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mAiNsTrEaMhunter

January 29th, 2009, 09:20 AM

diehardbisdak

January 29th, 2009, 09:32 AM

^^ nganong ma-block man nga maglupad man ang eroplano higher than the skyscrapers around the SRP area..dili man below sa height sa skyscrapers...hehehhe!

diehardbisdak

January 29th, 2009, 09:37 AM

Cebu...yesteryear!

...the lot which Magellan Hotel used to stand is now own by Legenda Group of Kabayan Hotels
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3260/3235147141_2cf5416c12.jpg?v=0
flickr pic by @Treb0115

diehardbisdak

January 29th, 2009, 09:43 AM

Sinulog '09 Fluvial Procession - flickr pic by @storm-crypt

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3113/3233363671_db59641ba9_o.jpg

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

January 29th, 2009, 09:44 AM

^^ nganong ma-block man nga maglupad man ang eroplano higher than the skyscrapers around the SRP area..dili man below sa height sa skyscrapers...hehehhe!

well, IMO, gamay biya ang height sa control tower bai @diehard... well that's their theory. possible man gyud. if layo pa d.i ang plane and approaching then paubos biya gyud na ang signal nila to the control tower so basin d.i ma.block gyud sa mga skyscrapers....:)

SuperGrass78

January 29th, 2009, 10:35 AM

And again, I'm really hoping to see signature cebu skyscrapers here. 150 m-tall, beautifully-designed, green-architecture skyscrapers that will hopefully complement our naturally lovely mountain-and-sea landscape and nothing less. Hehe.

Taller ones can be built in the uptown areas like CBP and AITP aron they wouldn't block the view.

tumpak! wa nay lain pa...mao nay the best plan!...bahala og dili kaayo tag-as, basta tropical and resort kaayo ang feeling sa SRP with lots of tall palm tress and greeeens...i hope they will leave that portion of the kawit island ba na? as a beach...

rustyboi

January 29th, 2009, 10:39 AM

tumpak! wa nay lain pa...mao nay the best plan!...bahala og dili kaayo tag-as, basta tropical and resort kaayo ang feeling sa SRP with lots of tall palm tress and greeeens...i hope they will leave that portion of the kawit island ba na? as a beach...

http://www.belchfire.net/screenshots/6395-1186330286-waikiki_at_dusk,_hawaii_preview.jpg
^^How bout this? :nuts: Waikiki Beach, Hawaii

http://cache.virtualtourist.com/818618-Waikiki_from_Diamond_Head-Waikiki.jpg
^^it looks like the average height of those buildings in Waikiki is 20 storeys. i could be wrong. :cool:

SuperGrass78

January 29th, 2009, 10:43 AM

^^^^

waaaaaaaaaa gusto ko maingon ana ang SRP....super...miski lang gud gamay lang nga portion naay beach katong sa kawit island lang, nga pwede makalakwan lakwan ba nya maka sun bathing ba kintahay ang mga turista(wa lang tay labot basin musamot tag kalagom)..hehehe! miski dili lang white sand miski ang existing lang nga sand diha, ang importante naay nindot nga open space and natural nga coast dili tanan seawall....i hope and i pray sa santo nino nga ma enlighten ang huna huna sa developers nya mahuna hunaan na nila...possible man gud kay naa naman gyud nang portion of beach diha...hehehe! :cheers:

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January 29th, 2009, 10:53 AM

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Jarenz

January 29th, 2009, 10:53 AM

OH69

January 29th, 2009, 11:05 AM

Tourism ‘to save’ displaced workers

LABORERS who lost their jobs as a result of the economic crisis may consider looking for opportunities in the tourism industry, a group of travel agencies said.

National Association of Independent Travel Agencies-Philippines Inc. (Naitas) chairman Robert Lim Joseph said tourism in the country will remain strong and unaffected by the crisis, unlike furniture and semi-conductor firms.

Because of this, he said that players in the tourism industry could absorb displaced workers.

Department of Labor and Employment (Dole) 7 Director Elias Cayanong agreed, adding that the agency has even allocated funds to train dismissed workers onr the skills needed in the tourism industry.

Joseph and Cayanong were among the guests during Tuesday’s 888 News Forum.

Also during the forum, Cayanong said that during a recent stakeholders’ meeting, three hotel managers attended and promised to ask to tourism stakeholders if they can accommodate some of these displaced workers whose skills are acceptable to the industry.

“Please bear with us. We’re on top of the situation and just help us…accommodate if you can, advise if you can, but most of all let’s not rock the boat,” Cayanong said.

Sergio Lim, owner of Mango Park Hotel, said that right now, the tourism industry may just be the “savior” of these workers.
“A typical example would be that you would see all around Cebu. How many hotels are coming up? It seems that we are going back to 1997 when there was a tourism boom,” Lim said.

Lim added that one of the reasons that tourist arrivals in the Philippines are high is because Department of Tourism (DOT) Secretary Joseph “Ace” Durano travels abroad and brings tourists into the country.

“His (Durano) objective paid off. We were expecting three million travelers last year, but it came out to be 3.4 million tourists. So with that kind of travelers coming in and with the new markets like Russia and China, which are active right now, there are again a lot of hotel rooms that need to be done and you could just see the development,” Lim said.

Lim said one developer will construct a hotel with 1,000 rooms and a hotel along Gen. Maxilom Ave. is also expected to rise.

“All these things will somehow create, of course, employment. And we are a service industry and we cannot just lay off workers to sacrifice service. We cannot do that. So, instead of displacing them, we have to add some more if business is good,” Lim said. (EOB)

where is gen. maxilom avenue, is this the main road going to mabolo?

SuperGrass78

January 29th, 2009, 11:08 AM

^^
its the former mango avenue

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

January 29th, 2009, 11:18 AM

http://www.belchfire.net/screenshots/6395-1186330286-waikiki_at_dusk,_hawaii_preview.jpg
^^How bout this? :nuts: Waikiki Beach, Hawaii

http://cache.virtualtourist.com/818618-Waikiki_from_Diamond_Head-Waikiki.jpg
^^it looks like the average height of those buildings in Waikiki is 20 storeys. i could be wrong. :cool:

^^^^

waaaaaaaaaa gusto ko maingon ana ang SRP....super...miski lang gud gamay lang nga portion naay beach katong sa kawit island lang, nga pwede makalakwan lakwan ba nya maka sun bathing ba kintahay ang mga turista(wa lang tay labot basin musamot tag kalagom)..hehehe! miski dili lang white sand miski ang existing lang nga sand diha, ang importante naay nindot nga open space and natural nga coast dili tanan seawall....i hope and i pray sa santo nino nga ma enlighten ang huna huna sa developers nya mahuna hunaan na nila...possible man gud kay naa naman gyud nang portion of beach diha...hehehe! :cheers:

^^ this IMO can only be possible in Mactan. Kawit is pretty much small for this kind of set-up even SRP too. It is better if we develop Mactan by capitalizing and maximizing its natural setup rather than make a certain place look as much as this or even better because in the first place SRP was not meant to be a resort town, second its very expensive and third it doesn't look natural in this case! If we make Mactan look this way, we need to transfer the international airport and possibly make a reclamation area in Mactan solely for the airport.

AmbutLang

January 29th, 2009, 11:39 AM

well, IMO, gamay biya ang height sa control tower bai @diehard... well that's their theory. possible man gyud. if layo pa d.i ang plane and approaching then paubos biya gyud na ang signal nila to the control tower so basin d.i ma.block gyud sa mga skyscrapers....:)

Bai, the transmission towers for the aircraft communication frequencies are not all in MCIA but also located called Mount Majic. The highest peak mountain facing line of site of Mactan also where most of the communication towers of the military and PLDT are. There are four backup systems of communicating between the tower and planes on the air and planes on the ground. Two by land lines and the other two are by modulated signals. The tower have sets of frequencies in MHZ(FM) which is cover by the tower within 50 miles radius and on the tarmac. The planes which is more than that distance will switch to ACC Area Control Center frequencies of which the facilities or control room is the building below the tower. The tansmitter cluster of towers are found at the southwest end of the runway and the reciever cluster towers are on the Northwest side end of the runway. The height restriction is base the safe minimum slope of approached as the plane makes the landing by ILS. The other restriction is if you imagine an ENBUDO cone which the airport is the center, the further it is the airport the height will be higher. Taas kaayo e explain in detail.
My old job was an Airways Technician which maintained the communication equipments used by the Air Traffic Controllers by the tower and ACC personnels, radar, ILS and DME(Distance Measuring Equipment).

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

January 29th, 2009, 11:51 AM

^^

well i did not know that bai. and i don't know sad that was your prev job d.i so thanks for the info. so in other words bai (with all the explaining :okay:), what do you mean? could skyscrapers possibly block communication in an approaching aircraft or doesn't matter?
I forgot to mention d.i that that incident was way long time ago when America and possibly the world, was still on the verge of making super large air passenger planes and have a little knowledge about what could possibly happen, and true, experiences really do teaches you valuable lessons and with this tragic incidents that caused millions of lives lost not just in the US but the entire world in aviation history, they are now literally avoiding all this kinds of things to happen again by improving aviation safety and procedures from the engines down to the people in the cockpit and the passengers themselves. And base from your explanation, that may answer or solve the problem of aviation safety at this point in time..

thanks bro!:) :okay:

dongRoy

January 29th, 2009, 12:01 PM

betro

January 29th, 2009, 12:30 PM

slimer

January 29th, 2009, 01:48 PM

Filinvest Corporate City (Filicity) Alabang, Muntinlupa City, Metro Manila
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2281/2182730676_6eb28aa5cd.jpg?v=0 http://www.dccd.com/images/landdevfili.jpg
by Edwin_Martinez of flickr

VERY SOON: Filinvest Corporate City Cebu, SRP :rock:

so far sa akong nahibaw-an, ang architects behind the above photos kay mao sad daw ang mo-design sa cebu project. i hope it's as grand or better?:)

LordCarnal

January 29th, 2009, 02:08 PM

ATO should amend and update their policies regarding height restrictions because what Cebu was 20 years ago is not what it is right now.

And besides, there's plenty of space in between Cebu and Bohol. The airplanes can always pass by that area there. Of all the places where an aircraft will pass, why should it pass at the SRP area?

Anyway, I took a shot of the CBP cluster just a while ago.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s223/arnold_carl/cbp_new01.jpg

And here's Ultima Residences-Fuente. They're now working on the 9th-10th floor. Lunchtime ni siya mao mingaw, but there are I guess around 80 workers during working hours (if I made my count correct, hehehe).

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s223/arnold_carl/urf01.jpg

leylander

January 29th, 2009, 02:29 PM

Ejames

January 29th, 2009, 02:30 PM

mura ko ug nag-basa sa dubai thread..
excited ko for SRP;
if 80 billion for 25 years so it means
3.2 billion a year ilang i-invest. WOW--

diehardbisdak

January 29th, 2009, 02:45 PM

diehardbisdak

January 29th, 2009, 02:47 PM

Diehard, imo siguro ning papa og mama.:)

nope...sa flickr ra na oy...

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RonnieR

January 29th, 2009, 02:51 PM

Guys, how many malls/shopping centers do you have now in Metro Cebu? Park Mall looks nice....

leylander

January 29th, 2009, 03:27 PM

...are you referring to the one along Archbishop Reyes...if yes, dili na mao! ...ang Magellan Hotel location is the dead end part of that street at the back of Asilo...tua gyud na sa pinaka-interior nga part ang former Magellan Hotel...

kabalo man ko asa ang magellan hotel. atubangan na sa st. moritz hotel. dayon luyo na sa katong old nga blue lagoon KTV. hehehe. actually, naay gakalot diha nga lawn kaayo. magtrabaho even at night. basig sa kabayan na na...

diehardbisdak

January 29th, 2009, 03:35 PM

^^ ...dili kaha ni mao ang gi-mention sa news today...nga, 2 hotels will be constructed...one at Gen. Maxilom and another one with 1,000 rooms but did not elaborate sa location....

meaning kanang gikalot karon mao na na ang Kabayan Hotels?

kabalo man ko asa ang magellan hotel. atubangan na sa st. moritz hotel. dayon luyo na sa katong old nga blue lagoon KTV. hehehe. actually, naay gakalot diha nga lawn kaayo. magtrabaho even at night. basig sa kabayan na na...

...here's some info about Legend Group's plan in Cebu:

Legend group plans hotel in Cebu
Sun-Star Online
August 2005

THE Filipino-owned Legend Hotels International Corp. (LHIC) plans to put up six more hotels in the country in the next two years. And it is eyeing Cebu as one of the priority areas for its expansion.

“In fact, we already have a property in Cebu. We bought the 10,000-square-meter lot of Magellan Hotel,” said Joselito Felipe, general manager of Kabayan Hotel Pasay, one of the hotels owned by LHIC, which has properties in Metro Manila and Palawan.

Magellan Hotel, located on Archbishop Reyes Ave., closed a few years ago.

Felipe also revealed that the construction of a 140-room hotel in Pasay City would start next month.

Accredited by the Department of Tourism with a three-star rating as an economy standard hotel, Kabayan Hotels cater to overseas Filipino workers (OFWs) and travelers from the provinces, Felipe said.

Felipe said travelers from Cebu make up 12 percent of Kabayan Hotels’ occupants.

“Most of those who come from Cebu and other provinces are businessmen who want to get a good accommodation for a reasonable price,” Felipe said.

Kabayan Hotel Cubao, which has 79 rooms, caters to those who travel mostly by land to and from the northern part of the country. On the other hand, travelers from or for the Visayas and Mindanao who arrive and depart through the Manila Domestic Airport are the usual market of the 109-room Kabayan Hotel Pasay.

Felipe said the OFW and domestic traveler market is underserved.

The Philippine Overseas Employment Administration (POEA) and the Overseas Workers Welfare Administration reported that the country deploys an average of 2,000 to 3,000 workers abroad daily, according to him.

For the first quarter of this year alone, the POEA recorded 270,264 OFWs deployed abroad, he said.

Manila is often the departure point for these workers. (ALC)

diehardbisdak

January 29th, 2009, 03:44 PM

^^ so, na-belong 'yan sa Arts...hehehe.... you know, may kapatid pala si Sitti na mas magaling kumanta sa kanya...her name is Ocho...

....joke! :lol:

AmbutLang

January 29th, 2009, 05:26 PM

Guys, how many malls/shopping centers do you have now in Metro Cebu? Park Mall looks nice....

I guess no less than eleven.

AmbutLang

January 29th, 2009, 05:29 PM

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diehardbisdak

January 29th, 2009, 05:34 PM

Citigroup plans more new products, investments for RP (http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/citigroup-plans-more-new-products-investments-rp)
Sun-Star Online
Thursday, January 29, 2009

OFFICIALS of Citibank Philippines revealed the bank will continue to invest in the country, even though its head office is saddled by a $45-billion loan from the US Government.

Mark Jones, Citigroup country business manager-global consumer group, said the bank is introducing new products and services to the Philippines, including mobile phone inquiries for credit card accounts.

Describing 2008 as a “very good year” for Citi-group in the Philippines, Jones said he “feels 2009 would be better.”

“Our franchise (in the Philippines and in Cebu) is stronger, well-positioned,” he said. He added that the bank expects to achieve this year the same 20-percent growth in revenues it realized last year.

He is confident that the bank will be able to grow its customer based as it expands its operations here.

Products, services

Jones cited the installation of more ATMs (automatic teller machines), the introduction of more credit cards and the strengthening of the bank’s online banking services.

He said the merger of Citifinancial and Citibank Savings, which enables all Citibank Savings branches to accept and extend loans aside from its existing functions, is also aimed at serving a wider customer base.

Agustin Davalos, Citi-group country retail bank director of global consumer banking, said the company is also on the lookout for appropriate locations for future branches of Citibank Savings.

At present, there are 22 branches of Citibank Savings, which are also loan centers.

While Citigroup reportedly laid off about 50,000 workers worldwide in November last year when it suffered large losses as a result of the US financial crisis, Jones said banking operations in the Philippines even “increased head count.”

“We continue to look for ways to do things more efficiently,” he said, adding that the bank’s efforts to increase automation affected some personnel.

“(While) we were able to streamline in one area, (we were able to) grow in another,” he said.

He said Citigroup’s decision to split its operations into two new companies—Citi Corp. takes care of the banking operations while riskier investment assets are handled by Citi Holdings.

He said the company’s operations in the Philippines are under Citi Corp., “which is our core business.” “This is very important for the Philippines because this means we intend to grow the business,” he said.

Amid uncertain times, bank officials said they remain committed to providing quality services to clients.

Judith Go, Citigold wealth management director, said favorable sentiment of clients increased last year even as the bank was reportedly hobbling.

“We saw a significant lift in customers’ sentiments. We’re regarded by customers as a bank that puts their priorities first,” she added.

Citigold Cebu branch manager Babette Peña said the bank’s customer base and revenues increased last year as Citibank continues to be a trusted name among Cebuanos. (LAP)

SuperGrass78

January 29th, 2009, 05:34 PM

^^ this IMO can only be possible in Mactan. Kawit is pretty much small for this kind of set-up even SRP too. It is better if we develop Mactan by capitalizing and maximizing its natural setup rather than make a certain place look as much as this or even better because in the first place SRP was not meant to be a resort town, second its very expensive and third it doesn't look natural in this case! If we make Mactan look this way, we need to transfer the international airport and possibly make a reclamation area in Mactan solely for the airport.

why not make it both, mactan and SRP, like a resort feel? anyway Cebu island can be a whole big resort if only we do the right thing in our environmental planning....hehhee..bitaw what i meant was SRP will be more valuable if the development will incorporate green and environmental friendly designs, which would give more breathing open space for everyone. the SRP must be designed to be differnet from what cebu city is today, to be more organized, clean and green, and highly effective both in pedestrian and vehicular circulation...

that is why I BEG The developers to include more open spaces and natural greener environment in their design...better urban design is not just merely aesthetics it actually amplifies mental well being and promotes peaceful harmonious living to the whole community....more and more and more natural open spaces plsss....hehehe!

diehardbisdak

January 29th, 2009, 05:58 PM

...so, the rumor is not true!

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Western Wats Cebu still operating (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=435823&publicationSubCategoryId=108)
Philstar Online
By Ehda M. Dagooc
Updated January 30, 2009 12:00 AM

Contrary to reports that Western Wats Cebu operation has gradually cut down on its job volumes and shut down, Cebu Investments Promotions Center (CIPC) confirmed that the Cebu facility is still operating and in fact, is the most productive among its facilities worldwide.

Western Wats Idaho is the one that closed and not the Cebu facility, CIPC said yesterday.

Western Wats now has over 13 phone centers. The Cebu facility being the first outside North America, is the largest and fastest growing, among its network.

Located at the Mactan Export Processing Zone (2), Western Wats Cebu started its operations in 2003, one of the first few call centers that opened in the province.

In August of last year, Western Wats Philippines Inc., opened its second facility in the country in Davao City.

The Cebu phone center is a wholly owned subsidiary of Western Wats and is exclusively dedicated to survey research. The facility is also directed by executive management at its headquarter in Orem, Utah. Cebu facility currently occupies three floors and employs more than 1,500 full time employees who operate 700 interviewing stations.

CIPC managing director Joel Mari S. Yu said in an interview with The Freeman earlier that hearsays on Western Wats closing down or having massive lay-offs may not be because of the global economic crisis, but rather may be due to ownership and internal issues faced by the company.

Yu downplayed impressions that the BPO industry, especially the call center sector will be affected by the economic downturn, and may resort to massive lay-offs in the next few months, saying, "The more outsourcing jobs will be dumped in the Philippines, as America or Europe based companies are streamlining their costs of operations."

"What's the use of keeping jobs in the States? Their [companies in US/Europe] main concern now is how to stay alive," Yu said reiterating that the more call centers and other e-Services related jobs will be expected in the Cebu in the next few months, instead of seeing retrenchments from the BPO sector.

In fact, Cebu aims to host about 20 percent of the BPO investment target of the Philippines by 2010. The national government is targeting to generate a total of US$12.99 billion, from BPO software industry alone.

According to Cebu Educational Development for Information Technology (Cedfit), with Cebu's edge in this area, the province is seen to get US$255 million of this entire national target.

As of end of December 2008, record showed that there are 5,000 software developers in Cebu, while the BPO industry in the province employs 22,000 workers.

diehardbisdak

January 29th, 2009, 06:02 PM

^^ by the way, someone is asking at IT & BPO Thread if Qimonda I.T. Center at Cebu City North Reclamation will not be finished because Qimonda Germany has filed bankruptcy recently....hehehhe! ...Qimonda Germany is not related with Qimonda Holdings, Inc. of Cebu... :okay:

Jimbu

January 29th, 2009, 06:10 PM

Council committee looking into plan to donate SRP lot (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=435969&publicationSubCategoryId=107)
Updated January 30, 2009 12:00 AM
The Freeman

Cebu - The proposal of Councilor Jose Daluz for the city to donate a parcel of land at the South Road Properties to the University of the Philippines is now pending before the City Council committee on laws.

The proposal was referred to the committee during the council’s regular session last Wednesday to determine the legal implications of the proposed donation.

But while UP is leaving it up to the council to decide on the proposal, UP Visayas – Cebu College Dean Enrique Avila said UP is serious in expanding to the SRP.

“It has been our President’s desire that UP Cebu will be able to contribute to the development of the community that is why we accepted their proposal… For as long as we are offered, we will honor our commitment. If the SRP is not for us, we have nothing to lose,” Avila said.

Daluz’ proposal stipulates that the city will donate a lot to UP but the university has to build a separate campus therein within a specific period of time, otherwise, the donation will be declared null and void.

Another condition is for UP to bring to the SRP extension programs like Masters in Business Administration and other continuing education courses.

Avila admitted the condition puts a lot of pressure on UP but the university decided to accept the challenge because UP President Emerlinda Roman sees it as an opportunity to develop UP and a chance for the school to contribute something to the community.

Roman has reportedly started allocating funds for the project, as it is her priority as newly elected president to develop the university’s regional campuses.

“We were offered because the city believes that with UP at the SRP offering MBA courses, the city can attract more investors to be locators at SRP,” Avila said. — Jessica Ann R. Pareja/JMO (THE FREEMAN)

diehardbisdak

January 29th, 2009, 06:12 PM

Lifestyle Center opens at Parkmall (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=435931&publicationSubCategoryId=111)
Philstar Online
Updated January 30, 2009 12:00 AM

As we warmly welcome the year of the Ox, Parkmall also unfolds the door to opportunity, business and lifestyle. Last January 8, Parkmall opened its second level, highlighting Living N’ Style which showcases Fine Home Furniture (sofas, dining sets, beds and lounge chairs); home accessories and décor and artificial flowers. Right beside Living N’ Style is Expo – Tile & Bath and Home Improvement Center which displays floor and wall tiles, bathroom furniture and quality home furnishings, fixtures, and accessories for home improvement.

Bargain hunters will love the newly opened Value Zone which is also at the second level. They’ve got dozens of micro retail shops carrying top of the line products in the bazaar for men and ladies apparels, native bags, accessories and delicacies, keychains, wallets, kiddie toys, novelty items, silver items, home décor, imported products and goods, jewelry, watches, and many more. There’s no need to go downtown for bargains.

Soon to open is the IT Zone/Digital Entertainment Hub. More dining tenants are coming in, such as Ice Castle, El Loco, Johnny’s Fish and Chips to take their post in Parkmall’s al fresco area. Yo.U Restobar will soon occupy a spot at the Enclave (Parkmall’s designated area for the party scene).

They offer a free ride from Mandaue CIC, St. Joseph, market and SM grounds to the mall and vice versa. Events such as the Bridal & Debutante Fair exhibits and the Nestea Beach Volleyball – Visayas leg in April are among the events that are to watch out for.

Come, visit and experience the Parkmall Lifestyle. For inquiries, please call 236-4147. Parkmall is located at the North Reclamation Road, beside the Cebu International Convention Center (CICC) in Mandaue City.

diehardbisdak

January 29th, 2009, 06:51 PM

flickr pic by @sid_saavedra

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3102/3236046485_569b7f4426_o.jpg

diehardbisdak

January 29th, 2009, 06:54 PM

flickr pic by @storm_crypt

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3368/3236052005_209eff5776_o.jpg

flesh_is_weak

January 29th, 2009, 08:24 PM

nope...sa flickr ra na oy...

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looks like the ugly duckling has turned into a swan :okay:

SuperGrass78

January 30th, 2009, 12:09 AM

too much passion for cebu....and its good...im even obsessed! wwwoha:cheers:

Sinjin P.

January 30th, 2009, 12:19 AM

I guess no less than eleven.

But for me, Cebu only has 2 malls (Ayala and SM), siguro if naa pa'y lain kay Parkmall. =)

EDIT: Mas klaro diay nga classification. For me, 2 ra ang "super-regional" malls sa Cebu (Ayala and SM). The rest can be considered as community malls.

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Dugay na kaayo kong sige'g reklamo (I guess 2006 pa 'to) nga Cebu "desperately" needs more malls.

Pero for now, okay na kaayo ang SM, 2nd balay na nako. :)

zidlakan

January 30th, 2009, 02:05 AM

dateline: manila (in an internet cafe)

@Zidlakan, Paul hopefully maapproved sayo ang mga business meeting nimo sa Manila for the good of Cebu City and Metro area. Have a safe trip.
OT: Maybe mid August pako uli. Paul

k fred, we're looking forward to sake and soju by mid august, he he

Speaking of Migrants, what ever happened to that plan of Mayor Tom to purchase a 100-hectare property of the Aznars in Brgy. Toong? Is this plan of building an "Urban Poor City" still in place? Would the city be really be having a decent and designated place/relocation site for informal settlers?

it's still there. bimbo fernandez is pursuing it. it dovetails with the other
plan of connecting a highway from the SRP to that area. that way, we open
up the south district to better development opportunities. nabayaan na baya
na'ng south sa north ...

tapad man sila og seat. hehehehehe!chicka lageh sad ka bai @slemarken..hehehehehhe well, actions speak louder than words!!toink!!:lol:

bitaw he he wa jud ko'y gisulti ha ha ha. pwede man nagkatapad ra sad to
sila ... nagkasakay unya ... nagkatapad ... di ba? :lol:

^^open to the public man ning special session bai noh? puwede ta mahimong audience ani?

i'm not sure. i'll ask. regular sessions are always open. special sessions are
sometimes open, sometimes exective sessions, meaning not open to the
public. sometimes pud there are cases nga not open to the public but the
press is allowed. but i'm almost sure this special session on monday is open
to the public. but i'll just still ask ...

http://www.belchfire.net/screenshots/6395-1186330286-waikiki_at_dusk,_hawaii_preview.jpg
^^How bout this? :nuts: Waikiki Beach, Hawaii
http://cache.virtualtourist.com/818618-Waikiki_from_Diamond_Head-Waikiki.jpg
^^it looks like the average height of those buildings in Waikiki is 20 storeys. i could be wrong. :cool:^^ this IMO can only be possible in Mactan. Kawit is pretty much small for this kind of set-up even SRP too. It is better if we develop Mactan by capitalizing and maximizing its natural setup rather than make a certain place look as much as this or even better because in the first place SRP was not meant to be a resort town, second its very expensive and third it doesn't look natural in this case! If we make Mactan look this way, we need to transfer the international airport and possibly make a reclamation area in Mactan solely for the airport.

hmmmm ... try to find an old plan we prepared for mactan ... circa 1997-99,
called the mactan island integrated master plan study (MIIMPS). the entire
eastern seaboard of mactan was envisioned to be waikiki-type of develop-
ment - a wide north-south boulevard from punta engano all the way down
to cordova (along the existing road now but widened to 4 or 6 lanes) and
the resorts and the beachfront connected to each other, without any fences
like what they have now ... tsk .. tsk .. i really miss that plan. it was fun
preparing it ... sort of like dreaming but hoping the dream comes true. we
were working with a hawaii-based consultant then and one of his comments
was, "the present set-up is that when you enter a resort, you think that
you're entering a concentration camp - armed guards, canine dogs, and all."
in waikiki - you can walk from your resort to all other resorts because the
beachfronts are connected.

i really hope and wish they still keep and pursue that plan ...

My old job was an Airways Technician which maintained the communication equipments used by the Air Traffic Controllers by the tower and ACC personnels, radar, ILS and DME(Distance Measuring Equipment).

this was a long ... long ... long time ago ahahaha :lol: peace, bay fred ...

and now for the GOOD NEWS!!!

after a long long meeting yesterday, the WORLD BANK has approved a
US$365,000 preparation study for the Cebu City - BRT! and they have
indicated their serious consideration in funding the project after the study!

he he he init pa ni nga balita guys, wa pa kabaw ang media, he he

WE'RE IN! The Cebu City BRT is getting closer to reality.
the World Bank would not spend that kind of money just for a study if
they don't think it's a project worth pursuing ...

Ex!lE

January 30th, 2009, 02:09 AM

^ thanks for the good news, sir Paul, and job well done. :banana:

Fly2Bacolod

January 30th, 2009, 02:22 AM

my favorite building in Cebu...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/38/123241462_79f7b82e92.jpg?v=0
flickr pic by marvin gaerian

rau

January 30th, 2009, 02:27 AM

dateline: manila (in an internet cafe)

it's still there. bimbo fernandez is pursuing it. it dovetails with the other
plan of connecting a highway from the SRP to that area. that way, we open
up the south district to better development opportunities. nabayaan na baya
na'ng south sa north ...

sakto gyud ka sir paul..i hope the government can make pardo as another "banilad-talamban" for cebu city.. :)

bOrN2BwILd

January 30th, 2009, 02:52 AM

dateline: manila (in an internet cafe)

and now for the GOOD NEWS!!!

after a long long meeting yesterday, the WORLD BANK has approved a
US$365,000 preparation study for the Cebu City - BRT! and they have
indicated their serious consideration in funding the project after the study!

he he he init pa ni nga balita guys, wa pa kabaw ang media, he he

WE'RE IN! The Cebu City BRT is getting closer to reality.
the World Bank would not spend that kind of money just for a study if
they don't think it's a project worth pursuing ...

^^i say this one really is a good news for all of us cebuanos...
wow this one is a very big project :banana:

leylander

January 30th, 2009, 03:23 AM

way to go sir paul!

a_terisk78y™

January 30th, 2009, 03:24 AM

goodnews!

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

January 30th, 2009, 03:27 AM

hmmmm ... try to find an old plan we prepared for mactan ... circa 1997-99,
called the mactan island integrated master plan study (MIIMPS). the entire
eastern seaboard of mactan was envisioned to be waikiki-type of develop-
ment - a wide north-south boulevard from punta engano all the way down
to cordova (along the existing road now but widened to 4 or 6 lanes) and
the resorts and the beachfront connected to each other, without any fenceslike what they have now ... tsk .. tsk .. i really miss that plan. it was fun
preparing it ... sort of like dreaming but hoping the dream comes true. we
were working with a hawaii-based consultant then and one of his comments
was, "the present set-up is that when you enter a resort, you think that
you're entering a concentration camp - armed guards, canine dogs, and all."
in waikiki - you can walk from your resort to all other resorts because the
beachfronts are connected.

i really hope and wish they still keep and pursue that plan ...

now this i have been dreaming about! I know there were plans before about making Mactan look just right to be called "world-class" by developing its rocky coastline with not so very impressive coastline where people can walk entirely along the beach just like Boracay, Bantayan, or even Waikiki but SirPaul, wala nagyud kay balita about ani? wala nagyud nila gi-open balik ang possibility of realizing this very very exciting plan? ma-disappoint man pud ta maghuna-huna...:ohno::ohno:

rustyboi

January 30th, 2009, 03:55 AM

dateline: manila (in an internet cafe)
Sir Paul, are you in an internet cafe sa Robinsons Galleria called "Manila"? or basin naka Wi-fi in some coffee shops sa mall. maka remember man ko akong pinuy-anan sauna. :)

hmmmm ... try to find an old plan we prepared for mactan ... circa 1997-99,
called the mactan island integrated master plan study (MIIMPS). the entire
eastern seaboard of mactan was envisioned to be waikiki-type of develop-
ment - a wide north-south boulevard from punta engano all the way down
to cordova (along the existing road now but widened to 4 or 6 lanes) and
the resorts and the beachfront connected to each other, without any fences
like what they have now ... tsk .. tsk .. i really miss that plan. it was fun
preparing it ... sort of like dreaming but hoping the dream comes true. we
were working with a hawaii-based consultant then and one of his comments
was, "the present set-up is that when you enter a resort, you think that
you're entering a concentration camp - armed guards, canine dogs, and all."
in waikiki - you can walk from your resort to all other resorts because the
beachfronts are connected.

i really hope and wish they still keep and pursue that plan ...

oh WOW, so my teacher in elementary was right, that was 10 years ago when she said that Mactan Island was envisioned to become the Hawaii of the Philippines. so BEST IN PLANNING ra jud ning Lapu-lapu. :lol:

how about Sunset Blvd in Mactan coastline? advantage na kay naa naman Bigfoot nearby. :okay:

and now for the GOOD NEWS!!!

after a long long meeting yesterday, the WORLD BANK has approved a
US$365,000 preparation study for the Cebu City - BRT! and they have
indicated their serious consideration in funding the project after the study!

he he he init pa ni nga balita guys, wa pa kabaw ang media, he he

WE'RE IN! The Cebu City BRT is getting closer to reality.
the World Bank would not spend that kind of money just for a study if
they don't think it's a project worth pursuing ...

:bow: :bow: :bow:

you're the man Sir Paul! your report was very convincing man gud that's why! Hehe

mOjicAn

January 30th, 2009, 04:01 AM

...wow..a huge project! i could see Cebu a year or two to have a BRT..:banana:
^^i still cant imagine!!!!! thank you @sir Paul for your determination and perseverance that this plan to be pursued. anyway, this is for all of us, for the good of all cebuanos.

@sir paul, kinza man pud ang mo.undergo sa preparation study sa BRT?, well of course under jud na sa imong office. pero mo.hire mo ug outsiders to help conduct the study?

SleMarKen

January 30th, 2009, 04:24 AM

Naa diay SRP Jackosalem RC field sa SRP? Si Mr. Jack the Wack ang ga sulti...

dongRoy

January 30th, 2009, 04:26 AM

dateline: manila (in an internet cafe)

and now for the GOOD NEWS!!!

after a long long meeting yesterday, the WORLD BANK has approved a
US$365,000 preparation study for the Cebu City - BRT! and they have
indicated their serious consideration in funding the project after the study!

he he he init pa ni nga balita guys, wa pa kabaw ang media, he he

WE'RE IN! The Cebu City BRT is getting closer to reality.
the World Bank would not spend that kind of money just for a study if
they don't think it's a project worth pursuing ...

Congrats! :applause: Congrats! :applause: Congrats! :applause:
Way to go @zidlakan! You're the man! :banana:

bakasaurus

January 30th, 2009, 04:26 AM

Wooot! Nice one Sir Paul. :banana:

If things go smoothly (and now that the study is approved and underway) what's the timetable? Around what month and year will it be operational. Hehe. Syempre excited na kaayo.:lol:

About the beachfront of Mactan, I think mao na karon na gipangkural kay hadlok man ang owners na ang mga pobreng sama namo manulod sa ilahang resorts. Meaning, it would probably need for majority of metro cebu residents to improve to at least middle class status before nila possibly iconvert into something like Waikiki. I always have mixed-feelings everytime a new expensive hotel opens in Lapu-Lapu City. For one, I know its a nice employment opportunity for a lot of people, but I am more saddened by the fact that we are forever serving other people who enjoy all the good things that we are naturally blessed with. Pananglitan, ang atoang nindot na dive spots, majority kay foreigners ang nakaappreciate ug nakapahimos (the same fate sa mga panday nga sige ug himo ug mga nindot nga balay ug bulding apan ang ilahang kaugalingong balay kay barongbarong ra intawn). Sa una, maligo mi sa Kitambs (Kilid sa Tambuli) ug sa KiMB (Kilid sa Maribago Bluewaters) ug muduol mi sa may resort kay mubarog dayon ang guard sa tulay-tulay (kanang mini wharf nga koral) unya magbitbit sa iyang pistola or shotgun. I don't know but I felt sad and angry at the same time kay I am a product of this land (on my mother's side, I am a descedant of a very long line of people probably dating to the time of Lapu-Lapu pa na nagpuyo sa may Mactan/Buaya/Ibo area) so I feel a sense of entitlement.
Mura ba ug if I went to another country or another island for that matter, unya dili ko pasudlon makaingon ko na okay ra pero its another story to be in your home island unya mismo ikaw dili pasudlon.
Ug sa laing bahin pa, I always thought that the part of the shore that is covered by water in the highest tide is public property and its actually against the law to put barriers on the coast, unless those wharfs are really used for public purposes (Not too sure about this one, Sir Paul can you please verify this?:))
What I know though is it impedes the natural ebb and flow of tide and creates local areas of poor circulation and therefore a bad quality of water. Unya madepositohan sa mga lomot ug hugaw nga naanod. This is very evident in many beaches in Marigondon.

Oy, pasensya na sa kataas sa akoang post. Hehe. Pahungaw sa gibati, pero I think there might be some things to be picked up there since those are from a personal point of view of a resident of Opon. What I'm witnessing lang is that the extensive flat spaces of the interior of our island is being rapidly converted into subdivisions in the last couple of years. Samtang naglumba pod og expansion ang mga squatters sa seasides sa Mactan Channel. And the government has been sitting down and doing nothing. Oh except diay katong ASEAN summit katong nanghatag sila ug libreng pintal aron mauniform ang kolor sa atop.:ohno:I hope Lapu-Lapu City would finally elect a good mayor. The likes of Mayor Tom minus the tantrums. Hehe.:lol:

SleMarKen

January 30th, 2009, 05:05 AM

72nd Charter Anniversary of Cebu City...
Cebu City Charter month celebration starts this monday...
exhibit @ the Cebu City Hall Legislative building lobby...
Feb 11 an interfaith forum at St Theresa's auditorium...
Feb 14 Family day of Cebu City government (no venue yet)...
Usual Mem Lecture of Don Vicente Rama...
Awarding of the outstanding Cebu Leaders...
Awarding of the sports hall of fame Feb 24...

Go BRT:rock:
Thanks Sir Paul :okay:

mOjicAn

January 30th, 2009, 05:14 AM

^^bai @bakasaurus, mao na jud nah, there's nothing we can do to change the current setup( for now), its difficult for the management and even the government to implement such idea to have a Waikiki-like seaboard in Mactan, to think we are promoting the entire island as a tourist destination in the country, and the tourists will just found out unsa ang mga resorts dinhi sa atoa, mga beggars naabot ug libod-suroy sa sulod sa Shangrila ug Hilton!?

bati sad kaayo!dibah?..........but..im not saying that i am not pro to them, but lets just see and thnk otherwise....its only the time, as you've said, that majority of the cebuanos are lift up from their current status in society, that we could have this kind of Waikiki beach in Mactan, new york times square in CBP or SRP, etc... ^^ sims like a huge change is needed for everything!!!faet!

opinion lang bai..

great184

January 30th, 2009, 05:28 AM

Go BRT!!

Go Best Road Transport! It's time we had a really effective public transport that didn't depend on subsidies. Another first from the pioneering city! :)

RonnieR

January 30th, 2009, 06:12 AM

I guess no less than eleven.

Thanks for the info....:)

RonnieR

January 30th, 2009, 06:14 AM

Good news for Cebu BRT.....very positive start for 2009. Soon, we'll see articulated buses that traverse around Metro Cebu, other cities will surely follow...

no news about BRT in Metro Manila...they are so focused on LRT/MRT...I like BRT.

RonnieR

January 30th, 2009, 06:16 AM

my favorite building in Cebu...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/38/123241462_79f7b82e92.jpg?v=0
flickr pic by marvin gaerian

What building is this? looks nice, cool

SuperGrass78

January 30th, 2009, 06:34 AM

now this i have been dreaming about! I know there were plans before about making Mactan look just right to be called "world-class" by developing its rocky coastline with not so very impressive coastline where people can walk entirely along the beach just like Boracay, Bantayan, or even Waikiki but SirPaul, wala nagyud kay balita about ani? wala nagyud nila gi-open balik ang possibility of realizing this very very exciting plan? ma-disappoint man pud ta maghuna-huna...:ohno::ohno:

naa baya untay mga sandy portions diha sa mactan nga pwede unta ma lahos lahos natog lakaw...naa lay ali..:lol:.kanang area sa maribago(Cebu beach club, maribago blue waters, tambuli, cebu white sands hangtod sa club kontiki) og kanang sa marigondon (the whole area before sa baybayon sa plantaion bay taas taas pod na) pwede kayo mahimong open, pwede lahos2x nang beach diha kung magkasinabot lang mga resort owners...

leylander

January 30th, 2009, 06:35 AM

Mootown

January 30th, 2009, 06:42 AM

^^

i guess the reason why ATO restricted building tall skyscrapers in the SRP its because it might block signals of incoming aircrafts landing at Mactan. We can't afford to have serious problems if the control tower and the airplane itself can't communicate properly just because of those tall skyscrapers blocking the signal. Ive watched Plane Crash Investigation on Nat Geo about a week ago and there was one unfortunate incident in US aviation history (I forgot what year was it) that a passenger aircraft (Air Mexico) that was nearing LAX plunged deep into a residential area near Los Angeles without the pilot knowing that they crashed against a small Cesna type plane behind their back and without the controller knowing it because when he later testified to the court he never saw the smaller plane drawing nearer the bigger plane. All the passengers died as well as those in the residential area where the plane land crashed! It was a total rumble and ash! Of course there were a lot of investigations, a lot of speculations and many intriguing questions as to why did it happen and one of the them was it could be because of the tall skyscrapers in LA that may possibly block the signal between the controller and the pilot that the controller never informed the pilot of Air Mexico about a possible collision with a smaller plane just because it missed showing up on his monitor. and we don't want it to happen here. Simbako lang!

If you look the picture below the distance from the LAX to downtown LA is about 10 miles it could not be that the building could have block the signal of the tower it was probably more human error and they blame others for their mistakes.

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/4597/laxct8.jpg

I was in San Diego for a vacation just before the new year I stayed at Sheraton hotel in downtown San Diego very close to the airport. Planes constantly taking of and landing every 10 minutes. I was the 25 floor and i see the planes approaching and always from the east side (on the picture south or lower part) looking at the picture below from runway to Sheraton is about 1.25 miles. The left side of the picture is the downtown area of San Diego and buildings here stand at least 25 floors or more than 75 meters or taller.

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/4565/sandiegosheratoncopyif7.jpg

Here is another one
Laguardia Airport New York
The distance is 3 miles from the Manhattan District area

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/702/laguardiaairportxk7.jpg

McCarran Airport Las Vegas
Less than a mile walking distance only from the strip the casino hotels here are more than 25 floors but less than 60 my rough estimate.

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/6921/mccarranairportcopydc8.jpg

Then here is Mactan International Airport
Shorter line- one end is SM mall and the other is the runway (3.3 miles)
Longer line- SRP From the Runway (5.6 miles)

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8482/mactaninternationalairpgt4.jpg

What you guys think does Cebu City have any height restrictions on their buildings?

SuperGrass78

January 30th, 2009, 06:45 AM

zidlakan

January 30th, 2009, 06:55 AM

sakto gyud ka sir paul..i hope the government can make pardo as another "banilad-talamban" for cebu city.. :)

when i was 3rd year college (around 1980 ... tiguwanga na nako oi!!!!), my
instructor in urban planning in CIT was the late Arch. Ignacio Salgado, my
predecessor - former city planning officer of cebu city. in his lectures then,
he always told us there were 2 growth point areas (GPAs) of cebu city -
talamban in the north, and pardo in the south. now after 28 years, mura'g
ang talamban na-realize pero and pardo wala. we'll try to change that ...

Sir Paul, are you in an internet cafe sa Robinsons Galleria called "Manila"? or basin naka Wi-fi in some coffee shops sa mall. maka remember man ko akong pinuy-anan sauna. :)

oh WOW, so my teacher in elementary was right, that was 10 years ago when she said that Mactan Island was envisioned to become the Hawaii of the Philippines. so BEST IN PLANNING ra jud ning Lapu-lapu. :lol:

how about Sunset Blvd in Mactan coastline? advantage na kay naa naman Bigfoot nearby. :okay:

you're the man Sir Paul! your report was very convincing man gud that's why! Hehe

no i always frequent station 168 sa makati - its a gaming internet cafe half
of which are koreans! ungo baya ko'g MMORPGs, so when i'm forced to stay
overnight in manila, i stay in station 168.

yeah your teacher was right. around 1998, we were working with a famous
hawaiin consultant and we did prepare a plan which would have launched
mactan to greater heights. i really hope they still retain the plan ...

bigfoot has a plan of their own for a boardwalk facing pond A. let's wait and
see ...

no, give credit where credit is due. it's mayor osmeña who convinced the
world bank. ako igo ra ko "tig" ...

...wow..a huge project! i could see Cebu a year or two to have a BRT..:banana:
^^i still cant imagine!!!!! thank you @sir Paul for your determination and perseverance that this plan to be pursued. anyway, this is for all of us, for the good of all cebuanos.

@sir paul, kinza man pud ang mo.undergo sa preparation study sa BRT?, well of course under jud na sa imong office. pero mo.hire mo ug outsiders to help conduct the study?

by the way the DOTC study will be bid out next week na. this is a P16M
study which will analyse the transport situation in the Talisay-Cebu-Mandaue
-Lapu-lapu corridor and possibly plan for a BRT. DOTC will handle the study,
with local consultants, my office will simply coordinate ...

the world bank study will concentrate on the Talamban-CBD corridor. WB
will hire international consultants who will study the transport economics and
make some preliminary design of the system. coordinate ra sad and ako
office.

the DOTC study is scheduled for 10 months, WB for 9 months, they'll
probably start at the same time and hopefully completed by end of the
year ...

Good news for Cebu BRT.....very positive start for 2009. Soon, we'll see articulated buses that traverse around Metro Cebu, other cities will surely follow...

no news about BRT in Metro Manila...they are so focused on LRT/MRT...I like BRT.

there was a news report yesterday ... congress got mad because there were
four agencies (DOTC, LRTA, PNR, and BCDA) who were all ON TOP of the
7 proposed LRT-MRT projects in manila. imagine 7 proposed projects and
4 agencies were on top ... and they didn't know why there were 4 of them?

and they have to act fast. this morning i was getting an MRT ride from
Quezon Ave. station to Ayala station, i had to wait and take the FOURTH
train cause the first 3 were super full! and along the way i noticed that
EDSA was clogged between Quezon City and Makati. wa na kay kapaingnan
karon sa manila, mag bus man ka, taxi, LRT/MRT - puno the whole day.
that's why importante jud to plan ahead ... even if we don't have that kind
of congestion yet in cebu, we need to put the BRT in place ...

zidlakan

January 30th, 2009, 07:22 AM

bakasaurus

January 30th, 2009, 07:40 AM

hehe sakto gyud ka..kahinomdom gyud ko sa una nga gahuot pag-ayo ako pamati kay diha sa tongo sa marigindon area galangoy langoy mi nya hinglapas mi sa boundary sa usa ka resort nga murag korean na ang tag-iya...naa gyud sa baybayon ang korean nya nanghinawak nya gipamadlong mi nga pahawaon sa ila kunong area, iyaha pa gitawag ang gaurd nga dunay dalang shot gun....grabee kayo akong kalagot ato....
paet pa gyud kay ako favorite beach cove sa tungo sa una, pagbalik nako gikakab na ang white sand nya gipulihan og taas kayo nga seawall nya mura nag pantalan, daghan videoke ibabaw sa seawall...mao manang gitawag ron siguro og ocean pearl leche! sa una cove na nga mingaw nya naay white sand, nindot kaayo, karon mura na og pantalan...pastilan ako dughan naghuot pagkakita....

Bai Supersagbot, you mean kanang left side sa tongo beach sa una..hawan ug nindot kaayo ang tubig unya naay white sad small coves and rocky cliffs? Oo.. nice kaayo na sa una..paghighschool nako ingana pa. When I was in college na, gidevelop na dha gihimo ug ocean pearl ug blue reef. Nwagtang ang natural seascape.Puros wall na lang.:ohno:

nobody seems to regulating the developments in mactan ... keeping the rustic
serenity of nature seems to be forgotten ...

@Zidlakan

Sir Paul, about anang mga privately-owned na mga wharf/koral, apil pa ba na sa private property ang intertidal zone? Di ba public man na ang part na maabot sa tubig sa highest tide? Buot huna2xon di ba na against sa balaod ang maghimo aning mga structures? Murag nakasugat ko ato ug 'No development is allowed on any beach closer than 30 m to the high tide mark' na statement.

SuperGrass78

January 30th, 2009, 07:51 AM

@bakasaurus

yes kana nga area bai...pag-adto pa gyud nako last kay nagyawyaw gyud ko with the local nga mangingisda nga nagpuyo didto, nya i ask them ngano gikabkab ang dako nga portion sa whitesand and gipulihan og seawall, nya ang ila tubag nako "lahi naman nanag-iya ana sir, nakuyapan man gani tong tag-iya ana sa una, si manang katong tigpaninda diha ba, sa pagkakita niya sa gibuhat nila sa baybay..hinguli naman lang tingali siya sa zamboanga"....
sus hingdako man na akong tingog og niyawyaw og comment sa lugar, naa bitaw nay hingduol nya ning-ingon unsa man diay problema diha bai? hehehe nahadlok ko ninghilom nalang ko kay kuyaw baya kuno ning taga opon....:lol:

pero sayang gyud kayo ang lugar oi..anha gyud ko sa una pirme at least kausa sa usa ka bulan. karon wala nakoy gana mo-adto miski moingon sila nga alegre kuno kay naay videokehan, well makavideoke raman ko diri syudad, angay unta lahi napod nang sa dagat...:ohno:

SuperGrass78

January 30th, 2009, 07:58 AM

sayang pod kaayo oi. nga dili pako hilig og picture2x sa una...wala gyud koy handumanan atong nindot pa ang tongo...one of the best coves baya to sa mactan oi...kung natarong lang og atiman....ang right side pa gyud ato, kung mag-atubang ka sa dagat kay taas gamay ang baybay nga white sand, gipanag-iyahan na sa korean karon, istrikto kaayo dili man galing ka kalangoy langoy sa tubig nga nalakip sa ilaha...:ohno:

RonnieR

January 30th, 2009, 08:07 AM

as if nobody reads my post:

repost;
my favorite building in Cebu...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/38/123241462_79f7b82e92.jpg?v=0
flickr pic by marvin gaerian

What building is this? looks nice, cool

AmbutLang

January 30th, 2009, 08:17 AM

^^I think that is Pag Ibig Building is that correct Jarenz or Vatic mga realtors.

That is why, I go to Bogo, sa San Remegio Beach para maligo sa dagat dili pa busy. May balay lang kami sa Bogo. Kung sa Cebu, Mactan swimmimg pool lang oi para walay hago sa pangandan sa mga pagkaaon.

AmbutLang

January 30th, 2009, 08:41 AM

dateline: manila (in an internet cafe)

i really hope and wish they still keep and pursue that plan ...

this was a long ... long ... long time ago ahahaha :lol: peace, bay fred ...

and now for the GOOD NEWS!!!

after a long long meeting yesterday, the WORLD BANK has approved a
US$365,000 preparation study for the Cebu City - BRT! and they have
indicated their serious consideration in funding the project after the study!

he he he init pa ni nga balita guys, wa pa kabaw ang media, he he

WE'RE IN! The Cebu City BRT is getting closer to reality.
the World Bank would not spend that kind of money just for a study if
they don't think it's a project worth pursuing ...

The airport terminal was only one storey with jalousies windows pa. Nagprocess pa magbutang siya aircon sa predeparture area. Ika gabii manglabang me sa tarmac aron mutan-aw TV sa predeparture kay wala nay aeroplano mo take-off or landing. :lol:

That's good news Paul sa imong paglakaw sa Manila. Magsugod unya atong bag-ong means of public tranportations. Maayo unta ipang one way mostly atong mga daan.

KING CITY

January 30th, 2009, 08:45 AM

ung income ng mactan ay napupunta ba sa Cebu City, although separate ung island?

Ex!lE

January 30th, 2009, 08:51 AM

^ nope, dili man sakop sa Cebu City ang Mactan Is.

KING CITY

January 30th, 2009, 08:58 AM

^ nope, dili man sakop sa Cebu City ang Mactan Is.
Ah! just like Davao City and Samal Island.. :) thnx..
ang big difference lng ay nasa Mactan ang Airport..

Hiroshima

January 30th, 2009, 09:01 AM

Congrats! to Sir Paul! You did a great job!

I know your name and your work way back in college as a Broadcast Comm Major. hehe

About the NatGeo - Air Crash Investigation (Saw this last year) feature mentioned by Mainstream Hunter, as far as I can remember, it was mentioned that during that time planes are equipped with tracking instruments that will only provide only the movement of the plane. Dili maapil ang speed and height above sea level. something like that.. correct me if i'm wrong. hehe

One more thing, bag-o na ang aspalto sa highway between innodata and wireless (as of today). But the traffic in Paknaan, Tabok, Jollibee Highway, San Miguel, Wireless is always bad. The Mandaue traffic guys should be more strict and implement changes.

This is my first post here. I finally signed up. :lol:

SleMarKen

January 30th, 2009, 09:07 AM

^^welcome and enjoy.. post away;)
btw, why HEROSHIMA? Been there?

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SIr Paul, ask lang ko if open to the public na ni nga park kaning luyo sa Malacañan sa Sugbo... Kay ako nya dal on ako uyab diha:).

flickr pics by @slerz
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bakasaurus

January 30th, 2009, 09:14 AM

Ah! just like Davao City and Samal Island.. thnx..

Yeah actually. When I went to Davao and Samal 2 years ago, I really liked Samal because it reminded me of an earlier, and a slightly elevated version of Mactan. I told my friends that Id love to buy a lot in Samal when I will have money in the future. HAha.

btw, why HEROSHIMA? Been there?

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SIr Paul, ask lang ko if open to the public na ni nga park kaning luyo sa Malacañan sa Sugbo... Kay ako nya dal on ako uyab diha.

Bitaw. Naa kas Hiroshima karon? If naa, silingan ta ug probinsya kay naa ko sa Okayama now. Hehe.

Bai Slerz, tyming jud suroy dha if bugnaw2x ang panahon hehehehe..aron nindot igakos2x..:lol:

Hiroshima

January 30th, 2009, 10:06 AM

Bitaw. Naa kas Hiroshima karon? If naa, silingan ta ug probinsya kay naa ko sa Okayama now. Hehe.

hehehe.. nope. naa ra ko cebu... diri office CBP area.
Hiroshima kay my classmates in highschool used to call me that.

Dugay nako wa ka adtog SRP.. the last time I was there kay prenup shoot para sa wedding sa ako amigo who's connected sa City Hall before (di ko sure kong connected pa ba gihapon siya.. dugay na mi wa magkita)

dongRoy

January 30th, 2009, 10:22 AM

RonnieR

January 30th, 2009, 10:43 AM

^^I think that is Pag Ibig Building is that correct Jarenz or Vatic mga realtors.

Thanks

LordCarnal

January 30th, 2009, 12:29 PM

From Cebu Heritage thread...

Did you guys know that VISION Theater was originally a hotel building?

If there's a Luneta Hotel in Manila with very beautiful and European architecture, then we also have this Vision Theater building here in Cebu which used to be a hotel.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/visiontheaterashotel.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s223/arnold_carl/cebu_heritage/visiontheater.jpg

Jimbu

January 30th, 2009, 12:47 PM

^^bisdak ra kaayo ad nila: gisubhan sa sabado, hunyo 24 1933:)

bakasaurus

January 30th, 2009, 01:05 PM

Wala pa gyud kaayo koy grasp about how the BRT would work. So I have a few questions.

1. Will it affect the entire metropolis? I mean all major road networks dayon ang butangan ug BRT? If dili, unsa kahang roads ang possible nga unahon? Ang banilad?

2. Are we going to copy Bogota's BRT system? Does it mean nga padak-an pud gamay ang roads nato? Kay di ba one lane for buses man dayon two lanes for private vehicles ang sa bogota? (based sa pictures)

3. Will the buses operate 24 hours a day? Or basin wala nay buses after midnight?

4. Will the BRT be implemented in the SRP first? Di ba murag useless since wala pay tenants sa SRP? And kung maimplement ang BRT in two years, di ba murag pila pa kahay matukod diha sa SRP nga buildings?

5. How will the government handle the loss of jobs due to this change? Are the drivers all assured of 'driving positions' sa mga buses? Maigo kaha? Let's say a bus can accommodate 30 people. And a jeep can accommodate around 15. So, more or less, half ra sa affected drivers ang pwede mahatagan ug jobs. And I don't think daghan kaayo nga buses ang magoperate. So more or less, daghan nga mga jeeps ang ma-stambay na ana?

Bai leylander, daghan ug info about ani sa Thread 4 man tingali sa Cebu Infrastructure and Urban PLanning thread. Naa man tingali gani didto ang gipost ni Sir Paul na possible routes or mga corridors na iserve sa BRT. Unya ang SRP sa akong nahinumduman kay naay proposed na internal circuit/loop na muconnect ra pod sa talisay to lapu-lapu man tingali to na loop. Pero murag unahon ang uban na loops kay, as you've said, wala pa may tenants so wala pay market para sa SRP. So mura og later pa na cya.
Eventually, kaning imong mga questions kay apil sad ni sa study ang pagpangita ug mga tubag ani. I am, for one, also eager to hear about the findings of the study with regards to some ways to solve the problem of displacement of the jeepney drivers that ply these affected routes. Kani, I think, ang usa sa mga pinakadako na impacts and anticipated source of opposition. How do we break it gently to the jeepney drivers?

My stand is of course for the speediest but most pragmatic implementation of BRT! Hehe. :lol:

The study will provide us with the nitty-gritty of things though so maybe we need to hold our breaths while the study commences.:banana:

Note diay para sa kinsay naay abilidad:

Can we make the important figures and maps (regarding planning and BRT routes and all those) sticky so we dont have to repost it repeatedly? Calling mods and experts. Don't wanna go through all the hundreds of pages in the previous thread right now kay sayu pa ko ugma mag field work. Hehe. Thanks!

AmbutLang

January 30th, 2009, 01:10 PM

From Cebu Heritage thread...

Did you guys know that VISION Theater was originally a hotel building?

If there's a Luneta Hotel in Manila with very beautiful and European architecture, then we also have this Vision Theater building here in Cebu which used to be a hotel.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s223/arnold_carl/cebu_heritage/visiontheater.jpg

Yes bai. My parents me told me when I was small. We used to have a house in Garfield - Tres de Abril before(sunog during war) and after the WWII.

slimer

January 30th, 2009, 01:25 PM

^^bisdak ra kaayo ad nila: gisubhan sa sabado, hunyo 34 1933:)

Hunyo '24' bai hehe...
good news para sa BRT! hope maapil gyud ang pagka-pedestrian-friendly ani!

dongRoy

January 30th, 2009, 01:31 PM

5. How will the government handle the loss of jobs due to this change? Are the drivers all assured of 'driving positions' sa mga buses? Maigo kaha? Let's say a bus can accommodate 30 people. And a jeep can accommodate around 15. So, more or less, half ra sa affected drivers ang pwede mahatagan ug jobs. And I don't think daghan kaayo nga buses ang magoperate. So more or less, daghan nga mga jeeps ang ma-stambay na ana?

If I may, I would like to comment on this issue. I do not have any psychological or scientific or economic basis for this but IMO, I think the LTFRB is one of the unforeseen errors of our government.

Ideally, it should be the government's responsibility to provide a mass transportation system. Technically, the government did provide such mass transportation system however it's done in the form of franchising.

Economically speaking, it did create a sort of "transportation" industry in our country. It provided livelihood. Unfortunately, and as has been shown by history, it also created a sort of "chaotic" industry. The "workers"(drivers) had to hustle around the community and city streets just to make ends meet to a point of being rude, impolite and in some cases violent and hostile due to the desperation brought about by their means of living.

The presence of the franchising system for mass transportation provided an opportunity for poverty. Had it been that mass transportation was solely provided and controlled by government, then the "ambition" of becoming a jeepney or taxi driver wouldn't have existed.

edit/add on: Actually, it's more on jeepney drivers than taxi drivers. Dili man maconsider ang taxi as mass transportation system, ang jeep raman.

bakasaurus

January 30th, 2009, 01:52 PM

If I may, I would like to comment on this issue. I do not have any psychological or scientific or economic basis for this but IMO, I think the LTFRB is one of the unforeseen errors of our government.

Ideally, it should be the government's responsibility to provide a mass transportation system. Technically, the government did provide such mass transportation system however it's done in the form of franchising.

Economically speaking, it did create a sort of "transportation" industry in our country. It provided livelihood. Unfortunately, and as has been shown by history, it also created a sort of "chaotic" industry. The "workers'"(drivers) had to hustle around the community and city streets just to make ends meet to a point of being rude, impolite and in some cases violent and hostile due to the desperation brought about by their means of living.

The presence of the franchising system for mass transportation provided an opportunity for poverty. Had it been that mass transportation was solely provided and controlled by government, then the "ambition" of just becoming a jeepney or taxi driver wouldn't have existed.

While I agree that the whole set-up as it is now is inefficient and chaotic as you say it is, I somehow find the 'unforeseen error' phrase a bit nagging. Hehe. I guess at that time, it was the 'best' option because it worked when we didn't have the conditions we have now (such as high population density and probably more attention from the national gov't, hence more funding). I would not begrudge all the people of today whose parents found a way to feed their families even if they did not finish high school and who probably now enjoy better opportunities.

What I mean is, it was probably 'unforeseen' as you say since we are creatures not blessed with an amazingly long foresight, and so it was probably not a deliberate 'error' made by public officials during their time. Pero sakto ka, ideally unta ang gov't mismo ang muprovide ani. Only that, the conditions were not that ideal pod siguro atong panahona. I guess, we should not be crying over spilled milk now and entertain these counterfactual thoughts. What is important though, is now we have a chance to change and correct, and improve our transport system. And BRT is a very good start!

Ug hopefully mucascade na ni into a chain reaction of transport reforms and improvements, apil na ang imohang giespouse na greenways, wider sidewalks, bicycle lanes and all which should accompany this mass public transport system.

Matod pa diay ni Gandalf sa LOTR

'Yet it is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till..'

Of course, opinion ra sab ni ang ako bai DOngroy. hehe

LordCarnal

January 30th, 2009, 01:59 PM

^^

Did you guys know that in the mid 1990s the banning of Jeepneys was proposed?

..

dongRoy

January 30th, 2009, 02:11 PM

Matod pa diay ni Gandalf sa LOTR

'Yet it is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till..'

Of course, opinion ra sab ni ang ako bai DOngroy. hehe

Oh, definitely! It was a very good idea at that time. Actually, during those days, I think that was the only and very solution they had come up with for the mobility of the people... (Hence, the term "unforeseen")

Sama ra pud, in any country's history, the experiences of a nation's past should always be a guide to shape its future...

ADD ON: Mura'g gani ta'g makaingon nga: "Pastilan! kung hibaw-an palang....." Although, makaingon ta nga duna dyud tuod ta'y chance sa Cebu nga macorrect na siya. Ang akong pag-nag sa maong "chaos" basically makita nimo sa Capital. Kay ug ngano, sa tanang kuwarta sa Pilipinas available para ilang gigamit, wala dyud sila nakahunahuna ug butang ug tarong nga systema.

Kung buot unta hunahunaon, puwede raman jud gihapon muexist ang driver nga profession. Systema raman lang ang kuwang nato. Had it been that a better system was in place, becoming a public transportation driver wouldn't have been a difficult means of living as it has become today.

And don't get me wrong ha, wala sad intawn nako gicondemn ang driver. Nanginabuhi ra gud intawn. Ang kalisod sa panginabuhi nila hinungdan lang dyud sa kakulangan sa gobyerno. Actually, kakulangan natong tanan kay kita raman gihapon ang gobyerno.

timz06

January 30th, 2009, 02:23 PM

Asa kaha ni ibutang dpt ang BRT? The whole cebu? Hmmm... Nice one!

Jimbu

January 30th, 2009, 02:34 PM

The presence of the franchising system for mass transportation provided an opportunity for poverty. Had it been that mass transportation was solely provided and controlled by government, then the "ambition" of becoming a jeepney or taxi driver wouldn't have existed.
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unya kung madayon ang BRT an ambition of becoming BRT driver na sad. hinoon class na kay may uniform naman. unya may fixed salary pa jud. :)

great184

January 30th, 2009, 03:19 PM

That's true it would be far more presentable. I'm hoping that the jeep will be a museum piece in the years to come, replaced by BRT and hopefully, a more pedestrian friendly environment - so that more people wouldn't mind walking relatively short distances.

dongRoy

January 30th, 2009, 04:34 PM

unya kung madayon ang BRT an ambition of becoming BRT driver na sad. hinoon class na kay may uniform naman. unya may fixed salary pa jud. :)

Becoming a public transportation driver or if it would be properly termed, a public transportation operator would then become a commendable profession as it would become a form of public service. Dili na siya maparehas karon nga luoy intawn kaayo ang mga jeepney drivers makigkombate sa dalan.

ADD ON: on the query asked by @leylander, theory lang pud hinuon ni. Siguro @ley, if for example given nga 1 bus = 2 jeepneys, then makaingon ta nga 50% sa mga jeepney drivers ang madisplace. Pero if you really think about it, given that Cebu is also an IT hub serving other continents, the BRT may have to operate on a 24-hour basis. Bus Operators would also have to work on an 8-hour shifting schedule. On peak hours, BRTs should be running at 100% capacity. Peak hours is from 6AM to 9AM and 4PM to 7PM a total of 8-hours; 100% of the current 50% jeepney manpower can be utilized during these hours. None peak hours during day time, an estimate of, let's say 70% capacity and on night time, about 40-50% capacity. If BRT operators/drivers would work on an 8-hour shifting schedule, by rough estimate, siguro mga about 15-20% ra sa mga current jeepney drivers ang madisplace kay naa man ka'y 30-35% of the current jeepney manpower mucover sa regular non-peak hours. Of course, this is just a theory kay in reality, some of the current jeepney drivers are already on shifting basis. And looking at what I hope would be the type of equipments that would be used in Cebu's BRT, 1 articulated Bus may have the capacity of 4 or 5 jeepneys. Besides, naa pama'y mga jeepneys nga muserve ug feeder routes.

Jimbu

January 30th, 2009, 05:28 PM

technoblaze

January 30th, 2009, 06:44 PM

BRT Here we go...:cheers:
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/2125/brt2zu8.jpg

SuperGrass78

January 30th, 2009, 09:06 PM

^^
maayoha ah! uyon ko ani nga plano! pero naa lang unta poy brt passing Osmena blv. and wala nay jeep moagi dha...

OH69

January 30th, 2009, 09:40 PM

ung income ng mactan ay napupunta ba sa Cebu City, although separate ung island?

yung income ng mactan island will go straight to cebu province i guess. eventhou it is part of metro cebu. correct me if im wrong.

bakasaurus

January 30th, 2009, 09:50 PM

yung income ng mactan island will go straight to cebu province i guess. eventhou it is part of metro cebu. correct me if im wrong.

Last year Lapu-Lapu City became an HUC (Highly Urbanized City) so I think it keeps its own income. Well some of it.:lol:

bakasaurus

January 30th, 2009, 09:51 PM

Manila Water bags P2-billion deal (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=436013&publicationSubCategoryId=66)
The Philippine Star
Updated January 31, 2009 12:00 AM

The provincial government of Cebu has entered into a deal with Northern Waterworks and Rivers of Cebu Inc. (NWRC), a unit of Ayala-led utility firm Manila Water, to explore the viability of supplying bulk water to the entire Cebu province.

NWRC is a consortium composed of Manila Water as majority shareholder, property firm Stateland Inc. and the Gaisano family’s Vicsal Inc.

The cost of the project, which aims to distribute water to be extracted from NRWC’s source in the Luyang River in Carmen town to Metro Cebu through the Metro Cebu Water District, is estimated to cost over P2 billion.

“We are deeply honored to have been identified by the Cebu Provincial Government as a partner of choice for the development of the province. We hope that with this project we can help provide a solution to the province’s twin challenges of dwindling water supply and deteriorating water quality, “ said NWRC chairman and Manila Water president Antonino T. Aquino.

Cebu Governor Gwendolyn Garcia, for her part, said: “The provincial government has long since realized that concrete actions must be taken to address the water supply problem in the province. This is in line with our thrust to further improve the quality of life of our constituents as well as help the province maximize its potential as a major tourist and investment destination in the country.”

Manila Water, which holds the water concession for the eastern zone of Metro Manila, last year won a $15-million water supply development and management contract in Ho Chi Minh City. The five-year contract issued by Saigon Water Corp. is Manila Water’s first project in Vietnam. — Zinnia Dela Peña

I hope they would not only focus on augmenting the supply side of water (Magsige lang ug pangita ug asa na pod ta mukuha ug tubig). Kinahanglan sab ato ifix ang problems sa demand side. Daghan ug source of inefficiencies. Ang price mechanism unta ang magdictate how much of a resource we use and at which sustainable consumption level. I correct ta nato ang atoang water price kay barato ra kaayo ni cya ug wala nifreflect sa iya actual economic costs as a resource/commodity. Dako kaayo na part ana kay subsidized by the gov't. Tungod sa iyahang kabarato, naencourage ang wasteful use. This might sound weird but actually naay daghan na studies na ang correct price sa water (which is mas mahal) would lead to a decrease in demand at a more sustainable level due to change in behavior sa mga consumers. ambot lang kung kinsang politiko ang musukol ani na iimplement. Who has enough balls to do this?

It is clear that water is a commodity we cannot afford to lose. The pricing of water today in Cebu still does not reflect the growing scarcity of water or the costs of dealing with wastewater. Like a lot of major urban centers, it has failed to provide an economically efficient, socially equitable and environmentally sustainable development. The goal of equity is also not achieved by the current increasing block or tariff rate because it only makes water more expensive for a lot of people who belong to households with lower income. The poor are still paying for more expensive water while the rich are enjoying cheaper rates. All these failures and inefficiencies are largely a function of incorrect and distorted pricing framework of water which does not reflect the financial cost of water production, distribution, the marginal user cost or depletion premium and the external costs both in the production and consumption of water. Since household consumption and even commercial and industrial use of water is price elastic, there is an opportunity to narrow the demand supply gap by introducing water demand management instruments such as raising water tariffs, imposing sewerage charges and effluent taxes. There are studies in other developed countries that higher water tariffs and effluent taxes have reduced water consumption without sacrificing industrial growth. There was a positive response from the firms in the manner of modifying technological processes and adopting water reusing and recycling practices. Water conservation and use of water-saving technology also proved to be a good response. There should also be a consideration of seasonal variations in the water levels in the price, higher prices in the summer and drier months to ration the water and discourage wasteful use. For Metro Cebu, there should be importance given to water resource planning which should work together with the land use planning committee and possibly a legal body that will have the political will of imposing these changes. It has been proven again and again in different independent studies that optimal pricing is more advantageous than disadvantageous and yet it has never been changed. The problem is political will.

Cut and paste sa ako report sa una sa class. Nyahaha.

flesh_is_weak

January 30th, 2009, 10:12 PM

and now for the GOOD NEWS!!!

after a long long meeting yesterday, the WORLD BANK has approved a
US$365,000 preparation study for the Cebu City - BRT! and they have
indicated their serious consideration in funding the project after the study!

he he he init pa ni nga balita guys, wa pa kabaw ang media, he he

WE'RE IN! The Cebu City BRT is getting closer to reality.
the World Bank would not spend that kind of money just for a study if
they don't think it's a project worth pursuing ...

naay chance na pa-utangan ta nila ug enough money para mahimong full-scale rail transport ang proposed BRT?

zidlakan

January 31st, 2009, 01:02 AM

BRT Here we go...:cheers:
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/2125/brt2zu8.jpg

hmmmmmm .... interesting :banana:

see this link to my previous post ---> http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=28741238&postcount=46733

http://villarete.com/paul/zidlakan/images/BRTprobableroutes.jpg

bakasaurus

January 31st, 2009, 01:49 AM

^^Mao ni akoang gipangita na post nimo sir paul na makatubag sa pangutana ni leylander.

dongRoy

January 31st, 2009, 02:13 AM

Wala'y route nga magtuyok-tuyok sa Mactan Island? or kanang mura'g number 8 nga loop, covering the circumferential road and M. Patalinghug Avenue?

bOrN2BwILd

January 31st, 2009, 02:46 AM

wow nindot ang route niya..it will be very convenient
especially for the commuters like me..save pa sa time...
i hope mapaspasan ta ni nga project...

mOjicAn

January 31st, 2009, 05:13 AM

by the way the DOTC study will be bid out next week na. this is a P16M
study which will analyse the transport situation in the Talisay-Cebu-Mandaue
-Lapu-lapu corridor and possibly plan for a BRT. DOTC will handle the study,
with local consultants, my office will simply coordinate ...

the world bank study will concentrate on the Talamban-CBD corridor. WB
will hire international consultants who will study the transport economics and
make some preliminary design of the system. coordinate ra sad and ako
office.

the DOTC study is scheduled for 10 months, WB for 9 months, they'll
probably start at the same time and hopefully completed by end of the
year ...

there was a news report yesterday ... congress got mad because there were
four agencies (DOTC, LRTA, PNR, and BCDA) who were all ON TOP of the
7 proposed LRT-MRT projects in manila. imagine 7 proposed projects and
4 agencies were on top ... and they didn't know why there were 4 of them?

and they have to act fast. this morning i was getting an MRT ride from
Quezon Ave. station to Ayala station, i had to wait and take the FOURTH
train cause the first 3 were super full! and along the way i noticed that
EDSA was clogged between Quezon City and Makati. wa na kay kapaingnan
karon sa manila, mag bus man ka, taxi, LRT/MRT - puno the whole day.
that's why importante jud to plan ahead ... even if we don't have that kind
of congestion yet in cebu, we need to put the BRT in place ...

thank you @sir paul

mOjicAn

January 31st, 2009, 05:40 AM

^^bisdak ra kaayo ad nila: gisubhan sa sabado, hunyo 24 1933:)

...bisdak man jud!

mOjicAn

January 31st, 2009, 05:46 AM

Wala'y route nga magtuyok-tuyok sa Mactan Island? or kanang mura'g number 8 nga loop, covering the circumferential road and M. Patalinghug Avenue?

maayo na bai @dongroy, but we'll just hope that the city of Lapu-lapu will adopt the BRT system.

diehardbisdak

January 31st, 2009, 07:17 AM

HAPPY WOK @ Super Metro Mandaue - flickr pic by @restaurant_in_cebu

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3386/3238107705_303bb9e615.jpg?v=0

diehardbisdak

January 31st, 2009, 07:19 AM

Handuraw's Pizza - flickr pic by @restaurant_in_cebu

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3475/3225355120_fef340d398.jpg?v=0

diehardbisdak

January 31st, 2009, 07:21 AM

Majestic Express - flickr pic by @restaurant_in_cebu

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3379/3224485377_b4c532d274_b.jpg

diehardbisdak

January 31st, 2009, 07:25 AM

Dimsum Break - flickr pic by @restaurant_in_cebu

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3098/3224484943_f6c95299bb_b.jpg

diehardbisdak

January 31st, 2009, 07:27 AM

....soon! ..a new brand to hit in Cebu!

flickr pic by @ tristan jon gadrinab
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3440/3238816070_fa94e7492e.jpg?v=0

diehardbisdak

January 31st, 2009, 07:54 AM

...kung may Sky Adventure sa Cebu, we also have Sea Adventure, THE SEAWALKER....

flickr pics by @enjoycardphilippines
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3101/3238095030_f3b5af06f3_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3411/3238099028_d1c542df2f_b.jpg

bakasaurus

January 31st, 2009, 07:57 AM

Wala'y route nga magtuyok-tuyok sa Mactan Island? or kanang mura'g number 8 nga loop, covering the circumferential road and M. Patalinghug Avenue?

I think as of now, dili kaayo ni feasible kay demand-driven man ang best BRT routes. Dapat cya mumeet og certain density of ridership aron dili alkanse sa biyahe and so the routes would have to be those with the major bulk of commuters. Murag relatively mingaw pa ang other parts sa Opon para himuan og complete 8-shaped loop na BRT route. Interestingly though, I don't know if maconsider pod ni ang route na imo giingon DongRoy kay naa man gud poy housing boom sa interior parts sa opon apil na didto sa Marigondon ug Basak so it would be feasible I think in mga 5 years na icomplete na lang ang loop from

Bridge-MEPZ 1 all the way to the circumferencial road to Mactan - Marigondon - Basak with MEPZ 2- and then back through Max Patalinjug Ave which is the first half of the 8-loop. Bisan kani lang sa gani ug unya na sad ang other half sa loop if madevelop na pag-ayo ang cordova ug west part of mactan island.

Ako ra sad ning unprofessional opinion ha. Hehe.:)

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

January 31st, 2009, 08:15 AM

Then here is Mactan International Airport
Shorter line- one end is SM mall and the other is the runway (3.3 miles)
Longer line- SRP From the Runway (5.6 miles)

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8482/mactaninternationalairpgt4.jpg

wow! thanks for this illustration bai @mootown!. laayo raman gyud d.i ang airport sa SRP uy..:okay::okay:

diehardbisdak

January 31st, 2009, 08:24 AM

...best restos & cafes in Cebu!

flickr pics by @enjoycardphilippines
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3341/3237203853_cf21012a68_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3331/3237203119_003e61fe02_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3118/3238042900_891175834f_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3472/3238041702_ccb6267018_b.jpg

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http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3332/3237199555_ae0743de0a_b.jpg

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http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3091/3235477969_0ea6482d08_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3508/3238072632_c150c3edfc_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3095/3237207081_d9ff0a71be_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3125/3238046808_651c91914a_b.jpg

diehardbisdak

January 31st, 2009, 08:34 AM

shops in Cebu City!

flickr pics by @enjoycardphilippines
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3317/3238075726_4996d9b081_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3347/3238076568_aac1d9fcfc_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3095/3238078090_c75f8e49ca_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3514/3238077218_292432762a_b.jpg

rau

January 31st, 2009, 09:01 AM

Dimsum Break - flickr pic by @restaurant_in_cebu

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3098/3224484943_f6c95299bb_b.jpg

i love dimdum break's steamed chicken :cheers:

xerxes

January 31st, 2009, 09:12 AM

bakasaurus

January 31st, 2009, 09:21 AM

^^ correct! ...na-a baya variety nga kamoteng kahoy nga makahilo or is it the way being prepared?, mao ng na-ay ma-poison?

Naa gyud sad variety na mas isog. Nagcontain man gud na ang cassava ug linamarin which is converted into cyanide in the stomach. The best way lang is to peel properly, unya hugasan gyud ug tarong ug pwede sad i aerate sa kadiyot. Unya best of all, dapat luto-on gyud ug tarong aron ra sad madestroy and toxin.

Ganahan baya kaayo ko ug balanghoy/cassava so dapat kahibaw gyud ko sa hilo-hilo na bahin. Haha.

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

January 31st, 2009, 09:50 AM

^^

welcome Xerxes! Maayong pagabot dinhi sa Cebu Thread! :okay:

one question: are you a backpacker or something? I thought of Cebu Guesthouse, nice and cozy owned by an Australian gal and her Filipino hubby. I heard it from a friend of mine. Its near the Fuente Osmeña Circle. The rates start at Dormitory Beds - P 360 and Double/twin rooms P 690. you can contact them at: (63) 910 663 1733 (63) 928 906 1129
http://www.cebuguesthouse.com/

or you can check out Pacific Pensionne or the Diplomat Hotel and Eddie's Hotel perhaps. They are nice, clean and budget hotels in Cebu.

Enjoy Cebu!:banana:

xerxes

January 31st, 2009, 10:06 AM

thanks for welcoming me mainstreamhunter to your thread.

Am not a backpacker. I have friends to come with me at cebu and my family are coming over as well for a couple of weeks for vacation. ^^

Your suggestions mean so much to me...
I will definitely consider it and contact the number that you gave.
thank you so much.I really appreciate it.

mwg12a

January 31st, 2009, 10:17 AM

Mabuhay CEBU!

I am so glad i found this website. I've been looking for it for quite sometime now.
My heart is pumping and i couldn't wait to be in the paradise island of cebu.
I already booked my ticket for my holiday on september. Am sure you guys can be a big help to me as i want to explore more and discover the beauty of cebu.
I've been looking for a fully furnished apartment with 2 bedroom that can be rented for about a month
preferably close to the city and malls. My budget is so not looking great and cant afford an expensive one. I would appreciate it so much if there is a lot of discussion regarding different prices as we are facing the credit crunch in the world. This would at least help tourist in one way or another to spend money despite low budget to keep the world going.

Hope you guys can help me please please please.

I would really appreciate it...........

thank you

Hey man, I'm not from Cebu but I have visited the city numerous times. There is this one place I usually stay in, it's not real fancy but it's decent and clean, it's called Kanirag hotel. It's not real close to the nicest malls there but see Cebu isn't really that big that getting in a cab wouldn't really cost you much, although I prefer going around by foot since you get to see alot of action. Otherwise, I'd go to pension houses, they are cheap and convinient. I particularly like Kanirag because of it's location, its doesn't have the feel of a house, there are alot of foreign tourists that stays there too who just like myself, travels on a wise budget. I hope that helps alot.

^^welcome Xerxes! Maayong pagabot dinhi sa Cebu Thread! :okay:

one question: are you a backpacker or something? I thought of Cebu Guesthouse, nice and cozy owned by an Australian gal and her Filipino hubby. I heard it from a friend of mine. Its near the Fuente Osmeña Circle. The rates start at Dormitory Beds - P 360 and Double/twin rooms P 690. you can contact them at: (63) 910 663 1733 (63) 928 906 1129
http://www.cebuguesthouse.com/

or you can check out Pacific Pensionne or the Diplomat Hotel and Eddie's Hotel perhaps. They are nice, clean and budget hotels in Cebu.

Enjoy Cebu!:banana:

Thanks Mainstream, this would be very helpful for me as well so i'd keep all these numbers.

dongRoy

January 31st, 2009, 11:25 AM

Bridge-MEPZ 1 all the way to the circumferencial road to Mactan - Marigondon - Basak with MEPZ 2- and then back through Max Patalinjug Ave which is the first half of the 8-loop. Bisan kani lang sa gani ug unya na sad ang other half sa loop if madevelop na pag-ayo ang cordova ug west part of mactan island.

Ako ra sad ning unprofessional opinion ha. Hehe.:)

Mao mao... Sakto bai, kay ang importante man nga macover ang MEPZ1, MEPZ2 ug ang mga naglaray nga beach resorts sa Marigondon--at least for tourist who would want to explore the Metro on their own.. hehehehe

Ejames

January 31st, 2009, 12:37 PM

.....

Ejames

January 31st, 2009, 12:41 PM

blueguy

January 31st, 2009, 01:20 PM

Watch them Live @ SM City Cebu's The Northwing

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a97/van1975/NewMyspacePic3.jpg

Sinjin P.

January 31st, 2009, 01:52 PM

Watch them Live @ SM City Cebu's The Northwing

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a97/van1975/NewMyspacePic3.jpg

Nice. Free ba? :)

concern

January 31st, 2009, 01:54 PM

mga bai, dba ang BRT is like a public bus. What are the security measures ana?

blueguy

January 31st, 2009, 02:32 PM

Nice. Free ba? :)

yes

Sinjin P.

January 31st, 2009, 04:17 PM

^ Oh okay, thanks for the information. :)

Anyway, earlier...

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/7096/piertr1.jpg
(katong u/c sa may Pier Uno dapit)

Sinjin P.

January 31st, 2009, 04:18 PM

Tower Palace
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2384/57773554av6.jpg

Sinjin P.

January 31st, 2009, 04:19 PM

Magellan's Cross
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/8566/sn10mr6.jpg

Sinjin P.

January 31st, 2009, 04:22 PM

Basilica Minore del Sto. Nino
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/9048/sn8dq7.jpg

Sinjin P.

January 31st, 2009, 04:23 PM

Cebu City Hall
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/4767/sn12cm1.jpg

diehardbisdak

January 31st, 2009, 06:54 PM

...at least this pic tells us na go pa rin sila...visible na ang mga workers on the top floor...heheh!

Tower Palace
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2384/57773554av6.jpg

SuperGrass78

January 31st, 2009, 07:41 PM

ngano kaha gi-ang ang pana nila ang number of floors oi...19 ra gyud, gi 20 nalang unta or 25 ba kaha...nindot pod raba untag design...:)

Sleepwalker

January 31st, 2009, 07:47 PM

Hahay.....Back to barracks na pud ko...Pastilan, kamubo ra gud sa duha ka semana nga bakasyon, pero sige lang...Gamay'ng pag-antos na lang... :)

Salamat diay sa mga good news diri karon...A good start for Cebu para sa 2009, especially ang SRP ug BRT.

Mga ginagmay lang nga obserbasyon:

- gihinayhinayan naman diay og panindot ang ilawom anang flyover sa may highway seno sa Mandaue....Hinaot nga ipadayon na nila ug hinaot wa na maninda diha og ukay ukay.

-pagkahamis na lang gud sa dalan karon diha nga area dapit sa parkmall, cicc, natasha ug north bus terminal...sa akong mahinumdoman sa una, kay dali ra kaayo makapakugmo ang abog dinhing dapita, apan karon, hamis na kaayo.

- ang Nature's Hotel atbang sa Parkmall kay nagpadayon gihapon sa ilang pile driving...Nakita nako ganiha on my way sa airport nga ubay ubay gud diay siguro ang kinahanglan nga iugbok nga mga piles kay taas taas baya diay ning buildinga.

- ang soccer field dool sa Makro, maayo unta mahimo na into world class nga football field...Nindot kaayo siya og pwesto.

- lami ang pamahaw sa Sutukil...Pero makakurat lang kay hasta didto, daghan na pud kaayo mangayo og limos...Ngano kaha ni?

- Og ang MCIA wala na magpasalida sa Air Crush Investigation sa NatGeo...Discovery Channel na tawon sila karon.

xerxes

January 31st, 2009, 08:05 PM

Hey man, I'm not from Cebu but I have visited the city numerous times. There is this one place I usually stay in, it's not real fancy but it's decent and clean, it's called Kanirag hotel. It's not real close to the nicest malls there but see Cebu isn't really that big that getting in a cab wouldn't really cost you much, although I prefer going around by foot since you get to see alot of action. Otherwise, I'd go to pension houses, they are cheap and convinient. I particularly like Kanirag because of it's location, its doesn't have the feel of a house, there are alot of foreign tourists that stays there too who just like myself, travels on a wise budget. I hope that helps alot.

Thanks Mainstream, this would be very helpful for me as well so i'd keep all these numbers.

Thanks mate for the info. I did surf the internet with KAn-IRag hotel. Its good but the reviews of the some of the people who stayed there are not good enough. But i really appreciate your effort.

SuperGrass78

January 31st, 2009, 09:57 PM

City has no hand in FLI development

Cebu Daily News
First Posted 09:12:00 01/31/2009

Filed Under: Construction & Property, Housing & Urban Planning

THE Cebu City government could not dictate what development Filinvest Land Inc. (FLI) will implement in the 10.6-hectare reclamation area it bought at the South Road Properties (SRP).

Joel Mari Yu, managing director of the Cebu Investment Promotions Center (CIPC), the SRP marketing arm, assured that the city can get the promised P1.5 billion cash within the first three years.

The joint venture agreement between the city and the Filinvest covers two properties: an outright purchase of the 10.6- hectare known as Pond F and the development of another 40 hectare property under a profit sharing arrangement with the city government.

Since the 10.6 hectare property was directly bought by the FLI at P15,000 per square meter, then the city does not have any right to direct whatever development it wants to undertake.

According to Yu, this property will be known as FLI's “self development” project wherein the city would only depend on its development proposal.

The Joint Venture (JV) contract states that FLI will “develop the sale properties into a modern urban center consisting of residential, office, commercial, hotel and leisure buildings, and a public promenade.”

While the other property, which is under a profit – sharing arrangement with the city, will be developed into an “integrated and well–planned clusters of medium rise residential buildings for condominiums and hotels, and a portion for an IT building.

Aside from the sale of the 10 hectare, the city can also get either a minimum guarantee of return or a 10 percent of the gross sales of the building spaces being sold, whichever value is higher.

“I am the one who negotiated. I know the city can survive within the first three years, and I know we can get the P1.5 billion in the first three years,” Yu assured. REPORTER MARIAN Z. CODILLA AND CORRESPONDENT JULLY VENUS CUIZON

blueguy

February 1st, 2009, 01:26 AM

Guys just arrived last January 29 from a roro trip to Iloilo. One way trip registered 184 KMS.

From Cebu City I drove an hour to Toledo City and took the 7:30AM roro trip for San Carlos City last January 23, 2009 in time for Dinagyang (I left Cebu at around 4:30 AM). The boat trip was about an hour an a half. I spent:

Php 1000.00 - Lite Shipping charges
Php 200.00 - Arrastre and Miscellaneous fees
Php 100.00 - tip to a porter who helped me facilitate my ticket fast....

TOTAL 1,300.00

The boat was cramped. There were three CERES buses, 6 ten wheelers and three cars including Jack-jack and a "Sinulog" Float

TIP: At Toledo be sure to talk to a porter who will help you process the papers. Be sure to get his T-shirt number and I.D. Prepare a xerox copy of your OR/CR.

From San Carlos City, my twin brother was there to meet me since I don't know yet the route to Bacolod City. We took the Don Salvador Benedicto route to Bacolod. Trip to Bacolod should last for only an hour and a half faster but since I can't the view, the "best" road...I snapped some photos ( I will post later) using only my cam phone, while my bro took the wheel and had a side trip to La Carlota City to fetch our grandma....

We almost failed to board an earlier roro trip to Iloilo City ....but we were given a space which I think all of you guys will not allow your FD's to be placed...Anyway

We took the 4PM roro trip to Iloilo which will dock at Dumangas Port. At the Bacolod BREDCO Port, I spent:

Php 1,152.00 - Montenegro Shipping charges (paid on-board)
Php 375.00 - Arrastre fees

TOTAL 1,527.00

The boat carried 4 ten wheelers, 2 six-wheelers, 2 cars (including mine) and a pick-up. And sarsa na lang kulang sardinas na....

Went back to Cebu today. I left home at around 3:45AM and arrived Dumangas, Iloilo Port an hour later. Before I entered the gates, I passed by the Coast Gurad Office to have my car registered while I showing them my OR/CR. At the port I spent:

Php 700.00 TCL Sto Nino Shipping charges (paid on-board)
Php 128.00 Arrastre fee
Php 5.60 Port fee

TOTAL 833.60

The boat was only a third full of vehicles (One ten-wheeler, 2 six-wheelers, 1 dump truck, a pick-up and mine. I was happy ....had the chance to buff jack-jack...

The boat arrived two hours later but have to pay Php 375.00 at BREDCO Port. I stopped by at Petron to fill-up gas and air and took the road to Don Salvador via Murcia...about twice I lost direction....but thanks to the friendly people....

I arrived San Carlos City 5 minutes before the boat leaves for Toledo and I was lucky again... was able to get the ride...thanks to the help of Manong number 12...the porter...At Toledo I spent:

Php 1,000.00 Lite Shipping Charges
Php 128.00 - arrastre Charges
Php 100.00 - tip to Manong number 12

TOTAL 1,280.00

I arrived Cebu City at about 1PM and at 2PM Jack-jack had a shower.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a97/van1975/Roro8.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a97/van1975/Roro9.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a97/van1975/Roro4.jpg

Sorry guys this is my post sa teamfd...just want to share

Bhan Jojo Ngoi

February 1st, 2009, 01:30 AM

^^ WOW! Nice Road...:)

blueguy

February 1st, 2009, 01:36 AM

boyce avenue live at sm malls! :D

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zidlakan

February 1st, 2009, 02:20 AM

What you guys think does Cebu City have any height restrictions on their buildings?

for the record, cebu city does have certain height restrictions on "some"
buildings in "some" areas, for "some" reasons ... but not because of air transport
requirements (or at least, not yet). mostly, for residential areas (say, for
example, R-1), height restrictions is not stated in meters but in no. of floors
allowed. in higher uses especially in commercial areas, height is also
constrained because of the setback requirement - the taller your building
is, the larger the setback from the property line adjoining a street. so
that more or less restricts you from going up as much as you can.

but in terms of proximity to the airport. wala pa ta'y na sud sa zoning
ordinance. right now, the practice is, whenever there is a tall building
(or structure, such as cellsite toweres) deliberated in the zoning board,
we always ask clearance from the air transportation office (ATO). my
plan is for the next zoning ordinance revision, i will ask ATO for a complete
guide on restrictions unya i insert na lang tanan sa ZO para di na mag
punay ug ask ug clearance. that way also, we can already conduct an
information campaign for cebu city residents to know such requirements.

additional note: ATO's height restrictions is staggered/graduated depending
on the distance from the end of the runway. SRP is already far from the
airport that's why it's restriction is already 150 meters (which IMO, is fine
with the SRP, we don't want it to be too dense). but in areas closer to the
runway, the restrictions are quite lower. that's why there are no tall
buildings in MEPZ 2 and CLIP.

SIr Paul, ask lang ko if open to the public na ni nga park kaning luyo sa Malacañan sa Sugbo... Kay ako nya dal on ako uyab diha:).^^ that's the breakwater bai and yes, there's a park development in that segment of Cebu City's SRP...here's some old pics:
flickr pics by @slerz
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/71/157685980_25c9c5e551.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/75/157313763_a8b9be00de.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/61/157313761_11ab85319a.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/68/157696626_3b554141fa.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/51/157685978_9f500c10bb.jpg?v=0

hmmmm ... good question. i'm not sure i can answer. i'll tell you a secret
(di na ni sekreto kay naka post na sa forum, ha ha ha). the answer is -
i think nobody knows what to do with it! he he he

the story goes like this ... ---> a few years back, when all these things were
still in the planning stage, the consultant suggested that there should be
a landing area for the viaduct in aduana. but there were berthing spaces
for ships in aduana (if you remember, the love boats for dumaguete were
berthed there near city hall), and the cebu ports authority (CPA) objected.
so in the course of the discussion, it was suggested that instead of a direct
inclined roadway to plaza independencia, a "small" reclamation will be done
instead, enough to replace the berthing space of CPA. so a MOA was signed
between DPWH and CPA so that the "small" reclamation shall be owned by
CPA. time ... passes, and like most of the big projects in the philippines,
changes were introduced, and oftentimes previous discussions were forgot--
ten. first, the consultant suggested enlarging the reclamation cause they
have enough materials from the south coastal road anyway. then sometime
later, somebody suggested a park. then finally, they ended up with the
tunnel entrance. all of these while forgetting the original MOA. when the
project was almost completed, nobody remembered anymore ... CPA didn't
need any berthing space anymore, and DPWH doesn't know what to do with
the property - basta, they just said, according to the plans, its a park so
we implemented it. i already consulted with mayor osmea and suggested
that we ask DPWH to turn it over to the city. mayor osmeña has already
instructed me to discuss this matter with DPWH and CPA but DPWH is still
waiting for the contractor to turn this area over to them.

anyways, i'll check if its open and who is guarding the place. then i'll suggest
that it be kept open to the public (with some restrictions for peace and
order purposes).

zidlakan

February 1st, 2009, 02:34 AM

Speaking of planning ahead, I do have a few queries about the upcoming study.

With Cebu City pursuing to have a mass transport system using the BRT, does that automatically translate that it is also the direction of the City of Cebu to become a "People/Pedestrian Friendly" City, or does this just simply mean that Cebu City is just installing the BRT to replace the, currently inefficient and environmentally damaging jeepneys?

Second, If indeed Cebu City is actually heading towards becoming a "Pedestrian/People Friendly" City, would this upcoming study include studying the cost of the installation of Bicycle lanes and the expanding and improving of the quality of Pedestrian walkways?

Finally, in the light of planning ahead, are there any plans of putting up "Greenways", routes that would be off limits to fuel powered vehicles? And if so, would that be included in the study as well?

The reason for my query is that, to my understanding and as what I have learned from the various youtube videos of Mr. Enrique Peñalosa, "a City can either be friendly to cars... or friendly to people... Not Both", hence if indeed the City of Cebu heeded such advice upon deciding to go for the BRT, somewhere along the way, the City must have also heeded the advice of adopting to the principles of a Pedestrian/People friendly City.

hmmmm ... another set of very nice questions ... let's see ...

1. hinay-hinay lang ... but certainly, as planning officer, that is my general
direction. just remember that i'm a recommendatory voice, not the approving
authority. but if you read the resolution the city council passed, they have
agreed with my suggestions - promotion of non-motorized transport, providing
bicycle and pedestrian lanes, green fuels for the BRT, etc. i hope they will
continue to agree - the change would be difficult and long, but what is
important is we made the decision to declare it as a policy direction.

2. the answer is yes. maybe not for the whole city, but certainly along the
corridors where the BRT is planned, pedestrian and bicycle lane costs will
be provided. just remember, this is not a guarantee these will be imple-
mented, the estimates will be provided. but let's continue hoping.

3. (the finally) the SRP will be the first area where private motorized
transport will in a restricted mode. also, i was tasked by CITOM for 2 things
within 4 months - first, how to pedestrianize colon and second, where to
establish a "flea market," something similar to "chatuchak" or "pahorat" of
bangkok, or all those flea or night markets in major asian cities. i guess the
goal is to establish such for tourism purposes, and also to consolidate the
other sidewalk vendors into one place. and pangutana ... ambot lang kung
makahuman ba kaha ko ....:lol:

yes we're in that direction. the simple ultimate goal of cebu city is to be a
livable city and being a people-friendly city is towards that direction.

zidlakan

February 1st, 2009, 02:41 AM

Bai leylander, daghan ug info about ani sa Thread 4 man tingali sa Cebu Infrastructure and Urban PLanning thread. Naa man tingali gani didto ang gipost ni Sir Paul na possible routes or mga corridors na iserve sa BRT.

Note diay para sa kinsay naay abilidad:

Can we make the important figures and maps (regarding planning and BRT routes and all those) sticky so we dont have to repost it repeatedly? Calling mods and experts. Don't wanna go through all the hundreds of pages in the previous thread right now kay sayu pa ko ugma mag field work. Hehe. Thanks!

yes i agree ... gikapoy na ko'g halungkat sa akong mga daan nga post to find
a map/figure .... he he

just a reminded .... i am very busy and as i said, there will be times that i
can't stay here for long. so i've made this decision ---> i am posting only
in the Cebu City and Province Thread. which means i am reading only this
thread also. feel free to repost any of my posts in other threads (what i post
is generally public property anyway) but please provide a statement that if
anybody have any comments to me, to post those in this (cebu city and
province) thread. basin mangutana sila nako didto unya di ko katubag ...
abi na lang asyoso kaayo ta .....

jakejik

February 1st, 2009, 02:50 AM

Some of Cebu's well known pasalubong/souvenirs:

http://kyspeaks.com/photos/dried_mango.jpg
^^ Dried Mangoes

http://lh3.ggpht.com/fotomanic/R7wjyc-d44I/AAAAAAAAAb8/BcyaKz6TfpA/s400/IMG_1405.JPG
^^ Buwad Danggit, Taluroton, Pusit

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r249/KeenoBoi/otap-1.jpg
^^Otap, Rosquillos, Salvaro

http://craftypinoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/cp-cebuanosouvenirs.jpg
^^Beads, Bracelets, Burloloys

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2030/2208580785_aa6c526e90.jpg?v=0
^^Guitars

and many more,

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/133/358255820_a72c254e8b.jpg
and of course some shirts as proof that you survived cebu, hehe

photos are the properties of their respective owner (kapoy na'g credit,lol)

zidlakan

February 1st, 2009, 02:51 AM

zidlakan

February 1st, 2009, 03:14 AM

unya kung madayon ang BRT an ambition of becoming BRT driver na sad. hinoon class na kay may uniform naman. unya may fixed salary pa jud. :)

ana jud na ... mo improve jud. unya ang mga pasahero beh, instead nga
sensiyo i plete, card/e-pass na man lang sad, beh ... he he sosyal!

That's true it would be far more presentable. I'm hoping that the jeep will be a museum piece in the years to come, replaced by BRT and hopefully, a more pedestrian friendly environment - so that more people wouldn't mind walking relatively short distances.

hmmmmm .... again, i'd like to remind you, we are not seeing a replacement of
the jeepney. they will always remain here, serving the distributor and feeder
routes while the BRT takes care of the major corridors. one change lang
tingali - because of the improvements introduced by the BRT, the jeepneys
have no choice but to improve and modernize also. who knows after a while
mo improve pud na ila'ng serbisyo, not to mention, traffic behavior ...

naay chance na pa-utangan ta nila ug enough money para mahimong full-scale rail transport ang proposed BRT?

if its a loan to national government, ok ra, if cebu city gov't. magbayad, i
will certain object and stick to the BRT. bogota has demonstrated that
the capacity and service of their BRT is comparable to any modern LRT so
why should we borrow more than 5 times as much for the same service?

bisan na gani kung national government mobayad, di lang sad siguro ta oi,
filipino pud baya ta.

anyways, for those who really like rail, the general agreement among
transport planners worldwide is that the BRT is more desirable and financially
viable but more than that, it is CONVERTIBLE to rail, anytime in the future
when really warranted. ang advantage ra man jud sa rail is if you need to
go below grade (subway).

Wala'y route nga magtuyok-tuyok sa Mactan Island? or kanang mura'g number 8 nga loop, covering the circumferential road and M. Patalinghug Avenue?

sure why not?

but let me state again ... the implementation of the BRT will first follow
viability, both financial and economic. and viability depands on ridership. in
other words, if there there are enough passengers, then we should establish
that link/route.

so far, what we can readily see are two links which are promising - 1. talisay
to MEPZ link, and 2. Talamban to CBD link, connecting with (1).

3.) SRP link is a must even if initially it will be subsidized by the city kay
kinahanglan man jud na siya to spur the development there.

ang kanang (1) talisay - MEPZ, 2 possible routes na siya bu i believe only
one will be established first - as i said, ridership dictates, maybe later ma
duha na na.

then maybe years later we can see the following: 4) loop in talisay to
connect the 2 corridors, (5) loop in mandaue to connect talamban to the
main corridor, (6) loop in the south passing though guadalupe, banawa,
katipunan, and finally connecting with the main, (7) loop in mactan,
(8) link north to consolacion and onwards, (9) link south to minglanilaa and
onwards, etc., etc.

again i repeat, anything is possible, BUT, ridership dictates ...

maayo na bai @dongroy, but we'll just hope that the city of Lapu-lapu will adopt the BRT system.

i just received a city council resolution of mandaue, supporting their
inclusion in the DOTC study. no they did not specifically declare nga BRT
na ilang gusto but that they may be included in the study. that's fine.
i am sure when they see the figures, they will agree.

unfortunately, i don't have any inkling from lapu-lapu and talisay, although
i heard rumors talisay won't agree with the BRT. maayo ta di tinuod ang
rumors ... else, bulacao ra ta kutob ani ....

zidlakan

February 1st, 2009, 03:21 AM

mga bai, dba ang BRT is like a public bus. What are the security measures ana?

i'm not sure. probably, GPS and real-time cameras in every bus. but it's pretty
much like any LRT/subway/Metro in the world ...

ngano kaha gi-ang ang pana nila ang number of floors oi...19 ra gyud, gi 20 nalang unta or 25 ba kaha...nindot pod raba untag design...:)

basin 19 ra kay nakuwangan ug kwarta ... dungagan lang nya kung maka
halin na ....:colgate::hilarious

zidlakan

February 1st, 2009, 03:23 AM

good morning diay ug
a happy weekend everyone!

and

happy valentines to all!

:cheers1::cheer::drunk::lock::pepper::dance2::carrot:

SuperGrass78

February 1st, 2009, 04:12 AM

hmmmm ... good question. i'm not sure i can answer. i'll tell you a secret
(di na ni sekreto kay naka post na sa forum, ha ha ha). the answer is -
i think nobody knows what to do with it! he he he

the story goes like this ... ---> a few years back, when all these things were
still in the planning stage, the consultant suggested that there should be
a landing area for the viaduct in aduana. but there were berthing spaces
for ships in aduana (if you remember, the love boats for dumaguete were
berthed there near city hall), and the cebu ports authority (CPA) objected.
so in the course of the discussion, it was suggested that instead of a direct
inclined roadway to plaza independencia, a "small" reclamation will be done
instead, enough to replace the berthing space of CPA. so a MOA was signed
between DPWH and CPA so that the "small" reclamation shall be owned by
CPA. time ... passes, and like most of the big projects in the philippines,
changes were introduced, and oftentimes previous discussions were forgot--
ten. first, the consultant suggested enlarging the reclamation cause they
have enough materials from the south coastal road anyway. then sometime
later, somebody suggested a park. then finally, they ended up with the
tunnel entrance. all of these while forgetting the original MOA. when the
project was almost completed, nobody remembered anymore ... CPA didn't
need any berthing space anymore, and DPWH doesn't know what to do with
the property - basta, they just said, according to the plans, its a park so
we implemented it. i already consulted with mayor osmea and suggested
that we ask DPWH to turn it over to the city. mayor osmeña has already
instructed me to discuss this matter with DPWH and CPA but DPWH is still
waiting for the contractor to turn this area over to them.

anyways, i'll check if its open and who is guarding the place. then i'll suggest
that it be kept open to the public (with some restrictions for peace and
order purposes).

^^
i just hope they will keep it as a park and add more beautiful features and a good landscaping in it...Cebu city really lacks open spaces..

Though we are surrounded by seas, people doesnt have much of an open space and a view on the seaside of which they can enjoy.

SuperGrass78

February 1st, 2009, 04:14 AM

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mAiNsTrEaMhunter

February 1st, 2009, 04:14 AM

hmmmm ... good question. i'm not sure i can answer. i'll tell you a secret
(di na ni sekreto kay naka post na sa forum, ha ha ha). the answer is -
i think nobody knows what to do with it! he he he

the story goes like this ... ---> a few years back, when all these things were
still in the planning stage, the consultant suggested that there should be
a landing area for the viaduct in aduana. but there were berthing spaces
for ships in aduana (if you remember, the love boats for dumaguete were
berthed there near city hall), and the cebu ports authority (CPA) objected.
so in the course of the discussion, it was suggested that instead of a direct
inclined roadway to plaza independencia, a "small" reclamation will be done
instead, enough to replace the berthing space of CPA. so a MOA was signed
between DPWH and CPA so that the "small" reclamation shall be owned by
CPA. time ... passes, and like most of the big projects in the philippines,
changes were introduced, and oftentimes previous discussions were forgot--
ten. first, the consultant suggested enlarging the reclamation cause they
have enough materials from the south coastal road anyway. then sometime
later, somebody suggested a park. then finally, they ended up with the
tunnel entrance. all of these while forgetting the original MOA. when the
project was almost completed, nobody remembered anymore ... CPA didn't
need any berthing space anymore, and DPWH doesn't know what to do with
the property - basta, they just said, according to the plans, its a park so
we implemented it. i already consulted with mayor osmea and suggested
that we ask DPWH to turn it over to the city. mayor osmeña has already
instructed me to discuss this matter with DPWH and CPA but DPWH is still
waiting for the contractor to turn this area over to them.

anyways, i'll check if its open and who is guarding the place. then i'll suggest
that it be kept open to the public (with some restrictions for peace and
order purposes).

that's right sir Paul. Wa gyud mga klaro mga uban taw na magimplement sa mga projects kay sign2x lage ug MOA then if walay mangusog, wala ra pud sila unya mangita nalang ug laeng plano then now, look what happened na sa ilang gibuhat2x na park? pwerte na hinuong ngilara unya wa gyuy nagmaintain .hastang paeta!:ohno::ohno:

OT:
@Xerxes ==> thanks. sorry for the delay though. Well, this is everybody's thread! feel free to come and join the discussion!:okay:

@mwg12a ==> thanks. hope it helps. :okay:

SuperGrass78

February 1st, 2009, 04:19 AM

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

February 1st, 2009, 04:40 AM

SuperGrass78

February 1st, 2009, 04:58 AM

siguro wa pa nila naatiman ron kay wala paman nahuman ang tunnel. nya molabang man siguro na diha sa tunnel padong sa park....

i hope after the tunnel is finished, they would start the cleaning up and the improvement of this park, which is for me is beautifully located cause it would compliment the old buildings in the surrounding and could be part of the proposed heritage walk in that area...

zidlakan

February 1st, 2009, 05:00 AM

^^

I was there 3 weeks ago and I knew what I saw. hugaw na or not properly maintained or should I say, wa gyud?! Those photos earlier can't even grasp my memory of my recent visit there. There are dead palm leaves just over the place, grasses are now growing in the pathways then the fence is made up of barbwires and should definitely be an eyesore and what use to have water in those "lakes" now looks like drought!! :ohno::bash:

i'll talk to the tunnel contractor ... mura'g wa pa man na ma turn-over. nya di
pa sad siguro mo limpyo ang DPWH tungod ana. mao na'y lisud kay mura man
gud ug iro nga wa'y tag-iya. pero usahay, basin nakaligta-an lang o nakalimut
lang, basin mada ra'g reminder ....

SuperGrass78

February 1st, 2009, 05:06 AM

^^
thank you very much sir paul...maguol gyud ko kung mawani nani nga park...hehe!

timz06

February 1st, 2009, 05:51 AM

Ninglabay q SRP bag.Ohay lng. I notice nga gi bunbunan ug anapog ang kilid sa UC METC dri dpt agi padung mambaling, unsaon n nla? Naay itukod?

Another one,
naa nay nagbungkal ug yuta nya naay crane, bigfoot n xa? My d kalayuan sa atbang UC METC facing SRP. Anyone knws it?

concern

February 1st, 2009, 06:00 AM

Sir Paul: Do you have any photo's for the proposed BRT in Cebu and the likes (terminal,Bus,et2x.) Para ma picture out pud nko bah, kung sa building pa iyang "rendering".hehehe Thanks

zidlakan

February 1st, 2009, 06:05 AM

Sir Paul: Do you have any photo's for the proposed BRT in Cebu and the likes (terminal,Bus,et2x.) Para ma picture out pud nko bah, kung sa building pa iyang "rendering".hehehe Thanks

wa pa oi. mo study pa gani ta. but if you like, just search ug images sa
internet ... including youtube videos, daghan na man kaayo. just search for
"BRT" ... or better still "bogota transmilenio," or "curritiba transport" or quito
BRT, mexico BRT, beijing BRT, or even jakarta BRT.

ayaw lang ug search for New Delhi BRT because that is one of the very few
BRTs which failed ... he he he ... but it might be good also to know why it
failed ... mostly in wrong preparation ...

concern

February 1st, 2009, 06:07 AM

wa pa oi. mo study pa gani ta. but if you like, just search ug images sa
internet ... including youtube videos, daghan na man kaayo. just search for
"BRT" ... or better still "bogota transmilenio," or "curritiba transport" or quito
BRT, mexico BRT, beijing BRT, or even jakarta BRT.

ayaw lang ug search for New Delhi BRT because that is one of the very few
BRTs which failed ... he he he ... but it might be good also to know why it
failed ... mostly in wrong preparation ...

got this from BRT thread.. Possible ba ma ing-ani ang BRT sa cebu?

http://yenisafak.com.tr/resim/site/metrobus10a68e2730a68e274by.jpg

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/4565/metrolineaofcolombiacouuo4.jpg

http://www.doobybrain.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/side-acordion-bus.jpg

SleMarKen

February 1st, 2009, 07:07 AM

that's right sir Paul. Wa gyud mga klaro mga uban taw na magimplement sa mga projects kay sign2x lage ug MOA then if walay mangusog, wala ra pud sila unya mangita nalang ug laeng plano then now, look what happened na sa ilang gibuhat2x na park? pwerte na hinuong ngilara unya wa gyuy nagmaintain .hastang paeta!:ohno::ohno:

mao ba bai? bati na diay kaayog itsura ron ang park? Sayang kung ingun ana...

for the record, cebu city does have certain height restrictions on "some"
buildings in "some" areas, for "some" reasons ... but not because of air transport
requirements (or at least, not yet). mostly, for residential areas (say, for
example, R-1), height restrictions is not stated in meters but in no. of floors
allowed. in higher uses especially in commercial areas, height is also
constrained because of the setback requirement - the taller your building
is, the larger the setback from the property line adjoining a street. so
that more or less restricts you from going up as much as you can.

but in terms of proximity to the airport. wala pa ta'y na sud sa zoning
ordinance. right now, the practice is, whenever there is a tall building
(or structure, such as cellsite toweres) deliberated in the zoning board,
we always ask clearance from the air transportation office (ATO). my
plan is for the next zoning ordinance revision, i will ask ATO for a complete
guide on restrictions unya i insert na lang tanan sa ZO para di na mag
punay ug ask ug clearance. that way also, we can already conduct an
information campaign for cebu city residents to know such requirements.

additional note: ATO's height restrictions is staggered/graduated depending
on the distance from the end of the runway. SRP is already far from the
airport that's why it's restriction is already 150 meters (which IMO, is fine
with the SRP, we don't want it to be too dense). but in areas closer to the
runway, the restrictions are quite lower. that's why there are no tall
buildings in MEPZ 2 and CLIP.

hmmmm ... good question. i'm not sure i can answer. i'll tell you a secret
(di na ni sekreto kay naka post na sa forum, ha ha ha). the answer is -
i think nobody knows what to do with it! he he he

the story goes like this ... ---> a few years back, when all these things were
still in the planning stage, the consultant suggested that there should be
a landing area for the viaduct in aduana. but there were berthing spaces
for ships in aduana (if you remember, the love boats for dumaguete were
berthed there near city hall), and the cebu ports authority (CPA) objected.
so in the course of the discussion, it was suggested that instead of a direct
inclined roadway to plaza independencia, a "small" reclamation will be done
instead, enough to replace the berthing space of CPA. so a MOA was signed
between DPWH and CPA so that the "small" reclamation shall be owned by
CPA. time ... passes, and like most of the big projects in the philippines,
changes were introduced, and oftentimes previous discussions were forgot--
ten. first, the consultant suggested enlarging the reclamation cause they
have enough materials from the south coastal road anyway. then sometime
later, somebody suggested a park. then finally, they ended up with the
tunnel entrance. all of these while forgetting the original MOA. when the
project was almost completed, nobody remembered anymore ... CPA didn't
need any berthing space anymore, and DPWH doesn't know what to do with
the property - basta, they just said, according to the plans, its a park so
we implemented it. i already consulted with mayor osmea and suggested
that we ask DPWH to turn it over to the city. mayor osmeña has already
instructed me to discuss this matter with DPWH and CPA but DPWH is still
waiting for the contractor to turn this area over to them.

anyways, i'll check if its open and who is guarding the place. then i'll suggest
that it be kept open to the public (with some restrictions for peace and
order purposes).

mao ba Sir? But sa iyang pagka plano (aw wa diay gi plano), mura mag giplano og maayo:D

Kinsa ang nag maintain ani karon Sir? I hope mapa sudlan kay nindot kaayo mag picture picture didto....:)
Para sad maka suroy didto ang SSC Cebu.
Ka hinumdum ko nga ikaw nag permit namo sa una para maka picture picture didtong dapita kato wapa na nahuman ang dapit sa viaduct...

zidlakan

February 1st, 2009, 07:18 AM

mao ba bai? bati na diay kaayog itsura ron ang park? Sayang kung ingun ana...

mao ba Sir? But sa iyang pagka plano (aw wa diay gi plano), mura mag giplano og maayo:D

Kinsa ang nag maintain ani karon Sir? I hope mapa sudlan kay nindot kaayo mag picture picture didto....:)
Para sad maka suroy didto ang SSC Cebu.
Ka hinumdum ko nga ikaw nag permit namo sa una para maka picture picture didtong dapita kato wapa na nahuman ang dapit sa viaduct...

wa sa original plan, but somewhere along the way ... maybe the japanese
consultant drew up the "park" plans. maybe because the japanese are very
fond of parks and gardens, they thought sayang and space kung di man lang
butangan ug "garden." maayo gani di japanese garden gibutang ... aw, time
sa, di ba mura'g japanse garden ma na'g hitsura?

ang in-charge karun si nagiel banacia, adto lang niya pananghid ingna lang
kuyig ta sa SSC Cebu ...

AmbutLang

February 1st, 2009, 07:28 AM

got this from BRT thread.. Possible ba ma ing-ani ang BRT sa cebu?

http://yenisafak.com.tr/resim/site/metrobus10a68e2730a68e274by.jpg

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/4565/metrolineaofcolombiacouuo4.jpg

http://www.doobybrain.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/side-acordion-bus.jpg

The second picture is the tandem bus used by NYC Transit on heavily passengers capacity route, mostly in Manhattan borough. The logo says MTA Metropolitan Transit Authority plus the bus stop sign. The buses are also kneeling bus so that the bus will be in level with the sidewalk. There is also a wheelchair lift on the back/exit door.

diehardbisdak

February 1st, 2009, 07:37 AM

LordCarnal

February 1st, 2009, 08:39 AM

Lucio Tan, John Gokongwei Jr, and Andrew Gotianun of Filinvest were featured in the Cebu Yearbook 2009.

Lucio Tan, though not really from Cebu, was able to spend his life here when his family opened a business, I forgot the name kung unsa tu, hehe.

On the other hand, Andrew Gotianun recounts that they used to hold annual family reunions at their ancestral house, which used to be at the site now of Grand Cenia.

Andrew Gotianun's grandfather is a brother of Pedro Gotiaco, Gokongwei's great grandfather.

Through Gotiaoco, they are related with the Gaisanos, Osmeñas, Gos of UC, etc.

diehardbisdak

February 1st, 2009, 08:41 AM

^^ di ba sa Bantayan man nag spent si Tan sa iyang chilhood...not because sa business sa iyang parents but sa paglikay sa Manila because of WWII...right?

Mootown

February 1st, 2009, 08:45 AM

for the record, cebu city does have certain height restrictions on "some"
buildings in "some" areas, for "some" reasons ... but not because of air transport
requirements (or at least, not yet). mostly, for residential areas (say, for
example, R-1), height restrictions is not stated in meters but in no. of floors
allowed. in higher uses especially in commercial areas, height is also
constrained because of the setback requirement - the taller your building
is, the larger the setback from the property line adjoining a street. so
that more or less restricts you from going up as much as you can.

but in terms of proximity to the airport. wala pa ta'y na sud sa zoning
ordinance. right now, the practice is, whenever there is a tall building
(or structure, such as cellsite toweres) deliberated in the zoning board,
we always ask clearance from the air transportation office (ATO). my
plan is for the next zoning ordinance revision, i will ask ATO for a complete
guide on restrictions unya i insert na lang tanan sa ZO para di na mag
punay ug ask ug clearance. that way also, we can already conduct an
information campaign for cebu city residents to know such requirements.

additional note: ATO's height restrictions is staggered/graduated depending
on the distance from the end of the runway. SRP is already far from the
airport that's why it's restriction is already 150 meters (which IMO, is fine
with the SRP, we don't want it to be too dense). but in areas closer to the
runway, the restrictions are quite lower. that's why there are no tall
buildings in MEPZ 2 and CLIP.

Thank you

Ph Man

February 1st, 2009, 08:47 AM

SIAM @ The Terraces - flickr pic from Cebu_Restaurants

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3081/3167341166_f54ef7be52.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3078/3166503295_3d1d10be37.jpg?v=0

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1054/3167344628_e005cbf6d6.jpg?v=0

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1013/3166515103_dccfd12be1.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3103/3166518233_130b9ce685.jpg?v=0

Guys, how is the food and rate here? Do their foods come near the taste and quality of authentic Thai foods? I'll be in Cebu next weekend and I'm trying to find new places to discover. :D

diehardbisdak

February 1st, 2009, 09:00 AM

^^ i think so and they're reasonably priced...pero try mo rin ang KRUA THAI...but if you have already tried KRUA THAI in SM Megamall, the same resto lang which is Cebu-based...the owner and their chefs are Thai...so, try mo na lang ang SIAM kasi wala pa 'to sa Manila...hehheh!

Ph Man

February 1st, 2009, 09:11 AM

Thanks for the info...:)

I haven't tried Krua Thai. I've tried the Thai resto in SM MOA. Forgot the name. The food doesn't come close to the authentic Thai in taste. However, there exists a hideous Thai resto beside Rockwell in Makati. The name is SOM's. You might want to try next time. I hope they'd expand in provincial cities as well.

diehardbisdak

February 1st, 2009, 09:13 AM

^^...to give you more info about Cebu Restos, go to this site:

www.diningcebu.com

...pero, di kumpleto ang site na 'to....

Ph Man

February 1st, 2009, 09:13 AM

^^ Thanks dude. Cool Site!

I also would want to try the famous lechon resto near SM.

diehardbisdak

February 1st, 2009, 09:20 AM

^^ pero di kumpleto ang site na 'yan...

diehardbisdak

February 1st, 2009, 09:21 AM

...don't forget to post your Cebu pics...hehehe!

^^ Thanks dude. Cool Site!

I also would want to try the famous lechon resto near SM.

Ph Man

February 1st, 2009, 09:23 AM

sure I will. :)

SuperGrass78

February 1st, 2009, 09:59 AM

^^ di ba na-a man separate department for Parks & Playgrounds ang Cebu City? ...unsa man ilang gubuhat karon? or, kulang lang gyud sa budget...i hope tagaan ni'g attention sa city atong mga parks and other public places...usa gyud ni sa makahatag og impression sa city...

sakto gyud ka bai..if we ought to be a tourism oriented city, we need to create more parks and open public spaces, and make them more presentable and beautiful to our visitors, and to the cebuanos as well..:)

maayo pod ni, sama sa gikaingon ko na makahatag kini og kaharuhay sa panghunahuna sa mga taw, diha taliwala sa kagubot og ka congested sa syudad...siguro para pawagtang stress og parelax sa huna huna sa taw...basin pa diay makatabang ni paminus sa atong crimen, kay di naman kaayo sipok og gubot ang ato mga utok kung dunay maayong environment og maayong pagka organize atong syudad....hehehe!

murag psychological naning ako pero a good environment, sa akong tan-aw, is makatabang gyud og pa uplift sa quality sa panghuna huna sa taw...hehe!
:)

habagatcentral1

February 1st, 2009, 10:09 AM

Speaking of Krua Thai

This one is at their branch at Banilad Town Square...shot taken almost 2 years ago...naa pa to gihapon?

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h291/berniemacksouthcentral/Cebu/DSCF0546.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h291/berniemacksouthcentral/Cebu/DSCF0542.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h291/berniemacksouthcentral/Cebu/DSCF0541.jpg

LordCarnal

February 1st, 2009, 10:42 AM

weewit

February 1st, 2009, 10:43 AM

^^ Thanks dude. Cool Site!

I also would want to try the famous lechon resto near SM.

tukayo, you gotta do some research para malaman ko san tayo kakaiin padating mo.:nuts:

dabert

February 1st, 2009, 11:00 AM

for those who are a bit lazy to do some research about the advantages of BRT (like me):

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some inspiring quotes from the film:
"Every BRT starts with a small step, it's a matter of having the courage to begin."
"There is no miracle here, anyone can do it, and they can do it even better."
"The most important thing is political will."

SuperGrass78

February 1st, 2009, 11:16 AM

^^

Pero kung buot hunahunaon, if you look at the map, majority of Cebu City's total land area is actually a one big park. I think it's even a forest, hehehehe. Think about the watersheds, the mountains of Busay, etc., transcentral highway area.

ayaw nalang sa gud na og apila kay tuyo-on na kaayo og mokatkat pata sa bukid, hehehe! kanang diri ra sa center pod, nga maagian ra nato samtang gadrive ba ta, or samtang gasakay ta sa atong BRT pohon, or kanang lakaw going to work or kanang weekends nga pwede karelax ang mga ordinaryong mga taw nga dili na kaayo pa tuyo-on...nindot og atong ma-experience everyday ang organize and nindot nga environment...:)

SleMarKen

February 1st, 2009, 11:24 AM

some inspiring quotes from the film:
"Every BRT starts with a small step, it's a matter of having the courage to begin."
"There is no miracle here, anyone can do it, and they can do it even better."
"The most important thing is political will."

Right bai bert, these are three things that the higher-ups of the City need to ponder on, especially the third one.

AmbutLang

February 1st, 2009, 11:28 AM

ayaw nalang sa gud na og apila kay tuyo-on na kaayo og mokatkat pata sa bukid, hehehe! kanang diri ra sa center pod, nga maagian ra nato samtang gadrive ba ta, or samtang gasakay ta sa atong BRT pohon, or kanang lakaw going to work or kanang weekends nga pwede karelax ang mga ordinaryong mga taw nga dili na kaayo pa tuyo-on...nindot og atong ma-experience everyday ang organize and nindot nga environment...:)

I agree with you bai. Maski dri sa NYC naa mi tawag pocket parks nga walking distance sa neighborhood. Ang dagkong park nga tuyoon magsakay paka public bus or subway. Sa Cebu daghan man walay sakyanan pagadto sa park kong resort pud, wala may daghan sogra ikagasto. Kana bang pangweekend lang kay gamay ra magasto.

Ejames

February 1st, 2009, 11:33 AM

dapat tlaga matuloy n ang brt..
mas worst pa cguro ang cebu sa manila in the near future
if and only if wlang action n gagawin ung mga local
gov't officials sa traffic situation sa Cebu.. bkit ko nasabi? kc di pa nga maxadong occupied
ang land area ng cebu city traffic na.. dapat suportahan tlaga natin
ung BRT Cebu, if di to matuloy , wag ng bigyan ng license ang mga bagong sasakyan..(hahaah)..j/k

zidlakan

February 1st, 2009, 12:47 PM

good evening ...

for those who want to know the details of the World Bank -assisted study for
the BRT, please read my post at http://cebu-brt.com

i have decided to open up a site to consolidate information about the cebu
city BRT project. however, i don't know yet what kind of site i will create -
whether it will be a blog site or another forum or whatever. in the meantime,
i have disabled registration in the site (sorry for that) until such time the site
will take shape.

i'd like your suggestions, of course. just note that i am not really that skilled
in website management nor do i have enough time to maintain a site. i just hope
a site can provide a venue for a better understanding of the BRT when it will
finally be implemented in cebu.

and i want to thank everybody who supports the project. it is an underta-
king that i fully believe in and we need everybody's support for this one
aspect of cebu's future that's here and now in our doorstep ...

the site is http://cebu-brt.com ... just wait for other future announcements.

rustyboi

February 1st, 2009, 02:13 PM

The Radisson Hotel, Cebu City (opening in June 2009)
02/01/2009 by me
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/cebupics3/SM%20City%20Cebu/Px2010686.jpg

Radisson Hotel and Qimonda IT Center
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/cebupics3/lowrise/Px2010674.jpg
^^I love this parallel high-way/avenue or whatever you call it. BRT Road??? whatchyathink???

diehardbisdak

February 1st, 2009, 02:30 PM

^^ naglibog ko sa 2nd pic ni @rusty...di ba buyon ra man ang Radisson og Qimonda..not opposite...

rustyboi

February 1st, 2009, 02:40 PM

^^ naglibog ko sa 2nd pic ni @rusty...di ba buyon ra man ang Radisson og Qimonda..not opposite...

what's "buyon"? hehe

Radisson Hotel diba it's just along the Hi-way man na siya, then beside sa hi-way kay another hi-way napud (pic above), parallel ra kaayo. mao na ang road sa Cebu pier where it used to be fenced from the main road.

SleMarKen

February 1st, 2009, 02:42 PM

^^ naglibog ko sa 2nd pic ni @rusty...di ba buyon ra man ang Radisson og Qimonda..not opposite...

Opposite siya bai, inside na siya sa port area nga side...

rau

February 1st, 2009, 02:44 PM

^^dili buyon ang radisson ug qimonda it tower ui.. ang buyon kay sugbotel ug radisson :)

diehardbisdak

February 1st, 2009, 02:47 PM

^^ lawom kaayo akong bisaya bai..hehe..."buyon" is "kahelera" sa tagalog...sayop diay akong nahibaw-an...ang Qimonda IT Center is on the other side diay sa may port area, not the same side as Radisson...karon pa ko...thanks sa clarification mga parekoy!

what's "buyon"? hehe

Radisson Hotel diba it's just along the Hi-way man na siya, then beside sa hi-way kay another hi-way napud (pic above), parallel ra kaayo. mao na ang road sa Cebu pier where it used to be fenced from the main road.

rustyboi

February 1st, 2009, 03:28 PM

Does anybody here knows the website of the Cebu City fire department? or any link of a website that provides info about our Fire department? do you guys have any idea how capable our fire trucks in putting down a fire in a high-rise building? do the existing fire trucks in Cebu are okay ba? i'm just wondering, and worried. i was watching Discovery channel featuring "Hong Kong Inferno", about a hi-rise building on fire. scary! as it may happen here in Cebu, we'll never know.

KING CITY

February 1st, 2009, 03:51 PM

Congrats! Top 20 Philippine Universities:

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Ph Man

February 1st, 2009, 04:26 PM

hehe...ngayon pa lang mukhang ubos na ang budget.

magchowking na lang tayo. reminds me of my experience during my first time to be in Cebu Feb of last year. the counter lady asked what else would i want (in Bisaya). speaking in tagalog, i asked her to repeat her question...

she paused for a second...then blurted out..."anything else sir?" - i learned a lesson that day! :lol:

in the meantime, that tempura - do they really serve that in thai resto.

SuperGrass78

February 1st, 2009, 04:53 PM

The Radisson Hotel, Cebu City (opening in June 2009)
02/01/2009 by me
Radisson Hotel and Qimonda IT Center
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/cebupics3/lowrise/Px2010674.jpg
^^I love this parallel high-way/avenue or whatever you call it. BRT Road??? whatchyathink???

ayay saktoha ani pang BRT lane bai! :) lapara na diay anang macarthur blvrd bana? nindota og lahos ingon ana kalapdon padulong sa consolacion...hehehe! mogip-ot man gud nang dalana pag abot sa end sa new mandaue city, way plano ang mandaue or kung kang kinsa na nga jurisdiction nang dalana, para palapdan na nga part nga hing-bottleneck, sumpay na ngadto sa new north coastal road?

SleMarKen

February 1st, 2009, 05:19 PM

^^Dili na Mc Arthur blvd ang ngan ana nga road bai, murag naa nay laing ngan iinm.

diehardbisdak

February 1st, 2009, 05:23 PM

^^ Osmeña Avenue... pero maka-confuse ang name kay na-a man sab Osmeña Boulevard (formerly Jones Avenue)...

SleMarKen

February 1st, 2009, 05:28 PM

^^yup, mao na ang new name ana nga avenue parallel ana nga road shown sa pic. murag naa gyud nay laing name bai, naka limot ko unsa to...

SuperGrass78

February 1st, 2009, 05:31 PM

murag sa akong nahibaw-an mcarthur blv. lagi na kanang dalan gikan plaza independencia padong SM....:)

SuperGrass78

February 1st, 2009, 05:34 PM

mahog nana og 10 lanes nang dalana sa? 6 lanes sa main highway plus 4 lanes sa hing parallel nga road...wow kalapad! ang kanang sa area na dapit sa new mandaue murag 8-10 lanes man pod na sa? paet lang kay hingkalit og ka 2-4 lanes pag-abot sa end sa new mandaue city...toink! :nuts: :lol: pagkadakong binuang...hahaha!

mwg12a

February 1st, 2009, 05:35 PM

Radisson Hotel and Qimonda IT Center
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/cebupics3/lowrise/Px2010674.jpg
^^I love this parallel high-way/avenue or whatever you call it. BRT Road??? whatchyathink???

If the drivers still drives like this in Cebu, it will be a big problem for BRT and safety issues. I wish Cebu drivers would stop doing what they do in Manila. They don't follow lanes, they create their own lanes in a heavy traffic and people just cross whenever.

mwg12a

February 1st, 2009, 05:36 PM

Thanks mate for the info. I did surf the internet with KAn-IRag hotel. Its good but the reviews of the some of the people who stayed there are not good enough. But i really appreciate your effort.

I'm not sure if that is really how that is spelled like Kan-Irag, I think it's different from Kanirag... Definitely, it's not a 5 star hotel quality but it's clean and safe. The staff were helpful and polite. I'm sure you could find a better one there, there are tons of it there in Cebu. But hey, no sweats man, anytime...

Added: I did look it up on the internet, I guess it's the same one, I did see one bad review report but it seems like the rest of it are positive. I did see a couple of older looking white dudes from I'm not sure where, US, Canada or maybe down under, messing with some local women but they were not underage, maybe internet/penpals, who know? I know ones I run into there are same age caucasian canucks/canadian who were staying there, was alright with them as well. I stayed there with my wife and my 2 year old son at the time.

diehardbisdak

February 1st, 2009, 05:40 PM

^^...yes bai...it's DON SERGIO OSMEÑA AVENUE (formerly MacArthur Blvd.)... while the former Jones Avenue is only OSMEÑA BOULEVARD...that inner street you are referring to is just called 4th or 5th street, Port Area..something like that...

^^yup, mao na ang new name ana nga avenue parallel ana nga road shown sa pic. murag naa gyud nay laing name bai, naka limot ko unsa to...

rau

February 1st, 2009, 05:49 PM

Imperial Palace Waterpark declared tourism ecozone (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=436725&publicationSubCategoryId=108)
By Ehda M. Dagooc Updated February 02, 2009 12:00 AM

The Philippine government has proclaimed the eight-hectare Imperial Palace WaterPark Resort and Spa in Mactan Island, as the first tourism economic zone in Cebu.

The P4.5 billion condotel project, developed by Korean-led company Philippine BXT Corporation targets to have its soft opening and start partial commercial operation on March this year.

"This is the first tourism economic zone proclaimed by President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo in Cebu, if not in the Visayas," said Philippine Economic Zone Authority (PEZA) director general Lilia De Lima.

During the ceremonial turn-over of the proclamation, De Lima said the development will show to the world that Philippines, specifically Cebu that business is bullish, despite the global economic downturn.

Under Presidential Proclamation number 1681, BXT Corporation automatically avails fiscal perks from the government, such as duty-free importation of capital equipment, and other tax incentives, including the promotions of the Department of Tourism's (DOT) "Live Your Dream" campaign.

DOT secretary Joseph "Ace" Durano said in an interview that other tourism-related projects in Cebu will soon be declared as Tourism Zone, and this will help tourism sector thrive amid the distressed economic situation in the world, while attracting more investors to put in tourism-related projects in the Philippines.

Also, to attract more investments in the tourism industry the DOT and PEZA inked a memorandum of agreement (MOA), to grant special economic zone status to tourism development zone; tourism estates including grant of incentives to registrable activities.

Pursuant to Republic Act number 7916, as amended by R.A. number 8748, tourism development zones/tourism estates may be granted Special Eco-Zone status upon registration to PEZA and issuance of the required Presidential Proclamation.

PEZA however will only consider proposed tourism development zones/tourism estates endorsed by the DOT, consistent with the guidelines created by both concerned agencies.

Tourist-oriented enterprises locating in Tourism Economic Zone (TEZ) may be granted fiscal and non-fiscal incentives provided under RA 7916, as amended.

According to Durano, the Robinson's Land condotel project on Mactan Island called Amisa, and other expansion projects like that of Shangri-La Mactan Island Resort and Spa are now currently applying as TEZ.

DOT and PEZA have identified the list of registrable activities for availment of incentives that will be locating inside the proclaimed TEZ, these are; Deluxe or First Class Hotel, condominium hotels and serviced residences/apartments; AAA class resort; theme park; museum/art galleries; health and wellness facility, sports and recreational center; international convention/trade center and airport, seaport.

Phil. BXT Corporation, the developer of the project, has tapped the services of Imperial Palace Hotel in Seoul, Korea to run and manage the resort. Imperial Palace Hotel is one of the finest in Korea with a vast network in their home country and the rest of the world.

Of the total 556 rooms, 425 room units will be available for sale for investors, and these units will be managed by Imperial Palace Hotel chain.

SleMarKen

February 1st, 2009, 05:52 PM

^^Maybe 3rd st na... Nangaply ko diha sa una, lahi ang ngan ana nga road, dili na siya part sa Osmeña avenue, kita pa gyud mig 500 pesos diha katong wapa to gi tang tang ang kural dividing Osmeña ave. og kana nga road...hehe

diehardbisdak

February 1st, 2009, 06:22 PM

PhP1.41 Billion Water Supply Project from AYALA CORP. :okay:

***********

Manila Water, Cebu approve supply deal
Manila Standard Online
2 February 2009

Manila Water Co. Inc., the water utility firm of conglomerate Ayala Corp., is looking at a bulk water supply project in the province of Cebu.

Manila Water, in a disclosure to the stock exchange, said unit Northern Waterworks and Rivers of Cebu Inc. signed an agreement with the provincial government to look into the feasibility of supplying bulk water from Luyang river in Carmen.

“The provincial government has long since realized that concrete actions must be taken to address the water supply problem in the province. This is in line with our thrust to further improve the quality of life of our constituents as well as help the province maximize its potential as a major tourist and investment destination in the country,” Cebu Gov. Gwen Garcia said in a statement.

Manila Water president Antonino Aquino said the proposed project would provide a solution to the province’s twin challenges of dwindling water supply and deteriorating quality.

Northern Waterworks is a consortium composed of Manila Water, real estate developer Stateland Inc. and Gaisano-owned Vicsal Inc.

Manila Water earlier submitted an unsolicited proposal to undertake a $30-million Carmen Water Supply Project in Cebu City.

The project, which is still awaiting the government’s approval, aims to boost water supply in Metro Cebu by 33 percent and address serious mining and saline intrusion problems in the area.

Manila Water also expressed interest in teaming up with Atlas Consolidated Mining and Development Corp. for the planned $50-million bulk water project in Metro Cebu, which is capable of delivering up to 100,000 cubic meters of potable water per day to Cebu City and Toledo City from the Atlas dam, the largest privately owned reservoir in the country.

The dam was constructed in 1970 to serve the Toledo mine’s water requirements. The Atlas dam will have a surplus capacity of 100,000 cubic meters per day.

Reporter: Jenniffer B. Austria

animasola

February 1st, 2009, 07:13 PM

@zidlakan

bai, in your welcome topic ba (http://cebu-brt.com/index.php?topic=2.0), lahi nga link imo gihatag for SSC. It's pointing to skyscraper.com instead of skyscrapercity.com. Just a heads up.

SuperGrass78

February 1st, 2009, 07:21 PM

@zidlakan

bai, in your welcome topic ba (http://cebu-brt.com/index.php?topic=2.0), lahi nga link imo gihatag for SSC. It's pointing to skyscraper.com instead of skyscrapercity.com. Just a heads up.

bitaw skyscraper.com dili skyscrapercity.com

SuperGrass78

February 1st, 2009, 07:33 PM

Jimbu

February 1st, 2009, 07:41 PM

flesh_is_weak

February 1st, 2009, 08:17 PM

@zidlakan: naa lang ko suggestion about sa SRP sir, pwede mo maghimo ug ordinance na kada building na itukod sa SRP kailangan mo-connect sa iyang mga tupad na building through underground walkways...IMO, makatabang na ug decongest sa sidewalks kay ang ubang tawo adto na sa ubos mo-agi, unya ma maximize pa gyud ang space kay pwede man mag-abli ug mga shops/restaurants ngadto sa ilawom

SuperGrass78

February 1st, 2009, 09:03 PM

flesh_is_weak

February 1st, 2009, 09:28 PM

of course, ipabilin gihapon ang sidewalks--ug angay landscaped gyud with pocket parks in key points...

ako lang point anang underground walkways kay para mas dali makalabang-labang from on building to another labi na kung mag-ulan o kung pwerteng inita (skybridges wouldn't be too bad either)

SuperGrass78

February 1st, 2009, 09:42 PM

^^
bitaw sakto pod bitaw sa para dugang nga agian, labi na og ting-ulan? pero musugot kaha pod ang tagsa tagsa ka building
nga maglisod naman sila sa security ana kung lusot lusot lang mga taw....kuyaw kayo na kung sa underground ipamutang ang bomba, pareho atong akong nakit-an sa salida...hehehe!

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

February 2nd, 2009, 03:20 AM

MAAYONG BUNTAG SUGBO!

leylander

February 2nd, 2009, 03:25 AM

To discuss JV with Filinvest: Cebu City dads hold special session today
Updated February 02, 2009 12:00 AM

CEBU – Members of the Joint Venture Selection Committee (JVSC) and Filinvest Land Inc. (FLI) will be attending a special session of the Cebu City Council today for the discussion of a proposed P25 billion contract for a project at the South Road Properties (SRP).

Acting Vice Mayor Hilario Davide III yesterday said that members of the JVSC were asked to be present today as the contract to be signed to forge agreement between City Government and FLI will formalize the awarding of the project to the latter.

JVSC head, Cebu City Administrator Francisco Fernandez confirmed he will be there to witness the proceedings.

Davide said that FLI will also be sending a representative in today’s special session which is scheduled at 2 p.m.

The P25 billion-contract between the City Government and FLI will cover 50.6 hectares of the SRP.

The discussion will be done after the Committee on Laws, Ordinances, Public Accountability and Good Government, headed by Councilor Edgardo Labella will give its recommendations in the committee report.

This shall be made as basis for the council to give authority to Acting Mayor Michael Rama to sign the contract on behalf of the city.

According to the contract, FLI will purchase outright 10.6 hectares worth P1.5 billion and will engage the city in a joint venture to develop a 40-hectare area under a profit sharing scheme.

For the 40 hectares, under the profit sharing arrangement, the city is guaranteed a 10 percent share of the gross sales of built-up space, which will be remitted quarterly.

On the other hand, a down payment of P348 million payable within 30 days from the signing of the contract will be made for the outright purchase of 10.6 hectares and its balance will be payable in six years.

Last Saturday, Cebu City Mayor on leave Tomas Osmeña had a teleconference with the councilors to discuss the development of the SRP.

Tinago barangay councilman Joel Garganera, who said he noticed irregularities in the transaction, is also expected to attend today’s session. - :lol:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

February 2nd, 2009, 03:27 AM

Speaking of Krua Thai

This one is at their branch at Banilad Town Square...shot taken almost 2 years ago...naa pa to gihapon?

they are still there bai @berns and I love it even more...:okay:

hehe...ngayon pa lang mukhang ubos na ang budget.

magchowking na lang tayo. reminds me of my experience during my first time to be in Cebu Feb of last year. the counter lady asked what else would i want (in Bisaya). speaking in tagalog, i asked her to repeat her question...

she paused for a second...then blurted out..."anything else sir?" - i learned a lesson that day! :lol:

in the meantime, that tempura - do they really serve that in thai resto.

and I'm glad you understand. :okay::okay:

Jimbu

February 2nd, 2009, 03:42 AM

To discuss JV with Filinvest: Cebu City dads hold special session today
Updated February 02, 2009 12:00 AM

Tinago barangay councilman Joel Garganera, who said he noticed irregularities in the transaction, is also expected to attend today’s session. - :lol:

kuyaw sab ni na councilor fighter kaayo. molansar seguro ni siya barangay captain sunod :)

xerxes

February 2nd, 2009, 05:04 AM

I'm not sure if that is really how that is spelled like Kan-Irag, I think it's different from Kanirag... Definitely, it's not a 5 star hotel quality but it's clean and safe. The staff were helpful and polite. I'm sure you could find a better one there, there are tons of it there in Cebu. But hey, no sweats man, anytime...

Added: I did look it up on the internet, I guess it's the same one, I did see one bad review report but it seems like the rest of it are positive. I did see a couple of older looking white dudes from I'm not sure where, US, Canada or maybe down under, messing with some local women but they were not underage, maybe internet/penpals, who know? I know ones I run into there are same age caucasian canucks/canadian who were staying there, was alright with them as well. I stayed there with my wife and my 2 year old son at the time.

Oh well, am gonna have to check it again. thank you.

SleMarKen

February 2nd, 2009, 05:09 AM

^^
murag lain pod siguro kaayo na nga experience labi nag maregular nga tua ka mag-agi sa ilawom sa yuta everyday...mas nindot gyud gihapon nga sa open space ka maglakaw, with the greeneries and landscapes...kung maohon wala nay rason para ta magprovide og wide and nindot nga walkways and natural landscapes kung adto man lang ta sa ilawom mag-agi agi...hehehe! :) pedestrian underpass para labang sa dalan oki ra hinuon..;-)

Interms of urban planning, ang underground walkways usa sa solution para ma organize ang palibot sa ciudad. Dili man ilawm sa yuta imo ma feel kay mall type man siya nga walkways nga naay mga stalls. It's also very convenient labi na init kaayo or uwan uwan...

Just like the Taipei underground mall walkways connecting Taipei Main Station, one of the biggest underground mall.
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/8228/taipeimsfm6.jpg

Ang feeling kay mura sad naa sa SM galakaw lakaw... Ang disadvantage lang kay ig abot nimo sa imo destination, wana kay wawart kay nahurot nag pamalit:lol:
http://img2.travelblog.org/Photos/8595/26320/f/128236-Taipei-Underground-Mall-0.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2397/2165538613_e988a088f4.jpg?v=0

We can also build these kinds of underground walkways bisag gagmay lang kung ganahan gyud ta mahapsay og ma tourist friendly atong ciudad...

mOjicAn

February 2nd, 2009, 05:57 AM

kuyaw sab ni na councilor fighter kaayo. molansar seguro ni siya barangay captain sunod :)

...samok2x ra man na cya!^^

diehardbisdak

February 2nd, 2009, 07:11 AM

...been here in 2006...!!!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2397/2165538613_e988a088f4.jpg?v=0

Sleepwalker

February 2nd, 2009, 07:24 AM

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/cebupics3/lowrise/Px2010674.jpg

If the drivers still drives like this in Cebu, it will be a big problem for BRT and safety issues. I wish Cebu drivers would stop doing what they do in Manila. They don't follow lanes, they create their own lanes in a heavy traffic and people just cross whenever.

The van above is just a prototype for the driver-less car to be deployed in Cebu...This driver-less car has infrared laser and uses the solid yellow line as it's guide...Just somewhat like our line-following robot projects back in college... Hehehehhe

Joke lang... :)

leylander

February 2nd, 2009, 07:34 AM

SleMarKen

February 2nd, 2009, 07:35 AM

...been here in 2006...!!!

Naay bag o nga area sa underground mall nag open bai... mas modern, balik nya dri para mag kita ta...hehe

bakasaurus

February 2nd, 2009, 07:40 AM

nyahaha. alternative sa BRT..:lol:

rustyboi

February 2nd, 2009, 07:48 AM

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/cebupics3/lowrise/Px2010674.jpg

The van above is just a prototype for the driver-less car to be deployed in Cebu...This driver-less car has infrared laser and uses the solid yellow line as it's guide...Just somewhat like our line-following robot projects back in college... Hehehehhe

Joke lang... :)

hahaha, kamo jud, you have a wild imagination. there's really no big deal about that VAN supposedly committing a violation by stepping that yellow line. i took this photo inside my car, i was slowing down, the van was just overtaking me oi, that explains why ni step outside ang van. and not because undisciplined ang driver or unsa. :lol:

bakasaurus

February 2nd, 2009, 07:57 AM

Last Saturday and Thursday diay kay gifeature ang Cebu diri sa Japan (National TV nila NHK ug another channel) in two different programs. Wa ko kakita sa uban. Ang ako rang naabtan ang nagsayaw2x nga mga inmates. Sikat kaayo ang Cebu hahaha.
Mao ra to.
Unya sad halos tanan lage namo masugatan diri mga classmate ug Sensei ug mga kaila kay panagaan namo ug brochures about Philippines, of course ako kay Cebu gyud akong gimarket pag-ayo hehe.

diehardbisdak

February 2nd, 2009, 08:05 AM

...sure bai...i'm keeping my fingers crossed for the Taipei AMPA 2009 this 14th to 17th April, 2009 at Taipei World Trade Center NANGANG Exhibition Hall...i hope mahinayon mi ni this year...gusto mo-attend og balik akong boss..

Naay bag o nga area sa underground mall nag open bai... mas modern, balik nya dri para mag kita ta...hehe

mwg12a

February 2nd, 2009, 08:28 AM

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/cebupics3/lowrise/Px2010674.jpg

The van above is just a prototype for the driver-less car to be deployed in Cebu...This driver-less car has infrared laser and uses the solid yellow line as it's guide...Just somewhat like our line-following robot projects back in college... Hehehehhe

Joke lang... :)

HAHA, you almost got me there if I didn't see the "joke lang" at the bottom...

But that pic looks really good, very clean and very metropolitan looking.

gee

February 2nd, 2009, 08:33 AM

Interms of urban planning, ang underground walkways usa sa solution para ma organize ang palibot sa ciudad. Dili man ilawm sa yuta imo ma feel kay mall type man siya nga walkways nga naay mga stalls. It's also very convenient labi na init kaayo or uwan uwan...

Just like the Taipei underground mall walkways connecting Taipei Main Station, one of the biggest underground mall.
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/8228/taipeimsfm6.jpg

Ang feeling kay mura sad naa sa SM galakaw lakaw... Ang disadvantage lang kay ig abot nimo sa imo destination, wana kay wawart kay nahurot nag pamalit:lol:
http://img2.travelblog.org/Photos/8595/26320/f/128236-Taipei-Underground-Mall-0.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2397/2165538613_e988a088f4.jpg?v=0

We can also build these kinds of underground walkways bisag gagmay lang kung ganahan gyud ta mahapsay og ma tourist friendly atong ciudad...

slerz, kanang undergroundmall lahos pa na hangtod sa zhongshan station (red line)

mao nga succesful ning ilang underground mall tungod sa kadgahan sa tawo diha, kay dinhing dapita dunay duha ka mrt stations (red ug blue lines), stations sa regular train ug sa high speed train. sa gawas naa ang mga bus stations sa lain-laing bus company .... unya pun-an pa sa mga pilipino nga magpungko-pungko diha sa may taipei main station kada domingo ...

mwg12a

February 2nd, 2009, 08:42 AM

Yep, that would be awesome for Cebu really, underground mall, especially if the products being sold there are all good deal, but slermarken is right, I'm sure you'd spend all your money before you knew it and even before you get out of that underground mall if it is also used as an underground walkways. It makes sense, all you would see are the stores around it and the people walking around with you. No other diversion for attentions like automobiles, public transports and such.. he he

Sleepwalker

February 2nd, 2009, 08:46 AM

hahaha, kamo jud, you have a wild imagination. there's really no big deal about that VAN supposedly committing a violation by stepping that yellow line. i took this photo inside my car, i was slowing down, the van was just overtaking me oi, that explains why ni step outside ang van. and not because undisciplined ang driver or unsa. :lol:

Just kidding, Bai Rusty... :)

diehardbisdak

February 2nd, 2009, 09:08 AM

Cebu is a tourist-magnet...here's the proof:

Silversea Cruises of Fort Lauderdale, Florida docked at Pier 6
- pic taken at upper floor of SM Car Park
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3465/3243494445_40a10855d1_o.jpg
flickr pic by @b00rdz

diehardbisdak

February 2nd, 2009, 09:11 AM

flickr pics

by @kevinworld
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3505/3243577659_2314e1aabd.jpg

by @oscarmachaconjr
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3397/3244422974_6eb54288d8.jpg

diehardbisdak

February 2nd, 2009, 09:23 AM

flickr pics

Club Filipino Golf Course - Danao City - by @reysanchez78
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3117/3243347601_576224f229.jpg?v=0

Banilad Town Center's Carpark - by @raidagalang
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3132/3243220595_e3c2582659.jpg?v=0

rustyboi

February 2nd, 2009, 10:08 AM

Just kidding, Bai Rusty... :)

hehehe yes bai, :okay: by the way, i'm definitely sure a driver-less car exists man pud, which runs by following a line/marking sa road just like your description. was it in Europe somewhere?

SleMarKen

February 2nd, 2009, 10:09 AM

^^sa Germany bai Rest...

Yep, that would be awesome for Cebu really, underground mall, especially if the products being sold there are all good deal, but slermarken is right, I'm sure you'd spend all your money before you knew it and even before you get out of that underground mall if it is also used as an underground walkways. It makes sense, all you would see are the stores around it and the people walking around with you. No other diversion for attentions like automobiles, public transports and such.. he he

yeah, very true... I went there last chinese new year, from Taipei Main Station going to the other block nearby passing the underground mall.
Nang umahon na ako from the underground mall, nana koy dalang sapatos kay nag sale nya nindot kaayo, naka palit nuon bisag wa sa plano nya kuwang pa gyud ang budget, atay, nagbagulbol gyud ko:lol:

slerz, kanang undergroundmall lahos pa na hangtod sa zhongshan station (red line)

mao nga succesful ning ilang underground mall tungod sa kadgahan sa tawo diha, kay dinhing dapita dunay duha ka mrt stations (red ug blue lines), stations sa regular train ug sa high speed train. sa gawas naa ang mga bus stations sa lain-laing bus company .... unya pun-an pa sa mga pilipino nga magpungko-pungko diha sa may taipei main station kada domingo ...

Aw abot pa diay na didto bai? saun... wana nako ma mao mao kay di man gud makita sa taas...

As for Cebu, bisag gagmay lang sa nga mga underground walkways...

rustyboi

February 2nd, 2009, 10:14 AM

Interms of urban planning, ang underground walkways usa sa solution para ma organize ang palibot sa ciudad. Dili man ilawm sa yuta imo ma feel kay mall type man siya nga walkways nga naay mga stalls. It's also very convenient labi na init kaayo or uwan uwan...

Just like the Taipei underground mall walkways connecting Taipei Main Station, one of the biggest underground mall.
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/8228/taipeimsfm6.jpg

Ang feeling kay mura sad naa sa SM galakaw lakaw... Ang disadvantage lang kay ig abot nimo sa imo destination, wana kay wawart kay nahurot nag pamalit:lol:
http://img2.travelblog.org/Photos/8595/26320/f/128236-Taipei-Underground-Mall-0.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2397/2165538613_e988a088f4.jpg?v=0

We can also build these kinds of underground walkways bisag gagmay lang kung ganahan gyud ta mahapsay og ma tourist friendly atong ciudad...

Speaking of which, Ayala is currently redeveloping their Glorietta Mall in Makati which includes building an underground mall, more underground walkways and easier underground access to Ayala MRT Station. I hope we can have those too in the future. :cool: