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RafflesCity September 15th, 2003, 01:39 AM 212m/695ft
52 floors
completed in 1973
designed by Ludwig Mies van der Rohe/ C.F. Murphy Associates
This is Mies’ last American building and his largest, faced with dark aluminum and bronze-tinted glass. It is sited to capture lake views; the entry plaza also has a gracious presence. The plaza is a great place to approach the "corncob towers" of Marina City, a strange and beloved Chicago landmark.
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New Jack City September 15th, 2003, 03:00 AM 8/10...I like the all black color and the facade looks so clean. The base is unique for a box, but it's not as good as the Seagram Building.
Wu-Gambino September 15th, 2003, 05:21 AM 8/10
Very elegant. I love the slim side of the tower the most. The black is a very attractive color for the building. The base is also nice.
AtlanticaC5 September 15th, 2003, 05:31 PM 7/10
Looks like Seagram Building.
SteelCity32 September 15th, 2003, 10:19 PM ugly box, 5.5/10
RafflesCity September 15th, 2003, 11:37 PM 6.5/10
Plain and simple black slab.
Building_lover September 17th, 2003, 06:04 AM it's a box and u see it everywhere these days i rate it a 4:)
The Messiah September 17th, 2003, 08:04 PM Looks nice,nothing special though.
6.0/10
BGT September 18th, 2003, 03:25 AM 8/10
huaiwei September 19th, 2003, 01:39 PM 7/10.
Labrador September 20th, 2003, 12:16 PM 4/10
It's just a common box. It's tall, and the colour could be worse, but this building is still far from inspiring.
De Snor September 24th, 2003, 10:30 PM to be in the shade of TTC in the future ...
Chi-town September 27th, 2003, 03:55 AM Awesome modernist building... my 3rd favorite Mies building after Seagram and 860-880 N. Lake Shore.
Originally posted by Labrador
4/10
It's just a common box. It's tall, and the colour could be worse, but this building is still far from inspiring.
See, it's not a common box at all. That's the point. It's an extremely elegant, well-finished, well-proportioned box.
airsickpenthousedweller October 2nd, 2003, 11:38 AM Originally posted by Chi-town
Awesome modernist building... my 3rd favorite Mies building after Seagram and 860-880 N. Lake Shore.
See, it's not a common box at all. That's the point. It's an extremely elegant, well-finished, well-proportioned box.
This is indeed very well proportioned, detailed elegance.....
I guess that if seen in real, it's even more impressive.
10/10
renell October 2nd, 2003, 04:29 PM 7/10
Javier October 2nd, 2003, 05:48 PM Looks like the seagram bldg.
i fact is almost the same, obviously designd by Mies Van Der Rohe
8/10
Eduardo Lopez October 2nd, 2003, 06:19 PM Is better alive, one good box.
8/10
Kommentare October 5th, 2003, 11:06 PM 4.5/10 :)
Ashram October 10th, 2003, 06:33 AM It's an elegant box, with a great shape IMO. 9/10
Imperfect Ending October 29th, 2003, 08:31 AM 6
I like the color and shape. but not really.
Fabio November 8th, 2003, 07:53 PM 7.5/10
elegant box
trussedtube November 18th, 2003, 06:02 PM I am so sick of people just throwing up default answers like "ugly box," or "just a common box," or "nothing special," or "see it everywhere."
This is not just any box. It's a superbly executed box by Mies, the master of boxmaking: the proportions, the preciseness of the curtain wall, the pallette -- all of that work towards the sheer, severe elegance of this building.
Sure, this isn't as good as Seagram nor as groundbreaking as 860-880 LSD -- and I'm no architectural expert -- but dismissing this as just another box is simply ignorance. If you can't get excited about these pictures, and how something can be so dramatic within the constraints of a box, you really need to spend some time refining your tastes -- as this is not just a matter of subjectivity:
http://www.hampel.net.au/gallery/data/38/1111_1175s-med.jpg http://www.galinsky.com/buildings/ibmchicago/ibm1.jpg
There are plenty of boxes to hate in this world. This is not one of them. The fact that so many people on a forum for skyscraper enthusiasts can't distinguish between them makes me wonder if this forum is just a waste of time -- as in "nothing special," and "see it everywhere" on the web.
You know, it doesn't take an architecture degree to be a little informed and make somewhat meaningful, well-written posts.
SeeMacau November 21st, 2003, 02:52 AM Nice looking, but nothing special about it
I like this kind of whole black colour building
8/10
alex3000 November 24th, 2003, 04:29 AM 7/10
Sniper December 11th, 2003, 01:01 AM 7/10. Just for the height.
Chad December 11th, 2003, 11:21 AM This agressively beautiful black-beauty is one of the most fare-well attraction in Chicago. Standing tall representing the most prestigious-period of the 70's architecture-era. The overal facade and shape are just phenominon. It's the truely-pitch-Perfect to be The "Marina city' twins" 's Partner.............8.5/10
airsickpenthousedweller December 11th, 2003, 01:37 PM In my coverage of the entire ROT 1 to 300, this is the only 10/10 !!
de flatneuroot December 11th, 2003, 02:19 PM less is more 10/10
Jasonhouse December 11th, 2003, 07:09 PM Almost as good as the Seagram. People definitely notice it in its location. It will take a big hit when Trump's building is built.
8.5/10
MCC December 12th, 2003, 09:52 PM 8/10 I love this building!
james2390 December 13th, 2003, 11:24 PM its ok...7
TYW December 16th, 2003, 03:23 PM nice shiny box 7.5/10
Wisma December 19th, 2003, 09:12 PM 5.5
I don't like this Wall at all. It's also too Boxy to me.
RafflesCity February 7th, 2004, 12:20 AM http://www.chicagoarchitecture.info/Images/NearNorthSide/IBMBuilding-002.jpg
http://www.chicagoarchitecture.info/Images/NearNorthSide/IBMBuilding-003.jpg
Devilution March 24th, 2004, 12:45 PM Such a huge monolith! I´ll give it an 8
DamienK March 25th, 2004, 05:32 PM 6.5/10
Necker March 25th, 2004, 07:21 PM 8
Wu-Gambino April 3rd, 2004, 12:53 AM This is indeed very well proportioned, detailed elegance.....
I guess that if seen in real, it's even more impressive.
10/10
Yes, it is flat out beautiful at night when viewed from the Hancock Observatory.
http://images.fotopic.net/?id=2332966&outx=600&noresize=1&nostamp=1
(to the left of Marina Cities and in front of the Uniturn Building).
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skyperu34 May 12th, 2004, 08:59 PM boxy...........6
mhe-ann May 13th, 2004, 06:45 AM 5/10..boxy..
Jase Calvin May 13th, 2004, 06:32 PM Utilitarian box and Seagramesque - but good.
6/10
Trances May 13th, 2004, 10:52 PM Nice hard and dark
but still box
5
Mr.Skyscraper July 4th, 2004, 01:59 AM 10/10
Its tall, wide and the color is great...what else can any one ask for?
:wallbash:
rayman July 4th, 2004, 09:56 AM 4.5 a boring black box
7 World Trade July 15th, 2004, 10:04 PM it's got seagram's facade and the xyz buildings' shape. could do better, esp for a chicago building. it looks like a nyc skyscraper that somehow landed in the middle of chicago.
6
Winus July 21st, 2004, 07:40 PM Tough powerful building. 9.0
Jules July 30th, 2004, 05:58 PM One of my favorite boxes. 9.
TPX September 11th, 2004, 05:21 PM 10/10
simply the most elegant skyscraper in the city, i cant get enough of it. i walk by it all the time, and yet i always have to take a moment to stare at it. it is so well proportioned, so professional, its everything a modern skyscraper should be. and at night, it doesnt have the cheezy neon lighting, its just the lights left on by workers. now thats class.
TPX September 11th, 2004, 05:24 PM I am so sick of people just throwing up default answers like "ugly box," or "just a common box," or "nothing special," or "see it everywhere."
This is not just any box. It's a superbly executed box by Mies, the master of boxmaking: the proportions, the preciseness of the curtain wall, the pallette -- all of that work towards the sheer, severe elegance of this building.
Sure, this isn't as good as Seagram nor as groundbreaking as 860-880 LSD -- and I'm no architectural expert -- but dismissing this as just another box is simply ignorance. If you can't get excited about these pictures, and how something can be so dramatic within the constraints of a box, you really need to spend some time refining your tastes -- as this is not just a matter of subjectivity:
http://www.hampel.net.au/gallery/data/38/1111_1175s-med.jpg http://www.galinsky.com/buildings/ibmchicago/ibm1.jpg
There are plenty of boxes to hate in this world. This is not one of them. The fact that so many people on a forum for skyscraper enthusiasts can't distinguish between them makes me wonder if this forum is just a waste of time -- as in "nothing special," and "see it everywhere" on the web.
You know, it doesn't take an architecture degree to be a little informed and make somewhat meaningful, well-written posts.
beautiful post, it blows my mind how people can be some amazed by a cheezy postmodern tower is hong kong, but when a true skyscraper comes up they bash it and call it ugly.
Imperial September 15th, 2004, 07:20 PM 7/10
therock September 18th, 2004, 02:31 PM 8/10
ChgoLvr83 September 22nd, 2004, 11:57 AM I am so sick of people just throwing up default answers like "ugly box," or "just a common box," or "nothing special," or "see it everywhere."
This is not just any box. It's a superbly executed box by Mies, the master of boxmaking: the proportions, the preciseness of the curtain wall, the pallette -- all of that work towards the sheer, severe elegance of this building.
Sure, this isn't as good as Seagram nor as groundbreaking as 860-880 LSD -- and I'm no architectural expert -- but dismissing this as just another box is simply ignorance. If you can't get excited about these pictures, and how something can be so dramatic within the constraints of a box, you really need to spend some time refining your tastes -- as this is not just a matter of subjectivity:
http://www.hampel.net.au/gallery/data/38/1111_1175s-med.jpg http://www.galinsky.com/buildings/ibmchicago/ibm1.jpg
There are plenty of boxes to hate in this world. This is not one of them. The fact that so many people on a forum for skyscraper enthusiasts can't distinguish between them makes me wonder if this forum is just a waste of time -- as in "nothing special," and "see it everywhere" on the web.
You know, it doesn't take an architecture degree to be a little informed and make somewhat meaningful, well-written posts.
I couldn't have said it better. I swear because its exactly the way I feel. (On both the building and many of the posts I see on here)
I think IBM is a great example of "less is more". There's subtle boldness to it (if that makes sense) that can be learned and should be appreciated into future buildings and skyscrapers. Everything doesn't have to be flashy or gaudy or have colorful lighting all over it to be beautiful. IBM is a classic. Enough said.
LibertyTwo September 26th, 2004, 02:49 PM I think the above post is the most well-written pro-'box' argument on here...it sickens me as well that folks can call things like AlFaisaliah Center, or Kingdom Centre "amazing" yet look at IBM and bash it to shreads...this is one of my favourite towers in Chicago and looks amazing next to Marina Place...sure you can have an opinion on the architectural design and if you "like" it or not, but have the common sense to see the building for what it is ...
I think there is a lot of American-box hatred on here...if you look at the top100 pool, thje Cheung Center in HongKong is praised as an amazing wonder...yet the Aon Center or WTC was derrided as "just another box." Self-hating american boxes ;-)~ lol
We need to start a "box" alliance to educate folks
oh yeah!
8/10
TPX September 28th, 2004, 02:13 AM ^ 100% agreed, anything designed by Pelli is a Godsend, while anything designed by van der Rohe is treated as a bland piece of shit.
empersouf October 1st, 2004, 08:31 PM 8.0
Looks like Chicago is crowded with black buildings.
Zuelas October 7th, 2004, 12:35 AM 7
Ordinary but attractive..... good location
Orfeo October 7th, 2004, 05:23 AM It's a box, but not bad....
7/10
jimm October 15th, 2004, 10:43 AM 8/10
SChristopher October 22nd, 2004, 02:45 AM Ehhh I like it but its generic...7
Monkey November 14th, 2004, 04:14 AM Looks like a taller version of St Helens in London.
I like the international style, the clean facade, and its sleek appearance.
And I agree with the "pro-box" comments above.
8.5
David3820 November 14th, 2004, 05:36 AM hmmmm, I don't like it!! Maybe because it's too fat and doesn't soar high enough for it's plain ugly boxiness?? I like it's colour though but other than that I really don't like this building. 4/10
andysimo123 November 25th, 2004, 10:29 PM 6/10
MattSal March 31st, 2005, 05:08 AM A black box, but a good black box at that. I give it a 7/10.
Medo April 9th, 2005, 03:52 PM dark box, good, effort, 7
Latoso May 28th, 2005, 09:55 AM 10/10 Mies. Less is more!
Phobos May 29th, 2005, 12:10 AM 8/10
Quality design and facade as well.
FJP May 29th, 2005, 12:10 AM It has enormous presence :eek: 8.5/10
Christerdom May 29th, 2005, 09:53 AM hahaha looks like our AS400 box in the computer lab :laugh:
5/10
Reflex May 29th, 2005, 11:05 PM 7\10.
Henk May 30th, 2005, 01:15 PM one big brown box. I don't like it. 5/10.
Smileyface May 30th, 2005, 04:04 PM 6/10
Azn_chi_boi May 30th, 2005, 04:11 PM 7- black and a box with an interesting bottom
SoboleuS August 17th, 2005, 11:34 AM Classic box :cool: 8/10
El_Greco August 17th, 2005, 08:57 PM 7/10
1984 D.F. September 5th, 2005, 06:12 AM 6/10
jesarm September 14th, 2005, 03:16 AM boring box 6/10
www.sercan.de November 4th, 2005, 08:05 PM 7/10
Blue_Sky November 4th, 2005, 09:02 PM 7/10
ChiLooper November 5th, 2005, 02:19 AM 10/10 Love it.......
Mosaic November 5th, 2005, 05:34 PM Chicagostyle indeed. 7/10
Sinjin P. November 24th, 2005, 12:03 PM elegant. 7.5/10
forvine December 6th, 2005, 04:46 AM 6/10
Principes December 6th, 2005, 04:46 AM Old me no like, 6/10
Scruffy88 January 3rd, 2006, 04:20 AM Of all boxes, this has one of the cleanest, neatest looks. the windows match perfectly to the dark paneling. good height over the river. this is a great building. 9/10
Alboboy11 January 3rd, 2006, 04:23 AM rip off the seagrem building lol
http://www.ou.edu/class/arch4443/50's%20Minimalism/Seagram%20Building.jpg
Scruffy88 January 4th, 2006, 01:09 AM It totally rips off the seagram but improves on it. they are virtually identical except for height which IBM improves on. But the setting for IBM is better, along the chicago river, very scenic, and there aren't taller buildings surrounding it to dwarf it. Until Trump finishes his new one that is.
SactoSpam January 26th, 2006, 03:15 AM 8.5/10
LordMarshall January 27th, 2006, 12:06 AM 8/10
spyguy January 27th, 2006, 12:12 AM rip off the seagrem building lol
Well every International style box is. At least this one was actually done by Mies.
Chicago Shawn January 27th, 2006, 01:22 AM ^so was Seagrem. IBM, IMO is Mies's finest work. Very tall and beautifly porportioned, right down to the placement of interoir lights. Very clean lines, both inside and out provide elegance that is hard to achieve in so amny other buildings that so many amiture forumers gloat over. A perfect 10/10. Anyone who rates this less than 6 while calling it a stupid box needs to pick up and read a book on architectural history.
CborG March 2nd, 2006, 02:24 AM 6.5/10
skipperBill March 11th, 2006, 02:18 AM 8/10.
LANative March 15th, 2006, 04:09 AM 7/10.
danthediscoman March 21st, 2006, 05:57 AM Everyone rating below a 7 has a total disregard for architectual history. Shame on you! Mies shaped what skyscrapers are today...give him some credit for being one of the main forefathers of modern architecural high rises... :ohno:
poisonous_ivy March 28th, 2006, 07:59 PM ...3/10
mr_storms April 8th, 2006, 06:32 PM 7/10
dżimi pejdż April 12th, 2006, 06:51 PM I like black skyscrapers 9/10
clarky April 14th, 2006, 10:52 PM 7/10
NEWWORLD April 15th, 2006, 05:33 AM 8/10
marpa April 17th, 2006, 10:36 PM 7/10
Skyman May 7th, 2006, 05:25 PM 7/10
LAYZIEDOGG May 22nd, 2006, 05:18 PM 6/10 too many of this kind of buildings in the world
anakin June 15th, 2006, 10:43 AM 7/10
ZZ-II June 15th, 2006, 03:54 PM elegant facade, but only a box....8/10
Mosaic July 6th, 2006, 07:51 AM 6/10 too dark.
Marcanadian July 7th, 2006, 02:44 AM The architect always does the same building....but I like them.
8.5/10
MRichR July 9th, 2006, 09:40 PM 10/10. It may look today like "an ordinary big box" to some, but that's mostly because the other's copied Mies' style (or attempted to, with many bad results). You can't say you hate this building, then turn around and adore buildings such as the Sears Tower or Hancock Building. They are from the same lineage, only this one is more perfect. My second favorite Mies building, first being Crown Hall (lit up at night).
sharpie20 July 13th, 2006, 01:56 AM 7/10 It is like an ominous BEAST!
gutooo July 16th, 2006, 11:22 PM 8/10
_zner_ November 5th, 2006, 08:00 AM 7.5 too plain though.
Chinky Orz November 19th, 2006, 06:21 PM 5/10 box.
snail456 November 22nd, 2006, 09:00 PM a big black box
4/10
weirdo November 27th, 2006, 06:08 PM ccool. love it black. 8/10
Dreamlıneя December 17th, 2006, 03:20 PM 5/10
artech21 December 24th, 2006, 01:07 PM 6 / 10
a dark chocolate bar? not great but no major screw ups either. so ...
vincent young December 30th, 2006, 12:24 PM 7/10
Piotr-Stettin January 27th, 2007, 02:00 AM 6,5/10 classic
Top Gear February 7th, 2007, 05:09 AM 7/10, built in the 70's... It can't be helped but to look like giant box
ucho February 16th, 2007, 01:01 PM Power in simplicity. Black and beautiful. From me 9/10
mako22 February 16th, 2007, 01:15 PM Love this black facade and this .. hmmm ... classic, it's an appropriate word, shape. It deserves at least 7/10.
W!CKED March 23rd, 2007, 11:35 PM 8/10
FROM LOS ANGELES March 24th, 2007, 02:05 AM A box, 5/10.
Crizzy March 24th, 2007, 06:58 PM 9/10
up the tigers April 2nd, 2007, 09:11 PM One of the better box shaped buildings around. Any other colour than black and i wouldnt like it.
7/10
Kelsen May 14th, 2007, 05:19 AM 8/10:)
Ralphkke May 18th, 2007, 11:33 PM I like the black color and the glass, a 8 out of 10.
Aliya June 11th, 2007, 09:32 PM 10/10
i love the black
cong san muon nam June 14th, 2007, 04:37 PM 5/10
LMCA1990 September 6th, 2007, 04:08 AM 7/10
Sound. September 7th, 2007, 07:17 PM 6/10
SkyLerm September 9th, 2007, 01:14 PM 4/10 bfff... just a box.
newyorkrunaway1 September 25th, 2007, 10:32 AM 1/10
Astralis September 27th, 2007, 01:12 AM Too black for me... 5/10
MasonicStage™ September 30th, 2007, 03:36 PM 6/10
RON-E October 1st, 2007, 07:58 AM 1/10
BOX!!!!
kon133 January 1st, 2008, 10:33 PM 10/10 :cheers:
IMPRESARIO January 21st, 2008, 02:16 AM boxy,black.bore.
Halabalooza February 24th, 2008, 11:13 PM ugly + icon = 6.5
Geiselgesell March 5th, 2008, 06:03 PM If you look at it carefully, you notice that it is well proportioned and uses harmonic colors and materials. All in all this building is really much more than a common box, I think it is one of the best boxes in the world!
10/10
Jim856796 March 18th, 2008, 10:43 PM 7.5/10
Pengui March 29th, 2008, 06:12 PM Good stuff with elegant proportions and very nice reflectivity on the materials.
Ground level is hopelessly outdated but I guess that was the trend at that time... :-/
6.5/10
Fundador March 30th, 2008, 09:14 AM cool design 8/10
DecoJim April 3rd, 2008, 08:04 PM 9/10
I originally was not a fan of Ludwig Mies van der Rohe's work.
The excesses of the post modern era have resulted in a reassessment of the elegant simplicity of this design. The proportions both overall and of each element such as the windows are very pleasing; they were not matched in the many imitation glass boxes that were built after this one.
GOR@N April 12th, 2008, 06:11 PM 5/10
Machone June 19th, 2008, 11:16 PM that's what i like:)!9/10
meds June 21st, 2008, 06:49 PM 7/10
tonyssa May 2nd, 2009, 03:45 PM http://www.chicagoarchitecture.info/Images/NearNorthSide/IBMBuilding-002.jpg
http://www.chicagoarchitecture.info/Images/NearNorthSide/IBMBuilding-003.jpg
7/10
henry hill May 26th, 2009, 08:49 PM 7,5/10
Jan Del Castillo August 17th, 2009, 06:40 AM 8. Good building. Regards.
xavarreiro September 23rd, 2009, 09:29 PM 8/10
wise_zech October 11th, 2009, 12:52 PM 6.5/10
#obert October 13th, 2009, 12:50 AM 7/10
Heroico October 31st, 2009, 11:50 PM ok my vote is 8/10
samuelsamario November 2nd, 2009, 02:30 AM 8/10
sieradzanin1 July 15th, 2010, 04:24 PM 10/10:)
romanito August 6th, 2010, 10:20 PM 7/10
yudibali2008 July 31st, 2011, 05:16 PM 8/10
Geocarlos July 31st, 2011, 06:54 PM 8/10
mossimoh January 22nd, 2012, 09:15 PM 6/10
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