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KuwarOnline
November 30th, 2010, 10:02 AM
^^ see this thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1259909) and count the amount of private power projects in southern and eastern section because maha has 10% share at least with these projects+ many projects in maha at Ratnagiri are ending completion+ many of state electricity board will go online by 2014-15.

it has happened in delhi... one could have never thought 10yrs or even 5yrs back that we will 24hrs power as there were 3-4 hrs blackouts almost everyday but IT HAS HAPPENED and i am sure by 2015 maha will have enough power :cheers:
+1, Maha will have enough power may be more....

http://lite.epaper.timesofindia.com/Repository/TOIM/2010/11/30/6/Img/Pc0061400.jpg

dreadathecontrols
November 30th, 2010, 12:42 PM
ignore him



and for the record, me using terms like "old chum" comes across as sarcasm and terms lifted from watching sitcoms like "Yes Minister" on TV in India

what next you pick up a few terms from American sitcoms, and your all of a sudden American?


Go back to your british section and comment there "englishman"


PS I picked up the word "geez" from watching American movies and sitcoms. Not British

yes mate i know it was sarcasm . I was being ironic.
'Geez' is english .From geezer , cockney for bloke or mate or a bit of a lad.
Cant imagine what its doing in US sitcoms.
Look , the last city scenes in slumdog are of them all in a tower block looking at the huge amount of towers in the view.
Why do you care about what badly informed people think about india , those whose opinion will never matter?
those whose buisnes means that they know are fully aware that india is on the move.
But slumdog is a reality of bombay life , like it or not.
Its about the criminal underworld
And if you think its a tiny part of it then you know not india well.
and as regards me staying put in the UK section.
SSC is an international forum(and both it and I pre-date you)
I have been active in other (asian) sections also over the years and met serious resistence .
But it always ended up that i was eventually let in as a brother (being admitted to other non SSC private national forums) because i do actually know what im on about.
And people do like to hear that even if its challenging.
that is why the SSCI mods have allowed me to post here.
And it would be both advisable and pleasent for you to get over it
:)

Bombay Boy
November 30th, 2010, 01:12 PM
geez in the US is more slang for 'jeeeesus', not geezer

MeMumbaikar
November 30th, 2010, 01:24 PM
yes mate i know it was sarcasm . I was being ironic.
'Geez' is english .From geezer , cockney for bloke or mate or a bit of a lad.
Cant imagine what its doing in US sitcoms.
Look , the last city scenes in slumdog are of them all in a tower block looking at the huge amount of towers in the view.
Why do you care about what badly informed people think about india , those whose opinion will never matter?
those whose buisnes means that they know are fully aware that india is on the move.
But slumdog is a reality of bombay life , like it or not.
Its about the criminal underworld
And if you think its a tiny part of it then you know not india well.
and as regards me staying put in the UK section.
SSC is an international forum(and both it and I pre-date you)
I have been active in other (asian) sections also over the years and met serious resistence .
But it always ended up that i was eventually let in as a brother (being admitted to other non SSC private national forums) because i do actually know what im on about.
And people do like to hear that even if its challenging.
that is why the SSCI mods have allowed me to post here.
And it would be both advisable and pleasent for you to get over it
:)

bla bla bla "englishman"

geez (jz)
interj.
Used to express mild surprise, delight, dissatisfaction, or annoyance.
[Shortening and alteration of Jesus.]

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/geez



you did not post jack in any other asian community. I went through your post history and 1 or 2 posts once in a blue moon does not count. so stop making stuff up.

dreadathecontrols
November 30th, 2010, 07:45 PM
you did not post jack in any other asian community. I went through your post history and 1 or 2 posts once in a blue moon does not count. so stop making stuff up.

you mean jeez not geez.

ok dipstick i have lost my fucking patience with you, now that youve called me a liar.
im a tolerant guy
why would i bother lying to an i**** like you?
Is that what you'd do to big yourself up in the playground?
Post history only goes back to 2009, no?

I can assure, and the mods will be aware if im lying or not, that i was posting regularly in the chinese section around the time of the olympics that lead to me colaberationg with some chinese , doing some reasearch on their history.
Many , many posts and very long and indepth disscussions lasting many weeks
And very rewarding
Before that , maybe 3/4 years ago(?) i was posting on the pakistan forum for a while (man did i get some hostility there as they thought i was indian from my post history)
that went on for months
Got into serious spat with one of their old mods , the immortal UP pakistan before being invited personally by him to become a member of a pakistani only social issues forum .
i was very honoured to be allowed to do that.
now you can call me what you like i dont care.
and this forum has the capability for you to block posts from anyone ,which you can use to block mine(ask the mods how to do it , i forget)
i suggest you do thatI dont care.
but you cannot call me a liar in public and get away with it .
(if you couldnt hide behind your screen you couldnt , as i punch youre tossing face in)
if you dont apoligise for that i will try to get you banned at least temporarilly.
you are bang fucking out of order.
mods i am formally asking you to act on this public defamation of character. Ask him to retract his statement that im lying please, as you know that i aint :)

MeMumbaikar
November 30th, 2010, 08:23 PM
^
i did not read any off that


but your still a lier

dreadathecontrols
November 30th, 2010, 09:04 PM
liar is spelt with an 'a' . . . . .

Bombay Boy
December 2nd, 2010, 07:01 PM
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/6148/15530110150091840506311.jpg

KuwarOnline
December 2nd, 2010, 07:56 PM
:rofl:

bhargavsura
December 2nd, 2010, 11:15 PM
Good one.

bharatiya
December 3rd, 2010, 12:16 AM
hahahahah nice

Jai
December 3rd, 2010, 03:52 AM
^
i did not read any off that


but your still a lier
wtf man.

lay off dread. The dude is for real and good people. He cool as fuqin lassi and an SSC India oldie. OG long before you been here.

Master of Disguise
December 3rd, 2010, 06:14 AM
wtf man.

lay off dread. The dude is for real and good people. He cool as fuqin lassi and an SSC India oldie. OG long before you been here.



So what He's still a Lier ..!!!!

Good one BB...now all shut up..you got the message ehh

Yagya
December 3rd, 2010, 03:27 PM
wtf man.

lay off dread. The dude is for real and good people. He cool as fuqin lassi and an SSC India oldie. OG long before you been here.

I don't think ssc has a hierarchy anyway :pet:

sixsigma1978
December 3rd, 2010, 06:05 PM
I don't think this thread is achieving anything noteworthy anymore. Most of the discussions seem to be unrelated - more worth of Discussions. I think it might be better to move this to some archive thread - so people spend more energy on the threads that matter and don't get distracted by controversies - especially around a COMPLETED project whose pics have been posted again and again for completeness.
I feel this thread has achieved its purpose and should be archived!!!

MeMumbaikar
December 3rd, 2010, 08:01 PM
wtf man.

lay off dread. The dude is for real and good people. He cool as fuqin lassi and an SSC India oldie. OG long before you been here.

he is more than one person?


anyways fine geez

I am sorry dread or dreads

One suggestion though. Can you not write like poetry. I sometimes cant make head or tail of what your written.

Also can you not be negative about every single thing? Its the same with you and that India Tower. By all means hold your reservations on the thing. But dont consistently post the same negetive track over and over again.

mods clean it up.

Yagya
December 3rd, 2010, 08:27 PM
Why isn't this thread locked like the CWG one? the thing is finished now.... any pics can be posted in mumbai cityscapes...

sixsigma1978
December 3rd, 2010, 08:56 PM
Why isn't this thread locked like the CWG one? the thing is finished now.... any pics can be posted in mumbai cityscapes...

+1 - I had posted this to the Mods - someone replied telling me that there is still scope for more pics. But I don't agree - this thread should be sealed - too much discussion going on here..and I fear other projects are not getting the attention they deserve!!

bhargavsura
December 3rd, 2010, 09:42 PM
he is more than one person?


anyways fine geez

I am sorry dread or dreads


Man, just ignore and move on. That's it or don't bother replying.

Suncity
December 4th, 2010, 06:26 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-11854177

"The skyscraper in Mumbai (Bombay), which overlooks sprawling slums"

:lol:

if peddar road and breach candy is a sprawling slum i wonder what the bbc would make of dharavi

BBC's reporting of third world countries is basically third rate.

:lol:

Suncity
December 4th, 2010, 06:32 PM
Ok so let's assume dread is from some dreadful land. does it make a difference?At least in the India forums, if we disagree with critcism, let's argue on valid points rather than on perceived nationality of the poster.

sammyk
December 5th, 2010, 01:52 AM
^^ If I'm not mistaken his user name refers to a reggae artist.

Yagya
December 5th, 2010, 10:48 AM
i think it just says

dread the controls

sathya_226
December 5th, 2010, 11:28 AM
Iam sure he is an Indian , probably an NRI who never likes to return back to him home land......

India101
December 6th, 2010, 10:10 AM
wtf is wrong with BBC, the Peddar Road/Tardeo area is one of the cleanest and richest in Mumbai. "Sprawling slum", they need to get their arses down there and see for themselves.

shreyansh
December 6th, 2010, 12:33 PM
What more do expect from them?^^

kingfisher09
December 6th, 2010, 03:50 PM
What more do expect from them?^^

+1
Bloody Bastard Corporation BBC

ssusa
December 6th, 2010, 07:07 PM
The Britishers are never been able to digest India's progress but who cares.

Jai
December 6th, 2010, 08:04 PM
he is more than one person?
Really dude? Really?

Suncity
December 8th, 2010, 02:24 AM
Leave dread alone.


Looks like somebody is painting their house!

photo copyright ikmpatel (http://www.flickr.com/photos/36729826@N05/)

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/382/mumbaiikmpatel.jpg (http://img508.imageshack.us/i/mumbaiikmpatel.jpg/)

daaceisbak
December 8th, 2010, 04:18 PM
that orange building does look like a slum next to this beauty

bhargavsura
December 8th, 2010, 11:50 PM
It was probably white, turned orange due to paint quality, rust, and the weather condition.

Mahratta
December 10th, 2010, 06:18 AM
Man, Antilla's looking good in that last picture.

dreadathecontrols
December 10th, 2010, 03:52 PM
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/6148/15530110150091840506311.jpg

Still the master.
where d'you get that?


wtf man.

lay off dread. The dude is for real and good people. He cool as fuqin lassi and an SSC India oldie. OG long before you been here.

thats nice mate :cheers:

Where u Mr Man? international only or?

Although its great for the ego to have a few posts about me can we finish now ?
memumbaikar called me a lier(!) .
I gave him evidence of his mistake, whether he looked at it or not.
If hes big enough to apologies i'll accept it.
If not i cant enforce it.
He aint stupid or deliberately disrespectfull just young and got over excited.
But MMB poetry IS what this old beat does daddyo.
Get in it.
Get real with it.
Get undah it.
Get it on ya.
Love its smothering lushness and lather over ALL you're oderous orifices
yeh yeh yeh

this is an arkeetektoor forum
Architecture is 3D urban art .
It comprises craft,funtionality and beauty.
When will you all get that?
It aint a fuououking playground race to impress the arabs with a cities phallic possabilites.
SSC is art
Or it should be
India , well much of it, is art.
Many oriental cities are based on the principles of fung swei(chinese sacred goemetry).
Push your urbanisers to build your cities in the poetry of Vastu.
WTF not? :)

soccerhero
December 11th, 2010, 12:13 AM
^^:)

Bombay Boy
December 11th, 2010, 09:02 AM
where d'you get that?

some local rag

dreadathecontrols
December 11th, 2010, 01:41 PM
^^^^^^

Which? can i view it online?


that orange building does look like a slum next to this beauty

maybe thats what british bitches corperation eedjuts saw ?

Bombay Boy
December 11th, 2010, 03:27 PM
sorry, cant remember which paper it was :dunno:

Suncity
December 11th, 2010, 03:34 PM
^^^^^^

Which? can i view it online?




maybe thats what british bitches corperation eedjuts saw ?

The BBC folks have xray eyes. They can see through buildings you know. The only problem is that they are not seeing that they are slowly losing their credibility in their ex empire. Of course there will be paon chantus but their numbers are decreasing considerably.

dreadathecontrols
December 11th, 2010, 07:53 PM
The BBC folks have xray eyes. They can see through buildings you know. The only problem is that they are not seeing that they are slowly losing their credibility in their ex empire. Of course there will be paon chantus but their numbers are decreasing considerably.

you'll all miss 'em when all you've got left is murdoch :bash:

adhishvelu
December 12th, 2010, 02:15 AM
that orange building does look like a slum next to this beauty

It was probably white, turned orange due to paint quality, rust, and the weather condition.

^^^^^^

Which? can i view it online?




maybe thats what british bitches corperation eedjuts saw ?

The building you'll are talking about is called Kenilworth and houses BARC employees.

India101
December 12th, 2010, 02:39 AM
Real big, hi-res pic

Dec 5
Copyright Siddarth Bhandary
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/6366/52488862728bd426c7aao.jpg

jaadu
December 12th, 2010, 06:23 AM
^^

This building is so damn beautiful !!!

kshatriya
December 12th, 2010, 04:17 PM
Still the master.
where d'you get that?




thats nice mate :cheers:

Where u Mr Man? international only or?

Although its great for the ego to have a few posts about me can we finish now ?
memumbaikar called me a lier(!) .
I gave him evidence of his mistake, whether he looked at it or not.
If hes big enough to apologies i'll accept it.
If not i cant enforce it.
He aint stupid or deliberately disrespectfull just young and got over excited.
But MMB poetry IS what this old beat does daddyo.
Get in it.
Get real with it.
Get undah it.
Get it on ya.
Love its smothering lushness and lather over ALL you're oderous orifices
yeh yeh yeh

this is an arkeetektoor forum
Architecture is 3D urban art .
It comprises craft,funtionality and beauty.
When will you all get that?
It aint a fuououking playground race to impress the arabs with a cities phallic possabilites.
SSC is art
Or it should be
India , well much of it, is art.
Many oriental cities are based on the principles of fung swei(chinese sacred goemetry).
Push your urbanisers to build your cities in the poetry of Vastu.
WTF not? :)
LOL. Good to see you still posting here breadrolls.

KuwarOnline
December 12th, 2010, 05:36 PM
thanks 101, for high res pic.... :cheers:

Suncity
December 12th, 2010, 05:45 PM
you'll all miss 'em when all you've got left is murdoch :bash:

why is murdoch style news getting so popular nowadays? A backlash of the majority folks who are conservative burying the myth of liberal values of the majority?

dreadathecontrols
December 13th, 2010, 12:41 PM
LOL. Good to see you still posting here breadrolls.

G'day Mr Man.missed you here and in the real world.U still in Shardville?
Hope ur doin' superfine

why is murdoch style news getting so popular nowadays? A backlash of the majority folks who are conservative burying the myth of liberal values of the majority?

Yep.
exept its a myth of conservative majority.
its a 50/50 split.
Murdochs getting em noisy...

kshatriya
December 13th, 2010, 05:04 PM
G'day Mr Man.missed you here and in the real world.U still in Shardville?
Hope ur doin' superfine
I'm doing fine thanks, at home now. Hope you're well. -)

dreadathecontrols
December 13th, 2010, 06:47 PM
I'm doing fine thanks, at home now. Hope you're well. -)

ten posts in a year.
3 in the last week.
u got that bug ......
Hope cockneytahn was nice to you.
Bet ur glad to be out of them winters though....
Anything u miss at all ?
Besides hoves beaches :lol:

kshatriya
December 14th, 2010, 03:05 PM
ten posts in a year.
3 in the last week.
u got that bug ......
Hope cockneytahn was nice to you.
Bet ur glad to be out of them winters though....
Anything u miss at all ?
Besides hoves beaches :lol:
Haha yeah heard the winter's been terrible. Brighton was mad and Laandon was awesome, had an epic time. Miss a lot of things, people especially.

I've also been here everyday lurking. Your trolling motivated me to make a post. :tongue2: haha

dreadathecontrols
December 14th, 2010, 05:13 PM
Haha yeah heard the winter's been terrible. Brighton was mad and Laandon was awesome, had an epic time. Miss a lot of things, people especially.

I've also been here everyday lurking. Your trolling motivated me to make a post. :tongue2: haha
:lol:

India101
December 16th, 2010, 10:33 AM
Nov 26
Copyright India101
http://i56.tinypic.com/2pyutmd.jpg

Coolguyz
December 16th, 2010, 10:47 AM
nice pic

OT ,to add more class to the already illustrious street, Aston martin would be soon opening their 1st showroom in India down the road

bhargavsura
December 17th, 2010, 12:10 AM
Lol. Aston Martin on Indian roads. I hope they come with Lifetime warranties.

KuwarOnline
December 17th, 2010, 08:18 AM
why? are they made of plastic??? :lol:

RiSHi
February 25th, 2011, 08:06 AM
photograhs by Yv from Holland forum .

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/6995/dscn0839v.jpg
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/1623/dscn0842c.jpg
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/7250/dscn0851d.jpg
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/6288/dscn0846t.jpg
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/1558/dscn0847z.jpg
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/50/dscn0852k.jpg

Cov Boy
February 25th, 2011, 02:41 PM
Excellent pics!

India101
February 26th, 2011, 06:14 AM
I'm waiting for all those plants to grow so we can how the building is really meant to look.

desiyogi
March 14th, 2011, 12:08 AM
Still the master.
where d'you get that?




thats nice mate :cheers:

Where u Mr Man? international only or?

Although its great for the ego to have a few posts about me can we finish now ?
memumbaikar called me a lier(!) .
I gave him evidence of his mistake, whether he looked at it or not.
If hes big enough to apologies i'll accept it.
If not i cant enforce it.
He aint stupid or deliberately disrespectfull just young and got over excited.
But MMB poetry IS what this old beat does daddyo.
Get in it.
Get real with it.
Get undah it.
Get it on ya.
Love its smothering lushness and lather over ALL you're oderous orifices
yeh yeh yeh

this is an arkeetektoor forum
Architecture is 3D urban art .
It comprises craft,funtionality and beauty.
When will you all get that?
It aint a fuououking playground race to impress the arabs with a cities phallic possabilites.
SSC is art
Or it should be
India , well much of it, is art.
Many oriental cities are based on the principles of fung swei(chinese sacred goemetry).
Push your urbanisers to build your cities in the poetry of Vastu.
WTF not? :)

:-/ feng shui !

united
May 8th, 2011, 09:41 AM
Even Anil Ambani is making his own private residence like his brother in Pali Hill,Bandra. As per the news he has got the permission to make it to a height of 66 meters but has asked for more.

Illusionist
May 8th, 2011, 09:52 AM
i have heard that he hasnt moved in yet due to his belief in vaastu shastra.

bhargavsura
May 8th, 2011, 02:27 PM
Really?Whats the belief? Any ideas when he will be moving in?

Cov Boy
May 8th, 2011, 03:01 PM
He has moved in.

The family moved in last year before Diwali.

His Diwali bash & housewarming was covered in the local press.

I am more interested in Anil's new place however he has Seawind to himself plus a recently added helipad.

KuwarOnline
August 4th, 2011, 08:30 PM
Maha denies CBI probe into Mukesh Ambani's Antilla home

http://www.rediff.com/business/slide-show/slide-show-1-maha-denies-cbi-probe-into-mukesh-ambanis-antilla-home/20110804.htm

williemore
August 5th, 2011, 12:07 AM
as expected huh?

KuwarOnline
August 5th, 2011, 07:24 AM
Actually I didnt expected....

KB335ci2
October 10th, 2011, 07:43 AM
I meant to post this months ago, but forgot to :P Antilla was featured in the February issue of Wallpaper magazine.
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2297/antilla.jpg

archzine
October 10th, 2011, 08:15 AM
So few people have a problem with this building, it bothers me.. Lacs of people in this country don't eat twice a day or even one good meal. But this guy goes and spends 4000+ crores on a house for a family of 4 (I think). It's not tasteful and no matter how good the building looks, it looks bad to me when I think of the money.

I realise it's his money and he whatever the fuck he wants with it, but can't you build a nice bungalow with 100 crores?

KB335ci2
October 10th, 2011, 08:19 AM
^^ Aah, give it a rest mate. I'm sick of people telling others how to spend their money. No one tells you how to spend yours, yeah? Don't buy that BMW this Diwali, get a Nano instead...load o' BS

What's this silly obsession with bungalows anyway? This is Bombay city - a vertical city. No one gives a rats ass about some stupid low-lying bungalow here.

jaadu
October 10th, 2011, 08:39 AM
Also its not that it cost 4000 crores to build but more like the market value of the floor area created is close to that value .. cmmon even a skyscraper does not cost 1 billion dollars to build if you remove the land cost !!

rmvdweller
October 10th, 2011, 09:00 AM
So few people have a problem with this building, it bothers me.. Lacs of people in this country don't eat twice a day or even one good meal. But this guy goes and spends 4000+ crores on a house for a family of 4 (I think). It's not tasteful and no matter how good the building looks, it looks bad to me when I think of the money.

I realise it's his money and he whatever the fuck he wants with it, but can't you build a nice bungalow with 100 crores?

What's with all these people with few posts coming up and whining on India threads recently? :ohno:

Lots of people make less money that you. Have you ever felt guilty about buying a new car, or splurging on clothes and shoes?

Give all your money to the poor, and reduce yourself to the "lowest common denominator" - I am surprised that you have the heart to spend on unnecessary luxuries like the computer and automobiles, when so many poor people don't get two meals a day.

Munwon
October 10th, 2011, 09:17 AM
Does anyone have some photos of the interior?

KB335ci2
October 10th, 2011, 09:18 AM
You wouldn't want to see what the interior looks like. It is ugliness beyond belief.

Cov Boy
October 10th, 2011, 11:26 AM
I would love to see the interior hehe.

KavirajG
October 10th, 2011, 11:46 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1333849/Mukesh-Ambani-s-housewarming-party-80-guests-630m-21st-century-Taj-Mahal.html
Some pix!

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/03/02/article-1360389-0D16C860000005DC-825_964x658.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/10/14/article-1320426-0B9BD3DB000005DC-346_634x752.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/10/15/article-1320426-0B9FB6AF000005DC-243_634x435.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/10/15/article-1320426-0B9FB794000005DC-387_634x423.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/10/14/article-1320426-0B9BD44D000005DC-549_634x336.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/10/15/article-1320426-0B9FB7AD000005DC-310_306x243.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/10/15/article-1320426-0B9FB7A1000005DC-255_306x243.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/10/15/article-1320426-0BA011F6000005DC-118_634x698.jpg

dumbassmus
October 10th, 2011, 06:39 PM
They oughta light it up with LEDs in night... or do they already?

KavirajG
October 10th, 2011, 07:21 PM
^^ No info about that. What I know is that the house has parking facilities for 170 cars and 9 elevators in the lobby! :nuts:

Coolguyz
October 10th, 2011, 07:31 PM
They oughta light it up with LEDs in night... or do they already?

Its after all a private residence so sometimes they lit it sometimes they dont. Like yesterday after Mumbai Indians won the cup,they had lit it completely

rathibent
October 10th, 2011, 08:30 PM
saw 100s of school kids(looked like from poor families) queued up to enter Antllia today...might be from nita ambani's ngo...Does this building have some Reliance foundation NGO school as well?

gentem
October 19th, 2011, 05:40 AM
This Luxurious House Is Not a Home (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/19/business/global/this-luxurious-house-is-not-a-home.html)
Kainaz Amaria for The New York Times

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/10/19/business/global/19ambani-span/19ambani-span-articleLarge.jpg
Mukesh Ambani's 27-story home Antilia, which has three helipads, six floors of parking and a series of floating gardens, has yet to become Mr. Ambani's main residence.
By VIKAS BAJAJ
Published: October 18, 2011

MUMBAI, India — When India’s richest man completed his extravagant 27-story new house here last year, it incited a public debate along the lines of “What’s he trying to prove?”

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Now, the chatter involves a different question: Why hasn’t he moved in?

The owner, Mukesh Ambani, and his spokesman have declined to discuss the matter, leaving the theorists plenty of room to ruminate. One popular explanation is that, despite the time and money lavished upon it, the building does not conform to the ancient Indian architectural doctrine known as Vastu Shastra. (More on that below.)

Certainly the home — which is called Antilia and according to Indian news reports has three helipads, six floors of parking and a series of floating gardens — looks lived in.

At night, the cantilevered tower is lit up bottom to top, inside and out. Members of the city’s moneyed class report attending movie screenings in the theater and eating dinners in the grand ballroom, served by a staff trained by the luxury Oberoi hotel chain.

Yet, friends of the family say that after the last canapés have been served and the guests bidden goodbye, the Ambanis often decamp to Sea Wind. That is the more modest, 14-story apartment tower at the south end of the city that Mr. Ambani, his wife, Nita, and three children, share — on different floors — with his mother and his estranged younger brother, Anil, and Anil’s family.

When does Mukesh Ambani plan to actually move into Antilia?

“I have asked him the question twice,” said a friend who has attended several parties there. He asked not to be identified for fear of ruining his relationship with Mr. Ambani, whose net worth Forbes has estimated at $27 billion. “He said, ‘Yes, we’ll go next month. Let it be done.’ They don’t talk about it.”

Another close family friend confirmed that the Ambani family did not live at Antilia but said they did sleep there “sometimes.” This friend, who also insisted on anonymity to avoid offending Mr. Ambani, had no explanation.

Tushar Pania, a spokesman for Mr. Ambani’s company, Reliance Industries, dismissed questions about whether the family was living at Antilia as idle gossip. “It’s a private home. There is no reason to discuss it in public.”

He said the family had moved in, but when asked whether the family still lived at Sea Wind, he revised: “They live in both places.”

But why would someone build what is widely considered the world’s most expensive private residence and then use it as a pied-à-terre?

Some friends, business associates and Ambani watchers posit the Vastu explanation, which gained wider currency earlier this year when DNA, an English-language newspaper in Mumbai, published an article about it citing “sources in the know.”

Vastu, a philosophy particularly significant in Hindu temple architecture, emphasizes the importance of directional alignments that create spiritual harmony. Many Hindus believe that living in a building not built according to vastu principles brings bad luck.

Basannt R. Rasiwasia, a Vastu expert whose clients include prominent businessmen and their families — although not Mr. Ambani — said Antilia appeared to run afoul of one of the key principles of Vastu: the building’s eastern side does not have enough windows or other openings to let residents receive ample morning light.

“From the outside what I see is that the eastern side is blocked while the western side is more open,” he said. “This always leads to misunderstanding between team members or sometime may create issues. This also indicates more hard work to achieve moderate success. There is more negative energy coming from the western side.”

Mr. Rasiwasia cautioned that he could not provide a full analysis since he had not been inside the building, which was designed by the architectural firm Perkins & Will and the interior design firm Hirsch Bedner Associates, both American. Officials from the firms declined to comment, citing confidentiality agreements.

Even before it was built, Antilia was clouded by controversy. Mr. Ambani acquired the plot where the tower sits, on Altamount Road, in 2002. He bought it for 215 million rupees ($4.4 million) from a Muslim charitable trust that elsewhere operated an orphanage.

Muslim political leaders and other critics said the land was sold for only a small fraction of its market value. Mr. Ambani acquired the property in an auction, and his spokesman has denied allegations that he paid less than the land’s market value.

Last year, as Antilia was nearing completion, many Mumbai residents criticized the building as an ostentatious display of wealth in a country where most people live on less than $2 a day and a city where more than half the population lives in slums. Many domestic and foreign newspapers — including The New York Times — wrote about those sentiments, which one friend said upset the Ambanis.

Gyan Prakash, a history professor at Princeton University who wrote the book “Mumbai Fables,” said the criticism could have influenced the family’s decision not to make Antilia their full-time residence.

“It is one thing to brashly announce your arrival in the billionaire’s club by looking down on the rest of the city from your gated community in the sky,” he said via e-mail, “but then you may realize that it is lonely at the top!”

Even if the Ambanis now have reservations about Antilia, the building appears to have some admirers. A half-mile away, in the waterfront Breach Candy neighborhood that is home to the American consulate, another rich Mumbai business clan, the Singhania family, is building a tower with cantilevered floors. Many say it resembles Antilia.

The move-in date? Don’t ask.

Sagar Joshi, a spokesman for Raymond Ltd., the retail company controlled by the Singhanias, declined to answer questions about the building.

Neha Thirani contributed reporting.

Cov Boy
October 19th, 2011, 01:03 PM
Oh please!

Do we care?

Leave them alone!

MAhmadX840
October 21st, 2011, 08:29 AM
:lol:yeh to hona hi tha
:cheers:doodh ka doodh paani ka paani

archzine
October 23rd, 2011, 12:59 PM
^^ Aah, give it a rest mate. I'm sick of people telling others how to spend their money. No one tells you how to spend yours, yeah? Don't buy that BMW this Diwali, get a Nano instead...load o' BS

What's this silly obsession with bungalows anyway? This is Bombay city - a vertical city. No one gives a rats ass about some stupid low-lying bungalow here.

Well I am not telling him how to spend his money.. but anyway :ohno:

flyinfishjoe
October 23rd, 2011, 04:00 PM
^^ Aah, give it a rest mate. I'm sick of people telling others how to spend their money. No one tells you how to spend yours, yeah? Don't buy that BMW this Diwali, get a Nano instead...load o' BS

What's this silly obsession with bungalows anyway? This is Bombay city - a vertical city. No one gives a rats ass about some stupid low-lying bungalow here.
:ohno:

KB335ci2
October 24th, 2011, 08:49 AM
:ohno:

What happened to you? :ohno:

achemsRaZor
October 24th, 2011, 09:55 AM
Their home, their taste, their money - ergo - their choice. They can decide to move in or let the whole place go to rot - as they say - what goes of our fathers?

archzine
October 24th, 2011, 10:39 AM
Yes just people can talk.. can't they? ^^

jedviper
October 24th, 2011, 08:37 PM
So few people have a problem with this building, it bothers me.. Lacs of people in this country don't eat twice a day or even one good meal. But this guy goes and spends 4000+ crores on a house for a family of 4 (I think). It's not tasteful and no matter how good the building looks, it looks bad to me when I think of the money.

I realise it's his money and he whatever the fuck he wants with it, but can't you build a nice bungalow with 100 crores?

lacs of ppls don't eat twice a day is not ambani's mistake.... our politicians and government are responsible for it.... Ambanis worked hard to earn this money... Reliance has provided employment to millions of employees, contractors, small workshop, companies... they have created wealth for investors through stock...


So Ambanis deserves to live in such a stylish home

KuwarOnline
October 24th, 2011, 09:05 PM
lacs of ppls don't eat twice a day is not ambani's mistake.... our politicians and government are responsible for it.... Ambanis worked hard to earn this money... Reliance has provided employment to millions of employees, contractors, small workshop, companies... they have created wealth for investors through stock...


So Ambanis deserves to live in such a stylish home

Nicely said bro... they have not only created wealth for them-self but for all who invested in reliance, also create lots jobs directly/indirectly.

flyinfishjoe
October 24th, 2011, 09:07 PM
What happened to you? :ohno:
I was talking about your comment that no one cares about the old bungalows. I disagree. :)

KB335ci2
October 25th, 2011, 07:42 AM
I was talking about your comment that no one cares about the old bungalows. I disagree. :)

I never said anything about 'old' bungalows :)

India101
October 25th, 2011, 08:00 AM
^He must have read it wrong.

But it's true, having a bungalow in central Mumbai would be ridiculous in this day. There is hardly any space, plus you would want to escape the noise and pollution from the streets below.

MeMumbaikar
October 25th, 2011, 08:48 AM
lacs of ppls don't eat twice a day is not ambani's mistake.... our politicians and government are responsible for it.... Ambanis worked hard to earn this money... Reliance has provided employment to millions of employees, contractors, small workshop, companies... they have created wealth for investors through stock...


So Ambanis deserves to live in such a stylish home


at the same time the ambanis do tend to wriggle out of a lot of taxes legally and illegally.

Maybe they should pay their taxes like everybody else

http://www.indianexpress.com/oldStory/68770/


Its an open secret that Reliance (anil and Mukesh) are right at the top when it comes to dodging tax Corporate and personal. Not to mention employing all kinds of means to gain inside information.

archzine
October 25th, 2011, 09:11 AM
lacs of ppls don't eat twice a day is not ambani's mistake.... our politicians and government are responsible for it.... Ambanis worked hard to earn this money... Reliance has provided employment to millions of employees, contractors, small workshop, companies... they have created wealth for investors through stock...


So Ambanis deserves to live in such a stylish home

well its debatable how hard they worked to earn the money..

KuwarOnline
October 25th, 2011, 03:56 PM
well its debatable how hard they worked to earn the money..

Well you have to read Dirubhai's Biography for that. Or see GURU movie :)

jedviper
October 25th, 2011, 04:03 PM
at the same time the ambanis do tend to wriggle out of a lot of taxes legally and illegally.

Maybe they should pay their taxes like everybody else

http://www.indianexpress.com/oldStory/68770/


Its an open secret that Reliance (anil and Mukesh) are right at the top when it comes to dodging tax Corporate and personal. Not to mention employing all kinds of means to gain inside information.

if they are not paying taxes, then why indian govt.not punished them? you must admit one thing, their money is not scammed like our politicians making.... interestingly nobody shouts against big homes of sharad pawar, murli deora, prafulla patel, vilasrao deshmukh etc....

jedviper
October 25th, 2011, 04:05 PM
well its debatable how hard they worked to earn the money..

if they had not bribed govt. or bureaucracy, then their opponent had grabbed the opportunity........ its' our fault that we are corrupt....

flyinfishjoe
October 25th, 2011, 09:15 PM
I never said anything about 'old' bungalows :)
Okay then, if you say so. :laugh:

MeMumbaikar
October 26th, 2011, 07:38 PM
if they are not paying taxes, then why indian govt.not punished them? you must admit one thing, their money is not scammed like our politicians making.... interestingly nobody shouts against big homes of sharad pawar, murli deora, prafulla patel, vilasrao deshmukh etc....

thats just bull crap.

everybody i know on this forum has been shouting about them. Nobody is defending the politicians. I dont care what Ambani's do with their money provided.


the Indian government as usual is too pussy to go after the Ambani brothers. But a fact remains a fact that indian corporates dont pay their taxes in full.

and actually the word "scam" does not simply mean politicians. Technically Maruti Suzuki was one big scam with Sanjay Gandhi and Suzuki. As was Dhirubhai Ambani "importing" "exporting" in the earlier part of his career.


Lets face it dude, its not as if corporate India is paying its' due's to government or the people.


You also talk about the stock rises etc. Mukesh has been horrible when it comes to dividends for the stockholders (long term investors that is)


Ever wondered why he shows Mumbai Indians as a loss making entity? Its to siphon off money and let the other shareholders foot part of the bill.



There is a lot of siphoning going on in all for corporate India. Mukesh Ambani is the king of them all.

archzine
October 28th, 2011, 07:41 PM
thats just bull crap.

everybody i know on this forum has been shouting about them. Nobody is defending the politicians. I dont care what Ambani's do with their money provided.


the Indian government as usual is too pussy to go after the Ambani brothers. But a fact remains a fact that indian corporates dont pay their taxes in full.

and actually the word "scam" does not simply mean politicians. Technically Maruti Suzuki was one big scam with Sanjay Gandhi and Suzuki. As was Dhirubhai Ambani "importing" "exporting" in the earlier part of his career.


Lets face it dude, its not as if corporate India is paying its' due's to government or the people.


You also talk about the stock rises etc. Mukesh has been horrible when it comes to dividends for the stockholders (long term investors that is)


Ever wondered why he shows Mumbai Indians as a loss making entity? Its to siphon off money and let the other shareholders foot part of the bill.



There is a lot of siphoning going on in all for corporate India. Mukesh Ambani is the king of them all.


Agree with your signature.. Finally its our responsibility right..

murlee
October 30th, 2011, 02:04 AM
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/attachments/shifting-gears/833250d1319721737-official-joke-thread-296884_206927722711402_180173012053540_470838_1802337524_n.jpg

azzi282
October 30th, 2011, 01:47 PM
^^ lol

dunefreezer
October 30th, 2011, 06:10 PM
Wow....Thats clever!! What pisses me off is that, this building is empty!

Cov Boy
October 31st, 2011, 12:05 AM
Could be given to the homeless &/or people living in the slums since the Ambani's haven't moved in 100% hehe.

Or he could sell it to the highest bidder (his younger brother ha ha) & reap his investment back, build another tower elsewhere the silly man.

archzine
November 1st, 2011, 02:56 PM
Could be given to the homeless &/or people living in the slums since the Ambani's haven't moved in 100% hehe.

Or he could sell it to the highest bidder (his younger brother ha ha) & reap his investment back, build another tower elsewhere the silly man.

Yes the give the homeless the ultimate lifestyle! they will get culture shock and set up a shack in one corner of the car park and settle..

dunefreezer
November 1st, 2011, 05:30 PM
^^ lol...I agree

KuwarOnline
November 1st, 2011, 09:11 PM
Yes the give the homeless the ultimate lifestyle! they will get culture shock and set up a shack in one corner of the car park and settle..

:rofl:

gentem
April 11th, 2012, 05:03 AM
Maharashtra government to probe Mukesh Ambani home extension (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Maharashtra-government-to-probe-Mukesh-Ambani-home-extension/articleshow/12615807.cms)
Sharad Vyas, TNN | Apr 11, 2012, 01.19AM IST

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/thumb/msid-12615815,width-600,resizemode-4/Antilia.jpg

MUMBAI: The Maharashtra government on Tuesday ordered a probe by an officer of the rank of a secretary into an alleged unauthorized construction carried out on a footpath as part of the extension of Mukesh Ambani's 27-storey home, Antilia.

The probe will also look into allegations of 'generosity' shown by the civic body while legalizing work adjoining the billion-dollar structure ''at the cost of public convenience''. But senior civic officials said the controversy was being blown out of proportion and was in fact resolved at a meeting between BMC commissioner Subodh Kumar and Ambani late last year.

The probe was ordered by state urban development minister Bhaskar Jadhav after allegations in the legislative assembly that the state government was trying to shield Ambani and shrugging off its responsibility. Without committing on a time-frame, Jadhav said: "If investigations prove that illegal work did take place on the setback plot, we will take action and remove the contentious portions."

The Ambani group had in May 2010 handed over 309.31 sq m of road setback to the corporation in lieu of additional floor space index (FSI), which it consumed in due course. The setback was sought to widen the 18.30m-wide Altamount Road. But in the absence of a setback at an adjoining Bank of India building and the presence of large trees on the land, the corporation did not proceed with the widening. In the meantime, Antilia carried out 'illegal' beautification on the setback, including laying out a lawn, constructing a bund wall, a staircase and a security cabin. On receiving a complaint, the civic body served a notice under section 314 of the BMC Act on December 14, 2010.

At a meeting between Ambani and Kumar, it was decided that since the BMC could not put the area to good use, it be handed over to Antilia Commercial Pvt Ltd for beautification on the condition that the civic body could cancel the allotment ''on its discretion''. But doubts were raised at corporation meetings over the allotment which was made despite there being no policy for handing over setback land back to the owner. "Doubts were raised even by senior civic officials, including statutory committee members. The state government must clarify how the setback was allotted to Ambani and unauthorized work legalized conveniently," said Eknath Khadse, leader of the opposition in the assembly.

On being served a notice, the Antilia management clarified that it had constructed a security wall to prevent public car parking in front of two gates of the building, and the grass was planted as a minor beautification measure. It was decided at the Ambani-Kumar meeting that the civic body would levy Rs 2.82 lakh as 'pay and park charges' and another 1.7 lakh as rent every year. "What is the harm if we get Rs 5 lakh every year for land which is of no use to us in the near future? Once we get the remaining setback on this road, the land will be taken back and put to use," said a senior civic official.

The Ambani residence was earlier in the news over allegations that it was constructed on Waqf board land reserved for the poor.
Most super rich around the world have mansions, but this building stands out. Living in a high rise and still not sharing space with others, 10+ floor living even bill gates doesnt have :cheers: Even a hilltop mansion wouldnt give this good view and wind. Hope this trend will catch up around the world..

sadhaklal
April 11th, 2012, 06:16 PM
^^ Why do you hope so? Bill Gates (and others billionaires like Warren Buffet, Azim Premji, etc.) are more responsible with their money and realise the pointlessness of spending $1 billion on a house. I support Gates , Premji and Buffet and hope this trend DOES NOT catch up.

P.S. You are right. This building does stand out (for its ugly external appearance).

TutConr
April 11th, 2012, 06:59 PM
^^ Why do you hope so? Bill Gates (and others billionaires like Warren Buffet, Azim Premji, etc.) are more responsible with their money and realise the pointlessness of spending $1 billion on a house. I support Gates , Premji and Buffet and hope this trend DOES NOT catch up.

P.S. You are right. This building does stand out (for its ugly external appearance).

I agree. You do not need a $1 billion home. IMO, if Mukesh Ambani is equally giving his wealth and improving conditions of the poor, its alright. But I am not sure he is. This building has become pretty dusty, and it looks ugly because of that.

sadhaklal
April 11th, 2012, 07:44 PM
^^ Be careful. Some people will point knives at your throat for saying Ambani should spend a portion of his money on the poor. Ambani himself has said that he does not see the point in giving to the poor because it will make them lazy and less willing to solve their own problems. Here is my position on this issue:

Rich people should not "give money to the poor". But I feel that rich people in poor countries have a duty to help poor people come out of poverty. In particular, education and jobs are what help poor people come out of poverty. Ambani has already done a huge amount for the poor by creating jobs in this country. But this was done with a pure profit motive and it would be nice if he could also spend a bit on stuff like poor children's education. Spending a small part of your wealth on poor children's education won't make them lazy, Mr. Ambani. So don't give money away to the poor but educate them. As goes the famous proverb: "Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man how to fish and he eats for a lifetime." There are 80,000 schools in India which don't have a single black board. 60% of schools in India don't have electricity. Why just Ambani? We all can do our bit to solve India's education crisis...

gentem
April 12th, 2012, 06:04 AM
^^ There are around 50 people in the world who can spend 1 billion on home. 50 antilia's around the world is very much acceptable. foot print of high rise is less so this kind of home is better than a mansion :cheers:

govt is there to help poor and educate them etc. businessmen should mind their business and create wealth, steve jobs hardly did any charity but created lots of jobs that too only for sake of his profit.

KuwarOnline
April 12th, 2012, 08:10 AM
^^ There are around 50 people in the world who can spend 1 billion on home. 50 antilia's around the world is very much acceptable. foot print of high rise is less so this kind of home is better than a mansion :cheers:

govt is there to help poor and educate them etc. businessmen should mind their business and create wealth, steve jobs hardly did any charity but created lots of jobs that too only for sake of his profit.

+11111111111111

Student4life
April 12th, 2012, 01:04 PM
^^ There are around 50 people in the world who can spend 1 billion on home. 50 antilia's around the world is very much acceptable. foot print of high rise is less so this kind of home is better than a mansion :cheers:

govt is there to help poor and educate them etc. businessmen should mind their business and create wealth, steve jobs hardly did any charity but created lots of jobs that too only for sake of his profit.

I totally disagree . We have a responsibility towards the community in which we live and when we have more than we need , we should do what we can for the poor . I'm not even saying it was wrong to build Antilia . (that's his wish)
But I think that we citizens need to do our bit if we want India to develop. Education and healthcare are the state's priority but that doesn't mean citizens shouldn't do anything . I mean, look at Shiv Nadar and his schools for the bright but poor kids !

bombayism
April 12th, 2012, 01:47 PM
Sadly Ambani's home atleast on the exterior will soon earn the dubious distinction of probably the most ugly mansion ever..unless he does a complete cosmetic makeover..
having said that,ambanis job is not to take care of poverty..he can be a part of rich peoples consortium which supports elimination of poverty in a big way..its the govt's job to take care of poor people..
in india,estimated to have a third of worlds poor,the starving man doesnt care a shit about education or clothes- he needs 2 square meals a day,once that stabilises, he can worry about the next needs of life and thats what precisely the govt needs to provide.But the starving poor man - 300 million of them is also vulnerable and gullible and is a huge votebank..a few crumbs of bread during election time guarantees votes.Not supporting ambani here- but they have done their bit by creating value for shareholders and making jobs.
But seriously,he should take care of his mansion while the govt takes care of the poor - have to wait and see which happens first?

MeMumbaikar
April 12th, 2012, 03:15 PM
maybe ambani need to buy a piece of land

turn it into a public park and help run it.

Master of Disguise
April 12th, 2012, 05:04 PM
Stop fighting guys....

Ambani had a vision while he was finalizing the size & Concept of his mansion....

His son is growing way to fa(s)t and he wanted to make sure that he's comfortable when fully grown.....

end

deekshith
April 12th, 2012, 05:07 PM
Stop fighting guys....

Ambani had a vision while he was finalizing the size & Concept of his mansion....

His son is growing way to fa(s)t and he wanted to make sure that he's comfortable when fully grown.....

end

:lol::lol::lol:

Vicky007
April 12th, 2012, 07:01 PM
Gentem very sensible post.

What Mukesh Ambani does with his wealth is his prerogative. If he wants to build something even more grander then Antilia then he should be able to do it. Why should he be curtailed/constrained from doing so? After all he has earned his wealth and should be able to enjoy it. You only live once. Jub Marega toh saath mein thode hi le jayega?

Our society may have liberalised from the 90's. But by and large the attitude of the society is still the same of the time when Dhirubhai once gave this interview (in the late 80's) and famously said "How can you or the society Prosper/Progress in an environment when you are made to feel guilty if you earn wealth" ?

Mukesh Ambani's job is to create wealth and with it employment opportunities for his countrymen.If in doing so he is able to enjoy his wealth then no one has any right to comment on it or offer moralistic suggestions.

Whether Mukesh Ambani broke any law or circumvented it by building this house is of course a different matter and he should rightfully face the law for it.

Vicky007
April 12th, 2012, 07:07 PM
Another thought comes to my mind.

In a city where buying an ordinary flat is costing crores and many "middle class" families now live in it.Where Filmstars/Sports-stars are living in Bunglow's costing 100-200 Crores, there is going to be an inevitable fetish amongst the very rich industrialists to build such exclusive abodes costing (1000 Crores onwards) to really establish and set right the pecking order.

sadhaklal
April 15th, 2012, 08:00 AM
Our society may have liberalised from the 90's. But by and large the attitude of the society is still the same of the time when Dhirubhai once gave this interview (in the late 80's) and famously said "How can you or the society Prosper/Progress in an environment when you are made to feel guilty if you earn wealth" ?


Most sensible people will agree that wealth creation (through legitimate means) is a great thing. After all, how do you spread wealth unless you create it first? There are many billionaires such as Gates, Buffet, Premji,etc.who have given away billions to charity (Unfortunately,these get less attention in media than Ambani's house gets). These need not be to "take care of the poor". For example, a lot of Gates' money is used to fund scientific research projects.

Creating jobs and value for shareholders is fantastic. But rich/upper middle class people should probably go beyond that and try to spend at least a small portion of their accumulated wealth on addressing some of the problems facing the world. After all, money is power and you can use that power to make the world a better place. Alternatively, you can build a 27 storey house for 3 people.

Mohit_King
April 15th, 2012, 08:38 AM
Gentem very sensible post.

What Mukesh Ambani does with his wealth is his prerogative. If he wants to build something even more grander then Antilia then he should be able to do it. Why should he be curtailed/constrained from doing so? After all he has earned his wealth and should be able to enjoy it. You only live once. Jub Marega toh saath mein thode hi le jayega?

Our society may have liberalised from the 90's. But by and large the attitude of the society is still the same of the time when Dhirubhai once gave this interview (in the late 80's) and famously said "How can you or the society Prosper/Progress in an environment when you are made to feel guilty if you earn wealth" ?

Mukesh Ambani's job is to create wealth and with it employment opportunities for his countrymen.If in doing so he is able to enjoy his wealth then no one has any right to comment on it or offer moralistic suggestions.

Whether Mukesh Ambani broke any law or circumvented it by building this house is of course a different matter and he should rightfully face the law for it.

+1...totally agree with u yaar....its his money and let him do anything with ....who r we to tell anything abt it.....

gentem
April 16th, 2012, 06:23 AM
Most sensible people will agree that wealth creation (through legitimate means) is a great thing. After all, how do you spread wealth unless you create it first? There are many billionaires such as Gates, Buffet, Premji,etc.who have given away billions to charity (Unfortunately,these get less attention in media than Ambani's house gets). These need not be to "take care of the poor". For example, a lot of Gates' money is used to fund scientific research projects.

Creating jobs and value for shareholders is fantastic. But rich/upper middle class people should probably go beyond that and try to spend at least a small portion of their accumulated wealth on addressing some of the problems facing the world. After all, money is power and you can use that power to make the world a better place. Alternatively, you can build a 27 storey house for 3 people.
Not a small portion, but ambani pays good 30% income tax to the govt :bash: and companies he holds stocks pays 30% MAT to govt. he better concentrate his mind on creating wealth than thinking about poor people. iphone made the world a much better place than bill gate's billions did.

and tall Antilia will inspire thousands of entrepreneurs in india to create wealth :cheers:

KuwarOnline
April 16th, 2012, 07:34 AM
Gentem very sensible post.


Our society may have liberalised from the 90's. But by and large the attitude of the society is still the same of the time when Dhirubhai once gave this interview (in the late 80's) and famously said "How can you or the society Prosper/Progress in an environment when you are made to feel guilty if you earn wealth" ?


Damn true.... sometimes I feel wtf.... :nuts:

jaadu
April 16th, 2012, 08:19 AM
iphone made the world a much better place than bill gate's billions did.


I agree that we should promote more entrepreneurship but why this ignorant comment ? You have no idea about what type of work Bill and melinda gates foundation does , you heard about Polio eradication in India ? almost 20% of all money spent on immunization in India was given by them , they spend 200 million dollars a year in Malaria prevention which probably saves thousands of lives. Go to any decent university and you will see health related projects/research being funded by them. Heck even Nobel laureates labs get funding from them. Don't trivialize something great to justify some other truth.

Sorry for OT !!

Chrisel
April 16th, 2012, 06:04 PM
^^

+1. Thank you.

Perhaps gentem would like to clarify whether it was the Foxconn worker suicides or the sweat shops used to make the iPhone that made the world a better place.
What an idiotic comment. Arrogance knows no bounds these days.

HedonistAtBlr
April 16th, 2012, 06:08 PM
I agree that we should promote more entrepreneurship but why this ignorant comment ? You have no idea about what type of work Bill and melinda gates foundation does , you heard about Polio eradication in India ? almost 20% of all money spent on immunization in India was given by them , they spend 200 million dollars a year in Malaria prevention which probably saves thousands of lives. Go to any decent university and you will see health related projects/research being funded by them. Heck even Nobel laureates labs get funding from them. Don't trivialize something great to justify some other truth.

Sorry for OT !!

Reason! It exists! :applause:

gentem
April 18th, 2012, 06:35 AM
I agree that we should promote more entrepreneurship but why this ignorant comment ? You have no idea about what type of work Bill and melinda gates foundation does , you heard about Polio eradication in India ? almost 20% of all money spent on immunization in India was given by them , they spend 200 million dollars a year in Malaria prevention which probably saves thousands of lives. Go to any decent university and you will see health related projects/research being funded by them. Heck even Nobel laureates labs get funding from them. Don't trivialize something great to justify some other truth.

Sorry for OT !!

see the broad vision. iphone not just created jobs and profits and $80B revenue per year, but increased productivity of users. it inspired most of today's touch screen phones including android, even you might be using one. hardly any ignorance/arrogance here.

sadhaklal
April 18th, 2012, 06:16 PM
^^ This is not to discount any of Steve Jobs or Apple's achievements but the world's first smart phone was invented by IBM. This was the IBM Simon released in 1993. Wikipedia: "Besides being a mobile phone, it also contained a calendar, address book, world clock, calculator, note pad, e-mail client, the ability to send and receive faxes, and games. It had no physical buttons, instead customers used a touchscreen to select telephone numbers with a finger or create faxes and memos with an optional stylus. Text was entered with a unique on-screen "predictive" keyboard."

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0c/IBM_SImon_in_charging_station.png/180px-IBM_SImon_in_charging_station.png

Cellular technology was invented by Motorola.

The world's first camera phone was released by Samsung.

The concept of downloadable apps has been around for ages.

So none of these technologies were invented by Apple. Apple took the existing technologies and put it together in a beautiful package with intuitive software. And kudos to it for doing that. But please don't conclude that workers productivity would not have increased without iPhones or Androids...

And no, iPhone has not and will not have have greater impact than the Gates Foundation.

pkalein
April 18th, 2012, 06:39 PM
^^

if you are talking about tech then everything is pirated first GUI was developed by XEROX but used by apple DOS wasn't the invention of Microsoft. Smartphones became popular after iphone but just google for palm then you will get the answer so its not like that

Student4life
April 18th, 2012, 07:42 PM
But rich/upper middle class people should probably go beyond that and try to spend at least a small portion of their accumulated wealth on addressing some of the problems facing the world. After all, money is power and you can use that power to make the world a better place.

:applause:

Swapbeck
April 22nd, 2012, 06:36 PM
Antilia :ohno:
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u380/swapbeck/altamount_600x450.jpg

Cov Boy
April 25th, 2012, 12:13 PM
(Let's get back to the topic!)

Wow! What a stunning picture.

I still like Antilia being different & unique.

The plants just need to mature on the exterior.

dunefreezer
April 25th, 2012, 04:16 PM
Yeah, even when it doesn't have complete glass facade, it definitely looks modern and will for sure blend in when Mumbai becomes a modern city.

Yagya
May 19th, 2012, 02:34 AM
http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/227351/slide_227351_994792_free.jpg

http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/227351/slide_227351_994793_free.jpg

Yagya
May 19th, 2012, 02:35 AM
:drool: Look at the view in the second picture!

kalkibhagwan
May 19th, 2012, 03:48 AM
http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/227351/slide_227351_994792_free.jpg

http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/227351/slide_227351_994793_free.jpg

Apparently the planning is not good :ohno: look there are plants growing on the ceiling!!! (that too in opposite direction)

koolicon
May 19th, 2012, 06:31 AM
http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/227351/slide_227351_994792_free.jpg

http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/227351/slide_227351_994793_free.jpg


F%*king stunning! Lets give where credit is due, a nice modern Indian house (atleast from the inside) :cheers:

hardiksr
May 19th, 2012, 12:28 PM
Did you know India hasnt built a single monument after independence. !!! Ambanis spent a millions of dollars to make his home which the world media is talking about. I have seen foreigners coming and clicking pictures next to the gate. Take it as a monument and take pride. It's not a crime to be rich in India.

KuwarOnline
May 19th, 2012, 01:23 PM
Did you know India hasnt built a single monument after independence. !!! Ambanis spent a millions of dollars to make his home which the world media is talking about. I have seen foreigners coming and clicking pictures next to the gate. Take it as a monument and take pride. It's not a crime to be rich in India.

+11111 nicely said bro.... :)

Yagya
May 19th, 2012, 07:54 PM
Did you know India hasnt built a single monument after independence. !!!

I'm sorry but what? which India have you been living in?

kalkibhagwan
May 19th, 2012, 10:48 PM
Did you know India hasnt built a single monument after independence. !!! Ambanis spent a millions of dollars to make his home which the world media is talking about. I have seen foreigners coming and clicking pictures next to the gate. Take it as a monument and take pride. It's not a crime to be rich in India.

This rant isn't required :)

OldKool
May 20th, 2012, 03:57 AM
]Did you know[/B] India hasnt built a single monument after independence. !!! Ambanis spent a millions of dollars to make his home which the world media is talking about. I have seen foreigners coming and clicking pictures next to the gate. Take it as a monument and take pride. It's not a crime to be rich in India.

you don't know

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ef/Ambedkar_Park_Night_View.jpg

http://www.hellotravel.com/sites/default/files/akshardham.jpg

Cov Boy
May 20th, 2012, 01:10 PM
Please quote the source of the newspaper/magazine cutting above & also give the web link if you can. I would like to read more of the interview with Nita Ambani please.

The interiors are beautiful & I like the Indian touches to the interior.

mihir1310
May 20th, 2012, 05:30 PM
This interview by Nita Ambani should shut the Ambani haters for ever.

hardiksr
May 20th, 2012, 08:06 PM
People in India call a temple a monument. !!! I didn't know that !!! I live in India where India Gate, Gate way of India, Taj Mahal are monuments. Temples are not monuments. I knew people would remind me of Akshardham when I made that statement.

bhargavsura
May 20th, 2012, 08:21 PM
People in India call a temple a monument. !!! I didn't know that !!! I live in India where India Gate, Gate way of India, Taj Mahal are monuments. Temples are not monuments. I knew people would remind me of Akshardham when I made that statement.

What is your definition of monument?

Yagya
May 20th, 2012, 09:35 PM
Please quote the source of the newspaper/magazine cutting above & also give the web link if you can. I would like to read more of the interview with Nita Ambani please.

The interiors are beautiful & I like the Indian touches to the interior.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/18/antilia-inside-mukesh-expensive-home-mumbai_n_1527703.html

Illusionist
May 20th, 2012, 10:20 PM
Still not enough pictures of the "Only" monument of India. there needs to be a discovery channel documentary about this.

Cov Boy
May 20th, 2012, 10:58 PM
Thanks Yagya!

dunefreezer
May 21st, 2012, 04:51 PM
People in India call a temple a monument. !!! I didn't know that !!! I live in India where India Gate, Gate way of India, Taj Mahal are monuments. Temples are not monuments. I knew people would remind me of Akshardham when I made that statement.

Akshardham isn't just any temple. you seriously think all the temples in India look like Akshardham? Akshardham is just massive, elegant, intricate. Lotus temple is modern so it can't be compared to Akshardham. Akshardham is just pure Indian.

BTW, the interiors of Antilia is more gorgeous than the exterior. great! for the Ambanis.

hardiksr
May 21st, 2012, 09:29 PM
All I say is Ambani put Indians on global map. It's no more a land of bloody Indians and snake charmers !!! And it's his money after all.

psychedelic
May 22nd, 2012, 06:28 AM
I totally agree with people who say that residence Antilla is a "monument" to cherish, it shall stand as an outstanding example of how money can't buy you taste for many generations to come.

psychedelic
May 22nd, 2012, 06:36 AM
http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/227351/slide_227351_994792_free.jpg



Wow, she's such a charitable soul, I'm truly and deeply touched. *sniff* *sniff*