Ramakrishna said if the proposal was implemented, a Vinayaka temple on Cenotaph Road too will be destroyed, hurting the sentiments of devotees.
Sources:TOI
I don't know what others think but i feel the temple should not be demolished.Will they demolish a mosque,church or a politician house.In kathipara flyover except le meridian all the corners are demolished.

I dont think in TN any such stupid sentiment exists.. I say this because I remember the Temple near Saidapet bus terminus on Anna salai removed/moved from the place and no major problems or agitations came up. I think the person who wrote this article in TOI pushes his own sentiments by quoting that to be people's sentiments..

I dont think in TN any such stupid sentiment exists.. I say this because I remember the Temple near Saidapet bus terminus on Anna salai removed/moved from the place and no major problems or agitations came up. I think the person who wrote this article in TOI pushes his own sentiments by quoting that to be people's sentiments..

It differs from place to place. They faced aproblem with a temple while building the Chromepet railway crossing flyover. Finally, the temple was not demolished. One of the flyover scrapes above the temple. Only the temple dome was slightly demolished to construct the flyover.

Cum on dude, you are starting a communal debate here....

Churches and Mosques are never on unauthorized lands...

You'll never find them inbetween roads, on roads, under trees...etc

Besides, if its an old temple, I feel some arrangement should be made not to demolish it.

I believe every unauthorized building should be demolished, be it a Church, Mosque, Temple or a politicians house:lol:...

Especially the politicians' houses.

Cum on dude, you are starting a communal debate here....

Churches and Mosques are never on unauthorized lands...

You'll never find them in between roads, on roads, under trees...etc

Besides, if its an old temple, I feel some arrangement should be made not to demolish it.

I believe every unauthorized building should be demolished, be it a Church, Mosque, Temple or a politicians house:lol:...

I have seen temples which start out with a small idol and then later on becoming bigger and bigger and finally become a full fledged temple. That too on road side... I have also seen instances where people put up a small idol / temple in front of their encroached properties, so that the Corporation / Authorities are hesitant while demolishing...

Such temples are only put up by individuals or a group of people with vested interests and certainly not because of their public interest. Such encroachments should be removed. Its not that i am against temples or anything. In fact i do visit temples regularly. However, what i don't like is temples being used by certain individuals to further their vested interests.

That kind of culture should change and the Govt. should come out with a law against erecting temples at all kinds of places. Erecting such temples at all kinds of places not only decreases the sanctity of the temples, but also create a problem for the public in terms of congested roads etc.

^^
Yes I agree...

Besides, if any such temples/churches/mosques do exist on the road, people should give the land to the Govt* for the betterment of the society and public...... And the Govt should offer good compensation packages to the affected and not poiliticize the issue...

*Not applicable if these structures are ancient monuments...etc... And also the lands must be actually owned by people/group... It shouldnt be an encroached property...

I have seen temples which start out with a small idol and then later on becoming bigger and bigger and finally become a full fledged temple. That too on road side... I have also seen instances where people put up a small idol / temple in front of their encroached properties, so that the Corporation / Authorities are hesitant while demolishing...

Such temples are only put up by individuals or a group of people with vested interests and certainly not because of their public interest. Such encroachments should be removed. Its not that i am against temples or anything. In fact i do visit temples regularly. However, what i don't like is temples being used by certain individuals to further their vested interests.

That kind of culture should change and the Govt. should come out with a law against erecting temples at all kinds of places. Erecting such temples at all kinds of places not only decreases the sanctity of the temples, but also create a problem for the public in terms of congested roads etc.

There are sufficient laws to prevent these kind of encroachments. But who follows them? And who in authority bothers them? People who do this kind of illegal things think that Law is just after God.. No law will prevent illegal activities unless the attitude of people changes..
I am currently on a visit to Bulgaria, the poorest EU country. They dont have good roads, always traffic jams (as bad as CHN/BLR), no traffic cameras, but still they obey traffic rules.. They get frustated with traffic jams but still they wait untill pedestrians cross the road, they dont jump at the signal, and the best is they dont Honk.. This is because of their European attitude as opposed to our Indian attitude...

no, no, what they mean is no accidents because of construction - general public or construction employees.

Does this incident answer your statement?...:ohno:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Earthmover_kills_engineer_at_Kathipara/articleshow/3454088.cms

Earthmover kills engineer at Kathipara

CHENNAI: A 27-year-old engineer died after he was hit by an earth mover while working at the construction site of a grade separator at Kathipara Junc
tion in Guindy. He was rushed to a private hospital but was declared dead on arrival.

The police identified the deceased as Pankaj Dharan Rao, a native of Maharashtra.

On Friday night, Rao was giving instructions to the workers when he was hit by the equipment. The driver of the vehicle, who did not know that Rao was standing near the vehicle, turned the earthmover and hit him. In the impact, Rao fell down and sustained severe injuries.

The site officials took him to a nearby hospital, where the doctors declared him dead on arrival. His body was later sent to the Government General Hospital in Chromepet for postmortem.

Upon learning about the accident, the police rushed to the place and interrogated the employees. Meanwhile, sensing danger, the driver of the vehicle fled from the site.

Tambaram Grand South Trunk Road traffic investigation police have registered a case and have launched a manhunt for the driver who went absconding. The police have informed Rao’s family members in Maharastra about his tragic death.

Here's a good pic of kathipara(might be old though)

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/5899/14496231ex1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

^^Nice! May be about 2 months old...

so is the Airport flyover opened ?

so is the Airport flyover opened ?

Yep, Airport Flyover opened by CM.

http://www.dinamalar.com/Arasiyalnewsdetail.asp?News_id=4344&cls=row3&ncat=TN

Tindivanam By pass in 4 days.

Kathipara on 28th, If CM time permits.

MKN bridge in 25 days.

TAMBARAM: The Rs.98-crore flyover built by the National Highways Authority of India (NHAI) near the Chennai airport to ease congestion in one of the most important traffic hotspots on Grand Southern Trunk Road was thrown open for traffic soon after Chief Minister M. Karunanidhi dedicated it on Sunday evening.

Work on this flyover, bundled as a single package along with the grade separators at Kathipara and Padi, began in February 2005 after Mr. Karunanidhi took part in a foundation stone-laying ceremony. Expected to be completed in about 18 months, it suffered a delay due to certain issues over land acquisition, an NHAI official told the media after the function. Of the Rs. 98 crore, the cost of civil works is Rs. 43 crore, while land acquisition alone has cost NHAI Rs. 47.65 crore. The 1.6-km-long flyover has 27 bridge spans and is 11-metre wide enabling three-lane traffic. Only vehicles going from Tambaram to Chennai could take the flyover. Vehicles from Tambaram to the airport would be allowed in the service lane on the left side and those heading to the airport from the city would take a right turn near the entry to the domestic terminal below the flyover. Vehicles from the airport to Tambaram would have to take the existing exit route from the international terminal, a note issued by NHAI said.

Speaking on the occasion, Mr. Karunanidhi said the flyover was an example of the various development projects being implemented in the State with support from the United Progressive Alliance government.

Union Minister for Shipping, Road Transport and Highways, T.R.Baalu said the Kathipara Grade Separator would be completed in week and opened for traffic on all sections. (A portion of it towards Inner Ring Road and GST Road is operational now.). Such flyovers and bridges were possible due to the massive thrust given by the UPA government in the Eleventh Five year Plan.

Union Minister of State for Statistics and Programme Implementation, G.K.Vasan, TNCC president K.V.Thangkabalu and Labour Welfare Minister T.M.Anbarasan spoke on the occasion.

http://www.hindu.com/2008/10/20/stories/2008102050030100.htm

^^

http://www.hindu.com/2008/10/20/images/2008102057190101.jpg
The flyover near the Chennai airport that was opened on Sunday.

:cheers::cheers::cheers:

Is the vehicles bound for Guindy takes the flyover?

The sign board installed in Tambaram end denotes that vehciles proceeding for Vehicle should take the flyover and the vehicles bound for Airport from Tambaram side should take left of the flyover from Tambaram to Guindy side.

So the road's(roughly 4 to 4.5 lane) used by entire traffic will be used only by the down side(from city to AP/Tambaram) traffic right from flyover starting to end????

It looks like with this Flyover they have handled the Airport Entry without any traffic lights and not obstructing the straight traffic on the GST Road.

But I don't understand what is the plan for Airport Exit (both to Tambaram and Guidy)????

Any ideas?

BTW, I have a self drawn diagram explaining this problem, but have no idea how to insert a picture that is not a link. :?

^^

BTW, I have a self drawn diagram explaining this problem, but have no idea how to insert a picture that is not a link. :?

Please register yourself in www.imageshack.us and upload the image on to your page in that Website using the "Upload Image" option available there. Now you can rightclick on the uploaded image in Imageshack and copy the path and insert it in this thread within "[IMG]" "[\IMG]" tags to view the image in your post. The path of your uploaded image will be something like this: "http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/..."

Hope this helps.:cheers:

^^


Please register yourself in www.imageshack.us (http://www.imageshack.us) and upload the image on to your page in that Website using the "Upload Image" option available there. Now you can rightclick on the uploaded image in Imageshack and copy the path and insert it in this thread within "[IMG]" "[\IMG]" tags to view the image in your post. The path of your uploaded image will be something like this: "http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/..."

Hope this helps.:cheers:

Thanks Rasnaboy. :)
So here is my lame attempt at drawing.

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/8172/chennaiairportzp9.png

So what's the solution for Exit from Airport?
How will the vehicles exit towards Guindy?
And wouldn't the vehicles exiting towards Tambaram disrupt the traffic entering Airport from Tambaram?
OR Am I missing something here????

The existing airport exit joins the level road towards guindy....the vehicles coming from the airport take the rightmost lane and then take the u-turn near the airport entrance towards tambaram

The existing airport exit joins the level road towards guindy....the vehicles coming from the airport take the rightmost lane and then take the u-turn near the airport entrance towards tambaram

Thanks Indian Sun....that explains the exit from Airport towards tambaram.
But how are they going to handle exit towards Guindy?
If they allow traffic to go straight on the left of the flyover, wouldn't that disrupt the Traffic entering Airport from Guindy!!!!
I feel that they should have built a ramp from Airport Exit to the flyover...:bash:

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/3773/chennaiairportvb7.png

Source: Times of India Chennai Edition, 20/10/2008

http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Repository/getimage.dll?path=TOICH/2008/10/20/2/Img/Pc0021000.jpg

http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/8522/rrdc7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/8522/rrdc7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Did they open the flyover to start work on Service Road? If that's the case then it makes sense.

Any new pictures?

^^ Whats it say?

Please posts information regarding Kathipara flyover, Padi flyover etc in this thread. A lot has been said about these in the Project update, I wish someone would do a compilation of all that valuable info and cross post them here for easier reading. I myself am too lazy for it now lol

Airport flyover completed on sunday. kathipara flyover will be completed on 31st october.

Kathipara flyover looks really good.


we have one more flyover which is not being noticed at all - this is coming up near the vivek showroon in bog road tnagar opp joy alukkas. this flyover will be completed march next year.

Maduravoyal - in another 3 months - we could see the main pillar for sure.
Tnager - a new flyover is coming up near the vivek showroon opposite joy aluukas this will connect tnagar with kodambakkam.
airport flyover is completed its operational
kathipara flyover will be completed on october 31st 2008

^^ whats that new tnagar flyover? mistaken for the rangarajapuram subway?

^^ whats that new tnagar flyover? mistaken for the rangarajapuram subway?

This is the one under construction at G N Chetty Road/ Tirumalai Pillai Road Intersection.

This is the one under construction at G N Chetty Road/ Tirumalai Pillai Road Intersection.

no, he is talking about another one opposite gold tower. i thought this was going to be an underpass beneath the railway line.

http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Repository/getimage.dll?path=TOICH/2008/10/23/6/Img/Pc0061500.jpg

New flyover forces airport staffers to trek

TIMES NEWS NETWORK

Chennai: The new flyover before the airport may have helped clear the traffic snarls along the Grand Southern Trunk (GST) Road, but it has certainly inconvenienced hundreds of airport employees who use public transport.
Several of the Airports Authority of India (AAI) staff depend on MTC buses to commute. However, the new flyover has made it difficult for them to access bus services.
“The flyover has pushed the bus stops farther on either end of the GST Road. Hence, we are forced to walk long distances along the main road to board buses. People coming from Guindy have to trek long distances while returning home because the approach road of the flyover is now longer,” said Vijayaragini, an employee with a private airline.
Traffic from Tambaram is allowed to proceed along the one-way flyover, while the vehicles from Guindy pass along the main road which has become narrow, thanks to the flyover.
“The buses should not be allowed to proceed on the flyover, instead should come
along the service lanes to pick up passengers. The MTC and the AAI should also think allowing buses inside the airport,” she added.
Earlier, the bus stop was located close to airport entrance. Now, several employees, especially women, are forced to walk half-a-kilometre from the airport.
Employees working in shifts are the worst hit. “Our duty gets over at 10 or 11 pm. And we have to walk towards the end of the flyover to board bus. It is risky to walk in the night,” said an employee.

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From Times!

Now what is the solution??

^^I guess the plan itself is a bit bizarre giving rise to several new questions...

Saw a road roller sinking in mud while laying the road at the kathipara interchange. Things dont look good there.

I seriously doubt a full grand opening with proper roads and completed civil works

http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Repository/getimage.dll?path=TOICH/2008/10/23/6/Img/Pc0061500.jpg

New flyover forces airport staffers to trek

TIMES NEWS NETWORK

Chennai: The new flyover before the airport may have helped clear the traffic snarls along the Grand Southern Trunk (GST) Road, but it has certainly inconvenienced hundreds of airport employees who use public transport.
Several of the Airports Authority of India (AAI) staff depend on MTC buses to commute. However, the new flyover has made it difficult for them to access bus services.
“The flyover has pushed the bus stops farther on either end of the GST Road. Hence, we are forced to walk long distances along the main road to board buses. People coming from Guindy have to trek long distances while returning home because the approach road of the flyover is now longer,” said Vijayaragini, an employee with a private airline.
Traffic from Tambaram is allowed to proceed along the one-way flyover, while the vehicles from Guindy pass along the main road which has become narrow, thanks to the flyover.
“The buses should not be allowed to proceed on the flyover, instead should come
along the service lanes to pick up passengers. The MTC and the AAI should also think allowing buses inside the airport,” she added.
Earlier, the bus stop was located close to airport entrance. Now, several employees, especially women, are forced to walk half-a-kilometre from the airport.
Employees working in shifts are the worst hit. “Our duty gets over at 10 or 11 pm. And we have to walk towards the end of the flyover to board bus. It is risky to walk in the night,” said an employee.

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From Times!

Now what is the solution??

They have a solution already... they've invited tenders for building bus bay and stops on the flyover and below the flover.. both will be connected with escalators and elevators..but then tat'll take atleast a year to come.. but till then they can atleast allow MTC buses to go into the airport like they do in Central Station.

I think there are problems with the cloverleaf model itself but a lot more can be added if it is poorly implemented. Cloverleafs necessarily have weaving, but if the size of the cloverleaf itself is large and the loops spaced apart, and if the volume of traffic in the loops is relatively less, then the cloverleaf would suffice.

In Kathipara's case the flow of high volume traffic is a bit different. There is high volume of traffic on the Airport to Anna Salai sector and by the present u/c flover it has to use the loop after havbing to 'weave' across the traffic from Anna Salai to IRR which is the problem area.

For example here is an idea of how the cloverleafs are being handled in the US & UK..



more..



What bothers me is how can the planners living in the 21st century fail to take note of all these problems that other countries have gone through for decades completely ignore all these and come up with a design that is outdated and unsafe ??

-Its late response;
from current loaded pic what i see was, merging and exiting from annasalai and porur will not have the issue since the direction at which exit and entry are made.. please look carefuly at the picture you can very well see that exit would be before merging trafic. On the other hand, from IRR or from GST the lane is little longer to merge and exit. also note that the lane is not EXIT ONLY. most of the issues comes only when its exit only because they has to shift lane. one more note Still in india you will not be travelling as fast as in other developed contries.

Thanks Indian Sun....that explains the exit from Airport towards tambaram.
But how are they going to handle exit towards Guindy?
If they allow traffic to go straight on the left of the flyover, wouldn't that disrupt the Traffic entering Airport from Guindy!!!!
I feel that they should have built a ramp from Airport Exit to the flyover...:bash:

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/3773/chennaiairportvb7.png

^^
How about, swapping Entry and Exit. ? It will solve the problem, its noting but merge and go. and not to alow traffic in between..

They have a solution already... they've invited tenders for building bus bay and stops on the flyover and below the flover.. both will be connected with escalators and elevators..but then tat'll take atleast a year to come.. but till then they can atleast allow MTC buses to go into the airport like they do in Central Station.

Simple Solution: pickup and drop by AAI Buses/Tempo. for every 5 or 10 mins. let it be paid service for others and free for AAI employees.

Man...why dont people want to walk? And I seriously hate when news is report saying..especially women as though women are all weaklings and need to be carried around. If they can walk miles in Tnagar to shop they can definitely walk to work...Come on atleast they can stay fit by doing so:ohno:

http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Repository/getimage.dll?path=TOICH/2008/10/23/6/Img/Pc0061500.jpg

New flyover forces airport staffers to trek

TIMES NEWS NETWORK

Chennai: The new flyover before the airport may have helped clear the traffic snarls along the Grand Southern Trunk (GST) Road, but it has certainly inconvenienced hundreds of airport employees who use public transport.
Several of the Airports Authority of India (AAI) staff depend on MTC buses to commute. However, the new flyover has made it difficult for them to access bus services.
“The flyover has pushed the bus stops farther on either end of the GST Road. Hence, we are forced to walk long distances along the main road to board buses. People coming from Guindy have to trek long distances while returning home because the approach road of the flyover is now longer,” said Vijayaragini, an employee with a private airline.
Traffic from Tambaram is allowed to proceed along the one-way flyover, while the vehicles from Guindy pass along the main road which has become narrow, thanks to the flyover.
“The buses should not be allowed to proceed on the flyover, instead should come
along the service lanes to pick up passengers. The MTC and the AAI should also think allowing buses inside the airport,” she added.
Earlier, the bus stop was located close to airport entrance. Now, several employees, especially women, are forced to walk half-a-kilometre from the airport.
Employees working in shifts are the worst hit. “Our duty gets over at 10 or 11 pm. And we have to walk towards the end of the flyover to board bus. It is risky to walk in the night,” said an employee.

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From Times!

Now what is the solution??

Man...why dont people want to walk? And I seriously hate when news is report saying..especially women as though women are all weaklings and need to be carried around. If they can walk miles in Tnagar to shop they can definitely walk to work...Come on atleast they can stay fit by doing so:ohno:

Yeah, I wondered about that too - but if you're wearing formal shoes, walking can become a pain. Also, walking on the main road is inherently dangerous, thanks to the reckless nature of our drivers. Finally, at 11 pm, walking for 1 km can be a lot scarier than during the day.

Yeah, I wondered about that too - but if you're wearing formal shoes, walking can become a pain. Also, walking on the main road is inherently dangerous, thanks to the reckless nature of our drivers. Finally, at 11 pm, walking for 1 km can be a lot scarier than during the day.

Walking everyday like that is a pain. Already people are going to be travelling in crowded buses, walking near their houses etc. On top of this, they have to again walk near the airport. It'll be a pain especially in a place like Chennai where after all this walking, you'll reach your workplace drenched in sweat from head to toe.

Plus it is not fair to deprive them of some facility that they've had so far. Any new development should try to make things more easier, not more difficult.

Simple Solution: pickup and drop by AAI Buses/Tempo. for every 5 or 10 mins. let it be paid service for others and free for AAI employees.

Man...why dont people want to walk? And I seriously hate when news is report saying..especially women as though women are all weaklings and need to be carried around. If they can walk miles in Tnagar to shop they can definitely walk to work...Come on atleast they can stay fit by doing so:ohno:

Yeah, I wondered about that too - but if you're wearing formal shoes, walking can become a pain. Also, walking on the main road is inherently dangerous, thanks to the reckless nature of our drivers. Finally, at 11 pm, walking for 1 km can be a lot scarier than during the day.

Walking everyday like that is a pain. Already people are going to be travelling in crowded buses, walking near their houses etc. On top of this, they have to again walk near the airport. It'll be a pain especially in a place like Chennai where after all this walking, you'll reach your workplace drenched in sweat from head to toe.

Plus it is not fair to deprive them of some facility that they've had so far. Any new development should try to make things more easier, not more difficult.

I agree with Bless. AAI can run free shuttles from the terminals to the bus stops, train station (or the subway entrance to train station) and parking lots. This way, they don't have to increase traffic inside the airport or inconvenience bus passengers by making all the MTC buses enter the airport unnecessarily. They don't have to charge anyone for this, AAI already charges airport fees for all passengers. They at least need not charge ticketed passengers. They can charge visitors if they absolutely have to. The reduction in traffic inside the airport alone will be worth running this free service.

The Times report is funny. Do MTC buses stop in front of every commercial building schools/colleges in Chennai?
That Lady should be 88. Lazy citizens!

The Times report is funny. Do MTC buses stop in front of every commercial building schools/colleges in Chennai?
That Lady should be 88. Lazy citizens!


You sound funny.. In Mumbai.. metropolitan buses do have bus stop near to departure and arrival terminals why not in chennai.. and moreover frequency is also good and it is used by staff working in mumabi airport.. if someone is suffering you need to provide them facility..

You sound funny.. In Mumbai.. metropolitan buses do have bus stop near to departure and arrival terminals why not in chennai.. and moreover frequency is also good and it is used by staff working in mumabi airport.. if someone is suffering you need to provide them facility..

^^You are right. What about Dissabled rather Differently-abled?

^^You are right. What about Dissabled rather Differently-abled?

For Differently-abled.. the volvo service is there... AC1 and AC2 right inside the airport.. But i think they should increase volvo services from airport and central to different places in chennai..
Normal buses cant be made differntlyabled-friendly as it'll be rush most of the times... good tat volvos are there for them.. comfortable and neither they nor others will be disturbed..

Kewl

I think employees in MAA cannot afford MTC Volvo daily.

Shuttle service from AP to the nearest bus stop is the best option. AAI can do this.. Or MTC should come up with deluxe buses from MAA to various parts of the city(important places like Central, CMBT, T.Nagar, Broadway, Adyar etc., with less frequency).

This will encourage even the passengers to use public transportation from MAA.

Apparently I was wrong regarding the airport exit...the exit is actually parallel to the main entrance: an additional 2 lanes have been opened there.

Kewl

I think employees in MAA cannot afford MTC Volvo daily.

Shuttle service from AP to the nearest bus stop is the best option. AAI can do this.. Or MTC should come up with deluxe buses from MAA to various parts of the city(important places like Central, CMBT, T.Nagar, Broadway, Adyar etc., with less frequency).

This will encourage even the passengers to use public transportation from MAA.

I pointed out volvo services for differntly-abled people:)... others can walk out of the airport... the bus stops are coming up on the flyover as well as below the flyover ... both connected with elevators and escalators.. Thats wat they'll can ask for..

Thanks Rasnaboy. :)
So here is my lame attempt at drawing.

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/8172/chennaiairportzp9.png

So what's the solution for Exit from Airport?
How will the vehicles exit towards Guindy?
And wouldn't the vehicles exiting towards Tambaram disrupt the traffic entering Airport from Tambaram?
OR Am I missing something here????

there is service lane which connects to the GST road from the airport towards to Guindy.

http://www.hindu.com/2008/10/25/images/2008102560670401.jpg
Chennai Corporation will establish a foot overbridge with escalator on Taluk Office Road at Little Mount in Chennai.

CHENNAI: The Chennai Corporation has revived the proposal for the escalator-fitted foot overbridge (FOB) at Little Mount (Taluk Office Road) in the city.

The proposal to establish bridges with escalators in 10 busy locations had not seen progress for some time.

The civic body had intended to identify private developers who would invest in the facilities to be constructed on a design-build-operate-transfer basis.

The Corporation would give them advertising rights on the bridge’s panels and they could then recover the costs.

In view of the Supreme Court direction on regulation of hoardings, the Corporation has now decided to develop the facilities on turnkey basis, which means ‘ready to operate.’

Corporation Commissioner Rajesh Lakhoni said, “As there have been 4-5 fatal accidents at this location, the police had asked us to construct such a facility. We are not looking to make any revenue out of it. We expect the bridge to be completed by March 2009.”

The cost of the facility is estimated at Rs.2.50 crore. As far as Chennai is concerned, this would be a pilot project. Cities including Delhi, Mumbai and Indore have similar facilities.

Source: http://www.hindu.com/2008/10/25/stories/2008102560670400.htm

Kathiparai Flyover inauguration tomorrow.

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A view of the Kathipara Flyover which is to be inaugurated by Tamilnadu Chief Minister M Karunanidhi.
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Sat, 25 Oct, 2008,04:00 PM

Chief Minister M Karunanidhi will inaugurate the much-awaited Kathipara Grade Separator. It may be recalled that the junction used to be a roundabout where the statue of India’s first Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru was installed.
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A cloverleaf grade separator, which comes under Golden Quadrilateral project, is constructed to ease traffic congestion at the junction. The construction, which was started in 2005, is built at an estimated project cost of Rs 486 crore with an initial deadline of March 2007.

The project had suffered delay on account of contractual problems and cost escalation of raw materials. The drawback for the delay were many like land acquisition and heavy traffic.

It is to be noted that the grade separator is built in a traditional manner without using sophisticated construction techniques. Nearly 500 workers were working day and night to complete the project.

The project will be boon to Guindy and surrounding areas and the time taken from Adyar to Meenambakkam will be just 20 minutes.

http://newstodaynet.com/newsindex.php?id=11742%20&%20section=7

Kathiparai Flyover inauguration tomorrow.

i thought that kathipara was to be opened on october 31st..

will they take up the landscaping in the middle of the ramps of the flyover or just abandon it in as is where is condition??? and the roads that lead to and from kathipara( mount poonamalle road and paul wells road) are in their worst conditions. i think that these roads should also be relaid at least till 1 km from the flyover to ease the congestion after coming out of the flyover. and what about the roads in the side of the main carriageway the will be use to take left turns... they are bad too and there is too much water logging on these roads especially in front of tamarai tech park....some proper drainage system and relaying of roads should be done here also. and i cant understand what that underpass like structure is below the guindy - poonamalee section of the road.

I don't know why they are opening this flyover without proper finishing touch ,it seems some political reason behind it for opening in oct itself:bash:

The main carriage way of Kathipara i.e from GST to IRR had some finishing works before inauguration.

Now AP flyover and Kathipara being opened so urgently due to coming elections!!

In that photo Kathipara looks so ugly!!

Kathipara opened today

http://dkn.dinakaran.co.in/26102008/1244618_1.jpg

The above one is an invitation for the opening ceremony of Kathipara flyover.

^^

but there were no indications of this in any of the newspapers.....

Another pic of Kathipara, courtesy, New Indian Express

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/7371/kathilatestkv8.jpg

Oh ok. does anyone know what that underpass like thing is towards the right hand side of the above picture??

http://www.chennailive.in/

Please see this...

I could see final preparation is going on...

Hope tommorrow we will have very good pictures of Kathipara

Another pic of Kathipara, courtesy, New Indian Express

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/7371/kathilatestkv8.jpg

^^I wish they had completed it 100% before inauguration... :ohno:

http://www.chennailive.in/

Please see this...

I could see final preparation is going on...

Hope tommorrow we will have very good pictures of Kathipara

I can see in the streaming video that the interchange is finally open fully :banana:

Another pic of Kathipara, courtesy, New Indian Express

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/7371/kathilatestkv8.jpg

there is going to be some seriously unpleasant maneuveres, traffic blocks and possibly even accidents on the elevated stretch ( AP to IRR ) due to lane merging/crossing ( discussed in depth earlier ). Obviously the engineers will take no responsibility for ill planning and instead blame the growing traffic and driving skills of the drivers and get away with it yet again. :ohno:

^^ i really don't know how its possible to take driver indiscipline into consideration while planning such projects.:bash:

Date:27/10/2008 URL: http://www.thehindu.com/2008/10/27/stories/2008102758010100.htm Back
New traffic arrangement comes into effect at Kathipara junction
The Rs. 260-crore grade separator executed by NHAI inaugurated
CHENNAI: A few changes in the movement of traffic have been introduced at the Kathipara junction, where Chief Minister M. Karunanidhi inaugurated a grade separator on Sunday...

The National Highways Authority India (NHAI) executed the grade separator project, which cost over Rs.260 crore.

A few months ago, one arm of the clover-shaped grade separator connecting GST Road and the Inner Ring Road was opened for vehicular traffic.

This is the first big grade separator in this part of the country.
Reasons for delay: Contractual problems and escalation in the cost of raw materials had resulted in delay in completion of the project.

The NHAI had proposed multi-level grade separators at different points in the city including Koyambedu and Padi with the objective of reducing traffic intensity in the city...

^^
Above picture looks fantastic....Cant wait to see the pictures after it has been completely opened up to traffic. We need more such grade seperator in and around Chennai city. The small flyovers that the govt is building just solves problems temporarily and in most cases causes problems elsewhere.

^^ i really don't know hot its possible to take driver indiscipline into consideration while planning such projects.:bash:

All this will change only when the general public are more literate about all these issues. But then most of Chennaites wouldn't have even seen a good functioning flyover in their lives ( except for the blessed few who travel abroad ) so obviously they cant tell what is wrong. I hope the trend will change when more people take interest in their city, traffic planning, urbanscaping etc. This can be done only when there are good courses that deals with these issue, better architectural school, media interest in the topic etc etc As such urban planning is as popular in Chennai as masala dosa is in Timbuktu. Hopefully forums such as ours will help people get more interested and involved and hopefully take up career or any other active involvement in urban planning and designing.

From DInakaran

http://dkn.dinakaran.co.in/27102008/DN_27-10-08_E1_05-13CNI.jpg

Dinamalar

http://epaper.dinamalar.com/DM/DINAMALAR/2008/10/27/photographs/006/27_10_2008_006_010_001.jpg

New Indian express

http://epaper.newindpress.com/NE/NE/2008/10/27/photographs/003/27_10_2008_003_001_002.jpg

http://epaper.newindpress.com/NE/NE/2008/10/27/photographs/003/27_10_2008_003_001_010.jpg

The underpass is basically for the houses and plots which are within the span of the flyover as it would prevent long queues for u turns at the starting and ending of the main spans. That is why in many countries the lowest level in an interchange starts a level above the ground level so that high density traffic flows above ground leaving the ground level for local areas to prevent long detours.

Is kathipara grade separator completly finished? Or are they inaugurating it early??

OPENING UP NEW PASSAGES


Finally, Kathipara flyover opens to ease traffic congestion at Guindy



TIMES NEWS NETWORK



Chennai: Chief Minister M Karunanidhi on Sunday inaugurated the much-awaited multi-level flyover at Kathipara junction.
The six-lane flyover, constructed at a cost of Rs 250 crore at Kathipara junction, a gateway into the city that has been a traffic bottleneck for years, is expected to eliminate delays on account of signalized intersection and result in savings on vehicle operating cost and travel time. It will also help reduce fuel emissions that occur due to idling of vehicles at the junction.
The flyover, longer than the Anna flyover at Gemini, will ensure a smooth and jam-free ride across the junction, particularly for those proceeding towards the airport. It will ensure that vehicles move fast on all sides as there will be no signals to stop them.
The total length of the main arm of the grade separator (from HIET to CIPET junction) is 1.41 km and there are four loops each of 180m length radiating from the main flyover in a clover leaf structure. Two subways have been provided for safe movement of pedestrians from one side to other.
The Kathipara grade separator should have been completed by April 2007 as per the original plan. But land acquisition and shifting of utilities such as electricity, telephone, water and sewerage lines delayed the work.
Inaugurating the flyover, the Chief Minister said the project was implemented perfectly though it was completed behind schedule.
Commending Union shipping and road transport minister T R Baalu for the successful completion of the project, Karunanidhi said people could see the implementation of a lot more such projects if they were voted back in power.
In his address, Baalu said the flyover would provide a great relief to the motorists by permitting smooth merging and weaving of traffic streams. Expressing concern over the increasing number of deaths due to accidents, the Minister appealed to vehicle users to avoid overspeeding, particularly on flyovers.

Traffic changes at Kathipara junction


Chennai: The traffic arrangements at the Kathipara junction have been changed following the opening of the grade separator on Sunday. From now on:
Vehicles proceeding from Guindy towards Vadapalani will proceed straight along the ramp beneath the flyover and take a free left after crossing the flyover and enter the main flyover from the left. Commuters proceeding from Guindy towards Porur shall keep right and proceed straight along the ramp beneath the flyover. Motorists proceeding from the Airport towards Porur shall keep left at the ground level and go through the Rajiv Gandhi arch. Vehicles proceeding from Vadapalani towards Guindy shall keep left and proceed along the slip road at the ground level. Motorists proceeding from Vadapalani towards Porur shall go along the flyover and take a left turn along the loop towards Porur. Motorists proceeding from Porur towards Guindy shall take Paulwells Road and proceed along the ramp. Those proceeding from Porur towards the Airport shall go straight along the ramp and take a left through the loop and enter the main flyover. Vehicles from Porur towards Vadapalani shall take Paulwells Road and thereafter take a free left adjacent to the flyover towards Vadapalani.

KATHIPARA

First-ever grade separator in the country with four loops being built by the NHAI. The flyover will reduce time taken to get to the airport

Land acquisition cost

Rs 161 cr

Construction cost

Rs 84 cr

UNDER CONSTRUCTION

Padi flyover- to be opened by January 2009
Koyambedu flyover to be opened in March 2009

http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Daily/skins/TOI/navigator.asp?Daily=TOICH&login=default

This cloverleaf model is already existing and not newly designed by NHAI.Since this is the first cloverleaf model a4 seeing this ,they may change over to better option for future grade separators.

The underpass is basically for the houses and plots which are within the span of the flyover as it would prevent long queues for u turns at the starting and ending of the main spans. That is why in many countries the lowest level in an interchange starts a level above the ground level so that high density traffic flows above ground leaving the ground level for local areas to prevent long detours.

Well what ever may be the true reason for this underpass design , the Omin buses will use it to pick up people under the flyover and they will proceed to TBM... its going to happen even if it is not the reason for the design:cheers:

i don't think that the underpass is big enough to let the omni buses in. Yeah but only if they take the road off in between the ramps will the flyover serve its purpose. otherwise some people will still be driving through it. it shoud be landscaped well. otherwise it will become an eyesore.

OPENING UP NEW PASSAGES
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Koyambedu flyover to be opened in March 2009

http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Daily/skins/TOI/navigator.asp?Daily=TOICH&login=default

How the hell can they open it on March 2009....??????

Did they mean -------

Work on Koyambedu flyover to be started in March 2009:lol:

OPENING UP NEW PASSAGES


Finally, Kathipara flyover opens to ease traffic congestion at Guindy

...

UNDER CONSTRUCTION

Padi flyover- to be opened by January 2009
Koyambedu flyover to be opened in March 2009

http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Daily/skins/TOI/navigator.asp?Daily=TOICH&login=default

^^Koyambedu flyover is much behind schedule to be completed in March 2009. If not on fast track, it'll be completed only by 2010 and not before that. :ohno:

Why dont these construction companies get a bit more modern with their construction methods. Sometimes I feel these flyovers and briges constructed in and around Tamilnadu are way too bulky. When we compare these flyovers to some that are being built in Delhi, Bangalore, Mumbai the methods and designs used there are much more advanced sleeker and modern looking. Check out the BETL project in Bangalore as a reference:


http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=394998&page=7

I drove along the Kathipara Grade separator in all arms. I am afraid that drivers have to be very cautious while chqanging lanes, otherwise bumping into the next lane vehicles will be the news every day.

Since the traffic was less, everybody was driving fast and some of them could not control the turning radius and were cutting into next lanes. Where we are supposed to cut lanes, visibility (in the rear view mirror) was poor due to the curvature.

I think that we may not have a disaster if the traffic is too tight (as the vehicles will move slowly), but it is against the fundemental principle of fast commutation.

I think traffic cops are needed at the top in every crossing at least for some time. (may be till all of us learn the rules and basics).

Most people were confused (esp 2 wheelers and commercial vehicle drivers) about which road to take as the instructions were not more prominent. Tamil Language instructions may also be needed.

Can we publish a simple route map (with arrow marks) in Tamil and distribute? Traffic Cops have to be a little patient while guiding the public (may be Diwali day blues!)

Summing up, NOT HAPPY WITH THE EXPERIENCE

Traffic Police shall mark on the roads as under with Arrows and large reflecting fonts.


From Anna Salai:

Arrow on Left lane - To Airport
Arrow on Middle lane - To Koyambedu [loop]
Arrow on Lane close to the median - To Bangalore

From Mount Poonamalle Road:

Arrow on Left lane - To Koyembedu
Arrow on Middle lane - To Airport [loop]
Arrow on Lane close to the median - To Anna Salai

From Airport GST Road:

Arrow on Left Lane - To Bangalore
Arrow on Middle lane - To Anna Salai [loop]
Arrow on Lane close to the median - To Koyembedu

From Koyembedu IRR:

Arrow on Left Lane - To Anna Salai
Arrow on Middle lane - To Bangalore [loop]
Arrow on Lane close to the median - To Airport

Lane discipline shall be enforced well ahead of the Interchange. Large caution signs to drive slowly, max 40 KMh shall be displayed along with large fine for lane weaving.

The success depends on Drivers choosing the right lane well ahead.

I drove along the Kathipara Grade separator in all arms. I am afraid that drivers have to be very cautious while chqanging lanes, otherwise bumping into the next lane vehicles will be the news every day.

Since the traffic was less, everybody was driving fast and some of them could not control the turning radius and were cutting into next lanes. Where we are supposed to cut lanes, visibility (in the rear view mirror) was poor due to the curvature.

I think that we may not have a disaster if the traffic is too tight (as the vehicles will move slowly), but it is against the fundemental principle of fast commutation.

I think traffic cops are needed at the top in every crossing at least for some time. (may be till all of us learn the rules and basics).

Most people were confused (esp 2 wheelers and commercial vehicle drivers) about which road to take as the instructions were not more prominent. Tamil Language instructions may also be needed.

Can we publish a simple route map (with arrow marks) in Tamil and distribute? Traffic Cops have to be a little patient while guiding the public (may be Diwali day blues!)

Summing up, NOT HAPPY WITH THE EXPERIENCE

^^
First fatal accident on Kathipara grade separator

Victim, not clear about the route, was travelling in the wrong direction

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Boards indicating routes, ramps for different directions were yet to be installed

The boards will be installed in a couple of days
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Chennai: A 65-year-old man, who sustained injuries after he met with an accident on the Kathipara grade separator on Monday evening, died on Tuesday morning.

It is the first fatal accident on the facility, which was inaugurated on Sunday.

The victim, riding a two-wheeler, had taken one of the ramps leading to the grade separator from the wrong side, as he was not sure about the route in the absence of direction boards, the police said.

D. Balasundaram, a businessman and resident of CIT Nagar, Nandanam, was on his way home on Monday evening from the Butt Road side in St. Thomas Mount.

As the grade separator was inaugurated only on Sunday evening, boards indicating the routes and ramps to be taken for the different directions were yet to be installed.

Police said Balasundaram had crossed Grand Southern Trunk Road from the Butt Road direction and climbed on one of the ramps from the wrong side.

He was hit by a jeep heading towards Guindy. The accident took place at 8.45 p.m. He sustained head injuries and was rushed to Government General Hospital in Chennai, where he died on Tuesday.

Police at the Chennai Suburban Commissionerate in St. Thomas Mount said that vehicles entered and left the clover shaped grade separator and the ground-level service lanes from nearly a dozen directions and the boards indicating the different routes and the ramps to be taken for the respective destinations were being prepared and were expected to be installed in a couple of days.

Source: http://www.hindu.com/2008/10/29/stories/2008102958550300.htm

^^

Boards indicating routes, ramps for different directions were yet to be installed

Tamil Language instructions may also be needed

:bash::bash:

Because of this one fatal!! Why cant they finish this simple works and open the flyover... and writings in Tamil is needed....

The newly inaugurated multi-level flyover at Kathipara junction has come as a welcome respite for drivers
and motorists frustrated by
the agonisingly slow pace of the construction and the consequent traffic jams. Those who used to take 20 minutes to get past this gridlocked junction now take just two minutes to breeze past without being hampered by any traffic signal.

Vehicle users seem to approve of the six-lane , clover leafshaped flyover that take them to areas as far apart as Guindy, Porur, Vadapalani and Tambaram .

But the day after the inauguration of the flyover was also one of great confusion and chaotic traffic. Lack of signboards and traffic personnel to guide first-time users made life difficult for many.

People were seen driving on the opposite side on the loops of the flyover and the ramp beneath it. Even the driver of a government bus, who had to take a left turn to go towards Porur got confused and drove the vehicle towards the airport. He had to hastily make amends and make a u-turn on GST Road.

A shopkeeper in the area, Ramanathan, said, "The sign boards are not adequate and are too small. The boards are present only at the entrances of the flyover. I had to give directions to scores of people. Authorities should put boards at least 100 feet before the flyover and police personnel should be deployed at all entry points and also near the four loops. This would prevent further confusion , particularly during peak hours."

While traffic police said at least three accidents were reported since the inauguration of the flyover on Sunday, Karthick, a senior executive from a company in Guindy Industrial Estate pointed out, "The government's statement on traffic rearrangement, which has been published in newspapers, is highly confusing and we could not make anything out of it. Officials should have distributed pamphlets on traffic re-arrangements in a more understandable way at least a week prior to the inauguration.''

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Chennai/Flyover_ends_snarls_but_users_confused_/articleshow/3649562.cms

weren't the officials supposed to put up gantry signboards??? This should have been done before the inauguration of the flyover!!:bash: Damn no planning whatsoever!!

This is the problem in our country.

Scant respect to human lives. Hell with safety norms

Officers are more interested in inaguration by politicians. Why can't they first finish all works and then inagurate?

Here's a video of kathipara after the inauguration.

WnsnA_Fvtzk

Here the source:

http://www.dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=446950&disdate=10/29/2008&advt=2

Saurabh85,

Nice video... Hope some one post the aeriel view soon.

Here the source:

http://www.dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=446950&disdate=10/29/2008&advt=2

flyover or subway?

^^

In news it is mentioned as flyover only.

^^
This report (http://www.hindu.com/2008/05/28/stories/2008052859800400.htm) says its a flyover cum subway. Anyone have any details on this?

^^
First fatal accident on Kathipara grade separator

Victim, not clear about the route, was travelling in the wrong direction

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Boards indicating routes, ramps for different directions were yet to be installed

The boards will be installed in a couple of days
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Chennai: A 65-year-old man, who sustained injuries after he met with an accident on the Kathipara grade separator on Monday evening, died on Tuesday morning.

It is the first fatal accident on the facility, which was inaugurated on Sunday.

The victim, riding a two-wheeler, had taken one of the ramps leading to the grade separator from the wrong side, as he was not sure about the route in the absence of direction boards, the police said.

D. Balasundaram, a businessman and resident of CIT Nagar, Nandanam, was on his way home on Monday evening from the Butt Road side in St. Thomas Mount.

As the grade separator was inaugurated only on Sunday evening, boards indicating the routes and ramps to be taken for the different directions were yet to be installed.

Police said Balasundaram had crossed Grand Southern Trunk Road from the Butt Road direction and climbed on one of the ramps from the wrong side.

He was hit by a jeep heading towards Guindy. The accident took place at 8.45 p.m. He sustained head injuries and was rushed to Government General Hospital in Chennai, where he died on Tuesday.

Police at the Chennai Suburban Commissionerate in St. Thomas Mount said that vehicles entered and left the clover shaped grade separator and the ground-level service lanes from nearly a dozen directions and the boards indicating the different routes and the ramps to be taken for the respective destinations were being prepared and were expected to be installed in a couple of days.

Source: http://www.hindu.com/2008/10/29/stories/2008102958550300.htm
This is f***ed up. Why don't they have large overhead signs similar to the ones on the Golden Quad or even Anna Salai?

They also need some "wrong way" or "no entry" signs at least until people get used to the cloverleaf.

Traffic police directing the people

Dinakaran

http://tm.dinakaran.com/29102008/TM_29-10-08_E1_03-03%20CNI.jpg

Traffic police directing the people

Dinakaran

http://tm.dinakaran.com/29102008/TM_29-10-08_E1_03-03%20CNI.jpg
Even Anna Salai (between Simpsons and Saidapet) had better signs than this ten years ago. What a shame.

^^
This report (http://www.hindu.com/2008/05/28/stories/2008052859800400.htm) says its a flyover cum subway. Anyone have any details on this?


Planemad,

Is this a different flyover in T.Nagar area??

http://tm.dinakaran.com/25102008/TM_25-10-08_E1_03-04%20CNI.jpg

Description says that it is in GN chetty road near Vani Mahal!

Planemad,

Is this a different flyover in T.Nagar area??

Description says that it is in GN chetty road near Vani Mahal!

Yes..there is new flyover close to completion on GN Chetty road infront of Vani Mahal and Residency hotel

This is f***ed up. Why don't they have large overhead signs similar to the ones on the Golden Quad or even Anna Salai?

They also need some "wrong way" or "no entry" signs at least until people get used to the cloverleaf.

Politicians who inaugurates the flyover don't seem to care two hoots about all these. They just want their name listed in the name board.:ohno:

Today i drove along all the ramps of the grade separator. to be frank i am just not impressed. the roads are not smooth. the ramps are too sharp except for one. the three lane ramps just do not serve three lanes, they are two lanes only. and all the three lanes merging with one lane in the main causeway is absolutely ridiculous. there is so much confusion. i can foresee many accidents that are going to take place. i never thought it would be so disappointing. even though it is something new to the city, i don't think this will be able to cater to the growing traffic beyond a certain period of time. we can then see buses getting clogged on the ramps and causing jams. it only seems like a temporary relief to me. though this flyover reduced my travel time from source to destination by 10 mins approx. i am not satisfied.

and i have another doubt.... can't the vehicles that come from Airport and take the ramp towards guindy, again take the ramp back to the airport from below the main flyover. i hope you can understand my question???? i actually had some trouble in taking the ramp to airport from st.Thomas mount side after getting down from the ramp to guindy from the airport. so i had to go straight to guindy. did i miss any gap in between the roads or is it so sickly planned????

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/4800/mapqw8.png (http://imageshack.us)
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/mapqw8.png/1/w886.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img520/mapqw8.png/1/)
This is the traffic flow diagram of kathipara, taken from osm (http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=13.007468&lon=80.203936&zoom=18&layers=B000FTF). should be correct i think

and i have another doubt.... can't the vehicles that come from Airport and take the ramp towards guindy, again take the ramp back to the airport from below the main flyover. i hope you can understand my question???? i actually had some trouble in taking the ramp to airport from st.Thomas mount side after getting down from the ramp to guindy from the airport. so i had to go straight to guindy. did i miss any gap in between the roads or is it so sickly planned????
Nope, see the diagram. Possibly done to eliminate weaving. The flyover is way too cramped :ohno:

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/4800/mapqw8.png (http://imageshack.us)
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/mapqw8.png/1/w886.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img520/mapqw8.png/1/)
This is the traffic flow diagram of kathipara, taken from osm (http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=13.007468&lon=80.203936&zoom=18&layers=B000FTF). should be correct i think
double posting for others

Planemad,

Is this a different flyover in T.Nagar area??

http://tm.dinakaran.com/25102008/TM_25-10-08_E1_03-04%20CNI.jpg

Description says that it is in GN chetty road near Vani Mahal!

Arul.. This is another flyover coming up at intersection of G N Chetty and Tirumalai Pillai Road. Target date is November 2008 perhaps one more month and Chennai corporation will open this before the year end in all probability

This is the problem in our country.

Scant respect to human lives. Hell with safety norms

Officers are more interested in inaguration by politicians. Why can't they first finish all works and then inagurate?

Very true! That's exactly what I was thinking. No one will be held responsible for not installing proper safety norms and directions.

double posting for others

but that is so sick....i mean the very purpose of a cloverleaf interchange is that you can go from any direction to any direction which even includes exiting from a ramp and entering the next ramp on the same side which will result in u - turns. i know it is too cramped but then this makes no sense either :ohno:

http://www.hindu.com/2008/10/30/stories/2008103052050300.htm

Flyover work reviewed

Chennai: Mayor M.Subramanian on Tuesday reviewed the ongoing work on the ‘Y’ shaped flyover coming up at the Rangarajapuram level crossing. The flyover is expected to be ready by the end of the next year.

Does anybody know or have seen the rendering of this flyover?. Where would the Y -arms of the flyover descend? I cannot imagine the Y-arm on the Usman road side.

This is the problem in our country.

Scant respect to human lives. Hell with safety norms

Officers are more interested in inaguration by politicians. Why can't they first finish all works and then inagurate?
The signage work can be done well ahead even before road surfacing is done. They have the computer model of the interchange and the signs are installed overhead. They didn't have to wait for completion of the construction work to install them. I don't know why they screw things up like this and open the road for use despite the screw ups.

http://dkn.dinakaran.co.in/30102008/DN_30-10-08_E1_02-01%20CNI.jpg

From dinakaran

Description says that "Since there is no proper sign boards in Kathipara grade separator, due to confusion one fatal accident happen few days before, now traffic police are made to stand to guide the confused people"

Thu, 30 Oct, 2008,02:29 PM
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Suburban Commissioner of Police S R Jangid today inspected the Kathipara Flyover following reports from several vehicle- users that they were a confused lot owing to lack of signboards and traffic policemen on the grade separator.

It is to be noted that the Chennai suburban traffic investigation police are planning to install 20 fluorescent digital signboards on the flyover next to the existing signboards.
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The confusion on the grade separator had led to the death of a senior citizen on Monday, a day after it was inaugurated by Chief Minister M Karunanidhi.

Balasundaram (65) of CIT Nagar at Nandanam was proceeding on his vehicle on the wrong side to go to Anna Salai when he was hit by a jeep speeding towards Guindy.

The flyover has four loops. The first loop connects the ramp to the flyover while the second helps the vehicle go down the flyover.

Many of them get confused because of the two loops. They do not have signboards to prevent vehicles on the ramp from entering the loops that are meant for going down the flyover.

A car hit a two-wheeler on the grade separator on Tuesday. The motorist was admitted to Government Hospital, Chromepet, and his condition is said to be stable.

http://newstodaynet.com/newsindex.php?id=11829%20&%20section=7

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3074/2987216526_e36faeabb0.jpg?v=0

Mayor M. Subra manian on Wednesday announced that the corporation had sought an administrative proposal from the government to construct a flyover at a cost of Rs 126 crore to ease traffic congestion in East Coast Road and Lattice Bridge road intersection at Tiruvanmiyur.

The civic body would spend about Rs 90 crore exclusively for land acquisition and around 50 grounds of land had already been identified for acquisition, he said. The corporation had approached the city collectorate to obtain the land and the flyover work would be taken up soon, he said.

To a query on the question of including city based private educational institutions under the property tax ambit, Mr Subramanian who was non-committal on the time frame, said that currently the civic body was identifying the categories such as fully-government aided, partially-government aided and fully private owned. “Once the list of institutions is ready, an allparty meeting would be convened to discuss the modalities to include the institutions under property tax ambit,” he said.

Earlier, the councillors, particularly those elected from north Chennai, had an intense debate on water logging and rain relief measures. The health and the storm water department came under severe criticism. Opposition floor leader Saidai Ravi also demanded the formation of a technical committee to assess the quality of constructed storm water drains and to study their efficiency.

maduravoil interchange progress is visible in Yahoo Maps.

Yahoo maps seems to be more recent than the google map for chennai.
if you guys want to see chennai before 5 years without any of this flyovers , u can check out in microsoft live maps

^^ Yes, yahoo has more recent imagery now. I was just about going to inform this in the forum, when I saw your message ;-)

Thu, 30 Oct, 2008,02:29 PM
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Suburban Commissioner of Police S R Jangid today inspected the Kathipara Flyover following reports from several vehicle- users that they were a confused lot owing to lack of signboards and traffic policemen on the grade separator.

It is to be noted that the Chennai suburban traffic investigation police are planning to install 20 fluorescent digital signboards on the flyover next to the existing signboards.


http://newstodaynet.com/newsindex.php?id=11829%20&%20section=7

The suburban police will install 30 additional signboards at different points, 50 metres from the Kathipara grade separator, to guide
road users on which lane to take. The decision was taken following an inspection of the grade separator by suburban city police commissioner S R Jangid and officials of the National Highways Authority of India (NHAI) on Thursday.

Following reports about the confusion at Kathipara, Jangid and NHAI project officer P Srinivas drove along all the lanes of the grade separator to have a first-hand experience. The signboards to be installed will be in addition to the 90 boards the police have already put up.

The officials found that unclear signboards were the major reason for the confusion. The officials said the new signboards will help road users choose their lanes well before reaching the flyover. Jangid told TOI that the police would strictly deal with people putting up posters and hoardings in the vicinity of the flyover. “This is a public property and we will not allow anyone to deface it,” he said.

P Srinivas said that upon inspection it was found that most of the problems rise because commuters tend to panic while travelling on the flyover and miss their exit. “There is no need to panic, as even if a commuter misses his or her exit point, he or she can always go around the flyover and take another loop. Many people tend to cut across no-entry zones instead of travelling around the loop again, leading to accidents,” the official said.

He added, “Pathways for pedestrians are being set up below the flyover, along which people can walk from any side of the flyover to any other side. It will take another fortnight for the completion of these subways, till which time there will be some difficulty for pedestrians.”

Jangid said the police had also identified 25 bottlenecks across the suburbs. “Moves are afoot to ease out traffic congestion in these areas by working out short-term and long term solutions with the help of local panchayats,” he said. In the wake of the death of a senior citizen, who took a wrong way on Kathipara grade separator on Monday night, a day after its inauguration, the suburban police have stepped up security arrangements by posted additional police personnel at the bridge to assist road users.

Closed-circuit television cameras will soon be installed at Kathipara, Airport junction and Porur junction.


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Chennai/More_signage_to_ease_flyover_chaos/articleshow/3656525.cms

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3074/2987216526_e36faeabb0.jpg?v=0

This picture is now in corporate mails forward list!! I received 2 mails containing this picture....

Nice campaign/training on Kathipara!!

http://dkn.dinakaran.com/31102008/DN_31-10-08_E6_17-03%20CNI.jpg

Saidapet (West) - Jones Road subway works in full swing..

Source: Dinakaran

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Source Dinakaran

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Source Dinakaran


Good one, Thank you

If anybody has to take a U Turn and come to the opp side of the road near the Kathipara Grade separtor, what is the easiest way?

Test for the SSCians????!!!!????

If anybody has to take a U Turn and come to the opp side of the road near the Kathipara Grade separtor, what is the easiest way?

Test for the SSCians????!!!!????
Climb up the first loop and then immediately climb down the next loop

Mayor M. Subra manian on Wednesday announced that the corporation had sought an administrative proposal from the government to construct a flyover at a cost of Rs 126 crore to ease traffic congestion in East Coast Road and Lattice Bridge road intersection at Tiruvanmiyur.

The civic body would spend about Rs 90 crore exclusively for land acquisition and around 50 grounds of land had already been identified for acquisition, he said. The corporation had approached the city collectorate to obtain the land and the flyover work would be taken up soon, he said.



The interchange at Lattice bridge road was announced way back, almost during the time when Kathipara started. It was announced to be a Flyover-cum-Subway interchange. Is it going to be the same? Have they reached the stage of releasing the renderings?

Does anyone know if there is anything planned for the Madhya Kailash intersection? The intention to build an interchange there was also declared when IT corridor started. But I've not heard anything since. Given the complexity of the place, it'll be another big project like Kathipara (probably even bigger).

Two subways planned at Kathipara Interchange for the benefit of pedestrians.

Source: Tamilmurasu chennai edition 31.10.2008

Climb up the first loop and then immediately climb down the next loop

It depends where you coming from.
I think you can use the loops to make U-turn only if you are coming from Vadapalani, Guindy and Porur.

If you are coming from Airport and want to make a U-turn - you gonna have to pay some extra fuel price (courtesy "The kathipara flyover design engineer").
In this case you either go straight towards vadapalani and take a U-turn in the next allowed signal OR you take the Guidy ramp, go down and take a U-turn in the next allowed signal.

How to reach from Porur to Airport road?
As per tamil picture I can’t quite get it.

It depends where you coming from.
I think you can use the loops to make U-turn only if you are coming from Vadapalani, Guindy and Porur.

If you are coming from Airport and want to make a U-turn - you gonna have to pay some extra fuel price (courtesy "The kathipara flyover design engineer").
In this case you either go straight towards vadapalani and take a U-turn in the next allowed signal OR you take the Guidy ramp, go down and take a U-turn in the next allowed signal.

But there's another way for U-turning for vehicles coming from airport..... juzz proceed till the end of the flyover and take a left adjacent to olympia tech park.... go to the end of tat road and take left.. this will lead u to approach road to kathipara from porur

then u can take left and reach the flyover and take the loop for airport.. this takes less time and distance than goin all the way to little mount and coming back.. :)

How to reach from Porur to Airport road?
As per tamil picture I can’t quite get it.
Guess u can get it from this pic
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3074/2987216526_e36faeabb0.jpg?v=0
Juzz take the first level change of the flover and take the left loop

I dont know why everybody is getting confused with the directions!?!
Simple thing u can remember is.... Whenever u wanna go RIGHT take the LEFT loop!
Porur - Airport
On reaching the flyover from porur, the airport road is to the RIGHT.... so u gotta the take the loop on the first level which turns LEFT... this will join u the main flyover road towared airport..

Hope this helps PDYkid :nuts:

If anybody has to take a U Turn and come to the opp side of the road near the Kathipara Grade separtor, what is the easiest way?

Test for the SSCians????!!!!????
You know, a cloverleaf is something that people of TN see every day in the kolam in front of the house. If they pay attention to it for a day, this will solve a lot of confusion in Kathipara.

...

Closed-circuit television cameras will soon be installed at Kathipara, Airport junction and Porur junction.


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Chennai/More_signage_to_ease_flyover_chaos/articleshow/3656525.cms

The CCTV is a good idea. This will serve as evidence in case of any accidents to find who is at fault. So, it will make people drive in a disciplined way if they know it is being watched and can be used against them if they break the law.

I wonder what the data retention policy for the CCTV footage of the Chennai Traffic Police is. If this is available, it can very well be subpoenaed in case of a lawsuit.

I think medical records need to be preserved by the hospitals for seven years. I wonder how long the CCTV footage will be retained. It will be helpful if they retain it for at least a year.

Two subways planned at Kathipara Interchange for the benefit of pedestrians.

Source: Tamilmurasu chennai edition 31.10.2008

These should have been planned ALONG with the original plan and incorporated into the master design. Not be added on as an after thought.

Hi Guys proper lane marking and sign boards will avoid the confusion.

I dont know why everybody is getting confused with the directions!?!
Simple thing u can remember is.... Whenever u wanna go RIGHT take the LEFT loop!
Porur - Airport
On reaching the flyover from porur, the airport road is to the RIGHT.... so u gotta the take the loop on the first level which turns LEFT... this will join u the main flyover road towared airport..

Hope this helps PDYkid :nuts:

Already we are familiar with the single loop, from Thousand light to Nungambakkam route we take the loop on the first level which turns LEFT and leads to Nungambakkam..


In Kathipara, we need to use it for all the directions.

the is no need for such gung-ho about this.... anybody with common sense can easily maneuver through the grade separator. just look at the divider between the loop and the main road. the loop which is in front of you is the one which you should take. you cannot take the one which you have already crossed. i mean once you reach the entry point of the loop all you have to do is proceed straight. from the entry point you cannot turn over(as in u - turn) and proceed on the wrong loop.

in simple words just take the exit on your left which you can see clearly or which invites you to go towards it.

If anybody has to take a U Turn and come to the opp side of the road near the Kathipara Grade separtor, what is the easiest way?

Test for the SSCians????!!!!????

there ar 4 clover leafs 2 on the northern/2 on the southern sides.
if you are coming on the toplevel of the kathipara grade separtor, and you want to take a u turn --

take the immediate available 'down' cloverleaf and stick to the left-most lane. the lane will take you up on the adjacent leaf and alight on the top of the
kathipara only on the opp. side.

i know this is NOT a puzzle/brainteaser... but there is some definitely 'getting used-to' here ... and thats normal.

btw, is the flyover median protected to avoid confusions as to which ramp to take etc ..

Thanks for your effort in crossposting the flyover psts TechCity. Very kind of you :cheers:

Very interesting link in the blog aswell. Thanks for sharing. I rcently highlighted the lane weaving issue which could potentialle be another problem as the loops in Kathipara becomes operational. The more the public are made aware of these, the harder it will be for planners and constructors to get away with poor and unsafe designs.

This is the design of all most all the flyover-cloverleaf- being followed in india.
Let us not point our fingers only on engrs and designers. Our drivers and we the public in particular - have to take a leaf or two even from the under developed countries in Africa, in following the law of the road.

New bridge planned at Aminjikarai
Kannal Achuthan

CHENNAI: The Highways Department plans to construct a new bridge over the Cooum near the junction of Poonamallee High Road and Nelson Manickam Road.

It will replace the narrow bridge, which leads to traffic bottleneck on Poonamallee High Road at Aminjikarai. The bridge, which is over 40 years old, does not have adequate space for footpaths, and pedestrians put themselves at risk while using it. The stretch is likely to get busier in the coming days with developments such as Ampa Mall coming up in the vicinity.

The Department recently removed encroachments along the Cooum banks under the bridge. This will pave way for the new, broader bridge to be built at a cost of Rs. 5 crore. Highways Department officials said earthmovers were used to demolish unauthorised shops that had come up along a stretch of Poonamallee High Road.

Hut-dwellers who protested the demolition have been given a few days to relocate.

The Department also cleared encroachments, at Kumananchavady, on the Mount–Poonamallee Road. About 150 structures, mostly unauthorised shops, were demolished.

The encroachments had come up over the past two decades, and the department could not make headway on the road widening, as some building owners had gone to court.

The widened road would ease congestion on the stretch frequently used by heavy vehicles.

http://www.hindu.com/2008/11/02/stories/2008110259810400.htm

TR Balu inspects flyover projects and chennai bypass. Padi flyover will be ready by December; TR Balu urges Koyambedu, Maduravoyal works to be hastened. Source: http://tamil.webdunia.com/newsworld/news/tnnews/0811/02/1081102012_1.htm

The issue of Proper Signs is a problem in most Indian Cities. There is no investment for "furniture" in highways. The Kathipara junction should have adequate signs that any motorist can read and navigate, don't have to get a Ph.D. in road traffic management science.

http://epaper.newindpress.com/NE/NE/2008/11/03/Article//002/03_11_2008_002_007.jpg

TR Balu inspects flyover projects and chennai bypass. Padi flyover will be ready by December; TR Balu urges Koyambedu, Maduravoyal works to be hastened. Source: http://tamil.webdunia.com/newsworld/news/tnnews/0811/02/1081102012_1.htm

^^
Any Recent pic?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3067/2998382240_2f54c32db9.jpg?v=0

please give the source... cant read the news ^^

TR Balu inspects flyover projects and chennai bypass. Padi flyover will be ready by December; TR Balu urges Koyambedu, Maduravoyal works to be hastened. Source: http://tamil.webdunia.com/newsworld/news/tnnews/0811/02/1081102012_1.htm



Padi flyover will be ready by December 1st week itself,

http://www.dailythanthi.com/article.asp?NewsID=448099&disdate=11/3/2008&advt=2

Here the source

http://district.dinamalar.com/districtnews_main.asp?ncat=Chennai&ncat_ta=%E0%AE%9A%E0%AF%86%E0%AE%A9%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A9%E0%AF%88#97490

It depends where you coming from.
I think you can use the loops to make U-turn only if you are coming from Vadapalani, Guindy and Porur.

If you are coming from Airport and want to make a U-turn - you gonna have to pay some extra fuel price (courtesy "The kathipara flyover design engineer").
In this case you either go straight towards vadapalani and take a U-turn in the next allowed signal OR you take the Guidy ramp, go down and take a U-turn in the next allowed signal.

There is no need to use the loops to take U-turn from porur or airport...

From Airport - Do not climb up and take a U-turn under the fly-over. I think it is blocked at the moment due to construction. Not sure.

From Porur - Take a right turn before the road reaches the junction. You will reach the road that goes back to Porur. Take right again and go back.

please give the source... cant read the news ^^

This is from deccan chronicle epaper u can find only wat i have posted and for magnifying u have to register .Click here (http://www.dc-epaper.com/DC/DCC/2008/11/03/INDEX.SHTML?ArtId=002_006&Search=Y)to view the page.

Last night at around 10 PM when I was coming by bus to CMBT, I saw two students who had parked their bikes at the highest part of Kathipara flyover and taking a leak! I am not sure what I would have done to them if I had not been in a bus :bash:

Last night at around 10 PM when I was coming by bus to CMBT, I saw two students who had parked their bikes at the highest part of Kathipara flyover and taking a leak! I am not sure what I would have done to them if I had not been in a bus :bash:

maybe they thought the rcc needs curing :lol:

I saw two students who had parked their bikes at the highest part of Kathipara flyover and taking a leak! I am not sure what I would have done to them if I had not been in a bus :bash:

joined them and made it a threesome ?

http://epaper.dinamalar.com/DM/DINAMALAR/2008/11/04/photographs/014/04_11_2008_014_008_001.jpg

http://epaper.dinamalar.com/DM/DINAMALAR/2008/11/04/photographs/014/04_11_2008_014_008_001.jpg

AT LAST!!!! This is being constructed for the past ten years or even more i think. I used to think that this bridge will not open even after the next 25 years. There was hardly any activity in between for several years. Finally, they are opening this bridge. One of the best examples of how a project can be delayed for so many years.

Atleast from now onwards this would help ppl from Velachery and beyond in reaching Guindy GST road side, instead of going through concorde motors - SPIC route.

The photograph is very nice. Shows the full length of the bridge.

^^

So the bridge is designed for handling traffic in 1995-2000!!

so will this flyover be enough to handle the traffic in future?

Is there any progress in GST Road and Pallavaram - Thoraipakkam Radial Road flyover; all projects started after that is getting completed now... why the gov is not showing any interest

^^

So the bridge is designed for handling traffic in 1995-2000!!

so will this flyover be enough to handle the traffic in future?

I saw the bridge and it is very narrow :bash:.. can be used for only one way traffic... but they're sayin its gonna be two way traffice in the bridge..... I fear tat'll lead to many accidents on the bridge as there's no center median and only 2 lanes are there for the entire bridge..:ohno:

Padi flyover to be opened for traffic in next month

http://tm.dinakaran.com/3112008/TM_03-11-08_E1_04-04%20CNI.jpg

Dinakaran

^^Yeah! About 80% completed now.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3067/2998382240_2f54c32db9.jpg?v=0

For those finding it difficult to decipher the above article, I've manually keyed in the same. Please excuse me for any typos (especially those numerical entries such as project cost, etc.; please cross-check against other sources)... Thanks for the info, Natarajan! :cheers:

Improving Chennai's Connectivity

Here are some of the major projects that seek to improve connectivity and ease the traffic congestion in the city and suburbs:

Padi grade separator:

==>The grade separator will ease traffic flow in Ambattur, Padi, Anna Nagar and Villivakkam and on the Madras-Thirupathi High Road (MTH).

==>The project estimated to cost Rs. 125 crore would be completed by December 2008.

==>Currently about 550 skilled workers are working on shifts. The contractor has been asked to increase the number of workers and shifts.

==>Land acquisition, encroachments near Villivakkam, delay in handing over a piece of railway land, bureaucratic procedures and poor mobilisation by the contractor had pushed the project back by several months.

Koyambedu grade separator:

==>The grade separator will ease traffic flow along Poonamallee High Road and in Maduravoyil, Koyambedu, Anna Nagar and Arumbakkam.

==>The project estimated to cost Rs. 191 crore started in 2005 and was expected to be completed in 24 months. But the date of inauguration is yet to be announced by NHAI.

==>At present about 200 skilled workers from Bihar and other states are working. Soon a review meeting would be held by NHAI in New Delhi to discuss the delay.

==>Land acquisition was the major reason for the delay. Several people initially refused to part with their land, including DMDK leader Vijayakanth. The cost of land in this area had increased by 10 times since the project work started, making land acquisition a Herculean task.

Maduravoyil grade separator:

==>The grade separator will ease traffic flow along Poonamallee High Road. Heavy vehicles from Irumbuliyur can avoid the city and use this by-pass to reach North Chennai.

==>The project, initially proposed at a cost of Rs. 489 crore, is also covered under the Golden Quadrilateral, connecting Chennai to Mumbai, New Delhi and Kolkata.

==>This is the most delayed project due to various reasons including loose soil. Besides land acquisition, lack of expertise in preparing a design suiting the local soil condition and heavy flow of traffic had delayed this project by more than two years.

Ennore–Manali road improvement project:

==>The Ennore–Manali Road Improvement Project will improve connectivity between Chennai and Ennore Port. It will help improve the Ennore Expressway up to Manali Oil Refinery Road and decongest traffic in northern suburbs.

==>The total cost of the 29-km project is Rs. 537 crore. The work undertaken by the Tamil Nadu Road Development Corporation would also connect the Export Economic Zone, Tambaram.

Elevated expressway:

==>The expressway would ease traffic flow, particularly of containers and heavy vehicles, from Maduravoyil to Chennai Port Trust.

==>Initially proposed to be constructed from Chennai Port to Maduravoyil along the banks of the Cooum, the project will now undergo an alignment change. It will pass over the existing Poonamallee High Road from Maduravoyil to Koyambedu for a stretch of 18.3 km and then go along the Cooum.

==>The total cost of the project is Rs. 1560 crore and is partly funded by Chennai Port Trust under the port connectivity project.

Kathipara to be beautified:

==>Chennai Port Trust would develop the landscape near Kathipara grade separator.

==>Fountains, Lawns, special lights and maintenance of these parks would be taken up.

==>Preliminary works for construction of two pedestrian subways beneath the grade separator was underway.

Padi flyover to be opened for traffic in next month

http://tm.dinakaran.com/3112008/TM_03-11-08_E1_04-04%20CNI.jpg

Dinakaran

Looks Grand one. Is it bigger than Kathipara.

But looking at the area i think kathipara is bigger...

Kathipara flyover is bigger and wider than the Padi one. Unlike Kathipara which is a grade separator, Padi flyover is a rotary.

Padi flyover gets mapped
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=13.10172&lon=80.19479&zoom=17&layers=0B00FTF

^^Well before inauguration... :)

May be I'm not understanding the plan properly. But can any one tell me the advantage of having an elevated rotary compared to having one on the ground (like old kathipara jn)? Are there any plans to take one of the roads underground (as a subway) at the junction?

I dont understand why the rotary cant be on the ground, and a regular flyover built to cross the rotary? This way the construction cost would have been way lower.

Kathipara after inauguration
Courtesy: anbarasan

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/3703/1028142054uw1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Councillors raise the issue at the recent council meeting

http://www.hindu.com/2008/11/06/images/2008110658100401.jpg
Long way to go: Residents of Alandur Municipality, who are forced to take detours, want a ‘U’ turn near Balaji Hospital in Guindy.

TAMBARAM: The Kathipara grade separator might have eliminated traffic snarls at the junction and eased movement of traffic towards many directions, but for residents of localities near the facility it is translating into more time and expenditure to reach certain destinations.

A case in point is that of the residents and elected representatives of Alandur Municipality who, a few days ago, urged the National Highways Authority of India and Chennai Suburban Police to initiate measures to ensure easy access to their localities from the facility.

At the recent meeting of the Alandur Municipal Council, the issue was raised by councillors. They said that the construction of the grade separator had denied direct and easy access to Alandur for motorists coming from Tambaram and Poonamallee sides. Before the construction of the Rs.260-crore facility, motorists from Poonamallee and Tambaram could travel around the roundabout to reach the office of Alandur Municipality, the Regional Transport Office, the Judicial Magistrate and District Munsiff courts, office of Tamil Nadu Water Supply and Drainage Board and offices of the State Highways Department, among others.

When construction of the grade separator began, a ‘U’ turn facility was provided on Grand Southern Trunk Road opposite Balaji Hospital. With the commissioning of the grade separator, motorists from Tambaram and Poonamallee have to travel till Little Mount and reach Alandur via Raj Bhavan and Guindy, a detour of more than 5 km.

In a statement, Municipal Chairman R. S. Bharathi appealed to Chennai Suburban Police Commissioner S. R. Jangid to take steps for provision of a ‘U’ turn to ensure direct access to Alandur from Tambaram and Poonamallee.

At present, motorists from Tambaram and Poonamallee travelled on the ramps before reaching the main access leading to GST Road towards airport and travelled on the wrong side to reach these government offices in Alandur, at huge risks to themselves and other road users .

During an interaction with the media on Wednesday, Mr. Jangid said they continued to have discussions with officials of the NHAI on providing access to those places where residents found it difficult to reach after the grade separator’s construction. He said an access to Alandur would be created underneath the facility for the benefit of motorists.

At the same time, it was not possible to restore ‘U’ turns anywhere near the grade separator’s facility as it would result in severe problems, he added.

Source: http://www.hindu.com/2008/11/06/stories/2008110658100400.htm

May be I'm not understanding the plan properly. But can any one tell me the advantage of having an elevated rotary compared to having one on the ground (like old kathipara jn)? Are there any plans to take one of the roads underground (as a subway) at the junction?

I dont understand why the rotary cant be on the ground, and a regular flyover built to cross the rotary? This way the construction cost would have been way lower.
^^
Elevation is to cross a railway line.
also IRR will have thro traffic at ground level.

Agreed its a bad design. and will not help to handle traffic that comes now. since there are three direction traffic flows heavily.
1. between IRR south and IRR north. (handled now)
2. between IRR south and CTH (NH 205) - WEST.
3. between CTH west and CTH East

4.There are very less people take right turn from CTH East to IRR - North (Red hills road takes most of thelong distance traffic, a shorter and narrow road) and
5 There are alternate road (Via) nathamuni theater available (a shorter but narrow lane) and most prefer this road to avoid right turn from IRR South to CTH East.


So better design would have been
Stright under pass along CTH.
Stright over bridge along IRR.
Widen the inner Roads.
On the ground level facilitate IRR south and CTH west.

Please See the map of the locality to understand my view.

PS. I lived in villivakkam to say about this.
To my surprise there was not much traffic takking right turn from IRR north to CTH west. (may be because they take ambattor puzhal road. and if the ORR comes this traffic will also reduce much.

Councillors raise the issue at the recent council meeting

http://www.hindu.com/2008/11/06/images/2008110658100401.jpg
Long way to go: Residents of Alandur Municipality, who are forced to take detours, want a ‘U’ turn near Balaji Hospital in Guindy.

TAMBARAM: The Kathipara grade separator might have eliminated traffic snarls at the junction and eased movement of traffic towards many directions, but for residents of localities near the facility it is translating into more time and expenditure to reach certain destinations.

A case in point is that of the residents and elected representatives of Alandur Municipality who, a few days ago, urged the National Highways Authority of India and Chennai Suburban Police to initiate measures to ensure easy access to their localities from the facility.

At the recent meeting of the Alandur Municipal Council, the issue was raised by councillors. They said that the construction of the grade separator had denied direct and easy access to Alandur for motorists coming from Tambaram and Poonamallee sides. Before the construction of the Rs.260-crore facility, motorists from Poonamallee and Tambaram could travel around the roundabout to reach the office of Alandur Municipality, the Regional Transport Office, the Judicial Magistrate and District Munsiff courts, office of Tamil Nadu Water Supply and Drainage Board and offices of the State Highways Department, among others.

When construction of the grade separator began, a ‘U’ turn facility was provided on Grand Southern Trunk Road opposite Balaji Hospital. With the commissioning of the grade separator, motorists from Tambaram and Poonamallee have to travel till Little Mount and reach Alandur via Raj Bhavan and Guindy, a detour of more than 5 km.

In a statement, Municipal Chairman R. S. Bharathi appealed to Chennai Suburban Police Commissioner S. R. Jangid to take steps for provision of a ‘U’ turn to ensure direct access to Alandur from Tambaram and Poonamallee.

At present, motorists from Tambaram and Poonamallee travelled on the ramps before reaching the main access leading to GST Road towards airport and travelled on the wrong side to reach these government offices in Alandur, at huge risks to themselves and other road users .

During an interaction with the media on Wednesday, Mr. Jangid said they continued to have discussions with officials of the NHAI on providing access to those places where residents found it difficult to reach after the grade separator’s construction. He said an access to Alandur would be created underneath the facility for the benefit of motorists.

At the same time, it was not possible to restore ‘U’ turns anywhere near the grade separator’s facility as it would result in severe problems, he added.

Source: http://www.hindu.com/2008/11/06/stories/2008110658100400.htm
Motorists from tambaram can take "U" turn like this...

Proceed to the end of the flyover and take the left turn juzz before the Olympia tech park... reach the road end and take a left turn... this will lead u to the road parallel to butt road... then again take a left turn to reach the grade separator...
This can be around 2 kms max!!

New lanes and directions at Kathipara flyover including U turns and taking a complete circle around the flyover. If you are getting confused to go around this butterfly flyover, this is your best guide.

http://img.technospot.net/kathipara-flyover.jpg

Kathipara flyover Lanes and Directions

Chennai Airport
Airport –> Guindy 1 – 11 – 4 – 9 – 13
Airport –> Vadapalani 1 – 11 – 14
Airport –> Porur 1 – 2 – 12

Porur :
Porur –> Guindy 12 – 9 – 13
Porur –> Vadapalani 8 – 14 (side road)
Porur –> Airport 12 – 5 – 11 – 1

Vadapalani :
Vadapalani –> Airport 14 – 11 – 1
Vadapalani –> Porur 14 -11 – 7 – 12
Vadapalani –> Guindy side road – 6 – 13

Guindy
Guindy –> Vadapalani 13 – 9 – 3 – 11 – 14
Guindy –> Porur 13 – 9 – 12
Guindy –> Airport 13 – 10 – 1

Now if you want to go round and round and take a complete circle :
One full cycle 11 – 4 – 5 – 11 – 7 – 3 – 11

U - Turns at Kathipara Flyover :
11 – 4 – 5 – 11 (Airport side U Turn)
11 – 7 – 3 – 11 ( Vadapalani side U turn)
8 – 5 – 11 – 7 – 12 (Porur side u turn)
13 – 9 – 3 – 11 – 4 – 9 – 13 (Guindy side U turn)

New lanes and directions at Kathipara flyover including U turns and taking a complete circle around the flyover. If you are getting confused to go around this butterfly flyover, this is your best guide.

http://img.technospot.net/kathipara-flyover.jpg

Kathipara flyover Lanes and Directions

Chennai Airport
Airport –> Guindy 1 – 11 – 4 – 9 – 13
Airport –> Vadapalani 1 – 11 – 14
Airport –> Porur 1 – 2 – 12

Porur :
Porur –> Guindy 12 – 9 – 13
Porur –> Vadapalani 8 – 14 (side road)
Porur –> Airport 12 – 5 – 11 – 1

Vadapalani :
Vadapalani –> Airport 14 – 11 – 1
Vadapalani –> Porur 14 -11 – 7 – 12
Vadapalani –> Guindy side road – 6 – 13

Guindy
Guindy –> Vadapalani 13 – 9 – 3 – 11 – 14
Guindy –> Porur 13 – 9 – 12
Guindy –> Airport 13 – 10 – 1

Now if you want to go round and round and take a complete circle :
One full cycle 11 – 4 – 5 – 11 – 7 – 3 – 11

U - Turns at Kathipara Flyover :
11 – 4 – 5 – 11 (Airport side U Turn)
11 – 7 – 3 – 11 ( Vadapalani side U turn)
8 – 5 – 11 – 7 – 12 (Porur side u turn)
13 – 9 – 3 – 11 – 4 – 9 – 13 (Guindy side U turn)
^^
11 – 4 – 5 – 11 (Airport side U Turn) you are unlikely to take 5 from 4.

satsukhoi - u have done a nice job - however I feel that while coming FROM PORUR side the traffic would all be on LANE 8 and hence the following corrections.

Porur - Guindy - Lane 8 (instead of Lane 12)-9-13
Porur - Airport - Lane 8 (instead of Lane 12) - 5 -11 -1
(PS - sorry for the correction)

Also for U turn for Traffic from Airport on Lane 11 - 4 - 5 - 11 - will not there be a congestion due to traffic descending from the loop marked 4 having to change lanes to extreme left to climb on Loop 5 - any suggestions / comments

^^

you cannot interchange between loops 4 and 5. please note that this is not a traditional cloverleaf model because a normal cloverleaf would have had the loops 4 and 5 aligned in the same way as 3 and 7. the kathipara cloverleaf is designed in such a way that if you take loop 4 you can proceed only to 9 and cannot take loop 5 as in the case of a normal cloverleaf. the loop 5 is only for the vehicles coming from 8 which proceeds to 1 through 11. this is so because of the space constraint to build a proper loop for 4. therefore loop 4 crosses over 8 and then comes parallel to 8 after the entrance to 5 is over. there is a median between loop 4 and 8 till it reaches the end of the flyover at 9. this is done for safety reasons keeping the reckless Indian traffic in mind.

therefore it is practically impossible to take a U-turn on the flyover using the loops if you are coming from the airport side.

hope this makes it clear to you sureshvisw !

thanks cool mukund - i was concerned about the safety of the perpetually in a rush Indian drivers too !!!!!!!!!!! is there any way we guys can help reduce the sound pollution on chennai roads:bash::bash::bash::bash::bash:

^^
Govt. can help mandate RTOs to remove all electric horns from vechicles plying inside the City and replace them with those century old rubber bellows.

^^Nice find mate!! Lots of clean work needs to be done around the flyover. should look great after that.

... courtesy: http://madavillagam.blogspot.com/

Link: http://madavillagam.blogspot.com/2008/11/blog-post_03.html

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Good Effort Satsukhoi.

The problem is when there is a heavy traffic, changing lanes will be the most difficult and this may aggravate the traffic jams and accidents also may happen more.

The very purpose of this grade separator is make it smooth and fast. But they have not planned well. The volume of traffic has increased manifold but the design is based on old stats.

The importance have been given to Airport - IRR and GST Roads. I feel that the way Mt Poonamallee Road and Sriperumpudhur are developing, this road has to be catered better at Kathipara. Butt Road Jn near the Mount is a huge bottleneck and a separate flyover along Butt Road from airport side to Nandambakkam may ease the traffic.

Guys! Please work on U Turns without getting up into the elevated portions ( I mean at the ground level). Already Alandhur people are complaining.

Moreover, teaching the road using public about the discipline is the need of the hour.

Good Effort Satsukhoi.

The problem is when there is a heavy traffic, changing lanes will be the most difficult and this may aggravate the traffic jams and accidents also may happen more.

The very purpose of this grade separator is make it smooth and fast. But they have not planned well. The volume of traffic has increased manifold but the design is based on old stats.

The importance have been given to Airport - IRR and GST Roads. I feel that the way Mt Poonamallee Road and Sriperumpudhur are developing, this road has to be catered better at Kathipara. Butt Road Jn near the Mount is a huge bottleneck and a separate flyover along Butt Road from airport side to Nandambakkam may ease the traffic.

Guys! Please work on U Turns without getting up into the elevated portions ( I mean at the ground level). Already Alandhur people are complaining.

Moreover, teaching the road using public about the discipline is the need of the hour.

Nope... Most of the traffic in Butt road comes from guindy side...
The butt road is too narrow and it has many risky turns and cannot support two way traffic...
the next government may plan a flyover over the kathipara flyover.. who knows?!?!:nuts:

Do we really need that many sign boards for the kathipara flyover. It might only add to confusion. for eg. the poonamalle board with a straight arrow in the second pic(post 675)can be confusing resulting in some people taking the loop rather than going straight on the right. Is there any plan to install overhead gantry signboards as on national highways??

Do we really need that many sign boards for the kathipara flyover. It might only add to confusion. for eg. the poonamalle board with a straight arrow in the second pic(post 675)can be confusing resulting in some people taking the loop rather than going straight on the right. Is there any plan to install overhead gantry signboards as on national highways??

Apart from the overhead gantry boards NHAI must install boards or warning signs regarding the lanes that vehicles must take to reach the proper loop. These warnings must be atleast 1/2 mile from the entry point and not midway on the flyover as it can cause panic and chaos if people take the wrong lane which will lead to accidents. Moreover, marking on the road like they have it here in USA also would help reduce the confusion .
Looking at the pictures it only suggests that neither the NHAI nor the traffic police have given a thought about installing the boards prior to this issue came in the media.

Here comes the next gift for Chennai city.

T.Nagar GN Chetty road Flyover works nearing completion and going to be opened next month.

Malaimurasu

http://tm.dinakaran.com/9112008/TM_09-11-08_E1_03-01%20CNI.jpg

^^Looks wider than the Usman Road Flyover.

its 4 laned as compared to the two lane one in Usman road....

Here comes the next gift for Chennai city.

T.Nagar GN Chetty road Flyover works nearing completion and going to be opened next month.

Malaimurasu

http://tm.dinakaran.com/9112008/TM_09-11-08_E1_03-01%20CNI.jpg

The ramp portion seems to be too sudden. Should it not be smoother curve.

Perambur flyover to be ready by December 2009

Staff Reporter

Work will be completed two months ahead of schedule: Stalin

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— Photo: V.Ganesan

Status assessment: Local Administration Minister M.K.Stalin checks the flyover blueprint at the project site on Monday.

CHENNAI: The Perambur flyover project will be completed by December 2009, Local Administration Minister M.K. Stalin said on Monday after inspecting the project site.

Eight of the 30 pillars to come up have been erected. Though the targeted date of completion of the Rs.51-crore project is February 2010, the work would get over at least two months ahead, he told mediapersons.

Instead of deep pile pillars, open foundation pillars with broad concrete base have been proposed for the 1,038-metre-long flyover, Mr.Stalin said. Work on the project, entrusted to IVRCL Infrastructure and Projects Ltd, commenced about six months ago based on the new design provided by Anna University.

The university was commissioned for the design after a technical snag came in the way of the project being taken up after it was revised in 2006.

Highlighting the other infrastructure projects coming up in north Chennai, he said work on eight flyovers and vehicular subways, including those in Perambur, Villivakkam and Mint, were in various stages of implementation. The total cost of the projects is Rs.182.13 crore.

While work to construct a vehicular subway near Stanley Medical College is under way, land acquisition is over for the proposed flyover on Kathivakkam High Road-Cochrane Basin Road junction.

Mr.Stalin said the flyover on G.N.Chetty Road in T.Nagar would be inaugurated by December 15.

Evictees protest


Tension prevailed in the area for some time after the Minister left, as those evicted for the Perambur flyover protested demanding alternative accommodation. One of the protestors, K.Alamelu, said about 200 families in Rajiv Gandhi Nagar and Tollgate evicted six months ago live in make-shift sheds behind the flyover site.

K.Chinnapaiyan, another resident, said the families were also being asked to move away from that site.

Chennai Corporation Commissioner Rajesh Lakhoni assured them that they would soon be provided an alternative site.

http://www.hindu.com/2008/11/11/stories/2008111159950300.htm

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Work apace at Padi Grade Separator..

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what is the total count of flyovers in chennai counting the ones u/c?

check the link

http://district.dinamalar.com/districtnews_main.asp?ncat=Chennai&ncat_ta=%E0%AE%9A%E0%AF%86%E0%AE%A9%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A9%E0%AF%88#101203

T.Nagar flyover U-tube video

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Kathipara flyover you tube videos- Main carriage way

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Perambur flyover to be ready by December 2009

Staff Reporter

Work will be completed two months ahead of schedule: Stalin

http://www.hindu.com/2008/11/11/images/2008111159950301.jpg

— Photo: V.Ganesan

Status assessment: Local Administration Minister M.K.Stalin checks the flyover blueprint at the project site on Monday.

CHENNAI: The Perambur flyover project will be completed by December 2009, Local Administration Minister M.K. Stalin said on Monday after inspecting the project site.

Eight of the 30 pillars to come up have been erected. Though the targeted date of completion of the Rs.51-crore project is February 2010, the work would get over at least two months ahead, he told mediapersons.

Instead of deep pile pillars, open foundation pillars with broad concrete base have been proposed for the 1,038-metre-long flyover, Mr.Stalin said. Work on the project, entrusted to IVRCL Infrastructure and Projects Ltd, commenced about six months ago based on the new design provided by Anna University.

The university was commissioned for the design after a technical snag came in the way of the project being taken up after it was revised in 2006.

Highlighting the other infrastructure projects coming up in north Chennai, he said work on eight flyovers and vehicular subways, including those in Perambur, Villivakkam and Mint, were in various stages of implementation. The total cost of the projects is Rs.182.13 crore.

While work to construct a vehicular subway near Stanley Medical College is under way, land acquisition is over for the proposed flyover on Kathivakkam High Road-Cochrane Basin Road junction.

Mr.Stalin said the flyover on G.N.Chetty Road in T.Nagar would be inaugurated by December 15.

Evictees protest


Tension prevailed in the area for some time after the Minister left, as those evicted for the Perambur flyover protested demanding alternative accommodation. One of the protestors, K.Alamelu, said about 200 families in Rajiv Gandhi Nagar and Tollgate evicted six months ago live in make-shift sheds behind the flyover site.

K.Chinnapaiyan, another resident, said the families were also being asked to move away from that site.

Chennai Corporation Commissioner Rajesh Lakhoni assured them that they would soon be provided an alternative site.

http://www.hindu.com/2008/11/11/stories/2008111159950300.htm

Is this the flyover in front of Perambur Railway Station (the work on which was started about a decade ago, I guess)? If not, what is the fate of this flyover that I'm talking about?

Thanks for those flyover videos!

^^yep thats the one.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=13.10771&lon=80.24347&zoom=17&layers=0B00FTF

^^Oh! That's great! Thanks PlaneMad. :)

what is the total count of flyovers in chennai counting the ones u/c?

probably around 20 out of which 14 are completed

The Madras high court on Wednesday upheld the land acquisition proceedings of the state government for construction of a subway near the railway level crossing in Korukupet in the city. Justice K. Venkataraman dismissed a batch of petitions from M Abdul Bahid and others, whose properties were acquired. Referring to the contention that the construction work of the proposed over bridge and the subway should be carried out simultaneously, the judge said whether the over bridge and the subway had to be constructed simultaneously or otherwise has to be decided by the authorities on getting opinion from the experts in the field. It was not for this court to decide this issue.

As regards the second contention that the notification was not given wide publicity, the judge said “when the state strongly contends that the business daily, in which the notification was published, is having wide circulation, the same cannot be disputed unless the petitioners deny the same by establishing their contention through acceptable means.”
As regards the third contention, the judge said it was for the government to decide which part of the land would be convenient to put up the over bridge and subway and it was not for the petitioners to dictate terms.

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/chennaichronicle/City/CityNews.asp#Land%20for%20subway%20okayed

probably around 20 out of which 14 are completed

thanks natarajan!!!

The Madras high court on Wednesday upheld the land acquisition proceedings of the state government for construction of a subway near the railway level crossing in Korukupet in the city. Justice K. Venkataraman dismissed a batch of petitions from M Abdul Bahid and others, whose properties were acquired. Referring to the contention that the construction work of the proposed over bridge and the subway should be carried out simultaneously, the judge said whether the over bridge and the subway had to be constructed simultaneously or otherwise has to be decided by the authorities on getting opinion from the experts in the field. It was not for this court to decide this issue.

As regards the second contention that the notification was not given wide publicity, the judge said “when the state strongly contends that the business daily, in which the notification was published, is having wide circulation, the same cannot be disputed unless the petitioners deny the same by establishing their contention through acceptable means.”
As regards the third contention, the judge said it was for the government to decide which part of the land would be convenient to put up the over bridge and subway and it was not for the petitioners to dictate terms.

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/chennaichronicle/City/CityNews.asp#Land%20for%20subway%20okayed

Nice verdict :) appears to be strongly worded

probably around 20 out of which 14 are completed

I don't think it's 20. Perhaps, a lot more than that... :)

^^

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You are Complan Boy now.. no more Rasna boy! :lol:

Traffic starts in Kathipara flyover!!

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This report says that due to pedastrians there is a traffic congestion in loops!!:bash:

Traffic starts in Kathipara flyover!!

http://tm.dinakaran.com/15112008/TM_15-11-08_E1_05-01%20CNI.jpg

This report says that due to pedastrians there is a traffic congestion in loops!!:bash:

Not only in kathipara! the traffic is very sick in guindy!! instead of taking a max of 2-3 mins to reach the olympia tech park from guindy bridge, it takes 20-25 mins!!

Bottlenecks are
1. Pedestrians occupyin' one lane entirely!:bash: [This accounts for 60% of traffic jams!] - including the crowd waiting for the bus in one lane.
2. Guindy bus stop - it is not organized properly!.. [Major Bottleneck - account for atleast 30% for the congestion]:ohno:
3. Guindy Bridge

Suggestions: [for the Guindy railway station side]
1. Pedestrian corridor and Police personels to book against those who come into the road.
2. Construction of bus terminus like the one in saidapet -- longer terminus for accomodating huge services. The entry for this should not be near the railway station! little far away-- otherwise again the buses will wait to enter the terminus causing traffic jam!
3. Widening of guindy bridge.

^^

Yes in the arterial mount road, only the Guindy bus stop has no discipline... Atleast other stops like Teynampet, DMS, Thousand lights, LIC, Shanthi etc., is far better than Guindy.

In friday nights it will be more horrible as the buses bound for Pondy and coastal dts stops in Gunidy!!

This traffic at Gunidy has cascaded effect on Halda Jn, SP road and even upto Madhya Kailash!

And the subway at Guindy is not much used one by the pedestrains!! Either now they should built a skywalk near Kathipara flyover in Guindy side or they should close the pedestrian walk to cross the mount road.

For the opposite side of the guindy railway station, MTC and other buses must be allowed to enter the road behind the Guindy police station and to go a round about of the police station and reach the GST road again near the "present" bus stop.

the new bus stop should be provided inside that industrial area. so tat the buses can go inside and pick up passengers and come to GST road.
This can greatly clear the people "standing on the road" and the traffic flow will be smooth...

Not only in kathipara! the traffic is very sick in guindy!! instead of taking a max of 2-3 mins to reach the olympia tech park from guindy bridge, it takes 20-25 mins!!

Bottlenecks are
1. Pedestrians occupyin' one lane entirely!:bash: [This accounts for 60% of traffic jams!] - including the crowd waiting for the bus in one lane.
2. Guindy bus stop - it is not organized properly!.. [Major Bottleneck - account for atleast 30% for the congestion]:ohno:
3. Guindy Bridge

Suggestions: [for the Guindy railway station side]
1. Pedestrian corridor and Police personels to book against those who come into the road.
2. Construction of bus terminus like the one in saidapet -- longer terminus for accomodating huge services. The entry for this should not be near the railway station! little far away-- otherwise again the buses will wait to enter the terminus causing traffic jam!
3. Widening of guindy bridge.
Why don't we have a "que" system at all the bus stops in the City.
This arrangement would considerably reduce traffic hold ups near the bus stops.

^^
Govt. can help mandate RTOs to remove all electric horns from vechicles plying inside the City and replace them with those century old rubber bellows.
Why dont we consider vehicle w/o horn.
When we are going to change??

Hi Guys proper lane marking and sign boards will avoid the confusion.
We should also follow lane descipline, to avoid accidents.

Nandanam Junction - near Arts college- should also have a fly over like kathipara Jn.
Does any one have any idea about any such proposal by Chennai Corporation?

Why don't we have a "que" system at all the bus stops in the City.
This arrangement would considerably reduce traffic hold ups near the bus stops.

Queue system is not possible... coz the MTC bus drivers wont wait until the bus infront of him moves! :nuts:

It should be like buses should wait behind until the first one picks up the passengers and leave... then the second one goes and opens the door... and so on..
This discipline can be imposed initially with few officials at the bus stop guiding the passenger to board the bus and the MTC bus drivers should wait until the first bus gets going...
This will happen only if the MTC drivers and the public co-operate!!

^^

Congrats Rasna boy! hmm.... crossed 1000 hits in short period of time!..gud, gud!

You are Complan Boy now.. no more Rasna boy! :lol:

^^Thanks for the compliment, Raj! :)

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Click this link to see the Current condition of the T.Nagar USMAN ROAD flyover

Is this not atrocious? The corporation thinks that its job is over after the flyover is opened for traffic.

http://dkn.dinakaran.com/firstpage.aspx
Click this link to see the Current condition of the T.Nagar USMAN ROAD flyover

Is this not atrocious? The corporation thinks that its job is over after the flyover is opened for traffic.

Guess, you are talking about this one... pic : Dinakaran and Into

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Next time, once you log into Dinakaran, down load the pic and upload the the pics by image shack..


Goodman fyi : check this link..to upload vids and pics

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1262

Guess, you are talking about this one... pic : Dinakaran and Into

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Next time, once you log into Dinakaran, down load the pic and upload the the pics by image shack..


Goodman fyi : check this link..to upload vids and pics

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1262

Wow. the cost of decoration is reduced! :bash:

And Why people are roaming in the middle of the road?!!?!?
When will these people change??

^^This is the Usman Road Flyover, right? Is this the way we project the image of Madras as a global city? :ohno:

It would be better if we have a large notice board sort of thing every 100 meters or so exclusively meant for these posters and other announcements. In this way we could save the exteriors of buildings, compound walls, flyovers, etc.

Traffic starts in Kathipara flyover!!

http://tm.dinakaran.com/15112008/TM_15-11-08_E1_05-01%20CNI.jpg

This report says that due to pedastrians there is a traffic congestion in loops!!:bash:

I would not fully attribute the traffic jam to the pedestrians. There are a few design issues as well. I recently travelled on Kathipara flyover from IRR ( Koyambedu side) towards Poonamalee. Traffic was jammed on the loop (Le Meridian side). The reason was the criss-crossing of traffic below the flyover between the traffic going in the same direction as myself & the traffic going from guindy to IRR (koyambedu). ie taking the southwest loop. This criss crossing is very tricky. Would not be surprised to see a few accidents soon.

Further there is traffic jam below the flyover while going from Poonamalee to Guindy as well. This I think is because of the right turn given for going into Alandur which leads to pile up of traffic .

I had to go to west mambalam area and I used Pondy Bazar Road (Thyagaraya Rd) and Doraiswamy underpass. I was stranded under the flyover for more than 30 mins since pedestrians had to cross the road from South Usman Road side (New Nalli) to North Usman Road side (Lalitha Jewellery side) only by stopping thetraffic going into Doraiswamy road. The no of vehicles is so high since this road connects to Mambalam, Ashok Nagar, KK Nagar etc.

Cant they have a Foot Over Bridge at that point?

On coming back, I took the Doraiswamy underpass and in front of Lalitha Jewellery took right into the road where Nalli old shop is there (Nageswara Road I think). I had to go to Venkatnarayana Road and was totally confused since barricades had been put up to block the vehicles at the junction. There are no sign boards to help the vehicles to direct them which road to take. If there is no right turn, then why allow traffic along this stretch, which was one way earlier (same old arrangement may be continued).

Probably if you want to go to Pondy Bazar or VN Road from Doraiswamy road, you have to go around Panagal park, as it was earlier.

I had to go to west mambalam area and I used Pondy Bazar Road (Thyagaraya Rd) and Doraiswamy underpass. I was stranded under the flyover for more than 30 mins since pedestrians had to cross the road from South Usman Road side (New Nalli) to North Usman Road side (Lalitha Jewellery side) only by stopping thetraffic going into Doraiswamy road. The no of vehicles is so high since this road connects to Mambalam, Ashok Nagar, KK Nagar etc.

Cant they have a Foot Over Bridge at that point?

On coming back, I took the Doraiswamy underpass and in front of Lalitha Jewellery took right into the road where Nalli old shop is there (Nageswara Road I think). I had to go to Venkatnarayana Road and was totally confused since barricades had been put up to block the vehicles at the junction. There are no sign boards to help the vehicles to direct them which road to take. If there is no right turn, then why allow traffic along this stretch, which was one way earlier (same old arrangement may be continued).

Probably if you want to go to Pondy Bazar or VN Road from Doraiswamy road, you have to go around Panagal park, as it was earlier.

Well said Kannan sir!! The problem at this junction has always been the pedestrian crossing across duraisamy road at New Nalli junction. Instead of building a simple FOB which would have cured most of the problems, our great corpn built a costly flyover without solving the problem. These things definetly smell of officials-constructor nexus which build useless flyovers

Kannan... You can drive along Bashyam rd [?], turn right and enter GN rd,Theagaraya rd or Venkatnarayana rd as you please.. Present arrangement ok.No need to go around Panagal park/Prakasam rd.

Kannan... You can drive along Bashyam rd [?], turn right and enter GN rd,Theagaraya rd or Venkatnarayana rd as you please.. Present arrangement ok.No need to go around Panagal park/Prakasam rd.

Taking U Turn near the GN Chetty road (when you come from nageswara Road) side is very difficult during peak hours. buses and bigger vehicles have to go around panagal park, otherwise, they will block the whole traffic.

I request for more aerial photos of the T.Nagar GN Chetty road Flyover from different angles. Can anyone post it for me.

When will the Kathipara flyover be fully complete?. I know most of the lanes have been open, but the place has an unfinished air about it and the side road leading to the airport looks awful.I'm sure even the DR Congo has better roads inspite of all the fighting going on. The entire junction looks pathetic, to say the least!. So much for Indian infrastructure. We maintain our roads just like we maintain our homes!.:lol:

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NOT YET READY: The road overbridge at MIT Gate in Chromepet was completed a couple of years ago. But the pedestrian staircase is being delayed.

CHENNAI: Long after completion of the road overbridge (ROB) at MIT Gate in Chromepet, one of the key objectives behind creating the facility — to prevent pedestrians from walking across the railway tracks — is yet to be achieved.

The reason: the flight of steps and pathway meant for pedestrians on one side of the bridge remain incomplete.

The Rs.26.20-crore ROB to replace the railway level-crossing (LC No. 28) at the MIT Gate was completed in February 2006. It was the first such facility in the southern suburbs of Chennai and taken up as part of the Central and State government’s joint scheme to replace all railway level-crossings in the Chennai Beach-Tambaram section as part of the gauge conversion scheme of 1998-99. The objective was to permanently close down railway level-crossings after replacing them with bridges or subways to avoid trains getting detained near signals and also to prevent pedestrians from walking across the track.

To ensure that pedestrians’ access to areas on either side of the tracks was not affected, staircases were an integral part of the project. Likewise, a flight of steps also formed part of this ROB project. While the staircase was completed on the southern side, it remains incomplete on the northern side owing to issues concerning land acquisition.

Residents of Nehru Nagar, Chromepet, said the reason for the delay in completing the flight of steps on the northern side was the location of a temple, as some of its structure would come in the way of the steps.

The temple authorities told The Hindu they had agreed to “trim down” a couple of minor structures on the walls of the temple premises so that the pedestrian pathway parallel to the elevated carriageway could be extended and then the flight of steps leading to the surface could be built.

Pallavaram Municipal Chairman E. Karunanidhi said the matter was long pending and they had revived proposals on resuming work on the incomplete portion. There would be a positive development in about three months, he added. If the steps were completed, Southern Railway could even build a permanent concrete wall to prevent people from walking across the track, he added.

Though one flight of steps is operational, several thousands of pedestrians heading to Chromepet and Hasthinapuram prefer to walk across the track everyday, risking their lives. Last week, a 56-year-old man died on the spot when a speeding train hit him while he was crossing the track. The victim, Venkatesan, a resident of Kunrathur, was a conductor with the Metropolitan Transport Corporation.

http://www.hindu.com/2008/11/26/stories/2008112655620600.htm

http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/9617/dn261108e1020120cnivg2.jpg

^^When are they opening it finally? Previously it was said that the flyover will be inaugurated on November 15...

Thank god atleast the flyover has been thrown open or trafic before inauguration, much to the relief of the Alindur and Velachery residents.
Alandur remains one of the most suffering municipalities when it rains cutting off three important links of Mount subway, Thillai Ganga Nagar subway and the Pazhavanthavgal subway. People used to take detour via the Meenambakkam level crossing or the now defunct level crossing between St.Thomas Mount railway station and the Guindy Railway station. Building of vehicular subways need to be supported by a proper drainiage system to prevent water-logging.

But i dunno how long will this flyover go in solving the problems of the locals.

The sharp curve on the bridge looks very scary to me. I think it takes two way traffic, which make its even more scary. May be its just me thinking like that, because of the angle in which the photo was taken.

The sharp curve on the bridge looks very scary to me. I think it takes two way traffic, which make its even more scary. May be its just me thinking like that, because of the angle in which the photo was taken.

Its not just you. You can count me in for sure.

The camera has been focussed in such a way to get a wide angle to cover the entire length of the flyover. I saw the area in google earth and the turn is less than 90 degree and is also smooth enough

Looking at the current traffic scenario, the Arterial roads of Anna salai, Poonamalle High Road, IRR, Mount Poonamallee Road, R.K.Mutt Road would require a no of flyovers in the near future. Here is a list of possible junctions where flyovers might be required.

ANNA SALAI
1. T.Nagar Usman Road Jn.(one way flyover on saidapet - nandanam route)
2. Nandanam Jn.(two way flyover on the anna salai wing)
3. Cenotaph Rd Jn.(one way flyover on Teynampet - Nandanam route)
4. Teynampet Jn.(two way flyover on the anna salai wing)
5. Peters Rd Jn(one way flyover on Hindu - Gemini Flyover route)
6. Spencer Plaza Jn.(two way flyover on the anna salai wing)
7. Tarapore Towers Jn(two way flyover on the anna salai wing)
8.Wallajah Rd Jn.(one way flyover on Hindu - Gemini Flyover route)

I suggest a two way flyover at Spencer Plaza Jn though it is a T- junction because of the high traffic density and Pattulos Rd coming very close to the Jn.

R.K.Mutt Rd

As the road width is very small in the mylapore mandaiveli region an elevated motorway starting from Viveks above Luz, MRTS, Mylapore Mandaiveli and end near the R.K. nagar telephone exchange would put an end to the traffic problems.

IRR
1. Thiru.V.Ka. Industrial Estate
2. Ashok Pillar Jn
3. Arcot Rd Jn
4. C.M.B.T Jn
5. Thirumangalam Jn.

Poonamalle High Road
1. Dr. Nair Rd Jn
2. CMDA flyover jn
3. Ega Theatre Jn
4. An elevated stretch from Ampa Mall crossing Nelson Manickam Rd, Anna Arch and the coming down.

^^Thiru.V.Ka Estate-IRR junction could be ruled out as we have the main arm of Katthipara starting there.

^^ yeah actually i was thinking of the Olympia Tech Park signal. It is right at the end of the main span of the Kathipara Interchange(happy to call so) . If the there is a signal there then we will have a rippling effect that will go all the way to the Little Mount jn on one side and OTA on the other.

Traffic at Kathipara since most of the subways in Beach-Guindy suburban line is submerged in flood water

It looks Chennai is also car only city.

http://dkn.dinakaran.co.in/29112008/DN_29-11-08_E1_14-01%20CNI.jpg

dinakaran

feels sickening...we badly need the metro in time!!!

^^

Nearly 6-7 lane traffic is merging to 3 lane traffic in that picture.

Can any one tell how is the traffic in these lanes during peak hours normal working day?

^^
WTF? What's the point of the interchange when the feeder roads and exit routes are not upgraded to take the volume. Subways can't take heavy rains; our drainage system is bad. It's the same everywhere.

The bus stop in front of the Guindy Suburban station is a mess. Look at the pedestrians walking on the ramp of the flyover to the airport. What happened to the pedestrian subways? We desperately need wholesome and long term traffic management solutions. Not some shitty 'mini-flyover' to move traffic from one intersection to another.

I HATE the term 'mini-flyover'! Mini-idli, mini-dosa, mini-tiffin, mini-flyover ... GRRR!!

One of the solutions to this traffic problem is mutiple level roads.
They can't expand those roads and chennai even has some of the widest roads in India.
Therefore, multi-level roads can be built for thru traffic. It's similar to having a flyover except there is completely another level of road.
In many countries they have this. Here's an example in tokyo:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/49/130342213_1376449da6.jpg?v=1157803517
Copyright Stefan.
Now this is one of the main reasons I support underground metro. :cheers:

rest assured, the above will be in chennai by 2090 atleast :-P

Somdatt Simplex is doing the Koyambedu Flyover and widening of the Koyambedu - Maduravoyal stretch at a really slow pace. One would have expected them to speed up things at least after they have finished Kathipara since they can redeploy personnel - But no such luck.

The widening of the Koyambedu - Maduravoyal stretch is the most killing for Chennai residents since it effectively blocks one entry into the city. In fact the entry into Chennai is being held ransom to the lethargic attitude of the contractor. For the past 3 days vehicles are taking 2 to 3 hours to cover this distance of 4 kms. ( there is no waterlogging in this stretch) & there seems to be no action on the part of the contractor to speed up things.

One really wonders why the widening of road had to wait for Vijaykanth's Kalyana Mandapam to be demolished ( though both flyover & widening were part of the same contract).

Really hope the contractor wakes up - else entering Chennai along Poonamalee high road will continue to be a nightmare.

^^ yeah that stretch of road is seriously awful... and the worst part is it's been that way for years now... it's one of the main entry points into the city - makes a terrible first impression on out-of-towners entering city.. and of course makes daily life hell for commuters...

:(

http://www.chennaionline.com/cityfeature/Flyover.aspx

Check the link

http://www.maalaimalar.com/asp/News/dis_news_article.asp?artid=302281

http://www.chennaionline.com/cityfeature/Flyover.aspx

Like the Paint job on the flyover. It has an excellent finish.
But they need to do something about the "peak" where all of a sudden you start going down.
If you go fast enough you can fly off the road (not the flyover necessarily). But I guess that's why it's called a "fly"over. :)

Is it like this everyday at Kathipara?

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/484/kathitrfficwq1.jpg

^^I guess its during the rainy season because the roads leading to the junction are not upto mark and get flooded.

I feel sorry for the college students because they have to go home and do their HW and study. But atleast they have others to talk with on the bus.
I also feel sorry for the workers because they have to get stuck in boredom, but atleast as soon as they get home, they can relax a bit......before checking e-mails from their work!

Check the link

http://www.maalaimalar.com/asp/News/dis_news_article.asp?artid=302281

Additional Info.

Another flyover in T Nagar ready

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CHENNAI: Chief Minister M Karunanidhi will inaugurate the flyover being constructed at Gopathy Narayana Road and Tirumalai Road intersection on December 29, Local Administration Minister M K Stalin has said.

Speaking to reporters after inspecting the ongoing construction works on Tuesday, Stalin said that the flyover, constructed at a cost of Rs 16.5 crore, would ease traffic congestion in T Nagar to a considerable extent and road-users from Thousand Lights, T Nagar, Nungambakkam and Teynampet would benefit a lot.

The construction works for the flyover began in September 2007 and it is wide enough to allow two-way traffic, Stalin said. It has been raised on 24 pillars, 505 metres in length and 15 metres in width.

Briefing about the other ongoing projects in the city, Stalin said, “Projects including Alandur Road Bridge, Jones Road Subway, the vehicular subway at Maniakkara Chathira Street near Stanley Hospital will be completed by May 2009 and the bridge at Perambur will be ready by December 2009.” He also said that similar projects for constructing flyovers/ bridges at Villivakkam and Korukkupet are progressing well and are expected to be completed on time.

Speaking about the flooding on city roads during the recent rains, Stalin said that much of the flooding was caused due to the release of excessive water from Porur, Chembarambakkam and Puzhal lakes.

http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?Title=Another+flyover+in+T+Nagar+ready&artid=JoqaYj1Uq0o=&SectionID=lifojHIWDUU=&MainSectionID=wIcBMLGbUJI=&SectionName=rSY|6QYp3kQ=&SEO=

This picture seems odd. There is some hillock at the background, how come ??

^^Yup. That photo should have been taken from a different angle. Here's the article from The Hindu...

G.N. Chetty Road flyover opening on December 29

http://www.hindu.com/2008/12/10/images/2008121057810101.jpg
STATUS CHECK: Local Administration Minister M.K. Stalin inspecting the flyover at the G.N. Chetty Road-Thirumalai Pillai Road junction in T. Nagar on Tuesday.

Chennai: Chief Minister M. Karunanidhi will inaugurate the flyover on the G.N. Chetty Road–Thirumalai Pillai Road junction at T. Nagar on December 29.

Local Administration Minister M.K.Stalin made the announcement after inspecting the final stages of the construction on Tuesday. He said the flyover, costing Rs.16.5 crore, would ease congestion at the busy junction and benefit the surrounding localities including T. Nagar, Thousand Lights, Teynampet and Nungambakkam.

The flyover, which will allow two-way traffic, is 505 metres long and 15 metres wide.

It is supported by 24 pillars. Mr. Stalin directed Corporation officials to ensure that adequate footpath space is provided along service lanes under the flyover.

The Minister said the elevated bridge to replace the Alandur causeway, the vehicular subway near Stanley Government Hospital and the Jones Road subway would be ready by May next.

The Rangarajapuram road overbridge, estimated to cost Rs. 15.75 crore, and the Perambur flyover, estimated to cost Rs. 51 crore, would be completed in December next.

Projects such as the Kathivakkam road overbridge (Rs. 12.20 crore), the Villivakkam road under bridge (Rs. 13.40 crore) and the Korukkupet road under bridge (Rs. 6.28 crore) were in various stages of progress.

Mr. Stalin told reporters that the flooding in the city during the recent rain was due to water overflowing from Puzhal, Chembarambakkam and Porur tanks. This factor had been taken into consideration in a comprehensive plan for flood alleviation in the city.

The proposal, with an outlay of Rs. 1,538 crore, was submitted to the Centre for assistance under the Jawaharlal Nehru National Urban Renewal Mission, he said.

Source: http://www.hindu.com/2008/12/10/stories/2008121057810100.htm

This picture seems odd. There is some hillock at the background, how come ??

i think i can safely say that that pic is not of chennai at all

i think i can safely say that that pic is not of chennai at all

I agree. That cannot be TNagar or Chennai. The bridge and the hill does not gel together.

i think i can safely say that that pic is not of chennai at all

it is not t nagar definitely. but alandur perhaps? chennai southern suburbs have hillocks.