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zenden April 29th, 2008, 07:34 PM Since forecasts show high growth in this area for Romania ,and with the start of major projects in these field such as construction of Brasov Airport,or the modernization of Iasi airport i think this thread is in order
Sbz2ifc April 29th, 2008, 09:10 PM ^^ I think you should make a bigger effort when opening a new thread. You could at least edit this first post to include a list of all existing Romanian airports and projects for new ones.
zenden April 30th, 2008, 08:40 AM Iasi future airport:
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zenden April 30th, 2008, 08:54 AM Future Brasov Airport,works started on 15 april and will be finished in 2010:
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zenden April 30th, 2008, 08:58 AM Cluj-Napoca Airport:
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The construction of the new "Schengen" terminal started on 26 June 2007. According to official statements it will cover some 10,000 square meters, and its construction is supposed to be finalised by April 2008.
A new 3,500 metres long runway and a cargo terminal (including a Nokia cargo terminal) are planned to be built.
High Mileager May 1st, 2008, 03:33 AM This thread has already been open here..
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=608798
cheers
joce23 May 5th, 2008, 08:20 AM Kogalniceanu Airport will operate low-cost flights to Bruxelles
http://www.standard.ro/articol_42312/cursa_constanta___bruxelles.html
Operatorul aerian low-cost Blue Air va opera, din 12 august, curse pe ruta Constanta (Aeroportul Mihail Kogalniceanu) - Bruxelles (Zaventem) si retur, in fiecare zi de marti, a anuntat compania. Pe de alta parte, conducerea Aeroportului Mihail Kogalniceanu a anuntat ca vrea sa introduca, pana la sfarsitul anului, alte doua curse low-cost catre diverse orase europene, dupa ce, luna trecuta, a fost inaugurata prima cursa Ryanair, pe ruta Constanta-Pisa. Principalii jucatori low-cost sunt Blue Air, WizzAir, easyJet, MyAir, SkyEurope si Germanwings.
Constanta's Kogalniceanu airport could attract two more low-cost operators
http://www.standard.ro/articol_42212/constanta_s_kogalniceanu_airport_could_attract_two_more_low_cost_operators.html
Mihail Kogalniceanu international airport, located close to the seaside city of Constanta, could operate low-cost flights to Germany and Spain, by two new airline companies by the end of 2008. The only company currently operating from Kogalniceanu airport is Ryanair.
"The first flight of a low cost company landed on the airport on April 18. It is a flight to Pisa. The average passenger number per flight is 120 and 15 percent of them are foreigners. Our goal for 2008 is to attract other low cost operators to increase the passenger flux. We have to fight the <military airport> label," said the airport's General Manager, Tiberiu Cazacu.
Mihail Kogalniceanu airport is controlled by the state, with a 60 percent stock owned by Transportation Ministry. Besides the passenger airport, a military airport and a military base are located in the village of Mihail Kogalniceanu, near Constanta
Le Clerk May 5th, 2008, 09:42 PM An interesting article about Romania's aiports and related developments.
Business Review
05/05/2008
Airport and off-airport property ready for take-off
Bucharest and Timisoara were mentioned among the fastest growing airports in Europe in a report by King Sturge on airport property, making them hot spots for out-of-town property developers. The Brasov airport, currently underway, and the other expected airport revamps and greenfield projects should attract more developers and investors in airport property and off-airport offices, hotels and logistics.
Properties close to airports and airports building compounds themselves have been neglected in Romania, while abroad such assets represent attractive alternative investments. Romania has several airports that have seen increasing numbers of passengers, due in part to the increasing presence of low-cost carriers that have included Romania in their expansion programs.
Romania has 17 commercial airports in total, the busiest being Henri Coanda in Bucharest, which handled 3.5 million passengers in 2006. It expects up to 5.5 million passengers this year.
The main Bucharest hub is on the list of airports which need revamping and even expansion, with a project to that end already drafted. The Romanian state, the major shareholder in the Henri Coanda Airport, will start buying land for the expansion by mid-this year, according to previous announcements. A new airport is to join the existing 17, once the terminal in Brasov, for which construction works have recently started, is completed.
But besides air traffic, airports represent perfect locations for offices, hotels, warehousing facilities, and even for supporting retail. Bucharest's main airport, Henri Coanda (Otopeni), has attracted several office building developers to its vicinity.
The off-airport property market in Europe saw last year rents between EUR 120 per sqm per year in Vienna to EUR 539 per sqm per year in Paris, which remains the most expensive market for such properties.
Bucharest stands midway between the two, with an estimated rent of a little less than EUR 200 per sqm per year, according to the King Sturge report. Rental values have picked up across Europe and vacancy rates continue to fall. In both Western and Central Europe, an improving economy and occupier outlook, combined with a shortage of available class A space in town, is driving an upturn in out-of-town office rental values.
While for Romania, the average in-town office property investment yield stands at some 6 percent, out-of-town offices offer a 7 percent investment yield, found the King Sturge report. Bucharest offers the second biggest yield for out-of-town office investments, outdone only by Bratisvala, with a 7.5 percent yield for out-of-town offices.
Cities in the region, such as Budapest, Prague and Warsaw, where in-town office yields have already been dropping in the last period, are not offering better out-of-town yields than Bucharest does. They range from 6 to 6.5 percent.
Bucharest is not the only Romanian city where airport property is a still untapped niche, and which could prove profitable. The Timisoara airport was the second fastest growing passenger airport in 2006, with a 186 percent increase, up to 750,000 passengers, according to the King Sturge report.
Surprisingly, Bucharest's Aurel Vlaicu (Baneasa) airport came fourth, with 676,000 passengers and a 75 percent increase, according to the report quoting ACI. In the first half of 2007, Bucharest's main airport Henri Coanda (Otopeni) was sixth on the list of airports with the biggest passenger traffic increases, with 2.1 million passengers, a 38 percent increase on the same period of the previous year.
"Small regional airports across Europe are experiencing the fastest growth rates in passenger numbers, in particular those located in the Central and Eastern European (CEE) countries of Poland and Romania. Increased mobility of the population across Europe and the continued growth of low-cost carriers (LCCs), which favor regional airports over the larger international hub airports, are the main drivers behind growth at these airports," the report states.
The original airport serving Bucharest before Henri Coanda International Airport was built in 1968 was at Baneasa. Once traffic had migrated to the new airport, Aurel Vlaicu remained operational but was seldom used until the arrival of several low-cost airlines. The airport has now positioned itself as the low-cost alternative to Henri Coanda, serving airlines such as Blue Air (Romania's first home grown low-cost carrier), Germanwings and My Air.
Timisoara airport, which handled 755,000 passengers in 2006, serves the western region of Romania and has experienced rapid growth in passenger traffic over recent years, mainly hosting full service carrier international and domestic services.
The growth of passenger numbers through Central and Eastern European airports is set to continue as the CEE countries become more integrated in the European Union. For a growing percentage of the population, air travel is being used not just for business travel or to reach a holiday destination, but for commuting between a country of origin and other EU countries where they may be residing for employment or study purposes.
Freight operators could also consider building their own facilities close to Romanian airports, to better serve the region, thus tapping into the airport property market. "There seems to be a repositioning by air freight companies to airports that can serve the booming Eastern Europe market," the report says.
Hotel properties are popular close to airports, and large international hotel chains have chosen to build such facilities close to airports with high traffic. Marriott has built a Courtyard unit close to Frederich Chopin Warsaw airport, and Prague airport. The hotel also features office and conference facilities for travelers to use in between flights. Novotel, part of Accor Group, has also chosen the Warsaw airport area to build a facility.
Bucharest only has several local and international branded hotels close to the Otopeni airport. The former Golden Tulip airport hotel has recently become Angelo, after being taken over by Austrian group Warimpex, while a second hotel facility called Phoenicia is run by hotel investor Mohamad Murad.
With the main airports becoming more crowded as passenger traffic increases, secondary airports will get some of the main load and also become attractive to property developers.
The underway Brasov airport is one of the most eagerly awaited, which suggests that not only does off-airport property represent an opportunity in Romania, but airport properties as well, as several existing airports may need revamping, while others are planned for construction.
The Brasov-Ghimbav airport is being built on a 200-hectare plot through a public-private partnership and requires a EUR 100 million investment, of which EUR 80 million represents direct investment. The local authorities expect the investment in the airport to break even in eight years, with a six-month period of grace once the airport is up and running. The Brasov airport is expected to be completed in 30 months, Canadian company Intelcan is working on the Brasov airport project, after placing the sole bid for it. The firm provides both air traffic control solutions and aviation infrastructure. It holds 64.3 percent of the shares in the company which runs the airport project, while the Brasov county council, 20 percent, the Brasov local council holds 10 percent, and the Ghimbav City Hall, a five percent share package. The Covasna and Harghita county councils also hold 0.5 and 0.2 percent respectively, after having offered land for the project.
The Brasov airport has already received letters of intent from airline companies, such as Malev, Austrian Airlines and Wizz Air, which would like to use it, according to the Brasov municipality. The airport should host at least 12 such companies immediately after completion. Intelcan was already working in Romania on the Fetesti airport. The airport project in Brasov will be a showcase of what the ministry of transportation is planning for the new airport in south Bucharest, which would become the third such facility in the capital. As airports are infrastructure, many of them may receive European financing dedicated to the sector.
At the same time, American group ANYC Group Inc. is planning to invest in the existing Suceava Airport, and is expected to present its investment plan in June this year. The investment project includes the construction of several warehouses in the area and the expansion of the airport runway. The Suceava authorities also expect the airport master plan to be ready at the beginning of June this year.
By Corina Saceanu
EduardSA May 5th, 2008, 11:39 PM Geez, plans for expansions at Henri Coanda (Otopeni) has being going on for how many years now? They should stop talking and start acting! Our current airport cannot support the rate our country is rising at (economically and aviation wise).
Klausenburg May 6th, 2008, 10:49 PM from here: http://www.ziuadecj.ro/action/article?ID=12135
Record de pasageri la Aeroportul Cluj-Napoca
Īn aprilie 2008, Aeroportul Internaţional Cluj-Napoca a īnregistrat 53.949 de pasageri, cu 130% mai mulţi faţă de cei 23.456 din aprilie 2007, a anunţat conducerea Consiliului Judeţean (CJ).
“Avānd īn vedere noile destinaţii introduse, creşterea record a traficului pentru primul trimestru al anului şi perspectiva extinderii infrastructurii, previziunile sunt de depăşirea pragului de 800.000 de pasageri pentru 2008 faţă de cei 390.000 ai anului 2007. Această creştere a traficului de pasageri reprezintă cea mai mare creştere īnregistrată pe un aeroport european la categoria sub un milion de pasageri”, a menţionat preşedintele CJ, Marius Nicoară.
Pentru a face faţă creşterii traficului de pasageri şi tendinţei de creştere permanentă pentru anii viitori, precum şi īn vederea asigurării capacităţii necesare procesării pasagerilor īn conformitate cu cerinţele Uniunii Europene, CJ a demarat un program de investiţii.
“Principalele obiective privind dezvoltarea şi modernizarea aeroportului constau īn construirea a două noi terminale de pasageri destinate procesării acestora pe fluxurile de plecări şi sosiri, īn construirea unei piste de 3.500m, extinderea platformei de parcare aeronave, precum şi dotarea aeroportului cu echipamente de control de securitate aeronautică īn vederea asigurării condiţiilor de siguranţă şi securitate impuse de reglementările internaţionale de aviaţie civilă specifice.
Volumul de investiţii care se realizează de Aeroportul Internaţional Cluj-Napoca īn 2008 este cel mai mare din Romānia īn domeniul aeroportuar”, a menţionat Nicoară.
nebunul May 8th, 2008, 02:13 PM ^^ mainly to do with www.wizzair.com
nebunul May 8th, 2008, 02:43 PM http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=19942063&postcount=9
^^ Bureaucracy is (as always :bash:) delaying major upgrade (badly needed) of Iasi International Airport. Iasi is dead without it as the E-W motorway will be completed (if ever :bash:) no earlier than 2020 (IMO)
Birocratia din Guvern joaca ping-pong cu Aeroportul Iasi
Data publicarii: 18/04/2008
Hirtiile vizind trecerea in patrimoniul Aeroportului a terenului necesar extinderii se plimba printre ministere. Desi trimise la Bucuresti inca din februarie, documentele au fost avizate abia de un minister.
Inca trei ministere trebuie sa-si dea acordul, apoi trebuie aprobate de Guvern. Mai mult, va trebui sa-si dea aprobarea si Consiliul Suprem de Aparare a Tarii. "Nu pot sa anticipez cind vor ajunge proiectele in sedinta de guvern", spune ministrul Transporturilor.
Situatia de la Aeroport pare fara iesire. Documentele trimise la Bucuresti, la sfirsitul lunii februarie, pentru demararea lucrarilor de modernizare a Aeroportului parca s-au ratacit. Pina in acest moment, desi au trecut aproape doua luni de la trimiterea proiectelor de hotarire care ar trebui aprobate pentru inceperea lucrarilor, acestea au fost verificate de un singur minister in drumul lor pina a ajunge pe masa guvernantilor spre aprobare.
"Am discutat zilele acestea la ministerul Internelor si Reformei Administrative si mi s-a spus ca proiectele de hotarire se afla in mapa ministrului Cristian David pentru a fi semnate. Urmeaza ca acestea sa fie trimise si la celelalte ministere care trebuie sa aprobe transferul de terenuri in zona in care se va extinde Aeroportul. Dupa ce acestea isi vor da acordul, proiectele vor intra in sedinta de guvern pentru aprobare", a precizat prefectul Marius Bodea.
Sefii Consiliului Judetean, institutia care a initiat proiectul de modernizare, asteapta in fiecare saptamina aprobarea proiectelor de autoritatile centrale. De cealalta parte, reprezentantii Guvernului anunta ca vor sprijini proiectul de modernizare, dar nu pot preciza cind vor aproba proiectele de hotarire.
Proceduri greoaie
La sfirsitul lunii februarie, sefii Prefecturii, Consiliului Judetean si Aeroportului s-au intilnit intr-un cadru festiv pentru a anunta ca au fost finalizate proiectele de hotarire de guvern privind modernizarea Aeroportului. Practic, documentatia viza trecerea in proprietatea CJ a aproximativ 172 ha, terenul fiind detinut de unele ministere, de Statiunea Dancu, dar si de doua firme private si de cinci persoane fizice care au titluri de proprietate pentru 2,5 ha.
Totodata, s-a solicitat autoritatilor centrale la acea data si finantarea lucrarilor de modernizare cu 30 de milioane lei, dupa ce, la finele lui 2007, CJ a returnat la bugetul central in jur de 10 milioane lei destinati pentru demararea lucrarilor la Aeroport. Banii nu au putut fi cheltuiti deoarece situatia juridica a terenurilor pe care trebuia sa se extinda Aeroportul nu era clara, iar lucrarile nu puteau fi pornite. "Am intrat in linie dreapta!", a anuntat entuziast la data trimiterii catre Bucuresti a documentatiei presedintele CJ, Lucian Flaiser.
Dar se pare ca Iasul mai are de asteptat, pentru ca documentele trimise la sfirsitul lunii februarie au fost analizate doar de MIRA, iar proiectele urmeaza sa mai treaca prin trei ministere. "Urmeaza ca ministerele Mediului, Agriculturii si Apararii Nationale, implicate in schimbul de terenuri, sa analizeze documentatia si sa-si dea acordul", a declarat Bodea.
Seful Prefecturii a mentionat ca procedura transferului de terenuri de la o autoritate la alta este una greoaie. Mai mult, ministrul Transporturilor, Ludovic Orban, a afirmat ca nu poate preciza cind vor ajunge proiectele de modernizare a Aeroportului International Iasi pe masa Guvernului.
"Procedurile de transfer, atunci cind este vorba despre terenuri detinute de Ministerul Apararii Nationale, presupun intrunirea Consiliului Suprem de Aparare a Tarii (CSAT). Nu pot sa anticipez cind vor ajunge proiectele in sedinta de guvern", a afirmat ministrul Transporturilor. Practic, pentru extinderea Aeroportului, din cele 172 ha, 22,5 ha sint detinute de Ministerul Apararii.
"In fiecare miercuri asteptam o hotarire"
Conducerea CJ sustine ca, in acest moment, nu poate face altceva decit sa astepte hotaririle de guvern prin care ar trebui aprobate trecerea terenului necesar extinderii in proprietatea autoritatilor judetene si finantarea in parte a lucrarilor. "In fiecare miercuri (n.r. - cind sint programate sedintele de guvern) asteptam o hotarire de la Bucuresti, dar se pare ca nu mai vine. Probabil ca cei de la Bucuresti considera ca Iasul nu are nevoie de Aeroport", a precizat vicepresedintele CJ Iovu Brezuleanu.
Aceeasi pozitie a avut-o si directorul Aeroportului, Mitica Rebegea. "Astept cu sufletul la gura in fiecare miercuri sa vad daca nu este o hotarire si pentru Aeroportul Iasi. As fi bucuros daca s-ar rezolva si cu terenurile, si cu finantarea, ca sa pot incepe lucrarile fara sa le mai amin", a spus Rebegea.
De cealalta parte, autoritatile centrale au precizat ca vor sprijini financiar modernizarea Aeroportului Iasi, dar in conditiile in care situatia juridica a terenurilor va fi clarificata. "Cu siguranta vom sprijini modernizarea Aeroportului de la Iasi. Asa cum am alocat bani anul trecut, vom aloca si anul acesta, dar in masura in care sint pregatite toate detaliile juridice si tehnice", a afirmat Orban.
Pentru modernizarea Aeroportului Iasi ar fi necesare sume care ajung la 200 de milioane de euro. Numai lucrarile la pista elastica de 3.000 de metri se ridica la 50 de milioane de euro.
http://www.ziaruldeiasi.ro/cms/site/z_is/news/birocratia_din_guvern_joaca_ping_pong_cu_aeroportul_iasi_155719.html
Cosmin May 8th, 2008, 02:52 PM E grele astea cu infrastructuri, cu munci... rocket science.:bash: Pacat de orasul ala.:ohno:
nebunul May 8th, 2008, 03:02 PM ^^ pai e grele ca autostrada NU, aeroport NU, vecini NU(Moldova) ...cum dreak sa atragi investitii sau sa-ti tii studentii (absolventii) acasa ?!?!
Noroc cu E85 (DN2) care este OK si se ajunge (de) la Bucuresti relativ repede ... ca legatura cu Transilvania e jale :ohno: ... le ia la studenti ~8 ore cu autocarul (vorbesc din surse sigure) din Piatra-Neamt pina la Cluj ... deci Iasi-Cluj cred ca e aprox 10 ore ... si asta se intimpla in UE 2008 :nuts::bash:
Sa nu mai amintec ca am luat un tren "Rapid" din Piatra pina la Buc ... cost ~ 20 Euro si timp ... 6 ore (fix) :bash: ... iar Sageata Albastra face 5.05 ore ...
Pacat de orasul ala.:ohno:
... pacat si de proiect ... imi place mult :cheers:
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zenden May 8th, 2008, 03:12 PM E greu sa te dezvolti cand vecinii tai sunt vasluiul,botosaniul si la est cea mai saraca regiune din europa
Cu toate acestea cred ca Iasiul se va dezvolta foarte frumos si isi va ocupa locul care il merita atat in Ro cat si la nivel european drept cel mai mare oras situat la granita estica a U.E
Asteptati si o sa vedeti :)
nebunul May 8th, 2008, 03:21 PM ^^ Pai astept ... aeroportul ...ca altceva nu-l salveaza (cu adevarat ... sa fie clar) ... time is money and ... distance/time is essential (these days) for every/any investor/tourist etc
Cosmin May 8th, 2008, 03:29 PM Airport wannabe; 1.8 km runway.:puke:
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nebunul May 8th, 2008, 03:34 PM ^^ yeh ... it needs 2.8-3 km for cargoS and big planes ...
Cosmin May 8th, 2008, 03:38 PM And a REAL terminal. Not just a hut with a metal detector.:bash: Also taxiways are quite popular in airports these days.:nuts:
nebunul May 8th, 2008, 03:42 PM ZA project looks promising :cheers:
http://www.aeroport.ro/proiect%20modernizare%20aeroport-eng.htm
1. Suprafata de miscare aeroportuara
1.1. PDA inclusiv platforme si cai de rulare
1.2. Balizaj incusiv panouri de ghidaj
1.3. PNA
1.4. Imprejmuire
1.5. Sisteme supraveghere exterioare
1.6. Terasamente
2. Terminal pasageri
2.1. Terminal de pasageri
2.2. Spatii tehnice terminal pasageri
2.3. Procent valoare retele exterioare
2.4. Dotari aeroportuare
2.5. Aductiune gaze
3. Terminal Cargo
3.1. Terminal Cargo
3.2. Procent valoare retele exterioare
3.3. Parcare terminal Cargo
4. Hangar parcare si intretinere avioane
4.1. Hangar parcare si intretinere avioane - existent demolare
4.2. Hangar parcare si intretinere avioane - propus
4.3. Procent valoare retele exterioare
5. Parcaj terminal pasageri
5.1. Cladire parcaj terminal de pasageri
5.2. Platforma parcaj terminal de pasageri
5.3. Procent valoare retele exterioare
6. Retele rutiere
7. Depozit carburanti
8. Serviciul de interventii in caz de incendiu
9. Lucrari pentru protectia mediului
10. Serviciul de handling de platforma
11. Serviciul pentru intretinerea infrastructurii aeroportuare
zenden May 8th, 2008, 03:51 PM Un articol mai vechi pe tema asta dintr-un ziar local ca sa nu fie dubii in privinta vinovatii.
Sper totusi ca alegerile de anul asta sa fie de bun augur pentru iasi si sa mai schimbe din capusele din Palatul Roznovanu:
Cu toate acestea, in cei 18 ani de asidue framintari, aeroportul a evoluat in mers de melc. Ca Poli Iasi in actualul campionat. A strins multe moase, dar a ramas cu buricul netaiat. Ce-i drept, aerogara a fost modernizata in conditiile spuse mai sus, iar traficul a crescut putin. Infrastructura a ramas insa aceeasi, prielnica avioanelor mici si ostila aeronavelor de mare capacitate. Pentru rezolvarea problemei, ar trebui construita o pista noua, suficient de lunga ca sa permita aterizarea unui Boeing 707 sau a unui Airbus 300. Din nefericire, doua obstacole neprevazute s-au ridicat impotriva acestui deziderat. Cine ar fi putut, oare, banui ca pentru aceasta era nevoie de mai mult teren si de investitii financiare? Dupa atita amar de vreme, Consiliul Judetean a ajuns la concluzia ca ii mai sint necesare o suta si ceva de hectare in zona. Seful institutiei il acuza pe prefect ca nu a trimis la Guvern un proiect de hotarire prin care sa primeasca suprafata necesara. Prefectul este de alta parere si spune ca functionarii judeteni ar trebui sa pregateasca proiectul si sa i-l dea, ca sa stie ce anume sa ceara de la Guvern. Complicata dilema pare ca nu poate fi rezolvata decit de experti.
In privinta banilor, parerile sint impartite, iar responsabilitatea este pasata de la unul la altul ca pe un cartof fierbinte. Unii spun ca Guvernul trebuie sa finanteze investitia. Guvernul a dat insa bani pentru aeroportul din Sibiu, cel din Iasi nefiind o prioritate, in conditiile in care exista un
alt aeroport destul de bun la Bacau. Altii sustin ca autoritatile locale au datoria sa-si asume proiectul. Dar Consiliul Judetean spune ca nu se poate indatora, iar Primaria s-a impovarat deja pentru alte chestiuni, de importanta vitala, fireste. Sint voci care cer un parteneriat public - privat, adica aeroportul sa fie dat in administrare unei firme private care sa realizeze investitia si sa-si recupereze banii din taxe. Dar pot fi gasite firme care sa-si asume cheltuirea a cel putin 60 de milioane de euro, cit ar costa dotarile minimale? Iar dupa aceasta sa doneze intreaga pista statului roman? Intregul proiect se ridica undeva la 200 milioane de euro.
Intrebarile de mai sus nu si-au gasit inca raspuns. Apropierea anului electoral a inceput, insa, sa stirneasca rumoare in grupul asa de numeros al sustinatorilor aeroportului de pe dealul de la Ciric.
Liberalii ii acuza pe pesedisti, care detin administratia locala, si invers, pesedistii vorbesc de dezinteres in tabara liberalilor. Democratii se pling ca nu mai sint la guvernare. Situatia este surprinzatoare, deoarece toata lumea lupta pentru aceeasi cauza.
In urma cu numai doi ani, cea mai mare investitie imobiliara in Iasi era complexul World Trade Center, construit de omul de afaceri Gheorghe Ionescu. Cladirea si acareturile valorau putin peste 20 de milioane de dolari. In prezent, se lucreaza in tot orasul la santiere imobiliare care depasesc suma de 800 milioane de euro. Explozia de proiecte a cam dat peste cap administratia locala, dar, in acelasi timp, poate sugera primarului sau presedintelui Consiliului Judetean o solutie pentru aeroport.
De cealalta parte, de doi ani, liberalii ieseni fac figura de tartori ai bugetului national. Avem ministri la Finante, la Justitie si la Educatie. Toata tara ne cunoaste in sfirsit si ne "apreciaza". Ministrului Chiuariu iI lipseste putin sa bata popularitatea cetateanului Mailat in Italia. In viitoarea guvernare, Iasul nu va mai fi reprezentat la un asemenea nivel. Cele doua grupuri cu influenta locala si nationala ar trebui, de aceea, sa-si uneasca eforturile pentru a specula aceasta oportunitate, in favoarea aeroportului.
Cosmin May 8th, 2008, 03:51 PM ^^
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nebunul May 8th, 2008, 03:53 PM ^^ Nice one ... cheers for your effort :cheers:
Cosmin May 8th, 2008, 04:01 PM And a comparison between Iasi and Otopeni.
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nebunul May 8th, 2008, 04:20 PM ^^ Not bad ... I'd say ZA runway will be upgraded by 2009 (end) ... and whole project ~ 2012-2013
Ce optimist sint heheheh :nuts::lol::cheers:
Cosmin May 8th, 2008, 04:24 PM What runway upgrade are you talking about? It needs a NEW runway, adjacent to the existing one which will most likely receive a cute yellow "X" at each end and thus being closed.
nebunul May 8th, 2008, 04:29 PM ^^ well "they" kept calling it "upgrade" as 10 mil RON have been given by the gov last year for "runway upgrade"; but could not be used for various (legal) reasons - LeClerk's bunch/fault mainly :lol::cheers: ... but,yep, you're right ... will be a new one
Cosmin May 8th, 2008, 04:45 PM LeClerk's bunch/fault mainly :lol::cheers:
:lol:
Le Clerk May 8th, 2008, 06:02 PM ^^ LeClerk's bunch/fault mainly :lol::cheers: ... but,yep, you're right ... will be a new one
Only now I saw that. Yep, we're trouble makers. :D
YU-AMC May 10th, 2008, 08:19 AM I always wanted to ask...... What size aircrafts land on that smaller runway IN Otopeni? Like what happens if you miss the taxiway turn? Does it get used often and why they did not build nice proper runway at the first place?
Thank you
Cosmin May 10th, 2008, 10:37 AM Smaller runway? Both runways (08R/26L and 08L/26R) are 3.5 km long. If you're talking about the taxiway not being extended to the end of the Southern runway (08R/26L) I don't know... poor design, but the taxiway for the other runway (08L/26R) was even smaller a until 2 years ago or so. It extended only for the length of the grey part. The white part was build recently.
Otopeni handled the largest of jets even before that taxiway was extended. Air Force One, various other 747s and even an An-124 all landed at OTP.
If they miss the taxiway after landing on 08R (landing from the left of the picture on the Southern runway), they just turn at the end of the runway. That's why they have that small turning plate there. If they land on 26L (from the right of the picture) if they miss the last taxiway they miss the runway and are in deep shit. This has never happened.
Also, out of 10 times I pass Otopeni, in about 7 I see aircraft landing on 08R, so it's used very often.
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Free_flow77 May 11th, 2008, 05:53 PM E cel mai tare aeroport din Romania pt ca e cel mai nou terminal...pacat ca e pustiiiu si alte aeroporturi (Timisoara, Cluj) se sufoca.
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Le Clerk May 11th, 2008, 10:14 PM The Diplomat
May 2008
South Bucharest muted for third airport
Minister of Transport Ludovic Orban has said the Capitals local authorities will decide the location of a new airport in south Bucharest. The proposed areas include Popesti Leordeni, 1 Decembrie and Adunatii Copaceni.
The Minister said the construction of the airport should be finished in two years after works start. Traffic in Baneasa Airport Aurel Vlaicu will be restricted due to the real estate boom in north Bucharest and environment regulations. This means there is a massive need for a new international airport. Baneasa Airport will remain open for small planes, helicopters, private and business jets.
YU-AMC May 12th, 2008, 04:57 AM Yeah, the one on south side. I was not sure about the size of that runway on south side. So that means Delta's 767 and TArom's A310 land on both of them?
Cool! Thank you cosmin
Cosmin May 12th, 2008, 09:23 AM Yeah, the one on south side. I was not sure about the size of that runway on south side. So that means Delta's 767 and TArom's A310 land on both of them?
Cool! Thank you cosmin
Delta's 767, TAROM's A310, Air Force One... you name it. Both runways can accommodate these aircraft.
Le Clerk May 16th, 2008, 05:14 PM Business Standard
16/05/2008
The new terminal will also operate large aircraft.
Noul terminal si pista Aeroportului Sibiu vor fi inaugurate in 4 iulie
Noul terminal si pista Aeroportului Sibiu vor fi inaugurate in 4 iulie, dupa ce Consiliul Judetean (CJ) Sibiu a asigurat din credite ultimele 10 milioane de euro necesare finalizarii lucrarilor de extindere, a declarat pentru NewsIn vicepresedintele CJ, Iosif Moldovan.
Zilele acestea se vor finaliza lucrarile la pista cea mare, iar in 18 si 19 mai aeroportul va fi inchis pentru montarea sistemului de balizaj. In 4 iulie, tot Aeroportul va fi gata si va fi inaugurat, a spus Moldovan.
Investitia totala la Aeroportul din Sibiu va ajunge la 77 milioane euro, din care Guvernul Romaniei a alocat doar 11 milioane, desi initial prevazuse in buget o suma aproape dubla, 20 milioane euro.
Dupa finalizarea lucrarilor de extindere, aeroportul din Sibiu va avea capacitatea de a opera aeronave de mari dimensiuni. De asemenea, mai multe companii low-cost si-au anuntat intentia de a opera de pe aeroportul din Sibiu.
Conform datelor oferite de CJ, numarul persoanelor care au tranzitat Aeroportul Sibiu aproape s-a dublat in 2007 fata de anii precedenti, de la 70.000 la aproximativ 150.000 la finalul anului trecut.
NewsIn
pescarush May 17th, 2008, 11:05 AM Otopeni Airport- General Development Plan
arhismodul.ro (http://www.arhismodul.ro/)
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Cosmin May 17th, 2008, 11:12 AM Cool! That's exactly what I know they're planning for 2010.:D But where did you find it? Can you also provide a link? Thanks.:cheers:
commodore May 17th, 2008, 04:55 PM Otopeni Airport, welcome shower
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commodore May 17th, 2008, 05:01 PM edit
Cosmin May 17th, 2008, 05:17 PM Otopeni Airport, welcome shower
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Any idea what was the occasion?
Ivanski May 17th, 2008, 05:19 PM Otopeni Airport- General Development Plan
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^^Nice :)
nebunul May 22nd, 2008, 03:49 PM Cluj-Napoca Airport - new Arrivals terminal
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Cosmin May 22nd, 2008, 04:40 PM I believe this is how it looks on the outside.
It's better than nothing, but frankly I'm disappointed by all the new terminals that have been built. They're cheap boxes with more or less glass incorporated in them and a lot of grey.:ohno: The only real terminal is that of Henri Coandă so far and I hope terminal 2 of Henri Coandă will be no cheap box.:bash:
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cezarsab May 24th, 2008, 06:21 PM Good bye ROMANIA... Henri Coanda International Airport....
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Le Clerk May 27th, 2008, 09:36 PM Orban stated this today in a show on B1 TV, but he didn't mention the location. He also said that Baneasa will steadily develop into a private jets aiport and heliport.
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Le Clerk June 5th, 2008, 04:48 PM Business Standard
05/06/2008
New airport in southern Bucharest to be built near beltway
The new airport to be built in southern Bucharest could be located near the village of Adunatii Copaceni, some two kilometers from the beltway, according to Transportation Minister Ludovic Orban on Thursday.
He added that work could be completed in two years.
The project to build a new airport close to the capital was recently launched by the Transportation Ministry, but no location had been set.
Bucharest currently has two international airports, both located in the northern part of the city.
bgrs June 6th, 2008, 10:37 PM Is it true that you're closing Baneasa and building another one, 30 km away from the Bulgarian border?
Le Clerk June 7th, 2008, 09:09 AM Is it true that you're closing Baneasa and building another one, 30 km away from the Bulgarian border?
AFAIK, if the 3rd airport gets built, Baneasa will stay as a charter/business aiport and helliport (at least that's what the transportation minister claimed).
And yes, the southern aiport will be built in the Giurgiu county, about 30 km from the border. :cheers:
nebunul June 7th, 2008, 11:19 AM Suceava Airport
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Andrei S. June 8th, 2008, 09:17 AM Sursa:http://www.zf.ro/articol_175027/orban__aeroportul_din_sudul_capitalei__la_adunatii_copaceni.html
Viitorul aeroport din sudul Bucurestiului va fi amplasat cel mai probabil in dreptul localitatii Adunatii Copaceni, judetul Giurgiu, a declarat ieri ministrul transporturilor, Ludovic Orban.
"Aeroportul din sud cel mai probabil va fi la Adunatii Copaceni, la 2 kilometri de centura localitatii, in dreapta cum vii de la Bucuresti", a spus Orban, citat de Mediafax.
Localitatea se afla la circa 20 de kilometri de Bucuresti pe soseaua Bucuresti-Giurgiu, care a fost in mare parte modernizata la patru benzi si, ca toate zonele din jurul Capitalei, a atras in ultimii ani mai multi investitori
Le Clerk June 8th, 2008, 01:39 PM Business Standard
08/06/2008
Blue Air plans to participate in new Aurel Vlaicu Airport departure terminal
Blue Air plans to participate in the building of the new departure terminal at Aurel Vlaicu Airport in the Baneasa area, which would cost some 10 million, said the General Manager of the Airport, Stefan Mladin.
"The construction of a new departure terminal is necessary," said Mladin. As the number of passengers has increased in the past three years, the current terminal can no longer handle the traffic.
Mladin said that the new terminal will have a capacity of over 2 million passengers. Some 4 million passengers passed through Aurel Vlaicu Airport in 2007, and the number of passengers is expected to exceed 8 million in the next few years.
The new extension is planned to feature a cargo section (for the commercial centers in the area) and a VIP section. :cheers:
Cosmin June 8th, 2008, 02:17 PM 4 mil pax?!:eek: Are you shitting me? This means that combined with Henri Coandă we have 9 mil. pax, which is more than Budapest handled in 2007 (8.6 mil).:banana:
tomis3 June 20th, 2008, 10:40 AM Business Standard
08/06/2008
The new extension is planned to feature a cargo section (for the commercial centers in the area) and a VIP section. :cheers:
Isn't Baneasa dead?? Sounds like money down the drain to me.
nebunul June 24th, 2008, 02:37 PM Suceava Airport
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Le Clerk July 24th, 2008, 05:07 PM Autor: Ziarul Financiar
Data: 24-07-2008
Transilvania Expres: Constructia aeroportului Brasov - Ghimbav va incepe in noiembrie
Reprezentantii Consiliului Judetean Brasov s-au intalnit ieri cu o delegatie a companiei candiene Intelcan, condusa de Ronald Weissberger, care va construi aeroportul Brasov-Ghimbav, si un grup de investitori bancari din Elvetia, ce si-au aratat intentia de a contribui financiar la realizarea acestui proiect, scrie cotidianul regional Transilvania Expres.
Weissberger a explicat ca aranjamentul bancar nu se va putea incheia decat atunci cand administratia judeteana brasoveana va putea sa puna la dispozitia companiei o scrisoare prin care sa ateste faptul ca dispune de toate terenurile.
Sursa: www.zf.ro/articol_180820
commodore July 25th, 2008, 09:49 PM Winter time on Otopeni Airport:
more on flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/flyingsig/sets/72157603663400375/)
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Le Clerk July 25th, 2008, 11:45 PM Winter time on Otopeni Airport:
more on flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/flyingsig/sets/72157603663400375/)
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That snow plougher looks cool. :D
Cosmin July 25th, 2008, 11:56 PM Looks more like a tow truck to me.
Cosmin July 29th, 2008, 09:30 AM 100,000 EUR Feasibility Study for Building Deva Airport
Aeroportul, un proiect reīnviat
Conducerea Consiliului Judeţean Hunedoara a semnat, ieri, cu firma italiană Societa Geasar SpA contractul pentru realizarea studiului de fezabilitate referitor la construirea unui aeroport lāngă Deva.
Studiul va costa aproximativ 100.000 de euro. Italienii şi-au arătat disponibilitatea de a efectua şi lucrările propriu-zise de construcţie. Aeroportul va fi putea fi folosit, īn prima fază, de avioane mici, pentru curse charter.
:banana:
Rhemaxos July 29th, 2008, 05:02 PM 100,000 EUR Feasibility Study for Building Deva Airport
:banana:
Even though the passenger air traffic more than doubled between 2000 and 2006 and this trend appears to have accelerated since the accession date, Romania still have more regional airports than necessary (in terms of both real and forecasted traffic demand and accesibility needs). Most of the traffic is currently concentrated in four airports (Bucharest Henri Coanda, Bucharest Aurel Vlaicu, Timisoara and Cluj) which, together with Constanta, Sibiu, Iasi, Bacau and Oradea, count for 98% of the total flows.
Moreover, only two of the airports (Bucharest Henri Coanda and Timisoara) are self-sustainable in financial terms, the rest being fully dependent on subsidies.
It is understandable why the local authorities are so enthusiastically announcing projects like building new airports or substantially increasing the capacity of the existing ones (seems like a matter of regional pride to me). It is also not so complicate to prove through some sort of "feasibility studies" that such investments are financially and economically feasible. But in real terms, such invetsments are (in most cases) nothing more than a waste of money...
High Mileager August 7th, 2008, 01:52 PM Certificarea aeroporturilor civile va fi făcută prin ordine ale ministrului Transporturilor, şi nu prin hotărāri de guvern, ca īn prezent, iar zborurile care leagă aeroporturile din Romānia de cele ale altui stat unde se aplică integral aquis-ul Schengen vor fi considerate zboruri interne.
"Certificarea unui aeroport civil de pe teritoriul Romāniei ca fiind aeroport internaţional sau deschis traficului aerian internaţional se face prin ordin al ministrului Transporturilor, pe baza constatărilor şi recomandărilor cuprinse īn raportul īntocmit de o comisie de evaluare. De la data ridicării controalelor la frontierele aeriene, ca urmare a intrării īn vigoare a Deciziei Consiliului de aplicare integrală a prevederilor aquis-ului Schengen pe teritoriul Romāniei, zborurile efectuate īntre aeroporturile din Romānia şi aeroporturile de pe teritoriul unui stat care aplică integral aquis-ul Schengen vor fi considerate zboruri interne", se arată īntr-un proiect de hotărāre de guvern, elaborat de Ministerul Transporturilor.
De asemenea, de la aceeaşi dată, aeroporturile care nu solicită sau nu primesc certificarea stabilită prin hotărārea de guvern nu mai pot efectua zboruri care au ca origine sau destinaţie aeroporturi situate pe teritoriul statelor care nu sunt părţi la Acordul īntre guvernele statelor Uniunii Economice Benelux, al Republicii Federale Germania şi al Republicii Franceze privind eliminarea treptată a controalelor la frontierele comune.
Aeroporturile deschise traficului aerian internaţional pot permite zboruri internaţionale numai īn mod ocazional.
Proiectul de act normativ stabileşte procedura de certificare, evaluare şi autoevaluare a aeroporturilor declarate ca fiind internaţionale sau deschise traficului aerian internaţional.
Īndeplinirea criteriilor de către aeroporturi vor fi verificate de comisii de evaluare care vor fi numite printr-un ordin al ministrului.
Comisiile vor fi formate din trei reprezentanţi ai Ministerul Transporturilor, doi reprezentanţi ai Ministerului Internelor şi Reformei Administrative şi cāte un reprezentant al Minsterului Economiei şi Finanţelor, al Ministerului Sănătăţii Publice şi al Ministerului Agriculturii şi Dezvoltării Rurale.
Evaluarea aeroporturilui va fi efectuată la cererea acestuia, iar documentele de certificare vor fi eliberate pe o perioadă nedeterminată.
Comisia va realiza raportul īn 60 de zile de la numirea sa, dar nu mai mult de şase luni de la data īnregistrării cererii, urmānd ca raportul să fie aprobat de ministrul Transporturilor.
Aeroportul va fi reevaluat īn cazuri precum efectuarea unor lucrări de modernizare sau apariţia unor schimbări substanţiale de trafic.
Pentru activitatea desfăşurată, membrii comisiei de evaluare, precum şi membrii comisiei de reevaluare beneficiază de o indemnizaţie lunară īn cuantum de 50% din venitul lunar brut al directorului general al aeroportului evaluat, respectiv reevaluat, plătită de aeroportul īn cauză, pe periada de evaluare.
Īn prezent, īn Romānia există 16 aeroporturi civile, dintre care īn 14 funcţionează puncte de trecere a frontierei de stat şi birouri vamale, iar unul este deschis traficului aerian internaţional.
..www.mediafax.ro
High Mileager August 7th, 2008, 02:19 PM Prima licitaţie a avut loc īn octombrie 2007, iar de atunci au mai urmat două, dar investitorii nu s-au īngrămădit. Īn aceste zile(mai 2008), la cea de-a treia licitaţie pentru aeroport a venit un singur investitor, dar nu a avut documentaţia completă.
A treia licitaţie internaţională pentru realizarea obiectivului “Aeroportul Internaţional Dunărea de Jos” ,a avut loc īn aceste zile, dar tot fără sorţi de izbāndă. Secretarul Consiliului Judeţean Brăila, Nicu Filote, ne-a declarat că la licitaţie s-a prezentat un singur investitor, dar care nu a īndeplinit criteriile de eligibilitate īntrucāt nu avea la dosar garanţia bancară. ”Cel mai probabil va mai urma o nouă licitaţie, la care investitorii să aibă documentaţia completă”, a subliniat Filote. Pe parcursul licitaţiilor, cu acordul favorabil al consilierilor judeţeni, condiţiile din caietul de sarcini au fost schimbate de două ori, īntrucāt s-a considerat că au fost severe. Cu toate acestea, interesul pentru aeroport rămāne īn continuare subţire, investiţia fiind apreciabilă.
Prima oară
La data de 26 octombrie 2007, a avut loc licitaţia internaţională īn vederea concesionării lucrărilor publice al cărei obiect l-a constituit realizarea obiectivului investiţional “Aeroportul Internaţional Dunărea de Jos”, situat īn extravilanul comunei Vădeni. Consilierii judeţeni au aprobat colectivul de coordonare şi supervizare pentru atribuirea contractului de concesiune lucrări publice pentru obiectivul menţionat, din comisie făcānd parte şapte funcţionari publici şi doi consilieri, etapele premergătoare organizării licitaţiei fiind parcurse. Consilierii judeţeni au propus atragerea unui număr mare de ofertanţi, mai ales prin stabilirea duratei de concesionare pe 49 de ani, similar cu durata unui contract de concesiune de bunuri. Conform actelor de proprietate, terenul unde se va afla aeroportul are o suprafaţă totală de 1275,67 ha. Investiţia propusă are ca scop, īn prima etapă, realizarea unui aeroport cargo şi de pasageri şi este menită să determine o stimulare a investiţiilor la nivel regional. Valoarea totală a investiţiei: sută la sută fonduri private din fonduri mobilizate exclusiv de către concesionar. CJ nu deţine sursa bugetară pentru această investiţie, astfel īncāt s-a făcut uz de posibilitatea legală pentru realizarea unui obiectiv de interes public, să concesioneze astfel de lucrări.
Scris de Gina Bahor(ziaruldebraila.ro)
Joi, 29 Mai 2008
Guys,any updates on this?
If I well-understood they are looking after a 300 mil investment..willing to build one of the largest airports in South-east Europe..
That might not be such a good idea putting off some investors..They should probably build a smaller airport (appropriate for Galati-Braila region needs) and than,later on if the demand will become high expand it ..
Cosmin August 7th, 2008, 02:36 PM What do they need one of the largest airports in S-E Europe for?!:?
tomis3 August 7th, 2008, 04:00 PM What do they need one of the largest airports in S-E Europe for?!:?
A Galati-Braila airport would be a good idea (much like a new Timisoara-Arad airport). But it doesn't have be to the largest in SE Europe. That would be a waste of money.
Cosmin August 7th, 2008, 05:47 PM That's right! I'm for building an airport there, but something like... say Timisoara, not a big one like they say in this article. Who knows? Maybe it's just bragging, like we usually see in these kind of articles.:)
High Mileager August 7th, 2008, 07:27 PM That's right! I'm for building an airport there, but something like... say Timisoara
Exactly!..that would be the correct size. There are many international airports(really busy) built on less than 500 ha,and these Braila guys are talking 1275ha which is ridicolous..
below an other article from evz..
http://www.e-transport.ro/AEROPORT_LA_BRAILA_UN_PROIECT_FANTEZIST-i105-news7889-p82.html
Also, in order to succeed, this project should be supported by both,Braila and Galati counties... not only BR as demonstration that they can build it on their own..
EduardSA August 7th, 2008, 07:30 PM Awesome project for the Braila/Galati area. Will definitely increase investment, especially with the river port adjacent.
Btw whats happening with Otopeni and its modernization?
High Mileager August 7th, 2008, 07:44 PM Apparently they are trying to get going at Oradea as well..
http://www.realitateabihoreana.ro/content.php?c=articole&id_categorie=6&articol_id=3159&p=3
and some pics from Oradea airport
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/9086/oradea02zi9.jpg
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/7673/oradea04mi9.jpg
Shot with SP500UZ (http://profile.imageshack.us/camerabuy.php?model=SP500UZ&make=OLYMPUS+IMAGING+CORP)
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/2353/oradea05de4.jpg
High Mileager August 7th, 2008, 07:53 PM Awesome project for the Braila/Galati area. Will definitely increase investment, especially with the river port adjacent
"Stai linistit ca mai e mult pana departe" :) .. Mai intai trebuie sa gaseasca finantare ori un investitor dispus "sa se bage" in asa combinatie..
Btw whats happening with Otopeni and its modernization?
Nu stiu despre Otopeni dar la Baneasa se pare ca lucrurile se misca mult mai incet decat planuisera initial..
Un articol de pe www.astazi.ro..
Aeroport Baneasa - Investiţii amīnate pentru 2020
06/08/2008
Programul strategic de dezvoltare a Aeroportului Aurel Vlaicu din Băneasa a fost modificat, unele investiţii fiind amīnate cu pīnă la 10 ani, potrivit unui proiect de hotărīre de Guvern elaborat de Ministerul Transporturilor.
Astfel, ceea ce era prevăzut să se finalizeze pīnă īn 2010 se va finaliza pīnă īn 2020. Construirea unui terminal de aviaţie generală, a unui salon oficial şi lărgirea căii de rulare de pe Aeroportul Băneasa vor fi amīnate cu doi ani, pīnă īn 2010, īn timp ce termenele pentru amenajarea unui heliport şi a unui supermarket au fost prelungite cu 10 ani. Modernizarea şi extinderea aerogării existente, repararaţia capitală a suprafeţelor de mişcare şi a balizajului luminos au fost executate sau sīnt īn curs de execuţie. Investiţii la hangarul īntreţinere şi reparaţii aeronave şi la terminalul de pasageri urmează să īnceapă īn cursul acestui an.
TERMENE. O parte din lucrări, cum ar fi construirea unor parcări aferente terminalului de aviaţie şi amenajările rutiere, avea ca termen de finalizare acest an, īnsă perioada de execuţie a fost prelungită pīnă īn 2010. Tot īn 2010, aeroportul va avea un nou terminal de plecări, un rezervor de apă şi un drum de acces pentru traficul auto greu. Alte modernizări, precum construirea unui turn de control, a căilor de rulare pentru elicoptere şi extinderea platformei pentru aeronave mari, vor mai īntīrzia pīnă īn 2015, iar finalizarea construcţiei unui terminal cargo a fost stabilită pentru 2014. Totodată, supermarketul, spitalul de tranzit, parcările, amenajările rutiere, pasajul rutier superior, drumul de acces īn zona de nord vor trebui să fie finalizate īn 2020.
ACTIVITATE. Traficul aeroportului a crescut neaşteptat de mult īn perioada 2004-2007, īnregistrīnd un avans de 812% pentru traficul de pasageri(The increase is the largest recorded during one year in the history of modern air transport-wikipidea), de 221% pentru cel de marfă şi de 269% pentru numărul de mişcări de aeronave, se spune īn proiectul de hotărīre de Guvern. Traficul de pasageri este preconizat să ajungă īn 2015 la două milioane de călători, iar numărul de mişcări de aeronave, la 30.000.
Cosmin August 7th, 2008, 08:07 PM Bataie de joc la Baneasa. Aeroportul ala are nevoie de modernizari si (mici) extinderi ca de aer. Iar in 2020 s-ar putea sa nu mai existe, sau poate ca se stie asta deja si de asta s-au "amanat" investitiile.;)
EduardSA August 7th, 2008, 08:11 PM That sux! Romania could achieve so many stuff if it didn't drag its feet!! Romania, IMO, is better at planning rather than executing. In Johannesburg, South Africa we're building one of the largest airports in the Africa/Middle East region competing with the Dubai airport, and we are building two other airports (Cape Town (awarded best airport in Africa) & Durban) which are bigger than Otopeni or any other airport in Romania, yet their construction period is only 3-4 years. And these are modern, high quality airports! Its kinda embarassing that an African country is able to process tenders, plans, etc and construct at a faster pace than an EU country!! It should not take a decade just to build a terminal pier. Pitiful... Everything is going well for Romania at the moment, the country should take advantage of it while it still lasts.
tomis3 August 7th, 2008, 08:19 PM Bataie de joc la Baneasa. Aeroportul ala are nevoie de modernizari si (mici) extinderi ca de aer. Iar in 2020 s-ar putea sa nu mai existe, sau poate ca se stie asta deja si de asta s-au "amanat" investitiile.;)
Ce rost are sa mai faci investii in Baneasa tinand cont de faptul ca se va construi un nou aeroport? Baneasa ocupa o suprafata de 180 hectare; daca s-ar vinde terenul respectiv cu 1,000 EURO mp, s-ar obtine 1.8 miliarde. Cu banii astia poti transforma Otopeniul (ce risipa de spatiu e acolo) si cred ca iti mai ramane sa faci si un alt aeroport mai mic.
High Mileager August 8th, 2008, 01:15 AM Ce rost are sa mai faci investii in Baneasa tinand cont de faptul ca se va construi un nou aeroport? Baneasa ocupa o suprafata de 180 hectare; daca s-ar vinde terenul respectiv cu 1,000 EURO mp, s-ar obtine 1.8 miliarde. Cu banii astia poti transforma Otopeniul (ce risipa de spatiu e acolo) si cred ca iti mai ramane sa faci si un al aeroport mai mic.
Baneasa trebuie "pastrat" acolo unde e .. Are o pozitie excelenta.E adevarat
c-are nevoie de investitii dar atata timp cat sunt pasageri si bani de investitii se vor gasi.
tomis3 August 8th, 2008, 01:47 AM Baneasa trebuie "pastrat" acolo unde e .. Are o pozitie excelenta.E adevarat
c-are nevoie de investitii dar atata timp cat sunt pasageri si bani de investitii se vor gasi.
Pozitia e excelenta pt altceva.
joce23 August 8th, 2008, 07:23 AM Traffic at Aurel Vlaicu Airport up 30% in June
Aurel Vlaicu International Airport, located in Baneasa, north of Bucharest, registered a 30 percent year-on-year increase in the number of passengers in June and July, according to its General Manager, Stefan Mladin. Main destinations were Tunis, Palma de Mallorca, Turkey and Italy.
The airport is undergoing an infrastructure development plan, including runway expansion, expansion of the platform for large aircraft, and a waste treatment station. These projects are part of the first stage of the strategic plan, Mladin said.
Furthermore, a parking lot with some 500 spaces and an integrated security system are needed.
Some 50 large planes and 78-80 smaller ones take off from or land daily at Aurel Vlaicu Airport, with low-cost airlines the principal users.
The airport turnover amounted to some 3 million in the first four months of 2008. By the end of the year, the company estimates some 15-20 million in turnover and one million passengers.
... http://www.standard.ro/articol_55464/traffic_at_aurel_vlaicu_airport_up_30__in_june.html
High Mileager August 8th, 2008, 10:21 PM Pozitia e excelenta pt altceva.
:) :) Stiu. Dar eu sper sa ramana aeroport acolo..un fel de London City Airport al nostru..(aeroportul ala a rezistat in centru, desi Londra mai are 4 aeroporturi mai mari ..+ alte vreo 8-10 mai mici prin imprejurimi)
tomis3 August 8th, 2008, 10:46 PM :) :) Stiu. Dar eu sper sa ramana aeroport acolo..un fel de London City Airport al nostru..(aeroportul ala a rezistat in centru, desi Londra mai are 4 aeroporturi mai mari ..+ alte vreo 8-10 mai mici prin imprejurimi)
Romania nu-si permite nostalgii din astea. Terenul pe care se afla Baneasa ar trebui vandut si banii investiti in infrastructura (Otopeni + alte proiecte). Asta e singura solutie inteligenta. Baneasa oricum arata ca un bufet jegos si ca sa faci un aeroport decent tre sa razi tot.
Cat kitsch...cat prost gust. :bash::bash:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/Baneasa_airport_outside1.jpg
d29 August 9th, 2008, 02:19 AM Zici ca-i gara din Constanta.
Cosmin August 9th, 2008, 09:31 AM Nu inteleg ce nu va place. E un aeroport mic si cochet, iar culoarea e perfecta, de WC public.:nuts:
tomis3 August 9th, 2008, 05:30 PM Nu inteleg ce nu va place. E un aeroport mic si cochet, iar culoarea e perfecta, de WC public.:nuts:
Hai sa nu exageram....arata a bufet. :lol:
joce23 August 13th, 2008, 07:55 AM Constanta and Timisoara airports shares, on the Stock Exchange
Financiarul (http://www.financiarul.ro/2008/08/12/constanta-and-timisoara-airports-shares-on-the-stock-exchange/)
Financial Investment Companies (SIFs) interested in participating in the Stock Exchange listing process of Constanta (east) and Timisoara (west) airports will submit offers to this end, up to August 25, in the case of the first airport and, respectively, September 1, in the second.
The Ministry of Transport organizes tenders for the selection of consultants in order to float 5% share package of Mihail Kogalniceanu International Airport (Constanta) and Traian Vuia International Airport (Timisoara) on the Stock Exchange, according to an announcement of the institution remitted to Bucharest Stock Exchange (BVB).
The offers for Constanta airport will be opened on August 27 and those for Timisoara airport on September 3.
According to the announcement, the bidding is open to the financial investment companies or credit institutions, individuals or organizations in mediation syndicates registered with the National Securities Commission (CNVM).
The law stipulates that the state must put up on sale share packages of 5% of the capital of state-owned companies in which the Property Fund is one of the shareholders, the Ministry of Transport having eight such companies in its portfolio.
The eight companies subordinated to the ministry, to be listed on the Stock Exchange, are the National Company Bucharest Henri Coanda International Airport, the National Company Bucharest Baneasa Aurel Vlaicu International Airport, Mihail Kogalniceau - Constanta International Airport, the Administration of Navigable Channels Constanta, the Administration of the Maritime Danube Ports Galati, the Maritime Ports Administration Constanta and River Danube Ports Administration Giurgiu.
Le Clerk August 16th, 2008, 07:33 PM A private airport (http://www.businessmagazin.ro/analize/transporturi/schita-pentru-un-aeroport-privat.html?5854;2917430) in Bucharest?
High Mileager August 16th, 2008, 08:35 PM Pana la al treilea aeroport ..trebuiesc modernizate Otopeni si Baneasa..
Pe termen lung mi se pare ideala ecuatia: Otopeni(dezvoltat bine),Baneasa (general aviation)..+eventual un alt aeroport( care sa fie deja gata spre 2015-2020 dar de o calitate super,cu care sa se poata "convinge" ca Buc. poate intra la organizarea unei mari competitii etc)
si...ar mai fi Alexeni..de langa Urziceni ce poate fi dezvoltat de la gradul de .."puscarie" la "gradul" de aeroport regional ori low cost, asa cum isi propusese Berceanu..
Mai stie careva de ceva planuri pt aeroportul(aerodromul asta) ?
Sper sa nu se piarda si locatia asta cum s-a pierdut si cea de langa Titu, care mie mi se parea ideala pt un al treilea aeroport..
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/4002/alexenistripqo7.jpg
:cheers:
Cosmin August 16th, 2008, 10:19 PM Well, it's closer to the city than Beauvais Tille (85 km from Paris) or Hahn (120 km from Frankfurt), I'll give you that.:nuts: And these two seem to do pretty well, and are in fact very similar to Alexeni... not much more than a runway or two and a simple terminal.
They need to extend the runway, built the terminal, upgrade the road, cause I presume it's your standard two-laned road, and create some shuttle routes.
Speaking of Beauvais, my friends I told you about somewhere around here:nuts:, came back from Paris a week ago and they said Beauvais is about a big a dumpster like Baneasa, as I expected.:lol: But the good thing is you can get to Paris for like 100+ EUR (1 EUR ticket + taxes).
Wish EasyJet would do OTP-CDG. Quite a few Easy aircraft at CDG each day... and these guys almost always use major airports but still manage to have low prices. But I digress...:bash:
High Mileager August 16th, 2008, 11:39 PM Well, it's closer to the city than Beauvais Tille (85 km from Paris) or Hahn (120 km from Frankfurt), I'll give you that.:nuts: And these two seem to do pretty well, and are in fact very similar to Alexeni... not much more than a runway or two and a simple terminal.
They need to extend the runway, built the terminal, upgrade the road, cause I presume it's your standard two-laned road, and create some shuttle routes.
Speaking of Beauvais, my friends I told you about somewhere around here:nuts:, came back from Paris a week ago and they said Beauvais is about a big a dumpster like Baneasa, as I expected.:lol: But the good thing is you can get to Paris for like 100+ EUR (1 EUR ticket + taxes).
Wish EasyJet would do OTP-CDG. Quite a few Easy aircraft at CDG each day... and these guys almost always use major airports but still manage to have low prices. But I digress...:bash:
As long as the tickets are cheap and there is a shuttle or a railway going there I can't be bothered..I don't care much how the airport looks like either..Distancewise I'm driving to OTP more than 100km anyway..so..as long as my plane "goes down smoothly" I won't mind these details..
From STN(few tens of km outside London) the cheapest way to get to Central London is by bus..it costs 8 pounds..more than the plane tickets of Ryanair to many European destinations !..the cheapest train ticket is 17 pounds(if I well remember) so it's a good thing for the local economy(especially transportation companies)
As a low cost Alexeni will do well..the $1 mil question is ..Will any investor spot that opportunity?
Cosmin August 16th, 2008, 11:59 PM as long as my plane "goes down smoothly" I won't mind these details..
That's an unfortunate combination of words.:rofl:
Yeah, well... what I don't like at these low-cost between Bucharest and Paris is mainly the fact that they use Beauvais, which is fucking far and being small is not an advantage in this case, because it leads to chaos... so forget CDG being chaotic.:lol: Other than that they're fine...
High Mileager August 17th, 2008, 12:51 AM ....Beauvais, which is fucking far and being small is not an advantage in this case, because it leads to chaos... so forget CDG being chaotic.:lol: Other than that they're fine...
^^:)You just remind it me of a lay over I had at CDG couple years ago..I will never forget that "chaotic" airport..went around by bus a lot..had to pass thru immigration one more time(very long lines) although it was just a transfer ...and then walk out the terminal to the plane on concrete... climbed up the plane stairs (very similar style to Ryanair at CND:))..so no gangway etc,..Not impressed with CDG , I must say..but as I said these are just details ..
Well, nobody likes it when the airport is far but in some cases that's part of the "low cost" thing..However if the city is by the seaside, the runway can be approached from the sea(not too many complaints about noise etc) so the airport can be built closer , Pisa for instance (you can just walk from terminal to downtown) or San Diego.
The chaos mostly happens due to airport mismanagement(flights schedule etc) and man or equipment failure (T5 case:)
As you said "they will be fine"..although these type of airports are a bit far in today's world is something normal to have 1h drive to/from the airport(even more)..
:cheers:
High Mileager August 17th, 2008, 12:57 AM Dupa Baneasa s-a amanat si modernizarea aeroportului iesean ..
http://www.financiarul.ro/2008/08/09/iasi-lucrarile-de-modernizare-a-aeroportului-amanate/
in schimb la Baia Mare se investeste..
Investitie de 6,8 milioane de euro la Aeroportul din Baia Mare de pe www.infonews.ro
"La Aeroportul International din Baia Mare,judetul Maramures, vor īncepe lucrarile de modernizare, lucrari care au o valoare totala de investitii de 6,8 milioane euro, transmite corespondentul AMSO News.
Īn ultima sedinta a Consiliului Judetean Maramures, consilierii au aprobat indicatorii tehnico-economici privind extinderea si
modernizarea aeroportului, obiectivele cele mai importante fiind cladirea terminalului, care trebuie sa asigure separarea fluxului de trafic si control al pasagerilor, precum si al bagajelor de māna si de cala, modernizarea cladirilor anexe pentru serviciile publice aferente, refacerea retelelor de utilitati si dotarea cu un sistem modern de navigatie aeriana.
Presedintele Consiliului Judetean Maramures, Marinel Kovacs, a specificat ca modernizarea aeroportului din Baia Mare, s-a impus avānd īn vedere faptul ca acesta a primit, īn toamna anului trecut, rang de aeroport international, dar mai ales ca din data de 21 aprilie a devenit operabila prima cursa aeriana internationala, Baia Mare-Viena."
Alexa Nikita
Baia Mare Airport Runway
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/9707/aeroportbm1yp9.jpg
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/3115/aeroportulbmoy0.jpg
nebunul August 17th, 2008, 08:27 PM ^^ :bash::bash::bash: :gaah:
Baneasa oricum arata ca un bufet jegos si ca sa faci un aeroport decent tre sa razi tot.
Cat kitsch...cat prost gust. :bash::bash:
IMO Baneasa is not well managed ... the airport is small indeed but I've seen worse .... so (again) I'd blame the management :bash:
BTW 6.00 am
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/179/dscn0637tv1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
High Mileager August 17th, 2008, 11:17 PM That paint was a terrible idea, I admit it.. and obviously the terminal building needs upgrading ..
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/4043/baneasa01va7.jpg
..and will become the perfect airport for the "guys" in the back of this pic
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/5503/myairst7.jpg
John Travolta wouldn't mind to build his house here..
http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/1341/baneasatrackqz6.png
He likes to have his plane on the driveway..
:cheers:
Cosmin August 17th, 2008, 11:19 PM nebunul, how much do you pay on average for a LTN-BBU round-trip? Have you ever flown EasyJet (LGW-OTP)?:)
nebunul August 17th, 2008, 11:35 PM PM cosmin
High Mileager August 18th, 2008, 12:15 AM Se mareste platforma la Tulcea ..
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6743/tulceata7.jpg
se pot vedea alte lucrari si-n spatele Dornierului asta
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6682/tulcea01wb6.jpg
si aici in stanga putin..
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/6430/tulcea02jg3.jpg
..din pacate, deocamdata ,n-au decat zboruri charter
Un articol mai vechi..
http://www.romanialibera.ro/a129357/nici-un-operator-aerian-pe-aeroportul-tulcea.html
High Mileager August 18th, 2008, 01:36 AM Investitia de la Aeroportul Caransebes
Aprobarea contractului de concesiune a terenurilor, necesar desfasurarii activitatii aeroportuare, firmei Argirom International, a constituit cel mai fierbinte punct de pe ordinea de zi a Sedintei Consiliului Judetean, care s-a desfasurat vineri, 20 aprilie a.c., la Hotel Tierna din Baile Herculane. Reamintim cititorilor nostri ca-n anul 2002, Consiliul Judetean a vandut intregul pachet de actiuni detinut la SC Aeroportul Caransebes SA, firmei Argirom International, care se obliga, prin contractul de vanzare-cumparare, sa realizeze investitii in valoare de 2.023.300 dolari , intr-o perioada de patru ani, incepand cu data incheierii contractului.
Numai ca realizarea respectivelor investitii era conditionata de existenta unui titlu asupra terenurilor cu pricina. Si, cum situatia juridica a terenurilor nu fusese clarificata, in anul 2003 a fost incheiat un act aditional la Contractul de vanzare-cumparare, prin care se stabilea ca termenele pentru realizarea investitiilor prevazute incep sa curga din prima zi care urmeaza incheierii contractului de concesionare a terenurilor, semnat de cele doua parti.
Aeroport de 126 de hectare
Suprafata totala necesara desfasurarii activitatii aeroportuare, pe baza solicitarii si justificarii Argirom Group SC Aeroportul Caransebes SA este de 126 ha, din care suprafata betonata 18,4 ha si suprafata inierbata 107,6 ha. Conform precizarilor facute de secretarul Ion Imbrescu, concesionarea este obligatorie, datorita faptului c-a fost prevazuta in contractul de vanzare-cumparare, iar nerespectarea acestei clauze ar atrage plata unor daune catre Consiliul Judetean, in speta, de catre acei consilieri judeteni care voteaza contra concesionarii.
Discutiile s-au incins mai ales in urma interventiei consilierului Daniel Rotaru, care a apreciat ca firma Argirom International nu va putea face investitiile la care s-a obligat, dat fiind ca nu a alocat asemenea investitii pentru niciunul din obiectivele cumparate pana acum. In plus, alti consilieri si-au exprimat temerea ca, dupa concesiune, nu se va pastra obiectul de activitate aeroportuara, desi vicepresedintele Tilica Parvulescu a insistat asupra faptului ca destinatia nu poate fi schimbata. Consilierul Gheorghe Pascu a pus paie pe foc, afirmand, in final, ca se va abtine de la vot. Alt jurist de profesie, Cristian Gafu, a avut si el o propunere pe langa lege, respectiv o reesalonare a termenelor investitiei de catre concesionar.
Armas precizeaza:
Aceste perioade de investitii nu le-am facut eu, ca persoana, ele se fac pe baza unui proiect - a precizat Iosif Armas, presedintele Consiliului de Administratie al Argirom International, prezent la sedinta. Proiectul necesita acest timp. Si, reamintesc domnilor consilieri ca din 2002 pana acum, daca nu se lucra la pista, acum, acolo era padure. Cei patru ani sunt absolut necesari. Numai balizajul, ca sa-l fac, este nevoie de un an si jumatate. Romania este membra a UE si este nevoie de autorizatia Asociatiei Internationale a Aeroporturilor, cu sediul la Viena, deci trebuie respectat proiectul si acesta prevede acesti timpi. Mai precizez ca Argirom International face parte din primele 100 de firme ale Romaniei, iar in Statiunea Baile Herculane, fara credite, s-au bagat 261 miliarde de lei si nu cred ca exista in judet cineva care sa mai fi investit aceasta suma din bani proprii. In final, concesionarea s-a aprobat cu 21 de voturi pentru. Impotriva au votat consilierii Ioan Balteanu si Daniel Rotaru si s-au abtinut alti cinci. Dupa sedinta, in exclusivitate pentru cotidianul 24 de Ore, Iosif Armas a declarat: Sunt convins ca tot impreuna cu Consiliul Judetean vom face ca Aeroportul Caransebes sa fie un aeroport international, cu toate ca unii consilieri au votat contra sau s-au abtinut de la vot. In concluzie, investitia in suma de peste doua milioane de dolari incepe, urmand sa fie realizata in cel mult patru ani.
Rodica Mihu- 24DeOre - Resita
Asta se-ntampla prin Aprilie 2007
Intre timp, de la 1 Dec 2007,Aeroclubul Romaniei a reinfiitat o sucursala dupa cum reiese din articolul de mai jos
http://www.banateanul.ro/banatul/miting-aviatic-la-caransebes-2642981
din poze se vede ca iarba e destul de "mare" semn de slaba activitate
http://www.banateanul.ro/galerie/banatul/miting-aviatic-la-caransebes-2642981#foto
apogeul fiind meeting-ul aviatic din mai
http://www.presaonline.com/stire/miting-aviatic-si----ganduri-mari-la-caransebes,266573.html
Dupa care ..tot in Mai 2008
http://www.amosnews.ro/Revitalizarea_aeroportului_din_Caransebes-245966
Interesant e ca pe Wiki e prezentat ca aeroport in toata regula
http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroportul_Interna%C5%A3ional_Caransebe%C5%9F
Cosmin August 18th, 2008, 01:48 AM Destinatiile din articolul ala de pe Wiki sunt pur si simplu scoase din burta. TAROM n-are nicio cursa directa Caransebes-Paris de exemplu, si nici de escala pe Caransebes nu am auzit. Carpatair de asemenea nu are zboruri acolo, iar de Air Moldova ce sa mai zic... ei nu au destinatii europene majore acoperite si zboara de pe "Caransebes Intl".:nuts: De fapt, toate zborurile astea sunt inexistente din cunostintele mele. Ma gandesc sa adaug si eu curse Delta si United spre NY, Washington si Chicago, ca sa fie tacamul complet.:crazy:
Zboruri Internaţionale
Air Moldova (Chişinău)
Blue Air (Lyon,Paris-Beauvais)
Germanwings (Berlin,Bonn,Dortmund,Munich)
Sky Europe (Vienna)
TAROM (Barcelona,Bologa,Dortmund,Madrid-Barajas,Paris-Charles De Gaulles,Rome-Fiumicino,Venice)
Ţiriac Air (Budapesta,Bratislava)
Wizz Air (London-Luton,Milan-Bergamo)
Zboruri interne
Blue Air (Bucureşti-Băneasa)
Carpatair (Timişoara-Traian Vuia/Bucureşti-Otopeni,prin escală)
TAROM (Arad,Baia Mare,Bacău,Craiova,Suceava,Timişoara-Traian Vuia)
Ţiriac Air (Bucureşti-Otopeni,Constanţa-Mihail Kogălniceanu,Tārgu-Mureş,Tulcea)
Sa comparam cu articolul in engleza de pe Wiki...
Caransebeş Airport (IATA: CSB, ICAO: LRCS) is located near the town of Caransebeş in western Romania, in Caraş-Severin county. A former military base, CSB is the only commercial airport in Romania not located in the proximity of a large urban area.
Currently there is no regular service on this airport. In 1994 TAROM suspended its direct flights to Bucharest.
High Mileager August 18th, 2008, 02:30 AM E clar ca articolul de pe Wiki in romana este "eronat":nuts:..exceptand partea cu taxiurile:)..e mai mult un fel de "wanna be" al cuiva din zona..
Daca ministerul de interne aduce elicoptere acolo ..cel putin nu va creste iarba printre dalele de beton..(asa sper eu sa se faca o oarecare intretinere..):cheers:
High Mileager August 18th, 2008, 02:40 AM Bacau Airport (o poza reusita, "imprumutata" de pe alt forum :wink2:)
http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/2450/bacauso1.jpg
Interesant e ca fara investitii majore Bacaul a reusit sa infiripe un orar de zbor(sosiri/plecari) destul de animat comparativ cu alte orase care,altfel, sunt mult mai bine cotate(economic,populatie ex:C-ta,Craiova,Iasi etc)
High Mileager August 18th, 2008, 03:22 AM http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/2299/ms01qt9.jpg
Also I kinda like their website..It's very neat and packed with information..
http://www.targumuresairport.ro/indexa.htm
What do you guys think?
Sorry for overposting but this evening I've notice that on this thread there is no info at all about more than half of Romanian airports..
nebunul August 18th, 2008, 11:05 AM ^^ Looks OK
I see the same touch as per OTP website
Cosmin August 18th, 2008, 12:35 PM I love all the pictures that have nothing to do with Targu Mures airport.:yes:
High Mileager August 18th, 2008, 12:53 PM ^^ How about this one ?
http://www.evenimentul.ro/articol/cj-a-preluat-aeroportul.html
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/1645/florenibg9.jpg
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/4804/floreni01pv4.jpg
Maybe Nebunul can give us more info on this as he's in the area..
even some more pics
:cheers:
High Mileager August 18th, 2008, 01:05 PM ..This is a photo of Satu Mare Airport..
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/812/smcu4.jpg
It strickes me the similarity with Tulcea Airport
nebunul August 18th, 2008, 01:17 PM http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/1399/yarxy0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://www.rhc.ro/forumrhc2/index.php?showforum=14
COTNARI August 18th, 2008, 02:35 PM http://www.rhc.ro/forumrhc2/index.php?showforum=14
omg !!! asta da site bestial
ce poze!
RichKid_01 August 19th, 2008, 10:54 AM Romania needs to make an airport like Sydney's or Frankfurt. That would be awesome. Also Romania needs to create a good tourism brand. At the moment although Romania is doing very well and will catch up to the EU soon, its image overseas is quite tarnished with shit thats sometimes not even true. You've got the media to thank for that. Romania should create one like Australia's in Australia we have a great one its called "Where's the bloody hell are ya". That makes Australia a great country with a wonderful image. Lots of New Zealander's immigrate to Australia because they're government is shit, and its going down hill economically and socially. If your wondering if I like New Zealanders the answer is NO and absolutely NO! I have been to NZ I hate the country, I lived in New Zealand for 10 years, and believe me its going down hill, you have to pay huge tax it will cost for a McDonalds medium combo $11.50 In Australia it costs $4.00 AUD I have been the EU and its cheaper than Australia and NZ combined. The US is cheaper than the EU I think. I love Romania, the people are awesome and the country in 10-15 years time it deserves a big pat on the back from Australia. Australia and Romania has a great relationship, thats one of the reasons why your gonna get Visa Free Access to Australia according to Alexander Downer the former Australian Foreign Minister. But the main reason being is the Romania is a member of the EU. We look forward to welcoming you here and partying with us. New Zealand has shit loads of problems and is performing at the rate of Hungary says the National Party leader of NZ.
nebunul August 20th, 2008, 02:46 PM Business Standard
New airport in southern Bucharest to be built near beltway
The new airport to be built in southern Bucharest could be located near the village of Adunatii Copaceni, some two kilometers from the beltway, according to Transportation Minister Ludovic Orban on Thursday.
He added that work could be completed in two years.
The project to build a new airport close to the capital was recently launched by the Transportation Ministry, but no location had been set.
Bucharest currently has two international airports, both located in the northern part of the city.
05/06/2008
gov has approved new airport :cheers:
http://www.ziare.com/Vom_avea_un_nou_aeroport_in_apropiere_de_Bucuresti-390700.html
Le Clerk August 20th, 2008, 02:53 PM Good news. Let's see how much time it'll take to build and where will it be located.
PS: Good news also that Romania approved 1 million EUR aid for Georgia today. :cheers:
nebunul August 20th, 2008, 03:05 PM ^^ South - close to future Bucharest-Danube canal ?! :nuts:
High Mileager August 20th, 2008, 10:50 PM ..I don't get it !
They don't have money to expand OTP(especially pax/h processing..not to mention about Baneasa )..but they want to start building a brand new one in ...Adunatii Copaceni (apropos supernume pt un aeroport!) :)..
Let's hope that they know what they are doing !
tomis3 August 20th, 2008, 11:09 PM ..I don't get it !
They don't have money to expand OTP(especially pax/h processing..not to mention about Baneasa )..but they want to start building a brand new one in ...Adunatii Copaceni (apropos supernume pt un aeroport!) :)..
Let's hope that they know what they are doing !
I don't get it either....There is so much unused land at Otopeni....the airport now has around 6 million passengers (a pretty small amount) and we are told we need a new one....something smells fishy.
Le Clerk August 20th, 2008, 11:15 PM I understand that Otopeni cannot be extended anymore, land price being one of the reasons. Also, if anything, this airport should be connected to the planned Bucharest-Danube channel and the port over there.
tomis3 August 20th, 2008, 11:18 PM I understand that Otopeni cannot be extended anymore, land price being one of the reasons. Also, if anything, this airport should be connected to the planned Bucharest-Danube channel and the port over there.
Doesn't the airport own the land between the runways?
High Mileager August 20th, 2008, 11:25 PM I don't get it either....There is so much unused land at Otopeni....the airport now has around 6 million passengers (a pretty small amount) and we are told we need a new one....something smells fishy.
That's for sure!.. at OTP is plenty room/space for new terminals,improve existing facilities or runways upgrade..and with wise investments can easily keep up with this "air traffic" boom !
Heathrow has two runways and can handle over 60 mil pax..
OTP needs better/expanded terminals and Bucharest air traffic will be just fine!
Waste of money !
Also, if anything, this airport should be connected to the planned Bucharest-Danube channel and the port over there.
What has the airport to do with the Danube-Buc Canal? Are they going to transfer cargo from ships to planes?!(even so , that's what the trucks are for)
Rhemaxos August 21st, 2008, 07:10 AM Otopeni shall expand for sure in the coming years and it doesn't need any public subsidies for that.
Anyway, the two runaways are sufficient to accomodate the traffic and the extension only concers new terminals, motorway and railway connections, etc.
Le Clerk August 21st, 2008, 10:40 AM I wonder whether the current main buildings for the Otopeni aiport can further sustain expansion of the traffic as a consequence of new terminals etc. Can they be expanded or transsformed to better suit double the current traffic? I think they are already crowded and very small to call Otopeni a European airport.
nebunul August 21st, 2008, 10:50 AM What has the airport to do with the Danube-Buc Canal? Are they going to transfer cargo from ships to planes?!(even so , that's what the trucks are for)
Just a guess ... IMO we need to develop alternative transport routes/means. Europe motorways will clog up soon. The more alternatives the better … also for potential investors ... and consumers. So imagine avoiding/supplying Bucharest (RO) ... cargo to south airport and via Danube towards Europe and/or vice-versa
BTW UK (and others) is looking to negotiate new energy supplies (demand is getting higher; supply getting lower) with potentially Russia :nuts: or Middle East. Just imagine a big LNG deposit (being planned AFAIK) in Constanta (US base) - motorways, waterways and airways ...to EU. BTW I am a big fan of EU corridor VII ... that's IMO, at this moment in time, Romania's biggest strategic asset :cheers:
see http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1291
edit: LNG ...found it ^^ http://www.nineoclock.ro/index.php?page=detalii&categorie=business&id=20080516-512598
High Mileager August 29th, 2008, 01:53 PM http://www.gardianul.ro/Noul-aeroport-al-Capitalei-ar-putea-fi-construit-pe-terenul-patronului-%C2%ABBlue-Air%C2%BB-s119566.html
Le Clerk September 1st, 2008, 07:42 PM Business Standard (http://www.standard.ro/articol_58122/baneasa_airport_refuses_new_low_cost_operators_due_to_lack_of_space.html)
02 septembrie 2008 de Senica Micu
Baneasa airport refuses new low cost operators due to lack of space
Aurel Vlaicu International Airport, located in Bucharest’s northern Baneasa area, refuses new low cost operators due to lack of space. The airport will have a new terminal to cope with the increasing demand, but it will be finalized in two-three years. “Air Berlin said it was interested in entering the local market], but we had to postpone this entry, because we do not have the capacity,” the airport’s General Manager, Stefan Mladin, told Business Standard.
According to Mladin, the airport’s capacity is of 900,000 passengers and will increase by over 300 percent after the new terminal is completed.
Baneasa signed a partnership with low-cost operator Blue Air to build the terminal. Mladin said Bucharest needs a new airport because the two existing airports, Baneasa and Otopeni, will not be able to handle air traffic within five years. The Government announced plans to build a new airport in the southern area of the Capital City.
The passenger traffic on Otopeni airport increased by 41 percent in 2007, while the traffic on Baneasa airport increased by 43 percent. Market analysts say that Romania’s airport traffic will increase by 6.9 percent per year during 2008-2014.
Baneasa airport posted €10 million in turnover for the first six months of 2008. Mladin expects turnover worth €20 million for 2008, some 35-40 percent higher year-on-year.
Cosmin September 1st, 2008, 10:20 PM What a pitty.:ohno:
ionutzyankoo September 1st, 2008, 10:48 PM Nu e pacat deloc. Aseara am aterizat de la Viena si in 15 min au mai aterizat inca 3 avioane din Spania, Italia si Germania. A fost ingrozitor la bagaje pe banda aia de tot rahatu de 5 m. Tipa lumea, era infiorator, ca la cozile de pe vremuri...isi faceau cruce austriecii cu care am venit:ohno::ohno:
Sa se mai duca low costurile si pe OTP...sau macar sa faca ceva improvments la BBU ca acum e dezastru in gara aia...
Cosmin September 1st, 2008, 10:53 PM Adevarul e ca ma asteptam ca Air Berlin sa aleaga OTP.:(
High Mileager September 5th, 2008, 11:11 PM ..some good signs:)
..de pe site-ul http://www.baneasa-airport.ro
12.08.2008 ANUNT
Pe Aeroportul International Bucuresti Baneasa-Aurel Vlaicu se afla in derulare programul de reparatie capitala a suprafetelor de miscare, actiune obligatorie in vederea asigurarii conditiilor de siguranta impuse de reglementarile specifice transportului aerian.
In acest scop, in perioada 29 septembrie-12 octombrie 2008, Aeroportul International Bucuresti Baneasa-Aurel Vlaicu va fi inchis temporar transportului aerian public.
Pe perioada mentionata, toate operatiunile de transport aerian public programate sa se desfasoare pe acest aeroport, vor putea fi preluate de Aeroportul International Henri Coanda-Bucuresti.
AndreiASM September 6th, 2008, 10:05 AM This is Satu Mare airport from "inside" (from the platrform)
http://www.satu-mare.ro/images/aeroport/Turn.jpg
And from the front:
http://www.satu-mare.ro/images/aeroport/Fatada.jpg
Although it has the longest runway from this part of the country, it is used far from its potential.
High Mileager September 6th, 2008, 10:34 AM Friendly invitation to visit..
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=616060
Are there any new projects (ugrades) going on at Satu Mare airport? + some elevated pics of the runway
..something like this one from Arad..
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/6392/aradaeropme6.jpg
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/9359/aradairportse5.jpg
or this one from Kogalniceanu
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/4400/mkrunwaykt9.jpg
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/8506/mkaerial.jpg
AndreiASM September 7th, 2008, 01:36 PM Unfortunatelly, there are only plans for Satu Mare airport. Several western companies wanted to operate weekly flights, but it seems they gave up. Some plans included restoring the runway and making it longer (3500 m from current 2500 m). Also, they intended to extend the platform and terminal, but it seems these were nothing but plans (probably they never wanted to do anything). Even so, it can handle heavier traffic than Baia mare, Oradea or Targu Mures airports, which are smaller.
High Mileager September 7th, 2008, 04:54 PM I have found(onRS) some elevated pics of LRSM..not the best quality though.
Indeed the runway is cool,..but all other facilities are lacking or are poor..
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3700/satumareairportcm9.jpg
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/6404/smairportlj1.jpg
joce23 September 9th, 2008, 12:26 PM Investors interested in International Airport of Arad
Several private companies connected with the activity of airports are interested to invest in the international airport in Arad, western Romania, the airports manager Dan Balacel said on Sept. 5.
He added he held talks on this issue with officials from several companies in the field, and some arrangements are in sight.
The idea was voiced at a meeting of the Association of Airports in Romania (AAR), held Sept 4 and 5, in Cluj-Napoca.
Approached were a series of problems linked to the development strategy for civil aviation at national level, to safety on civil airports, to air traffic. At the event, Arad was represented by Vice-President of the County Council Iosif Matula, and manager of Arad airport Dan Balacel.
Matula underscored the need of building a new airport in Arad, meeting European standards.
Attending the meeting in Cluj-Napoca were officials from the Ministry of Transport, heads of county councils in charge of airport activity, officials of the Organization of the International Council for Airports in Europe, officials from the Civil Aeronautical Authority in Romania, from the Romanian Administration of Air Traffic Services, general managers of the airports in Romania, officials from companies carrying out activities connected to those in airports, from the National Customs Authority, from the Border Police, the Romanian Intelligence Service, the Federation of Airport Unions in Romania.
Association of Airports in Romania was set up in 1999, with Arad among its founding members.
The association brings together airports in Romania, associated members with connected activities.
... http://www.financiarul.ro/2008/09/09/investors-interested-in-international-airport-of-arad/
nebunul September 9th, 2008, 01:00 PM http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2238/aerlv5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
:nuts::bash: http://www.financiarul.com/articol_12595/modernizarea-aeroportului-din-iasi-este-blocata-de-rechinii-imobiliari.html
Cosmin September 9th, 2008, 06:47 PM Hai ca am auzit mai toate cifrele cu privire la suprafata aeroportului. Incep sa ma satur de articolele astea. Sa-l faca, sa fie mai mare decat Otopeniul si gata!:bash:
Le Clerk September 9th, 2008, 06:47 PM ZIUA - SOCIAL - marti, 9 septembrie 2008
Aeroport la Adunatii Copaceni
Decizia ca noul aeroport al municipiului Bucuresti sa fie construit in apropierea localitatii Adunatii Copaceni este luata in proportie de 80-90%, iar studiul de fezabilitate aferent proiectului, intocmit de catre un institut de specialitate din Eindhoven (Olanda), urmeaza sa fie definitivat in urmatoarele doua-trei saptamani, a declarat primarul comunei, Ion Tache.
"Urmeaza ca in consiliul local sa fie luate si deciziile de expropriere a terenurilor pe care va fi amenajat aeroportul, astfel incat procedurile sa fie incheiate pana in iunie-iulie 2009", a spus primarul din Adunatii Copaceni, informeaza Mediafax. El a precizat ca subiectul a fost discutat, ieri, si cu premierul Calin Popescu Tariceanu, aflat in vizita in judetul Giurgiu.
Aeroportul va fi amenajat pe o suprafata totala de 3.400 ha, aflat in prezent in proprietatea a doua firme, fiecare cu cate 300-400 ha cumparate in anii anteriori, si a mai multor persoane fizice. Preturile pentru un metru patrat de teren variaza intre 2-5 euro si 30-40 euro, in functie de zona, a mai spus primarul.
Premierul Calin Popescu-Tariceanu a declarat, tot ieri, ca nu i-a confirmat primarului din comuna Adunatii Copaceni, Ion Tache, ca locatia noului aeroport care se va construi in sudul Capitalei va fi in aceasta localitate. "Nu i-am confirmat nimic. Nu e o decizie pe care sa o iau asa, la inspiratie, trebuie facut un studiu de fezabilitate de specialitate, cu diferite variante dintre care o sa alegem varianta optima", a afirmat seful Guvernului, precizeaza Agerpres. (C.P.)
Articol disponibil la adresa http://www.ziua.net/display.php?id=242464&data=2008-09-09
tomis3 September 9th, 2008, 06:49 PM I just hope they don't name it "Adunatii International." Btw...does anyone know where the hell all these goofy names come from? What kind of a name is Adunatii Copaceni? What does that even mean? Anyone?
Le Clerk September 9th, 2008, 06:55 PM There are other "famous" names in the world:
Weed, CALIFORNIA
Fucking, Austria
Condom Gers, FRANTA
Assawoman, Virginia
:lol:
High Mileager September 9th, 2008, 09:18 PM :):)..you can mention even Otopeni..which makes every Italian women think twice before pronouncing it but makes them "feel lucky" at the same time ..
otto peni (inseamna opt pul*, in italiana):cheers:
Cosmin September 9th, 2008, 09:27 PM Yes, must be funny landing at Otopeni for Alitalia pilots.:D Btw, Zurich - Kloten airport has a similar "problem" as in Dutch, "kloten" means balls.:lol:
tomis3 September 9th, 2008, 09:39 PM Yes, must be funny landing at Otopeni for Alitalia pilots.:D Btw, Zurich - Kloten airport has a similar "problem" as in Dutch, "kloten" means balls.:lol:
It's called Henri Coanda now...you guys must be part of that club that still quotes prices in old lei..."just bought some bread...cost me 30 million lei"
High Mileager September 9th, 2008, 09:50 PM :).. Why don't they change the code from OTP into HCB or HCI than?
..you are right about the lei thing though:)
..following that path
Maybe we should come up with some new proposals for Adunatii Copaceni International..I mean ..which personality name?
..I've heard something about Ion Iliescu International Airport..inspiration from Houston..
tomis3 September 9th, 2008, 10:00 PM :).. Why don't they change the code from OTP into HCB or HCI than?
..you are right about the lei thing though:)
..following that path
Maybe we should come up with some new proposals for Adunatii Copaceni International..I mean ..which personality name?
..I've heard something about Ion Iliescu International Airport..inspiration from Houston..
No need to change the code...O'Hare in Chicago still uses the KORD code from back when it was called Orchard Place Airport.
Cosmin September 9th, 2008, 10:07 PM It's called Henri Coanda now...you guys must be part of that club that still quotes prices in old lei..."just bought some bread...cost me 30 million lei"
I was talking mainly about ATC communications. I'm pretty sure that pilots and controllers still use "Otopeni tower", "Otopeni ground" etc. when communicating.;) Also, Charles De Gaulle airport in Paris, being located in Roissy, is still refered to as Roissy or Roissy-CDG sometimes. Also you have Roissybus, Roissypole etc.
And no, I actually hate people quoting prices in ROL instead of RON. I call them bosorogi/bosoroage or mamaie/tataie, which usually pisses them off and next time they quote the price in RON.:D I haven't heard anybody going that far back when the a bread was several million Lei though.:nuts:
tomis3 September 9th, 2008, 10:10 PM I was talking mainly about ATC communications. I'm pretty sure that pilots and controllers still use "Otopeni tower", "Otopeni ground" etc. when communicating.;) Also, Charles De Gaulle airport in Paris, being located in Roissy, is still refered to as Roissy or Roissy-CDG sometimes. Also you have Roissybus, Roissypole etc.
And no, I actually hate people quoting prices in ROL instead of RON. I call them bosorogi/bosoroage or mamaie/tataie, which usually pisses them off and next time they quote the price in RON.:D
I still see people in the press do it...I think I even saw Ziarul Financiar do it a couple of week ago. Do people in Romania still call J. Lo Jennifer Lopez or P Diddy Puff Daddy?
Cosmin September 9th, 2008, 10:12 PM Wait till we enter Eurozone. Then we'll have some "fun".:naughty:
tomis3 September 9th, 2008, 10:14 PM Wait till we enter Eurozone. Then we'll have some "fun".:naughty:
Milk will cost something like "12 million eurolei per liter"
Cosmin September 9th, 2008, 10:19 PM :rofl:
Fallen September 10th, 2008, 08:16 AM "Eurolei" e mai ok, dar mie mi-e groaza de "ieuroi", si presupun ca o sa fie f multi care o sa il numeasca asa...
Robi_damian September 18th, 2008, 07:50 PM http://www.realitatea.net/zborurile-low-cost-vor-ateriza-la-otopeni--iar-aeroportul-din-baneasa-ar-putea-fi-inchis-pe-viitor--anunta-tariceanu_349917.html
Baneasa might get shut down in the near future...
Cosmin September 18th, 2008, 08:02 PM Dupa ce a sfatuit romanii sa cumpere case in SUA (de parca Fanel si Tanta au bani de asa ceva, iar cei care au asteptau semnalul premierului) Motocicleanu loveste din nou:
"Nu există o intenţie conturată de īnchidere a aeroportului din Băneasa, dar nu poate exista un aeroport īn mijlocul oraşului. Este o consecinţă a dezvoltării oraşului", a concluzionat primul-ministru.
Trei litere, bre... LCY (si asta doar la prima strigare).
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1751/1237294ro3.jpg
In loc sa aiba grija sa nu se construiasca aiurea in jurul aeroportului si sa modernizeze/extinda aeroportul in sine, au facut ce fac de 19 ani incoace...http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/6793/jerkofflb3.gif
Le Clerk September 18th, 2008, 09:18 PM Hahaha, good one. You should hack the Gov's webpage and put the icon there. :D
BTW: Where can I get it from?
PS: I am off to buying 3 houses in Florida, since the PM said so.:runaway:
Cosmin September 18th, 2008, 09:24 PM Well, I know it from some other forum, so I just googled "jerk off emoticon" and found it.:nuts: I uploaded it on ImageShack, so just copy the link when you need it.:naughty:
http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/6793/jerkofflb3.gif
Don't buy houses in Florida with all the mosquitoes and old people.:ohno:
Le Clerk September 18th, 2008, 09:34 PM OK, thanks. I will use the emoticon, make no mistake. :D
High Mileager September 18th, 2008, 09:38 PM ..Tariceanu sa se caute prin buzunare si sa faca mai repede metroul spre Baneasa si Otopeni..Daca tacea filozof ramanea !
E usor de demolat..mult mai greu de construit..Ce idiot!
Bine ca se apropie alegerile ..Sper sa zboare !
tomis3 September 18th, 2008, 09:50 PM Tariceanu are dreptate...Aeroportul Baneasa trebuie daramat. E mic (si nu se poate extinde) si urat ca dracu. E o adevarata rusine pt Bucuresti si Romania. Terenul e intr-o zona foarte buna si cred ca pot obtine bani frumosi pe el. Dupa ce-l vinzi, te apuci sa extinzi H. Coanda (acolo e spatiu...mult chiar nefolosit) si daca mai e nevoie, mai faci unul in alta parte. Dar cu o extindere bine gandita, Coanda cred ca poate servi 15-20 mil. pasageri/an si cred ca o asemenea capacitate e suficienta pt urmatorii 10-15 ani.
Cosmin September 18th, 2008, 09:57 PM ^^In principiu sunt de acord cu tine. Eu faceam referire doar la aberatia ca nu poate exista aeroport in oras si la faptul ca din cauza lipsei de viziune si de interes, Baneasa e in halul in care e, in loc ca acum sa aiba si o zona de securitate in jur si sa arate si modern.
Nu uita si ca socotelile tale, chiar daca corecte, depind de ce-i duce capul sa faca cu terenul ala si banii scosi de pe urma lui. Eu am indoieli serioase ca banii ar fi investiti cu cap in OTP si un al doilea aeroport.:ohno:
Baneasa, in halul in care e acum n-are scapare.
tomis3 September 18th, 2008, 10:21 PM ^^In principiu sunt de acord cu tine. Eu faceam referire doar la aberatia ca nu poate exista aeroport in oras si la faptul ca din cauza lipsei de viziune si de interes, Baneasa e in halul in care e, in loc ca acum sa aiba si o zona de securitate in jur si sa arate si modern.
Nu uita si ca socotelile tale, chiar daca corecte, depind de ce-i duce capul sa faca cu terenul ala si banii scosi de pe urma lui. Eu am indoieli serioase ca banii ar fi investiti cu cap in OTP si un al doilea aeroport.:ohno:
Baneasa, in halul in care e acum n-are scapare.
Baneasa, ca sa arate modern tot trebuie daramat si reconstruit. Dar tinand cont de lipsa de spatiu si de valoarea terenului nu cred ca are rost un asemenea proiect.
Stiu ca exista aeroporturi in orase, dar tre sa recunosti ca sunt putine. E ala din Londra si mai e unul in Berlin (care o sa fie daramat in curand). Mai stii de altele in Europe? Eu nu.
Cosmin September 18th, 2008, 10:40 PM In Europa, in aceeasi situatie cu City, Baneasa si Tempelhof, adica sa fie inconjurate de cladiri pe toate partile nu mai stiu. Sunt unele destul de mari insa foarte aproape de oras, in suburbii, care sunt inconjurate de cladiri, prin Spania, Franta, Elvetia s.a.
High Mileager September 18th, 2008, 10:43 PM In alte orase mari europene nu stiu..dar in orase mai mici da.
In Pisa,de exemplu iesi pe usa aeroportului si poti merge pe jos pana-n centru..sunt deja trotuare de la aeroport.Foarte convenabil plasat .
Sunt sigur ca si terenul ala ar fi destul de scump.
..dar imi vin in minte altele..La Guardia,NyC si San Jose
from Wiki..
LaGuardia is popular due to its central location and proximity to Manhattan. In spite of the airport's small size, wide-body aircraft once visited regularly; the McDonnell Douglas DC-10 and Lockheed L-1011 were even specifically designed for use at LaGuardia. From 2000-2005 Delta operated the 767-400ER with 285 seats. Today, there are no scheduled widebody flights, though occasionally Delta rotates a Boeing 767-300 in for one of its many Atlanta flights. The airport serves as a hub for Delta Air Lines and as a focus city for American Airlines and US Airways, and their regional affiliates.
Norman Y. Mineta San José International Airport[1] (IATA: SJC, ICAO: KSJC, FAA LID: SJC) is a city-owned public-use airport serving the city of San José[4] in Santa Clara County, California, United States. It is located two nautical miles (4 km) northwest of Downtown San Jose[2][5], near the intersections of three major freeways, U.S. Route 101, Interstate 880, and State Route 87.
..deci 4 km de centru..si are un trafic de vreo 10-11 mil pax
Mie mi se pare ca merita "luptat" pentru pastrarea BBU-ului acolo unde e..S-a vazut in perioada summit-ului Nato ce avantaj poate fi .+nu am incredere ca tranzactia cu terenul aeroportului va fi administrata profesional si fara tertipuri de doi bani.
Robi_damian September 19th, 2008, 08:33 AM In general insa, tendinta e de renuntare la aeroporturile urbane. Un alt exemplu de aeroport in inima orasului este cel din Lisabona...
Tempelhof va fi inchis, dar si al doilea aeroport al Berlinului, Tegel, e tot in oras. Doar Schonefeld va ramane deschis pe termen lung, urmand a fi extins...
Ro_land September 19th, 2008, 08:50 AM In State cred ca e o moda sa aiba aeroporturi in oras. De fapt ele au fost inghitite de orase, la inceput fiind coinstruite la marginea acestora.
Vedeti ditamai aeroportul din Las Vegas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarran_International_Airport) care ofera o priveliste superba asupra cazinourilor iluminate multicolor la aterizarile facute noaptea...
alecu26 September 19th, 2008, 11:35 AM In State cred ca e o moda sa aiba aeroporturi in oras. De fapt ele au fost inghitite de orase, la inceput fiind coinstruite la marginea acestora.
Vedeti ditamai aeroportul din Las Vegas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarran_International_Airport) care ofera o priveliste superba asupra cazinourilor iluminate multicolor la aterizarile facute noaptea...
mai bine sa faca autostrada sau o alta legatura pana la Otopeni...asa nu mai pleci cu cate 1-2 ore inainte de check in ca sa fi sigur ca ajungi la aeroport.
Cosmin September 19th, 2008, 11:40 AM A new metro line (M7) is the best solution for reaching the airport.:yes:
luci203 September 19th, 2008, 12:26 PM Daca voi va imaginati ca http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/6793/jerkofflb3.gif de alesi ai neamului o sa fucka un aeroport nou vreodata in Bucuresti atunci intradevar ne meritam tara in care traim, cu varf si indesat. :poke:
Astia nu sunt in stare sa construiasca o statie de autobuz. :wallbash:
Au lasat Zoo Baneasa in paragina ca sa-l inchida, acum Aeroportul Baneasa tot asa, numa' ca sa-si "traga" smecherii vile acolo. :nono:
P.S.
Eu nu vreau case in Florida, ma multumesc cu un apartament pe Fifth Avenue :horse:
Robi_damian September 19th, 2008, 05:15 PM A new metro line (M7) is the best solution for reaching the airport.:yes:
Rail is faster and cheaper. The connection to Otopeni for example is long overdue, even though comparatevely cheap and it requires just 2-3 km of new line and 3 Desiros and it's done!
Cosmin September 19th, 2008, 05:50 PM First of all, the metro is rail too.:D Second, a train connection between Gara de Nord and Henri Coanda, the way Orban sees it is a poor investment. Yes, it's cheaper than making the metro, but it's a poor investment. This has been discussed over and over again here, so I'll try to be short.
-a train only serves points A and B; a metro line also serves other stations along the way, so I don't need to go to Gara de Nord and from there catch the train to OTP
-trains, especially with our existing infrastructure would have low frequencies, whereas a metro train could have much lower frequencies
-a train would travel above ground, thus be subject to rain, snow, and high temperatures, while underground, a metro train would avoid all these
I'm for having a train, but only if we also get a metro line and if that train is part of a RER-like network (see TER), otherwise it would be THE REAL wast of money.
Robi_damian September 20th, 2008, 04:40 PM First of all, the metro is rail too.:D Second, a train connection between Gara de Nord and Henri Coanda, the way Orban sees it is a poor investment. Yes, it's cheaper than making the metro, but it's a poor investment. This has been discussed over and over again here, so I'll try to be short.
-a train only serves points A and B; a metro line also serves other stations along the way, so I don't need to go to Gara de Nord and from there catch the train to OTP
-trains, especially with our existing infrastructure would have low frequencies, whereas a metro train could have much lower frequencies
-a train would travel above ground, thus be subject to rain, snow, and high temperatures, while underground, a metro train would avoid all these
I'm for having a train, but only if we also get a metro line and if that train is part of a RER-like network (see TER), otherwise it would be THE REAL wast of money.
Yes, but with a bit of determination we can have rail acces by 2010. Metro is unlikely before 2016 the earliest (given current speed maybe this is even optimistic). And any metro would likely not be underground for the entire length of the route. It's completely uneconomical to build underground metro lines outside densely populated areas. No one has completely undeground metro acces outside cities proper, not for any serious length.
Also, most cities are chosing rail over metro in linking their main airports. Even Heathrow, which had metro since 1977, invested in surface rail as a fast connection to the main rail station, and from there to all of England.
Cosmin September 20th, 2008, 06:17 PM I've answered here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=25571384#post25571384).:cheers:
Bytson September 24th, 2008, 08:15 PM Some pictures with a Antonov 124 at the Bacau Airport.
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/2560/a1bv1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/3127/a2bf8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Images of catalinb... (http://www.panoramio.com/user/1949054) from www.panoramio.com
Cosmin September 24th, 2008, 10:36 PM Wow! Nice discovery, man. Thanks!:cheers:
nebunul September 26th, 2008, 05:02 PM Aeroportul din Viena vrea să participe la licitaţia pentru modernizarea Aeroportului din Iaşi
IAŞI / 17:00, 26.09.2008
Aeroportul din Viena este interesat să participe la licitaţia pentru modernizarea Aeroportului din Iaşi, a declarat, vineri, la Iaşi, ambasadorul Austriei la Bucureşti, Martin Eichtinger, īn cadrul unei īntālniri cu autorităţile locale şi judeţene.
"Sunt pentru prima dată la Iaşi. Mă bucur că există o cursă aeriană directă de la Iaşi la Viena, pentru că aici este potenţial turistic mare, iar de la Iaşi se poate pleca spre mănăstirile din nordul Moldovei sau spre Deltă. Īn Rădăuţi şi Suceava sunt multe investiţii austriece, īnsă la Iaşi sunt doar bănci cu capital austriac", a declarat presei ambasadorul Austriei.
El a mai spus că un mare investitor austriac īn domeniul metalurgic va veni īn Romānia, īnsă nu la Iaşi, pentru că "este necesară deschiderea la un port la Marea Neagră". :banana::banana::banana:
Martin Eichtinger s-a īntālnit vineri la Iaşi cu preşedintele Consiliului Judeţean, Constantin Simirad şi cu prefectul judeţului Marius Bodea.
"Īn cursul discuţiilor, ambasadorul Austriei a menţionat că Aeroportul din Viena ar vrea să participe la licitaţia care se va face pentru aeroportul ieşean", a afirmat preşedintele CJ Iaşi, Constantin Simirad, care a adăugat că interesul partenerilor străini pentru aeroportul ieşean este benefic.
Aeroportul din Iaşi urmează a fi modernizat, investiţia preconizată ridicāndu-se la aproximativ 170 milioane de euro.
Guvernul a alocat deja prima tranşă din fonduri, adică aproximativ 10 milioane de euro pentru demararea lucrărilor, īnsă lucrurile trenează din cauza unor litigii apărute īntre CJ şi diverse instituţii sau firme pentru terenurile din zonă.
www.mediafax.ro
Le Clerk September 26th, 2008, 05:06 PM I really hope for Iasi that Vienna aiport will manage to achieve that. Keep my fingers crossed for that. :cheers:
And so Austria's ambassador said that VA is coming to Romania!?! :eek::banana:
Le Clerk September 26th, 2008, 05:11 PM Aeroportul din Viena vrea să participe la licitaţia pentru modernizarea Aeroportului din Iaşi
IAŞI / 17:00, 26.09.2008
Aeroportul din Viena este interesat să participe la licitaţia pentru modernizarea Aeroportului din Iaşi, a declarat, vineri, la Iaşi, ambasadorul Austriei la Bucureşti, Martin Eichtinger, īn cadrul unei īntālniri cu autorităţile locale şi judeţene.
"Sunt pentru prima dată la Iaşi. Mă bucur că există o cursă aeriană directă de la Iaşi la Viena, pentru că aici este potenţial turistic mare, iar de la Iaşi se poate pleca spre mănăstirile din nordul Moldovei sau spre Deltă. Īn Rădăuţi şi Suceava sunt multe investiţii austriece, īnsă la Iaşi sunt doar bănci cu capital austriac", a declarat presei ambasadorul Austriei.
El a mai spus că un mare investitor austriac īn domeniul metalurgic va veni īn Romānia, īnsă nu la Iaşi, pentru că "este necesară deschiderea la un port la Marea Neagră". :banana::banana::banana:
Martin Eichtinger s-a īntālnit vineri la Iaşi cu preşedintele Consiliului Judeţean, Constantin Simirad şi cu prefectul judeţului Marius Bodea.
"Īn cursul discuţiilor, ambasadorul Austriei a menţionat că Aeroportul din Viena ar vrea să participe la licitaţia care se va face pentru aeroportul ieşean", a afirmat preşedintele CJ Iaşi, Constantin Simirad, care a adăugat că interesul partenerilor străini pentru aeroportul ieşean este benefic.
Aeroportul din Iaşi urmează a fi modernizat, investiţia preconizată ridicāndu-se la aproximativ 170 milioane de euro.
Guvernul a alocat deja prima tranşă din fonduri, adică aproximativ 10 milioane de euro pentru demararea lucrărilor, īnsă lucrurile trenează din cauza unor litigii apărute īntre CJ şi diverse instituţii sau firme pentru terenurile din zonă.
www.mediafax.ro
^^
MEDIAFAX (http://www.mediafax.ro/engleza/vienna-airport-mulls-bidding-for-the-ne-romanian-iasi-airport-upgrade.html?6966;3233962)
26/09/2008
Vienna Airport Mulls Bidding For The NE Romanian Iasi Airport Upgrade
The Vienna airport is interested in attending the auction for the upgrade of the northeastern Romanian Iasi Airport, said Austrian ambassador Martin Eichtinger within a meeting with Iasi local and county authorities.
He added a large Austrian metallurgy investor will come to Romania, but not to Iasi, the target being a Black Sea port.:cheers:
Martin Eichtinger met Friday with the president of the Iasi County Council, Constantin Simirad and with county prefect Marius Bodea.
"During talks, the Austrian ambassador mentioned that the Vienna airport would like to join the auction organized for the Iasi airport," said Simirad, adding that the interest shown by foreign partners is a beneficial one.
The Iasi airport is set to undergo upgrades in a project worth an approximate EUR 170 million.
The Romanian Government has already allocated the first round of funding, namely some EUR 10 million for the commencement of works, but the process is stalled because of litigation occurring between the County Council and various institutions or companies over the land in the area.:ohno:
nebunul September 26th, 2008, 05:29 PM I really hope for Iasi that Vienna aiport will manage to achieve that. Keep my fingers crossed for that. :cheers:
And so Austria's ambassador said that VA is coming to Romania!?! :eek::banana:
Lucrari de executie pista decolare - aterizare, cai de rulare, platforma de imbarcare - debarcare avioane, platforma de degivrare avioane si platforma avioane deturnate la Aeroportul International Iasi
Bulevardul Stefan cel Mare si Sfant, nr.69 , Localitatea: Iasi , Cod postal: 700075 , Romania , Punct(e) de contact: Serviciul Achizitii Publice si Contracte , Tel. 0232/235.100 , In atentia: Cristina Oteleanu , Email: achizitii.publice@icc.ro , Fax: 0232/214425, 0232/210336 , Adresa internet (URL): www.icc.ro
I.2) Tipul autoritatii contractante si activitatea principala (activitatile principale)
Autoritate regionala sau locala
Activitate (activitati)
- Servicii generale ale administratiilor publice
Autoritatea contractanta actioneaza in numele altor autoritati contractante
Nu
Sectiunea II.A: OBIECTUL CONTRACTULUI (LUCRARI)
II.1) Denumirea data contractului de catre autoritatea contractanta
Lucrari de executie pista decolare - aterizare, cai de rulare, platforma de imbarcare - debarcare avioane, platforma de degivrare avioane si platforma avioane deturnate la Aeroportul International Iasi
II.2) Tipul de contract si locul executarii lucrarilor
Lucrari
Locul principal sau locul de executare a lucrarilor: Aeroportul International Iasi
II.3) Prezentul anunt implica incheierea unui acord-cadru
Nu
II.4) Descrierea succinta a naturii si domeniului lucrarilor
Lucrari de executie pista decolare - aterizare, cai de rulare, platforma de imbarcare - debarcare avioane, platforma de degivrare avioane si platforma avioane deturnate la Aeroportul International Iasi
Valoarea estimata fara TVA: intre 570,000,000 si 650,000,000 RON
Impartire in loturi
Nu
II.5) Clasificare CPV (vocabularul comun privind achizitiile publice)
45235100-4 - Lucrari de constructii de aeroporturi
II.6) Data prevazuta pentru inceperea procedurilor de atribuire si durata contractului
Data prevazuta pentru inceperea procedurilor de adjudecare: 21.10.2008
Durata: 12 luni incepand de la data adjudecarii contractului
II.7) Contractul intra sub incidenta acordului privind contractele de achizitii publice
Nu
II.8) Informatii suplimentare
Executie lucrari pista decolare-aterizare: lungime 3000 m, latime 45 m, acostamente 2x7,5 ; Cai de rulare: lungime 4031 m, latime 23 m, acostamente 2x7,5 m; Platforma de imbarcare-debarcare avioane: lungime 1005,5 m, latime 213 m, suprafata 214171,5 m2; Sectiunea III: INFORMATII JURIDICE, ECONOMICE, FINANCIARE SI TEHNICE
III.1) Conditii referitoare la contract
III.1.1) Principalele conditii financiare si modalitati de plata si/sau trimitere la dispozitiile relevante
III.2) Conditii de participare
III.2.1) Contracte rezervate
Nu
SECTIUNEA VI: INFORMATII SUPLIMENTARE
VI.1) Contractul se inscrie intr-un proiect/program finantat din fonduri comunitare
Nu
Le Clerk September 26th, 2008, 05:40 PM I really hope for Iasi that Vienna aiport will manage to achieve that. Keep my fingers crossed for that. :cheers:
The Iasi local authorities would better give the contract to Vienna Airport because that will mean that a great deal of Austrian investments will head for Iasi once the Austrian investors know they will have an Austrian gate in Iasi, I really hope the Iasi local authorities think the same. :cheers:
Cosmin September 26th, 2008, 07:21 PM Wanna bet they'll fuck up again? Who needs investments from one of the best run airports in Europe anyway?:nuts:
I hope I'm wrong though.:)
nebunul September 26th, 2008, 07:42 PM ^^ :lol: they fuck it up too often ...
btw http://stirileprotv.ro/bin/front.php?section_id=18&video_section_id=&media_id=60156663
Le Clerk September 27th, 2008, 12:38 AM ZIUA (http://www.ziua.net/display.php?id=243267&data=2008-09-27)
27 septembrie 2008
Otopeni oprit la sol:bash:
Dezvoltarea si modernizarea aeroportului "Henri Coanda" din Bucuresti se amana cu patru ani, din cauza tergiversarii PUZ-ului
Lucrarile de modernizare a Aeroportului International Henri Coanda Bucuresti (AIHCB), incluse in Pro*gra*mul strategic de dezvoltare in perioada 2007-2019, in valoare de 450 de milioane de euro, vor fi amanate cu pana la patru ani, pentru 2019, din cauza nefinalizarii Planului Urbanistic Zonal (PUZ), prevede un proiect de Ordonata de Urgenta elabo*rat de Ministerul Transpor*turilor, prin care se solicita amanarea calendarului investitional. Practic, Aero*portul Otopeni ramane la acelasi stadiu de dezvoltare desi, nu peste multa vreme, va trebui sa preia cursele low-cost si charterele de pe Aeroportul Baneasa, care urmeaza sa fie inchis pentru aceste curse.
Estimarile Ministerului Transporturilor (MT), care nu au luat in calcul preluarea activitatii de pe Baneasa, arata faptul ca traficul pe Otopeni ar putea ajunge in acest an la 5,82 milioane de pasageri, in crestere cu 30% fata de anul trecut. Mai mult, traficul ar urma sa creasca in fiecare an cu 10%, ajungand astfel in 2020 la 18,29 milioane de pasageri. Si termenul necesar exproprierilor a fost decalat cu un an, la 30 iunie 2010, se arata in proiectul de Ordonanta de Urgenta. "Situatia de urgenta consta in necesitatea evitarii aparitiei unor disfunctio*nalitati grave in administrarea activitatii de dezvoltare pe termen lung a AIHCB, care pot determina blocarea dezvoltarii aeroportului", se precizeaza in actul normativ. Autoritatile locale trebuiau sa elibereze PUZ-ul in 1999. Ulterior, acestea au estimat ca PUZ-ul va fi aprobat la sfarsitul anului 2008, la fel si studiile de fezabili*tate, iar pana la 31 decembrie 2010 ar trebui sa fie obtinute toate avizele, acordurile si autorizatiile necesare inceperii lucrarilor, in loc de 31 decembrie 2009. Potrivit noului plan, la sfarsitul lui 2013 trebuie dezvoltata infrastructura de transport rutier, metroul si calea ferata, in vederea asigurarii accesului in zona de est a aeroportului, iar la 31 decembrie 2019 trebuie finalizate lucrarile la un nou terminal de pasageri si la sistemul de cai de rulare, fata de sfarsitul anilor 2011 si respectiv 2015, cand erau termenele initiale.
Premierul Calin Popescu Tariceanu a declarat, recent, ca a cerut Ministerului Transporturilor sa pregateasca o serie de masuri prin care Aeroportul Baneasa sa fie transformat intr-un aeroport care sa deserveasca numai Romaero si zborurile business, reducandu-se, astfel, poluarea fonica de care s-au plans locuitorii din zona. Premierul a dat asigurari ca Aeroportul Otopeni are capa*citatea necesara sa gazduiasca zborurile preluate de pe Baneasa. Ceea ce nu s-a vazut in momentul in care Aeroportul Baneasa a mai fost inchis pentru reparatii la pista si s-au mutat cursele low-cost pe Otopeni. In acel moment calatorii erau rugati sa vina la aeroport cu 4 ore inaintea zborului pentru a avea timpul necesar efectuarii formalitatilor de imbarcare
Cosmin September 27th, 2008, 12:47 AM Daca treaba asta e adevarata am pus-o.:bash: Imi sta mintea in loc ce termene se vehiculeaza pentru proiecte importante care ar fi trebuit terminate deja la ora actuala, si nu ma refer doar la aeroporturi. OTP abia face fata la traficul de acum, imaginati-va cum o sa fie peste cativa ani, mai ales daca se inchide Baneasa.:puke:
Tariceanu e, ca de obicei, o mamaliga ametita.
RichKid_01 September 27th, 2008, 12:59 AM ^^
MEDIAFAX (http://www.mediafax.ro/engleza/vienna-airport-mulls-bidding-for-the-ne-romanian-iasi-airport-upgrade.html?6966;3233962)
26/09/2008
Might have been one of those "Tourettes outbursts":lol: regarding the metallurgy investment coming to Romania, who knows I sure hope Romania gets that Investment
Cosmin September 28th, 2008, 12:22 PM Enjoy these Cat III approaches.:naughty:
Cat III at Heathrow
sPQhyLdWajk
Cat III at Zurich
EgeT-F9-1KI
And the best one, Martinair MD-11 landing at Amsterdam - Schiphol
VKtHO-7oB7E
There are three categories of ILS which support similarly named categories of operation.
Category I - A precision instrument approach and landing with a decision height not lower than 200 feet (61 m) above touchdown zone elevation and with either a visibility not less than 2,625 feet (800 m) or a runway visual range not less than 2,400 feet (730 m), (with touchdown zone and center lightning, RVR 1,800ft). An aircraft equipped with an Enhanced Flight Vision System may, under certain circumstances, continue an approach to CAT II minimums. [14 CFR Part 91.175 amendment 281]
Category II - Category II operation: A precision instrument approach and landing with a decision height lower than 200 feet (61 m) above touchdown zone elevation but not lower than 100 feet (30 m), and a runway visual range not less than 1,200 feet (370 m).
Category III is further subdivided
Category III A - A precision instrument approach and landing with:
a) a decision height lower than 100 feet (30 m) above touchdown zone elevation, or no decision height; and
b) a runway visual range not less than 700 feet (210 m).
Category III B - A precision instrument approach and landing with:
a) a decision height lower than 50 feet (15 m) above touchdown zone elevation, or no decision height; and
b) a runway visual range less than 700 feet (210 m) but not less than 150 feet (46 m).
Category III C - A precision instrument approach and landing with no decision height and no runway visual range limitations. A Category III C system is capable of using an aircraft's autopilot to land the aircraft and can also provide guidance along the runway surface.
And in case you're wondering if this is possible at Henri Coandă...
Runways:
08R-26L: 3500m x 45m
08 R Precision Approach Runway CAT III B
26 L Precision Approach Runway CAT I
08L-26R: 3500m x 45m
08 L Precision Approach Runway CAT III B
26 R Precision Approach Runway CAT I
...it is, but not for Cat III C.:)
luci203 September 28th, 2008, 12:29 PM Some pictures with a Antonov 224 at the Bacau Airport.
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/2560/a1bv1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/3127/a2bf8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Images of catalinb... (http://www.panoramio.com/user/1949054) from www.panoramio.com
That is not Antonov 224, is Antonov 124.
Antonov 224 have 6 engines and a different tail (to put the Buran spacecraft).
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1147/1454329469_a1e434dc22_o_d.jpg
:cheers:
:)
Cosmin September 28th, 2008, 12:49 PM ^^Didn't even noticed he wrote "224". Actually you're both wrong. That is an An-124. true, but the one you posted, luci, is an An-225 (not 224).
The An-224 was the initial designation of the 225, but it was never built.:cheers:
luci203 September 28th, 2008, 01:43 PM ^^Didn't even noticed he wrote "224". Actually you're both wrong. That is an An-124. true, but the one you posted, luci, is an An-225 (not 224).
The An-224 was the initial designation of the 225, but it was never built.:cheers:
At least the plane was corect. :D
(Stiam ca ala e An-124 si ca An-22X arata altfel :tongue4:)
Bytson September 28th, 2008, 02:44 PM ^^Didn't even noticed he wrote "224". Actually you're both wrong. That is an An-124. true, but the one you posted, luci, is an An-225 (not 224).
The An-224 was the initial designation of the 225, but it was never built.:cheers:
Sorry for the mistake, I will edit my post.
CrazySerb September 28th, 2008, 07:16 PM Have there been ny passenger statistics posted for Romania's airports in the first eight months of this year?:)
nebunul September 29th, 2008, 12:30 PM http://www.evz.ro/articole/detalii-articol/822504/Nebunie-pe-Otopeni/
Ops si eu aterizez (wizz) pe OTP chiar in perioada asta :bash: ... da' ma intoc cu BA :) ... "Inspirat" huh?! :bowtie:
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/144/otpjx0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Cosmin September 29th, 2008, 12:46 PM ^^nebunul, in afara de inghesuiala de pe OTP, nu cred ca vei avea probleme cu Wizz. Luton, ce folosesc ei pt. Londra? Oricum e peste Beauvais, care-i o statie de autobuz, ca si Baneasa.:ohno: Iar BA aterizeaza pe LHR, unde daca nu-ti pierd bagajele e ok din cate stiu.:lol:
Taica-meu asteapta de 3 ore pe Beauvais-Tille si cred ca mai asteapta o ora. A avut treaba la Melun si a tinut mortis sa "testeze" Blue Air.:lol: Acolo e ceata, iar aeroportul vad ca la o pista n-are nici macar ILS, iar cea cu ILS nu cred sa fie capabila de mai mult de CAT I, deci... sedere placuta.:lol: Normal ca nu le zice nimeni nimic.
Mai nasol de mine, ca tre' sa-l iau de la Otopeni.:puke:
nebunul September 29th, 2008, 01:05 PM Luton indeed - btw e secundar dar e mult mai mare (+10 mil pasageri) decit Otopeni ... Nu-mi faceam probleme la plecare; ci la intoarcere din OTP (in special in perioada asta). Si de aceea am preferat sa ma intorc cu BA :cheers:
PS :doh: Bafta la Otopeni! Auzi, nu mai bine ii trimiti un mesaj si-l informezi de existenta 783 ?! :lol::cheers:
Cosmin September 29th, 2008, 01:11 PM Edit: vezi PM.:lol:
Cele 5 aeroporturi londoneze au un trafic total de ~140 mil. pasageri.:runaway:
nebunul October 1st, 2008, 12:57 PM Fokker 70 in circle to land at Iasi Airport
t8CFfw8H9TY
Bombardier Q400 take off from Iasi
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nebunul October 2nd, 2008, 04:43 PM Bacau Airport
http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/368/aeroportmareub3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Īn prezent se află īn curs de derulare licitaţia care va desemna viitorul investitor la Aeroportul Internaţional "George Enescu" Bacău. Licitaţia va avea loc pe 12 Iunie 2008 :nuts: şi are īn caietul de sarcini cāteva cerinţe obligatorii, extrem de importante, care vor influenţa decisiv aspectul viitoarei construcţii. Īn investiţiile de 45 milioane Euro ce vor fi realizate de cāştigătorul licitaţiei sunt cuprinse:
- terminal nou pentru pasageri (10 milioane Euro)
- reparaţia capitală şi consolidarea pistei (20 milioane Euro)
- extinderea parcării pentru avioane
- extinderea parcării pentru autoturisme
- echipamente şi utilaje de balizaj de ultimă generaţie
Toate aceste investiţii au ca termen de finalizare sfārşitul anului 2010(30 luni), fără īntreruperea traficului existent.
http://www.dragosbenea.ro/aeroportul-international-bacau.html
tomis3 October 2nd, 2008, 04:45 PM No jetways?
Giuseppe87 October 2nd, 2008, 05:36 PM What would be the capacity for that airport? :?
Bytson October 2nd, 2008, 07:33 PM Bacau Airport
Īn prezent se află īn curs de derulare licitaţia care va desemna viitorul investitor la Aeroportul Internaţional "George Enescu" Bacău. Licitaţia va avea loc pe 12 Iunie 2008 :nuts: .......
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Toate aceste investiţii au ca termen de finalizare sfārşitul anului 2010(30 luni), fără īntreruperea traficului existent.
http://www.dragosbenea.ro/aeroportul-international-bacau.html
Don't know what to say about this investment, but the auction I guess it was referring at the concession of the airport to an investor. From what I have read in the local press, it was Blue Air who earned the auction.:dunno: More info http://www.infobc.ro/2008/07/concesionar-executat-silit-pentru-aeroportul-bacau/ .
nebunul October 3rd, 2008, 10:12 AM ^^ daca nu se misca repede nu va face fata (din pacate) la "concurenta" Iasi-ului care va fi finantat de la bugetul de stat cu ~170 euro. Spuneau "specialistii" (nu mai stiu pe unde este articolul) ca in N-E numai un aeroport va supravietui (profitabil ma refer ... ca de subventionat se tot subventioneaza de la bugetele locale de ani buni ... )
Bytson October 3rd, 2008, 12:54 PM ^^
Referitor la concurenta din partea Iasi-ului, chiar daca Bacaul s-ar misca mai repede fata de Iasi cu modernizarea/extinderea aeroportului, totusi diferenta de capacitate va fi net in favoarea aeroportului Iasi.
Acum ramane de vazut cand vor incepe demarea investitiilor pentru primul dintre cele doua aeroporturi, dupa cum bine stim in N-E tarii lucrurile se fac mai greu. :ohno:
nebunul October 3rd, 2008, 03:47 PM ^^
Referitor la concurenta din partea Iasi-ului, chiar daca Bacaul s-ar misca mai repede fata de Iasi cu modernizarea/extinderea aeroportului, totusi diferenta de capacitate va fi net in favoarea aeroportului Iasi.
Acum ramane de vazut cand vor incepe demarea investitiilor pentru primul dintre cele doua aeroporturi, dupa cum bine stim in N-E tarii lucrurile se fac mai greu. :ohno:
da si nu :) ...
Moldova "īnghite" fondurile mai repede decīt poate aloca UE
www.evenimentul.ro
īn cadrul axei pentru transport, au fost depuse 37 de proiecte, a căror valoare depăşeşte cu 20 la sută fondurile disponibile prioritizarea dosarelor o vor face experţi independenţi, īn funcţie de un anumit punctaj Comitetului Regional pentru Evaluare Strategică şi Corelare (CRESC) īşi pierde rolul de a acorda sau nu acceptul pentru finanţarea unor proiecte
(ASIS) Regulile privind modalitatea de finanţare a proiectelor cu bani de la Uniunea Europeană se schimbă de la o zi la alta. Invocīnd transparenţă īn actele decizionale, Executivul romān a decis să reducă din rolul pe care Comitetul pentru Evaluarea Strategică şi Corelare (CRESC) īl avea īn luarea deciziei privind īmpărţirea fondurilor la nivel regional. "CRESC nu va mai stabili cu da şi nu dacă un proiect primeşte finanţare. Decizia va fi luată de către experţi independenţi, prin stabilirea unor punctaje pentru fiecare proiect. Experţii nu sīnt numiţi de către noi, ci sīnt distribuiţi prin tragere la sorţi", a declarat, la Iaşi, ministrul Dezvoltării şi Lucrărilor Publice şi Locuinţelor, Laszlo Borbely.
Abia un proiect din trei primeşte fonduri
Rolul CRESC era cu atīt mai important cu cīt, la nivelul regiunii de nord-est, au fost depuse proiecte pe infrastructură a căror valoare depăşeşte fondurile alocate de către Uniunea Europeană. Pīnă īn prezent, 37 de dosare au ajuns īn faza de analiză, cu o valoare de 545 milioane de euro. Numai că, īn cadrul axei prioritare 2 - infrastructura de transport, alocarea financiară regională este de numai 470 milioane de euro, pentru perioada 2007 2013, care asigură bani doar pentru 11 proiecte.
La ultimele şedinţe ale CRESC, şefii fiecărui judeţ din regiune a īncercat să obţină sume cīt mai mari. S-a ajuns la dispute aprige, acuzīndu-se presiuni politice, dar şi orgolii personale. "Evaluarea trebuie să fie serioasă, independent de regiuni şi trebuie lăsate orgoliile la o parte. CRESC va avea īn continuare rolul de a face o strategie regională, dar prioritizarea proiectelor o vor face autoritatea centrală, prin evaluatori", a adăugat ministrul Borbely.
Oficialul guvernamental a precizat şi faptul că, īn cīteva zile, vor fi semnate primele două cereri de finanţare, acum fiind īn etapa īn care se fac vizite la faţa locului. Este vorba despre reabilitarea a două drumuri, īn valoare de 18,5 milioane de euro, respectiv 21,4 milioane de euro.
Regiunile ar putea deveni structuri administrative
Reprezentanţii Ministerului Dezvoltării, Lucrărilor Publice şi Locuinţelor (MDLPL) spun că pregătesc un proiect prin care actualele regiuni de dezvoltare să devină structuri administrative. "Īn prezent, regiunile sīnt pur statistice. Romānia trebuie să dea putere administrativă acestor regiuni, ceea ce ar īnsemna şi putere de decizie. Trebuie să ajungem să transferăm puterea de la nivel central, la nivel regional", a declarat ministrul Laszlo Borbely. Oficialul guvernamental a propus şi o soluţie pentru conducerea acestor structuri, care se va putea face prin intermediul unui Consiliu Regional
Cosmin October 3rd, 2008, 04:09 PM Regiunile ar putea deveni structuri administrative
Aleluia!:bash:
High Mileager October 3rd, 2008, 09:18 PM Bacau Airport
Īn prezent se află īn curs de derulare licitaţia care va desemna viitorul investitor la Aeroportul Internaţional "George Enescu" Bacău. Licitaţia va avea loc pe 12 Iunie 2008 :nuts: şi are īn caietul de sarcini cāteva cerinţe obligatorii, extrem de importante, care vor influenţa decisiv aspectul viitoarei construcţii. Īn investiţiile de 45 milioane Euro ce vor fi realizate de cāştigătorul licitaţiei sunt cuprinse:
- terminal nou pentru pasageri (10 milioane Euro)
- reparaţia capitală şi consolidarea pistei (20 milioane Euro)
- extinderea parcării pentru avioane
- extinderea parcării pentru autoturisme
- echipamente şi utilaje de balizaj de ultimă generaţie
Toate aceste investiţii au ca termen de finalizare sfārşitul anului 2010(30 luni), fără īntreruperea traficului existent.
http://www.dragosbenea.ro/aeroportul-international-bacau.html
...Daca tot s-au hotarat sa "intre la cheltuieli"..puteau proiecta si o conectare la reteaua feroviara + peronul aferent..
High Mileager October 6th, 2008, 12:27 AM Inside CND terminal
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1608/cndairportryanairflightij3.jpg
tomis3 October 6th, 2008, 04:26 AM Are those two dudes checking out the babe?
High Mileager October 6th, 2008, 11:37 AM Of course..
Nothing else to do while waiting.
..Unless they were listening to an announcement..j/k.:)
I'll try to post some more when will find some time.:cheers:
still CND
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/550/cndairportryanairflightch6.jpg
Leaving by foot Pisa(PSA) airport..very nice and simple terminal building
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/3426/pisadayvisit001pn9.jpg
At the Tower
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/6843/pisadayvisit025gc2.jpg
High Mileager October 8th, 2008, 08:21 PM ..an interesting airport guide at
http://www.sleepinginairports.net/index.htm
..somehow also funny
You can see some of OTP reviews here
http://www.sleepinginairports.net/list.asp?region=1&country=Romania&city=Bucharest&terminal=International
:cheers:
SeyMan October 25th, 2008, 09:21 PM Aeroporturile din Nisa, Barcelona si Le Bourget (Paris) sunt si ei destul de aproape de centrul oraselor.
joce23 October 26th, 2008, 09:45 AM Aeroportii din Nisa, Barcelona si Le Bourget (paris) sunt si ei destul de aproape e de centru oraselor.
:eek:
Se pare ca s-a bagat deja net la gradinitele din Seimeni. :banana::cheers:
nebunul October 26th, 2008, 12:34 PM Leaving by foot Pisa(PSA) airport..very nice and simple terminal building
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/3426/pisadayvisit001pn9.jpg
Me too :cheers: Really nice 15-20 min walk to the airport :)
BTW I was surprised of Pisa's "night life" ... soooo many students drinking out on Arno riverbank :cheers::cheers::cheers:
toxicduck October 26th, 2008, 01:23 PM :eek:
Se pare ca s-a bagat deja net la gradinitele din Seimeni. :banana::cheers:
Lasa baiatul in pace ca e de-al nostru.
SeyMan October 26th, 2008, 02:34 PM Multumesc toxicduck. Imi cer scuze pentru greselile de exprimare. Am facut o confuzie, am crezut ca aeroport e nume masculin ca in toate celelalte limbi romanice. Promit sa ma ameliorez si sa fiu mai atent inainte sa postez un mesaj. Numai bine!
Le Clerk October 26th, 2008, 02:48 PM :eek:
Se pare ca s-a bagat deja net la gradinitele din Seimeni. :banana::cheers:
^^:lol:
Cred ca e plecat din tara de mic copil si si-a facut educatia intr-o alta limba. De asta face greselile astea.
SeyMan, de unde esti? BTW: Welcome! :cheers:
SeyMan October 26th, 2008, 03:23 PM Sunt din Paris, merci Le Clerk.
Cosmin October 27th, 2008, 12:44 AM ^^Esti din Paris dar stai in com. Seimeni, sat Dunarea?!?:eek:
Cu cat inchiriezi apartamentul din Paris?:rofl:
Welcome on SSC, SeyMan!:cheers:
SeyMan October 27th, 2008, 01:12 AM Cosmin, se vede ca nu cunosti piata imobiliara din Seimeni. Cu banii pe un studio la Paris n-as inchiria nici un grajd la mine in sat. Asta e diferenta intre o tara in recesiune si una in boom economic. Nu, momentan sunt bazat la Paris.
Cosmin October 27th, 2008, 12:30 PM ^^Am zis eu ca cunosc piata din Seimeni? Pana azi nici nu stiam ca exista Seimeni.:nuts: Si nu, asta e diferenta dintre o piata matura si cea din Romania (si tarile din zona). Fa diferenta intre o piata cat de cat stabilizata si rationala cum e cea din Paris si una de tip bubble.
Daca chiar nu iti permiti un grajd intr-un sat cu banii luati pe chiria unui apartament in Paris, inseamna ca lucrurile sunt chiar mai grave decat credeam.:puke:
Ah, si intrebarea legata de apartament era o simpla gluma. M-am mirat ca la locatie nu ai scris Paris, si am presupus ca esti la tine in sat acum. De asta am intrebat cat ceri pe chirie... insinuand ca sunt interesat de a plati chiria, daca e avantajoasa.:lol:
Rhemaxos October 27th, 2008, 01:24 PM Cosmin, se vede ca nu cunosti piata imobiliara din Seimeni. Cu banii pe un studio la Paris n-as inchiria nici un grajd la mine in sat. Asta e diferenta intre o tara in recesiune si una in boom economic. Nu, momentan sunt bazat la Paris.
Am I the only one here who took that as a joke...? :nuts:
Welocome to SSC, by the way...
:cheers:
nebunul October 27th, 2008, 01:28 PM ^^ yep :lol:
joce23 October 27th, 2008, 03:40 PM Multumesc toxicduck. Imi cer scuze pentru greselile de exprimare. Am facut o confuzie, am crezut ca aeroport e nume masculin ca in toate celelalte limbi romanice. Promit sa ma ameliorez si sa fiu mai atent inainte sa postez un mesaj. Numai bine!
Welcome to SSC dobrogean brother ! :) :cheers:
@Rhemaxos: What made you take SeyMan statement as a joke ? :?
nebunul October 27th, 2008, 04:25 PM http://www.parisianhome.com/en/apartment/apartment.php?pk=S03130&start=2
Cosmin October 31st, 2008, 05:31 PM This will probably happen to Baneasa too...
Thank you Tempelhof
An important chapter in the history of German aviation draws to a close
After 80 years of air traffic, 30 October 2008 will see the closure of the Tempelhof Airport. The last charter machine, a Dornier 328 of Cirrus Airlines, will take off at 9.50 pm and will be flying to Mannheim. The pilot of the aircraft will be Lars Jacobs. The last aircrafts to leave the airport will be the Junkers Ju-52 of the Deutsche Lufthansa Berlin-Stiftung and the raisin bomber DC 3 of Air Service Berlin. Both planes will take off from Tempelhof shortly before midnight. The pilot of the Ju 52 is Georg Kohne. The DC 3 will be flown by Steffen Wardin.
The last three flights are the highlight of the final event to mark the closure of Tempelhof Airport to which Berlin Airports is inviting representatives of airlines and personalities from politics and economics. On the last day, the main hall of Tempelhof Airport will be closed for visitors and people collecting air passengers. Passengers who have a valid air ticket for this day will have access to the main hall as usual.
The last flights mark the end of a significant era in German aviation history. At the same time, with the closure of the airport, Berlin Airports is taking a big step towards the realisation of the most important future project of the German metropolitan region: the concentration of the air traffic at the new Capital Airport Berlin Brandenburg International BBI by 2011.
[...]
Closure of Tempelhof the next steps
On 30 October 2008, Berlin Airports will hand over the keys to the future manager of the airport, BIM Berliner Immobilienmanagement GmbH. As part of an invitation to tender, a wholly owned subsidiary of the airport company Facility Management Tempelhof GmbH (FMT), will bid for the further management of the property. FMT employs 38 people.
A further nine firemen of the airport company will continue to work in the fire service control room up until the end of 2008. The airport company has a contract with the BIMA, Bundesanstalt für Immobilienaufgaben (Federal Institute for Property Assignments) in which they have undertaken to hand over the airport in the condition in which they received it from the allies in 1993.
The airline Intersky will fly from Tempelhof to Friedrichshafen for the last time on 25 October 2008 at 8.25 am. On the same day, Brussels Airlines will take off at 6.55 pm and fly to Brussels. With the start of the winter 2008/09 flight schedule on 26 October, both airlines will begin offering flights from Tegel.
Berlin Airports (http://www.berlin-airport.de/EN/DankeTHF/DankeTHF/index.php)
http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/5517/2005luftaufnahmepopur0.jpg
tomis3 October 31st, 2008, 05:45 PM Lets hope so.
Cosmin November 7th, 2008, 10:14 AM O companie chineza vrea sa investeasca in aeroportul din Iasi
Firma chineza Harbour Engineering Company vrea sa investeasca in modernizarea Aeroportului International Iasi, insa nu s-a luat inca o decizie privind un parteneriat public-privat, a declarat Constantin Simirad, presedintele Consiliului Judetean Iasi, sub conducerea caruia se afla aeroportul.
Coform studiului de fezabilitate, proiectul pentru reabilitarea aeroportului prevede o investitie de peste 200 milioane de euro.
"Sperantele mele sunt sa promovam o lege prin care sa obtinem finantare guvernamentala pentru aeroport, in 4 etape", a spus Simirad, citat de NewsIn.
"In cazul in care nu vom reusi acest lucru, ne gandim sa acceptam propunerea firmei chineze, care vrea sa realizeze integral sau partial obiectivul. Am primit si joi o adresa de la Ambasada Chinei in Romania privind intentia firmei chineze de a investi. Deocamdata, vedem ce putem face in plan legislativ", a adaugat primarul.
La inceputul anului 2008, o delegatie chineza, formata din oameni de afaceri si oficiali ai provinciei Jilin, au vizitat Iasiul si au discutat cu autoritatile locale despre potentialul de dezvoltare a capitalei Moldovei si posibile parteneriate privind dezvoltarea unor proiecte de investitii.
La vremea respectiva, chinezii s-au declarat interesati in special de infrastructura de transport si industria farmaceutica.
Harbour Engineering Company Ltd. este o divizie a grupului de firme CCCC, infiintata in 2005 dupa fuziunea intre China Harbour Engineering Company Group si China Road and Bridge Corporation.
Compania este detinuta de statul chinez si a avut, in 2007, potrivit site-ului oficial, contracte internationale in valoare totala de 2 miliarde de dolari. Harbour Engineering activeaza in peste 20 de tari.
DailyBusiness (http://www.dailybusiness.ro/stiri-turism/o-companie-chineza-vrea-sa-investeasca-in-aeroportul-din-iasi-18999)
nebunul November 7th, 2008, 12:09 PM German company to invest in Iasi airport :D :crazy:
Ieri, conducerea CJ s-a intalnit cu reprezentantul firmei germane Kirchhoff, Michael Zillgens, pentru a discuta posibilitatile de a investi in modernizarea aeroportului Iasi. Acesta a prezentat proiectele pe care firma sa le-a finalizat si pe cele in curs de derulare si a aratat ce urmareste printr-o asemenea investitie si in cat timp o poate realiza. "Firma Kirchhoff detine o experienta vasta, se afla in parteneriat si cu diferite firme iesene si are in atentie si drumurile judetene. Dorim sa atragem un numar cat mai mare de participanti la licitatia care se va organiza pentru aeroport pentru ca, astfel, aratam valoarea� proiectului", a spus Constantin Adascalitei, vicepresedinte al CJ.
http://www.iasiplus.ro/news/5/7628/Pe+scurt.html
Cosmin November 7th, 2008, 12:11 PM The more the merrier.:lol:
tomis3 November 7th, 2008, 04:37 PM What happened to the Austrians that wanted to do the same?
nebunul November 7th, 2008, 04:55 PM so far they're all interested ...
Aeroportul are drum, nu şi pistă :nuts: :lol: :bash:
Serviciul Public de Administrare a Drumurilor Judeţene (SPADJ) a asfaltat 1,7 kilometri din şoseaua care duce spre Aeroport. "Lucrările sīnt foarte aproape de finalizare. Mai trebuie trasate marcajele, iar miercuri se va face recepţia drumului", ne-a spus dl Romeo Stoica, directorul SPADJ. Cheltuielile cu asfaltarea au fost de 430.000 de lei, mai mici decīt bugetul alocat de Consiliul Judeţean (600.000 de lei).
Dar, dacă spre Aeroport este drum de acces, licitaţia pentru executarea pistei de 3 kilometri nu poate să īnceapă, din cauză că Guvernul nu a dat īncă hotărīrea referitoare la un schimb de terenuri īntre CJ şi Staţiunea de Cercetări Dancu. Un timp, şefii judeţului au avut promisiuni ferme de la guvernanţi că hotărīrea va fi emisă, īnsă acesta īntīrzie.
Īn schimb, se pot executa alte lucrări. Astăzi, la CJ va avea loc o licitaţie privind desemnarea firmelor care se vor ocupa de demolarea clădirilor care au aparţinut SRI şi Centrului Meteorologic Regional Moldova.
www.evenimentul.ro
High Mileager November 8th, 2008, 11:56 AM Lucrarile de modernizare a Aeroportului International Henri Coanda-Otopeni, incluse in Planul strategic de dezvoltare a infrastructurii pentru 2007-2019, o investitie de 450 mil. euro, au fost amanate cu pana la patru ani, pentru 2019, din cauza nefinalizarii Planului Urbanistic Zonal (PUZ). Amanarea lucrarilor a fost decisa in sedinta de guvern, prin ordonanta de urgenta. Totodata, termenul necesar exproprierilor a fost decalat cu un an, la 30 iunie 2010. Terenurile se afla in intravilanul orasului Otopeni si extravilanul comunei Tunari, urmand ca aproximativ 200 de persoane sa fie expropriate cu despagubiri. In ordonanta se arata ca "situatia de urgenta consta in iminenta expirarii termenului alocat etapei I a Programului Strategic de dezvoltare pe termen lung a Aeroportului International Henri Coanda-Bucuresti si necesitatea asigurarii in avans a capacitatilor aeroportuare pentru mentinerea gradului de siguranta si securitate in conditiile cresterii traficului aerian".
sursa:Mediafax
High Mileager November 8th, 2008, 12:12 PM 07 Noiembrie 2008, ora 16:58
Teodor Melescanu, ministrul Apararii, a declarat, vineri, ca este "extrem de multumit" de stadiul realizarii Centrului de Excelenta NATO.
Oficialul roman a adaugat ca dupa finalizarea acestui proiect, Ministerul Apararii ar putea moderniza Aeroportul International Oradea, informeaza NewsIn.
"Pentru Centrul NATO este necesar ca la Oradea sa functioneze un aeroport international, capabil sa primeasca atat curse regulate, cat si zboruri speciale", a declarat Melescanu.
Ministrul Apararii a adaugat ca ministerul ar putea sa contribuie si cu amenajarea unor facilitati aeroportuare.
Ministrul Apararii a spus ca este "extrem de multumit" de stadiul realizarii Centrului de Excelenta NATO de pe amplasamentul fostei unitati de tancuri si ca acest obiectiv va avea circa o treime din terenul fostului poligon de tancuri, restul urmand sa revina Primariei pentru amenajarea unui Parc Industrial.
Centrul NATO care se construieste la Oradea va avea un specific HUMINT (Human Intelligence) si va servi pentru pregatirea in aceasta specialitate a militarilor din state membre NATO, urmand sa aiba, conform lui Melescanu, nu doar salariati militari, ci si aproximativ 100 de angajati civili.
sursa:NewsIn
High Mileager November 9th, 2008, 11:23 AM http://www.dgmarket.com/eproc/np-notice.do?noticeId=2902394
..din pacate dupa deschiderea link-ului Fesability study..apar prea multe proiecte ..nu numai cel despre aeroportul Deva
High Mileager November 10th, 2008, 10:26 AM Sibiu airport runway..
http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/5789/sibiupistagg1.jpg (http://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sibiupistagg1.jpg)
http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/sibiupistagg1.jpg/1/w800.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img379/sibiupistagg1.jpg/1/)
tomis3 November 10th, 2008, 11:13 AM That doen't look flat to me..
High Mileager November 10th, 2008, 11:21 AM Good point!..anyway, as long as it does the trick(planes can land/take off)..
Le Clerk November 10th, 2008, 11:28 AM That doen't look flat to me..
What do you mean? I find it flat. Only at the end of the runway, when the plain is supposed to take off, the runway is a bit lifted but that's on purpose for better take off IMO.
tomis3 November 10th, 2008, 11:32 AM What do you mean? I find it flat. Only at the end of the runway, when the plain is supposed to take off, the runway is a bit lifted but that's on purpose for better take off IMO.
You mean like a catapult?
Le Clerk November 10th, 2008, 11:33 AM You mean like a catapult?
Mechanical physics stays the same since Newton. :D
Cosmin November 10th, 2008, 12:26 PM Airport runways are seldom perfectly flat. Major airport have runways that look just as curved. It's not because of the catapult effect you're talking about. Don't forget the runway is used in both directions and it would need "catapults" on both ends.:lol:
This is Zurich...
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7540/0137610ts5.jpg
tomis3 November 10th, 2008, 12:29 PM swiss...:ohno:
Cosmin November 10th, 2008, 12:34 PM Yeah, they can't make anything right.:ohno:
clubbman November 11th, 2008, 09:25 AM Băcăuanii sīnt pe punctul de a-şi moderniza aeroportul
• Blue Air ar putea concesiona Aeroportul din Bacău pentru 35 de ani • operatorul aerian este singurul care a depus o ofertă pentru concesionare, urmīnd să realizeze investiţii de 42 milioane de euro
Compania aeriană Blue Air ar putea primi īn concesiune Aeroportul din Bacău pe o perioadă de 35 de ani, fiind singura care a depus ofertă de concesiune, potrivit datelor furnizate de Ministerul Transporturilor.
Propunerea va fi analizată īntr-o şedinţă a reprezentanţilor autorităţilor locale şi Ministerului Transporturilor care ar trebui să decidă dacă operatorul aerian, singurul care a depus o ofertă pentru concesionarea Aeroportului internaţional George Enescu din Bacău deşi documentele au stat la dispoziţie două luni īn vara acestui an, va concesiona aeroportul.
Deşi decizia concesionării trebuia să fie luată īn vara acestui an, termenul a fost amīnat succesiv pīnă īn prezent. Iniţial, opt firme, şase romāneşti, una din Austria şi alta din Italia, au achiziţionat caietul de sarcini.
Schema de concesionare proiectată de firma internaţională de consultanţă Deloitte prevede reluarea licitaţiei īn condiţiile īn care oferta Blue Air nu se īncadrează īn detaliile caietului de sarcini.
Investiţii de 42 milioane de euro
Conform proiectului de concesionare, viitorul investitor ar trebui să investească circa 42 de milioane de euro īn următorii 35 de ani, īn special pentru reabilitarea şi modernizare pistei de aterizare-decolare şi dezvoltarea terminalului pentru călători.
Aeroportul internaţional din Bacău, destinat atīt traficului civil de călători ori marfă, cīt şi celui militar, are, īn prezent, o pistă a cărei lungime ar permite accesul oricărei aeronave construite īn lume, dar cunoaşte, conform specialiştilor, un avansat grad de degradare ce impune reabilitare urgentă.
Astfel, după ruperea terenului de rulare la aterizarea unei aeronave īn luna martie, activitatea aeroportuară a fost restricţionată. De asemenea, este nevoie de creşterea capacităţii şi modernizarea terminalului pentru călători, deoarece numărul pasagerilor care accesează serviciile aeroportului băcăuan s-a dublat an de an, īncepīnd din 2005, ajungīnd la o ofertă din partea tour-operatorilor aerieni pentru 2008 de 250.000 de călători.
Celelalte firme care au cumpărat caietul de sarcini pentru licitaţia de concesionare a Aeroportului George Enescu din Bacău sīnt Dawnay Day Corporate Finance Limited, Tasc Strategic Consulting BV Romania, PA&CO International, Tehnostrade, Porr Tehnobau und Umwelt Aktiengesellschaft (Austria) şi Sagat Turin Airport (Italia). Acestea ceruseră, iniţial, o prelungire a termenului de studiere a caietului de sarcini, organizatorii licitaţiei acordīnd doar o amīnare de două săptămīni.
http://www.evenimentul.ro/articol/bacauanii-sint-pe-punctul-de-a-si-moderniza-aeroportul.html
nebunul November 11th, 2008, 11:37 AM ^^ M-as bucura enorm dar nu cred ca se va materializa pentru simplu fapt ca Iasi-ul ii va face concurenta neloiala; adica va primi pentru modernizare ~200 mil Euro de la bugetul de stat ...
Insa la cum se misca (NU) astia de la Iasi :bash: s-ar putea ca Bacaul sa le-o ia inainte ... oricum, 2 aeroporturi la 130km distanta unul de altul nu poate fi decit benefic ... Mama ce dileme o sa mai am: aterizez la Iasi sau la Bacau ?!?! :nuts::lol:
Bytson November 11th, 2008, 03:42 PM ^^
Iti sugerez eu, la Iasi, cu conditia daca se face rapid si autostrada spre Targu Mures. :lol:
Bogdan BMB November 11th, 2008, 09:42 PM ^^ 2 aeroporturi la 130km distanta unul de altul nu poate fi decit benefic ... Mama ce dileme o sa mai am: aterizez la Iasi sau la Bacau ?!?! :nuts::lol:
stai linistit - timisoara si arad - 50 km si functioneaza:)
High Mileager November 11th, 2008, 11:37 PM mai mult aici
http://www.tvr.ro/articol.php?id=48712&c=351
Personal am zburat de la BBU dupa micile modernizari de la inceputul lui Oct..E ok! Spatiile sunt cam mici dar altfel,...comparativ cu terminalul de plecari de la Bergamo e chiar "parfum"..la Bergamo practic zona de asteptare inainte de boarding, este un fel depozit/hala cu banci..
dnd November 12th, 2008, 01:48 AM ^^ daca ar mai dezinfecta de gandaci sala de asteptare... :lol:
nebunul November 12th, 2008, 11:07 AM mai mult aici
http://www.tvr.ro/articol.php?id=48712&c=351
Personal am zburat de la BBU dupa micile modernizari de la inceputul lui Oct..E ok! Spatiile sunt cam mici dar altfel,...comparativ cu terminalul de plecari de la Bergamo e chiar "parfum"..la Bergamo practic zona de asteptare inainte de boarding, este un fel depozit/hala cu banci..
Sint curios ... ce diferente?! Au schimbat caruselul de la sosiri; ala de 3 metri (pe bune) care scirtie in draci si cu cabluri instalate made in RO ??! Ultima data am zburat de pe Otopeni (Oct 2008) ca BBU era inchis.
Apropos, ca si in imaginile TVR ^^ IMO pasarile sint o problema mare la Baneasa ... le vezi aproape de avion chiar inainte de decolare :bash:
COTNARI November 12th, 2008, 12:23 PM BBU in oct
la plecari e inca foarte aglomerat, baile tot super inghesuite si pline de chistoace/fum. de fapt fumul ajunge cam peste tot. dar ma rog, aici nu e numai vina lor....
la sosire totul e la fel. poate doar o iesire mai buna.
adevarata imbunatatire, imo e exteriorul. au eliminat masinile din fata + o parcare. arata mult mai bine si mai degajat.
nebunul November 12th, 2008, 12:54 PM ^^ :cheers:
Apropos, mi-am amintit de portiunea de drum ... :ohno: inainte de baneasa
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Clinlin November 12th, 2008, 02:53 PM Băcăuanii sīnt pe punctul de a-şi moderniza aeroportul
Blue Air ar putea concesiona Aeroportul din Bacău pentru 35 de ani operatorul aerian este singurul care a depus o ofertă pentru concesionare, urmīnd să realizeze investiţii de 42 milioane de euro
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http://www.evenimentul.ro/articol/bacauanii-sint-pe-punctul-de-a-si-moderniza-aeroportul.html
Lucrurile au fost tergiversate de magnificul Dragos Benea, aflat la conducerea Consiliului Judetean Bacau, pentru ca Romstrade firma detinuta de patronul Blue Air trebuia sa castige licitatia. Dupa scandalul aparut in urma lucarilor de proasta calitate efectuate de aceeasi firma la pista aeroportului Baneasa baietii smecheri nu au avut tupeul de a concesiona aeroportul Bacau firmei respective, dar au avut grija ca ceilalti ofertanti sa fie eliminati frumos din cursa. De altfel insusi caietul de sarcini a fost "croit" pe masura Blue Air.
Si da-i si lupta si vin alegerile, iar aeroportul ramane in continuare o rusine.
Ultimul termen la care trebuia anuntat castigatorul licitatiei a fost 20 octombrie 2008.
nebunul November 12th, 2008, 03:18 PM BBU in oct
la plecari e inca foarte aglomerat, baile tot super inghesuite si pline de chistoace/fum. de fapt fumul ajunge cam peste tot. dar ma rog, aici nu e numai vina lor....
statia de autobuz ...plecari :ohno::lol:
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/8590/plecaripp9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
pescarush November 12th, 2008, 04:38 PM s ar putea construi la Baneasa o bijuterie arhitecturala, pozitia este perfecta, ar putea fi poarta de intrare a orasului, cartea noastra de vizita. nu mi vine sa cred ca nu avem lucrari de interes public, acestea putand fi bune surse de inspiratie atat pentru investitori cat si pentru arhitecti. de fapt lucrarile publice sunt acelea care dau tonul in arhitectura, reprezentand si un factor moral al locuitorilor unui oras, o oarecare mandrie.
nebunul November 12th, 2008, 04:45 PM ^^ si inca e "norocos" Bucurestiul ca are aeroporturile la N ... si zona e bine dezvoltata ... de multe ori cind vin pe Otopeni vad turisti straini surprinsi de "priveliste" - soseaua faina, birouri, macarale, shopping city etc etc e... verdeata cit cuprinde ... sincer: Otopeni- Piata Victoriei - Piata Romana ... e o carte de vizita f buna :cheers: ... le cam pica insa plombele cind ajung in Gara de Nord :bash::bash::bash:
BTW daca fac aeroport in Sud ... :nuts: :skull:
Cosmin November 12th, 2008, 04:55 PM ^^ si inca e "norocos" Bucurestiul ca are aeroporturile la N ... si zona e bine dezvoltata ... de multe ori cind vin pe Otopeni vad turisti straini surprinsi de "priveliste" - soseaua faina, birouri, macarale, shopping city etc etc e... verdeata cit cuprinde ... sincer: Otopeni- Piata Victoriei - Piata Romana ... e o carte de vizita f buna :cheers:
Nu si vara, intr-un 783 plin, prins in trafic, si cu 3 indivizi transpirati, cu maieul tras peste burtozaur, care vorbesc tare non-stop. Mai ales ca ai timp sa admiri traficul in ritm de melc si praful care aminteste de o tara gen Oman...:puke:
pescarush November 12th, 2008, 05:00 PM macar daca in sud s ar face un aeroport doar pentru cursele low cost, iar cel din Baneasa sa ramana pentru chartere, un fel de aeroport de lux, nu stiu, exista asa ceva in lume? sau s ar merita mentine aeroportul 'doar' pentru atata? si spun 'doar' tocmai pentru motivele mentionate mai sus de tine, nebunul.
BTW, vorbind de trafic, al doilea pod de la Baneasa este terminat! and no traffic!
thanks to commodore: http://semaparc.blogspot.com/
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