Name: Denys Reitz
Location: Sandton
Floors:?
Height:?
Completion Date: november 2009
Use: Offices

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/hsark/DSC07055.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/hsark/DSC07054.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/hsark/DSC07057.jpg


got this info from a lecture last week the building is underconstruction and its being done by paragon architects i talked to 1 one of the partners i'll try get more info :banana:
hope this isnt a repost

Not a repost but a clarification! I think Pule had posted the renders before (who I think he got from Marco) but we weren't sure who it was for and where it was going to be. Looks uber hot!!

I'm guessing 15F for each tower?

Looks like it is being built behind Bowman Gilfillan Attorneys (also currently undergoing expansion it seems) and the Boeing headquarters...

bit wierd looking...

ya i got it from the same source as marco not sure of the height and forgot the number of floors ill try talk to the head architect some time or marco/pule will get the info but atleast we know what it is ,i've also got info of that hetic call

I Always thought that this looked similar to something.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/hsark/DSC07054.jpg
and then look carefully

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa259/granova/DSC00268.jpg


Mmmmmmm there are significant similarities.

By the looks of things it seems to be in around the same location, round the end of 5th.

Also thought of this KomSakkie, but that is only one building, compared to twins. BTW they are behind the residentialdev on sandton drive, ie next to American consulate and Virgin offices

Looks like there are two seperate buildings..... if you look at it closely. I maybe am being too imaginative.

I thought the American consult was being built just off Sandton Drive. I'm confused:ohno:

its on the corner of sandton and rivonia. It looks like its actually much closer to 1 sandton drive, and directly behind this building (red):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/hsark/DSC07057.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p246/In3rti4/poo.jpg

The building u talking abt KomSakkie would put that rendering way more to the left. But however i agree with you there are definite similarities in the two designs. I did drive past the building abt 2 days ago and it doesnt seem to be tapering at all. Ill try and get pics. Would be ironic cos thats next door to bowman gilfillan - also designed by paragon

I hope its the nice curvy design tho, the square one looks so bland after seeing this one.

^^ I agree with you. The curvy design will result in it being a particularly iconic building in Sandton. It's about time we got a bit creative.


By the looks of things it seems to be in around the same location, round the end of 5th.


I see what you mean now that it's at the end of 5th. I thought it was going to be on the corner of Fredman and Sandown Valley, sort of behind where Bowman Gilfillan is now.

I thought i would post a map for ease of reference... it's the Sandton Central 'jogging route' map

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g102/joburgboy/jogsandtonmap.jpg

The block building is already up a couple of floors in 5th, and it is just a random office building - not for deneys. So they are both going up.

Yip, I did post that before and the guys from Paragon promised to send me more information about it and Armadillo. But they told me that its next to Standard Bank of which I think Inertia is right about that position.

On the other side Komsakkie is right about those being 2 towers, I saw the pic yesterday and construction is on the 4th or 5th floor on this one.

This one is next to Boeing offices, please post it in an appropriate thread.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f119/Puleza/Johannesburg/P1080744.jpg

wat do boeing need big offices for?

I don't think this one has a thread as of yet so perhaps someone can create one, perhaps anybody who has a little more infomation.

There is a thread but I forgot what its called.

And yes, according to this its a twin tower and the architect is paragon.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f119/Puleza/Johannesburg/P1080812.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f119/Puleza/Johannesburg/P1080813.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f119/Puleza/Johannesburg/P1080811.jpg

its on the corner of sandton and rivonia. It looks like its actually much closer to 1 sandton drive, and directly behind this building (red):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/hsark/DSC07057.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p246/In3rti4/poo.jpg

The building u talking abt KomSakkie would put that rendering way more to the left. But however i agree with you there are definite similarities in the two designs. I did drive past the building abt 2 days ago and it doesnt seem to be tapering at all. Ill try and get pics. Would be ironic cos thats next door to bowman gilfillan - also designed by paragon


That means its not the same, check this photo out.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f119/Puleza/Johannesburg/P1080823.jpg

Any info?

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f119/Puleza/Johannesburg/P1090215.jpg

Reply from Paragon

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f119/Puleza/Johannesburg/P1080812.jpg

IS ANOTHER BUILDING WE HAVE DESIGNED IN SANDTON CENTRAL, NEXT TO BOWMAN GILFILLAN HEAD OFFICE WHICH IS FOR AN ADVERTISING AGENCY. IT SHOULD BE COMPLETE BY THE END OF AUGUST 2008.

Mike please change this to 24 floors as Mr Rasmuss from Paragon said 6 floors will be undergound parking and from the ground the bulding will be 18 floors up making it a total of 24 floors.

#Alice Lane Office Tower - 24/18 floors - Offices - Sandton, Johannesburg

R600-million Alice Lane towers conslidates legal cluster in Sandton CBD
11 Jun 2008 - eProp - Broll

Intro
The prestigious Sandton CBD skyline is poised for the construction of a new and iconic building: one that will redefine not only the standards of design in Johannesburg’s high-profile financial heartland, but also one adhering to environmental considerations.

The uniqueness of the 20,000m² Alice Lane Office Tower, has already attracted respected law firm Deneys Reitz Inc which, through Broll Property Group, has signed up to take two thirds of the space in the building on completion in 2010.

A joint development between Zenprop and Tiber, the 18-storey Alice Lane Office Tower is being developed at a cost of R600million and designed by up-and-coming young architect Anthony Orelowitz of Paragon Architects.

The office tower will stand amongst Sandton’s tall buildings as a high-profile destination providing ultra-desirable office space in Sandton, explains Broll’s Fran Teagle who introduced the site and the project to the tenant; co-ordinated an extensive space-planning exercise and worked with the relevant parties for approximately a year until the lease was signed.

Deneys Reitz Chairman Michael Hart explains that the leading law firm’s existing building is no longer big enough for its expanding business. The practice has already reconfigured the interior of its premises to maximise space usage. Despite this indications are that by 2010 it would either need to take supplementary premises to facilitate growth, or make a move.

A number of companies proposed their developments to the attorneys and ultimately Zenprop was selected for their ability to deliver to the practice’s specific requirements and do so at an appropriate market rental.

“We are comfortable that we have selected excellent partners. We have worked well together through some complicated negotiations and look forward to a building which delivers on its promises,” says Hart.

The requirements sought by Deneys Reitz were precise: the efficiency and environmental friendliness of the building, quality of space and facilities for staff and clients, and to be located within the Sandton Central area. Most importantly, they needed to come in at the right price.

“With seven of South Africa’s major law firms all located within a kilometre of each other within the Sandton Central node, we definitely wanted to stay within an area which has become the central financial district and also the central legal district and certainly believe we have secured the best site available,” notes Hart.

The building will offer the requisite infrastructure in terms of functional offices complemented by adequate and appropriate consulting rooms and an auditorium to host the variety of seminars which Deneys Reitz Attorneys regularly presents for its clients, many of which it is currently forced to host outside of its existing premises.

Alice Lane Office Tower also meets the practice’s need for future expansion options within the building. “With some 500 staff members the building offers us the space we require and with 85 years in business in South Africa we are certainly committed and confident about our future as an integral player in the financial services market,” says Hart.

Teagle points out that careful thought has been given to every element of the building, from its position in the heart of Africa’s most vibrant and prestigious business hub, to the building’s energy footprint.

“Material selection, the placement of the building itself, and attention to detail have been used to achieve the best possible energy performance for a high-rise commercial property,” notes Teagle.

The building will be iconic in design as well as in its environmental principles.

Both the eastern and western facades are thermally insulated with punched windows to reduce glazed areas; the northern and southern facades are double-glazed to cut energy costs.

“The design ensures that the end wings of the northern and southern facades are shaded with blinds to reduce the heat load,” explains Orelowitz. The building’s green nature is highlighted by its location in an extensive greenscape surrounded by reflective ponds and water elements.

“Picture two sculpted towers linked by a vertical atrium. Bridges spiral upwards in a fan-like fashion creating a dramatic internal environment,” describes Orelowitz.

Internally, the lobby offers high ceilings and generous volumes to create a sense of opulence on entry, and extends into the 18 floors of premier office space.

“In addition, Alice Lane Office Tower offers a six-storey parking basement,” he adds.

Zenprop CEO Rodney Weinstein reports that the development of 15 Alice Lane is a continuation of the company’s strategy to be invested in Sandton, South Africa’s premier office node. Zenprop’s projects in Sandton Central include Werksmans, Routledge Modise, Sun International and The Chambers in Fredman Drive, 3 & 4 Sandown Valley Crescent, and Peregrine House.

I like the paragon design. I'm a big fan of modernism and this reminds me of the Pretoria I grew up in

Guys, this is the 1st time Im seeing this? Im probably going blonde here, but is this thing going up? Has it been modified to that square ugly thing, thats going up & shown here? Tell me not, for I Love this building. Wicked!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/hsark/DSC07055.jpg

It is defrinately going up Harkeb as per the article I just posted. Another addition to Sandton's Skyline.

Brace yourselves for more appropritae photos of this beutiful structure.

Dear pule, I can e mail you some more images next week we have been very busy. And thanks for the compliment.
Armadillo not yet...perhaps 2009, and is close to the cbd.
Regards,
Henning Rasmuss

-----Original Message-----
From: Pule Mofokeng <puleza@mailmania.co.za>
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 12:00 PM
To: henningr@paragon.co.za <henningr@paragon.co.za>
Subject: RE: Armidilli

Hi Mr Rasmuss,

I see today in eprop.co.za the have fatured they have an rticle about this building and they call it Alice Lane Towers. I must appload you for the great work you doing and I hope construction on Armidilli will also start soon and I hope that it will be built either in Joburg CBD or closer to it.

Please advice me if there's any other buildings that you designing for anywhere in South Africa.

Here's the Article, http://www.eprop.co.za/news/article.aspx?idArticle=10308

kindest regards,

Pule








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Dysan please change this thread's heading as I sugested.

I'm not sure if these ones were posted before.

http://www.glh.co.za/images/projets/belvedere/imagebelvedere%20copy.jpg

^ if this is the future of office buildings in SA, I'm ecstatic :banana:

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/Sky%20Scrapercity/P1110178.jpg

The above is just a random office building next to Bowman in West Street(I think). It is not the 18F alice lane towers.

Also, the other "square" building is planned for Fredman drive, next to Fredman Place and RMB's new buildings. So Alice Lane will still be the curvy buildings that we see in the renders.

True Jakes, we got a thread for that but I forgot what we called it.

^^ Curvy Alice :)

Guys, this is the 1st time Im seeing this? Im probably going blonde here, but is this thing going up? Has it been modified to that square ugly thing, thats going up & shown here? Tell me not, for I Love this building. Wicked!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/hsark/DSC07055.jpg

The curvy ones are going up in Alice lane, next to ABSA Capital and behind Sandhurst Towers. Cranes are on site. The square building in this thread is a 7-10F that is completed next to BowmanGilfillan.

Yeah, saw the red crane there the other day. I hope that it will be as high as visible from M1. We need more nicer design in Sandton Skyline.

So whens this one starting?

I'm not sure if these ones were posted before.

http://www.glh.co.za/images/projets/belvedere/imagebelvedere%20copy.jpg
DB, if u mean this one then I must say that I don't trust it will go though.

Oh I was talking about the curvy one

Oh, its currently under construction.

DB, if u mean this one then I must say that I don't trust it will go though.

The two square towers in durbies pics are not related to the building in alice lane. They are supposed to be under construction in fredman drive next to fredman towers. But they havent even demolished the current structure, so I think it has stalled.

eish im confused was the last post a proposal ??

The two square towers in durbies pics are not related to the building in alice lane. They are supposed to be under construction in fredman drive next to fredman towers. But they havent even demolished the current structure, so I think it has stalled.

True.

The square building is currently supposed to be under construction in Fredman drive. I spoke to the developers earlier this year, construction would have started in Feb 2008. So it might be delayed.

But the curvy alice lane buildings are under construction.

I though the square one are complete
I am very confused
Could someone please put a picture of each building in a row and name them
AS there are so many reflecting pics on this thread

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/hsark/DSC07055.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f119/Puleza/Johannesburg/P1080812.jpg

http://www.glh.co.za/images/projets/belvedere/imagebelvedere%20copy.jpg

WHICH ONE IS WHICH
LETS GET THIS STRAIGHT ON ONE PAGE

Please!

Ahh ppl please remove all the renders! It's the curvy building, what's so hard to grasp?!

Two cranes on site
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa259/granova/DSC01658.jpg

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa259/granova/DSC01657.jpg

How far are they on this one?

It's not seasy to see what is happening at this development except cranes. Does someone knows a way that we can be able to view progress.

Mike please change the thread to 18 floors, in total it will be 24 but above the ground it will be 18.

guys i am COMPLETELY lost on what development is being spoken about here. there are three renders shown, alice lane towers mentioned, then told that the curvey ones arent those and that the building they replacing has not been demolished.

eish...can someone please finally clarify what the purpose of this thread is and lets remove all the other kak from it. then i will change its name and all

guys i am COMPLETELY lost on what development is being spoken about here. there are three renders shown, alice lane towers mentioned, then told that the curvey ones arent those and that the building they replacing has not been demolished.

eish...can someone please finally clarify what the purpose of this thread is and lets remove all the other kak from it. then i will change its name and all

Lost? You are not alone dude... I have no fvcking clue what is going on in here.... :ohno:

and I thought I was the only confused one...

^^ CURVEY TWINS

Confused? Wtf?

Ahh ppl please remove all the renders! It's the curvy building, what's so hard to grasp?!

It is the curvy ones. The other non-curvy building is already occupied (the one with the blueish glass), in West road. And one of the other buildings, the bright white glass one (also with two "towers") is proposed for Fredman drive next to fredman towers, however it is veeeeeeery quiet at this stage.

^^ CURVEY TWINS

Love curvey twins.....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/hsark/DSC07055.jpg


ALICE LANE TOWERS

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f119/Puleza/Johannesburg/P1080812.jpg

Random Finished Building in West Street

http://www.glh.co.za/images/projets/belvedere/imagebelvedere%20copy.jpg
Le Belvedere has not even started yet - they still need to demolish the old buildings... Construction was supposed to start Feb08. So it might be dead. Ignore the Deneys Reitz signage - I think they hoped that this might have been the major tenant. Le Belvedere is in Fredman Drive next to Fredman Towers.

Hope people are less confused.

it's Curvy Alice ppl!!
(maybe Le Belvedere was just a proposal by architects for the Denys Reitz building)

Ahh... now I also know what is going on... Im happy, coz I like the curvy ones most of all.

Yay, I love the curvies.

They completing second floor on this one, saw it this morning.

Any further updates?

How many floors expected for these?

24 but 18 floors above the ground.

Thanks Db.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/Puzela/P1150205.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/Puzela/P1150204.jpg

sharp sharp Pule

This one is also progressing
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa259/granova/DSC00164-1.jpg

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa259/granova/DSC00165-1.jpg

This thread need to be in Order, Mike please change it to

Denys Reitz - Offices - 24 floors - Sandton, Johannesburg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f119/Puleza/P1180574.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f119/Puleza/P1180575.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f119/Puleza/P1180576.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f119/Puleza/P1180602.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f119/Puleza/P1180599.jpg

Yes please change it Mike. This is going to be such a cool building when it's done, thanks for the photos Pule - they're AWESOME

[QUOTE=Pule;40827030]This thread need to be in Order, Mike please change it to

Denys Reitz - Offices - 24 floors - Sandton, Johannesburg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f119/Puleza/P1180574.jpg

QUOTE]

Pule how can it be 24 floors and only 22 500m2 over 2 builings, that makes each floor plate less the 500m2 and those floor plates are pretty average so id say they are around 1200m2 each ish

Where did the 24F come from?

These are indeed extremely cool buildings.

[QUOTE=Pule;40827030]This thread need to be in Order, Mike please change it to

Denys Reitz - Offices - 24 floors - Sandton, Johannesburg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f119/Puleza/P1180574.jpg

QUOTE]

Pule how can it be 24 floors and only 22 500m2 over 2 builings, that makes each floor plate less the 500m2 and those floor plates are pretty average so id say they are around 1200m2 each ish

Where did the 24F come from?

It has always been a 24 floor with 6 floors as underground parking, I mentioned that after I spoke to the Architect earlier this year.

Puls so its 24F twins ?

Puls so its 24F twins ?
Yebo baba.

awesome, are their new renders as the renders look short

Finally 20F plus builings going up

13/9/2009

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii158/mandana_sa/IMG_2477.jpg

Loving that shape!

Rising fast, thank Mandana.

therefore you mean it is 18F, not 24F...? I still struggle to see it being 18F, but will change it for now. Guys please try dig deeper to find confirmation. Also i really dont think Denys Reitz need that much space, so i wonder how much of thise development they will take up? one portion?

Yes, 18F. Denys Reitz taking up 2/3rds of space, with extra 8000m2 for rent.
I can fully believe it is 18F. Just part of Sandton densifying, thank you Gautrain and new urban development framework.

Again guys, it's 6 floors basement parking + 18 floors offices above the ground = 24 floors and that's exactly the info I got from Paragon Architects.

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii158/mandana_sa/IMG_2477.jpg

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa259/granova/DSC00165-1.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f119/Puleza/P1180576.jpg



The building behins is 14 floors high.

do you access this site from the road behind? the cul de sac? or from the main road next to ABSA Capital?

... from the main road next to ABSA Capital?
For there.

cool, pretty busy road that

Not quite DB, I guess it depens on time. I think there will actually be 2 entrances to the site.

Is BIIIG...
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa259/granova/DSC00796-1.jpg

It's Cooool! :)

I dont understand the lines of this building. The inside has tapered in already while the outside seems to be heading steadily More outside, if you know what I mean.. What's going on?

nope, sorry I dont follow, I know certain pic's do make things look like that because you can see right through because the scafolding hasnt reached that level as yet.

I dont understand the lines of this building. The inside has tapered in already while the outside seems to be heading steadily More outside, if you know what I mean.. What's going on?

I was thinking the same thing actually, but then I decided not to get all excited about it, since maybe they might add some other "non structural" elements later on which will make it all come together in the end.

I was thinking the same thing actually, but then I decided not to get all excited about it, since maybe they might add some other "non structural" elements later on which will make it all come together in the end.

I see what you saying.. Things are getting pretty close to the lift shaft tho. Will have to wait and see

dont know if these have been posted but here some more renders and description

http://www.zenprop.co.za/portfolio/images/spec_zoom_sandtont1.jpg

http://www.zenprop.co.za/portfolio/images/spec_zoom_sandtont3.jpg

http://www.zenprop.co.za/portfolio/images/spec_zoom_sandtont2.jpg


Project Specifications

Location: Alice Lane, Sandton.
Conveniently located across the road from Sandton City Shopping Centre & in close proximity to various hotels. The site is near the new Gautrain station as well as the new Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) system

Description: New commercial office building consisting of two towers of 16 stories above a 4 level super basement parkade. The building offers a unique architectural design using the latest materials, finishes & construction methods.

The two towers will be linked with bridges crossing over a central open atrium. The façades are made of distinctive faceted glazed sections which are intricate to the design; the building will offer incredible views of Sandton & surrounding areas.

Tenants: Deneys Reitz Attorneys.

GLA: 20 000m²

Date completed: Third Quarter 2010

Those are so very sexy...

nice building :okay:
the area around the gautrain station looks like its build up really nicely. just those those sandton tower upgrades left

The shape they were going in makes sense now. Donno if I'm a fan of the non-symmetry - yet.

They've started with the facade cladding. It is DAMN sexy

Taken last week thursday.

http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss302/P_Sy/P1200235.jpg

http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss302/P_Sy/P1200234.jpg

http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss302/P_Sy/P1200236.jpg

http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss302/P_Sy/P1200237.jpg

Jeez those Renders are hawt! thanks for the find Mike & great pics Pule!!!

Yeah !!! i like those curves.

No doubt this is the sexiest commercial building going up in SA at the moment

The cladding is spectacular!

The cladding is spectacular!

I agree! It is definitely the hottest thing I've seen in... well... forever!

I love love love Curvy Alice :)

the only thing is that the renders make the building look much bigger than it actually is.

the only thing is that the renders make the building look much bigger than it actually is.

Why do you say that? If you look at the renders and the people in relation to the buildings, I'd say it's pretty much correct... Besides, 16F is well.... just that. 16F.

^^ Yah I would agree. How many more floors do you think will be added DB?

I had a look at the render again, and at first I thought that the building could at least get another 7F added on to it, but in retrospect maybe only about another 3/4F, which would make it 16F. I assume that both towers would be the same height, so in total a ±30F office building. Not too bad.

I'm really impressed with this building. It's going to be incredible when it's done!

Like I said - law was a good choice. :D

Like I said - law was a good choice. :D

Howsit Mr Lawyer, I guess you been quite cause you were dealing with some serious criminal ish ;)

BTW that's 16 floors ABOVE the parking garage. So more like 20

Howsit Mr Lawyer, I guess you been quite cause you were dealing with some serious criminal ish ;)

Haha! If only.. :) No, I'm in my final year of law school now, so another month to go, THEN I'll start dealing with the serious criminals. ;)

I'm just glad the big firms are actually starting to go bigger with their offices. It's taken them years! I won't be working for Deneys Reitz (well, maybe later on ;)) but I'm really happy for the profession as a whole.

I have to say though... I can't see Deneys Reitz justifying the floorspace in this project. Not for just themselves. I mean, they aren't even in the big 5. Cliffe Dekker Hofmeyer on the other hand - biggest firm in Africa, and they're only building 12 floors, whereas Deneys Reitz only has about half as many employees as CDH. Anyway, just something I'm wondering about aloud. ;)

^^ What law school are you at? Ya I agree about Deney Reitz. I mean ENS in Cape Town have a sizeable building but they only use a portion of it....

Why do you say that? If you look at the renders and the people in relation to the buildings, I'd say it's pretty much correct... Besides, 16F is well.... just that. 16F.

^^ Yah I would agree. How many more floors do you think will be added DB?
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not height wise, just basic size, guess the start of the cladding is misleading me, the pattern seems abit big in real compared to the render.

^^ What law school are you at? Ya I agree about Deney Reitz. I mean ENS in Cape Town have a sizeable building but they only use a portion of it....

I'm at the University of Pretoria. Five years of studies, and two degrees, but it was certainly worth it. ;)

Would definitely make sense for ENS to only occupy a portion of that building in Cape Town, considering that they have offices in Sandton, Durban and Stellenbosch. I would love to see them get a nice tower in Sandton though. They're going to look so bland next to the others...

Is anybody else on here actually in the legal profession? I've never asked, so figure I'll do so now. :D

I'm in constitutional law research... looking to do articles next year. terribly excited about the prospect.

I'm in constitutional law research... looking to do articles next year. terribly excited about the prospect.

Where are you doing your research? And about what exactly, if I may ask? :) I recently finished my final year research project - medical negligence in elective plastic surgery.

Hmm... I think I hi-jacked this thread a bit.. :D My apologies.

I'm currently studying law at the University of Cape Town :) What are your plans for next year?

My mom would have liked your research project. She was a doctor before becoming a lawyer.

I'm really chuffed for you guys... Now let's get back to the buildings... please... ;-)

I'm currently studying law at the University of Cape Town :) What are your plans for next year?

My mom would have liked your research project. She was a doctor before becoming a lawyer.

Wow, a doctor before becoming a lawyer? Unconventional switch of professions.. :) As long as you enjoy what you do though, that's all that matter!

At the moment, I'm hoping to do a pupilship at the High Court Chambers of the Pretoria Bar next year, but I'll only know if I've been admitted by middle November. Otherwise, I'm waiting to hear back from ENS about doing my articles at their Sandton office. I've always wanted to go into pure litigation though, so we'll see what happens.

What are your plans? Which year are you now?


I'm really chuffed for you guys... Now let's get back to the buildings... please... ;-)

:D Sorry man.. We don't exactly have a thread to talk about legal stuff yet. :P But, I'll say something about the building just to keep the post semi-relevant!

I've been looking at the render of the central atrium - those bridges crossing between the two buildings? I'm no engineer, so I don't know much about this, but, how on earth will they stay intact? That white section sticking out of the one side looks quite heavy, especially considering that it carries the weight of three bridges. It just doesn't seem realistic. But like I said, I'm no engineer. :) Could someone please explain to me how that actually works?

Wow, a doctor before becoming a lawyer? Unconventional switch of professions.. :) As long as you enjoy what you do though, that's all that matter!

At the moment, I'm hoping to do a pupilship at the High Court Chambers of the Pretoria Bar next year, but I'll only know if I've been admitted by middle November. Otherwise, I'm waiting to hear back from ENS about doing my articles at their Sandton office. I've always wanted to go into pure litigation though, so we'll see what happens.

What are your plans? Which year are you now?




:D Sorry man.. We don't exactly have a thread to talk about legal stuff yet. :P But, I'll say something about the building just to keep the post semi-relevant!

I've been looking at the render of the central atrium - those bridges crossing between the two buildings? I'm no engineer, so I don't know much about this, but, how on earth will they stay intact? That white section sticking out of the one side looks quite heavy, especially considering that it carries the weight of three bridges. It just doesn't seem realistic. But like I said, I'm no engineer. :) Could someone please explain to me how that actually works?


Wow going straight into pupilage, that takes guts! Actually I'm really hoping of getting into ENS when I graduate. It's right now my top firm, and its becuase of their building in CT.. although it help :) I took a gap, so I'm only finishing my first year now, but its passing so fast so I should start planning already. Well hope everything works out for you man! Litigation takes balls, but its fun :) Did a few mock trials and its reli rewarding! My mom is an advocate, but she is deciding join a firm with a friend next year and see how she can use her skills in competition law (her masters) and medicine to pioneer new frontiers :) Dont think ill be able to live up to that tho lol

This will be very sexy indeed. Might not be the tallest towers, but they are up to at least 14 floors now.

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa259/granova/DSC01161.jpg

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa259/granova/DSC01162.jpg

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa259/granova/DSC01194.jpg

Wow going straight into pupilage, that takes guts! Actually I'm really hoping of getting into ENS when I graduate. It's right now my top firm, and its becuase of their building in CT.. although it help :) I took a gap, so I'm only finishing my first year now, but its passing so fast so I should start planning already. Well hope everything works out for you man! Litigation takes balls, but its fun :) Did a few mock trials and its reli rewarding! My mom is an advocate, but she is deciding join a firm with a friend next year and see how she can use her skills in competition law (her masters) and medicine to pioneer new frontiers :) Dont think ill be able to live up to that tho lol

:) I just never even considered going the articles route actually... I've always wanted to do litigation, so I want to get there as quickly as possible.

I would definitely recommend ENS, not just because of their building. ;) But make sure you apply for vac work first! At ENS, and at the other big firms, preferably in your second year already. And keep on doing the mock trials.. Webber Wentzel especially loves the people who did moot court. Bro, you're on your way to to being a lawyer, so don't think you can't live up to your mom. ;) Being a lawyer kinda is winning in itself, so. :D Might have to get in touch with your mom sometime though, since I'm very interested in medicine litigation myself! ;)

Jakes, cool shots man! These buildings are going to make a serious impact on the skyline, even though they're not that tall. Can't wait to see them with the glazing done, in the sunshine.. ;) It's going to be gorgeous!

^^Stop winking so much, just now he'll get the wrong idea ......... ;)

^^Stop winking so much, just now he'll get the wrong idea ......... ;)

Hahaha.. Yeah, it's an unfortunate habit I picked up from growing up with MSN, ICQ etc. I apologize! ;);););););)

But seriously, could someone please explain those bridges to me, as I asked above? I would really like to know.

http://www.zenprop.co.za/portfolio/images/spec_zoom_sandtont3.jpg

you talking about these Rib? They're probably pre-stressed concrete slabs or prefab steel bridges.

If you think it is going to be like moot court or law school you are sorely mistaken!!!!

Basically you will be doing all the crap that nobody else wants to do for the first few years of your legal career. And proof reading or collating signature pages or bundling at 2am aint much fun buddy!!!

Durby, yes I'm talking about those. If they're steel, it makes more sense, but in my mind concrete would just be too heavy. Then again, what do I know about engineering? ;)

If you think it is going to be like moot court or law school you are sorely mistaken!!!!

Basically you will be doing all the crap that nobody else wants to do for the first few years of your legal career. And proof reading or collating signature pages or bundling at 2am aint much fun buddy!!!

Nobody said it was going to be like moot court or law school. But certain firms prefer a certain kind of student (i.e. Webber Wentzel who prefers to offer contracts to the top mooters, since it fits in with their culture). Anybody who thinks being a lawyer is anything like moot court or law school is, quite frankly, an idiot.

As for the statement that an article clerk basically does all the crap nobody else wants to? I'm not sure if you're in the legal field, but if you are, where on earth did you work?? Because that is definitely not the case at a firm such as ENS. Maybe at a small, two partner firm, but definitely not at a big 5 firm. Either way, I'm joining the bar, so I'm going an altogether different route.

Anyway, I think we've gone on about the legal stuff for quite long enough now, and should get the focus of this thread back to the buildings. :)

^^ Jeeeeslike... can you guys just exchange numbers already...!!

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii158/mandana_sa/IMG_2836.jpg

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii158/mandana_sa/IMG_2837.jpg

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii158/mandana_sa/IMG_2840.jpg

^^pics are mine

^^ sheeez that is going to be one hot building when finished! Thanks for the pics Mandana. They're great!

Seems this one has passed the 20+ Fl mark.
I remember Pule saying this would be 24 Fl which will make it one of the heighest in Sandton at the moment.

Seems this one has passed the 20+ Fl mark.
I remember Pule saying this would be 24 Fl which will make it one of the heighest in Sandton at the moment.

6 of the 24 floors forms the basement parking.

6 of the 24 floors forms the basement parking.

Hey Pule, but arent these 6 fls (basement) above ground as seen in the pics, + whats left to go might just reach that count

^^ I'm not sure Marco, this is one is confusing me. I think we should wait and see.

:gaah: I was right there & didnt see these guys!!! oh well back in Dec!

Finally!!! A modernist project for Sandton instead of faux-historical stuff and mediocre contemporary stuff.

This is a nice modernist piece-- and I love the glass. Sexy indeed :cheers:

Hey Pule, but arent these 6 fls (basement) above ground as seen in the pics, + whats left to go might just reach that count

I think it's 3 floors left to reach the count, as they currently work on 15th floors on the left hand side tower.

http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss302/P_Sy/P1200889.jpg

http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss302/P_Sy/P1200891.jpg

http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss302/P_Sy/P1200884.jpg

http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss302/P_Sy/P1200893.jpg

http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss302/P_Sy/P1200898.jpg

http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss302/P_Sy/P1200900.jpg

http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss302/P_Sy/P1200903.jpg

http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss302/P_Sy/P1200904.jpg

http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss302/P_Sy/P1200906.jpg

http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss302/P_Sy/P1200908.jpg

http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss302/P_Sy/P1200910.jpg

http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss302/P_Sy/P1200913.jpg

Thanks for the pics pule, one again very nice. Green park tower is also starting to attract me and might be quite spectacular!!!
No doubt that Sandtons skyline will have in the near future some impressive buildings

this one is already above 16F. I count 17 from the ground up (on the left). It will probably then top out at 18.

They are looking great!

First post in a while but thought it was worth adding.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2544/4124541607_c72f51769b_b.jpg

Does anybody know what the shorter of the 3 cranes is for?

All compliments to the guy who took it.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/karmor/4124541607/

look great! i liked this project a lot! congradulations sandton!

The glass on this project is sooo sexy.

I love this shot, Pule!

http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss302/P_Sy/P1200913.jpg

;)

All I can say is WOW! :cheers:

The glass on this project is sooo sexy.

I love this shot, Pule!

http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss302/P_Sy/P1200913.jpg

Saw this one from the distance and it has almost topped.

wow, Ive really missed out. The progress is amazing. Stunning towers. Honestly didnt think it would become a reality

^^ Speaking of which... hows this one going? Surely the cladding should be reaching the top of the building? Did u see any visible progress Pule?

^^ it's almost halfway on one tower.

Cladding seems to have stopped on the outside of the building, more work going on on the inside. Also lots of green mesh going around everything

Is it making an impact on the Sandton skyline?

Is it making an impact on the Sandton skyline?

Depends where you are viewing it from... If you're viewing from the East, then not at all, as you cannot see them. If you're viewing from the West, then it makes a HUGE impact.

I thought I would just clarify the number of floors of this development, which has sparked quite a bit of debate. So, I consulted Zenprops website and here are the specifications:
Project Specifications

Location: Alice Lane, Sandton.
Conveniently located across the road from Sandton City Shopping Centre & in close proximity to various hotels. The site is near the new Gautrain station as well as the new Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) system
Description: New commercial office building consisting of two towers of 16 stories above a 4 level super basement parkade. The building offers a unique architectural design using the latest materials, finishes & construction methods.
The two towers will be linked with bridges crossing over a central open atrium. The façades are made of distinctive faceted glazed sections which are intricate to the design; the building will offer incredible views of Sandton & surrounding areas.
Tenants: Deneys Reitz Attorneys.
GLA: 20 000m²
Date completed: Third Quarter 2010
Seen as the 4 level basement is above ground, I think we should change the number of floors of this development, thats if, everyone agrees?!:)

^^ there's currently 6 floors of basement parking as photos I have posted here before. I thin the journalist mistyped.

^^ there's currently 6 floors of basement parking as photos I have posted here before. I thin the journalist mistyped.

Well then we have 22Fl, correct? Shouldnt we change the threads floor count?

Sandton Towers development reaches roof height

By: Creamer Media Reporter
11th January 2010

The construction of the 20 000-m2 Sandton Towers office development, which would be completed by October, has reached roof height, with commercial property services group Broll Property reporting that the building is iconic in design, as well as in its environmental principles.

The building, which is a joint development between property developers Zenprop and Tiber, would provide six levels of parking and 16 storeys of office space, of which the top six floors would be made available to a corporate tenant.

It consists of two sculpted towers linked by a vertical atrium, with double-glazed black, white and grey glass panels that clip together and protect against external heat, cold and noise.

This made the building, which is situated near Sandton City, more energy efficient, as the panels created substantial savings for the air-conditioning and heating requirements of the building, Broll Property reported.

Broll Gauteng Commercial director Fran Teagle said that careful thought had been given to every element of the building, from its location to the building’s energy footprint.

“Material selections, the placement of the building itself, and attention to detail have been used to achieve the best possible energy performance for a high-rise commercial property,” she commented.

Broll noted that law firm Deneys Reitz had already signed up to take up two-thirds of the space in the building once it was completed.

http://us-cdn.creamermedia.co.za/assets/articles/images/resized/85098_resized_sandtontowers.jpg

^^No doubt, this is the sexiest development in SA at the moment!!
And now we have confirmation, its 22Fls:banana:
Does anybody know the possible height of these twin towers?

I still can't get over the sexiness.

http://www.burnstudio.co.za/publicimages/paragon1small.jpg

that is seriously an amazing pic!

very awesome photo, people from Sandton are raving about this building. So glad Deny Reitz gave the go ahead for this bold design, pitty that some of the common folk of Sandton think its part of ABSA Capital.... :bash:

the surrounding shouts $$$:crazy: And that building is awesome!

good to see henning's baby is coming along nicely

Oh wow, missed that photo. It's amazing.

SO in love with this development!

Facade up close
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa259/granova/Santon%20Feb%2009/P2190235.jpg

Think we underestimated the size. And I counted about 22 floors.
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa259/granova/Santon%20Feb%2009/P2190234.jpg

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa259/granova/Santon%20Feb%2009/P2190232.jpg

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa259/granova/Santon%20Feb%2009/P2190229.jpg

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa259/granova/Santon%20Feb%2009/P2190224.jpg

some random shots
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa259/granova/Santon%20Feb%2009/P2190236.jpg

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa259/granova/Santon%20Feb%2009/P2190221.jpg

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa259/granova/Santon%20Feb%2009/P2190237.jpg

The sides will also look spectacular, especially at night
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa259/granova/Santon%20Feb%2009/P2190233.jpg

The internal bridges connecting the two towers
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa259/granova/Santon%20Feb%2009/P2190223.jpg

Corner of Sandton Drive and Alice Lane
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa259/granova/Santon%20Feb%2009/P2190238.jpg

It's only one of the, if not the sexiest building under construction in SA at the moment.

I hope other other developer get envious and start building more spectacular building:banana:

It's only one of the, if not the sexiest building under construction in SA at the moment.

I have to agree with you Lydon.

The design makes it look a bit tiny, but its huge. this is an awesome development.

Stunning, thanks for the pic's Jakes!

I simply LOVE it when something turns out to look exactly like the renders did!! :banana:

http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b443/goliath01/DSC02927.jpg
http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b443/goliath01/DSC02945.jpg
What a winner!!

Taken this afternoon.

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x22/monkfish07/CIMG22861600x1200.jpg

wow! what scale that building has! great photos, thanks

Nice pics Percy, I forgot to post the following.

http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/3153205/640/3153205.jpg

http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/3153206/640/3153206.jpg

Amazing photo Pule!

wow..that's pretty hot!

Thanks Percy and Pule! its freeken huge!

Guys (specifically, Percy07, Jakes1 and Pule), I have used some of your images here on my blog
http://urbanjoburg.blogspot.com/2010/03/sexy-curvy-alice.html

Please let me know if you don't want me to use them, and want them credited a certain way etc. Thanks :)

I don't have a problem at all Tom.

^^

Same here, nice article Tom. :)

http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/3442627/640/3442627.jpg

Alice and her fine ass!!

ouch. i love this one.

http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b443/goliath01/Picture10.jpg
Another render from paragons website
Hows Alice?:)

I was at Sandton City briefly today. I didnt have my camera on me so I took this with my blackberry. (Apologies for the quality - Ill try get a proper shot one of these days).

She's looking so curvy!

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x22/monkfish07/IMG00135-20100720-13101024x768.jpg

This was 4 months ago:

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x22/monkfish07/CIMG22861024x768.jpg

Boom! That is one sexy building. Someone feel like posting it on the international forums?

Wow, nice one guys!

holy moly

paragon is an awesome office the architect sees to be the most ground breaking for commercial buildings in sa
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1177303
and there awesome

http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx289/capitol_1/Menlyn%20Corporate%20Park/Photo0086.jpg
project in pretoria credit goes to capitol 4 the pic
http://www.paragon.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Sandton-Corporate-Campus-4.jpg
http://www.paragon.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Armidillo-1.jpg

ps admin plz change this to 22f instead of 16f

^^

Whoah awesome! What is the last one for, and where is it? :)

Oh nevermind, read their website - Its a call centre (No info as to where though).

http://www.paragon.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Armidillo-1.jpg


This was a proposal foe Call Centre but it never went through because of recession. The development was called Armadillo.

oh and it was in milpark/braamfontein werf near the egoli gas

The development was called Armadillo.

A little annoying that it's not entirely original. The name, I mean; the design itself is fairly.

Google "The Armadillo Glasgow" (http://www.google.co.za/images?hl=en&q=the%20armadillo%20glasgow&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi)

In fact, they appear to have combined two landmarks in Glasgow, come to think of it.

Google "Imax Glasgow" (http://www.google.co.za/images?um=1&hl=en&tbs=isch:1&sa=1&q=imax+glasgow&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=)

driving past this beauty all of last week had me thoroughly impressed with it! truely a fantastic building that hopely shines the light going forward for other developments in Sandton

Taken this evening:
(Experimenting with HDR)

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x22/monkfish07/SandtonTowers1.jpg

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x22/monkfish07/SandtonTowers2.jpg

*drool*

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=60907165#post60907165

Seriously, thats sexy. When do they clear off site?

I've seen a section diagram of this building now, but it did not mention the height.
There should be a roof garden on the 12th floor though, but I don't know if they have actually included it.

this is seriusly beautiful. i like it.

http://www.paragon.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/15-alice-low-res-20.jpg
http://www.paragon.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/15-alice-low-res-13.jpg
http://www.paragon.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/15-alice-low-res-16.jpg
http://www.paragon.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/15-alice-low-res-24.jpg

Paragon Architects (http://www.paragon.co.za/work/15-alice-lane-towers.html)

Fu-king A

Best building in SA hands down

Houston, we have wood.

Saw an ad in the Business Times by Denys using your photo percy07... Just thought you should know!

From what I understand, Photobucket's Terms & Conditions of use cede all my rights to the image anyway. :tongue2:

Taken yesterday - she's practically finished now.

Poor quality blackberry shots.

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x22/monkfish07/SandtonTowersOct1024x768.jpg

You can just see the roof garden I mentioned:

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x22/monkfish07/IMG00013-20101014-1237.jpg

There is a waterfall feature cascading past the entrance stairway.

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x22/monkfish07/IMG00014-20101014-1237.jpg

Photographs: Andrew Bell
http://www.entitled.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/15-Alice_Andrew-Bell-2.jpg
http://www.entitled.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/15-Alice_Andrew-Bell-3.jpg
http://www.entitled.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/15-Alice_Andrew-Bell-1.jpg
http://www.entitled.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/15-Alice_Andrew-Bell-4.jpg

This is a SWEET building :)

Great pics T! Will someone please call the airforce too bomb that white monstruosity too hell with the three caps! Thanks

PANTS down the best building in the country right now...

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5052/5468079005_7d6aae5bbb_z.jpg
By markstravelphotos (http://www.flickr.com/photos/markstravelphotos/)

shweeett...

http://www.paragon.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/15-ALICE-00.jpg

http://www.paragon.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/15-ALICE-1.jpg

http://www.paragon.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/15-ALICE-9.jpg

http://www.paragon.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/15-ALICE-3.jpg

http://www.paragon.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/15-ALICE-2.jpg

Source: http://www.paragon.co.za/work/15-alice-lane-towers-sandton.html

These twins should have appeared on the cover of Playboy SA....

Looks just like the renders.. they're a beauty

whats the height of the building ?