Works by:

Daniel Libeskind

http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20080408/libeskin2.jpg

http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20080408/libeskin3.jpg

http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20080408/libeskin4.jpg

http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20080408/libeskind_1.jpg

Zaha Hadid

http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20080408/zaha.jpg

http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20080408/zaha2.jpg

http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20080408/zaha4.jpg

http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20080408/zaha5.jpg

Massimiliano Fuksas

http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20080408/fuksas.jpg

http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20080408/fuksas1.jpg

http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20080408/fuksas2.jpg

http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20080408/fuksas3.jpg

Renderings from www.vtv.lt
The winner of arch competition will be announced tommorow.

Fuksas' one looks like a heart :D all of them are really great though, hard to pick a favourite one :)

Interesting project, but when does Zaha move on?

Paris:

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/5395/zahaaaaa2yf3.jpg

Vilnius:

http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20080408/zaha4.jpg

Very nice projects!

It's too hard for me to decide wich one looks best, but whichever it will be, it will become a symbol of Vilnius.

My vote - for Libeskind. Least favoured - Fuksas.

To my mind all three belong very much to "star-wars-impractical-show-off" type of projects (Also called - "Wow factor" buildings). To my mind all of them pushed too hard to the freaky side - putting up as priority No.1. the show-off and only then as a priority No.2 - the function of the building, and somewhere far behind No.3. - how the building sits in unique Vilnius environment (although may be they consider that this will be the new little small Sun around which the others will turn around?). All projects are really interesting and would turn attention for sure. But none is truly innovative, world class landmark building - although Libeskind's project comes closer to this to my mind.

You had to put up some Lithuanian architects as well - and it is quite possible that they would win. But, yes, sometimes it's nice to be part of world architecture showbusiness as well.

My vote - for Libeskind. Least favoured - Fuksas.

To my mind all three belong very much to "star-wars-impractical-show-off" type of projects (Also called - "Wow factor" buildings). To my mind all of them pushed too hard to the freaky side - putting up as priority No.1. the show-off and only then as a priority No.2 - the function of the building, and somewhere far behind No.3. - how the building sits in unique Vilnius environment (although may be they consider that this will be the new little small Sun around which the others will turn around?). All projects are really interesting and would turn attention for sure. But none is truly innovative, world class landmark building - although Libeskind's project comes closer to this to my mind.

You had to put up some Lithuanian architects as well - and it is quite possible that they would win. But, yes, sometimes it's nice to be part of world architecture showbusiness as well.

Couldn't agree more. My fave is Daniel Libeskind too. Fuksas and Hadid are typical "fuck context", anywhere-in-the-world buildings.

I agree with Gatis. Zaha Hadid and Massimiliano Fuksas projects are "typical world class architecture" (it means that it's getting to "not really world class"), they need some new ideas. While project by Daniel Libeskind is really impressive for my taste and I hope it'll win.
Though lets admit it, any of these projects would look impressive.

Yes, for sure - any would look impressive. Just - not always in positive way:

For example - this looks like a pure ignorance of the city:
http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20080408/zaha2.jpg

Don't misunderstand me - this is very ambitious project and Vilnius got a lot at the moment when it was decided to go for it. But I just get an impression that some star architects - starchitects did not put this as a high priority for themselves. That's the bad side of starchitects - every city wants to get a "landmark" from them but - they are not superhumans creating timeless pieces of architecture in every single corner of planet. Good local architect with his deep knowledge of the city and at the same time - with wide world view - he very often can create something much better.

But Libeskind's project is great, I would love to see it built.

fuck.

Libeskind proposal is
too great
I hope it never gets built.

Yes, for sure - any would look impressive. Just - not always in positive way:

For example - this looks like a pure ignorance of the city:
http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20080408/zaha2.jpg

Don't misunderstand me - this is very ambitious project and Vilnius got a lot at the moment when it was decided to go for it. But I just get an impression that some star architects - starchitects did not put this as a high priority for themselves. That's the bad side of starchitects - every city wants to get a "landmark" from them but - they are not superhumans creating timeless pieces of architecture in every single corner of planet. Good local architect with his deep knowledge of the city and at the same time - with wide world view - he very often can create something much better.

But Libeskind's project is great, I would love to see it built.

Again, I agree with you Gatis. That picture above says it all + my previous post on the matter with Hadid's proposal in PARIS looking more or less the same as her VILNIUS building. Typical branding and landmark architecture project.

Damn...those are some awesome proposals (why didn't we see something like that for the realdania building in CPH :()...If had to chose a favorite the Fuksas proposal is the one I like the most (from these renderings).

One more image of Hadid's project from delfi.lt
http://g.delfi.lt/images/pix/file16606408_hadid_i.jpg

Maybe tomorrow there will be more and better renderings + information.
Edit:
Photos of models (c)valbax:
http://www.miestai.net/forumas/attachment.php?attachmentid=2249
http://www.miestai.net/forumas/attachment.php?attachmentid=2250
http://www.miestai.net/forumas/attachment.php?attachmentid=2251

Massimiliano Fuksas:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeewBOH1WJI

Daniel Libeskind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxTQ7Xe5a5c

There is no sound on the Fuksas video:(

Zahos Hadid

http://www.delfi.lt/news/DELFI_for_women/new_forms/article.php?id=16609322

So after all it's Hadid.

Sad since most of us were rooting for Libeskind :ohno:

sad, I disliked Hadids proposal the most.

May be jury saw a lot more than we do in these small renders.
Just imagine... Vilnius is getting a piece of architecture from Zaha Hadid.

its still going to be a landmark.

Great stuff! :envious!:

I like Liebeskind the most – though it could be practically invisible in real life (renders look friggin awesome)

Hadid is trying almost too hard; yes, Fuksas is definitely a kind of building with wow-effect (but lads, nothing’s wrong with that!)

ffffffffffffffffffffuck hadid. i was so hoping for libeskind!

but anyway - congrats to vilnius! (:

btw - where could i read the story behind guggenheim/hermitage in vilnius, its backround, the first idea of such a museum, the investors etc etc? i mean, wtf - GUGGENHEIM... AND HERMITAGE in... VILNIUS!

go Vilnius, go! hadid project is the best solution for the city!!!
:cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers:

some bigger but crappy renderings. if quality renders appear, please-please, post them here! (:

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^^I just don't like it.

It looks great, but it's too similar to her other projects..still getting a Hadid's building in your city is really good news! :)

it's not a big deal if there are 20 similar-looking " unique zaha hadid buildings" proposed / uc / finished all around in the world...

hadid's become a silly brand, a manufacturer.

and that building. i agree with many - don't like it.

That's an impressive project none-the-less...

Why are the Hermitage and Guggenheim collaborating to build a cultural centre in Vilnius?

That's an impressive project none-the-less...

Why are the Hermitage and Guggenheim collaborating to build a cultural centre in Vilnius?

They already do...with the Koolhass designed Guggenheim Hermitage in Las Vegas. So I guess it's just an extension of that partnership.

Why are the Hermitage and Guggenheim collaborating to build a cultural centre in Vilnius?

yeah, i'd like to know the same thing. what's the deal?

and what exactly will we see in this museum, world-class art? from the storage rooms of the hermitage + guggenheim?

aah, so many questions!

Because Vilnius had quite a good mayor who managed to attract this project to Vilnius.
"Artūras Zuokas at age 32, he was the youngest mayor in the history of Vilnius, energetic and innovative leader. Zuokas has made an effort to market Vilnius at various international exhibitions. He personally attended many meetings with foreign investors. Zuokas speaks several foreign languages and, being himself a businessman, understands business needs well." (some parts from wiki). He had his bad sides too, that's why he is not a mayor anymore. Anyway, he organized this "show". :) And also while he still was a mayor, we scared our neighbors with various titles "the future baltic city", "the future city of EE", with such ideas as dipolis Vilnius-Kaunas and so on. ;) If I rememeber correctly he attracted WTC to Vilnius too (though I doubt it'll be built).

I agree that on the outside Hadid's project does not look as impressive as Liebedskin's. However, to my understanding, the main reason why this project was picked over Liebedskin's is its *interior*. Also, take into consideration that the museum is going to be devoted mostly to the modern art filled with avant-garde. All is left to do is trust the jury's decision...
On a second note, NY Guggenheim on the outside is not that impressive either, it's the feeling inside that captures the public.

I agree that on the outside Hadid's project does not look as impressive as Liebedskin's. However, to my understanding, the main reason why this project was picked over Liebedskin's is its *interior*. Also, take into consideration that the museum is going to be devoted mostly to the modern art filled with avant-garde

An “impressive” interior is not necessarily a good idea for an art museum; Hadid's Ordrupgaard museum outside Copenhagen is a good example of that; lopsided angles and messing around with the light totally disturbing the viewing of art.
But lets see some good interior renderings of this new project.

By the gods, this is amazing!

Now I am thinking about another thing - are there produced such enormous "windshields" - some 12 - 15 m high and some 30 - 40 m wide, bent glass shields?
http://*************************/lithuania/jpgs/guggenheim_museum_vilnius_zha090408_3.jpg

If there is such technology (f.e. making it from smaller glass "bricks" and transparent glue with the same optical qualities) - then it would look great! But if in reality there is the usual glass shields with lots of metal framings - futuristic effect is lost to great extent - and this render is lying to us.
Just curious.

Project presentation
http://www.balsas.lt/video/190717

Edit: Gatis the facade material is already chosen and it should look like in the rendering

What kind of glass material it is?? Are there real examples of this?

I looked through Webpages of several popular architects - while the renderings of their buildings contain such enormous bent glass shields without any framing, in reality they are divided into smaller glass shields, each with metallic frame.

What kind of glass material it is?? Are there real examples of this?

I looked through Webpages of several popular architects - while the renderings of their buildings contain such enormous bent glass shields without any framing, in reality they are divided into smaller glass shields, each with metallic frame.

Another project where local inhabitants will put money of their pocket on (Lijke Riga library). This spaceship landed in Vilnius will be impressive for a few years but will not attract large international visitors like Guggenheim in Bilbao. I am a bit sad for Vilnius and lithuanians. It would have deserved a nicer project... It just looked more realistic...

I will visit and appreciate but I will lack the Wow effect, this kind of building has been designed since the begining of Brazilia... Why people are not more innovative in their choices??? Architects did their job though... I prefered also the first project with all this green that would have respected the city and its inhabitants while being creative, innovative and attracting...

What kind of glass material it is?? Are there real examples of this?

I looked through Webpages of several popular architects - while the renderings of their buildings contain such enormous bent glass shields without any framing, in reality they are divided into smaller glass shields, each with metallic frame.

Which is probably exactly the solution you will end up with here.

Libeskind project was really something awesome... :(

Could anyone tell short about that Jonas Mekas scandal which was related with collection of persepctive museum in Vilnius?

That Fluxus legacy - documentation did and colected by Georg Maciunas was given to Jonas Mekas to "keep them for a while". And Mekas now - after all those years sold it to Vilnius City for 5 mio USD even he wasn't legal owner. What the things now - is there intensions to show thoese Fluxus things in that museum?



But if about projects - i like Fuksas proposal more than others. Because it looks more architectural. But anyway - all of them look so "trendy" but none of them are dealing with the spirit of Vilnius city, with sense of place. All of them looks so alieneted from the real place. But - that's the fashion now.

That Fluxus legacy - documentation did and colected by Georg Maciunas was given to Jonas Mekas to "keep them for a while". And Mekas now - after all those years sold it to Vilnius City for 5 mio USD even he wasn't legal owner.

It's all quite fuzzy. Things that Mekas sold were given to him by Mačiūnas when he was moving out of his NY apartment. All valuable to him, Mačiūnas took to his ranch. He has never asked Mekas for those few boxes and never mentioned them in his last will. So it is quite complicated.

What the things now - is there intensions to show thoese Fluxus things in that museum?

Yes - there should be a permanent exposition dedicated to Fluxus.

Any recent news about museum project?

Why is Vilnius getting a Guggenheim ?

Why not?

lovecph - a zealous mayor + a fantastic collection of 20th century art by and in the collection of jonas mekas and george maciunas.

...

in this autumn there'll be a fluxus exhibition in the museum of art in tallinn - can't wait can't wait can't wait!

All my respect, but...what kind of art they are going to offer for visitors of this museum? I realy doubt, that this project will be successive at all, because it takes years to collect desent pieces of art, so it is worth to travel long distances. Besides, designe of it is miles behind the one of Bilbao (which I'm going to visit next year).

^all you have to do is read the post above yours and maybe also read something about jonas mekas and george maciunas...

it's silly to think it wouldn't be successful. there's no doubt it will. if built.

All my respect, but...what kind of art they are going to offer for visitors of this museum? I realy doubt, that this project will be successive at all, because it takes years to collect desent pieces of art, so it is worth to travel long distances. Besides, designe of it is miles behind the one of Bilbao (which I'm going to visit next year).

There will be permanent expositions of "Fluxus" collection, something permanent related to jews and otherwise, there will constantly be visiting expositions, from New York, L.A., Bilbao and other G museums.

You can download the feasibility study here (http://perlhosting.net/download7/b4f68411.html)


The results would be very much significant. Long term increment spending and employment projections show that there would be:

up to 900 new jobs created,
in addition to up to 18 new hotels,
14mln $ of additional yearly tax revenue from museum alone
up to 924.000 more tourists, and prolonged stay in Vilnius of average tourist
Increase of the value of real estate, especially sharp in museums proximity - more property tax generated
A significant increase in value of "Vilnius brand"

:wave:

From moroccan forum : Zaha Hadid Vanguard Projects (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=66825311#post66825311)

Zaha Hadid: Hermitage - Guggenheim Vilnius Museum

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Zaha Hadid: Hermitage - Guggenheim Vilnius Museum

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We will have a theather by Zaha Hadid in Morocco, Rabat (capital city) :cheers:

RABAT | Théâtre National | By Zaha HADID | 47 000 m² | 1,35 Md DH | 2011 - 2016 |#Project (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=927260&page=1)

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Our theatre will cost 125 millions $ for :
- 2.050 places main theater
- 250 places small theater
- 7.000 places outdoor amphiteater
- cinema studio ...

How much cost your center ?

Wow, they do look quite similar :okay: too bad, that the construction of the one in Vilnius probably won't start for about another couple of years :(

It is likely that it will never start.

Bad for you ! :ohno:

It needs 4-5 years to build it in Morocco with the new neighborhood.