Edit -- (Aug, 2010): This tower has been redesigned by Norman Foster. It will be over 100 fl tall / 550m in floor height / 700m at spire height

MUMBAI | DB Tower | 700m | 100+ fls | Site Prep

Here are the renderings of the new design:
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7748/indiatowerinmumbai001.jpg

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/6840/image3mg.jpg


First post left below for posterity's sake

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(^^ latest design update!)
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Xposting from the international forums for the new SSC India Mumbai section.

NOTE: While IU has dug up some information suggesting that the design of DB Tower is the new design of India tower. See the India Tower thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=19809492) for more details.

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Dynamix-Balwas Tower -- Marine Lines, Mumbai


About a year ago, word came out about Mumbai's first proposed supertall skyscraper, the mixed-use 301m, 85 floor (100 floors when you count service floors) India Tower (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=471040), being built by Neelkamal Realtors in association with Park Hyatt at Marine Lines, Mumbai.

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4985/02yt5.jpg (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=471040)
^ India Tower (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=19809492)

Neelkamal, the developers of the above tower, also announced a new tower a couple weeks ago. To be built by Dynamix-Balwas group, Neelkamal's parent company, the 260m, 64 floor Dynamic-Balwas Tower:
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/5056/01az6.jpg

Some information on the tower from the developer's website:Salient Features

* Fitness Centre
* Cafeteria
* Power Back-up For Common Areas


Internal Amenities
* Earthquake Resistant Structure
* Built - To - Suit Options Available
* 4m. Floor To Floor Ceiling Heigh
* Façade With Structural Glazing/cladding
* Flat Slab Construction
* Wide Column Spacing
* Large Floor Plates
* Broadband Connectivity
* Telephone Connections Of All Networks Possible
* Leased
* High Speed Elevator
* Ample Car Parking
* Provision For Air Cooled VRV System, in Separate Room On Each Floor
* Smoke Detectors
* Fire Alarm System
* Sprinkler SystemWhile only one rendering of this tower has been released, and no word of architect yet, this second tower is an all-residential building. It will occupy a prime waterfront location on Marine Lines, located off Marine Drive on the "Queens Necklace" and Chowpati beach next to India Tower.

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/2546/02vl8.jpg
^ A rendering of India Tower looking south toward historic Mumbai. DB Tower will come up beside it.


Both towers are coming up on former chawl land right next to Mumbai's historic districts, somewhat isolating them from the growing Wori-Tadeo-Parel cluster, making DB and India Tower probably the most visible skyscrapers in Mumbai.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9248/db01ed9.jpg
^ A slightly larger rendering


The link to this building on the Indian Skyscraper Blog (http://indianskyscraperblog.wordpress.com/2008/10/07/mumbai-dynamix-balwas-tower-db-tower-260m-75-floors-an-update)
Cheers,
Jai

Cross posting some relevant posts of member IndiansUnite's awesome detective work from the Mumbai Projects thread:
You've mixed 2 projects up. SRUIL's constructing the 320m residential tower in Worli while DB realty's constructing the DB tower in Marine Lines.

anyways, I actually did call SRUIL up the other night. ;) The lady who picked up the phone rubbished my claim that the project had been announced. :| She gave me no timetable but said that they'll reveal the height and renderings through ads in the newspapers.

DB realty has put up a new rendering of the DB tower :

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/6065/elevationplan1lj7.jpg
clicky (http://www.dbrealty.in/sectors/realestate/project_details_new.asp?pName=DB%20Towers&ptype=residential&pstatus=Forthcoming#)

I called DB up to gather more details but the headstrong sales lady didn't want to give away any right now. She said that it'll be a residential project and not a commercial one as we had earlier thought it would be.

The sales lady at DB gave me a cold reception as she didn't want to divulge any details. I did infact ask her about the architect and other things but she said she couldn't tell me right now.

If the guy at SEW does indeed send the renderings to me then I'll request his permission to post it here. After that, maybe I'll request him to send me the renderings of the mumbai metro stations since SEW is the one who is building them. :D

bhailog, I spoke with the principal architect of Fxfowle a couple of minutes ago. Sorry to disappoint you guys but he said that the India tower and the DB towers are the same towers. Just to make sure, I directed him to DB's website and he confirmed that they are the same towers with the "DB towers" rendering reflecting the design chosen. That leaves Marine Lines with just one tower and not two side by side.

This design is the obsolete one:
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4985/02yt5.jpg


and this one is the one that been selected by DB realty to house apartments and the Hyatt hotel:
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/5056/01az6.jpg


Now for the details:

- DB towers will retain the height of the India tower and will stand @ 301m.
- The number of floors he said will be 60+. He laid emphasis and reiterated "+"
- I told him about the rumour of it being 80-100 fl but he said that couldn't be true since he was the one who designed em.
- He said that right now, secant piling work is going on at the site.


- He's also the one who designed the Ruby Mills tower (http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/7959/9882755largetj0.jpg). As expected it'll have 30+ floors. Once again, he laid emphasis and reiterated "+".

- I asked him about any other towers being designed to be built in Mumbai by fxfowle and he said there are MANY more towers :D



...and the plot thickens... We'll have to see what comes of all this. Has India Tower become DB Tower? Will the design of India Tower be recycled?

-Jai

Im confused, so which building is the actual design then?

The actual design, it seems, is this one: DB Tower (the one with the 'sail', not the rotated blocks)

Im confused, so which building is the actual design then?

"foleded Letter falling out of the envelope" is approved.

I wish both could have be built but dont worry, I wouldn't be surprise if rotated blocks design actually gets built like mile down the road in future.

Ahhhhhhh thats what I thought as the posts where confusing as one of them said confirmed.

I like both designs, hope they dont change their minds again and design something completely different.

So, construction of a 300+ m building isn't in the offing yet :( Let's hope the proposed supertalls are approved pronto.

So, construction of a 300+ m building isn't in the offing yet :( Let's hope the proposed supertalls are approved pronto.

It still is. The project hasn't been cancelled but the design got changed from the box one to the sail one. The sail one will be as tall as the box one @301m.

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from DB's website, an awesome rendering with all of DB realty's towers juxtaposed:

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/2339/dbml7.jpg

from left to right--> orchid breeze,orchid enclave, DB tower,Orchid woods(3 towers),orchid turfview

cool pic, but I wish they didn't exaggerate the height of the building in the images.

Simple fix: build it taller :)

Wow!! love it. That envelope is really falling out of its folder looks like. :cheers:

It still is. The project hasn't been cancelled but the design got changed from the box one to the sail one. The sail one will be as tall as the box one @301m.

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from DB's website, an awesome rendering with all of DB realty's towers juxtaposed:

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/2339/dbml7.jpg

from left to right--> orchid breeze,orchid enclave, DB tower,Orchid woods(3 towers),orchid turfview

Unlike the Park Hyatt tower, the Dynamix-Balwas tower's location on Google Earth cannot be determined.

Unlike the Park Hyatt tower, the Dynamix-Balwas tower's location on Google Earth cannot be determined.

Jim, the Park Hyatt tower/India tower is the DB tower

^^ What the F? They're located on the same site? We can't build both of these towers. First post said that the tower will come up beside the Park Hyatt India Tower.

^^ What the F? They're located on the same site? We can't build both of these towers. First post said that the tower will come up beside the Park Hyatt India Tower.


As Jai's post says, he simply copied the contents of the thread from the international forums. At the time he wrote it, we had thought that there were two buildings coming up. I spoke with the principal architect of FxFowle and he told me that the box design is the old one while DB realty has chosen the sail design. Read the quoted post of mine in this thread which starts like "bhailog, I spoke with the " to know more.

wakakka i like the box design better!

I hate this tower. I wanted a supertall for Mumbai. The sail design is so screwed up.

Towering Battle (http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1165817)

You thought 60-storey is the highest one can go up in the city? You were wrong. A 75-storey world-class hotel-cum-residential tower is coming up in Charni Road

The battle of builders is reaching for the sky. Determined to ‘tower’ over Shapoorji Pallonji-Dilip Thakkar, developers of India’s first skyscraper - a 60-storey twin tower in Tardeo, Neelkamal Realtors, a subsidiary of the low-profile Dynamix Balwa Group, is coming up with a 75-storey world-class hotel-cum-residential tower in Charni Road.

Located a stone’s throw away from Charni Road station and SK Patil Udyan on Maharshi Karve Road, the 75-storey building, scheduled to be completed in 2011, will cost Rs1,100-crore, and will be managed by Park Hyatt.

With a built-up space of 9 lakh sq ft, the tower, coming up on the plot where Ruby Garage once stood, will offer a panoramic view of the Arabian Sea. Vinod Goenka, chairman of DB Group, said, “Construction will be in full swing after the rains. We are awaiting the state government’s decision as to how much floor space index (FSI) we can consume, since the plot falls in the Coastal Regulation Zone (CRZ).”

As per ministry of environment and forests (MoEF) rules on CRZ, a developer under the 1991 development control rules (DCR )can get an FSI of only 1.33. But Goenka is not a worried man. He has started work, using the sanctioned FSI of 1, but is certain of getting a much higher FSI.

He is confident because the Supreme Court, in December 2007, directed the state to consider Goenka’s request for an FSI upto 6.29. The apex court passed the order on a petition filed by Goenka seeking higher FSI, based on the 1967 DCR instead of the prevailing 1991 DCR.

Located a stone’s throw away from Charni Road station and SK Patil Udyan on Maharshi Karve Road, the 75-storey building scheduled to be completed in 2011,, will cost Rs1,100-crore, and will be managed by Park Hyatt.
...
Vinod Goenka, chairman of DB Group, said, “Construction will be in full swing after the rains.

Awesome

:cheers:


Here's an image of a part of the site from DNA's epaper. The fxfowle architect lied to me that secant piling work was taking place.

http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/6029/dbtowerml7.jpg

Could be a dated photo? http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3757/shrugkr2.gif

Could be a dated photo? http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3757/shrugkr2.gif

Could be. But I'd imagine that the photographer got access to the site while the journo was in the midst of covering the story.

A larger rendering of the tower, from MQA Architects (Mandviwala Qutub & Associates (http://www.mqa.in/))

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9248/db01ed9.jpg

Seriously ugly...a wannabe with a totally distorted scale...
I prefer the box one better...it had some understated elegance...and clear definations...i doubt how this one will look..especially as a stand alone sutpertall in the middle of nowhere..(the tallest building in the vicinity of this tower must be six storeyed building on one side and a garden/graveyard on the other) If this development was a part of a high rise cluster it would suit fine....but the present shape will look totally out of place....especially if you consider the entire skyline of mumbai with respect to marine drive...
The boxes would be a good transition from the boxy nariman point to the chaotic tardeo...this presens design would totally wreck the transiotion and add to the chaos and that too at a completely wrong location.
Furthermore I doubt how chamfered edges of this building...that are highlighted in the direction of the render would look from seen from the chowpatty side...

So what one are they building?

Theres some uncanny imperfection to this rendering. Somethings fishy :ohno:

I wanted them to build India Tower and DB tower

This whole project seems like it WON'T happen. There is only one render (and it sucks), there are no articles or anything about it, FXFowl took this off of their website, and MQA SPELLED THE NAME wrong (they spelled it "Hayat Tower") on their website. There have been no updates or information or pictures or construction activity. Plus MQA has a lot of projects that seem fishy and aren't ever going to be made. They even claim that the cancelled India Tower is underconstruction...

fxfowle took it off their website coz their design for 'India Tower' did not get chosen...no other reason...as long as its still listed on the 'forthcoming projects' list on the dynamix balwas website we have to be both optimistic and patient also.

MQA seems to be the local architectural firm who helped work on the design. Most big name architects 'subcontract' parts of the design to local firms in order to be more efficient.

There are quite a bit of towers designed by FXFowle that aren't on the website.

DB Realty hired RC Observer to take some pics of the views from the tower. Here they are -

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/7791/dbhplindia20tower220022xr1.jpg


http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/4052/dbhpl2nd20site20129id1.jpg


http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/2589/dbhpl3rd20site20073km5.jpg

Great Job IU....does this mean that since they took pictures from the tower, is the construction underway, or are the pictures taken from another tower?

cool find, iu

Uber, its taken from the site, but it is not u/c. Likely taken by a camera suspended on a balloon or some such

IU bhai mast pics hai. You are great. for first time I see clean bombay buildings. very very happy.

Those pics look cool IU.Does anyone know what the two buildings in the second pic under constuction on the left side are?

the building looks nice.

btw, any news on the India Tower building...that looks like blocks stacked on top of each other?
...

seriously dude?

...just read the thread, man..

I just realized that the article referenced by IU last page hadn't been cross posted here...

Towering Battle (http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1165817&pageid=0)
Rajshri Mehta
Thursday, May 22, 2008 02:52 IST
You thought 60-storey is the highest one can go up in the city? You were wrong. A 75-storey world-class hotel-cum-residential tower is coming up in Charni Road

The battle of builders is reaching for the sky. Determined to ‘tower’ over Shapoorji Pallonji-Dilip Thakkar, developers of India’s first skyscraper - a 60-storey twin tower in Tardeo, Neelkamal Realtors, a subsidiary of the low-profile Dynamix Balwa Group, is coming up with a 75-storey world-class hotel-cum-residential tower in Charni Road.

Located a stone’s throw away from Charni Road station and SK Patil Udyan on Maharshi Karve Road, the 75-storey building, scheduled to be completed in 2011, will cost Rs1,100-crore, and will be managed by Park Hyatt.

With a built-up space of 9 lakh sq ft, the tower, coming up on the plot where Ruby Garage once stood, will offer a panoramic view of the Arabian Sea. Vinod Goenka, chairman of DB Group, said, “Construction will be in full swing after the rains. We are awaiting the state government’s decision as to how much floor space index (FSI) we can consume, since the plot falls in the Coastal Regulation Zone (CRZ).”

As per ministry of environment and forests (MoEF) rules on CRZ, a developer under the 1991 development control rules (DCR )can get an FSI of only 1.33. But Goenka is not a worried man. He has started work, using the sanctioned FSI of 1, but is certain of getting a much higher FSI.

He is confident because the Supreme Court, in December 2007, directed the state to consider Goenka’s request for an FSI upto 6.29. The apex court passed the order on a petition filed by Goenka seeking higher FSI, based on the 1967 DCR instead of the prevailing 1991 DCR.

Goenka said, “Hotels like Oberoi, President in south Mumbai have consumed higher FSI of over 5 under the 1967 DCR. We asked for a similar benefit. The civic body wanted to apply the 1991 DCR, but the apex court held it was not applicable to our project for two reasons. Firstly, the 1991 DCR does not specify the FSI a hotel can consume. Secondly, the CRZ notification freezing FSI came after the 1991 DCR.”

However, the urban development (UD) department, headed by chief minister Vilasrao Deshmukh, is yet to take a decision on the issue. The delay is not without reason. Other star hotels in the city too have begun petitioning the government for similar development rights to raise the height of their buildings.

Those include Sea Rock Hotel in Bandra, Sahara Star at Vile Parle and another five star hotel in south Mumbai.

Senior UD officials are in ardent consultation to find a way to tackle the situation, otherwise there is the danger of DB Group filing a contempt of court petition against the government for not complying with the apex court order.

“If we allow (higher FSI) one and deny the others, the government will be accused of being partial and corrupt,” said an UD official.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1151/image8lf9.jpg


Also, I added a comprehensive update (http://indianskyscraperblog.wordpress.com/2008/10/07/mumbai-dynamix-balwas-tower-db-tower-260m-75-floors-an-update/) about this project at the Indian Skyscraper Blog (http://indianskyscraperblog.wordpress.com).

Awesome news!

The tower's height has officially been confirmed to be over 400 meters in height :banana:

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4507/image1gt8.jpg


Also, here's a layout plan, which gives a better perspective of the shape of the tower:
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/5101/layoutplan1yt0.jpg


-Jai

to w.e. highway? to bkc? the above is certainly not at charni road

*shrug*

That's what the website has

maybe its another building

awesome news Jai

400 is a massive number. I'll take it.

to w.e. highway? to bkc? the above is certainly not at charni road

ROFLZ!!!

BTW was just passing by the site and saw a lot of excavation!
this ones gonna be even more boring than the MP mills towers! im sure taj mahal was built faster!

From an article in the Business Standard (http://www.business-standard.com/india/storypage.php?autono=343592)

Currently, Hyatt, along with DB Hospitality — the hospitality arm of Mumbai-based real estate company DB Realty —, is building a 70-storyed luxury hotel in south Mumbai at a cost of more than Rs 1,000 crore. A letter of intent has already been signed between the two companies. The tower, managed by the Park Hyatt brand, is set to become India's tallest building.

Construction of the tower, which will overlook the Arabian Sea, has already begun and the luxury hotel will commence operation in early 2012.

Its probably worth cross posting the latest rumors/info here.... from the international and Mumbai update threads:

There is a proposal for a 412m, 113 level Norman Foster designed building on or near this site.

Does anyone know whether it is in fact this development seeing as the height is now over 400m and the latest renders on this thread show a building that doesn't look anywhere near that height?


That's an interesting question... and I agree the height does not look to be 400 m in the rendering.

Do you have any more information on the tower Foster's designing? I haven't heard about a tower he's working on in Mumbai, and can't find any information on such a proposal on the net.

He is, however, confirmed to be involved in the design of a supertall tower in Hyderabad, but that proposal is at its very initial stages no hints of the design has yet been released.

Cheers


Foster is working on this. The design is a slender pyramid similar in profile to the London Bridge Tower, incorporating open air sky gardens as featured in his earlier Commerzbank tower in Frankfurt. It will be THE landmark building on the Mumbai skyline.

This is now a 412m/113 floor building designed by a world famous architect.


Also from the DB tower thread

Interesting gossip indeed :) Thanks for the scoop, bro.

With a worry about looking a gift horse in the mouth, can you give more details on the source of your information? Is there a publicly released rendering floating around that we haven't seen?


It's interesting that the details you give of Foster's Mumbai project and one of Hyderabad's tallest proposed towers, the 112-floor (113 floor, in some reports) Lanco Hills Signature Tower, are to be almost identical in height and similarly pyramidal/shard-like in design:
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/8830/01qn3.jpg

The thing is, we still don't know for certain who the architect of the Hyderabad tower is. Is it possible that the Foster tower design that was assumed to be in Mumbai is actually the Hyderabad tower? What's odd is that according to press reports Foster's already been mooted to design the 100+ floor supertall in Hyderabad, the APIIC tower. If indeed he's the hand behind the Lanco Hill's design, does this imply he's designing both of Hyderabad's supertalls?

If that's not the case, then it would imply that two of India's tallest upcoming towers would look virtually identical

I can't reveal my source but I've seen the plans for the tower and it is definitely the DB Tower site in Mumbai. The previous architect has been kicked off the scheme, apparently the developer secured a good deal with Foster because he was anxious to do a signature building in India. What better place than in its biggest city and financial capital.

As for renderings you'll have to wait for the developer to release details in due course.:)

Awesome, thanks for the details bro :)

Foster's work is always worth the wait... another humble request for crumbs, can you say if the design seems to have any form of input in terms of traditional Indian architecture? Pyramidal towers are very much in the tradition of Sikhara and Gopuram towers found in the varieties of Indian architectural styes

I do hope that for such a signature tower in India, I hope he does (a) incorporate and (b) incorporate in more than just a superficial way traditional Indian design into the plan

Cheers

I haven't seen any traditional Indian architecture in the design, perhaps this is expressed symbolically in its pyramidal form as you suggest. It is a cutting edge glass skyscraper with significant green credentials. To be honest it looks like it could be built in any major international city, the Foster brand comes to Mumbai. It does look stunning though!

Hah, I'll take it anyway ;)

Cheers again

interesting peice of information...
There is actually excvation on at site...wonder whose deisgns are they following...fox or the local indian fellow or foster!
Anyways am slowly loosing interest in this one...too many false starts and too many design changes...hope it donsent land up being a damp squib and takes off late...especially now that so many interesting scrapers seem to be sprouting all over mumbai!

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8472/22039431ly6.jpg

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8472/22039431ly6.jpg

now where did u get THAT from ?

I am anxiously waiting for this and Shreepati heights to start (and the so-called MMRDA sponsored 100 floor Iconic tower if they are serious about it)...

^^Me to. Can wait to see the skyline in 5 or more years!

now where did u get THAT from ?
Seconding... the hell did you find such a clear rendering??

BTW, a rough floor count of the clearer rendering puts it at ~70 floors

any news on status of construction , it was mentioned in 1 st page as starting after the rains in 08 , although I'd be a fool to believe that but still there must be tentative dates , right ?

From Business Today magazine's latest edition (http://www.businesstoday.intoday.in/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&issueid=&id=10575&Itemid=&sectionid=&completeview=1) -


DB Tower

Type of project: Hotel cum residential

Developer: DB Realty

Launched in: 2008

Original completion date: 2011

New completion date: N.A.

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/7529/090318072034realestate1.jpg

Reason for delay: Company officials claim no delay (work is ongoing) With a built-up space of 9 lakh square feet, and a panoramic view of the Arabian Sea, Neelkamal Realtors (a part of DB Realty Group) is coming up with a 75-storey hotel-cum-residential tower in Charni Road.

The building, scheduled to be completed in 2011, is expected to cost Rs 1,100 crore, and will be managed by Park Hyatt. According to a company spokeswoman: “The site work is going on.” However, a visit to the site shows that the ground has only been excavated and there is no construction activity yet.

shouldn't the threads title be changed from 'proposed' to 'u/c' now.

^^ I dont think we should change it yet not until theres a crane.

The building, scheduled to be completed in 2011

Yeah right 2011 :|

Assuming the rumor is true, the delay in construction could be indicative of a possible new design (Foster?)

Jai

^^ dont recall Foster jointing DB redesign. I hope it just aint the rumor. :) Honestly boss. Bombay can seriously fill up 100+ flrs towers in no time.

I mean just look at Bombay's residential towers scenarios. new 55-60 flrs tower announcement have become a norm now. so, common sense says, commercial tower should be 100+ flrs easily. 10-12 floors are taken up by parking lot anyways. So acual office space will be of 88-flrs. Bombay can fill that in no time. :cheers:

http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/highrise-sanction-likely-soon-for-fivestar-hotel-which-could-also-be-tallest-building/473978/

Highrise: Sanction likely soon for five-star hotel, which could also be tallest building
Mumbai In a step that could alter the skyline of the Queen’s Necklace, the state government is likely to sanction a proposal for a highrise five-star hotel that is being constructed by DB Realty at Charni Road.
The two-acre plot is located next to the SK Patil Garden in Charni Road, on the other side of the railway tracks running parallel to the Taraporevala Aquarium at Marine Drive. It falls under the Coastal Regulation Zone.

The prevailing vertical limit for the area is restricted with a floor space index (FSI) of 1.33. The government move is in response to a Supreme Court ruling that asked the state to consider the developer’s request for an FSI of 6.29. Once sanctioned, the structure housing the hotel-cum-service apartment will go higher than the tallest building in Mumbai: the 60-storeyed twin towers at Tardeo.

“The freeze on FSI came with the development control (DC) Rules, 1991. When the CRZ notification of 1991 was issued, the DC rules of 1967 were in force, under which there is no FSI limit specified,” said an official from the urban development department.

This additional FSI extends to educational and medical institutions, government offices and luxury hotels provided that the government approves the project. The existing five-star hotels in the island city like Taj Mahal, President, Oberoi and Ambassador have been granted the benefit of this additional FSI in the past, the official said.

Shahid Balwa, managing director of DB Realty, said until the state’s sanction comes through, the plan is for a maximum 50-storey tower. “The BMC has recommended an FSI of 5 for our project and we are now going as per that. Our proposal for 6.29 FSI is pending before the government.”

The project was earlier slated for completion in 2011. Balwa said the project, expected to begin next year, will be completed by 2013.

Man.. I so much hope they pass the sanction and allow a higher FSI. 64 floors would be great. 50's good. 64's better. 2013 is a long way to go...

ossome, india is the best and gonna b best for!!!ever
Mumbai is going places!

The DB Tower should have been a totally commercial/office tower. In reality, what is the DB Tower going to be used for?

The DB Tower should have been a totally commercial/office tower. In reality, what is the DB Tower going to be used for?

resi & hospitality


Fxfowle's website now has a render showing a 3rd proposal made by them to DB realty:

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/4847/1243890714.jpg

Given the fact that we never saw it, it probably got rejected right away from db realty.

The website also says that Fxfowle has submitted a design to the Kohinoor Mills design competition.

^Its the worst out of all. It would be cool if the built all three next to each other : D


Also I don't think there will be a redesign by Foster. I don't know where we even got that from.

I would really have liked to see the first one built.

I would really have liked to see the first one built.

Not anyone of them is going to be built. In half of the proposed projects seem to be announced just for the sake of it.:ohno:

Not true. This site is located in the prime area I am sure developers paid tons of money to get this land. It would be too dumb for them not mine the gold when sitting on the gold mine!!! I have seen the site it's huge area. If not 64 floors at least 50 floors will be built.

Not anyone of them is going to be built. In half of the proposed projects seem to be announced just for the sake of it.:ohno:

this one will be built. i know someone involved with this project and they are just clearing some civic and legal hurdles

this one will be built. i know someone involved with this project and they are just clearing some civic and legal hurdles

really nice to hear that

L&T bags orders worth Rs 1,513 cr

Mumbai: Engineering and construction major Larsen and Toubro (L&T) has bagged orders worth Rs 1,513 crore during the second quarter this fiscal, the company said Tuesday.

L&T gets shareholders nod to raise Rs 2,400 cr via securities

Buildings and Factories Operating Co, part of L&T's construction division, has secured a Rs 621-crore contract from DB Hospitality Ltd for building a high-rise tower, India Tower, at Charni road, Mumbai.

L&T has also bagged a Rs 238-crore contract from the ITC group for developing its ITC Sonar Hotel in Kolkata.

Another major contract the company secured is a Rs 367-crore hospital project for National Building Construction Corp (NBCC). L&T will build a hospital in Coimbatore and upgrade six in Haryana.

L&T will bid to build navy's second submarine line

In the factories segment, L&T bagged new orders to the tune of Rs 287 crore from Arshiya International Ltd for developing a "free trade warehousing zone" in Sai village at Panvel near Mumbai.

source (http://sify.com/finance/fullstory.php?a=jkgnD6gbfjf&title=L%26amp;T_bags_orders_worth_Rs_1,513_cr)

Can this tower be built in 621 crore rupees?

Can this tower be built in 621 crore rupees?

^^ - Highrise construction costs should be about the region of Rs 2500/sq.ft for core and shell. That means a BUA of about 2.5 million sq.ft and a floor-plate size of about 40,000 Sq.ft. (64 floors). Does that tie in with the proposal for this project?

Sweet. Finally this project is moving forward. btw DB realty just filed their prospectus for an ipo to raise some moolah. Both FSI and capital have been taken care of so now we should hear more about the tower and its construction.

L&T bags orders worth Rs 1,513 cr


As a Desi, I am so incredibly proud of this company. They truly build stuff that makes India proud. L&T rocks...

I have seen the site it's huge area. If not 64 floors at least 50 floors will be built.

The site is tight for what they have planned. Two tall residential towers and the iconic Foster designed India Tower.

The site is tight for what they have planned. Two tall residential towers and the iconic Foster designed India Tower.Hey what are you doing over here on the Bombay thread? I may as well myself the same question... ;)

Anyway the new design is so much better than that rotated box thing. This is a worthy design for Bombay's crown. :okay:

I pop up in the most unexpected places Langur...as do you it seems.:)

Anyway latest I heard this is going to be a real whopper....way beyond 400m.

I pop up in the most unexpected places Langur...as do you it seems.:)

Anyway latest I heard this is going to be a real whopper....way beyond 400m.

Now that would be something!

Where did u hear this news?

I obviously can't tell you that.

What I can say is that an awful lot of time, effort and resources are going into the design of this tower. The results should be spectacular.

This is a worthy design for Bombay's crown. :okay:

I think thats the intention...hands down.

What I can say is that an awful lot of time, effort and resources are going into the design of this tower. The results should be spectacular.

Excellent! Even at the height of 300m I felt this was a breath of fresh air from some of the "less inspired" buildings coming up in the city.

400m+ would be just incredible :cheers:

tower teasin us again larven ;)

Over 400m is gonna look mighty strange by its self. Hope we get some 200-300 proposals around Marine Lines.

I obviously can't tell you that.

What I can say is that an awful lot of time, effort and resources are going into the design of this tower. The results should be spectacular.Inside knowledge eh? I'm excited now.... :)

I obviously can't tell you that.



Insider info - love it. Cant wait!!

I'm not sure if this has already been posted, but I assume it belongs here. Now that there is official confirmation of what many here were saying earlier, this project sounds exciting, and with a big name like Hyatt attached to it, more realistic than most of the 100+ story towers in India.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/34481334

Hyatt Signs Management Agreement for Five New India Properties
18 Dec 2009 | 01:20 PM ET

CHICAGO, Dec 18, 2009 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Hyatt Hotels Corporation (NYSE: H) and DB Hospitality Pvt. Ltd., part of DB Group, today announced management agreements under which Hyatt will operate five new hotel properties in India.

The properties, currently slated to open on various dates between mid-2010 and early 2014, include Park Hyatt Mumbai, Grand Hyatt Goa, Grand Hyatt Pune, Hyatt Place Pune, and Hyatt Place Mundra.

DB Hospitality Pvt. Ltd., considered one of India's fastest-growing real estate developers, will develop and own the properties, all of which will be situated in major business centers. The plans include luxury and upscale guest accommodations, serviced apartments, authentic dining options, and banquet/meeting facilities.

"The introduction of five new Hyatt properties in India, one of the world's most vibrant emerging markets, illustrates our commitment to expanding our global footprint," said Ratnesh Verma, senior vice president of real estate and development for Hyatt. "We are excited to provide our guests with access to our world-class, preferred brands in these increasingly popular markets in India." Hyatt has operated properties in India since 1983. Currently, Hyatt manages five hotels in India, including Park Hyatt Goa Resort and Spa, Grand Hyatt Mumbai, Hyatt Regency Mumbai, Hyatt Regency Delhi, and Hyatt Regency Kolkata.

"We are proud to be partnering with Hyatt for the management of these iconic properties," said Julian R. Groom, chief operating officer and executive director of DB Hospitality Pvt. Ltd. "Hyatt's knowledge of the Indian market and its global reputation is consistent with our company's pursuit of greater excellence and efforts to reach the next level of hospitality." The five new Hyatt properties will include:

-- Park Hyatt Mumbai, projected to open in the first quarter of 2014, will include 255 guest rooms and 55 serviced apartments. The hotel will be part of the iconic 125-story India Tower located on Marine Lines in South Mumbai. Foster and Partners, London has been selected as the leading designers for this full-service hotel, which will include exclusive banqueting and meeting facilities.

so the deal is signed. officially confirmed.

Foster & co will design it. DB along with L&T will build it. Assuming Foster & partners will take a full 6-8 mths to final design from now. that leaves more than 3 yrs of u/c time for all 125-flrs assuming it will open 1st Q to 2014. its possible. but again its India, the whole project could be shelved in no time.

india tower is definitely on. site prep is underway

Amazing news this is. So the tower's probably going to be at least 450 meters high then, eh?

so the deal is signed. officially confirmed.

Foster & co will design it. DB along with L&T will build it. Assuming Foster & partners will take a full 6-8 mths to final design from now. that leaves more than 3 yrs of u/c time for all 125-flrs assuming it will open 1st Q to 2014. its possible. but again its India, the whole project could be shelved in no time.



are you sure its 125 floors?

Great news. The tower should be in the 550-600 meter range.

March 1 - site prep underway at the site -

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/1109/28kiy4m.jpg

IU: You will need to get a coverage of this in your India trip..

should we move this to the super tall section?

this will also be the first commercial one right?

Its going to stick out like a sore thumb for quite some time to come

should we move this to the super tall section?

this will also be the first commercial one right?

Its going to stick out like a sore thumb for quite some time to come

I would not mind that Ichi :) Those renders look amazing BTW. True work of art. Hope they stick to the original design, or stay close to it.

I knew it :) I can only hope that my undying optimism about supertalls in Mumbai pays off.

When is this scheduled to be U/C? Are there any further clearances that these guys need for this? or it's all done?

The site is tight for what they have planned. Two tall residential towers and the iconic Foster designed India Tower.

^^
Hopefully if this is true then this beast will not be standing alone....just had a quick look at the dbrealty website, and it does have three 'forthcoming' residential projects in the 'Mumbai Central' area, but these are not accompanined by renders...hopefully these will be released soon....also im guessing the renders we have for India Tower will not be the final one(since those are designed by MQ & Associates/Fx Fowle)...Im expecting big things from Foster cnt wait...:cheers:

Great news. The tower should be in the 550-600 meter range.
must be greater than 600 mts since taipei 101 is 536 mts and has only 101 storey and both are commercial tower..

should we move this to the super tall section?

Move? We never move threads. Threads are created in the international section. There's a thread for it here:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=471040

this will also be the first commercial one right?

In Mumbai? nope.


Hope they stick to the original design, or stay close to it.

The architects got changed and larven didn't tell us if the new design was close to the FxFowle one. If there was any similarity then he would have mentioned it.

When is this scheduled to be U/C? Are there any further clearances that these guys need for this? or it's all done?

All clearances have been obtained AFAIK. The tower could be u/c right now for all we know. Someone from Bbay needs to go down there to check it out.


must be greater than 600 mts since taipei 101 is 536 mts and has only 101 storey and both are commercial tower..

The roof of T101 is at a height of about 450m. With the spire it's about 510m. Our India tower will definitely be >500m tall. Exactly how tall it will be? We'll have to wait for more details.

All clearances have been obtained AFAIK. The tower could be u/c right now for all we know. Someone from Bbay needs to go down there to check it out.


Ichi, Bombay Boy, ab041937? Any of you can do that please?

Ichi, Bombay Boy, ab041937? Any of you can do that please?

Wait until 4th Jan Mate, when i return back. I am in Glasgow at the moment.

IU can you edit the details of the tower including status , height and floors:)

If it really works out then great.:banana: Keeping my finger crossed....please post some more updates on the construction site.

Inside knowledge eh? I'm excited now.... :)

me too... finally. :banana:

Check this link out, it says it is a 400m+ tower, not 500m+...

http://www.dbrealty.in/property_detail.php?id=PIN00032

Don't know why but their website is confusing, nothing seems to match up :ohno:

^I would trust the official press release issued just a few days ago that also correctly mentions Foster over their website which might not have been updated in some time and still shows the old FXFOWLE design.

Nitro, spyguy --- haven't seen you all posting here for a long time.

Check this link out, it says it is a 400m+ tower, not 500m+...

http://www.dbrealty.in/property_detail.php?id=PIN00032

Don't know why but their website is confusing, nothing seems to match up :ohno:

You should know this by now. We at SSCi have often propped up the height by few extra metres even in case of midrises. This one is a supertall. So, an extra 100m+ is only keeping up with the legacy. However, its early days. The completion date of project isn't yet disclosed and I doubt if any serious construction is acually happening at the site. Lets wait for couple of months to get the clear picture.

Check this link out, it says it is a 400m+ tower, not 500m+...

http://www.dbrealty.in/property_detail.php?id=PIN00032

Don't know why but their website is confusing, nothing seems to match up :ohno:

Most probably I am assuming it is going to be between 400 and 450 meters.

Even by going an Average 3 m per floor, having 125 floors would mean around 400 meters.

I love it. I like both. That envelope is really falling out of its folder looks like.

india tower is definitely on. site prep is underway

But no one is exactly sure of whats being built ?
and i dont beleive the DB propaganda either... :)

The DB Tower is being built. The design isn't out yet.

ab041937, 500+m is not a cooked up figure. The following is what Trikona Capital (a fund management firm investing in DB Realty) announced in their quarterly results in September:

Park Hyatt Mumbai, 510 mts with 95 storeys

275 Rooms; 50 serviced apartments and 50 long stay residences and 125, 000 sq. ft. of retail space
clicky (http://www.iii.co.uk/news/?type=afxnews&articleid=7546442&action=article)

Even with 95 floors, this tower was supposed to be 500m+ tall. Now we all know what happened to the number of floors between then and now, so one can imagine (or at least I believe) this tower will be in the 550-600m range.

I hope that's true. This will be truly a supertall then which is going to bring in some competition from the Iconic Tower by MMRDA.

I hope that's true. This will be truly a supertall then which is going to bring in some competition from the Iconic Tower by MMRDA.

The iconic tower aint happening. there is like zero interest in it. all hopes are on dynamix balwas, hopefully, this one goes all the way & doesnt turn out to be yet another dynamic bakwas project like iconic tower or noida tower. :lol:

The architects got changed and larven didn't tell us if the new design was close to the FxFowle one. If there was any similarity then he would have mentioned it.

The new design is nothing like the old FxFowle one. If this gets built you guys are going to get one of the most iconic skyscrapers anywhere. It will comfortably be one of the tallest buildings in the world. i.e. 500m+.

should we move this to the super tall section?

Definitely!;)

Its going to stick out like a sore thumb for quite some time to come.

No it won't. Its an iconic building and deserves to stand alone as much as possible.

Have you seen a render of this icon building?

The new design is nothing like the old FxFowle one. If this gets built you guys are going to get one of the most iconic skyscrapers anywhere. It will comfortably be one of the tallest buildings in the world. i.e. 500m+.

Can you confirm what you mentioned in your previous post regarding the two tall residential buildings coming up beside this tower....is that still going to be the case??

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@Suncity....yeah dude ive been really busy recently, though i still monitor the forum, just dont have much to contribute these days :(

@Everyone, merry xmas and a happy new year :cheers:

Can you confirm what you mentioned in your previous post regarding the two tall residential buildings coming up beside this tower....is that still going to be the case??

No....its just going to be a stand alone tower now.

Well there's plenty of activity going on behind it. And there are some plans for 50 storey towers in that area.

Sorry to be clear I meant the site itself will be occupied by the India tower only.

This tower was originally going to be 300 metres. Why did they increase it to 500?

Sorry to be clear I meant the site itself will be occupied by the India tower only.

No I know that the tower will be the only one on the site but on other blocks close by there is construction going on.

I visited the site 3 days ago when I was in Bombay. Site prep is currently underway and they've excavated quite a big chunk of land. When the main gate opened for a guy to walk in, I followed him in but was stopped by the security guards at the instance of a site engineer. If he wasn't there then I would have had a field day inside. I pleaded with the site engineer to take just one pic but he didn't budge. So I just went to the 3rd floor of the adjacent building and took a few pics and a video.

Here are 2 of the pics. I'll upload more later along with the video which shows an excavating truck doing its thing at the right most corner of the site.

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/4963/img1071.jpg


http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5299/img1072nc.jpg

IUUU! Your back. I was waiting knowing I we were gonna get great update. :cheers1:

IU

you da man. thatnks again. thats wonderful that site prep is on.

nice job IU , well done.

Those other little buildings in the adjacent areas look like they're going to fall apart any moment now , what if one of them does collapse , that would pose serious danger to a supertall next door.

nice job IU , well done.

Those other little buildings in the adjacent areas look like they're going to fall apart any moment now , what if one of them does collapse , that would pose serious danger to a supertall next door.

thank the rent laws in the city for that.

aka thankyou Nehru

those buildings are mostly full of people on rent. The rent ranges form Rs50-Rs100 a month :nuts:

Mumbai would be twice the city it is if it was not for these retarded rent laws.

can anybody post the final render?

^Na, only larven know what it looks like.

nice job IU , well done.

Those other little buildings in the adjacent areas look like they're going to fall apart any moment now , what if one of them does collapse , that would pose serious danger to a supertall next door.

They look like there made of mouldy cardboard. Hope all of them are gone and replaced by some nice new mid-rises.

BTW, if such a supertall structure is being built, it needs some space around for proper roads. It's time for the old buildings to go.

The area looks small for a 500m tall building :|

It looks so crowded with no major streets, how are they going to build a 125 story building there?

this is exactally what i was thinking, but lets hope this one turns out to be right.

Dude, that place is next to Mangalwadi. Been there since a kid. Just realized that. One of my uncles live there. From what I have heard, there's going to be some redevelopment in the area. Not sure if he was pointing towards this building.Will have to find out with him

I think I now maybe Larven is right about the new DB Tower designed by Norman Foster. There is a map for places where they have projects and there is something happening in Mumbai. I can't be sure its the tower though and the website. And for those who couldn't find it I circled it -

http://i48.tinypic.com/j80gnn.jpg

You may be right. IU's photo does not look like site of DB tower that I visited about three years back. DB tower site is much larger than this one. Bldg in IU's photo don't look familiar. My house in Mumbai is very close to DB tower.
IU did you see railway track opposite to this place? Also did you see nice and big park (SK Patil Udhyan) next to it? and there is a mosque on the other side.
DB tower site is going to look out of place since it is surronded by (especially the back side) chawl type of residential bldgs. There is one road in front of it which is only 2 lanes each direction. Since this bldg is located east of railway track it is not close to sea front but after five floors one can still have nice view of the sea. I am visiting Mumbai in May hopefully this time I will click some pictures.

Dude, that place is next to Mangalwadi. Been there since a kid. Just realized that. One of my uncles live there. From what I have heard, there's going to be some redevelopment in the area. Not sure if he was pointing towards this building.Will have to find out with him

cptracker, yes the railway line is opposite to the site and in between them is a 4 lane road (MK road or something). On the southern side of it is the park you mentioned. The tower site is quite big. What I posted above just shows a part of it. There's another part on the right side of whose pics I couldn't take cos of my location. Outside the site there's a board which reads DB Hospitality ( I have a pic of that as well). Now DB hospitality has just one project in South Bombay, so this indeed is the site.

I'm in the process of uploading the video. My camera is at a friend's place, so I can't upload the remaining pics right now.

So here are the remaining images. I haven't uploaded the video cos it's about 30 mb big (cos its HD) and my puny upload speed will take ages to upload it.

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/9934/img1067hp.jpg

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/561/img1068n.jpg

Here's the DB signboard I mentioned above. Even though it doesn't say DB hospitality as I had claimed before, this is still enough to show that the site is owned by the group and the actual site.
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/9370/img1069o.jpg

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9891/img1073v.jpg

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/9198/img1074.jpg

Here's the video. Surprisingly it took just 30 mins to upload. excuse the shoddy camerawork. It was tough to record and balance on the window ledge.


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Click on HD and then full screen for the best quality.

Here's the video. Surprisingly it took just 30 mins to upload. excuse the shoddy camerawork. It was tough to record and balance on the window ledge.


hIrNH8uM1Kw

Click on HD and then full screen for the best quality.

Bro is baar koi Roof mein mila to nahi hahaha....


i mean Doggy Shoggy aka guard shuard..haha

Bro is baar koi Roof mein mila to nahi hahaha....


i mean Doggy Shoggy aka guard shuard..haha

:lol: Pichli baar IU ne dara diya tha.

DB tower has changed to DB skyz. DB tower is now located in BKC as commercial tower of 10 to 12 stories.
I got this information on DB`s website.

Why are half our skyscrapers called Skyz? They can't be more creative, at least Aasmaan?

DB tower has changed to DB skyz. DB tower is now located in BKC as commercial tower of 10 to 12 stories.
I got this information on DB`s website.

If your talking about that I'm thinking, that little DB Tower in the BKC has been on their website for ages.

DB tower has changed to DB skyz. DB tower is now located in BKC as commercial tower of 10 to 12 stories.
I got this information on DB`s website.

So the current site of the current "DB Tower" is for "DB Skyz"?

So the current site of the current "DB Tower" is for "DB Skyz"?
^^yes

BMC nod for 103-storey India Tower

The five-star hotel-cum-service apartment coming up at Charni Road, set to be the citys tallest building, will have an FSI of 6.29 under Supreme Court directions

SUDHIR SURYAWANSHI


The Brihanmumbai Municipal Corporation recently gave the official go-ahead for the citys tallest five star hotel-cum-service apartmenta 103-floor structure named India Towerat Charni Road, next to SK Patil Garden. The building will have two observation decks on the 93rd and 94th floors, from where people can get a panoramic view of Mumbai.
This is the only building in the city to get a whopping 6.29 Floor Space Index (FSI) under the Developmental Control Rules (DCR), 1991. The prevailing vertical limit for the area restricted FSI to 1.33.
The BMC issued the commencement certificate for the project following a Supreme Court ruling that directed the state to consider the developers request for an FSI of 6.29.
The five-star hotel will have state of the art facilities including a helipad at the top. The height of the triangle-shaped building will be 305 metre. The ground floor will be spread over 1,020 sq metre, but the top floor will have only 2,22 sq metre area. The ball room will be constructed in the ancillary building adjoining the hotel. We issued the commencement certificate recently, said a senior civic official.
DB Realty has undertaken the project, with BS Joshi as the architect . As per the plan submitted to the civic body, the guest rooms will be constructed on floors 18 to 42 of the hotel. Floors 45 to 46 will have special restaurants. They have proposed long-lease rooms too. Those will be constructed on floors 53 to 74. These rooms will be given out on yearlong or twoyear lease basis. To balance and stabilise the building against air pressure , floors 86 to 99 will have structures called Tuned Mass Damper (TMD) around them. This will prevent damage due to strong wind loads, said sources.
Interestingly, floors 100 and 101 will be set aside for a VIP lounge, to be used by VIP guests and state ministers. Each floor will have three to nine rooms, depending on requirement. Excavation has started prior to laying the foundation , and the hotel will be completed in two years, said sources.
Nitesh Kumar, project manager for the construction, confirmed all the details.


The building site at Charni Road, which will have observation decks on the 93rd and 94th floors and will provide a panoramic view of Mumbai

http://lite.epaper.timesofindia.com/Repository/MMIR/2010/01/28/6/Img/Pc0060600.jpg

the hotel will be completed in two years, said sources

really?

Edit: oh this is DB Tower. My bad :D

103 Stories and only 305 metres. Guess.. tall people wouldn't be welcome to party.

^^ "The ground floor will be spread over 1,020 sq metre", that's a very small area for a 300+ meter tall building. Who knows this could be another reporting error!

I don't know whats going on with this building. First they say 300, then 500, now back down to 300. And why can't they put office space here?

And I want to become a VIP now hehe

The article is laden with errors. Here's another one - they say that the architect of the tower is BS Joshi . Now who is that? :lol:

And why can't they put office space here?

There isn't much demand for a-grade office space these days thanks to the gfc. That's the reason why some of the comm projects in the mill lands have been turned into resi developments.

That aside, this was always planned to be a hotel+service apartment development since its inception in 2007.

At least its been given the go-ahead and finally India will have a super tall.

there is something seriously wrong with this news. no 100+ flr tower is 300 meters. no way.

It will be atleast 400+ meters more close to 425-450 meters. & thats a fact.

450 Hopefully man. That's what we need.

Its about 4m to a regular floor at least? Yeah, it has to be 400+

there is something seriously wrong with this news. no 100+ flr tower is 300 meters. no way.

It will be atleast 400+ meters more close to 425-450 meters. & thats a fact.

nah, 3mtrs , 10 ft, a floor is about right for a resi.
EG; check 'the shard' in london for office block sizes ,big antriums, lots more kit taking up floors etc. 72 flrs

any update when construction going to start???

OOC, what is the category for a super tall, is it the no of floors or the overall height,
IMO, 100 floors should definately be considered a super-tall.

300m is the cut-off i think

any update when construction going to start???

It has started? Height tipped to be well over 450m though I can't say how much.

larven, can you at least give us a time frame of when Foster plans to unveil the design? http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/6080/happydw.gif

I don't know I'm afraid. The height has bounced around so much but they appear to have finally settled on a figure and I understand that the building is now U/C.

I'm surprised they haven't done a PR release or revealed the scheme publicly but then I'm sure they have their reasons. Hopefully the tower will be revealed in all its glory before too long.

any info about completion date.

^^Lets spare that question for our grandchildren.

^^ Or our great-grandchildren.

its a commercial private sector development with land acquired.

I expect it to be complete within 5 years unless DB reality goes tits up.

and based on the vibes i got on the stock market I would not totally rule that out.

http://www.topnews.in/db-realty-registers-bad-start-dalal-street-2254701

Brokers are recommending to dump this stock at the moment. the recent budget also does not help their cause.

Finally the design is out on the web. Presenting the Norman Foster designed DB tower -

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/6938/dbtowerw.jpg
It's from an investor presentation on DBR's website (http://dbrealty.in/investors/investorpresentation.php)

Larven - our tower teaser http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8495/11371342.gif has confirmed that this IS the Foster tower and it'll consists of about 100 floors while rising upto a height of 550 meters. The original tower was supposed to be around 700 meters tall.

Oh my Jebuddha! Didn't see that comming. Was looking forward to the previous though. The first boxes still my favourite.

are you serious?!?!? :dance:

THIS tower (if and when its built) will be a game changer. palais royale and the other high rises at parel like sky, orchid, etc will look like mid-rises

THIS tower (if and when its built) will be a game changer. palais royale and the other high rises at parel like sky, orchid, etc will look like mid-rises

yup

BB will you buy a flat there?

if you do

am i invited?


awesome design.......

reminds me of shard london

yes and no. or the other way round

expected start-completion - Apr’10-Mar’13

yes and no. or the other way round

expected start-completion - Apr’10-Mar’13

dammit.....

:ohno:

3 years seems a bit quick doesn't it?

I saw it in the international section. Really cool design and I have to admit I still don't believe this really going to be build until I see the first piling.

^^ 3 years is indeed way to quick for a building this size. Only the foundation will take 1.5 years at least...

Incredible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :applause:

Three years is way to quick. They said 3 years for the 80fl 300m Orchid Heights. This is almost twice that size.

The site looks really small for that tower -

I visited the site 3 days ago when I was in Bombay. Site prep is currently underway and they've excavated quite a big chunk of land. When the main gate opened for a guy to walk in, I followed him in but was stopped by the security guards at the instance of a site engineer. If he wasn't there then I would have had a field day inside. I pleaded with the site engineer to take just one pic but he didn't budge. So I just went to the 3rd floor of the adjacent building and took a few pics and a video.

Here are 2 of the pics. I'll upload more later along with the video which shows an excavating truck doing its thing at the right most corner of the site.

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/4963/img1071.jpg


http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5299/img1072nc.jpg

geez those surrounding buildings are going to make the area this building is in suck

cant the owners of these buildings atleast paint them

or are they cira 1930 renters who are still paying Rs50 per month as rent?

i am not sure thats the site. db has two sites next to each other there. one smallish one and the other one is much bigger (was waqf land iirc). the waqf land site was barricaded pretty recently and has blue and white sidings, not white and green

Finally the design is out on the web. Presenting the Norman Foster designed DB tower -

OMFG! Complete 360 on this one! Flippin' O!

The site is tight for what they have planned. Two tall residential towers and the iconic Foster designed India Tower.

Two?

should we make this page a sticky?

whats the total floor area on this

Wait the site is big enough. On this map the yellow dot is IU taking a pic from an adjacent building only being able to get a photo of half of the plot. The site is inside the red and the roads are the orange lines -

http://i40.tinypic.com/x5egcy.jpg

f**k me sideways!! :cheers: this will be, without a doubt, one of the best looking supertalls in the WORLD!

that site still doesnt look big enough, unless the neighbouring buildings are being bought and demolished. there has to be another site

Taipei101's base is only ~60m by ~60m (Not including the mall/podium whatever). You could almost fit on the site.

yeah but with this design it looks like it has a huge base. and plus you need open space around for traffic flow, etc

lets see, i'll try and pass by the site to pinpoint where exactly it is. from what i remember of going down that road last week there were two sites of db. one with white and green sidings and one with blue and white which had more frontage on maharishi karve road

Two?

I think its just the India Tower now. The site and its context have posed some obvious problems as other posters have highlighted. The state of the buildings at the back being especially acute given the obvious status and prestige of the tower itself.

Finally the design is out on the web. Presenting the Norman Foster designed DB tower -

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/6938/dbtowerw.jpg
It's from an investor presentation on DBR's website (http://dbrealty.in/investors/investorpresentation.php)

Larven - our tower teaser http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8495/11371342.gif has confirmed that this IS the Foster tower and it'll consists of about 100 floors while rising upto a height of 550 meters. The original tower was supposed to be around 700 meters tall.

I am loving it. Finally, something out of the box design. :applause:

^^ WOW

Looks Incredible!!! :bow:

This thing has got a massive spire looks almost 550m.also looking at the design,i dont think the floor plates will very big,not much saleable space methinks.But no doubt the currently the best designed supertall in the world.

Step aside Shanghai WF Center!!

ok i am not a civil engineer

but that area from what i know is highly congested(even my mumbai's standards)

so how are they going to move material like soil cement glass so quickly for them to finish it in 3 years?

I am loving it. Finally, something out of the box design. :applause:

+1

IU

thanks dude. Its definitely different. Bombay desperately needs an icon. Foster bhai has done a good job. My question is where is the space. Looks like this one needs a massive foundation.

Finally the design is out on the web. Presenting the Norman Foster designed DB tower -


ridonkculous!!!

Where is the tree?

Great looking tower, but I'll be shocked if it actually gets built.

Great looking tower, but I'll be shocked if it actually gets built.

they had an IPO recently.

It was a luke warm response, but still listed companies like DB cant wriggle their way out of this so easily.

mostly there might be a senario of reducing its height to say 300. But something will come up in that place.

I love this design, we should definitely build it if we want to make our mark on the skyline.

Now in main forum!!

MUMBAI | Dynamix-Balwas Tower | 550+ m | 100+ fl | U/C (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1104437)

they had an IPO recently.

It was a luke warm response, but still listed companies like DB cant wriggle their way out of this so easily.

mostly there might be a senario of reducing its height to say 300. But something will come up in that place.

I'll be happy if a good-looking supertall comes up in its place. Better than nothing.

Now in main forum!!

MUMBAI | Dynamix-Balwas Tower | 550+ m | 100+ fl | U/C (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1104437)
The tower is not under construction. The site is merely being prepared. There's already a thread in supertall proposals:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=471040

I'll be happy if a good-looking supertall comes up in its place. Better than nothing.


The tower is not under construction. The site is merely being prepared. There's already a thread in supertall proposals:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=471040

Yeah. didnt knew that. my bad!! only found out after creating new thread.

Now in main forum!!

MUMBAI | Dynamix-Balwas Tower | 550+ m | 100+ fl | U/C (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1104437)

good job putting it up there , especially after the disaster that was Palace Royale . Can you change the tag to Site Prep instead of u/c though

Now in main forum!!

MUMBAI | Dynamix-Balwas Tower | 550+ m | 100+ fl | U/C (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1104437)

You need to calm down.

The tower is proposed, not U/C and there is already an existing thread.

You need to calm down.

The tower is proposed, not U/C and there is already an existing thread.

dude read the preceding few posts.

btw i would like to clarify

what exactly is proposed mean?

Cause DB have issued that they will contruct a super tall at this spot in their IPO.

considering their IPO got subscribed and bought out in relation to the info given surely makes it sort of 100% confirmed?

^u/c means "under construction" and not "confirmed" I guess?

^u/c means "under construction" and not "confirmed" I guess?

well why dont we put it down as confirmed rather than proposed?

Proposed (means its still proposed)
App (approved, they have the land clearances and govt approvals)
Site Prep (leveling of ground etc before commencement of construction)
U/C (under construction)
T/O (topped off, work still to be done on interiors)

This project is App :)

dude read the preceding few posts.

btw i would like to clarify

what exactly is proposed mean?

Cause DB have issued that they will contruct a super tall at this spot in their IPO.

considering their IPO got subscribed and bought out in relation to the info given surely makes it sort of 100% confirmed?

"Proposed" is a vague term. Proposed could be just announcing that there will be a building coming up on the site or even unveiling the design of the building. At this point the builder may or may not have gotten clearance from the local govt yet. The design and building specifications may not be finalized at this point. Basically the pre-construction period.

If the tower is indeed coming up, then why is it not listed in the upcoming or ongoing commercial projects page at the DB website?

http://dbrealty.in/property.php?cat=2&stat=2

If the tower is indeed coming up, then why is it not listed in the upcoming or ongoing commercial projects page at the DB website?

http://dbrealty.in/property.php?cat=2&stat=2

maybe they in the process of updating? lets wait a few days

i agree with bharatiya

this is more like approved than proposed.

The final design is'nt approved, this is simply another design proposal. Simply the site and a supertall height has been approved.

^ahh i see

fair enough.

thanks for that.

this is the website corporate presentation

from IU's post

http://dbrealty.in/investors/Corporate%20Presentation.pdf

^There is no mention of the supertall in that presentation except for a small unlabeled photo on the last page, which could be little more than decoration.

let's not jump to any conclusions about the status of the project. The contract to build it was already handed out to L&T last year in October (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=44216612&postcount=68) which means that the Design (for the most part) HAS been fixed. What you see is above is not another design proposal but close to what is going to be built and this has been confirmed by Larven who has previously seen a rendering of it. For all we know piling work for the foundation might be taking place right now.

Regarding the size of the site, I remember speaking to a DBR official and she said that they are trying to acquire more land around the site.

Why isn't it on DB realty's website? Because it hasn't been made public yet and is not a commercial tower. It's primarily a hospitality tower (Hyatt's gonna move in) with some residential suites.

Why is it on the last page and unlabeled in that PDF? Because it hasn't been made public. Also, if you hover above the image, it clearly says India_Tower_final so it isn't a filler image.


DB had promised something iconic in this video that they had on their website:

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Now only if we can have someone to go down there and check the site out, then that would be great.

IU

Is it just me or for some reason, the triangular Foster design looks lot taller than 500-550meters range. It looks more like in the range of Burj Khalifa. Looks more like 700+ meters range as it was originally designed.

or maybe the steep never ending triangle on top gives that perception.

@ IU, give me 2 months, I'm gonna check out all these sites when I go. :)

There's a high chance that i may go in Dec or Jan. I hope it all goes to plan. If so I'll try and get some snaps. I just hope it will be off the ground by then so I can take pics from the streets instead of having to go into other buildings.

IU

Is it just me or for some reason, the triangular Foster design looks lot taller than 500-550meters range. It looks more like in the range of Burj Khalifa. Looks more like 700+ meters range as it was originally designed.

or maybe the steep never ending triangle on top gives that perception.

Yeah it is totally out of proportion to the existing buildings. The rendering is of a 700-800m tall building. Always take these renderings with a grain of salt.

slightly higher resolution

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6840/image3mg.jpg

Now only if we can have someone to go down there and check the site out, then that would be great.

BB

bobo :lol:

That might upset him

The design is just badass though. Droolworthy. I hope you are right IU.

let me ask my friend at db. he seems a bit cagey about revealing too much before an official launch, though he did tell me he would show me the final design

It would ruin the existing skyline though :D. Make everything else look tiny by comparison.

hopefully it will inspire more to build tall

hmmmmmmm

hmmmm??

No need to say that it will be the best looking skyscraper in India. Hafeez Contractor should learn thing or two from this.

But like others i am also concerned about the space where it is being built. it is small and uneven. the surrounding infra is bad bad. i dont know how will it handle such a high capacity building.

Look at the roads around Shanghai Tower's sit compared to this towers site. Mumbai doesn't not have the infrastructure for towers like these.

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http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr203/gsgcharles/54574_1270642198.jpg

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yeah thats why I asked looking at that site

how the hell are they going to move the huge amount on construction material to the site.

any experts?

been tracking their (DB) stock with some interest and they seem to have been quite stable with the announcement of the news. (obviously rises and falls with the market sentiment).

http://myiris.com/shares/company/quoteShow.php?icode=DBREALTY&select=0

but no official announcement with regards to this tower. Seem quite coy.

bombay builders are pretty skilled at moving large amounts of materials to small sites. if you think this one is hard the palais royale site is probably 3-4 times harder. but it seems to be progressing pretty well. i dont think the problem is building it. the problem might arise when its completed and the traffic converges there. the authorities need to do something about that

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yeah thats why I asked looking at that site

how the hell are they going to move the huge amount on construction material to the site.

any experts?

been tracking their (DB) stock with some interest and they seem to have been quite stable with the announcement of the news. (obviously rises and falls with the market sentiment).

http://myiris.com/shares/company/quoteShow.php?icode=DBREALTY&select=0

but no official announcement with regards to this tower. Seem quite coy.

it is not just the construction materials and stuff.
how are you going to move thousands of people working in that building after it is completed. most of them will have to use a public transport , do we have enough infra for that. a lot of them will use their cars, do we have enough parking and infra for smooth transit. plus all the stuff that goes in maintaining a building , can we do it in that limited space.
apart from that , what if someone builds few more buildings of similar size on in the same area, do we have enough infra to support those as well..
there are many questions and potential problems. private sector is doing its job but state is dragging its feet.

bombay builders are pretty skilled at moving large amounts of materials to small sites. if you think this one is hard the palais royale site is probably 3-4 times harder. but it seems to be progressing pretty well. i dont think the problem is building it. the problem might arise when its completed and the traffic converges there. the authorities need to do something about that

If that's the case how can they get clearance from the authorities? Corruption? What if there is a fire emergency in the building or even more serious matter like (God forbid) 9/11 type of attack on the building, how would rescue workers reach the building in a matter of minutes?

If that's the case how can they get clearance from the authorities? Corruption? What if there is a fire emergency in the building or even more serious matter like (God forbid) 9/11 type of attack on the building, how would rescue workers reach the building in a matter of minutes?

welcome to mumbai

even regular buildings in places which have space hire workers who live in the slums beside the construction site. Thus the neighbouring buildings have to suffer....

If that's the case how can they get clearance from the authorities? Corruption? What if there is a fire emergency in the building or even more serious matter like (God forbid) 9/11 type of attack on the building, how would rescue workers reach the building in a matter of minutes?

how would rescue workers reach any building in that area? its hard for rescue workers to reach most places in bombay, this will be no different. probably better off than most actually, its close to bombay hospital and i dont think the fire service is too far off either

The Shanghai tower has 8 lanes on all four sides. They'll barely be able to manage two in Mumbai.

4 lanes each side

I counted eight :dunno:

The Shanghai tower has 8 lanes on all four sides. They'll barely be able to manage two in Mumbai.

In China they build infrastructure first, the rest of the development follows. Its opposite here...

I think its the problem with our attitude. Its the same in sports. We first ask our players to prove (except cricket) and then if they are successful, give them meager grants. In china they build infrastructure, stadiums, all facilities and promote sports, without the pressure of proving themselves. Result, although we have similar population, China stands at top three in medal tally consistently... India's name is not to be seen. Bindra got the gold medal because his dad was rich enough to give him the infrastructure needed. There was not much from Govt.

Something we need to think about before we dream of superpower. There's lot to catch up.

I counted eight :dunno:

i meant bombay

and the shanghai building has 6. one lane brances off for the turn on all sides. the fixed lanes are 3 each direction

I think it's the Indian way to count lanes on the opposite side as well. For example, they would say this highway has 4 lanes, what they mean is it has 2 lanes in one direction and 2 in the opposite direction. If you tell someone here that the highway has 4 lanes, he/she would think that 4 lanes in one direction.

In the Shanghai picture, there are three lanes on all four sides.

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3, not counting the turning lane because the turning lane is not the actual lane.

now that you have changed your post its fine

can we get back on track?

We don't have track yet. :) All we have is one out of proportion rendering. What else to talk about in this thread?

Correct me if I am wrong, but is this the same site for which Hyatt Corp of Chicago has signed a concessionaire agreement to run the Park Hyatt?? The last time I checked, the said building (which Hyatt is targetting) was supposed to be 125 flrs, and would be in Marine Lines.

The Shanghai tower has 8 lanes on all four sides. They'll barely be able to manage two in Mumbai.That doesn't matter. The Shard in London is arising amid tightly packed, narrow, and congested city streets, yet the concrete mixer trucks are still able to deliver hundreds of loads per day, around the clock.