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Jai
April 19th, 2008, 06:31 AM
IU's edit: the tower has been redesigned. Please see page 5 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=610339&page=5) for the latest render and details
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X-posted from my thread in the international forum (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=15925329)

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Elphinstone Mills Tower -- Parel, Mumbai

Finally, renderings have been released for the redevelopment of Elphinstone Mills, Mumbai (Bombay) by developers Indiabulls Real Estate.

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/812/01ne2.jpg

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4215/03yg4.jpg

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1491/02iy0.jpg

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/7624/04db5.jpg

One of the first projects announced in a series of redevelopments of former textile mill lands in South Mumbai, the tower will be Mumbai's first purely commercial skyscraper to break ground -- all other skyscrapers being purely residential or mixed residential/hotel. Not only does it herald the next phase of high-quality but infrastructure-intensive commercial skyscraper development in Mumbai, but it is also an indication of what the redevelopment of the massive mill lands and slums in the next 5 years will mean for Mumbai and her booming skyline.

Initially reported to only be 40 stories tall, the height has since been increased to 60 stories. Designed by Chicago based firm Adrian Smith + Gordon Gill Architecture, is the latest in environmentally friendly signature towers planned for Mumbai.

According to the architect's website:
The 60-story Elphinstone Mills complex in downtown Mumbai includes Class A office space and a pedestrian friendly retail podium. The building is designed to a LEED Platinum standard and will create a new icon in the skyline of Mumbai.

Every floor of the office tower features outdoor terraces and multi-story garden atria, fully integrating the interior workspace with natural elements of the exterior environment. These garden spaces provide tenants with a shaded area for relaxation and socialization; natural light is abundant, while the overhangs simultaneously shade the units below. The building is also oriented to minimize solar gain, decreasing the heating effect of direct sunlight and increasing comfort levels for building tenants.

Each atrium space is connected to a central atrium within the building’s core. Air flows from the exterior environment into this central space, accelerating as it travels down the atrium toward a series of wind turbines, which generate power for the building.
One of the major hurdles facing the construction of major commercial towers in Mumbai, that of uninterrupted power, has been solved with on-site generation and a design that minimizes power consumption and loss. Going totally green may be the way for major skyscraper projects to go in Mumbai, which is yet another boon for the city. The second major hurdle, that of infrastructure, is to be remedied by having the developer offset the cost of infrastructure development adjacent to the site, a requirement of mill land redevelopment. The development of the Mumbai metro and other mass transit projects that will service the mill land region will also contribute to sustainability.

According to Indiabulls, construction of the tower has already started from March 2007, with a completion date of Sept, 2008, but SSC India members cannot independently verify if it has, due to the inaccessible nature of the site. However, it's worth noting that construction Indiabulls's commercial development at its related project at nearby Jupiter Mills is well underway:

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/8048/mumbaiconstructionsitepmh9.jpg
^ Jupiter Mills

Note in the above image all the towers coming up at other mill lands. And these are just the very beginning of the huge mill land redevelopments in store for India's financial capital :)

Props to spyguy for originally finding and posting the renderings at SSC India :cheers:

Cheers,
Jai

Jai
April 19th, 2008, 06:33 AM
This article in DNA Mumbai (http://tinyurl.com/3agl74), confirms that this project is now under construction.

Here is the Elphinstone Mills storage site photo (as per Kalyan):
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/4974/c61gj0.jpg

And relevant quotes from the article:
Residents of the Elphinstone Road-Lower Parel area say they are paying for the re-development of mill lands in their area with their health. The hectic construction activity at Elphinstone and Jupiter mills, where huge commercial complexes are coming up, and the NTC mill land, which will turn into an entertainment centre, is generating a lot of dust leading to people complaining of cough, asthma-related problems and burning eyes.

Since construction began a year ago, doctors have reported a sharp increase in lung ailments.

...

Munaf Thakur, member of Elphinstone Road Rahiwasi Seva Sangh, an association of local residents, says, “Over 500 trucks bring construction material and a similar number take away debris from here. Spillage from the trucks remain on the road and dust is blown into homes by the movement of passing vehicles.”

Madhukar Tawade, another member of the Sangh, says, “Much of the dust is generated by the stone crushers and concrete mixers. The sites are not properly enclosed.”

...

“There is construction activity going on and it (dust problem) is not a usual situation. There will be some inconvenience. We have put up 30-feet high metal barricades around the site. We plan to raise the height by another 10 feet. However, we are ready to talk to residents if there is still a problem."

Jai
April 19th, 2008, 06:34 AM
Here's a neat update. This tower's getting a neighbor!

Long awaited (by SSC India forumers, anyway) renderings for the promised residential tower at redevelopment of Jupiter Mills (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=610333), Mumbai (Bombay) by developers Indiabulls Real Estate has finally been released by Chicago-based Adrian Smith + Gordon Gill Architects:

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/7961/02hm2.jpg
^ (Jupiter Mills Tower (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=610333) on left, Elphinstone Mills Tower on right)

Cov Boy
April 20th, 2008, 08:58 PM
Finally a office tower to be proud of.

I like the neighbouring building too.

zhiemi
April 20th, 2008, 10:54 PM
^^ ditto on that.

But completion date of September this year seems far-fetched.

indeglow1
April 22nd, 2008, 01:15 AM
Now thats great looking tower.Mumbai needs more of these and not the concreate block condos.

kalyan
May 7th, 2008, 10:30 AM
jai,

the photograph u had given is not the actual construction site of elphinstone mill land. it is a relatively small 3/4th to 1 acre sized plot located close to jupiter mill which the indiabulls firm is using as a storage cum service area. the proper elphinstone mill land is on the other side of the elphinstone road.

these are the photographs (taken on 07.05.2008) of the construction activity on the elphinstone mill land. the construction aactivity happening on the LEFT side is the one on the elphinstone mill land.

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/8793/31660986hy6.jpg

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/3152/35009763ch6.jpg

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/8109/64534162bt5.jpg


the pic given below is the construction activity which is going on the plot just adjacent to the elphinstone mill land, on its north side. the structure seems to be massive, but no idea whatsoever what it is.
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/4503/45188781eg8.jpg

Suncity
May 7th, 2008, 06:06 PM
Interesting pics.

:cheers:

You are now the official SSC Mumbai project photographer.

:)

Mahratta
May 7th, 2008, 11:32 PM
Fantastic pics of the fantastic progress, kalyan!
Keep up the great work!

Jai
May 8th, 2008, 04:58 AM
awesome update bro! Thanks for the clarification. All the maps in the world are worthless compared to eyes on the ground.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see how progress comes along before we can definitively say what's being built

Suncity
May 8th, 2008, 05:00 AM
I have changed the photo caption as per Kalyan's feedback.

Hindustani
May 8th, 2008, 03:21 PM
kalyan

dude thanks. you are doing a fantastic job for Bombay u/c projects. Just snap anything n' everything you see u/c even if you dont know what they're. we'll figure out here once you post them. :cheers:

IndiansUnite
August 15th, 2008, 10:39 PM
2 screen shots from a news video (http://www.utvi.com/utvilife/real-estate-market-news/8403/mumbai-realty-boom-bit-by-milling-woes.html) covering the NTC mills sales-

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/9112/elphinstone1vq4.jpg


http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/5739/elphinstone2ue7.jpg

Jai
August 15th, 2008, 11:04 PM
Some more confirmation that both Elphinstone and Jupiter Mills towers are in the pipeline. From this press release (pdf) (http://www.richardscarlberg.com/pdf/indiabulls.pdf):

MARKETING OF ONE OF INDIA’S TALLEST BUILDING AWARDED
TO HOUSTON-BASED RICHARDS/CARLBERG

Agency to Promote Three Projects in Mumbai’s New Central Business District
HOUSTON (August 30, 2007) — Central Mumbai in India is emerging as the
new financial business centre of the fifth most populous metropolitan area in
the world and will soon be home to one of the tallest building in the country – a
luxury condominium. The builder and one of India’s leading real estate
companies, Indiabulls Real Estate Limited (IBREL), has selected Houston-based
Richards/Carlberg as its agency of record to promote the structure along with
two other construction projects in the area. The agency’s responsibilities include
the worldwide advertising and marketing of the complex.


[...]

Richards/Carlberg’s first assignment included the naming of the initial
project – One Indiabulls Centre, which will offer more than 2 million square feet
of office and retail space. The agency currently is developing one of the first
marketing materials which is 20-page fold out color brochure that outlines the
key features of the Centre including its LEED (Leadership in Energy
Environmental Design) gold rating certification; its ease of accessibility by bus,
Indiabulls and Richards/Carlberg
Page 2
taxi, rail and proximity to the airport; its state-of-the-art security with smart card
readers, a monitoring room, alarm systems, fire detection and more; and a host
of amenities like a fitness centre, concierge service and several eateries. Similar
marketing materials will be created for the 60-story commercial office building
and the 75-story condominium, both of which will be certified Platinum Green
Buildings. Creative development for advertising to follow.


Which two buildings are they talking about? Yup:
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/7961/02hm2.jpg
^ (Jupiter Mills Tower (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=610333) on left, Elphinstone Mills Tower (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=19809187) on right)

IndiansUnite
August 16th, 2008, 04:07 AM
Some more confirmation that both Elphinstone and Jupiter Mills towers are in the pipeline. From this press release (pdf) (http://www.richardscarlberg.com/pdf/indiabulls.pdf):

Suhweet

India101
October 19th, 2008, 01:02 AM
This towers amazing. Cant wait to see it complete!

santoshw75
December 21st, 2008, 08:22 PM
a bit confused here...
as you drive on tulsi pipe road there are two huge patches of consturction activity on...
which building is on where...one of the bulding foot print and plan looks like a high rise...the other seems to be relatively low.

IndiansUnite
January 8th, 2009, 01:26 AM
^ Elphinstone mills is marked in red. Jupiter Mills is located just south of it.

http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/8918/maplg6.jpg


anyways...the tower is rising rapidly. There are now 2 cranes working on it -

January 2
Copyright Dan & Leone
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/7885/315997959275812c06efoke8.jpg

bhargavsura
January 8th, 2009, 04:24 AM
So this tower is really happening. That's great news!!!

Mahratta
January 8th, 2009, 10:24 PM
The materialization of this project signals is great. It's completion will put Bombay on the world stage

IndiansUnite
January 9th, 2009, 04:29 AM
Adrian Smith and Gordon Gill's website just got updated. They've uploaded a PDF which contains a larger render of both the Jupiter and Elphinstone Mill towers:

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3922/towersfo6.jpg

kalyan
February 6th, 2009, 11:24 AM
elphinstone mill tower u/c, as on 06.02.2009

http://img16.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sdc10062lf0.jpg

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/5646/sdc10062lf0.jpg

India101
February 6th, 2009, 11:36 AM
wow thats going up nicely. Great updates Kalyan!

Suncity
February 6th, 2009, 03:01 PM
good update Kalyan!

IndiansUnite
February 24th, 2009, 03:26 AM
According to this Business Times article (http://luxuryasiahome.wordpress.com/2009/02/06/indiabulls-secures-4-year-2b-rupee-loan/) and announcement made by IndiaBulls (http://www.finanznachrichten.de/pdf/20090204_222401_F3EU_87DE9B0E77EF96BD4825755300363B88.1.pdf), the Elphinstone Mills tower has been named the Indiabulls Finance Center.

Branding of Elphinstone Mills

The Board of Directors is pleased to announce that Elphinstone Mills has been branded as “Indiabulls Finance Center” to position the towers as hub for the financial services industry including banking, finance, security and insurance sectors.

Ajaypp
February 25th, 2009, 02:04 PM
At the risk of posting in the wrong thread, any construction update on the Jupiter Mills tower, are those tower cranes in the foreground of the latest pic standing on the site of the Jupiter tower?

ab041937
February 25th, 2009, 04:41 PM
I am not sure though but Jupiter Mills Tower needs ceiling clearence before it can start building.

Pince1AndOnly
March 1st, 2009, 03:41 AM
how tall is this building...i mean how many feet or meters does it reach??

IndiansUnite
March 2nd, 2009, 11:38 PM
^No info has been released so far.


The Elphinstone Mills page (http://www.indiabulls.com/realestate/elphinstone_mills.htm) on IndiaBulls website got updated:


http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/2291/elphinstonebanner.gif

The Indiabulls Finance Center Project is designed to cater to Corporate Offices with a total leaseable area of 1.5 million sq ft.

It is located on 7.76 acres of land in Lower Parel, in close proximity to the One Indiabulls Centre site. It is proposed that the development will include a common area, restaurant area, food court area, club house area and will have provisions for open and covered parking areas with capacity for approximately 3,000 car parks. Construction work on the project has started and it is expected to be complete by 2009.

The last line is ofcourse not true.

IndiansUnite
May 25th, 2009, 05:13 AM
Worli-Parel sklyline on May 19. The Elphinstone Mills tower/Indiabulls Finance Center (2nd from left with a crane) has started to make a mark on the skyline.

Copyright chris3_1_3
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/6646/3556304187ffa3ecbf3do.jpg

kalyan
May 25th, 2009, 02:27 PM
^^^^

nice snap. i think its time for updates. will post some either 2moro or on wednesday.

but i tell u guys, elphinstone mill tower is growing at a very lethargic pace compared with Lodha bellisimo and Shangri la, whose consrtuction too started in early 2008. on the last count, bellissimo has come close to the 45th level and shangri la at 25th level (both are growing at 7-10 days per level). elphinstone mill tower is growing at the rate of 1 level for every 30 days and hasnt gone beyond 20th level. at this rate, it may not top out for the next 3 years:ohno:

bhargavsura
May 25th, 2009, 03:08 PM
^^^^

Thanks for the updates kalyan. Looking forward to more spectacular images from you.

kalyan
June 7th, 2009, 03:43 AM
i took these photographs 10 days back and since then i have been hesitating to post these photographs until i can firgure out what exactly is going on the Elphinstone mills. for the last couple of months the structure is not gaining any height hence i went to the other side of the building to find out what is happening.

this was the earlier image i had taken on Feb 6th 2009.

elphinstone mill tower u/c, as on 06.02.2009

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/5646/sdc10062lf0.jpg

and this image was taken around 20th May 2009.

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/1508/sdc10324.jpg

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/1508/sdc10324.jpg

We can see there is hardly any gain in height since february.

This was the scene which i got to see on the other side.

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/5701/sdc10506.jpg

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/5701/sdc10506.jpg


http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/4697/sdc10507.jpg


http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/4697/sdc10507.jpg

We can clearly see that the glass cladding of the structure is already on and i dont see a point why would they start the glass cladding of a proposed 60 storeyed structure when they are only done with constructing 15-20 odd storeys.

now i remember seeing one image in this forum, which showed 3 mid level rises of 6-20 storeys each, which was supposed to come up in the elphinstone mill land. (somebody help me find that image, pls). taking a look at the next picture, i think that is the actual project which is being implemented as we can cee basement is being laid for similar smaller towers.


http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/1864/sdc10509s.jpg

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/1864/sdc10509s.jpg

I dont think there is any point expecting a 60 storey tower coming up in elphinstone mill land.
for all practical purposes, the building has already topped up.

I will be happy to be proved wrong.

sammyk
June 7th, 2009, 05:20 AM
We can clearly see that the glass cladding of the structure is already on and i dont see a point why would they start the glass cladding of a proposed 60 storeyed structure when they are only done with constructing 15-20 odd storeys.


As I'm sure you know, it's not uncommon to start cladding on the lower levels when the upper levels are not yet complete. So just because they have done so here does not necessarily mean they won't complete the rest of the floors.

Of course you may be correct in your theory but the cladding should not be the reason to think so.

IndiansUnite
June 7th, 2009, 05:25 AM
Damn. You seem to be right about the multiple towers fact. HDFC securities' Jan 2009 update (http://0101.netclime.net/1_5/25f/327/37f/Indiabulls%20Real%20Estate-Update.pdf) on IndiaBulls Real Estate also mentions 3 towers:

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9369/23178278.jpg

but here's something interesting:

Increase in FSI
IPIT’s statement:
The company said, the Urban Development Department, Government of Maharashtra had increased the Floor Space Index (“FSI”) from 2.66 to 4.00. This additional FSI can be availed of by surrendering the parking space that is over the statutory minimum needed. The Trust expects the leasable area to increase to more than 5.0 million square feet for offices and retail
development, compared to an earlier projection of 3.4 million square feet. The projects are being re-designed to accommodate the increased office space and include the excess parking space.”
.....
...
IPIT stated, the construction of Tower 1 at One Indiabulls Centre was completed on schedule and is awaiting the Occupation Certificate and other regulatory approvals to allow client fit-outs. The regulatory approvals will be received shortly after the change in the regulations. Tower 2 construction has proceeded as per schedule except for the completion of the top 4 floors which had to be modified to take in the anticipated hike in the FSI. The construction of the mall in One Indiabulls Centre has been delayed due to the re-design incorporating the new office tower and surplus parking space.

The re-design involves the construction of additional floors to the three towers at Elphinstone Mills as well as adding a fourth new tower.

This 4th tower is our 60 fl eye candy. :rock:

Here's another snippet:

Responses to SGX Queries-Raises more questions

The response to Current construction status of each building as compared to the total space stated at IPO is ambiguous. Appended below are the construction targets for the projects as stated in IPIT prospectus.
The response to SGX’s query on the current construction states that the towers at Indiabulls One Centre have been completed a scheduled. However, the IPIT prospectus stated December 2008 as the completion period for Elphinstone Mills. Tower 2 of Indiabulls One Centre is complete up to the 17 floors while the remaining 4 floors will be re-designed to accommodate the increase in FSI. The timelines for Elphinstone Mills will undergo further revision to accommodate the increase in FSI. We expect further delay in these projects as in addition to the re-designing process and time required for obtaining approvals for the new designs, there is an additional funding requirement to the tune of Rs 5 bn to meet the construction expenses and meet the current liabilities.

India101
June 7th, 2009, 02:56 PM
now i remember seeing one image in this forum, which showed 3 mid level rises of 6-20 storeys each

I posted this in the Mumbai update thread. Three midrise-lowrise towers.

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/3373/ibdc.jpg

kalyan
June 7th, 2009, 06:55 PM
^^

thanks bro. the tower which has been constructed looks very much in size and structure like the largest of the three. since two more basemnents are being laid, i can only assume that they are for the remaining two low-mid rises.

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/1864/sdc10509s.jpg

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/1864/sdc10509s.jpg

anyway, it will be a gr8 treat for us if they come up with a fourth tower too in view of the raised FSI :cheers:

Suncity
June 7th, 2009, 07:33 PM
I posted this in the Mumbai update thread. Three midrise-lowrise towers.

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/3373/ibdc.jpg

India101 to the rescue. Thanks for refreshing our memories.

:banana:

Jai
June 7th, 2009, 08:54 PM
great detective work guys

indianpatriot
June 8th, 2009, 05:02 PM
Sorry to disappoint you friends ,it seems the work on elphinstone tower has been very slow for quite sometime. :ohno:

Below is the photo of elphinstone tower(u/c) that i shot from wadala today .
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss283/indianpatriot/elphinstone.jpg

indianpatriot
June 8th, 2009, 05:04 PM
oops! i forgot to mention that the middle one with a crane is the elphinstone tower

bariatricsurgery
June 19th, 2009, 12:32 PM
Great progress ! !
I like both towers ! !
Mumbai construction is really rocking ! !

european
June 21st, 2009, 12:33 AM
Are the both towers under construction or just one of them.

India101
June 21st, 2009, 01:17 AM
^One

united
June 22nd, 2009, 07:41 PM
what is the current height and how many floors are completed ?

yashchauhan
June 23rd, 2009, 05:14 AM
Sorry to disappoint you friends ,it seems the work on elphinstone tower has been very slow for quite sometime. :ohno:

Below is the photo of elphinstone tower(u/c) that i shot from wadala today .
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss283/indianpatriot/elphinstone.jpg

What happened to the top floor......................it appears to be shifted a bit and has been resten on tall pillars.......................silly design!:nuts::nuts:

united
September 4th, 2009, 08:52 PM
how many floors have been completed yet?when is the project going to be completed?

ab041937
September 5th, 2009, 07:53 AM
how many floors have been completed yet?when is the project going to be completed?

Don't know yet! There are lots of well informed forumers here and if at all they have any information they would update it without u needing to bump the thread unnecessarily.

united
September 7th, 2009, 06:23 PM
sorry for asking the same question again.

ab041937
September 7th, 2009, 08:29 PM
^^Never mind Dude, just keep checking the thread. The guys here are very informed and they would post the news or pictures even before the actual developer gets a whiff. Seriously, just keep checking the thread. Also, if u come across any news u think the guys have missed then post it here to share it with us.

united
September 9th, 2009, 07:24 PM
thanks for supporting.

ab041937
September 9th, 2009, 07:42 PM
^^You are welcome Bro,

Apart from interest in Skyscrappers and architecture, SSCi is a great place to socialize. We all come blank here not knowing much on how to contribute but as times go by we pick up our roles here. It took me 3 years to post my first pic here. Others have done it fairly quickly. Why don't you pick up your camera and take few pics of your neighborhood and post them in Showcase Gallery (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=544) for other member to see? But before that.. How about answering a Roll Call (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=343438&page=11) and allowing other members to welcome you? Simply copy the list on the last post and add your User ID underneath it.

Suncity
September 13th, 2009, 08:47 PM
photo copyright subhash

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/2862/mumbaicranessubhashs.jpg (http://img190.imageshack.us/i/mumbaicranessubhashs.jpg/)

India101
September 14th, 2009, 07:31 AM
^So that is the real Elphinstone Mills tower. Hope so. Then wheres that building we though it was.

kalyan
September 16th, 2009, 08:20 PM
Sorry to disappoint all of you guys, the elphinstone mills tower is almost completed. its total height is only 20 storeys. nothing 60+ as we were thinking it to be.

i had taken a photogrph of the (almost) completed tower about a month back. I will post that over the weekend.

kalyan
September 16th, 2009, 08:23 PM
^So that is the real Elphinstone Mills tower. Hope so. Then wheres that building we though it was.

the structure protruding over the top of the given building is the elphinstione mill tower.

bhargavsura
September 17th, 2009, 04:15 AM
No way... :wtf:.... that sucks big time man....

India101
September 17th, 2009, 07:46 AM
Then whats that rising in that picture? But whats topped out is a different project to the Elphinstone Mills tower.

KB335ci2
September 17th, 2009, 08:00 AM
photo copyright subhash

This is Mahim. How is the Elphinstone Mills complex in Mahim? :dunno:

daaceisbak
September 17th, 2009, 08:02 AM
Where is the corporate India Inc hiding, even silly call centres have small but fancy buildings. I was watching 'guru greg by abc'(must watch, and why he was treated in such an unfair manner, and now now not because Im an aussie) on you tube. There is a clip where greg chappel seems to introduce the head quarters of the super rich BCCI, and believe me its a shocker. There should already have been new commercial skyscrapers owned by tatas, ambanis, infosys, and other fortune 1000 companies. Makes me wonder where do these people work who pay 30-40 crores for the new and old spunky apartments.

yashchauhan
September 17th, 2009, 10:32 AM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2092/2194317323_b788d8d62d.jpg?v=0

Don't be sad.BCCI headquarters have been shifted!

India101
September 17th, 2009, 12:14 PM
This is Mahim. How is the Elphinstone Mills complex in Mahim? :dunno:

I think that is the Ruby Mills tower?

ab041937
September 17th, 2009, 12:20 PM
Sorry to disappoint all of you guys, the elphinstone mills tower is almost completed. its total height is only 20 storeys. nothing 60+ as we were thinking it to be.

i had taken a photogrph of the (almost) completed tower about a month back. I will post that over the weekend.

Bloody KLPD :mad2:

indianpatriot
September 17th, 2009, 12:55 PM
I think that is the Ruby Mills tower?
You are spot on. The photo that Sun posted is of Ruby mills tower.
As kalyan has mentioned ,the elphinstone tower is topped out since june this year and is of 20 floors.

bhargavsura
September 18th, 2009, 02:51 PM
Where is the corporate India Inc hiding, even silly call centres have small but fancy buildings. I was watching 'guru greg by abc'(must watch, and why he was treated in such an unfair manner, and now now not because Im an aussie) on you tube. There is a clip where greg chappel seems to introduce the head quarters of the super rich BCCI, and believe me its a shocker. There should already have been new commercial skyscrapers owned by tatas, ambanis, infosys, and other fortune 1000 companies. Makes me wonder where do these people work who pay 30-40 crores for the new and old spunky apartments.

Why are you surprised?

Cov Boy
September 18th, 2009, 03:29 PM
Shocking in what sense?

Can you post the video from youtube here?

Lets all see it.

I think India Inc is still operating from mostly the Fort area of Mumbai as Tata, Ambani's have their headquarters there & their operations (offices) spread out India? Although why do all corporates need fancy buildings? Just because your a rich company do you have to work in a glass skycraper?

Infosys, Wipro, etc have their trendy campuses spread out like a park in Pune, Bangalore, Hyderbad, Kolkata, Mysore etc, so at least they are not hiding.

Perhaps Tata are hiding under the true wealth and dont want to flaunt it?

Mahratta
September 19th, 2009, 05:11 AM
So the tower this thread was made for has been scrapped, then?

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-

Bombay Boy
September 19th, 2009, 07:46 AM
I think India Inc is still operating from mostly the Fort area of Mumbai as Tata, Ambani's have their headquarters there & their operations (offices) spread out India? Although why do all corporates need fancy buildings? Just because your a rich company do you have to work in a glass skycraper?

bombay house and reliance house are much prettier than 99% of the skyscrapers you see

Cov Boy
September 21st, 2009, 11:49 AM
^^Exactly!

tall_dreams
September 21st, 2009, 09:38 PM
Since this is not going to be 60 fl please modify the topic name accordingly.

sirius_reamus
September 29th, 2009, 06:56 PM
this elphistone mills tower...............isnt it the "ONE INDIABULLS CENTRE"??


frm d pics posted early i am damn sure it is "ONE INDIABULLS CENTRE" coz i see it everyday since i stay close to this elphistone place.

also the BEAU MONDE and SUMER TRINITY are right next to my building.

let me share u my experience when i go up on d terrace. the view in awesome.

the BEAU MONDE rocks in d night with its awesome display of colourfull lights.

frm terrace i can also see the PAREL | Shangri-La Hotel | WORLI | Raheja Atlantis WORLI | RNA Mirage WORLI | Raheja Legend | etc


also close to 20 tall structures under construction in area covered frm worli to parel to lower parel....... the view its AWESOME.....


i am eagerly waiting to see all d building completed finisd dat wud be a view to watch for hours....!!


also does anyone knows wats gonna come up in d bombay dyeing mill which has recently been demolishd.......frm d terrace i can see barren land, they are clearing the rubble and debris......does anyone hav any clue wats gonna be bulid there??

amhrpi
September 29th, 2009, 10:19 PM
this elphistone mills tower.......does anyone hav any clue wats gonna be bulid there??

Hey sirius_reamus, its great that live close enough to enjoy these sights daily. Can you please take some pictures and post them here. :) Pretty please with a cherry on top.

ab041937
October 4th, 2009, 08:59 AM
Ok!! There is a double treat from Indiabulls. Indiabulls Sky Suites is going to be built in the neighborhood of Indiabulls Sky. Could this be the Elphinstone Mills Tower? I don't think there is any other Indiabulls highrise in the close vicinity apart from Elphinstone Mills Tower that matches Indiabulls Sky.

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/8441/ad0141428m.png (http://img8.imageshack.us/i/ad0141428m.png/)

Original Ad (http://lite.epaper.timesofindia.com/mobile.aspx?article=yes&pageid=14&edlabel=TOIM&mydateHid=04-10-2009&pubname=&edname=&articleid=Ad01400&format=&publabel=TOI)

India101
October 4th, 2009, 11:57 AM
^I hope its not Elphinstone Mills, because wasn't it meant to be commercial.

bharatiya
October 6th, 2009, 03:19 AM
When is construction planned to start? And the old design was much better.. :ohno:

IndiansUnite
October 10th, 2009, 01:34 AM
Ok!! There is a double treat from Indiabulls. Indiabulls Sky Suites is going to be built in the neighborhood of Indiabulls Sky. Could this be the Elphinstone Mills Tower? I don't think there is any other Indiabulls highrise in the close vicinity apart from Elphinstone Mills Tower that matches Indiabulls Sky.

^I hope its not Elphinstone Mills, because wasn't it meant to be commercial.

It's going to be built at the Elphinstone Mills. Here's IPIT's announcement (http://www.thenextview.com/sgxnews/20091003_212001_F3EU_D5E7C6F1B99C2FD04825764300265DF7.1.pdf) at Singapore stock exchange:

LAUNCH OF RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT AT INDIABULLS FINANCE CENTRE

Launch of Residential Component

Further to Unitholders’ approval, at an extraordinary general meeting of unitholders of IPIT on 29 September 2009, of the expansion of the principal objectives of Indiabulls Properties Investment Trust (“IPIT”) which allows IPIT the flexibility to develop office, retail, residential and/or hospitality components in its portfolio (with at least the majority1 comprising income-producing office space), Indiabulls Property Management Trustee Pte. Ltd., as trustee-manager of IPIT (the “Trustee- Manager”), wishes to announce that a residential component will be launched on 4 October 2009 for sale by IPIT at Indiabulls Finance Centre under the brand name of “Indiabulls Sky Suites”. This is in addition to the launch of the residential component at One Indiabulls Centre under the brand name of “Indiabulls Sky” on 23 August 2009, which was announced by the Trustee-Manager on 22 August 2009.

Consistent with other similar launches of residential projects in Mumbai, other details of the launch such as the exact price for each unit and the total area of the project have not been fixed and will be influenced by the interest of purchasers as well as the success of the launch, and the total area of the project would be subject to receipt of approvals from the relevant regulatory authorities. Where appropriate, the Trustee-Manager will provide relevant updates in its quarterly results announcements.

By Order of the Board
Indiabulls Property Management Trustee Pte. Ltd.
(as trustee-manager of Indiabulls Properties Investment Trust)
(Company registration no. 200720456G)

Chatri Trisiripisal
Chairman and Independent Director
Singapore
3 October 2009

IndiansUnite
November 5th, 2009, 05:58 AM
I just received a brochure of Sky Suites from a guy in IB. The brochure quality is rather poor (cos it's scanned), something that was unexpected from IB. anyhow, presenting to you Indiabulls Sky Suites:

render:
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/5378/41421092.jpg

location:
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/1268/33305209.jpg
It looks like Sky Forest will be located to the right of Sky in the Jupiter Mills compound.

configurations:
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/7857/45425378.jpg

footprint:
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/3881/47069181.jpg

Lobby:
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6726/16747593.jpg


The brochure can be viewed here --> clicky (https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B-c2HdvemiEGNGRkYTIzNTUtZjYwNS00MzU2LTg3MWMtNTlkYjg3YWNhZTI1&hl=en)

bhargavsura
November 5th, 2009, 06:40 AM
Awaiting the developments.

raucous_zombie
November 6th, 2009, 08:21 AM
well i got news tht sky is done with 6 months of construction..
sky suites is yet to b started n forest ws just launched 2 days back ..
sky is sold out ...sky suites around 50 flats sold.. damn !!!
sky sold out in unbelievable 1 n half months time !!

IndiansUnite
January 21st, 2010, 07:30 AM
From LERA's website -


This project consists of a multi building development. The scope includes a design for the Sky Suites, a 75 story, 810 ft (247 m) tower that will contain apartments, parking and related amenity in a 1,830,800sf (170,000sm) building envelope. Other parcels to be developed for residential use include the Sky Tower, which will stand at a height of 945 ft (288 m) when completed.
http://www.lera.com/projects/in/indiabullsresid.htm


They also mention that the architects are seattle based Callison Architecture. Keep an eye on their website ->http://www.callison.com/ for quality renders

IndiansUnite
April 18th, 2010, 06:25 AM
There has been yet another redesign. Cross posting from the Sky page:

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/1967/2263584large.jpg (http://img13.imageshack.us/i/2263584large.jpg/)

Indiabulls development

http://www.lera.com/projects/in/indiabullsresid.htm

:cheers::cheers:

Nice find there. The 2nd sky forest tower looks like it'll consist of 60 odd floors. Here's a render with all the IB projects labeled to give a better perspective of the site development that will take place:

http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/1967/2263584large.jpg

The sky forest towers sit on top of a 11 floor public parking lot consisting of 2 basements, 1 ground and 9 upper floors.

jeevanasha
June 11th, 2010, 09:34 PM
Wonder what is happening with IB sky suites and sky forest bookings and construction after launch of world one?

Bombay Boy
June 12th, 2010, 06:02 AM
they should be more worried about the dlf project. will block a major part of their view

IndiansUnite
July 15th, 2010, 05:19 AM
Morgan Stanley recently published their evaluation of IB Real Estate's stock performance on July 1. The report carried site images of the sky towers from mid April. Image forwarded by a buddy of mine -

April 16 - working on the basement foundation
http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/7569/skysuites.jpg

KuwarOnline
July 15th, 2010, 08:44 AM
Morgan Stanley recently published their evaluation of IB Real Estate's stock performance on July 1. The report carried site images of the sky towers from mid April. Image forwarded by a buddy of mine -

can you give us link/source????

IndiansUnite
July 16th, 2010, 11:00 PM
If there was a link, I would have provided it. The source is Morgan Stanley's report on India Bulls like I mentioned in my post.

Coolguyz
September 23rd, 2010, 11:31 AM
IB financial center/ Sky suites
http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/7336/ped084.jpg (http://img844.imageshack.us/i/ped084.jpg/)
The underground sections are done i guess, they are working on ground floor now
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/8448/ped085.jpg (http://img15.imageshack.us/i/ped085.jpg/)

Cov Boy
September 24th, 2010, 11:56 PM
I dont like the way India One Bulls Centre is blocked from view by Sky Forest.

India101
September 25th, 2010, 01:39 AM
I guess they had no choice a the plot of land is quiet small. But soon most of Mumbai's buildings will be hidden behind new large buildings.

MpowerRealty
September 25th, 2010, 08:49 AM
Its a huge Mills Land. Earlier IndiaBulls had planned to make a Hotel and a Phoenix Mills like open Mall and keep the center part open, but due to the recession and diping rent rate and increasing residential demand, they had no option but to cover the One Indiabulls Center. They don't care of blocking anything. Its all about growth and money.

kgnsk
September 25th, 2010, 02:48 PM
Its never about growth...Its always about Greed...Wat about the guys who bought space behind seeing the huge open space in front...

Its a huge Mills Land. Earlier IndiaBulls had planned to make a Hotel and a Phoenix Mills like open Mall and keep the center part open, but due to the recession and diping rent rate and increasing residential demand, they had no option but to cover the One Indiabulls Center. They don't care of blocking anything. Its all about growth and money.

India101
October 4th, 2010, 06:13 AM
A bit older update

August 28
Copyright MPE
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/4589/4212oth28thaug2010.jpg

KuwarOnline
October 4th, 2010, 10:56 AM
great update. is that around 10+ floors? already constructed? look at left one,,,, :cheers:

Coolguyz
October 4th, 2010, 01:14 PM
great update. is that around 10+ floors? already constructed? look at left one,,,, :cheers:

This is the site for Sky not Sky suites, the building in the background is the IB financial structure. All the 3 IB residential projects are at ground floor level except for sky which has reached 1st level or so.

KuwarOnline
October 4th, 2010, 03:29 PM
thanks :)

Coolguyz
November 18th, 2010, 10:58 AM
I guess we can change the status to UC now??
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/1340/img0109mw.jpg (http://img210.imageshack.us/i/img0109mw.jpg/)

KuwarOnline
November 18th, 2010, 11:13 AM
I guess we can change the status to UC now??


+1

sixsigma1978
November 18th, 2010, 04:11 PM
Created a thread in the international proposed

bhargavsura
November 19th, 2010, 12:24 AM
I can't believe a number of nice looking structures coming up. This is going to be fantastic. Thanks for the update coolguyz.

India101
December 16th, 2010, 09:56 AM
Some quick shots I took from Senapati Bapat Marg

Nov 26
Copyright India101
http://i54.tinypic.com/30jtu9d.jpg

http://i52.tinypic.com/2v3ja0h.jpg

Coolguyz
February 18th, 2011, 10:37 AM
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/4d905eb259.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

jaadu
February 19th, 2011, 05:26 AM
So its out of the hole now ..

Thanks Coolguyz !!

India101
February 19th, 2011, 06:46 AM
No, looks like 2 more to go.

Coolguyz
March 22nd, 2011, 12:13 PM
After being ignored by sky forest and IB India one centre, this one is all set to move upwards, cranes by Potain are being assembled(everything in yellow)

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/c14421dd7a.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

deekshith
March 22nd, 2011, 03:30 PM
Thanks for the update coolguyz

KuwarOnline
March 23rd, 2011, 11:08 AM
great update as always :)

Coolguyz
April 6th, 2011, 02:15 PM
looks like 3 cranes are the norms everywhere,

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/e98854b308.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

bhargavsura
April 7th, 2011, 02:45 AM
Tusi chha gaye ho Coolguyz aaj.

sixsigma1978
April 21st, 2011, 04:27 PM
Guys - any clue as to what will be the final height of this project?
I checked the website (http://indiabulls.com/realestate/sky_suites/index.html)- in the obscure flash intro - they stopped at 748 feet = 227 m.

So guessing this isn't a supertall?

India101
April 22nd, 2011, 02:25 AM
^ ^ ^
That figure does not signify the actual height of the tower. Check out the same flash illustration on the sky and sky suites' pages:

http://www.indiabulls.com/realestate/sky/index.html
http://www.indiabulls.com/realestate/sky_suites/index.html

They go to the same 748 feet figure. Now of course that's not true.

Coolguyz
May 11th, 2011, 10:59 AM
http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/1333/20110511095058.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/848/20110511095058.jpg/)

dunefreezer
May 12th, 2011, 02:35 AM
Construction is still going on....Nice Coolguyz

Savz
May 31st, 2011, 02:31 PM
"Indiabulls Sky Suites - Update 30-05-2011"
Copyright @ Savio F

In the foreground,
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/3429/30052011004.jpg

sixsigma1978
June 21st, 2011, 07:29 PM
What the hell is this???


The Maharashtra Pollution Control Board (MPCB) has pulled the plug on the gleaming glass and steel highrises being built in Lower Parel’s Elphinstone Mills on the grounds that environmental clearance was not obtained for the project.

The MPCB issued a stop-work notice to Indiabulls Real Estate Limited’s project on June 17. As per the Consent to Establish issued by MPCB to the project, the developer was required to start work only after obtaining an environmental clearance from the state environmental department.

The notice states that since the developer has carried out the project in violation of the rules, he will have to stop construction immediately or face legal action. Indiabulls Real Estate Limited has also been made to forfeit the Rs 10 lakh bank guarantee it placed before the MPCB while procuring the Consent to Establish.

The project is among 12 others that were served a showcause notice by MPCB last November for not having obtained the mandatory environmental clearance. All these buildings used the extra FSI available for constructions that generate public parking.

Source : Link (http://www.indianexpress.com/news/mpcb-issues-stopwork-notice-to-indiabulls-lower-parel-project/806337")

Cov Boy
June 21st, 2011, 08:59 PM
India Bulls Finance Centre & the new residential tower next to it?

dunefreezer
June 21st, 2011, 09:35 PM
AHh....What the eff :gaah:
Has there been any building in India that followed all the rules and got built without facing an obstacle?

sixsigma1978
June 21st, 2011, 10:23 PM
So basically:

Waqf Board - India Tower
DGCA - World One, Wadala Iconic Tower
Pollution Control : Indiabulls Sky

Lets just demolish all high rise and build slums over it!! That'll keep these medieval geriatrics happy!!!

Vicky007
June 21st, 2011, 10:41 PM
Famous Crab mentality at play here.

The Vested interest group comprising of corrupt netas, pseudo secularists and the environ(mental)ists would rather see slums everywhere.

williemore
June 21st, 2011, 11:45 PM
you mean to let developers building supertalls free w/o getting environmental clearances? for a kick ass skyline?? i hope that's not wat you meant... but i don't know where these environmentalists or concerned authorities go when pple are building slums... this is all for receiving grants or cuts...

dunefreezer
June 22nd, 2011, 03:07 AM
So basically:

Waqf Board - India Tower
DGCA - World One, Wadala Iconic Tower
Pollution Control : Indiabulls Sky

Lets just demolish all high rise and build slums over it!! That'll keep these medieval geriatrics happy!!!

+1...Now thats how we should express frustration over bullshit like this.

deekshith
June 22nd, 2011, 05:12 AM
Only sky suites is on hold

Developer gets MPCB notice on Parel land

The Maharashtra Pollution Control Board (MPCB) issued a stop-work order to Indiabulls Real Estate for starting construction work on its Elphinstone Mills property at Lower Parel without environment clearance.

The notice, signed by board member secretary R Mopalwaar on June 17 directed Indiabulls to stop work "which was started in violation of the consent to establish granted to you and for non-compliance of directions issued on January 27, 2011..." It further warned that the board will have "no option than to take further stringent legal action against you, including filing of prosecution for violations of environmental law".

Indiabulls purchased the eight-acre mill land for Rs 441 crore from the National Textiles Corporation in 2005. A spokesperson for Indiabulls told TOI, "We have received a stop-work notice pertaining to the residential project (Sky Suites) from MPCB today. There is no work happening on the site since the last few months as we are awaiting environmental clearance."

LINK (http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-06-21/mumbai/29682796_1_mpcb-stop-work-notice-indiabulls)

aksstar
June 22nd, 2011, 05:14 AM
^^ What the F*** is wrong with this country. It's stories like these that give me little hope for the future.

India101
June 22nd, 2011, 05:38 AM
Normally it's ridiculous reasons for stopping construction, but this time it serves Indiabulls right for not waiting for environmental clearance.

Bombay Boy
June 22nd, 2011, 08:26 AM
So basically:

Waqf Board - India Tower
DGCA - World One, Wadala Iconic Tower
Pollution Control : Indiabulls Sky

Lets just demolish all high rise and build slums over it!! That'll keep these medieval geriatrics happy!!!

lets just not follow any rules and let builders do what they want right? after all thats the best way forward

MeMumbaikar
June 22nd, 2011, 09:04 AM
or rather

lets have so many bullshit rules that commerce and everything is affected. Lets dress our wives mothers and sisters in lots of red tape.

Chrisel
June 22nd, 2011, 09:36 AM
I'm all for rules, but not when the process of obtaining clearances is not streamlined. Zoning and bylaws would seem like a good alternative with community involvement.
The more the red tape, the more the bureaucracy and greater the chances of corruption. Sad really.

sixsigma1978
June 22nd, 2011, 03:56 PM
lets just not follow any rules and let builders do what they want right? after all thats the best way forward

Do you know how many clearances are required for getting any project off in this messed up bureaucracy? There outght to be some pretty standardized rules for getting approvals for getting projects off the ground - the irritants come in when government machinery on pretext of milking the project comes along at various stages - Pollution Control board across the nation is at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to graft - they're notorious for arbitarily issuing notices to pre-approved projects on one clause or the other!!
(You might want to follow the nonsense PCB's in NCR had done during the Yamuna clean up campaign - the most polluting industries got a clean chit because they could pay - whilst the "ghat" based poor tanneries (which do contribute a lot I admit) were booted out!!)

Sorry - If MCPB was an organization with squeaky clean credentials - I would have supported this !!

FYI - Sky suites is one of the new "GREEN" building!! If anything - PCB should be shutting down the heavy industries in Dharavi and the few functioning mills that are still using the old soviet era polluting machinery!!
I bet you in two seconds the goverment will come out with an internal memo to tell MCPB officials to shut up!! Vote bank!!!
I made the same argument about India Tower - WAQF BOARD has almost stopped work on that project!! WAQF BOARD!! Are you seriously going to suggest that THAT TOO was justified??

Or the fact that DGCA capped the Iconic tower in WADALA!! DGCA is trying to cap World One!! They may as well cap ALL super talls in Mumbai!! Are you seriously going to tell me you're ok with that??? How is it possible that a city liek New York can have La Guardia in its midst and DGCA of India has issues with towers more than 10-15 km away???

As for some of the "ideals" some SSCians have posted :I've said time and time again - in India - you cannot afford to have the same moral considerations the West has - NOTHING will get off the ground - because our government has none - in our ying for their yang - we have to work with this reality!! We need Lavasas, India Towers, Sky suites, Yamuna expressways.. else we should keep our mouths shut whenever a Chinese comes out rebukes us about how far behind we are the Chinese whenever the India vs China debate comes up - and be happy with our dharavis and shoddy image our cities have globally!!

We're #86 on unholy most corrupt countries list - even if a few rules need to be deviated because of our hopeless position in that infamous list - so be it!! Else - lets be content with our now global "Slumdog" image!!

Vicky007
June 22nd, 2011, 05:23 PM
you mean to let developers building supertalls free w/o getting environmental clearances? for a kick ass skyline?? i hope that's not wat you meant... but i don't know where these environmentalists or concerned authorities go when pple are building slums... this is all for receiving grants or cuts...

Certainly.It is all for getting cuts and kickbacks.

Name one other city in India which requires environ(mental) clearance to build a tall building. The environmental babus have got themselves in the mix knowing how lucrative Mumbai construction sweepstakes are. They want a part of the cut too.
The Environmental ministry and its offices are by far the most corrupt .Just check the rates they charge for giving various clearances (NOC's) to the textile processing (Dyeing) houses and chemical units located in and around Mumbai and you will know what i mean.

dunefreezer
June 22nd, 2011, 05:26 PM
^^ Well Said. Following the rules is a wise thing....but depends on the situation.

Bombay Boy
June 22nd, 2011, 06:01 PM
Name one other city in India which requires environ(mental) clearance to build a tall building. The environmental babus have got themselves in the mix knowing how lucrative Mumbai construction sweepstakes are.

what? environmental clearance is required for any project above a certain area or above a certain project cost. it has nothing to do with building height or its location

we all know the people who implement the law are rotten, whether its mpcb or bmc or police or whatever. but what people should be asking for is better implementation, faster clearances and less corruption. not giving a free hand to builders, who are about as bad as the people they seek clearances from

williemore
June 22nd, 2011, 10:50 PM
^^ couldn't agree more...

skydrill
June 24th, 2011, 03:14 PM
mumbai will look like any world class city after 4-5 yrs......

mooktada
June 24th, 2011, 04:23 PM
mumbai will look like any world class city after 4-5 yrs......

ROFL.. obviousily you have been to any other world class city.

Vicky007
June 24th, 2011, 06:32 PM
what? environmental clearance is required for any project above a certain area or above a certain project cost. it has nothing to do with building height or its location

Can you give more info or link on this? Since when has (Real estate) Project cost become a criteria for environmental clearance? Why should environment ministry poke its (dirty) nose in Real estate projects? Shouldnt it be better off in deploying its bloated bureaucracy in monitoring chemical and other polluting units??
In the name of protecting the coast (Mumbai being a coastsal city) the environment ministry has found a way to take their cut from Mumbai Projects and hence made the clearances a senseless red tape procedure.
If area or project cost is a criteria(That itself sounds dubious) can you show me any link to any such clearances being made a mandatory step for other big developments(Real estate related) in other Cities?


we all know the people who implement the law are rotten, whether its mpcb or bmc or police or whatever. but what people should be asking for is better implementation, faster clearances and less corruption. not giving a free hand to builders, who are about as bad as the people they seek clearances from

Coudnt agree more.

williemore
June 24th, 2011, 06:54 PM
environment clearance should be required for tall buildings... m not sure if a 4 storey needs a similar process... but apart from wat happens under tables, mostly it should be to ensure about resources that a building would consume, how construction would affect population and resources around the place... i.e. the overall impact on the neighborhood... then who grades the quality of materials used? or earthquake resistant design... don't you need environment clearance for that as well?

Bombay Boy
June 24th, 2011, 08:27 PM
Can you give more info or link on this? Since when has (Real estate) Project cost become a criteria for environmental clearance? Why should environment ministry poke its (dirty) nose in Real estate projects? Shouldnt it be better off in deploying its bloated bureaucracy in monitoring chemical and other polluting units??
In the name of protecting the coast (Mumbai being a coastsal city) the environment ministry has found a way to take their cut from Mumbai Projects and hence made the clearances a senseless red tape procedure.
If area or project cost is a criteria(That itself sounds dubious) can you show me any link to any such clearances being made a mandatory step for other big developments(Real estate related) in other Cities?

http://www.cseindia.org/node/403

http://www.cseindia.org/sites/default/files/schedule.pdf

there is no special 'mumbai' law. thats absurd

Vicky007
June 25th, 2011, 07:52 AM
http://www.cseindia.org/node/403

http://www.cseindia.org/sites/default/files/schedule.pdf

there is no special 'mumbai' law. thats absurd

Thats precisely my point is there a single instance of environment ministry cracking the whip on any "stand alone" development project in any other city?

I have been through the link you gave(thanks).Its truly absurd that while all other activities listed above has a connection with Envronment, what has buliding and construction project (listed as single project -8 a) got to do with Environment?
Note the listing has created 8b specifically for large township and area development projects.

Vicky007
June 25th, 2011, 07:55 AM
environment clearance should be required for tall buildings... m not sure if a 4 storey needs a similar process... but apart from wat happens under tables, mostly it should be to ensure about resources that a building would consume, how construction would affect population and resources around the place... i.e. the overall impact on the neighborhood... then who grades the quality of materials used? or earthquake resistant design... don't you need environment clearance for that as well?

The earthquake resistant and other design parameters is something that the local municipal authorities look into before passing the Project. The Environment clearance has got nothing to do with it.

Bombay Boy
June 25th, 2011, 10:24 AM
Thats precisely my point is there a single instance of environment ministry cracking the whip on any "stand alone" development project in any other city?

I have been through the link you gave(thanks).Its truly absurd that while all other activities listed above has a connection with Envronment, what has buliding and construction project (listed as single project -8 a) got to do with Environment?
Note the listing has created 8b specifically for large township and area development projects.

large buildings have large outputs of sewage and waste and large inputs of power and water. not to mention waste disposal during construction. this affects the environment in its immediate locality. the tests and clearances needed for large buildings will of course not be as stringent as those for coal power plants, etc

you dont hear about projects that have obtained clearances and are doing things legally. you'll only hear of those that have not done so. there are hundreds of large projects in bombay alone. how many are in the news?

Vicky007
June 26th, 2011, 05:27 PM
Sewage and waste control and diposal are(were?) domains hitherto under local Municipal control.similarly Power and Water connections come from the local utility companies and environment ministry has got nothing to do with it.

The Environment ministry has through sweeping legislation made the Provision for connections for these utilities and access to sewage and waste control and dispersal conditional to "environment clearances".

Having environment ministry supervise the large single construction projects as they "will" require waste, power and water resources is like having the local police look and hunt only for rapists and murderers and letting the ordinary chain snatcher on the road go as he is a lesser threat to the society.

The point i am trying to make is clearly environment minsitry wants to chase the big projects for the assured big bucks.Otherwise if it was really the environment they are concerned about they would make the clearance conditional uniformly.

You are right we dont hear about other projects and they are not in the news as they get clearances (read given Bribes).Its when the other Projects are held ransom to by the environment babus(Read demanding Bribes at a higher rate )that they come into and become news.

It would be really interesting to find out the objections of the ministry for clearances for the Big Projects being denied (held ransom to) and how the "danger to environment" magically disappers after a certain time when the big projects are "deemed to be in compliance".

Bombay Boy
June 26th, 2011, 06:30 PM
its quite interesting that you believe the builders are angels and the ministry is the devil, esp since indiabulls admits it doesnt have clearances

Vicky007
June 27th, 2011, 05:51 PM
No my message throughout has been that this is just one more roadblock created in developing the city.Needless to say the roadblock is temporary or permenant depending on how/whether the env department is paid.

Coolguyz
August 9th, 2011, 11:27 AM
Work now movin on

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/329/20110809094924.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/692/20110809094924.jpg/)

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India101
August 9th, 2011, 01:29 PM
Yay, thanks CG :)

But also can't believe how close this is to the Financial Center.

Coolguyz
August 9th, 2011, 01:39 PM
Yup,it is close.
OT Axis Bank has taken up space in Financial centre

deekshith
August 9th, 2011, 02:01 PM
Thanks CG :cheers::cheers:

dunefreezer
August 9th, 2011, 09:13 PM
Yeah...Great One CG....Man..I love Glass.

deekshith
August 27th, 2011, 09:47 AM
from indiabulls analyst presentation

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/497/unled1kgi.jpg

amitsingh08
August 29th, 2011, 04:32 PM
Does anyone have floor plans for sky forest, or sky suite? Floor plans for sky are at
http://www.allcheckdeals.com/project...rel-mumbai.php

Jai
August 29th, 2011, 09:17 PM
It never really clicked for me how relatively thin Sky Suites is. It should look striking with that facade

IndiansUnite
August 30th, 2011, 07:10 AM
If you notice carefully then you'll see two towers connected via sky bridges.

Just for the record, the design is being reworked by Hafeez Contractor according to someone at IB with whom I spoke with.

Savz
September 5th, 2011, 06:43 PM
05-09-2011
Copyright@me
http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/1658/img0564vp.jpg

Savz
September 10th, 2011, 12:38 PM
Indiabulls Sky Suites Update - 09-09-2011
Copyright@Savz
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/120/img0609qzh.jpg

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/6618/img0608u.jpg

bulletproofmonk
January 18th, 2012, 03:16 PM
[QUOTE=bulletproofmonk;87664933]

Indiabulls obtained environmental clearance for sky Forest and sky Suites:

http://ec.maharashtra.gov.in/files/SEIAA_MoM_43.pdf

Clearance now up to 170m, additional 100m at civil aviation discretion.

deekshith
January 28th, 2012, 06:28 PM
Jan 26th 2012.

Photo copyright: firoze shakir photographerno1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/firozeshakir/6775252929/in/photostream/)

http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/6233/81176326.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/859/81176326.jpg/)

nishanth.kh9
January 28th, 2012, 07:45 PM
Is this project on hold or resumed..

TutConr
January 29th, 2012, 11:25 AM
Whats that person doing behind the barrier in the picture above? Painting ?

Savz
January 29th, 2012, 04:06 PM
29-01-2012

http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/1213/20120129151111.jpg

bhargavsura
January 29th, 2012, 07:21 PM
Whats that person doing behind the barrier in the picture above? Painting ?

That man is a victim of Chris Angel's tricks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2jatJcKyp0):lol:

India101
January 29th, 2012, 11:53 PM
Savz, you have accidentally posted a pic of Sky Forest instead of Suites.

bulletproofmonk
January 31st, 2012, 01:24 PM
What is that new u/c building left to One Indiabulls Centre??

29-01-2012

http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/1213/20120129151111.jpg

ubermeow
January 31st, 2012, 01:43 PM
Looks like an adjoining parking lot to me


What is that new u/c building left to One Indiabulls Centre??

bulletproofmonk
January 31st, 2012, 02:18 PM
Looks like an adjoining parking lot to me



The document from the link below says at page-17, "At One Indiabulls Centre, the construction of the residual commercial space (in addition to Towers 1 and 2 which have already been completed and are fully operational) is being currently carried out."

So, it looks like additional commercial space at One Indiabulls Centre.

LINK:

http://info.sgx.com/webcoranncatth.nsf/VwAttachments/Att_63568775C2B6679D48257992004D3746/$file/IPIT_Q32012_Results_Announcement.pdf?openelement

http://info.sgx.com/icons/vwicn005.gif IPIT_Q32012_Results_Announcement.pdf (http://info.sgx.com/webcoranncatth.nsf/VwAttachments/Att_63568775C2B6679D48257992004D3746/$file/IPIT_Q32012_Results_Announcement.pdf?openelement)
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deekshith
January 31st, 2012, 02:23 PM
Self deleted: Wrong information

Ashbaggins
March 4th, 2012, 05:54 PM
Some photos of the Indiabulls Financial Centre and the Sky Suites construction site.

Copyright: Ashbaggins

http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/4109/20120304123924.jpg

http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/1856/20120304123928.jpg

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/2774/20120304100216.jpg

http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/7430/20120304100214.jpg

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/8246/20120304100211.jpg

BombayPG
March 25th, 2012, 07:02 AM
"In a breather to six realty majors, the Bombay High Court has stuck down the notices issued by the Brihanmumbai Municipal Corporation (BMC) to their projects constructed under the parking FSI policy.

These include luxury residential projects like DB Realty’s Orchid Crown at Prabhadevi, Indiabulls Sky Forest at Jupiter Mills and Sky Suites at Elphinstone Mills, the proposed 117-storey World One Tower by Lodha at Shrinivas Mills, Kohinoor Square at Kohinoor Mills in Dadar and Palais Royale at Shreeram Mills in Worli. These were the first few projects that were approved under the BMC’s policy of allowing developers a maximum FSI of 4 if they construct a public parking lot on their plot and hand it over to the BMC.

The policy, once enforced in August 2009, resulted in a spate of projects where the parking lots were as high as 15 storeys so that the developers could get the extra FSI and construct 50-storey high-rises."

More here -

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/hc-strikes-down-civic-body-showcauses-to-6-developers/925756/

The project is still on hold. I think they are waiting on a few more contentious issues. The major one being the compensatory FSI for open spaces. We should see some movement in 2 - 3 months.

bayvee
May 14th, 2012, 04:34 PM
Joining the site as a new member and owner of Sky Suites.

the current status is

1) environmental clearance obtained, subject to reduction in build up area
2) reduction shall be achieved through a reduction reduction of height as other options are not available (plynth is ready)
3) nearly sold out, some stock kept by IB, yet not marketed now
4) expected prices now around 28000 rs per salable sqft ++, will move once project will be back on track
5) expected re-start mid 2012, with floor speed of 1 floor per 2 weeks, expecting delivery within 3 years from restart

sixsigma1978
May 14th, 2012, 07:18 PM
What was the objection raised by the Environment Ministry to the original built up area?

bulletproofmonk
May 15th, 2012, 09:21 AM
Joining the site as a new member and owner of Sky Suites.

the current status is

1) environmental clearance obtained, subject to reduction in build up area
2) reduction shall be achieved through a reduction reduction of height as other options are not available (plynth is ready)
3) nearly sold out, some stock kept by IB, yet not marketed now
4) expected prices now around 28000 rs per salable sqft ++, will move once project will be back on track
5) expected re-start mid 2012, with floor speed of 1 floor per 2 weeks, expecting delivery within 3 years from restart

Thanks bayvee for the update!

I think they have no problem with EC (environmental clearance) after their minor-recast couple of months ago. The current bottlenext seems to be due to BMC asking for changes in the earlier approved public-parking free-FSI scheme and also charges for non-FSI areas as per recent DCR amendments. Once the issue is resolved with BMC, construction will probably restart.

Earlier post about BMC-Indiabulls tussle:

"In a breather to six realty majors, the Bombay High Court has stuck down the notices issued by the Brihanmumbai Municipal Corporation (BMC) to their projects constructed under the parking FSI policy.

These include luxury residential projects like DB Realty’s Orchid Crown at Prabhadevi, Indiabulls Sky Forest at Jupiter Mills and Sky Suites at Elphinstone Mills, the proposed 117-storey World One Tower by Lodha at Shrinivas Mills, Kohinoor Square at Kohinoor Mills in Dadar and Palais Royale at Shreeram Mills in Worli. These were the first few projects that were approved under the BMC’s policy of allowing developers a maximum FSI of 4 if they construct a public parking lot on their plot and hand it over to the BMC.

The policy, once enforced in August 2009, resulted in a spate of projects where the parking lots were as high as 15 storeys so that the developers could get the extra FSI and construct 50-storey high-rises."

More here -

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/hc-strikes-down-civic-body-showcauses-to-6-developers/925756/

The project is still on hold. I think they are waiting on a few more contentious issues. The major one being the compensatory FSI for open spaces. We should see some movement in 2 - 3 months.

BombayPG
June 14th, 2012, 11:25 AM
"In a breather to six realty majors, the Bombay High Court has stuck down the notices issued by the Brihanmumbai Municipal Corporation (BMC) to their projects constructed under the parking FSI policy.

These include luxury residential projects like DB Realty’s Orchid Crown at Prabhadevi, Indiabulls Sky Forest at Jupiter Mills and Sky Suites at Elphinstone Mills, the proposed 117-storey World One Tower by Lodha at Shrinivas Mills, Kohinoor Square at Kohinoor Mills in Dadar and Palais Royale at Shreeram Mills in Worli. These were the first few projects that were approved under the BMC’s policy of allowing developers a maximum FSI of 4 if they construct a public parking lot on their plot and hand it over to the BMC.

The policy, once enforced in August 2009, resulted in a spate of projects where the parking lots were as high as 15 storeys so that the developers could get the extra FSI and construct 50-storey high-rises."

More here -

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/hc-strikes-down-civic-body-showcauses-to-6-developers/925756/

The project is still on hold. I think they are waiting on a few more contentious issues. The major one being the compensatory FSI for open spaces. We should see some movement in 2 - 3 months.

This project is still on hold. Doesn't look like it's going to get restarted anytime soon. I spoke to some one who works there and all they were willing to say is that they are still waiting on approvals.

kgnsk
June 15th, 2012, 11:31 AM
It's clear to me that they are waiting for a change of the Municipal commissioner...Subodh kumar would never approve their plans with the kind of concessions they wanted free of fsi since they were totally illegal.

I believe they must have not submitted any plans for approvals in the last year fearing that he would take away even the concessions already granted to them in past by earlier commissioners.

They will be hoping that with the new MC, they may stand a better chance to salvage their plans. However, the chances are slim since rules now stand modified. It is only a matter of time, as to when IB realises that the gameplan has now changed and they need to fall within the rules.

It is unfortunate that the buyers are left without any recourse / explanation by IB after having reposed their faith in IB and after having paid large amounts to book flats in their 3 projects believing the large ads put out by IB.

It is high time the law is changed so that a builder is not allowed to sell any apartment till be obtains all approvals/clearances.

This project is still on hold. Doesn't look like it's going to get restarted anytime soon. I spoke to some one who works there and all they were willing to say is that they are still waiting on approvals.

India Rulz
June 17th, 2012, 07:45 AM
They were supposed to complete this baby by 2012...yet its so sad that it'll will take so much time :no:. Is the only skyscraper(>= 250m) to be completed in 2012, the Palais Royale, or am I missing some really cool monster????

Glad One
August 6th, 2012, 09:20 AM
Newspaper reports that the Sky Suites has been approved for parking fsi for 4 floors. Wonder if finally the construction will start!!

dunefreezer
August 6th, 2012, 01:10 PM
Newspaper reports that the Sky Suites has been approved for parking fsi for 4 floors. Wonder if finally the construction will start!!

FSI of 4 or extra 4 floors are approved? there's a difference between the two.

Glad One
August 9th, 2012, 04:27 PM
The FSI of 4 is given on the public parking made which was to be 8 floors of parking but only 4 floors approved so effectively only half of the fsi will be available now.

BombayPG
August 10th, 2012, 05:15 AM
The FSI of 4 is given on the public parking made which was to be 8 floors of parking but only 4 floors approved so effectively only half of the fsi will be available now.

When and which newspaper was this reported in? Do you have a link to the article by any chance?

I searched online but couldn't find it.

Thanks!

Glad One
August 11th, 2012, 03:17 PM
http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/Scripting/ArticleWin.asp?From=Search&Source=Find&Key=MMIR/2012/08/04/10/Ar01002%2Exml&CollName=MMIR_DAILY_2009&DOCID=377910&Keyword=%28%3Cmany%3E%3Cstem%3Epublic%3Cand%3E%3Cmany%3E%3Cstem%3Eparking%29&skin=MIRRORNEW&AppName=1&PageLabel=10%20&ViewMode=HTML


Multi-level parking lots get state go-ahead
Pandurang.Mhaske @timesgroup.com


The state government last month finally approved proposals to set up almost 30,000 multi-storeyed parking lots across the city.
Girish Patil, executive engineer of road, BMC, said the only solution to the city’s parking woes is to create multilevel parking. “We have received the government nod for the same.”
The state had formulated the parking policy in 2002, but scrapped it in 2008 after finding that a number of private builders had been taking undue advantage of the Development Control Regulation (DCR) 33(24) – which allowed builders additional FSI if they constructed public parking spaces. However, using the additional FSI gained from their projects, some builders started building as many as 15 storeys in South Mumbai. This led to fears of overcrowding in areas such as Lower Parel and Worli, where demand for development is high.
The government then revised the policy and proposed the new amendment in April 2011. By July, the state had received and approved 32 proposals. “The state has now restricted construction to four levels,” said Patil. “No builder will be able to exploit the scheme.”
These 32 proposals will provide 29,924 parking slots across the city – 20 proposals are from the island city, 7 from western suburbs and 5 are from eastern suburb. The biggest parking lot among these is at Mumbai Textile Mills, Lower Parel with a capacity to park 4565 cars.

One of the parking lots is supposed to come up in Jupiter Mills compound, Lower Parel

bulletproofmonk
August 11th, 2012, 03:58 PM
http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/Scripting/ArticleWin.asp?From=Search&Source=Find&Key=MMIR/2012/08/04/10/Ar01002%2Exml&CollName=MMIR_DAILY_2009&DOCID=377910&Keyword=%28%3Cmany%3E%3Cstem%3Epublic%3Cand%3E%3Cmany%3E%3Cstem%3Eparking%29&skin=MIRRORNEW&AppName=1&PageLabel=10%20&ViewMode=HTML


Multi-level parking lots get state go-ahead
Pandurang.Mhaske @timesgroup.com



Thanks Glad One!!

BombayPG
August 12th, 2012, 01:57 PM
Multi-level parking lots get state go-ahead
Pandurang.Mhaske @timesgroup.com



Thanks. I think the original plan for Sky Suites had more than 4 floors of parking so they will probably have to reduce the floors/height since the FSI will be reduced.

bayvee
August 29th, 2012, 05:10 AM
Thanks. I think the original plan for Sky Suites had more than 4 floors of parking so they will probably have to reduce the floors/height since the FSI will be reduced.

Do you know by how much and if the floors now remain the same. So say you bought on the 25th, would you still have the same view as before, or would this also be "sinking" ? Thanks

BombayPG
August 30th, 2012, 09:10 AM
Do you know by how much and if the floors now remain the same. So say you bought on the 25th, would you still have the same view as before, or would this also be "sinking" ? Thanks

Sorry I have no idea :(.

If memory serves me correctly you have purchased an apartment here. What is the builder saying?

bayvee
September 2nd, 2012, 05:00 PM
Sorry I have no idea :(.

If memory serves me correctly you have purchased an apartment here. What is the builder saying?

Correct. Not spoken to them for some time now and no news volunteered from their side.

last time there was indeed talk of 4 public parking levels, with separate traffic flows from the residential parking.

From memory, the first habitable floor was the 17 th when the project was conceived.

Will see a what can be found out.

kgnsk
September 2nd, 2012, 07:00 PM
Correct. Not spoken to them for some time now and no news volunteered from their side.

last time there was indeed talk of 4 public parking levels, with separate traffic flows from the residential parking.

From memory, the first habitable floor was the 17 th when the project was conceived.

Will see a what can be found out.

Given my experience with indiabulls on sky..it's a futile exercise to ask them for any update. I think indiabulls no longer considers real estate a focus activity. Moreover key senior staff / directors have left indiabulls and thus there are very little hopes of revival of these projects in the form they were originally marketed. God save those who are investing in bleu..

bayvee
September 4th, 2012, 05:02 PM
Yes, agree it is not all rosy.

bayvee
September 4th, 2012, 05:04 PM
can some tell me how to post a photo, got a shot from Beau Monde higher floor toward Sky. I can also email to you for you to post it if you dont mind. PLease PM me and I ll forward for you to post please.

deekshith
September 4th, 2012, 05:09 PM
Click on this link

How to post photos in Skyscrapercity (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=600498)

BombayPG
September 5th, 2012, 06:41 AM
Given my experience with indiabulls on sky..it's a futile exercise to ask them for any update. I think indiabulls no longer considers real estate a focus activity. Moreover key senior staff / directors have left indiabulls and thus there are very little hopes of revival of these projects in the form they were originally marketed. God save those who are investing in bleu..

It's interesting that till a couple of months ago they were aggressively selling Blu. The advertisements even stated that they are building as per the new DCR and have all the required permissions.

Coolguyz
October 4th, 2012, 11:20 AM
Did see a.lot of activity on this one today

http://imageshack.us/a/img607/8963/201210041420001.jpg

BombayPG
October 4th, 2012, 12:45 PM
Thanks Coolguyz! I think that's a picture of Sky and not Skysuites.

bayvee
October 5th, 2012, 01:56 PM
Two pieces of good news

1) I moved to a building which has good views of all three sky projects, so can keep an eye (from the 17th floor)

2) from this position, i saw today that the red concrete pump on sky is very busy again. the last few days, the lifts had begun to move more frequently, now it seems that the project is back on again. So hopefully this will also have a positive indication for the sky suites project.

Will meet with IB Monday to dsicuss.

dunefreezer
October 5th, 2012, 03:58 PM
Wow, nice to see we have a closer eye who could bring updates on this one more frequently!

BombayPG
October 8th, 2012, 12:20 PM
Two pieces of good news

1) I moved to a building which has good views of all three sky projects, so can keep an eye (from the 17th floor)

2) from this position, i saw today that the red concrete pump on sky is very busy again. the last few days, the lifts had begun to move more frequently, now it seems that the project is back on again. So hopefully this will also have a positive indication for the sky suites project.

Will meet with IB Monday to dsicuss.

Hello Bayvee,

How was your meeting with IB? Any information that you can share with us?

Thanks!

Abinash89
October 9th, 2012, 03:07 PM
Indiabulls is under scanner.Next target of IAC. Should I be happy for our country or sad for these projects?

devendra1
October 9th, 2012, 03:50 PM
the above 2 posts are contradicting. Which one should we believe

Abinash89
October 9th, 2012, 05:07 PM
My comment is based on mr. Kejriwal's speech.It has nothing do with this project in particular.

bayvee
October 10th, 2012, 07:20 AM
Hello Bayvee,

How was your meeting with IB? Any information that you can share with us?

Thanks!

Could restart in 1 month. but don't take out the cakes as yet.

Savz
October 10th, 2012, 08:57 AM
Could restart in 1 month. but don't take out the cakes as yet.

Thats gr8 news.... Lets wait n keep a close watch on this one. If you don't mind Bayvee, can you take separate pics of the site for IB Sky, IB Sky forest and IB Sky suites from you in respective threads before work commences again. We would appreciate that.

hotplate
October 11th, 2012, 12:27 AM
Indiabulls is under scanner.Next target of IAC. Should I be happy for our country or sad for these projects?
@Abhinash

Arvind's remark caught my attention as well. Well, such scrutiny can only be a good thing. It might delay projects which are dubious and rightly so. We can't allow big cos and politicians to run amock, can we? And you know a cleaner system will allow a lot more cos to flourish. Don't be disheartened, we need a purge.

N. Gadkari has been in the news from vidarbha and IB has a power plant in Amravati district. If I were to hazard a guess, it might be related to that.

BombayPG
October 11th, 2012, 07:50 AM
Could restart in 1 month. but don't take out the cakes as yet.

Thank you for the update!

Abinash89
October 11th, 2012, 09:42 AM
@Abhinash

Arvind's remark caught my attention as well. Well, such scrutiny can only be a good thing. It might delay projects which are dubious and rightly so. We can't allow big cos and politicians to run amock, can we? And you know a cleaner system will allow a lot more cos to flourish. Don't be disheartened, we need a purge.

N. Gadkari has been in the news from vidarbha and IB has a power plant in Amravati district. If I were to hazard a guess, it might be related to that.

True.We need transparency in our system.

bayvee
October 12th, 2012, 08:34 AM
Could restart in 1 month. but don't take out the cakes as yet.

Also saw this morning that the "neighbour" project of DB Crown, has also ignited their advertising campaign for the their project, which is just down the road.

This project, aside form the DB related corporate issues, also had similar parking benefits and seems to be back on track also with three towers under development (yet in a single site).

bayvee
October 13th, 2012, 01:14 PM
Could restart in 1 month. but don't take out the cakes as yet.

Maybe being realistic , re start may work like this -

- IB has lost money on the project already due to the delay (cost of development, land and first 20 floors or so, plus redesign, interest - maybe not much as the first part of the project is funded with equity),so i think the loss is more in loss of opportunity then loss of cash
- Gross margin on the project is however quite healthy yet may suffer a bit because of the delay, yet will be sufficiently attractive for IB to complete the project.
- Premium needs now to be paid on all "frivolous" areas to be included in FSI. So that will now indeed be minimized to avoid additional cost. question of the architect doing a better job than before. Expect large balconies to suffer.
- reduced floors would either come from the parking and or from edging out clients and or from more efficient design of apartments (the old one s had quite some fat in them)

Let us see what will come out in weeks to come.

Savz
October 14th, 2012, 06:53 PM
14-10-2012 IB Sky Suites Update
Copyright@Savz

http://s19.postimage.org/cg4rqoucj/2012_10_14_12_56_27.jpg

http://s19.postimage.org/6t8et7rtv/2012_10_14_12_56_34.jpg

bayvee
October 20th, 2012, 12:33 PM
in case you are interested, lots of photos recently uploaded on the "sister" side of sky

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=610333&page=22

bayvee
October 24th, 2012, 05:11 AM
Spoke to IB seniors. Confirmed indeed that Sky is indeed formally back on track and that sales have also been re-openened at 30000 Rs basic price. Possession in two years. Sky Suites to follow soon. If we add one more month for that (it will be shorter) plus 2 years as advertised for sky + 20 floors (to reach to same level as where sky is today) @ 10 days this will be short of 3 years for delivery. So my guess, Diwali 2015- Open house !

bayvee
October 27th, 2012, 02:25 AM
no work going on as yet to prepare the suites site. went to visit the sky forest site yesterday as well after i spotted crane movement. good news is that both cranes were operational and looks like the forest site is being prepared for restart. the plastic on the concrete pumps had also been removed and a few workers were painting the concrete bars with black coating.

dunefreezer
October 27th, 2012, 03:09 AM
Thanks for the update dude, we really appreciate it. What I can't handle is that they already ruined Callison's original design.

BombayPG
October 29th, 2012, 08:45 AM
no work going on as yet to prepare the suites site. went to visit the sky forest site yesterday as well after i spotted crane movement. good news is that both cranes were operational and looks like the forest site is being prepared for restart. the plastic on the concrete pumps had also been removed and a few workers were painting the concrete bars with black coating.

Thanks for the update. That will only leave Sky Suites on hold then. Hopefully it starts soon too.

BombayPG
November 26th, 2012, 08:25 AM
Hello Bayvee,

Have you heard anything new from IB on Sky Suites or Sky Forest?

bayvee
November 27th, 2012, 08:38 AM
Hello Bayvee,

Have you heard anything new from IB on Sky Suites or Sky Forest?

Regrets, in spite of writing and calling, no further updates. SKy next door is going on, yet very slow pace. Seen crane and concrete pump operating in Sky forest (from a distance).

bhargavsura
November 28th, 2012, 03:24 AM
Is Indiabulls on Cash Crunch?

BombayPG
November 28th, 2012, 09:42 AM
Regrets, in spite of writing and calling, no further updates. SKy next door is going on, yet very slow pace. Seen crane and concrete pump operating in Sky forest (from a distance).

Thanks for the update! Hopefully whatever issues Indiabulls is facing are sorted soon.

bayvee
December 8th, 2012, 12:55 PM
Thanks for the update! Hopefully whatever issues Indiabulls is facing are sorted soon.

A second concrete pump has been installed to cover the large area for the Sky Forest and speed up the work. Believe three cranes are now also at work.

bayvee
December 10th, 2012, 04:03 AM
A second concrete pump has been installed to cover the large area for the Sky Forest and speed up the work. Believe three cranes are now also at work.

further info, went to the site yesterday. the sky suites is still fully locked up and no preparation seems to be in site. the sky forest site is humming with development and has risen , in parts, to about 8 -10 meters above plinth level.

bayvee
December 15th, 2012, 06:45 AM
Spoke to senior sales yesterday. Execution of agreements and new sales for Sky has commenced. Suites will now follow "in a couple of months". Apartments may include ones with and without balcony option, similar to now also offered in the newly designed apartments for Sky upper floors.

BombayPG
December 15th, 2012, 08:56 AM
Spoke to senior sales yesterday. Execution of agreements and new sales for Sky has commenced. Suites will now follow "in a couple of months". Apartments may include ones with and without balcony option, similar to now also offered in the newly designed apartments for Sky upper floors.

Thanks for the update. Interesting that they may have apartments with and without balconies. My guess would have been that Suites and Forest would not have balconies since they will be under the new DCR and not a lot of construction has happened.

Any word from them on Sky Forest?

bayvee
December 16th, 2012, 06:07 AM
Thanks for the update. Interesting that they may have apartments with and without balconies. My guess would have been that Suites and Forest would not have balconies since they will be under the new DCR and not a lot of construction has happened.

Any word from them on Sky Forest?

From what i understand, they indeed need to resign yet still offer both versions, i think i would be more of an "internal type of balcony or the ones like in Beau Monde (mostly build in, yet front and part corners open). It would not surprise me then that IB will also claim these sqft to be part of the "living" area and not provide the space at the usual 50% discount for balconies (remember, they will now be short of FSI and need ot get maximum money out of each unit)

bayvee
February 22nd, 2013, 03:20 PM
it is all attention to small things that may give away the restart of Sky suites soon.

The red concrete pump has been replaced this week. Now why would one do that if there was no intention to start soon ?.

Also spotted lot of sight on the side end in the evening.

Anyone else who has some news here ?

infra desperados
February 22nd, 2013, 03:45 PM
^^ Y U NO post pics.. :(

BombayPG
February 23rd, 2013, 10:03 AM
it is all attention to small things that may give away the restart of Sky suites soon.

The red concrete pump has been replaced this week. Now why would one do that if there was no intention to start soon ?.

Also spotted lot of sight on the side end in the evening.

Anyone else who has some news here ?


Great. Looks like after Sky and Sky Forest it is the turn of Sky Suites!

henchman
February 23rd, 2013, 10:22 AM
sky forest also started progressing?

bayvee
February 23rd, 2013, 12:20 PM
sky forest also started progressing?

Yes very much so, now the question is in to what. The lower flowers that can be seen now do not have the ususal triple or higher entrance it seems and look more like car parks or shops. If you study the render of the SKy building a few pages back, you will see that the new design in front of IB ONe has a low height retail site. So we need to see what it will develop into yet the work is for sure on in full swing.

bayvee
February 23rd, 2013, 12:24 PM
^^ Y U NO post pics.. :(

I have sent some pics and hope these will be uploaded soon, thanks for asking. SKy Suites still look the same as before. Went to the site this morning early to see hat the light was all about. The lights are the beefed up security lights from the IB FInancial centre, so falls alarm. The concrete pump is however indeed been changed and looks gleaming new. A small bull dozer mini works vehicle had also entered the site. I ll keep tracking and will let you know once more activities are spotted.

Bay Vee

kgnsk
February 23rd, 2013, 04:56 PM
I have sent some pics and hope these will be uploaded soon, thanks for asking. SKy Suites still look the same as before. Went to the site this morning early to see hat the light was all about. The lights are the beefed up security lights from the IB FInancial centre, so falls alarm. The concrete pump is however indeed been changed and looks gleaming new. A small bull dozer mini works vehicle had also entered the site. I ll keep tracking and will let you know once more activities are spotted.

Bay Vee

The one in front of IB one is now cleared and hence in progress (pity those who bought offices in IB one behind..their view and frontage will be totally blocked). The one next to financial centre is stuck for some public parking fsi related issue. Am told Hopefully in another month, that should also get resolved,

bayvee
February 24th, 2013, 04:36 AM
The one in front of IB one is now cleared and hence in progress (pity those who bought offices in IB one behind..their view and frontage will be totally blocked). The one next to financial centre is stuck for some public parking fsi related issue. Am told Hopefully in another month, that should also get resolved,

that would indeed be good news if that were to happen. I thought that the parking (now limited to just four floors max) and the FSI was long sorted out ?

jinka sreekanth
February 28th, 2013, 02:46 AM
del

height of cynicism
February 28th, 2013, 03:32 AM
that would indeed be good news if that were to happen. I thought that the parking (now limited to just four floors max) and the FSI was long sorted out ?

Public Parking is an indirect means of getting additional FSI for free.

The Indian public aren't used to getting much if not anything at all. So if public parking didn't materialize, nobody would murmur a whisper of protest. There is no sign board saying that a public parking site would materialize on the spot, though Public parking is supposed to be a public utility. (Somebody correct me if I am mistaken)
These luxury buildings with top notch security features, where parking spaces are allotted by charging Crores of Rupees aren't expected to park your dilapidated Maruti 800 for a few Rupees. Just doesn't make sense. Besides there is always the security issue to contend with.

The so called public parking and the fsi will be forgotten and life will move on, with people trying to squeeze their cars in between scooters, cycles, on the pavement and the odd hand cart, and hoping nobody scratches it in the bargain.
Then ofcourse there are the Municipal parking lots that are manned by scores of boys who bunked school and wave at passing cars to inform them about parking space. You hand them the keys to your beloved car and they park it for you. Ofcourse they dont charge you the Municipal rate. Either you park(and have them taking joy rides/ teaching other urchins to drive your car) or go hang yourself. The RTO cars are always on the prowl to ensure you give these parking boys (lets call them valet's) some business.
The parking spaces would ofcourse be built, but they would be sold to the 'public'. i.e. the public who purchased apartments in the building.
Life would move on. We don't expect much so we don't get much.

Coolguyz
March 2nd, 2013, 11:36 AM
work has started on this one too

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Abinash89
March 2nd, 2013, 11:55 AM
Yeah! I can see A MAN standing there..:D

henchman
March 2nd, 2013, 04:41 PM
this one has scaled down to how much floors?

mihir1310
March 2nd, 2013, 04:59 PM
IU,
Can you change the first post of this thread showing the new renders as this :
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=55427961&postcount=81 ?Thanks

mihir1310
March 2nd, 2013, 04:59 PM
Oh thanks CG!

bayvee
March 3rd, 2013, 01:25 PM
Yeah! I can see A MAN standing there..:D

It is not the man but the gleaming new - replaced - red/orangie concrete pumping system that he saw and hence he is right !

Coolguyz
March 3rd, 2013, 03:41 PM
It is not the man but the gleaming new - replaced - red/orangie concrete pumping system that he saw and hence he is right !

Its not the concrete pump which made me stop but workers were workin on steel rods,ready to cover with steel casings to pour concrete in it

BombayPG
March 4th, 2013, 01:00 PM
It is not the man but the gleaming new - replaced - red/orangie concrete pumping system that he saw and hence he is right !

bayvee,

Have you heard anything from your contacts on what the plan is for Forest and Suites?

Its not the concrete pump which made me stop but workers were workin on steel rods,ready to cover with steel casings to pour concrete in it

Excellent news!!

bayvee
March 5th, 2013, 11:58 PM
bayvee,

Have you heard anything from your contacts on what the plan is for Forest and Suites?



Excellent news!!

No contacts as yet, I ll check it out next week when back in India.

BombayPG
April 5th, 2013, 07:52 AM
Heard from a friend that they have several workers on site now and that the cranes move around occasionally.

Have asked him to take photos the next time he's in the area. Will post here when he sends them to me.

Coolguyz
May 9th, 2013, 07:02 PM
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/2439/img20130509222823.jpg

bayvee
May 12th, 2013, 04:11 PM
Went to site today and the guard was a little slow and so I got into the complex. The concrete pump pipeline was being installed, few workers on site, guard then fought up with me and told me the rest of the team had gone for lunch yet that the project was on and work had indeed commenced.