Adelaide Terrace site is expected to start early next year.

Hopefully there are some updated renders of the approved design, the originals were vague at best (or just simply - ugly).

From WABN:

http://www.wabusinessnews.com.au/en-story/1/79756/Diploma-plans-50m-CBD-project

Diploma plans $50m CBD project
Property: 13-April-10 by Rebecca Lawson

Diploma Group is set to expand its presence in the eastern end of the Perth CBD, today announcing its fourth high-rise apartment building on Adelaide Terrace, valued at $50 million.

The property developer today said it had acquired the site at 176 Adelaide Terrace in East Perth and planned to develop a 24-level building comprising 80 apartments.

The high-rise will also include a range of lifestyle amenities, including a swimming pool, barbecue facilities and a fully equipped gymnasium.

The building currently features a heritage-listed old stone church, and Diploma said it was well-equipped to handle working around the 1940 dedicated church.

Diploma chief executive Nick Di Latte said the building adds to the company's growing portfolio, and will contribute to 2012-13 earnings.

"Diploma is experienced at delivering high quality, affordable inner-city apartment developments as shown with the recent completion of Peak, Sky and Rise Apartments, and Zenith which will be completed in the months ahead," Mr Di Latte said.

"Diploma's market presence in the apartment market at the eastern end of the Perth CBD and the fact we are announcing more projects is testament to the continued market demand for our product."

Construction at the Adelaide Terrace site is expected to start early next year.


75m

Zenith is 24levels and is 70meters to the roof.
but has 124 apartments and this has 80? odd

but 72meters :D

Sanj, dont you usly say 0 ?

Thats Samboy :)

That's Samboy.
edit: beaten to it.

0m for me.

haha no he's right, i used to say 0m to beat samboy to it. diploma will probably be successful in getting it up though

Is this across the road from fairlanes?
if so the lot for it is realy skinny.

haha no he's right, i used to say 0m to beat samboy to it. diploma will probably be successful in getting it up though

oi stop casting aspersions on me. all my zeros are still holes in the ground ;)

This one's a goer though.

At 24 levels it will be a new design. The previous one was no more than 20.

24x3 is 72m. With plant rooms plus a higher ground floor it should breach 80m. I'm going with 85m for good measure.

This will have to be on the rear of the site as the Adelaide Tce frontage is all church. Plus Fairlanes in front of it. Wonder how many people have bought off the plan knowing that this will be immediately built out.

Could (or is that should) be a non-luxury fitout: but with Pool & Gym, perhaps not.

This will have to be on the rear of the site as the Adelaide Tce frontage is all church. Plus Fairlanes in front of it. Wonder how many people have bought off the plan knowing that this will be immediately built out.

Could (or is that should) be a non-luxury fitout: but with Pool & Gym, perhaps not.

bought off the plan where?

its great!
i wish just one builder had the guts to get a 130m + in east perth and then others would follow. would really have east perth become part of the 'city'

East Perth needs some decent highrise apartments!

Ive got nothing wrong with 300ft Apartments.

Ill take a punt and say 77.8m.

I looked on google maps last night to see the church behind which this building will go (it looks so out of place amongst all those bland old single story commercial developments), but it was hard to make out from street level what is behind the church. Does anyone know what will be demolished to make way for this?

I looked on google maps last night to see the church behind which this building will go (it looks so out of place amongst all those bland old single story commercial developments), but it was hard to make out from street level what is behind the church. Does anyone know what will be demolished to make way for this?

Yeah to me it looks like a skinny narrow lot with a car park at the back and then a shed or small house.

Perhaps the Church will get taken down too? What is the church of? Perhaps they have sold the land and have built a bigger church elsewhere....

Or will the tower be built behind it. I mean for access construction workers would have to enter from somewhere, but between the wall next door and the church the room looks inadequate for big trucks?

Or is access via Bennett Street at the back? It looks like there's a lane there...
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/9818/176adelaidestreeteastpe.jpg (http://img685.imageshack.us/i/176adelaidestreeteastpe.jpg/)

Also what's that big vacant land here at 190 besides the Perth Ambassodor Hotel?

bought off the plan where?

Sorry Sanj, i keep thinking Diploma are the builders - not the property developers of this site. Hence, i thought the construction contract had already been tendered and won.

Getting ahead of myself.

From Diploma website,
http://www.diploma.com.au/Portals/0/docs/ASX/836701.pdf

Sales expected mod-2010. Construction starts early 2011.

I was across the road, so I thought I'd cross and get some pictures :)

http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/2002/dsc0094fq.jpg
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/8216/dsc0093sj.jpg

From Todays West

24 Stories, dibs on 75m :)
http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/5858/176adelaideterrace.jpg

Rise is 24st/92m, Zenith 24/80.

Thanks Marissa for rehashing months old news.

i almost blew a fuse when i read a couple of tha articles linked earlier written by her, like tha one with tha headline "perth loses most expensive accommodation" tag... i read it but it read like it was a bad thing that perth lost its claim to having overpriced hotels that aren't even that great...

she better be hot because she isnt good at writing

^^ heard she byo her own cushion's to meetings with the editors...

:)

she better be hot because she isnt good at writing

I've always assumed the same thing about you...

I've always assumed the same thing about you...

:lol:

ouch! what's wrong vicky? did someone slip some lard into your bagel this morning?

did someone slip some lard into your bagel this morning?

is that a euphemism?

is that a euphemism?

Hahaha, my filthy mind assumed it was a euphemism from the get go, third-person Sanj.

Nah, its just been a few shitty days at work, looking forward to tomorrow and my weekly networking lunch (Grilld) where I can just let out a bit of steam.

This will be called iSpire

http://www.allegrorealty.com.au/ispire-east-perth/

iSpire 2.0

Diploma dont waste time :)

Looks cheap.

iDon't-like-tha-name...

Looks cheap.

what looks cheap? I couldn't see anything.

what looks cheap? I couldn't see anything.

LOL I was thinking the same thing!

Thats why it looks so cheap, theres nothing there!

Looks cheap.

sounds cheap ? Ispire 2.0?
Not that Ipod sounds cheap, but to me it sounds like it's an ipod.... :lol:

Or will this have a letter I on it for a spire?

Or it's a cheap version as they couldn't afford to call it "ASPIRE" as another development is already called that, or someone couldn't spell or; the name Apsire sounds too fancy, and ISPIRE is simply a water-downed version of Aspire. :nuts:

The buidling?

Or the Font, Photo and Website in general?

The building name....

Gosh its only a name, settle down
building names are always changed so dont let it worry you.
No one has seen a render of it so you can realy call it cheap :)

I just hope DC make it a good design,
Also the picture of the view from the tower on the page PG linked
will be nothing like that :lol:

iHopeitwilluselesswhitepaint.

The architect will probably be LJ Scanlan. Same mob who did Sky/Rise/Elevation.

So a white fridge with an occasional use of colour to break it a little.

Even fridge makers have moved onto stainless. Someone should tell Perth architects.

Even fridge makers have moved onto stainless. Someone should tell Perth architects.

lol

They were selling these apartments in The Sunday Times on the weekend. There was a small night time render (pretty average standard fridge imho), and they appear to be going with the rather dreadful name of iSpire.

http://www.allegrorealty.com.au/files/08-contact_08.jpg

http://www.allegrorealty.com.au/files/08-contact_08.jpg

Looks ok for an apartment building.

I found The Sunday Times outside soo, here :)

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/8053/renderym.jpg

Not bad for a gap filler. This is a pretty unlikely site for development given the many constraints so good on them for proposing something pretty reasonable. Diploma have a good track record for delivering and zenith seems to be turning out ok.

it looks good!

why cant more resi towers look like the tallest one at burswood? or raffles? something that actually looks good!? is it so hard??

Not bad for a gap filler. This is a pretty unlikely site for development given the many constraints so good on them for proposing something pretty reasonable.

I was thinking the same thing yesterday. I measured up the area of the lot it is being built on using Nearmap. Couldnt be any more than 400m2 max. Gives hope to a lot of small properties all through the city to being developed into something that is needed (inner city residents).

just looked it up, the entire lot is 902sqm but that includes the church

Yeah true but the church is staying, I was only referring to the parking lot at the back. I was mainly impressed with how small a relatively unused area can be to used to build something of fairly significant impact.

I see this site everyday after work while i stand and wait for a bus and it is a tiny site!! Construction will be an interesting exercise!!

19/10/2010
176 Adelaide Terrace EAST PERTH WA 6004
2 Signs - Allegro, Diploma
5,000.00 SIGNDA 2010/6559

they have also dressed up the paving out the front of the church.

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg293/bojach/ispire.jpg

Lol. Perth's wankiest tower yet. Reminds me of apartment marketing from the 80's.

Design wise it's just another gap filler. Pleasant to look at but nothing special. 70-75m high so it'll only be visible from the north and S-E.

fucking boring, diploma are becoming a bit like finbar re their towers looking similar to each other. pretty smart marketing if you ask me - things like docking stations, touch screen and photo frames would cost fuck all but when u package it up with a car stacking system (which exists purely out of necessity) it can indeed give the impression of being something different.

certainly a lot cheaper to do things like this than design and build something interesting and i suspect it'll work as well

The building itself looks to be half decent (kinda reminds me of Rise), funny how they say nothing about river views,
I woner how many people buying into this know about Fairlanes :lol:

Perth's second car stacker :)
I'm hoping for 80meters!

first tower to have a section of glass spanning tha length of tha building for a resi?

That marketing sounds like a high school student has written it. It is quite embarrassing that something like this will probably sell out within a week.

It is a fairly average development with the usual 'luxury' marketing and price tag with a few gimmicks thrown in (that probably cost heaps more). Design wise it is boring and unimaginative, they have obviously tried to get brownie points putting a few red panels down the side. It is great to see a continuous section of glass however I suspect that this will turn out to be much like that in reflections and NOT the same colour in the final design.

I support this development in terms of the function it will have, however design and price wise I think it demonstrates the immaturity of the Perth inner city resi market.

That marketing sounds like a high school student has written it. It is quite embarrassing that something like this will probably sell out within a week.

It is a fairly average development with the usual 'luxury' marketing and price tag with a few gimmicks thrown in (that probably cost heaps more). Design wise it is boring and unimaginative, they have obviously tried to get brownie points putting a few red panels down the side. It is great to see a continuous section of glass however I suspect that this will turn out to be much like that in reflections and NOT the same colour in the final design.

I support this development in terms of the function it will have, however design and price wise I think it demonstrates the immaturity of the Perth inner city resi market.

listen to the man kids, he speaks the truth

I find it funny the starting price is $385,000
which gets you a 1X1 north facing apartment on the ground floor which looks into another building...

iSpi with my little eye. I'm thinking of a tower with a crap name starting with i.

fucking boring, diploma are becoming a bit like finbar re their towers looking similar to each other. pretty smart marketing if you ask me - things like docking stations, touch screen and photo frames would cost fuck all but when u package it up with a car stacking system (which exists purely out of necessity) it can indeed give the impression of being something different.

certainly a lot cheaper to do things like this than design and build something interesting and i suspect it'll work as well

There is nothing wrong with the design of this building (especially given the size of the block). I know you are very critical of almost every apartment building proposed n built (not that its a bad thing), but they are apartment buildings where people live so they need to be some what functional. Compared to other cities in the world our stock of apartment building are in no way crap or boring. However, we do need landmark developments, but not every single one... lets get the people in to the city first.

Please provide an example of what you would consider a Sanj worthy design for a residential tower and where you think it would be suitable in Perth.


P.s Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. :)

P.p.s Not a dig, just interested in your thoughts rather than predictable criticism

A friend of mine designed this apartment building in NYC a few years ago, I think its a pretty cool development (completed 2004), it didn't get a huge amount of press:

http://www.metropolismag.com/webimages/2471/SCHEIN-ENTRY-3_t346.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2781/4328109993_82cf1ac6a0.jpg

http://wirednewyork.com/real_estate/497greenwich/497greenwich.jpg

There is nothing wrong with the design of this building (especially given the size of the block). I know you are very critical of almost every apartment building proposed n built (not that its a bad thing), but they are apartment buildings where people live so they need to be some what functional. Compared to other cities in the world our stock of apartment building are in no way crap or boring. However, we do need landmark developments, but not every single one... lets get the people in to the city first.

Please provide an example of what you would consider a Sanj worthy design for a residential tower and where you think it would be suitable in Perth.


P.s Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. :)

P.p.s Not a dig, just interested in your thoughts rather than predictable criticism


a) i agree that in isolation there is nothing inherently wrong with it. the issue is that there is nothing interesting or exciting about it either. i make absolutely no apologies for the fact that i yearn for something that doesnt remind me immediately of other towers in the immediate vicinity. have you been that beaten down by the sea of mediocrity that suddenly "nothing wrong" is worthy of praise?

b) if you genuinely feel that our stock of apartment buildings is not boring then fair enough but you have surprisingly low standards. can you name me many exciting apartment buildings in perth(both high rise as well as smaller ones)?. go on, id love to be proven wrong.

c) surely we can have both form and function? im in no way saying they should not be functional, of course they should.

d) bringing people into the city isnt the issue. everyone agrees that is a good thing

honestly did this, or any tower proposed recently in perth make you sit back and go wow? did anything make you genuinely excited/interested?

if not then that is exactly what i was referring to as boring. in isolation sure it is fine but that is now 4 towers by diploma within a 2km radius that i have found boring. zenith is probably the best but i find the apartments too narrow and not functional

as for some interesting ones i will find a couple of pics and post. would appreciate a response too, especially to the part where you feel our apartments are in no way crap or boring compared to the rest of the world

btw no offence taken whatsoever but i do think it's funny that you find my criticism predictable. perhaps you recognise ispires lack of interesting features too?

nate - exactly. see gabs, that does not remind me of another building in perth that has gone up recently

a) i agree that in isolation there is nothing inherently wrong with it. the issue is that there is nothing interesting or exciting about it either. i make absolutely no apologies for the fact that i yearn for something that doesnt remind me immediately of other towers in the immediate vicinity. have you been that beaten down by the sea of mediocrity that suddenly "nothing wrong" is worthy of praise?

b) if you genuinely feel that our stock of apartment buildings is not boring then fair enough but you have surprisingly low standards. can you name me many exciting apartment buildings in perth(both high rise as well as smaller ones)?. go on, id love to be proven wrong.

c) surely we can have both form and function? im in no way saying they should not be functional, of course they should.

d) bringing people into the city isnt the issue. everyone agrees that is a good thing

honestly did this, or any tower proposed recently in perth make you sit back and go wow? did anything make you genuinely excited/interested?

if not then that is exactly what i was referring to as boring. in isolation sure it is fine but that is now 4 towers by diploma within a 2km radius that i have found boring. zenith is probably the best but i find the apartments too narrow and not functional

as for some interesting ones i will find a couple of pics and post. would appreciate a response too, especially to the part where you feel our apartments are in no way crap or boring compared to the rest of the world

btw no offence taken whatsoever but i do think it's funny that you find my criticism predictable. perhaps you recognise ispires lack of interesting features too?


95% of apartments anywhere in the world tend to blend into one another in terms of design (I will post some of my pics from Santiago where most apartments look like Aaron's serviced apartments in the city, even the new ones), and then the remaining 5% are the truely inspiring ones. I agree that Perth is lacking this 5%. Equus is most almost there, but the eastern side (blank wall) lets it down.

If you look at the 3- 4 buildings near the corner of Bennett and Adelaide tce, they dont look bad when you look at them individually, but if you are looking from afar they all do have similar characteristics and I can see the point you are making.

the one that nate posted is a good example of excellent design, but it is a smallish scale infill building, and there are really good examples of well designed apartments in Northbridge.

I would love to continue but I have people coming into my office and I keep losing my train of thought... :(

95% (


Sanj asked you to provide one example of a good apartment building in Perth?

Genuinely curious - I tend to gloss over apartments in Perth, to my eye, they are all pretty shit. Would like to have me eyes opened...

AGREED, IF EQUUS DIDNT HAVE A BLANK WALL IT WOULD BE THE PINNACLE OF DESIGN. TRULY WORLD CLASS

give me a fucking break. because santiago has boring buildings it justifies us having boring cookie cutter buildings too??

Sanj asked you to provide one example of a good apartment building in Perth?

Genuinely curious - I tend to gloss over apartments in Perth, to my eye, they are all pretty shit. Would like to have me eyes opened...

waiting...

Raffles, Aurora are the only apartment buildings in Perth with curtain wall cladding.

AGREED, IF EQUUS DIDNT HAVE A BLANK WALL IT WOULD BE THE PINNACLE OF DESIGN. TRULY WORLD CLASS

give me a fucking break. because santiago has boring buildings it justifies us having boring cookie cutter buildings too??

Stop yelling!

Not just Santiago, but Japan, Hong Kong, etc... What you call cookie cutter, I am sure some other cities would call iconic, meaning these buildings are pretty unique to Perth as I havent seen much of it anywhere else on my travels.

we're going to have to agree to disagree here if you think a finbar building would be iconic in comparable cities

still waiting for the example of great, recent perth residential apartment buildings by the way

I cant give you great... I said that Perth is lacking that 5% wow factor... But I can give you good...

Condor.

I think that if "sky" apartments were proposed in a non Australian or Asian city they would be received quite positively, but yes, if that was all they were getting, then I can see your frustration with them.

Same with house designs, you see a design and think "yes wow, that is nice" but when you look the suburb on a whole it just becomes another face in the crowd and loses that uniqueness.

ok thats fine. condor.

that was proposed in 2004. anything since then?

sky is pretty damn similar to rise across the road, which has some similarities to ispire so no, that is not unique

by the way im ok with not having bloody amazing buildings, as nice as that would be. what i want is more interesting buildings, not just a sea of shite that i feel completely apathetic to. at least condor is interesting so i do agree with you there. not 100% to my taste but definitely interesting

The two best resi towers I've seen proposed for Perth never got off the ground, namely Icon and 18 The Esplanade. Probably says alot about the market.

IMO of our current stock Raffles is easily the best tower.

ok thats fine. condor.

that was proposed in 2004. anything since then?

sky is pretty damn similar to rise across the road, which has some similarities to ispire so no, that is not unique

by the way im ok with not having bloody amazing buildings, as nice as that would be. what i want is more interesting buildings, not just a sea of shite that i feel completely apathetic to. at least condor is interesting so i do agree with you there. not 100% to my taste but definitely interesting

In that it is a hise rise building. The colours, features, facades are different.

its like saying, commodores and falcons are the same... cos they both are 4 door sedans.

This development kinda reminds me of Spire Apartments in Adelaide (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=53328&page=28), which was also a medium sized apartment tower on a small lot, with a car stacker system, with a superfical similarity in the design. But looks like the one in Adelaide is cancelled, in which case this really is iSpire 2.0. But I hear there are plans to rename it as CheesyLife, in reference to the marketing.

In that it is a hise rise building. The colours, features, facades are different.

its like saying, commodores and falcons are the same... cos they both are 4 door sedans.

layouts are extremely similar and so are finishes, they are both tall, straight, mainly white towers with your usual rectangular balconies, no curves, a little bit of colour and a small "feature" to make it interesting

hardly groundbreakingly different, excuse my lack of awe

btw i notice you havent replid to my post, r u saying there has been nothing exciting since condor? nothing in 6 years?

Icon was the shit :(! Pretty sure i still have printed floor plans and a heep of materials i got sent somewhere - because i was an "interested buyer"

I cant give you great... I said that Perth is lacking that 5% wow factor... But I can give you good...

Condor.

I think that if "sky" apartments were proposed in a non Australian or Asian city they would be received quite positively, but yes, if that was all they were getting, then I can see your frustration with them.

Same with house designs, you see a design and think "yes wow, that is nice" but when you look the suburb on a whole it just becomes another face in the crowd and loses that uniqueness.

layouts are extremely similar and so are finishes, they are both tall, straight, mainly white towers with your usual rectangular balconies, no curves, a little bit of colour and a small "feature" to make it interesting

hardly groundbreakingly different, excuse my lack of awe

btw i notice you havent replid to my post, r u saying there has been nothing exciting since condor? nothing in 6 years?

Are you even reading my posts? I have agreed with your every post regarding looking at these buildings in a broad view. I am saying however and you have agreed also that in isolation the design of these builds are not crap, etc, even tho you constantly ridicule each proposal.

I think JohnVB said it best about the immaturity of Perth's inner-city highrise market. but to say these building are poor designs is a bit harsh.

I said it was broing you clown. Can you honestly say it isn't boring considering the similarities with the other buildings???

One feature I do like about Perth apartments, is nearly every apartment has a balcony.

This is not the case in many cities, for example, Hong Kong. Hot/cold/dry/humid, I think every apartment should have a balcony. Humans like to be outdoors in their own home.

I wouldnt say they boring, I would say they arent great.

Adequately doing the job they were designed to do... which is not suck and not stand out!

p.s Broing?? you been watching to much How I met your mother?!! LOL

One feature I do like about Perth apartments, is nearly every apartment has a balcony.

This is not the case in many cities, for example, Hong Kong. Hot/cold/dry/humid, I think every apartment should have a balcony. Humans like to be outdoors in their own home.

it is a requirement in the RCodes that every apartment over a certain size (65sqm I think) has a balcony with a min dimension of 1.5m

The two best resi towers I've seen proposed for Perth never got off the ground, namely Icon and 18 The Esplanade. Probably says alot about the market.

IMO of our current stock Raffles is easily the best tower.

18 The Esplanade is beyond any resi tower we have.
To be completly honest Icon wasnt brilliant, it was good but yeah

Raffles and Aurora are the best we have, the two new ones that are going to be built at Burswood will be better..hopfully.

Also, I'd give, well I'd just really like for this to be built here :)
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One of mine from T42
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=64860977

^^

that is the 5% surrounded by the 95%... Sky is better than all of those apartments surrounding.

:lol:

^100% agree that Sky is better than all of them, but then again alot of them would have been built in the 90's... maybe earlier

^^

that is the 5% surrounded by the 95%... Sky is better than all of those apartments surrounding.

:lol:

Not a good comparison though as I would have thought most of those towers are post-war council housing estates from the 1960s-80s. The area in and around Elephant & Castle is notorious for them.

This development kinda reminds me of Spire Apartments in Adelaide (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=53328&page=28), which was also a medium sized apartment tower on a small lot, with a car stacker system, with a superfical similarity in the design. But looks like the one in Adelaide is cancelled, in which case this really is iSpire 2.0. But I hear there are plans to rename it as CheesyLife, in reference to the marketing.

Adelaide's Spire proposal was terrible. Shonky sales and marketing, average design, countless delays until it was finally axed earlier this year.

I can see similarities with this Perth proposal, how ironic it is on Adelaide Terrace

except ours will get off the ground :P

I'm bored, and I havnt seen these so I thought I'd print screen these from Diploma's website :)

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wonder if it will REALLY have the colored sections all the way up the sides?? hope so.

Incidently, that brand new buiding at the Elephant is a Brookfield Multiplex contruction.

The white buildngs in the lower right of the above pic were office buildings coverted into apartments (Alexander Fleming House by Erno Goldfinger. He is most remembered for his brutalist Trellick Tower in West London).

I agree with the majority that Perth is being over run with samey samey boring boxes. We need something exciting and interesting for a change. BRING BACK ICON!

Was Icon the one proposed near QV1 - the curved, tall building? If so, that would have been Perth's best tall imo.

Icon was proposed on the site where Alluvion now stands.

If anyone can be bothered, maybe post a pic of it in the appropriate threat? (Proposed/Never Built thread, I think). I really liked Altus (gonged, too).

Incidently, that brand new buiding at the Elephant is a Brookfield Multiplex contruction.

The white buildngs in the lower right of the above pic were office buildings coverted into apartments (Alexander Fleming House by Erno Goldfinger. He is most remembered for his brutalist Trellick Tower in West London).

I agree with the majority that Perth is being over run with samey samey boring boxes. We need something exciting and interesting for a change. BRING BACK ICON!

Wasn't there a movie about him in the 60s?

28/10/2010
176 Adelaide Terrace EAST PERTH WA 6004
17 Storey apartment building above a 5 storey car park, mezzanine level and ground floor lobby.
14,375,000.00
DA 2010/2344

1 bedroom apartments begin at $430,000
2 bedroom 1 bathroom, $525,000
2 bedroom 2 bathroom $620,000

(supposedly "special" prices likely to be revised upwards)

So the one bedder only has an en suite? :nuts:

Wasn't there a movie about him in the 60s?

He was Ian Flemming's neighbour. Flemming hated the architecture of his neighbour's house so much that he named the villain in his next Bond novel after him. This is true :)

And here was I thinking this would be a little Perth sized Chicago Spire. Should have known it was another duff name for a diploma fridge, albeit with a lick of paint

What gave you that impression? I'm pretty sure everyone here expected just another brick in the wall.

For those of you unhappy about this tower just count your blessings that we are not getting this:

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manila style render... yay.

What gave you that impression? I'm pretty sure everyone here expected just another brick in the wall.

Dunno. Wishful thinking.... Just the name "Spire" doesn't conjure up images of a blocky "Perth Fridge"

Will be 72m but could be reduced. The fuckwits at design and advisory don't want to award them a 19% bonus even though the old church will be used as art gallery to be run by Artrage.

http://perth.wa.gov.au/documentdb/2117.pdf

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The roof feature has been cut courtesy of the DAC

wont let me post in ispire thread .. retarded.


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bathroom fit out is nice as far as new apartments go IMO.

Everything else (namely the kitchen) looks pretty standard.

^^guessing that's a 1brm?

so tha church is solely a gallery or cafe/gallery? cafe there would be good...

edit: just realised dilaz's comment... that sucks so much... tha roof structure at least made it look interesting... how dare tha developer try to make it look interesting... good to see design excellence being pushed at all cost... they'd rather a painted patch work against tha side of tha building, that something that might give tha building some structure interest...

yay.

what the hell was wrong with the roof feature? seemed fairly standard to me

The roof feature has been cut courtesy of the DAC

Is it just my brain, or does the balcony photo seem back to front - making iSpire on the wrong side of the road ?

I guess its just being used to give buyers an indication of views etc...

Diploma wanted a 20% PR bonus but the DAC only awarded them 12.5% so they had to cut a whopping 350m2 of floor space. The penthouse where the roof feature was has been scrapped in favour of a rooftop amenities area.

Is it just my brain, or does the balcony photo seem back to front - making iSpire on the wrong side of the road ?

I guess its just being used to give buyers an indication of views etc...

you are correct. it took me a while to figure out what they have done.

Diploma wanted a 20% PR bonus but the DAC only awarded them 12.5% so they had to cut a whopping 350m2 of floor space. The penthouse where the roof feature was has been scrapped in favour of a rooftop amenities area.

They will probably just build what ever they want anyway. Not sure why they even bothered submitting a development application.

They will probably just build what ever they want anyway. Not sure why they even bothered submitting a development application.


Yep, if I understand right, the Zenith redesign will cost, at most $250k in fines.

So, just build the Penthouse, it's worth a lot more than that.

Yeah you're on the money. Apparently they're not even going to be fined.

The planning committee recomended the council not go ahead with litigation.

I'm hoiping the council will not take their recomendation.

awesome, im hoping for even more cowboy behaviour.

fuck PCC and the DAC with their bullshit

I dont understand why they make them take the penthouse down, but they let them build disgusting things like Zenith...

Confusing to say the least, they need more strict design rules

awesome, im hoping for even more cowboy behaviour.

fuck PCC and the DAC with their bullshit

Id agree if it wasn't for that crime they have build down the road.

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176 Adelaide Terrace
EAST PERTH WA 6004
17 Storey apartment building above a 4 storey car park, mezzanine level and ground floor lobby.
15,812,500.00 BA

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Why do I get the feeling they ripped that Nick Brandt image straight off his website without permission.

Looks like your standard sized shitbox found anywhere in Maylands or Wembley, albeit updated.

I wonder how sales of these are going. Construction is due to commence this month.

i walked past the sight yesterday. It's so tiny!

^^Nice apartment setting, it looks like theyre about to sit down and watch the lion king haha.

Looks like your standard sized shitbox found anywhere in Maylands or Wembley, albeit updated.

having been in a lot of shitboxes in maylands and wembley i can honestly say you are pretty damn far away from the truth here...

I wonder how sales of these are going. Construction is due to commence this month.

They seem sooo expensive - starting at almost 500k for a sub-50sqm 1 bedder, with a no doubt horrendous strata fees due to the car stacker. Even the "penthouse" is only 77sqm, and is 800k.

I guess this is what is costs to buy a new apartment in the CBD these days.

they're luxurious...

They seem sooo expensive - starting at almost 500k for a sub-50sqm 1 bedder, with a no doubt horrendous strata fees due to the car stacker. Even the "penthouse" is only 77sqm, and is 800k.

I guess this is what is costs to buy a new apartment in the CBD these days.

are you serious??? anyone who buys in here is a fucking idiot, true story

There's a huge 'fucking idiot' market in Perth. That would be my target demographics if I ever start a business.

hahahaha

true

Be funny for people thinking they are gonna get river views and have Fairlanes bang in front of them :)

having been in a lot of shitboxes in maylands and wembley i can honestly say you are pretty damn far away from the truth here...

I was thinking in terms of the space. I'd bet my proverbial that there is a kitchen right behind the renderer, and a bedroom to the left. Other than being more contemporary, and with a better view, I stick to my original synopsis (and I've toured many a Maylands shitbox myself).

Kinda like this...

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Be funny for people thinking they are gonna get river views and have Fairlanes bang in front of them :)

Would love to have Symphony City/fairlanes in front of me instead of the river :)

I was thinking in terms of the space. I'd bet my proverbial that there is a kitchen right behind the renderer, and a bedroom to the left. Other than being more contemporary, and with a better view, I stick to my original synopsis (and I've toured many a Maylands shitbox myself).

There are only so many ways you can lay out a one bed apartment having only 50-60m2 to work with.

I live in one myself - thankfully I snagged a corner one on the top floor off the plan, so there's glass everywhere and it feels twice as big as the "inside" one beside me. I'd want to kill myself if I lived in one of those narrow ones with a single aspect if it didn't have a far view. Yuck.

hai kids, looks like this is back on, now being sold by MLG. display apartment/office starts tomorrow


interestingly no mention of diploma on the email i received. prices also seem a lot lower than when it was first released earlier this year, seems finbar-like but from what i know finbar dont work with MLG anymore and havent for a few years.



Boasting a prized Adelaide Terrace address, Ispire showcases the best of luxury city living. With the Swan River foreshore, vibrant city shopping, delectable dining and the centre of Perth's business district all within a few minute's radius of its doorstep, Ispire is poised to become one of the city's most sought after residences.

Residents will enjoy an array of market leading features including:

1 Bedroom from only $395,000, 2 Bedroom from only $530,000
Wireless multi-room music system in each apartment
Resort amenity including roof top pool with sweeping river views
Roof top gymnasium
Grand entry lobby via a beautifully readapted heritage building which fuses with the brand new 21 storey tower
1 and 2 bedroom apartments available with river views from the upper levels

6/08/2012
176 Adelaide Terrace
Serviced Apartments 18 levels
$14,500,000 DA
2012/2195
EAST PERTH WA 6004

^^ That is for that "Ispire Apartments" building I think.

I guess it's just a renewal of the DA?

What do you think Dilaz?

changing to serviced apartments is an interesting move, could work imo

Will they still have built in iPhone connectivity?

Did Diploma sell it to someone else? I thought they were going to put it on the market. Or was this a JV...

it's still on their website.

The site is now up for sale.

http://www.realcommercial.com.au/property-land%2Fdevelopment-wa-east+perth-500468335?rsf=emailalert-propdetails

Maybe the site is now for sale as the owner doesn't want to go ahead with it anymore due to the fact Fairlanes is quite wide and is blocking out most of the river views. :nuts:

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nice amount of density cluster shown ^^.

Also in that slide show, is this bldg in the background Equus and Zenith?

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if so it's seriously quite ugly when comparing it to the old and more beautiful buildings to the right... :nuts:

It's because the owner doesn't have any money.

I thought so but just saying as Fairlanes is quite bulky. Pitty this is such a narrow lot too.

If I could afford it i'd like to buy that land just for the church and live in the church. Pitty it's got a $5 mil price tag on it though. I am guessing that price includes the approval for the building etc too though :)

It's because the owner doesn't have any money.

hm. in their financials dated (friday) 28/9/12 dgx said that their financier was considering rolling their $1.5m until 28/2/2013. property was listed (tuesday) 2/10/12. looks like that rollover suddenly didn't happen very shortly after that report was signed...

There's a render of this in the latest council agenda. Looks much the same as before, maybe a bit shorter.

Looks much better than iSpire though.

http://www.cityofperth.wa.gov.au/web/Media-Centre/?article=847

5th Nov 2012

A small, heritage-listed church building will be preserved as the entry point for a new 19-level apartment tower in Adelaide Terrace.

Under plans approved by the City of Perth Council, the former Indonesian Mission Baptist Church, nestled away at 176 Adelaide Terrace, will be adapted for reuse as a lobby and reception area.

Lord Mayor Lisa Scaffidi said the church (originally known as The New Church), was built in 1940 from Darlington stone and brick in the Inter-War Gothic style. The architect was Richard Spanney.

“The church building is a small architectural gem in the midst of a modern commercial and residential section of the city,” Ms Scaffidi said.

“The private development approved by council will ensure that this little piece of heritage is adapted for contemporary use as part of serviced apartment complex for which there is demand in our growing city,” Ms Scaffidi said.

“Retention of the church will also provide an attractive street-level entrance, providing human scale to the multi-level development at the rear of the site.

“A heritage agreement and detailed schedule of conservation works is required to be provided by the developer, Diploma, to the City of Perth and the Heritage Council of Western Australia before work on the project can start.”

The new tower will have 92 serviced apartments which can be used for short-stay accommodation, thereby helping to alleviate the shortage of hotel space in the city.

If this actually gets up.

You would be able to wash away your Sins as you return home each day.

And wash last nights sins away as you leave each morning.

I noticed today the sales sign for apartments has gone and replaced with a sale sign for the site.