Airlines in Romania [Archive]

Cosmin

May 7th, 2008, 02:32 PM

Crap! I remember reading several times that TAROM is under Alitalia's wing regarding SkyTeam. It even says so on Wikipedia.:bash:

Anyway, if I was wrong I'm really happy. I prefer AF over Alitalia.:banana:

Edit: oh, so they used to sponsor TAROM but dropped out because of their own problems.

TAROM signe un accord pour rejoindre skyteam en tant que compagnie associée

La compagnie roumaine TAROM a signé aujourd’hui un accord avec SkyTeam en vue de devenir compagnie associée de l’alliance.

Dans le cadre des procédures habituelles d’adhésion, TAROM devra répondre à un certain nombre de conditions préalables, afin que ses standards de qualité de service et de performances opérationnelles correspondent à ceux des compagnies de SkyTeam.

Une fois ces conditions satisfaites, TAROM recevra l'agrément formel du Comité directeur (Governing Board) de SkyTeam et deviendra la quatrième compagnie associée de l’alliance, après Air Europa (Espagne), Copa Airlines (Panama) et Kenya Airways.

La cérémonie de signature a eu lieu aujourd’hui au Palais de Snagov à Bucarest, en présence notamment de Ludovic Orban, ministre roumain des Transports, Gheorghe Birla, président-directeur général de TAROM et de Jean-Cyril Spinetta, président-directeur général d’AIR FRANCE KLM.

« Notre programme de compagnies associées illustre bien la stratégie de l’alliance en matière de réseau mondial. Il nous permet en effet d’étendre et de densifier notre offre sur des marchés régionaux porteurs », a déclaré Jean-Cyril Spinetta. « En Europe, TAROM est depuis longtemps considérée par SkyTeam comme un partenaire potentiel important. Avec son hub de Bucarest, déjà desservi par plusieurs compagnies de l’alliance, la compagnie roumaine apportera aux passagers de SkyTeam 130 vols quotidiens supplémentaires vers l’Europe orientale et le Moyen-Orient ».

Les clients voyageant sur les lignes de TAROM bénéficieront des mêmes avantages offerts par les onze compagnies membres et par les trois autres compagnies associées de SkyTeam. Ces avantages incluent notamment des programmes de fidélité coordonnés et un accès élargi aux salons en aéroport.

« L’association de TAROM à SkyTeam sera une étape importante dans l’histoire de notre compagnie » a déclaré Gheorghe Birla. « En regardant l’avenir, cette initiative ouvrira une phase nouvelle du développement de TAROM : les alliances sont des leviers puissants pour la création de nouveaux services à la clientèle ».

Le programme de compagnies associées de SkyTeam concerne les compagnies aériennes souhaitant bénéficier des avantages d’une grande alliance, sans toutefois devoir participer à sa gouvernance.

Chacune des compagnies associées est parrainée par une compagnie membre qui, agissant comme parrain, facilite son adhésion et son intégration dans SkyTeam. Le parrain représente également les intérêts de l’associé au moment des prises de décision par les compagnies de l’alliance. TAROM sera ainsi représentée par Air France au sein des instances managériales de SkyTeam.

Le programme de compagnies associées fait partie de la stratégie de SkyTeam pour développer son réseau mondial et améliorer les services proposés à ses 428 millions de clients annuels.
Air France press release (http://corporate.airfrance.com/index.php?id=alaune_detail&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=2770&no_cache=1&tt_news=2)

[B]Tarom intră în SkyTeam

Cu o întârziere de trei ani, Tarom semnează azi înţelegerea de preaderare la a doua alianţă aeriană mondială. Pasagerii companiei naţionale vor avea acces direct la 800 de noi destinaţii.

La finele anului viitor, cel târziu, românii vor putea cumpăra bilete Tarom pentru nu mai puţin de 841 de destinaţii mondiale, oferite de cele 14 linii aeriene partenere Tarom în SkyTeam. Înţelegerea de preaderare la alianţă, în calitate de membru asociat, va fi semnată azi, iar procesul de aderare se va încheia la finele anului viitor.

În absenţa acestei calităţi, clienţii Tarom pot alege între cele 31 de destinaţii naţionale şi internaţionale oferite de linia aeriană, unele pe baza acordurilor code-share semnate cu zece linii aeriene. Pentru alte destinaţii, clienţii Tarom sunt obligaţi să cumpere bilete de la diferite agenţii, care cuplează ofertele diferitelor linii aeriene, inclusiv ale Tarom, pentru a răspunde cererii.

Riscurile şi dezavantajele sunt în astfel de situaţii majore, printre care cel de rătăcire a bagajelor, nevoia de emitere a mai multor bilete, pierderea legăturilor pe aeroporturile unde trebuie schimbată cursa.

Tarom are în prezent 150 de acorduri tip interline cu diferite linii aeriene, însă biletele nu pot fi cumpărate decât de la agenţiile de turism.

Intrarea Tarom în SkyTeam va schimba radical situaţia. Odată semnat azi acordul de preaderare şi înţelegerile noi de code-share presupuse de acesta, pasagerii cu bilet SkyTeam în buzunar vor face check-in-ul doar o dată pe aeroportul de îmbarcare, terminalele pe aeroporturi vor fi unice, respectiv cele ale alianţei, iar procedurile vor fi simplificate.

Calitatea serviciilor va fi unică indiferent de linia aleasă. Destinaţii exotice, ca insulele Fiji, Barbados, şi Vladivostok vor deveni disponibile. Pentru biletele vândute, Tarom va primi un comision care poate ajunge la 10% în funcţie de negocierile care vor avea loc pentru semnarea de code-share-uri. Biletele SkyTeam vor putea fi cumpărate de la oricare din cele 2.100 de ghişee din lume ale alianţei.

Tarom a început negocierile de aderare la SkyTeam în 2004, o dată cu AirEuropa, Copa Airlines şi Kenya Airways. Ultimele trei linii au devenit membri asociaţi în 2006, însă Tarom a rămas pe afară. Motivul este explicat de un oficial pentru transporturi aeriene al Ministerului Transporturilor. „Fiecare conducere care a venit după 2005 a considerat că ceea ce a făcut precedenta este prost şi a luat de la capăt totul. Nici negocierile cu SkyTeam nu au avut altă soartă“, spune acesta.

Oficiali ai MT susţin că la plecarea fostului ministru al Transporturilor Radu Berceanu, în primăvara lui 2007, documentele de preaderare erau ca şi semnate, însă schimbarea acestuia cu Ludovic Orban a mai trenat cu un an intrarea Tarom în SkyTeam. Noua conducere a reluat negocierile, de data aceasta şi cu alianţa rivală Star Alliance. SkyTeam a rămas preferată ca urmare a unor avantaje, cum ar fi libertatea lăsată Tarom de a-şi păstra un valoros acord code-share avut cu Austrian (membră Star Alliance).

Importanţa Tarom pentru SkyTeam este dată de faptul că Tarom este singurul membru al alianţei în această zonă a Europei, iar membrii SkyTeam vor putea opera destinaţii interne din România cu ajutorul Tarom. Politica celor de la Star
Alliance este de a opera pe cont propriu aceste destinaţii, Lufthansa sau Austrian având propriile zboruri spre aeroporturile din Transilvania.

Potrivit unor oficiali ai Ministerului Transporturilor costul aderării va fi de aproximativ zece milioane de euro, sumă care va fi recuperată în trei ani. Principalii membri SkyTeam sunt Air France/KLM, Continental, Delta şi Northwest din SUA, China Southern, Korean Airlines şi Alitalia. Alianţa transportă anual 428 de milioane de pasageri.
Cotidianul (http://www.cotidianul.ro/tarom_intra_in_skyteam-45166.html)

So it's official!:banana::cheers::rock:

ionutzyankoo

May 7th, 2008, 02:34 PM

Great :cheers::cheers::cheers:

Cosmin

May 7th, 2008, 03:23 PM

Meet the future.:lol:
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/5/rotstpl7.jpg

Le Clerk

May 7th, 2008, 03:26 PM

^^ Nice signage! And good thing they thought of Traian Vuia and put its name on the plane. I'm assuming Tarom did similarly with the other Romanian aviation pioneers?! :cheers:

Cosmin

May 7th, 2008, 03:34 PM

Well, the SkyTeam logo is actually pasted by me. It's unlikely we'll see it on TAROM's aircraft before it becomes a full member of the alliance.

However, all their A318 got aviation pioneers' names.:D
YR-ASA "Aurel Vlaicu"
YR-ASB "Traian Vuia"
YR-ASC "Henri Coandă"
YR-ASD "Smaranda Brăescu"

Le Clerk

May 7th, 2008, 03:39 PM

^^ Your fake was a good one. :D
Anyway, I think it's a good marketing approach to place such aviation pioneers' names on the planes! Hope that Tarom starts thinking like an international company. :cheers:

Cosmin

May 7th, 2008, 03:42 PM

It has nothing to do with international companies. Air France, for example, doesn't baptize its aircraft. Neither does Malev. But KLM or Austrian do. No pattern here.

But I hope TAROM starts applying some special paint schemes like other companies do in order to promote company products (like the TAROM-American Express credit card) or events.
Air France no name
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7659/1225756kq5.jpg

KLM's Maria Callas
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/5343/1270907mj3.jpg

ionutzyankoo

May 7th, 2008, 03:53 PM

Cosmin perhaps it will be interesting that you start a thread on romanian railways/railway companies too. I am making some research work reguarding the trains and perhaps I will post it to comment on it. :)
With this search on airliners I started some research on this too. I will post it asap.
Cheers

Cosmin

May 7th, 2008, 03:57 PM

If somebody's willing to make such a thread, than it's fine, but I don't have the time, nor expertise needed for this. I'm big on aviation related subjects, not that big on trains and railways though.:lol:

I prefer taking care of this baby and the other one about airports.:D

Le Clerk

May 8th, 2008, 05:55 PM

The Money Channel
08/05/2008

Tăriceanu vrea ca, prin Tarom, să transforme România într-un nod regional în traficul aerian

Premierul Tăriceanu a declarat că Tarom ar putea cumpăra mai multe aeronave pentru a asigura legături cât mai bune între destinaţii şi a subliniat că vrea să transforme România într-un nod regional în ceea ce priveşte traficul aerian. "Vreau ca Tarom să profite de această dinamică a transporturilor aeriene pentru a nu pierde startul. Vreau să vedem dacă putem să achiziţionăm nişte avioane suplimentare, astfel încât călătorii să aibă legături cât mai bune. Am ambiţia de a transforma România într-un nod de comunicaţii regional. Putem să aducem călători din toată zona şi să-i transportăm fie spre occident, fie spre orient", a declarat premierul la Botoşani.

Tarom va introduce în programul de vară patru curse noi, din care trei internaţionale, care vor pleca de pe aeroporturile Otopeni şi Cluj Napoca, a declarat în conferinţa de presă organizată vineri directorul de marketing al companiei, Sorin Georgescu.

Din luna iunie vor fi introduse patru curse noi, trei internaţionale şi una internă. Astfel, două noi curse vor pleca de pe aeroportul din Cluj spre Barcelona şi Londra şi una din Bucureşti spre Frankfurt, potrivit declaraţiilor directorului de marketing al Tarom, Sorin Georgescu.

Pe ruta Cluj -Barcelona, Tarom va opera de trei ori pe săptămână, iar cursele spre Londra vor opera doar de două ori pe săptămână. De asemenea, Tarom va efectua curse pe ruta Bucureşti- Frankfurt de trei ori pe săptămână, cu înoptare în zilele de duminică-luni, luni-marţi şi vineri-sâmbătă.

EduardSA

May 8th, 2008, 07:51 PM

The Money Channel
08/05/2008

Quote:

Tăriceanu vrea ca, prin Tarom, să transforme România într-un nod regional în traficul aerian

Premierul Tăriceanu a declarat că Tarom ar putea cumpăra mai multe aeronave pentru a asigura legături cât mai bune între destinaţii şi a subliniat că vrea să transforme România într-un nod regional în ceea ce priveşte traficul aerian. "Vreau ca Tarom să profite de această dinamică a transporturilor aeriene pentru a nu pierde startul. Vreau să vedem dacă putem să achiziţionăm nişte avioane suplimentare, astfel încât călătorii să aibă legături cât mai bune. Am ambiţia de a transforma România într-un nod de comunicaţii regional. Putem să aducem călători din toată zona şi să-i transportăm fie spre occident, fie spre orient", a declarat premierul la Botoşani.

Tarom va introduce în programul de vară patru curse noi, din care trei internaţionale, care vor pleca de pe aeroporturile Otopeni şi Cluj Napoca, a declarat în conferinţa de presă organizată vineri directorul de marketing al companiei, Sorin Georgescu.

Din luna iunie vor fi introduse patru curse noi, trei internaţionale şi una internă. Astfel, două noi curse vor pleca de pe aeroportul din Cluj spre Barcelona şi Londra şi una din Bucureşti spre Frankfurt, potrivit declaraţiilor directorului de marketing al Tarom, Sorin Georgescu.

Pe ruta Cluj -Barcelona, Tarom va opera de trei ori pe săptămână, iar cursele spre Londra vor opera doar de două ori pe săptămână. De asemenea, Tarom va efectua curse pe ruta Bucureşti- Frankfurt de trei ori pe săptămână, cu înoptare în zilele de duminică-luni, luni-marţi şi vineri-sâmbătă.

Tarom does have the potential. They also need the correct infrastructure, meaning airports.

Cosmin

May 9th, 2008, 11:47 PM

Kinda off-topic, but maybe someone's interested...:lol:
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tomis3

May 12th, 2008, 08:20 AM

Ziarul Financiar

Compania aeriana de linie regulata Carpatair, unul dintre primii trei jucatori de pe piata, a transportat in primele trei luni 131.000 de pasageri, cu 5% mai mult fata de avansul bugetat in 2008.

"In primul trimestru am inregistrat o crestere de 17% a traficului, comparativ cu aceeasi perioada a anului trecut", a spus Paula Ardelean, vice president sales Carpatair. Tinta companiei pentru acest an este depasirea unui numar de 630.000 de persoane transportate pe rutele pe care le opereaza, fata de 563.000 de pasageri in 2007.

In acelasi timp, cifra de afaceri a Carpatair in primul trimestru au fost de 18 miloane de euro. "Veniturile din transportul de pasageri au crescut cu 6% fata de primele trei luni din 2007", a mai spus Ardelean.

Operatorul cu hub-ul la Timisoara estimeaza pentru acest an o crestere a afacerilor de circa 15% in euro, pana la 92 de milioane de euro. Astfel, Carpatair devine al doilea operator aerian privat de pe piata care se indreapta catre pragul de 100 de milioane de euro.

Anul acesta o alta companie cu actionariat romanesc, Blue Air, care este specializata pe zboruri low-cost, va depasi un rulaj de 100 de milioane de euro, in contextul unui trafic de 1.200.000 de pasageri. In acelasi timp, cel mai mare operator de pe piata, TAROM, se asteapta sa ajunga anul acesta la afaceri de 276 de milioane de euro si la un trafic de 2,3 milioane de pasageri.

Piata aeriana de linie regulata a ajuns anul trecut la circa 372 de milioane de euro, pentru 2008 fiind estimata o injumatatire a ritmului de crestere pana la circa 10%, potrivit Asociatiei Internationale de Transport Aerian (IATA). Cei mai importanti operatori de linie prezenti in Romania sunt alaturi de Carpatair, TAROM, Lufthansa, Air France, KLM, Malev, Czech Airlines sau British Airways.

In veniturile raportate la trei luni nu sunt incluse zborurile pe care Carpatair le-a introdus pentru sezonul de vara. Carpatair a trecut la sfarsitul lunii martie la operarea in regim intern a tuturor destinatiilor din Romania. Astfel, cu noile zboruri din Bacau, Cluj, Sibiu, Oradea si Satu Mare catre si dinspre Timisoara, Carpatair isi va dubla numarul de zboruri interne. Pana acum compania efectua curse interne catre Timisoara doar din Bucuresti, Constanta, Craiova, Suceava si Iasi. Extinderea pe cursele interne va creste ponderea acestora in totalul traficului de la 8% anul trecut la 15% in acest an, potrivit unor declaratii anterioare ale reprezentantilor companiei.

Principalul competitor al Carpatair pe cursele interne este TAROM, insa cei doi operatori nu concureaza direct pe foarte multe rute, avand in vedere ca Carpatair are hub-ul la Timisoara, care este punctul de plecare al tuturor zborurilor interne. Pe termen scurt si mediu compania se va dezvolta in continuare pe aeroportul din Timisoara, chiar daca in anumite momente dezvoltarea companiei a fost limitata de capacitatea aeroportului. Recent, pe curse interne au intrat si doi operatori low-cost, Blue Air pe rutele Bucuresti-Arad si Bucuresti-Sibiu si Wizz Air care efectueaza zboruri de la Bucuresti la Cluj.

Totodata, compania va plusa incepand cu acest sezon pe destinatia Ucraina, adaugand pe harta zborurilor pe langa Lviv si Odesa si Kiev. Prezenta companiei va fi intarita si pe Grecia prin cresterea numarului de zboruri spre Atena. Carpatair opereaza cele mai multe curse catre Italia, unde a bifat 9 orase, urmata de Germania, cu patru destinatii.

De la Timisoara mai opereaza curse de la companii precum Austrian Airlines catre Viena, Malev catre Budapesta, precum si Lufthansa spre M?nchen.

Fondatorul liniei aeriene Carpatair este omul de afaceri Nicolae Petrov (41 de ani), care a pus bazele si companiei Air Moldova.

Petrov detine direct un pachet de 11% din actiunile Carpatair, in timp ce compania Air Service, la care Petrov controleaza 67% din titluri, are o participatie de 39,6% din Carpatair, potrivit datelor Registrului Comertului. La Carpatair mai este actionar si omul de afaceri suedez Ingvar Kamprad, al carui nume este asociat cu IKEA.

Cosmin

May 12th, 2008, 05:26 PM

This September (on 2 and then again on 8) I'll check out one of TAROM's A318s.:banana:
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/4233/1324245bj4.jpg
A318 "Henri Coandă" at Charles De Gaulle

tomis3

May 16th, 2008, 01:20 AM

Source: www.standard.ro

Aliantele create in ultimii ani pe piata transportului aerian de linie din lume au creat posibilitatea companiilor membre sa dezvolte parteneriate si sa largeasca oferta de destinatii pentru pasageri. Insa, dincolo de caracterul lor “practic”, aceste aliante genereaza facilitati in privinta negocierii unor contracte de furnizare petrol, piese de schimb, servicii tehnice sau asigurari pentru operatorii care au aderat.

Cu alte cuvinte, intrarea intr-o astfel de organizatie permite unui operator aerian sa-si micsoreze unele costuri, deci sa-si sporeasca veniturile si, implicit, profiturile. Oficialii companiei nationale Tarom, care a semnat recent acordul de preaderare la SkyTeam, au precizat ca alianta va permite dobandirea unor venituri suplimentare pentru TAROM, evitand in acelasi timp pericolul de a fi eliminat de pe piata operatorilor traditionali. In plus, romanii vor avea posibilitatea sa fie transportati catre 841 de destinatii ale SkyTeam.

Companiile membre SkyTeam isi pot largi reteaua de rute datorita, in primul rand, parteneriatelor pe care le incheie in cadrul aliantei, pozitia lor comerciala fiind avantajata, considera Dominique Patry, presedinte al Comitetului de Pilotaj al SkyTeam si director Aliante si Afaceri internationale din cadrul Air France. “Aceste companii beneficiaza de notorietate din momentul in care SkyTeam le permite sa-si extinda reteaua catre noi regiuni din lume. In acelasi timp, fiecare companie are de invatat din experienta celeilalte”, a declarat pentru Business Standard Dominique Patry. Potrivit acestuia, pentru a deveni membra SkyTeam, o companie candidata trebuie mai intai sa raspunda unor conditii prealabile, atat in domeniile de operare si in cele legate de tehnologiile folosite si produsul oferit, cat si in domeniile referitoare la calitatea serviciilor si performantele tehnice care corespund celorlalte companii din alianta.

Compania nationala TAROM va trebui sa se alinieze la standardele impuse de alianta, indeplinind

anumite conditii care tin de schimbarea unor sisteme IT sau de check-in, sau de asigurarea confortului si sigurantei pentru pasageri. Membrii SkyTeam vor analiza respectarea acestor cerinte, urmand sa decida

acceptarea ei in alianta. “TAROM, in calitate de companie membra a SkyTeam, va avea acces la resursele strategice ale SkyTeam. Oferta TAROM va fi integrata in oferta SkyTeam si, in acelasi timp, in programele de fidelitate si in saloanele din aeroporturi”, a declarat oficialul Air France. Acesta a adaugat ca operatorul din Romania va putea deschide noi linii in parteneriat cu celelalte companii care fac parte din alianta.

“TAROM va aduce 130 de noi zboruri cotidiene, contribuind la intarirea retelei SkyTeam in Europa de Est. Hub-ul din Bucuresti, deservit in prezent de sase companii membre SkyTeam, se va numara printre principalele platforme aeroportuare ale alinatei”, a mai spus Dominique Patry.

Preaderare. TAROM si Alianta SkyTeam au semnat saptamana trecuta acordul de preaderare, urmand ca operatorul aerian sa devina membru al aliantei dupa ce va investi doua milioane de dolari pentru imbunatatirea serviciilor oferite, intr-un termen de 18 luni. De asemenea, compania nationala va plati, dupa aderare, o taxa de membru al Aliantei SkyTeam de 200.000 de dolari pe an.

“Costurile tin de indeplinirea cerintelor de armonizare a sistemelor de trafic, de rezervare, check-in, care sa aduca beneficii pasagerilor”, a declarat directorul general al TAROM, Gheorghe Birla. Prin aderarea la SkyTeam, TAROM va oferi accesul la peste 800 de destinatii noi. Compania aeriana va trebui sa isi imbunatateasca activitatea si servicii

le oferite pasagerilor. Astfel, se va imbunatati politica tarifara, care va fi mai flexibila si se va realiza un program de fidelizare a pasagerilor, prin care clientii vor beneficia de reduceri de costuri in functie de kilometrii parcursi, a afirmat ministrul Transporturilor, Ludovic Orban. Potrivit acestuia, in perioada urmatoare va fi listat la bursa un pachet de 5% din actiunile companiei aeriene.

Aderarea va permite, in acelasi timp, realizarea de aranjamente comerciale cu membrii aliantei, al caror efect principal va fi atragerea unui numar mai mare de pasageri. “Totodata, se va crea posibilitatea, la nivel de alianta, a unor contracte avantajoase de furnizare petrol, piese de schimb, servicii tehnice, asigurari, servicii-handling sau catering”, a declarat pentru Bussiness Standard purtatorul de cuvant al TAROM, Madalin Tudor. Un alt avantaj este legat de asigurarea unui tratament uniform pentru pasageri la sol si in zbor, dar si utilizarea brandului aliantei care va consolida pozitia TAROM pe piata. Nu in ultimul rand, alianta va determina dobandirea unor venituri suplimentare pentru TAROM, evitand

in acelasi timp pericolul de a fi eliminat de pe piata operatorilor traditionali. De altfel, inainte de semnarea acestui acord de preaderare, primul-ministru Calin Popescu Tariceanu a declarat ca TAROM ar putea achizitiona un lot de aeronave care sa permita operatorului aerian sa asigure pasagerilor confort si siguranta si sa reziste concurentei de pe piata. Acesta a spus ca a discutat deja cu ministrul Transporturilor, Ludovic Orban, despre posibilitatea achizitionarii unui numar suplimentar de avioane de catre TAROM.

Investitii. Pentru acest an, TAROM a bugetat investitii de aproximativ 20 mil. dolari (13,7 mil. euro) in echipamente si utilaje destinate intretinerii tehnice a aeronavelor, in produse hardware si software, cat si in achizitia unui imobil, avand ca destinate sediul central al TAROM. Totodata, operatorul aerian estimeaza pentru 2008 afaceri de 437 mil. dolari (277 mil. euro), cu 25% mai mari decat in 2007, pe fondul cresterii numarului de pasageri cu aproximativ 20%, pana la 2,3 milioane de persoane, si al introducerii de curse noi. Incepand cu luna iunie, TAROM va introduce patru curse noi, din care trei internationale, cu plecare din Cluj spre Barcelona si Londra, si din Bucuresti spre Frankfurt, precum si un zbor intern spre Tulcea, de doua ori pe saptamana. In primul trimestru al acestui an, compania a inregistrat afaceri de 84 milioane de dolari (54 milioane de euro), cu aproximativ 20% mai mari fata de perioada similara a anului trecut. In aceeasi perioada, numarul de pasageri a crescut cu 25%, pana la 412.000.

In afara de Tarom, ca linii regulate mai opereaza si Carpatair, grupul Air France-KLM, Lufthansa, Austrian Airlines, Malev, Czech Airlines si British Airways. Din Alianta SkyTeam fac parte, printre alte companii, Air France-KLM, Alitalia, Delta Air Lines, Continental Airlines, Aeroflot, China Southern, Czech Airlines.

SkyTeam Piata

SkyTeam detine 20% din traficul global, fiind pe primul loc in traficul transatlantic, cu o cota de piata de 31%, si pe locul doi in traficul global, cu o cota de piata de 20%. Alianta ofera 16.400 de zboruri zilnice, cu 841 de destinatii in 162 de tari. Nivelul traficului este de 428 milioane de pasageri pe an. Alianta a fost infiintata in anul 2000 de catre Aermexico, Air France, Delta Air Lines si Korean Air. SkyTeam este a doua alianta din lume dupa Star Alliance si Oneworld.

Le Clerk

May 16th, 2008, 05:09 PM

HotNews.ro
Joi, 15 mai 2008, 15:51 English | Business

WizzAir opens new operational base in Cluj Napoca, Central Romania

Wizz Air opened on Thursday its eighth operational base in Cluj, Central Romania which holds an new Airbus A320 plane and local crew members, a press release of the company shows. This is the second operational base of the company in Romania.

Moreover, the company launched its first flights from Cluj to Valencia and Milan, with a three times a week frequency. Wizz Air chief operating officer Luke Farajalah declared that the company's objective for this year was to transport 300,000 passengers to and from Cluj.

Wizz Air entered the Romanian market in July 2006 and located its operational base in Bucharest on June 2007. Currently, the company holds its second operational base at Cluj where it offers 17 routes to 10 important European cities.

Cosmin

May 16th, 2008, 05:14 PM

I wish and hope Wizz Air offers more domestic routes from Bucharest. I'm thinking of flights to Timisoara, Constanta, Sibiu and Iasi.

Le Clerk

May 20th, 2008, 10:03 PM

Ever heard of this: http://www.jetranair.ro ?

Cosmin

May 20th, 2008, 10:41 PM

Yep! And I must say I'm impressed by their growth. Several years ago I remember thinking they're just another airline that will soon go bankrupt, but here we are in 2008 and they now have 7 aircraft! I wish them good luck!

Btw, they don't operate schedules flights.:(

joce23

May 22nd, 2008, 10:05 AM

Blue Air flights from Mihail Kogalniceanu Airport as of July 29
http://www.nineoclock.ro/index.php?page=detalii&categorie=business&id=20080522-512639

Blue Air company will operate flights departing from Mihail Kogalniceanu International Airport, Constanta, as of July 29, this being the fourth domestic destination of the company, apart from Bucharest, Sibiu and Arad, Rompres reports.

Blue Air marketing manager, Florentina Ivan, declared yesterday, in a press conference, that the first two destinations operated from Constanta airport will be Bucharest and Brussels. :cheers: Constanta–Brussels–Constanta flight will cost EUR 100, to which all taxes add, and in a few days, the price of Constanta–Bucharest ticket will be announced. Constanta–Brussels flights are operated once per week, and during July 29–September 23, the company estimates one thousand passengers to use Bluse Air service

Cosmin

May 22nd, 2008, 01:03 PM

the first two destinations operated from Constanta airport will be Bucharest and Brussels. :cheers:
YES! :runaway:

sanasa1

May 23rd, 2008, 12:24 PM

on airliners.net they're saying that delta is stopping jfk-otp from october!:ohno:
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/3994344/

Cosmin

May 23rd, 2008, 05:47 PM

Oh no!:( I'm very disappointed by this, especially since we don't have any other direct link with the US and with TAROM buying just 737-800s and taking the A310s out of service (yet again) there's no chance they'll fly this route in the near future.:ohno:

Le Clerk

May 23rd, 2008, 05:48 PM

on airliners.net they're saying that delta is stopping jfk-otp from october!:ohno:
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/3994344/

America is running out of fuel...:nuts: I read some news saying that US airlines will cut off some flights due to the rising cost of fuels. :ohno:

Cosmin

May 23rd, 2008, 05:59 PM

The solution: enroll in Air France - KLM Flying Blue frequent flyer program and go via CDG or AMS every time you travel to the States.:bash: It's about 50 EUR more expensive than Alitalia but I guess it's worth it. Alternatively you can fly with BA.

d29

May 23rd, 2008, 06:17 PM

Great news from BlueAir, but who's going to use CT - Bruxelles? They better have a feasability study behind that decision.

Thankfully whoever's runing Kogalniceanu woke up this year.

joce23

May 24th, 2008, 02:04 PM

^^
They (MT, Blue Air ...) should launch some advertising campaigns in Belgium to attract belgian tourists here. I hope that MT and the low-cost compagnies have some strategies in this direction.

* I`ve never been to Bruxelles, so I`ll certainly try to take advantage of this opportunity. :cheers: I`m sure they will have passengers from Constanta.

nebunul

May 24th, 2008, 03:05 PM

Well, also you can connect to any other european/transatlantic flights. So if I want to go to Constanta for weekend (coz I'm nebun and I've done it many times) I'll just get London-Bruxelles-Constanta and return :cheers:
And it's true: A D V E R T I S I N G that's what's needed now:banana:

Andrei S.

June 7th, 2008, 05:39 AM

Source:http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/apwire/f4c7a3d076944424c311582abf7cf025.htm
NEW YORK (Associated Press) - Boeing says the Romanian airline Blue Air has ordered three 737-900ER jetliners, worth $239 million at list prices.

Boeing Co. said Thursday the airplanes will be equipped with Blended Winglets, which improve fuel efficiency and reduce CO2 emissions by up to 4 percent.

Blue Air started operations in December 2004 as the first Romanian low-cost carrier. It operates a fleet of five 737s.

Boeing says 10 customers worldwide have ordered 232 Boeing 737-900ER airplanes. Boeing said it has more than 2,200 unfilled orders for the next-generation 737 valued at more than $160 billion at list prices.

http://www.flug-revue.rotor.com/FRTYPEN/Fotos/boeing/7379EREf.JPG

Cosmin

June 7th, 2008, 01:44 PM

Romanian airline Blue Air orders 3 Boeing 737-900ERs
A good deal. Congrats to Blue Air!:applause:

Van&Dyk

June 20th, 2008, 03:34 AM

Guys, unfortunately, as of October 5th 2008 Delta is shutting down its JFK-Bucharest connection. Apparently it's not profitable enough for them! :ohno:

joce23

June 20th, 2008, 09:22 AM

Ryanair cancels flights to Romania's Arad airport effective July 31 :bash:

LONDON (Thomson Financial) - Irish no-frills airline Ryanair Holdings Plc. said all the flights to Romania's Arad airport have been cancelled effective July 31, due to the failure of the County Council and its president, Iosif Matula to sign and honour its agreement with Ryanair. :bash:

Ryanair (nasdaq: RYAAY - news - people ) said it will replace the Arad service with a three times weekly service from Bergamo in Italy to Berlin Schoenefeld.

The company said it had been looking forward to carrying 50,000 passengers in the first year of operations to the Arad region.

The budget carrier said, based on the short-lived success of the three flights per week it was running to Arad - which started in April - it had been considering expanding services from the Airport but now all plans for additional flights have been cancelled.
... http://www.forbes.com/afxnewslimited/feeds/afx/2008/06/19/afx5133411.html

YU-AMC

June 20th, 2008, 10:29 AM

Hmmm very fishy. Then Delta launched the serice , the pax number were around 81% to 89% full. I will try to find out more and get back to you on that.

EduardSA

June 20th, 2008, 11:20 AM

They closing their connection to Bucharest and just opened one to Cape Town for the world cup. Maybe some sort of coincidence...

Cosmin

June 20th, 2008, 02:21 PM

Guys, unfortunately, as of October 5th 2008 Delta is shutting down its JFK-Bucharest connection. Apparently it's not profitable enough for them! :ohno:
Yeah, we know.:( Well... we'll be left again without a direct connection to the US.:dunno:

Cosmin

June 20th, 2008, 02:24 PM

Way to go fuckers!:bash:

nebunul

June 20th, 2008, 04:00 PM

I do not get it: 80%+ occupancy (first year) is not efficient ?!

d29

June 20th, 2008, 04:35 PM

UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE!

nebunul

June 20th, 2008, 05:11 PM

Sa nu-mi spuneti ca a fost si reales!!!!
http://www.cjarad.ro/

d29

June 20th, 2008, 08:33 PM

Even Nicusor Constantinescu wasn't this stupid. How low can you get? :bash:

Robi_damian

June 20th, 2008, 09:20 PM

Arad airport was shuned by Tarom a couple of years ago, and they quickly took the low-cost lifejacket to keep it going.
They have a good position to become a low-cost airport for Arad and Timisoara as well and now they're blowing it away. They still have Blue Air (if this is any compensation at all).

commodore

June 20th, 2008, 10:36 PM

Maybe it's time for Tarom to resume flights to New York City.

Cosmin

June 20th, 2008, 10:38 PM

Using those A310s that they're about to sell? Don't think so...

Robi_damian

June 20th, 2008, 11:38 PM

A firend of mine claims she flew on an A310 on a Bucharest to Timisoara flight!
I'm curoius if demand has reached such a high level on domestic flights.

Cosmin

June 21st, 2008, 12:01 AM

Did she flew recently? Maybe it was a OTP-TSR-LHR flight.:dunno:

#Alex

June 21st, 2008, 12:03 AM

Cosmin, please add this airlines:

Luxair (Constanta - Luxembourg)
Atlasjet (Constanta - Antalya)
Blue Line (Constanta - Strasbourg - Paris)
Air Berlin (Constanta - Berlin , Dusseldorf )

Cosmin

June 21st, 2008, 12:10 AM

Have only added Luxair and Air Berlin, because the other two only operate charter flights and those are not included in that list, too make it more static and keep it "under control".:)

Robi_damian

June 21st, 2008, 12:15 AM

She flew today.
Normally, the afternoon and evening flights to TSR should be made by A318 planes (or more rarely B737).

d29

June 21st, 2008, 12:30 AM

Since when is Luxair and Air Berlin having flights from/to Constanta?

Cosmin

June 21st, 2008, 02:36 PM

Don't really know since when, but they do fly to/from Constanta.;)

COTNARI

June 22nd, 2008, 07:31 PM

Ryanair cancels flights to Romania's Arad airport effective July 31 :bash:

and here you have the reason :

they asked money to the city for their flights

Ryanair cere bani autoritatilor locale ca sa opereze pe aeroporturile romanesti
(http://www.gardianul.ro/2008/06/22/economie-c1/ryanair_cere_bani_autoritatilor_locale_ca_sa_opereze_pe_aeroporturile_romanesti-s115942.html)

a method which btw it's used in many places. at least here in barcelona. (Girona and Reus)

#Alex

June 22nd, 2008, 07:44 PM

Since when is Luxair and Air Berlin having flights from/to Constanta?

Don't know about Luxair or Air Berlin but ..

Carpatair introduce noi zboruri către destinaţii din Europa de pe aeroportul constănţean Mihail Kogălniceanu. Compania Carpatair va efectua, începâd din 23 iunie, zboruri zilnice (cu excepţia zilei de duminică) de pe Aeroportul Mihail Kogălniceanu, spre mai multe destinaţii din Europa. Avioanele companiei vor ajunge la Dusseldorf, Frankfurt, Stuttgart, Munchen, Torino, Milano, Florenţa, Ancona, Roma, Bari, Atena şi Salonic. Toate zborurile vor face escală la Craiova şi Timişoara. Cursa va decola de pe Mihail Kogălniceanu la ora 6.30.

nebunul

June 22nd, 2008, 07:44 PM

Ryanair cere bani autoritatilor locale ca sa opereze pe aeroporturile romanesti

^^:cheers:
Way to go fuckers!:bash:

Cosmin

June 22nd, 2008, 07:57 PM

Unicul (momentan) comentariu la articol:
nu ne vindem tara
Va mai amintiti de cazul Semanatoarea?
Sunteti siguri ca Ion Ratiu voia sa ne vanda americanilor?
Credeti ca Ryanair are nevoie de noi sau noi de ei?
Pe acest principiu aceasta companie opereaza in toate orasele cu potential turistic din toata Europa...si cu succes. Este prima companie aviatica la care te gandesti cand vrei sa ajungi ieftin schimband doar un avion (asa au eliminat KLM, Air France, Iberia, Tarom, etc.). Cand vrei sa iti faci concediul intr-un loc placut, te uit la preturile de la Ryanair si alegi unde vrei sa te duci. Ca sa ajungi in Romania, cea mai buna optiune este sa te dai jos la Budapesta si de acolo trenul...Tot prosti ati ramas, si edilii si cei care scriu artiolele de genul asta!
:lol::applause:
Apropo, 150k Euro vi se pare o suma mare? Mie nu.

COTNARI

June 22nd, 2008, 08:16 PM

Unicul (momentan) comentariu la articol:

:lol::applause:
Apropo, 150k Euro vi se pare o suma mare? Mie nu.

questia e ca in schimbul sumei ei se obliga sa aduca un numar de calatori. deci nu e un bad deal.

YU-AMC

June 24th, 2008, 02:13 PM

They closing their connection to Bucharest and just opened one to Cape Town for the world cup. Maybe some sort of coincidence...

The guys on airliners.net are saying it's due to fuel costs. Ahhh RO has FAA cat 1 standings. They should try out some NA cities.

PaulFCB

June 24th, 2008, 02:49 PM

nebunul

June 24th, 2008, 04:33 PM

^^ :ohno:
Guys, unfortunately, as of October 5th 2008 Delta is shutting down its JFK-Bucharest connection. Apparently it's not profitable enough for them! :ohno:

tomis3

June 24th, 2008, 05:31 PM

I used the Tarom a lot of times for Bucharest-NYC in the '90s and once at the end of 2000.
They closed the flight because Miron Mitrea sold the rights to other companies and so for some years who wanted to go to New York had to stop a Vienna or Paris. Now i heard Delta has a direct flight or something like that...
This flight was one of the most successful Tarom flight, i rember it was always full, never 1 seat empty.

I heard that the OTP-JFK flights were very unprofitable for Tarom. I flew this route with Tarom back in '92 or '93...It was horrible experience...The plane (B 707) was supposed to leave NY around 2 or 3 pm...we boarded around 11 pm and then, right before take-off, something happened (we weren't told what) and had to sit for another hour or so on the tarmac. Now remember, this is a 707 and the air conditioning system only works while the plane is in flight...(did I mention it was late July???)...anyway...we finally make it to OTP about a day late....and surprise....my luggage (along with that of many other passengers) was left at JFK....that was the last time I flew with Tarom.

PaulFCB

June 24th, 2008, 09:07 PM

That was Mitrea's excuses for shutting it down. Well, shit happens i guess everywhere, once we stayed 3 extra hours for a technical problem two, it wasn't anything bad, just took time probably more for them to find the time to take off. But the flights were 100% ok except for the Indians that used it. No doubt it was a very profitable flight,why do you think they made it later from 2 flights a week ( 1 direct one true Timisoara ) to 3? So they will loose more money or what? When the Americans were bombing Belgrade they used Baia Mare airport to replace the one's that stoped at Timisoara.
And they used Airbus not Boeing for this flight, i dunno in 1992 because i first flew in 1997, yes...one of the 3 Airbuses crashed in Balotesti but i dont remember anyone shitting on him because of that really...the romanian airplane pilots are one of the best in the world even though i think it won't last for long seeing some weird specimens trying to go for it...

Cosmin

June 24th, 2008, 10:40 PM

the romanian airplane pilots are one of the best in the world even though i think it won't last for long seeing some weird specimens trying to go for it...
I was one of them.:lol: But I don't consider myself weird. I just had to pass two more written tests (after all the medicals that I've passed) and suddently realized that:
a) hey, maybe I'll fail math (I had math and physics and I was never good at math);
b) sure I'd like to fly, but would I really like to do it for my entire life as a job?
So given the fact that I was already admitted at ASE, I decided to abandon the airline pilot thing. I regret missing the chance to actually finish a faculty as interesting as that and not flying those planes, but I don't regret not following my initial dream of becoming an airline pilot. Maybe some day I'll get my PPL (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_Pilot_License)...

Free_flow77

June 25th, 2008, 12:10 AM

I read in Ziarul Financiar from this monday an article about the Delta flights and the representative said that the flights will be suspended only during the winter schedule and restarted next summer. She said that Delta decided this because of the high fuel costs at flights longer than 10 hours. The occupancy during winter is only 60-70% and it is not profitable but the evidence that Delta still wants to keep Bucharest on their destinations is that they'll keep the office from Bucharest open:cheers: So lets hope that next summer the flight will restart:)

nebunul

June 25th, 2008, 11:21 AM

^^ Should do ... Romanians coming home for summer holidays, Americans visiting Dracula's land :devil: ... and and and ... soon ... ZA FORD boyzzzz and girlzzzz also :cheers:

YU-AMC

June 26th, 2008, 07:59 PM

Yes, you are right. The JFK/OTP service with a 707 is from Ceaucescu's times. It was a similar scenerio as Malev had it with chartered 707. Lol
We are talking about Taroms Airbus planes, 1997 + years.... Were those routes to JFK profitable? I remember they had Montreal and Washington on the network as well. Montreal had a slow down period on their economy as Toronto took over. Why they never flew to Toronto. I am confident that some politics is involved in here. Don't get me started on how many Romanians you got here.

That was Mitrea's excuses for shutting it down. Well, shit happens i guess everywhere, once we stayed 3 extra hours for a technical problem two, it wasn't anything bad, just took time probably more for them to find the time to take off. But the flights were 100% ok except for the Indians that used it. No doubt it was a very profitable flight,why do you think they made it later from 2 flights a week ( 1 direct one true Timisoara ) to 3? So they will loose more money or what? When the Americans were bombing Belgrade they used Baia Mare airport to replace the one's that stoped at Timisoara.
And they used Airbus not Boeing for this flight, i dunno in 1992 because i first flew in 1997, yes...one of the 3 Airbuses crashed in Balotesti but i dont remember anyone shitting on him because of that really...the romanian airplane pilots are one of the best in the world even though i think it won't last for long seeing some weird specimens trying to go for it...

YU-AMC

July 1st, 2008, 10:08 PM

NYSE is saying to American economy is expected to recover by the winter time. That's when American dollar starts to climb up, and gasoline price goes down. Anything can happen by October 08. Nothing to worry. Americans are big spenders and I am confident they will be all over Romania.

Cosmin

July 1st, 2008, 10:29 PM

NYSE has all the interest in the world for people to think that the American economy is/will be recovering, so I don't know about that, but their economy is very strong even when it's weak, so it will undoubtedly recover sooner or later. Just don't know if it will happen so fast...

YU-AMC

July 2nd, 2008, 06:57 AM

I understand what you mean. Lets hope we see a boost in Romanian economy. One flight to JFK by DL, and another one by Tarom. That would be wicked. Athens and BUD have that. Trust me, Bucharest is not far from that.

Cosmin

July 2nd, 2008, 10:21 AM

tomis3

July 2nd, 2008, 03:24 PM

If TAROM doesn't buy some new widebodys like A330 or at least a 767 then they'll have to use their two A310s again, and guess what... after resurrecting them one year ago or so they've said thay want to sell them. As far as they've said, they only plan on buying some Boeings 737-800. Hardly the aircraft to "do" New York.:ohno:

Doing this (I would prefer some 777's) would involve some sort of long term strategy...I doesn't look to me like Tarom has any at the moment.

Cosmin

July 2nd, 2008, 03:45 PM

I'd prefer triple sevens too, but I don't see TAROM buying/leasing them.:lol: Like you said, I don't think they have a long term strategy.:(

High Mileager

July 3rd, 2008, 12:40 AM

Maybe they'll get one..after joining Sky Team..they'll probably be pushed to have one! Also hopefully they'll get some good advice as well.

YU-AMC

July 3rd, 2008, 04:29 AM

Doing this (I would prefer some 777's) would involve some sort of long term strategy...I doesn't look to me like Tarom has any at the moment.

There were some topics on airliners forums that Tarom wanted to get triple 7s. They need a decent Boeing aircraft for the longhaus. The A310S are not the best. It is similar plane like 767-2. Even Malev wants to push those 762 to get more 767-3 in the future.

sanasa1

July 3rd, 2008, 06:18 AM

Like this?
http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairlinerphotos/photos/big/00008557.jpg
http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairlinerphotos/photos/big/00008558.jpg
:lol:

Cosmin

July 4th, 2008, 07:10 PM

Yeah, those skins are great. Got 'em from Avsim, right?:lol:

Le Clerk

July 4th, 2008, 09:45 PM

Autor: Ziarul Financiar
Data: 04-07-2008

Lufthansa: Romania depaseste Ungaria la volumul de pasageri

"La sfarsitul acestui an, volumele de pasageri transportate din Romania le vor depasi pe cele din Ungaria, iar Romania va deveni a doua tara ca importanta pentru Lufthansa din regiune, dupa Polonia, cresterea Romaniei fiind mai mare decat a regiunii", spune pentru BUSINESS Magazin Tamur Goudarzi-Pour, directorul de dezvoltare pentru Europa Centrala si de Est al Lufthansa.

Compania a deschis din luna martie a acestui an zborurile din Cluj, pe care Goudarzi-Pour il considera o buna destinatie de business, si evalueaza in continuare ce puncte ar mai putea acoperi in Romania. "Nu ne intereseaza orase medii sau mici de unde am putea transporta pasageri numai pana in Germania si inapoi, pentru ca nu suntem interesati de cursele regionale sau locale", spune Goudarzi-Pour.

Cititi mai multe pe www.businessmagazin.ro despre asteptarile Lufthansa cu privire la Romania.
Sursa: www.zf.ro/articol_178433

YU-AMC

July 5th, 2008, 06:45 AM

Da Da, nice one.

CrazySerb

July 5th, 2008, 09:48 PM

Question...in the first six months (January-June) , how many passengers have Romanian airlines carried?

Cosmin

July 6th, 2008, 08:26 PM

Like this?
http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairlinerphotos/photos/big/00008557.jpg
http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairlinerphotos/photos/big/00008558.jpg
:lol:
Some more fantasy pics from the world of MS Flight Simulator.:lol:

Boeing 747-400
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/7920/74kk5cx3.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/3815/rot744cargo1ok3.jpg

Boeing 767-300
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/754/tarom7631fm4.jpg

Airbus A330-200 and A330-300
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/3869/fspapa332taromplusupdatiy7.jpg
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/8985/rota3331go0.jpg

Airbus A340-300
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/4428/fspapa343tarom1rm1.jpg
http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/5890/poskya343tarom1mo7.jpg

sanasa1

July 7th, 2008, 01:49 PM

nooo i didnt get it from that game..i accidentaly saw it on a website http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairlinerphotos/ , anyway theres another pic over there with an interesting tarom livery
http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairlinerphotos/
http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairlinerphotos/photos/big/00000898.jpg
http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairlinerphotos/photos/big/00000880.jpg

Cosmin

July 7th, 2008, 04:51 PM

Yes, but even though it was on that site, it's taken in MS Flight Simulator 2004... trust me, I should know.:lol: They're all nice, wish they'd be real though.:(

sanasa1

July 7th, 2008, 05:13 PM

yes, me too. oh well, maybe in a few years:cheers:

tomis3

July 7th, 2008, 05:44 PM

Apart from the 747's (PMDG..maybe), are the rest PSS planes?

Cosmin

July 7th, 2008, 06:01 PM

They're quite a few different models, both payware and freeware...
747 - PMDG
767 - LevelD
777 - Melvin Rafi & Overland/Simmer Sky
A330 - Overland/Simmer Sky
A340 - Project Opensky & Overland/Simmer Sky

Why? Are you one of us freaks?:D

A few special TAROM paint schemes...

737-300 with Brâncuşi scheme - 2002
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/1659/0218245qm9.jpg

737-500 in hybrid TAROM/Estonian Air scheme - 2000
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9342/0098363za2.jpg

707-300 with a special tail color scheme - 2000
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/6176/0089502ho8.jpg

tomis3

July 7th, 2008, 06:14 PM

They're quite a few different models, both payware and freeware...
747 - PMDG
767 - LevelD
777 - Melvin Rafi & Overland/Simmer Sky
A330 - Overland/Simmer Sky
A340 - Project Opensky & Overland/Simmer Sky

Why? Are you one of us freaks?:D

I may become one…My wife, who was just my girlfriend at the time, got me FS9 in 2004. I messed around with it a little but my interest wore off pretty quickly. I reinstalled it a couple of months back and now I can’t seem to stop flying. I quickly realized that this isn’t just some silly game for infantile 13 year olds: you actually have to learn stuff. I bought the PMDG 737 600-700 and 747-400 and also thinking of getting the Level D 767 (I’ve been told that PMDG and Level D make the best planes). My skill level is pretty low at the moment (only mastered ILS landings a couple of weeks ago and I’m still struggling with some approach plates and STARS) but I’m learning quickly and having lots of fun.

tomis3

July 7th, 2008, 06:22 PM

I have this:

http://library.avsim.net/sendfile.php?Location=AVSIM&Proto=file&ImageID=201629

Cosmin

July 7th, 2008, 07:05 PM

A beauty, but what's with the grass? Looks too god to be FS2004.

You could say I'm quite experienced in FS2002-2004.:lol: I think I have around 200 (virtual) flight hrs. on the 737 alone... almost all made in the good ol' days of high school.:nuts: I don't "fly" anymore... not the 737, not the F-16, not the Bf-109... nothing.:( Don't have enough time, plus (the most important part) my rig is a rusting piece of crap.:lol:

Btw, you can also add realistic traffic in both FS2004 and FSX. There are many packages, both payware and freeware which add A LOT of traffic. My favourite is SkAI Traffic, which is freeware. Had that and tweaked a bit the traffic at LROP and LRBS and it was THE shit!:rock: The downside is that you have to have a pretty powerful computer because of the extra aircraft, and that at very busy airports such as Heathrow the percentage of aircraft that will have to go around will be about 25% at rush hours, because FS' logic cannot cope with the traffic, it wasn't meant for that.:lol:

Here's a sample...
orbo-L07LoM

Btw, SIDs don't work in FS, cause you can't follow them unless you ignore what ATC's telling you; and STARs only partly work.

But anyway, let's get back to the real world. Feel free to pm me if you have questions regarding FS.:cheers:

tomis3

July 7th, 2008, 09:16 PM

I have SkAI Traffic...it was the first add-on I installed. I took one look at the default AI planes and decided I had to get rid of that crap immediately.

I know SIDs and STARTS don't work and the whole ATC experience is disappointing. Last night I did a KSEA-KSFO (Alaska 112) with poor visibility at KSFO and ATC had me do a visual-only landing on runway 1L...I came in a little too high and a little too fast and ended up in the Bay...oh well.

I don't know where that grass is from; it's not my picture. I just have the livery.

Cosmin

July 7th, 2008, 09:29 PM

I don't know where that grass is from; it's not my picture. I just have the livery.
That's what they all say.:ohno: Potheads!

You had real weather turned on, eh?:lol: Weird that they told you to do a visual, cause I thought they always prefer any sort of precision approach to a visual one. Anyway, if I remember correctly you can request another approach from the controller... and I doubt SFO doesn't have ILS for that runway... though I don't know US airports that good except for JFK, LGA, EWA and ORD.

Edit: ok, I've checked and rwy 1L/19R is the only one without ILS. Talk about stupid ATC.:lol:

tomis3

July 7th, 2008, 10:38 PM

Edit: ok, I've checked and rwy 1L/19R is the only one without ILS. Talk about stupid ATC.:lol:

I know. As George Carlin would say, the ATC in FS9 is dumber than a second coat of paint.

Du'Myth

July 8th, 2008, 02:37 AM

So thats why our pilots are one of the best kind on Earth! Misteriously training in flight simulators, eh!?
Do you guys know some good (commercial or not) flight simulators for Macs? I tried some open-source versions but they suck a bit (can't pretend much from something that's free though...). Any suggestions are highly appreciated!

Cosmin

July 8th, 2008, 09:33 AM

X-Plane (http://www.x-plane.com/default.html) comes to mind...

nebunul

July 8th, 2008, 10:57 AM

^^ ZA real thing ^^ http://www.rhc.ro/forumrhc2/index.php? :cheers:

cosmin you've missed this http://www.rhc.ro/forumrhc2/index.php?act=ST&f=5&t=16742&

Du'Myth

July 8th, 2008, 11:04 AM

@Cosmin>Denghiu, haven't tried this one yet :cheers:

Cosmin

July 8th, 2008, 11:44 AM

nebunul, that's cool too, but instead of gluing and painting a model I prefer jumping in a virtual cockpit... and I can't have 'em both because of lack of time, so...

nebunul

July 8th, 2008, 11:49 AM

I meant this :cheers: http://www.rhc.ro/forumrhc2/index.php?act=ST&f=14&t=9481&

Cosmin

July 8th, 2008, 11:53 AM

Oh, THAT really real thing.:D:lol:

High Mileager

July 10th, 2008, 10:53 AM

questia e ca in schimbul sumei ei se obliga sa aduca un numar de calatori. deci nu e un bad deal.

Poate parea asa..dar cred ca trebuie clarificat un aspect aici.
Bun ..se platesc cei 150k..si se inmultesc numarul "turistilor" in Arad..de unde cresc si "veniturile" in zona respectiva.."turistii" respectivi cheltuind prin hoteluri,restaurante,mall-uri,atractii turistice etc..CJ Arad(platitorul celor 150k) ar trebui sa-si "traga" banii inapoi+profit din taxe ..right?..dar cum la noi taxele nu sunt locale banii cheltuiti de turistii(ii numesc turisti desi am o vaga banuiala ca de fapt in mare parte e mai mult un "dute-vino" al romanilor ce lucreaza ori vor sa viziteze zona Milano) respectivi vor merge mai intai la Bucuresti..dupa care "cu putin noroc" se vor reflecta( dupa un anumit timp) in bugetul CJ Arad.. Gresesc cumva?

In plus Arad-ul nu e Barcelona..cand vine vorba de "atractii turistice"..ori buget . Daca Barcelona plateste tot 150k..e nimic pt ei avand in vedere cohortele de turisti de acolo

Cosmin

July 10th, 2008, 11:15 AM

joce23

July 10th, 2008, 11:32 AM

Nu am fi acceptat niciodata sa platim noi compania sa ramâna la Arad. O astfel de clauza preferentiala ar fi un precedent periculos. Ei ar fi vrut, probabil, sa opereze gratuit la Arad”, a precizat Iosif Matula
:wallbash:

Precedentul periculos avusese deja loc la Constanta: :lol:

De ce se retrage Ryanair de pe aeroportul din Arad
http://www.dailybusiness.ro/stiri-turism/de-ce-se-retrage-ryanair-de-pe-aeroportul-din-arad_cat-8-14566
...
O campanie similara a fost adoptata de catre Ryanair in judetul Constanta, care a semnat cu Asociatia pentru Promovarea si Dezvoltarea Turismului de pe Litoral un contract prin care promoveaza judetul pe site, in schimbul unei sume de bani.
...
"Practic, am cumparat publicitate pe site. Vom posta pe un site cu 50 milioane de vizitatori anual anumite link-uri catre obiective specifice litoralului romanesc", a explicat, la acel moment, Corina Martin presedintele Asociatiei, fara a preciza valoarea acestui contract. Programul de marketing a fost finantat de Consiliul Judetean Constanta.

COTNARI

July 10th, 2008, 11:32 AM

In plus Arad-ul nu e Barcelona..cand vine vorba de "atractii turistice"..ori buget . Daca Barcelona plateste tot 150k..e nimic pt ei avand in vedere cohortele de turisti de acolo

Din cate stiu Ryan Air SE OBLIGA sa aduca in jur de 3 mil de pasageri anual in jurul BCN (2 aeroporturi). Iti imaginezi ca suma nu e 150k ci mult mai mult. Si nu plateste doar BCN, platesc toate localitatile pe o raza de 150 km.

Dar e o intreaga industrie aici(si nu numai aici), se cheama turism de calitate. Totul e privit regional. Totul e legat si merge foarte bine, nimic nu scapa. Sunt atrasi bani europeni pt aerop secuntare si comunicatii, sunt legate cu firme de transport. Si multe altele....

nebunul

July 10th, 2008, 11:38 AM

^^ Niste comunisti retardati care nici dupa 20 ani nu au inteles nimic cum se fac afacerile ... astia stiu doar sa mulga fara risk, fara investitii ...

nebunul

July 10th, 2008, 04:42 PM

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cristiqs/

Cosmin

July 10th, 2008, 06:34 PM

So the first 737-800 with winglets for Blue Air has arrived!:banana: Another -800 and three -900s will arrive in the near future.

High Mileager

July 10th, 2008, 10:45 PM

Cred ca uiti esentialul, si anume faptul ca vorbim de un aeroport. Pentru un aeroport, traficul e cum e oxigenul pentru noi. Mai multi calatori inseamna mai multe avioane, deci traficul creste si aeroportul face mai multi bani si isi schimba, usor-usor, si imaginea. Daca ei dau cu piciorul la Ryanair pentru ca trebuie sa plateasca 150.000 EUR (cam cat un apartament mai mare in Bucuresti) inseamna ca ori sunt saraci lipiti pamantului ori sunt batuti in cap.

Observa ca noi vorbeam de calatori, nu de turisti si tratam subiectul din punctul de vedere al aeroportului, nu al turismului in zona.

Ok..Generally speaking makes sense(and I even agree)with what you're saying... Myself, as many others posting here, I'm a big aviation fan, especially low cost as I'm on the move quite often.. I've already used 14 airlines(on 3continents).. out of which only two were low cost(the other one is Easyjet)..so with all modesty I can say that I know a "few things" about this industry.
So..of course..It would be awesome to have Ryanair flights to/from each and every single airport in the country..I've been flying with them twice ..out of CND ..for 1.51euros !! to PSA and then for 9.99 to STN..and that's f***ing great from the "traveler's"(I should have probably used - passengers) point of view..and if Ryanair policy is to charge the local administration instead of charging the pax ..that's perfectly fine with me.
However..as everybody quickly got fired up with the local authorities, let's try to SEE it from the airport point of view....whose owner, if I well understood, is CJ Arad..Let's assume that these guys(CJ Arad-"the stupid bureaucrats") are going to pay to that guy(Ryan) 150K for the Arad-Bergamo flight ..It's not that much anyway..That's fine and everyone should be happy..(at least in theory)The airport image will improve + "make money"(by selling plane fuel,charging the cab drivers operating in the area,also by charging rent some shops, restaurants,bars which will be interested to open inside the airport terminal as Ryanair will bring so many pax and the demand for souvenirs,food,drinks,newspapers etc will suddenly increase,just to give few examples ..) businesses in Banat will fleurish even more (supposingly) , pax flying in and out are gonna be even happier as they will pay peanuts..for a Bergamo/Milano flight! What huge progress, pride and good feeling for Arad to strike such a deal with world number 1 low cost carrier,before most Romanian airports..even before Bucharest!
Except a "little problem"..(only on Aradside)
Blueair came and said.."Hold on a second! If these guys (Ryanair) while operating 3 flights a week to Bergamo..are getting a bonus of 150K"..than myself as I'm operating several(12/week,I believe) flights in/out of here I should be getting a checque of 600K as well...and you won't be able to say "no"to me,cos, otherwise I'll just cancel my flights,eventually move them to OMR or someplace else..and then you can just put the lock outside as no one else flies from here more than I do,not even Ryanair!"
So.. by saying "it would have been a dangerous precedent" that guy actually meant to say that he's afraid that instead of charging airport tax(landing and departure frame charge) the companies he's trying to appeal there(the way he does with Blueair) he will actually end up paying them , maybe even out of his pocket, every time a company will accept to fly out of Arad..just because he did that with Ryan..and, by the way, that could still be ok..cos the airport "image"..will improve a lot! But,although image is very important (essential,if you want)at the end of the day it's just business,and indeed in most cases, image is directly connected to the business success. But in this particular case ,personally,I do have some doubts..I might be wrong though..
That probably works in other places which are differently/better organized(the way Cotnari was trying to explain).. especially for destinations like BCN,PSA,CND where tourism industry is well developed or they are bigger cities..and can be ok even for BBU,SBZ or future Brasov airport..(not to mention Berlin here)but you can rarely hear , if ever, someone saying: "I'm tired..I need a break..I want to get away".."I'll just get two weeks in Arad!"..Yes there is some local business going on(especially italian investments),YES there are people traveling in and out that area..but..still.. for now ..ryanair t looks like a movie star who's checking in a ***hotel and then tries to use his fame by not paying the bill and saying to the front desk manager: "Hey you should the one paying me for choosing to overnight in your hotel..as in the future I'm gonna bring here all my movie crew to stay while casting a film in the area,..and they will drink at your bar,eat in your restaurant(if you've got any)..and that will improve the image+revenue of your hotel a lot! Other people will want to come here just because I checked in here"...in some cases that might work(especially if the movie is about that particular hotel) but in most(3 stars hotels=Arad type of airport),it's probably safer to just charge the guy..although a discount wouldn't be such a bad idea..(as a bigger hotel,more appealing=Berlin airport can always pop up with a better offer)
Also let's not forget that TSR is very near ..and by paying Ryan to fly out of Arad..at a very low ticket price for pax that can put off future companies interested to come there..(they might think "if Ryanair operates there..myself I can't afford to drop off my prices that much.. I just can't compete with them..I'd rather go to TSR ..it's just half an hour drive anyway+better facilities")and then Arad airport options will be restricted exclusively to other low cost carriers..like Blueair ..which again can be fine if that's the purpose.

My only point with this long post?!
Maybe,we shouldn't be so quick on blaming the local admin for not having this deal getting through..I'm pretty sure that they would have "loved to afford" Ryanair in their city at this time..(by the way ..I don't know anyone there! ..I'm pretty sure that they wanted to be promoted thru the website(but at their convenience and not forced by signing a contract solely concieved by Ryanair)
My feeling when it comes to this,is that Ryanair rushed a bit with that charge by not getting all aspects of Arad market right..No question about it..when you have Berlin as alternative, you won't spend much time negociating with Arad. Still.. in order for this to work they should have probably operate longer ( let's say , one year) and then "put the numbers on the table".If "those numbers" would have been so great(or at least good)..They would have easily convinced the locals to pay ..cos by that time the benefits would have been obvious to everyone at the airport or in Arad area..

nebunul

July 11th, 2008, 11:28 AM

^^ Some fair comments ... but: if they guaranteed a number (IMENS IMO) of passengers why the hell wouldn't you (they) capitalize on it?!? Because our administrationS can not do (see) business & risk together ... they're part of old system where risk/investments/expansion etc did not exist. They are unable to make money through investments/risk … as businesses do ...

BTW in UK (si stii la ce ma refer) bisericile (ca sa supravietuiasca sau sa prospere) au coffe shops integrate … o cafea, un pahar de vin etc + un concert de orga sau altceva etc …

Uite una din burta: inmulteste numarul de pasageri promis de Ryanair cu o taxa de 5/10 euro/de caciula - taxa platita/taxata indirect prin servicii taxi, transport in comun, exchange, magazine, cafenele, spatii comerciale etc ... pun pariu ca iti iese si profit peste 150 mii Euro ... sa nu mai vorbesc ce bani vin la bugetul local din turism, transport, afaceri etc. Avem nevoie de o viziune noua in administratiile locale ...

tomis3

July 11th, 2008, 07:59 PM

tomis3

July 11th, 2008, 08:01 PM

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cristiqs/

Nice!!! and the plane isn't bad either.

High Mileager

July 11th, 2008, 08:40 PM

Your math is correct .
Myself I also had some doubts when it comes to this..paying 150k..for 3 flights a week to Bergamo..with a plane which can carry 189 pax at 100%occupancy..if my info is correct.
Best case scenario it will be(or it would have been) 500 pax flying out(over 90%occupancy) + another 500 flying in ..weekly.Multiply by 52 (weeks in a year) ..and you'll get aprox 52 000 pax/year..which is ok (for starters) but with "the promise"(contract) that future flights are going to be scheduled to other destinations ..like Frankfurt,London,Rome,Wien,Paris(you name it)..and in that case 150k would have been indeed justified..even more.
But as I said..it's hard to negociate with Ryanair (for Arad) when they have Berlin "on the other line".. They will want to hear only "Yes,will do".Nothing else.

tomis3

July 11th, 2008, 10:16 PM

YU-AMC

July 12th, 2008, 04:20 AM

:cheers:

For American economy and for the better future in Romania .:banana:

737 NG 800 series. There just is not a better choice.
Bravo

High Mileager

July 12th, 2008, 09:25 AM

Fuck'em...come on Tarom, Blue Air and Carpatair!!!!! Wake the fuck up...Other airlines are coming to your house to eat your lunch and they want our local transportation authorities to pay for it.

You got that right :lol: But pricewise it's hard to beat these guys(Ryanair and Easyjet)
Blueair is quite awake though..They've already scheduled several flights from Arad..

http://www.aeroportularad.ro/php/destinatii.php?lang=ro

also here

http://www.blueair-web.com/

nebunul

July 12th, 2008, 11:38 AM

I must have missed something 'cause this isn't making any sense...So Ryan supposedly wanted to commit to 3 million passengers a year to Arad (just from Bergamo)? Is this right? If so, it sounds absurd....I don't know much about the airline business, but 3 million passengers divided by 365 comes to about 8,200 passengers a day. I doubt there are 8,000+ people that want to fly to and from Arad on a daily basis.

^^ Well, I do not know the exact numbers ... but even if we say 350K/15K ... Ryan would have been paid after they delivered the passengers ... so no real risks ...

BTW
Ryanair Responds to False Claims by Arad County Council

Ryanair, Europe’s leading low fares airline, today (23 June) rejected claims by Arad County Council and its President, Mr. Iosaf Matula, in relation to Ryanair’s recent cancellation of its route from Milan Bergamo to Arad Airport. Mr. Matula had claimed that Ryanair had asked for extra funding to support the route in the coming winter period. In reality Ryanair was merely calling on the Council to honour the agreement, which it had made with Ryanair prior to the commencement of the route.

Commenting on Mr Matula’s false accusation, Ryanair’s Deputy Chief Executive, Michael Cawley said:

“We very much regret having to cancel this route from Milan Bergamo to Arad but we’re not prepared to do business with anyone who doesn’t honour their agreements. Arad County Council had specifically undertaken to support this route, particularly at its commencement, and had subsequently reneged on this commitment. Despite numerous efforts by Ryanair to get the County Council to honour its commitment, Mr Matula and his colleagues decided that they could ignore them and renege on their obligations.

“I also wish to refute Mr. Matula’s contention that Ryanair brought very little benefit to Arad. In reality, apart from putting this under-developed, provincial city in Romania on the international map, we also brought over 10,000 visitors to the city, thereby creating 100 jobs and injecting over €4m into the local economy. The region and city can ill afford the loss of this service which represented a unique opportunity to both stimulate the local economy and establish Arad as a plausible destination for airline traffic.

“With their failure to honour their obligations, Mr. Matula and his colleagues in Arad County Council have thrown away this opportunity and damaged the reputation of the city, both in Romania and abroad”.
http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/news.php?yr=08&month=jun&story=pro-en-230608

High Mileager

July 12th, 2008, 12:35 PM

..Fine! But which commitments is he talking about? if "isn't about the money Arad Council should pay to them" and everything else goes so well ..
than what's the problem?..I admit ..I don't get it anymore.

nebunul

July 12th, 2008, 01:27 PM

http://www.zf.ro/articol_177173/ryanair__nu_am_conditionat_cursele_catre_arad_de_plata_a_150_000_euro.html
http://www.anat.ro/index.php?cat=CAT0043295&p=pro&pro=PRO0047490

Cosmin

July 12th, 2008, 03:53 PM

In reality, apart from putting this under-developed, provincial city in Romania on the international map, we also brought over 10,000 visitors to the city, thereby creating 100 jobs and injecting over €4m into the local economy.
This is a well deserved punch in the mouth I must say.:yes: I'm glad they've said it, but too bad not many will take it in.

P.S.: waiting to be crucified.:lol:

nebunul

July 12th, 2008, 04:12 PM

^^ It is underdeveloped (as whole Romania in comparison to WE) ... that's the bloody truth ... ca in bancul ala ...

"O femeie maritata se desfata cu amantul ei.La un moment dat se aude usa de la intrare deschizindu-se.Amantul, panicat de sosirea sotului nu-si mai nimerea nadragii.Femeia, foarte calma ii spune: Nu te speria, ai tot timpul.SE duce in intimpinarea sotului si-i spune : "bine ca ai venit ,Iubi, te rog du-te si du gunoiul la ghena. Amantul ,rasuflind usurat isi spune in gind : Halal femeie , si frumoasa , si desteapta. Si pleaca linistit.Cind ajunge la el acasa , deschide usa , in citeva secunde sotia lui ii sare de git, Bine ai venit, Iubi, ia te rog gunoiul asta si du-l la ghena! Barbatul, in gindul lui isi spune dezamagit:" Si urita , si cu tupeu!"

BTW that's why I keep banging on about Iasi International Airport ... hopefuly they can be smarter than Arad and see the real potential; and attract (at least) three budget airlines ... and they'll be laughing ... Just imagine capsunarii (me included) din RO/Republica MD (maybe Ukraine) commuting to/from Iasi ... maybe somebody will open their eyes ..

tomis3

July 12th, 2008, 04:29 PM

Ryan sounds very arrogant....it's like they're the only airline the world. This whole "pay us to fly to your city" is in very poor taste in my opinion. They are an airline and should just stick to flying rather than trying to extort local councils out of taxpayer money.

nebunul

July 12th, 2008, 04:38 PM

^^ you can not fly cheap without advertising ... and btw they signed a contract with Arad town hall ... wtf ... a contract in NOT a contract only in Romania :bash:
btw here it comes our local saviour :nuts: http://www.evz.ro/articole/detalii-articol/811963/Avioane-pentru-euronavetisti/

tomis3

July 12th, 2008, 04:56 PM

^^ you can not fly cheap without advertising ... and btw they signed a contract with Arad town hall ... wtf ... a contract in NOT a contract only in Romania :bash:

So let them advertise with their own money...like every other airline does...

A quote from the Economist: Ryanair has been criticised for many aspects of its customer service. The Economist journal wrote that Ryanair's "cavalier treatment of passengers" had given Ryanair "a deserved reputation for nastiness" and that the airline "has become a byword for appalling customer service ... and jeering rudeness towards anyone or anything that gets in its way".

btw here it comes our local saviour :nuts: http://www.evz.ro/articole/detalii-articol/811963/Avioane-pentru-euronavetisti/

Atlassib ....first, the name has to go..same with blue air's slogan: your destination.our way. someone should tell them that the "our way" part does not have a positive connotation in english.

CrazySerb

July 12th, 2008, 04:57 PM

So could someone tell me, how many passengers were carried by Tarom, Carpatair and Blue Air in the first six months of 2008 ?:)

tomis3

July 12th, 2008, 05:05 PM

So could someone tell me, how many passengers were carried by Tarom, Carpatair and Blue Air in the first six months of 2008 ?:)

I haven't seen any partial numbers published yet. In '07, Tarom had 1.7 million passengers. Don't know about the other two.

High Mileager

July 12th, 2008, 05:06 PM

I also wish to refute Mr. Matula’s contention that Ryanair brought very little benefit to Arad. In reality, apart from putting this under-developed, provincial city in Romania on the international map, we also brought over 10,000 visitors to the city, thereby creating 100 jobs and injecting over €4m into the local economy.

I don't like how this dude thinks.If that's his perception about Arad what did he pick this city to fly to..first place?! He must have thought that those "provincials" are going to just say "yes" to everything they say/write in the contract ..as everything's from Ryan side is such a "big favor"!!..including picking their city as a destination.Well, now I'm glad the locals got the "balls" to say "no,thank you"..no matter how hard they wanted this company there.Ryanair should sell tickets(pay advertising like any other company out of profit)and just do their own accounting.If Arad municipality would want advets on Ryanair's website..I'm sure that they know where to get that phone number from.
I would like to find out how did this Ryan-guy came up with that 4m figure.. after 2 months and half of operating 3 flights to a single destination..I bet that 90% of their pax during this this time were just romanian workers coming in and out Milano area..careful when it cames to spending their savings ..and just because they have flown with Ryan doesn't mean the money they brought home are to count as Ryanair contribution to the local economy..If they would have brought few thousands of Italians for a visit at Macea castle or do shopping in Arad malls..maybe.. but I'm pretty sure that is actually the other way around..Romanians spent more visiting/going around in Milano.

You know what?!..Tomis3 is right...Duca-se invartindu-se !

If they want to do business there they just have to pay tax like everybody else..That's it! Take or Leave(it).
Blueair can easily take over that flight,especially now that they've got some new planes.

nebunul

July 12th, 2008, 05:17 PM

So could someone tell me, how many passengers were carried by Tarom, Carpatair and Blue Air in the first six months of 2008 ?:)

^^ Tough question ...
http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/1504/aavw2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/8703/bbgq1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

So let them advertise with their own money...like every other airline does...

Hey guys !!!! IMO You're missing THE point here :cheers: I do not (nobody is) argue about advertising costs and constrains and proposals, policies etc. and I’m not defending Ryanair here (I experienced quite a few delays with them :bash:) ... all I'm saying is that it seems a contract was signend ... and Arad town hall did not fulfil their commitments ... BTW vad ca Aradu':poke: nu prea are curse interne la tarom sau carpatair.
Si uite ce varza este Iasi-ul - are o singura cursa exterioara (Austrian) deschisa cu mare fast acu' citiva ani :nuts::bash:

tomis3

July 12th, 2008, 05:22 PM

I don't like how this dude thinks.If that's his perception about Arad what did he pick this city to fly to..first place?! He must have thought that those "provincials" are going to just say "yes" to everything they say/write in the contract ..as everything's from Ryan side is such a "big favor"!!..including picking their city as a destination.Well, now I'm glad they've got the "balls" to say "no,thank you"..no matter how hard they wanted this company there.
I would like to find out how did this Ryan-guy came up with that 4m figure.. after 2 months and half of operating 3 flights to a single destination..I bet that 90% of their pax during this this time were just romanian workers coming in and out Milano area..careful when it cames to spending their savings ..and just because they have flown with Ryan doesn't mean the money they brought home are to count as Ryanair contribution to the local economy..If they would have brought few thousands of Italians for a visit at Macea castle or do shopping in Arad malls..maybe.. but I'm pretty sure that is actually the other way around..Romanians spent more visiting/going around in Milano.

You know what?!..Tomis3 is right...Duca-se invartindu-se !

If they want to do business there they just have to pay tax like everybody else..That's it! Take or Leave(it).
Blueair can easily take over that flight,especially now that they've got some new planes.

He's just bullshitting....and of course most the passengers were Romanians. And their 3 million figure is very, very unrealistic. I think Ryan was just looking for a quick way to make 150K.

tomis3

July 12th, 2008, 05:26 PM

Hey guys !!!! IMO You're missing THE point here :cheers: I do not (nobody is) argue about advertising costs and constrains and proposals, policies etc. and I’m not defending Ryanair here (I experienced quite a few delays with them :bash:) ... all I'm saying is that it seems a contract was signend ... and Arad town hall did not fulfil their commitments ... BTW vad ca Aradu':poke: nu prea are curse interne la tarom sau carpatair.
Si uite ce varza este Iasi-ul - are o singura cursa exterioara (Austrian) deschisa cu mare fast acu' citiva ani :nuts::bash:

I don't know what contract was signed or what that contract stipulated, but if things stand as Ryan says, wouldn't they be threatening to sue Arad for breach of contract?

nebunul

July 12th, 2008, 05:36 PM

CrazySerb

July 12th, 2008, 05:43 PM

^^ Tough question ...

But I asked only about Tarom/Blue Air and Carpatair:)

I've found "something" about Carpatair...its a little old but i guess it will have to do:

Carpatair wants to carry 630,000 passengers after introduction of new routes
Autor: Ziarul Financiar | Data: 17 Mar 2008

Carpatair, the second most important airline after Tarom on the Romanian market, will rely on domestic flights and destinations in Greece and Ukraine in order to boost traffic by around 12% this year, to 630,000 people. The company has added a second destination in Ukraine, Odessa, and will launch a third one, Kiev. It will also consolidate its presence on the Greek market by increasing the number of flights to Athens, and introduce the Timisoara-Salonic flight, representatives explained. In total, Carpatair operated 21,000 flights last year. With new flights from Buzau, Cluj, Sibiu, Oradea and Satu Mare to Timisoara, Carpatair will double its number of domestic flights. Previously, the company exclusively operated flights to Timisoara from Bucharest, Constanta, Craiova, Suceava and Iasi. Expansion on the segment of domestic flights will mean that this segment will account for 15% of the company's overall traffic, up from 8% last year, as previously stated by its representatives. The company, whose hub is in Timisoara, estimates an around 15% increase in turnover to 92 million euros in 2008.

nebunul

July 12th, 2008, 05:47 PM

btw
http://www.airlinehistory.co.uk/Europe/Romania/Airlines.asp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Airlines_of_Romania

tomis3

July 12th, 2008, 05:57 PM

^^ well, if a contract was signed with CJ Arad, they should ...
btw http://oferte-promotii.cu-avionul.ro/2008/07/de-ce-se-retrage-ryanair-de-pe-aeroportul-din-arad/bilete-de-avion.html
+
cititi si comentariile :nuts::lol:
http://www.adevarul.ro/articole/ryanair-isi-retrage-zborurile-de-pe-aeroportul-arad/356655

Sounds to me like "forced publicity"...something along the lines: we will fly to your airport, but you have to pay in order to promote yourself on our site. you no pay, we no fly. Like I said earlier, fuck'em. Every airline should be treated the same and the local council should be able to decide if and where to advertise the region.

Btw…I have a great idea: Arad and Timisoara should join forces and build a new airport somewhere in between the two cities. They could call it Ti(misoara)(Ar)ad. That would sound cool…Tiad International.

nebunul

July 12th, 2008, 05:57 PM

^^ and who's going to fly there?! :nuts:

tomis3

July 12th, 2008, 06:00 PM

^^ and who's going to fly there?! :nuts:

All the airlines that curently fly to Arad and Timisoara plus anyone else who is interested.

COTNARI

July 12th, 2008, 06:26 PM

we'll put it on the highway and call it TIARA.

http://www.sugarplumprincess.com/images/tiara19.jpg

YU-AMC

July 13th, 2008, 08:59 AM

Carpatair is doing quite well for their size. What are the numbers for Blue air?

Cosmin

July 13th, 2008, 10:02 AM

Ok, I'm not gonna comment about this whole Arad/Ryanair issue. If the people running Arad airport (little more than a runway to be honest) think that's the way you run an airport like Arad, then who am I to judge them? After all, they're competent people, right?:crazy:

This doesn't affect me. I don't live in Arad and it wasn't a Bucharest-Arad anyway, so no chance of flying the route... though too bad for the people of Arad.

The more I read about this, the more it seems to me Ryanair knows what they're doing and seems that CJ Arad should probably forget about airports and maybe manage a... bus stop or something.;)

YU-AMC - Carpatair is doing great! If they continue to grow like this they'll probably surpass TAROM in terms of fleet size. TAROM now has a fleet of 21, while Carpatair has a fleet of 19.:cheers:

P.S.: both Carpatair and Ryanair should get new websites. Wtf?:crazy: Both look like shit and on Carpatair's you can't even do a normal reservation, cause you have to contact them by phone or mail. Do these people live under a rock?

High Mileager

July 13th, 2008, 08:38 PM

The more I read about this, the more it seems to me Ryanair knows what they're doing

Oh..They do! There is no question about that ! If they are charging the local admin so afterwords they can display on their website "Free flights"!..by that trying to put off other carriers..and when there won't be competition left ..they can just play with rates the way they want.From pax point of view it's ok but from authorities point of view, if they don't run a sought after city, most probably won't work.

tomis3

July 13th, 2008, 08:55 PM

Cosmin

July 13th, 2008, 09:14 PM

Carpatair has a mixed fleet of SAAB 2000 and Fokker 100 aircraft, and yes, I was comparing it to TAROM's, but only size-wise. What's wrong with that?

YU-AMC

July 14th, 2008, 09:32 AM

My guess would be that the fokkers are older? I think Tarom is still the bigger fish. Keep in mind that Tarom has some 737NG that are quite worthy. I don't mind the older 737s.

My concern is that Tarom is about to break 2M ballpark, but no flights over the pond..
Why is that a scenerio? Are they waiting for Romanian economy to get stronger? What is the truth?

nebunul

July 14th, 2008, 10:39 AM

^^ Delta has done it ... so I suppose they're learning from it ...

mash510void725

July 14th, 2008, 04:02 PM

sunt din arad si cunosc cat de cat situatia in legatura cu plecarea Ryan air.pana la urm acred totusi ca mai castigat era cj arad daca platea niste amarati de 150k decat sa fie tarat in asemenea scandal judetul si sa-ti plece de pe aeroport cea mai mare companie low-cost din lume.dar asta este acum nu putem decat sa mai speram ca vreuna din comapniile care opereaza in romania va prelua aceasta cursa spre milano,pt ca este o cursa rentabila
-in legatura cu ideea de a construi un aeroport intre Arad si Timisoara este o idee excelenta cu sanse mari de reusita,fiind nevoie doar de vointa politica.aeroportul ar deveni astfel un concurent pentru bucuresti sau budapesta ,deoarece ar servi o populatie pe o raza de aprox 400 de km.numele e mai putin important insa eu l-as boteza AEROPORTUL INTERNATIONAL BANAT.o parte din banii pentru acest aeroport i-ar putea obtine din licitarea terenurilor pe care sunt localizate cele doua aeroporturi,pentru ca pana la urma nu suntem bucuresti sa avem nevoie de 3 aeroprturi.

nebunul

July 14th, 2008, 04:22 PM

Cosmin

July 14th, 2008, 04:24 PM

Nu ii duce capul.:dunno: Chiar am senzatia ca pe multi din administratie nu ii duce capul si nu sunt competenti pe domeniul lor.

YU-AMC

July 15th, 2008, 09:19 AM

^^ Delta has done it ... so I suppose they're learning from it ... I am sure they are. :cheers:
It would be nice to see them again in North America. It would feel like it is my Serbian airline. :)

High Mileager

July 16th, 2008, 11:32 AM

I agree ... ce mare smecherie 150K in RO (mai ales in ziua de azi cind e plin gipane de jdemii de euro si nu gaseti casa sub 200k) ... mai ales daca stii sa faci business si sa speculezi traficul/oportunitatile care ar fi fost create

We don't have to agree on this.
But this isn't about money (especially that amount)..it's about policies..you pay Ryanair than you end up paying everybody else flying to Arad.
Even if they would have asked 5k..or 500k that shouldn't have had anything to do with scheduling a flight there..
From Ryan side that should have been just a simple business offer to Arad ..something like.."Hey, look! we have some more options for you..if you want to get more people here(Arad) than is wise to pay an advert on our website.." Arad could have said: "Ok I'll think about and I'll call you back if I decide to go that"..
Nothing to do with the flight scheduling .

nebunul

July 16th, 2008, 11:35 AM

Let's do business and try to avoid "policies" and "options" etc etc!!!!
IMO Alb pe Negru: ce cistiga/pierde Arad-ul din plecarea Rynair?! IMO pierde

mash510void725

July 17th, 2008, 06:28 PM

Operatorul aerian low-cost Ryanair a anuntat astazi ca va opri aproape o treime din avioanele sale la sol si ca va opri operatiunile in sapte aeroporturi europene, ca urmare a preturilor prea mari ale combustibililor, informeaza CNN.

Ryanair va reduce numarul avioanelor care opereaza pe aeroportul din Londra la 28, incepand cu octombrie, fata de numarul anterior de 40.

CEO-ul companiei Michael O'Leary a declarat ca se asteapta de asemenea la o reducere a numarului de angajati cu 900 de persoane.

Intre 4 noiembrie si 19 decembrie, Ryanair isi va suspenda serviciile catre sapte destinatii: Basel, in Elvetia, Budapesta, orasele poloneze Krakovia si Rzeszow, Palma si Valencia, in Spania; si Salzburg in Austria.
http://www.zf.ro/articol_180067/ryanair__obligat_sa_reduca_numarul_zborurilor.html
DA DECI M-AM CONVINS:VOIAU SA OPEREZE GRATIS PE AEROPORTUL DIN ARAD

nebunul

July 17th, 2008, 06:32 PM

^^ IMO nu are nici o legatura cu Aradu' ... era zborurilor ieftine (cam) apune din cauza costurilor combustibilului, supertaxe pentru global warming etc

Le Clerk

July 24th, 2008, 10:18 AM

Business Standard
24/07/2008

Tarom business up 20% in H1, while costs are expected to double

National Tarom airline registered turnover worth €120 million in the first six months of this year, 20 percent higher than in H1 2007, due to an increase in the number of passengers.
The company’s spokesman, Madalin Tudor, said the company had 900,000 passengers in H1, some 16 percent more than in the first half of 2007.

Meanwhile, the company’s costs will double due to higher fuel prices. “Current fuel prices make up some 35-40 percent of the total expenses,” Tudor said.

Tarom is looking for new ways to control costs during the international oil market crisis, such as acquiring new aircraft with lower kerosene consumption or renting planes, according to Tudor. Market sources say the company is interested in acquiring several Boeing 737-800 Next Generation planes, a model recently purchased by low-cost Blue Air. This model has a longer flight capacity, lower consumption and carbon emissions.

Tarom’s fleet currently includes eight Boeing 737 planes, seven ATR 42-500, four Airbus 318-100 and two Airbus 310-325.

For this year, the company’s investment budget amounts to some €13.7 million for maintenance equipment, hardware and software products, and acquisition of a building to become Tarom’s headquarters.

joce23

July 24th, 2008, 12:02 PM

British Airways: Romania climbs six places in Europe
ZF (http://www.zf.ro/articol_180788/british_airways__romania_climbs_six_places_in_europe.html)

British Airways posted a 34% increase in revenues derived in Romania in the first quarter of the fiscal year (April - June) and surpassed Hungary and the Czech Republic and, as a result, became the company's eighth largest market in Europe.

"Last year, Romania ranked 14th in Europe, but the growth achieved this year has catapulted us into the top ten. In terms of growth rate, we have even left Poland behind," said Emil Delibashev, commercial manager of British Airways Romania, Bulgaria and Moldova.

The company expects to preserve its growth rate throughout the summer and the entire fiscal year (April 2008 - March 2009), and forecasts an over 10% revenue increase against 2007. Company representatives did not provide information on the value of sales derived on the local market.

"The winter schedule will no longer include a third daily flight on the Bucharest-London route because traffic is less heavy during that period. However, this route will be resumed next summer, with flights to be adapted to the summer schedule," added Delibashev.

Although airline operators are faced with a worldwide crisis due to an increase in fuel prices, which has prompted a reduction in the frequency of flights on certain routes, the growth experienced in Romania has encouraged BA to continue development plans on the local market.

"Romania is a secure market from this point of view, and development continues to be our target. Cluj remains one of BA's priorities when it comes to launching new routes", explained Delibashev.

British Airways introduced its third daily flight on the Bucharest-London route at the end of March, which will be part of next summer's schedule.

The introduction of the new route has also boosted passenger traffic on connecting flights, with prevalent final destinations for those travelling from Bucharest to London being New York and Chicago.

"Lately, we have seen significant increases in traffic on connecting flights to Cape Town, Johannesburg (South Africa), Hong Kong and Sydney (Australia)," specified the representative of British Airways Romania, who added that promotional fares had been introduced for destinations outside the United States, Canada and Europe, which can reach around 400 euros for return flights (landing fees excluded).

Aside from British Airways, Romanian passengers also choose operators such as KLM and Air France for transatlantic flights. The only direct flight on the Bucharest - New York route is the one operated by Delta Air Lines, but it will no longer operate as part of the winter schedule

nebunul

July 27th, 2008, 02:15 PM

Yesterday ... pozat special pentru ...?! ;)
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/982/comc6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Cosmin

July 27th, 2008, 02:38 PM

Cool!:D Thanks for sharing.:cheers:

Two friends of mine took off for Paris - Beauvais yesterday morning. I wonder if 0B uses this 737 for flights to Paris...

Btw, comparing the offer my friends picked with the seven-day trip that I planned for September I can say that if you want to go somewhere and can plan it in advance the best way is to take the matter into your own hands, cause for the same or just slightly higher price you get a better experience.

In this case this means TAROM instead of Blue Air, CDG instead of Beauvais Tille (so 20 km from Paris instead of 75), centrally located studio instead of a hotel just 500 m from Paris' boundary and all this for just 30 EUR more. I admit that for some people self-cattering may actually seem like a bad deal, but for me it's the best deal.:yes: Also for an aviation nutjob like me, comparing Beauvais to CDG is like comparing Disneyland to the amusement park in Costineşti.:nuts: Screw agencies man!

tomis3

July 27th, 2008, 05:20 PM

Yesterday ... pozat special pentru ...?! ;)
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/982/comc6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

What a beauty. Can't wait to see the two 739 ER's. I think they should use the EU flag...it would look better with their blue and white livery.

Cosmin

July 27th, 2008, 05:58 PM

Yes, she's a beauty.:lovethem:

I don't know why Romanian airlines don't use the EU flag in addition to the RO one. I only know of Romavia using it on one or two of their aircraft.
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/8704/1262951na8.jpg

High Mileager

July 28th, 2008, 12:43 AM

Romania gives nod to airline

"The Romanian National Tourist Office has named Austrian Airlines as the designated, air carrier for travel from North America to the European nation.

According to Simion Alb, with the Romanian National Tourist Office, he has received consistently positive feedback about Austrian Airlines’ service from individuals, families, travel agents and tour operators.

“We look forward to expanding our working relationship with Austrian Airlines even further in the future to include more of continental Europe, which is well served by Austrian Airlines, as well as other global points of origin also served by the Austrian Airlines Group, such as Tokyo, Osaka, Beijing, Sydney and Kuala Lumpur,” he said.

The Romanian National Tourist Office has partnered with Austrian Airlines since 2002.

“Of course, we are pleased that Austrian Airlines has been given this preferred designation by the Romanian National Tourist Office,” said Paul Paflik of Austrian Airlines.

“Austrian Airlines has frequent service, via Vienna, to Bucharest, Cluj, Sibiu, Timisoara and Iasi.”

from RNW

PaulFCB

July 28th, 2008, 01:04 AM

Pacat insa ca trebuie sa cobori la Viena ca sa ajungi la N.Y. de exemplu. Era superb cu Tarom direct, apoi Delta, acum am inteles ca au inchis si cursa aia pentru a se indrepta pana la World Cup catre Cape Town?
Poate numai renumele destinatiei ( N.Y. ) sa scada din durerea faptului ca tre sa faci escala.

comparing Beauvais to CDG is like comparing Disneyland to the amusement park in Costineşti.:nuts: Screw agencies man!

Well you really got it there :lol:.

Also, agencies suck, when i went somewhere in Europe i looked for a place myself. So i found it nicer to stay in places like Piccadilly, Piazza Venezia, Placa Catalunya or Charles de Gaulle corner with Champs Elysee etc rather then fuck knows where the agencies would have sent me.
So nice job on finding yourself a place to stay, i guess September in Paris is much more expensive then July or August ( exception 14th of July but thats only a day ) as much as i remember from the graph on the hotel room, the ones marked with black ( most expensive ) where in September and the beginning of October. Also July might have been a excellent time to go since its beginning of the sale's and SALES including 70% and of course being the start of the season you still have big chances of finding nice things.

Cosmin

July 28th, 2008, 09:24 AM

Yes, AFAIK it's more expensive in September, but that doesn't matter now.:)

Guys, I've moved the airline related posts over from the airports thread to here.:cheers:

tomis3

July 28th, 2008, 12:21 PM

DUBLIN, July 28 (Reuters) - Low-cost airline Ryanair (RYA.I: Quote, Profile, Research) reported an 85 percent fall in first quarter net earnings and was unlikely to make any profit this year in a battle against recession and high oil prices.

Shares in Europe's largest no-frills carrier dropped 25 percent.

Ryanair said on Monday it planned to respond to the downturn in the UK and Irish economies by cutting fares more aggressively than competitors, which have less cash and need to pass on high fuel prices to passengers.

The airline said adjusted profit after tax for the three months to the end of June was 21 million euros ($33 million), well below a forecast of 48.8 million by brokerage Davy.

The adjusted figure excluded a writedown on the value of Ryanair's (RYA.L: Quote, Profile, Research) stake in Irish rival Aer Lingus (AERL.I: Quote, Profile, Research) by 93.6 million euros, reflecting recent big falls in global airline stocks.

The Dublin-based carrier said it expected a full-year result of between break-even and a loss of 60 million euros on the basis of its current fuel hedges, fourth-quarter oil prices at about $130 per barrel and average fares falling by 5 percent.

"The outlook for the remainder of the fiscal year which is entirely dependent on fares and fuel prices remains poor," Chief Executive Michael O'Leary said.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/companyOutlooksNews/idUKL852549520080728

Maybe this is why Ryan wanted or needed the 150K from Arad so badly.

tomis3

July 28th, 2008, 12:30 PM

Seems like the guys from Tarom were not lying when they said the flights to N. America were not profitable. I guess our chances of having Tarom resume flights to JFK are even slimmer now.

"The carrier currently operates to two destinations in North America: New York and Toronto. Due to rising kerosene prices, today the operational cost of making a single Budapest–New York–Budapest flight by B767 is HUF 7 million (USD 49,000) more than one year ago. The last flight on the Toronto route departs Budapest on 21 September, and the final New York service takes off from Budapest on 25 October. The major hike in expenditure makes it completely unviable for an airline the size of Malév to operate long-haul services economically. Furthermore, the present negative trends in the industry do not favour the development of the conditions necessary for a possible successful future operation."

http://www.malev.hu/BP/ENG/I_NEWS_ENG/2008-0723-1410-11ASPE.asp

Cosmin

July 28th, 2008, 01:47 PM

Buh-bye BUD-JFK and BUD-YYZ...:ohno:

CrazySerb

July 29th, 2008, 05:48 PM

tomis3

July 29th, 2008, 06:18 PM

Whats so new about this? THey did the same last year...as soon as summer ended, they cancelled their flights until the following year. Like Finnair, they are now flying only within the summer holiday season.

EDIT:
Its interesting to note that most of the people flying with Malev from Toronto to Budapest are either from northern Serbia or western Romania. I have a collegue at work who flies with them at least twice a year on her way to Oradea and she tells me that as much as 50% of the passengers on her last flight spoke Serbian.

I wonder how much success Tarom or Jat would have on the same route.

This is not temporary..they are selling their 767's. From the press release:

As part of the restructuring the airline is withdrawing its two B767s from the fleet and at the same time the loss-making long-haul routes are being closed down.

You are right about the high number of transit passengers on Malev's two transatlantic flights. I think their CEO said the around 80% of passengers did not have Budapest as their final destination.

I don't know how Tarom or Jat would do on these routes, but the news from Malev is not encouraging at all.

tomis3

July 31st, 2008, 05:05 AM

Adevarul published this article twice: first on July 16 and again today (with the same bombastic title: Tarom zboara spre faliment).

The journalist, Valeria Cupa, obviously does not know much about Tarom or the English language . She says that Tarom will buy "another two ATR 72's..Tarom does not have any 72's but rather 42's. Anyway, I hope this is just a piece of sloppy journalism. Does anyone know more? I haven’t seen anything on zf.ro for example.

According to company sources, Tarom registered over 30 million dollar losses in the first six months of the year. Tarom representatives evaded an official reply to the matter.

Marketing director, Sorin Georgescu, said he didn’t know the exact amount of the loss and that "the real losses will be known only at the end of the year". He specified that all air companies confront with a bad financial situation because of the oil’s raise in price and supply’s global crisis.

In this context, Tarom decided to purchase another two airships (ATR 72) within the next two years. These are going to be used for internal and local routes.

The company aims at reaching 40 airships, from the 20 that it posses at the moment, in the next four years, in order to keep up with market share.

Cosmin

July 31st, 2008, 09:56 AM

In this context, Tarom decided to purchase another two airships
Good choice. Airships are the future.:yes::nuts:
Hey, they could do New York with those two airships! Great news!:banana:
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/9262/ussakronmanhattanxe3.jpg

Le Clerk

July 31st, 2008, 12:45 PM

They better not fly that ship over my block. I have some neighbours with guns who do not appreciate noise. :lol:

Free_flow77

July 31st, 2008, 07:43 PM

Zboruri zilnice spre Viena incepand cu 15 septembrie.

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/582/picture033co4.jpg

Cosmin

August 4th, 2008, 10:16 AM

Fortunatley this is not about Romania, but it's still bad news.:(
50 de companii aeriene europene, pe cale să dea faliment

Între operatorii care riscă un dezastru financiar în următoarele luni se numără Alitalia, Olympic Airlines (Grecia), Malev (Ungaria), Lot (Polonia), dar şi SAS (cu capital danez, norvegian şi suedez)

Iarna 2008/2009 ameninţă să aducă falimentul pentru circa 50 de operatori aerieni din Europa, date fiind creşterile neîntrerupte ale preţutilor la combustibil, avertizează un raport al companiei de investiţiii britanice Blue Oar. Documentul relevă că industria transporturilor aviatice trece prin cea mai întunecată perioadă din istorie, din care marii operatori de-abia vor supravieţui, pe când companiile mici (dintre care foarte multe şi aşa nu rezistă pe piaţă decât datorită unor subvenţii guvernamentale) ar putea primi „lovitura de graţie” în această iarnă. Potrivit expertului Blue Oar intervievat de The Times, falimentul este tot mai posibil după un sezon turistic foarte prost, în care operatorii aerieni au vândut mai puţine bilete decât în alţi ani.

La fel ca operatorii din turism, multe companii aeriene reuşesc să-şi acopere costurile din timpul iernii pe baza veniturilor din sezonul estival. Numai că, în vara aceasta (când preţul barilului la petrol a crescut cu circa 30-40 dolari în câteva săptămâni) o companie profitabilă precum British Airways (BA) s-a văzut cu profiturile diminuate cu 90 la sută pe ultimele trei luni. Pentru că a ajuns să plătească opt milioane de lire pentru combiustibil pe zi, BA a mărit de trei ori preţurile în 2008 şi şi-a redus capacitatea de transport pe unele rute.

Or, cu atât mai greu le va fi să-şi revină unui sezon turistic dezastruos unor companii precum Alitalia, salvată printr-un ajutor de stat oferit de către Cabinetul Berlusconi, în ciuda protestelor Comisiei Europene, că practica ar încălca legislaţia comunitară privind libera competiţie. Alte companii ameninţate cu falimentul sunt Olympic Airlines (Grecia), Malev (Ungaria), Lot (Polonia), dar şi SAS (cu capital danez, norvegian şi suedez). Deocamdată, nicio companie europeană de profil nu a intrat în procedura falimentului, însă anul 2008 a adus peste 20 de falimente în domeniu în restul lumii.

Atenţie la rezervările cu luni înainte!
Dat fiind faptul că, în perioada iernii, mai multe companii vor renunţa la zeci de zboruri neprofitabile, The Times le pune în vedere pasagerilor să fie mai circumspecţi în a-şi face rezervări cu luni înainte pe care este posibil ca operatorii să nu fie în măsură să le onoreze. Pe de o parte, s-ar putea ca multe companii să renunţe la anumite curse. Pe de alta, chiar dacă zborurile respective vor mai fi operaţionale, ele ar putea fi însoţite de „suprataxe”. De pildă, pentru zborurile sale pe cele mai lungi distanţe (curse intercontinentale), pasagerul este nevoit să plătescă o suprataxă de 218 lire.

O nouă oportunitate pentru companiile low-cost
Deşi toţi operatorii aerieni se confruntă cu aceleaşi creşteri de preţuri la combustibil, compania britanică Ryanair se aşteaptă la vremuri bune chiar şi în aceste condiţii. „Nu o vom duce groaznic de rău câtă vreme oferim cele mai mici preţuri din Europa”, se lăuda directorul companiei, Michael O’Leary, reporterilor The Times. Deşi atâtea alte companii sunt ameninţate cu falimentul, Ryanair şi-a propus să crească numărul de pasageri de la 51 la 58 milioane, dar şi să-şi menţină strategia de marketing ca, în ciuda creşterilor de preţ la combustibil, să nu le impună clienţilor „suprataxe”. Astfel, în plină recesiune pentru industira transportului aerian, Ryanair va lansa, în septembrie, un milion de bilete de o liră sterlină (pasagerul urmând să plătească doar taxele de aeroport).
Gândul (http://www.gandul.info/europa/50-de-companii-aeriene-europene-pe-cale-sa-dea-faliment.html?3930;2847234)

Cosmin

August 4th, 2008, 10:25 AM

Old aircraft leave TAROM without profit. Two new ATR-72 to join the fleet in 2009-2010.
Avioanele vechi lasă Tarom fără profit

Cu aeronave uzate moral, compania face greu faţă concurenţei şi ar putea intra pe pierderi. Avioanele celorlalţi consumă cu o treime mai puţin.

Compania naţională Tarom, posesoare a unei flote modelul anilor ‘90, ar putea înregistra anul acesta pierderi după ce preţul carburanţilor aproape că s-a dublat în ultimul an. Pentru a compensa creşterea acestor costuri, compania ar avea nevoie de venituri mai mari din operare. Acestea sunt totuşi greu de obţinut, căci concurenţa Tarom poate găsi mai uşor clienţi, datorită aeronavelor noi, mai economice, cu costuri mai mici.

Şefii Tarom spun că sunt nevoiţi să plătească dublu pentru carburanţi faţă de anul trecut. Aceasta reprezintă o problemă în condiţiile în care consumul de carburanţi ajunge să deţină 35-40% din totalul costurilor, faţă de 16-20%, anul trecut.

„În 2007, în această perioadă, preţul barilului era 70 de dolari, în timp ce acum este 127 de dolari. Aproape s-a dublat“, spune Sorin Georgescu, director de marketing al companiei. Problema carburanţilor este una acută pentru Tarom deoarece, spre deosebire de alte linii aeriene, linia aeriană naţională nu şi-a negociat contracte de cumpărare a carburanţilor cu preţuri ferme pe mai mulţi ani, după modelul Air France sau Lufthansa, şi nici nu are aeronave din seriile noi Airbus sau Boeing, cu un consum sensibil mai mic decât aeronavele Tarom din vechea generaţie. Dacă modelele de aeronave deţinute de Tarom datează cam din anii ‘90, unele linii aeriene care concurează cu linia aeriană naţională şi-au cumpărat avioane noi, iar acum operează cu succes rute pe care zboară şi Tarom. Pe Bucureşti-Madrid, Tarom trebuie să facă faţă operatorului britanic low-fare EasyJet, care a intrat anul trecut pe piaţa românească. „Şi noi, şi ei zburăm la Madrid. Noi avem zboruri şi de la Cluj, iar EasyJet vrea să mărească de la patru la şapte numărul zborurilor săptămânale. EasyJet are, în schimb, aeronave Airbus A320 care consumă cu 30% mai puţin carburant decât aeronavele noastre Boeing 737-300. Noua serie 737-800 de la Boeing ar consuma chiar mai puţin. La un factor de încărcare normal aceasta înseamnă costuri cu 15% mai mari la noi“, spune directorul de marketing. Potrivit acestuia, multe linii aeriene lasă la sol aeronavele Boeing 737-300, din motive de consum.

Sorin Georgescu crede că acum este momentul propice ca Tarom să achiziţioneze noi aeronave şi să renunţe la cele vechi. Deocamdată au fost cumpărate două aeronave ATR 72, care vor intra în flotă în perioada 2009-2010, şi care vor fi folosite pe rute interne. Acestea se vor adăuga celor şapte ATR 42 de care dispune deja. „Nu sunt jet-uri rapide, dar sunt foarte eficiente pe distanţe scurte. Probabil le vom introduce pe Cluj sau Timişoara“, spune directorul de marketing. Pentru achiţionarea de avioane destinate zborurilor, Tarom intenţionează să speculeze situaţia dificilă în care se găsesc sau în care vor intra cât de curând mai multe linii aeriene europene, în special low-cost. Acestea au tocmite astfel de aeronave, dar nu şi le vor mai permite, ca urmare a unei crize a creditului şi a carburanţilor, sesizabile deja. În general, pentru achiziţionarea unei aeronave Boeing sau Airbus, o linie aeriană trebuie să se înscrie pe o listă de aşteptare, iar livrarea aeronavelor durează cel puţin cinci ani. „Principala problemă este găsirea lor. O bună parte dintre companiile ae-riene, inclusiv unele care au comandat astfel de aeronave, vor avea dificultăţi financiare şi s-ar putea să renunţe la achiziţii. Tarom are totuşi o poziţie solidă şi de aceea producătorii ar fi interesaţi să ofere aeronavele disponibilizate. Avem nevoie de mult mai multe aeronave decât avem acum“, spune Sorin Georgescu.

Tarom s-ar putea să nu mai vadă nici un profit în acest an, comparativ cu anul trecut, când de bine, de rău a câştigat patru milioane de dolari. Pentru 2008, Tarom este într-un echilibru fragil. „Estimăm vânzări de 400 de milioane de dolari pentru acest an, reprezentând o creştere cu aproape 20% faţă de anul trecut“, afirmă Georgescu. Sporul ar putea fi insuficient, în condiţiile în care costurile cu carburanţii sunt şi ele cu 20% mai mari decât anul trecut, în aceeaşi perioadă, iar evoluţia acestora până la finele anului este necunoscută.

Tarom operează cu o flotă de 21 de aparate, patru aeronave Boeing 737-300, patru aeronave Boeing 737-700, şapte ATR 42-500, patru Airbus A318 şi două Airbus A310. Anul trecut, compania aeriană naţională a transportat circa 1,9 milioane de călători.
Cotidianul (http://www.cotidianul.ro/avioanele_vechi_lasa_tarom_fara_profit-53855.html)

tomis3

August 5th, 2008, 05:10 PM

Source: hotnews.ro

Blue Air va furniza servicii de transport aerian companiei Posta Romana pentru 44,8 milioane euro

Posta Romana a achizitionat prin Bursa Romana de Marfuri servicii de transport aerian si handling de la Blue Air, in urma unei licitatii al carei criteriu de atribuire a fost "pretul cel mai scazut", se arata intr-un comunicat al BRM. Valoarea contractului, care a fost incheiat pe o durata de 3,5 ani, este de peste 44,8 milioane de euro.

Bursa Romana de Marfuri a desfasurat, in calitate de consultant - organizator, procedura de licitatie deschisa pentru achizitionarea acestor servicii, prin constituirea unei platforme de schimb aeriene pe Aeroportul Otopeni sau pe Aeroportul Baneasa.

La aceasta licitatie au putut depune oferte firmele al caror bilant contabil arata o cifra de afaceri de minimum 12,5 milioane de euro in 2007. Garantia de participare la licitatie este de 3,15 milioane de lei (900.000 euro).

In data de 10 iunie, Posta Romana a anuntat ca va achizitiona servicii de transport aerian pentru imbunatatirea calitatii serviciilor postale si indeplinirea conditiilor de calitate recomandate de ANRCTI. In urma acestei investitii, 85% din expedierile de corespondenta interna prioritare vor ajunge la destinatie dupa numai o zi.

#Alex

August 5th, 2008, 05:39 PM

S.N. Aeroportul International Mihail Kogalniceanu - Constanta S.A. , Blue Air, Consiliul Judetean Constanta si Primaria Municipiului Constanta au placerea sa va invite la Conferinta de Presa din data de 5 august 2008, in cadrul acesteia fiind prezentate noile curse cu plecare din Constanta.

mk-airport.ro

Cred ca e vorba de Constanta-Bruxelles si Constanta-Bucuresti

Şase sute de turişti belgieni până la finalul sezonului şi peste trei mii anul viitor. Sunt estimările unei agenţii de turism belgiene care a început să opereze din nou pe litoral o dată cu introducerea cursei Blue Air Constanţa - Bruxelles şi retur. Şi estimările conducerii aeroportului mihail kogălniceanu sunt optimiste: 90 de mii de pasageri până la finalul anului, adică dublu faţă de 2007. 24 de agenţi de turism belgieni şi patru jurnalişti au vizitat litoralul românesc zilele acestea şi se întorc acasă cu gândul să-l promoveze. Traseul turiştilor belgieni care vor dori să petreacă vacanţa pe costa Mării Negre este simplu, începând de luna aceasta. Compania low cost Blue Air a introdus cursa Constanţa – Bruxelles şi retur care decolează şi aterizează de pe aeroportul Mihail Kogălniceanu, în fiecare marţi. Tarifele pornesc de la 1 euro, plus taxe. Blue Air este a doua companie low cost, după Ryan Air care operează de pe Mihail Kogălniceanu, după ce 20 la sută din acţiunile aeroportului au trecut la Consiliul Judeţean Constanţa. Directorul de Dezvoltare al Aeroportului, Constantin Teodorescu, spune că estimează pentru anul acesta cel puţin 90 de mii de pasageri pe Mihail Kogălniceanu, dublu faţă de anul trecut.

tvneptun.ro

joce23

August 6th, 2008, 10:31 AM

Tarom is the most punctual european airline: Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/2507646/British-Airways-record-for-lost-bags-and-late-planes.html) :cheers:

tomis3

August 7th, 2008, 05:33 PM

Source: zf.ro

Compania aeriana low-cost Wizz Air va deschide in primavara anului viitor a treia baza operationala din Romania, la Timisoara, pentru care va investi 100 de milioane de euro in urmatorii trei ani, a anuntat astazi compania.

In urmatorii trei ani, compania va aloca trei aeronave noi Airbus A320 pentru baza din Timisoara si va recruta peste 100 de angajati, investitia depasind 100 milioane de euro", se arata intr-un comunicat al Wizz Air .

"Timisoara va deveni a treia baza operationala Wizz Air in Romania. Cu 22 de zboruri saptamanale, Wizz Air va deveni cea mai mare companie low cost din Banat, oferind pasagerilor din regiune cele mai numeroase zboruri si cea mai mare capacitate de transport", a declarat John Stephenson, Chief Commercial Officer al Wizz Air.

tomis3

August 7th, 2008, 05:35 PM

Source: tmctv.ro

România nu pare afectată de problemele sectorului transportatorilor aerieni. Tarom a transportat în primele şase luni peste 871 de mii de pasageri, în creştere cu 15,8% faţă de aceeaşi perioadă a anului trecut iar Aeroportul Băneasa anunţă o creştere a traficului cu 30%, în ultimele două luni.

Potrivit unui raport al Asociaţiei Companiilor Aeriene Europene, Tarom a ocupat locul şapte printre companiile de profil din Europa, din punct de vedere al ratei de creştere din primul semestru. Gradul mediu de ocupare a fost de 61%, în scădere cu 4,8 puncte procentuale faţă de aceeaşi perioadă a anului trecut.

Din punct de vedere al numărului de pasageri transportaţi, operatorul român ocupă locul 22 între cei 32 de membri ai Asociaţiei Companiilor Aeriene Europene. Cele mai mari companii, după numărul pasagerilor transportaţi, sunt Lufthansa, Air France şi British Airways. Pe de altă parte, Aeroportul Băneasa a avut în iunie şi iulie un trafic cu 30% mai mare decât în aceeaşi perioadă din 2007, anunţă NewsIn.

tomis3

August 7th, 2008, 05:50 PM

Source: wizzair.com

Wizz Air, the largest low-fare low-cost airline based in Central and Eastern Europe announced at a press conference today that it would open its 10th operating base in Timisoara, Romania in March 2009. The airline plans to deploy three new A320 aircraft and employ over 100 staff in Timisoara in the next three years, representing an investment of well over €100 million. Timisoara will be the airline’s 3rd operating base in Romania after Bucharest and Cluj.
Already in December the airline will launch flights to London, Rome and Dortmund 3 times a week each, going up to 4 from 11 March 2009. Also, there will be 5 new routes introduced concurrently with the new base opening in March 2009.

Tickets are already on sale with one-way all-inclusive fares starting from as low as EUR 23.99 for the Rome Fiumicino, Milan Bergamo, Venice Treviso, from EUR 26.99 for the Dortmund, Valencia, Barcelona and Paris Beauvais flights and from EUR 28.99 for the London Luton flights on wizzair.com and via call center by calling 0903 760 100 (in Romania).
"Timisoara will become Wizz Air's third operating base in Romania. With 22 weekly flights we will become the largest low cost airline offering the most routes and the biggest capacity to passengers travelling to/from the Banat region. Wizz Air has been proving its commitment to the Romanian market by opening new bases, routes, and basing new aircraft in the market. We are well on track to become the leading low cost airline in the country shortly” - said John Stephenson, Chief Commercial Officer of Wizz Air.”
Marian Chivu, Operational Director of Timisoara Airport added: “One of the objectives of the AIT board is the continuous development. Our aim is the constant growth in terms of passenger number, and route development inside and also outside the European Union, according to the market’s demand. We want to get more and more airline companies to operate from the largest regional airport in Romania that is one of the most modern airports in the country benefiting from the latest infrastructure of the airline industry.
The presence of a low cost company that operates in Timisoara is an attractive feature, both for passengers and travel agencies as there is a huge demand for that. Timisoara International Airport is open to any company interested in starting collaboration, if it rises up to the necessary standards.
Our opinion is that the presence of Wizz Air in Timisoara will be a good alternative not only for the community but also for the airport commercially, economically and financially as well.”
Concurrently with the new base opening the airline announced that effective from 25 August it will suspend its Cluj-Bucharest flights for the winter season and will re-open it next summer.

COTNARI

August 7th, 2008, 06:49 PM

Tarom (http://www.tarom.ro/en/) finally changed their website. And now you can book on line.

tomis3

August 7th, 2008, 07:02 PM

Tarom (http://www.tarom.ro/en/) finally changed their website. And now you can book on line.

But they kept the overall crappy look of the site.

Cosmin

August 7th, 2008, 07:09 PM

^^WTF?!:? Nothing's changed with TAROM's website, guys. And online booking is available for ages. Are these really today's posts or is the server screwed up again?:shifty:

COTNARI

August 7th, 2008, 07:29 PM

^^WTF?!:? Nothing's changed with TAROM's website, guys. And online booking is available for ages. Are these really today's posts or is the server screwed up again?:shifty:

ok ! if you say so! Looks new to me.... but last time I've checked it was stone age. You know me, I'm a low cost freak :lol:, so this was long long time ago

tomis3

August 11th, 2008, 05:53 PM

Source: cotidianul.ro

Compania naţională aeriană Tarom a înregistrat în primul semestru al anului un profit minim brut cifrat la peste un milion de euro şi care, chiar dacă nu se va menţine până la finele anului, nu pune în pericol soliditatea companiei. „Rezultatele primului semestru au fost pozitive, chiar dacă au fost inferioare celor de anul trecut. Aceasta deoarece preţul carburantului a ajuns la 40% din totalul costurilor, comparativ cu un nivel de 20% anul trecut. În plus, pentru a doua parte a anului s-ar putea vedea efectele unor creşteri ale costurilor cu celelalte servicii, cum ar fi cele de handling, survol, operare pe aeroporturi”, a declarat pentru Cotidianul, conducerea companiei.

La prima vedere şi fără a analiza datele corelat cu costurile, rezultatele sunt superioare celor de anul trecut. Potrivit oficialilor Tarom, cifra de afaceri pe primele şase luni ale acestui an a fost de 193,5 milioane de dolari, cu peste 20% mai mult decât nivelul de 161,5 milioane de dolari înregistrat în perioada corespunzătoare din 2007. Pentru întregul an sunt estimate venituri cifrate la 450 de milioane de dolari.

La mijlocul anului, cu excepţia gradului de încărcare a aeronavelor care a scăzut cu cinci la sută faţă de anul trecut, rezultatele de trafic sunt pozitive. Potrivit cifrelor oficiale, în primul semestru, pe rute externe regulate, au fost transportaţi 641.519 pasageri, în creştere cu 10% faţă de nivelul de 582.599 înregistrat în perioada corespunzătoare a anului 2007. Pe rutele interne regulate creşterea a fost chiar mai mare. Tarom a transportat 230.061 pasageri, cu 35% mai mult decât nivelul de 169.883 pasageri din primele şase luni ale anului trecut. Creşterea curselor charter (închiriate de către agenţiile de turism) a fost de 14%, iar majorarea medie, pe toate tipurile de curse, s-a cifrat la 16%.

Gradul de încărcare a aeronavelor a crescut cu 2% pe cursele interne, dar s-a redus cu 5%, la 60,4%, pe cele externe, în total fiind înregistrată o diminuare de 5%. Nivelul este cu aproape 20% mai mic celui înregistrat de cele mai performante linii aeriene regulate, spre exemplu Lufthansa sau Air France-KLM, care au avut în primele şase luni ale anului aeronavele ocupate în proporţie de 77-78%. Acesta a fost de altfel unul dintre motivele criticii aduse Tarom recent în anumite publicaţii.

Conducerea companiei aeriene nu este de acord. Aceasta spune că reducerea gradului de încărcare nu a fost cauzată de un dezinteres sporit al pasagerilor faţă de serviciile companiei, ci mai degrabă de creşterea capacităţii de operare a Tarom în ultimul an, în urma unei politici de dezvoltare a companiei. Mai precis, creşterea numărului de pasageri a fost inferioară celei de capacitate, şi de aici un factor de încărcare mai mic, cum acesta este raportul celor doi indicatori.

„Faţă de ianuarie 2007, în ianuarie 2008 capacitatea aeronavelor Tarom a crescut cu 37%, iar în iunie 2008 cu 47-50%, deci aproape s-a dublat”, spune Gheorghe Bârlă, director general al companiei. În plus, Tarom nu se poate compara cu „giganţi” europeni precum Lufthansa, AirFrance, KLM, care obţin un grad ridicat de încărcare, ca urmare a zborurilor profitabile de conexiune şi lung curier care deţin 70% în activitatea acestora, dar doar 30% în cazul Tarom.

În pofida rezultatelor dificile pentru acest an, situaţie întâlnită şi în cazul celorlalte linii aeriene, Tarom are planuri mari, concretizate în consolidarea brandului, modernizarea flotei, dezvoltarea serviciilor în conformitate cu standardele SkyTeam, alianţă în care linia aeriană a intrat recent.

„Veţi merge oriunde, la Kuala Lumpur, Myanmar şi veţi vedea că singurul lucru cunoscut despre România nu sunt camioanele Roman, tractoarele noastre, ci Tarom. Avem o politică de dezvoltare a acestei companii solide”, spune directorul general. Oricare ar fi rezultatele acestui an, compania va avea disponibilităţi pentru plata în acest an a unui avans cifrat la 5% din valoarea celor două aeronave ATR 72, care vor mări, din 2009, flota Tarom. Noi achiziţii sunt aşteptate.

Aceasta deoarece cu actualele aeronave Tarom face greu faţă concurenţei. Spre exemplu, potrivit conducerii Tarom, aeronavele Boeing 737-800, folosite de Turkish Airlines pe Bucureşti-Istanbul, relaţie pe care zboară şi Tarom, au un cost de zbor cu doar 1.000 de dolari mai mare decât aeronavele Boeing 737-300 ale Tarom, însă au o capacitate cu 40 de locuri mai mare. Situaţia se întâlneşte şi în cazul altui competitor Tarom, anume Blue Air, ale cărui aeronave Boeing 737-900 au o capacitate cu 75% mai mare decât clasicul Boeing deţinut de linia aeriană naţională.

Potrivit publicaţiei „Times Online” liniile aeriene vor avea de înfruntat în iarna care urmează o criză importantă, ca urmare a creşterii preţului la carburanţi. Aceasta ar putea provoca falimentul a nu mai puţin de 50 de linii aeriene. Analişti ai industriei afirmă că cele mai afectate vor fi liniile aeriene slabe, lovite de preţurile în creştere la biletele de avion şi de situaţia economică înrăutăţită. Opiniile sunt împărtăşite şi de conducerea Tarom. „Piaţa va fi curăţată de companii slabe.

Multe dintre acestea au comandat aeronave într-o perioadă bună pentru aviaţie, respectiv anii 2004-2005, însă aeronavele le-au sosit acum, când preţul petrolului este mult mai mare. Vor face faţă cu greu noii realităţi”, spune Gheorghe Bârlă. Douglas McNeil, analist la Blue Oar investments, crede că mai mult de 50 de linii aeriene europene sunt în pericol.

Lista acestuia, inclusă în raportul industriei, Into Thin Air (În aerul subţire - n.red.), afirmă că printre companiile în pericol sunt SAS (Scandinavia), Alitalia (Italia), Olympic (Grecia), Malev (Ungaria) şi Lot (Polonia). Alte linii britanice mici, precum BMI, Flybe sau Monarchsunt, sunt de asemenea ameninţate. Chiar dacă nu vor dispărea, linii mari, precum Air France-KLM, au o situaţie mai proastă decât anul trecut. În primul trimestru al anului fiscal curent compania a raportat un profit de 59,4% faţă de cel din perioada corepunzătoare a anului trecut, cu 168 milioane de euro mai puţin.

COTNARI

August 11th, 2008, 06:42 PM

Finally Carpatair (http://www.carpatair.com/Flight_Info/Carpatair_Destinations/) has an online booking system....

:banana:

LE:

Not bad: Timisoara-Odessa

Wednesday 3 Sep Timisoara Odessa 15:00 16:30 V3 823
Thursday 11 Sep Odessa Timisoara 06:30 08:05 V3 822

Price
Passengers: Fare: Taxes: Price:
Adult EUR 100,00 EUR 70,93 EUR 170,93
Total cost: EUR 170,93

Cosmin

August 11th, 2008, 08:52 PM

...and a new site! This time you got it right, Cotnari.:lol::cheers: Finally they decided they're serious about their website. Took 'em long enough...:nuts:

Thanks for the "tip".;)

Le Clerk

August 12th, 2008, 01:35 PM

Business Standard
08 august 2008

Wizz Air to invest €100 million in Romania

Low-cost Wizz Air, one of the top three operators locally, is to invest in excess of €100 million in its operating base in the western city of Timisoara, in the coming three years.

The operational base will be opened next spring. According to company representatives, funds will be used to acquire three new Airbus A320 aircraft and to recruit some 100 employees.

Several other low-cost operators have recently announced investments in aircraft, to increase air traffic and reduce fuel consumption.

As of December 2008, Wizz Air will operate flights from Timisoara to London, Rome and Dortmund, three times per week. As of March 11, 2009, flights will increase to four times a week. Once the operating base in Timisoara is open, five new flights to Milan, Barcelona, Paris, Valencia and Venice will be launched.

“The presence of a low-cost company in Timisoara will bring an attractiveness plus for both passengers and travel agencies. Demand for such air services is increasing,” company officials said.

Other major low-cost operators in Romania are Blue Air, MyAir, SkyEurope, Germanwings, easyJet, and Ryanair.

tomis3

August 12th, 2008, 04:34 PM

^^

I posted this last week. Post #184 and 186

Cosmin

August 14th, 2008, 12:05 PM

Carpatair presentation movie (http://www.carpatair.com/About_us/Company_profile/Company%20presentation%20movie/):)

nebunul

August 14th, 2008, 12:21 PM

^^ Really naisssssss :banana:

tomis3

August 14th, 2008, 04:44 PM

Aviation porn.

nebunul

August 14th, 2008, 04:48 PM

^^ true but badly needed ... just imagine what the average American knows about A Romania airline ... mmhhmh nothing ...or maybe third word planes and services :nuts: So they've got the infrastructure; now it's time for marketing :cheers:

tomis3

August 14th, 2008, 05:05 PM

Is it true that Carpat has leased out its three Fokker 100's?

nebunul

August 14th, 2008, 05:07 PM

^^ Saab2000
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/2237/aaadz5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://news.carrentals.co.uk/malev-expands-service-to-romania-3421327.html

They only got 3 fokker100 ... so it's kinda hard to lease any of them :)

tomis3

August 14th, 2008, 05:37 PM

YR-FKA leased to Adria Airways (Slovenia)

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/9/1/2/1377219.jpg

CrazySerb

August 15th, 2008, 05:52 AM

I'm trying to get a sense of the airline sector in Romania, as compared to Serbia/ex-Yugoslavia region - due to the similar history/economy/population/etc, its a comparison that makes the most sense.

Noticed on the previous page that TAROM transported about 900k passengers in the first six (seven?) months...so I'm wondering, how did the other domestic airlines, such as Carpatair, fare?

Of the four largest airlines operating today in former Yugoslavia...

- Slovenia's Adria Airways transported 757k passengers in the first seven months, growth of 23% y/y.
- Croatia Airlines reached the one million mark on July 23rd, a full eighteen days earlier than last year.
- Montenegro Airlines had 200.000 passengers so far this year, a growth of over 20%
- Serbia's Jat Airways carried 780k passengers during the first seven months.

Macedonia's MAT and Bosnia's BH Airlines combined for another ~130k passengers - 100k by MAT and the rest carried by BH.

So we're guessing that by years end, this region's airlines will have carried anywhere between 5.5 and 6 million passengers.

tomis3

August 15th, 2008, 07:18 AM

Tarom transported 871k passengers during the first 6 months of '08 (15% growth).

Carpat is forecasting around 620k for all of 08' (had 563k in '07)

Blue Air, I think, will have around 1.5 million passengers by year end.

So, the grand (forecasted) total should be around 4 million.

joce23

August 18th, 2008, 10:49 AM

Global Aviation Network operates new low-cost flights to Italy
http://www.nineoclock.ro/index.php?page=detalii&categorie=business&id=20080818-513229

Italian airline Global Aviation Network in August started operating two weekly flights between Bucharest-Baneasa and Salerno, Italy, according to a press release to AGERPRES issued on Saturday. The two low-cost flights per week were introduced to meet the very big demand for economy plane fares in conditions of safety and comfort to and from Italy, the company explains in its press release. The flights will be operated by a BAE-146 aircraft Mondays and Thursday, in keeping with the following time-table: Salerno - Bucharest Baneasa 11h30 – 14h15, Bucharest Baneasa – Salerno 15h15 – 16h00. Tickets are available at the ticketing counter at the Baneasa Airport or on-line on www.flightonline.it or www.volasalerno.it.

joce23

August 19th, 2008, 07:32 AM

A new airline

Investment. The owners of travel agencies Kusadasi and Fibula Air Travel, the Yapici family, are expanding their business by founding a passenger air transport company, following an investment of around six million euros.

"We set up Air Bucharest Air Transport through an investment of nearly six million euros. We have not yet determined on what route we will operate, certainly is that we will fly from the Baneasa airport", said, Monday, the owner of the transport operator, Hasan Yapici, quoted by Mediafax. The company will operate from March next year, with two passenger aircraft leased from a company from New Zealand.
... http://www.evz.ro/articole/detalii-articol/817120/A-new-airline/

Cosmin

August 19th, 2008, 09:53 AM

Air Bucharest? Copycat of Air Berlin?:lol: Good news though, the more, the merrier.:banana:

Cosmin

August 20th, 2008, 10:25 AM

Few people know that we once had not just one, but two Romanian airlines flying over the Atlantic. One was of course TAROM. The other was Jaro, which operated from Băneasa between 1991 and 2001

History
Jaro started operations in 1991 at Aurel Vlaicu International Airport, Bucharest second airport, with one Boeing 707. In the same year, Jaro International started services to JFK International Airport, being the first Romanian airline apart TAROM to fly over the Atlantic. In July 1997 the airline introduced weekly flights between Aurel Vlaicu International Airport and Montreal-Mirabel International Airport and between Aurel Vlaicu International Airport and Toronto Pearson International Airport, where they stayed until 2000, when they renounced these routes because of the high competition of TAROM which was operating at Dorval and Pearson. In September 2001, the airline declared bankruptcy and made its last long haul flight and its last one from New York.

Services
In July 1997, Jaro was flying to 3 intercontinental destinations and 17 European destinations :

North America: Montreal, New York and Toronto

Europe: Bucharest, Düsseldorf, Vienna, Frankfurt, Girona, Hanover, London, Ostend (cargo only), Hamburg, Skopje, Palma de Mallorca, Berlin, Malta, Cologne, Southend (cargo only), Stockholm

Fleet (at July 2000)
3 x Boeing 707 (one cargo)
2 x BAC 1-11
1 x Yakovlev Yak-42

Jaro Boeing 707 landing at Toronto-Pearson (July 1997)
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Cosmin

August 25th, 2008, 12:55 AM

Isn't she a beauty?:drool:
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/7061/1384095dz6.jpg
Seen here landing in Corfu.

And some of Jet Train Air (http://www.jetranair.ro/). They have one MD-81, six MD-82s and one MD-83.
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http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/4916/1051746kf6.jpg
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/8797/1075139dp8.jpg
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/3451/1119663jb0.jpg
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Cosmin

August 25th, 2008, 11:03 AM

Carpatair lanseaza din 15 septembrie ruta Constanta - Viena - Constanta

Linia aeriana Carpatair va lansa din 15 septembrie ruta Constanta - Viena - Constanta, potrivit reprezentantilor aeroportului Mihail Kogalniceanu.
Zborul zilnic va conecta 14 destinatii din Romania (Bacau, Bucuresti, Cluj, Constanta, Craiova, Iasi, Oradea, Sibiu, Suceava si Timisoara), Republica Moldova (Chisinau) si Ucraina (Lviv, Odessa si Kiev).

Zborul va opera din Constanta spre Timisoara si apoi spre Viena, iar retur din Viena catre Timisoara si apoi spre Constanta.
DailyBusiness (http://www.dailybusiness.ro/stiri-turism/carpatair-lanseaza-din-15-septembrie-ruta-constanta-viena-constanta-16435)

joce23

August 25th, 2008, 12:21 PM

^^
Voestalpine is welcome to take Viena-Constanta flight ! :cheers::lol:

Le Clerk

August 25th, 2008, 12:24 PM

^^ :lol: Or take a cruise on the Danube-Black Sea canal. :okay:

tomis3

August 25th, 2008, 12:36 PM

^^
Voestalpine is welcome to take Viena-Constanta flight ! :cheers::lol:

How fast do these SAAB 2000's fly? Doesn't a Viena-Constanta flight take 1-2 days?

Cosmin

August 25th, 2008, 12:41 PM

It would take 1,5-2h with a SAAB 2000. Maximum crusing speed is around 660-680 km/h.
The Saab 2000 is one of the fastest turboprop airplanes in existence; it is able to cruise at a speed of over 665 km/h (360 kt). It is a stretched version of the Saab 340.

I look on their site and it seems to be comprised of two flights, not a direct flight that has a stop-over in TSR, as the article would lead you to believe. They actually advertise this as TSR-VIE flight.
Starting with the 15th of September 2008, Carpatair inaugurates direct flights Timisoara – Vienna.
The new service will be available daily except Sundays as follows:

Timisoara - Vienna 08:40 – 08:40 local time
Vienna – Timisoara 09:55 – 11:55 local time

The new air link will connect the capital city of Austria to the entire Carpatair route network in Romania - Timisoara, Bucuresti, Bacau, Cluj, Constanta, Oradea, Craiova, Satu-Mare, Suceava, Iasi and Sibiu, in Ukraine with Kiev, Odessa and Lviv and in Moldova with Chisinau.
I also checked CND-TSR-VIE and it takes 3h 10 min with changing in TSR. Prices start at 160 EUR for a round-trip.

joce23

August 26th, 2008, 12:24 AM

How fast do these SAAB 2000's fly? Doesn't a Viena-Constanta flight take 1-2 days?

Carpatair will operate daily flights between Viena and Constanta (via Timisoara) following this schedule:

Constanţa (6:30) – Timişoara (8:10) – Viena (8:40)

Viena (9:55) – Timişoara (11:55) – Timişoara (15:05) – Constanţa (16:55).

tomis3

August 26th, 2008, 12:33 AM

Carpatair will operate daily flights between Viena and Constanta (via Timisoara) following this schedule:

Constanţa (6:30) – Timişoara (8:10) – Viena (8:40)

Viena (9:55) – Timişoara (11:55) – Timişoara (15:05) – Constanţa (16:55).

I was kidding....I'm just not a big fan of turboprops...(Except maybe for the ATR 72). I'd like to see Carpat buy some jets...maybe B 737 or A320's.

Cosmin

August 26th, 2008, 12:46 AM

Probably something like Bombardier or Embraer RJs would be better for Carpatair at this moment. But they have Fokkers and one Avro.

tomis3

August 26th, 2008, 12:51 AM

Probably something like Bombardier or Embraer RJs would be better for Carpatair at this moment. But they have Fokkers and one Avro.

Fokker's are old and not at all cost efficient these days. If they want to be taken seriously, they need some Boeing or Airbus jets.

Cosmin

August 26th, 2008, 12:58 AM

RichKid_01

August 26th, 2008, 07:32 AM

So Austrian Arrows is not serious?! They have 23 Fokkers (70 and 100). The rest are different versions of Bombardier Dash 8 and they also have 13 CRJ-200s.

Carpatair is more like Austrian Arrows (regional airline) now then it is in that of Austrian Airlines. But yeah, I do hope they keep on growing, and extend their current portfolio of destinations, but more aircraft (even if they are just SAABs and Fokkers for the moment) and maybe one day they'll even surpass TAROM in fleet size, number of destinations and no. of transported pax. It wouldn't be that hard, if TAROM doesn't kick it up a notch.

What I know of Carpatair's management is encouraging...

Well in my years of travelling it is very hard for TAROM to kick it up a notch because TAROM doesnt have the authorisation to travel particular lines. Thats why TAROM is joining SkyTeam so they can travel to 800 countries with many different route patterns. I think at least one Romanian Airlines should join Star Alliance, its a fantastic alliance. Romania would benefit hugely from joining the Star Alliance. Qantas, Air New Zealand (sux) is part it is the biggest alliance in the world with around 1000 destinations and SkyTeam is behind it

Cosmin

August 26th, 2008, 10:33 AM

I agree with the above, but SkyTeam is good enough, in fact, there's not much of a difference between the two in terms of what TAROM's advantages would be, it's just a difference of size.

I'm more than happy with SkyTeam.;)

Thats why TAROM is joining SkyTeam so they can travel to 800 countries with many different route patterns.
800 countries? Are they travelling to other solar systems?!:crazy: I know you meant destinations.:D Btw...
Star Alliance: 975 destinations in 162 countries; 3,359 aircraft; 21 full members; 499.96 mil. pax/year
SkyTeam: 841 destinations in 162 countries; 2,513 aircraft; 11 full members; 427.6 mil. pax/year
Oneworld: 700 destinations in 150 countries; 2,350 aircraft; 10 full members; 333 mil. pax/year

RichKid_01

August 26th, 2008, 11:42 PM

I agree with the above, but SkyTeam is good enough, in fact, there's not much of a difference between the two in terms of what TAROM's advantages would be, it's just a difference of size.

I'm more than happy with SkyTeam.;)

800 countries? Are they travelling to other solar systems?!:crazy: I know you meant destinations.:D Btw...
Star Alliance: 975 destinations in 162 countries; 3,359 aircraft; 21 full members; 499.96 mil. pax/year
SkyTeam: 841 destinations in 162 countries; 2,513 aircraft; 11 full members; 427.6 mil. pax/year
Oneworld: 700 destinations in 150 countries; 2,350 aircraft; 10 full members; 333 mil. pax/year

I am sure in the next 15 years TAROM or at one of your airlines will compete with Qantas or one of the 4 star airlines.

Cosmin

August 27th, 2008, 02:05 AM

I am sure in the next 15 years TAROM or at one of your airlines will compete with Qantas or one of the 4 star airlines.
Yeah, sure...:nuts:
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/4362/1385420hj9.jpg
TAROM will only compete with Qantas if they launch a flight to Sidney and Qantas launched one to Bucharest. That would tehnically be competition. But the way you say it I understand you think TAROM will be somewhat on par with Qantas. I'd be happy if TAROM will be on par with LOT or Austrian 15 years from now.

RichKid_01

August 27th, 2008, 07:37 AM

Well i am sure it will happen when Romania as an EU Country gets access to the Electronic Ticket Authority (ETA) Visa Free Access to Australia in October. The EU will definately get Visa Free Access to Australia by October then things will take off for sure

Qantas in a matter of fact is considering to expand to Romania in about 5-7 years time.

tomis3

September 3rd, 2008, 04:27 PM

Source: www.businessmagazine.ro (http://www.businessmagazin.ro/analize/transporturi/blue-air-viseaza-albastru-in-2009.html?5854;3118707&p=1)
Gheorghe Racaru, directorul general al Blue Air, va inaugura doar doua destinatii noi odata cu orarul de iarna pentru 2008-2009. Spune ca nu este un moment propice pentru mai multe, ca in anii anteriori, date fiind costurile in crestere din cauza scumpirii petrolului, dar mai ales faptul ca destinatiile inaugurate anii trecuti si in special odata cu orarul de vara din 2008 trebuie “sa se mai aseze”. Va creste in schimb frecventa pe mai multe destinatii, cu precadere catre cele din Franta si Germania, si vor fi mentinute pentru orarul de iarna unele destinatii din orarul de vara, precum Larnaka (Cipru), datorita cererii in crestere.

“Am avut si 500 de pasageri pe zi pe aceasta destinatie si asta ne-a aratat cat de importanta este Larnaka pentru business, nu neaparat pentru vacante”, spune Gheorghe Racaru. Mai este vorba si de alte curse, precum Köln, Stuttgart si Madrid cu plecare din Sibiu sau Bruxelles cu plecare din Constanta, pe langa zborurile de la Bacau, care pozitioneaza Blue Air drept concurent pentru operatorii regionali, precum Carpatair.

Noile curse introduse in orarul de vara au adus un salt important pentru companie, care a ajuns in prima saptamana din iunie la un numar de 85 de curse saptamanale, fata de 66 de zboruri in iunie 2007. Acestora li s-au adaugat cursele charter, care au crescut cu 16% fata de iunie 2007, ajungand sa contribuie cu 7,6% la afacerile companiei.

Un alt motiv pentru care noi costuri nu sunt binevenite pentru singura companie low-cost romaneasca este programul de innoire a flotei pe care Blue Air l-a inceput in acest an, compania cumparand de la Boeing cinci aeronave seria Next Generation, doua din seria 800 si trei din seria 900. Unul dintre aceste avioane a fost deja livrat in luna iunie, alte doua sunt programate sa vina pana la sfarsitul lui 2009, iar ultimele doua la sfarsitul lui 2012.

Motivele pentru care Blue Air a intrat in aceasta cursa a innoirii flotelor nu sunt legate numai de planurile de crestere, ci au si o importanta componenta legata tot de costuri. “Un avion Boeing clasic (737 - n.red.) intra la un control major dupa 4.000 de ore de zbor, iar dupa un ciclu de 6.000 de ore este desfacut si verificat, pe cand un avion din seria intra la primul control abia dupa 7.000 de ore de zbor”, explica Racaru. Prin operarea de avioane mai noi si care permit reduceri de costuri, compania vrea sa se puna intr-un fel la adapost si de viitoarele fluctuatii de pe piata petrolului, pe care nu poate spune ca nu le-a simtit in 2008: “Principala problema care a franat motoarele companiilor aeriene din intreaga lume - explozia pretului la petrol - a afectat rezultatele financiare si Blue Air nu face exceptie, dar am preferat sa pastram nivelul tarifelor si sa cautam alte moduri de a taia din costuri, scopul principal fiind acela de a ne mentine pozitia de lideri pe piata de low-cost”.

Exista si alte planuri, mult mai apropiate in timp fata de orizontul lui 2012, momentul in care toate noile avioane Boeing ar trebui sa aterizeze in flota Blue Air: “Am incheiat deja contracte pentru a inchiria avioane care sa suplineasca absenta celor achizitionate pana la venirea lor, deoarece avem nevoie inca din 2009 de cresterea de capacitate respectiva”. Racaru se refera aici la faptul ca pentru 2009 compania estimeaza ca va opera cu zece aeronave si va transporta 1,7 milioane de pasageri, ceea ce ar insemna o crestere de peste 60%. “O astfel de crestere se va realiza prin marirea capacitatii (care va depasi un pic 10% prin operarea a zece aeronave) si apoi prin imbunatatirea gradului de ocupare”, spune Gheorghe Racaru, care considera ca mixul de destinatii pe care il ofera acum compania ar trebui sa atraga un grad de ocupare de 90% pentru sezonul si poate chiar si pentru anul viitor.

Cresterea de 30% pentru cifra de afaceri si aproape dubla pentru numarul de pasageri este o estimare credibila, subliniaza Racaru: “Am programat businessul pentru anul viitor in asa fel incat aceasta crestere sa aiba loc, deoarece au fost investitii mari facute anul acesta, care, corelate cu scumpirea petrolului si cu concurenta crescuta din piata, au dus la scaderea profitului - si trebuie sa tinem sub control aceste aspecte”.

Cifra de afaceri in crestere nu va veni insa din 2009 doar din transportul de calatori, ci si din servicii conexe: in luna iulie, Blue Air a castigat la Bursa Romana de Marfuri un contract prin care urmeaza sa presteze servicii de transport aerian pentru Posta Romana, valoarea contractului fiind de 44,84 milioane de euro, fara TVA, pentru o perioada de trei ani si jumatate.

Investitiile facute de omul de afaceri Nelu Iordache, actionarul majoritar al companiei, nu au vizat doar achizitia de noi aeronave pentru Blue Air, ci si dezvoltarea in acest sens a unei companii de aerotaxi - Direct Air Service -, pentru care au mai fost achizitionate un elicopter, pe langa cele existente, precum si un avion.

Daca Blue Air vede o crestere destul de ambitioasa pentru 2009, operatorul regional Carpatair este mai moderat, estimand o crestere de 15-20% a afacerilor si a numarului de pasageri pentru acest an, dar si pentru 2009. Strategia omului de afaceri Nicolae Petrov, actionarul majoritar si directorul general al companiei, vizeaza insa pentru crestere extinderea regionala, 2008 fiind pentru companie un an de intarire a prezentei pe pietele din Ucraina si Grecia. “Ne vom continua cresterea, chiar daca nu la un nivel atat de ridicat ca in ultimii ani, avand in vedere ca pornim de la un alt nivel”, a spus Nicolae Petrov.

Pentru TAROM, operatorul national, cresterea este estimata la 20% in acest an (compania opereaza saptamanal aproximativ 700 de zboruri dus-intors, cu 10-15% mai multe fata de perioada corespunzatoare a anului trecut; gradul de ocupare a crescut cu aproximativ 5%) si de aproximativ 15% pentru 2009, conform estimarilor companiei.

Principalii concurenti ai Blue Air sunt insa celelalte companii aeriene low-cost. Conform datelor oferite de companiile aeriene, Blue Air, Wizz Air si MyAir detin putin peste 80% din piata de low-cost, procente mai mici inregistrand companii precum GermanWings, Sky Europe sau Ryanair.

Tinta operatorilor low-cost pentru acest an, estimata de principalele companii din domeniu, este de circa 3 milioane de pasageri (fata de mai putin de doua milioane de pasageri anul trecut), ceea ce ar situa Blue Air, prin estimarea sa de 1,2 milioane pasageri, la o cota de piata de aproximativ 40%.

Le Clerk

September 3rd, 2008, 06:41 PM

Business Standard (http://www.standard.ro/articol_58416/wizz_air_introduce_din_decembrie_o_cursa_aeriana_pe_ruta_cluj__paris.html)
03/09/2008

Wizz Air introduce din decembrie o cursa aeriana pe ruta Cluj- Paris

Compania ungara low-cost Wizz Air va introduce din 18 decembrie o noua cursa intre aeroportul din Cluj si Paris Beauvais, cu o frecventa de trei ori pe saptamana, a anuntat miercuri compania.

Paris Beauvais este al treilea aeroport al regiunii pariziene, spre care Wizz Air mai opereaza zboruri din alte trei orase. Noua cursa va fi prima a companiei intre Romania si Franta.

Anuntul vine la scurt timp dupa ce Wizz Air a confirmat deschiderea celei de-a zecea baze operationale la Timisoara, de la care vor fi operate zboruri catre aeroportul Londra Luton, din 27 octombrie, urmate de curse catre Roma si Dortmund, din decembrie.

Tot din Timisoyara urmeaza sa fie efectuate zboruri catre aeroporturile Paris Beauvais, Milano Bergamo, Venetia Treviso, Barcelona si Valencia incepand din martie 2009.

In mai, Wizz Air inaugurase la Bucuresti si Cluj un serviciu de transfer intre aeroport si oras pentru pasagerii curselor operate de companie, cu microbuze sau autobuze care fac legatura intre Aeroportul Baneasa si Piata Romana din Bucuresti si intre Aeroportul International Cluj-Napoca si Piata Unirii din Cluj.

Wizz Air dispune de o flota de aeronave Airbus A320 si opereaza zboruri din Polonia, Ungaria, Bulgaria, Croatia, Ucraina si Romania catre destinatii din Europa si a lansat recent zboruri interne in Ucraina. In ultimele 12 luni, Wizz Air a transportat peste 5 milioane de pasageri. (NewsIn)

High Mileager

September 5th, 2008, 01:48 AM

The image of Romania abroad is of grave concern it is seriously giving Romania not a good image. It is good that Romania is going to change its Tourism brand, because it seriously needs it its about time that people start looking at Romania for the changes and what its going to be like. I get so sick of the common misperceptions of Romania and the EU it frustrates me having lived in the EU that still people are fucking dumb enough to remember the past its disappointing and its fucking harmful. I cant wait for a few more years until this shit about Romania diminishes its about time that Romania deserves a new image Romania has worked hard to do so well in changing around. My god its going to adopt the Euro soon, I better hope tourists change their shitty ways and start adopting views of the New Romania. I am so disappointed in the media it is fucking atrocious it disgusts me. :mad::down:

Another good step would be to have more of the companies listed below
flying to Romania..
Currently only 6(bold ones) out of 25 have scheduled flights to Romania.
I'm not sure about SAS..I think they also fly to OTP from CPH.
But Delta announced that their JFK-OTP flight will be canceled..
Alitalia just got bankcrupt..

Top 25 Global Airlines
List last updated:
25 September 2007

2006 Revenues (US$m)
1 Air France KLM 28,945
2 Lufthansa 24,903.7
3 AMR Corporation 22,563
4 Japan Airlines System Corporation 18,905.4
5 UAL Corporation 17,882
6 Delta Air Lines, Inc. 17,171
7 Continental AG 13,128
8 Northwest Airlines Corporation 12,568
9 All Nippon Airways Co., Ltd. 11,765.8
10 US Airways Group, Inc. 11,557
11 British Airways Plc 10,654.6
12 Qantas Airways 10,272.2
13 Singapore Airlines Limited 9,119.3
14 Southwest Airlines Co. 9,086
15 Air Canada Inc 8,934.4
16 Korean Air Lines Co., Ltd. 8,328.6
17 SAS Group 8,236.9
18 Cathay Pacific Airways Limited 7,823.8
19 Emirates Group 7,423.2
20 Iberia 6,473.8
21 Alitalia-Linee Aeree Italiane S.p.A. 5,927.5
22 Virgin Group 3,518.1
23 TAM S.A. 2,515.5
24 Air India 2,060.8
25 ExpressJet Holdings, Inc. 1,679.6

More here:
http://www.computerwire.com/companies/lists/list/?listID=2BF1C574-E861-4092-999B-33D29596C3AA
:cheers:

Cosmin

September 9th, 2008, 10:40 PM

"Henri Coandă" A318 waiting for my ass at OTP
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/4692/dscf0614st5.jpg

Nearby an A310 being redied at gate 12
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/7992/dscf0616wz9.jpg

Waiting for pushback at terminal 2B of CDG; Easy, Malev, Finnair and a lot of Air France birds
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/5497/dscf1373br0.jpg

Le Bourget airport
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/8683/dscf1378iz2.jpg

Roissy - Charles De Gaulle with Terminal 2 clearly visible
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2190/dscf1379lp8.jpg

Somewhere in Austrian airspace approaching Graz
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9400/dscf1380bl9.jpg

Over Balaton Lake, Hungary
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8361/dscf1382te4.jpg

Sorry I didn't take more photos, but I only had a 1 GB memory card, and Paris had a higher priority.:) Also, 70% of the time my girlfriend wanted to sit near at the window.:rant:

High Mileager

September 9th, 2008, 10:53 PM

^^^^..no worries,you did well.I'll try to find some of my aerial pics too..

tomis3

September 10th, 2008, 06:00 AM

YR-BIA taking off from EDDS

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/7/1/9/1388917.jpg

YR-BIA at LRCL

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/8/0/7/1388708.jpg

Cosmin

September 11th, 2008, 11:27 AM

^^
Blue Air lanseaza prima cursa intre destinatii din afara tarii

Linia aeriana romaneasca Blue Air va lansa din 26 octombrie prima sa cursa intre doua destinatii din afara tarii, respectiv intre Bruxelles si Londra, au anuntat miercuri reprezentantii companiei.
"Este pentru prima data cand pasagerii care zboara cu Blue Air pot sa isi cumpere bilet intre cele doua destinatii, Londra si Bruxelles, fara sa fie nevoiti sa ajunga la Bucuresti", a spus Florentina Ivan, directorul de marketing al liniei aeriene.

Potrivit reprezentantilor companiei, introducerea acestei noi curse are menirea de a diversifica conexiunile de care beneficiaza calatorii. Astfel, se poate opta pentru zboruri tur-retur Bucuresti-Bruxelles, Bucuresti-Londra (via Bruxelles) sau Bruxelles-Londra.

Cursele vor fi operate in zilele de miercuri si duminica, iar din 11 decembrie se poate calatori si in zilele de joi.

"Prin lansarea acestei rute, Blue Air concretizeaza o oportunitate excelenta, raspunzand solicitarilor propriilor pasageri care doreau sa calatoreasca intre cele 3 capitale europene, atat in scopuri turistice cat si de business", a declarat Florentina Ivan.

"Probabil ca in 2005 nu ne-am fi gandit ca in doar 3 ani vom ajunge sa operam curse intre alte capitale europene decat Bucuresti. Dar dupa cresterea noastra din ultimii 3 ani si pe masura ce ne pregatim sa depasim pragul de aproximativ 2,8 milioane de pasageri transportati pana la finele lui 2008, aceasta dinamica este absolut naturala", a adaugat directorul de marketing al Blue Air.

Compania de transport aerian Blue Air are capital 100% privat romanesc.

Blue Air a transportat in anul 2007 peste 900.000 de pasageri, ceea ce reprezinta o dublare a traficului fata de 2006. In 2005, compania transportase peste 240.000 de pasageri. Gradul de ocupare a atins 83% anul trecut, in crestere considerabila fata de cele 77 de procente din 2006.

Pentru acest an, Blue Air anticipeaza un total de 1.200.000 de calatori si un grad de ocupare de 83 de procente. In ceea ce priveste indicatorii economici, Blue Air a inregistrat o cifra de afaceri de peste 95 milioane de euro in 2007 si estimeaza 120 milioane euro pentru 2008.
DailyBusiness (http://www.dailybusiness.ro/stiri-turism/blue-air-lanseaza-prima-cursa-intre-destinatii-din-afara-tarii-16997)
:banana::cheers:

nebunul

September 11th, 2008, 11:48 AM

^^:cheers:
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/1528/rollpic7qq9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Baneasa Airport - Blue Air to invest 10 mil Euro in ZA new departure terminal :banana::cheers:
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/2410/banub3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Contract has been signed ... TBC2009:cheers:
http://www.dailybusiness.ro/stiri-turism/blue-air-va-investi-10-mil-euro-in-constructia-noului-terminal-plecari-de-pe-baneasa-16921

Random: Otopeni (Henri Coanda) - Arrivals terminal
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8362/hcya6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

High Mileager

September 12th, 2008, 08:05 PM

Blueair viseaza albastru in 2009

I've just seen in the news that XL.com(West Ham sponsor), third largest travel operator in UK just went into administration,leaving 65000 pax stranded on different airports throughout the world.
I think there are more than 10 airlines not surviving the high costs of fuel this year alone.
Below are some which I remember (but I'm sure there are some others)

9 April - Oasis Airlines - 5 (fleet size)
9 May - Euromanx - 3
13 May - Far Eastern Air Transport - 16 (after 51 years!)
30 May - Silverjet - 3
28 Aug - Zoom Airlines - 5
29 Aug - Alitalia - 181(still operating though)
7 Sept - Futura Airways - 27
12 sept - XL Airways - 15

Blueair should probably inquire.. see if they can get some more planes at a bargain price.
Some of these planes were almost new at the time of bankruptcy.

Free_flow77

September 12th, 2008, 11:55 PM

Zbor Lufthansa Bucureşti - Milano

EXTINDERE. Compania aeriană germană Lufthansa va opera, începând cu luna februarie 2009, un zbor direct pe ruta Bucureşti - Milano (Malpensa), parte a strategiei de extindere a serviciilor directe către nordul Italiei.

Lufthansa va opera zboruri directe spre Milano şi din Budapesta, Bruxelles, Paris, Madrid şi Barcelona. Pentru vară sunt prevăzute şi cursele Milano - Londra şi Milano - Lisabona. Biletele pentru zborurile spre Milano vor putea fi achiziţionate începând cu a doua jumătate a lunii octombrie, iar preţurile vor porni de la 99 de euro, cu taxe incluse.

High Mileager

September 13th, 2008, 12:24 AM

Un articol mai vechi de pe Wanderlust..

http://www.wanderlust.co.uk/article.php?page_id=681

MacHaggis

September 13th, 2008, 12:29 AM

I'm looking forward to see the changes at the Henri Coanda airport and all the other construction sites around town and in other cities.

I'll be arriving in Bucharest on the 15th of September, for a three week stay.

One can only hope the weather will cooperate :)

Regards

nebunul

September 13th, 2008, 11:02 AM

Cosmin

September 13th, 2008, 11:06 AM

Did he actually fly for an airline or just got his ATP license? They say "commercial pilot" in the article though, so I guess he holds a CPL and the shot in that 737 cockpit might just be for publicity. Anyway, great choice!:D

nebunul

September 13th, 2008, 11:22 AM

^^ Airline ... he's a real nutterrrrrr :cheers:
http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2008/09/13/iceland-express-crew-flies-with-singer-bruce-dickinson-to-save-xl-passangers/

High Mileager

September 13th, 2008, 08:08 PM

:doh: Shame on me :ohno: :lol: ... that I did not know ... even though Iron Maiden was my fav band during college years :rock::righton:
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6356/brucemh6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/dickinson%20became%20pilot%20after%20drunken%20binge

It's almost common knoledge ...in UK..not in Ro though.
They(the band) bought a plane and he's the one flying them over wherever they have a concert.He's been a commercial pilot for many years (his daily job in between others as the guy has "many talents")

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Dickinson
:cheers:

Cosmin

September 15th, 2008, 08:49 PM

And I thought landing at CDG with TAROM was a bit of a bumpy ride...
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/2592/1216398mb7.jpg
Fly Swiss!:D

Cosmin

September 16th, 2008, 10:08 AM

Lufthansa va lansa cursa Bucuresti-Milano in februarie 2009

Compania aeriana germana Lufthansa va opera, incepand cu luna februarie 2009, zboruri directe din Bucuresti catre Milano, informeaza presa internationala.
Toate zborurile Lufthansa operate din Romania, pana in prezent, sunt catre destinatii din Germania.

De asemenea, compania aeriana va introduce in februarie 2009 zboruri din Barcelona, Bruxelles, Budapesta si Paris spre Milano (Aeroportul Malpensa).

Compania va incepe sa opereze zboruri directe din Londra si Lisabona catre Milano incepand cu vara anului urmator.

Operatorul aerian german a fost votat recent drept cea mai buna linie aeriana din Europa in 2008, devansand alte 59 de companii, in cadrul unui sondaj la care au luat parte peste 15 milioane de pasageri, interogati de catre Skytrax (compania de cercetare din Londra).

Totodata, easyJet a castigat premiul pentru cea mai buna companie aeriana low-cost din Europa in 2008.
DailyBusiness (http://www.dailybusiness.ro/stiri-turism/lufthansa-va-lansa-cursa-bucuresti-milano-in-februarie-2009-17096)

Robi_damian

September 16th, 2008, 05:27 PM

Deja apare viata pe ramasitele cadavrului Alitalia.

High Mileager

September 16th, 2008, 11:35 PM

Wizzair new destination:
London(Luton) to Timisoara from 27 oct.

It's being advertised on their web site
http://wizzair.com/

RichKid_01

September 17th, 2008, 12:09 AM

Wizzair new destination:
London(Luton) to Timisoara from 27 oct.

It's being advertised on their web site
http://wizzair.com/

Its a shame Australia's so far away from all the fun, oh well thats why I have an British Passport then:lol:

lvan

September 17th, 2008, 06:33 AM

It is a pleasure to see Blue Air going after American aircraft. Very realistic and economical move. Not political choice as some airliners have done it to suck up to EU.

nebunul

September 17th, 2008, 10:21 AM

Wizzair new destination:
London(Luton) to Timisoara from 27 oct.

It's being advertised on their web site
http://wizzair.com/

Ufffffff I need to wait for Iasi another few years until ZA dickheads will extend the runway. Some info http://www.iaae.org/meetings/Dubrovnik06/Conference%20Presentations/IASI%20Airport.pdf
Glad for Timisoara though :banana::cheers::banana: They've been a decent hub for year and years ... Budapest is a massive competitor unfortunately ...

High Mileager

September 17th, 2008, 01:27 PM

I agree.
An Iasi(or Bacau) flight to London will do well.
Also I would like to see Wizzair more interested to operate at Sibiu Itl.
What a heck?! It's a brand new airport !It's a city with real caracter which has a great potential for week end breaks same way as Pisa or others.

High Mileager

September 17th, 2008, 01:41 PM

Wizz Air, singurul operator aerian low-cost care a indraznit sa concureze la intern compania nationala Tarom, a renuntat la ambitiile sale. La lansarea cursei Bucuresti-Cluj, in februarie 2008, oficialii companiei erau optimisti.

„Incepand cu 25 august, zborul Bucuresti-Cluj este suspendat pentru perioada de toamna-iarna. Decizia are la baza conditiile macroeconomice nefavorabile si cererea scazuta pentru perioada iernii pe aceasta ruta“, spun insa acum reprezentantii celui mai mare operator low-cost din Europa Centrala si de Est, Wizz Air.

In lupta cu Tarom, Wizz Air a pornit cu un handicap. Marile aeronave de tip Airbus A320 ale companiei (aproape 200 de locuri), potrivite pe rutele externe incarcate, s-au dovedit prea spatioase pentru ruta Bucuresti-Cluj.

Aici, Tarom, care opereaza cursa cu aeronave mici de 42 de locuri (ATR 42), a inregistrat un avantaj.

Potrivit reprezentantilor Wizz Air, aeronavele au fost incarcate, in medie, 75%, insa datele sunt puse sub semnul intrebarii de reprezentanti ai unor companii aeriene concurente. „75% la o capacitate a aeronavelor lor de 189 de locuri ar insemna 140 de pasageri. Pe Aeroportul Baneasa nu am vazut, de cele mai multe ori, mai mult de 80 de pasageri pentru Cluj“, spune directorul general al unui operator concurent. Directorul general al Aeroportului International Cluj, David Ciceo, are o opinie asemanatoare.

„Nu am primit foarte multe detalii (privitoare la intreruperea operarii - n.red.). Una dintre posibilitati este si faptul ca avionul folosit pentru aceasta cursa era de tipul Airbus 320, care este de fapt o aeronava pentru curse mai lungi de doua sau de trei ore, si aici era vorba doar despre 35 de minute“, a spus acesta.

„Intentionam sa atingem un grad de ocupare de 84%, asemanator tuturor rutelor noastre. Incarcarea va fi de cel putin 70-75%“, spunea la lansarea cursei Joszef Varadi, director general Wizz Air. Daca tinta nu va atinsa, adauga acesta, Wizz Air este pregatita sa micsoreze cat mai mult pretul biletelor pentru a umple avioanele. Nici prezenta Tarom nu speria linia maghiara. „Un angajat de-ai nostri deserveste 7.500 de pasageri, iar unul de la Tarom, 1.500. Suntem pregatiti sa facem concurenta Tarom“, comenta Joszef Varadi eficienta celor doua companii. Operatorul isi propusese sa transporte „in primul an“ 40.000 de pasageri intre Bucuresti si Cluj. Nisa de piata urma sa fie constituita nu atat din segmentul business, care probabil va ramane fidel Tarom, cat de „cei care foloseau pana acum trenul“.

Clujul a fost, in plus, o destinatie prea scumpa, date fiind taxele mari percepute de aeroport companiilor aeriene. In plus, starea tehnica a pistei cuprinse acum in programe de modernizare nu este inca foarte buna. „Aeroportul are o pista scurta, la mijlocul caii de rulare exista o denivelare, iar taxele de aeroport, care includ si o asa-zisa taxa de dezvoltare, sunt mai mari decat chiar cele de pe Otopeni“, spune directorul general citat. Potrivit acestuia, pentru un pasager transportat la Cluj, o companie aeriana plateste 24 de euro.

„Este o pista scurta care uzeaza aeronavele si care creste costurile de intretinere a acestora. Pista seamana cu una moderna precum o autostrada din Germania este asemanatoare cu una din Romania“, spune un pilot de la Tarom. „Deschiderea cursei in vara anului viitor este incerta. Vom lua in consideratie acest lucru in momentul in care conditiile macroeconomice, dezvoltarea pietei si disponibilitatea aeronavelor detinute vor indica o noua oportunitate legata de respectiva ruta pentru compania noastra“, spune Iulia Goaga, reprezentant al Wizz Air. Pe piata romaneasca, Wizz Air isi mentine atentia catre cursele externe, traditionale.

sursa:Bloombiz