Bangladesh Military Pics (Army, Navy and Airforce) [Archive]

brightside.

April 18th, 2008, 03:06 PM

Well, this is not a picture, but interested me nonetheless.

Bangladesh troops told to eat potatoes

DHAKA, April 17: More than half a million Bangladeshi troops have been ordered to eat potatoes in an attempt to ease the impact of surging rice and wheat prices.

Potatoes are not traditionally on the menu for Bangladesh’s 140 million people but army chief Gen Moeen U. Ahmed and the country’s army-backed interim government has ordered a change in diet because potatoes are now cheaper and more abundant.

World prices of rice, wheat, edible oil and pulses have almost doubled over the last year, increases that poorer Asian countries can ill afford. Bangladesh was hit last year by two severe floods and a cyclone that destroyed around 3 million tonnes of food grains, raising fears of a possible famine.

“The daily food menu now includes 125g of potato for each soldier irrespective of rank,” government agriculture adviser Choudhury Sajjad Karim quoted the army chief as saying on Thursday.

Potatoes will also be eaten daily by air force and navy personnel along with other regimental services including police, which together have more than 500,000 members.

Officials say the 8 million tonnes of potatoes produced this year — 3 million more than last year — could cushion any food emergency if the forthcoming rice and wheat harvests are hurt by seasonal storms.—Reuters

http://www.dawn.com/2008/04/18/top20.htm

I don't know about you guys, but I love potatoes :drool:

tanzirian

April 18th, 2008, 03:57 PM

Well, this is not a picture, but interested me nonetheless.

I don't know about you guys, but I love potatoes :drool:

Many Bangladeshis are just addicted to rice :)...being told to eat potatoes is like punishment.

TIslam

April 19th, 2008, 05:13 PM

Many Bangladeshis are just addicted to rice :)...being told to eat potatoes is like punishment.

But then, when you're hungry, you'd eat anything to fill your stomach. When push comes to a shove ....

Nothing wrong in trying to change the mindset/habits.

meghnarmajhi

April 20th, 2008, 07:09 AM

are we talking about "bheto bangali" now?

We like rice so much that we use the word "bhaat" for food.

"Kokhon bhaat khabi?"

"Bhaat kheye jao"

"Shakti nei keno? Bhaat khao ni?"

etc... etc.

sayem

April 20th, 2008, 10:30 PM

Well this is not a pic.....but related to BD Armed Forces....

New rifle factory inaugurated at BOF

Army Chief General Moeen U Ahmed inaugurated a new and modern factory for production of sophisticated rifles of BD-08 model at Bangladesh Ordnance Factories (BOF) in Gazipur Cantonment Sunday. The factory, set up under an agreement between Bangladesh and Chinese governments, has an annual production capacity of 10,000 rifles. These rifles will be the main weapon of the armed forces and other forces.

http://www.thefinancialexpress-bd.com/search_index.php?page=detail_news&news_id=31367

manbil777

April 21st, 2008, 05:42 PM

Here's a page that discusses the Type 81 assault rifle (BD-08). This had replaced the older generation 7.62mm Type 56 automatic rifle (AK-47 copy) in the Chinese inventory but still uses the same ammo. Good reliability according to most accounts.

http://www.sinodefence.com/army/small_arms/type81rifle.asp

Plasma.

April 24th, 2008, 02:56 AM

Good pictures, i like the army uniform and the " HEROES LIVE FOREVER" on the gate.

nayeem007

April 25th, 2008, 06:19 AM

Bangladesh Rifles

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nayeem007

April 25th, 2008, 06:19 AM

Army guarding railway station

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nayeem007

April 25th, 2008, 06:21 AM

RAB during Bishwa Ijtema- second largest gathering of muslims after Hajj

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nayeem007

April 25th, 2008, 06:23 AM

BDR- protector of our borders

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(the writing translates to : One Bullet one enemy]

phots: www.bdmilitary.com

nayeem007

April 25th, 2008, 06:24 AM

Bangladesh Army at UN missions

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nayeem007

April 25th, 2008, 06:25 AM

Squadron of F-7BG Bangladesh got from China

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nayeem007

April 26th, 2008, 06:48 PM

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nayeem007

April 26th, 2008, 06:49 PM

Military Police(MP) in action

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clearsky

April 26th, 2008, 06:49 PM

Army guarding railway station

I wonder why. As far as I know, there are no valuable items locked up in some rooms in the station. :lol:

nayeem007

April 26th, 2008, 06:50 PM

Army tanks

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nayeem007

April 27th, 2008, 08:02 AM

Chol Chol Chol- remix of Nazrul's song
dedicated to Bangladesh Army

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nayeem007

April 27th, 2008, 08:06 AM

Army patrolling the street- I believe this was taken a year back during the political turmoil

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nayeem007

April 27th, 2008, 08:08 AM

Helicopters

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nayeem007

April 27th, 2008, 08:09 AM

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nayeem007

April 27th, 2008, 08:23 AM

Music video on Bangladesh army in UN missions

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sayem

April 28th, 2008, 12:31 AM

Chol Chol Chol- remix of Nazrul's song
dedicated to Bangladesh Army

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cool....liked it.

nayeem007

April 29th, 2008, 06:24 AM

Rapid Action Battalion(RAB)- Elite force created to curb terrorism.

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tanzirian

April 30th, 2008, 02:18 AM

^^ I see they got color-coded canines :)

nayeem007

May 9th, 2008, 06:05 AM

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nayeem007

May 17th, 2008, 06:29 AM

Bangladesh Airforce

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meghnarmajhi

May 18th, 2008, 10:14 AM

Rapid Action Battalion(RAB)- Elite force created to curb terrorism.

..............

I want to hear from you guys. Are they good? I have heard some negatives about how RAB is being.

Dhakaiya

May 18th, 2008, 12:23 PM

BNS Bangabandhu has been renamed BNS Khalid bin Walid after the new government came. My dad was in the navy, he retired two years earlier.

Dhakaiya

May 18th, 2008, 12:25 PM

BTW, he also served in RAB for 2 years. Glory days! :D Iwish I could get those back.

TIslam

May 18th, 2008, 11:22 PM

BNS Bangabandhu has been renamed BNS Khalid bin Walid after the new government came. My dad was in the navy, he retired two years earlier.

Not wise to rename anything, Bangabandhu.

Dhakaiya

May 20th, 2008, 03:25 PM

Sort of true but most of the larger navy ships are named after great generals of Islam- Osman, Abu Bakr, Umar Farooq for example. So Khalid bin Walid is just a contiuation of that tradition.

nayeem007

May 27th, 2008, 07:25 AM

Bangladesh army on the streets

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TIslam

May 28th, 2008, 04:49 AM

Pretty mean dudes! Only one appears to be smiling, sort of. :)

nayeem007

May 29th, 2008, 03:50 AM

Interview of Major Ziaur Rahman during Liberation war

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7th March speech of Shiekh Mujibur Rahman

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amar11372

June 30th, 2008, 12:25 AM

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saad_hawk

June 30th, 2008, 01:46 AM

dude thats a cool pictureshot of MIG...nice one. Plz post more

Dhakaiya

September 30th, 2008, 08:13 AM

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http://asalimreza.googlepages.com/bdarmy-inUN.jpg/bdarmy-inUN-full;init:.jpg

nayeem007

November 26th, 2008, 04:03 AM

Bangladesh Navy music video

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nayeem007

November 26th, 2008, 06:15 AM

Bangladesh Airforce Video

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ajprobashi

November 26th, 2008, 07:40 AM

Bangladesh Airforce Video

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This is the best video when representing our armed forces. All the other videos made in Bangladesh regarding our military are corny, with perky music.

manbil777

February 7th, 2009, 02:44 AM

This is a recommendation for the Coast Guard (what they should get) and not what we have at present. So far we have gotten smaller local made Fast patrol Boats (FPB's) for the CG with normal dual-diesels going at 25 knots. next step is to get some experience making really fast stuff. Like a 33m class FPB with waterjet engines pulling 60 knots (in calm seas) instead of 25 knots. A Turkish Shipyard (Yonca-Onuk JV) is the fabricator which was delivered to Pakistan in 2006 (PNS Zarrar). We can easily build one locally but the MTU engine and waterjet combo has to be specially integrated. This could prove to be highly profitable as well for export. Here it is,

http://yonca-onuk.com/images_800/tekneler/mtp_33.jpg
http://www.yonca-onuk.com/images_800/tekneler/33mtp_cizim.jpg
Photos copyright Yonca-Onuk JV

Here are the specs:

33 METRE Fast Patrol / Attack Craft

The advanced composite ONUK MRTPÂ®33 Fast Patrol / Attack Craft is the extended and improved version of the 90 tonne ONUK MRTPÂ®29 (KAAN 29 Class) of the Turkish Coast Guard. ONUK MRTPÂ®33 is developed as a versatile multi role platform for the increasingly tough requirements of the naval and law enforcement forces to control the littoral and the coastal waters.
Internally, the advanced machinery systems and arrangement result in a vessel with greatly enhanced operability, maintainability and accommodation standards.

PRIMARY ROLES
Mastery of the littoral can not be presumed. It does not derive directly from command of the high seas. It is an objective which requires our focused skills and resources. ONUK MRTPÂ®33 "Fast Patrol / Attack Craftâ€ has been designed for this purpose, capable of carrying out a wide range of littoral and coastal water law enforcement-naval duties and open sea rescue, including:
Patrol / Escort / Fast attack
Search and rescue
Anti smuggling
Pollution control
Anti terrorist protection of the coastal and offshore installations
Surveillance / Covert surveillance
Seal insertion-extraction

BACKGROUND:
The ONUK MRTPÂ®33 Fast Patrol / Attack Craft is the extended and improved version of the 90 tonne ONUK MRTPÂ®29 ("KAAN 29" Class) Fast Patrol Craft of the Turkish Coast Guard. A series of ten ONUK MRTPÂ®29 are under construction, with five boats built and delivered as of july 2002.

The new member of the MRTPÂ® (Multi Role Tactical Platform) family of boats, a concept created and developed by Kaan N.Z. Onuk; will have improved sea keeping, highly stealthy characteristics, and will be able to carry larger mission equipment/payload such as combined 30mm gun and short range SSM stabilized launcher, surface-to-surface medium range F&F fiber guided missiles, EO fire control systems and decoys.

PERFORMANCE:
Speed and seakeeping:
The ONUK MRTPÂ®33 has been developed for a tough professional use with excellent performance qualities at both low and high speeds and strong emphasis on seakeeping. The ONUK OE-01 deep V hull, depending on engine selection and boat configuration, will enable the boat to reach speeds up to 60 knots in calm waters and up to 40 knots in Sea State 4. ONUK MRTPÂ®33 has a soft and dry ride in adverse conditions, offering, thus, an outstanding platform for the various tasks in the brown waters and the open sea.

The MJP water jet drive system provides extreme maneuverability with high precision control and a very shallow draught, enhancing the operation in confined waters or intercepting/boarding larger ships in rough seas.

Stability: Intact-Damaged:
Commercial and Turkish / NATO naval standards have been applied to the ONUK MRTPÂ®33 for the intact and damaged stability. ONUK MRTPÂ®33 meets the DNV standards as well as Turkish Navy and NATO criteria for damaged stability and will remain afloat and upright with flooding in any single main compartment.

CONSTRUCTION AND COMPONENTS:
ONUK MRTPÂ®33 is built in advanced composites to satisfy the very tough requirements of an intensive professional use together with a long service life. The benefits of the advanced composite structure are:

WEIGHT REDUCTION
* Improved Performance
* Increased Payload
* Fuel Savings

CORROSION RESISTANCE
*Longer service life
* Maintenance savings

IMPROVED
* Threat avoidance/detection
* Ballistic protection

REDUCED SIGNATURES
* Machinery vibration/acoustic
* Magnetic signature
* Heat signature

The hull and superstructure are constructed to Det Norske Veritas (DNV) HSLC Patrol R2 classification. All boats of the series are delivered with the relevant DNV Certificates.

The helm station and the interiors have been designed in line with the SAE recommendations for ergonomics to provide the crew with maximum comfort and minimum fatigue in prolonged use in heavy seas.

Machinery and propulsion
The CODAG high-speed propulsion system consists of two MTU 16V2000M90 diesels and a Honeywell TF50 gas turbine; all driving through MJP water jets. The diesels will allow 28 knots patrol speed, while the gas turbine will enable the boat to reach it's maximum speed. CODOG and all diesel propulsion systems are available on request. Depending on the mission and speed requirements, the ONUK MRTPÂ®33 can be equipped with different components for optimum operational efficiency/price ratio.

The mechanical components are selected with the intensive professional use in mind. They offer a high level of reliability, despite the extreme performance requirements.

MISSION MODULES
ONUK MRTPÂ®33 can be equipped with various mission modules depending on the customer requirements. Despite the size of the platform, these modules have been integrated with the modularity and reconfigurability objectives in mind. Thus, the platform can be reconfigured with different mission modules, increasing dramatically the operational flexibility and reducing the costs. The mission modules would be:
Multi weapon mounts.
- Stabilized naval turret with up to 30 mm. gun
(+ short range SSM).
- Medium range SSM (Total weights up to 5 tons).
- Short range SAM.
- 2 x 12.7 mm. heavy MG.
Multi sensor surveillance unit
(EOD with capabilty of controlling the main gun).
Search and rescue equipment
Decoys
SOF (Special Operation Forces) support/SDV (Seal Delivery Vehicle)
Pollution control

DIMENSIONS
Length, deck: 33.00m
LOA (Inc platform): 35.60 m
Beam, max: 6.70 m
Draught: 1.40 m
OPERATIONAL CHARACTERISTICS
Maximum speed, at full load: 45+ knots(Up to 55 knots available depending onengine selection and configuration)
Propulsion: All Diesels: 2 x 2720 kW MTU, 16V4000M90(Other engines available)
CODAG; Diesels: 2 x 1300 kW, MTU 16V2000M90
Gas turbine: 1 x 4000 kW Honeywell TF50 (Other engines available)
Drive system Water Jets, MJP 753 DD (for all diesels)
Water Jets, 3 x MJP 650/750 (for CODAG)

Range: 650 nautical miles (at 24 knots)
Dead weight: 30.0 tonne (metric)
CAPACITIES
Fuel capacity: 20.00 m3
Fresh water: 1.50 m3
Endurance: 3 days
Crew Up to 20

mirzazeehan

February 22nd, 2009, 09:59 PM

The Maritime problem with Myanmar is prolly responsible for the govt taking these decisions.Our "Cash strapped,internationally sanctioned" neighbor is unlikely to be able to keep up with our defence expenditure

Govt plans military hardware
purchase: planning minister
Staff Correspondent

The government has planned purchase of a number of military hardware, including tanks and anti-aircraft missiles and destroyers, to strengthen the Armed Forces, the planning minister, AK Khandker, disclosed in the parliament on Sunday.
‘The government has a number of plans to strengthen our army, navy and air force keeping our financial conditions in mind by arming them up with modern equipment and providing the with necessary training,’ Khandker, who is also in charge of the defence ministry in the parliament, said in reply to a question by Zafar Iqbal Siddiqui, the lawmaker for the Nilphamari 1 constituency.
The minister said the government had plans to procure helicopters, tanks, armoured personal carriers, missiles to destroy tanks and aircraft, sniper rifles, radio equipment, ammunition, night vision and other equipment in the current financial year for the army.
The government also arranged training in computer simulation in 27 places for the army.
Apart from members of the Bangladesh Armed Forces, members of other countries are being trained in the institutions while the Armed Forces mem-bers are receiving joint training with the armed forces of other friendly countries.
The government has also planned to replace three frigates more than 50 years old with new ones to turn the navy into a three-dimensional force.
The matter was under the government’s active consideration, and the authorities have started contacting different countries for replacement of the frigates, he said
The minister said the process for signing an agreement for the procurement of the ship-destroying missile had been finalised to modernise the frigate at a cost of Tk 120 crore. The agreement is in the final stages to get the government nod.
The government also floated international bidding to procure anti-helicopter and maritime patrol aircrafts to strengthen maritime patrol in the Bay of Bengal.
It has plans to modernise the air force. It will procure equipment to guard Bangladesh’s sky, to carry out rescue operations in case of natural calamities and to assist the army and navy in need.
The plans will be implemented in phases, the minister said.

Source:http://www.newagebd.com/2009/feb/23/front.html#11

mirzazeehan

February 22nd, 2009, 11:00 PM

Govt plans major defence spending
Missiles, frigates, tanks, choppers, aircraft for maritime patrol to be purchased, JS told

Monday February 23 2009 00:10:33 AM BDT

The government yesterday unveiled in parliament plans to strengthen the country's defence system by procuring new military hardware including anti-tank and air-defence missiles, frigates, tanks, choppers and aircraft for maritime patrol.

Planning Minister Air-Vice Marshal (retd) AK Khandker, who is in charge of the armed forces affairs in parliament, said the purchases will be made in the current and next fiscal years.

He however did not give any idea about the cost. He said the government measures to make the forces well equipped and trained will be in line with the country's financial condition.

Answering a question from ruling alliance lawmaker Zafar Iqbal Siddiqui, the planning minister said preparations are complete for signing a deal to buy anti-ship missiles for the navy at an estimated cost of Tk 120 crore this year.

The matter is now awaiting the government's approval. Besides, work is on to set up anti-aircraft missile systems on the most modern frigate at the navy's disposal.

The leading-edge ship was purchased during the AL rule in 1996-2001. On coming to power in 2001, the BNP-led alliance government decommissioned the ship equipped for both peacetime and war on grounds of corruption in the purchase. It also sued Sheikh Hasina and some others for the alleged graft.

The planning minister also said a process is underway to replace three frigates aged over 50 years with new ones to be purchased or built.

Different countries are being approached to this effect, he said adding that these are long-term plans to prepare the navy to meet the challenges of 21st century.

“An international tender has already been floated to purchase choppers and aircraft to strengthen the maritime patrol and also to turn the navy into a three-dimensional force,” said Khandker, also former air force chief.

For the army, he continued, the government will purchase helicopters, tanks, armoured personnel carriers, anti-tank and -aircraft missiles, sniper rifles, explosives, night vision equipment, modern radio devices, vehicles and other necessary hardware in the current fiscal year.

The government also plans to upgrade training for the army personnel by setting up simulators at 27 training establishments. “Our standard of training has been lauded all over the world,” the planning minister said.

For the air force, he said, the government has plans to purchase modern aircraft and cutting-edge equipment. The plans will be implemented gradually.

Stressing the need for raising air strength, Khandker said the air force gives necessary assistance to the army and navy in rescue and relief operations during emergencies at home and abroad and defend the air space.

The previous AL government purchased eight MiG-29 fighters for the air force. The last BNP government brought charges against Hasina and others for corruption in that purchase as well.

In reply to a query from AL lawmaker Akram Hossain Chowdhury, State Minister for Liberation War Affairs Captain (retd) AB Tajul Islam told the House that 3,713 members of the armed forces laid down their lives during the Liberation War in 1971 according to the list of defence ministry.

Citing government statistics, he said 2,10, 581 freedom fighters joined the war, and of them, 25,505 were from the defence force.

Some unstarred questions on defence purchase were not discussed in parliament. As per the rules of procedure, unstarred questions are answered in writing.

Source:http://www.bangladesh-web.com/view.php?hidRecord=248461

manbil777

February 23rd, 2009, 04:27 PM

Govt plans major defence spending
Missiles, frigates, tanks, choppers, aircraft for maritime patrol to be purchased, JS told

Monday February 23 2009 00:10:33 AM BDT

Answering a question from ruling alliance lawmaker Zafar Iqbal Siddiqui, the planning minister said preparations are complete for signing a deal to buy anti-ship missiles for the navy at an estimated cost of Tk 120 crore this year.

The matter is now awaiting the government's approval. Besides, work is on to set up anti-aircraft missile systems on the most modern frigate at the navy's disposal.

My best guess is that this will only come from China...

The planning minister also said a process is underway to replace three frigates aged over 50 years with new ones to be purchased or built.

Different countries are being approached to this effect, he said adding that these are long-term plans to prepare the navy to meet the challenges of 21st century.

Ditto, China or Korea.

“[B]An international tender has already been floated to purchase choppers and aircraft to strengthen the maritime patrol and also to turn the navy into a three-dimensional force,” said Khandker, also former air force chief.

For the army, he continued, the government will purchase helicopters, tanks, armoured personnel carriers, anti-tank and -aircraft missiles, sniper rifles, explosives, night vision equipment, modern radio devices, vehicles and other necessary hardware in the current fiscal year.

The government also plans to upgrade training for the army personnel by setting up simulators at 27 training establishments. “Our standard of training has been lauded all over the world,” the planning minister said.

For the air force, he said, the government has plans to purchase modern aircraft and cutting-edge equipment. The plans will be implemented gradually.

Source:http://www.bangladesh-web.com/view.php?hidRecord=248461

This is a little vague on the latter part and is the least costly component...

Dhakaiya

February 26th, 2009, 10:30 AM

Time BDR was dissolved. Army is enough to handle things. The only reason they don't want army officers is that so that they can smuggle freely across the border.

TIslam

February 26th, 2009, 02:49 PM

Time BDR was dissolved. Army is enough to handle things. The only reason they don't want army officers is that so that they can smuggle freely across the border.

As much as somebody may wish to, it is not possible to do so (dissolve BDR), per international laws and conventions. Fulltime military (army) cannot be permanently deployed at the border for border patrol duties, etc. They have to be paramilitary, thus the existence of BDR, BSF, FF (Pakistan), US Border Patrol, etc. Best the government can do is cleanse from within.

mirzazeehan

February 26th, 2009, 06:55 PM

Do you guys think the government will punish the BDR soldiers who were responsible for the deaths of so many civilians,military officers,and even their family members?Or do you think the "general amnesty" will actually take effect and those responsible for this disaster will be forgiven by both the army and the government.I would like these people to get the punishment they deserve.

tislam84

February 26th, 2009, 07:29 PM

^^I am pretty sure that some of the perpetrators will be court marshalled.

nayeem007

February 26th, 2009, 09:53 PM

^^I am pretty sure that some of the perpetrators will be court marshalled.

Well BDR is under home ministry unlike the army and thus they are not subject to court marshall. They will need to be tried under the civilian court unless the army takes action unilaterally..

nayeem007

February 27th, 2009, 04:21 AM

BDR Rebellion 2009 in Pictures.
Photos:Courtsey of Sadeque Rahman

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nayeem007

February 27th, 2009, 04:22 AM

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nayeem007

February 27th, 2009, 04:22 AM

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nayeem007

February 27th, 2009, 04:23 AM

The rebels of BDR

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nayeem007

February 27th, 2009, 04:32 AM

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tislam84

February 27th, 2009, 05:58 PM

Well BDR is under home ministry unlike the army and thus they are not subject to court marshall. They will need to be tried under the civilian court unless the army takes action unilaterally..

I did not know that. Thanks for the info Nayeem.

I saw in the BBC that officials found 58 more bodies buried in BDR compound. I hope there is a proper investigation and the masterminds are tried in court.

Zaki

February 27th, 2009, 06:13 PM

I did not know that. Thanks for the info Nayeem.

I saw in the BBC that officials found 58 more bodies buried in BDR compound. I hope there is a proper investigation and the masterminds are tried in court.

I dont know how true this information is but apparently most of the main culprits are already out of the country. They escaped in civilian clothes and left straight for the airport. I am really starting to doubt that this was just a chance event. It looks like some people put a lot of planning into this.

amar11372

February 27th, 2009, 10:48 PM

I dont know how true this information is but apparently most of the main culprits are already out of the country. They escaped in civilian clothes and left straight for the airport. I am really starting to doubt that this was just a chance event. It looks like some people put a lot of planning into this.

The RAB and police said they caught everyone who tried to do this.

TIslam

February 27th, 2009, 11:10 PM

The RAB and police said they caught everyone who tried to do this.

I very much doubt it. But then we won't know for sure because like in the past, the results of the investigation shall not be made public. If I'm proven wrong, I shall have to admit that politics, politicians, and the government of Bangladesh has indeed come of age and finally showing its confidence and maturity. That would be wonderful.

saad_hawk

February 28th, 2009, 09:33 AM

This is some serious sick shit.....

manbil777

February 28th, 2009, 06:07 PM

manbil777

February 28th, 2009, 06:40 PM

deleted -- double post

tislam84

March 1st, 2009, 05:32 AM

What is interesting is that there was enough effort put in to bury the bodies as much as killing them. Why?

That is an interesting point - I never thought about that. Did they think that the investigators would not find them, and would just think that they were missing? And why were some buried and some dumped in the manholes?

By the way Manbil Bhai, the link to the blog that you posted was great! The blogger did a great job analyzing it. He did mention that he would reveal a very important evidence on Monday, I wonder what it is?

manbil777

March 2nd, 2009, 10:01 AM

That is an interesting point - I never thought about that. Did they think that the investigators would not find them, and would just think that they were missing? And why were some buried and some dumped in the manholes?

By the way Manbil Bhai, the link to the blog that you posted was great! The blogger did a great job analyzing it. He did mention that he would reveal a very important evidence on Monday, I wonder what it is?

Eventually the effort to bury the bodies may have been simply a stupid attempt to 'finalize' the murders. Sloppy, sloppy, sloppy. Whoever did these have no idea about modern forensic science. The fact that younger recruits did this is an intelligence failure of the BDR brass which they paid for with blood.

As of now -- evidence is pointing toward a Jamati connection. The Times of India article is trying to frame Salahuddin Quader Chowdhury -- but it is well known that the Indians (RAW) hate him for shipping arms to the ULFAs. I personally gather he was trying to make a quick buck and there's little ideology involved...

Whoever did this had tried,

1. Either to weaken Hasina's efforts to frame war criminals, or
2. To weaken the Army's influence and administration (chop off the head)

Anyways let the water clear some -- and the puzzle pieces will fall into place. Still too early to tell.

mizanbdit

May 2nd, 2009, 09:18 AM

Thanks a lot for these pictures.

Manazir

May 17th, 2009, 07:51 AM

Guys, please visit www.bdmilitary.com and join their forum aswell in www.bdmilitary.com/forum .......... its not only for people who are interested in military only.....its for everyone actually because its got a lot of non-military discussions too......sort of like this forum a bit.......but very enjoying forum tht one! :D

so far, Ive seen only one guy from here who recently joined there...... Manbil777 brother......so it would be better if others join too :) ........my name in tht forum is "Avtomat Kalashinkov" btw, FYI :P

thanx

nayeem007

June 14th, 2009, 10:29 AM

Manazir

June 16th, 2009, 11:17 AM

cool.....yeah Ive noticed ur nick......my nick is "Avtomat Kalashinkov" XD!

dopekhor

June 17th, 2009, 03:08 AM

teh fuck i aint paying money for some forum.

Manazir

June 17th, 2009, 04:24 PM

Dopekhor bro, dude we didnt have to pay money......where did u see it?? its only subscribing sumthin i guess??.......just sign up!

nayeem007

July 2nd, 2009, 11:59 PM

http://www.armyrecognition.com/images/stories/asia/bangladesh/ranks_uniforms/uniforms/pictures/Bangladesh_army_soldier_combat_uniforms_001.jpg

http://www.armyrecognition.com/images/stories/asia/bangladesh/wheeled_armoured/btr-80/pictures/BTR-80_wheeled_armoured_vehicle_personnel_carrier_Bangladesh_Army_001.jpg

Manazir

July 3rd, 2009, 12:20 AM

^^ where did u get those lol? www.bdmilitary.com has the largest and the most finest & latest collection of Bangladesh Armed Forces pics.

nayeem007

July 3rd, 2009, 03:08 AM

^^ where did u get those lol? www.bdmilitary.com has the largest and the most finest & latest collection of Bangladesh Armed Forces pics.

I got it from www.armyrecognition.com, looks like Ashiq has seriously made you some kind of PR person for Bdmilitary lol .Btw he is a pretty chill guy, I used to chat with him very frequently over msn during the early days of Bdmilitary. I think you should try to popularize the site at Banglacricket aswell, they have over 9,000 registered members.

Before Bdmilitary was created, we were regular members at BDSDF(Bangladesh Strategic Defence forum),PDF(Pakistani Defence forum) and to a lesser extent at Bharat Rakhshak... it has been like 5-6 years since those days! Participating at those forums were a big factor behind creating bdmilitary. There was another site called Urbanbangladesh that was created to portray the positive news of Bangladesh..

Infact I used to maintain the non-military sub sections at Bdmilitary (Social,Business,Technology etc). I used lot of skyscrapercity pics to start the general image section there haha

http://www.bdmilitary.com/forum/index.php?/topic/127672-discover-bangladesh-part-i/

Manazir

July 3rd, 2009, 10:03 AM

nayeem007

July 4th, 2009, 05:48 AM

^^ I would be happy if u were active again in tht forum :) , btw, bdmilitary isnt quite too old, its been 4 years only. so yeah, btw, they got a new design now, chek it out ;).....does urbanbd stilll exist?

Yeah Bdmilitary is only 4 years old(I was the third member after Ashiq and Bodrul), I meant we were in BDSDF, PDF etc 5-6 years back... while posting in those sites Ashiq felt the need for a seperate dedicated Bangladeshi armed forces website.

The thing is I am quite argumentative in nature(as you can see from my posts here) :) , so I don't want to get involved in defense/strategic discussions anymore since it can take a lot of your personal time....

But all the best for the patriotic members there. It's good to have a young crowd interested in the development of the country.

manbil777

July 4th, 2009, 08:07 PM

Yeah Bdmilitary is only 4 years old(I was the third member after Ashiq and Bodrul), I meant we were in BDSDF, PDF etc 5-6 years back... while posting in those sites Ashiq felt the need for a seperate dedicated Bangladeshi armed forces website.

The thing is I am quite argumentative in nature(as you can see from my posts here) :) , so I don't want to get involved in defense/strategic discussions anymore since it can take a lot of your personal time....

But all the best for the patriotic members there. It's good to have a young crowd interested in the development of the country.

I think I started doing this forum thing pretty early (starting around 1998). Other than off-periods and sabbaticals due to professional and business involvements I've created a couple of forums myself and then handed them over to younger folks.

My objective has been to create a community of younger patriotic Bangladeshis (irrespective of background, religion or creed) and I think I have largely succeeded over the years. Ask Ashiq -- he was a regular at my second forum and he should remember :)

nayeem007

July 5th, 2009, 06:39 AM

I think I started doing this forum thing pretty early (starting around 1998). Other than off-periods and sabbaticals due to professional and business involvements I've created a couple of forums myself and then handed them over to younger folks.

My objective has been to create a community of younger patriotic Bangladeshis (irrespective of background, religion or creed) and I think I have largely succeeded over the years. Ask Ashiq -- he was a regular at my second forum and he should remember :)

Manbil bhai, I think I have seen you at BDSDF(started by Maruf bhai) as well long time back... Good work in starting the initiative as early as 98!

manbil777

July 6th, 2009, 08:09 AM

Manbil bhai, I think I have seen you at BDSDF(started by Maruf bhai) as well long time back... Good work in starting the initiative as early as 98!

Well -- hey Thanks :)

If memory serves me right Maruf was also a regular in one of my forums before he started BDSDF. I no longer had time to administer the forums due to family and business obligations and handed them over to other admins. If you're listening Maruf -- my deepest apologies.

I'm sure many of the Hindutva folks in one of their main forums going back that far (1998) remember me by my handle when I used to give them a bit of a hard-time. My notoriety goes back that far :)

But -- things are different now. In fact -- most of those early forumers probably have turned lurkers by now.

Manazir

July 6th, 2009, 09:03 PM

^^ Manbil bhai u r also there in BMF forum lol......less than 10 posts uve got :P

manbil777

July 7th, 2009, 08:36 AM

^^ Manbil bhai u r also there in BMF forum lol......less than 10 posts uve got :P

Bhai tomader moto single young life thakley post aro barano jeto.

Too busy with various obligations and most days I get maybe ten minutes of Internet.

Manazir

July 7th, 2009, 11:34 AM

^^ *sigh* ..... 10 mins is nuthing for using the net!

Manazir

July 9th, 2009, 10:33 PM

Nayeem bro, I thought BDSDF doesnt exist anymore but to my surprise, it still exists lol, i just checked :D

manbil777

July 10th, 2009, 06:13 AM

Nayeem bro, I thought BDSDF doesnt exist anymore but to my surprise, it still exists lol, i just checked :D

Mashallah Maruf created that forum and in his able hands it will exist many more years. The leadership capability is there.

Manazir

July 10th, 2009, 07:27 AM

^^ indeed lol, but it seems kinda dead hehe! :P

Manazir

July 12th, 2009, 09:16 PM

guys, the BMF (BDmilitary Forum) has opened their facebook page. Please do join so that we can know more about each other and discuss stuff :) .....oh btw, im the Public Relations officer lol ;)

link:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=101921403188

nayeem007

July 30th, 2009, 08:16 PM

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Members of the armed forces climb an artificial rock wall during the handover ceremony of the wall at Jalalabad Cantonment in Sylhet yesterday. Photo: STAR

nayeem007

August 7th, 2009, 09:29 PM

Army pullout from CHT kicks off
2 camps withdrawn; one brigade, 33 more camps to go

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The first army camp withdraws from Manikchhari in Khagrachhari yesterday.Photo: STAR
Star ReportThe government yesterday formally started pulling out temporary army camps from Chittagong Hill Tracts with two camps in Khagrachhari and Rangamati as per its recent decision to implement the CHT Peace Accord 1997.

The camps were located at Manikchhari of Mahalchhari upazila in Khagrachhari and at Ghagra in Rangamati.

On July 29, the government announced to withdraw one brigade troops and 35 temporary security camps from CHT region by this September.

The withdrawal of Mankchhari camp with 40 army personnel started at 11:00am and completed around 5:00pm, reports our correspondent in Khagrachhari. The camp was established in 1988 to ensure security in 23 areas.

Mahalchhari army zone's Acting Commander Maj Mamunur Rashid said all structures of the temporary camp were knocked down while the army personnel and movable stuffs of the camp were taken to the zone headquarters.

He said the land used for the camp was given back to the original owners--Shanti Bikash Chakma, Naya Ram Chakma, Premo Ranjan and Jyoti Lal Chakma.

The landowners have been given Tk 2,000 each a month as rent of the land.

However, the owners are not allowed to construct anything on the land as the army will use it until 2011 as per an agreement, he added.

Mahalchhari upazila Chairman Sona Ratan Chakma said an equal proportion of Bangalee settlers and indigenous people live in the 5 acres of land.

Upazila Nirbahi Officer Saiful Arif and the officer-in-charge of Manikchhari Police Station were present during the withdrawal activities.

Around 10 other temporary camps under Khagrachhari brigade of the army will be withdrawn in phases, said sources.

Our correspondent from Rangamati reports: Apart from the Hamid Tila army camp at Ghagra, four other temporary security camps are in the process of withdrawal. Those are Dighalchhari and Bengal Tila army camps in Barkal upazila, Dewanchar army camp at Subhalang and Rajnagar police camp at Longudu.

Army sources said nine military camps set up in the district 15-25 years ago, including Hamid Tila, will be withdrawn in phases.

The four other camps are Uttanchatra army camp at Chhotoharina, Nagar Ali Tila and Rankatya army camps at Longudu, and Guniapara army camp at Naniachar.

Troops withdrawn from the camps were sent to the Chittagong Cantonment, said sources.

The process to withdraw camps from Bandarban is yet to start.

According to the peace accord, the government is supposed to withdraw all military camps and security forces from CHT excepting the three cantonments in Bandarban, Khagrachhari and Rangamati district headquarters and those in Alikadam and Ruma upazilas of Bandarban and Dighinala of Khagrachhari, police and border security.

According to the government, 200 security camps have so far been withdrawn in phases since the accord was signed between the then Awami League government and Parbatya Chattagram Jana Sanghati Samity on December 2, 1997 to bring an end to two decades of insurgency and unrest in the hill districts.

After signing the accord, members of the Jana Sanghati Samity who had been fighting for autonomy of the CHT surrendered arms to the then AL government.

However, implementation of the accord saw little progress after the BNP-Jamaat-led alliance government assumed state power in 2001. The alliance had opposed signing of the accord.

After assuming power in January, the AL again initiated steps to implement the CHT Peace Accord to bring normalcy in the region and in May made Deputy Leader of the House Syeda Sajeda Chowdhury the chairperson of a national committee for implementation of the accord.

http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=100422

nayeem007

August 20th, 2009, 06:57 PM

Bangladesh air force eyes upgrades and new aircraft
By Siva Govindasamy

Bangladesh's air force is embarking on a major modernisation drive. The service hopes to upgrade some of its fighters and helicopters in the near term and new trainers and light attack aircraft over the longer term in the plan.

The air force prepared an internal report on the issue in June and submitted it to parliament for approval, say Bangladeshi news reports. The service is seeking an annual 10% increase in its budget over the next 10 years to achieve this, they add.

Air force officials decline to comment, but industry sources say the service has been keen to upgrade its capabilities after several years of neglect. Around 70% of the air force's aircraft have been in service for more than 20 years, while only 18% were inducted in the last 10 years, says the report.

"The air force is proceeding with the dream to build a digital air force," the service is quoted as saying in the report. This will help it to "prepare, operate and maintain an air force capable of projecting air power in order to uphold and promote our national interest".

Initially, it plans to set up facilities to upgrade its Chengdu F-7 fighters and various Russian-made helicopters. By 2021, it hopes to begin replacing the older aircraft, says the report. These include its Nanchang A-5, Shenyang FT-6 and F-7 fighters. It also hopes to introduce airborne early warning capability into the air force.

Budget allocations for the air force have been falling, according to the reports. While the service received 20.9% of the total defence budget in the 2005-6 financial year, this went down to 15.11% in 2008-9, they add. Most of the budgetary allocation is spent on maintenance, salaries, supplies and instalments for past purchases. As a result, only 4-6% is allocated for new purchases.

Industry sources say that Chinese and Russian government officials have been in Bangladesh in the past few years offering new aircraft and credit facilities.
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/08/19/331222/bangladesh-air-force-eyes-upgrades-and-new-aircraft.html

nayeem007

August 20th, 2009, 06:57 PM

^^ Digital Airforce :lol:

Manazir

August 20th, 2009, 08:22 PM

^^
LMAO :lol:

King Nothing

August 22nd, 2009, 02:31 PM

Army pullout from CHT kicks off
2 camps withdrawn; one brigade, 33 more camps to go

Finally. Good move. Hopefully there will be peace there.

King Nothing

August 22nd, 2009, 02:48 PM

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Initially, it plans to set up facilities to upgrade its Chengdu F-7 fighters and various Russian-made helicopters. By 2021, it hopes to begin replacing the older aircraft, says the report. These include its Nanchang A-5, Shenyang FT-6 and F-7 fighters. It also hopes to introduce airborne early warning capability into the air force.

I read somewhere that our military takes up a huge chunk of our budget. It would be better if we devoted those funds towards education and infrastructure. Japan stopped going for military advancements and concentrated on economic development and look where they are now.

Dhakaiya

August 22nd, 2009, 03:26 PM

Japan as an island did not have to worry about any external threats. We need a military strong enough at least to make any potential invader give a second thought due to the immense casualties they would suffer despite a likely victory.

King Nothing

August 22nd, 2009, 03:54 PM

Enemies dont only attack by land. Looking at the countries with powerful militaries around us we wont be able to do a thing if they attack us will we?

Panama and Costa Rica have the highest GDP per capita in Latin America and guess what they dont have a millitary.

nayeem007

August 22nd, 2009, 05:43 PM

Bangladesh has the lowest per capita military expenditure in entire South Asia.. Infact if you look into our armed forces (army, airforce or navy), most of the equipments are 2-3 decades old.

Also, I feel that we need to focus on Naval upgrade in order to protect the huge natural resources in Bay of Bengal. Few months back Myanmar started drilling in our territory and only after sending a Frigate they backed down.

Another thing to note is, Japan was forced by the "Allies" after WW II to contain their military expansion. The atomic bombs and the events of world war had a lasting impact in their policies in this regard. Only in the last 20-30 years they have started to focus back on military and infact Japan ranks sixth in the world in total defense expenditures.

Anyways, I don't think we need to increase military expenditure(since we have other priorities like education and infrastructure), but we need to keep the current amount in order to sustain a functioning armed force.

amar11372

August 22nd, 2009, 07:24 PM

I read somewhere that our military takes up a huge chunk of our budget. It would be better if we devoted those funds towards education and infrastructure. Japan stopped going for military advancements and concentrated on economic development and look where they are now.

On the contrary King Nothing, BD has one of the lowest military spending in the world. For a comparison BD spends only 1% of its GDP on military compared to other south Asian country's average of 3-5% and the USA's 6% of it GDP.

mirzazeehan

August 23rd, 2009, 04:33 PM

On the contrary King Nothing, BD has one of the lowest military spending in the world. For a comparison BD spends only 1% of its GDP on military compared to other south Asian country's average of 3-5% and the USA's 6% of it GDP.

I think BD is going in the right direction....our exports and other foreign currency sources are expected to increase dramatically over the next 5 years...maybe we can think of spending some money on our military then.For now,I dont see India as a threat,and I think "Asia's poorest country,Myanmar" is not in any condition to pose a threat to us either.However,its only my personal opinion and I am sure many will differ with me

Manazir

August 23rd, 2009, 05:27 PM

^^
Currently, India isnt a big threat to us (apart from Tipaimukh dam) because our govt is India-friendly. However, Myanmar is a great threat to us atm, especially over the maritime boundary issue! There is a possibility that they are plotting some evil against us because they are moving some of their army bases near our border. Our army must be prepared against any attack from those juntas!

TIslam

August 23rd, 2009, 05:31 PM

For now,I dont see India as a threat,and I think "Asia's poorest country,Myanmar" is not in any condition to pose a threat to us either.However,its only my personal opinion and I am sure many will differ with me

Even if India were to be a threat, Bangladesh cannot do anything about it. So, it would be foolish to increase military spending just to face the giant neighbor. Myanmar, on the other hand, has a huge military both in personnel strength and hardware, and therefore, probably spends far more on it than Bangladesh. But then, Burma does so out of its out sense of insecurity.

Bangladesh needs to become diplomatically savvy. Given its increasing exposure in global commerce, the country could position itself very well in the world forum, if it could sharpen its diplomatic skills ... a skill that is greatly lacking.

nayeem007

August 23rd, 2009, 05:34 PM

I don't think we need to increase military expenditure, but we need to continue spending at the current rate. Also, armed forces are the symbol of a soverign country, it is not based on the size of neighboring nations. In that case, Canada does not need to maintain any military force. They cannot compete with either Russia or US and don't have border with any other country.

Also,contrary to popular belief in Bangladesh, Myanmar's army is actually stronger than Bangladesh(their airforce and navy is not). Myanmar has 450,000 active troops compared to only 150,000 for Bangladesh. A significant portion of their budget goes towards military expenditure.Bangladesh needs to ensure that maritime boundary and huge natural resources at Bay of Bengal is protected.

Finally, the armed forces can be used during natural disasters, UN missions and counter insurgency work. It does not need to be confined to full scale war scenarios only..

mirzazeehan

August 23rd, 2009, 06:09 PM

Also,contrary to popular belief in Bangladesh, Myanmar's army is actually stronger than Bangladesh(their airforce and navy is not). Myanmar has 450,000 active troops compared to only 150,000 for Bangladesh. A significant portion of their budget goes towards military expenditure.Bangladesh needs to ensure that maritime boundary and huge natural resources at Bay of Bengal is protected.

^^REALLY??I wonder how a country with such an economy maintains such a big number of troops.However,its good to know that their airpower and navy is worse,which would give us the upper hand in any kind of "potential war".With a better navy,I hope BD will be able to guard its oil resources in the bay of bengal.Btw,how much does myanmar spend on its military every year?I think BD spends slightly above 1 billion US dollars,right?

bd-ottawa

August 23rd, 2009, 06:11 PM

I think BD is going in the right direction....our exports and other foreign currency sources are expected to increase dramatically over the next 5 years...maybe we can think of spending some money on our military then.For now,I dont see India as a threat,and I think "Asia's poorest country,Myanmar" is not in any condition to pose a threat to us either.However,its only my personal opinion and I am sure many will differ with me

Please make sure your opinions are backed up by facts. Whether Myanmar poses a threat to Bangaldesh, that is Debatable but it is a fact that Myanmar not the "poorest" country in Asia. Myanmar’s' per capital GDP is about $1200 USD, slightly below than ours but , and keep in mind that it does not include any foreign remittance. All branches of their military is much more powerful than ours. As for who is the poorest nation in Asia, Most of the Asian nations have moved on to becoming "middle income group" countries, with some exceptions like Bangladesh, Nepal and Myanmar and Afghanistan, would make the top of that list. Apparently, we are the only democracy among those nations.

As for economic growth, After a decade of 5% GDP growth, we find outself out of electricity, Natural resources, food, civil Aircrafts, land, schools, Housing, Transpiration infracture among other things. Now how on earth we are going to achieve 7% to 8% GDP in the next decade?

mirzazeehan

August 23rd, 2009, 06:35 PM

^^The GDP per capita might be slightly less than ours,but keep in mind that their population is wayyyyy smaller.

According to wikipedia,
As for Myanmar's GDP,its 27 bn[nominal] and 68[ppp]
As for Bangladesh's GDP,its 81 bn[nominal] and 224 bn[ppp]

our exports of 15 bn and remittance of 9 bn combined is almost equal to the size of their economy

So even though we lack electricity,schools,roads,etc theres no need to pretend that Bangladesh and Myanmar,Afghanistan are in the same level of economic development.

Dhakaiya

August 23rd, 2009, 07:00 PM

Myanmar is also afflicted by internal rebellions unlike Bangladesh. Any potential war would surely make the DGFI unite these groups and thus pose a strong internal threat to the junta.

King Nothing

August 23rd, 2009, 07:34 PM

Also, I feel that we need to focus on Naval upgrade in order to protect the huge natural resources in Bay of Bengal. Few months back Myanmar started drilling in our territory and only after sending a Frigate they backed down.

This matter is not an act of aggression, it is an outcome of vague contracts about maritime boundaries. I have spoken about this to some foreign ministry officials.

King Nothing

August 23rd, 2009, 07:41 PM

On the contrary King Nothing, BD has one of the lowest military spending in the world. For a comparison BD spends only 1% of its GDP on military compared to other south Asian country's average of 3-5% and the USA's 6% of it GDP.

It is 15% of our budget which is a lot. It participates in UN missions I know but in that case it has become a mercenary force. When was the last time someone from the Army died for our safety? A select group of power hungry people in the army forced dictatorship down our throat for 15 years. Who is to be blamed for the massacres of Mujib and Zia? During the Zia regime countless coups were ruthlessly dealt through summary trials and court marshalls. The army has killed more of their own men than any one else. During the whole of '71 only 55 army officers have died. And that is the only war they ever participated. The conflict that was being long fought in the Hill Tracts is the outcome of a morally wrong policy, engendered by none other than our dictators.

Keep in mind Im not anti-Army. I laud them for saving the country during 1/11 and over the years they have become a more professional force. But we are no Canada or Japan economically, we are fokirs. We need to increase i spending on infrastructure, education and healthcare.

nayeem007

August 23rd, 2009, 07:56 PM

^^ You are mixing politics and technological advancement of armed forces. The 2 are completely different issues. I completely agree that army should not get involved in any sort of politics, but that has nothing to do with modernizing our age old aircrafts of the airforce and frigates of the navy.

Political influence of the army cannot be curbed down by cutting funding from the procurement of high tech defense materials. It has to be done through seperation of state and military through legal and political means. For arguments sake, let's say we stop the purchase of new tanks and aircrafts,how is that going to prevent bunch of rebel army officers from being involved in a military coup? They can do that with their machine guns and rifles..

If spending on military budget related to political influence, then by now US army would have been the most heavily involved in this.

I am not saying that Bangladesh should increase military budget. But we definitely cannot afford to decrease it any more. Already we have one of the most out dated armed force in the region. We don't have any submarine, no modern frigate (other than bangabandhu), our third generation aircraft is limited to less than dozen Mig-29s..

Also, I was not the one to bring in example of Japan. It was in response to the post that said Japan does not spend in military. You can take in example of any developing country like Indonesia, India, Thailand or Vietnam. They all spend a higher percentage of the GDP in military than Bangladesh.

Finally, as I said earlier our Army, Airforce and Navy can be used for supporting relief operation during natural disasters,reducing piracy at Bay of Bengal and safeguarding ofshore resources, constructing infrastructure in remote areas using high tech expertise, participating in UN peacekeeping missions etc.

nayeem007

August 23rd, 2009, 08:04 PM

This matter is not an act of aggression, it is an outcome of vague contracts about maritime boundaries. I have spoken about this to some foreign ministry officials.

Many military agression/conflict arises from misunderstanding of international laws, treaties etc.. It does not necessarily need to start with one country wanting to invade another for expansion.

But the key is, whether we can defend our sovereignty and territorial integrity once that happens. If we are weak, other countries will take advantage of these vague contracts.

nayeem007

August 23rd, 2009, 08:06 PM

http://i731.photobucket.com/albums/ww315/Eagle_Flights/T-55_main_battle_tank_bangladesh_ar.jpg

nayeem007

August 23rd, 2009, 08:10 PM

From Worldbank website:

Bangladesh has consistently allocated its budget in a pro-poor way, injecting substantial public resources into education and health. Bangladesh’s military expenditures are the lowest by far of any country in the region, as a percentage of GDP

http://www.worldbank.org.bd/WBSITE/EXTERNAL/COUNTRIES/SOUTHASIAEXT/BANGLADESHEXTN/0,,contentMDK:20869297~pagePK:141137~piPK:141127~theSitePK:295760,00.html

So, as I was saying, our government does have it's priorities right. The little we spend on armed forces needs to continue in order to keep a viable defense force..

mirzazeehan

August 23rd, 2009, 11:13 PM

So, as I was saying, our government does have it's priorities right. The little we spend on armed forces needs to continue in order to keep a viable defense force..

I completely agree with you bro....I would even support an increase in procurement expenditure once our exports/fdi/remit and forex reserves reach a certain level.

bd-ottawa

August 24th, 2009, 02:37 AM

Good discussion guys. Let me just bring up some point.

First of all, Myanmar has about one third of the population of Bangladesh, so Naturally it’s GDP will be about one third the size of ours. As I stated, their per capital GDP is slightly lower than ours, so I do agree with you economically we are doing better than Myanmar. Congratulations, we have slightly beaten our eastern neighbor in economic terms, who is practically cut off from the rest of the world except China and run by a military dictatorship. .

Now on this forum, some of you suggesting that we should increase our military expenditure because our neighbor is doing so. Well lets’ look at our what’s happening around us: ….

India- Funding billion dollar aircraft carrier/nuclear submarine projects in order to become a superpower. However, india have one the least protected coasts in the region, proven by recent attacks in Mumbai. The situation have not changed much since the attach.

Myanmar: Despite being one of the least developed countries in Pacific Rim, the ruling Military dictatorship is maintaining cold era style large army just to secure its own future.

Pakistan: Have enough funds to purchase latest F-16 ($60 mil each) variants from the US, but does not have enough helicopter ($5-10 mil each) to fight the Taliban. Not to mention, the IMF/US/Worldbank have to bail out the bankrupt Pakistani federal government a quite a few time since the war on terror started. The country is in a bloody civil war and the army keeps brainwashing the population that every thing is normal and the real enemy India.

Nepal: Just ended a bloody civil war, not a military success though.

Sri-Lanka: Successfully ended a 20 year long civil war against the Tamil minority.

We are not in a civil war/arm race situation like our neighbors, so why should we spend like them?

Some of you are suggesting we should fund separatists in Myanmar. Now how would you like if Myanmar funded JMB members to blowing up buses in Dhaka, or the Myanmari army directing artillery fire at Chittagong in retaliation? Let’s just stop sticking our nose into other people’s affairs and that would make us safer than anything else.

The competency of any military does not solely depend on number of soldiers/tanks/aircraft or the size of its defense budget. These things just give a big target to the enemies and boost the ego of the generals. With proper leadership, creative tactics and sheer determination you can take on any enemy on earth.

Israel penetrated the invincible SAM batteries of Golan highest with $5000 UAV’s powered by ordinary lawnmower motors during the first Lebanon war.

Egypt penetrated the 18 meter high impenetrable Israeli Sand wall of Suez canal with ordinary fire hose in 1973 Yam Kippur war.

The Chadian rebels brought the entire Libyan army on its knees with armed pickup trucks.

We can buy all the warships/aircrafts and tanks we wants, if we do not have effective use for them, what good are they? Let me give you an example:

As the ten truck arms smuggling case reveals, our costs are widely open to arms and drug smugglers. The navy wants to purchase heavy hardware like frigates and summaries to protect our territorial waters. AS NATO operations in Somali water proves, big warships are useless against pirates and smugglers in small boats. A smart solution would be equip all Bangladeshi registered boats/ships with RFID tracking chips and monitor them around the clock with UAVs. It is simple yet much more effective than billion dollar submarine/frigates. What would happen to JMP/Shanti banini or street criminals if they find it almost impossible to smuggle foreign weapons via the sea route? All of theses could be done with a $1 rfid chip networked with high tech UAVs costing coting around a million dollar or so.

This is just one of many examples how the defense forces can come out of ordinary cold war era mentality and adapt available off the shelve technology to do their job without blowing up the the national budget.

Please feel free to criticize me if you do not agree with any of my opinions, but please state some facts to back up your arguments.
Thanks.

amar11372

August 24th, 2009, 03:17 AM

I completely agree with you bro....I would even support an increase in procurement expenditure once our exports/fdi/remit and forex reserves reach a certain level.

I would say to keep BD's military spending lowest of any country in the region, as a percentage of GDP for 2-5 decades and go into an alliance with the USA as Europe has done. There is absolutely no reason to spend huge amount to buy shiny military equipments, we cant never compete with India and China, instead BD should start a strategic plan to be have proxy/potential nuclear power, if attacked.

nayeem007

August 24th, 2009, 04:56 AM

We don't need to increase the military budget(as a percentage),but atleast need to keep the current per capita GDP expenditure, which is already one of the lowest in the world, not just South Asia.

Ottowa bro,I don't really understand how RFID technology is going to help our navy. Most of the pirates operating in Bay of Bengal are either Indian or Burmese. How is the Bangladesh government going to enforce tracking technology on them? Also,even if they are Bangladeshi why would pirates even register their boats. 80% of the vehicles in Dhaka city have fake documents and maintaining that for boats used by insurgents and pirates is not practical.

As for Somali pirates, the reason international forces have been relatively unsucessful is because that region is part of Somalia's maritime boundary. And the pirates have save heaven within the nation and can use the harbors freely. But US and the European naval patrols, have been quite successful in securing their own water body using fast patrol crafts. Also the Frigates and submarines is to show our naval strength to neighboring hostile countries like Myanmar, we need to protect our natural resources like offshore gas and oil.

Israel is a dominant power in Middle East solely due their military hardware and technological prowess. They may have entered some place using fire hose etc, but they could not have continued the domination if they did not have heavy artillary and advanced air support(thus they are the highest receipient of US heavy military hardware in the world).

But I do support the idea of making the armed forces more efficient using "light technology" that can be used against insurgents or pirates. But at the same time we need some minimum conventional strength as well ( in terms of tanks, frigates and fighters). We don't need to compete with India or Pakistan, but something that can give use basic defense capability. 1-2 submarines for a country of 160 million and GDP of 80 billion dollars is not a huge expenditure, specially when the Navy is targetting it for 2020.

Finally,I would prefer BD military to maintain few but state of the art weapons than a huge amount of outdated and useless tanks, frigates and fighters from 60s and 70s. I tihnk the best way to do this(without extra budget) is to direct the fund towards procurement instead of increasing number of military personal. It's better to have a professional and modern army of 150,000 than one of 200,000 with middle age equipments.

nayeem007

August 24th, 2009, 05:38 AM

Are submarines Neptune's nightmare?

Iftekhar Ahmed Chowdhury

THE ancient Greek deity Poseidon, or his Roman analogue, Neptune, once ruled the waves with a mere trident as their only weapon. True, being gods, they were able to put it to manifold uses, including wreaking disasters like horrific earthquakes to punish those who incurred their wrath.

Times have since changed. Bereft of divine attributes, those who wish to exercise such control, or come even close to that, now need far more sophisticated weaponry. Nations have replaced those gods and their yearning for command over waters. For a while in history such interests and initiatives lay with the countries of the western hemisphere. That era, too, is bygone. Asia is now coming to the fore.

Its seas will soon be awash with numerous war-waging platforms operating beneath. These will be in the form of the latest versions of submarines. As Asia grows in economic and political significance, it does so militarily also. Prosperity creates interests that need protecting. It includes fruits of development. What better way is there to do this is there than procuring the latest weaponry?

This is where submarines fit in. They run quiet, deep, and travel far. Their sonar signals may do marine biology damage, and even harm the fish, flora and fauna. No matter. To these countries they buttress their sense of security. That is what they tend to accord priority. So the procurements robustly continue.

Unsurprisingly, China is in the lead. It has growing assets to protect. This year a defence budget of $70 billion, the second largest in the world after that of the United States, was announced. A lion's (or, perhaps more appropriately, a whale's) share is to go to the navy, rendering it the fastest growing arm of the Chinese military. It is not hard to fathom why.

The Chinese strategy is expected to shift from "active defence" to "pre-emptive response" by 2020. That implies the capability to fight massive wars in blue water, providing effective support for land operations. This will require many submarines. Already China has them in numbers greater than any other Asian country. These include 10 nuclear-powered vessels, and nearly 60 diesel-electric ones. It is reportedly building a fleet of five nuclear-powered ballistic missile-carrying subs, each capable of launching 12 such missiles. A new submarine base is said to be under construction in Hainan in the South China Sea.

It is an easy guess which country is next: India. India's submarine capability is being rapidly developed, with eyes on China, and glances towards Pakistan. The plan is to develop the ability called "triad" in strategic parlance. This is the capacity to launch nuclear missiles from the air as well as land, which India already has, and now, sea.

To reach that end an Advanced Technology Vessel (ATV) program was created. Under it, India commissioned this July its first indigenously built, though with considerable Russian assistance, nuclear submarine, also capable of launching 12 missiles. Delhi also gave it the fearsome name of Arihant, meaning "destroyer of enemies."

This is unlikely to have a calming effect on Beijing or Islamabad. Six more Scorpene-class submarines are also being built under license. India's blue-water navy is designed to reflect its distant interests, in say the Malacca Straits, where it sees itself as not only a "user state" but also a "funnel state."

Pakistan is struggling to stay relevant. Also, to keeping its powder dry on the ocean floor. Its current fleet comprises French-built platforms; four aging Daphne-class units, two Agosta-70 boats, and two modern Agosta-90 B subs, the second of the latter is under construction and fitted with an air-independent propulsion system that will allow it to remain submerged longer, though nowhere near the capability of a nuclear submarine. There are also four Italian-designed midget submarines being built.

Earlier this year Admiral Noman Bashir said that "sub-surface defence capabilities" would be strengthened. He was perhaps referring to three Type-214 submarines being ordered from Germany. Pakistan badly requires the capability of having some of its subs carry a part of its nuclear arsenal. This is necessary for better concealment and more effective deterrence. But it is likely to remain an unfulfilled aspiration for the near future.

For Bangladesh, access to the oceans via the Bay of Bengal is of utmost strategic importance. The spat with Yangon in November 2008 over a rig placed by Myanmar for exploration purposes in territorial waters claimed by Bangladesh was a "wake-up call" for Dhaka. The media has reported the Bangladesh navy as having an ambitious ten-year plan to upgrade itself into a "three-dimensional" force, which, understandably, would include the purchase of a submarine by 2019, a project, which is said to have "approval in principle" of the government. This is only logical. The Myanmar navy has grown enormously since 1988, mostly with Chinese help. It now seeks blue water capability. Addition of submarines is, therefore, only a matter of time.

Other South-East Asians are not lagging behind. The largest of them all, Indonesia, is also vying for the largest fleet, planning to buy 12 before 2024, strengthening its current insufficient number of two German made Cakra-class vessels. Singapore was very much in the news lately for its procurement of two Archer-class submarines from Sweden, upgraded, refurbished, modernised, and tropicalised. These will enable it to retire some old Challenger-class boats.

Malaysia has also acquired its first Scorpene submarine from France, with a second due later this year. Besides, South Korea is constructing under license from Germany three Type-214 platforms with options on six more. Somewhat wary, Australia brought out a "Defence White Paper" recently, looking to double the number of its submarines from 6 to 12 by 2030.

So, in a few decades, many steel-fish with missile-teeth will be prowling the Asian waters. Analysts like Raja Mohan see this phenomenon as an Asian penchant for classical notions of power as symbolised by earlier naval strategists like Admiral Mahan, just when the West is gripped with post-modern fascination for norms and institutions!

However, Asian submarines need not become Neptune's nightmare. There are at least three main reasons why not. First, because a sub-launched missile is less accurate, it is not to be used as a "first strike" weapon but only for retaliatory actions, which renders it stabilising. Second, the procurements do not alter existing balance of power. And third, coordinated measures can enhance security, such as vis-à-vis rogue non-state actors. What can be useful is a "Big Tent" conference of all stake-holders to exchange information, and calibrate actions. All this will put to test Asia's wisdom and maturity. It is yet another challenge that Asia will need to work together to overcome.

http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=100121

nayeem007

August 24th, 2009, 05:40 AM

Air Force aims higher
Seeks major purchases by 2021
Shakhawat LitonBangladesh Air Force seeks to urgently purchase one squadron of fighter trainer aircraft and simulators for fighter planes and helicopters, and set up overhauling plants for the existing F-7 fighter planes and MI series helicopters.

It has prepared long-term plans for other major defence purchases by 2021 and beyond to modernise the force, discloses a report of the air force. It also seeks either 10 percent increase in budgetary allocation or special allocation for the next 10 years to achieve the target.

The report, which describes the problems the air force is facing and suggests ways to overcome them, was placed before the parliamentary standing committee on defence ministry on July 14 for discussion.

The Daily Star has obtained a copy of the report.

The plans include purchasing of air defence radars and surface-to-air missile systems to protect important establishments of the force, replacement of A-5, FT-5 and F-7 fighter planes and induction of aircraft for airborne early warning, a system used for directing fighters to targets and counter attacks.

The air force also seeks to turn Cox's Bazar into an advanced base to increase the force's operational capability, approval of an organogram of the Kurmitola base, increase in healthcare facility for the force members and proper steps regarding their salaries and allowances.

The air force suggested that the purchases be completed in phases by 2021.

After 2021, it wants to begin purchasing aircraft in phases to form three air defence squadrons. An air force squadron typically consists of three or four air units, with a total of 12 to 24 aircraft, depending on the type of aircraft and the air force.

In defence of the plans, the report says Bangladesh needs a five-layer strong air defence system to protect its airspace from enemy air attacks.

The mission of Bangladesh Air Force is: "To prepare, operate and maintain an air force capable of projecting air power in order to uphold and promote our national interest", as drafted in light of the responsibilities and duties assigned by the government.

"The air force is proceeding with the dream to build a digital air force keeping consistency with the honourable prime minister's vision," the report says.

It says the budgetary allocation for the air force has been decreased in the last two financial years.

The allocation was increased to 20.90 percent of the total defence budget in FY 2005-06 from 18.56 percent in 2004-05. In FY 2006-07, the air force was given 20.97 percent of the total defence budget. But the allocation was decreased to 15.57 percent in FY 2007-08 and 15.11 percent in FY 2008-09.

In the report, the air force has demanded either 25 percent of the total defence budget or a special allocation in the next 10 years.

Most of the budgetary allocation is spent for maintenance, salaries and allowances, supplies and services and instalments of previous purchases. Only 4-6 percent of it is spent for major purchases, the report says.

In defence of purchasing new equipment, the report says it is facing tremendous difficulties in playing due role with the aged aircraft
The force has over 160 planes--fighter, transport and training aircraft--and helicopters, of which 70 percent are aged over 20 years and 18 percent inducted in the last 10 years, says the report..

It says the air force has planned to set up overhauling plants for the existing F-7 fighter planes and MI helicopters. If two plants are set up in the country, two to three F-7 aircraft and three to four MI choppers could be overhauled each year and will not require sending abroad.

The air force has so far overhauled Bell helicopters 65 times and PT-6 planes 76 times at its own maintenance unit. In the last two years, five fighter aircraft were overhauled in the country with the help of foreign consultants, the report says.

http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=100567

King Nothing

August 24th, 2009, 04:16 PM

I would say to keep BD's military spending lowest of any country in the region, as a percentage of GDP for 2-5 decades and go into an alliance with the USA as Europe has done. There is absolutely no reason to spend huge amount to buy shiny military equipments, we cant never compete with India and China, instead BD should start a strategic plan to be have proxy/potential nuclear power, if attacked.

I agree with this and that is why I brought up examples of Japan, Costa Rica and Panama. All protected by the US. Can anyone tell me what Japans military spending as a percentage of GDP is?

The reason Im critical of the military is because of what it has done in the past. I have grown up with kids of military personnel who were spoilt brats and led luxury lives partying, drinking and showing off a lot. There is corruption in the military and a lot of officers retire and go into business with their embezzeled funds. Lots of politicans from both BAL and BNP are also ex-army officers. I have lived in the DOHS area in the past and know what sort of stuff they can be upto. At the same time it is very difficult to get into the military being a minority. They have some quotas I believe for Chakmas and tribals but it is very difficult to get in if ur Xtian Hindu or BUddhist. And for the air force it is totally impossible (this is true and not made up).

I hope all these plans for "digital airforce" doesnt lead to embezzlement of funds or increases military soendng anymore.

nayeem007

August 24th, 2009, 07:06 PM

^^ Corruption within military and handling of minority has nothing to do with modernizing the armed forces,those will continue even if we use rifles and tanks from second world war era.

It's like saying, since there is so much corruption in the business sector in Bangladesh (Salman F Rahman, Bashundhara chairman etc), let us stop focusing on industrialization. Afterall,their children are also spoiled brats, partying, drinking and showing off all the time..

Another example would be Biman, half the money on procurement is embezzeled. But does that mean, we should not try to buy any new aircrafts for our national carrier?

I agree 100% that army should be removed from politics, corruption should be reduced, but these activities does not need to come at the cost of modernization of radar, aircrafts etc.

Finally,we don't need to increase our defense budget, but we cannot afford to decrease it, since we are already using very outdated equipments and spend the lowest in terms of percentage of GDP in the whole region (Pakistan and Srilanka spends around 4% and India 2.5-3%, we really don't need to spend that much since we have no major conflicts, but around 1% is justifiable). Strategic partnership comes at a cost, if we choose to work with China, India will not be happy and will start causing trouble in the bordering areas. If we have partnership with India, China will stop funding our major infrastructure projects..

Manazir

August 24th, 2009, 08:42 PM

^^
agreed :)

bd-ottawa

August 25th, 2009, 03:33 AM

Ottowa bro,I don't really understand how RFID technology is going to help our navy. Most of the pirates operating in Bay of Bengal are either Indian or Burmese. How is the Bangladesh government going to enforce tracking technology on them? Also,even if they are Bangladeshi why would pirates even register their boats. 80% of the vehicles in Dhaka city have fake documents and maintaining that for boats used by insurgents and pirates is not practical.

But US and the European naval patrols, have been quite successful in securing their own water body using fast patrol crafts. Also the Frigates and submarines is to show our naval strength to neighboring hostile countries like Myanmar, we need to protect our natural resources like offshore gas and oil.

Israel is a dominant power in Middle East solely due their military hardware and technological prowess. They may have entered some place using fire hose etc, but they could not have continued the domination if they did not have heavy artillary and advanced air support
Let me answer some of the points you brought up….

You are exactly, adding RFID tracking chips does not stop foreign or local pirates to getting into our territorial waters. To do that you need to track your entire maritime boundary around the clock. And the best way to do that is to deploy UAV’s equipped with with maritime survalance radar and E-O/IR sensors. The RFID works like u electronics license plate. If any boats/ships enters in our territorial waters without the RFID chip, you track them with your E-O/IR sensors, and deploy search parties on helicopters/fast attack crafts if necessary.

Now let me ask you a question, if you had to choose between submarines and the UAV based maritime surveillance due to budget constrains, what would you choose?

King Nothing

August 25th, 2009, 12:24 PM

Strategic partnership comes at a cost, if we choose to work with China, India will not be happy and will start causing trouble in the bordering areas. If we have partnership with India, China will stop funding our major infrastructure projects..

I agree with the rest of your post hence I am adressing this point. Why not a strategic partnership with the US and make them responsible for our defense? :)

nayeem007

August 25th, 2009, 10:49 PM

I agree with the rest of your post hence I am adressing this point. Why not a strategic partnership with the US and make them responsible for our defense? :)

It's going to be even harder for Bangladesh to make large scale partnership with US (where they are allowed to create military and naval bases), since then both China and India will be upset by the move. Neither of them will want to see US influence in their corridor increasing any further..

Infact we already know about this situation, as in the past US treaties like HANA were rejected by the Bangladesh government(both BNP and BAL).

nayeem007

August 25th, 2009, 10:56 PM

Let me answer some of the points you brought up….

You are exactly, adding RFID tracking chips does not stop foreign or local pirates to getting into our territorial waters. To do that you need to track your entire maritime boundary around the clock. And the best way to do that is to deploy UAV’s equipped with with maritime survalance radar and E-O/IR sensors. The RFID works like u electronics license plate. If any boats/ships enters in our territorial waters without the RFID chip, you track them with your E-O/IR sensors, and deploy search parties on helicopters/fast attack crafts if necessary.

Now let me ask you a question, if you had to choose between submarines and the UAV based maritime surveillance due to budget constrains, what would you choose?

Thanks for the explanation. I agree that the Navy can use smart technology like RFID to augment surveillance capability. But we also need to modernize our patrol crafts and gunboats in order to intercept the pirates. The RFID can only be used as a detection mechanism,we need somebody in the ground to actually perform these operations (if we use old outdated light crafts from 70s, then the pirates will be long gone by the time response team is sent).

Also submarines are never meant for pirates, they are for Naval superiority over Myanmar since offshore gas and oil resources are becoming increasingly important. Just yesterday Bangladesh government, signed up 2 gas exploration contracts for around 100 million dllars. There could potentially be billions of dollars worth of gas at Bay of Bengal. Infact if we have modern frigates and submarines, even a regional power like India will think twice before attacking (since it's not just about how strong their overall Navy is compared to ours, it's about naval force dedicted in our region after allocating resources to face off China and Pakistan).

An article from today's Bengali newspaper says that India and Myanmar have claimed 22,000 sq nautical miles out of Bangladesh's 29,000 sq mile maritime boundary. It also discusses how BD government is loosing millions in potential revenue as they are unable to award contracts to oil companies in those regions due to claims by neighboring nations.

http://www.dailyinqilab.com/

Some talk about getting international bodies involved to resolve disputes like this. But as history has shown it is all about power and influence not diplomacy. Thus India has not faced any international sanctions even after not holding plebicite in Kashmir in the last 50 years, even though mandated by UN. Israel has bombed and killed thousands of civilians in Palestine, Lebanon ignoring all kind of UN resolutions. In Bangladeshi context, India also created farrakah dam without any kind of understanding with our government,impacting lives of millions of people. More recently they are creating Tipamukh dam, let's see how much influence UN or International community has on this. If we are not economically AND militarily strong ourselves, no one is going to heed our problems and issues.

The last standoff with Myanmar at Bay of Bengal was only resolved after Bangladesh sent 2 frigates at the oil drilling location as stated by the following AFP report. Before that, Myanmar was not even willing to discuss on this issue and continued drilling..
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gdvMF48AY7_dxupc7VJtQkiRinawD9A9UO800

mirzazeehan

August 25th, 2009, 11:56 PM

^^
Also important to remember that,India being a giant should not act as a disincentive for us to increase military spending in the future.This is because we should have a military with an ability to cause its enemies enough damage,that they dont seek to engage in wars for small gains,or just because they are powerful.You know,regardless of our size and sheer strength,we humans would always think twice before putting our finger in the way of a "lal pipra",and not think at all about doing the same when it comes to a "kalo pipra":lol:
Hope you get the message

King Nothing

August 26th, 2009, 06:49 AM

Manazir

August 26th, 2009, 09:22 AM

^^
There is no reason for China to attack us in the first place, and also India during this govt's period!

Dhakaiya

August 26th, 2009, 10:40 AM

So you think if India or China attacked us our army could do anything?

Not even close to defeating them but killing enough of any attacker to make them think twice before attacking us.

King Nothing

August 26th, 2009, 11:30 AM

Not even close to defeating them but killing enough of any attacker to make them think twice before attacking us.

Really? Both are Nuclear Powers and we would have to fight till death just inflict minor damage. If China attacked India they would have to fight till death as well to even think of being able to make any significant damage.

nayeem007

August 26th, 2009, 03:43 PM

So you think if India or China attacked us our army could do anything?

Not in a conventional war for sur. Strategically China has nothing to gain from attacking Bangladesh (we have no disputed territories, no water sharing issue, no conflict in interest at Bay of Bengal, heck we don't even have a common border with them).

As for India,if they think about occupying Bangladeshi territories or annexing some areas to their country(which is also very unlikely but may be possible if water share or natural resource issue at Bay of Bengal gets out of control), it is a very different ball game. As seen in Afghanistan by Soviets and in Vietnam by the US army, things are not so simple once you get into guerilla warfare. 2 world super powers(much stronger than either India or China) lost miserably. Infact Soviets even had border with Afghanistan at that time, since the central asian countries were part of the union.

mirzazeehan

August 26th, 2009, 04:04 PM

Really? Both are Nuclear Powers and we would have to fight till death just inflict minor damage. If China attacked India they would have to fight till death as well to even think of being able to make any significant damage.

Densely populated indian towns are within firing range from bangladeshi borders.....if BD acquires the technology to make some hits,it would definitely make their govt. think twice before attacking for no reason,or before attacking for small gains.I personally do not believe that India will ever attack Bangladesh,but taking extra protection cant hurt.

mirzazeehan

August 26th, 2009, 04:10 PM

Densely populated indian towns are within firing range from bangladeshi borders.....if BD acquires the technology to make some hits,it would definitely make their govt. think twice before attacking for no reason,or before attacking for small gains.I personally do not believe that India will ever attack Bangladesh,but taking extra protection cant hurt.
To be honest I am happy that BD is surrounded by India by three sides,instead of having borders with unstable neighbors like Burma or Pakistan.

amar11372

August 26th, 2009, 10:39 PM

^^ Unfortunately, the Indian areas that surround Bangladesh is quite unstable and economically laggard, except West Bengal.

mirzazeehan

August 26th, 2009, 11:51 PM

^^ Unfortunately, the Indian areas that surround Bangladesh is quite unstable and economically laggard, except West Bengal.

I know,but at least we do not expect Bin Laden[or the taliban] to drop by through the borders[as cud have happened if pakistan was our neighbor],and neither should we be expecting lakhs of refugees coming over to bd cause they are being killed by their own military[as is the case with Burma]

nayeem007

October 8th, 2009, 04:46 AM

Bangladesh steps up troops deployment on Myanmar border amid row

Amid growing diplomatic tension between Bangladesh and Myanmar, Dhaka has reinforced troops deployment along the border with its eastern neighbour as it protested against erecting of a border fence by Yangon.

The border guard Bangladesh Rifles has cancelled all but essential leaves as tension mounted along the Naikhyangchhari border in Bandarban after Myanmar resumed border fencing on Friday. Myanmar also reinforced army deployment on its side of the border.

The Home Ministry asked the Director General of the Bangladesh Rifles to keep their forces "on alert" along the border.

"Troop deployment in the border has been reinforced and all but essential leaves of BDR personnel have been cancelled," Major General Mohammad Mainul Islam, Director General of the Bangladesh Rifles, was quoted as saying by the New Age newspaper on Wednesday.

Islam said BDR troops had been deployed along sensitive areas in the border and other preparation had also been made.

Dhaka may need to resume diplomatic efforts to stop intrusion of Myanmar citizens into the Bangladesh territory seeking shelter or employment, a home ministry official said, adding intrusion into Bangladesh was damaging the country's overseas labour market and reputation of its workers.

"Most of the illegal migrant workers, including boatmen in Cox’s Bazar, Bandarban and other places along the Bangladesh coast are Myanmar citizens," a source said, quoting an intelligence agency report.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/B-desh-steps-up-troops-deployment-on-Myanmar-border-amid-row/H1-Article1-462361.aspx#

dopekhor

October 8th, 2009, 07:44 AM

if myanmar is building a fence isnt it good for us? that way people cant sneak in! i wonder why dont they sneak into india or china!

nayeem007

October 8th, 2009, 07:51 AM

if myanmar is building a fence isnt it good for us?

depends on where they are building the fence, if it's in neutral or Bangladeshi territory it is an issue as it's a violation of International law. If they are building it on their side of the border it should be okay..

dopekhor

October 8th, 2009, 08:01 AM

depends on where they are building the fence, if it's in neutral or Bangladeshi territory it is an issue as it's a violation of International law. If they are building it on their side of the border it should be okay..
where are they building it do you have any knowledge on this? if so please do share!

nayeem007

October 8th, 2009, 08:13 AM

where are they building it do you have any knowledge on this? if so please do share!

No idea, google is the best bet for you on this..

TIslam

October 9th, 2009, 12:47 AM

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=105709922

nayeem007

October 12th, 2009, 03:16 PM

Bangladesh earns over $1.29 bln from UN peacekeeping

DHAKA, Oct. 12 (Xinhua) -- Bangladesh earned more than 90.6 billion taka (about 1.29 billion U.S. dollars) from UN peacekeeping jobs in the last 2008-09 fiscal year (July 2008-June 2009), Foreign Minister Dipu Moni told the parliament Monday.

Presently Bangladeshi blue helmets are engaged in 12 peacekeeping missions in 11 countries.The countries are: Ivory Coast, Liberia, Sudan, Congo, West Sahara, Timor, Georgia, Chad, Burundi, Afghanistan and West Africa.

Presently, around 10,000 Bangladeshi troops and 1,500 policemen are engaged in different peacekeeping missions around the world.

Bangladesh has been doing the job since 1988 and so far contributed over 80,000 soldiers and policemen.

Bangladesh is now the second largest UN peace troop contributor after Pakistan.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-10/12/content_12218671.htm

nayeem007

November 28th, 2009, 06:26 PM

Bangladesh Armed Forces Activities in 2009

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nayeem007

April 13th, 2010, 03:17 PM

Navy gets 16 defender boats from US

The United States on Tuesday donated sixteen 25-foot (eight meter) Defender Class Boats to Bangladesh Navy aiming to enhance counter-terrorism abilities.

According to the US embassy in Dhaka, the US government provided the boats at Bangladesh's request to improve the ability of Bangladesh Navy and the Coast Guard to disrupt criminal organizations and transnational terrorist groups seeking to exploit Bangladesh’s maritime borders.

The US government would also donate five additional boats to Bangladesh Coast Guard, said a press release of the embassy. This donation is the largest delivery of U.S. Coast Guard boats to any nation.

US Ambassador in Dhaka James F Moriarty and Bangladesh Assistant Chief of Naval Staff for Operations Rear Admiral MF Habib presided over the formal handover ceremony of the 16 defender class boats in Chittagong.

These first sixteen boats will significantly improve the maritime interdiction and counter-terrorism capabilities of Bangladesh’s new Navy Special Operations Force at the Navy Special Warfare Diving and Salvage Command.

The United States and Bangladesh will conduct several joint exercises in the coming months to train Bangladesh Navy and Coast Guard sailors on how to effectively utilize this important new law enforcement and counter-terrorism tool.

These boats are part of a long history of close cooperation between the US and Bangladesh. The United States will continue to support the Bangladesh's efforts to protect its maritime borders.

This donation demonstrates the United States Government’s commitment to Bangladesh and to regional security by promoting military-to-military relationships throughout Asia and the Pacific, the embassy release added.

http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/latest_news.php?nid=23187

samaruf

April 13th, 2010, 04:17 PM

TIslam

April 13th, 2010, 06:49 PM

^^ Ekhono bhikari. Why can't our govt. buy these boats using the huge amount of money at the disposal of the the armed forces? If we need to get charitable stuff, I'd readily take a power station or two.
Right on! The PM speaks about building a world class defense force (read just the other day about her intention to build a world class navy), yet they don't seem to have enough of hand me downs.

nayeem007

April 17th, 2010, 09:59 PM

Bangladesh navy to purchase survey ship from UK

Bangladesh has almost finalized a deal with the UK to buy an ocean survey ship for Tk 55 crore [one crore is 10 million] against the background of disputes over oil and gas exploration in the Bay of Bengal with India and Myanmar [Burma].

Officials of the finance ministry told the New Age last week that the Bangladesh Navy had sought Tk 55 crore, equivalent to five million pounds, to buy a hydrographic survey vessel from the Royal Navy of the UK, and they are dealing with the matter on a priority basis.

Bangladesh, an impoverished country which can meet only two- thirds of the demand for gas and electricity, needs to enhance the number of surveys and exploration activities in the Bay for its energy security.

Besides, Bangladesh needs sufficient data to establish its claim on the country's maritime boundary it is sandwiched between India and Myanmar in the upper part of the Bay which is thought to have considerable deposits of hydrocarbon.

Bangladesh registered its objections with the United Nations to the claims of India and Myanmar in 2009 as it had disputes over territorial waters in the Bay with both the countries in two areas - natural prolongation of the continental shelf and the baseline.

At present, the country is carrying out a seismic survey in the Bay under the United Nations Convention of the Law of the Seas at a cost of more then Tk 50 crore.

The survey is being implanted by the foreign affairs ministry which is dealing with the case against India in the UN tribunal. Dhaka has already estimated that it would require Tk 80 crore to finance the legal battle against India in the UN in the next eight years.

The purchase of the hydrographic survey vessel is a part of the government's mega-plan for making the Bangladesh Navy a 'three- dimensional' force which can operate underwater, on the surface and in the air.

Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina last week, while adressing the officers and sailors at the Naval Headquarters, revealed that two more frigates would be added to the Navy soon.

Initiatives have taken to buy a hydrographic survey ship from the UK and to equip two large patrol boats with missiles made by China, she said, adding that agreements for the purchase of two helicopters and the same number of offshore patrol boats from the UK were in the final stage.
Originally published by New Age website, Dhaka, in English 17 Apr 10.

(c) 2010 BBC Monitoring South Asia. Provided by ProQuest LLC. All rights Reserved.

http://www.interconnectionworld.com/index/display/wire-news-display/143855889.html

Manazir

May 25th, 2010, 07:43 AM

By The Way guys,

in the upcoming budget, over $1.8 billion may be allocated for the defence sector. So far, they are considering to purchase 14x MiG-29s (again--- each costing about $15 mn) , 4x Guided Missile Frigates from China, and Buk SAM systems from Russia.

King Nothing

May 25th, 2010, 03:34 PM

in the upcoming budget, over $1.8 billion may be allocated for the defence sector.

What a waste of money!

Manazir

May 25th, 2010, 08:06 PM

^^
the budget may be over $18 bn so i guess its not that bad spending on defence, and u gotta spend that to build up a good defence against the enemies!

TIslam

May 25th, 2010, 08:58 PM

What a waste of money!
Couldn't agree more.

TIslam

May 25th, 2010, 08:59 PM

^^
the budget may be over $18 bn so i guess its not that bad spending on defence, and u gotta spend that to build up a good defence against the enemies!
What enemies? That 18 billion is better spent on education.

nayeem007

May 25th, 2010, 09:44 PM

King Nothing

May 25th, 2010, 10:16 PM

But I do think investment in our country's defence is important in order to protect our sovereignty and maritime resources (oil, gas).

No point defending them if ur gonna hand them over to International oil companies anyway!

Manazir

May 25th, 2010, 10:18 PM

King Nothing

May 25th, 2010, 10:35 PM

yeah 1.8 bn for defence sector only,

god knows how much is gonna go into the pockets of ministers and army officers.

Manazir

May 25th, 2010, 10:45 PM

god knows how much is gonna go into the pockets of ministers and army officers.

*sigh*

thats the problem!!

TIslam

May 26th, 2010, 05:46 AM

I think Manazir meant 1.8 billion not 18 billion dollars.. as for enemies they are all within our country, BAL and BNP-- and you don't need missiles to fight them! :lol:

But I do think investment in our country's defence is important in order to protect our sovereignty and maritime resources (oil, gas). I was watching an interview of the Singaporean Prime Minister in CSPAN few weeks back and he mentioned how the Singaporean government focused a lot on country's defense forces during the early days of it's development. Many opposed spending on army and airforce during late 60s and 70s because they were only a developing country, but on the long run the strong armed forces beneffited them as bigger countries like Malaysia and Indonesia could not push their own agenda to Singapore..
Makes sense but there is a significant difference between Bangladesh and a country like Singapore. Singapore has never been dirt poor like Bangladesh. Moreover, Singapore's two neighbors were probably at par, as far as defense is concerned when to began spending on military infrastructure and equipment. Today, of course, Indonesia is far behind Malaysia and Singapore. Bangladesh, on the other hand, is in a no win situation because it can never catch up let alone match India's defense capability. Ditto Burma, since the military junta isn't answerable to anybody, they can squander away all their wealth on defense.

If Bangladesh feels that it needs to be able to defend its homeland, no matter what, perhaps they ought to adopt the Swiss model where every able bodied man is a "stand by" soldier.

nayeem007

May 26th, 2010, 06:05 AM

Makes sense but there is a significant difference between Bangladesh and a country like Singapore. Singapore has never been dirt poor like Bangladesh. Moreover, Singapore's two neighbors were probably at par, as far as defense is concerned when to began spending on military infrastructure and equipment. Today, of course, Indonesia is far behind Malaysia and Singapore. Bangladesh, on the other hand, is in a no win situation because it can never catch up let alone India's defense capability. Ditto Burma, since the the military junta isn't answerable to anybody, they can squander away all their wealth on defense.

If Bangladesh feels that it needs to be able to defend its homeland, no matter what, perhaps they ought to adopt the Swiss model where every able bodied man is a "stand by" soldier.

^^ Good point..

Manazir

May 26th, 2010, 08:18 AM

If Bangladesh feels that it needs to be able to defend its homeland, no matter what, perhaps they ought to adopt the Swiss model where every able bodied man is a "stand by" soldier.

thats in Iran aswell.

saad_hawk

May 28th, 2010, 08:57 PM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/Milgem4.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/57/Milgem3.jpg

According to a CNN Türk news report on September 27, 2008, the navies of Canada, Pakistan, Ukraine and a number of South American countries have expressed interest in acquiring MİLGEM class warships.[4] The Pakistan Navy will acquire 4 Milgem class corvettes over a 10-year program, of which 3 will be manufactured in local shipyards.[5] The Bangladesh Navy plans to eventually induct 12 to 16 MİLGEM class guided missile corvettes with at least 4 vessels inducted over the next 10 years. The vessels of Bangladesh will be constructed at the Khulna Shipyard (KSY) which is owned and operated by the Bangladesh Navy.[6]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgem#Ada_class_corvette_.2F_F-100_class_frigate

Now thats what i m talkin about.

Manazir

May 28th, 2010, 09:15 PM

^^
these Milgem corvettes are gonna be one of the best warships in the world, i hope we can produce at least 8 of them:)

saad_hawk

May 29th, 2010, 12:28 AM

^^
these Milgem corvettes are gonna be one of the best warships in the world, i hope we can produce at least 8 of them:)

I hear ya on that. i just hope Bangladesh starts buying more weapons from Turkey, because they are so advance in weapons technology and of course, it will help our fellow Muslim countries economy.

saad_hawk

May 29th, 2010, 12:31 AM

Manazir

May 29th, 2010, 08:07 AM

^^
haha bro you got those from wiki :D

do u know about BMF forum? thats the most reliable source and from there, they wrote those on wiki :)

soumodeep

June 20th, 2010, 10:58 AM

bangladeshi military looks pretty good, neat stuff!

nayeem007

July 9th, 2010, 06:38 PM

Bangladesh now number one peacekeeper contributing country
BSS, Dhaka

Bangladesh has become the number one peacekeeper sending country to the UN missions with 10,855 peacekeepers as Pakistan came down to the second position.

"A total of 10,855 personnel of the armed forces and law- enforcement agencies are now working as peacekeepers at different UN peacekeeping mission which is the highest for any country to date," Air Marshal Shah M Ziaur Rahman apprised the President when he called on him at Bangabhaban here.

During the meeting, the Air Chief informed the President that he will leave here on July 14 for London on an invitation of the British Air Chief to attend a conference of air chiefs of different countries there.

Air Marshal Rahman said he would have meetings with air chiefs of other countries, including the British Royal Air Chief, on the sidelines of the conference.

The Air Chief also apprised the President that a C-130 cargo aircraft of Bangladesh Air Force has been deployed in Congo under UN peacekeeping mission for the first time.

The Air Chief also informed the President that the efficiency and operational activities of Bangladesh Air Force have been increased due to constructive measures taken by the present government.

President Zillur Rahman gave him a patient hearing and hoped that the upcoming UK visit of the Air Chief would further strengthen the bilateral relations between the two friendly countries.

The President hoped that all Bangladeshi peacekeepers in UN missions would uphold the country's image with utmost sincerity and devotion to their responsibilities.

The President also expressed his satisfaction over the constructive role of Bangladesh Air Force in different nation building activities and hoped that the government's efforts in modernization of the Air Force would continue in the days to come.

http://www.ittefaq.com/issues/2010/07/09/news0737.htm

samaruf

July 11th, 2010, 05:09 AM

Bangladesh now number one peacekeeper contributing country

My brother-in-law spent two stints in the UN peacekeeping force(Sierra Leone and South Sudan) and I heard from him that Bangladeshi peace keepers are held in very high regard by the locals. They are very professional and also coming from a poor county are more humane unlike the patronizing attitude of peace keepers from developed countries.

nayeem007

October 20th, 2010, 06:13 AM

http://www.armyrecognition.com/images/stories/asia/bangladesh/ranks_uniforms/uniforms/pictures/Bangladesh_army_soldier_combat_uniforms_001.jpg

nayeem007

October 20th, 2010, 06:18 AM

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Bangladesh Airforce

nayeem007

October 20th, 2010, 06:23 AM

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Bangladesh Navy-Durgam Kandari

nayeem007

October 20th, 2010, 06:25 AM

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Bangladesh Army

nayeem007

February 9th, 2011, 07:14 PM

One more warship joins Bangladesh Navy fleet

http://www.thefinancialexpress-bd.com/images/news_image_2011-02-08_18722.jpg
New warship BNS Dhaleshwari seen at New Mooring Naval Jetty in Chittagong Monday.
FE Report

A new warship BNS Dhaleshwari procured from United Kingdom (UK) arrived New Mooring Naval Jetty in Chittagong Monday, according to an ISPR press release.
BNS Dhaleshwari is a modern castle class warship was named HMS Leads Castle in British Royal Navy.

The ship had been engaged in Falkland Islands as guard ship and also in protection duties of internal sea resources of UK.

The ship was officially handed over to Bangladesh Navy on May 07, 2010 in Portsmouth, UK.

Later, necessary modernisation works were done in UK and finally the ship, led by Commanding Officer Captain M Khaled Iqbal, BN headed to Bangladesh on December 16, 2010.

The Government of Bangladesh has planed to turn Bangladesh Navy into a modern, more effective and three dimensional one. Procuring BNS Dhaleshwari from UK is one of the steps for implementing government's plan.

As BNS Dhaleshwari possesses helicopter facilities, Bangladesh Navy will be capable to strengthen her activities for protecting sea resources and security of the establishments in the coastal areas.

A good number of naval personnel including their family members of Chittagong Area Naval Command welcomed BNS Dhaleshwari with naval traditions on its arrival at Chittagong Naval Jetty after 54 days of its journey.

http://www.thefinancialexpress-bd.com/more.php?news_id=125424&date=2011-02-08

nayeem007

February 12th, 2011, 11:14 PM

http://www.espncricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/128100/128155.jpg

http://www.espncricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/128100/128156.jpg

TIslam

February 13th, 2011, 12:54 AM

^^
Mock hostage rescue mission? In preparation for WC?

nayeem007

February 13th, 2011, 05:03 AM

^^
Mock hostage rescue mission? In preparation for WC?

Yup!

Bangladesh Army Commandos as Striking Force during Cricket WC
BSS, DhakaSunday, 02.13.2011, 09:16am (GMT)

A team comprising special commandos and members of 46 Independent Infantry Brigade of Bangladesh Army to be reserved as striking force along with deployment of Rapid Action Battalion (RAB) and police during the world cup matches to tackle any emergency in Dhaka.
Choppers of Bangladesh Air Force and Army Aviation would provide support to the striking force, if required, an ISPR press release said in Dhaka on Saturday.
Bangladesh is one of the co-hosts of the World Cup Cricket beginning from February 17 at Bangabandhu National Stadium. Tigers will be playing in the inaugural match against India on February 19 at Sher-e-Bangla Stadium in Mirpur. Apart from the inaugural match, another seven matches will be held in the capital and port city Chittagong.
A mock security drill of police, RAB and the reserved striking force was held on Saturday at the Sher-e-Bangla Stadium at Mirpur aimed at ensuring foolproof security to players and spectators.
The mock drill was held to examine the final preparation as well as coordination of the forces, the press release said.
Commander of 46 Independent Infantry Brigade Brigadier General M S Motiur Rahman led the mock drill while concerned officers of Police and RAB provided cooperation to the army members to conduct the rehearsal.
After the drill, Brigadier General said the Bangladesh army is firmly committed to perform the responsibility, bestow upon them, to uphold the Bangladesh pride as one of the host country of World Cup Cricket, the release added.

http://www.energybangla.com/index.php?mod=article&cat=ICCWorldCupSpecial&article=3069

manbil777

July 30th, 2011, 10:31 PM

New Ad (Commercial) some weeks ago for Army recruitment. Looks good!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLMDHDA58go&feature=related

TIslam

December 19th, 2011, 03:52 PM

http://www.domain-b.com/aero/mil_avi/mil_aircraft/images%5Cdornier_228-NG_Blade_gross_domain-b.jpg

Bangladesh Navy yesterday showcased a maritime patrol aircraft similar to what the force is to add to its just-budding air wing aiming at enhanced surveillance in the country's maritime boundary.

The Dornier 228NG model aircraft manufactured by RUAG Aerospace Services of Germany stopped in Dhaka on its way to Germany after it had taken part in an international aircraft exhibition in Malaysia.

It was put on display at Kurmitola air base of Bangladesh Air Force to give the high military officials and reporters an idea of the aircraft.

The Navy signed a contract with RUAG in June to procure two Dornier maritime patrol aircraft and the delivery is due in two years.

Thomas Imke, RUAG's sales director in South Asia, who flew with the aircraft, said that the aircraft manufactured with state-of-the-art technology is suitable for maritime surveillance on illegal activities, rescue operations and pollution control.

It can fly a length of 1,200 nautical miles at a stretch at 235 nautical mile speed per hour. The speed may be slowed down to 75 nautical miles for surveillance. It can carry a load of 2,000kg and has the endurance to fly nine hours.

Performance wise, Dornier is one of the best maritime aircraft, said Imke, the company has so far sold 250 of it both for passenger and cargo transport across the world.

Minimum price of the aircraft is 6.2 million Euros and goes up depending on additional features, he said.

Bangladesh has placed her order for Dornier at Tk 41 crore each.

According to official sources, the basic aircraft would be manufactured by RUAG in Germany. Engine, surveillance radar and other major equipment would be manufactured in the USA, as per the deal.

The Navy expects to equip itself with the aircraft to have an extensive surveillance on deep-sea piracy in exclusive economic zone (EEZ), facilitate search and rescue operations and ensure security of oil rigs and other installations along 714-kilometre coastline stretching from Hariabhanga River to Naf River.

Meanwhile, the force procured two maritime helicopters from Italy in mid June and attached them to the frigate BNS Bangabandhu.

http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=214732[/QUOTE]

Credit: Galive

manbil777

January 17th, 2012, 12:49 AM

Sri Lankan Army delegation has just concluded their visit to Bangladesh, headed by Commander of the Sri Lankan Army Lieutenant General Jagath Jayasuriya on Sunday (1/15/2012) after a short five-day tour. Pics are here (http://www.army.lk/detailed.php?NewsId=4217), here (http://www.army.lk/detailed.php?NewsId=4217), here (http://www.army.lk/detailed.php?NewsId=4198)and here (http://www.army.lk/detailed.php?NewsId=4202).

mintgum84

June 6th, 2012, 12:26 AM

It is true Bd will get subs by 2020?

manbil777

July 30th, 2012, 01:32 AM

This is the future plan for Bangladesh Navy

Future Expansion Plan

The newly elected government of Bangladesh announced an ambitious defense procurement plan in February 2009[4][5] for major purchase of weaponry, equipment and hardware for its armed forces, including anti-tank and anti-ship missile systems, aircraft for maritime patrol, frigates, tanks and helicopters. The Parliamentary standing committee in principal agreed a 10-year development program in June 2009,[6][7] under which the navy is to acquire 3 missile frigates, 3 large patrol vessels with helicopter deck, 12 patrol craft, submarines, 2 landing craft (utility), 1 hydro-graphic unit, 1 salvage vessel, 4 Fast Attack Craft (missile) and install new missiles in some ships to strengthen their combat capability.. Following BNS Osman,[8] BNS Khalid Bin Walid, the most modern ship of Bangladesh Navy, is going to be equipped with maritime helicopter, anti-aircraft and anti-ship missile. Bangladesh Navy is in the process of replacing it three age-old ex-Royal Navy frigates (BNS Abu Bakar, BNS Ali Haider and BNS Umar Farooq) with modern frigates within next couple of years. Bangladesh Navy is also preparing to add submarines to its fleet by 2019.[9][10]

As of April,2010 the rapid modernization effort of BN involves order of:

1. 2x F-22B guided missile frigate (China),
2. 2x large patrol craft/missile corvette (China),
3. 2x Castle class patrol vessel (UK - refurbished)[11]
4. 2x Hydrographic ship (1 ex-RN + other Indigenous),
5. 1x Fleet Replenishment Oil Tanker - Indigenous,
6. 2x LCU -Indigenous,
7. 1x Salvage ship -Indigenous,
8. 2x AW-109AWP SAR helicopter (UK)
9. 12x Patrol boats -Indigenous,
10. 3x Z-9C Anti-Submarine helicopter (China),
11. 16(Delivered), 5(On Order)x Defender class rapid response special force boats (USA),
12. C-802 ASM missiles for 3 frigate and 4 missile boats (China),
13. Otomat blk IV for BNS Bangabandhu (EU),
14. FM-90 SAM for 3 frigates (China).

On discussion:

1. 2x King Air MPA (USA),
2. New generation of light and heavy Torpedoes (EU + China),
3. 4x guided missile corvette (Turkey - Milgem),
4. 3x Subamarine (Turkey / Germany / South Korea).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladesh_Navy

Okay - let's see what has been accomplished in the last two years for the list above. In fact the list is pretty much 75% done IMO. Let's go through the list.

1. 2x F-22B guided missile frigate (China) -- on order in China and similar to Pakistani F22P Zulfiquar (sword) class.

2. 2x large patrol craft/missile corvette (China) -- being re-fitted in China

Two type 053H2 Jianghu-III Class Missile Frigates are being re-fitted in China with modern sensors and weapons with Bangladesh funds. Below is an older picture of Jianghu-III Class Missile Frigate 'Wuhu' (PLA Navy pennant 536) from Sinodefence dot com.

The names are BNS Hazrat Shah Jalal (ex-PLAN Huangshi) and BNS Hazrat Shah Poran (ex-PLAN Wuhu). Weapons fitment is expected to be a notch below the Pakistani F22P Zulfiquar 'Sword' class but still up-to-date. These ships included a combat data system (ZKJ-3A) from the outset to connect various weapon and sensors on-board to form an integrated system and features an electronic warfare suite consisting of interceptors, radar warning receivers and chaff/decoy rocket launchers.

http://www.sinodefence.com/navy/surface/images/type053h2_jianghu3_02large.jpg

http://www.sinodefence.com/navy/surface/images/type053h2_jianghu3_02large.jpg

3. 2x Castle class patrol vessel -- Re-commissioned in March 2011 as the BNS Dhaleshwari and BNS Bijoy (ex-'HMS Leeds Castle' and ex-'HMS Dumbarton Castle' respectively) after refitted in the UK.

Scroll --> (sorry about the large picture but this is the only one on the 'net).

http://www.ap-group.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/castleclass-small.jpg

4. 2x Hydrographic ship (1 ex-RN + other Indigenous) -- The ex-RN ship is HMS Roebuck (H130) which was a coastal survey vessel of the Royal Navy (RN). She was used for surveys along the United Kingdom continental shelf and is fitted with a full suite of hydro-graphic sensors, and a Survey Motor Boat for inshore work. In addition, as with the other vessels of the survey squadron, she can also operate as a support ship for mine warfare vessels.

Name: HMS Roebuck
Operator: Royal Navy/Bangladesh Navy July 2010
Launched: 14 November 1985
Commissioned: 3 October 1986
Fate: Active in service as of 2008
General characteristics
Displacement: 1,477 tonnes
Length: 64 m
Beam: 13 m
Height: 4 m
Propulsion: 4 × Mirrlees Blackstone ES8 supercharged diesel engines, driving twin Controllable Pitch Propellers via two gearboxes
Speed: 15 knots
Complement: 52
Armament: 20 mm BMARC gun
Miniguns
GPMGs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XHVgA2X_z-Y

5. 1x Fleet Replenishment Oil Tanker - Indigenous,
6. 2x LCU -Indigenous,
7. 1x Salvage ship -Indigenous,

Don't know about the three above. Please post updates if you know of any.

8. 2x AW-109AWP SAR helicopter (UK) -- Delivered and in operation. See link below and scroll all the way down.

http://www.helidecks-international.co.uk/?page_id=267

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procsrserv/47a1d920b3127cce98548a77f58d00000030100Abt2rNqzZsmkA/cwvDm9asA3Lw9atmAbl5etGTDg

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/292016_156686194412303_100002127716700_361247_6590327_n.jpg

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/185475_156686704412252_100002127716700_361248_1131798_n.jpg

9. 12x Patrol boats -Indigenous and probably will be built at Khulna Naval shipyard - similar to CGS Porte Grande but a bit bigger.

10. 3x Z-9C Anti-Submarine helicopter (China),
11. 16(Delivered), 5(On Order)x Defender class rapid response special force boats (USA),
12. C-802 ASM missiles for 3 frigate and 4 missile boats (China),
13. Otomat blk IV for BNS Bangabandhu (EU),
14. FM-90 SAM for 3 frigates (China).

No late status on the five above which means still under discussion. Please post if you have updates.

Also Bangladesh Navy is all set to receive a Hamilton class US Coast Guard Cutter 'Rush (http://www.uscg.mil/pacarea/cgcrush/southpat.asp)'. Here's a pic. This is being re-commissioned as 'BNS Siraj ud-Daulah'.

http://www.uscg.mil/pacarea/cgcrush/img/album/044.jpg

TIslam

July 30th, 2012, 04:30 AM

^^
I strongly recommend to keep this thread in the civilian realm. Let us not turn it into a military discussion and comparison with the Jones'.

@Mintgum:

This is my last notice to you. I will simply delete your posts whenever they are irrelevant to the threads of Bangladesh subforum.

manbil777

July 30th, 2012, 08:45 AM

TIslam

July 30th, 2012, 03:45 PM

Understood brother. My posts were not intended to attract trolls. But they have. So just civilian from this point on.

It alright. I've fallen into the trolls traps myself. :)

mirzazeehan

July 31st, 2012, 03:47 AM

Okay - let's see what has been accomplished in the last two years for the list above. In fact the list is pretty much 75% done IMO. Let's go through the list.

1. 2x F-22B guided missile frigate (China) -- on order in China and similar to Pakistani F22P Zulfiquar (sword) class.

2. 2x large patrol craft/missile corvette (China) -- being re-fitted in China

Two type 053H2 Jianghu-III Class Missile Frigates are being re-fitted in China with modern sensors and weapons with Bangladesh funds. Below is an older picture of Jianghu-III Class Missile Frigate 'Wuhu' (PLA Navy pennant 536) from Sinodefence dot com.

The names are BNS Hazrat Shah Jalal (ex-PLAN Huangshi) and BNS Hazrat Shah Poran (ex-PLAN Wuhu). Weapons fitment is expected to be a notch below the Pakistani F22P Zulfiquar 'Sword' class but still up-to-date. These ships included a combat data system (ZKJ-3A) from the outset to connect various weapon and sensors on-board to form an integrated system and features an electronic warfare suite consisting of interceptors, radar warning receivers and chaff/decoy rocket launchers.

http://www.sinodefence.com/navy/surface/images/type053h2_jianghu3_02large.jpg

http://www.sinodefence.com/navy/surface/images/type053h2_jianghu3_02large.jpg

3. 2x Castle class patrol vessel -- Re-commissioned in March 2011 as the BNS Dhaleshwari and BNS Bijoy (ex-'HMS Leeds Castle' and ex-'HMS Dumbarton Castle' respectively) after refitted in the UK.

Scroll --> (sorry about the large picture but this is the only one on the 'net).

http://www.ap-group.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/castleclass-small.jpg

4. 2x Hydrographic ship (1 ex-RN + other Indigenous) -- The ex-RN ship is HMS Roebuck (H130) which was a coastal survey vessel of the Royal Navy (RN). She was used for surveys along the United Kingdom continental shelf and is fitted with a full suite of hydro-graphic sensors, and a Survey Motor Boat for inshore work. In addition, as with the other vessels of the survey squadron, she can also operate as a support ship for mine warfare vessels.

Name: HMS Roebuck
Operator: Royal Navy/Bangladesh Navy July 2010
Launched: 14 November 1985
Commissioned: 3 October 1986
Fate: Active in service as of 2008
General characteristics
Displacement: 1,477 tonnes
Length: 64 m
Beam: 13 m
Height: 4 m
Propulsion: 4 × Mirrlees Blackstone ES8 supercharged diesel engines, driving twin Controllable Pitch Propellers via two gearboxes
Speed: 15 knots
Complement: 52
Armament: 20 mm BMARC gun
Miniguns
GPMGs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XHVgA2X_z-Y

5. 1x Fleet Replenishment Oil Tanker - Indigenous,
6. 2x LCU -Indigenous,
7. 1x Salvage ship -Indigenous,

Don't know about the three above. Please post updates if you know of any.

8. 2x AW-109AWP SAR helicopter (UK) -- Delivered and in operation. See link below and scroll all the way down.

http://www.helidecks-international.co.uk/?page_id=267

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procsrserv/47a1d920b3127cce98548a77f58d00000030100Abt2rNqzZsmkA/cwvDm9asA3Lw9atmAbl5etGTDg

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/292016_156686194412303_100002127716700_361247_6590327_n.jpg

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/185475_156686704412252_100002127716700_361248_1131798_n.jpg

9. 12x Patrol boats -Indigenous and probably will be built at Khulna Naval shipyard - similar to CGS Porte Grande but a bit bigger.

10. 3x Z-9C Anti-Submarine helicopter (China),
11. 16(Delivered), 5(On Order)x Defender class rapid response special force boats (USA),
12. C-802 ASM missiles for 3 frigate and 4 missile boats (China),
13. Otomat blk IV for BNS Bangabandhu (EU),
14. FM-90 SAM for 3 frigates (China).

No late status on the five above which means still under discussion. Please post if you have updates.

Also Bangladesh Navy is all set to receive a Hamilton class US Coast Guard Cutter 'Rush (http://www.uscg.mil/pacarea/cgcrush/southpat.asp)'. Here's a pic. This is being re-commissioned as 'BNS Siraj ud-Daulah'.

http://www.uscg.mil/pacarea/cgcrush/img/album/044.jpg

Wow...u do know ur thing man!:cheers:

nayeem007

October 9th, 2012, 10:09 AM

First Bangladesh made warship launched

http://www.thedailystar.net/photo/2012/10/09/2012-10-09__metro01.jpg

The first patrol boat-category warship built in Bangladesh by Khulna Shipyard is taken to the Rupsha river after a ceremony in the shipyard yesterday.Photo: STAR

A Correspondent, Khulna

The first-ever warship built by Bangladesh was launched by Foreign Minister Dipu Moni through a ceremony at Khulna Shipyard yesterday.

The warship, categorised as a patrol boat, was built by Khulna Shipyard at a cost of Tk 58 crore and will be handed over to Bangladesh Navy in December.

With a cruising speed of 18 nautical miles and a maximum speed of 23 nautical miles, the 255 tonne patrol boat is equipped with two 37 mm and two 20 mm guns capable of taking down aircrafts and ships.

Moreover, the 50.4 by 7.5 metre patrol boat can be at sea with 31 crew members for one week at a stretch without docking.

The patrol boat is among five Khulna Shipyard is constructing for Bangladesh Navy at a cost of Tk 288 crore, scheduled to be handed over by mid 2013. China Shipbuilding Offshore Company is supervising the construction and providing the designs and materials.

Khulna Shipyard signed the construction contract with Bangladesh Navy on May 2, 2010 and Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina inaugurated the construction on March 5, 2011.

Addressing the ceremony as chief guest, Dipu Moni said with increasing demand for ships in the global market, Khulna Shipyard will hopefully be able to construct and export more ships with Chinese assistance.

Chief of the Naval Staff Vice Admiral Zahir Uddin Ahmed, local lawmakers and high civil and military officials were present at the ceremony.

http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=253051

TIslam

April 10th, 2013, 07:12 PM

Bangabandhu BAF Base will initiate a new horizon: PM

The Independent
Print Edition
Wednesday, 10 April 2013
Author / Source: SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT

[DHAKA: Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina speaks at the induction ceremony of modern aircraft at the Bangladesh Air Force at Kurmitola in the city on Tuesday. PMO PHOTO] DHAKA, APR 9: Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina on Tuesday inaugurated “Bangladesh Air Force (BAF) Base Bangabandhu” at Kurmitola in Dhaka Cantonment, opening up a new horizon in building a modern, professional, effective and well-disciplined Air Force.

The premier also inaugurated an F-7BG1 aircraft and an MI-171 SH helicopter, procured recently from China and Russia respectively for strengthening the activities of the Air Force.
After inaugurating the aircraft and helicopter, a colourful fly-past of BAF fighters and an aerobatic show of the newly-inducted F-7BG1 aircraft were held.
Speaking on the occasion, Sheikh Hasina said, “I hope that the “Air Force Base Bangabandhu” would initiate a new horizon in protecting air space and national interest of the country.
The Prime Minister disclosed that the procurement of Transport Trainers, Maritime Search and Rescue and Jet Trainer aircraft for the Air Force is under process to build a strong, efficient and modern air force,” she said.
“The government has also a plan to procure training fighter planes, helicopters and air defence RADAR through an agreement with Russia,” the premier added. The Prime Minister said, her government is providing all-out support to the air force so that the brave youths who are inspired in patriotism come forward in larger number to face this challenge.
Sheikh Hasina advised the officers of the Air Force to be careful in flying and maintenance of the fighters and helicopters, procured by the hard-earned money of the people.

http://www.theindependentbd.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=164057:bangabandhu-baf-base-will-initiate-a-new-horizon-pm&catid=129:frontpage&Itemid=121

So what happened to Bashar Air Base? Why not name everything Bangabandhu? Does AL/Hasina care about honoring anybody else other than SMR? Utterly disgusting!