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This is the newest proposed stadium for Zagreb, Croatia:

I can't see the renderings!!! Sounds interesting.

http://i33.tinypic.com/21ay7mp.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/2v2z5a8.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/29e6591.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/2rfwtc5.jpg

http://i32.tinypic.com/m9yaad.jpg

What do you think about it - do you like it or not, do you consider it to be a landmark and one of a kind or not. Any discussion is welcome.

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:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Which club will use the stadium and what's the rough capacity? Anyway I voted for no.1 in the poll ^^

PS) To my eyes it looks more like a spaceship from extra-terrestrial world than a volcano

Which club will use the stadium and what's the rough capacity?

Dinamo Zagreb and it is supposed to be the main stadium for Croatian national team. Capacity will be roughly 55,000 ppl.

It's unique, but i can't say i like it. That scoreboard or whatever it is over the pitch will create all sorts of weird shadows in the daylight games as well.

Dinamo Zagreb has an average attendance between 7 and 8k. Why don’t they build a stadium with a capacity around 10 – 15k? It will be extremely boring with 7000 spectators on a 55. 000 stadium.

the inside looks nice but the outside looks terrible.... I dont like the thing above the pitch looks like an UFO...and the facade looks kind of lame... Im pretty sure this can be much better.

The interior is fine but the exterior looks hopeless

Lol at second render with modric (damn he should have gone to liverpool) in it, anything is better then nothing btw and its looks awesome from inside and out

double post

Awfull,I dot like it at all.As I am from Croatia,I would be terrified if this stadium would be built.The interior is decent but exterior looks like piece of shit.:(
There are guys in Croatia that apsolutely like this idea saying that this stadium would be a "new Eiffel tower" of Zagreb because of it uniqeness.
Don t see the point of that.

It's definitely unique! However I think it's another case of a stadium designer trying to design something original, just for the sake of it. Like the Allianz or the proposed Nou Camp. I think the Interior is pretty decent though!

Dinamo Zagreb has an average attendance between 7 and 8k. Why don’t they build a stadium with a capacity around 10 – 15k? It will be extremely boring with 7000 spectators on a 55. 000 stadium.

It's for Croatian national team as well. It would probably be full every time when Croatian national team would play on it and it might be full durring some major matches like Dinamo - Hajduk or UEFA matches. But this is not the issue, I am more interested in your opinion about the design, exterior in particular.

I'd need to see a better render of the outside before I could really deside if I liked it, what the cladding looks like it very important in such designs IMHO.

I'd need to see a better render of the outside before I could really deside if I liked it, what the cladding looks like it very important in such designs IMHO.

Yeah, that's the problem with it... we don't have other renderings besides these ones.

The present stadium is often empty. There are 3 to 10k people per game, but for each european match and 5 games in league there are over 25k people.
If the stadium was roofed and nicer more people would come.
I dont really like the stadium but it would be great if they builld any.

It's unique, but i can't say i like it. That scoreboard or whatever it is over the pitch will create all sorts of weird shadows in the daylight games as well.

That's not scoreboard. Thats actually a part of the roof, it is helium filled balloon that can plug the hole in textile based roof to fully cover arena.

So, did they give up on Makismir? Ok, the stadium in itself is ok, I´ve seen uglier exteriors but my question is who is going to finance it and judging by the slowness of construction of Maksimir seems like this project could take years to complete.

So, did they give up on Makismir? Ok, the stadium in itself is ok, I´ve seen uglier exteriors but my question is who is going to finance it and judging by the slowness of construction of Maksimir seems like this project could take years to complete.

Not yet. We will have referendum, choosing to continue Maksimir, or build new one. This one won new stadium contest.

So, did they give up on Makismir? Ok, the stadium in itself is ok, I´ve seen uglier exteriors but my question is who is going to finance it and judging by the slowness of construction of Maksimir seems like this project could take years to complete.

This one is supposed to be built on the other location and in that case Maksimir would stay the same as it is now.

Dinamo Zagreb has an average attendance between 7 and 8k. Why don’t they build a stadium with a capacity around 10 – 15k? It will be extremely boring with 7000 spectators on a 55. 000 stadium.

Its for National Team and Dinamo European games mostly.. for our crap domestic league 15k would be enough, thats true.

So, did they give up on Makismir? Ok, the stadium in itself is ok, I´ve seen uglier exteriors but my question is who is going to finance it and judging by the slowness of construction of Maksimir seems like this project could take years to complete.

Maksimir construction stopped due to politics mostly. And that was almost 8 years ago. This is different project as Dinamo needs new stadium ASAP. Maksimir is probably going to be crashed if this passes on referendum.

huuuge gap between stands and picth

Maksimir construction stopped due to politics mostly. And that was almost 8 years ago. This is different project as Dinamo needs new stadium ASAP. Maksimir is probably going to be crashed if this passes on referendum.

well, politics (centralistic) started it too

i found a picture of another solution for the stadion kajzerica - it´s called "ruza hrvatska" - rose of croatia
...for me it looks very interesting..i don´t know why they didn´t get any price.

http://img.******************/photos/12759403.jpg

looks like a stadium of our member MoRush :cheers:

i found a picture of another solution for the stadion kajzerica - it´s called "ruza hrvatska" - rose of croatia
...for me it looks very interesting..i don´t know why they didn´t get any price.

http://img.******************/photos/12759403.jpg

as i already wrote on croatian forum...the design is nothing special, it's already seen, and it totally reminds me of beijing olympic stadum. dunno why, but obviously zagreb needs somethin' new and unseen :lol:

kriva dretva

That's not scoreboard. Thats actually a part of the roof, it is helium filled balloon that can plug the hole in textile based roof to fully cover arena.
Fair enough, i just saw 1:0 on the underside of it. Looks a bit stupid still.

Fair enough, i just saw 1:0 on the underside of it. Looks a bit stupid still.

Yep, they should be able to project score to it. However, it is a volcano, it has to have some cloud of smoke coming out from it! :D

On a serious note, this could be a cheap solution for a full roof with retraction capabilities. Combined with plastic rubber on a facade and a textile roof, this one shouldn't be expensive. We are still waiting for price projections and more details and renderings should be out this week or so.

How is it possible to display scores in a baloon filled with helium in electrical engineering? Maybe helium is something electrical in itself????????

Yep, they should be able to project score to it. However, it is a volcano, it has to have some cloud of smoke coming out from it! :D

On a serious note, this could be a cheap solution for a full roof with retraction capabilities. Combined with plastic rubber on a facade and a textile roof, this one shouldn't be expensive. We are still waiting for price projections and more details and renderings should be out this week or so.

If you're right, I think there will be a serious problem in growing up grass because of the balloon covering the sun unless the pitch is lain with artificial turf or the pitch itself is retractable as in Gazprom Arena which is u/c now...

I wonder what solutions they have about that problem...

If you're right, I think there will be a serious problem in growing up grass because of the balloon covering the sun unless the pitch is lain with artificial turf or the pitch itself is retractable as in Gazprom Arena which is u/c now...

I wonder what solutions they have about that problem...

For displaying result, one can use laser, i suppose. We don't know yet. Someone was mentioning liquid crystal, but I think that would cost too much.

As for the grass, I don't see too much problem; textile part of roof is translucent, and balloon can go high in the air, so it shouldn't cast too much shadow during a regular, non use day.

A bit better rendering:

http://www.jutarnji.hr/EPHResources/Images/2008/05/06/vulkan1.jpg

Roof is made from ETFE based textile, facade is from recycled car tyre rubber.

Balloon can be white or red-white rectangles (croatian NT color) and has solar panels installed.

looks, very very "blah *vomits*.

BLUE VOLCANO ZAGREB - New renders


http://www.d-a-z.hr/files/natjecaji_rezultati-njiric_1-1210156323.jpg

http://www.d-a-z.hr/files/natjecaji_rezultati-njiric_2-1210156323.jpg

http://www.d-a-z.hr/files/natjecaji_rezultati-njiric_3-1210156323.jpg

http://www.d-a-z.hr/files/natjecaji_rezultati-njiric_4-1210156323.jpg

I realy like it but that little rooof is awfull

Looks pretty amazing to me, although quite conecptual, i can't see them building it like this however much i'd like them to.

awful awful ground

The inside is nice the outside is :puke:

Who will pay for building the stadium? Dinamo Zagreb? Croatian government?

As it seems now.. City of Zagreb together with Dinamo. But this project isn't sure yet, as it has to pass referendum. This "blue vulcano" is option 1 on referendum and option 2 is project made by Alpine Bau on old location where current stadium is.

Who will pay for building the stadium? Dinamo Zagreb? Croatian government?

City of Zagreb, actually. Still waiting for the expected price.

It ıs look like to this

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/7482/63841319ws0.png

Chaiten in chile :)

Don't like it at all, wheter the interior nor the exterior.

Any renders of option 2?

How do I see this Volcano? :puke:
As simple as that. :ohno:

I can't see the renderings!!! Sounds interesting.

I can't see the renderings!!! Sounds interesting.

http://i33.tinypic.com/21ay7mp.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/2v2z5a8.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/29e6591.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/2rfwtc5.jpg

any updates?

That's what I think about blue volcano -> :puke: :puke: :puke:

Exterior is not pretty.

Guys, any news on how the referendum went? I'm reeeeeaaaaaally interested but have had no luck browsing Croat websites :)

only this from Javno, Sept22:
http://www.javno.com/en/croatia/clanak.php?id=184790

When did your campaign start?

- During summer days. We expected there would be a referendum for the Maksimir stadium all summer long, we cannot seem to welcome it, so did not go on vacation either –

Should the old location of the stadium remain or should a new one be constructed?

- I have always been for the Maksimir stadium, everyone knows that. When you look at all these big projects in Zagreb, unfortunately, or fortunately, I have to say that the projects the government is involved in can be assessed as successful. All other projects which are attempted to be realised are not realised in the foreseen period –

Title tells you everything :`Everyone Knows Zagreb Mayor Does A Poor Job`
So the answer is unfortunatelly "no",because there wasn't any referendum held.

Title tells you everything :`Everyone Knows Zagreb Mayor Does A Poor Job`
So the answer is unfortunatelly "no",because there wasn't any referendum held.

I thought that elections were held :nuts:
So this means the project is dumped for good or referendum just postponed... or what? Any final decisions?

Two months ago,before financial crisis appeared, it had been said that the referndum should be held around December.However,in the meantime there was no other information in papers...except financial and economic experts ,who are all suggesting that it would be wiser not to invest in sport infratsructure untill crisis is over..

I thought that elections were held :nuts:
So this means the project is dumped for good or referendum just postponed... or what? Any final decisions?

It's postponed,noone knows for how long.

It doesn't even look like a volcano.. looks like a slightly melted blue jelly cake.

looks terrible.


Or like a really fat blue cooling chimney from a power station.

I agree.

looks really unique but i didnt really liked it...

Unique but terrible, view from outside

I'm very sorry to say this and I hope I won't hurt anyone's feelings... but this must be one of the ugliest stadium projects I have seen in the recent years... voted 'I don't like it'... sorry

Who designed it? I mean, he's still alive? :puke:

People who knows how is our city ruled knows that this stadium will never be build. Nor this ugly melted blue surface, nor any other project. Lots of architectural tenders are here just to give money to the winning projects and to share the money afterward with corrupted city major. I know for at least 10 tenders in past 4 years that ended in that way.


Croatian BDP per capita is 8.450 EUR and average monthly salary is 800 EUR. Having that in mind here are the money price for this tender.

1. price (Ugly Blue Volcano) - 19.850 EUR
2. price - 13.250 EUR
3. price - 2 x 4.900 EUR

So I think that this thread can be closed because this stadium will never be build. Thanks God!

I don't like it :S

Please don't built this.

The exterior of the new blue volcano stadium looks awkward. We should have went with the renovation plan for the Maksimir Stadium. Should have liked that plan better.

The exterior of the new blue volcano stadium looks awkward. We should have went with the renovation plan for the Maksimir Stadium. Should have liked that plan better.

It's not settled yet, so don't lose hope.

Who designed it? I mean, he's still alive? :puke:
Hrvoje Njiric, a reknown Croatian architect. Alive, from what I know.


The funny thing is: people have also been laughing of Allianz Arena after it won it's competition. Life's so odd...
(yes - I think that if built, this would be a design of similar magnitude, although not that popular to copy - which would be a definite advantage).

One post after another, but it's been a while.
The referendum in question will be held in May 2009. Citizens will have a choice between rebuilding (from what I understand - completely, including demolition of existing stadium or at least significant parts of it) Maksimir and Plavi Vulkan. To show the general mood let me just say its architect is pesimistic and sees the chances of Vulkan poorly.
Although from what I found in Javno or some other Croatian source, the Maksimir may cost up to 4,3 billion kuna (!), which is over a billion euros (?). The thing I don't know is if it will cost that much including previous refurbishments or with only the upcoming works...

I think that's not the correct price for stadium. 4.3 billion kuna is about 600 million €. It's impossible
But thanks to the financial crisis and recession I think that even referendum won't be held.
Project is definitely on hold. Have to wait for some better days

I think that's not the correct price for stadium. 4.3 billion kuna is about 600 million €. It's impossible

true, I was never good at maths, sorry

Interesting, but not sure if i like it!! :dunno:

Unbeliveably ugly.

I agree. ^^

Awful exterior. Zagreb deserves much better one.

I hated it when I first saw it, but afterwards, I like it... it would be unique solution in stadium engineering... only I am not sure about facade material... but anyways, Zagreb must get new stadium (this Volcano or some other), asap, as this current (although myth for all Dinamo's fans) is embarrassment to all Dinamo fans, Croatia NT fans, and all Croatians....

what a vomit...looks like a toilet....:ohno:

what a vomit...looks like a toilet....:ohno:I wouldn't go as far as that but it is sure ugly, we can agree on that. Although some croatian forumers were thrilled with it , and still are :lol:

It's intensely unattractive. It reminds me of the super dome in New Orleans for some reason.

Am I the only one who like the design? Anyway this would be a great landmark for 21c football stadium just as modern bomber is represented by B2 stealth bomber.

The exterior is disgusting, might look ok at best if built.

Unbeliveably ugly.

:applause:

Stvarno je ruzan, bolje napravite neki drugi da se ne bi kajali posle. Video sam neki sto je bio jedan od mogucih, koji je po meni 10 puta lepsi od ovog. Ne znam stvarno kako ste se odlucili za ovaj i to kako sam cuo jednoglasno?! Nemoj da mislite da sam ovo napisao zato sto sam Srbin, pisem realno. Dinamo i onako igra na jednom od najruznijeg stadiona i umesto da ste napravili nesto lepse, sa ruznog ce da predju na ruzniji.

This is insane, Dinamo have just 2.000/3.000 spectators at match, what will they do with a stadium of 55.000 seats??

p.s: this stadium is horrible, worse that horrible maksimir!

I must say that I even like it. When i saw it first time I wasn't so sure, but now from perspective of time i can say it's quite cool.

Anyway is there any chance to built it?

I must say that I even like it. When i saw it first time I wasn't so sure, but now from perspective of time i can say it's quite cool.

Anyway is there any chance to built it?
I like it too.

It´s one of the most beautiful designs I ve ever seen. Great!

But the balloon, I dont think it will work out.

This is insane, Dinamo have just 2.000/3.000 spectators at match, what will they do with a stadium of 55.000 seats??

p.s: this stadium is horrible, worse that horrible maksimir!

Becouse Dinamo is the biggest club in Croatia and they have potential to have a lot of spectators...

And i think it's ugly too.

yeah it's the biggest club in croatia, but the average of supporters is too small... maybe just one match they can have full stadium, against hajduk, but all the others....? istra, osijek,varteks...

This is insane, Dinamo have just 2.000/3.000 spectators at match, what will they do with a stadium of 55.000 seats??

p.s: this stadium is horrible, worse that horrible maksimir!

You live in Croatia and you are pretending not to know what are the reasons (fan boycott) behind such attendance? Gimme a break :lol:

Worst attempt of trolling ever..

Anyway is there any chance to built it?

I doubt.. at least not in this shape on this location.

i really dont like this concept...not that i want to admit it but i think dinamo really deserves a better stadium. I think the best idea would be to build a new stadium in the same place as this one is.
there is enough space around the stadium right?

wouldnt it be nice if you had a stadium like that :
http://www.lechpoznan.pl/stadion/

You live in Croatia and you are pretending not to know what are the reasons (fan boycott) behind such attendance? Gimme a break :lol:

Worst attempt of trolling ever..

low attendances are there for last 10 years, really low... all because of Dinamo's presidency, and, this season, boycott

but Dinamo, when guys that lead club at the moment leave, as major club in almost one million city, can have 30k per match


i really dont like this concept...not that i want to admit it but i think dinamo really deserves a better stadium. I think the best idea would be to build a new stadium in the same place as this one is.
there is enough space around the stadium right?

wouldnt it be nice if you had a stadium like that :
http://www.lechpoznan.pl/stadion/

I like this concept a lot, and I would like it to be built. Maybe little bit different interior, like one tiered stands, with 40k places.


And this one in Poznan - I would not accept it even if some company comes and makes this stadium for free, and gives Dinamo 100M euros for transfers and so on. As it is gross.

heh ok,
svake oči imaju svog malara... :)

i just dont understand the idea of vulcano in zagreb? i mean whats the point?

Although i think it would be better to destroy current maksimir stadium and build a new one in its place any change is better then the stadiums current condition.

Although i think it would be better to destroy current maksimir stadium and build a new one in its place any change is better then the stadiums current condition.

Anything would be better than current situation.. we have by far the worst stadium even in Croatian league.. not to mention Europe wise.. situation is bad, but since there's too much drama and politics involved in it nothing will change until someone finally bans the ground and closes it for security reasons. I am absolutely pro Maksimir as location, but someone (hello there Mr. Bandić) in city should finally step up and say "listen guys... off to suburbs you go" and build a new ground somewhere else. This status now is just annoying everyone.. not to mention the embarrassment it brings to this club.

This is insane, Dinamo have just 2.000/3.000 spectators at match, what will they do with a stadium of 55.000 seats??

p.s: this stadium is horrible, worse that horrible maksimir!

It would also be the National stadium, I assume

very interesting...so what are the chances that this project will be completed

It would also be the National stadium, I assume
No, games of our NT should be played all over the country, but probably the biggest games will be played here.

Horrible.

very interesting...so what are the chances that this project will be completed

Almost none. People in charge of city do not have vision needed for this and are not for such extravagant ideas. And they must fill their own pockets first, so this stadium would cost as twice as somewhere else (where corruption does not exist).

No, games of our NT should be played all over the country, but probably the biggest games will be played here.

Are you sure? Do you see our Football Federation and it's leaders? :)


I am delighted with this, as I already told. I am just affraid some other city will build this before Zagreb.