great to see where every corner of the Chennai road looks very clean...:)

great to see where every corner of the Chennai road looks very clean...:) You are kidding aren't you? the biggest problem with chennai is the litter all around. And the solution lies with each and every one of us. Let us *individually* take a vow

1. not to litter, spit, urinate on roads.
2. to follow traffic rules

And advise our friends and relatives the same. Only then we can be a global city, no use complaining or blaming others. We have got the power to change

You are kidding aren't you? the biggest problem with chennai is the litter all around. And the solution lies with each and every one of us. Let us *individually* take a vow

1. not to litter, spit, urinate on roads.
2. to follow traffic rules

And advise our friends and relatives the same. Only then we can be a global city, no use complaining or blaming others. We have got the power to change

100% true, litter is the main problem in Chennai and we don't have enough mechanised machines to clean it up like other cities do. I wont say other cities are litter free, they also have but compared to us less...
So who is going to be the eye opener to our authorties from this thread...if possible.

100% true, litter is the main problem in Chennai and we don't have enough mechanised machines to clean it up like other cities do. I wont say other cities are litter free, they also have but compared to us less...
So who is going to be the eye opener to our authorties from this thread...if possible.

If I remember correctly, a study conducted 2 years ago determined that Chennai was the cleanest metro and the 2nd cleanest state capital (after Chandigarh). I don't know if that's true any more, but it really says a lot about what the survey thought of the other cities.

100% true, litter is the main problem in Chennai and we don't have enough mechanised machines to clean it up like other cities do. I wont say other cities are litter free, they also have but compared to us less...
So who is going to be the eye opener to our authorties from this thread...if possible.

i saw the tender for procuring cleaning machines in TN gov website last month

dost compare to other part of India, I think Chennai is far better than other cities because, I use to travel in Mumbai local trains where you can't even stand at the food board because people of North Indians spitting at the platform and people from front compartment will be spitting thambakku and chewing ghum tobacco without thinking (all people behind that compartment who ever stand at food board and sitting in the window side will get free thambakku and chewing gum in the moving train) ... and also realized if i go the railway station and look at the stone at the train track, the stone are become Red color instead of its own color, because all spitter... I think this kind of problem I couldn't find out there in Chennai while I went to my Native place via Chennai stayed there for a week along with my friends...:)

^^

Just to reiterate the point, other cities in India are not and should not be our benchmark if we are planning to go global. This is the problem with most Indian mindset, we are happy if we are better than some other person we know. What is the first thing we do when there is a power cut? Ask the opposite household if they also have a power cut, only then we are happy. We never think that there shouldn't be any power cuts at all. In my opinion Indians are the most self-centered people who are not concerned abt their fellow "Indians", but for us guests are gods "Athidhi Devo Bhava" :bash:

i saw the tender for procuring cleaning machines in TN gov website last month

That is only for 5 machines, I guess....considering the vastness of Chennai is it enough!!!!!! (they will use it to clean only VVIP/VIP areas - :bash:)

And advise our friends and relatives the same. Only then we can be a global city, no use complaining or blaming others. We have got the power to change
^^

True, But we should focus on next generation. It will be easier to focus kids than elders who use to it as habit. And we should mention that those elders are not right and you should build the nation. If We start this at the 4th or 5th Grad we would see the difference after 10 years. but a strong change.

^^

Yes, agreed. "inivarum kaalam ilaignargal kaalam" so even we ( hope you are also "youth" :) ) have the responsibility

^^

Just to reiterate the point, other cities in India are not and should not be our benchmark if we are planning to go global. This is the problem with most Indian mindset, we are happy if we are better than some other person we know. What is the first thing we do when there is a power cut? Ask the opposite household if they also have a power cut, only then we are happy. We never think that there shouldn't be any power cuts at all. In my opinion Indians are the most self-centered people who are not concerned abt their fellow "Indians", but for us guests are gods "Athidhi Devo Bhava" :bash:
Exactly.Chennai has close connections with singapore on account of many tamils living there and therefore SINGAPORE shud be the benchmark.

^^

Yes, agreed. "inivarum kaalam ilaignargal kaalam" so even we ( hope you are also "youth" :) ) have the responsibility

^^
Agreed, I have a plan to discuss with few of the teachers to take it forward.

Exactly.Chennai has close connections with singapore on account of many tamils living there and therefore SINGAPORE shud be the benchmark.

Not only tamils, the climatic conditions of Singapore is exactly same as Chennai. Humid and hot. So I learnt a lesson that Climatic conditions cannot be a drawback for a city's development. Upkeep of the city, clean environment & proper utlisation of available resources are the ones which plays a important role in development.

like prasanna said, do not set benchmarks on a particular city, not even singapore. Chennai is unique in itself and has different needs.

You don't want Chennai as Chennai even after 50years from now. You want San Antonio or London or Singapore here. I don't want. We just need the infrastructure, self discipline and self respect, education and well maintained places. Thats all!

like prasanna said, do not set benchmarks on a particular city, not even singapore. Chennai is unique in itself and has different needs.
Benchmarks/role models are necessary otherwise u grope in darkness.Tell me what is so unique about Chennai.Is it sakadais,stink,overflowing kuppathottis illegal encroachments, paths where you cannot lay your feet ,unruly traffic u want to perpetuate.

^^

ranga, you have misinterpreted my statement. Role models are necessary but a photocopy of Singapore isn't what Chennai needs. Chennai needs drainage system like KL, garbage cleaning system like Singapore and skyline like Paris. Thats what I meant, not a particular city.

Benchmarks/role models are necessary otherwise u grope in darkness.Tell me what is so unique about Chennai.Is it sakadais,stink,overflowing kuppathottis illegal encroachments, paths where you cannot lay your feet ,unruly traffic u want to perpetuate.
No these are not unique in Chennai. It is very very common in all Indian Cities.
Uniqueness is that Chennai maintains its old charm even today. What you have seen 20years back, you can see the samething even today (this holds up the list you have given too). Chennai has not been costlier all these days, even today it is affordable for a common-man. Best example is the bus fares(leave alone the new AC Volvo buses which is not even 2% of the overall buses). When in all the cities the tickets skyrocketted He resisted to change and increased the minimal.
He is changing but in pace with Tortoise. I don't want to bring in other cities as you may know about them.

Not the least, He must be the only (unique) metro where you see 80% (or even more) of the girls coming to shopping malls and multiplexes in Chudidhar or Sarees or decent Jeans T-shirt.

Originally Posted by ranga
Benchmarks/role models are necessary otherwise u grope in darkness.Tell me what is so unique about Chennai.Is it sakadais,stink,overflowing kuppathottis illegal encroachments, paths where you cannot lay your feet ,unruly traffic u want to perpetuate.

mr.ranga are you a Tamilian, your words are in tamil meaning. Can I ask you something, why don't you come up with some good Idea to overcome such kind of problems in Chennai by giving some valuable Information....

and its shame on you if you are a Tamilian, being a Tamilian you are degrading Chennai rather than promoting and giving boost to Chennai...and Chennai people

Please come up some good Idea but don't say that these things are not possible in Chennai...and Chennai people:ohno:

^^ I dont think one needs to be a Tamilian to talk about the positives and negatives about Chennai. Every resident of Chennai irrespective of class, language, sex, religion and whatever barrier that you can think of is a stakeholder of the city. So Ranga has all the rights to express what he wants and I really dont like the point that being a Tamil he should not criticise the current state of Chennai. Even am a pakka Tamizhan and born and bred in chennai..I just love my city to the core, but sometimes got to accept the reality...nothing wrong in it

mr.ranga are you a Tamilian, your words are in tamil meaning. Can I ask you something, why don't you come up with some good Idea to overcome such kind of problems in Chennai by giving some valuable Information....

and its shame on you if you are a Tamilian, being a Tamilian you are degrading Chennai rather than promoting and giving boost to Chennai...and Chennai people

Please come up some good Idea but don't say that these things are not possible in Chennai...and Chennai people:ohno:

Can you come up with a concrete reason on why Mr. Ranga should not voice his opinion about the current state of chennai in an open forum like this.
In fact he gave a suggestion also.

If one is not honest about the problem and care to fix it, the problem does not go away . It stays just there and very soon it will become a monster.

^^ I dont think one needs to be a Tamilian to talk about the positives and negatives about Chennai. Every resident of Chennai irrespective of class, language, sex, religion and whatever barrier that you can think of is a stakeholder of the city. So Ranga has all the rights to express what he wants and I really dont like the point that being a Tamil he should not criticise the current state of Chennai. Even am a pakka Tamizhan and born and bred in chennai..I just love my city to the core, but sometimes got to accept the reality...nothing wrong in it

Exactly!
In fact I prefer Ranga's posts containing a dose of reality rather than chest thumping hyperbolic ones with no sense of reality of outside world.

Exactly!
In fact I prefer Ranga's posts containing a dose of reality rather than chest thumping hyperbolic ones with no sense of reality of outside world.

Its seldom criticism thats the issue .. but it is the 'constructive' part thats lacking. We will all be stating the very obvious if we only laydown a dose of 'reality bites' gripes. Who does'nt know what Chennai has/is !? We all know where it stinks, why it stinks. Once in a while, thats OK. But what we need predominantly are the solutions or ideas to make things better. Even if its conching the deaf, we need to speak about the tiny little things that can make our milieu better.

For example,

Instead of saying,

"The pavement and the filthy stuff and its encroachment sucks, "

You could say,

"We really need to adopt a pavement, even if its just for a furlong ... instead of selling/buying resorts where we seldom visit, we could own a 'share' in the pavement we daily tumble and fumble. "

Advices are dime a dozen. Thats not what I mean here. I mean solutions for a Singara Chennai.

Its seldom criticism thats the issue .. but it is the 'constructive' part thats lacking. We will all be stating the very obvious if we only laydown a dose of 'reality bites' gripes. Who does'nt know what Chennai has/is !? We all know where it stinks, why it stinks. Once in a while, thats OK. But what we need predominantly are the solutions or ideas to make things better. Even if its conching the deaf, we need to speak about the tiny little things that can make our milieu better.

For example,

Instead of saying,

"The pavement and the filthy stuff and its encroachment sucks, "

You could say,

"We really need to adopt a pavement, even if its just for a furlong ... instead of selling/buying resorts where we seldom visit, we could own a 'share' in the pavement we daily tumble and fumble. "

Advices are dime a dozen. Thats not what I mean here. I mean solutions for a Singara Chennai.
Good post Ramvardan! I am all ears for your solutions and what have you done for Singara Chennai.

Okay guys lets think out of box to get chennai where it should in next 25 yrs.

1. Declare T.Nagar the business district (west mambalam, cit nagar, nungambakkam included), build just 3 massive business complexes to house all the major business in these areas with half a dozen parks and 3 massive residential skyscrapers to house the residents with garage parking spaces.
2. Declare all areas after the gemini fly over toward the paris corner as Administrative district to house all the minieterial, secretarial, deparmental offices and their residential complexes.
3.Likewise make educational, entertainment, health, trading,retailing etc and every district to have a mayor/collector/administrator to have complete control over things.
4.In all these districts there should be no individual houses only skyscrapers with apartments to accommodate residents and lots land is left vacant as parks and grow lots of trees.
5.Desalinations plants to supply drinking water 24 hours, here I am talking about really massive plants with scale, (e.g: say kodangulam atomic power station when completed would give 10,000 MW power, the whole power should be used for desalination) and semi-desalinated water to be used to create artificial river system that cleanses the existing clogged waterways and make new waterways also for local transportation.
6. Under ground metro to be at least 5 times bigger than the one currently planned and being executed.
7. Only shipping, auto and IT industry to be encouraged in and around the city the rest all to be moved to west,central and southern parts of TN.
8. 24/7 police, medical emergency, transport etc services to be made available.

Please move the discussions to some other thread.

:bash::bash::bash:
guys this is flyovers thread and not singara chennai or asinga chennai plz move ur discussions to tn chaibar

:bash::bash::bash:
guys this is flyovers thread and not singara chennai or asinga chennai plz move ur discussions to tn chaibar


I agree . It has been disappointing reading the stuff in this thread over the last few days. Most discussions have nothing to do with flyovers.

Kathipara Interchange from Anna Salai to Airport:

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^^

Simple things yet to be done for the flyover. This is the entry point to the core city, so beautification is needed to make the first impression as best one.

1. Clear lane marking with no sands!
2. Big sign boards (still small one is there)
3. Simple map near the entry to flyover showing the IRR with main arterial roads intersections (so many names!! 100 feet road, JN road, IRR.. let it be IRR)
4. More lights
5. Proper walkway on either side of the roads near to Interchange.

Thiruvanmiyur flyover project delayed (http://www.hindu.com/2009/10/19/stories/2009101957590200.htm)

R. Srikanth

Huge cost of land acquisition is the main reason; residents fear project will be put on hold
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— Photo: M.Karunakaran

Waiting for relief: The proposed flyover and underpass project is expected to ease traffic congestion at Thiruvanmiyur junction.

CHENNAI: The much-awaited flyover and underpass project at the Lattice Bridge Road (L.B. Road)-Thiruvalluvar Salai-West Avenue Road junction in Thiruvanmiyur to ease traffic congestion is getting delayed because of the huge cost involved in acquisition of land. Residents fear that the project would be shelved.

A senior official of the Chennai Corporation, however, refuted talks about the project unlikely to take off. But he admitted that cost of land acquisition for the project was proving to be a big challenge.

While the construction cost of the flyover and the underpass was Rs.33.76 crore, that of land acquisition was estimated to be more than twice that amount, at Rs.77.01 crore.
DPR completed in October last

A Detailed Project Report (DPR) for the project had been completed by Wilbur Smith Associates in October last year.

The civic agency was exploring the option of using the Transfer of Development Rights (TDR) for acquiring the lands necessary to bring down the cost. Though modalities for using the TDR for such infrastructure development were yet to be worked out, it proposes to initiate talks with Chennai Metropolitan Development Authority (CMDA) on this subject shortly. The TDR had been successfully used for infrastructure development in Hyderabad, thereby reducing the cost on land acquisition, the official added.
Timeframe

Senior officials of the Corporation were not willing to commit on a timeframe for launch of the construction work of the project.

The DPR suggests a four-lane flyover on L.B. Road and a four-lane underpass linking East Coast Road with Rajiv Gandhi Salai (erstwhile Old Mahabalipuram Road).

The underpass would start at Thiruvalluvar Salai and end at West Avenue Road and have a width of around 60 feet.

Various issues concerning the flyover and the underpass, including the environmental impact, social impact, extent of land to be acquired, construction methodology, structural design and traffic detour plans, have been detailed in the report.

The project is one of the four proposed flyovers announced by Deputy Chief Minister M.K. Stalin in 2007. Meanwhile, changes in vehicular movement, introduced by the traffic police earlier this month to ease congestion at the Thiruvanmiyur junction, had only made marginal improvement.

Suresh Chandra Menon, a resident of Adyar, said that the traffic arrangements had eased movement of vehicles coming from Adyar and bound for East Coast Road. But there is little change in the congestion at the Thiruvanmiyur signal as a result of heavy traffic from East Coast Road.

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CHENNAI: A grade separator, constructed at the intersection of Pallavaram-Thoraipakkam Radial Road and Velachery Main Road, has been completed and is expected to be dedicated in the first week of November.

The project was taken up under the Chennai Metropolitan Development Programme of the State Highways Department and executed by its Projects Division. The bridge span from the Pallikaranai side till the Velachery side is 650 metres. The width is 22 metres with a 1.2-metre-wide median. Once thrown open to traffic, the six-lane facility is expected to put a permanent end to traffic bottlenecks on this stretch.

Officials of the Highways Department said that when original estimates were prepared, the project cost was around Rs.14 crore, but after revisions, it worked out to Rs.21 crore. However, they had spent only around Rs.19 crore, saving up a precious Rs.2 crore for the exchequer. The saving was possible as the Highways Department did not face problems in the form of land acquisition or encroachment eviction and other contingencies.

On commissioning, motorists bound for Velachery and Tambaram can get past the intersection in much less time than now over the bridge.

Vehicles from Pallavaram towards Thoraipakkam and Tambaram, from Velachery to Pallavaram, from Thoraipakkam towards Pallavaram and Velachery and from Tambaram to Thoraipakkam would have to travel underneath the bridge.

Though vehicles would continue to converge at the intersection, the bulk of traffic would be travelling over the grade separator, officials said. With little policing, traffic flow would be smooth at this point.

The facility was scheduled for completion in March this year. But the major portion of the bridge was completed only last month.

The project suffered a delay of six months due to soil-related problems near the Pallikaranai marshland. Officials pointed out that a road overbridge under at the intersection of Pallavaram – Thoraipakkam Radial Road and Grand Southern Trunk was in progress and once completed in June next year, it would improve connectivity between Rajiv Gandhi Salai (IT Corridor) and the airport.

source (http://www.hindu.com/2009/10/20/stories/2009102058820300.htm)

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Pallikaranai flyover is sure a relief...

But the most important junction is the vijayanagar junction and the real traffic pile up is happening here.... It takes almost 20 mins to cross this junction and there are no plans of building any grade separator here... :ohno:

Koyambedu junction new flyover u/c is going very slow....

My question is why the TN government is giving very much interest to Tamilnadu Legislative Assembly building. but not for this flyover...?

http://epaper.dinamalar.com/DM/DINAMALAR/2009/10/20/photographs/001/20_10_2009_001_008_001.jpg

^^ The above comes under NHAI , not state government, if I am correct.

Pallikaranai Flyover Inauguration next month:

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Dinakaran

Next month first week Turn bulls flyover opening

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Dinakaran

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source: dinamalar

nice post thanks for the image...

One more flyover proposal in T nagar between Burkit Road and Madley Road.

source : Tamil Murasu e-paper

^^ It is flyover season for Chennai.

^^ The above comes under NHAI , not state government, if I am correct.

So What? Why not elected MPs from chennai is not putting pressure to complete the project? Didn't their election manifesto had those as achievement?

Oh I realize now, TN assembly election is one year away... if they finish the project now then (common) people will forget about their manifesto.

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It will reduce travel time for commuters to and from north Chennai

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TAKING SHAPE: Work apace on the Perambur flyover.

CHENNAI: The Perambur flyover project, one of the long-pending infrastructure projects in the city, is expected to be commissioned by the end of January next year.

The Chennai Corporation project, on implementation, will be a crucial link reducing the travel time for thousands of people who commute to and from north Chennai localities.

Though work on the construction of the Perambur flyover began in 1999, it was stopped a year later due to problems of weak sub-soil. A different design was then tried, but even that did not help.

As Chennai city is categorised under Seismic Zone III and no hard rock could be found till the depth of 40 metres, the soil was tested again and a fresh design was drawn up by experts of Anna University. The work order was issued in May 2008 to IVRCL Infrastructures and Projects Ltd. and work commenced in December 2008.

Speaking at a function to distribute free colour television sets in Ganesapuram on Thursday, Mayor M.Subramanian, said work on the Rs.51-crore flyover was progressing fast and that it would be completed by January-end.

The civic body had planned to inaugurate the flyover by March.

Officials of the Chennai Corporation said that of the 31 spans of the flyover, 23 have been completed. The filling of the base portion in the three ramps has been completed and bituminous macadam laid in two approach ramps.

The service roads are being laid. The tender has been floated for developing a park.

In the railway portion of the flyover, which is the crucial part of the facility, the foundation and piers have been completed by the Corporation under the supervision of the Southern Railway.

The deck slab, which is the superstructure, is yet to be completed, said officials.

Mr. Subramanian added that the State government had given an administrative sanction for the construction of a flyover in Ganesapuram at a cost of Rs.61 crore. A total of 48 grounds at an estimated cost of Rs.20 crore were needed for the construction.

As a first step, Rs.13 crore had been deposited with the Chennai Collectorate for the same, he added.

Source: http://www.hindu.com/2009/10/23/stories/2009102359060300.htm

In last two pages, we have good updates on the flyover projects in Chennai.
This thread is really active :) and colorful.

Just curious to see the updates from South Chennai (Pallavaram and Tambaram)

Guys any updates on these projects?

CHENNAI
A road over bridge (ROB) to connect Zamin Pallavaram and the GST Road is hanging fire due to the non-completion of the superstructure work by the Southern Railway

The civil work to replace the level crossing at Pallavaram began in 2003 at an estimated cost of Rs 14 crore. The State Highways was the executing authority and the railway took the job of building the support and superstructures in its portion over the train tracks.

The project assumes significance as it connects several suburban localities around Zamin Pallavaram as far as up to Keelkattalai, which is close to Madipakkam on the one side with the GST Road at Pallavaram on the other.

Over the years, Zamin Pallavaram, the argah Road and stretch up to Keelkattalai, has grown phenomenally with mushrooming of ap*artm*ent complexes. Such an important project, aimed at providing better connectivity for dozens of neighbourhoods is yet to see the light.

Land acquisition proceedings, shifting of service utilities took a considerable time. Since significant portions of the land needed for the plan belonged to the defence (5827 sq mt) and railways (13,000 sq mt), the time taken to get the Union ministries’ approval dragged the project further up to 2007.

Soon after the go-ahead, the State Highways started work and has now completed 611 m of civil work. The railway too completed the support structure work on its portion. But, the crucial work of building the 71-m super structure over the railway line and joining it with the already completed portion is yet to be done.

When asked, a railway official said the work would begin by December and hoped to finish it within six months.

On the delay, he said: “We cannot give speed restriction (needed to do construction) at the same time to all the workspots.” Sources said delay was also due to contr*actors who dragged the project by citing cost escalation.
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Source : NewIndpress.com

WORK GOING ON IN FULL SWING, BUT MONSOON SHOWERS LIKELY TO DELAY PROJECT BY A MONTH "We expect the I works to be compl eted by March 2010.

If the approaching monsoon hampers the work, it might get delayed by a month or so."
NHAI Official (http://www.dc-epaper.com/DC/DCC/2009/10/22/ArticleHtmls/22_10_2009_005_006.shtml?Mode=0)

Running two-anda-half years behind schedule, work on the construction of the Koyambedu grade separator is expected to be completed by March next year.According to a senior NHAI official, the works, initially marred by land acquisition problems, are on in full swing. (good, 2.5 yrs behing schedule)

"We expect the works to be completed by March 2010. If the approaching north-east monsoon hampers the progress of the work, it might get delayed by a month or so," the official told this newspaper.
"We have completed 90 per cent of the piling works. We have begun super structure works," he added. The Koyambedu grade separator was one among the projects envisaged by NHAI to improve access to the Golden Quadrilateral in 2005. Though the works on the grade separators at Kathipara and Padi junctions and a flyover in front of Chennai airport were completed and thrown open to the public, the Koyambedu grade separator was delayed due to problems in land acquisition.

The delay was mainly due to a court case filed by Ms V. Premalatha, wife of Desiya Murpokku Dravida Kazhagam (DMDK) founder Vijayakanth, challenging the demolition of the wedding hall owned by her. However, the Madras high court directed that the Andal Azhagar Kalyana Mandapam be handed over for demolition. The Supreme Court, too, stood by the order.

Once the grade separator at Koyambedu junction is completed, it would ease traffic congestion on the national highway. As far as widening of the Koyambedu*Mudravoyal stretch of National Highway 4 is concerned, the official said NHAI has speeded up the work.

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Source (http://epaper.dinamalar.com/DM/DINAMALAR/2009/10/23/ArticleHtmls/23_10_2009_101_003.shtml?Mode=1)

I really appreciate TN government for taking necessary steps like constructing flyover to overcome traffic problems and cleaning marina beach to beautificate... once they done all these things they totally forgot to maintain all these things; hope they soon resolve this... first of all they need to something in Kathipara flyover otherwise the flyover gets damaged by nearby society people...

The flow of traffic at the Arcot Road-100 ft Road junction in Vadapalani, one of the most congested in the city, is soon expected to
ease considerably. Thanks to a Rs 40-crore flyover to be built jointly by the State Highways department and the Chennai Metro Rail Limited (CMRL) along the 100 ft Road at the junction.

According to official sources, a recent meeting between officials of the highways department and CMRL decided to build the structure below the elevated portion to be constructed for metro rail. CMRL is now working on the design.

"Once the CMRL completes the designing, the highways deparment will be asked to go in for land acquisition which will not be a difficult task since the 100 ft road is broad enough to accommodate the flyover. We hope the construction of the flyover can begin within six months,'' sources said. The flyover is expected to be completed in 18 months from the date of commencement of construction.

The project was originally sanctioned by the State government four years ago itself and about Rs 25 crore was also allotted. But nothing much had happened in the first couple of years and later the project was kept in abeyance in view of the finalisation of metro rail alignment.

Many motorists welcomed the move and said construction shoul;d not be delayed.

"The traffic police have already prohibited a right turn at the junction for vehicles going from Koyambedu towards Vadapalani and made a part of Arcot Road towards Kodambakkam from the junction a one-way stretch. Also, the police are diverting vehicles going to Vadapalani from Ashok Nagar through an interior road without touching the junction. It still takes at least 20 minutes to cross the junction during peak hours,'' said Gajendran, a motorist.

According to a traffic study by the highways department last year, the 100 ft Road daily witnesses the movement of over 1.30 lakh vehicles 15,000 lorries and trucks, 80,000 two-wheelers and hundreds of government buses to and from Koyambedu. About 70,000 slow-moving vehicles, including cycles, handcarts, bullock carts, cycle rickshaws and tricycles, also use the state highway daily.

"While Arcot Road is already too narrow and accident-prone, two bus stops situated near the junction one for those going towards Ashok Nagar and another for those towards Koyambedu further affect traffic flow. This apart, there is another signal near Ashok Nagar side, just half-a-km from the junction. With vehicles getting lined up on Arcot Road and also on the 100 ft Road, even pedestrian find crossing the road difficult. A flyover here is definitely an urgent need,'' said Vijayalakshmi of Vadapalani.


Source: TOI (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/Flyover-planned-at-Arcot-Rd-jn-to-ease-traffic-congestion-/articleshow/5154737.cms)

"Once the CMRL completes the designing, the highways deparment will be asked to go in for land acquisition which will not be a difficult task since the 100 ft road is broad enough to accommodate the flyover. We hope the construction of the flyover can begin within six months,'' sources said. The flyover is expected to be completed in 18 months from the date of commencement of construction.


Does this mean thay the flyover will come up right at the 100 feet road?? Wont it be perpedicular to 100 feet road like the one cuttin RK salai at mylapore - Royappetah junction ?

The flow of traffic at the Arcot Road-100 ft Road junction in Vadapalani, one of the most congested in the city, is soon expected to
ease considerably. Thanks to a Rs 40-crore flyover to be built jointly by the State Highways department and the Chennai Metro Rail Limited (CMRL) along the 100 ft Road at the junction. ...........................................





http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/city/chennai/5-new-flyovers-to-ease-traffic-on-Anna-Salai/articleshow/5066570.cms

Driving on the busy Anna Salai could soon be a roller-coaster experience, literally, with the highways department planning five flyovers

within a stretch of six kilometers. The flyovers, estimated to cost Rs 600 crore, will come up at the traffic intersections at Wallajah Road, Spencers, Eldams Road, Nandanam and CIT Nagar.

According to official sources, work is on to put together detailed project reports (DPRs) for all five projects. The proposal has gathered momentum due to the sharp rise in vehicular traffic in recent years. The flyovers are expected to prevent congestion from building up around traffic signals at key junctions on the city’s lifeline.

“Vehicle movement on Anna Salai is increasing with every passing day and we need to do something big to tackle the traffic flow. The proposals were drafted to reduce congestion at important junctions which have heavy vehicular movement. The project report will be completed in three months. It will then be sent to the state government for approval,’’ an official in the highways department told TOI.

As per the proposal, the flyovers to be built at Wallajah Road junction and Eldams Road junction on Anna Salai would be the longest among the five. “Each one would be a kilometer long. While Walaja Road flyover will end in front of LIC and Eldams Road flyover will end after the Anna Salai-Cenotaph Road intersection. In CIT Nagar, the proposed flyover would come up covering two intersections on Anna Salai at first and third main roads of CIT Nagar. The flyover at Spencers junction will be about 600 metres long and will end in front of the Anna Salai police station,’’ the official.

A traffic census conducted by the Highways Research Station last year found that Anna Salai near DMS and Nandanam have the highest traffic density on state highways in the city, with a movement of about 1.5 lakh vehicles every day.
Officials in the department said they were considering various options to decongest traffic on the state highways in the city, mainly on Anna Salai.“About seven years ago, there was a discussion in the government to build an elevated highway on Anna Salai at a cost of Rs 150 crore, but it has not materialised. The proposed flyovers will ensure smooth traffic on Anna Salai,’’ said an highways engineer.


Really Great News, We are also expecting this............. great, great.

But how long it will take to build? thats big question. chennai guys will suffer if the construction period goes like kathipara flyover...

its good news.:banana::banana::banana:

Now we will discuss about 100feet road from kathipara to koyambedu :cheers:



what we discussed before...................... now its coming true....:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

Guys, recently (last week or so), I saw some traffic survey is going along the IRR. To mention the places, I saw them at Olympia Tech Park and Ashok Pillar..

Any Idea about what it is for ?

Guys, recently (last week or so), I saw some traffic survey is going along the IRR. To mention the places, I saw them at Olympia Tech Park and Ashok Pillar..

Any Idea about what it is for ?

Chennai Metro Rail Project.

The station will come up at Cipet campus (Temporary terminus till the Anna Salai line is completed)

The Metro line crosses the 100 ft road from Ambal Nagr / Kalaimagal Nagar side to just after Malladi Junction into HCL compound and CIPET compound.

The traffic along the 100 ft road has to be regulated during construction.

^^

Cool.. Thanks for the info.

Chennai Metro Rail Project.

The station will come up at Cipet campus (Temporary terminus till the Anna Salai line is completed)

The Metro line crosses the 100 ft road from Ambal Nagr / Kalaimagal Nagar side to just after Malladi Junction into HCL compound and CIPET compound.

The traffic along the 100 ft road has to be regulated during construction.

it will be foolish to construct a temporary station till another line is completed and then abandon it when that line is open. not even a child would think in such a childish manner. are you sure that is what they are going to do? i really dont think that they would do so. what i heard was they will finish off the teynampet - airport stretch of the metro line 1 along with the elevated part of line 2. and that would be more logical. anyways if this discussion continues i think it should be transferred to Chennai Metro Rail Thread.

it will be foolish to construct a temporary station till another line is completed and then abandon it when that line is open. not even a child would think in such a childish manner. are you sure that is what they are going to do? i really dont think that they would do so. what i heard was they will finish off the teynampet - airport stretch of the metro line 1 along with the elevated part of line 2. and that would be more logical. anyways if this discussion continues i think it should be transferred to Chennai Metro Rail Thread.

its a temporary terminus, meaning an endpoint, i believe. not a temporary station. the station would not cease to exist, but wont be a terminus once its extended beyond.

oh ok. got it.

TOI (http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Daily/skins/TOINEW/navigator.asp?Daily=TOICH&showST=true&login=default&pub=TOI)

Chennai: B Narayanamoorthy, a resident of Thiruninravur in the western suburbs of the city, once used to travel to his office on the Chennai-Bangalore High Road in Poonamallee, a distance of eight kilometers. However, in the past two years he has been travelling 16 km to reach his offfice.
Closure of the Thiruninravur level-crossing due to the delay in the completion of a road overbridge that connects Pakkam Road and MTH Road from Poonamallee-Jamin Korattur-Thiruninravur Road has made life miserable for people like Narayanamoorthy. They are forced to travel double the distance to reach their destination.
While the railways have finished their part of the bridge, the state highway is yet to complete the construction on either side of the bridge that runs over a railway line. The result is that the railway’s construction serves no purpose, bringing into focus the need for a unified transport authority as a single window clearance and implementation agency.
The state highways department has stopped construction in 2007. And the level-crossing continues to be closed has been causing hardship to people, forcing them to go to MTH Road or Pakkam Road from Jamin Korattur-Poonamallee Road and vice versa. Residents have been urging authorities to either ensure that work is resumed and completed soon or to keep the level-crossing open till work resumes. “We were happy when the state highways department and the railways jointly started work on the bridge in 2005, but now official callousness in completing work has become a burning issue among people here,’’ said Seethalakshmi, a teacher in a private school on MTH Road.
“We can reach Poonamallee, covering only eight km, if we go down the Thiruninravur level-crossing. Since it is closed, we have to go all the way to Avadi and then travel another six km to reach Poonamallee. We find it extremely difficult, especially during peak hours, at nights and at times of urgency when we have to take patients to MTH Road from Jamin Korattur-Poonamallee Road side,’’ said L Karthikeyan, a resident in Thiruninravur.
Closure of the level-crossing has not prevented people from trying to reach the other side by getting through the railway gate. Three days ago, there was an accident at the level-crossing. A motorcyclist miraculously escaped from being hit by a speeding train; his vehicle was completely damaged.
Officials in the highways department told TOI that work could not be resumed because of the delay in land acquisition. “The railways have completed its portion of work; 70% of the construction is already over. We have recently called for tenders for the remaining 30% work. The final notification for land acquisition is expected to be issued very soon, to acquire land for constructing ramps and laying service lanes. We hope the bridge will be inaugurated by March 2010,’’ a senior highways official said.
Once completed, the overbridge, estimated to cost Rs six crore, would help people in about 30 villages in and around Thiruninravur, the official added.

Grade Seperator on Pallikaranai is opened to public now, not sure if its officicially open

^^It is officially open from today. M K Stalin did the honours

why no paper adv...?

why no paper adv...?

Of course to save money to build more flyovers ...:banana:

TN should be really happy to get a CM(yeah he is the CM) like him.

CHENNAI: A flyover built in Pallikaranai was declared open by M.K. Stalin, Deputy Chief Minister, on Thursday.

Located at the junction of Velachery-Tambaram Main Road and Pallavaram-Thoraipakkam road, the flyover, having a length of 642.4 metres and width of 22 metres, had a provision for six lanes.

Estimated to have cost about Rs.20 crore, the facility was built by the Highways department.

T. M. Anbarasan, Labour Minister, M.P. Saminathan, Highways and Minor Ports Minister and G. Santhanam, Highways Secretary, were present.

source (http://www.hindu.com/2009/10/30/stories/2009103059290300.htm)

good news...

CHENNAI: A flyover built in Pallikaranai was declared open by M.K. Stalin, Deputy Chief Minister, on Thursday.

Located at the junction of Velachery-Tambaram Main Road and Pallavaram-Thoraipakkam road, the flyover, having a length of 642.4 metres and width of 22 metres, had a provision for six lanes.

Estimated to have cost about Rs.20 crore, the facility was built by the Highways department.

T. M. Anbarasan, Labour Minister, M.P. Saminathan, Highways and Minor Ports Minister and G. Santhanam, Highways Secretary, were present.

source (http://www.hindu.com/2009/10/30/stories/2009103059290300.htm)

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பள்ளிக்கரணை: தாம்பரம்-வேளச்சேரி சாலையில், பள்ளிக்கரணை சந்திப்பு அருகே ஏற்பட்டு வந்த போக்குவரத்து நெரிசலை தவிர்க்கும் வகையில்,19 கோடி ரூபாய் செலவில் கட்டப்பட்டுள்ள மேம்பாலத்தை துணை முதல்வர் ஸ்டாலின் நேற்று திறந்து வைத்தார்.


பள்ளிக்கரணையில் பெருகி வரும் வாகன போக்குவரத்தை கருத்தில் கொண்டு பல்லாவரம்-துரைப்பாக்கம் ரேடியல் சாலை சந்திப்பில் ஒரு மேம்பாலம் கட்டப்பட வேண்டும் என பொதுமக்கள் கோரி வந்தனர். இதையடுத்து, பல்லாவரம், துரைப்பாக்கம், தாம்பரம், வேளச்சேரி ஆகிய பகுதிகளில் இருந்து வரும் வாகனங்கள் எளிதாக செல்வதற்காக பள்ளிக்கரணையில் 14 கோடி ரூபாய் செலவில் மேம்பாலம் அமைக்க சென்னை மாநகர வளர்ச்சி குழுமம் திட்டமிட்டது. மறு திட்டமதிப்பீட்டின் படி, 21 கோடி ரூபாயில் பாலப்பணிகள் துவங்கின. 642 .40 மீட்டர் நீளம், 22 மீட்டர் அகலம் மற்றும் சாலையின் நடுவே 1.2 மீட்டர் சென்டர் மீடியனுடன் ஆறு வழிப்பாதை கொண்டதாக தற் போது 19 கோடி ரூபாயில் பாலப் பணிகள் முடிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளன.


பள்ளிக்கரணையில், மேம்பாலம் அமைக்கப்பட்டுள்ள பகுதி சதுப்பு நிலம் என்பதால் கடந்த ஆறு மாதத்திற்கு முன் முடிய வேண்டிய இப்பாலம், தற்போது கட்டி முடிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது. இந்த மேம்பாலம் கட்டி முடிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளதால், இதுவரை இப்பகுதியில் ஏற்பட்டு வந்த போக்குவரத்து நெரிசல் கணிசமாக குறைவதுடன் விரைவாகவும் வாகனங்கள் செல்ல முடியும். இப்பாலத்தை நேற்று காலை துணை முதல்வர் ஸ்டாலின் திறந்து வைத்தார். அமைச்சர்கள் வெள்ளகோவில் சுவாமிநாதன், அன்பரசன், தாம்பரம் எம்.எல்.ஏ., எஸ்.ஆர்.ராஜா உள்ளிட்டோர் கலந்து கொண்டனர். பாலத்தை திறந்து வைத்த பின், துணை முதல்வர் ஸ்டாலின் பேட்டியளிக்கையில், " நெடுஞ் சாலைத்துறை சார்பில், கடந்த 2008ம் ஆண்டு, இந்த மேம்பாலத்தின் கட்டுமானப் பணி துவக்கப்பட்டது.


மண் பரிசோதனை காரணமாக, இடையில் ஆறு மாத காலம் தாமதம் ஏற்பட்டது. இந்த மேம்பாலத்தின் மொத்த நீளம் 642.40 மீட்டர். மொத்த மதிப்பு 21 கோடி ரூபாய். ஆனால், 19 கோடி ரூபாய் செலவிலேயே மேம்பாலம் கட்டி முடிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது. இரண்டு கோடி ரூபாய் மிச்சப் படுத்தப்பட்டுள்ளது. இந்த மேம்பாலம் ஆறு வழிப்பாதையாக இயங்கும்,' என்றார். பள்ளிக்கரணை மேம்பாலத்தின் மேல்பகுதியில் வேளச் சேரியிலிருந்து-தாம்பரம் மற்றும் தாம்பரத்திலிருந்து- வேளச்சேரி செல்லக்கூடிய வாகனங்களும், கீழ்பகுதியில் பல்லாவரம்-துரைப்பாக்கம் சாலையிலிருந்து வேளச்சேரி மற்றும் தாம் பரத்திற்கு செல்லக்கூடிய வாகனங்களும், வேளச்சேரி மற்றும் தாம்பரத்திலிருந்து பல்லாவரம்- துரைப்பாக்கம் சாலைக்கு செல்லக்கூடிய வாகனங்களும் அனுமதிக்கப்படும்

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Interesting black and white colour tones..looks neat and clean and more importantly wide.

^^ Huh...Black and white??? How will be the lane markings in future then? 2D graphics???

How come they forgot to put lane line...:lol: | |

^^ Huh...Black and white??? How will be the lane markings in future then? 2D graphics???

The bridge is not yet fully finished. The RCC (Non metal Road) portion is not fully cleaned after removing the formwork and so it looks white. But it does not pose any problem with reference to friction. It is similar to any non metal road (like on top of bridges or so) and reflective yellow lines will be used for lane marking.

To increase the contract value, it is generally covered with a top bitumen layer (every year they can replace the same and so new contracts), even though it is not necessay.

CHENNAI: The Chennai Corporation on Monday started work to widen the Turn Bulls Road to increase space for vehicular traffic on service roads on either side of the flyover at the Turn Bulls Road–Cenotaph Road intersection.

Compound walls of several private buildings and other structures were removed to increase the road width by an additional 22 to 23 feet.

“The service road width was too narrow. We had to acquire land to widen the road,” said Corporation Commissioner Rajesh Lakhoni.
Allocation

“A sum of Rs.12 crore had already been earmarked for land acquisition.”

A compensation at the rate of Rs.3,800 per square foot is what has been orally conveyed to us, residents said.

After acquiring the land, road space of 4.5 metres and footpath width of 1.5 metres would be available on each service road, said an official. Road laying work would be started simultaneously as the construction of the flyover is almost complete, he added.

source (http://www.hindu.com/2009/11/03/stories/2009110359430300.htm)

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CHENNAI: Mayor M Subramanian on Monday said a new four-lane bridge would be constructed on the Buckingham Canal near the Indira Nagar MRTS station to replace the one that collapsed on Sunday after a brick-laden lorry tried to pass through. The proposed bridge, estimated to cost Rs two crore, will be 60 ft wide and 150 ft long.

The announcement came after the Mayor inspected the site of the collapsed structure where workers were still removing the debris.

"Execution of the project will be hassle-free since only a couple of encroachers need to be removed from the 80ft-wide approach lane to Indira Nagar. The councillors of the Mylapore zone have been directed to adopt a resolution in the ward committee before sending it to the council meet for clearance," Subramanian said.

The iron bridge, more than three decades old, was a vital link to hundreds of office-goers and school children in Kanagam and Taramani on the eastern side of Rajiv Gandhi Salai or OMR. Motorists from Adyar, Besant Nagar and Mylapore used it to move on to Rajiv Gandhi Salai as did many students from the Dharmambal Polytechnic for Women.

"It had been providing easy access to many people. We only hope to start work on the new bridge in January and complete construction by December 2010," Subramanian told TOI.

After Sunday's incident, pedestrians have been using the Indira Nagar MRTS station and a foot over bridge to cross the road. For, motorists it is tougher. "Taking a detour via the L B Road Junction or the Madya Kailash Junction consumes a lot of time, given the long wait at traffic signals," said L Murthy, an office-goer.

The corporation is already facing tremendous pressure to ease congestion on Lattice Bridge Road.

Source: TOI - http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/Four-lane-bridge-to-replace-collapsed-one-in-Indira-Nagar/articleshow/5190989.cms

^^ I grew up in Indira Nagar and as far as I know this bridge was in a collapsible condition since 6-7 years. If I remember correctly, Chennai corporation floated tenders to build a new bridge and twice and there were no takers.

This bridge has served as a key connection between Indira Nagar / Besant Nagar and surrounding areas with IT Corridor for almost 30 years and it took a lorry to collapse for a new bridge to be built.

Hoping that the bridge will be rebuilt soon.

CHENNAI: A total of 13 small bridges and culverts across the city will be widened as part of measures to reduce traffic congestion.

Figuring in the list prepared by the Chennai Corporation is the widening of the bridge at the Madhya Kailash junction where rush-hour traffic pile-up is common. The bridge across the Virugambakkam canal at Kaliamman Koil Street will also be widened. The Corporation is taking up the work after the police identified traffic bottlenecks that could be removed by widening bridges and culverts. Additional Commissioner (Traffic) Shakeel Akhtar said similar lists were sent to BSNL, the Highways Department and the Tamil Nadu Electricity Board.

Civic body officials said that in some places the roads were wider than the bridges; this leads to traffic congestion. The available road space is also not being utilised fully.

The works are being handled at the zonal level as they cost less than Rs.20 lakh each. Preliminary work has begun. The bridge and the box culvert on Anna Salai in Sastri Nagar, coming under Pulianthope Zone, would be demolished and constructed at a cost of Rs.8.63 crore.

Minor bridges on Anderson Road, Sivananda Salai and Wallajah Road are being widened. Others to be widened include Gurusamy Bridge in Egmore and culverts on Spur Tank Road, Thirumangalam Road and Powder Mills Road.

Urban Planner K.P. Subramanian said that as per Indian Roads Congress guidelines, unauthorised parking is not allowed on a stretch of 75 metres on either side of bus stops.

source (http://www.hindu.com/2009/11/06/stories/2009110650080100.htm)

CHENNAI: A total of 13 small bridges and culverts across the city will be widened as part of measures to reduce traffic congestion.

Figuring in the list prepared by the Chennai Corporation is the widening of the bridge at the Madhya Kailash junction where rush-hour traffic pile-up is common. The bridge across the Virugambakkam canal at Kaliamman Koil Street will also be widened. The Corporation is taking up the work after the police identified traffic bottlenecks that could be removed by widening bridges and culverts. Additional Commissioner (Traffic) Shakeel Akhtar said similar lists were sent to BSNL, the Highways Department and the Tamil Nadu Electricity Board.

Civic body officials said that in some places the roads were wider than the bridges; this leads to traffic congestion. The available road space is also not being utilised fully.

The works are being handled at the zonal level as they cost less than Rs.20 lakh each. Preliminary work has begun. The bridge and the box culvert on Anna Salai in Sastri Nagar, coming under Pulianthope Zone, would be demolished and constructed at a cost of Rs.8.63 crore.

Minor bridges on Anderson Road, Sivananda Salai and Wallajah Road are being widened. Others to be widened include Gurusamy Bridge in Egmore and culverts on Spur Tank Road, Thirumangalam Road and Powder Mills Road.

Urban Planner K.P. Subramanian said that as per Indian Roads Congress guidelines, unauthorised parking is not allowed on a stretch of 75 metres on either side of bus stops.

source (http://www.hindu.com/2009/11/06/stories/2009110650080100.htm)

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A minor bridge near Madhya Kailash in Adyar which will be widened

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A minor bridge near Madhya Kailash in Adyar which will be widened

A comprehensive plan with "future traffic and other developments that are planned / proposed" in mind, they have to expand this bridge.

The service road from the Kasthurba Nagar station is joining near this bridge. The Canal Bank Road from Kasthurba Nagar and also Gandhi Nagar side is joining near this bridge.

The Road opp to IT Corridor leading to Kotturpuram Station (on the west sidr of B. Canal) and IT Corridor itself are terminating / starting from here.

Since Madya Kailash junction is going to be a crucial junction in controlling the main traffic to IT Corridor from the city, more care should be taken in designing the bridge. It should not be a short time solution.

If they connect the service road on the east side of B. Canal behind KB nagar & Indra Nagar stations to the IT Corridor near the KB Nagar station (near the bridge at Madya Kailash), bulk of the traffic from Indra Nagar and KB nagar can join the MK junction at this point.

Similarly if some land can be acquired from the old Cancer Hospital at Gandhi Nagar canal bank road corner and CLRI, future traffic from Kottur side or YMCA - Anna Salai via the new proposed road) or Adyar Bund proposed road to Porur can also join at this bridge.

Madhya Kailash junction needs some serious but very careful planning... Cos its a junction with one 6-lane road (IT Corridor), three 4-lane roads (Canal bank road, Sardar Patel road to Halda and same road to adyar) and a 2-lane road (so-called road leading to Kotturpuram MRTS station) with a big temple on one side and a over-head MRTS on the other side..

Its goin to be difficult to plan a proper interchange here and as well as in the Fire junction.

They should have built the interchanges before the IT corridor .. :ohno:

Thanks natarajan1986 and indian sun for your information on maduvankarai ROB

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/Flyover-to-come-up-at-Moolakadai-Junction/articleshow/5209980.cms

Traffic congestion at Moolakadai junction in north Chennai that leads to vehicles being trapped on Grand Northern Trunk (GNT) Road could soon be a thing of the past. The state Highways Department is taking steps to construct a flyover at GNT Road-Madhavaram High Road junction in Moolakadai at an estimated cost of Rs 46 crore. The 600-metre flyover will come up along GNT Road.

According to official sources, preparation of a detailed project report for the flyover is nearing completion and the department will call for tenders for the project in December or January. "The state government has already given preliminary sanction for the project, but we had to wait for the finalisation of the Metro Rail alignment. Now that the alignment has been finalised, we are speeding up the pre-construction work to begin flyover construction by early next year. It will be completed in 18 months,'' a senior highways official told The Times of India.

Vehicle movement on both Madhavaram High Road and GNT Road is on the rise and daily traffic density at the junction has crossed 10,000 passenger car units (PCUs). Many residents, vehicle users and traders welcomed the government's move.

"Traffic jam at Moolakadai junction is a daily ordeal for vehicle users. Though GNT Road is comparatively wide, roadside parking of vehicles is as a hindrance while Madhavaram High Road is highly congested with encroachments. Construction of a flyover here will help bring down congestion,'' said Chandra Bose, a shopkeeper at Vyasarpadi.

MTC drivers who operate buses through Moolakadai junction said they struggle to cross the junction as many times vehicles get piled up for more than half a kilometer during peak hours.

"Though the recent widening of some of the stretches of GNT Road has helped, residents of various areas including Perambur, Vyasarpadi, Tondiarpet and Madhavaram have been demanding a flyover here to ensure smooth traffic flow. Authorities should ensure that the project is implemented as soon as possible,'' said Karthikeyan, a resident of Madhavaram Milk Colony.

Jeeva | TNN

Chennai: Traffic congestion at Moolakadai junction in north Chennai that leads to vehicles piling up on Grand Northern Trunk (GNT) Road could soon be passe. The state highways department is taking steps to construct a flyover at GNT Road-Madhavaram High Road junction in Moolakadai at an estimated cost of Rs 46 crore. The 600-metre flyover will come up along GNT Road.
Official sources said that preparation of a detailed report for the flyover was nearing completion and that the department would call for tenders in December or January. “The state government has already given preliminary sanction for the project, but we waited for the finalisation of the Metro Rail alignment. Now that the alignment has been finalised, we are speeding up the preconstruction work to begin flyover construction by early next year. It will be completed in 18 months,’’ a senior highways official told TOI.
Vehicle movement on both Madhavaram High Road and GNT Road is on the rise and daily traffic density at the junction has crossed 10,000 passenger car units. Residents, vehicle users and traders welcomed the move.
“Traffic jam at Moolakadai junction is a daily ordeal for vehicle users. Though GNT Road is quite wide, roadside parking of vehicles is as a hindrance while Madhavaram High Road is highly congested with encroachments. Construction of a flyover here will help bring down congestion,’’ said Chandra Bose, a shopkeeper at Vyasarpadi.
MTC drivers who operate buses through Moolakadai junction said they struggle to cross the junction, as many times vehicles are stuck for more than half a kilometre during peak hours.
“Though the recent widening of some of the stretches of GNT Road has helped, residents of various areas, including Perambur, Vyasarpadi, Tondiarpet and Madhavaram have been demanding a flyover here to ensure smooth traffic flow,’’ said Karthikeyan, a resident of Madhavaram Milk Colony.
jeeva.pugazvendan@timesgroup.com

EASING CONGESTION: The 600-metre flyover estimated to cost Rs 46 crore will relieve Moolakadai residents and motorists of their traffic woes

http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/Scripting/ArticleWin.asp?From=Archive&Source=Page&Skin=TOINEW&BaseHref=TOICH/2009/11/09&PageLabel=3&EntityId=Ar00302&ViewMode=HTML&GZ=T

hey Guys in SG, does it rain heavily in SG, is SG capable of handling flood.I am sure it should be

In tokyo and in places i stayed in US, it is just drizzles entire day. what ever it rains in 1 hr in chennai, it will rain the entire day in tokyo. so there is no flooding here. Since SG is in equatorial climate it should rain very often.

My question is to find out whether is there any better way to build the drainage in india,anyhow we know in india, it is well below standards,but i just want to have a comparison.

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hey Guys in SG, does it rain heavily in SG, is SG capable of handling flood.I am sure it should be

In tokyo and in places i stayed in US, it is just drizzles entire day. what ever it rains in 1 hr in chennai, it will rain the entire day in tokyo. so there is no flooding here. Since SG is in equatorial climate it should rain very often.

My question is to find out whether is there any better way to build the drainage in india,anyhow we know in india, it is well below standards,but i just want to have a comparison.

Why Comparing with SG?
I'm not complaining about the comparison. SG is very small in size, so independent of how may cm's it received in an hour/day, the volume of water (rain) precipitated on the land also small. One might ask Land is small volume of water is small then ratio is same but it has 360 Degrees available to drain the water if it rains heavily.

-Just my thought,
Bless

hey Guys in SG, does it rain heavily in SG, is SG capable of handling flood.I am sure it should be

In tokyo and in places i stayed in US, it is just drizzles entire day. what ever it rains in 1 hr in chennai, it will rain the entire day in tokyo. so there is no flooding here. Since SG is in equatorial climate it should rain very often.

My question is to find out whether is there any better way to build the drainage in india,anyhow we know in india, it is well below standards,but i just want to have a comparison.

Yes, it rains heavily in Singapore. The drainage system is one of the most efficient in the world but it cannot be emulated as it has been planned from the beginning.

Anna Flyover during monsoon rains

http://i34.tinypic.com/2v1oscn.jpg

We need another flyover crossing Anna flyover at 90 degree from Nungambakkam high road to Cathedral road?! Isnt this flyover got congested long back... any solution for that.?

:ohno: I thought billboards / hoardings are out of Chennai, I can see only traffic and hoardings here. Can someone confirm this is a recent picture?

still chennai corp' is allowing the adv boards?:bash::bash::bash:

No this is not the latest Picture .. there are no hoardings now :nuts:

Guys, any update on perambur flyover ?????????

^^ @ Think_different: Here is Gemini flyover without the hoardings; this is how it looks currently. Honestly Chennai looks much greener after the hoardings were removed!

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2137/34631457.jpg

^^ One of the best efforts by MK :) But I hate for he ditched the Monorail project! :ohno:

looks nice :) ...but seriously cm should build more parks in urban areas...i know many are upcoming but still more are needed....as for the monorail, it doesnt make sense as the project is too costly....lower middle class wont be able to afford the fares.....

^^ One of the best efforts by MK :) But I hate for he ditched the Monorail project! :ohno:

^^hmmm my friend Kewl is obsessed with the monorail project. It is/was not a workable solution Kewl...Metro is the ideal solution.

And yes, Gemini is looking fab without the hoardings... btw, any time-line set for the botonical gardens at woodlands site??

^^ One of the best efforts by MK :) But I hate for he ditched the Monorail project! :ohno:

One thing I am happy about is, atleast they started the metro without any delay or any roadblocks, unlike the monorail proposal which never took off, which otherwise will be like 5 years then the project was started.

the monorail proposal was the most brainless thing that ive ever seen. pallavan transport had made the report for the project and proposed some 10 lines that diverged from broadway bus terminus. i wonder if they ever bothered to find out how to combine so many lines on a monorail track. it was just some gas that was made up for the elections, nothing else.

^^ Let me not hijack this thread.. moving it to the discussion thread..

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/6304/getimage.png (http://img692.imageshack.us/i/getimage.png/)

the monorail proposal was the most brainless thing that ive ever seen. pallavan transport had made the report for the project and proposed some 10 lines that diverged from broadway bus terminus. i wonder if they ever bothered to find out how to combine so many lines on a monorail track. it was just some gas that was made up for the elections, nothing else.

Hi Planemad,

Long time no post.

Have you moved to Ahmedabad?

Pl PM me

hey Guys in SG, does it rain heavily in SG, is SG capable of handling flood.I am sure it should be

In tokyo and in places i stayed in US, it is just drizzles entire day. what ever it rains in 1 hr in chennai, it will rain the entire day in tokyo. so there is no flooding here. Since SG is in equatorial climate it should rain very often.

My question is to find out whether is there any better way to build the drainage in india,anyhow we know in india, it is well below standards,but i just want to have a comparison.

Yes, it rains heavily in Singapore. Average annual precipitation is 2400mm. The highest rainfall ever recorded in a 24hr period is 512mm. Singapore is affected by the SW monsoon, NE monsoon, and convective thunderstorms that occur practically every other day.

Singapore is not small by city standards. It has a land mass of 699 sq km. That is a large enough area to create a significant runoff.

Singapore in the 1960s, and 70s was perhaps no better than Madras wrt the lack of infrastructure. However, they have completely overhauled their drainage system, and incorporated an extensive system of storm water drains, canals, barrages, and reservoirs. They have cleaned up the Singapore river as well, which used to resemble the present day Cooum.

That said, there are occasional floods in Singapore, more due to heavy monsoon rain in Dec coinciding with high tide, and generally in the low lying areas. But these floods subside within a few hours.

Nothing that Madras cannot achieve. Pity about the corruption and lack of planning in India that robs the average Joe of a decent quality of life.

^^ @ Think_different: Here is Gemini flyover without the hoardings; this is how it looks currently. Honestly Chennai looks much greener after the hoardings were removed!

this is what we wanted exactly without hoarding...:banana:

^^ @ Think_different: Here is Gemini flyover without the hoardings; this is how it looks currently. Honestly Chennai looks much greener after the hoardings were removed!

its nice

Imagine the gemini flyover without hoardings, more greener botonical gardens at one side, subway metro entrances on all corners and Volvo buses cruising over the flyover.
But the poor police constable with automated riffle to protect the consulate, will still be there :(

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/Flyover-to-come-up-at-Moolakadai-Junction/articleshow/5209980.cms


"The state government has already given preliminary sanction for the project, but we had to wait for the finalisation of the Metro Rail alignment. Now that the alignment has been finalised, we are speeding up the pre-construction work to begin flyover construction by early next year. It will be completed in 18 months,'' a senior highways official told The Times of India.



What is de connection between Metro rail alignment and a Flyover at moolakadai Junction????????????

anyone any idea what's cooking at foreshore estate. i am referring to the road along beach between light house & mrc nagar. i recently read on the hindu that all the remaining structures would also be demolished after recent high court order. this is about 90 odd acres, if my memory serves right.

this is the region to watch out for in the next decade.

^^ They're redeveloping the Slum Clearance Board tenements in that area - all the buildings are to be demolished and redeveloped..

It's going to change the face of that side of town forever.. Not to mention vastly improve the views from the top-floor suites of the JW Marriott and Leela Palace..

:)

Does this mean they gonna re-build the houses for for Slum dwellers for same site? :ohno:

^^ They're redeveloping the Slum Clearance Board tenements in that area - all the buildings are to be demolished and redeveloped..

:)

:ohno: Not again, same slums in the center of the city....ouch...

Guindy-Saidapet Bridge ready for next month inauguration.

http://epaper.mmnews.in/13112009/epaperimages/13112009/13112009-md-hr-1/143157453.jpg

Malaimalar

is this public bridge...?

Guindy-Saidapet Bridge ready for next month inauguration.

http://epaper.mmnews.in/13112009/epaperimages/13112009/13112009-md-hr-1/143157453.jpg

Malaimalar

Both sides of the bridge sucks....imagine if it has clear water way on one side and park or high rise buildings with greenary on other side...

Guindy-Saidapet Bridge ready for next month inauguration.

http://epaper.mmnews.in/13112009/epaperimages/13112009/13112009-md-hr-1/143157453.jpg

Malaimalar

What's the space on the sides for? Is it for pedestrians? Also the flyover looks a bit different in design from the usual ones in Chennai. The side walls look more like that of an MRTS bridge

Does this mean they gonna re-build the houses for for Slum dwellers for same site? :ohno:
They are going to build TNHB houses as well slum clearance houses. I read its going to be a integrated township kind model. EVen if govt screws up, the building will look far better than the earlier ones atleast for next 5 yrs

Flyover and bridge nearing completion

Staff Reporter

Will be opened by Chief Minister soon: Mayor

— Photo: M.Karunakaran

Mayor M.Subramanian inspecting the Jones Road subway in Saidapet on Friday.

CHENNAI: Work on the flyover at the Turnbulls Road-Cenotaph Road junction, high-level bridge on Alandur Road, Saidapet, and a vehicular subway on Jones Road, Saidapet, is nearing completion.

They will soon be inaugurated by Chief Minister M. Karunanidhi, Mayor M. Subramanian told reporters after visiting the two upcoming facilities in Saidapet on Friday.

Once the Alandur Road bridge, being constructed at a cost of Rs.9.03 crore, is opened to traffic, it will cut down the travel time for motorists between the Guindy Industrial Estate and Saidapet and help avoid a stretch of the busy Anna Salai. The new facility was proposed as the causeway there often gets submerged during heavy rain. In 2005, it was partially damaged.

The Alandur Road bridge and the Rs.8.89-crore Jones Road vehicular subway are being funded partially under the Jawaharlal Nehru National Urban Renewal Mission.

The Alandur Road bridge is 420 m long, 12 m wide and the carriageway is 7.5 m, including 2.25-m-wide footpaths on either side.

The subway on Jones Road is 305.67 m long, 5.5 m wide and has service lanes of 3.5 m each.

Other facilities, including the flyover on Kathivakkam High Road-Cochrane Basin Road and subway on Monegar Chowltry Road, would be inaugurated in March next year, the vehicular subway to replace the level-crossing 2 in Villivakkam in April and the flyover in Rangarajapuram in June next year.

http://www.hindu.com/2009/11/14/stories/2009111459510300.htm

Latest picture of Turn bulls road flyover:

http://epaper.dinamani.com/epaperimages/14112009/14112009-cni-mn-02/15616375.JPG

Dinamani

:ohno: Not again, same slums in the center of the city....ouch...

Lol - it's not like they're building new slums - I don't see what your problem is..

Grade separator work on progress under the NHAI Project near Madhuravayal
http://beta.thehindu.com/multimedia/dynamic/00012/MADHURAVAYAL_ROAD_11_12175f.jpg

Nine states have signed an agreement with the Centre to develop highways after the Union Transport Ministry made it essential to do so to access central funds.

Soon after taking charge, Transport Minister Kamal Nath had made it mandatory for the states to sign the State Support Agreement (SSA) under which the states would have to acquire land for highway construction to get central funds.

Earlier, central funds were released to states without any conditions, leaving it for the private developer to acquire land, which not only delayed the projects but even stalled them at times.

According to senior ministry officials, Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh, Karnataka, Punjab, Haryana, Assam, Andhra Pradesh, Maharashtra and Orissa have signed the SSA so far.

The agreement requires also the states to ensure that no competing highway or toll-ways are developed in violation of the terms and conditions, under which the government gives out projects to private developers.

The SSA also stipulates the states to “assist the Concessionaire in obtaining access to all necessary infrastructure facilities and utilities, including water and electricity“.

It would also ensure that any local bodies, including Panchayats, do not obstruct the highway project or levy any taxes.

About 20,000 kms of national highways is targeted to be upgraded to two-lane standards in Phase IV of the National Highways Development Project.

This phase does not come under the purview of National Highways Authority of India and is to be executed directly under the supervision of the Transport Ministry in association with the states.

Guys anyone found any news about Chennai in this article. I cant find single word Chennai in this article except the photo above...but this news comes in Chennai city selection from Hindunewsdotnet. Please point me...

Lol - it's not like they're building new slums - I don't see what your problem is..

to me.. all TNHB and slum clearance houses are no better than slums , modern slums...may be for 2 years those buildings might look good.
Why to spoil a prime area building slums ?.

^^
here is the link for those who missed reading hindu:
http://www.thehindu.com/2009/11/03/stories/2009110358730300.htm

Flyover and bridge nearing completion

Staff Reporter

Will be opened by Chief Minister soon: Mayor

— Photo: M.Karunakaran
http://www.hindu.com/2009/11/14/images/2009111459510301.jpg
Mayor M.Subramanian inspecting the Jones Road subway in Saidapet on Friday.

CHENNAI: Work on the flyover at the Turnbulls Road-Cenotaph Road junction, high-level bridge on Alandur Road, Saidapet, and a vehicular subway on Jones Road, Saidapet, is nearing completion.

They will soon be inaugurated by Chief Minister M. Karunanidhi, Mayor M. Subramanian told reporters after visiting the two upcoming facilities in Saidapet on Friday.

Once the Alandur Road bridge, being constructed at a cost of Rs.9.03 crore, is opened to traffic, it will cut down the travel time for motorists between the Guindy Industrial Estate and Saidapet and help avoid a stretch of the busy Anna Salai. The new facility was proposed as the causeway there often gets submerged during heavy rain. In 2005, it was partially damaged.

The Alandur Road bridge and the Rs.8.89-crore Jones Road vehicular subway are being funded partially under the Jawaharlal Nehru National Urban Renewal Mission.

The Alandur Road bridge is 420 m long, 12 m wide and the carriageway is 7.5 m, including 2.25-m-wide footpaths on either side.

The subway on Jones Road is 305.67 m long, 5.5 m wide and has service lanes of 3.5 m each.

Other facilities, including the flyover on Kathivakkam High Road-Cochrane Basin Road and subway on Monegar Chowltry Road, would be inaugurated in March next year, the vehicular subway to replace the level-crossing 2 in Villivakkam in April and the flyover in Rangarajapuram in June next year.

Source: http://www.hindu.com/2009/11/14/stories/2009111459510300.htm

^^

http://epaper.dinamalar.com/DM/DINAMALAR/2009/11/14/photographs/013/14_11_2009_013_013_001.jpg

Source: Dinamalar

Director Shankar happened to see an over bridge that is under construction in Maduravoil ring road near Mugappair. That is the Chennai High Speed Circular Transportation Corridor, an urban road transit in the form of elevated concentric beltway planned for Chennai. This particular over bridge is being designed so well that it looks like some foreign location. So the director had planned to shoot the car chase of ‘Yanthram’ in this location. (http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/telugu/article/51678.html)

--- Anyone seen this bridge? Any pictures of it?

^^

Opps that elevated high speed circular corridor is in papers!! :lol::lol:

The Maduravoyl interchange is the part of Chennai bye-pass expressway,Port expressway and Ponamalle free way. Nothing to do with the circular high speed corridor

^^ That part is taken from Wikipedia. :P. And Chennai Bypass will be taken over (once construction is over) into HSCTC right? The committee has told NHAI to construct Chennai Bypass outside CMA. :lol:

CHENNAI: Three residents of Cenotaph Road here have again approached the Madras High Court, complaining that the authorities were attempting
to take over lands in excess of the extent notified for the service lane alongside the flyover.

Justice P Jyothimani, before whom the joint petition of J Gunalakshmi and two others came up for hearing, has asked the government to consider the representations of these residents and pass appropriate orders in accordance with law. The judge also recorded advocate-general's statement that no portion of the petitioners' lands, other than the one notified earlier, had been taken over by the authorities.

Pointing out that the petitioners have submitted representations to the authroties on October 1 and 5, the judge asked the land acquisition officer/tahsildar to pass orders on the representations within two weeks. He, however, did not restrain the authorities from "putting up service lane on the demolished area of the petitioners' property."

The mini-flyover project at the Cenotaph Road-Turnbulls Road junction has already passed through two rounds of litigations, over the acquisition of lands and the manner of acquisition by the authorities. Now the petitioners' objection is over the service lane.

They said the lands over and above the sanctioned plan was sought to be acquired. Calling for uniformity in the acquisition proceedings, the petitioners said otherwise bottleneck would be formed in the area affecting the free flow of traffic and causing great inconvenience to road-users.


Source: TOI (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/Residents-approach-court-against-land-acquistion-for-flyover-project/articleshow/5231468.cms)

^^

Opps that elevated high speed circular corridor is in papers!! :lol::lol:

The Maduravoyl interchange is the part of Chennai bye-pass expressway,Port expressway and Ponamalle free way. Nothing to do with the circular high speed corridor

This grade separator is part of " Chennai by pass - Phase II construction only. When this was started ( 2004-05), the port corridor was not even in discussion stage.

^^

Opps that elevated high speed circular corridor is in papers!! :lol::lol:

The Maduravoyl interchange is the part of Chennai bye-pass expressway,Port expressway and Ponamalle free way. Nothing to do with the circular high speed corridor

This grade separator is part of " Chennai by pass - Phase II construction only. When this was started ( 2004-05), the port corridor was not even in discussion stage.

Port Expressway, Chennai bypass all have been put under HSCTC in Jan 2008. It was even mentioned in Governor's address. :)

^^ That part is taken from Wikipedia. :P. And Chennai Bypass will be taken over (once construction is over) into HSCTC right? The committee has told NHAI to construct Chennai Bypass outside CMA. :lol:

Outside CMA? NHAI will do that in 2100!:lol:

But by then we will have 4 ring roads if NHAI do that.

1. Ring road no.1 - IRR
2. Ring road no.2 - Present bye-pass
3. Ring road no.3 - ORR
4. Ring road no.4 - Future bye-pass

And guess 2 more ring roads part of circular corridor!

^^

http://epaper.dinamalar.com/DM/DINAMALAR/2009/11/14/photographs/013/14_11_2009_013_013_001.jpg

Source: Dinamalar



The passage under the railway line seems to be very small!
So no to heavy vehicles? Guys do you have any closer pictures of this subway?

Turn bulls flyover works completed

http://i48.tinypic.com/23hosnl.jpg

TM

This flyover is looking nice.

Is this an approved design? We've seen no mention of it in any news paper or by any politician?

TNRDC's Trumpet Interchange design http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=612708&page=56 was rejected by the Government, due to land acquisition issues and objections from nearby educational institutions (IIT? & KV- CLRI??).

Wikipedia has the updated details
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madhya_Kailash_Junction

TNRDC's Trumpet Interchange design http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=612708&page=56 was rejected by the Government, due to land acquisition issues and objections from nearby educational institutions (IIT? & KV- CLRI??).

Wikipedia has the updated details
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madhya_Kailash_Junction

That's bad news!!!:bash: Since the reason is land acquisition, the only design left to make this junction signal free is a full Y type interchange! I doubt if this can be implemented considering that MRTS passes very close to the junction.:ohno:The design would require a lot of tweaking to take all this into consideration.I am pissed with KV-CLRI though!!! Its the same school (if i am not wrong)which was demanding a ped crossing for their students!!They deserve shit!! nyway below is an illustration of a full Y interchange.

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/3962/knooppuntdriehoek.png (http://img5.imageshack.us/i/knooppuntdriehoek.png/)

CHENNAI: Coming to a city where flyovers are seen as a panacea for traffic congestion, Enrique Penalosa would certainly have experienced a sense of
"been there, done that".

Best known for introducing a bus rapid transport system (BRTS) in Bogota which revolutionised the way people travelled, the Latin American city's former mayor is currently on an India tour in his role as a global evangelist for public transport. Day one was spent listening to Chennai's administrators talk about the number of bridges built over roads in the past 10 years and the loss of pedestrian space. But the guru of BRTS says flyovers would only lead to promoting use of private vehicles, increase in congestion and a decline in the quality of life for those who live beside these elevated roads.

"More flyovers, elevated roads and overbridges will not solve traffic problems in the long run. Building roads means adding more vehicles, but improving bus systems means moving more people faster," says Penalosa, who is president of Institute for Transportation and Development Policy (ITDP), an organisation that promotes environmentally sustainable and equitable transportation policies and projects. Penalosa, who made a number of improvements in public transport while he held office, was here for an interactive session organised by Chennai City Connect with the mayor Ma Subramanian, corporation commissioner Rajesh Lakhoni and members of the Confederation of Indian Industry (CII).

The BRTS model he promotes provides exclusive bus lanes in the centre of arterial roads to increase speed and frequency of services and enable mass movement of commuters. Penalosa has become a consultant for administrations around the world which have wanted to travel the same route.

In India, Delhi, Pune and Ahmedabad have BRTS, although it hasn't been a success anywhere except Ahmedabad, where it was just inaugurated in October. "The system wasn't planned well in Delhi," says Penalosa. "ITDP has worked on the Ahmedabad system and it is based on Bogota's TransMilenio system," he says. Bhopal, Indore, Visakhapatnam, Vijaywada, Jaipur and Rajkot have received grants under the Jawaharlal Nehru National Urban Renewal Mission for BRTS. Chennai too has been toying with the idea of BRTS and Penalosa is an enthusiastic advocate.

"Chennai has a great opportunity to build a good BRTS. You need a high frequency, low-cost system to move lots of people. It will improve people's mobility and it's much cheaper than building a Metro rail," he says. "Cars will go slower, but more people will take the bus because it's faster and cheaper."

He draws a parallel between the rapid industrialisation of Chennai and cities in Latin America. "You can learn from the wrong things we did and not repeat them," he says, laughing. Among the things he has done right and has received international acclaim for is promoting a model in Bogota that gave priority to pedestrians and developing public spaces, by restricting use of private cars, building pavements and bicycle paths, and removing parking on footpaths.

Earlier, mayor M Subramanian talked about the new flyovers planned to ease traffic congestion, while commissioner Rajesh Lakhoni said the city was increasing pavement space. Gayathri Sriram, director of Ucal and CII Chennai chairperson said CMDA's second master plan had estimated that Chennai's population would grow to 12.5 million by 2025, which meant there was need for world class infrastructure. Chennai City Connect committee member and vice-chairman of Hinduja automotive, V Sumatran said Penalosa's advice was critical to finding solutions to traffic congestion.

Source:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/Flyovers-wont-help-untangle-traffic-snarls/articleshow/5248736.cms

Hi friends!!
is there place for BRTS in chennai???

"More flyovers, elevated roads and overbridges will not solve traffic problems in the long run. Building roads means adding more vehicles, but improving bus systems means moving more people faster," says Penalosa, who is president of Institute for Transportation and Development Policy (ITDP), an organisation that promotes environmentally sustainable and equitable transportation policies and projects.

i don't know how true that is. everyone aspires to own a car and wants better infrastructure including more flyovers. and when one buys a car, they pay road tax. is this sufficient to maintain and build additional road infrastructure? may be if government is more efficient. but more importantly is it really in-equitable as the author says above? here is a quick run through some numbers for peak hour when demand for infrastructure is highest:

personal car:
avg. cost: 4 lakhs
life time tax: 8%
road tax: rs. 32,000
life: 10 years
road tax/annum: rs. 3200

public transport buses within cma:
road tax: rs. 100/seat/quarter (source: http://www.tn.gov.in/sta/t3.html)
# of seats: 50
road tax/annum: rs. 20,000

car uses only 50% as much road space. so a bus is equivalent of 2 cars. if we assume car is 50% faster and there by spending that much less time/congestion on road, would mean a bus is equivalent of 3 cars. road tax of 3 cars is about rs. 9,600, half that of a bus.

that is inequitable and in favor of cars. until now i always believed car owners such as me were subsidizing such road developemnt. and if we consider that a bus carries about 30 times as many people, congestion created by such private vehicles is clearly not fair to bus commuters.

i support increasing road tax to 16% from 8% just to make it equitable. and i doubt if that will solve the congestion. if it doesn't, increase it by another 50%. for bus commuters this 50% increase is very marginal: they would pay just another rs. 50/seat/quarter or just 50 paise/seat/day or 10/paise/seat/trip.

but with such a road tax structure (based on cost), people may still buy a car but a cheaper car. ideally this rate should be heavily weighted on amount of road space a car uses.

^^

Many times I see a car carries just a single person, In which case your 2 cars = 1 bus equation is bit odd. But then, Is there a way you could tally this, like the avg number of cars/buses per hour, which is nothing but the occupancy of the road?

One more thing. Not everyone brings their family to office :)(trying to justify my first line), or not always four colleagues travel together in one person's car. Imagine, if 10 individuals traveling alone in a car, alights a bus, won't it reduce the road occupancy. Peak hours is what we are more concerned about.

Despite all the above , I totally agree that everyone(most) wants to own a car, travel with comfort, etc.. who will not ?

I am not debating, just putting my view.
Please bear with me if I am wrong, as I am not good with the numbers :)

^^
that was just a back of envelope calculations and i was simply trying to get a perspective for equitability part of it. number of people should not matter. it is only space used by vehicle that is relevant. we can debate that.

in my previous calculations, i have assumed that a bus and car make similar number of trips. that is not exactly correct - car makes just 2 trips whereas a bus makes many trips a day with different capacities. i have essentially assumed during peak hours when we have infrastructure bottleneck, that these buses would only be able to make one trip and that cost of trip during non-peak hour is free of cost. that is the reason i mentioned about demand during peak hour - people would be willing to pay more to be able to commute during these peak hours if roads were tolled based on usage instead of such life time road tax we have today.

note that although a bus pays more, a bus commuter pays a lot less about 25 paise/trip (rs. 100 a seat a quarter/60 days a quarter/avg 4 trips a day with peak hour passenger load) compared to one car passenger who pays rs. 5 (rs. 3200 pa/200 days a year/2 trips a day/1.6 seats/persons a car - all approx). also, a car only travels (10 km) half avg. distance compared to a bus (20 km). so a car passenger effectively pays rs. 10 compared to a bus passenger who pays rs. 0.25 for similar distance.

^^
it is not just india, entire world needs to change to adapt to cost based on peak needs. in energy esp. electricity, many countries are moving to systems where consumers pay more during peak usages. in india, while electicity distribution company pays for such peak usages it averages these and so all consumer pay avg. rate. with regards roads and new flyovers necessary to remove bottlenecks, i don't believe anyone city has solved pricing aspect. many countries do have higher tolls for entering a city during peak hours and i know singapore has higher tolls on highways (& i think parking lots as well) during peak hours. but i doubt any one really charges based on usage (in terms of kms driven) of city roads and during such peak hours.

We all know the state of Chennai road's after every monsoon season.They are flooded,full of muck,potholes(read craters) and manholes left open.Howcome we go through this misery every year and nothing is being done about it.Technology in road infrastructure has grown leaps and bounds.At last we have National Highways that are up there with the rest of the world in terms of design and durability.

But whats with our city roads..24/7,365 days a year they are dug up at some part or the other by EB,PWD,TEL COM comanies and who not.Once the job is done,the patch up done with bricks and gravel is neither even nor long lasting. Shouldn't the people digging up be held responsible for getting the roads back the way they were!!I mean is this some kind of a cycle they follow?The road taxes thatwe pay are not used to lay roads for good but for patching up the roads in the most pathetic way that can break a rib or two. Aren't roads supposed to last much longer than they do in the City??The roads under the new GN Chetty Flyover are not a year old,they have been dug a different places,potholes can be found and are now filled with bricks and mud...add to that the number of political banners that were erected the day before inaguration by digging up the road laid the previous day.We all know that its not the case in other parts of the world..There have been roads in the state laid by the British that have lasted for 40+ years.Whereas the current ones hardly last for a year..Its not that the corporation does not have access to better technology or raw material...They just take the public for granted...Some how the mount roads tarmac seems to be better laid as it seldom has potholes or craters.
Why is the treatment diff to other road surfaces??Is it that the public as taxpayers don't deserve a decent road infrastructure or is that the govt. just takes us for granted?Road surfaces i have seen in Dubai,USA and other developing nations are with a lot better quality and durability..And many of us have witnessed the same while travelling abroad.
My question is...is there anyway we can use RTI to get the facts on the design,build quality and tarmac/bitumen levels & quality control? I'm sure that lot of us would agree that our city roads need to last at least 10+ years(world standards are much higher)before a major overhaul.

P.S.--Mods,i feel this discussion needs a separate thread if you think we can form a group and take this ahead..

Hi friends!!
is there place for BRTS in chennai???

We all know the state of Chennai road's after every monsoon season.They are flooded,full of muck,potholes(read craters) and manholes left open.Howcome we go through this misery every year and nothing is being done about it.Technology in road infrastructure has grown leaps and bounds.At last we have National Highways that are up there with the rest of the world in terms of design and durability.

But whats with our city roads..24/7,365 days a year they are dug up at some part or the other by EB,PWD,TEL COM comanies and who not.Once the job is done,the patch up done with bricks and gravel is neither even nor long lasting. Shouldn't the people digging up be held responsible for getting the roads back the way they were!!I mean is this some kind of a cycle they follow?The road taxes thatwe pay are not used to lay roads for good but for patching up the roads in the most pathetic way that can break a rib or two. Aren't roads supposed to last much longer than they do in the City??The roads under the new GN Chetty Flyover are not a year old,they have been dug a different places,potholes can be found and are now filled with bricks and mud...add to that the number of political banners that were erected the day before inaguration by digging up the road laid the previous day.We all know that its not the case in other parts of the world..There have been roads in the state laid by the British that have lasted for 40+ years.Whereas the current ones hardly last for a year..Its not that the corporation does not have access to better technology or raw material...They just take the public for granted...Some how the mount roads tarmac seems to be better laid as it seldom has potholes or craters.
Why is the treatment diff to other road surfaces??Is it that the public as taxpayers don't deserve a decent road infrastructure or is that the govt. just takes us for granted?Road surfaces i have seen in Dubai,USA and other developing nations are with a lot better quality and durability..And many of us have witnessed the same while travelling abroad.
My question is...is there anyway we can use RTI to get the facts on the design,build quality and tarmac/bitumen levels & quality control? I'm sure that lot of us would agree that our city roads need to last at least 10+ years(world standards are much higher)before a major overhaul.

P.S.--Mods,i feel this discussion needs a separate thread if you think we can form a group and take this ahead..
Yes, certainly lot of things can be done using RTI. All it takes is 10rs(IPO). If you dont have the time to go to post office, you can do it completely online through a RTI NGO site(www.rtination.com) for a charge of Rs. 125.


Check out the following links
1. www.rtination.com - A site through which you can file RTI online. Charges Rs.125, all inclusive.
2. www.rtiindia.org - A forum where RTI enthusists discuss. Check out the success stories thread!
3. www.tn.gov.in/rti/pio_appellate.htm - TN govt website which lists various departments and contact to whom the RTI applications needs to be addressed.


To start we can take some streches where we smell fishy executions, and send queries asking for total cost, maintenance period, contract details etc. The details can be posted in this forum and we could discuss further.

Public Works Department
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Public Information Officer : Thiru N.Venugopalan,
Deputy Secretary (Krishna Water) to the Government
Public Works Department,
Secretariat, Chennai-600 009

Appellate Authority : Thiru M.Thanapathy,
Special Secretary to the Government
Public Works Department,
Secretariat, Chennai-600 009

i don't know how true that is. everyone aspires to own a car and wants better infrastructure including more flyovers. and when one buys a car, they pay road tax. is this sufficient to maintain and build additional road infrastructure? may be if government is more efficient. but more importantly is it really in-equitable as the author says above? here is a quick run through some numbers for peak hour when demand for infrastructure is highest:
personal car:
avg. cost: 4 lakhs
life time tax: 8%
road tax: rs. 32,000
life: 10 years
road tax/annum: rs. 3200

public transport buses within cma:
road tax: rs. 100/seat/quarter (source: http://www.tn.gov.in/sta/t3.html)
# of seats: 50
road tax/annum: rs. 20,000

car uses only 50% as much road space. so a bus is equivalent of 2 cars. if we assume car is 50% faster and there by spending that much less time/congestion on road, would mean a bus is equivalent of 3 cars. road tax of 3 cars is about rs. 9,600, half that of a bus.

that is inequitable and in favor of cars. until now i always believed car owners such as me were subsidizing such road developemnt. and if we consider that a bus carries about 30 times as many people, congestion created by such private vehicles is clearly not fair to bus commuters.

i support increasing road tax to 16% from 8% just to make it equitable. and i doubt if that will solve the congestion. if it doesn't, increase it by another 50%. for bus commuters this 50% increase is very marginal: they would pay just another rs. 50/seat/quarter or just 50 paise/seat/day or 10/paise/seat/trip.

but with such a road tax structure (based on cost), people may still buy a car but a cheaper car. ideally this rate should be heavily weighted on amount of road space a car uses.


The road-tax hike may chime in money in the treasuries which may or may not translate to more infrastructure, even if it does we all know whats the ratio considering the red-tapes and ethics of the machineries involved.

But one of the better ways to control congestion is :-

to control the number of vehicles let out of the factories, for sale. i am not sure if there is something in place. horses for the courses. think of it, if you're running a race-car track .. will you allow more than what the track can hold. we cannot allow an insane number of 4wheelers jamming the vehicles anymore. whatever that means, enforcement or government regulation.

the government should implement erp- electronic road pricing to reduce traffic. It is good that many people buy cars but they must not be allowed to use it whenever they want but only in the case of something urgent or an emergency.

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/iw/2009/11/22/stories/2009112250651500.htm

Roads and bridges cannot support efficient urban transport systems but public transport systems can. The solution to urban mobility is in an efficient allocation of road space with priority for a well-designed public transportation system, cycle tracks and footpaths, and not just for cars that cater to the few. An efficient Bus Rapid Transport System (BRTS) is low cost and can serve better than subway trains, argues Mr Enrique Penalosa, President, Institute for Transportation and Development Policy.

The US-based institute works for environmentally sustainable and equitable transportation policies across the world. As a former Mayor of Bogota, Colombia, Mr Penalosa implemented the TransMilenio, a BRTS, which is considered among the most efficient in terms of cost and speed. Here he shares his views on public transportation with Business Line.

Excerpts from the interview:

You say wider roads and flyovers cannot solve traffic problems. But this runs counter to prevailing practice. Why should things change?

There are two reasons to start doing things differently. One is about equity and quality of life. When extensive infrastructure is created for cars at the expense of pedestrian space, there is a conflict. Remember, 90 per cent of the people in Chennai, or in any Indian city, do not have cars and space is a limited resource that has to allocated equitably.

And the other is technical. Cities anywhere in the world have been able to address urban mobility only with public transport, not with longer roads and flyovers. This is not my idea. The biggest political movements in the second half of the 20th century in large western cities were those against highways cutting through urban areas. In New York, Jane Jacobs, author of The Death and Life of Great American Cities, led the movement against a highway through Manhattan. But in many cities it happened and they discovered that the quality of life was hurt. In our case (Bogota), it was done top down. I was inspired by the success stories and when elected (as mayor) I implemented the ideas. There is a tremendous scarcity of space and so the need to allocate and use the resource efficiently. With a good BRTS, one lane can move 40,000 people an hour. A car lane can move about 1,800.

So, if you are going to have bridges and flyovers, then do have exclusive lanes for buses from the beginning. The flyovers will get jammed with traffic anyway but at least a large number of people will continue to move. Subways (trains) are wonderful but it is nearly always difficult to have the huge resources needed and they are expensive. So you need a great quality bus system with high capacities and high speed.

How does a subway system compare with a BRTS?

A kilometre of BRTS system can cost up to $10 million but a subway can cost much, much more. A BRTS is not just about exclusive lanes for buses. It is an entire system with properly designed stations and buses to move large numbers of people in and out fast, automated card payment systems, and so on. That is why it is a success only when done properly, as in Istanbul or Bogota. In Delhi, because of the design, people like the Metro and the BRTS, in other cities they can be better.

Why do you emphasise broader pavements at the cost of road space?

Footpaths are not just about equity or happiness. They are an integral part of a mass transport system. A trip starts with a walk. Better the quality of a footpath, the longer will people walk to their destination. In Chennai, people do not seem to realise that they have a right to pavements. They walk on the streets even at risk to their lives. That attitude is common to most developing countries. People in power and the rich will demand space for cars. But everybody benefits from the pavement. The difference between a developed city and a developing city is the quality of public space.

You do not need to park cars at the ground level, taking up street space. They can be underground. But I hear developers say that the regulations here do not allow car park under open places, only under buildings. I do not see why that should be so. Large buildings have a responsibility to the city to improve the pedestrian space around them. But that is a regulatory issue.

How do you sell a concept like this at first?

You should do a few high-quality streets at first — with lanes for a BRT, great bicycle paths and footpaths. The people will realise how a city can be. Look at the future of Chennai. Do you see everybody using cars? That is not possible. Efficient public transport is the solution. Even people with cars will use a fast, efficient and comfortable public transport system. In Bogota, 20 per cent of the BRTS users have cars. London does not allow office buildings to have car parking. This is to encourage people to take public transport.

^^ i hope the government listens to him...it seems short term solutions like flyovers dont work...they should look long term and this mans a genius :)

The road-tax hike may chime in money in the treasuries which may or may not translate to more infrastructure, even if it does we all know whats the ratio considering the red-tapes and ethics of the machineries involved.

But one of the better ways to control congestion is :-

to control the number of vehicles let out of the factories, for sale. i am not sure if there is something in place. horses for the courses. think of it, if you're running a race-car track .. will you allow more than what the track can hold. we cannot allow an insane number of 4wheelers jamming the vehicles anymore. whatever that means, enforcement or government regulation.

higher taxes is a better way to control congestion than such quantitative restrictions. such qr's were popular decades ago for import of goods and have since been abolished by india.

Hi friends!!
is there place for BRTS in chennai???

Yes we have ..

higher taxes is a better way to control congestion than such quantitative restrictions. such qr's were popular decades ago for import of goods and have since been abolished by india.

we are talking about the cars plying on our streets. it has a plethora of impacts on enviroment, energy, producitivity and the society as a whole. the infrastructures we can build around in a city such as chennai is not infinitely exhaustive for sure. nothing such as ORR, IRR, Circular Corridors, bridges, flyovers would suffice if the vehicles keep growing at the rapid pace such as the last decade.

on the other hand, the taxes -- you cannot tax your way out of the problems in this case!! taxes will not deter the folks from getting out there or buying cars. they will find a way. the buyers/commuters/dealers will find a way ..

^^ Similarly, the government can also find some ways to restrict the number of vehicles, I guess.

As mentioned earlier, Singapore has a toll system for the roads and an additional levy if you entered the downtown area. Besides these, more importantly, in order to buy a car, you need to have a COE - Certificate of Entitlement(?) the cost of wich is as much as the price of the car, if not more. Such levies would certainly discourage car buyers but it may be difficult to pass such a law in our country.

we are talking about the cars plying on our streets. it has a plethora of impacts on enviroment, energy, producitivity and the society as a whole. the infrastructures we can build around in a city such as chennai is not infinitely exhaustive for sure. nothing such as ORR, IRR, Circular Corridors, bridges, flyovers would suffice if the vehicles keep growing at the rapid pace such as the last decade.

on the other hand, the taxes -- you cannot tax your way out of the problems in this case!! taxes will not deter the folks from getting out there or buying cars. they will find a way. the buyers/commuters/dealers will find a way ..

yes, we are talking about cars and you were referring to quantitative restrictions. let's say there are a million people who want to buy a car but govt would only allow 100,000. now how do you ration this? these million people take turns to drive 100,000 cars? or, have a thriving black market where highest bidders win them? and how do we decide which manufacturers make them, what kind of cars and in what percentages?

yes, we are talking about cars and you were referring to quantitative restrictions. let's say there are a million people who want to buy a car but govt would only allow 100,000. now how do you ration this? these million people take turns to drive 100,000 cars? or, have a thriving black market where highest bidders win them? and how do we decide which manufacturers make them, what kind of cars and in what percentages?

the questions are valid, but we dont have to answer them. the supply & demand will take care of them. i know we are trying to 'fix' the supply of cars. so, what supply am i talking of?

its the supply of the measures available to commute and the demand to commute. maybe, they will ply more buses or trains or MRTS or more shuttles or the office hours will be adjusted to allow some tele=commuting. or there maybe a shift of center of gravity of the city space, creating a bigger suburban sprawl .. who knows?

as to your last question -- maybe we can embed an energy quotient. the most energy-efficienct makers will prevail. others bad luck, good bye :)

In Singapore people have to change cars every 10 years otherwise they have to pay very high price for COE.

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as to your last question -- maybe we can embed an energy quotient. the most energy-efficienct makers will prevail. others bad luck, good bye :)

where do we draw the line on most energy efficient maker? smallest car? perhaps no car and not even motor bikes - only bicycles & walking?

we are mixing issues here. energy availability is a global issue. likewise global warming. the local issue here is road congestion. this should be solved soon irrrespective whether energy is available or not. there is a cost to build and maintain roads. this needs to be equitably shared.

where do we draw the line on most energy efficient maker? smallest car? perhaps no car and not even motor bikes - only bicycles & walking?

we are mixing issues here. energy availability is a global issue. likewise global warming. the local issue here is road congestion. this should be solved soon irrrespective whether energy is available or not. there is a cost to build and maintain roads. this needs to be equitably shared.

your rationale for equitable tax is naively relying on the ethics or morality of the govt. machineries to reflow every drop of the revenue to the infrastructure projects. they have never earned our trust and we ought to treat them as such, a bunch of burglars, unless proved otherwise by a preponderance of the evidence.

on the other hand, they are the only ones we got. so, i've no problems in making it an equitable tax -- as long as the money is pooled into a special purpose vehicle thats dedicated towards transparency in accounting and spending and answerable to the public. in clear terms, i don't want any politician getting a sniff.

Hi, I am new. I have been following up on the discussions in this forum for quite some time and find them very interesting and informative. I am a Tamil and was living in Chennai for 6 years and I feel it is very important to make Chennai as the best city to live in India.

Coming to the topic, I am now living in London and here we have the world's best metro. It is known as 'tube' colloquially. 'Transport for London' is the authority that maintains both the tube and the buses. From my experience here I can assure you that buses can never be the best mode of transport in a growing city like Chennai. Tube is the best and fast way to move large number of people. Here many people use buses only as connection between tube stations or to go to places that are a little away from the tube stations. If it takes 40 mins to reach a place through tube it would take 2 hrs to reach the same place by bus. So you know the difference.

Congestion charge is enforced in Central London in all days except holidays. It has reduced traffic in that area. Such a charge can be enforced in Chennai only when the public transport becomes good. For that BRTS or MRTS is not the answer, we need a combination of both metro and buses.

Hi, I am new. I have been following up on the discussions in this forum for quite some time and find them very interesting and informative. I am a Tamil and was living in Chennai for 6 years and I feel it is very important to make Chennai as the best city to live in India.

Coming to the topic, I am now living in London and here we have the world's best metro. It is known as 'tube' colloquially. 'Transport for London' is the authority that maintains both the tube and the buses. From my experience here I can assure you that buses can never be the best mode of transport in a growing city like Chennai. Tube is the best and fast way to move large number of people. Here many people use buses only as connection between tube stations or to go to places that are a little away from the tube stations. If it takes 40 mins to reach a place through tube it would take 2 hrs to reach the same place by bus. So you know the difference.

Congestion charge is enforced in Central London in all days except holidays. It has reduced traffic in that area. Such a charge can be enforced in Chennai only when the public transport becomes good. For that BRTS or MRTS is not the answer, we need a combination of both metro and buses.

I appreciate your love for the city and your desire to bring it up to world standards. However, I think a well designed BRT would be the most cost effective solution, because of it's significant cost savings and metro style frequency,punctuality and number of people travelling per hour. I'm assuming that you don't prefer buses here because they're very slow and unreliable. This is due to the fact that there are no separate bus lanes here and buses share the roads with a huge volume of vehicular traffic and suffer from right of passage issues. I think a well designed BRTS with multi tier roads and clearly demarkated bus lanes for use only by brt buses would drastically reduce travel times and increase reliability and passenger volume. Anyway, since the metro is already underway in chennai, I think the BRTS thats coming up would complement the metro very well and would make public transport very much preferable if the unified transport authority initiative takes off well and makes intermodal transport easy for passengers.

Welcome to the forum, shaan1616.

Yes, well planned BRTS will definitely be a challenge for Metro. One major advantage going for BRTS will be reducing the road accidents. Once you split the MTC buses from normal traffic, many lives will be saved.

Anyway, since the metro is already underway in chennai, I think the BRTS thats coming up would complement the metro very well and would make public transport very much preferable if the unified transport authority initiative takes off well and makes intermodal transport easy for passengers.

thats true. BRTS should complement metro to make travel better for people.

with all the flyovers ready chennai will be a world class city yet retaining cultural values.

^^ That is a distant dream. Chennai is nowhere close to attaining that world-class city status! There's much to be done in the basic infra like sewage, solid waste, drainage, public transport, etc. to name a few.

^^ That is a distant dream. Chennai is nowhere close to attaining that world-class city status! There's much to be done in the basic infra like sewage, solid waste, drainage, public transport, etc. to name a few.


The sad things is the powers that be are focused on flyovers etc to show grandiose rather than solving basic problems like drianage, sewage etc. A world class city needs these as a given only then can start talking of skyscrapers, flyovers, cars etc.

First and foremost, the Chennai City planning has to be strengthened a lot.

We have missed that part within the city limits. But at least the growing suburbs should concentrate on the planning.
Not comparing any cities: Take for example Chicago, after the major fire; the city has been planned well.

The following has impressed me about the city
1. Foot path will not have single shop extending their territory. (Chennai : There is foot path, I don’t object that)
2. Fire hydrants outlets in front of all buildings – parking banned in front of it. (Chennai : But fires occurs mostly in hut density areas)
3. Sign board every half a mile/ 1 mile – saying the next exit, etc. (Chennai :We have removed the hoardings, lets have sign boards)

My dream is to make Chennai a real iconic place for good examples!

First and foremost, the Chennai City planning has to be strengthened a lot.

We have missed that part within the city limits. But at least the growing suburbs should concentrate on the planning.
Not comparing any cities: Take for example Chicago, after the major fire; the city has been planned well.

The following has impressed me about the city
1. Foot path will not have single shop extending their territory. (Chennai : There is foot path, I don’t object that)
2. Fire hydrants outlets in front of all buildings – parking banned in front of it. (Chennai : But fires occurs mostly in hut density areas)
3. Sign board every half a mile/ 1 mile – saying the next exit, etc. (Chennai :We have removed the hoardings, lets have sign boards)

My dream is to make Chennai a real iconic place for good examples!

well... There is honestly no concept of side walks in Chennai. Almost all the sidewalks in the city are occupied by street hawkers. If you go to places like T.Nagar, Triplicane, Parry's Corner, you will understand what I mean. I once argued with a hawker on the platform and he said that these hawkers have a trade union and they pay a part of the income to this union every month. Now tell me how can these unions function without the support of the state government? Any state government that doesn't care about side walks in the main roads and prefers to earn money by letting out the side walks for street hawkers would never prefer to do proper planning for the development of the city. If you think, this just happens in Chennai, I request you to go to places like Trichy, Madurai and other Tier2 cities in Tamilnadu. the situation there is even worse. In places like Madurai, all these street hawkers are backed up by the gundas of Azhagiri. You can't even dare to question them.

Secondly, water clogging in the state has been a chronic problem and I have seen how bad it is since I was 5 years old and its almost been 20 years now and still there is not an iota of improvement or prevention measures done by the state government. Had this problem been in Gujarat, Mr. Modi would have fixed it within three years. All it requires is certain responsibility, sense of state and hence national pride to make perfect planning. As far as TN is concerned I am sorry to say that neither the DMK nor the ADMK government has these characters and hence I don't see perfect plannings and transparent implementations happening in the near future.

Having said that, I would be extremely happy if the current government in TN proves me wrong.

Cheers!

BRTS should be planned as a complementary network to the Metro Rail, MRTS and the existing Beach Tambaram Chengalpattu, Central Arakkonam Lines.

We need buses to those areas which are not connected by Train network and there should be hubs in all directions of expansion with common terminus so that the people can smoothly change over from one to another. Even a single point ticketing will help.

My son reaches his school in Mylapore from Adyar in a few minutes now by using the MRTS whereas earlier he had to spend 2 hours every morning by using the school bus which covers the Adyar, Thiruvanmiyur and ECR / OMR areas.

CMDA is responsible for the stations (space over and under the tracks) and they have a million other problems and issues to tackle than this. It is better if it is transferred to a more competent authority.

By improving the economy of operation of the stations, the upkeep will improve and the volume of passengers will soar.

BRTS should be planned as a complementary network to the Metro Rail, MRTS and the existing Beach Tambaram Chengalpattu, Central Arakkonam Lines.

We need buses to those areas which are not connected by Train network and there should be hubs in all directions of expansion with common terminus so that the people can smoothly change over from one to another. Even a single point ticketing will help.

My son reaches his school in Mylapore from Adyar in a few minutes now by using the MRTS whereas earlier he had to spend 2 hours every morning by using the school bus which covers the Adyar, Thiruvanmiyur and ECR / OMR areas.

CMDA is responsible for the stations (space over and under the tracks) and they have a million other problems and issues to tackle than this. It is better if it is transferred to a more competent authority.

By improving the economy of operation of the stations, the upkeep will improve and the volume of passengers will soar.


Good point. But there is nothing happening on the BRTS front. With BRTS, we will have a comprehensive transport network and that should go a long way in reducing congestion. I also wish phases 3 & 4 of Metro are also launched asap plus train / metro connectivity to Sriperumbudur.

BRTS should be planned as a complementary network to the Metro Rail, MRTS and the existing Beach Tambaram Chengalpattu, Central Arakkonam Lines.

We need buses to those areas which are not connected by Train network and there should be hubs in all directions of expansion with common terminus so that the people can smoothly change over from one to another. Even a single point ticketing will help.

My son reaches his school in Mylapore from Adyar in a few minutes now by using the MRTS whereas earlier he had to spend 2 hours every morning by using the school bus which covers the Adyar, Thiruvanmiyur and ECR / OMR areas.

CMDA is responsible for the stations (space over and under the tracks) and they have a million other problems and issues to tackle than this. It is better if it is transferred to a more competent authority.

By improving the economy of operation of the stations, the upkeep will improve and the volume of passengers will soar.

agree with you except on that 2 hr part every morning. driving distance between adyar - mylapore is only 10 min. if it took longer than that, blame it on the school & it's bus route.

agree with you except on that 2 hr part every morning. driving distance between adyar - mylapore is only 10 min. if it took longer than that, blame it on the school & it's bus route.

But in reality, thats how we / our people have been wasting our time, fuel etc.

It takes min 30 mins by car to reach the school (during traffic jams, more time) and the two way travel gobbles up 2 litres of petrol.

MRTS should be utilised more effectively. It just takes approx 5 minutes to reach Mylapore station from KB Nagar station.

First and foremost, the Chennai City planning has to be strengthened a lot.

We have missed that part within the city limits. But at least the growing suburbs should concentrate on the planning.
Not comparing any cities: Take for example Chicago, after the major fire; the city has been planned well.

The following has impressed me about the city
1. Foot path will not have single shop extending their territory. (Chennai : There is foot path, I don’t object that)
2. Fire hydrants outlets in front of all buildings – parking banned in front of it. (Chennai : But fires occurs mostly in hut density areas)
3. Sign board every half a mile/ 1 mile – saying the next exit, etc. (Chennai :We have removed the hoardings, lets have sign boards)

My dream is to make Chennai a real iconic place for good examples!

I live in Chicago and I agree. The Majority of roads in downtown chicago are 40 ft wide not very different from Chennai.The traffic management is way more efficient here with expressways,multi tier roads,properly maintained sidewalks,traffic signals,useful and easy to understand signboards and proper traffic law enforcement. All this is not to say traffic problems are nonexistent here.The number of cars in chicago is humungous and busy roads get choked often and parking space can be real scarce.I just want to point out that tried and tested models can easily be replicated in chennai if given the political will, liberal inflow of funds and transparency in government.:)

But in reality, thats how we / our people have been wasting our time, fuel etc.

It takes min 30 mins by car to reach the school (during traffic jams, more time) and the two way travel gobbles up 2 litres of petrol.

MRTS should be utilised more effectively. It just takes approx 5 minutes to reach Mylapore station from KB Nagar station.

I agree its a total waste of energy and major pollutant.

But what happens if you need to walk for a few minutes from KB Nagar? I dont mind walking .. if the pavements are decent. Most people have to take a bus to reach their final destination. A metro system must connect so that the commuters don't have to walk more than a few blocks.. max 15 mts walking.

If not, there need to be some organized bus-pooling or shuttles, not run by employers, but private run with monthly subscription schemes.

I agree its a total waste of energy and major pollutant.

But what happens if you need to walk for a few minutes from KB Nagar? I dont mind walking .. if the pavements are decent. Most people have to take a bus to reach their final destination. A metro system must connect so that the commuters don't have to walk more than a few blocks.. max 15 mts walking.

If not, there need to be some organized bus-pooling or shuttles, not run by employers, but private run with monthly subscription schemes.

Though the Share Autos are a menace to the public on the roads, they serve very effectively as last mile transport between the railway station / Bus terminus / Stop and the destinations of the public.

Most of the suburbs rely on these as the public transport is almost not available.

I am also seeing thers Share Autos as vital link along ECR and OMR as the Public Transport is grossly inadequate.

The Govt can regualarise the operation with better control on emission standards and traffic rule violations.

http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?Title=Flyover+on+GST+Road+to+open+soon&artid=nT53kxAOJv8=&SectionID=lifojHIWDUU=&MainSectionID=b7ziAYMenjw=&SectionName=rSY|6QYp3kQ=&SEO=State%20Highways%20Minister%20Vellakoil%20MP%20Swaminathan

Construction work for the road overbridge (ROB) linking GST Road and the Pallavaram Thoraipakkam Road is nearing completion and it is likely to be opened soon, State Highways Minister Vellakoil MP Swaminathan said here on Thursday.
Speaking to reporters after inspecting the work on the GST Road side of the ROB in Pallavaram, Swaminathan said work will be over in the next few months. “Officials have been asked to ensure completion of work as per schedule.” Pallavaram Municipal Chairman E Karunanidhi who accompanied the minister said the work on the railway side and on the Pallavaram Thoraipakkam Road portion was over.
The new facility is expected to provide quick access to the airport from Rajiv Gandhi Salai (Old Mahabalipuram Road previously) and the IT corridor besides help ease congestion. Work on the GST Road side will be completed soon. Similarly, the overbridge in Easwari Nagar nearby is nearing completion and would be opened soon.

Corporation gives nod for acquisition of land for Ganesapuram flyover (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/Corporation-gives-nod-for-acquisition-of-land-for-Ganesapuram-flyover/articleshow/5286041.cms)
TNN 1 December 2009, 01:58am IST

CHENNAI: On Monday, the elected council of the corporation gave its consent for the disbursement of a sum of Rs 13.95 crore for acquiring lands measuring 28 grounds, to facilitate the construction of a flyover at the Ganesapuram subway in Vysarpadi.

According to plan, the the four-lane flyover will be 651 m long and 16.6 m wide. The project, part of the DMK-led council's schemes for the development of north Chennai, will cost the exchequer Rs 61.7 crore. Of this, acquisition of land will cost Rs 16 crore and Rs 10 crore will be paid to service agencies to shift service lines such as sewer mains, water lines and power cables.

"The advance amount of Rs 13.95 crore will be handed over to revenue officials of the Purasawalkam-Perambur taluk in the coming days," mayor M Subramanian said. Sources said that revenue officials would shortly serve notices to owners of land coming in the alignment zone, seeking claims and objections. The affected parties will be given a fortnight to present cases.

Though the local body conveyed the nature of acquisitions and number of properties required in February this year, the commissioner of land acquisition, the muncipal administration and water supply department took time to clear files and pass an order, sources pointed out. Corporation officials are now holding talks with the railways for official consent to the drawings since the flyover will come above the Chennai Central-Arakkonam line.

Once the project is completed, residents of Moolakadai, Madhavaram, Bhaktavatsalam Colony, Vysarpadi and Sharma Nagar near GNT Road will benefit. The Ganesapuram subway often gets flooded even after a short spell of rain and motorists are forced to take a detour to Perambur and Loco Works.

Corporation gives nod for acquisition of land for Ganesapuram flyover (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/Corporation-gives-nod-for-acquisition-of-land-for-Ganesapuram-flyover/articleshow/5286041.cms)
TNN 1 December 2009, 01:58am IST

Even next year there wud be no respite from rain for vyasarpadi. It might take more than 2 years for this flyover to come up

Turn bulls flyover to be opened on 11th Dec:

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Dinakaran

^^ Wow we have our first skywalk !!

this looks like skywalk...:lol:

lol!!:lol:

Seriously! Watsup with all the two lane flyovers? If a vehicle breaks down on the flyover, it will be a big mess!

Seriously! Watsup with all the two lane flyovers? If a vehicle breaks down on the flyover, it will be a big mess!

hey on the brighter side -- its a sumptuous 2 lane flyover for 2 wheelers only.
stay +ve guys. :banana:

Its as wide as Pantheon road flyover. This is not the first skywalk..

I wish they spend half the time and energy spent on this flyover to finalise the proposed 5 flyovers in Mt Road, flyover in 100 ft road in Vadapalani, LB Road flyover and such other flyovers in important junctions.

Is there any proposal for a flyover at vijayanagar jn. in velachery??? I guess i heard abt something few months back...

Is this flyover for 2 wheelers only?

^^Its the same width as Mahalingapuram flyover. I think their gamble is that since its only about 500mts long, vehicles breaking down in this stretch could be a rarity. Even on Mahalingapuram flyover didnt read anywhere abt vehicles breaking down till now. So same logic here also. But lets see the fun once its opened

Turn bulls flyover to be opened on 11th Dec:


Dinakaran

I like this colour combination - green & white ...instead of usual black and white...

Should be a nice view for those living on top floor of those buldings..lol

CHENNAI: Despite the intervention of spells of rain and some rounds of litigation, the Chennai corporation has completed the construction of a flyover on the Cenotaph Road-Turnbulls Road junction. The flyover will be thrown open to traffic by chief minister M Karunanidhi on Friday evening.

The local body commenced the construction of Rs 19.93-crore bridge in February this year. The flyover is expected to decongest in and around Nandanam to a greater extent, as vehicles from the southern suburbs will move on Anna Salai without any hassles. The traffic police is likely to re-introduce two-way traffic on the busy Cenotaph Road, Turnbulls Road, and Chamiers Road, say official sources.

They said the department was examining the proposal to allow buses and other heavy vehicles on the flyover, which is 458 metres long and 8 metres wide and will allow two-lane traffic. Though the flyover has adequate space for two-way traffic, the curve on one end is discouraging the thought of allowing heavy vehicles.

Traffic police authorities are in consultation with corporation officials to formulate the traffic plan once the bridge is thrown open. Additional commissioner for traffic Shakeel Akhter said the police would formally announce new traffic plan on Thursday.

The flyover is expected to help motorists from Tiruvanmiyur, Adyar, IT corridor and the southern suburbs reach Anna Salai without any hold-ups.

The flyover itself got mired in controversy even before the construction. The local body originally preferred to build the facility on Chamiers Road and Adyar Gate Club Road, diagonally opposite the present alignment. Following representations from residents' welfare associations, the issue was taken up with the Anna University and traffic police, and the alignment altered.

The project was also caught in litigation, when residents moved the court against the civic body's decision to invoke the urgency clause for acquisition of lands for the project.

The vehicular subway at the Jones Road level crossing in Saidapet, estimated at Rs 8.89 crore and a high-level bridge costing Rs 9.3 crore at the Alandur causeway were expected to be ready by May itself. The bridge near the corporation slaughter-house in Saidapet will help motorists move onto Ekkaduthangal shortly, rather than the heavily congested GST Road near Guindy and Kathipara junction.

Source: Times Of India (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/CM-to-open-Cenotaph-road-flyover/articleshow/5320408.cms)

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Obviously, since the flyover hasn't been opened yet, we can't tell, but I'd be very surprised if the flyover does anything to alleviate the traffic jam. The majority of the traffic at the intersection, if I remember correctly, comes from Chamiers Road, not Cenotaph. However, I'm willing to be hopeful.

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This bridge is going to create more problems than solving

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CHENNAI: With the inauguration of three more bridges slated on Friday, Chennai would become one of the few cities in the whole country that boasts of such infrastructure in terms of flyovers, bridges and vehicular subways for its residents.

The city already has 16 bridges including the famous Anna Flyover, which was inaugurated way back in 1973 to decongest traffic on Anna Salai and two state-of-the-art NHAI bridges at Kathipara junction in Guindy and at Padi-Villivakkam junction. Besides these, the city will soon have seven more bridges for which construction is on in full swing and another three are in the pipeline. The three new bridges (located at Turn Bulls Road, Alandur Road and Jones Road), which are to be inaugurated by Chief Minister M Karunanidhi, would considerably reduce traffic snarls in those localities.

While the flyover at the Turn Bulls Road-Cenotaph Road intersection is expected to ease traffic from Rajiv Gandhi Salai (IT Corridor) and Kotturpuram to Anna Salai, such facility at Alandur Road, which connects West Saidapet with Guindy Industrial Estate over Adyar River would serve as a shortcut route to reach GST Road without much hassle.

Likewise, the road under bridge (vehicular subway) at Jones Road in Saidapet would provide the motorists a straight access in Inner Ring Road (Jawaharlal Nehru Road) from Anna Salai. The facility would also ensure free flow of traffic from Anna Salai to Guindy Industrial Estate via another new facility, Alandur flyover.

Obviously, since the flyover hasn't been opened yet, we can't tell, but I'd be very surprised if the flyover does anything to alleviate the traffic jam. The majority of the traffic at the intersection, if I remember correctly, comes from Chamiers Road, not Cenotaph. However, I'm willing to be hopeful.

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there have been so many changes at this intersection, it is hard to say. from what i have seen, i think most traffic comes from kotturpuram side. traffic pile up half way into adyar bridge was a daily affair. my guess is 40% of that takes right towards chamiers road & ttk road. 40% goes straight to anna salai. and another 20% left towards venkatanarayanan rd jn.

this flyover would help. but they could have tried to implement a system of one ways, similar to mahalingapuram jn & make it completely signal free.

Decorated flyovers....
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Decorated flyovers....
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hey looks good...thanks for the video...

CHENNAI: The grade separator at the junction of Cenotaph Road-Turnbulls Road was completed in nine months against the original schedule of 15 months, Deputy Chief Minister M.K. Stalin said on Friday.

Participating in a function to mark the inauguration of three facilities in the city, Mr. Stalin said work on the grade separator was launched on February 12. At that time, it was stated that the work would be over in 15 months. But, the work was completed in nine months.

http://www.hindu.com/2009/12/12/stories/2009121259690300.htm

CHENNAI: The grade separator at the junction of Cenotaph Road-Turnbulls Road was completed in nine months against the original schedule of 15 months, Deputy Chief Minister M.K. Stalin said on Friday.

Participating in a function to mark the inauguration of three facilities in the city, Mr. Stalin said work on the grade separator was launched on February 12. At that time, it was stated that the work would be over in 15 months. But, the work was completed in nine months.

http://www.hindu.com/2009/12/12/stories/2009121259690300.htm

We are literally being hoodwinked with such short-sighted projects. The government's list of 'achievements' now keep growing. Most people do not understand the long term implications of such projects. When problems arise again, it'll be blamed on something else.:bash:

Based on my experience, I've seen a huge amount of traffic going from Mount road to Adayar and the IT areas take the chamiers road - turnbulls road route. There is always a huge rush in this direction. Quite a few buses of the IT companies take this route.
As seen in one of the photos above, there is literally no space below the flyover for vehicles moving in this direction. How are the buses going to negotiate this stretch. Won't this again cause pileup at the junction. Shouldn't the flyover at least solve problem in that particular junction? They could've at least adopted a subway-cum-flyover with a subway in the chamiers road junction.

Comprehensive solutions please......... How many years do we have to wait to see someone with some senses take on the reins. People are forced to be satisfied with the "Something is better than nothing" philosophy
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They could've at least adopted a subway-cum-flyover with a subway in the chamiers road junction.


you may need space below road (u/g) for future metro rail. i don't think you need to build complex flyovers at every junction. instead you need to maximize the use of this. but i thought planning authorities could have thought of a permanent plan with a wider flyover and a set of one ways with jug handles that optimize the use of this flyover and make this junction signal free.

well i guess no point blaming them now. if we had better ideas, we all could have participated in the design earlier.

the government should start buying land along the roads......this flyover seems a joke to me......i strongly hope bars are put on either side of the flyover to prevent buses and trucks entering....otherwise this would become an accident prone stretch...

http://www.chennaitrafficpolice.in/index.php

Quite interesting to know they have website also...but needs quite improvements to increase site hits...

Checkout Video footage....Good voice modultation...

CHENNAI: The grade separator at the junction of Cenotaph Road-Turnbulls Road was completed in nine months against the original schedule of 15 months, Deputy Chief Minister M.K. Stalin said on Friday.

Participating in a function to mark the inauguration of three facilities in the city, Mr. Stalin said work on the grade separator was launched on February 12. At that time, it was stated that the work would be over in 15 months. But, the work was completed in nine months.

http://www.hindu.com/2009/12/12/stories/2009121259690300.htm

Good that they completed the works 6 months ahead of schedule that will free up the resources to take up the development works elsewhere.

How wide is this in comparison to Royapettah - RK Salai or the IIT flyover? The latter two allow 2 way traffic...

In any case, I think this flyover should have been wider, or designed for 1-way traffic.

An alternative: Depending on traffic stats, this can be one way in one direction in the mornings and the opposite direction in the evenings...? But that won't relieve the traffic on Chamiers Road... :ohno:

Guys how much flyovers in chennai city do you think will be over within the DMK rule gets over. i mean before apr-2011. i will add which i know...

1. Koyembedu Flyover.
2. pallavaram-toraipakkam radial road flyover.
3. Madurayoval interchange.
4.Perumbur flyover.
5. Pallavaram ROB.
6.Tambaram Flyover.
Please add the flyovers which i have left over.

^^ Add the Chennai Bypass-NH5 interchange and the Ambattur Estate Elevated Road to that list..

Although completion of many of these flyovers is still something of a question mark..

Guys how much flyovers in chennai city do you think will be over within the DMK rule gets over. i mean before apr-2011. i will add which i know...

1. Koyembedu Flyover.
2. pallavaram-toraipakkam radial road flyover.
3. Madurayoval interchange.
4.Perumbur flyover.
5. Pallavaram ROB.
6.Tambaram Flyover.
Please add the flyovers which i have left over.

There is also the Rangarajapuram flyover.

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Flying high?


With a plethora of flyovers commissioned by the State Government in the city, Harini Sriram talks to builders to get insights on what these developments mean to the real esate market


The city is changing. If the number of flyovers is anything to go by, Chennai is definitely undergoing a sea change. Although these flyovers claim to reduce traffic congestion, how relevant are they and how do they impact real estate development in the adjoining areas? We take a look at four flyovers that have been completed recently and get city-based developers to comment on each of them. . .

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FLYOVER AT THE JUNCTION OF USMAN ROAD AND DURAISWAMY ROAD


• Cost:Rs19.8 crores

• Date of completion:August 14,2008

• Duration:12 months

• Length:781m

• Width:11m

• Builder's take:"I was the architect of the first few flyovers in the city constructed by Gammon India Ltd and I believe that flyovers and grade separators are the need of the hour.In T Nagar,besides over-crowding,parking is a major problem and hence,a lot of people are sceptical about stepping into the area for fear of getting stuck in the incessant traffic jam.Water-logging during monsoons is another major issue.Besides,pedestrians need to be given space on the roads.I'm looking at developing a high-end apartment complex in this area and with the flyover,there is a bigger market for residential and commercial development.T Nagar is an interesting area and more and more people are looking at buying properties in that part of the city."
Hari Nageshwaran,Hallmark Infrastructure



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HIGH-LEVEL BRIDGE ACROSS ADYAR RIVER ON ALANDUR ROAD BETWEEN GUINDY INDUSTRIAL ESTATE AND SAIDAPET


• Cost:Rs9.03 crores

• Date of completion:Dec 11,2009

• Period:21 months

• Length:420m

• Width:12m

• Builder's take:"I'm personally not in favour of too many flyovers.I believe that what the Government should do,instead,is de-congest the main city by providing infrastructure in the peripheries.The city has grown rapidly and the focus is shifting towards the south,with Guindy slowly gaining prominence.So the Government should be encouraging public transportation and putting in infrastructure before people move in,to avoid clutter and congestion."
Ramesh Nair,MD,Jones Lang LaSalle Meghraj,
Chennai and Hyderabad



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FLYOVER AT THE JUNCTION OF NORTH USMAN ROAD AND MAHALINGAPURAM


• Cost:Rs9.72 crores

• Date of completion:March 30,2008

• Duration:12 months

• Length:472m

• Width:8m

• Builder's take:"The flyover has definitely helped relieve traffic congestion.And T Nagar,being a prime shopping and retail destination,attracts a lot of buyers.Now with the increased connectivity, opportunities for development,even in the interiors, are aplenty.This has percolated the real estate market in the area and given rise to a slew of residential and commercial establishments."
Sandeep Mehta,MD,Jain Constructions



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FLYOVER AT THE JUNCTION OF CHAMIERS ROAD AND TURNBULLS ROAD


• Cost:Rs19.93 crores

• Date of completion:December 11,2009

• Duration:9 months

• Length:458m

• Width:8m

• Builder's take: "Traffic congestion would be sorted out as a result of the flyover - in peak hours,for instance,the vehicles would be stuck for 30 minutes.This situation is definitely going to change with the flyover.For builders again,this is a welcome move as more people will now be looking at properties in these areas.But having said that, from my point of view,development of the property depends to a great extent on the plot,not so much on flyovers.It has also been seen that there is not much change in the market prices in the areas across which the flyover is constructed.Although initially,there is a dip,prices stabilise eventually."

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Pallavaram ROB. no work done in past 6 months.

Pallavaram Thoraipakkam Radial Road bridge . only 5 people were working, if this is the pace, not sure when will be work done.

http://newstodaynet.com/newsindex.php?id=20744%20&%20section=7

Chennai Corporation Mayor M Subramanian today said the Perambur Flyover would be thrown open by February 2010 thereby giving a great relief to the residents of north Chennai.

Briefing reporters after reviewing the construction works, the Mayor said that in addition to the Perambur flyover, a subway near Stanley Hospital and Korukkupet Railway Overbridge (ROB) would also be completed soon.

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The Korukkupet Railway Overbridge (ROB) being under construction at an estimate cost of Rs 19 crore would be completed by August 2010', he said, adding that the work on the subway near Stanley Hospital at a cost of Rs 19 crore would by over by June 2010.

Chief Minister M Karunanidhi and Deputy Chief Minister M K Stalin have instructed the officials to expedite the projects, he added.

After the flyover is opened, more traffic is expected on Jamalia, Stephenson Road, Cooks Road, Konnur High Road, Brickiln Road and Strahans Road.

Has anyone travelled on/under the Cenotaph Road flyover yet? Better or worse than it was earlier?

CHENNAI: Even as the state highways department's proposal to build five flyovers along Anna Salai seems to have moved a step ahead, the state

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government is toying with an alternative building elevated roads on two stretches.

The new plan stems from the concern that the five flyovers in a span of 6km would prove to be a roller-coaster ride for motorists. As per the plan, two elevated roads would come up between Anna Statue and Saidapet bus terminus one between Anna Statue and Thousand Lights and the other from the Eldams Road junction to Saidapet. However, the government has asked the highways department to come up with a model to see how the five flyovers would look so that it can have a clear picture before taking a decision.

"We have to do something urgently to ease traffic congestion on Anna Salai before the Metro Rail works begin. We have to decide between the two projects,'' a senior highways official in the Secretariat said.

Experts are in favour of the elevated road. "Building two elevated roads on either side of Anna Salai will be a long-term solution to traffic problems rather than having five flyovers," said A Veeraraghavan, transportation engineering professor at IIT-Madras.

Meanwhile, the Chennai Metro Rail Corporation has okayed the proposal to construct five flyovers on Anna Salai. But the authorities have stipulated that foundation works for the same be completed by March 2011 so that metro rail works are not disturbed.

The highways department had, a few months ago, sent a proposal to build four-lane flyovers at the Wallajah Road junction, the Spencers junction, the Eldams Road junction, the Nandanam junction and at CIT Nagar along Anna Salai at a total cost of Rs 600 crore.

According to sources, the proposed flyovers at the Wallajah Road and Eldams Road junctions would be the longer ones. "These would be 1km long. While the Wallajah Road flyover will end in front of the LIC building, the Eldams Road flyover will end after the Anna Salai-Cenotaph Road intersection. In CIT Nagar, the proposed flyover would cover two intersections on Anna Salai at CIT Nagar 1st and IIIrd main roads. The flyover proposed at the Spencers junction would be about 600m long and would end in front of the Anna Salai police station,'' they said.

A census conducted by the highways research station last year found that Anna Salai near DMS and at Nandanam were the highest traffic density points in the city, with movement of 1.5 lakh vehicles each day.

Has anyone travelled on/under the Cenotaph Road flyover yet? Better or worse than it was earlier?

my company buses use this flyover daily, there is no bottleneck because of the flyover; But the real culprit is the intersection at cenotaph rd (after the flyover but before Mount Rd) because that stretch of cenotaph rd has been thrown open for two way traffic recently.

Has anyone travelled on/under the Cenotaph Road flyover yet? Better or worse than it was earlier?

My office is actually right at that junction, so been on and under it quite a bit..The Cenotaph Road-Chamiers Road junction is definitely better traffic-wise..

And they've done a very neat job of finishing the entire ground-level of the area - new drains everywhere, usable neat pavements, a good amount of parking and very good lighting..

:)

சென்னை அண்ணாசாலையில் ரூ.600 கோடியில் 5 மேம்பாலங்கள் தமிழக அரசு திட்டம்

சென்னையில் அதிகரிக்கும் மக்கள் தொகை, வாகன எண்ணிக்கை காரணமாக நாளுக்கு நாள் போக்குவரத்து பலமடங்கு அதிகரித்து வருகிறது. இதனை சமாளிப்பதற்காக அண்ணாசாலை அண்ணாசிலையில் இருந்து நந்தனம் வரை மேம்பாலம் அமைக்க திட்டம் தயாரிக்கப்பட்டது.

இதற்கிடையே போக்கு வரத்து நெரிசலை சமாளிக்க 2 வழிகளில் மெட்ரோ ரெயில் திட்டம் செயல் படுத்தப்படுகிறது. இதற்கான பணிகள் தொடங்கி விட்டது. இதுதவிர பல்வேறு நட வடிக்கைகளையும் அரசு எடுத்து வருகிறது.

இந்த நிலையில் அண்ணாசாலை போக்குவரத்து நெரிசலை சமாளிக்க அண்ணாசாலை அண்ணாசிலை முதல், அண்ணாசாலை சி.ஐ.டி. நகர் வரை 5 புதிய மேம்பாலங்கள் கட்ட தமிழக அரசு திட்டமிட்டுள்ளது.

இதன்படி அண்ணாசாலையில் வாலாஜாசாலை சந்திப்பு, ஸ்பென்சர் பிளாசா சந்திப்பு, எல்டாம்ஸ் ரோடு சந்திப்பு, நந்தனம் சந்திப்பு, சி.ஐ.டி.நகர் அண்ணாசாலை சந்திப்பு ஆகிய இடங்களில் 5 மேம்பாலங்கள் கட்டப் படுகின்றன.

இதில் வாலாஜா சாலை சந்திப்பு, நந்தனம் சந்திப்பு ஆகிய இடங்களில் கட்டப்படும் மேம்பாலங்கள் சுமார் 1 கிலோ மீட்டர் நீளம் கொண்டவை. 5 பாலங்களும் மொத்தம் 6 கிலோ மீட்டர் நீளம் இருக்கும். இந்த மேம்பாலங்கள் 4 வழி போக்குவரத்து வசதி கொண்டதாக கட்டப்படுகிறது.

ரூ.600 கோடி செலவில் இந்த 5 மேம்பாலங்களையும் கட்ட திட்டமிடப்பட்டுள்ளது. நவீன தொழில் நுட்பத்துடன் கட்டப்படும் இந்த மேம் பாலங்கள் போக்குவரத்து நெரிசலை சமாளிப்பதுடன் சென்னை நகருக்கு அழகு சேர்ப்பதாகவும் அமையும் என்று அதிகாரிகள் தெரிவித்தனர்.

புதிய பாலம் கட்டுவதற்கான திட்டம் தயாரிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது. தமிழக அரசின் ஒப்புதல் பெற்ற பிறகு பணிகள் தொடங்கும். மெட்ரோ ரெயில் திட்டத்துக்கு பாதிப்பு இல்லாத வகையில் இந்த பாலங்களை கட்ட திட்டமிடப்பட்டுள்ளது.


http://www.maalaimalar.com/2009/12/22111644/CNI01102201209.html

The concept of elevated roads is nice but the planners must make sure that proper entry and exit ramps at major intersections are provided so that maximum utilization of the road is possible.

My office is actually right at that junction, so been on and under it quite a bit..The Cenotaph Road-Chamiers Road junction is definitely better traffic-wise..

And they've done a very neat job of finishing the entire ground-level of the area - new drains everywhere, usable neat pavements, a good amount of parking and very good lighting..

:)

yes, i like it .. this is a classic example of how flyovers could help. no matter how narrow it is. We've seen many critique-s of flyovers.. but shifting/eliminating the delay-s in junction does help when designed properly.

any picks on koyembedu flyover???

TOI (http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Daily/skins/TOINEW/navigator.asp?Daily=TOICH&showST=true&login=default&pub=TOI&AW=1261491891328)

The various infrastructure projects of the Chennai Corporation — it has completed five since December last — have earned praise from the public.
On December 11, chief minister M Karunanidhi declared open three projects — a flyover at the Cenotaph Road-Turnbulls Road junction, a high-level bridge at the Alandur causeway and a subway at the Jones Road level crossing in Saidapet. These projects cost an estimated Rs 37.85 crore.
At the opening of the Cenotaph Road flyover, the chief minister recalled his midnight arrest in 2001 over the alleged irregularities in the construction of flyovers when his son M K Stalin was Mayor. “We were even afraid of taking up the present projects. But for the benefit of the general public, we have taken them up,” he said.
“The projects are a perfect gift to motorists. The traffic density at Nandanam has eased after Cenotaph Road flyover was opened,” says A Venkatesh of Velachery.
The present DMK-led corporation council has 15 traffic projects in several congested areas. Says Mayor M Subramanian: “The city gets traffic projects only during the DMK government.” He recalled that a recent study by Wilbur Smith Associates, a private consultant, suggested that Chennai fared better than other metros in terms of traffic management. “For instance, a motorist can travel at 22 km/hr on city roads, while it is only 15 km/hr in Delhi,” he said.
The corporation is working on nine traffic projects at an estimated cost of Rs 240.31 crore. The Perambur flyover, the only unfinished project of Stalin when he was Mayor, is expected to be completed by February. The vehicular subway at Maniakara Choultry Street and flyover at Cocraine Basin Road - Kathivakkam High Road will be done before August 2010. The other ongoing projects, including Rangarajapuram flyover, the subway at Villivakkam level crossing 2, and Perambur locoworks, will be completed by 2010.

CHENNAI: The Chennai Corporation has floated a tender for construction of a bridge connecting Indira Nagar 2nd Avenue and Rajiv Gandhi Salai.

The estimated cost of the four-lane bridge is Rs.3.04 crore.

To be built across the Buckingham Canal, it will have a 15.3-m carriageway and two 2.25-m wide footpaths.

The proposed facility will come up in place of an 11-foot-wide bridge that collapsed after a lorry laden with bricks tried to cross it last month.

The last date for submission of bids is January 22. Construction of the single span, 19-metre-wide bridge will not cause any disturbance to the pillars of the MRTS. Civic body officials say encroachments on the Indira Nagar side, including a temple and a few houses, will be removed to facilitate the construction.

The contracting firm will have 10 months to complete the work.

On completion, the bridge will contribute significantly to decongesting traffic in and around Thiruvanmiyur.

Source: http://www.hindu.com/2009/12/23/stories/2009122358360300.htm

TOI (http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Daily/skins/TOINEW/navigator.asp?Daily=TOICH&showST=true&login=default&pub=TOI&AW=1261491891328)Chennai earns the ‘city of flyovers’ sobriquet

Warning/Disclaimer: This Post is only about the title; I don't have any intention to pull politics. I hope every one takes it in the right sprite.

Without mentioning the comparison data among the cities, giving a title of `city of flyovers` is unjustified. Even we have data of number of flyovers in the cities to compare, we might need take into account of other metrics like -number of ramps & the safe speed limit to cross over the flyovers width of the flyovers, how many signals it avoids, number of flyovers per 10 kms length of the (major) road in the city. etc. Then giving the title would be more appropriate.

^^ I think TOI have at some point or the other used the same title for their publications in every major city of India, so I wouldn't take it too seriously..

All that can be taken from the article is that we now have more flyovers than before..

yes rightly said by both of you.. major road project activity in chennai has picked only few years back may be (4 or 3 years).. its too early for the title..

yes rightly said by both of you.. major road project activity in chennai has picked only few years back may be (4 or 3 years).. its too early for the title..

For your info. Ten flyoers in the city including the Perambur flyover were planed in 1996 when Stalin was the Mayor .Out of the ten flyovers planned ,9 were completed and opened to traffic before 2000 itself.Chennai has the first Clover Shaped flyover(Kathipara) in the Country and once of the biggest rotary model interchnage(Padi) of the country .Another Clover shaped massive flyover is coming up in Maduravoyal and a semi Clover shaped huge flyover is coming up in Koyembedu .Still more flyovers are planed in the city .I hope this is the rght time to give the name and take it forward.

first clover shaped flyover in S. India is in Hebbal (Bangalore). Out of the ones constructed in 1996 by Stalin, only the one near Music academy is wide. others were narrow or had other design flaws. Number of 10 sounds great but most were small.

Mumbai got many huge flyovers between 1992-96 when Shiv Sena - BJP was in power

We should not try to get into who is number 1 or 2 etc. Almost always, the infrastructure in N. Delhi is way better than other cities.

For your info. Ten flyoers in the city including the Perambur flyover were planed in 1996 when Stalin was the Mayor .Out of the ten flyovers planned ,9 were completed and opened to traffic before 2000 itself.Chennai has the first Clover Shaped flyover(Kathipara) in the Country and once of the biggest rotary model interchnage(Padi) of the country .Another Clover shaped massive flyover is coming up in Maduravoyal and a semi Clover shaped huge flyover is coming up in Koyembedu .Still more flyovers are planed in the city .I hope this is the rght time to give the name and take it forward.

:lol::lol::lol::lol:Nice joke.

Just visit Delhi flyover forums. That is a real city of flyovers. Just because there is a sudden sprout of two laned flyovers here and there in the city doesn't mean that it has so much flyovers. Delhi's ITO flyover, ISBT interchange, Dhaula Kuan interchange, AIIMS interchange are much traffic friendly and older than the flyovers in Chennai. AFAIK there are more than 30 flyovers and interchanges in Delhi and all are 4laned not like the ones in Chennai. Clover leaf interchanges came to 6 or 7 places around the country before they came to Chennai. So please browse through other city forums before you make the comment.

^^ +1

:lol::lol::lol::lol:Nice joke.

Just visit Delhi flyover forums. That is a real city of flyovers. Just because there is a sudden sprout of two laned flyovers here and there in the city doesn't mean that it has so much flyovers. Delhi's ITO flyover, ISBT interchange, Dhaula Kuan interchange, AIIMS interchange are much traffic friendly and older than the flyovers in Chennai. AFAIK there are more than 30 flyovers and interchanges in Delhi and all are 4laned not like the ones in Chennai. Clover leaf interchanges came to 6 or 7 places around the country before they came to Chennai. So please browse through other city forums before you make the comment.


Thanks for you valuable input .Yes Delhi is the best in infrastructure in the Country,no doubt about that .My dear friend ,the first flyover in the Country is constructed in Chennai(Gemini Flyover) in 1960's .The flyovers hav not sprouted here and there as you said .They are coming up right from the 60s and now ,in the last decades ,atleast 2 flyovers are cominup per year .AFAIK there are only few flyovers with 2 lanes in Chennai.Some with 4 lanes and Some with 6 lanes(Padi flyover) .:nuts::nuts:

Thanks for you valuable input .Yes Delhi is the best in infrastructure in the Country,no doubt about that .My dear friend ,the first flyover in the Country is constructed in Chennai(Gemini Flyover) in 1960's .The flyovers hav not sprouted here and there as you said .They are coming up right from the 60s and now ,in the last decades ,atleast 2 flyovers are cominup per year .AFAIK there are only few flyovers with 2 lanes in Chennai.Some with 4 lanes and Some with 6 lanes(Padi flyover) .:nuts::nuts:

That the first flyover in India was built in Chennai was a matter of pride in the 60s, not now. Stop being so defensive. 2 flyovers per year? Really? I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think that's correct. I'd like to see some evidence, because I can't find any.

Regarding the width of the flyovers, immediately Cenotaph Road, T Nagar(?) IIT and Malar Hospital come to mind as 2-lane flyovers. 4-laned ones are fewer, or so it seems to me. Could be wrong on this one.

Do you want to know how many flyovers under construction, planned for Delhi? Check this out.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=385380&page=64

Abhishek put a great effort in consolidating.

That the first flyover in India was built in Chennai was a matter of pride in the 60s, not now. Stop being so defensive. 2 flyovers per year? Really? I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think that's correct. I'd like to see some evidence, because I can't find any.

Regarding the width of the flyovers, immediately Cenotaph Road, T Nagar(?) IIT and Malar Hospital come to mind as 2-lane flyovers. 4-laned ones are fewer, or so it seems to me. Could be wrong on this one.

Add flyovers at kodambakkam and TTK road (Eldams road intersection) to the list of 2 laned flyovers.

And let's not forget the set of narrow, 'water seeping' subways built across our railway lines.

Planning needs to be seriously over-hauled in the city.

Do you want to know how many flyovers under construction, planned for Delhi? Check this out.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=385380&page=64

Abhishek put a great effort in consolidating.

It is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay toooo unfair to compare the investments going into Delhi with other cities. The roads in Delhi have always been very wide and it is easier to build 4 and 6 lane flyovers.

Iam absolutely sure that if the CWG work was in Chennai, the work would have happened much faster

^^ Hehehe..thats true... Chennai is not the city of flyovers as well. If He needs that much money to be poured in, He needs to be the capital of a separate country.... I hate that, let Chennai be Chennai.

Who is "He"?

^^He He He .......

Who is "He"?
^^ He is Chennai. Previously people tend to say "She", gradually over the years it has been shifted to "He" like fatherland. Journalists know this.

:ohno:Chennai may not be the city of fly over, agreed, but why is that most of you are comparing Chennai with Delhi and Mumbai. It is crystal clear fact that these are the most pampered cities in India (Delhi being the capital & Mumbai - Economic capital) and always on the top of the list for any new projects announced, atmost attention is given on every aspect. Presently added to this is Bangalore – IT capital. Chennai is the least city to get any kind of project sanctions or help from CG. Best example is the Airport project, we are last to get the nod for the expansion project, not even a new one. So is our fate. TN government with its limited resources and with the minimal support (mostly no support) of CG is doing some good things for the people. You people here just go on criticize irrespective of whether it is good or bad. Please realize we are not capital, economic capital or IT capital of India. ….

^^ But that doesn't justify the statement that Chennai is city of flyovers. Whether it is facing partiality or not, there are cities around the the country with a larger amount of flyovers. So the naming is wrong.

Maybe its true in case of TN. But then it is a really bad comparison.

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http://www.hindu.com/2009/12/27/stories/2009122758780300.htm

CHENNAI: As part of its efforts to make subways and bridges bright and colourful, the Chennai Corporation is undertaking beautification work on several such facilities at a cost of Rs.5.11 crore, said Mayor M. Subramanian.

Inspecting the beautification of the side walls of Parthasarathy Bridge in Mint on Saturday, he said, “the beautification works will be completed shortly.”

The Parthasarathy Bridge is being beautified at a cost of Rs.46.91 lakh. The vacant space on the south and north side of the Perambur flyover would be beautified at a cost of Rs.70 lakh, he said.

As part of the Rs.14.90-lakh work of beautification of the bridge over the Cooum connecting Binny Road and Ethiraj Salai, the civic body is replacing the hand railing with a wall to paste colourful tiles and re-lay the footpath. The bridge, which is nearly 50 years old, was last widened in 1993. Hundreds of pedestrians, particularly students of colleges, use the bridge.

A pedestrian subway near the Kannagi Statue on Kamarajar Salai is being renovated, using granite slabs on the side walls and the floor at a cost of Rs.33.60 lakh.

Beautification of other facilities such as Nungambakkam subway, Pallavan road flyover, Radhakrishnan Salai-TTK Road Flyover, Sardar Patel Road-LB Road Flyover and Usman Road Flyover would be completed soon, he said.

The construction of the subway near Stanley Medical College, the Cocraine Basin Road Flyover, the Villivakkam Subway and the Kathivakkam flyover would be completed in June 2010, said Mr. Subramanian.

The Kodambakkam bridge would be strengthened at a cost of Rs.2 crore, he added. :)

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Related news in TOI - Corporation to beautify flyovers, subways

CHENNAI: After completing the beautification of Marina beach, Chennai Corporation has taken up a similar drive to beautify subways and flyovers. The bridges department of the civic body has engaged contractors to brighten walls of subways and flyovers at an estimated cost of Rs 5.11 crore.

Reviewing the ongoing works on Dr Parthasarathy bridge at Mint junction on Saturday, Mayor M Subramanian said the rusted railings of flyovers were being replaced with ceramic tiles and areas beneath the facilities will have lush green surroundings. At least 15 subways and flyovers will get a facelift.

While tiles depicting traditional Tamil arts already adorn the walls of Nelson Manickam Road subway and the one near Kannagi statue on Kamarajar Salai, tiles have replaced hand-railings on bridges on Ethiraj Salai, LB Road and Tirumangalam Road. There are plans to beautify Kodambakkam bridge at Rs 2 crore and avail open spaces near the Perambur flyover site to add greenery at Rs 70 lakh. :eek2:

Corpn Seeks CMDA Help To Secure Funds To Acquire Land For Project
Julie Mariappan | TNN

Chennai: Residents here will have to wait a few more years to see the city’s first flyover-cum-subway at the Lattice Bridge Road junction. The cash-strapped Chennai Corporation has sought the support of the Chennai Metropolitan Development Authority (CMDA) for its construction. The flyover-cum-subway has been a long-pending demand of residents in Tiruvanmiyur as well as along East Coast Road.
The DMK-lead council announced the L B Road project after it took charge in 2006; the project was among several planned to ease congestion at various intersections in the city. While six are complete, a few are in the finishing stages.
According to official sources, land acquisition would cost Rs 90 crore. With rising land prices, the corporation has now approached CMDA to help it in getting funds sanctioned to buy the land. The plan is to have a flyover 607 metres long and a subway 280 metres long.
Sources said that the corporation wanted funds from CMDA’s pool of developmental charges. “The project is estimated to cost Rs 126 crore. The regulatory body can either give funds for the execution of the project or acquire lands under transferable development rights (TDR) from the property owners,” said a senior official.
A person who does not want compensation for land acquired from him can opt for a TDR certificate. It entitles him to build anywhere else in the city, with a floor space equal to 1.5 times of the area acquired. “If the corporation comes up with a detailed survey of properties, we will certainly help acquire lands,” CMDA member secretary Vikram Kapur told TOI.
The corporation’s decision to seek funds from CMDA was taken after the state government asked the former to look for financial sources for the LB Road project. The civic agency has obtained grants for eight traffic projects, including subways and flyovers under the central government’s flagship programme for urban development, the Jawaharlal Nehru National Urban Renewal Mission (JNNURM).
“Large-scale real estate development along ECR has made the L B Road junction chaotic. Many want to get into the IT corridor, the reason motorists wait for long at the junction. The situation worsens during peak hour. This should be fixed immediately,” said R Vijayalakshmi, a Tiruvanmiyur resident.

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http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?Title=3+more+bridges+to+be+inaugurated+by+July&artid=SbNxNAx1j|g=&SectionID=lifojHIWDUU=&MainSectionID=wIcBMLGbUJI=&SectionName=rSY|6QYp3kQ=&SEO=

CHENNAI: Construction of three more bridges at Villivakkam, Royapuram and Moolakothalam that had been delayed due to various reasons would be taken up soon and completed by June next year, Mayor M Subramanian said here on Saturday.
After inspecting the civic body’s drive for beautification of bridges in the city at Washermenpet, Subramanian told reporters, “Vehicular subway at level crossing-2 at Villivakkam, overbridge at Kathivakkam High Road-Cochran Basin Road in Moolakothalam and vehicular subway near Stanley Government Hospital at Royapuram could have be completed several months ago, but delayed due to Southern Railway’s procedural problems.” Talks between the Southern Railway and the Corporation have yielded expected result and they announced that works would commence by January 15 and completed in next two months, he said.
The new facilities would be thrown open for public in July, he added. He also announced that important bridges in city would be beautified by fixing decorative tiles and two new parks would be developed on the either side of Perambur flyover.

Lack of bidders stalls flyover work

Contractors Unwilling To Take Up Flyover Project At Porur Jn On Proposed Budget

Jeeva | TNN

Chennai: Vehicle users on Arcot Road and Mount Poonamallee Road will have to face the ordeal of traffic congestion at Porur junction for some more months. The state highways department has not been able to finalise a contractor to build a flyover at the Arcot Road-Mount Poonamallee Road junction despite tenders having been invited twice the past three months.
With contractors unwilling to take up the project at the cost cited by the department, tenders were called for the third time, last week.
According to official sources, contractors are seeking a higher price, saying that the construction work at the junction is a difficult task and that they will need to spend more money on labour. The junction is usually congested with heavy vehicles, and Arcot Road is too narrow to accommodate construction material.
The estimated cost of construction is Rs 15 crore but contractors want 40% more. Our position is that we can at the most pay 10 to 15% more. The last date for submitting tenders is January 21 and we hope we can find a contractor this time, a senior highways official told The Times of India .
Once work commences, the flyover, which will come along Mount Poonamallee Road, is scheduled to be completed in 18 months. With a traffic flow of about 15,000 passenger car units a day, the flyover will enable motorists to save 15 to 20 minutes, the time they now take to cross the junction even when it is not rush hour. Very often, you can see vehicles lined up for about half a kilometre on Mount Poonamallee Road as well as on Arcot Road. Hundreds of pedestrians cross the junction daily. Though the police introduced some traffic rearrangements at the junction from Sunday, a flyover is the need of the hour here, said T Varadharajan, a Porur resident. Mount Poonamallee Road is a shortcut route to the airport from the citys western suburbs.
However, due to congestion and wastage of time in crossing the intersection, many motorists prefer go to the airport via MTH Road, 100 Ft Road and Guindy.
The flyover project was formulated in 2005 and was supposed to have taken off in 2007, but had to await Metro Rail clearance that was given five months ago.

Hitting A Road Block

With a traffic flow of about 15,000 passenger car units a day, the flyover at Arcot Road-Mount Poonamallee Road is aimed at enabling motorists to save 15 to 20 minutes Tenders have been invited thrice in the past three months, yet the State Highways department has not been able to finalise a contractor to a build a flyover at the Arcot Road-Mount Poonamallee Road
Official sources said the estimated cost of construction is Rs 15 cr but contractors want 40% more. Department can at the most pay 10 to 15% more
Contractors are asking for a higher price as according to them, construction at the junction is not easy and they would have to spend a lot on labour

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I feel that the design has to be improved a lot keeping the flow and volume of traffic.

The Govt Depts take a very myopic view of this kind of development (Living examples are the IT Corridor with inputs based on 90s data and Masterplan II based on 80s data).

With the phenomenal development happening / going to happen along the
NH4, this Porur junction assumes the importance similar to that of Madya Kailash. It is almost like an entry point for the Southern and western suburbs to reach NH4.

Poonamallee town is another bottleneck. The Bye pass near Saveetha Dental serves the purpose for the time being; but what about say 2015 situation?.

The PWD manual says that the labour charges are Rs. 165 for male and even less for female labourers. But practically, it is Rs. 450 and Rs. 350. The estimates are done with all out dated data - not by a few years but by a few decades.

World Bank / ADB funded projects are little better since the World Bank Reps scrutinise the estimates to some extent and enhance the same.

Unless the estimates are nearer to the actuals, no contractor will be able to quote and execute a reasonably good job. Otherwise we will end up with concrete megaliths with bad designs and poor quality.

:ohno:Chennai may not be the city of fly over, agreed, but why is that most of you are comparing Chennai with Delhi and Mumbai. It is crystal clear fact that these are the most pampered cities in India (Delhi being the capital & Mumbai - Economic capital) and always on the top of the list for any new projects announced, atmost attention is given on every aspect. Presently added to this is Bangalore – IT capital. Chennai is the least city to get any kind of project sanctions or help from CG. Best example is the Airport project, we are last to get the nod for the expansion project, not even a new one. So is our fate. TN government with its limited resources and with the minimal support (mostly no support) of CG is doing some good things for the people. You people here just go on criticize irrespective of whether it is good or bad. Please realize we are not capital, economic capital or IT capital of India. ….


Delhi and Mumbai are the best in Business in case of Infrastructure ,that is really agreed .But never compare Banglore with Chennai . I heard that the total time taken to reach the bAnlgore City from the great new airport is same as the time taken to travel from Chennai to Banglore on NH .Is that true??? .Can someone thoru light n fire on this????:banana::banana:

^^ Chennai to Bng is 6hrs by bus. Almost same by train. 4.5 to 5hrs by car(depends on your speed). And BNG airport to BNG city taking 6hrs is too much and baseless.

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^^ Chennai to Bng is 6hrs by bus. Almost same by train. 4.5 to 5hrs by car(depends on your speed). And BNG airport to BNG city taking 6hrs is too much and baseless.


BNGAirport to BNG city it will take maximum 2.0 hrs,nothing more than that.
If it is really taking 6 + hrs to reach BNG new airport from BNG city,then will be a case of suicide for the ppl who are travelling to airport:badnews:

IS it Two hours??? That itself is very long ...!!! how many km it is from the city???