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marxman
November 26th, 2008, 05:33 PM
i really do think the battle ground would be on the operators. on the part of the drivers there only concern is that they'll have money to bring home to their families. but the operators. they would really oppose it coz its like deposing a feudal lord from his fief. but for me its really on political will. if the city is really on to this BRT system which could solve our traffic problem then they should do everything even kahit na masagasaan ang mga operators. sometimes we need war to get things done you know. y'all know wat im sayin. but before we go to the extremes we need to find other peaceful ways. but lets also not waste time.

ive been here in manila for months now and really traffic here sucks!!! i hope it wont happen in cebu.

and i hope ung mga jobs na magenerate sa srp are more on knowledge-based para mga programmers sa cebu dili na m.ari sa manila to find more lucrative and more interesting jobs. coz really if ill compare the jobs here on IT, our city lags so much behind.

i hope mawala nsad jud ang squatters sa cebu city. our city should use the space to build vertical housing. to save space. and then give it to the squatters and then really not allow other squatters to squat on idle lands. idle lands should be protected.

jmaunes
November 26th, 2008, 05:47 PM
i really do think the battle ground would be on the operators. on the part of the drivers there only concern is that they'll have money to bring home to their families. but the operators. they would really oppose it coz its like deposing a feudal lord from his fief. but for me its really on political will. if the city is really on to this BRT system which could solve our traffic problem then they should do everything even kahit na masagasaan ang mga operators. sometimes we need war to get things done you know. y'all know wat im sayin. but before we go to the extremes we need to find other peaceful ways. but lets also not waste time.

ive been here in manila for months now and really traffic here sucks!!! i hope it wont happen in cebu.

and i hope ung mga jobs na magenerate sa srp are more on knowledge-based para mga programmers sa cebu dili na m.ari sa manila to find more lucrative and more interesting jobs. coz really if ill compare the jobs here on IT, our city lags so much behind.

i hope mawala nsad jud ang squatters sa cebu city. our city should use the space to build vertical housing. to save space. and then give it to the squatters and then really not allow other squatters to squat on idle lands. idle lands should be protected.

I agree, pinakahate jud nako ang taxi drivers, tikasan to the highest level na magkaatake jud ka sa kasingkasing sa kalagot nimo. Tinuod layo ra ang IT sa Cebu if you compare it to Manila salary and oppurtunity-wise. Hopefully, competitive napud ang Cebu para uli nata hehehe

jmaunes
November 26th, 2008, 05:51 PM
thanks. missed that. i accidentally wrote Bolivia at first, then corrected it. forgot to remove the wrong country.

i think its Calgary, Canada which has a fully operational BRT. Vancouver, if i'm not wrong, is a bus transport, not necessarily a BRT. but i'll check again.

for more info on BRT's you might want to search on these cities which were successfull with BRTs: Mexico City, Quito, Ecuador, Curritiba, Brisbane, Australia, etc., etc.

i also strongly recommend taking time to watch the following videos:

An Interview with Enrique Penalosa --> http://www.streetfilms.org/archives/interview-with-enrique-penalosa-long/

Making Things Happen with BRT --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZl1N6bTp_M (this is part 1, there is a part 2, which should not be difficult to search in youtube ...)

and yes, that's part of the options we think - involving existing jeepney operators and drivers in the future operations of the BRT ...




edit: sorry, your right, Vancouver has a BRT --> http://www.apta.com/research/info/briefings/documents/mills.pdf

Yeah that is true, their B-Line buses are incorporated to their translink system. Translink is their fully integrated transport system.

One good thing I see in it is the fact that you pay your fare through zoning basis. Lets say any point in Cebu City is 1 fare rate, then Mandaue and Talisay is another fare rate. Lapulapu, Minglanilla and Consolacion is another.

Cebuski78
November 26th, 2008, 10:37 PM
the job of a city planner is very exciting and very fulfilling. it's being a city planner IN THE PHILIPPINES that's very discouraging and disappointing, if you know what i mean ...

city planning technologies are relatively new, but city planning dates back a long time ago (remember we have had cities for the last, what? - 4,000 years? sometimes, in the midst of the problems we have today, it's nice to contemplate on what city life had been in the last century, or ages ago - we might learn something from our ancestors ...

my grandfather was from iloilo, my father is from hinobaan, negros occ., i was born here in cebu, but i grew up in toboso, negros occ. (sorry for the OT)

Sir paul unsay kalainan sa Urban planning og urban design?...sa USC man gud, kung wa ko masayop, murag ila gi-offer is Urban design...libog ko asa ako kwaon nga course ani nila...I'm a graduate of architecture and I'm planning to take Urban Planning or maybe Urban design? or maybe pareho ra na lain lag ngalan...hehehe!

ninja kid
November 27th, 2008, 12:11 AM
i think its Calgary, Canada which has a fully operational BRT. Vancouver, if i'm not wrong, is a bus transport, not necessarily a BRT. but i'll check again.


nope sir. we are using the LRT system here in Calgary. see here -> Calgary Transit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calgary_Transit)

Edmonton is using the Electric Trolley Buses around downtown but they don't call it BRT. see here -> ETS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmonton_Transit_System)

Vancouver has a BRT system in place ... comparable to those in South America and US ...

i hope BRT system pushes thru in Cebu ... kami sa Neg. Occ. ... mantinir lang jud sa Ceres ...:nuts:

AmbutLang
November 27th, 2008, 12:49 AM
The city hall will have all the jeepney drivers go to retraining courses for safety driving for the transition to be employeed as BRT drivers or the system as a whole. All BRT employees should have safety training class no palusot. The jeepney drivers of the affected routes will be considered first after the screening checks like police/NBI records, motor vehicle reports and medical check-up.
At present all jeepney drivers should have a dress code like a clean collared light color shirts and long pants. Kanang dili bang naglago ba. Ang uban driver naka aseti ang sanina ug naka short pants pa. Limpio ba tan-awon.

betro
November 27th, 2008, 01:08 AM
Thanks a lot @betro. Much appreciated.
Never thought that all of the above can be done on a single day.
I'll contact you when my plans push through.

Your welcome...

zidlakan
November 27th, 2008, 01:26 AM
Sir paul unsay kalainan sa Urban planning og urban design?...sa USC man gud, kung wa ko masayop, murag ila gi-offer is Urban design...libog ko asa ako kwaon nga course ani nila...I'm a graduate of architecture and I'm planning to take Urban Planning or maybe Urban design? or maybe pareho ra na lain lag ngalan...hehehe!

urban design is a branch of architecture. it's more on the physical design, layout, configuration of a city - how it looks like, physically. the transport system is partially art of it - at least, the physical layout and system part.

urban planning is a multi-disciplinary field that deals with what kind of city we want - in a holistic view. it not only includes physical planning but also cultural, historical, social, economic, sociological, even spiritual (for example, urban planning in iran mandates their urban design to incorporate islam principles), as well as other characteristics. thus while urban design looks at BRT as how it is laid out, what's the design of the median lanes and stations, kind of buses, etc., urban planning also looks into - how to address the negative effects to drivers and operators, how far will the ordinary filipino or cebuano walk to a station (used to design distances between stations), fare systems and fare collections, institutional problems like who will operate.

urban design is a field of architecture and you have to take the architecture board exam in order to get a licence. urban planning maybe taken in UP - diploma course (half of MAURP), masters of arts in urban and regional planning, or a PhD., and the board exam to take is the Environmental Planning Board Examination. the professional title is actually an Environmental Planner (although actually you're an urban and regional planner). why the difference in terminology is long story which i prefer to discuss at another time, he he he. i think you can also take urban planning in ateneo, or in USP or any some other schools in some other variant names between urban planning and environmental planning.

note: for the rudiments of urban planning, you need to take only the DURP course - about 7-8 subjects. you need the MA or the PhD only if you really mean to make it a career.


edit: my suggestion: just get the syllabus of both. for urban planning, download it from the UP website at the School of Urban and Regional Planning (SURP). by the way, the dean now is Dr. Primitivo Cal, our fellow cebuano who once was dean here in UP-Cebu and who was once USEC of DOTC. better still, try to talk to Archs. Yumi or Maxwell Espina - they're prominent architects who are also prominent urban planners, they should be able to explain the difference well ...

habagatcentral1
November 27th, 2008, 01:30 AM
^^ @SirPaul...I am interested in taking up MAURP. Are there any other institutions in the country except UP that offers it? I hope Ateneo has because I'll be planning to make it as my second graduate degree after I finish up my first.... Does a background in BA History/MA Anthropology work well with MAURP? And where is the best Urban Planning school here and the country or abroad? Thanks!

Mga bai, sorry pod sa OT nako.

zidlakan
November 27th, 2008, 01:39 AM
nope sir. we are using the LRT system here in Calgary. see here -> Calgary Transit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calgary_Transit)
Edmonton is using the Electric Trolley Buses around downtown but they don't call it BRT. see here -> ETS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmonton_Transit_System)
Vancouver has a BRT system in place ... comparable to those in South America and US ...
i hope BRT system pushes thru in Cebu ... kami sa Neg. Occ. ... mantinir lang jud sa Ceres ...:nuts:

thanks. my mistake, sorry ....

One good thing I see in it is the fact that you pay your fare through zoning basis. Lets say any point in Cebu City is 1 fare rate, then Mandaue and Talisay is another fare rate. Lapulapu, Minglanilla and Consolacion is another.

another very exciting topic debated among urban planning and transport planning circles - unitary (single) fare (one fare only whether you ride one station or 20), vs. zoned fare (one fare within a zone, higher fare when you cross zones), or distance-based (our traditional system based on kilometers traveled). wa pa'y sakto ug sayop ani, ga sigi pa ug debate, althugh wa na't labot na'ng distance based karun kay kinaraan na kuno na, he he. so its between unitary fare or zoned fare ...

zidlakan
November 27th, 2008, 01:46 AM
^^ @SirPaul...I am interested in taking up MAURP. Are there any other institutions in the country except UP that offers it? I hope Ateneo has because I'll be planning to make it as my second graduate degree after I finish up my first.... Does a background in BA History/MA Anthropology work well with MAURP? And where is the best Urban Planning school here and the country or abroad? Thanks!

Mga bai, sorry pod sa OT nako.

don't ask me! because i'm biased! (he he) ... UP-SURP, of course. but i think ateneo does have one. Anthropology is fine, it's even excellent. urban planning accepts any undergrad background, i even had student's before whose background were - surprise! - B.S. Biology or Journalism! ... and they worked just fine. urban planning is diverse though, so sooner or later you really have to specialize - like maybe land use and zoning, transportation, housing, environmental management, heritage, etc. it's an exciting world out there!

abroad - i'd suggest AIT in Bangkok, Dormont in Germany, one in Singapore which name i forgot, many in Japan, Europe, and US, though in the US, for some unknown and strange reason, urban planning is lumped in their political science departments. sorry again, but i'm biased ... i will suggest Asian schools ... most of the time, western urban planning techniques do not work well in Asia ... better learn from our asian neighbors ...

habagatcentral1
November 27th, 2008, 01:50 AM
don't ask me! because i'm biased! (he he) ... UP-SURP, of course. but i think ateneo does have one. Anthropology is fine, it's even excellent. urban planning accepts any undergrad background, i even had student's before whose background were - surprise! - B.S. Biology or Journalism! ... and they worked just fine. urban planning is diverse though, so sooner or later yu really have to specialize - like maybe land use and zoning, transportation, housing, environmental management, heritage, etc. it's an exciting world out there!

^^ :lol: Biased gid ba! Hehehe!!! :lol: Anyway, "Isko" man ko sa undergrad ko. Hehe!!!:D Anyway, thanks for the tip Sir Paul. Will be looking forward to checking up UP-SURP and anything that is related to this field. :okay:

Cebuski78
November 27th, 2008, 04:55 AM
urban design is a branch of architecture. it's more on the physical design, layout, configuration of a city - how it looks like, physically. the transport system is partially art of it - at least, the physical layout and system part.

urban planning is a multi-disciplinary field that deals with what kind of city we want - in a holistic view. it not only includes physical planning but also cultural, historical, social, economic, sociological, even spiritual (for example, urban planning in iran mandates their urban design to incorporate islam principles), as well as other characteristics. thus while urban design looks at BRT as how it is laid out, what's the design of the median lanes and stations, kind of buses, etc., urban planning also looks into - how to address the negative effects to drivers and operators, how far will the ordinary filipino or cebuano walk to a station (used to design distances between stations), fare systems and fare collections, institutional problems like who will operate.

urban design is a field of architecture and you have to take the architecture board exam in order to get a licence. urban planning maybe taken in UP - diploma course (half of MAURP), masters of arts in urban and regional planning, or a PhD., and the board exam to take is the Environmental Planning Board Examination. the professional title is actually an Environmental Planner (although actually you're an urban and regional planner). why the difference in terminology is long story which i prefer to discuss at another time, he he he. i think you can also take urban planning in ateneo, or in USP or any some other schools in some other variant names between urban planning and environmental planning.

note: for the rudiments of urban planning, you need to take only the DURP course - about 7-8 subjects. you need the MA or the PhD only if you really mean to make it a career.


edit: my suggestion: just get the syllabus of both. for urban planning, download it from the UP website at the School of Urban and Regional Planning (SURP). by the way, the dean now is Dr. Primitivo Cal, our fellow cebuano who once was dean here in UP-Cebu and who was once USEC of DOTC. better still, try to talk to Archs. Yumi or Maxwell Espina - they're prominent architects who are also prominent urban planners, they should be able to explain the difference well ...

Thank you very much Sir paul...:) :) :)

SUV111
November 27th, 2008, 05:32 AM
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The Cebuano Exultor
November 27th, 2008, 05:36 AM
i meant everyone can afford starbucks. bring it up to a more larger sense of things, say overseas travel. like here in new zealand, 3 out of 4 people have been overseas on holiday at least once, because they can afford to on their income. or what about buying homes or taking out a loan on a house, what is the home ownership rate in the philippines? a dismal 15-25% (and those statistics are dodgy). developed countries have a home ownership rate of 50-80%.

I believe in the trickle-down effect of capitalist free-market economics that, eventually, the expanding spending patterns of the rich few will have an economically positive ripple-effect on the larger populous. As the service industry grows (e.g., establishment of more Starbucks Coffee outlets), it spurs employment and, with a higher employment rate, the gap between the rich and poor will be lessened to a certain extent.

Of course, I am not saying that there can't be other ways of bridging the rich-poor gap. All I'm saying is that this is a way.

LordCarnal
November 27th, 2008, 05:40 AM
I was in Fully Booked yesterday...

Barato lagi ilang books?

I saw a World History book published by the National Geographic Society. Full of photos, very thick. Sold for only P658 pesos, roughly same price sa mga second hand books (of same subject) being sold in BookSale and RSO. For sure in other bookstores this will be sold for more than P1k..


:banana:

dongRoy
November 27th, 2008, 12:07 PM
WHEREAS, For the last two decades, Cebu City, and the rest of Metro Cebu for that matter, has been growing steadfastly in a brisk pace, exerting pressure on the existing road infrastructure. Car ownership/registration has steeply risen, travel demand expanded and in general, corridor capacities are nearing their optimum capacities or have breached them already, further aggravated by the fact that private trips have soared (in relation with trips made on public transportation) with the people's preference leaning towards cars as the economy expanded.

WHEREAS, towards this end, it has been the expressed goal and desire of the City of Cebu, to initiate developmental moves towards a shift to urban public mass transportation to ease the pressure on transport infrastructure.

WHEREAS, commensurate to the need for much better and more efficient modes of mass transportation is the growing need and awareness for citizens' mobility not only through motorized vehicles but equally in other non-motorized modes such as walking, and the use of bicycles, which, not only provide cheaper means of transport from one place to another but also provide a cleaner and more environmentally-friendly community;

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NOW THEREFORE, on motion of Councilor _________________, DULY SECONDED by Councilor _________________, BE IT RESOLVED AS IT IS HEREBY RESOLVED, to declare as a policy direction of the City Government of Cebu, the establishment of a PUBLIC URBAN MASS TRANSPORT SYSTEM in the City of Cebu as the primary mode of transportation in the city, which shall incorporate, as a matter of transport policy, the regulation and control of the proliferation of unnecessary and unwanted car use in the city streets, and the provision of pedestrian and bicycle walkways and other infrastructure for non-motorized transport, in order to provide equal, democratic, and inclusive urban mobility for all;

RESOLVED LIKEWISE, that the public urban mass transport system in the City of Cebu shall be bus-based, in the form of a Bus Rapid Transit (BRT), and as much as possible and practicable, on-grade, providing ease of access to all citizens including children, senior citizens, and persons-with-disabilities (PWD's), and shall be seamlessly integrated with pedestrian walkways and bicycle lanes and other infrastructure for non-motorized transport, which are planned to be implemented in consonance with this policy direction;

RESOLVED FURTHER, that the bus-based, BRT-model public urban transport system in the City of Cebu shall employ state-of-the-art clean propulsion technology, and shall use clean, and efficient fuel, with the most minimum, if not zero, emission levels of gases and other particulate matter, which may contribute to global warming and other health risks;


Sir Paul, maayong buntag or gabii ba kaha. If I may express a few of my opinions in this forum which I believe you have already looked into.

1. As per mentioned in the resolution, the system "shall be seamlessly integrated with pedestrian walkways and bicycle lanes and other infrastructure for non-motorized transport"; does that also include increasing the capacity of the pedestrian walk ways all across the city? Or if there are budget constraints, perhaps increasing the capacity of the walk ways within the vicinity of the Bus Stops and Interchange stations, at least for a start.

2. To add control to the unnecessary car use, would it be feasible to establish multi-level parking buildings on strategic locations. At least on locations being serviced by the BRT? A sort of "the Car STOPS where BRT begins" kind of location. Perhaps parking buildings may be privately owned and accommodate more than a thousand cars. Further resolutions would be to eliminate the PAY PARKING areas along the sides of the streets, and maybe be converted into walk ways instead. In this way, car owners would be "forced" to use the BRT. Although, imposing by law is effective, Cebuanos on the other hand respond better to campaigns. Campaigns promoting to the car owners to leave their cars and use the BRT instead at the angle of saving on Fuel Costs, parking fees and minimizing their vehicles' wear and tear extending its life span.

3. One of the major factors that cause pedestrian immobilization in Cebu is the rise of water levels during rain showers. Some locations in the city are basin-like and could accumulate a pool of rain water. Perhaps there can also be an improvement in the drainage systems especially within the vicinity of the Bus Stops and Interchange stations. Kay kung maguwan man gud, basin ang mga commuters magtipun-og na unya nuon sa mga Bus stops kay dili makagawas kay gabaha.

4. For environmental concerns, perhaps there can be ordinances that would increase the standard in vehicle CO2 emissions. At least i-set nalang that the allowable particulate matter emitted should be similar to that of a brand new vehicle or whatever international environmental standards are today. Also, kung mahimo, dili na i-renew ang registration and franchise of Taxi Cabs that are more than 5 years old.

Kato ra Sir Paul. Thank you and More power to the City Administration.

diehardbisdak
November 27th, 2008, 03:47 PM
...only in Cebu!


flickr pic by @dmkreuz
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jmaunes
November 27th, 2008, 04:23 PM
thanks. my mistake, sorry ....



another very exciting topic debated among urban planning and transport planning circles - unitary (single) fare (one fare only whether you ride one station or 20), vs. zoned fare (one fare within a zone, higher fare when you cross zones), or distance-based (our traditional system based on kilometers traveled). wa pa'y sakto ug sayop ani, ga sigi pa ug debate, althugh wa na't labot na'ng distance based karun kay kinaraan na kuno na, he he. so its between unitary fare or zoned fare ...

sakto its like dividing metro cebu into zones. zone 1 is cebu city north and south, zone 2 is mandaue, lapulapu and consolacion and zone 3 is talisay and minglanilla. if i buy a ticket i will decide asa ko padulong if taga minglanilla ko and adto ra ko talisay palit kog 1 zone ticket for zone 3. if ever mucross kog pardo meaning munaog k osa pardo mubayad kog extra fare for entering zone 1.if gikan ko minglanilla and adto kog lapulapu, 3 zones na ticket ako paliton. ang imo ticket is unlimited travel given a certain period lets say 2 hrs. if mulapas kog 2 hrs palit napud kog another ticket kay niexpire naman ako ticket...and since zoned ang tickets and naay concept na unlimited travel pwede ka palit ug monthly pass which allows you to do an unlimited travel sa zone/s na imo gipalitan and maybe naa siyay extra perks na bring a friend for unlimited travel on sundays, libre ride for kids on sundays and unlimited zones on saturdays for you alone, something liek that..hehehe

diehardbisdak
November 27th, 2008, 04:27 PM
...a Testament to Cebuano's Entrepreneurial Skill!

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Julie’s Bakeshop eyes 80-100 more branches (http://www.bworldonline.com/BW112808/content.php?id=046)
Business World Online
27 November 2008

LOCAL BAKER Julie’s Franchise Corp. will put up 80 to 100 more stores next year as it targets returning Filipino migrant workers for its franchise.


"We feel we can still open 80 to 100 branches next year... Maybe a number of people dislodged from their jobs [abroad] and some Filipino workers coming home from abroad are potential franchisees who can join the business," Virgilio G. Espeleta, president and chief operating officer of Julie’s Bakeshop, said in an interview.

Julie’s Bakeshop, established in 1981, has more than 560 branches operated by more than 200 franchisees nationwide, Julie’s Bakeshop Chief Executive Officer Jose Enrico R. Gandionco said in a separate interview.

Mr. Gandionco said they would likely lower their bread prices early next year depending on the prices of competitors. "The problem of flour mills is that they cannot lower prices immediately because they bought wheat at higher prices," he said.

Last week, the government issued an executive order removing the 3% tariff on wheat imports. Julie’s Bakeshop launched Nutribread, a coconut flour-based bread, on Wednesday.

Julie’s Bakeshop is also looking at franchising its fastfood chain, Julie’s Fastfood. "We have been in the fastfood business even before Julie’s bakeshop. That is something that maybe in a year or two we can franchise," Mr. Espeleta said. All five Julie’s Fastfood stores are in Cebu.

Julie’s Bakeshop is also open to developing or buying an existing food business, which the company can also franchise, Mr. Espeleta said.

Meanwhile, the management will likely wait for the business climate to get better before going public and franchising abroad given an ongoing financial crisis in the US and Europe.

"At this time, with the crisis around, we are not in a position to take that step," Mr. Espeleta said. "I do not think next year may be a good time [to list on the stock exchange] because the worse is yet to come," he added.

This year, at least 10 Julie’s Bakeshop stores were closed due to low profits caused by a change in traffic in certain municipalities. — Neil Jerome C. Morales

diehardbisdak
November 27th, 2008, 04:31 PM
Samsung eyes BPOs for air-con products (http://www.bworldonline.com/BW112808/content.php?id=048)
Business World Onlie
28 November 2008

SAMSUNG IS banking on the growth of the local business process outsourcing (BPO) sector to ramp up the sales of its environmentally friendly air-conditioning system.

In a recent briefing, Samsung officials said the company seeks to hike its market share in air-conditioned product sales to a quarter by 2010 from around 8% today.

"We have positioned ourselves very competitively in the market," Christopher T. Pandi, head of Samsung Electronics Philippines Corp.’s Air-conditioned Consumer Electronics head said in a briefing. The company made around $6 million this year from air-con sales, he said, adding that the company plans to hike the number through increased market share.

Mr. Pandi said Samsung sells air-conditioners mostly to big corporations, adding that Samsung products are 20% to 30% more fuel-efficient.

The company’s variant refrigerant flow technology, developed with Emerson Climate Technologies, allows its products to change refrigerant flow using sophisticated controls.

The Korean company was recently hired to provide air-conditioning equipment to a BPO facility being built in Ortigas, Pasig and a seven-star hotel under construction in Cebu. :nuts: :lol:

"A number of the tenants of these buildings are foreign companies so they have certain standards to follow. They are very particular with green or environment-friendly buildings," Mr. Pandi said.

Samsung imports the products it sells here from manufacturing plants in China, Malaysia and Singapore. — Paolo Luis G. Montecillo

LordCarnal
November 27th, 2008, 04:35 PM
sakto its like dividing metro cebu into zones. zone 1 is cebu city north and south, zone 2 is mandaue, lapulapu and consolacion and zone 3 is talisay and minglanilla. if i buy a ticket i will decide asa ko padulong if taga minglanilla ko and adto ra ko talisay palit kog 1 zone ticket for zone 3. if ever mucross kog pardo meaning munaog k osa pardo mubayad kog extra fare for entering zone 1.if gikan ko minglanilla and adto kog lapulapu, 3 zones na ticket ako paliton. ang imo ticket is unlimited travel given a certain period lets say 2 hrs. if mulapas kog 2 hrs palit napud kog another ticket kay niexpire naman ako ticket...and since zoned ang tickets and naay concept na unlimited travel pwede ka palit ug monthly pass which allows you to do an unlimited travel sa zone/s na imo gipalitan and maybe naa siyay extra perks na bring a friend for unlimited travel on sundays, libre ride for kids on sundays and unlimited zones on saturdays for you alone, something liek that..hehehe

thanks. my mistake, sorry ....



another very exciting topic debated among urban planning and transport planning circles - unitary (single) fare (one fare only whether you ride one station or 20), vs. zoned fare (one fare within a zone, higher fare when you cross zones), or distance-based (our traditional system based on kilometers traveled). wa pa'y sakto ug sayop ani, ga sigi pa ug debate, althugh wa na't labot na'ng distance based karun kay kinaraan na kuno na, he he. so its between unitary fare or zoned fare ...



Hong Kong's tram I think is an example of a unitary fare.

If I'm not mistaken, you only pay a one time fare of HK$2 (around 14 pesos I think) to ride the tram. Pwede ka dili muna-og sa tram, maski kapila pa magtuyok tuyok.

I think this is also the reason why it's popular with tourists because they can tour the city for only P14 pesos equivalent.



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Jimbu
November 27th, 2008, 05:45 PM
Samsung eyes BPOs for air-con products (http://www.bworldonline.com/BW112808/content.php?id=048)
Business World Onlie
28 November 2008

The Korean company was recently hired to provide air-conditioning equipment to a BPO facility being built in Ortigas, Pasig and a seven-star hotel under construction in Cebu. :nuts: :lol:



grabe na to :bash: :lol:

Cebuski78
November 27th, 2008, 06:32 PM
whaaaaaaaaaat? seven star hotel? naa moy idea unsa ni nga hotel? og kung asa ni tukuron? tinuod ni? :nuts::nuts:

Jimbu
November 27th, 2008, 06:48 PM
^^ mactan imperial palace

jrevalde
November 27th, 2008, 10:57 PM
wow, seven star hotel diretso, its like we skipped a stage, considering nga wa pay 5 star hotel ang cebu

flesh_is_weak
November 28th, 2008, 12:31 AM
despite the fact that Metro Cebu is somewhat too small to be divided into fare zones, it could be reasonable as the fare wouldnt have to be too high...pero kung barato ang rate sa unitary fare, why not? Toronto for example is a huge city, but we only pay one fare (and get transfer tickets when moving from one vehicle to another) for each trip on the public transit. Although i heard that Vancouver which is just as big--or maybe smaller--is divided into fare zones

@zidlakan: i knew i was right to believe it...so indeed, malls aren't good to have around in a neighborhood...i've been reading about that in many urban planning textbooks, and in fact certain places around the GTA are working on replacing malls--which they blame for urban decay--with more community-oriented structures where people can live, work, and play

Sinjin P.
November 28th, 2008, 12:45 AM
^^ mactan imperial palace

Diba naa man to'y balita nga naa'y nagtukod ug 7-star hotel sa Daanbantayan?

Sleepwalker
November 28th, 2008, 01:14 AM
Diba naa man to'y balita nga naa'y nagtukod ug 7-star hotel sa Daanbantayan?

Sa akong mahinumdoman, si Dona Mariquita Salimbangon-Leung ang investor ato...Basin 50% done na to karon... :)

ivanc
November 28th, 2008, 02:50 AM
Legality of body studying FLI proposal questioned
Updated November 28, 2008 12:00 AM

CEBU - An official of the Cebu Provincial Government yesterday questioned the legal authority of the committee created by the Cebu City Government to study the unsolicited proposal of the Filinvest Land Inc. to enter into a joint venture agreement with the city to develop a 40-hectare portion of the South Road Properties.

Lawyer Rory Jon Sepulveda, Capitol consultant on information and revenue generation, posed the question as the Joint Venture Selection Committee is expected to release its recommendation on the study they conducted on the Filinvest’s proposal within the week.

Sepulveda said the committee was created by an ordinance enacted by the City Council and was approved by Mayor Tomas Osmeña on October 3, 2008. Section 11 of the said ordinance required its publication before it would become effective after 10 days.

However, he said that they have not noticed that the ordinance was published in the newspapers. There could have been no question on the legality of the activities of the committee had the ordinance been published, he added.

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?ArticleId=419293&publicationSubCategoryId=107

hay kakapoy ani...:ohno:

bOrN2BwILd
November 28th, 2008, 02:52 AM
ha 7 star gyud...?? wowww...one thing's for sure kung madayon man gani na... world renown hotel gyud dayon na kay gamay ra baya kaayu ang hotels nga with 7star ratings...gamay ra man gani ang 5..ehehehe wa man gani tay 6...7 pa kaha...:lol:..im excited kung madayon man gani...:)

dongRoy
November 28th, 2008, 02:55 AM
^^nag-ego tripping man siguro ni si Sepulveda. Palabi sad ni siya'g gara-gara dah!

betro
November 28th, 2008, 03:19 AM
wow, seven star hotel diretso, its like we skipped a stage, considering nga wa pay 5 star hotel ang cebu

Shagrila Mactan and Plantation Bay are 5 star hotels.

betro
November 28th, 2008, 03:23 AM
ha 7 star gyud...?? wowww...one thing's for sure kung madayon man gani na... world renown hotel gyud dayon na kay gamay ra baya kaayu ang hotels nga with 7star ratings...gamay ra man gani ang 5..ehehehe wa man gani tay 6...7 pa kaha...:lol:..im excited kung madayon man gani...:)

On going naman ang construction. KANDAYA Resort ang name. I doubt 7 star ang classification pero basin sa service 7 star sila. Anyway mas dako pa sila og gasto sa Bayswater Mactan than KANDAYA Resort.

betro
November 28th, 2008, 03:34 AM
Marriott Cebu P246.4-M facelift gets BOI perks

Written by Max V. De Leon / Reporter
Thursday, 27 November 2008 23:13

THE Ayala-owned Cebu City Marriott Hotel is undergoing a P246.4-million facelift as it seeks to be more competitive, now that new luxury hotels are sprouting in Cebu City.

The renovation involves fixing and refurbishing the guest rooms and public spaces, with the makeover described as extensive in terms of design and technology. The hotel is operated by international chain Marriott Lodging and has been in existence since 1998.

The 303-room deluxe hotel is located at the center of the Cebu Business Park, which is now considered as the city’s newest financial district.

The Board of Investments (BOI) approved the grant of nonpioneer incentives to the renovation project, qualifying it for up to four years of income-tax holidays and duty-free importation of capital equipment.

The public spaces will have a sleeker modern look and concept. The works also include refurbishing of the interiors of the elevators, cable television installation, electricals, plumbing and other mechanical fixes.

Significant additions to the hotel will also be made, including the grand ballroom, meeting rooms, lobby area with Wi-Fi access, garden café with an interactive kitchen facility and a fitness center.

The project will require 301 new personnel and will start commercial operation in January 2009.

The company is hoping that the renovation will make it more competitive, especially now that new hotels are being put up in the area, including the SM Sofitel-Cebu, Hong Kong Plaza and the Grand Zenia.

The BOI also approved the grant of incentives to the P586.2-million vertical housing project of RFM Corp. unit Philtown Properties Inc. in Manila. To be called the W.H. Taft Residences, the development is a 30-story condominium with 432 units, although only 271 units qualified as low-cost and will enjoy nonpioneer incentives

miaka_cham
November 28th, 2008, 04:01 AM
congrats! 76th thread na. Paging miaka, your treat is long overdue. :lol:

sa christmas party na!! ^_^ sorry for the long overdue..:P

it's better late than never.:D

leylander
November 28th, 2008, 04:20 AM
CEBU CITY, Philippines -- Is it a crime to keep a treasure found in a garbage dump? Or is it a case of finders, keepers?

A 16-year-old boy who regularly searched the garbage in the Inayawan Landfill in Cebu City found on Wednesday morning a sack containing $60,000, or almost P3 million.

He first thought the bills were fake so he approached a couple who facilitated the exchange of the dollars into pesos.

After confirming that the bills were not fake, the 16-year-old kept the money, shared some with his fellow scavengers, and even distributed kilos of rice to them.

However, the owner of a money-changing business in Barangay (village) Calamba, Cebu City, surfaced and claimed ownership of the dollar bills, which he said had been placed inside a small sack and mistakenly thrown away as garbage.

The moneychanger informed Calamba barangay chairman Victor Quijano Jr. that he went to the Inayawan landfill Wednesday to look for the sack containing the dollar bills but could not find it.

Quijano, in an interview over station dyLa, said a person at the landfill informed the moneychanger that a scavenger found the money.

The viilage chief, who went to the Inayawan landfill and saw people who appeared to be celebrating, said he sought the help of the National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) to recover the money.

He said they already had the names of the scavenger and the couple who helped exchange the dollar bills into pesos.

But the NBI agents who went to the dumpsite found the three no longer around, he said.

But lawyer Briccio Joseph Boholst, president of the Integrated Bar of the Philippines (IBP) Cebu City Chapter, said the NBI could not arrest or charge the scavenger.

"There has to be intent to commit the crime. In this situation, where is the intent? I don't think there was even a crime committed," Boholst said over station dyLA.

He said the alleged owner should show evidence he owned the money.

Aside from a claim of ownership, Boholst said he could not see how the moneychanger could prove the money was his.

He also said the money could be considered a discarded item because it was thrown away.

"If somebody finds something in the garbage, it would mean this was discarded and he could claim it as his own," Boholst said.

He noted that the question of the boy's honesty could not be applied in this case.

"When you find something of value in the garbage, you would not ask who the owner was because it would be difficult to determine the identity," he said.

Meanwhile, Quijano refused to identify the moneychanger for security reasons but he said the moneychanger's operation was legal. He said the owners were known personalities in his village.

Kiddoboy_iAn
November 28th, 2008, 04:51 AM
wow! is that true? $60,000.. swerteha gud sa nakapunit! ehehehehe and i think that money changer needs to show proof..and why was it in the dumpsite already... hmmmm

but thr to late already.... tsk tsk tsk... to bad for them! lolz

bOrN2BwILd
November 28th, 2008, 05:20 AM
^^luoy ang MAID in korea nga naglabay sa bag...dakung award sa amo..:lol:
pamasko nalang to sa basurerong nakapunit...mayaman na si papa..:lol::nuts:

diz
November 28th, 2008, 05:43 AM
mabait naman siya ah...

sira ulo yung money changer haha

tama yung ginawa ng scavenger.

LordCarnal
November 28th, 2008, 05:45 AM
On going naman ang construction. KANDAYA Resort ang name. I doubt 7 star ang classification pero basin sa service 7 star sila. Anyway mas dako pa sila og gasto sa Bayswater Mactan than KANDAYA Resort.


How big is the resort bai? Mga villas ang accomodation just like Plantation Bay?


.:.


@Regarding the US$ found in the dump, if the owner of the money changer has copies of the serial numbers sa US$ then I think it's enough to prove ownership. Just like sa Western Union, they always get a copy of the serial number of the US$.

Anyway, as what a certain Cebu City councilor said, "thanks for sharing your blessings to the poor..."


//

iLoveCebu!
November 28th, 2008, 06:07 AM
ang problema kay wala na sa basurero ang money. gitagaan lang ug P2,000 ang basurero. Naa na sa kamot sa barangay captain sa inayawan Rustom Ignacio. tsk tsk tsk

AmbutLang
November 28th, 2008, 07:41 AM
At least 10% finders fee should be given that is 300,000.oo pesos.:ohno: :bash:
The money changers make at least 75 centavos per dollar. They transacted close to a million dollars a day. I had heard that some times some banks go to her and buy dollars outright to back the dollar accounts when the are short $$$. :devil:

2,000 pesos sa bata 300,00 pesos sa barangay captain and another 100,00 pesos pahalipay sa uban. :bleep: :tongue:

habagatcentral1
November 28th, 2008, 04:05 PM
Sa usa ka v-hire sa Opon...:D

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/3/photos/238/600x600/47/CEBMNL84.jpg?et=Lor98NiP4APB6Sl4lO1sjw&nmid=116774915

habagatcentral1
November 28th, 2008, 04:08 PM
Here are more of the Cebu's Canter jeepneys...

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/3/photos/238/600x600/45/CEBMNL144.jpg?et=EJA2CBzCSzSn%2BVWHpmIvBw&nmid=116774915

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/3/photos/238/600x600/55/CEBMNL92.jpg?et=xQm8oagVoE2CY1T4w%2BJgQg&nmid=116774915

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/3/photos/238/600x600/56/CEBMNL93.jpg?et=FBAiwTp2oQdfPZvHrwwhjQ&nmid=116774915

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/3/photos/238/600x600/57/CEBMNL94.jpg?et=GhrM%2BMlfdlnj0h0Y8IusNQ&nmid=116774915

SleMarKen
November 28th, 2008, 06:01 PM
Carcar, Cebu

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3147/3065371323_f943cc9215.jpg

jrevalde
November 28th, 2008, 11:06 PM
^^lol makagunit na ganig pentel pen ug papel ang cebuano......

mwg12a
November 29th, 2008, 01:07 AM
mabait naman siya ah...

sira ulo yung money changer haha

tama yung ginawa ng scavenger.

I"m sure that owner/money changer would have more of those in the future, let these poor people have it. The kid didn't commit any crime it was in a dumpster and possibly in a garbage bag or something. Who would really know the actual owner of it ? Besides, if the boy reported to the authorities, you never know if that authority would really search for the actual owner. I hope this kid would use that money wisely. He was being good for sharing some of the finds to his fellow scavengers.

Sleepwalker
November 29th, 2008, 01:12 AM
I"m sure that owner/money changer would have more of those in the future, let these poor people have it. The kid didn't commit any crime it was in a dumpster and possibly in a garbage bag or something. Who would really know the actual owner of it ? Besides, if the boy reported to the authorities, you never know if that authority would really search for the actual owner. I hope this kid would use that money wisely. He was being good for sharing some of the finds to his fellow scavengers.

A real life lesson on what is really the essence of Christmas and sharing...Mao na ginaingon nga "Ang basura sa uban, kayamanan sa lain".... :)

Maayong pasko ninyo mga Bai...Una-una lang ko.. :)

AmbutLang
November 29th, 2008, 01:23 AM
Naa ang pangalan sa money changers name duol sa amo.

http://globalnation.inquirer.net/cebudailynews/news/view/20081128-174884/Scavenger-hunted-down

bOrN2BwILd
November 29th, 2008, 02:19 AM
^^nya unsa naman daw iyang ikasulti?nakaget over na xa??nasa national news pa jud...
pasko na bitaw...:nuts:

diehardbisdak
November 29th, 2008, 06:14 AM
FYI....ABACA Restaurant & Boutique Hotel and AVATAR were featured on UZ (Urban Zone)....saw it yesterday in TFC....grabe man diay ni ka-luxurios ang Abaca....and by the way, karon pa ko, na-a man diay 11-storey (just recently finished) ang Avatar sa Mactan...modern kaayo ang design sa building...

...last week's episode, they also featured Microtel and Businessman Jay Aleguer's House.....sunod sunod sa Cebu...heheh!

wildmusic!
November 29th, 2008, 06:15 AM
OT: the gang is back!!!

Check out Wolfgang and Razorback in Cebu.

December 12th Paseo, F. Cabahug Street.


rock on, Cebu! :rock:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
November 29th, 2008, 08:47 AM
FYI....ABACA Restaurant & Boutique Hotel and AVATAR were featured on UZ (Urban Zone)....saw it yesterday in TFC....grabe man diay ni ka-luxurios ang Abaca....and by the way, karon pa ko, na-a man diay 11-storey (just recently finished) ang Avatar sa Mactan...modern kaayo ang design sa building...

...last week's episode, they also featured Microtel and Businessman Jay Aleguer's House.....sunod sunod sa Cebu...heheh!

yeah, and this sunday will be their last epi....:okay:

SleMarKen
November 29th, 2008, 01:22 PM
Sugod na ug butang street decoration for sinulog

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/9718/dsc00271nr6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

concern
November 29th, 2008, 02:36 PM
^^ yeah butangan na nila ug sto. nino diha..

MatudNilaBaby
November 29th, 2008, 03:03 PM
Here are more of the Cebu's Canter jeepneys...

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/3/photos/238/600x600/45/CEBMNL144.jpg?et=EJA2CBzCSzSn%2BVWHpmIvBw&nmid=116774915

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/3/photos/238/600x600/55/CEBMNL92.jpg?et=xQm8oagVoE2CY1T4w%2BJgQg&nmid=116774915

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/3/photos/238/600x600/56/CEBMNL93.jpg?et=FBAiwTp2oQdfPZvHrwwhjQ&nmid=116774915

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/3/photos/238/600x600/57/CEBMNL94.jpg?et=GhrM%2BMlfdlnj0h0Y8IusNQ&nmid=116774915

upon looking at these pictures, i see no jeepney driver offense going on instead its the pedestrian who violated the jaywalking law kay wala man lagi pulis nahala labang bisan asa. kon maynakakita man ganing pulis molingi nalang para wala nay samok. pinoy na pinoy attitude.

whether its brt or jeepneys running in our busy streets, if the pedestrians ignore the rules of the road, the chaos in our streets will not be solved. the city and provincial governments of cebu in cooperation of the dept. of education and lto 7 must come up with an extensive driver's education program intended for all stakeholders not just jeepney or taxi drivers but most of all the pedestrian. they could be our school kids, college students, the tinderos or tendiras, the office or contstruction workers, the businessman, the teachers and visitors alike.

for the school kids and students (who will be the future drivers), it must be integrated in their curriculum even as an elective course. for the adults and already out of school, the print and broadcast media can be a viable tool to inform the public of road safety, and the consequences of violating the street laws. if the passengers are well informed about the loading and unloading areas and where the designated street crossings are, they will be more attune to follow. dili lang kay bisan asa ka mo tuktuk ug para noy anhi ra ko dinhi. oy misaylo naku atras gamay noy. unya sila pay ma suko sa driver.

so its not all the driver's fault when u brt proponents use the blame game. im not really against brt but they must co-exist with our jeepneys. totally phasing them is out is tantamount to a harakiri of the jeepney drivers and their dependent families. disciplina lang ang kinahanglan thru informed citizenry. maayo pa kon mao nay itudlo sa mga bata kay mag sige ug celebrate anang linggo ng hika or wika basta linggo man to.

habagatcentral1
November 29th, 2008, 03:20 PM
upon looking at these pictures, i see no jeepney driver offense going on instead its the pedestrian who violated the jaywalking law kay wala man lagi pulis nahala labang bisan asa. kon maynakakita man ganing pulis molingi nalang para wala nay samok. pinoy na pinoy attitude.

Bai, the pictures 2-4 were shot inside the jeepney terminal of Ayala Center. I think there is no implementing policy regarding jaywalking inside the terminal area.

In fairness with CITOM, they are very strict with highly-pedestrianized volume of Metro Colon area. They do capture and send to a community services or seminar or pay a fine to those who have offended the anti-jaywalking law.

davaob4now
November 29th, 2008, 03:43 PM
SSC Banner 30 November 2008...cebu again...
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/images/headers/30.jpg
Cebu Cebu Sha la lalala Cebu!:cheers:

zidlakan
November 29th, 2008, 04:15 PM
upon looking at these pictures, i see no jeepney driver offense going on instead its the pedestrian who violated the jaywalking law kay wala man lagi pulis nahala labang bisan asa. kon maynakakita man ganing pulis molingi nalang para wala nay samok. pinoy na pinoy attitude.

whether its brt or jeepneys running in our busy streets, if the pedestrians ignore the rules of the road, the chaos in our streets will not be solved. the city and provincial governments of cebu in cooperation of the dept. of education and lto 7 must come up with an extensive driver's education program intended for all stakeholders not just jeepney or taxi drivers but most of all the pedestrian. they could be our school kids, college students, the tinderos or tendiras, the office or contstruction workers, the businessman, the teachers and visitors alike.

for the school kids and students (who will be the future drivers), it must be integrated in their curriculum even as an elective course. for the adults and already out of school, the print and broadcast media can be a viable tool to inform the public of road safety, and the consequences of violating the street laws. if the passengers are well informed about the loading and unloading areas and where the designated street crossings are, they will be more attune to follow. dili lang kay bisan asa ka mo tuktuk ug para noy anhi ra ko dinhi. oy misaylo naku atras gamay noy. unya sila pay ma suko sa driver.

so its not all the driver's fault when u brt proponents use the blame game. im not really against brt but they must co-exist with our jeepneys. totally phasing them is out is tantamount to a harakiri of the jeepney drivers and their dependent families. disciplina lang ang kinahanglan thru informed citizenry. maayo pa kon mao nay itudlo sa mga bata kay mag sige ug celebrate anang linggo ng hika or wika basta linggo man to.

i agree with most of the points, but i'd like to point out a couple of things -
first, when we propose the brt, its not a blame game and drivers are not
faulted - the need for public mass transport is a natural evolution for a
growing city. second, in a form of a question - was the phasing out of the
tartanilla wrong? they were the main form of transportation before the
jeepney phase them out. do you mean to say that we were wrong and they
shouldnt have been replaced by jeepneys?

the livelihood of jeepney operators and drivers is one of the foremost
concerns that should be addressed in the planning of brt's - if we don't face
the issue squarely, we'll run into lots of difficulties. but it shouldn't be made
a reason for cebu to remain and stagnate with the present transport system
while other cities all around the world improve their mobility with better and
more efficient forms of public transportation.

diehardbisdak
November 29th, 2008, 04:20 PM
...it's Kaohsiung, Cebu's Sister City

SSC Banner 30 November 2008...cebu again...
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/images/headers/30.jpg
Cebu Cebu Sha la lalala Cebu!:cheers:

diehardbisdak
November 29th, 2008, 04:31 PM
Flickr Pics!


> > > scroll > > >
http://www.imageocean.net/images/o1g3xlpntuoy69qlyvt0.jpg



SRP's Kawit Park
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3294/3068277514_dc1081cb18.jpg?v=0



http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3182/3067487655_a4a6f1e41f.jpg?v=0

orion.phiaos
November 29th, 2008, 04:45 PM
on my way to cebu city

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/4511/dsc00002zm6.jpg

http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/8984/dsc00003ev2.jpg

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8412/dsc00004bv3.jpg

JEFFjr_25
November 29th, 2008, 05:04 PM
-dp-

JEFFjr_25
November 29th, 2008, 05:20 PM
;28561032']im sure it said sibu (cebu), philippines...not sure lang pila ka days/nights murag 3d/2n man ata..besides if sa johor, dili na mag plane, mag bus lang na from singapore hehe

class95 radio station here in Singapore

But Senai Int'l. Airport of Malaysia is in Johor Bahru. :)

davaob4now
November 29th, 2008, 06:00 PM
...it's Kaohsiung, Cebu's Sister City

huh!!! walang halong biro, cebu city talaga ang first pic, pinalitan lang nila...bat nila pinalitan...?

JEFFjr_25
November 29th, 2008, 06:19 PM
^^ Yup . Even I , saw it. I just dont know what happened. Kalit lang gi-usab ug Kaohsiung.:lol:

LordCarnal
November 29th, 2008, 06:47 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2259/2105292653_042b47af92.jpg?v=0

LordCarnal
November 29th, 2008, 06:55 PM
I agree that jeepneys should be phased out.

I don't think it's harakiri because they're going to be phased out little by little. It might take a generation or two -- even three or four, hehe.

For example, the LTO or whoever is in charge with this, might stop issuing franchises for jeepneys. Aside from that, they might also reduce the jeepneys on a particular route, and eventually remove them from the major roads and relegate them to interior roads. As such, as time goes by, jeepneys will eventually be gone.

Jeepneys might be a symbol of culture but they just came out of nowhere after World War II and I think it's becoming a culture of mediocrity and inefficiency.


i agree with most of the points, but i'd like to point out a couple of things -
first, when we propose the brt, its not a blame game and drivers are not
faulted - the need for public mass transport is a natural evolution for a
growing city. second, in a form of a question - was the phasing out of the
tartanilla wrong? they were the main form of transportation before the
jeepney phase them out. do you mean to say that we were wrong and they
shouldnt have been replaced by jeepneys?

the livelihood of jeepney operators and drivers is one of the foremost
concerns that should be addressed in the planning of brt's - if we don't face
the issue squarely, we'll run into lots of difficulties. but it shouldn't be made
a reason for cebu to remain and stagnate with the present transport system
while other cities all around the world improve their mobility with better and
more efficient forms of public transportation.

upon looking at these pictures, i see no jeepney driver offense going on instead its the pedestrian who violated the jaywalking law kay wala man lagi pulis nahala labang bisan asa. kon maynakakita man ganing pulis molingi nalang para wala nay samok. pinoy na pinoy attitude.

whether its brt or jeepneys running in our busy streets, if the pedestrians ignore the rules of the road, the chaos in our streets will not be solved. the city and provincial governments of cebu in cooperation of the dept. of education and lto 7 must come up with an extensive driver's education program intended for all stakeholders not just jeepney or taxi drivers but most of all the pedestrian. they could be our school kids, college students, the tinderos or tendiras, the office or contstruction workers, the businessman, the teachers and visitors alike.

for the school kids and students (who will be the future drivers), it must be integrated in their curriculum even as an elective course. for the adults and already out of school, the print and broadcast media can be a viable tool to inform the public of road safety, and the consequences of violating the street laws. if the passengers are well informed about the loading and unloading areas and where the designated street crossings are, they will be more attune to follow. dili lang kay bisan asa ka mo tuktuk ug para noy anhi ra ko dinhi. oy misaylo naku atras gamay noy. unya sila pay ma suko sa driver.

so its not all the driver's fault when u brt proponents use the blame game. im not really against brt but they must co-exist with our jeepneys. totally phasing them is out is tantamount to a harakiri of the jeepney drivers and their dependent families. disciplina lang ang kinahanglan thru informed citizenry. maayo pa kon mao nay itudlo sa mga bata kay mag sige ug celebrate anang linggo ng hika or wika basta linggo man to.

diehardbisdak
November 29th, 2008, 06:57 PM
...unsa 'to nga pic bai? i mean, asa part sa Cebu gipakita sa banner...?

huh!!! walang halong biro, cebu city talaga ang first pic, pinalitan lang nila...bat nila pinalitan...?

Cebuski78
November 29th, 2008, 09:13 PM
^^ Yup . Even I , saw it. I just dont know what happened. Kalit lang gi-usab ug Kaohsiung.:lol:

unsa man nga picture?

Sinjin P.
November 29th, 2008, 11:32 PM
huh!!! walang halong biro, cebu city talaga ang first pic, pinalitan lang nila...bat nila pinalitan...?

Baka nakacache lang 'yung Cebu banner sa PC mo kaya 'yun ang una mong nakita. ;)

AmbutLang
November 30th, 2008, 12:07 AM
I had a call center soliciting me yesterday, to transfer from National Grid Gas Co. to other Gas Co. My first impression was the guy was an Indian agent. Then he caught my accent and asked me if I am Filipino. Then I mistakenly say "KANGNANG" then he cut-in that I am BISAYA so thus he. wow abut sab diay any soliciting company sa Cebu call center diri sa NYC? Hehehe :lol:

ashton
November 30th, 2008, 12:32 AM
When jeepney drivers go on strike, it is the time that I'll have a better picture as to how it would look like if we only have buses running in the major roads. "Wa gyuy samuk". And I love it, really. :)

For me, sa gyud sa mga jeepney drivers kay nganu mo hunong ra man sila bisan asa. Kay kung dili nila pasakyun ang mga tawo bisan asa lang mapugos gyud na ug adto sa jeepney stop ui. Hehe. :)

Ngano gud "law abiding" kaayo "traffic rules wise" ang mga Pinoys kung naa sila sa Singapore?????

upon looking at these pictures, i see no jeepney driver offense going on instead its the pedestrian who violated the jaywalking law kay wala man lagi pulis nahala labang bisan asa. kon maynakakita man ganing pulis molingi nalang para wala nay samok. pinoy na pinoy attitude.

whether its brt or jeepneys running in our busy streets, if the pedestrians ignore the rules of the road, the chaos in our streets will not be solved. the city and provincial governments of cebu in cooperation of the dept. of education and lto 7 must come up with an extensive driver's education program intended for all stakeholders not just jeepney or taxi drivers but most of all the pedestrian. they could be our school kids, college students, the tinderos or tendiras, the office or contstruction workers, the businessman, the teachers and visitors alike.

for the school kids and students (who will be the future drivers), it must be integrated in their curriculum even as an elective course. for the adults and already out of school, the print and broadcast media can be a viable tool to inform the public of road safety, and the consequences of violating the street laws. if the passengers are well informed about the loading and unloading areas and where the designated street crossings are, they will be more attune to follow. dili lang kay bisan asa ka mo tuktuk ug para noy anhi ra ko dinhi. oy misaylo naku atras gamay noy. unya sila pay ma suko sa driver.

so its not all the driver's fault when u brt proponents use the blame game. im not really against brt but they must co-exist with our jeepneys. totally phasing them is out is tantamount to a harakiri of the jeepney drivers and their dependent families. disciplina lang ang kinahanglan thru informed citizenry. maayo pa kon mao nay itudlo sa mga bata kay mag sige ug celebrate anang linggo ng hika or wika basta linggo man to.

flesh_is_weak
November 30th, 2008, 05:50 AM
i'm trying to get my hands on this book: http://catalogue.torontopubliclibrary.ca/uhtbin/cgisirsi/cDN8doAz9l/TPL/175137579/9

LordCarnal
November 30th, 2008, 07:03 AM
I had a call center soliciting me yesterday, to transfer from National Grid Gas Co. to other Gas Co. My first impression was the guy was an Indian agent. Then he caught my accent and asked me if I am Filipino. Then I mistakenly say "KANGNANG" then he cut-in that I am BISAYA so thus he. wow abut sab diay any soliciting company sa Cebu call center diri sa NYC? Hehehe :lol:

Daghan jud ug Filipino like Dell, Earthlink, Expedia, Washington Mutual, etc.etc.

..

diehardbisdak
November 30th, 2008, 07:46 AM
...the Badjaos of Mindanao making a living in Cebu... :okay:


on my way to cebu city

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/4511/dsc00002zm6.jpg

http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/8984/dsc00003ev2.jpg

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8412/dsc00004bv3.jpg

diehardbisdak
November 30th, 2008, 08:14 AM
ANZANI - Italian Resto - Nivel Hills, Cebu City

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3269/3067438960_a1d7138540.jpg?v=0
flickr pic by @georgeparilla

Alingatong
November 30th, 2008, 08:15 AM
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/Alingatong/SSC/cebu1.jpg

I love Cebu!

diehardbisdak
November 30th, 2008, 08:16 AM
flickr pic by @georgeparilla
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3072/3067436846_c27b7eb172.jpg?v=0

diehardbisdak
November 30th, 2008, 08:17 AM
...nice pic bai...unsa imo gamit ani bai?

..pwede pang-next banner sa SSC Cebu...heheh!
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/Alingatong/SSC/cebu1.jpg

I love Cebu!

Alingatong
November 30th, 2008, 08:22 AM
...nice pic bai...unsa imo gamit ani bai?

..pwede pang-next banner sa SSC Cebu...heheh!

just a simple point-and-shoot cam. :)

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/Alingatong/SSC/cebu2.jpg

diehardbisdak
November 30th, 2008, 08:28 AM
^^ love the colors! more pics bai....heheheh!

Alingatong
November 30th, 2008, 08:29 AM
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/Alingatong/SSC/cebu3.jpg

diehardbisdak
November 30th, 2008, 08:36 AM
^^ bai, timing kaayo imo pagkuha sa pic...nice weather, no smog....

Alingatong
November 30th, 2008, 08:36 AM
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/Alingatong/SSC/cebu4.jpg

Alingatong
November 30th, 2008, 08:45 AM
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/Alingatong/SSC/cebu5.jpg

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/Alingatong/SSC/cebu6.jpg

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/Alingatong/SSC/cebu1.jpg

Alingatong
November 30th, 2008, 09:01 AM
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/Alingatong/SSC/cebu7.jpg

Alingatong
November 30th, 2008, 09:07 AM
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/Alingatong/SSC/cebu8.jpg

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/Alingatong/SSC/cebu9.jpg

Simply amazing CEBU! :banana:

Alingatong
November 30th, 2008, 09:25 AM
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/Alingatong/SSC/cebu10.jpg

Love it! :cheers:

diehardbisdak
November 30th, 2008, 09:29 AM
^^ thanks sa mga pics bai! :cheers:

Alingatong
November 30th, 2008, 09:30 AM
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/Alingatong/SSC/cebu11.jpg

Alingatong
November 30th, 2008, 09:33 AM
^^ thanks sa mga pics bai! :cheers:

You're welcome bai. Hope you'll like it. :)

qwert_guy
November 30th, 2008, 09:41 AM
^^wow ganda ng mga kuha mo sir A....

:okay:

zidlakan
November 30th, 2008, 11:15 AM
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/Alingatong/SSC/cebu8.jpg
Simply amazing CEBU! :banana:

wow! timing kaayo kay ang power plant sa ermita wa mag-andar, he he he

some days, it's not as clear as this as those power plants do emit smoke,
though not really grabe.

i hope time comes mabalhin unta na'ng power plants diha to some other
places farther away from the city center ...

concern
November 30th, 2008, 11:47 AM
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/Alingatong/SSC/cebu10.jpg

Love it! :cheers:

sunrise?.. reflections from the skyscrapers

zidlakan
November 30th, 2008, 01:21 PM
just a footnote on the BRT ...

please understand that the BRT is a public mass transportation system. it has its inherent advantages but it has limitations, too.

thus, i prefer not to talk about "phasing out" or "replacing" jeepneys with BRT. i believe the jeepneys are there to stay even after 20 years from now. each has its own roles in cebu's development.

firstly, please note that the BRT is a "corridor" transport system. it means it's a mass transportation which is placed in "transport corridors" or routes/links with very high ridership. it can't be placed in areas with limited ridership coz then, it loses its viability. please remember that one of the main advantages of the BRT is that it is designed NOT to be subsidized, as against the LTR, MRT, subway, or metros, which are HEAVILY subsidized and bleeds the coffers of government - money which would have otherwise been spent for other social and development projects. for example, the fare of theMRT is manila runs from P11 to P15. but actually, the real cost of transporting a passenger may run up to P50 - P60! who pays for the difference? you and me! its subsidized, so every time a manila resident rides on the LRT or MRT, all the filipinos, including us from visayas and mindanao, pays for his/her fare!

forget that, we can't do anything about that now. but as we plan for the cebu BRT, we propose that it be self-liquidating ... that it be NOT subsidized. the BRT when it comes will be in corridors. for example, i can't imagine having a BRT in urgello-private route ... can you? no, jeepneys will still be around. they'd be supporting the feeder routes. when time comes, the discipline which comes along with the BRT will transcend to them (i hope .. i keep my fingers crossed). once, we have an efficient public transport in place, the jeepneys hopefully will follow suit in terms of road discipline, especially in the loading and unloading of passengers.

what does this "transport corridor" mean in real terms?

it means that the implementation of the BRT will be limited to the main corridors will it will be viable, initially. for example, if all things run smoothly, i am foreseeing the following BRT routes in the next 5 years ...

http://villarete.com/paul/zidlakan/images/BRTprobableroutes.jpg

let me explain a bit. lets call the lines: BRT1 (blue), BRT2 (yellow), BRT3 (pink) and BRT4 (green).

BRT1 and BRT2 maybe the proposed corridor between talisay and MEPZ. BRT2 takes the traditional route - talisay - south road - natalio bacalso -imus - north road - second bridge - MEPZ. BRT1 is from talisay but passes through south coastal road - SRP - plaza independencia - macarthur blvd. - north recla - mandaue recla - old bridge - MEPZ.

it is important for you to understand that in all probability, having both routes will NOT be POSSIBLE nor FEASIBLE. both are catering to almost the same ridership, and if we divide that between them, the feasibility becomes less. so i am predicting it might be BRT1 or BRT2 or a combination of both, but not both. for example, it might be BRT2 coming from talisay and turn right to SM and become BRT1 on the way to MEPZ. ... or the other way around. we have no way of knowing at this time until after the transport study is completed. but i'm sure there will be at least one talisay to MEPZ route in the next 5 years. maybe it will become 2 in 10-15 years.

BRT3 is essential! its the internal transport system of the SRP and now that development is starting, it is of paramount importance that its internal transport system be put in place. no jeepneys of course ... no way! ... and if plans pushes through, NO CARS, too! everything inside will be by BRT, bicycles, or walking ... with sufficient sidewalks and bicycle lanes. if you go there by BRT, you have to transfer to the internal BRT in a transfer (we are still identifying the location). same way as those who will come by car - you have to park in the transfer station and transfer to the internal BRT. whether we have the political will to impose a carless SRP remains to be seen ... but it seems mayor osmena is fairly determined to do it that way ... well, maybe, (and i am dreaming) electric cars ... but NO
CAR coming from the outside, he he he.

BRT4 is the talamban corridor. i am not particularly sure where it will pass upon reaching archbishop ave. but i drew up an escario - capitol - osmena blvd. route reaching city hall and connecting either to BRT1 or BRT2 (transfer station, too). it can pass through gorordo - right to maxilum -then left to osmena, too, or it can simply reach ayala then turn left to SM and connect to BRT1 or BRT2. i don't know. that's why we need the study ... to determin where it will go.

the way i see it, for as long as there are no hitches. BRT1 OR BRT2, BRT3, and BRT4 will be online within the next 5 years. that is, assuming, talisay, mandaue, and lapu-lapu agrees and supports the project.

otherwise, my explanation, and my drawing above ... will be up to cebu city boundaries only, he he he ... bulacao up to SM/mabolo.


note: maybe in the next 10-15 years, the following may be feasible: for BRT1 and BRT2, assuming both are online, a loop in talisay connecting both; talamban route can extend up to canduman and loop towards mandaue linking to BRT1 and/or BRT2; talamban-CBD route can branch to natalio bacalso and link to SRP; another loop maybe establish passing through capitol, banawa, katipunan or tres de abril then n. bacalso.

the future routes will be more difficult because of the narrow streets.

well, who knows, maybe the BRT will make a HIT and people will love it that it will be easier to expands roads in the future ...

leylander
November 30th, 2008, 01:27 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3236/3070056451_532a4e3663.jpg

I think this year's tree was designed to withstand strong winds. :)

leylander
November 30th, 2008, 01:35 PM
just a footnote on the BRT ...

please understand that the BRT is a public mass transportation system. it has its inherent advantages but it has limitations, too.

thus, i prefer not to talk about "phasing out" or "replacing" jeepneys with BRT. i believe the jeepneys are there to stay even after 20 years from now. each has its own roles in cebu's development.

firstly, please note that the BRT is a "corridor" transport system. it means it's a mass transportation which is placed in "transport corridors" or routes/links with very high ridership. it can't be placed in areas with limited ridership coz then, it loses its viability. please remember that one of the main advantages of the BRT is that it is designed NOT to be subsidized, as against the LTR, MRT, subway, or metros, which are HEAVILY subsidized and bleeds the coffers of government - money which would have otherwise been spent for other social and development projects. for example, the fare of theMRT is manila runs from P11 to P15. but actually, the real cost of transporting a passenger may run up to P50 - P60! who pays for the difference? you and me! its subsidized, so every time a manila resident rides on the LRT or MRT, all the filipinos, including us from visayas and mindanao, pays for his/her fare!

forget that, we can't do anything about that now. but as we plan for the cebu BRT, we propose that it be self-liquidating ... that it be NOT subsidized. the BRT when it comes will be in corridors. for example, i can't imagine having a BRT in urgello-private route ... can you? no, jeepneys will still be around. they'd be supporting the feeder routes. when time comes, the discipline which comes along with the BRT will transcend to them (i hope .. i keep my fingers crossed). once, we have an efficient public transport in place, the jeepneys hopefully will follow suit in terms of road discipline, especially in the loading and unloading of passengers.

what does this "transport corridor" mean in real terms?

it means that the implementation of the BRT will be limited to the main corridors will it will be viable, initially. for example, if all things run smoothly, i am foreseeing the following BRT routes in the next 5 years ...

thanks sir paul for the clarification.

honestly, I was also puzzled why most of the people here want jeepneys to disappear completely. the jeepneys have been the veins and arteries of the philippine society and it's not easy (or wise) to remove them altogether. i don't think buses would run the pit-os, oppra or private route. only jeepneys can and would. IMO. hehe

zidlakan
November 30th, 2008, 01:44 PM
thanks sir paul for the clarification.

honestly, I was also puzzled why most of the people here want jeepneys to disappear completely. the jeepneys have been the veins and arteries of the philippine society and it's not easy (or wise) to remove them altogether. i don't think buses would run the pit-os, oppra or private route. only jeepneys can and would. IMO. hehe

well ... it's because oftentimes, if not most of the time, the jeepneys do
cause traffic jams, not following road rules and regulations, loading and
unloading in the middle of the road, or anywhere for that matter, emit black
smoke, and generally gets your blood pressure a notch higher when you're
on the road. but if that can be rectified, the jeepney would serve as a
perfect feeder system to the BRT ... ex.: pit-os and surrounding area to
talamban station ... guadalupe to capitol station ... etc.

maybe, meybe ... jeepneys would be generally replaced by buses ... in the
next 20 years ... but only about up to 50% i think ...

marxman
November 30th, 2008, 02:04 PM
note: maybe in the next 10-15 years, the following may be feasible: for BRT1 and BRT2, assuming both are online, a loop in talisay connecting both; talamban route can extend up to canduman and loop towards mandaue linking to BRT1 and/or BRT2; talamban-CBD route can branch to natalio bacalso and link to SRP; another loop maybe establish passing through capitol, banawa, katipunan or tres de abril then n. bacalso.


sir tanong lng, why will it take around 5-10 years? can we not implement it in 1-2 years time? the faster it will be implemented the better.

im guessing study would take 1 year and then negotiation with other cities would be 1 year. after that then the implementation. and i even think that 2 years is still too long. maybe some explanation lng so i or we could understand the process of implementing the brt system and why its still gonna take 5-10-15 years to fully implement it.

its not that its a really mega project. dubai was created in less 20 years i guess.

marxman
November 30th, 2008, 02:15 PM
well ... it's because oftentimes, if not most of the time, the jeepneys do
cause traffic jams, not following road rules and regulations, loading and
unloading in the middle of the road, or anywhere for that matter, emit black
smoke, and generally gets your blood pressure a notch higher when you're
on the road. but if that can be rectified, the jeepney would serve as a
perfect feeder system to the BRT ... ex.: pit-os and surrounding area to
talamban station ... guadalupe to capitol station ... etc.

maybe, meybe ... jeepneys would be generally replaced by buses ... in the
next 20 years ... but only about up to 50% i think ...

and also sir. why does it have to take around 20 years to fully phase out those jeepneys. i really hate those jeepneys. i always get road rage coz sa ilang pagka dili m.follow sa rules. but i understand them coz they're making a living. the more passenger they get the better. so we cant really blame them. why dont we get rid of that mentality of those drivers (the more passenger the better even if they dont follow rules). i think the brt will really solve this. coz if their salary will be fixed for a day or for a month then there's no use of competing for passengers. that way we could demand that they follow the rules and i think they would oblige.

and one thing sir, jeepneys are a bit of eyesores. they dont look good. we promote our city as the best tourist destination but our streets dont look that good. its chaotic and polluted.

but hopefully if the brt is fully implemented. the city could even gain so much money from it through ads. the city could rent the buses (ung sa sides nya) as ads. dba? thats big money.

marxman
November 30th, 2008, 02:16 PM
we should really get rid of those jeepneys. or if its really that important culturally. then why cant we create jeepney replicas. buses which look like jeepneys? dba?

zidlakan
November 30th, 2008, 02:17 PM
sir tanong lng, why will it take around 5-10 years? can we not implement it in 1-2 years time? the faster it will be implemented the better.

im guessing study would take 1 year and then negotiation with other cities would be 1 year. after that then the implementation. and i even think that 2 years is still too long. maybe some explanation lng so i or we could understand the process of implementing the brt system and why its still gonna take 5-10-15 years to fully implement it.

its not that its a really mega project. dubai was created in less 20 years i guess.

hmmm .... the 10 - 15 years is what i estimated the other links would take to
go online. for the first links (BRT1 or BRT2, BRT3 and BRT4), i estimate
around 5 years. normally, a BRT would take around 18 to 24 months to
establish. that's about 2 years. we are still at the study stage. if DOTC
can award the study by december, it will need about 10 months. which for
me is too long, i kept on telling them that. then if and when we go for a
decision (remember it will be national government/DOTC who has a final say)
we go through a series of processes in getting the funding and preparing
the engineering designs and everything. all in all, i think 5 years is safe
enough, we can do it sooner but looking back at how filipinos work ... i think
5 years is a good estimate.

diehardbisdak
November 30th, 2008, 02:21 PM
...mur'ag "saya" ni Lola! :lol:


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3236/3070056451_532a4e3663.jpg

I think this year's tree was designed to withstand strong winds. :)

zidlakan
November 30th, 2008, 02:25 PM
and also sir. why does it have to take around 20 years to fully phase out those jeepneys. i really hate those jeepneys. i always get road rage coz sa ilang pagka dili m.follow sa rules. but i understand them coz they're making a living. the more passenger they get the better. so we cant really blame them. why dont we get rid of that mentality of those drivers (the more passenger the better even if they dont follow rules). i think the brt will really solve this. coz if their salary will be fixed for a day or for a month then there's no use of competing for passengers. that way we could demand that they follow the rules and i think they would oblige.

and one thing sir, jeepneys are a bit of eyesores. they dont look good. we promote our city as the best tourist destination but our streets dont look that good. its chaotic and polluted.

but hopefully if the brt is fully implemented. the city could even gain so much money from it through ads. the city could rent the buses (ung sa sides nya) as ads. dba? thats big money.

i understand. he he he. i do get road rage, too, sometimes. but we have
to understand urban transport. the BRT is not a cure-all ... it only serves
links which needs higher capacities for mass transport. it can't serve, for
example ... urgello-private routes and the like.

eventually the brt will replace main transport corridors as i have illustrated.
but most of the side routes will still be served by jeepneys. we have to
do other things to make the jeepney more palatable and desirable ... like
what you saif, making them less of an eyesore ... instilling more road
discipline, etc., etc. all these things we have to do, we can't just rely on
one form of solution. everywhere around the world this is the mechanics -
urban mass transportation takes care of transport corridors; other forms
of transport serves as feeder systems.

marxman
November 30th, 2008, 02:38 PM
hmmm .... the 10 - 15 years is what i estimated the other links would take to
go online. for the first links (BRT1 or BRT2, BRT3 and BRT4), i estimate
around 5 years. normally, a BRT would take around 18 to 24 months to
establish. that's about 2 years. we are still at the study stage. if DOTC
can award the study by december, it will need about 10 months. which for
me is too long, i kept on telling them that. then if and when we go for a
decision (remember it will be national government/DOTC who has a final say)
we go through a series of processes in getting the funding and preparing
the engineering designs and everything. all in all, i think 5 years is safe
enough, we can do it sooner but looking back at how filipinos work ... i think
5 years is a good estimate.

im a bit sad with the statement sir "all in all, i think 5 years is safe
enough, we can do it sooner but looking back at how filipinos work ... i think
5 years is a good estimate." well i guess thats reality with us filipinos. thats the reason why we lag behind. thats the reason why we're a poor country. but we're cebuanos and we do not really reflect how the whole philippines work. maybe we could make it atleast 3 years. we did all we can in 1 year. then the b*lls**t national government will do the rest (approving) in 2 years.

what do you say sir?

sir pwde p.suggest kay mayor tommy na unilaterally m.declare ta nga federal state ang cebu. hehe! para we dont have to ask the national government for funding.

marxman
November 30th, 2008, 02:42 PM
anyway sir how do we instill discipline to those drivers? if you ask me id get rid of the reason why they're not following the rules. and thats coz of the competition for passengers.

that way we dont have to hire so many citom personnels. na usahay wala rba jud mga gamit. coz they themselves understand that the drivers are just making a living. and no matter how strict they are the drivers will really find a way coz its their livelihood were talking about.

leylander
November 30th, 2008, 03:00 PM
Crown Regency's Edge-coaster

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3231/3070222939_1d199b8b20.jpg

diehardbisdak
November 30th, 2008, 03:24 PM
^^ ....and the SKYWALK (underneath sa coaster)


......powerful kaayo nga camera gigamit...nice!

LordCarnal
November 30th, 2008, 03:38 PM
The Papal Nuncio visited Cebu a while ago...

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk242/cebuheritage/november_30/PapalNuncio01_IMG_6131.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk242/cebuheritage/november_30/PapalNuncio02_IMG_6153.jpg

LordCarnal
November 30th, 2008, 03:40 PM
Ricardo Cardinal Vidal's episcopal ordination anniversary a while ago at the Cebu Metropolitan Cathedral

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk242/cebuheritage/november_30/Vidal03_IMG_6205.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk242/cebuheritage/november_30/Vidal04_IMG_6200.jpg

The cardinal in a reflective mood.

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk242/cebuheritage/november_30/Vidal01_IMG_6235.jpg

The SSC-Cebu maniniyots

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk242/cebuheritage/november_30/Vidal02_IMG_6240.jpg

Sinjin P.
November 30th, 2008, 04:27 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3236/3070056451_532a4e3663.jpg

I think this year's tree was designed to withstand strong winds. :)

Nice and colorful. Asa'y mas nindot, karon or last year?

SleMarKen
November 30th, 2008, 04:48 PM
-edit-

diehardbisdak
November 30th, 2008, 05:12 PM
..of course, mas naa'y "arrrive" ang last year's X'Mas Tree...karon, mura man og "saya" sa akong Lola...joke!


Nice and colorful. Asa'y mas nindot, karon or last year?

Sinjin P.
November 30th, 2008, 05:15 PM
^ Sige, dili lang sa nato ijudge. Basig naa'y WOW factor inig siga sa mga suga. :lol:

davaob4now
November 30th, 2008, 05:26 PM
...unsa 'to nga pic bai? i mean, asa part sa Cebu gipakita sa banner...?

katong last nga cebu banner...when gani to siya?

Baka nakacache lang 'yung Cebu banner sa PC mo kaya 'yun ang una mong nakita. ;)

hindi po...malalaman kopo talaga ang SSC banner of the day kasi advance ng 2 hours ang Australia sa Pilipinas...

Cebuski78
November 30th, 2008, 05:27 PM
...nice pic bai...unsa imo gamit ani bai?

..pwede pang-next banner sa SSC Cebu...heheh!

sakto! Nindot! pwede kayo pang SSC banner! GO :cheers: :lol:

diehardbisdak
November 30th, 2008, 05:28 PM
...another Cebuano Brand....PROJEKT: a threat to IKEA? (long shot, but why not!)


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Couple introduces do-it-yourself furniture, furnishings to market
Sun Star Online
December 1, 2008

WHEN times are difficult, consumers spend more wisely: buy only what is essential, be more particular about value-for-money and, whenever possible, do things on their own.

This is why couple Oliver and Tet Ko believe that their shop of do-it-yourself (DIY) furniture and furnishings, Projekt, will be a hit in Cebu even as consumers become more prudent.

“We want to give people furniture pieces that they can bring home immediately and not wait for the store personnel to deliver,” Oliver said. “The items we have here are also very affordable, cheaper than custom-made furniture, yet very functional.”

All furniture pieces and furnishings are packaged in a flat box and can be transported with ease. All packages come with a manual to guide the buyer how to assemble the item and, when applicable, an Allen wrench.

“With these items, you save a lot because you don’t have to hire somebody to make the furniture for you. You do it yourself, which is also fun,” Oliver said. He assured that assembling all furniture pieces are easy.

The idea for Projekt is patterned after a popular Swedish furniture and furnishings retailer. But Tet said all furniture pieces and furnishings at Projekt are “proudly made in Cebu.”

“We want to show Cebuanos and Filipinos, in general, that we can come up with something like this,” she said, adding that it is time to change the notion that Philippine products of good quality are only for exports.

The shop, located on the ground floor of Parkmall@168 at the Mandaue City reclamation area, showcases a stool that can also be used as side table, a love seat, bathroom furniture, shelves, chairs, dining and center tables and benches.

The furniture pieces are ideal for small spaces, simple yet classy as they are all made of wood.

Tet, a designer of fashion accessories, said the furniture pieces also allow flexibility so buyers can mix and match.

The Kos said they can also guide customers about what pieces look good together.

Oliver said he decided to venture into DIY furniture business to maximize his investment in a kiln dryer, which he bought for his pallet business. (LAP)

SleMarKen
November 30th, 2008, 05:30 PM
^^ yeah, nice ang ilaha products.

Sinjin P.
November 30th, 2008, 05:32 PM
hindi po...malalaman kopo talaga ang SSC banner of the day kasi advance ng 2 hours ang Australia sa Pilipinas...

Nope sometimes it's really like that. Mastore sa imong cache ang banner sa previous month kay ang filename sa mga banners, numbers ra man (1 to 31) so for the next month ireplace ra ang file for that date, mao nang usahay kailangan jud iclear ang cache to see the updated banner. :)

leylander
November 30th, 2008, 05:37 PM
mas nindotan ko sa christmas tree karon. simple dayon dili kaayo prone sa tumba2x (murag ila gyud ni giconsider nga possibility) nindot pud in the evening.

leylander
November 30th, 2008, 05:39 PM
@ nold,

unsay cebuano sa 'nuncio'?

davaob4now
November 30th, 2008, 05:42 PM
Nope sometimes it's really like that. Mastore sa imong cache ang banner sa previous month kay ang filename sa mga banners, numbers ra man (1 to 31) so for the next month ireplace ra ang file for that date, mao nang usahay kailangan jud iclear ang cache to see the updated banner. :)

di lang po ako ang nakakita, dami po...

actually im clearing my cache every week...:)

diehardbisdak
November 30th, 2008, 06:04 PM
Hilton - flickr pic by @nukleus00

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3220/3070424569_5bec5b575c.jpg?v=0

diehardbisdak
November 30th, 2008, 06:25 PM
14 Cebu towns get an upgrade
By Gregg M. Rubio
Philstar (Freeman) Online
December 01, 2008 12:00 AM


At least 14 municipalities in the province of Cebu have been upgraded to a higher classification while one has been downgraded by the Bureau of Local Government Finance of the Department of Budget and Management.

The new first class municipalities are Bantayan, Consolacion, Daanbantayan, Dalaguete and Liloan. They now join Balamban and Minglanilla in the list of first class towns.

New second class municipalities are Barili, Medellin and Pinamungahan joining to San Fernando and Tuburan in the classification.

Badian, Compostela, San Francisco and Tabogon are now third class towns joining the towns of Asturias, Carmen, Dumanjug and Sibonga.

Upgraded to fourth class municipalities are Santa Fe and Santander joining the towns of Alegria, Aloguinsan, Catmon, Madridejos, Moalboal, Oslob, Poro, Sogod and Tabuelan.

Alcantara, Alcoy, Boljoon, Ginatilan, Malabuyoc, Pilar, Samboan and Tudela remain as fifth class municipalities.

While others got an upgrade, the town of Argao, which is one of the most popular tourist stops in the south, has been downgraded from a second class municipality to third class.

Not in the list are the towns of Borbon, Cordova, Ronda and San Remigio.

But in the Memorandum Circular No. 01-M (25)-08 dated November 18, 2008 issued by BLGF-DOF executive director Ma. Presentacion Montesa, it was stated that “a newly converted/created/merged municipality not included in the listings herein shall be classified tentatively on the basis of its Average Annual Income actually realized during the last four calendar years immediately preceding the year of classification.

According to the municipal resource profile of the Department of Trade and Industry, Borbon, Cordova and San Remigio are classified as fifth class municipalities while Ronda is sixth class.

The reclassification of the towns was based on the financial statements submitted for 2004 to 2007.

Pursuant to Section 2 of Deoartment Order No. 23-08, the classification of municipalities shall be based on the income bracket — P55-million or more for first class, P45-million or more but less than P55-million for second class, P35-million or more but less than P45-million for third class, P25-million or more but less than P35-million for fourth class, P15-million or more but less than P25-million for fifth class and below P15-million for sixth class.

The said Memorandum Circular further stated that on the basis of their respective average annual income for calendar years 2004-2007, as certified by COA, the new classification of the municipalities of the Province of Cebu have taken effect last July 29, 2008. –/NLQ

diehardbisdak
November 30th, 2008, 06:30 PM
...another award given to Shang Mactan!


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CHI: The Spa at Shangri-La Mactan named Favorite Spa in RP
Philstar (Freeman) Online
December 01, 2008 12:00 AM


CHI, The Spa at Shangri-La’s Mactan Resort and Spa, Cebu received the “Spa in the Philippines” award at the sixth annual SpaFinder Readers’ Choice Awards.

The award was formally presented at an invitation-only gala at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel in New York in October 2008. Nearly 250,000 votes—a record for the Readers’ Choice Awards—were submitted worldwide by readers of SpaFinder publications, including Spafinder.com, making the awards the most complete consumer assessment of the global spa market.

Reflecting the rapid globalization of the spa industry, SpaFinder readers and web visitors selected their favorite spas globally—from traditional spa destinations such as Thailand and the Caribbean, to emerging spa markets such as China, Russia and the Czech Republic. Ballots were cast for more than 1,500 spa properties around the globe.

“Now in its sixth year, our Readers’ Choice Awards are without question the global spa industry’s premier awards—our answer to the Academy Awards,” said SpaFinder, Inc. President Susie Ellis.

Also recently, Futuresse was awarded the “Best Product Signature Body Treatment” at the Asia Crystal Awards 2008. The Futuresse “The Power of Lotus” body treatment was selected from a short list of five nominees that also included Biodroga’s “Beauty In Harmony.” The Futuresse “Eternal Beauty of the Lotus” and the Biodroga “Golden Caviar” treatments were among the top five nominees in the “Best Product Signature Facial Experience” category. Both Futuresse and Biodroga spa and skin care brands are exclusive to CHI, The Spa in the Philippines.

The Spa Asia Crystal Awards is an annual event organized by SpaAsia to honor the crème de la crème of the spa and wellness industry. The event, already in its fifth year, was held at The Palace of the Golden Horses Hotel in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia and was attended by over 200 industry professionals from around the globe.

“With over a thousand hotels and destination spas operating worldwide, our being singled out both for our treatment products and service represents a significant honor,” said Lyndell Nelis, CHI, The Spa’s area coordinator for the Philippines.

CHI, The Spa at Shangri-La draws inspiration from the origin of the “Shangri-La” legend, offering a range of therapies based on the ancient healing traditions, philosophies and rituals of China and the Himalayas, as well as traditional therapies of the area in which CHI is located. In Cebu, the Philippines, CHI offers an extensive treatment menu featuring indigenous ingredients such as virgin coconut oil, barako coffee, sampaguita flowers, pito-pito herbs, banana leaves, mango, papaya and Philippine lime. CHI signature therapies include the award-winning Hilot, a healing massage based on time-honored Filipino folk medicine, the Harmony Massage, the Himalayan Healing Stone Massage, the Mountain Tsampa and Chi’atsu (CHI Water Shiatsu).

Kiddoboy_iAn
November 30th, 2008, 08:22 PM
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/Alingatong/SSC/cebu10.jpg

Love it! :cheers:


I Love this Pic!! Great shot! :)

jrevalde
December 1st, 2008, 01:05 AM
14 Cebu towns get an upgrade
By Gregg M. Rubio
Philstar (Freeman) Online
December 01, 2008 12:00 AM


At least 14 municipalities in the province of Cebu have been upgraded to a higher classification while one has been downgraded by the Bureau of Local Government Finance of the Department of Budget and Management.

The new first class municipalities are Bantayan, Consolacion, Daanbantayan, Dalaguete and Liloan. They now join Balamban and Minglanilla in the list of first class towns.

New second class municipalities are Barili, Medellin and Pinamungahan joining to San Fernando and Tuburan in the classification.

Badian, Compostela, San Francisco and Tabogon are now third class towns joining the towns of Asturias, Carmen, Dumanjug and Sibonga.

Upgraded to fourth class municipalities are Santa Fe and Santander joining the towns of Alegria, Aloguinsan, Catmon, Madridejos, Moalboal, Oslob, Poro, Sogod and Tabuelan.

Alcantara, Alcoy, Boljoon, Ginatilan, Malabuyoc, Pilar, Samboan and Tudela remain as fifth class municipalities.

While others got an upgrade, the town of Argao, which is one of the most popular tourist stops in the south, has been downgraded from a second class municipality to third class.

Not in the list are the towns of Borbon, Cordova, Ronda and San Remigio.

But in the Memorandum Circular No. 01-M (25)-08 dated November 18, 2008 issued by BLGF-DOF executive director Ma. Presentacion Montesa, it was stated that “a newly converted/created/merged municipality not included in the listings herein shall be classified tentatively on the basis of its Average Annual Income actually realized during the last four calendar years immediately preceding the year of classification.

According to the municipal resource profile of the Department of Trade and Industry, Borbon, Cordova and San Remigio are classified as fifth class municipalities while Ronda is sixth class.

The reclassification of the towns was based on the financial statements submitted for 2004 to 2007.

Pursuant to Section 2 of Deoartment Order No. 23-08, the classification of municipalities shall be based on the income bracket — P55-million or more for first class, P45-million or more but less than P55-million for second class, P35-million or more but less than P45-million for third class, P25-million or more but less than P35-million for fourth class, P15-million or more but less than P25-million for fifth class and below P15-million for sixth class.

The said Memorandum Circular further stated that on the basis of their respective average annual income for calendar years 2004-2007, as certified by COA, the new classification of the municipalities of the Province of Cebu have taken effect last July 29, 2008. –/NLQ

I'm happy that Dalaguete has been upgraded to 1st class mun., my family is from there...I've heard that they also have a UV branch there as well i think. its a bit sad what happened to Argao, progressive gyud kayo ni nga town sauna, di kaha ni kay na mismanage sa mayor o unsa, spending all that money defacing argao's heritage structures instead of investing in something nga naay economic return

Sinjin P.
December 1st, 2008, 02:00 AM
mas nindotan ko sa christmas tree karon. simple dayon dili kaayo prone sa tumba2x (murag ila gyud ni giconsider nga possibility) nindot pud in the evening.

So nagsiga na diay ni?

Bhan Jojo Ngoi
December 1st, 2008, 05:09 AM
7th district for Cebu sought
Monday, December 1, 2008

CEBU CITY -- Except for Representative Raul del Mar, Cebu delegates to the House of Representatives have signed congressman Pablo Garcia’s bill to create a new district for Cebu Province.

House Bill 5178 seeks to create a seventh district out of eight towns in the present 15-town second district, which Garcia represents.

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“With a total population of 3,050,110 for its six legislative districts, Cebu Province is under-represented and is justified to have more than its present six (districts),” the former Cebu governor wrote in his bill.

Garcia said it would only be “fair and equitable” for Cebu Province to have more than six congressional districts, if “possible as many as 12 representative districts.”

“The more districts, the better for the Province,” said Garcia’s son Pablo John, congressman of the third district.

“The second district especially needs to be reconfigured because it has 15 municipalities — the most number among six districts — dividing the same pie.”

In a telephone interview, congressman del Mar said he did not sign House Bill 5178 as a co-author because he is a legislator of the city, not the Province. He was also not asked to endorse the measure, he said.

Del Mar is optimistic, though, that the elder Garcia’s bill will be approved without any hitch. “That is as good as done, time permitting, because nobody will oppose that, the other congressmen in the Province support it,” he said.

Division

City Representative Antonio Cuenco said he signed the bill as a co-author when Garcia sought his endorsement.

Garcia’s bill does not call for a plebiscite, but Cuenco said that is no longer necessary as the Local Government Code requires a plebiscite only for the creation of a new barangay, district or city.

The proposal to create another district in Cebu City has hit a snag because Cuenco and del Mar cannot agree yet on how to go about the division.

Cuenco, who represents the south district, said Sunday that he wants to create a new district out of the city’s 34 mountain barangays in both the south and north districts and seven barangays surrounding the Pardo area, but del Mar is not agreeable to it.

“The proposal for a new district (in the city) is still hanging; it’s up in the air. Cebu City’s population is definitely more than 750,000 and it’s allowed to have one more district. But the problem is he (del Mar) is not in favor of creating a new district wherein the number of barangays in his district will be depleted. He does not want to lose his barangays,” Cuenco said in a phone interview.

In a separate interview, del Mar said Cuenco can pursue the plan to create a new district without including north district barangays, since the population in the south would suffice.

Results of the August 2007 census showed that Cebu City has a population of 798,806. The north district has 372,099 while the south district has 426,707, which is still not sufficient to form two districts.

Option

The Local Government Code provides that a population of 250,000 is needed to form one district.

“If congressman del Mar insists on his position, kulangon gyud mi sa population... I will not criticize him for that, but it would be easier if he agrees. I will still try to convince him,” Cuenco said.

Del Mar said he is still open to discussing the matter with Cuenco if there is a need to include some north district barangays in the proposed central district.

Dividing the south district into two is also an option, but Cuenco said he wants to carefully evaluate and consult the public on this.

“I’m hesitant to do this because the population for each district would be less than 250,000. But I was told it can be done because other cities (Makati, Mandaluyong and San Juan) have done it, and the Constitution requires 250,000 or a ‘fraction thereof’. That phrase makes a difference. I have not made any decision yet because I don’t want to make a mistake,” Cuenco said.

The elder Garcia, in proposing the creation of a new congressional district, cited the cases of Davao Oriental, Agusan del Norte, Makati City, Biliran, Siquijor, Camiguin and Dinagat Island.

The Cebu Provincial Board previously passed a resolution asking the eight Cebu legislators for a law increasing the number of legislative districts in Cebu Province.

“Unfortunately, the incumbent representatives of the Province of Cebu have encountered serious difficulties and problems in the course of the process of consultations with their constituents in the municipalities and cities that may be affected by the proposed redistricting,” said Pablo Garcia.

Spread thinly

While redistricting in the five congressional districts seems “extremely difficult, if not impossible, to achieve at this time,” the creation of at least one additional district “may be reached in the second legislative district of the Province.”

Garcia’s district is composed of 15 towns, further split into 284 barangays. Given such a large area, the lawmaker’s Priority Development Assistance Funds do not suffice for “constituency services.”

“It is easy to see that the allocation for the second district of Cebu is spread thinly among 15 municipalities and 284 barangays. And yet these are the very poor municipalities and barangays that are most in need of a bigger share of the national resources and services for their development and upliftment,” he said.

The bill was filed last September 23 and is pending with the House committee on local government. (GMD/LCR/Sun.Star Cebu)

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
December 1st, 2008, 06:05 AM
sayang, I miss the feature of Umagang Kay Ganda of Plantation Bay today . Winnie Cordero went to Plantation....:wallbash::uh::cry:

nitanaw man gud ko sa final epi sa Urban Zone featuring Kenneth Cobonpue, the concept behind Creative Cebu British Council and Arzani..:cheers:

concern
December 1st, 2008, 06:26 AM
Start of December.. Merry Christmas! :banana:

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/klemzhu/photography/DSC03888.jpg

klemzhou phto's frm istorya

concern
December 1st, 2008, 06:32 AM
mata na ug sau kay simbang gabi nah.. :D

federalist
December 1st, 2008, 07:28 AM
I'm happy that Dalaguete has been upgraded to 1st class mun., my family is from there...I've heard that they also have a UV branch there as well i think. its a bit sad what happened to Argao, progressive gyud kayo ni nga town sauna, di kaha ni kay na mismanage sa mayor o unsa, spending all that money defacing argao's heritage structures instead of investing in something nga naay economic return

from 4th class to 1st class.

yes Argao has been very progressive. so sad, they are now downgraded to a 3rd class municipality.

leylander
December 1st, 2008, 08:52 AM
The 3 Towers of midtown Cebu

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3218/3071042158_f06146db63.jpg

concern
December 1st, 2008, 10:08 AM
^^ how about night photography ani na vicinity.. with christmas tree and the towers..

diehardbisdak
December 1st, 2008, 10:29 AM
^^ demanding...joke lang bai...taga-i'g pinaskuhan ang mga maniniyot bai para ma-return ang favor...heheheh!

Alingatong
December 1st, 2008, 12:00 PM
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/Alingatong/SSC/cebu12.jpg

concern
December 1st, 2008, 12:02 PM
^^ tagaan nato ug Nikon D3 bai..hehehe.. SR18,750 costs..hehehe

concern
December 1st, 2008, 12:03 PM
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/Alingatong/SSC/cebu12.jpg

nice one! more to go..

Alingatong
December 1st, 2008, 12:05 PM
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/Alingatong/SSC/cebu13.jpg

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/Alingatong/SSC/cebu14.jpg

Alingatong
December 1st, 2008, 12:19 PM
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/Alingatong/SSC/cebu15.jpg

:cheers:

concern
December 1st, 2008, 12:24 PM
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/Alingatong/SSC/cebu14.jpg

good job! :D

leylander
December 1st, 2008, 12:53 PM
gi-introduce ang miss cebu 2009 contestants ganina sa fuente. mga gwapa. hehe

slimer
December 1st, 2008, 03:10 PM
Christmas in The Northwing!

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/7513/christmastreecd9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

pomperadz@yahoo.com
December 1st, 2008, 03:14 PM
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/Alingatong/SSC/cebu15.jpg

:cheers:

nice shots bro..ganda ng cebu!

concern
December 1st, 2008, 03:53 PM
Christmas in The Northwing!

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/7513/christmastreecd9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

awesome, same sa MOA

henji
December 1st, 2008, 04:04 PM
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/Alingatong/SSC/cebu13.jpg

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/Alingatong/SSC/cebu14.jpg


sir, when lang ka byahe sa Cebu? pila ka days?

diehardbisdak
December 1st, 2008, 04:17 PM
^^ dili sab palupig ang Ayala Center...



flickr pic by @jihwang
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3039/3025044278_52477b713c_o.jpg


sorry sa small pic...heheheh! (pic by @raj_belleza)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3053/3066468413_d85e39fe68_m.jpg

Sinjin P.
December 1st, 2008, 04:37 PM
^ Actually, nag-una ang ACC. Recently ra na nagbutang ang SM, kita pa ko ana giset-up last week. Ang sa Ayala kay nagset-up na pag last week sa October. ;)

leylander
December 1st, 2008, 05:31 PM
kanang xmas tree sa ayala kay gipalit na gikan waterfront. mao na ang xmas tree nga halos abot sa ceiling sa waterfront pag 2007

diehardbisdak
December 1st, 2008, 06:47 PM
...na-a diay lighting-of-xmas-tree ceremony ganina


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3235/3074818146_da11a30a41.jpg?v=0

concern
December 1st, 2008, 07:22 PM
^^ cool...

jmaunes
December 1st, 2008, 08:07 PM
...na-a diay lighting-of-xmas-tree ceremony ganina


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3235/3074818146_da11a30a41.jpg?v=0

NICE!!!

BTW.. naa bay day rate ang shang or plantation? My friends are planning to go there sa Saturday of the Sinulog weekend. If gikan ka Cebu City ana na satuday traffic ba padung Mactan? Thanks

Cebuski78
December 1st, 2008, 08:21 PM
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/Alingatong/SSC/cebu13.jpg

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/Alingatong/SSC/cebu14.jpg

daghana pwede pang banner sa SSC oi..:banana:

flesh_is_weak
December 1st, 2008, 10:12 PM
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/Alingatong/SSC/cebu11.jpg

nice one...looks like a Japanese city to me...

@zidlakan: is there any chance for a BRT route that would serve the airport?

@arnold: dili lagi packed ang cathedral? by invitation only ang ceremony?

animasola
December 2nd, 2008, 12:57 AM
^^IMO, there should be a special express line that travels between the airport and city center/terminal, ayala perhaps? This express line would have more expensive fares though.

tonight
December 2nd, 2008, 06:45 AM
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/Alingatong/SSC/cebu11.jpg

this reminds me when going back to cebu for study :)

i love cebu :banana::banana::banana:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
December 2nd, 2008, 06:47 AM
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/Alingatong/SSC/cebu11.jpg

grabe ka nice, with matching fog! looks like small "HK"...:cheers:

tonight
December 2nd, 2008, 06:53 AM
nice jud especially sunrise :)

marxman
December 2nd, 2008, 07:15 AM
we need more glass facade buildings. para m.shine jud siya. ang tall bldg. near sa sm kay dili mklaro. hehe!

concern
December 2nd, 2008, 08:43 AM
^^ after 3-5 years mas nindot ang view inig sunrise

concern
December 2nd, 2008, 08:54 AM
Maayong Pasko Cebu!


http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc15/redseahorse/3075225663_503dab0bec.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc15/redseahorse/3076057392_457f73b9a5.jpg
by redseahorse of istorya

AmbutLang
December 2nd, 2008, 09:01 AM
Nice pics.

Ngano wala man naka on ang trimming suga sa Ultima. Sa uban pics nagsiga man? Sa front view ra ang naay suga? Wala pa diay suga ang duha ka elevator nila?

diehardbisdak
December 2nd, 2008, 09:32 AM
flickr pic by @oscarmachaconjr

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3274/3076575500_2c116ea7da.jpg

diehardbisdak
December 2nd, 2008, 09:34 AM
...the Terraces at a different angle....flickr pic by @superlolo

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3253/3074287395_67b9347d93_o.jpg

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
December 2nd, 2008, 10:25 AM
^^

I cant wait for those trees to grow some more leaves! :lol::lol::okay:

rustyboi
December 2nd, 2008, 11:32 AM
Breaking News:

Lapu-lapu City Government filed a case just today against Imperial Palace Resort, Mactan for Illegal Quarrying. they were caught airlifting white sand extracted underwater by police and the sea patrol. as of press time, Imperial Palace is willing to face charges against them but denied the allegation. (mura nakog reporter ani.)

By the way, the Christmas Tree at Fuente is said to be 115 feet tall.

habagatcentral1
December 2nd, 2008, 11:36 AM
IMO, looks like the Christmas tree today at Fuente is austere than compared to previous years yet it still manages to hold its message of Christmas. :)

Alingatong
December 2nd, 2008, 12:34 PM
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/Alingatong/SSC/cebu16.jpg

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/Alingatong/SSC/cebu17.jpg

Can't help falling in love with Cebu. :cheers:

AmbutLang
December 2nd, 2008, 12:56 PM
Breaking News:

Lapu-lapu City Government filed a case just today against Imperial Palace Resort, Mactan for Illegal Quarrying. they were caught airlifting white sand extracted underwater by police and the sea patrol. as of press time, Imperial Palace is willing to face charges against them but denied the allegation. (mura nakog reporter ani.)

I think that is not illegal. This is what the U.S. Army Corps Engineers are doing up and down the Eastern seaboard. Everytime there is a hurricane or heavy beach errosion along the coast, the ship will dredge the Ocean front and return the sand to the beach front where the State Park of its States inspection of errosion. The Army Corps of Engineers are all over the place like Mississippi River from Louisiana to Minnesota, New York Hudson River for shipping lanes.Aron dili masangad ang cruise and cargo ships. Sometimes they have some barges tagging along with them. Murag dakong vacuum cleaner nga bargo together with the crane barges.
The Philippines should have this type Army Corps of Engineers.

SleMarKen
December 2nd, 2008, 01:03 PM
Kumusta ang launching sa PASKO SA SUGBO gabii sa Fuente?

@Berns, belated Happy Bithday ang Happy Birthday to Parekoy Markoy ;)

-slerz-

SleMarKen
December 2nd, 2008, 01:14 PM
...na-a diay lighting-of-xmas-tree ceremony ganina


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3235/3074818146_da11a30a41.jpg?v=0


Ah yah, this is what I mean...

Since 2005, dili gyud ko absent aning launching sa PASKO sa SUGBO every 1st day of December sa Fuente Circle. Together with the countdown of the lighting of the giant Christmas Tree with the City officials and the Lhullier family and ofcourse the grand fireworks display @ exactly 7pm... Nindot man ang Christmas Tree inig gabii.

diehardbisdak
December 2nd, 2008, 02:45 PM
...na-a man ni sa Pilipinas bai...hehhe...illegal gyud kay gamiton ra man nila para panindot sa ilang beachline...hehehhe!


I think that is not illegal. This is what the U.S. Army Corps Engineers are doing up and down the Eastern seaboard. Everytime there is a hurricane or heavy beach errosion along the coast, the ship will dredge the Ocean front and return the sand to the beach front where the State Park of its States inspection of errosion. The Army Corps of Engineers are all over the place like Mississippi River from Louisiana to Minnesota, New York Hudson River for shipping lanes.Aron dili masangad ang cruise and cargo ships. Sometimes they have some barges tagging along with them. Murag dakong vacuum cleaner nga bargo together with the crane barges.
The Philippines should have this type Army Corps of Engineers.

dongRoy
December 2nd, 2008, 02:52 PM
Sir Paul, can these feeder routes be incorporated into the transit system as well? If we can not place the BRT on short routes, what if all these short routes would be merged into one single, yet very long BRT type route? Not necessarily a one with dedicated Busway per se but, one with stops that are integrated with the major BRT routes For example:

Start -> Interchange Station South Highway cor. F.Llamas Mambaling - F.Llamas Punta Princesa - F. Llamas Tisa - Katipunan Rd. Tisa - Salvador Labangon - R. Duterte Banawa - V.Rama Banawa -V. Rama Englis - Alcantara Urgello - Interchange StationLeon Kilat St. - Interchange Station Colon St. cor. Osmeña Blvd.- Cebu Heritage - Interchange Station Sikatuna cor. Imus - Gen. Echavez cor. Gen. Maxilom cor. Gorordo Ave.Interchange with feeder route - Interchange Station Gorordo Ave. cor. N. Escario St.- J.Y. Square - Salinas Drive - Interchange Station J. Luna Ave. cor. M.J. Cuenco - Interchange Station SM City <- End Loop

A loop that runs from -> Interchange StationCarbon Market - Magallanes - Climaco St.- Colon St. - C. Padilla - T. Abella - Taboan - V. Rama - B. Rodriguez - Gen. Maxilom cor. Gen. Echavez cor. Gorodo Ave. Interchange station with feeder route- Interchange StationGen. Maxilom cor. S. Osmeña Blvd. - Port Area - Plaza Independencia - City Hall - Interchange StationCarbon Market <- End loop

Other shorter routes that can be served by jeepneys would be (and hoping the we would implement the e-jeepneys similar to that of Makati's - only with bigger leg room):

From BRT Station in Pardo - Pardo Church - E. Sabellano Pardo - E. Sabellano Quiot - E. Sabellano Punta Princesa - Interchange Station with Feeder route F.Llamas cor. E. Sabellano cor. Tres de Abril Punta Princesa - Tres de Abril Punta Princesa - Left turn to Katipunan St. Labangon - Interchange Station with feeder route Katipunan St. cor. Salvador Labangon <- End Loop U-turn or roundabout

Some routes in the northern area I am not familiar with but would be similar to such scheme. And ako man gung gihunahuna anang naa pa gihapon nga mga jeep kay kung musulod pa gihapon na sila sa mga dalan nga naa na'y BRT, samot kahuot ang dalan. And another thing, if ang jeepneys would serve sa feeder routes, pasabot ana, mga galainlain lang gihapon ang tag-iya sa jeep, hence ang plete nato, madoble na: muplete pa ta sa jeep then muplete nasad ta sa BRT.

habagatcentral1
December 2nd, 2008, 03:12 PM
^^ Imagine na lang nako ni:

"[DingDong Chimes] AS Fortuna Station, AS Fortuna Station. Kindly don't block on the doors for entering or leaving passengers. Palihog, ayaw i(block) ang agyanan para sa mga mosakay ug monaog nga mga pasahero. Daghang salamat! Next station, Wireless Mandaue. This bus/train is up to South Bus Terminal, ang mosunod nga estasyon ay Wireless Mandaue. Kining bus/tren kutob sa South Bus Terminal [DingDong Chimes]" :D

Just correct my Cebuano sentences there for discrepancies. :D

diehardbisdak
December 2nd, 2008, 03:16 PM
flickr pics by @digital_femme


Starbucks at The Terraces
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TGIF
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diehardbisdak
December 2nd, 2008, 03:18 PM
flickr pics by @digital_femme


Marriott
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...walkway to the hotel from terraces
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...view from the hotel's entrance (Globe and Lexmark towers, and CHI)
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dongRoy
December 2nd, 2008, 03:21 PM
^^ Imagine na lang nako ni:

"[DingDong Chimes] AS Fortuna Station, AS Fortuna Station. Kindly don't block on the doors for entering or leaving passengers. Palihog, ayaw i(block) ang agyanan para sa mga mosakay ug monaog nga mga pasahero. Daghang salamat! Next station, Wireless Mandaue. This bus/train is up to South Bus Terminal, ang mosunod nga estasyon ay Wireless Mandaue. Kining bus/tren kutob sa South Bus Terminal [DingDong Chimes]" :D

Just correct my Cebuano sentences there for discrepancies. :D

"[DingDong Chimes] AS Fortuna Station, AS Fortuna Station. Kindly don't block on the doors for entering or leaving passengers. Thank you. Palihog, ayaw babagi ang agi-anan para sa mga musakay ug munaog nga mga pasahero. Daghang salamat! Next station, Wireless Mandaue. This bus/train is up to South Bus Terminal. Ang sunod estasyon kay Wireless Mandaue. Kini nga bus/tren kutob sa South Bus Terminal [DingDong Chimes]"

diehardbisdak
December 2nd, 2008, 03:23 PM
flickr pic by @doctian

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diehardbisdak
December 2nd, 2008, 03:25 PM
Pasko na sa Sugbo!


flickr pics by @torboi
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rustyboi
December 2nd, 2008, 03:49 PM
"[DingDong Chimes] AS Fortuna Station, AS Fortuna Station. Kindly don't block on the doors for entering or leaving passengers. Thank you. Palihog, ayaw babagi ang agi-anan para sa mga musakay ug munaog nga mga pasahero. Daghang salamat! Next station, Wireless Mandaue. This bus/train is up to South Bus Terminal. Ang sunod estasyon kay Wireless Mandaue. Kini nga bus/tren kutob sa South Bus Terminal [DingDong Chimes]"

This should be it:

[DingDong Chimes] AS Fortuna Station, AS Fortuna Station. Kindly don't block on the doors for entering or leaving passengers. Thank you. AS Fortuna Station, AS Fortuna Station. No bloquee por favor en las puertas para inscribir o dejar a pasajeros. Gracias. (Korean), (Japanese), (Chinese Mandarin)

Next station, Wireless Mandaue. This bus is up to South Bus Terminal. Estación siguiente, Wireless Mandaue. Este autobús está hasta South Bus Terminal. (Korean), (Japanese), (Chinese Mandarin)
[DingDong Chimes]"

diehardbisdak
December 2nd, 2008, 04:47 PM
...guys, have you been to this new supermarket (brand) in Cebu?


**************


New supermarket brand opens outlet in Cebu, eyes more branches
Sun Star Online
Tuesday, December 2, 2008 - 10:33pm

SOME people find opportunities in crises, and the owners of the newest supermarket in Cebu City are among them.

Owners of Quickshoppe Supermart opened yesterday the supermarket’s first branch at the A! City Mall on P. del Rosario and Leon Kilat Sts., Cebu City as the country’s business community observes declining sales.

Quickshoppe Supermart Inc. remains optimistic about the supermarket and the local market even while many consumers become more prudent in their spending amid the global financial crisis. It said that Quickshoppe will be able to attract its target market because of its “very competitive prices” and operating hours.

An official of Quickshoppe Supermart Inc. who asked for anonymity said the supermarket is open between 6 a.m. and 10 p.m., to be able to serve consumers who are busy at work the whole day.

He said the store’s operating hours allow employees and company executives to take care of their household needs before or after their work.

“If there’s a crisis, there is an opportunity. It’s a matter of how you deal with it…although it’s very challenging,” he said.

Quickshoppe is unlike convenience stores, though. Prices of goods are “very competitive” with those in most major supermarkets, the company official said.

The new supermarket is bigger, occupying about 600 meters on the ground floor of the A! City Mall. It houses 11 counters and sells fresh food products, like meat and vegetables. The supermarket also plans to offer organic vegetables produced by farmers in Cebu.

The Quickshoppe official said the company hopes to be able to open more branches in strategic locations in Cebu City and in other parts of Cebu Province.

“We intend to branch out once we’ve settled here. But we cannot compete head-on with the big supermarkets … (so most probably) we cannot open in (major) malls,” the official said. “Our (edge) is that we give customers the opportunity to maximize their money because they are able to make savings here.”

Quickshoppe is also planning to offer delivery services and purchases through the Internet or through SMS (short messaging system).

As it is located within the Asian College of Technology (ACT) building, Quickshoppe Supermart employs underprivileged students of ACT. (LAP)

diehardbisdak
December 2nd, 2008, 06:26 PM
The Terraces is so gorgeous at night!


flickr pic by @edgar_j_ediza
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diehardbisdak
December 2nd, 2008, 06:30 PM
Osmeña Boulevard - flickr pic by @jenny_jabagat


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concern
December 2nd, 2008, 07:21 PM
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Cebuski78
December 2nd, 2008, 08:00 PM
I think that is not illegal. This is what the U.S. Army Corps Engineers are doing up and down the Eastern seaboard. Everytime there is a hurricane or heavy beach errosion along the coast, the ship will dredge the Ocean front and return the sand to the beach front where the State Park of its States inspection of errosion. The Army Corps of Engineers are all over the place like Mississippi River from Louisiana to Minnesota, New York Hudson River for shipping lanes.Aron dili masangad ang cruise and cargo ships. Sometimes they have some barges tagging along with them. Murag dakong vacuum cleaner nga bargo together with the crane barges.
The Philippines should have this type Army Corps of Engineers.

i think what their doing is much better than bringing sand from nearby islands...just like what miami did with their beaches,when most sand went to the bottom of the ocean due to the structures built near the beachline...

Cebuski78
December 2nd, 2008, 09:15 PM
CH gives go-signal to FLI’s P25-B proposal; officials still mum on Capitol’s bid
Linette C. Ramos
Sun.Star Staff Reporter

FILINVEST Land Inc. (FLI) will infuse a total equity of P25 billion, not P80 billion, in the joint venture with the Cebu City Government to develop a 50.6-hectare portion of the South Road Properties (SRP).

Even with limited details on the results of the negotiations between FLI and the City’s Joint Venture Selection Committee (JVSC), the City Council authorized the committee yesterday to proceed with the publication of FLI’s proposal, and to invite private entities to challenge it.

The special council session did not answer questions on whether local government units like the Provincial Government will be allowed to participate in the competitive challenge.

The council’s authorization to publish will allow the JVSC to collect P250 million from FLI later this week, before the invitation to pre-qualify and to submit a comparative proposal is published on Dec. 4 or 5.

City Administrator Francisco Fernandez said last night that FLI committed to invest an equity of only P25 billion for the project, as specified in the pre-qualification requirements.

FLI committed to construct 875,000 square meters of building space through an unincorporated joint venture with the City over a 20-year period, covering 50.6 hectares of land.

High-end medium and high-rise condominiums, office buildings, a retirement facility, commercial and recreational areas will be put up at the prime waterfront lots and properties along the South Coastal Road.

“The equity that they are committing is P25 billion. They only need to raise P25 billion to start the project and mao ra na ang ilang patuyok-tuyokon and at a certain point, it will reach P80 billion. So P25 billion ra sad ang kinahanglan sa mga challengers ana,” Fernandez told Sun.Star Cebu.

During the session, Councilor Nestor Archival asked the JVSC whether or not local government units will be allowed to participate in the joint venture, considering that the ordinance prescribing the joint venture guidelines covers only private entities.

“We would rather not comment on that. We will wait if there are proposals from local governments and if there are, I think that is when they would tackle it and consult legal luminaries and the city council. Until the deadline for the submission of proposals, it would be better if the JVSC refrains from commenting on that controversial matter,” Fernandez said.

A prospective challenger, the Cebu Provincial Government, did not attend the session.

‘Director’

“I am sure it (Filinvest presentation) will be covered by the media. We will make our reactions to the proposal after the meeting,” said lawyer and Capitol information and revenue generation consultant Rory Jon Sepulveda.

The Province also hit back at Mayor Tomas Osmeña, for saying that the Capitol cannot direct the affairs of the City Government, particularly in negotiations for the sale of SRP lots.

“At any rate, para sa Kapitolyo, we know that we cannot direct the city. There is only one director for the city and he’s doing his direction now through the use of his cellular phone. We don’t wish to become a director,” Sepulveda told a press conference.

Osmeña was reacting to the statement of Rep. Pablo John Garcia (Cebu Province, 3rd district) that the sale should be done through a competitive public bidding, and not a Swiss Challenge that violates the Local Government Code. He has also said the purchase of 10 hectares should be handled separately from the proposed joint venture to develop 40 hectares.

Sepulveda criticized a statement from the “director from Texas” that the City is simply following the National Economic Development Authority’s (Neda) guidelines on the
sale of SRP lots.

“Unfortunately, the director from Texas is not a lawyer. I’m telling him now he’s wrong. These Neda guidelines are not applicable to a local government unit,” he said.

Review

Businessman Crisologo Saavedra, who attended the presentation at the council session, said he will scrutinize both Filinvest’s proposal and the Provincial Government’s challenge.

“This is for the good of the Cebuanos and as part of my advocacy against corruption,” said Saavedra, who has filed cases at the Office of the Ombudsman to question allegedly anomalous government transactions.

At the session, Fernandez also told the council that FLI committed to compensate the City over a period of 20 years, including a minimum payment of P1.5 billion in cash, payable within the first three years.

In the joint venture component covering 40 hectares, FLI will also give the City 10 percent of the gross revenues from built condominium units, or a predetermined minimum guaranteed return, whichever is higher.

Fernandez did not disclose to the council the minimum guaranteed return, as the information would be made available only after the eligible bidders have been selected.

“If they are not able to sell any unit, then we get a minimum guaranteed return, which shall be over and above the price of the lot. But if they are able to sell, then we get 10 percent of their sales. This is what we are now offering to the public, for other private entities to challenge,” he told the council.

Ownership

Fernandez also assured the council that the City will remain the owner of the lot covered by the joint venture and that Filinvest will not be allowed to mortgage the property until it has fully paid for the lots through the annual share of the gross sales.

The JVSC will publish the invitation to bid in major local dailies twice, either on Dec. 4 or 5 and once more seven days after that.

The deadline for submission of eligibility documents is on Dec. 18, while the deadline for the submission of comparative proposals is 30 days after.

As stated in the pre-qualification requirements, any individual, partnership, corporation, firm or consortium, whether local or foreign, may participate in the competitive challenge.

Among other eligibility requirements, the prospective bidder or its affiliates should have at least 25 years of experience in real estate development in the country, and completed and developed a contiguous project of at least 35 hectares for a commercial business district costing at least P10 billion.

Since the minimum amount of the equity needed for the joint venture is P25 billion, the prospective bidder should be able to prove that it has access to an equivalent amount of capital.

If the bidder is a corporation, it must be a publicly listed company in the Philippine Stock Exchange and should have a stockholders’ equity of at least P20 billion. (With GMD & RHM

Cebuski78
December 2nd, 2008, 09:17 PM
CH gives go-signal to FLI’s P25-B proposal; officials still mum on Capitol’s bid
Linette C. Ramos
Sun.Star Staff Reporter

FILINVEST Land Inc. (FLI) will infuse a total equity of P25 billion, not P80 billion, in the joint venture with the Cebu City Government to develop a 50.6-hectare portion of the South Road Properties (SRP).

Even with limited details on the results of the negotiations between FLI and the City’s Joint Venture Selection Committee (JVSC), the City Council authorized the committee yesterday to proceed with the publication of FLI’s proposal, and to invite private entities to challenge it.

The special council session did not answer questions on whether local government units like the Provincial Government will be allowed to participate in the competitive challenge.

The council’s authorization to publish will allow the JVSC to collect P250 million from FLI later this week, before the invitation to pre-qualify and to submit a comparative proposal is published on Dec. 4 or 5.

City Administrator Francisco Fernandez said last night that FLI committed to invest an equity of only P25 billion for the project, as specified in the pre-qualification requirements.

FLI committed to construct 875,000 square meters of building space through an unincorporated joint venture with the City over a 20-year period, covering 50.6 hectares of land.

High-end medium and high-rise condominiums, office buildings, a retirement facility, commercial and recreational areas will be put up at the prime waterfront lots and properties along the South Coastal Road.

“The equity that they are committing is P25 billion. They only need to raise P25 billion to start the project and mao ra na ang ilang patuyok-tuyokon and at a certain point, it will reach P80 billion. So P25 billion ra sad ang kinahanglan sa mga challengers ana,” Fernandez told Sun.Star Cebu.

During the session, Councilor Nestor Archival asked the JVSC whether or not local government units will be allowed to participate in the joint venture, considering that the ordinance prescribing the joint venture guidelines covers only private entities.

“We would rather not comment on that. We will wait if there are proposals from local governments and if there are, I think that is when they would tackle it and consult legal luminaries and the city council. Until the deadline for the submission of proposals, it would be better if the JVSC refrains from commenting on that controversial matter,” Fernandez said.

A prospective challenger, the Cebu Provincial Government, did not attend the session.

‘Director’

“I am sure it (Filinvest presentation) will be covered by the media. We will make our reactions to the proposal after the meeting,” said lawyer and Capitol information and revenue generation consultant Rory Jon Sepulveda.

The Province also hit back at Mayor Tomas Osmeña, for saying that the Capitol cannot direct the affairs of the City Government, particularly in negotiations for the sale of SRP lots.

“At any rate, para sa Kapitolyo, we know that we cannot direct the city. There is only one director for the city and he’s doing his direction now through the use of his cellular phone. We don’t wish to become a director,” Sepulveda told a press conference.

Osmeña was reacting to the statement of Rep. Pablo John Garcia (Cebu Province, 3rd district) that the sale should be done through a competitive public bidding, and not a Swiss Challenge that violates the Local Government Code. He has also said the purchase of 10 hectares should be handled separately from the proposed joint venture to develop 40 hectares.

Sepulveda criticized a statement from the “director from Texas” that the City is simply following the National Economic Development Authority’s (Neda) guidelines on the
sale of SRP lots.

“Unfortunately, the director from Texas is not a lawyer. I’m telling him now he’s wrong. These Neda guidelines are not applicable to a local government unit,” he said.

Review

Businessman Crisologo Saavedra, who attended the presentation at the council session, said he will scrutinize both Filinvest’s proposal and the Provincial Government’s challenge.

“This is for the good of the Cebuanos and as part of my advocacy against corruption,” said Saavedra, who has filed cases at the Office of the Ombudsman to question allegedly anomalous government transactions.

At the session, Fernandez also told the council that FLI committed to compensate the City over a period of 20 years, including a minimum payment of P1.5 billion in cash, payable within the first three years.

In the joint venture component covering 40 hectares, FLI will also give the City 10 percent of the gross revenues from built condominium units, or a predetermined minimum guaranteed return, whichever is higher.

Fernandez did not disclose to the council the minimum guaranteed return, as the information would be made available only after the eligible bidders have been selected.

“If they are not able to sell any unit, then we get a minimum guaranteed return, which shall be over and above the price of the lot. But if they are able to sell, then we get 10 percent of their sales. This is what we are now offering to the public, for other private entities to challenge,” he told the council.

Ownership

Fernandez also assured the council that the City will remain the owner of the lot covered by the joint venture and that Filinvest will not be allowed to mortgage the property until it has fully paid for the lots through the annual share of the gross sales.

The JVSC will publish the invitation to bid in major local dailies twice, either on Dec. 4 or 5 and once more seven days after that.

The deadline for submission of eligibility documents is on Dec. 18, while the deadline for the submission of comparative proposals is 30 days after.

As stated in the pre-qualification requirements, any individual, partnership, corporation, firm or consortium, whether local or foreign, may participate in the competitive challenge.

Among other eligibility requirements, the prospective bidder or its affiliates should have at least 25 years of experience in real estate development in the country, and completed and developed a contiguous project of at least 35 hectares for a commercial business district costing at least P10 billion.

Since the minimum amount of the equity needed for the joint venture is P25 billion, the prospective bidder should be able to prove that it has access to an equivalent amount of capital.

If the bidder is a corporation, it must be a publicly listed company in the Philippine Stock Exchange and should have a stockholders’ equity of at least P20 billion. (With GMD & RHM

Jarenz
December 2nd, 2008, 09:51 PM
7 days to go...


Edge Coaster Grand Launching


Dec. 10, 2008 ... President Arroyo will be present

Dec. 11, 2008 - open to public

Entrance with skymeal (choice of sandwich & bottomless iced tea @ Php 380.00) and a ride (Sky Walk or Edge Coaster @ Php. 500.00)

First Top 8 Bidders will part of the record!


Mark Andrew Jorolan [markii Boi - SLEMARKEN] now on 9th list... Sayang!


Bidding will be close on Dec. 5, 2008


Mechanics


1.Bidders should be of legal age and in sound health and mind.

2. Bidder of Edge Coaster Ride must be at least 52" tall to ride the coaster.

3. Bidding starts as a first individual sets an amount.

4. The succeeding bidders will have to outbid the individual.

5. There will be 8 winners for the Edge Coaster Ride and 10 winners for the Skywalk Extreme.

6. Payment will be collected from the winners after the bidding have ended.

7. Winners will be notified on how to make their payments and will be invited on the opening date on December 10, 2008. They will take the ceremonial ride and walk as the First people to enjoy the Sky Experience Adventure! Travel expenses shall be shouldered by the bidders themselves to get to Crown Regency Hotel & Towers.

8. The Ceremonial ride and walk will be covered by media. Sky Experience Adventure reserves the right to use the photos and videos of the participants for advertisement and promotional purposes.


For more details... visit www.skyexperienceadventure.com

Jarenz
December 2nd, 2008, 09:53 PM
Crown Regency Hotel Fuente Tower 1

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40 Flr.

Extending from the 40th floor of the Crown Regency Hotel & Towers is an inverted centrifuge that will spin passengers at up to three G's. Insanity Orbit is the 2nd ride of its kind in the world patterned after the famous Las Vegas' Stratosphere that pulls the riders out in escape proof seats to an angle of 70 degrees.


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38 Flr.

Uniquely the world's very first and only amusement ride of its kind, the Edge Coaster goes around the edge of the building while riders are strapped onto a rail seat. High above at the 38th level, riders can indulge in a breathtaking view of the city and playfully pull a level that can tilt their seats up to 55 degrees.

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The Sky Observatory will offer the best view of the city with coin-operated binoculars and telescopes

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The Fun is literally sky's the limit at the Sky Bar. With floors made of thick, clear glass protruding out of the building, you can chill out with you closest buds, chat the night away with your favorite drinks in hand, and marvel at the city 38 floors below your feet.

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37 Flr.

Walk around the edge of the building while being tied to a safety harness. The Sky Walk Extreme will take you to a leisure trip at the sky and walk you on the clouds at the 37th floor.

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Dine with the lights and the sound of live bands at the 37th floor! Sparkz Restobar is not yet another hangout that will add excitement to the urban night life.

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36 Flr.

Club 36 is an exclusive gentlemen's club where indulgence is reserved for a chosen few. Strictly for the gentlemen, it's the perfect venue for male bonding and business talks.

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35 Flr.

Crown Regency Hotel & Towers adds a different kind of flavor to the diverse range of culinary fares in Cebu. Serving sumptuos international cuisine, Stratus Fine Dining will become every foodie's dream destination.

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19 Flr.

The Sky Lounge is the converging area for all Sky Experience Adventure guests, which also links to Tower 2 Club Ultima Business Center. At 19 stories high, one can sit back and bask in the overwhelming view of the city.


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18 Flr.

Located at the 18th floor will be the ultimate gaming arcade where gamers can blast, hit, punch, and jump to their hearts' content while outwitting and outlasting their virtual challengers.

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flesh_is_weak
December 2nd, 2008, 11:30 PM
@rusty: ngano español man? wala may significant spanish-speaking population ang Cebu...and those who do dont take public transportation anyway...

ofw_cebu
December 2nd, 2008, 11:41 PM
Hi Guys,

ask lang ko kung nagsugod na ba ang christmas bazaar sa MEPZ, am not sure kung yearly na siya nga event, but I remember naa to sauna..... thanks daan . . .

zidlakan
December 3rd, 2008, 12:08 AM
nice one...looks like a Japanese city to me...

@zidlakan: is there any chance for a BRT route that would serve the airport?

@arnold: dili lagi packed ang cathedral? by invitation only ang ceremony?

MEPZ is identified as the terminal station because of the 50,000 employees
there. that's about 15,000 per shift (8 hours). but it is just so easy to shift
a schedule to cover the airport. yes, i think one line should also go to the
airport. but for transport planning purposes, only the MEPZ is identified.

marxman
December 3rd, 2008, 12:36 AM
sir paul. ive read some issue about pablo john garcia making comments about srp. that FLI's deal with the CH on srp is illegal or something.

can you explain this sir? tnx!

here's the link:
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/pj-says-planned-sale-srp-lots-filinvest-%E2%80%98disadvantageous%E2%80%99-cebu-city

Sinjin P.
December 3rd, 2008, 01:25 AM
Hi Guys,

ask lang ko kung nagsugod na ba ang christmas bazaar sa MEPZ, am not sure kung yearly na siya nga event, but I remember naa to sauna..... thanks daan . . .

Yep nagsugod na. Tunga-tunga sa November pa. :)

kindofperfect82888
December 3rd, 2008, 01:33 AM
@zidlakan

sir paul.. katong threat ni pj garcia about sa FLI deal ba, i know makapagubot jud to sa deal.. kay as far as i know, gusto manglawgaw ang capitol sa srp to get back at mayor tom.. and in order for that to happen, dapat makaapil silag bid atong 10 hectare lot.. pero kaso lang, ang gipropose sa FLI kay apil na man ang 40 hectare na joint venture.. and according to pj garcia, illegal daw na.. mayor tom replied na they are just following the NEDA guidelines, pj garcia again rebutted na wala daw na nga guideline sa NEDA and if there was such, di daw na muapply sa mga LGU's.. IMO kani ila panlawgaw lang jud ni, kay di man sila kapanglawgaw kong di sila kaapil sa bidding, kay wa man silay right, nya if mapursue jud to ang proposal sa FLI na 50 hectares, way kwarta ang capitol para makaqualify, naay gibuhat ang CITY Hall against this move sir?kay sa akong tan-aw naay substance ang mga claim ni pj pero ang iyahang intent kay naay malice..what are the legal defenses or actions ang ginabuhat sa CITY hall sir? if you dont mind sir.. im really concerned about anang SRP.. thanks in advance, gud day!

SleMarKen
December 3rd, 2008, 01:39 AM
7 days to go...


Edge Coaster Grand Launching


Dec. 10, 2008 ... President Arroyo will be present

Dec. 11, 2008 - open to public

Entrance with skymeal (choice of sandwich & bottomless iced tea @ Php 380.00) and a ride (Sky Walk or Edge Coaster @ Php. 500.00)

First Top 8 Bidders will part of the record!


Mark Andrew Jorolan [markii Boi - SLEMARKEN] now on 9th list... Sayang!


Bidding will be close on Dec. 5, 2008


Mechanics


1.Bidders should be of legal age and in sound health and mind.

2. Bidder of Edge Coaster Ride must be at least 52" tall to ride the coaster.

3. Bidding starts as a first individual sets an amount.

4. The succeeding bidders will have to outbid the individual.

5. There will be 8 winners for the Edge Coaster Ride and 10 winners for the Skywalk Extreme.

6. Payment will be collected from the winners after the bidding have ended.

7. Winners will be notified on how to make their payments and will be invited on the opening date on December 10, 2008. They will take the ceremonial ride and walk as the First people to enjoy the Sky Experience Adventure! Travel expenses shall be shouldered by the bidders themselves to get to Crown Regency Hotel & Towers.

8. The Ceremonial ride and walk will be covered by media. Sky Experience Adventure reserves the right to use the photos and videos of the participants for advertisement and promotional purposes.


For more details... visit www.skyexperienceadventure.com

Walay Guiness?

ofw_cebu
December 3rd, 2008, 01:43 AM
Yep nagsugod na. Tunga-tunga sa November pa. :)

thanks sinj...

ivanc
December 3rd, 2008, 03:42 AM
Nalzaro: Capitol’s revenge
Bobby Nalzaro

I AGREE with Mayor-on-leave Tomas Osmeña that nobody, not even the Provincial Government, can dictate Cebu City Hall on what to do with the South Road Properties (SRP). The mayor issued this statement in reaction to Rep. Pablo John Garcia’s view that Filinvest’s offer to the City is illegal and disadvantageous to the government.

Gov. Gwen Garcia’s younger brother said the purchase of 10 hectares of SRP lots should be done through competitive bidding and not a Swiss challenge. And to be fair, the City should separate the purchase from the joint venture to develop 40 hectares of SRP lots.

Garcia, being a bar topnotcher, may have some basis to his claim. But as far as Tomas is concerned, he doesn't care whether the Filinvest offer is disadvantageous to the City or not so long as he can raise revenues from the sale. I am sure that when the offer was reviewed, City Hall lawyers studied its possible legal complications.

Filinvest is not also foolish to enter into a transaction with the City Government if it is illegal. The firm, a leader in land developing, is protecting the image and prestige of the company. It will not engage in illegal and questionable transactions.

I already wrote in a previous column that Capitol’s announcement that it would challenge the unsolicited proposal of Filinvest is questionable. I now think Capitol is not really serious in its offer. What will it do with the lot? And of all the SRP lots, why is it interested in those coveted by Filinvest?

Capitol’s motive is revenge. It has something to do with the city's decision to prohibit Capitol from developing its Ciudad project in Banilad.

By challenging Filinvest’s proposal, Capitol can already legally intervene even if it loses in the bidding. It acquires legal personality to go to the court and raise legal questions. If it won’t participate in the bidding, it has no basis to go to court questioning the deal.

I am sure the legal issues now raised by Rep. Garcia will be the same issues that will be raised by Capitol in court. And if there is a pending case, the implementation of the project will be delayed. Worse, Filinvest might withdraw because of some legal hassle.

And if the project is delayed or Filinvest withdraws, the City Government cannot raise revenues. Mapurnada ang income ug commission ni Tomas, kun duna man. Panglawgaw ra gyod nang ila. Ila lang palaguton si Tomas.

tonight
December 3rd, 2008, 04:36 AM
Ah yah, this is what I mean...

Since 2005, dili gyud ko absent aning launching sa PASKO sa SUGBO every 1st day of December sa Fuente Circle. Together with the countdown of the lighting of the giant Christmas Tree with the City officials and the Lhullier family and ofcourse the grand fireworks display @ exactly 7pm... Nindot man ang Christmas Tree inig gabii.

this year i miss the launching of PASKO sa SUGBO, niuli naman gud ko pero pagbalik nako kita ko sa Sinulog Festival :)

diehardbisdak
December 3rd, 2008, 07:04 AM
flickr pic by @rgvince4476
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flickr pic by @anjo's_point
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diehardbisdak
December 3rd, 2008, 07:09 AM
The Walk - flickr pic by @rey_inting

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3295/3078349174_f10cf71624.jpg

habagatcentral1
December 3rd, 2008, 07:11 AM
Ngutana ko...
How do we access Shell Island?

zidlakan
December 3rd, 2008, 08:12 AM
paita ani'ng daghan ta'g trabaho ... tiningub ang pag-tubag diri, he he he

Sir Paul, can these feeder routes be incorporated into the transit system as well? If we can not place the BRT on short routes, what if all these short routes would be merged into one single, yet very long BRT type route? Not necessarily a one with dedicated Busway per se but, one with stops that are integrated with the major BRT routes For example:

Start -> Interchange Station South Highway cor. F.Llamas Mambaling - F.Llamas Punta Princesa - F. Llamas Tisa - Katipunan Rd. Tisa - Salvador Labangon - R. Duterte Banawa - V.Rama Banawa -V. Rama Englis - Alcantara Urgello - Interchange StationLeon Kilat St. - Interchange Station Colon St. cor. Osmeña Blvd.- Cebu Heritage - Interchange Station Sikatuna cor. Imus - Gen. Echavez cor. Gen. Maxilom cor. Gorordo Ave.Interchange with feeder route - Interchange Station Gorordo Ave. cor. N. Escario St.- J.Y. Square - Salinas Drive - Interchange Station J. Luna Ave. cor. M.J. Cuenco - Interchange Station SM City <- End Loop

A loop that runs from -> Interchange StationCarbon Market - Magallanes - Climaco St.- Colon St. - C. Padilla - T. Abella - Taboan - V. Rama - B. Rodriguez - Gen. Maxilom cor. Gen. Echavez cor. Gorodo Ave. Interchange station with feeder route- Interchange StationGen. Maxilom cor. S. Osmeña Blvd. - Port Area - Plaza Independencia - City Hall - Interchange StationCarbon Market <- End loop

Other shorter routes that can be served by jeepneys would be (and hoping the we would implement the e-jeepneys similar to that of Makati's - only with bigger leg room):

From BRT Station in Pardo - Pardo Church - E. Sabellano Pardo - E. Sabellano Quiot - E. Sabellano Punta Princesa - Interchange Station with Feeder route F.Llamas cor. E. Sabellano cor. Tres de Abril Punta Princesa - Tres de Abril Punta Princesa - Left turn to Katipunan St. Labangon - Interchange Station with feeder route Katipunan St. cor. Salvador Labangon <- End Loop U-turn or roundabout

Some routes in the northern area I am not familiar with but would be similar to such scheme. And ako man gung gihunahuna anang naa pa gihapon nga mga jeep kay kung musulod pa gihapon na sila sa mga dalan nga naa na'y BRT, samot kahuot ang dalan. And another thing, if ang jeepneys would serve sa feeder routes, pasabot ana, mga galainlain lang gihapon ang tag-iya sa jeep, hence ang plete nato, madoble na: muplete pa ta sa jeep then muplete nasad ta sa BRT.

bottom line is - anything is possible ... but another bottom line is ... it all depends on financial viability. as in most projects, the brt will be governed by viability calculations, with the added condition that it should not be subsidized, as much as possible. that's why the long distance inter-city corridors are identified first ---> 2 things -- they have the required ridership (volume of passengers/hour) and generally these are already wide enough. other routes will be identified later, especially if they reach the required ridership. mas madali pag apil sa ubang routa later when people generally have accepted the system ... in fact, in australia, people are clamoring why their routes are not yet with BRT, after seeing the other BRT routes. viability and acceptability, those are important. as to your suggested routes, i guess those will be studied as well. implementation will depend on the studies.

^^ Imagine na lang nako ni:

"[DingDong Chimes] AS Fortuna Station, AS Fortuna Station. Kindly don't block on the doors for entering or leaving passengers. Palihog, ayaw i(block) ang agyanan para sa mga mosakay ug monaog nga mga pasahero. Daghang salamat! Next station, Wireless Mandaue. This bus/train is up to South Bus Terminal, ang mosunod nga estasyon ay Wireless Mandaue. Kining bus/tren kutob sa South Bus Terminal [DingDong Chimes]" :D

Just correct my Cebuano sentences there for discrepancies. :D

the only thing lacking is the choice on the voice - in japan, it's a female kingkoy high-pitch voice, similar to anime voices ... in manila, sometimes its male sometimes female - almost always unitelligible, mura'g wa'y katug kagabii, he he he .... what would like for cebu? - voice of teban? voice of marlon belleta (bitoy or boloy or senyang)? or you'd like a husky female voice instead? .... :)

This should be it:

[DingDong Chimes] AS Fortuna Station, AS Fortuna Station. Kindly don't block on the doors for entering or leaving passengers. Thank you. AS Fortuna Station, AS Fortuna Station. No bloquee por favor en las puertas para inscribir o dejar a pasajeros. Gracias. (Korean), (Japanese), (Chinese Mandarin)

Next station, Wireless Mandaue. This bus is up to South Bus Terminal. Estación siguiente, Wireless Mandaue. Este autobús está hasta South Bus Terminal. (Korean), (Japanese), (Chinese Mandarin)
[DingDong Chimes]"

di pa mahuman ug announce ni-abot na sa sunod station, ha ha ha

sir paul. ive read some issue about pablo john garcia making comments about srp. that FLI's deal with the CH on srp is illegal or something.

can you explain this sir? tnx!

here's the link:
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/pj-says-planned-sale-srp-lots-filinvest-%E2%80%98disadvantageous%E2%80%99-cebu-city
@zidlakan

sir paul.. katong threat ni pj garcia about sa FLI deal ba, i know makapagubot jud to sa deal.. kay as far as i know, gusto manglawgaw ang capitol sa srp to get back at mayor tom.. and in order for that to happen, dapat makaapil silag bid atong 10 hectare lot.. pero kaso lang, ang gipropose sa FLI kay apil na man ang 40 hectare na joint venture.. and according to pj garcia, illegal daw na.. mayor tom replied na they are just following the NEDA guidelines, pj garcia again rebutted na wala daw na nga guideline sa NEDA and if there was such, di daw na muapply sa mga LGU's.. IMO kani ila panlawgaw lang jud ni, kay di man sila kapanglawgaw kong di sila kaapil sa bidding, kay wa man silay right, nya if mapursue jud to ang proposal sa FLI na 50 hectares, way kwarta ang capitol para makaqualify, naay gibuhat ang CITY Hall against this move sir?kay sa akong tan-aw naay substance ang mga claim ni pj pero ang iyahang intent kay naay malice..what are the legal defenses or actions ang ginabuhat sa CITY hall sir? if you dont mind sir.. im really concerned about anang SRP.. thanks in advance, gud day!

the agreement is ... we do our work, we follow the process ... we religiously obey laws and regulations ... and face whatever legal obstacles we meet. our motive is, we are doing this for the people of cebu ... for their benefit in the future, with the thousands of jobs to be generated. our way is, we keep this as transparent as possible, every step of the way, including all agreements we had, which we announce to the whole world ... (in contrast, ask lang ko ... who of you or how many of you know the details of the agreement between the province and the private investors of ciudad? ... see what i mean?) ...

yes there are accusations, but you have to realize these are meant to confuse - public pronouncements, letter to the editors, etc., etc. and fro whom? from another local government unit ... from another district. how would you feel as a cebuano if a pampanga congressman suddenly criticize what cebu city is doing? there's no difference they're from outside cebu city and everybody knows what their motives are. even when people threw brickbats at the CICC, mayor osmena and cebu city didn't join the criticism ... why? because they are another separate LGU. when former governor garcia was criticized left and right about his sale of the province's share in CPVDC, and tommy was asked to comment, he answered, "pasagdi gud na ninyo - let him be the governor, let him do whatever he thinks is right for the province ..." the only thing i am really sad about the present scene is that, while outsiders are throwing all kinds of mud at the city government, ordinary cebuanos seem not to care. i really believe whatever enemies throw at the city government who is working for the good of its people, these they are throwing to you!

we will continue to work in accordance with law. they are baiting and drawing us out in a propaganda war in the newspapers ... the more noise, the better for them. but in the end, it's up to each of us to decide - are we (the city) doing this for the people? or are they doing these so that you and i and the cebuanos will have better lives and a better city? think carefully. examine carefully. and you decide.

Ngutana ko...
How do we access Shell Island?

frankly, i don't know. it's just outside our offices here. maybe by canoe? i'll try to find out. maybe nobody goes there - it's owned by the university of cebu/gus go ...

leylander
December 3rd, 2008, 08:22 AM
ive been to shell islands. pero sauna pa kaayo to. didto mi sa may ermita. naug sa luyo sa fish market, tugsaw sa tubig. naay mga bangka for hire nga muhatud nimo didto. kung low tide, layo pa kaayo kag lakawon kay rocky man kaayo, dili ka dritso ang boats. pag balik namo sa boat, basa kaayo mi. taga hawak ang tubig dili gihapon kaduol ang boats.

AmbutLang
December 3rd, 2008, 08:29 AM
Adto sa UC office sa Osmena Blvd naa ang office ni Candice Go. The only daughther(child) ni Go best friend sa akong niece.

marxman
December 3rd, 2008, 09:12 AM
well on my part, i have a friend who is the secretary of Cong. Pablo Garcia (father) i asked her to make Pabling stop his son making those comments. hehe! as if naay effect! hehe!

medyo sad lng coz we cebuanos are supposed to be different from the rest of the philippines. we're not like the manilenos na magcge rag pangitag gubot ang mag.cge rag away! nya karon sa cebu kay nag.away nmn hinuon ang province ug city. ngil.ad kaau palandungon!

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
December 3rd, 2008, 09:22 AM
^^

right! di nalang unta na siya magapil2x sa city wui kay the city doesn't elect him or anybody in the province to know whats good and bad for the city. hay naku! :ohno::)

diehardbisdak
December 3rd, 2008, 09:26 AM
^^ kung na-a lang ko'y superpower bai, dugay na nako gihipos ang duha ka kwanggol...pakauwaw lang na sila! :lol:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
December 3rd, 2008, 09:28 AM
^^ kung na-a lang ko'y superpower bai, dugay na nako gihipos ang duha ka kwanggol...pakauwaw lang na sila! :lol:

hahahaha...kwanggol gyud! kwanggol palautot! :lol::lol:

rustyboi
December 3rd, 2008, 09:49 AM
very nice! it's really good to have the Cebu City urban planner himself! i've learned a lot from this hardworking guy nga unfortunately ang hardwork dili makita sa mga mata sa ordinaryong cebuanos, like me! hehehe. but i have always appreciated all the efforts being done by our gov't officials maski sauna pa. and for that, i'm grateful nga si Sir paul mu take ug time explain and giving us exciting updates/development. i hope ma regular gihapon imong bisita diri sa SSC! :rock:

just a footnote on the BRT ...

please understand that the BRT is a public mass transportation system. it has its inherent advantages but it has limitations, too.

thus, i prefer not to talk about "phasing out" or "replacing" jeepneys with BRT. i believe the jeepneys are there to stay even after 20 years from now. each has its own roles in cebu's development.

firstly, please note that the BRT is a "corridor" transport system. it means it's a mass transportation which is placed in "transport corridors" or routes/links with very high ridership. it can't be placed in areas with limited ridership coz then, it loses its viability. please remember that one of the main advantages of the BRT is that it is designed NOT to be subsidized, as against the LTR, MRT, subway, or metros, which are HEAVILY subsidized and bleeds the coffers of government - money which would have otherwise been spent for other social and development projects. for example, the fare of theMRT is manila runs from P11 to P15. but actually, the real cost of transporting a passenger may run up to P50 - P60! who pays for the difference? you and me! its subsidized, so every time a manila resident rides on the LRT or MRT, all the filipinos, including us from visayas and mindanao, pays for his/her fare!

forget that, we can't do anything about that now. but as we plan for the cebu BRT, we propose that it be self-liquidating ... that it be NOT subsidized. the BRT when it comes will be in corridors. for example, i can't imagine having a BRT in urgello-private route ... can you? no, jeepneys will still be around. they'd be supporting the feeder routes. when time comes, the discipline which comes along with the BRT will transcend to them (i hope .. i keep my fingers crossed). once, we have an efficient public transport in place, the jeepneys hopefully will follow suit in terms of road discipline, especially in the loading and unloading of passengers.

what does this "transport corridor" mean in real terms?

it means that the implementation of the BRT will be limited to the main corridors will it will be viable, initially. for example, if all things run smoothly, i am foreseeing the following BRT routes in the next 5 years ...

http://villarete.com/paul/zidlakan/images/BRTprobableroutes.jpg

let me explain a bit. lets call the lines: BRT1 (blue), BRT2 (yellow), BRT3 (pink) and BRT4 (green).

BRT1 and BRT2 maybe the proposed corridor between talisay and MEPZ. BRT2 takes the traditional route - talisay - south road - natalio bacalso -imus - north road - second bridge - MEPZ. BRT1 is from talisay but passes through south coastal road - SRP - plaza independencia - macarthur blvd. - north recla - mandaue recla - old bridge - MEPZ.

it is important for you to understand that in all probability, having both routes will NOT be POSSIBLE nor FEASIBLE. both are catering to almost the same ridership, and if we divide that between them, the feasibility becomes less. so i am predicting it might be BRT1 or BRT2 or a combination of both, but not both. for example, it might be BRT2 coming from talisay and turn right to SM and become BRT1 on the way to MEPZ. ... or the other way around. we have no way of knowing at this time until after the transport study is completed. but i'm sure there will be at least one talisay to MEPZ route in the next 5 years. maybe it will become 2 in 10-15 years.

BRT3 is essential! its the internal transport system of the SRP and now that development is starting, it is of paramount importance that its internal transport system be put in place. no jeepneys of course ... no way! ... and if plans pushes through, NO CARS, too! everything inside will be by BRT, bicycles, or walking ... with sufficient sidewalks and bicycle lanes. if you go there by BRT, you have to transfer to the internal BRT in a transfer (we are still identifying the location). same way as those who will come by car - you have to park in the transfer station and transfer to the internal BRT. whether we have the political will to impose a carless SRP remains to be seen ... but it seems mayor osmena is fairly determined to do it that way ... well, maybe, (and i am dreaming) electric cars ... but NO
CAR coming from the outside, he he he.

BRT4 is the talamban corridor. i am not particularly sure where it will pass upon reaching archbishop ave. but i drew up an escario - capitol - osmena blvd. route reaching city hall and connecting either to BRT1 or BRT2 (transfer station, too). it can pass through gorordo - right to maxilum -then left to osmena, too, or it can simply reach ayala then turn left to SM and connect to BRT1 or BRT2. i don't know. that's why we need the study ... to determin where it will go.

the way i see it, for as long as there are no hitches. BRT1 OR BRT2, BRT3, and BRT4 will be online within the next 5 years. that is, assuming, talisay, mandaue, and lapu-lapu agrees and supports the project.

otherwise, my explanation, and my drawing above ... will be up to cebu city boundaries only, he he he ... bulacao up to SM/mabolo.


note: maybe in the next 10-15 years, the following may be feasible: for BRT1 and BRT2, assuming both are online, a loop in talisay connecting both; talamban route can extend up to canduman and loop towards mandaue linking to BRT1 and/or BRT2; talamban-CBD route can branch to natalio bacalso and link to SRP; another loop maybe establish passing through capitol, banawa, katipunan or tres de abril then n. bacalso.

the future routes will be more difficult because of the narrow streets.

well, who knows, maybe the BRT will make a HIT and people will love it that it will be easier to expands roads in the future ...


BRT3 is essential! its the internal transport system of the SRP and now that development is starting, it is of paramount importance that its internal transport system be put in place. no jeepneys of course ... no way! ... and if plans pushes through, NO CARS, too! everything inside will be by BRT, bicycles, or walking ... with sufficient sidewalks and bicycle lanes. if you go there by BRT, you have to transfer to the internal BRT in a transfer (we are still identifying the location). same way as those who will come by car - you have to park in the transfer station and transfer to the internal BRT. whether we have the political will to impose a carless SRP remains to be seen ... but it seems mayor osmena is fairly determined to do it that way ... well, maybe, (and i am dreaming) electric cars ... but NO
CAR coming from the outside, he he he.

^^oh man, if i were to buy and live in a condominium in SRP, i would not want to have my car parked in a BRT Transfer Station and take a bus everytime i go home. i'm afraid those company bigwigs (CEO, Presidents etc.) within SRP are not willing to take the BRT rather than riding with their limo either. :dunno:

why not implement a "Car Pass" thing for residents and employees within SRP? where one has to file an application for a special car pass/sticker. if we can't make SRP totally car-less, at least those cars coming in are regulated. in that way, mura na ug giant college campus ang SRP. hehe

what about taxi cabs? i personally prefer not to allow them to enter SRP. :cool:

marxman
December 3rd, 2008, 09:55 AM
hahay! abi kog manila ug mindanao ray gubot! asta pd diay cebu! mga pisti!

RonnieR
December 3rd, 2008, 09:56 AM
The Walk - flickr pic by @rey_inting

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3295/3078349174_f10cf71624.jpg

Where is this? Very nice..

habagatcentral1
December 3rd, 2008, 09:58 AM
^^ The Walk, Asiatown IT Park, Lahug-Apas...:D

RonnieR
December 3rd, 2008, 09:59 AM
just a footnote on the BRT ...

please understand that the BRT is a public mass transportation system. it has its inherent advantages but it has limitations, too.

thus, i prefer not to talk about "phasing out" or "replacing" jeepneys with BRT. i believe the jeepneys are there to stay even after 20 years from now. each has its own roles in cebu's development.

firstly, please note that the BRT is a "corridor" transport system. it means it's a mass transportation which is placed in "transport corridors" or routes/links with very high ridership. it can't be placed in areas with limited ridership coz then, it loses its viability. please remember that one of the main advantages of the BRT is that it is designed NOT to be subsidized, as against the LTR, MRT, subway, or metros, which are HEAVILY subsidized and bleeds the coffers of government - money which would have otherwise been spent for other social and development projects. for example, the fare of theMRT is manila runs from P11 to P15. but actually, the real cost of transporting a passenger may run up to P50 - P60! who pays for the difference? you and me! its subsidized, so every time a manila resident rides on the LRT or MRT, all the filipinos, including us from visayas and mindanao, pays for his/her fare!

forget that, we can't do anything about that now. but as we plan for the cebu BRT, we propose that it be self-liquidating ... that it be NOT subsidized. the BRT when it comes will be in corridors. for example, i can't imagine having a BRT in urgello-private route ... can you? no, jeepneys will still be around. they'd be supporting the feeder routes. when time comes, the discipline which comes along with the BRT will transcend to them (i hope .. i keep my fingers crossed). once, we have an efficient public transport in place, the jeepneys hopefully will follow suit in terms of road discipline, especially in the loading and unloading of passengers.

what does this "transport corridor" mean in real terms?

it means that the implementation of the BRT will be limited to the main corridors will it will be viable, initially. for example, if all things run smoothly, i am foreseeing the following BRT routes in the next 5 years ...

http://villarete.com/paul/zidlakan/images/BRTprobableroutes.jpg

let me explain a bit. lets call the lines: BRT1 (blue), BRT2 (yellow), BRT3 (pink) and BRT4 (green).

BRT1 and BRT2 maybe the proposed corridor between talisay and MEPZ. BRT2 takes the traditional route - talisay - south road - natalio bacalso -imus - north road - second bridge - MEPZ. BRT1 is from talisay but passes through south coastal road - SRP - plaza independencia - macarthur blvd. - north recla - mandaue recla - old bridge - MEPZ.

it is important for you to understand that in all probability, having both routes will NOT be POSSIBLE nor FEASIBLE. both are catering to almost the same ridership, and if we divide that between them, the feasibility becomes less. so i am predicting it might be BRT1 or BRT2 or a combination of both, but not both. for example, it might be BRT2 coming from talisay and turn right to SM and become BRT1 on the way to MEPZ. ... or the other way around. we have no way of knowing at this time until after the transport study is completed. but i'm sure there will be at least one talisay to MEPZ route in the next 5 years. maybe it will become 2 in 10-15 years.

BRT3 is essential! its the internal transport system of the SRP and now that development is starting, it is of paramount importance that its internal transport system be put in place. no jeepneys of course ... no way! ... and if plans pushes through, NO CARS, too! everything inside will be by BRT, bicycles, or walking ... with sufficient sidewalks and bicycle lanes. if you go there by BRT, you have to transfer to the internal BRT in a transfer (we are still identifying the location). same way as those who will come by car - you have to park in the transfer station and transfer to the internal BRT. whether we have the political will to impose a carless SRP remains to be seen ... but it seems mayor osmena is fairly determined to do it that way ... well, maybe, (and i am dreaming) electric cars ... but NO
CAR coming from the outside, he he he.

BRT4 is the talamban corridor. i am not particularly sure where it will pass upon reaching archbishop ave. but i drew up an escario - capitol - osmena blvd. route reaching city hall and connecting either to BRT1 or BRT2 (transfer station, too). it can pass through gorordo - right to maxilum -then left to osmena, too, or it can simply reach ayala then turn left to SM and connect to BRT1 or BRT2. i don't know. that's why we need the study ... to determin where it will go.

the way i see it, for as long as there are no hitches. BRT1 OR BRT2, BRT3, and BRT4 will be online within the next 5 years. that is, assuming, talisay, mandaue, and lapu-lapu agrees and supports the project.

otherwise, my explanation, and my drawing above ... will be up to cebu city boundaries only, he he he ... bulacao up to SM/mabolo.


note: maybe in the next 10-15 years, the following may be feasible: for BRT1 and BRT2, assuming both are online, a loop in talisay connecting both; talamban route can extend up to canduman and loop towards mandaue linking to BRT1 and/or BRT2; talamban-CBD route can branch to natalio bacalso and link to SRP; another loop maybe establish passing through capitol, banawa, katipunan or tres de abril then n. bacalso.

the future routes will be more difficult because of the narrow streets.

well, who knows, maybe the BRT will make a HIT and people will love it that it will be easier to expands roads in the future ...


This is a positive note to BRT. A very wise move by Cebu to implement this.
I wish it sooner....go Cebu! Thanks for explaining a comprehensive transport plan
for this important city.

RonnieR
December 3rd, 2008, 10:00 AM
^^ The Walk, Asiatown IT Park, Lahug-Apas...:D


Thanks :)

zidlakan
December 3rd, 2008, 10:17 AM
very nice! it's really good to have the Cebu City urban planner himself! i've learned a lot from this hardworking guy nga unfortunately ang hardwork dili makita sa mga mata sa ordinaryong cebuanos, like me! hehehe. but i have always appreciated all the efforts being done by our gov't officials maski sauna pa. and for that, i'm grateful nga si Sir paul mu take ug time explain and giving us exciting updates/development. i hope ma regular gihapon imong bisita diri sa SSC! :rock:

thanks. only one thing i could say - my family taught me the value of hard work. so thanks to my parents, too.

hahayzzzz, kung pwede pa lang, i'll spend more time here as much as i can. pero busy jud. mao na usahay ang akong tubag, wholesale, he he he, one shot deal, kuridas tanan, he he he

^^oh man, if i were to buy and live in a condominium in SRP, i would not want to have my car parked in a BRT Transfer Station and take a bus everytime i go home. i'm afraid those company bigwigs (CEO, Presidents etc.) within SRP are not willing to take the BRT rather than riding with their limo either. :dunno:

why not implement a "Car Pass" thing for residents and employees within SRP? where one has to file an application for a special car pass/sticker. if we can't make SRP totally car-less, at least those cars coming in are regulated. in that way, mura na ug giant college campus ang SRP. hehe

what about taxi cabs? i personally prefer not to allow them to enter SRP. :cool:

let me qualify ... sorry ... excited ra kaayo ko. the agreed policy direction is ... as much as possible ... as carless as possible. you're example would certainly be an exception as there will be residential condominiums there ...

kindofperfect82888
December 3rd, 2008, 11:02 AM
@sir paul

tungod sa imong tubag sir.. mao idol jud ta mo ni mayor tom og si sir bimbo, things are now clearer now.. propaganda ra na,weeeee! :banana: that is what separates BOPK from the rest.. you are leaders, visionaries.. not useless lawyers, or perhaps an irritating board top notcher... salamat sir paul

USWAG SUGBU!!

vicven2
December 3rd, 2008, 11:39 AM
what about taxi cabs? i personally prefer not to allow them to enter SRP. :cool:

Personally, I don't see why we should discriminate against TaxiCabs vs private cars. Why do some government offices not allow Taxi Cabs, even when occupied from entering the premises, when private cars are allowed. And why are private vehicles allowed to make turns on some intersections, and Taxis are not?

I don't really see the premise, and it looks like discrimination against non car owners. All cars, private or public, except for mass transport, should be considered equal, and where one is not allowed, all should not be allowed. They all have the same impact to traffic, after all.

Again, IMHO. and I would love to hear the counter arguments.

Cheers!

AmbutLang
December 3rd, 2008, 12:13 PM
Governor prefers personal meetings to discuss fate of lot occupants

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/governor-prefers-personal-meetings-discuss-fate-lot-occupants

later part...

The former senator also said he is no longer running for any elective post in 2010. But asked by reporters if he has anybody in mind who might run against Garcia, he said the right candidate would be Minnie Osmeña, sister of Tomas.

“Babaye pareho. Pareho sad ilang nawong kinortehan sa doctor,” he said, laughing, when asked why he would pick his cousin. (RHM/LCR/GMD)

:nuts: :)

marxman
December 3rd, 2008, 01:10 PM
in my opinion i think, private car owners are more disciplined than those taxi drivers. its like this. taxi drivers need to compete for passengers with other taxi coz thats their livelihood. they have to compete hard to bring money to the table to the point of not following traffic rules.

whereas private car owners tend to be more obedient on the traffic rules coz of the opposite reason with taxi cab drivers.

habagatcentral1
December 3rd, 2008, 01:20 PM
@Sir Paul....is the odd-even or any volume reduction traffic scheme such as the ones implemented in Metro Manila possible for Metro Cebu as well?

AmbutLang
December 3rd, 2008, 01:28 PM
Bernie belated happy birthday diay.

Odd - even plates will barely work since some people will just buy two cars one odd and one even plates. :)

federalist
December 3rd, 2008, 02:14 PM
hopefully not. i dont like the odd-even scheme.

diehardbisdak
December 3rd, 2008, 03:38 PM
flickr pic by @harvz111

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3004/3078840605_eb47eee0aa.jpg

diehardbisdak
December 3rd, 2008, 03:40 PM
flickr pic by @dacs_quack


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3016/3079716488_d0c06dd637.jpg?v=0



http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3245/3079716482_169a1a2f92.jpg?v=0

Sinjin P.
December 3rd, 2008, 03:53 PM
flickr pic by @harvz111

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3004/3078840605_eb47eee0aa.jpg

Club Ultima really looks so old and dilapidated.

Sa Bisaya pa, murag gitaya

diehardbisdak
December 3rd, 2008, 03:58 PM
^^ yeah...kung sa ice cream pa, nalanay na..hahhaha!


...sayang kaayo ang EMSU Hotel oy! ...pero bilib ko sa tenant, buhi pa gihapon....the 1st MCDONALD'S in Cebu....hehehe! ...i can't believe nga up to now, wala pa gihapon na-solve ang kaso...heheheh!

SleMarKen
December 3rd, 2008, 04:41 PM
^^ maglaway man ta ana ice cream bai..





kani sila makalaway pud. :D

Miss Cebu 2009


http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/6905/img7784copyxh2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

dongRoy
December 3rd, 2008, 05:22 PM
Response to @bernie's question and succeeding comments:

Kani ako-a opinion lang. Wala ko'y analytical basis ani. Speaking as a biased Cebuano lang so medyo excuse my subjective comments below.

I don't think setting up stringent ruling and ordinances would really create much impact in Cebu.

Although Cebuanos do follow rules, sometimes or most of the time we tend to disobey rules which we think would not really make any sense. Kung makakita gani mi'g rule nga mura'g makit-an ra'g paagi nga malutsan, maypa dili nalang i-follow; especially rules that are absolutely ridiculous.

What usually works in Cebu are systems or alternatives. To govern cebuanos, you have to be able to give us a way out. Let us choose to do the policy, not impose it on us. In that way, you'd have people doing things in such an order because we are happy doing it, we see, accept and agree to its purpose and its benefits and not because it was commanded to us.

With the traffic situation in Metro Cebu, you'd have to be able to give the people an alternative nga puwede nilang pili-on for themselves. You'd have to be able to present them with choices- but, present the choice you'd want them to make to be a choice that would benefit them over the rest of the other choices. (Does that statement make any sense at all? hehehe)

Personally, mao nang manguso'g dyud ko'g supporta anang BRT unya mangusog sad dyud ko'g yawyaw diri nga pangitaan dyud na'g paagi nga ang mga tao kung papili-on sila between musakay sa bus or magdala ug sakyanan, mas pili-on nilang musakay sa bus dili tungod kay guinadili sa gobyerno ang pagdala ug sakyanan, kon dili, tungod kay ang car owner mismo nakaamgo nga mas makabenepisyo diay para niya nga magBus nalang.

Lahi raman gud kung pananglitan, duna na tuoy BRT unya makaamgo ang tao nga masarang-arang pa tong jeep sa una or masarangarang pang magdala nalang ug kaugalingong sakyanan. Unya magbuhat dayon ug ordinansa nga: GUINADILI ANG PAGSULOD SA SAKYANAN DIRING DAPITA, or magbuhat ug ruling to suspend some jeepney routes then wala'y better alternative; masayang lang ang gipanghago-an unya murule napud ta to lift those previous ruling kay nireklamo ang mga constituents.

Anyway, bottom line aning akong isturya, systema ang muobra para sa mga sugboanon, dili sugo. Culturally speaking pud, mao bitaw nang muingon dyud mi ug "Lugar lang 'nya" keyword is "nya" or "unya", "Lugar lang later". Psychologically, you are giving the driver an option to choose when to "lugar" the vehicle. Cebuanos respond better to parayeg or in this whole analogy, we respond better if we are presented with a choice, not orders or sugo.

I hope dili libog akong gipangsturya kay kung akong basahon, maglibog ko usahay pero I can't seem to find other ways to present my point. Hehehehe!

lex_99
December 3rd, 2008, 05:47 PM
SM City Northwing:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a281/lex_99/Dec_2008_vacation/DSC03707.jpg?t=1228322655

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a281/lex_99/Dec_2008_vacation/DSC03708.jpg?t=1228322643

Constructions along SRP
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a281/lex_99/Dec_2008_vacation/DSC03714.jpg?t=1228322632

lex_99
December 3rd, 2008, 06:01 PM
Cebu City Streetscape :)

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a281/lex_99/Dec_2008_vacation/DSC03706.jpg?t=1228322931

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a281/lex_99/Dec_2008_vacation/DSC03702.jpg?t=1228322950

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a281/lex_99/Dec_2008_vacation/DSC03718.jpg?t=1228323401

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a281/lex_99/Dec_2008_vacation/DSC03668.jpg?t=1228323444

dongRoy
December 3rd, 2008, 06:03 PM
Wala bay paagi nga ang mga Sugboanon mismo ang mubotar or muvoice out kung unsa ang ilang gustong mahitabo sa SRP? Abi ba nako'g City of Cebu ang tag-iya as SRP, apil unta ming mga taga City of Cebu nga muexpress sad sa among gustong mahitabo sa SRP!

Kinsa man na si Sepulveda? Sugboanon na siya? Kay siya man guy saba kaayo about anang SRP. Obvious naman kaayo intawn nga ang kanang SRP dako kaayo nang asset sa Cebu. Minghatag na ug raw nga opportunity for growth, ang long term benefits ana dako kaayo! Di man siguro ka kinahanglan college graduate aron ka makakita ana. Ngano dyud kahang guboton paman dyud na nila? Wa ba diay na sila kita nga the moment musulod na nang FilInvest diha, magsunodsunod na ang mga investors diha dapita! More investors mean more jobs! I dare the capitol, kung duna sila'y mapakita nga paagi nga malift ang economic situation sa Cebu ug sa Cebu City, hala! gubota ang SRP! Questiona tanan!

Unless the capitol is able to present ways that would define a better future for Cebu, then I don't think they are of any right position to question whatsoever, any deals the City is undertaking in the development of the South Road Properties. Besides, transparent man ang Cebu City sa ilang mga undertakings. Bisan pa'g ibutang tang duna'y mga nakacommission ana, ayaw baya mo magpakalimpyo oi. Maayo nalang nang mga mucommission gikan sa income sa businesses kaysa anang mangawat gikan sa buwis sa mga tao.

Yes, you did a good job with the Province. Why don't you focus all your energies and resources in continuing that good job you've already done. Capitol was already at the right track. Don't loose the public's trust through another political grand standing.

dongRoy
December 3rd, 2008, 06:05 PM
Wala bay paagi nga ang mga Sugboanon mismo ang mubotar or muvoice out kung unsa ang ilang gustong mahitabo sa SRP? Abi ba nako'g City of Cebu ang tag-iya as SRP, apil unta ming mga taga City of Cebu nga muexpress sad sa among gustong mahitabo sa SRP!

Kinsa man na si Sepulveda? Sugboanon na siya? Kay siya man guy saba kaayo about anang SRP. Obvious naman kaayo intawn nga ang kanang SRP dako kaayo nang asset sa Cebu. Minghatag na ug raw nga opportunity for growth, ang long term benefits ana dako kaayo! Di man siguro ka kinahanglan college graduate aron ka makakita ana. Ngano dyud kahang guboton paman dyud na nila? Wa ba diay na sila kita nga the moment musulod na nang FilInvest diha, magsunodsunod na ang mga investors diha dapita! More investors mean more jobs! I dare the capitol, kung duna sila'y mapakita nga paagi nga malift ang economic situation sa Cebu ug sa Cebu City, hala! gubota ang SRP! Questiona tanan!

Unless the capitol is able to present ways that would define a better future for Cebu, then I don't think they are of any right position to question whatsoever, any deals the City is undertaking in the development of the South Road Properties. Besides, transparent man ang Cebu City sa ilang mga undertakings. Bisan pa'g ibutang tang duna'y mga nakacommission ana, ayaw baya mo magpakalimpyo oi. Maayo nalang nang mga mucommission gikan sa income sa businesses kaysa anang mangawat gikan sa buwis sa mga tao.

Yes, you did a good job with the Province. Why don't you focus all your energies and resources in continuing that good job you've already done. Capitol was already at the right track. Don't loose the public's trust through another political grand standing.

lex_99
December 3rd, 2008, 06:07 PM
Terraces at Ayala Center Cebu

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a281/lex_99/Dec_2008_vacation/DSC03678.jpg?t=1228323897

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a281/lex_99/Dec_2008_vacation/DSC03681.jpg?t=1228323914

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a281/lex_99/Dec_2008_vacation/DSC03673.jpg?t=1228323882

SleMarKen
December 3rd, 2008, 06:12 PM
Constructions along SRP
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a281/lex_99/Dec_2008_vacation/DSC03714.jpg?t=1228322632

North Reclamation ni bai.

lex_99
December 3rd, 2008, 06:28 PM
Sorry wrong caption hehe... Nice to see Cebu still enjoying hyper growth. :)

concern
December 3rd, 2008, 06:38 PM
^^ nice shots bai! keep posting..

mwg12a
December 3rd, 2008, 09:57 PM
Terraces at Ayala Center Cebu

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a281/lex_99/Dec_2008_vacation/DSC03678.jpg?t=1228323897

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a281/lex_99/Dec_2008_vacation/DSC03681.jpg?t=1228323914

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a281/lex_99/Dec_2008_vacation/DSC03673.jpg?t=1228323882

I love these pics, it looks very cosmopolitan. Ultramodern aesthetics...

Sinjin P.
December 4th, 2008, 01:36 AM
^^ maglaway man ta ana ice cream bai..





kani sila makalaway pud. :D

Miss Cebu 2009


http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/6905/img7784copyxh2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Kaning 7th girl from left, si Sheda man na no? Katong niapil sa Star Circle Quest sauna ba.

Unya kanang girl sa rightmost, murag si Carmen Soo (Kahit Isang Saglit)

Sinjin P.
December 4th, 2008, 01:38 AM
Thanks for visiting Cebu @lex. Hope you enjoyed your visit. Nice photos by the way. :)

Re: SM's Christmas decors: Dili kaayo siya nindot compared to last year pero I think wala'y mabuhat ang SM Cebu management kay if I'm not mistaken, system-wide ang ilang Christmas decors (meaning tanan SM malls parihag decors). Pero okay ra gihapon. :)

vicven2
December 4th, 2008, 03:59 AM
in my opinion i think, private car owners are more disciplined than those taxi drivers. its like this. taxi drivers need to compete for passengers with other taxi coz thats their livelihood. they have to compete hard to bring money to the table to the point of not following traffic rules.

whereas private car owners tend to be more obedient on the traffic rules coz of the opposite reason with taxi cab drivers.

I see your point, but if we hold them to the same standards, then that shouldn't be a problem. The problem with our system, IMO, is that we let emotions, not logic, rule the day.
If we have the same rules for all, it shouldn't be a problem and discriminating is also punishing those taxi drivers who are obeying the rules. Punish those who break the rules, not those who we think are likely to. Let's not allow "Trabaho Lang" to be an excuse.

A couple of examples are Cebu City Health, which implements a No Entry policy for taxis, causing taxis to stop infront of their gate, and causing a blockage in Maxilom Ave. Trafficwise, there is absolutely no reason for not allowing taxis, specifically occupied ones for not allowing them inside. The second is the juntion between M velez and Escario in the corner of capitol where the taxis are not allowed to make a right to escario. That is inane as it forces the taxis to take a long route via Osmena Blvd, which is alread congested, or make an u turn on the side road.

And as far as I see it, not all taxi drivers are irrespective of the law, also, not all private car drivers are respective of them.

Cheers.

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
December 4th, 2008, 04:56 AM
Kaning 7th girl from left, si Sheda man na no? Katong niapil sa Star Circle Quest sauna ba.

Unya kanang girl sa rightmost, murag si Carmen Soo (Kahit Isang Saglit)

mao nay makadaog bai! :lol::lol:

lex_99
December 4th, 2008, 07:31 AM
Thanks for visiting Cebu @lex. Hope you enjoyed your visit. Nice photos by the way. :)

Re: SM's Christmas decors: Dili kaayo siya nindot compared to last year pero I think wala'y mabuhat ang SM Cebu management kay if I'm not mistaken, system-wide ang ilang Christmas decors (meaning tanan SM malls parihag decors). Pero okay ra gihapon. :)


Sure. I love Cebu! I might be there again early next year! :)

habagatcentral1
December 4th, 2008, 07:56 AM
^^ Sinulog....:D Adto ta nya...:D

under_superior
December 4th, 2008, 11:02 AM
hello. cebu..! :D

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
December 4th, 2008, 11:34 AM
^^

hello sad! :lol::laugh::okay:

SleMarKen
December 4th, 2008, 02:56 PM
@ 2:37
http://www.pinoychannel.tv/watch/v-95723