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美军突袭北京失败的原因
　　2008年底,台海战争暴发，美军卑鄙无耻地想趁我人民解放军解放台湾之机偷袭中国，美国选定的攻击地点在北京市，行动代号“楼市风暴”。做战方针是用美老猫的82空降师；老屯的101空降师伞兵趁着夜色，占领各居民点，重要的经济活动场所，用装甲部队占领各政府，军事机构。企图要胁解放军回师来救援，缓解台湾压力。谁知伟大的中国人民奋起反击，美军犯了严重错误，死伤无数，损失惨重。
　　下面是美军参谋部于2010年分析失败的几大原因的内部解密版：
　　
　　一、中国人民的勇敢还击(无疑最主要的)。
　　
　　二、美侦察员大意地使用10年前的房地产开发商广告上的地图。 因为在美国，这种地图是非常准确的，而且规划后100年都不会有什么变化。
　　
　　1、结果因为使用这种地图，造成空降兵部份原本要降落清华大学的却落入昆明湖中，全军覆没。
　　
　　2、美老猫将军误以为从回笼观开发区15分钟可以杀入市中心，结果坦克部队在路上整整堵了8个小时还没到达建祥桥就被英勇的3轮板车民兵连在京昌高速歼灭得差不多了。
　　
　　3、美军的重型坦克根本就未能成纵队过桥，因为桥质量问题，是豆腐渣工程。
　　
　　4、老屯的101众多伞兵选择小区规化图上绿地、会所、游泳池、湖泊降落，谁知落地后才发现，他们都落在楼顶上，因为由于开发商擅自更改规划，把原先承诺的绿地、会所、游泳池、湖泊都起了楼，想多卖点钱。
　　
　　5、极个别的伞兵披着狼皮的羊落到地上也被全歼，因为按原先计划的绿化带，树从，园林等隐蔽设施，落地后才发现全无，整个小区除了几条马路还是马路。路上全都是车和狗屎
　　
　　6、打巷战时，使用的户型图严重失真。
　　
　　7、所有户型类部尺寸偏小，重型大炮均无法装入将军选为要塞的房间。
　　
　　8、特别值得一提的是美军突袭“安贞大厦”时，特种部队妄图沿消防通道突击 ,不想消防通道被物业公司封堵或改做他用......任务失败
　　
　　9、在巷战中，美军死伤惨重，因为他们按美国的习惯躲在墙后，谁知北京的楼盘普遍偷工减料，一枪墙就穿了，怎么死的都不知道。。
　　
　　三、看不明白的北京道路和交通。美国人发现北京防务部队竟然是残疾助力摩托化民兵师。
　　
　　1、美军的机械化部队沿着著名的京通快速路狂奔，到达四汇时已被颠散了架，被早已守候多时的收废旧家具板车民兵师一拥而上全部收去废旧站了。部分还能跑的，到了国贸桥时却因长达数小时的堵车，被太阳晒得中了暑。美国佬想喝口水，却发现地下水水质混浊不清，水面上漂满了油渍、大便、安全套等垃圾。绝望的美国佬对天大吼：我的上帝，这里能住人吗？我们千里迢迢的打来这里，真是自寻死路啊！
　　
　　2、根据中国移动截取的美国佬突击二分队报告：上帝！911真是美国人的见鬼日！好端端的大街上突然出现许多电线杆或者无井盖的涵洞，损失是：推土机5辆、坦克8辆(原因：敌人的电杆太硬，中国人已经撞习惯，车辆防撞性已改进，我军的不 行)；人员死250，伤450(原因：美国人不能对抗中国人的“地道战”，跌进坑内非死即伤)，请求立即撤退，否则恐有全部阵亡的机会！
　　
　　3、美军发现要开机械化部队进城简直是一场灾难，一路上有大大小小十几个收 费站要交钱，而且按吨位交钱，同样是过Tank，中国PLA至少比他们少交一半的钱。而且，连查养路费的也到处设岗，进了城又被交警罚款,罚到美军机械部队彻底不敢进城
　　
　　4、美军王牌101空中突击师套套得到准确情报：天通园路地面开阔可以作为空降地点！凌晨一点美军实施突袭，一跳下来就掉进挖开的下水道里。事后得知，北京市市政工程部门于十年前就开挖的改建天通园路下水道工程到现在都没峻工。北京市区内到处开挖的工地让机械化部队寸步难行。
　　
　　5、更恐怖的是，3环路所有桥不许走重型卡车,大胖子美军的车辆刚到4环就被 城管扣下了……
　　
　　6、美军千辛万苦杀到三元桥交叉路口,等红绿灯太久,晒昏了.面对路口的36个红绿 灯，见多识广的坦克驾驶员感叹不知道该怎么走。叹北京ZF太厉害了,早已动悉先机.于10年前设好埋伏.
　　
　　7、总算有一只海军陆战队依靠过硬的素质克服万难前进到二环路，结果不小心上了西直门桥，就再也没下来过，最后在首都市民的注视和嘲讽下全部跳桥自杀。
　　
　　四、北京市人民群众和各职能单位的积极参战是美军失败的主要原因。
　　
　　1、美国中央情报局的谍报人员在战前三天曾经潜入北京和平新城，妄图作为临时窝点将京A牌照的摩托化民兵师兵力布置情况报告总部，谁知道使用天鸿房地产商声称的XXM宽带，10张关键的总共才5M的布防图照片发了4天还未发完。战斗完毕，欢庆胜利的市民被告知，多亏了房产商和网络供应商的杰出贡献，城市才避免了更大的损失！大洋另一边，美情报人员懊恼地说：假如不是北京的小区宽带，而是非洲部落的设施，我们应该能在天安门过中秋节了！
　　
　　2、美军再次欲占领小区，被物业公司误认为是刁民业主雇来的新物业公司，遂 大打出手，可怜美军，哪里够打？城建的物业公司，一个字：狠！
　　
　　3、美军在进入“西单商业广场”时也遇到同样问题，上至总经理，副总经理，保安都是当兵出身的，一句不合就动手打人，美军避之为恐不及。
　　4、美军先遣部队刚刚通过京石高速公路进入北京，企图占领某某山水小区制高 点 ~~~~~结果被英勇的保安乱棍打出，鬼哭狼嚎~~~~~~~~~~~
　　
　　5、美军士兵晚上到雅宝路酒吧街等处的发廊按摸,洗头,嫖客,被装扮成按摸女 的游击队员俘虏!(军官肯定是在比较高档的地方,如 [天上人间] 被俘获)!经查他们都没有暂住证，统统送到昌平挖沙子，至死也没能回国。

That is torture.

EXACTLY

哎，以前只需右拐的路因为这个平面立交，不知道又要多花多少时间
西直门桥几年前就修好的呀，是因为暂时修路还是说难道当初设计就是这样？

I dont understand chinese characters yet!!!

You dont need to :)

北京立交桥

Beijing overpass from the sky!
I think these pics are at least three years old.

No photoshop!

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k222/shiyu918/beijing%20overpass/beijingoverpass1.jpg

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k222/shiyu918/beijing%20overpass/beijingoverpass2.jpg

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k222/shiyu918/beijing%20overpass/beijingoverpass3.jpg

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k222/shiyu918/beijing%20overpass/beijingoverpass4.jpg

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k222/shiyu918/beijing%20overpass/beijingoverpass5.gif

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k222/shiyu918/beijing%20overpass/beijingoverpass6.gif

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k222/shiyu918/beijing%20overpass/beijingoverpass7.gif

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k222/shiyu918/beijing%20overpass/beijingoverpass8.gif

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k222/shiyu918/beijing%20overpass/beijingoverpass9.gif

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k222/shiyu918/beijing%20overpass/beijingoverpass10.gif

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k222/shiyu918/beijing%20overpass/beijingoverpass12.gif

This thread is only for highways and bridges,not for constructions and scenery please

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k222/shiyu918/beijing%20overpass/beijingoverpass11.gif

they look so cool in the pics, but last time it took my taxi almost one hour to crawl 2 km to reach Erhuan Lu. There are just too many cars in Beijing.

Wow, simply stunning. I love all the greens!

^^

Five beltways ( ring road ) surrounding the city of Beijing!

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k222/shiyu918/6rings.jpg

Over hundred of overpass on the ring roads

http://www.lvwo.com/bbs/attachments/month_0804/20080426_60e539750c01c69e2902sYo0Fs3N15Hj.gif

Beijing overpass on GE

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k222/shiyu918/beijingge6-1.jpg


http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k222/shiyu918/beijingge7-1.jpg

hello... 5684 !!! :)
Chinese highways & Expressways ( 中国高速 )
try checking out : http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=232957&page=50

have more picture....:cheers: :)

Wow que bonitos puentes tienen en Beijing!!!

Saludos!!

Beijing 6th Ring Road Bridges

Beijing 6th Ring Road, totally 190km long, is close to be finished. The 38km west part of the ring road is the only site under constructions now.

map
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/2926/11921681892005090313124nm6.jpg

renderings on Tongzhou section
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/8898/5696e277oo7.jpg

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/1207/7694fb29rs1.jpg

Constructions
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What a monumental waste of land

Impressive, but still too narrow (no need to make them too wide I guess). Can't wait to see monster expressways with 10x10 lanes in China, I just love that stuff :master: Soon or late we'll see world's widest expressways linking the cities within China largest urban clusters.

Why on earth do you want the world's widest expressways!?!? They're horrible! Do you want Beijing's air to be even more unbreathable than it already is?

actually it's more efficient to have wide expressways. currently beijing-tianjin will have 2 expressways soon. one 2x2, one 4x4, a 3rd 4x4 expressway is on schedule. obviously a 10x10 expressway is more convenient and cost efficient than 3 such expressways.

Why on earth do you want the world's widest expressways!?!? They're horrible! Do you want Beijing's air to be even more unbreathable than it already is?

Because they turn me on.

^^:lol::lol::lol:

I do think 10 lane highway is an overkill though. 5 on each direction should be enough. I think it is not safe if it is too wide.

absolutely impressive truly out of this world and a glimpse of the future to many jealous people out there (monumental waste of land) although it'd be nice to see 10x10 with the far lane being no limit ;)

absolutely impressive truly out of this world and a glimpse of the future to many jealous people out there (monumental waste of land) although it'd be nice to see 10x10 with the far lane being no limit ;)
LOL jealous? There are too many of those in my country already and I don't want to see any more. I'll tell you the places I'm jealous of, it's places like Switzerland that have an excellent railway network and clean air, cities like Stocholm (http://www.urbanrail.net/eu/sto/stockhlm.htm), Amsterdam (http://www.urbanrail.net/eu/ams/amsterdm.htm) or Barcelona (http://www.urbanrail.net/eu/bcn/barcelona.htm) etc. where there are excellent public transport networks and its normal to walk cycle, and take public transport instead of driving everywhere. In Amsterdam they have multi-story bicycle parks http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/10/06/eyes-on-the-street-amsterdam/ Car dominated cities are horrible cities to live in. Of course these European cities also have roads, multi-lane motorways etc, but they have a more sensible approach to transport, an approach that doesn't have an obsession with cars! With regards to transport, there is one thing I am jealous of China about, and that's the amazing high speed railway network you're building. I wish we'd build high speed railways here in the UK. Am I jealous of 10 lane highways? NO

I notice almost all of the photos you've posted above show empty or almost empty roads. Aren't the photos below more like the real situation?
http://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos/2007/08/05/china-topper.jpg

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/images/attachement/jpg/site1/20070810/001320d123a10825fc0b13.jpg http://www.hawh.cn/admin/upload_file/img/2007-05/1180320314947.jpg

http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/51857535.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF193CC300C081D9F4700E5B25EC73CF293D4216CB8EA81316E66A55A1E4F32AD3138

Just beautiful, I really want to be stuck in the middle of this! No thank you, I'll take the train.
(photos fround on Google, though I also have some I took myself if you want to see)

I think davee08 was just being a little over dramatic. But anyway I am not sure if he is Chinese or not , so maybe you are addressing the "wrong" person. oh if I can remember he said he's an Australian studying Chinese :/

:D

So much traffic in the inner rings because they are too narrow imo. They should double the capacity, make them elevated if needed (like in Shanghai, Tokyo, etc).

:doh: Oh man... I give up! I'm just glad it's your country not mine!

^^ Traffic jams = Tons of unnecessary pollution, waste of time for millions, etc, etc. It is as simple as that, dude! Roads must be provided to catch up with the demand of individuals. Of course tons of mass transit network should be built too so that it becomes the best option, but a good city must provide excellent systems for both kinds of transport (mass transit and cars).

^^ But Beijing provides already better urban motorways/roads than any european city!

Anyway, these interchange provide with nice pics!

I think davee08 was just being a little over dramatic. But anyway I am not sure if he is Chinese or not , so maybe you are addressing the "wrong" person. oh if I can remember he said he's an Australian studying Chinese :/

:D

:okay: good memory you got there 02tonyl :) its great seeing all these massive highways and overpasses are built it might seem excessive to some but its badly needed especially planning for the future and build while materials and labour is very cheap rather then wait down the track which will surely blowout the budget :ohno:

What a monumental waste of land

Well China is big, they have the land to built such huge overpasses.

http://www.beijingupdates.com/forum/UploadFile/2008-5/20085110505056359.jpg

are there any figures somewhere for the length all the way around of each of these ring roads in beijing its so massive! i thought driving through hong kong was something but when i get to beijing it'll be like nothing i have seen before

Yes, Beijing is massive, 6th Ring is about 190km long, one of the longest ring roads in the world.

we need 12 lane express ways in large cities, but the problem is where is the parking eara?

can beijing expressway be as massive as LA now?

^^ Traffic jams = Tons of unnecessary pollution, waste of time for millions, etc, etc. It is as simple as that, dude! Roads must be provided to catch up with the demand of individuals. Of course tons of mass transit network should be built too so that it becomes the best option, but a good city must provide excellent systems for both kinds of transport (mass transit and cars).
You don't get it do you... A growth in traffic causes traffic jams, which means they build more roads to cater for demand. This makes it more convenient to go by car, so more people choose to drive. This results in more cars on the roads so you start getting more traffic jams, suddenly you realise that the 6 lane road that was built 5 years ago is no longer big enough to handle the volume of traffic, so you double the capacity to 12 lanes. That improves the flow of traffic for a couple of years, but guess what, that means more people choose to drive and you realise that the road isn't wide enough as yet more traffic jams, worse than before start forming. What do you do now? Add another 2, 4, or 6 lanes? Double the capacity to 24 lanes? No matter how much extra road space you add, it's only a matter of time before it gets filled up again. With road building, you can never satisfy demand, especially in a country that is developing as fast as China.

If you follow the American model of development like this where everyone has cars, not only would it degrade the quality of life in Chinese cities through loss of public space, massive increases in air pollution etc, it would also damage the rest of the planet's environment in the process. I'm not saying that cars have no place in China's future, but to blindly follow the American model of unrestrained car growth is unsustainable, irresponsible and self destructive. In cities as densely populated and as large as Beijing, there should be no need for cars to dominate. Generally for short trips people can cycle or walk, and for longer trips people can take public transport. You only really need to drive when you need to transport heavy/bulky items or when you are driving out of the city into a rural area. If the money that has been and is being spent on massive road projects was all spent on public transport, you'd likely have a network to rival Tokyo's by now. Of course, I acknowledge that a lot of money has also been spent on public transport already - there are much improved buses and there are new subway lines, but in my opinion, a disproportionate ammount of attention has been placed on road building.

Beijing highways don't really follow US highway model. US highways spread and extend straightly to other directions and most of time, the cars hardly circulate in circle. But If we have a look at Beijing highways, the traffic jam most likely started from the intersections of lifted bridges where the cars have to go through the complicated and narrow circles. Even highway designers admitted that the the worst design would go to Xi zhi Men bridge. Sure, it looks pretty from aerophotos, but the reality...:ohno:

http://img3.pcpop.com/upimg3/2005/7/6/9862518472567736.jpg

You don't get it do you... A growth in traffic causes traffic jams, which means they build more roads to cater for demand. This makes it more convenient to go by car, so more people choose to drive. This results in more cars on the roads so you start getting more traffic jams, suddenly you realise that the 6 lane road that was built 5 years ago is no longer big enough to handle the volume of traffic, so you double the capacity to 12 lanes. That improves the flow of traffic for a couple of years, but guess what, that means more people choose to drive and you realise that the road isn't wide enough as yet more traffic jams, worse than before start forming. What do you do now? Add another 2, 4, or 6 lanes? Double the capacity to 24 lanes? No matter how much extra road space you add, it's only a matter of time before it gets filled up again. With road building, you can never satisfy demand, especially in a country that is developing as fast as China.

'There is no limit for road demand' is a green myth. 'People will leave their cars if you don't provide roads' is another. Madrid (my home city) has constructed tons of wide highways and now we haven't serious traffic jams in most highways even during the rush hours unless it is rainy or something. If they hadn't enlarged them or constructed the new ones, the traffic would be far worse. What's your solution? Doing nothing?

There is a limit for everything, the amount of highways that drivers need isn't an exception. A well planned city MUST provide enough roads so that there aren't chronic traffic jams. Of course 3x2 or 4x2 is not enough for a monster city like Beijing, and I can't believe that you think it is. If they never widen those highways Beijing will be a nightmare for cars and peasants as more and more cars will avoid ring roads and use avenues instead. Avenues have a lot of traffic lights, and therefore you'll have more traffic jams, more noises, more pollution... everywhere. That's not the solution, in fact that's not any kind of solution.


Even if you construct tons of highways most people will prefer subways as long as you construct a huge and good quality network. But a well planned city must provide both systems. A lot of subways and narrow ring roads is a bad model, and so is tons of highways and almost no urban railways. Both models are terrible. It is unfair that you force people to waste 1 hour in their cars everytime they consider that they need to use them for corssing the city.

Then, how much pollution does a single car emit while trapped for 30 mins in a traffic jam? Probably the same amount emitted by several cars along the same route when the traffic is fluid. Fluid traffic saves pollution even if more cars are added. Also 100,000s people wasting 30-60min a day like that has negative effects on the economy. They accumulate stress before starting their works, they are trapped in a car wasting a precious time that they could dedicate to resting, working, spending, leisure or whatever. Almost anything we can imagine is better than being trapped in a car. How do you avoid traffic jams then? Blocking highway expansion will only worsen the problem.

Keep in mind that the Chinese coast has a very high density, world's widest higways will come soon or late as the coastal provinces will be highly developed within one or two decades. You better get used to the idea of a monster highway from HK to Beijing along the coast as well as super wide highways linking the main cities within the 50+ million urban clusters of the Yangtze and Pearl river deltas. Soon or late they'll construct such things, what would people think of a developed country which doesn't even provide something as basic as wide highways for the main flows of cars.

If you follow the American model of development like this where everyone has cars, not only would it degrade the quality of life in Chinese cities through loss of public space, massive increases in air pollution etc, it would also damage the rest of the planet's environment in the process. I'm not saying that cars have no place in China's future, but to blindly follow the American model of unrestrained car growth is unsustainable, irresponsible and self destructive. In cities as densely populated and as large as Beijing, there should be no need for cars to dominate. Generally for short trips people can cycle or walk, and for longer trips people can take public transport. You only really need to drive when you need to transport heavy/bulky items or when you are driving out of the city into a rural area. If the money that has been and is being spent on massive road projects was all spent on public transport, you'd likely have a network to rival Tokyo's by now. Of course, I acknowledge that a lot of money has also been spent on public transport already - there are much improved buses and there are new subway lines, but in my opinion, a disproportionate ammount of attention has been placed on road building.

I'm not defending the American model. I clearly said that a good model must provide BOTH wide highways and mass transit systems. One of them alone, especially in such a dense country, is unsustainable. The American model is as bad as the green car-phobic model, which only leads to chronic problems of traffic jams and therefore a huge amount of unnecessary pollution.

Beijing is constructing a massive subway network now, that's indeed the top transport for a megacity. We'll see whether it is enough or not to reduce the car use (it wont, you'll see). In the end they'll have to enlarge the highways anyway since such a huge city needs 'a lot of everything'. On the other hand we must face that every citizen of Beijing or any other city has the right to own a car if they want, and we should respect that choice and provide infrastructures following the needs of individuals.

Btw 2 million people wasting 200 hours a year in traffic jams means 400,000,000 hours wasted. The real figures are probably larger, which translated into economic figures mean considerable effects. Construct wider highways, allow Beijingers saving millions of hours and you'll be making a very good investment. Stagnate highway construction in a economically booming and heavily dense city like Beijing and traffic issues will only get much worse ^_^

This one was built to help reduce the Xi zhi Men bridge traffic.
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closed flyover above Beijing Zoo (noise proof, opened Nov 2007)

Old photos
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New pics 5.14 (beijingupdates.com)
http://www.beijingupdates.com/forum/UploadFile/2008-5/200851411282110252.jpg

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